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Women literally just have to give average men a chance and they can get date regardless of their age. Average men is the keyword. The average late 30's guy is fat with a receding hairline.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 07:33 PM
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A woman who earns more wants a man who earns even more. Most of the women who will date me are those who have less than me. Ask women why that is. We just deal with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 07:32 PM
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No, because that seems like a lot of effort for nothing. If I'm going to be home all day I won't even shave or brush my hair. Just brush my teeth and a quick shower. Because who am I trying to impress? Myself? I already know I look somewhere between a 3 and a 5 based on effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 07:30 PM
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So now she was drunk? Wouldn't that be considered rape in the modern context?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 01:18 PM
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If you were so well-informed, I wouldn't have to explain those things to you. And if your views weren't influenced by race (no you didn't mention race - you only denigrated the religion of 2B majority non-white people), you would be equally vocal about required head-coverings by white Christians such as this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kapp_(headcovering))
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 01:16 PM
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Every fundamentalist religion has the pressure to conform. Including fundamentalist Christians. But once again, fundamentalist Islam is not the totality of Islam, it is 5% of it as I already explained. Outside of Afghanistan and Iran, every predominantly muslim countries has plenty of women choosing to walk around outside without covering their hair with a hijab. But your insistence on portraying a religion composed primarily of non-whites as evil is just based in racism or other prejudices. Why…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 01:14 PM
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I didn't. I asked how many serious LTRs you have had. Because I suspect you have had too-few LTRs because you stuck around way too long without insisting on a marriage proposal like I explained in the last comment. It's very unlikely that you spent 10 years and failed at 4-5 LTRs that were heading toward marriage. If that actually happened, there is a deeper problem and you have to figure out why men don't want to marry you.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 05:15 AM
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The Muslim world is the approx. 2 Billion Muslims, majority of whom live in predominantly Muslim countries. If you genuinely care, most of that other information, in detail for nearly every majority Muslim country, can be found at: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_veiling_practices_by_country I think it would be good if you spent some time reading that so you can discover just how wrong, and frankly racist, your misperceptions are. I also have to ask if you are confusing the hijab with a ni…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 05:13 AM
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Female hypergamy, actually - let me explain. How many serious LTRs (meaning 1 year more and in which you have expressed interest in marriage) have you had in that period? It takes 2 to tango. You could have left and tried with someone else a couple of times by now. But due to female hypergamy you likely decided you deserved marriage to that high-value partner who was refused to offer it. So you stuck around too long.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 04:06 AM
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If a simple hijab, a scarf that covers your hair, is enough to creep you out (in capital letters, no less) than that is the last thing from a rational standard. I agree with you that all countries should let women choose what they wear. But would it surprise you to know that for 95% of the Muslim world (e.g. not Afghanistan or Iran), the hijab is optional?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 04:01 AM
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The problem isn't her career. The problem is this: Muscular "alpha" type men. She has a ton of options as a 9/10 blonde, but if she's only going after top 1% successful muscular tall handsome men - than it's back to being a grind. The kind of guy she likes probably has a dozen other 9/10's he can go after. So of course the dull-as-a-dishwasher who invades your privacy will lose.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 03:55 AM
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True, but a lower fertility rate presents an even bigger problem: a rapidly aging population. None of us will be able to live nicely in our 60s and beyond if there are not enough younger people able to work to build and maintain our society. In a simple thought experiment: Imagine you are 75 and need nursing care or a new wheelchair or someone to deliver you groceries. But so few capable workers even exist. Sure, plenty of old dilapidated leaking moldy housing exists - but everything else will b…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 03:31 AM
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Moving too fast - he's an evil love-bomber. Moving too slow - he's an evil girlfriend-zoner. A simple solution: gf/bf isn't a legal contract. If you express interest in marriage after 1 year and then he doesn't do it within a year - you've only lost 2 years. Assuming you didn't wait until your 30s to find an appropriate partner - that gives you plenty of chances. The problem comes when a woman is already 30-something and then sets a goal to find a husband and have a family all within 1-2 years. …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 03:21 AM
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In about 99% of the muslim world? About the same effect as taking off your jacket. i.e., a preference.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 03:09 AM
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Yeah, I'm sure all your OF girls and cam girls are just "freely expressing themselves". Fact is, just as some women really do want to wear bikinis and get nipple piercings and twerk - plenty of others really do wan to be covered up.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 03:07 AM
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Definitely a lot less. I approach maybe 1-2 people a year (vs. at least 1-2 dozen a year a couple of years ago) and it's not because they are the most attractive or interesting - who I approached comes down to convenience and limiting risk. e.g. no matter how much I like them, I'm not going to approach a woman in front of other people or a woman who hasn't at least smiled slightly at me when I talked to her about a mundane topic or at least casual greeting. You said "when people get to know me".…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 02:58 AM
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The OP didn't say the female friend responded badly. He's saying outsiders are judging his intentions.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 02:49 AM
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When all else fails - go back to the old defense of adult women being powerless actors hence their bad choices/preferences are not their own. Why should we have women managers or leaders if they are just powerless actors and succumb to pushiness? ....Oh no wait - now they're back to being "girl bosses". Funny how that works.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 02:44 AM
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1) It doesn't say it doesn't either. 2) How many people do you know who had sex as adolescents and then were unable to obtain sex as adults? If you were having sex in high school, chances are pretty good you are going to have sex in your 20's too, arguably for the same reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 02:35 AM
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If you look at table 3, though both bullying and victimization were positively correlated with having dated or having had a sexual experience, bullying was higher and WAS STATISTICALLY SIGNIFICANT at p<0.05 (and even p<0.01 in study 2 between bullying and having had a sexual experience.) Victimization though positively correlated, WAS NOT STATISTICALLY SIGNIFICANT. Meaning don't read much into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 02:33 AM
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Was your high school an 80's teen movie? IME, the very popular kids with big friend groups or high status (e.g. top athlete) were not typically bullies. They had no reason to be insecure and pick on very low-status kids. They weren't even moving in the same social spheres as them. Bullies were more typically mid-low status kids picking on low-status kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 02:22 AM
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Do you realize people who say stuff like this online are the very definition of unreliable narrators? They say no specifics and throw around terms like 'sociopath' and 'love bombing'. As a personal example: I broke off with my ex-gf because she cheated on me with my co-worker and stole money from me. Before that I was a very generous partner. But me asking her to find a new place to live in 1 month (which became 2 months) became me being a "sociopath" and "kicking her out on the street" and my p…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 07:15 PM
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Who are these accusations coming form? I'm willing to bet it's 90% older women. And it doesn't take a genius to figure out their motivation.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 07:07 PM
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OP says that the modern connotations of seduction vs grooming are unfair. You reply by just regurgitating the connotations. First of all, you don't know the intent of someone because we can't see inside their mind. We can only assess their actions. In terms of the seduction vs grooming - what is the difference in ACTION? Given OP's belief that "grooming"is no longer limited to adult-to-minor persuasion?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 07:06 PM
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Yes. Most Asian women are desperate for white men but Filipino women are among the most desperate.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 07:03 PM
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Women: A growing number of women don't even wants kids "childfree" so (1.) and (2.) are increasingly less important. But I would add a (2.) all the Gyn problems/inconveniences and (3.) risk of sexual violence. Men: For men I would add (4.) the shame of virginity/singlehood, (5.) almost complete responsibility to approach a woman (IRL or online), secure a date, and plan and often even pay for it, (6.) the requirement to step up and defend/take care of things. And I'm not talking just financially …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 04:59 PM
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Who says the average man is "supposed" to be happy? Certainly wasn't true throughout almost the entirety of history - so why suddenly now? I think you should settle on men (1) not being shamed as losers or incels for failing to get partners, (2) empathy for male loneliness (already happening in media but being heavily criticized by female groups) and (3) a more fair tax structure for single people living alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 03:03 PM
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I'm saying they are mocked by women IRL and on social media that they believe are only their looks-match. Thus indirectly castigating them for having reasonable preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 01:28 AM
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IMO, the most romantic film for men would be 'Leaving Las Vegas'. Nic Cage plays a troubled, depressed, unemployed, addicted man who Elisabeth Shue's character (the trope of a "prostitute with a heart of gold") picks to support and love. It's important though that even in this story Cage isn't "below" her - he was once a successful Hollywood executive, he drives a BMW, he still wears a suit jacket, his addiction is alcohol - often higher-end (vs. street drugs), and their relationship starts off …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 01:23 AM
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He was talking about being white in Asia. Obviously being a white American in the US surrounded by other white Americans is not enough. Good job pointing that out.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 12:50 AM
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None of those things are emotional. Out of your 6 bullet points, only number 4 even comes close - but even then you mean "talking about obstacles" without being emotional. Emotional is involuntary by definition. You know what feminists call men being emotional about their problems to women? "TRAUMA DUMPING" And no, it's not being a blubbering crying mess - but just being scared, troubled, or teary-eyed about your (not her's) problems. That's what emotional is - not giving girls flowers, playing …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 12:44 AM
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They're talking about the reactions they get from women they perceive as their looks-match or SMV-match when they approach them IRL or online.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 12:41 AM
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For the typical man: Most of the time you are normal (non-horny) but a couple times a week you feel lonely or horny or both - then PNC brings you back to normal. (For most average guys, that means PNC via jerking off - not by having sex with a woman.) Rather than a chronic continuous condition that PNC relieves temporarily, PNC is more like a treatment for an occasional asthma attack. If heterosexual men's minds were actually clouded the rest of the time - we wouldn't have built and maintained t…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 12:38 AM
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For plenty of girls in the Philippines, being a white American who isn't too much older than her - is plenty to sustain a relationship that includes cooking, cleaning, sexuality, and an overall adoring nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 12:27 AM
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Whatever. TCA and CCA. Whatever they fall under. Not to mention better TANF and SNAP than single men, even single fathers.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 08:49 PM
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Both men and women flirt without intending to actually get all the way into bed. Hitting on a bar/club waitress is probably the most common area that men do this ("innocent" flirting). (I used it in quotation marks because I don't necessarily agree with it even if sex isn't intended.)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 08:37 PM
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Social Security, Medicaid, Housing support - is all heavily slanted towards single mothers. There's a reason you don't see many women, much less women with kids, who are homeless out on the street.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 08:33 PM
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Biologically, it is easier for women. Men require to have an erection to have sex. And using medications and penis pumps is a lot more intrusive than just using lube. Socially, it is easier for men. Because women and their friend groups are more judgmental and women are more obsessed with social media showing off the "perfect" mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 08:31 PM
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Required only when there is a court-order for child support. Otherwise there's no reason to get into people's business - even if that means some poor schlub is tricked into raising a child that isn't his.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 08:29 PM
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I have no interest in being with someone who is only with me because he doesn't want to be alone. In OP's hypothetical, if men stoically accepted being single they wouldn't have approached or messaged you to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 08:22 PM
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I'm a man and I'll readily admit it's more due to the preferences of men than women. 18-25 is a small range. When every guy from 18 to 65 prefers that (even if some won't openly admit it) - it's going to be a stronger effect than women who won't date a man more than a few years younger.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 03:59 PM
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Incel still connotates some degree of undesirableness. A hot guy is not going to be called an incel no matter how misogynist he is. He will more likely be called a 'frat bro' or 'douchebag'.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 03:53 PM
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It's ok to reject a guy based on height too. I'm a tall guy who is of a race that (according to dating surveys) most women in the US don't prefer. I don't see anyone saying women it's not OK for women not to date me b/c of my race. OP: Tell me you're not short w/o telling me you're not short.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 03:50 PM
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to appease women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 04:07 AM
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"are you guys dating?" "nah, she's just a girl I'm talking to"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 04:07 AM
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They're going to figure it out really quick if it progresses to the kissing stage, much less actual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 05:39 PM
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My question is why do women care so much? Is it more of an "You're contributing to the exploitation of women" or is it "Ewww you are so undesirable you have to pay for it"?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 01:45 PM
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I always assumed they did. People google everything else - why wouldn't they google that?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 01:07 PM
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Yes, but you weren't going to go with them anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 06:59 PM
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So you want to do everything a husband is typically responsible for AND everything a wife is typically responsible for? Earlier you said you specifically want to do "everything men traditionally do" - but now you're saying it's about extreme self-sufficiency even when married?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 05:47 PM
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It sucks to have insecurities. But women are not unique in this regard. Men also have male-specific insecurities such as their height, lack of muscle, salary, etc. Do you think any of the men complaining that women should like short men or lower-income men - are actually going to sway women? No they are not. And you're not going to sway men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 05:36 PM
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If you think middle-aged women are so beautiful - you should go date one. Tired of women calling average men ugly. Leave that man alone, then.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 05:32 PM
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I want to be able to do everything men traditionally do I can understand and respect a woman who has certain interests that are usually male-gendered. E.g. loves cars and knows and enjoys doing maintenance on them. But to simply say you want to do everything men do....because men do it - is itself gendering roles. I wonder - do you think men are superior so whatever they typically do must be superior? Or does it just so happen you organically prefer all the following: mowing the lawn, fixing a l…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 05:13 PM
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Miami is a very flashy and superficial town and there is a large subset of women who legitimately believe they can get a guy who owns a boat, a Rolls, and has a six-pack. But it's all an illusion made up of rented cars and unemployed personal trainers. Finding a genuine woman who will accept something well-short of that (middle class wealth, normal car, no boat, normal healthy physique w/o HGH or T) without looking for something "more" is surprisingly difficult. Especially under 35.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 06:27 AM
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It's possible that her "friend" story is partly true - her friend may have helped convince her that though you are already handsome and attractive - she could get a better guy on the site. Then I found out you live in Miami - oooff! For those who don't know, Miami is a very flashy and superficial town and there is a large subset of women who legitimately believe they can get a guy who owns a boat, a Rolls, and has a six-pack. But it's all an illusion made up of rented cars and unemployed persona…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 06:24 AM
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Sounds like a Marty Party!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 12:45 AM
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There's no guarantees in life but it's never completely out of your control. I know this because divorce has been studied by every possible parameter - education, income, share of household duties, time at work, time alone together, political differences, number of vacations a year, religion, number of friends, number of family, number of people at wedding, attempts at couple counseling, relationship with children, etc. etc. There are some people who an actuary would theoretically calculate as h…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 07:19 PM
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What they mean is that even an objectively ugly woman is attractive enough for men to have sex with her. If they really didn't find anything at all about you attractive - they couldn't get an erection.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 07:02 PM
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Most women think the average man you described is beneath them, so no they wouldn't respect him. The only thing they respect about the average man is they know he has the ability to cause them significant bodily harm. If that wasn't there - you would expect women to be a lot more openly rude to average men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 07:38 PM
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Do you think him being ugly is tied to him being a rapist? If not, that's like getting into a deadly car crash while wearing a red hat and saying red hats aren't a safe option.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 08:38 PM
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Right, so I'm not sure how your rapist ex-husband is a good example of "ugly dudes can and will cheat on you too". When the rest of us are talking about non-rape cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 08:27 PM
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I think...I THINK...there might be some space in between "no sex" and "sex with a different woman every day".
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 08:25 PM
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What do serial killers have to do with anything? Do women just ascribe all kinds of bad qualities to ugly guys? cheating, serial killing, raping, etc?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 06:36 PM
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Not the same thing. non-rape cheating requires you to be significantly attractive enough that strangers make a pass at you (or accept a pass from you) despite you not trying and/or with them even knowing you are already taken. How is an ugly dude going to accomplish that nearly as often as an attractive dude?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 06:35 PM
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10-20% of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 06:22 PM
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lol did you just compare dating casually with getting away with a crime? And why isn't it a bad thing that people who want sex can't get sex? What benefit are sad sexless men to society?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 06:19 PM
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OK, let's try it again: What is it called when the options are from a set of 10 choices {1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10}? I'm not a mathematician like that other guy trying to explain this to you, but in my field (medicine) we often use a 1-10 scale when asking a patient to rate the intensity of pain. We describe "10" to the patient as "the worst pain you've felt in your life". Likewise, in a 1-10 scale for attractiveness, a "10" would be the "hottest person you've seen in your life". If a "10" doesn't ex…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 03:48 PM
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r/confidentlyincorrect (just take the L man) The 1-10 rating system is a discrete set, not a continuous set. (When is the last time you heard someone get rated a 7.4389?) If no one exists that is a "10" then that label shouldn't be an option.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 03:33 PM
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It's almost like intimacy is a basic human need or something, I dunno.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 02:18 AM
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Sleep, eat, work and consume media like I already do. Only difference is I'll be more lonely and I'll die at a younger age than I otherwise would - possibly of a heart attack or stroke or maybe even a suicide if it gets too dark.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 02:14 AM
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Susie from Curb Your Enthusiasm? (Albeit Jeff was morbidly obese.)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 02:12 AM
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Yes, because refuting that "hoards of ugly working class men are getting married" means I believe all the men who get married are "extremely good looking". Love your logic. /s No. What I mean is what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 01:11 AM
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Also race. So many studies show that women (even non-white women) have a strong preference for white men specifically. Whereas for us men, a large majority also find east asian and hispanic women attractive. And height. How many men like short women? Medium women? Tall women? Now how many women like short men? Hmmm And body type. Curvy, thin, big butt, petite frame, bbw, lithe - all have admirers from many men. Whereas women overwhelmingly prefer only a lean muscular frame with a minority prefer…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 04:43 PM
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There's 127 million single people over the age of 18 in the United States. Of that, about 1.8% get married every year (according to your 2.4 million figure). Now, is that likely the bottom 1.8% of income and ugliness? Or as every socioeconomic study has suggested in the last decade, is marriage becoming more so a privilege of the upper-middle class instead of the working class?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 04:36 PM
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That's obviously not the point. Most people in the working class did not go to college. And the marriage rate of people w/o a college degree declined steeply in the last several years. In fact, a Pew Research study showed that among 40 year old Americans today w/o a college degree, a third have never gotten married even once. Now do you think that's more likely to be the third most handsome, the third in the middle, or the third least handsome? Yet you believe that "hoards of ugly working class …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 06:25 PM
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"hoards" of ugly working class men are definitely not getting married. Marriage rates universally are in decline, but the biggest drop is in those w/o a college degree.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 05:06 PM
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Disagree. If you are 8/10 (which you say is Michele Morrone or Jermey Meeks) women will do all the social work for you up to and including inviting you back to her place. The 6/10 will sometimes beat him by putting in a lot of social effort, but definitely not 100% of the time. And probably not most of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 12:50 AM
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You might as well say the same thing about money then. Bring down capitalism by stopping putting money on a pedestal. See how that works out for ya. If men eschew sex can you eschew handbags and shoes and a car for brown paper bags, slippers and a bicycle? At least the former (sex) is an actual biological need.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 12:39 AM
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It's not deregulated, it's OBSCURED. In the past, a good looking guy was seen with a girl and he was off the market because people lived in the real world and his situation was open and known. Now, everyone lives behind a screen and Stacy, Molly, Jane and Mary are all dating or FWBing him separately with Isabel, Stephanie and Janet joining the DM chat shortly thereafter.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 12:28 AM
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"Just respect yourself and touch yourself alone in your dark apartment"?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 12:18 AM
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No. You're confusing beta orbiters (which, let's be honest - your husband is one) with alpha widows. Honestly if your husband was good enough to sleep with that blonde chick a couple of times whenever he wanted - he probably would have been over her years ago. Ditto for that orbiter you know who dated a girl "for a few weeks in 2012". These are not typical men at all. And they haven't actually been widowed from anything lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 12:13 AM
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Not in domestic disputes between couples because there's high likelihood it will end up as 2 (the abuser and his victim) against 1 (you) when the police arrive. That's why if it's not a DD, women should make that clear "I don't know him" "He's a stranger" etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 12:06 AM
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Appearance also matters to a moderate degree Unless you are one of those hound dog guys who is flirting and approaching constantly, appearance matters a lot more than to a moderate degree. Most men have other goals that are important to them too and so aren't constantly on the hunt for women. Thats' where being good looking and consequently getting smiles and giggles from normal boring conversation comes in. Then you know you can escalate. Also I don't know why women think it is reasonable in 20…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/23 02:27 AM
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I think he meant that flirting is B.S. in the sense that flirting technique is rarely the problem. In movies, the guy who gets girls is very witty and charming. But in reality, the guys who get girls are just hot guys making normal conversation and getting a lot of smiles and giggles in response.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/23 02:17 AM
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Most of the married male doctors I work with are married to SAHMs/housewives. And I bet even more successful men with even higher-powered careers are even less likely to be dating, for example, a high powered lawyer working 80hr weeks or the like. The reason "power couples" are even given attention to is because it's NOT the most common pairing. Usually one person has a powerful job and the other supports it - almost always the man and woman, respectively.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 11:08 PM
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Not all ambitious women have the looks and personality men (including high earning men) want. In fact I would sat the majority of them don't. And men (including high earning men) care about a woman's looks and personality more than her salary.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 10:48 PM
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For one thing, there are a lot more hot baristas than hot successful female lawyers lol. I'd say it's hot female lawyer > hot barista >>>>>>>>non-hot female lawyers or baristas.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 12:17 AM
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Depends - if they are hot and young then 200k + older and ugly isn't going to work. I know from experience lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 12:13 AM
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Money, especially in this economy, greases the emotional wheels for a healthy relationship. I don't consider myself a hopeless romantic, but even I find that characterization ugly. I don't want a relationship that couldn't have existed without finances beyond just basic financial security. Also, there are lots of beautiful women in high paying careers. I don't know what this section is on about pretending that beauty and a good salary are mutually exclusive. Most men don't even go for women that…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 12:11 AM
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All things equal, a man would care. But it isn't very high on the list of priorities. A good looking woman with a sweet personality who cooks and is affectionate is the ideal for 90%+ of men. A good paying job is the next after those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 12:06 AM
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If it's consensual than it would what they BOTH want - wouldn't it? i.e., just putting up 100% of the effort while she puts up 0%. Saying "I want you to do whatever you want as long as I want you to do it" is kind of silly.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 11:46 PM
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If women were telling everyone en masse that they have no problem dating guys they want and getting commitment and loyalty from them - then nobody would have any advice. No problem - no advice. But since they are - we can tell them where their main issue is: going after a narrow spectrum of tall attractive men and discarding most other men either outright or after something silly they call "ick"s.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 10:24 PM
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Depends on their libido, stamina, and interest in spending time on other things. Sex is great but costs energy and time which people have a finite amount of. Do people have a finite capacity in their bank account?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 04:54 AM
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Sex and Money is not at all the same thing. You can definitely have too much sex. I imagine it would get boring and extremely tiring at some point. On the other hand, an extra '0' in your bank balance never hurts.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 01:57 AM
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A marriage based on gold-digging or staying together for the kids doesn't sound like success to me. But different strokes, I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 05:58 PM
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so many women (many good looking) are with men who physically resemble James Corden or Zach Galifianakis I don't see that. Good looking women are almost always with good looking men. And the few times they're not - we don't know if (A) that is even a romantic relationship or (B) the man is rich or supporting her. Of course there's also (C) the man and woman are pushing a stroller or with small kids. In which case it's likely the man was initially attractive to get her but got fat later and then …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 05:05 AM
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That was funny. But the statistics show that 70% of divorces are initiated by women - and when accounting for just college-educated women, that figure jumps up to 90%. So women are prone to leaving for a chance at a "better" man. I've also found that women are very (overly) optimistic when it comes to love. The percent of young women who believe they will marry a handsome millionaire is unusually high. The difference between general population and college educated is also very telling. It's very…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 04:47 AM
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70% of divorces are initiated by women - and when accounting for just college-educated women, that figure jumps up to 90%. So what is a "starter wife"? It's a woman who was married to a guy, who then become very successful, and then "upgraded" from her to a supposedly better woman. But studies suggest women feel like they are too good for their husbands far more often than men do. Someone who had a "starter wife" and then remarried may have went from a middle class salary to a millionaire. But w…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 04:40 AM
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Going out 1-on-1 with a female friend is like having to take a client out to show them a good night on the town. They just sit back and relax while you entertain them with jokes and fun banter (and like a client dinner, you might also get stuck with the bill). The only way it makes any sense is if you're trying to sell them on something (or perhaps on someone - you).
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 04:28 AM
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I did but it didn't really get me any results so I stopped putting in extra effort around 28 and now just have a dad bod and dress non-flashy. Like I said, I've decided to stay single.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 12:16 AM
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At 24, I could barely get a date. How would I settle down?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 09:16 PM
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People low-key look down on others for a million different reasons. I'm not sure why being a hoe should be a protected class. If anything, it alludes to a particular moral stance which many people consider an important factor when choosing friends/business partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 09:01 PM
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You were being test-driven and she ultimately chose to purchase another vehicle. You weren't "used" for drives. She doesn't go to dealerships and test drive cars she has zero interest in buying. Nor does she keep going to dealerships to test drive cars after she already purchased one.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 08:54 PM
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No. I've decided to stay single. Haven't had a date in several years and don't plan on trying again.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 08:47 PM
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Yeah, so? Actually, I don't look that great anyway either now at 34 or back then at 24. But at least now I have a high education and a high paying job. The only thing I had going for me at 24 was being tall.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 06:36 PM
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I will never get married. But if I did, I would never want that situation. There will be so many resentments over the idea "why do I have to pay half of that if he/she uses it more?" "or why is he/she using that when it's mine and I paid for it?" God forbid one finances a car and they have to argue over the appropriate contribution to finance payment/insurance/gas the other should make based on occasional usage. Or what if it's an electric and he/she is charging it at home? You're going to try t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 06:23 PM
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34. I can't answer this because it varies so much. Between 22-32 specific age isn't a big factor determining looks. I can say however women my age and older definitely look much less attractive than 22-32. So it's kind of a binary "are you young" or "are you not young" that determines women's attractiveness. HOWEVER, though most 32 y/o's look fine, you're also aware they won't be attractive much longer. Whereas a 24 year old still has several more years.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 06:12 PM
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Yes. Unless they have an explanation for the fact that women do not initiate much online or IRL - yet somehow most of their messages are opening messages. Do you have a different view or are you just going to agree incredulously?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/23 05:14 AM
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Well they're wrong. It's common knowledge that women do not initiate much online or IRL. They are mostly sending replies. Whereas men are sending opening messages.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/23 04:35 AM
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Group 3 is a lot bigger than 10%. If you take out the older millennials and above (the pre-internet dating generations) than the younger group (current early 20s to early 30s) - it's as high as 1/3. And at least 1/4. Think about it - half of guys are below average. How many of that half never mention dating or hooking up or ever having a gf? A majority? Well most of them are Group 3er's.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 10:11 PM
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This is very easily explained. Women are sending REPLIES, not opening messages. And top 20% men are not sending opening messages to every women. So among the replies women do send, many are to men they find sort of unattractive or borderline. That's also why women's messages on the apps are often one-word and lukewarm and like pulling teeth. And men have to entertain and dance like a monkey (figuratively) in the messages to keep their interest. Also, women are much more discerning in what they f…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 10:03 PM
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What he's trying to say is that most of women's messages in that data are REPLIES to someone else's message. Everyone has a lower standard for a reply than for a message they send first to a stranger. If we could only count messages women send first - than there is no way they aren't being even more picky than men. Otherwise it wouldn't make common sense - who sends a flirty opening message to a stranger they find unattractive?? (But again, they might still reply to messages from borderline unat…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 09:55 PM
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A big problem with that: Messages sent by men and women are NOT the same. A huge % of women's messages are REPLIES to a message a man sent. If you like apple pie and someone sends you pecan pie you might still accept it. Doesn't mean that if you had to act first you wouldn't only go for pecan pies. In other words, given no further information, a reply to someone else's message is always lower threshold and lower interest than a message you send first.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 09:50 PM
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Nice little diatribe. (Unfortunate) fact is that race is a big factor in opposite-sex attraction and it effects predominantly Black women & Black men, Indian men, East Asian men and Hispanic men (basically black women & all non-White men). Now don’t get me wrong, there’s some ethnic features that are not popular in a white dominated society. But a beautiful woman is still beautiful despite race. No man in real life is saying Beyoncé isn’t attractive because she black or would be more attractive …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 06:02 PM
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I don't decide who is attractive and who is not. Severall studies have proven that women of all races (except Black) find White men the most attractive and South Asian (Indian) men the least. Whereas men find White and East Asian women the most attractive and Black women the least.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 01:16 PM
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A is slightly below average because she's overweight and a racial minority. (40% of US adults 20-39 are obese, and 13% are black. So that's not "average") B is very below average because she's very masculinized. C is very below average because she's morbidly obese. (only 11.5% of US adults are morbidly obese - defined BMI>40) They are all below average and it's comical that women put these up as "average".
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 11:22 AM
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