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5

It’s what you want after all. Enjoy
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 07:59 AM
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Woosh. Tell you what, you find them. This is your obsession, not mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 07:51 AM
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so? You can find other examples too you know? Examples of strength, humanity, courage, etc. You find what you seek. What you seek is a reflection of your own character.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 07:37 AM
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how you view others is a blueprint for your own behavior
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 07:19 AM
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blah blah blah How superficial can you possibly be? This is what you base your world view on? A serial killer who took advantage of women in the goddamn 80s? This is what you base your personality on? My god. Get off the internet
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 07:16 AM
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you can cry all you want. No one cares. Its clear you aren't up to this conversation
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 07:10 AM
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pathetic
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 07:08 AM
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what a perfect response. You don't deserve to know what I'm yapping about.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 07:07 AM
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it isn't advice for anyone. This is you screaming into the void. You're talking to people here. Remember that
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 07:03 AM
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I haven't encountered anyone. You are getting off on these online interactions. I love people. I really do. People are smart. Funny, industrious. inventive. creative. I'm so sorry you have such a negative experience. I hope one day you can see how great people (both men and women) can be.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 07:01 AM
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convincing yourself that the people you treat poorly deserve that treatment isn't new. You aren't being inventive or clever. You are doing what every other asshole in human history has done. Convinced yourself that you have a right to act this way and when others act exactly like you, well...... lol its really funny. you judge the hell out of them. You deserve to be you
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 06:50 AM
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so you deserve the life you lead.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 06:45 AM
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nah.... shut up. I am so sick of this privileged behavior. You. YOU seek men who exhibit behavior like this and obsess over it. Then and only then do you find women who you think meet these characteristics. There is a big old world out there friend. Plenty of people who would disprove your viewpoint but YOU don't pay attention to that kind of shit, do you? I cannot be held accountable for the world you choose to live in. Privileged boy, you could leave this mentality at anytime but it suits you.…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 06:42 AM
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shut up with this. You're a fool. Women do sense this but we are told by men like YOU that these traits are to be admired. we are forced to second guess our initial judgements. Told that we cannot understand. That we LACK the capacity to see this kind of bullshit. We see it. When you benefit from this behavior, you call women paranoid for pointing it out. When you DON'T benefit from this behavior, you call women harlots for engaging. I hate this. We all hate this.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 06:38 AM
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So do it. Be a rapist, pedo, and serial killer, if that’s what you glorify. If that what you think success looks like, go on then.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 05:40 AM
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Can you explain it to me? If you think I’m grossly misrepresenting it here, break it down. Walk me through it. What is the red pilled dating strategy?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 05:29 AM
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Women are going to support women . It’s a survival strategy deeply ingrained in our dna. If you lack the intelligence required to understand that gossip is beneficial to a social specie but rape is not, I don’t know what to tell you. Also psychopaths exhibit several of the same characteristics that men glorify.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 05:18 AM
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Sigh. Way to miss the joke . It’s a wonder you all struggle with dating
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 05:13 AM
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Incorrect. In fact your complaints regarding the red pill strategy seem to center around the shortcomings in direct relation as to the quality of women the strategy attracts. Isn’t that funny? It’s funny to me. In a morbid sense of course. Psychopaths don’t see people, they see tools. The red pill strategy preys on women who lack the ability to defend against the idea that they are objects. I’m talking about victims of abuse who have been trained to believe that they aren’t worth anymore than th…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 05:07 AM
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I have a theory. A while ago someone posted a study about why the psychopath reproductions strategy was successful. Psychopaths lie and cheat and therefore tend to reproduce "more successfully" (relatively) than men who abide by the standard and most successful (overall) mating strategy of signaling traits that a long term partner would demonstrate. The misconception centered around the idea that psychopaths are more successful overall (they aren't). See here's the thing. The Red pill dating str…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 04:05 AM
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I have a theory. A while ago someone posted a study about why the psychopath reproductions strategy was successful. Psychopaths lie and cheat and therefore tend to reproduce "more successfully" (relatively) than men who abide by the standard and most successful (overall) mating strategy of signaling traits that a long term partner would demonstrate. The misconception centered around the idea that psychopaths are more successful overall (they aren't). See here's the thing. The Red pill dating str…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 04:04 AM
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When was the last time your honesty came without cruelty? You aren't being judged for being honest, you're being judged for being needlessly cruel in many situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 03:52 AM
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its exactly within this ambiguity in which civil rights are violated. I keep seeing this sentiment. "Point to the law that excludes women!" Point to the representatives. How many women represent a nation in which women represent 50% of the public. Its like walking into a high school and saying " I don't see anyone being actively bullied, so bullying clearly isn't a problem"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 03:50 AM
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yes, its you. You can't handle the truth. If you could you wouldn't say "we are trying to be nice" You know you're not. I know you're not. So who are you lying to here?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 03:11 AM
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what? im so depressed you got upvotes for complaining about your boys reporting you for misogyny
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 03:09 AM
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haha tru
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 03:05 AM
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you aren't trying to hurt feelings? Jesus it would be nice if some of you had integrity
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 03:05 AM
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shut up. If you aren't going to be honest fuck right off. "Men haaaaate sexxxx......" Shut the fuck up
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 03:04 AM
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welcome strange European friend. A lot of you have trouble with this so let me explain. Reddit is mainly American users so we use lbs for weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 03:03 AM
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women complain about the orgasm gap because we don't get orgasms. You have the same problem? 90% of the time you have sex, you don't get to climax?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 03:02 AM
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im not your boy, friend
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 03:00 AM
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but they do it!!! cry me a river, if you replicate behavior you don't respect don't expect respect
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 02:27 AM
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and then there's you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 02:25 AM
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and what do you do? What do you contribute to our great society?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 02:25 AM
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so do like we do. Go talk to the boys. Unless you just want to fight with women. Is that what you are here for? To fight with women?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 06:29 AM
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Sometimes we would rather you didn’t put out but we just play the part. no, see that's the thing, You don't know me. Your knowledge of one woman doesn't make you an expert on women. You don't know how me and my partner approach sex and you can't articulate my or his experience just based on your own. Stop bitching at random women on the internet. We aren't your partner
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 06:28 AM
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Again, none of these things are my problem yet you keep telling me about it. So why? What can I do here?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 06:19 AM
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right. the point you're missing is that sex is an intimate experience between two individuals. If you aren't satisfied its probably better to communicate with your partner rather than bitch at strangers on the internet. We can't help you. none of use can help you with your personal intimate relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 06:15 AM
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what do you want here? What's the reaction you were hoping for?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 06:12 AM
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Im sorry for your experience. So what you want is for women to feel contrite over their poor performance. What does this look like? A public shaming kind of thing or a letter in which they express their regret?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 06:09 AM
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Again I'm not sure why this is a "you women need to hear this" problem. What effect would you like to see as a result of this complaint? Ideally speaking, what's the best case scenario?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 06:02 AM
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lol maybe you should take a break and come back. You don't have any power here repeating the same made up thing. If I said you were mad because you are really just three raccoons in a trench coat, it wouldn't have much impact would it? maybe get a cup of coffee or something
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 05:57 AM
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Maybe. God knows we don't hear any complaints no matter what we do so long as we put out. So what do you think we should do here? what's the path forward? Just awareness or?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 05:55 AM
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crying that men can't help but to fuck and cheat like animals. You keep pretending not to understand the overall theme of these threads which halts the conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 05:47 AM
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wrong. you don't understand people like you think you do. My anger comes from the fact that I've experienced better and yet you all sit here and cry about how you just can't help it. That and the addictive nature of reddit. This site is terrible. I should not be on here
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 05:44 AM
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you think that because I haven't been cheated on that I don't have a dating experience? This makes me kind of sad for you
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 05:39 AM
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this argument has zero power. I wasn't cheated on. You are using a made up scenario to avoid accountability. Good lord dude
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 05:37 AM
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I sit here and watch men cry to the heavens about how women won't take accountability, but I have yet to see one of you acknowledge the hateful rhetoric directed towards women that is common in these threads.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 05:33 AM
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if you sit here and pretend you don't see the words and intentions of these men then you are no better than the women you criticize
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 05:32 AM
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From plenty of experience with this stuff I think they're missing the point on purpose. They don't like changing or taking accountability. They'd rather keep all these contradictory and confusing rules and have men take all the risk and do all the work.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 05:28 AM
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Keep this energy then Let me guess. Some guy cheated on you, then said he couldn't control himself. News flash. He lied to you. Men don't get sex thrown at them so that they could "lose control". There is no such moment for men. He lied to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 05:24 AM
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the words are there for you and anyone else to read them. you have resorted to calling me crazy when we all know what the comments say here. we have nothing further to discuss.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 05:21 AM
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you've said your peace. I don't think there's anywhere else for this conversation to go
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 05:19 AM
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sure. Women are just as dangerous as men. According to you
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 05:17 AM
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I am. You can play dumb all you want. we all see the evidence. in this case its all in writing
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 05:15 AM
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but you sit here and scoff at me when I show you examples of my experience. The person watching a woman get assaulted and doing nothing is no better than the person assaulting the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 05:14 AM
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you all go real quiet when I show you your own words
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 05:12 AM
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No is isn't. I have two illegitimate children and it most certainly isn't my responsibility to raise them. Bastards have been around forever. Just getting rid of the name of the thing doesn't somehow eliminate the thing
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 05:11 AM
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Let me guess. Some guy cheated on you, then said he couldn't control himself. News flash. He lied to you. For him to cheat on you, he had to put hours of intentional concerted effort to get to that sex. It didn't just happen in a moment of poor self control. That's not how sex happens for men. He had to consciously decide to cheat on you and did so hours before it happened. heres a comment from a man heres another No is isn't. I have two illegitimate children and it most certainly isn't my respo…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 05:06 AM
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This is the measure of a man. From your own mouth, no better than a dog who sees a hotdog left unattended. Stop bitching about the 'bear in the woods' sentiment if you acknowledge that you all are no better than animals .
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 04:59 AM
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so we should in fact be scared when we meet a strange man in the woods correct? Because even cocaine is not as tempting as getting to fuck a woman?? So when we are alone. With you. In the woods, with no one to hold you accountable. Why should I treat you any differently than a dangerous animal?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 04:57 AM
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notice how none of your criticism was due to you being treated poorly as the direct action of a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 04:55 AM
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cool. throughout this thread men are arguing that their basic human nature and sex drive cannot be controlled. then you say shit like this. Id kill for even one of you to be as honest as you say you wish women were
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 04:49 AM
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"there's no self control" meanwhile I am arguing with another man on this thread about how men shouldn't be labeled as threats. I get real sick of this weaponized ignorance.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 04:47 AM
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blah blah blah. "whaaaaaaaa why can't I get a high value woma..... sniff sniff, I'll take the first pussy I can get yayyyyyyy!!!!"
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 04:35 AM
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Its not your job to raise the kid you made? I want to make sure that's what you are saying here, I am going to screen shot this comment so I can use it the next time a guy rages about how men are treated unfairly in custody battles. This is funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 04:33 AM
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do you get this angry when kids are wary of strangers? When people lock their doors? Are you one of those men who say that "men don't actually commit the majority f violent crime, women are just better at hiding it" If men aren't bad, your first issue should be with the ones in this very sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 04:31 AM
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cool here's some comments on what you and your friends think about women in this thread alone. TRP isn't about treating women as equals, so yeah, it's normal that they have different standards for men and women. Women married men because they couldn't support themselves, so they married the wealthiest man who wouldn't beat them or cheat on them, ergo they endured a lifetime of lying beneath ugly men while thinking of England. Women like this are unable to comprehend the depth of experiencing gro…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 04:29 AM
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sure. I see you. your viewpoints and intentions are clear
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 04:11 AM
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no, you're not being genuine. you are lashing out and there's nothing I can do.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 04:10 AM
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I would actually love to talk about this genuinely. Why is this such an offensive sentiment? Women aren't talking about taking direct action against men, they are just talking about the fact that a wild animal is easier to deal with than a human man who might have nefarious intent. I remember when this first started to gain traction and I thought "its a good thing, men will see the experience of a woman." I've had men since then do things that made me so thankful. Fully well knowing the size and…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 04:09 AM
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ohhhh my god. I totally wasted time typing that out didn't I? I guess I'm just not as militant as you when it comes to this stuff. Why are you here if you would get the same benefit from talking into a mirror?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 04:02 AM
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its also up to you to raise the kid that might result in your reaction. Or are you an animal who can't be trusted?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 03:59 AM
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The way you view others is a blueprint for your own character this quote bugs you huh? My father and brothers warning me about not trusting strange men is not an unusual thing. But your assertations are. Do you get offended when parents tell their children to be wary of strangers? Do you sneer at people who lock their front door? If the only way you can defend your argument is though being disingenuous, you're probably not a trustworthy person.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 03:54 AM
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yea. yea. men who are disproportionately offended with the bear comment are pretty consistent in their rhetoric though. My father and brothers were the first people to tell me not to trust men. Not my mom or any other women. So please stop with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 03:47 AM
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if men are no better than animals, needing to get sexual gratification as often as possible, then they certainly shouldn't be in charge of any important decisions. My god, the amount of men who sit here an say "men can't help themselves" and "women don't hold themselves accountable" in the same breath is disturbing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 03:44 AM
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are you scared to address what I said?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 03:40 AM
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you think men don't lie?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 03:39 AM
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jesus...... thanks for that insight. You are not a high value man
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 03:39 AM
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I know it seems harsh. And in a less hostile environment I might be able to articulate my point better but I will try here. Every single man has had an instance where they have been ridiculed because of 'girly behavior'. If the worst insult in boyhood is "you're a girl" what do you think the mentality towards girls is going to be? If even women, myself included, can be influenced by this way of thinking, what do we really expect when it comes to men. I've said these words myself "I don't hang ou…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 03:37 AM
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Way to miss the point. "women said they are scared of men so I am going to CONCIOUSLEY CHOOSE to treat them poorly." reread what I said and come back. If women saying "I don't want to encounter a strange man in the woods" makes you feel justified in being hateful towards women, that's your choice. That's who you are
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 03:29 AM
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haha I know women from the eastern block. I have friends from Moldova, Poland, and Ukraine. We have a foreign work exchange company where I live. These women aren't stupid and they'd kick yours ass if they saw the shit you're spewing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 03:27 AM
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uh huh. keep coping. then come back here and talk about how women don't take accountability for their behavior. You guys are cartoon characters. This is ridiculous
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 03:25 AM
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sure, put your wife on. Lets see what she thinks about your viewpoints
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 03:23 AM
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women are protected because we give birth to your fucking kids. If you would dump us on the street then you are a low value man. If you don't see what women offer as worth protecting or valuing that's fine. Don't bitch about not being able to get your hands on what you think is worthless.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 03:23 AM
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it all washes out in the end. You want to be the king of the frat bro group, you get to marry a woman of similar quality.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 03:21 AM
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I might have misunderstood your comment about gatekeeping then Women aren't 'gatekeeping' They are being selective because they risk more when they have sex. women should be selective. There are a lot of piggy men out there
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 03:15 AM
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You just be very direct and upfront. Then once you get a reputation the women who are in heat will come find you. I don't recommend men sleep around. I recommend men follow the law of chastity and look for a wife. Im so sick of this cowardly behavior
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 03:11 AM
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men don't lie. this is embarrassing
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 03:09 AM
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sure, just please don't come crying to this sub because all you can find are girls who you don't want a relationship with. You all talk about high value women. None of these women are going to date dumpster divers.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 03:08 AM
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yes, the guy that got all the low hanging fruit by debasing himself is the king. You know, there's money just lying around all over the place, you just have to dig in other people's bags to get it. You are responsible for you. You wanna sleep around because its more important to cum in the first girl who will give you a chance, same with dogs eating the first thing they find on the street. You don't get to be respected for being sleezy
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 03:06 AM
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This is cowardly. You are the only gatekeeper when it comes to the caliber of your character. You can find all the shitty people in the world and use them as a basis for your behavior, but it is you who decides to do that and you who acts in a way that emulates the people you don't respect. I don't walk around in filthy clothes just because I saw someone else doing it. I don't pee myself in public because the drunk guy on the train did it. Have some self respect. You wanna be a shitbag, go for i…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 03:03 AM
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good for you. Keep doing whatever works and fulfills you
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 03:01 AM
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it does. If you lie to get your way you are a liar. plain and simple. You can't remove your personality from the conscious decisions you make when interacting with others. If you treat others poorly to get your way, that's who you are. Whether its pussy, money, or drugs that you're desperate for, you compromised your quality of character. No one did it for you
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 03:00 AM
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sure. look you want to defend redpillers but you don't want to take responsibility for it. I can't continue a conversation with an eel. You're just going to squirm out of taking responsibility for your viewpoints while clearly wanting to argue from that same stance your so terrified to defend. Maybe I'm being too harsh. Probably. In that case I'm sorry. But its frustrating you know? you say things like "so why should men be fit in the red pilled ideology? " To get women and to not be losers. but…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 02:58 AM
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a man is always going to be keen. hmmmm The real reason why the double standard comes into play is because when it comes to LTRs and settling down, the woman will then suddenly make the guy wait, take it slow or give him the prude treatment yes, if you cant get her right away you start fiending like a junky, right? A man always show sexual interest regardless This is your viewpoint. What did you mean when you said these things?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 02:52 AM
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Sorry, I get bored with conversations like this. You won't be genuine. You don't even understand your own perspective. Its tough talking to someone who is this flighty.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 02:47 AM
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I did. If you lie, cheat, and steal to get off, that's who you are. You don't change just because you want to be taken care of by a woman. You have no integrity. You throw your moral character aside just to make your cock feel good. That's not a high value man
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 02:45 AM
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Men who are desperate for women probably have loose moral character. His behavior while seeking base pleasure shows who he is. He wants to get off by any means necessary. He will lie, cheat and steal to feel pleasure. This is a low value man
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 02:43 AM
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the act of sleeping around shows he has no self control and will do what ever he needs to do to get laid. This is what we call a low value man. He's no better than a junkie
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 02:42 AM
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if you copy and past my text and then highlight the part you want to quote, under the formatting options you will find a symbol that looks like a 99. this will format my quotes for you so you don't have to use quotation marks. yip yip yip yip
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 02:40 AM
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except.... you guys demean yourselves for the sole purpose of getting laid. How can anyone respect you after you've thrown your values in the trash just to get a piece? You don't deserve a respectable woman if you can't even respect yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 02:38 AM
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You chose to engage in this conversation. If your feelings are hurt you can walk away. Listen, you got on here to fight with women, don't yip like a puppy when one bites to hard. If this is to much for you walk. away
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 02:35 AM
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so we have nothing further to discuss. You're right (based on decades of research) and I'm wrong. Walk away.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 02:27 AM
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you're projecting. I'm not upset. I don't come here to get riled up, I come here for sport. Its like shooting fish in a barrel. None of you can defend your viewpoints. This is fun for me
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 02:27 AM
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if you don't think stress and pent up energy cause disease that's fine. I was just trying to give you a heads up. Throw what I'm saying away if that's what you think is best
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 02:22 AM
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I don't take naps because other people are upset. If you want to walk away from this conversation, you have the opportunity to do so at any given time I'm asking you to be genuine. Either you're defending the red pill or not but being cowardly about your intentions is just that. Cowardly. You want to argue with me about my views on the red pill but you refuse to take a stand. How does THIS behavior fall into the red pilled ideology?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 02:18 AM
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or just keep ramping up. I don't know you and your decisions don't affect me to its whatever, but what do you think your body is going to do with all this pent up energy? Cancer is caused when cells uncontrollably reproduce and invade the surrounding tissue. Heart disease and nervous system problems are directly influenced by your emotional regulation. You can sit here and work yourself up regarding the imaginary wicked woman all you want. im just telling you its bad for your health. you do you …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 02:14 AM
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how about you do what you seem to believe and grow some balls here? Say what you wanna say. "I don't support the red pill ideology but I'm going to sit here and nitpick at you for criticizing it." Say what you wanna say or go to bed
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 02:10 AM
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wow. I love that you guys come here an type this shit out. "ya my dad was a terrible person, but I blame my mother." if you aren't being funny you need to get the hell off the internet. This kind of hate is going to cause a chronic disease. People who carry this much resentment develop cancer, heart disease, and a bunch of other diseases that affect the nervous system. Go talk to someone
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 02:08 AM
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so find the first woman who will love you for your paycheck. marry her. You win.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 02:03 AM
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so why should men be fit in the red pilled ideology? How do they treat men who aren't fit?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 02:00 AM
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they are. every tenant of the red pill ideology is hypocritical. If you treat women like objects to be gained like trophies you are dehumanizing another person. If you rag on men for not adhering to your strategy, you are dehumanizing men as well. No one should be subject to this philosophy. Its toxic and reduces humans to sexual objects in both directions. How can you possibly find a meaningful connection if you spend years believing the superficial bullshit peddled by the red pill? "im not def…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 01:55 AM
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I don't care. Its not a good ideology no matter how you cut it. Fitness can be promoted without misogyny
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 01:46 AM
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im telling you how your behaving and why its not working. We see through you
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 01:44 AM
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they also view women as incompetent idiots who are worth nothing outside of the bedroom. Its not about the weight thing. Its about understanding that women are humans.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 01:38 AM
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because this "we just wish women would like us" argument is gross considering ALL of the women you are talking to have had this experience where men cry and whine and paint themselves as victims just so they can fuck us. You don't want our interest, our sympathy, our companionship. You want our bodes and we aren't stupid. You wanna know why women find this behavior so gross? I can remember as a little girl, (11 or 12) talking to GROWN men who were acting weirdly pathetic. The "no one loves me" (…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 01:35 AM
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Interesting. thanks for sharing this perspective. Afterall, we all want to believe what we are doing is justified. Good point.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 01:26 AM
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Complain about it yourself. I....am?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 01:23 AM
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right, and again, I agree. The IQ isn't there
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 01:21 AM
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If the IQ isn't there I cant explain it to you. I agree, your ability to articulate your ideas or even fully understand those ideas are completely inhibited by your IQ. Luckily for you intelligence is fluid. If you read, expose yourself to new ideas and thoughts, and challenge yourself critically, one day you might get there. One day. But not today. Have a good night
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 01:20 AM
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nice comeback.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 01:17 AM
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why do you all keep responding with nonsense? what are you talking about? ohhhhh I think I get it. You have no ability to self reflect. 'Why would I look in a mirror? I don't wanna fuck myself!" great argument. What a mystery it is that you all can't get laid
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 01:11 AM
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If it works its crazy that so many of you are on here crying. Maybe its not a great tool huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 01:08 AM
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what? don't get me wrong, I think you are the perfect spokesman for the redpilll. You're doing a great job representing redpillers as nothing better than flat earthers. But for the sake of integrity I have to tell you, this reply is nonsense
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 01:06 AM
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Well Red Pill is one of the 1st movements to even shed light on the topic. the feminist movement shed light on the severity of SA. Don't kid yourself. Without feminists you would never be able to speak about this openly to the patriarchy. Don't think so? Do me a favor and look into Terry Cruz, Anthony Rapp, and Tyler Perry. Are these men Red pillers? Because they did the most courageous thing in this scenario and I bet you've never even looked into their stories. In social situations women are a…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 01:04 AM
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The way you view others is a blueprint for your own character. If you see a monster in every woman, you will act like a monster to women. If you can't see the good in others you will act in a way that is reactive and hateful. that's who you are. Reactive and hateful. You become the villain you imagine everyone else (in your case women) to be. Copy and pasted my own comment but it seems to be applicable across a range of comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 12:51 AM
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I see this again and again. Its projection. The way you view others is a blueprint for your own character. If you see a monster in every woman, you will act like a monster to women. If you can't see the good in others you will act in a way that is reactive and hateful. that's who you are. Reactive and hateful. You become the villain you imagine everyone else (in your case women) to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 12:50 AM
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manipulate their man to do so. this is conspiracy theory bullshit and you know it. Men write the history books. Men make up the majority of judges, politicians, and law enforcement. For this to be remotely true you would have to support the idea that women are evil masterminds who are part of a cabal who has maintained the facade that women commit less crime throughout all of history and every single culture and country on earth. Do the redpill thing and face the truth here. Also empathy isn't s…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 12:39 AM
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so go manipulate and fuck shallow women. if that's what you want, and it gets results, go do it. but don't come here and cry about not landing quality women when you have debased yourself like a drug addict in order to get pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 12:24 AM
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yep. this is why they don't settle with the girls who agree with their ideology. instead they come on here and rage at the women they hate. its something else.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 12:23 AM
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you would think so. the problem is that they would have to hold themselves accountable for their own quality of character in that case. The red pill provides them with a way out of accepting the reality of their own situation. It gives them a scape goat to point to. The irony, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 12:20 AM
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so the formula is simple. Find a woman desperate to be provided for. provide for her and marry her. you both get exactly what you deserve want
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 12:17 AM
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the red pill ideology was founded by a psychopath. Now all of these little boys who follow it don't understand what they are following. If they aren't psychopaths, it doesn't work. Then they complain about getting their feelings (something psychopaths don't have) hurt. its really pathetic
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 12:15 AM
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who cares? its all cope and you know it. There's nothing special about a self indulgent brotherhood who enables its members to continue blaming others for their own problems
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 12:07 AM
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men do these critical jobs in order to provide necessities for society right? Who births and raises the society you work for? You can pat yourself on the back all you want for providing these services but because you sneered at work women do, intentionally devalued and discouraged 'women's work' you will have no one to provide these services for in the very near future. Who maintained the house while you were away? Who fed and cared for the offspring? Who made the house a home and the neighborho…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 12:04 AM
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you too. Be independent and take care of yourself and your mental health. prove it by maintaining a healthy body weight and taking responsibility for your behavior. Don't use loneliness as an excuse to lash out at women
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 11:57 PM
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news flash, they're the same. and if not it doesn't matter. just shitty people justifying shitty actions. its easier to blame your behavior on an ideology than it is to take accountability for your decisions
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 11:54 PM
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its like a drug addict who pretends to be your friend so they can get money from you
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 11:53 PM
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exactly. men don't like us but will lie in order to fuck us. You all sit here and tell us all day. god forbid we take your own words sincerely
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 11:52 PM
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bada bing bada boom spot on
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 11:49 PM
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Women in a traditional, unequal relationship didn't have to take care of themselves, No matter whether you think women should be in the workforce or the kitchen, undervaluing a persons contribution gets you exactly what you deserve. No women. If we are perceived as do nothing when we raise an entire fucking family and maintain a household, then we might as well forgo that and make money in the workforce.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 11:48 PM
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last time I weighed myself I was around 121. your little digs have no power here sweetheart
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 11:45 PM
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sure. have a good one
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 11:41 PM
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thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 11:40 PM
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Nothing huh? So don't cry about our absence from your life. You can't even refrain from contradicting yourself. If she can't take care of herself, she can't take care of her children, so she needs to either sort herself out or be submissive to her husband and let him take care of her. She takes care of the children as her husband takes care of her, like a historically normal relationship. In one sentence you equate a woman's worth to her ability to tend to children, stating that mentally unfit w…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 11:38 PM
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so why the hell are you on here disparaging women? You got a girlfriend and it seems like things are going well for you. What are you so riled up about? Does your girlfriend know you get on here and say shit like this about women? Please Take your ego out of it. You know what I am saying here.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 11:34 PM
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is this a picture of you?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 11:32 PM
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Its a real passion. I can even wire them with lights. I just made a Japanese style candy shop. I love my mini houses
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 11:32 PM
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or be submissive to her husband and let him take care of her. in this second scenario, who is taking care of the children Furthermore, if she is mentally able does that mean she has no obligation to be submissive?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 11:30 PM
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its inference. none of them have the red pill balls to say what they think.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 11:27 PM
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Most men don't like women. You aren't a pioneer here. you are just doing what you already want to do because challenging yourself is difficult but justifying your feelings is easy None of you took the 'red pill' You all just bragged about it because you want the recognition without doing the work chicken
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 11:26 PM
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because you sit here and act shitty to women who's hobbies don't measure up to your standards, and then bitch about how women aren't interesting. You don't care about getting to know people. I would kill to share my interests with someone who was into in the same things. But this is the kind of personality the guys who have the same interests seem to display. I want you to imagine for a second that me and you were part of the same social circle. You would never know I am into what you consider '…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 11:22 PM
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weight being a personal failure is a critique that can be applied to all humans since there are as many fat men as there are women. I think its funny to watch red pillers (the ambassadors of harsh truths supposedly) squirm around this point. You all are just as shallow as the women you criticize.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 11:13 PM
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What i said doesn't apply to you which part?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 11:09 PM
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god. You guys will routinely post shit like this and have the audacity to complain about not being able to land said pussy. Forget hobbies, have you tried not being insufferable?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 11:07 PM
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I'm a woman. Here's a few of my hobbies. Learning Japanese Kanji. Watching anime. Building miniature houses. Playing video games. Doing puzzles. Learning how to animate with different software. Developing story boards. Arguing on reddit. You see. We have hobbies. And personalities. But interesting women avoid men like you. Sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 10:59 PM
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I can't help but feel like this is a little childish. You're complaining about the neutral advice offered by strangers online when you complain about a problem. This is not a personal attack. Its just people trying to address your issue after you complain about your issue. If you want the advice to be more specific, you have to be more specific about the problems you encounter. But no one really wants to do that on this site. No one wants to be specific about who they actually are. So guess what…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 10:53 PM
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the red pill ideology.... Its all about facing harsh truths right? So tell me, do you want the sympathy of someone you don't respect? Be honest now, since you're so red pilled
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 10:36 PM
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sure. that's why most of the complaints on this site center around men who have been pursued by women only to find out those women don't like them as a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 10:34 PM
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how
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 01:23 AM
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it hurts when I match your energy huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 01:22 AM
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gross
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 01:22 AM
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nothing you said is worth addressing. Its a delusional pity party Genuinely loved and desired by women? Nothing about these arguments are genuine. They are manipulative and self-indulgent
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 01:22 AM
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The attention of men who view us as commodities is not a blessing. You wine and wail about lack of empathy but its so shocking because you don't understand this simple thing. I can't feel sorry for someone because they didn't get to use my body while dismissing me as a person. Its like saying I should feel sorry for the scammers who fail to empty my bank accounts. A lot of you don't want empathy from women. You'd throw it back in our faces if we gave you the empathy without sex. Your intentions …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 06:33 AM
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God conversations get boring when one person does this kind of thing. I appreciate genuine questions that further the conversation but this is cringe. If you have something to say say it, don't make me answer stupidly obvious questions for the sake of your own ego
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 06:04 AM
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because, even when they hate women, they still actively seek them. Lucky us
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 05:55 AM
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nice pretzel you've twisted yourself into there. integrity really is rare "I want to hate on women but I don't want to be perceived as hating women." pick one bro
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 05:49 AM
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what did you mean by it then? enlighten me
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 05:41 AM
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please. It's both lmao. Women want to fight society on what's considered conventionally attractive because of "toxic beauty standards" but will ABSOLUTELY expect men to be conventionally attractive. and then you went on to say you talk to women as little as possible. This whole post is about why women 'invalidate' men's dating issues. Its because you hate us. Why would I show empathy to someone who doesn't think I'm worth interacting with outside of having sex. You want human emotions, treat us …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 05:39 AM
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men who hate women actively pursue women Women who hate men avoid men
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 05:32 AM
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yes you can parrot words you don't understand while contributing nothing. Good for you
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 05:26 AM
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right I was talking about why i reacted to the post the way i did, hence the To be fair, in this case, I don't think the OP's intent was malicious.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 05:24 AM
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men hate women. they tell us how we should be thankful for the attention while making sure we understand how little we are worth outside of the bedroom I dont interact with women if I dont have to. But good try at that gotcha moment. edit: I added your comment incase you delete it. Its such a perfect example of my statement
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 05:23 AM
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men who hate me actively pursue me. A man who can't stand me because he has nothing but contempt for women will still actively seek to be a part of my life. Don't conflate our experiences. They are not the same. We understand why you are fussy. You all scream at the top of your lungs about it all the time. We have no choice but to hear it. You don't know what its like to be prized by pigs as a lovely hole, and then told that you should be thankful for the attention
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 05:22 AM
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Do you treat unattractive women with respect?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 05:08 AM
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There is no malicious intent. That's what always drives me crazy about these types of complaints. Its the same thing that pisses me off when women are shitty to other women just because they are young and pretty. Being angry at someone who is just living their lives and developing a personal vendetta in your head against someone who has taken no direct action towards you makes you the villain. You are the wicked step mother.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 05:06 AM
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It seems to happen either way, I didn't develop this lovely shade of melancholy over night. Pretending not to understand the gravity of a situations, especially if it doesn't pertain to you, is weaponized ignorance. To be fair, in this case, I don't think the OP's intent was malicious. Now, please explain what problem I am pretending doesn't exist. I am not sure I understand what you are criticizing me for here. I have not said anything that downplays or ignores the birthrate crisis. Its a very …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 04:50 AM
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I can't shut down an entire post with a few comments. This sub reddit is hostile at best. If you post here you know what you are getting into so this whole, 'don't be mean' critique, while valid, isn't compelling. And I'm not being petty. This is a serious issue. Men will continue to belittle these types of things even as they come to fulfillment because they have the privilege of not being impacted directly I don't have that privilege and I am going to make noise about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 04:22 AM
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basically.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 03:35 AM
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I didn't click on your links but I promise you I will after you acknowledge that I am not being belligerent here. I'm not stupid, birth control will reduce birthrates. This can be an economic boon. But if we live in a society that punishes people for having kids, its not the birth control alone that deserves the blame. Shortsightedness will lead to birthcontrol and women being blamed however, and all before the underlying cause is addressed. If you punish people for having kids they stop having …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 03:33 AM
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If laws are changed so that insurance companies do not have to cover birth control, it will not be readily accessible. IUDs are under scrutiny right now. There are talks about requiring healthcare providers to report anyone seeking specific types of birth control or impose surveillance on reproductive healthcare access. Ambiguity is the weapon being used here. Its not going to be overt. Only the people who will be impacted will see the direct cause of these kinds of restrictions. Men who don't c…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 03:24 AM
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Ill concede that I jumped on you too harshly. But this is serious. Birth rate decline is a talking point among politicians all over the world. In countries where men are majorly represented solutions seem to revolve around restrictions on birth control
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 03:12 AM
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Its not a joke and the words you throw out mean something.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 03:07 AM
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The population decrease is going to heavily impact all of us. The threat to reproductive rights is a direct reaction to this problem. Again, you should look into these things instead of just shouting about what you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 03:05 AM
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think so? Do me a favor and make sure you don't delete this comment. I am excited to revisit the topic with you in a year or two
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 03:01 AM
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men think the solution to the birthrate crisis is to enslave women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 02:57 AM
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let me walk you through this. Women are at very real risk of having access to birth control taken away. Given than control over when to give birth allows women to access capital and meaningful participation in society, comments that support the removal of this right should be called out for what they are. You may not have the courage to say what you mean but we see what you want to say anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 02:56 AM
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so toughen up. you get on here to pick a fight, don't cry when you find one
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 02:52 AM
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no. You play stupid games you get stupid prizes. Im not going to pat you on the back for low effort
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 02:51 AM
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Wow. In countries where women have no autonomy they birth more babies. Ill inform the press
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 02:50 AM
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knowledge is valuable resource and if you are unwilling to work for it then you don't deserve it. You want me to spend the time to hand feed you information I've put the effort into learning myself? If you're lazy, you deserve what you have
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 02:35 AM
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Do you think the reason for low fertility rates is because we are having less sex compared to back then? A question you never thought to ask or seek an answer to. There is information out there in the wide world. But you have to ask questions rather than just articulating the first thought to come to your head as loudly as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 02:31 AM
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again another thought. Nothing went into this aside from the initial spark in your brain. And straight to the internet you go. No interest in informing yourself. No concern about fact checking or making sure you understand things completely. Right to the internet
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 02:27 AM
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You just thought this. No research. No checking against others. Just straight to the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 02:22 AM
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it entirely depends on the circumstance.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 10:08 PM
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I'm a dem
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 09:37 PM
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how so?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 09:37 PM
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I agree. its exactly the inability to understand differing perspectives that has put us in this position. But here's what the left doesn't seem to understand. They can afford to dismiss our viewpoints. We can't afford to dismiss theirs.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 08:32 PM
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Does being an a-hole make someone successful or do successful people get away with being a-holes? both. Not a lot of confusion here for me tbh. It entirely depends on the person and circumstance. I did frame it in a dichotomous sort of way but that was an unintended side effect of addressing another dichotomous view.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 03:38 AM
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ohhh, I see. You've gendered this discussion. Agree to disagree. Good luck out there
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 03:35 AM
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Testosterone increases risk-taking behavior, amplifies aggression and is linked to a higher sex drive in men. This seems to be the reason men commit more crime and that's not my theory. But they are also more likely to risk their lives for strangers and stand up to other men in defense of women and children. This is due to testosterone too. Nothing is all good or all bad. I don't personally think women should be sentenced less harshly for the same crime. I actually think men should be sentenced …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 07:10 AM
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I owe you a better apology than that. I don't know you and I don't have any right to judge you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 06:55 AM
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100% Im totally being a hypocrite. This place is terrible for the psyche. We know intellectually that we are talking to people but at the end of the day its artificial interactions and the lack of stimuli naturally associated with communication is absent. Tone, cadence, body language etc. We would never talk to each other this way in the real world and our brains probably have a very strange reaction to this type of interaction that we don't fully understand yet. And you know its funny. I have t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 06:52 AM
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haha you know at the end of the day I don't know you and this conversation has gone too far. my bad. Have a good one
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 06:40 AM
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I don’t think we need to try and be superior at all. I wonder why we lost.....
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 06:34 AM
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Exactly. Your beliefs are fundamentally different from liberals like me. and fundamentally different from conservatives. I think we should hold ourselves to a higher standard. and you?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 06:31 AM
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yes, i get that you think you should be free to treat the other guys badly. Everyone on this sub thinks that Im asking her not to. Im asking her to be better. And you? What do you have to say?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 06:23 AM
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Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 06:16 AM
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Do you realize what you're doing? Go back and reference where I said men are inherently bad. This reply is kind of shitty. I gave you solid points. I addressed your questions. You came back and summed up what I said incorrectly. I made some decent points. I put effort into my reply. What about you?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 06:14 AM
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Maybe. So go ahead and tell me what you mean by corresponding rights?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 06:09 AM
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I’m not morally superior to a murderer or a rapist You think you are morally and intellectually superior to conservatives. Nothing I have to say is of use to you and I regret spending effort on my replies.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 06:01 AM
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oh god. Imagine having to compare yourself to another species in order to justify your behavior. I can't with you guys anymore. I know the 'corresponding right' you're talking about is exactly the "Why cant I abandon my living child when she could have killed it in the womb????" bullshit. Its like talking to a flat-earther. The second someone brings up a legitimate point you call into question the whole institution whether it be the scientific community, economic logistics, or even human fucking…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 05:55 AM
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Among so so many other things. Quite frankly I think Trump is sweating his balls off right now and he is not our president but a con man who was desperate to regain the presidency in order to pay of the mobster/dictator's who he owes. You are not morally superior if you think you are morally superior. Everyone talks about how bad people are bad but the truth is most people convince themselves they are justified before doing the most horrible shit. I imagine my words will fall on deaf ears. Fuck …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 05:46 AM
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No. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 05:29 AM
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see my edit. Ya you gave two options. Two self-centered options "either they are evil and I am just or they are stupid and I am smart." He won because we allowed ourselves to forget what we were fighting for and instead descended into indulged little pricks. There. Change is never popular. Why would a bunch of whiney liberals who need safe spaces have what it takes to fight for something as momentous as change. We're cooked because liberals prioritized their own self-righteous egos over all they…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 05:28 AM
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AND SHE LOST For fucks sake what will it take to get through to you people. I thought the same stupid fucking thing! And then I got slapped in the fucking face on election night as I watched my countrymen elect Trump into office. Have you ever stopped to think about WHY they would elect him? Like what do you think really?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 05:14 AM
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Oh boy. This is not a good place for you. Unless your trolling, in which case, solid job But if not, really man.....this is kind of sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 05:05 AM
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haha perfect. Thanks for your input.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 05:03 AM
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woosh. Enjoy trump.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 05:03 AM
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fuckin A. I get a little irritated with this grandstanding bullshit when one of the most common topics is "if she can abort, why can't I abandon her and the baby?"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 05:01 AM
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Do you know a single man who is successful with women because of characteristics that are positive? Like, really. Is it possible to get a woman by being a decent guy in your opinion?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 04:57 AM
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Its exactly the unwillingness to view issues from the other sides perspective that landed us here. Other people are as sincere in their convictions as you are. They aren't stupid or misguided. I'm not asking you to abandon your convictions either. I'm trying to convince you that becoming a fanatic is worse than useless to the progressive cause. Its harmful
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 04:53 AM
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Haha your being criticized by a bleeding heart liberal here. I know people like you and I hate the theatrical farce you represent us as. You are the reason trump got elected
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 04:13 AM
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Again, I get that you don't understand this but I swear its true. Some men actually like women and enjoy being around them. Even when the woman in question isn't their mom That is still NOT a man propositioning you for marriage. Guys, again, you can't make this shit up. Here's another part that's gonna blow your mind, marriage isn't viewed as some weird obligational contract for a lot of people. In fact, the US government and your pastor are not required to sign off on your selection of a mate. …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 04:11 AM
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of course. She's the one expected to have the kids. She's the one expected to make the sacrifice of her body and access to capital and independence. You don't get something for nothing
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 04:04 AM
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Why won't these stupid bitches love me!? I am a nice guy!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 04:02 AM
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yep. one in the same, we deserve each other. No one has the common fucking decency to take accountability. Its their fault I act like this!!! So join them if you love them so much that you emulate them
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 04:01 AM
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Women are participating in capitalism and it turns out that unless you have a domestic labor force devoted to the home, you can't take part in capitalism unless you abandon that home. Men want to complain about women not wanting to have kids while being fanatics about how women should be punished for having kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 03:55 AM
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the female duty was never to clean the house. Men and women are both supposed to clean and contribute to domestic work. A WHOLE lot of people split shit evenly in the household and usually this works out. The duty that you are talking about? That's childcare. Its childcare that's being thrown around like a meaningless effort. Its childcare that's being sneered at. It's literally giving birth to and caring for a human child that has been so disgustingly devalued by people that we have a birthrate…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 03:51 AM
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wait until you find out about how attractive women are treated.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 03:47 AM
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no no no no no. If that were true that would mean that the culprit behind these guy's failures would be..... well.... WE DONT WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT!! lol
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 03:45 AM
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Tribal cultures tended to share recourses equally besides the elders having a little extra. Which ones? "History says that history is history and also science. Scientifically did you know that this scientific anthropological fact that I just said is true" You aren't saying anything. WHICH culture and tribe are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 03:40 AM
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ohhhh I see where you are confused. Some men like and want to be with the women they are having sex with. A lot of people are actually out to find partners in their lives. Like people they like being around and that they also like to fuck
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 03:34 AM
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I'm not that old so you must be a baby. People who just 'do what they want' and succeed enormously are usually trust fund babies. The rest of us get fucked over by fucking people over. Here's the truth no one wants to talk about. It only seems like others are getting what they want by 'doing whatever they want'. They aren't actually doing that. They just aren't obsessing over others like the people on this sub do. Its a combination of seeing the worst in everyone else and refusing to acknowledge…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 03:27 AM
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same for women. attractiveness is the ticket no matter the sex
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 03:06 AM
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Explain to me why is childcare 'worth nothing' when your wife does it and worth your mortgage a month when she can't? I feel like you guys focus so much on the emotional aspect of this that you've never thought about the economic implications. Edit: You know what else is funny? Men's jobs got easier too. You know that right? We all benefit from technological advancement but I don't see a single one of you guys disparaging men for having jobs that have been made easier with tech.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 02:46 AM
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the left and feminists are woefully out of touch. They make enemies like the people they are 'defending' can afford to have enemies and then flit to the next thing without a care in the world about the mess they made
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 02:42 AM
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Can you name a society/culture/time period where this was different?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 02:30 AM
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I have to disagree. There are plenty of people who can't see past themselves far enough to love what they see in others. And no, being loved isn't supposed to be easy. In fact, its precisely the action of loving another, of opening yourself up and shedding your ego in order to love another, which is so hard. The kicker here is even when you do that, even when you pay the cost of loving, there is no guarantee that you will be loved back. Its a risk, this is why so many people don't try to love or…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 02:22 AM
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LMFAO oh man.... ok lets do this Black people have different biology than white people huh? Why don't you walk me through that one. In what ways are black people genetically and biologically/genetically different than white people?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 01:57 AM
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You're not a sociologist. And you don't know how to interpret data. I'm literally going back and forth on whether you're trolling or if you are actually this poor at understanding information. It doesn't matter either way though. Have a good one
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 01:56 AM
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I would disagree with the conspiracy part, this is well known and documented. Plus a lot of it is common sense stuff. Because black people are targeted more harshly than other groups. Black people being more lively to be convicted harshly for the same crime (sound familiar?) sell funding for schools in predominantly black areas, employment discriminations, the sad part is this info is not just available, there are A LOT of them. The systemic oppression goes so deep that even when people openly t…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 07:06 AM
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Ya poverty can literally cause mental issues and health problems. Of course poverty is the common denominator when it comes to crime. Now we can talk about the systemic part wage disparities, access to quality education, healthcare costs, and tax structures favoring the wealthy keep poor people poor. Its rich isn't it? making the prison system so brutal while understanding the link between crime and poverty but then intentionally creating barriers for upward mobility towards certain members of y…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 06:23 AM
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Are you saying that society is systemically racist and classist? Um... Yes? Our society is systemically racist and classist.... Maybe I don't understand what you are asking here?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 05:58 AM
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no im not gonna throw a pity party for a guy who is mad that his imaginary future wife might cheat on him. Do you people even hear yourselves? Having a child with someone is one of the most intimate things in the world ya these guys think that huh? please, a top subject on here is "if she can abort I should be able to abandon her and the baby" Stfu
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 01:41 AM
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you mean the graphs labeled "Pre-Employment Transition Services for Students with Disabilities"? This is like how you completely failed to understand comment I had where I talked about the pitfalls of chat GPT. You keep bragging up and down this sub about your job and how you research but my god girl, your reading comprehension might actually be terrible
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 01:38 AM
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Ya I judge people off of their literal actions and words. Not what I imagine their intent to be
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 01:33 AM
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wait til you find out about the disparity in race and class
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 01:33 AM
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For her scenario to work she is assuming I would get back together with my husband after he cheated on me so it doesn't make a whole lot of sense. In fact its a hell of a stretch. If my husband cheated on me and the woman died and that baby landed in my lap I would take care of that baby. The set of circumstances that would have to happen for me to end up with the child of my husband's dead mistress is such a stretch it makes me wonder how you guys don't see how ridiculous it is when you go to o…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 01:32 AM
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I don't know if this is helpful or not, you're probably tougher than me so feel free to dismiss it lol but after reading through a lot of this hatred I like to go to ask reddit and search for posts like "Men, what do you love about women?" or "When did someone restore your faith in humanity?" etc. Its nice to remind myself that most people aren't like this. Lotta good stuff in there.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 01:30 AM
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this is interesting!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 01:25 AM
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Ya you telling me to FO isn't that big of a deal. I have an idea of what your baseline for decency is.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 01:05 AM
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No, you don't have to reply to me if you don't want to. Instead of walking away from a conversation you no longer want to engage in, you tell me to FO. Ya no you need totally capable of rational thinking
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 01:02 AM
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and then the complete misconstruing of what is being said. its pretty textbook.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 12:54 AM
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Haha it is fun to watch you do it in real time. im an awful person right? No need to worry about how you treat others when you think they deserve it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 12:50 AM
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you are really hopeless lol. You are responsible for how you behave regardless of your judgement of others. I wonder how often you create scenarios in your mind to convince yourself that you deserve to treat someone poorly
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 12:46 AM
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I've seen this tactic all throughout this comment section. You're desperate to involve me in your hate game. "Don't you think about how some people will deserve your cruelty and abuse??? Can't you think of the worst possible scenario where someone is out to get you and then base your opinion off of your hate and anger?!?!!?" Stuff your question. That's not how I think
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 12:44 AM
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I wouldn't throw around a judgement without knowing the people involved or the situation at hand. A lot of people have the ability to look at these things from a neutral standpoint. The people who deserve judgement in my opinion are those that intentionally act with cruelty.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 12:41 AM
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I believe you are an incredibly cruel human. You tell yourself that others are evil and manipulative and then you act worse than what you imagined the person to be. Righteous cruelty is the worst.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 12:38 AM
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Its crazy to watch the exact thing we talked about play out lol. he genuinely doesn't believe you. He thinks your kindness is a manipulation tactic.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 12:36 AM
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I read it. It doesn't say what you think it says. Its just that you are assuming rampant malice in literally everyone else. Its almost like you are trying to justify your own behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 12:29 AM
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they really might not believe you can be sincere when you talk about kindness and love because they don't understand those emotions.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 12:28 AM
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Do you think men who don't accept the paternity fraud and not take responsibility of the child born out of paternity fraud are not real men? You know he doesn't think that. You made an outrageous leap associating what he said with this hateful sentiment. It does make me wonder about you though. Do you understand that he is being genuine here?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 12:22 AM
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yeah its wild how they just say the same thing over and over again. I am glad that guys like you are out there, its very reassuring to see you arguing from this stance even though I bet its really frustrating for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 12:17 AM
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No problem!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 12:09 AM
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I read "The Righteous Mind" this summer and I was really interested in the different moralities that we see across human culture. I don't know if you find it interesting but I was looking up some articles on this type of behavior and I thought it was insightful https://psychology.uchicago.edu/news/new-study-reveals-how-brain-activity-reflects-hostile-interpretations-of-social-situations this is a Wikipedia article but its got a lot of good information and sources https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/At…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 12:06 AM
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this has been a fun comment section to read. And by fun I mean a little scary. I don't know if their behavior baffles you like it does me but these articles kind of talk about the tendency to justify cruelty towards others we see in a lot of interactions like this. https://salud-america.org/what-is-moral-disengagement/ https://psychology.uchicago.edu/news/new-study-reveals-how-brain-activity-reflects-hostile-interpretations-of-social-situations
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 12:02 AM
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This is crazy, this post is full of people like the one you are responding to. Do you think they are trolling or do you think they really think this way. Ugh it makes me wonder about the people you see every day. Like, does my neighbor think this way? Kind of chilling
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 11:53 PM
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Some of these people might literally be psychopaths. Obviously this is all online bullshit so grain of salt but my god do a lot of these people exhibit traits associated with an inability to empathize or understand the difference between intent and impact. I wonder if a lot of these guys have the capacity to understand that others aren't always acting with malicious intent.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 11:50 PM
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ya the hate in these comments are pretty mind blowing. I know of some people like this in real life and they are absolutely miserable. Seeing threats and hate behind every interaction. Some people might actually be psychopaths too. I was reading a book that talks about how psychopaths not only cannot feel empathy but they also don't believe others can. They see acts of kindness as manipulation tactics and such.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 11:41 PM
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I don't really take extremist comments like that seriously. They are clearly meant to provoke so if you allow it to provoke you thats on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 11:18 PM
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ok. I don't think this is about the objective truth anymore and your just disagreeing with me to disagree but as a parting gift here are a couple articles that I thought were interesting https://www.brookings.edu/articles/boys-left-behind-education-gender-gaps-across-the-us/ https://www.brookings.edu/articles/the-male-college-crisis-is-not-just-in-enrollment-but-completion/ https://www.ed.gov/about/ed-initiatives/raise-bar/raise-the-bar-postsecondary-and-career-pathways https://www.educationnext…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 10:32 PM
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I'm not sure why you are fighting me here. I think maybe I bruised your ego or something because I'm just not seeing what you are getting out of disagreeing with me that, since college admission rates for women are high and growing, the same incentives that encourage women to seek higher education should be applied to trades schools and men. But again, you disagree that male jobs are at risk of automation, you disagree that there needs to be more access to trades schools, you disagree that men s…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 10:16 PM
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yes, meaning a need for higher education. That's great about those trade schools but they aren't as accessible or as interconnected as colleges are. I'm arguing that we need to focus on making trade schools as accessible as colleges. But again this is kind of a moot point because you don't believe these jobs are at risk anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 10:04 PM
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yes because its just a search engine after all. Do you understand what I am saying here? I feel like maybe you didn't read my response on this carefully.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 09:56 PM
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yes, its an automated search engine. It automates a portion of the research process by rapidly searching sources and adapting that information based on what it infers from our input.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 09:42 PM
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oki doki. Then men have nothing to worry about. Thats a relief
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 09:40 PM
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sure
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 09:40 PM
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Oh dear. I assumed you were a researcher. But if you want to rely on your own observation rather than the info available we really don't have much more to talk about. Maybe you were just so excited about proving me wrong on my data point. You kinda swung quickly away from the whole "scholarly article, pointing out inaccuracy" thing. I'm kind of surprised here.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 09:35 PM
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and I notice you have a strong dislike of the transportation automation thing but again, this isn't me pulling this concept out of thin air, this is a reality that people are actively working towards.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 09:33 PM
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I would start by looking up the types of automation that are being utilized now, machine operations, automated trucks in transportation and drones for delivery, and construction site robots like brick laying robots, excavation and surveying robots, rebar tying machines etc. See this is why chat GPT is a perfect example of both the benefits and pitfalls of automation. Typing in questions to chat gpt will result in efficient data acquisition which is great but humans are still superior when it com…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 09:30 PM
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as a fellow researcher I may have a bit of advice to offer you too. The comment about how you don't think wind and solar are clean energy kind of got me thinking about how disadvantageous focusing on specific data points can be when it comes to understanding what the data means. While wind and solar are growing I don't think that they are enough to compensate for the automation we are seeing happening and expect to see happen, especially with the transportation industry which is about to see a m…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 08:24 PM
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Sigh. Ok well have a good one
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 07:49 PM
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btw thats cool about the clean energy job market growth, I didn't know that
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 07:35 PM
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No and I appreciate it, there's a lot of info out there for sure and none of its useless. The jobs that are being automated rapidly include transportation, construction, manufacturing and production which are predominantly male. Jobs in the HEAL sector (health, education, administration, and literacy) are growing notably which happen to be predominantly female. These are the overall trends. We could get bogged down with the pedantic details of it all but the reason I point this out is because I …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 07:28 PM
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oh my bad lol you got it figured out
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 07:12 PM
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Ok calm down I was wrong about a data point loI understand how research works and have a masters degree myself. I also know that female dominated jobs are the fasted growing jobs atm and a lot of jobs in male sectors are being automated. Believe it or not I'm really not a radical feminist and I personally think that boys and men in this country are facing a crisis that should be addressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 07:11 PM
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ya I was 100% wrong. Maybe instead of being a snarky asshole to you I should have checked my own data. Haha sorry about that man
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 07:08 PM
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thanks for telling me, I will definitely look into it more. Its all good info especially since I was so wrong. I was super sure of my claim but I guess that's why its good to talk to people with different perspectives.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 06:07 PM
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if you are an extremist you see other extremists everywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 06:05 PM
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why do you think these were our choices? I think its because extreme polarization drove us to choose the worst versions of our parties to represent us
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 06:05 PM
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refuse to answer is pretty rich lol. There is nothing I can say to that question that won't piss you guys off. Like really think about it. If I said, "yes I understand some things from a mans perspective" Id be called a liar. If I said, "No I don't really think any women understand things from a mans perspective" You'd be thrilled to tell me that you told me so and its because im a bigot. You want us to be villains so we will be. Its that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 06:03 PM
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Good morning. I was thinking of a study I read a while back but upon looking into it he's right, plenty of female principals. my bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 06:01 PM
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oh look at that, I'm wrong. fair point. Looks like super intendents still outnumber women but ya, plenty of female admin after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 06:00 PM
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cute but regardless of your personal experience, the data doesn't lie
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 10:36 AM
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admin is predominately male
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 10:34 AM
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and if you had data that showed that the mortality rate for patients was consistently lower when the subject had a female doctor, wouldn't you want to hire more female doctors than male? Like if we can salute men for being more kinesthetically intelligent and therefore being better suited for physical tasks, then why are we so resistant to salute women for being more effective in domains that require communication and collaboration?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 10:34 AM
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Oh really? I didn't know that but I am gonna need more info. Like when you say 'administrative leaders', what is this role specifically?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 10:28 AM
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your gonna have to try again with more relatable examples. I got nothin over here
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 10:10 AM
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its not tho because while you may not believe in the idea that someone can be a man or a woman, society and biology disagree. I didn't make that shit up about engineers and doctors. Whether nature or nurture, our sex influences the experience we have on this planet. Its like saying haha.... like.... do you think this same logic applies to fishermen and construction workers and shit? Like, you would hire people equally in jobs requiring more physical strength because its not fair to discriminate?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 10:09 AM
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Yeah. That's what we have been saying for years. Women are very effective in a lot of domains that men aren't and vice versa. Do you disagree with this? For instance if I said men make better engineers and women make better doctors, is this something you would dispute?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 10:00 AM
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Did I say that? I pointed out a fact. You got so triggered by the simple statement of a fact that you had to downvote me and post a pissy reply. Did you not say that: Additionally, because the majority of managers/senior managers are women, they inevitably promote other women, and I’ve personally been passed over in favour of women candidates who were less experienced/qualified than me. Kind of flies in the face of the whole verifiable numbers on leadership and management doesnt it?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 09:52 AM
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I want the best pilot flying my plane yes. In order for that to happen we need to agree on which pilots are the most effective though. Do you have any knowledge on this or are you just flying by the seat of your pants? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 09:47 AM
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in which case men make up 70% of principals and superintendents right?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 09:30 AM
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Dunno, guess you'd have to talk to one to find out. You have a specific experience in mind? I can tell you if I have tried to understand it lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 09:29 AM
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haha your on reddit friend so stfu about how you think others should act. But as a courtesy: Women consistently score higher on the Mayer-Salovey-Caruso emotional intelligence test (Brackett, M. A., Mayer, J. D., & Warner, R. M. 2004). A meta-analysis in 1978 compared 72 studies and concluded that women performed better in recognizing others emotions (Hall, J. A. 1978) In MRI tests show more activity in areas of the brain associated with empathy in women (Derntl, B., Finkelmeyer, A., Eickhoff, S…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 09:26 AM
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did you want me to link the studies or do your fingers work?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 09:04 AM
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you don't have to dox yourself to tell me that you work in healthcare, education, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 09:03 AM
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compared to her opponent tho* Again, and I need you to hear me here, you were limited on choosing the very best candidate for you because of how you felt about the other guy. You should know I am a bleeding heart liberal. I'm not a conservative bitching at you about this. I'm a full blown progressive democrat. It occurs to me that maybe our countrymen should have come before our party.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 08:20 AM
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right but again, what do you like about the person you voted for and why is this of such unimportance that you haven't brought it up once.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 08:10 AM
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which industry?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 07:46 AM
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But in terms of actually dating someone who genuinely dislikes me based on my gender is... I don't think that would be anything but awful for either one of us. ya the thing is if a woman genuinely dislikes you based on your gender, she isn't going to seek a relationship with you. Meanwhile men who GENUINLY dislike women will actively seek to make a woman a fundamental part of their lives. So it kind of comes down to our ability to recognize that we don't exist in the same realms. The above state…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 07:39 AM
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yep and when you focus on the faults of others its real easy to forget about the virtues you stand for
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 07:29 AM
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So only independent voters care about others?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 07:28 AM
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the fact that you are talking about trump instead of the merits of the person you voted for tells me all I need to know
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 07:18 AM
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this is fun because even you yourself fail to understand that your choice has been manipulated. You really think you voted rationally even directly after explaining to me that your choice was influenced by your dislike of the characteristics of the other party. If there was one thing I would wish for, its that the people of this country would have the ability to recognize the power of influence being held over them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 07:08 AM
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haha so you think that anger has nothing to do with your choices/motivations?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 06:58 AM
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you know me so well. haha I mean not really, I'm just a projection of your own psyche at this point but who cares
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 06:47 AM
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you allowed yourself to compromise on your choice of who will lead you because you are angry at the other guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 06:46 AM
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they won't. politics are convoluted enough that there will be a compelling reason that its the other guys fault. That the whole point to this. they pit us against each other specifically because if we all got together and talked about who the fuck we should blame for our problems they would have to contend with a consolidated mass. Luckily for them we are too busy screaming at our countrymen to make an impact. Fun stuff
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 06:45 AM
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Love you. Good night
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 06:39 AM
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this is hard to read lol if you have a point to make you're gonna have to use your own words buddy
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 06:35 AM
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so you voted out of hate for the other guy instead of belief in the quality of the character of the person you DID vote for?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 06:33 AM
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you're a fanatic
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 06:26 AM
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ohhh so you voted for Harris... Because you liked her and not because you hated trump then
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 06:25 AM
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So you voted for trump because you genuinely think he is a good choice for president? Can you walk me though that? Why is he the best choice for president?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 05:52 AM
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and there you go. This is important information. Listen. I am trying to talk to you about the ACTUAL state of things. You are so upset that instead of utilizing this information, you dismiss it out of hand. Do you know that this conversation doesn't have to be a fight? Like I am not a monster and I don't think you are either. But you are so invested in a fight against the villain you made me out to be that nothing I say penetrates your psyche. Are you getting anything out of this? I mean really.…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 05:41 AM
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except you have a rough time understanding that more men work for the criminal justice system than women. By a lot. Do you understand that? Like really. Tell me that you know more men are employed in the criminal justice system. Like do you understand this indisputable fact? Its not women my man. Its men doing this shit that you are so mad about. Its just that your balls shrivel up at the thought of yelling at a man about this.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 05:20 AM
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Women are more emotionally intelligent than men as a rule (generally speaking). Its dangerous you know? Generalizing a group. Its not acts of blatant maliciousness that cause the most damage but acts of perceived righteousness.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 05:13 AM
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have you considered that the people you disagree with are as sincere in their convictions as you are?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 04:44 AM
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ya, all societies on this green earth use birth control in one form or another. this is a common sense thing and its just used as a tool to distract.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 04:43 AM
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the election was about blind rage lol No one thought about any of this deeply
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 04:41 AM
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You are really stuck on this one person. Do you know what "can't see the forest for the trees' means? Yes I know that there are women in these positions. If I said to you, turkeys are killed at a higher rate around thanksgiving, would you point to the annual pardoning of a turkey to disprove this claim? I mean the very president himself pardons a turkey during the time of thanksgiving. Is this a compelling argument against the claim that more turkeys are killed on thanksgiving than any other tim…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 04:29 AM
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this is what you think a compelling argument is? You do understand that when people disagree with you, you are not being attacked?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 03:03 AM
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and yet, you can't disprove a single thing I have said. If im so delusional, present a compelling argument
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 02:33 AM
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It's neither a fact nor irrefutable. prove to me that women run the prison systems then We've literally just had an election where one of the candidates used to hold one of the highest offices of power in the criminal justice system in the country. Fun outlier, it won't help you in this conversation. You are squirming and its not flattering. Riddle me this Batman. If women are se well represented in these domains, how many of the 46 presidents that we've had have been women?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 01:46 AM
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I'm not blaming men but I am pointing out an irrefutable fact. Men built the prison system. Men as a majority maintain the prison system. Its one thing to be angry at a system in place because of the clear ethical violations when it comes to equality. Its another thing all together to allow your petty rage to take control of your faculties to the extent that you become nothing more than a baboon displaying displacement aggression. Due to your reactivity and inability to control your emotions, yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 01:31 AM
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ya you wanna insult me way more than you wanna have a conversation so imma go lol. I imagine spittle flying from your lips as you mouth the words as you type them. You know that anger inhibits higher order thinking right? Good luck with all that
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 12:31 AM
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well when talking about sentencing we could argue that they way women are sentenced should be more of the norm than anything. Everything about the prison system is fucked. There is no rehabilitation happening, its classist, its for profit, and human rights are violated routinely. This is how it works. If you plebs fighting each other over shit like gender, we can't focus on and collaborate on core issues
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 12:28 AM
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I'm not blaming YOU I am trying to point out that the system is like this. What bigger issue is that? ok wow. I might have been putting way too much effort into this conversation lol. Just to be clear...you see nothing wrong with the criminal justice system besides the gender thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 11:26 PM
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right but what you are suggesting is that a system developed well before women had rights and which is maintained by mostly men is somehow women's' fault. You are so worked up about feminists that you can't have a rational discussion without projecting. I am not a femcel. I am not saying anything outrageous. But you are sooooo worked up that you can't hear any point at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 11:24 PM
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Men seem to think so. You want to fight me but I am not the gender who designed and maintains the criminal justice system. I gotta ask, is your biggest issue with the criminal justice system that there is a disparity between genders when it comes to sentencing? Have you thought about the fact that this is a symptom of a bigger issue?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 10:42 PM
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One I didn't come up with. Its the way things are I didn't say it should or shouldn't be that way. The thing is you guys are bitching about a system created by men and majorly run by men so its like what do you want me to say here? I mean ultimately its unethical, but its a non issue specifically because women commit less crime, men view women as less of a threat than other men, and men are in charge of most of the arrests and sentencing. But no ya, keep yelling at women about it. Would you like…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 09:51 PM
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yes, testosterone is associated with more risk taking and amplified aggression.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 06:01 PM
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No one asked you to lean into the scientific aspect of this topic. this was you all the way dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 07:03 AM
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Maybe not, walk me through it. Tell me what your hypothesis was again?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 07:00 AM
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yeah its a shitshow all around. I mean its a damn shame we are sitting here arguing about whether men or women should be sentenced more harshly instead of focusing on the real issue, the prison system is beyond despicable and the people running it deserve to be behind bars more than the convicts.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 06:30 AM
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this guy already tried this BS. Race isn't a biological category and female is. If the rate of crime is dependent upon the environment this should be taken into consideration when it comes to sentencing. Women commit less crime throughout environment, eras, and culture. The two are not equivalent so please come up with a different argument. This one is lazy
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 06:22 AM
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I don't know. Your logic is sound but to be honest the reason behind the more lenient sentencing probably has less to do with logic and more to do with the fact that society doesn't view women as threats and people act with their emotions, not their brains. Take a majority of male judges and have them try women. You will find than men are more lenient to women. Now add to that the lack of consequence to this norm. Even if women deserve harsher sentences, who is really going to change the system …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 06:18 AM
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You don't understand science. Scientists don't try and prove/disprove phenomena. They observe and make a hypothesis The hypothesis is what is proven/disproven in the scientific process. what's your hypothesis?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 06:08 AM
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let me make up a fun little story to hep you understand. Once upon a time god made 100 women off all different races and 100 black men. He then had them disperse them across 10 cities. In all 10 cities, women overwhelmingly committed less crime than average. In 3 of the 10 cities black men committed more crime than average. in 4 of the cities they committed the same amount of crime as average and in 3 cities they committed less crime than average. Using your best brain cells, would you say that …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 06:04 AM
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race is not a biological category. testosterone is associated with higher risk taking and amplified aggression. Its really not that hard to understand
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 05:55 AM
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the double standard doesn't make sense. The reason women are sentenced less is due to the fact that they are not as much of a threat as men are. The have a biologically tendency to commit less crime and therefore their offenses aren't weighted as heavily and for good reason. Women aren't committing the majority of crimes and the leniency in sentencing reflects a collective understanding that women aren't as likely to harm just for harms sake
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 05:50 AM
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you want to say black people. But black people aren't a minority in this world any more than women are. Your point is garbage and you are race baiting to squirm out of facing your failure to defend your point. No one asked you to bring race into this. You did this yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 05:43 AM
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its a false equivilency and you're mad because your gotcha didn't work. Race is not a biological category. Female is. Be more specific. Which minority are you wanting me to compare to women here
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 05:40 AM
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I'm not 100% sure what you are asking because your response is unorganized. Minorities can mean a lot of things. Which group of minorities do you believe are a true equivalent to women in this sense? Again, women have ALWAYS committed less crime. No matter where they are this is the case. Now you want me to swap out women for ... a minority.. Which minority do you think best fits here? Which minority are you wanting me to compare against the 4 billion women on the planet?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 05:35 AM
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oh you can be multiple things at once alright. none of those things are something you should be bragging about though
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 05:21 AM
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Although still wish men had a say in opting out. you missed the point here. If men don't want kids there is a real simple solution. If they bang someone and it results in a kid they should be just as responsible for raising that kid regardless of whether they wanted a kid or not. Choose better is a term thrown around a lot on this site.. Being vague here, are you OK with longer sentences for minorities then? Tell me you don't understand the nuances of this conversation harder please. Women acros…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 05:19 AM
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I don't want you talking shit at all. Shit talkers don't do anything for us. I want thinkers, I want problem solvers, I want people who can find solutions regardless of the quality of character of the opposing individuals. If you spend all your time focusing on criticizing others you spend zero time strengthening yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 05:03 AM
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You know what I think. I think they should abolish child support and make 50/50 custody mandatory. I also think people should be sentenced based on their likelihood of reoffending. Its not that outrageous considering the legal system
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 05:00 AM
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I want to know how big of a threat you really think this is to you. Your belief on the number of women perpetrating what you are saying will totally influence how you are viewed. If you think its like 5% of women you come off as paranoid. If you think its 75% you can be seen as delusional. the reason I bring it up is because you really buckled down on the whole "i didn't say most" thing. So if not most how much?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 04:48 AM
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The government has to pay for it because its a hell of an expense especially considering that a woman with a kid has a markedly reduced access to capital than someone without one. Men aren't bad. The majority of men are good. I just think its rich to see guys bitching about sentencing laws when you know damn well than men commit more crimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 04:45 AM
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can you give me a percentage then? If its not MOST women, how many women is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 04:42 AM
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(worried about the women using government programs) To raise the children who will become citizens of the country. Why do you people think that raising a kid is worth less that dirt. Stop devaluing women's contributions. "In the United States, men are most adversely affected by sentencing disparity, being twice as likely to be sentenced to prison after conviction than women and receiving on average 63% longer prison sentences, for the same offenses.[2]" -Wikipedia and even though they are senten…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 04:41 AM
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no but the thing is you're wrong. Its not MOST women. its just the opinion of the women you focus on the most.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 04:32 AM
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I really don’t think a girl will be able to like me unless her goals are also in the artistic fields because we’d both be “not successful yet” Ya, this makes sense when you break it down. you want someone who knows about the thing you are most passionate about. My brother could do absolutely nothing and i’d still want to make sure he eats everyday… but here it is right? I feel the same way about my sister. Just her presence is valuable. That's unconditional love and its kind of scary when you th…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 04:19 AM
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nope, no one wants your garbage. you get what you earn
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 03:46 AM
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Hiding from uncomfortable truths by painting yourself as the victim rather than facing the truth. Typical liberal behavior
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 03:45 AM
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you get to be you
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 03:44 AM
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Then you get what you get. You do you though don't worry, I will
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 03:39 AM
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I already told you. Being mad at women for being mad is still just one party being mad at the other. You wanna hang with the bitches that yell at you that's fine but you know you don't have to right? Those of us who aren't yelling didn't disappear just because we aren't making noise. These people will always exists. Those who blame others for their problems. They might be women and they might be men but at the end of the day if you choose to play with them you get what you get. I would recommend…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 03:37 AM
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“my girl owns her own business” and “she’s super smart, she’s a nurse or scientist” are superficial to me, I don’t really care about those thing Its not about whether or not YOU care about her accomplishments but if SHE cares. Like really think about it here. Imagine the aspects that make you who you are, your goals, ambition, accomplishments, etc. these are fundamental parts of your personality. If a woman came along and dismissed all the things that make you you and says "I really don't care a…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 03:20 AM
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Firstly, I am not trying to change your mind. I am trying to add to it. A debate's purpose shouldn't be about a win or a loss but instead the sharing of perspectives and information. I am perfectly happy walking away in disagreement here because this is all useful information. Secondly, to you point on falsifiability, what exactly would you like to disprove? If we want to hit up the scientific aspect of this we cannot ignore the fact that love, bonding, community, seeking connections, etc. is li…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 01:59 AM
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You are still thinking too simply. Its not about understanding their emotions, its about being able to understand your own in relation to theirs and then in relation to the bigger picture. When you say 'emotional people' are we talking about people who cry easy? punch the wall? When I talk about emotional thinking what I mean is being able to recognize those emotions and analyze them fully. If a person is fully aware of their emotional range they are less likely to allow those emotions to contro…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 12:07 AM
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You didn't say all women, I shouldn't put words in your mouth. Also its the same for the man. If he wants a pretty vapid thing for a wife he won't get a deep connection either. if it's possible to temper down the gender wars by making things less superficial, and be able to appreciate each other the way you described. The gender war is tough because of how much of our lives take place online. People are terrible online because there's no place for authenticity. Authenticity requires accountabili…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 07:37 PM
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Right except if you only appreciate shallow characteristics in others you don't really deserve to be loved deeply and authentically. Quite a few men on this sub are fundamentally confused when it comes to relationships. You focus on what you think you are owed without recognizing deeper value in others. The height thing for one. you know that the reason you think all women are saying this is because you only pay attention to the women that say this. Girls that are not as superficial aren't going…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 07:09 PM
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I think this is because of polarization. Fearful, angry, paranoid people are easy to control. If you get people to spend all their time watching and judging their neighbors they won't have the chance to collaborate with them. You are mad at women for being mad at men but aren't you doing exactly what you are judging them for? You want women to stop scapegoating men but here you are making a post about how all women are the ones to blame. Put on a dress and change the gendered pronouns and you ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 06:57 PM
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Meaning if you think small you miss the big picture. The inability to understand the point behind appreciating another person outside of what they can do for you spells your fate whether its unfalsifiable or not. You cannot develop the kind of traits needed for bonding if you can't recognize those traits in others. There is a big tendency to lean heavily into logical thinking while turning one's nose up at emotional thinking by the men in this sub. Its funny though because they've done studies o…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 06:39 PM
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great. school funding overwhelmingly benefits girls. Boys are being left behind in droves. She said school funding? If its anything like the funding we see for the programs we already have in place we can be sure that boys will not benefit. Where did she specifically address the challenges that boys and men are facing in this country?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 07:24 AM
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well said.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 06:49 AM
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and yet here you are lol. If im not worth your time prove it
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 06:38 AM
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I've seen you on here before. I take breaks from reddit periodically but you're always here. I don't really care what you do, your a cartoon version of yourself at this point anyway. Also there's no need to guess my 'gen'. I'm 31.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 06:20 AM
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Emotionally reactive is different from being emotionally vulnerable. Throwing a tantrum isn't the same as being your authentic self. Clearly you're looking to recruit more target practice. I personally wouldn't allow someone like you into my life but if you want to be a victim so bad I promise you will find the villain you're seeking
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 06:05 AM
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So she could be anyone. Well then so too for you. You want a hot, amenable girl and she wants a successful, moderately handsome man. If you are shallow your life will feel lukewarm. That's not something you can lay at the feet of women. Its just the way the cookie crumbles for the less passionate among us
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 06:01 AM
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Because those who don't see the value in others sound like right assholes when they whine about others not seeing the value in them What does a woman's love matter to you anyway? If she is only good for her looks who cares about how she feels about you
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 05:48 AM
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Thanks for your opinion
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 05:47 AM
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We are chased. This is true. I am fully aware of the weight women carry in mens' minds. But again, its not about BEING loved. Its about possessing the ability to love. If you can't love you can't be loved.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 05:40 AM
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what do you love about women? If you could describe a women worthy of your love, what aspects would she possess?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 05:38 AM
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thank you for saying so and I agree. Being able to love. I don't think people talk about that part enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 05:37 AM
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I love that you love love!! I don't know if they will ever get it though. Being loved < Being able to love
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 04:58 AM
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I think the issue is that people think being loved is the prize but that's not true. Its being able to love.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 04:54 AM
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That love wasn't unconditional. You are just confused as to the condition. The lover pays the price. Always. You don't get TO love unless you accept the cost.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 04:49 AM
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No, its the men that feign toughness that should worry about being eaten. Anyone who has the balls to face hardship and heartbreak isn't a bitch. So many people think being emotional is a weakness, its not. The weakness lies in being too much of a coward to risk your pride, comfort, and ego for the good stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 04:40 AM
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I don't get it. Why lament over something you don't think exists? At the end of the day if you don't think love is real, you aren't going to find it. You know what love is? Being vulnerable. Opening yourself up. Appreciating others instead of demanding appreciation. Being patient, kind, and observant. The flowers outside offer me nothing, and yet I think they are beautiful and stop to appreciate them. They did nothing for me, I had to appreciate their beauty before I could gain the happiness the…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 04:29 AM
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you deserve what you put out. People who work deserve to be compensated for that work. You know the problem with the dating market? Everyone thinks they deserve what they are unwilling to give. No one looks at themselves. The one question everyone should be asking themselves is this "would you date you?"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 04:21 AM
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If you want a productive society the individuals in that society need to be free, independent, and empowered/educated. Your argument is intentionally cryptic. Rights are not eroded because of the right to vote. This is such a weird argument and one you can't even fully articulate. Gun laws* the right to own a gun have not been restricted much at all. The freedom of speech has not been restricted. Nothing you are saying makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 04:18 AM
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so in your opinion, there is no benefit to immigration?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 04:00 AM
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Lets do this. What do you think women contribute to our society?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 03:58 AM
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so your argument is that democracy itself is the problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 03:55 AM
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short attention span much?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 03:49 AM
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Ergo, most men and women behave cowardly in dating and relationships. so they deserve each other. Want better? Be better
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 03:42 AM
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how? you don't understand enough about the economy, politics, or policies for me to make an impact on you. You literally think there is no benefit to immigration and that investment in social infrastructure is useless. This is a radical stance. How do you think I can change your mind when its so narrow?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 03:41 AM
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since you are talking to me here, can you tell me, directly, how they would be modified to fit into modernity?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 03:39 AM
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because rather than answering me directly you keep saying "I already answered that elsewhere" You can't respond directly to my questions.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 03:38 AM
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Can you name a right that hasn't been eroded and degraded by the right to vote? I am not sure what you mean, can you clarify or give an example?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 03:37 AM
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yep... and these issues aren't insignificant. Men ARE being left behind in a lot of these areas. Can you imagine if Kamila had proposed something as simple as education initiatives that are aimed at boys? I mean really just one thing would make all the difference. But we just sit here and scream at each other instead of listening.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 03:31 AM
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You talk a lot for someone who has never educated themselves about the very subject you have a strong opinion on. Tell me, what was the last book you read?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 03:24 AM
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you really don't understand do you? You have no concept of the interconnectivity of women's rights and progress in technological, medical, and intellectual realms. Have you considered that you aren't as smart as you think you are?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 03:23 AM
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Which 'privileges' would you like to see abolished?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 03:21 AM
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ahhh haha I see now that I am putting way too much effort into this conversation
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 03:20 AM
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But women enjoy the chaos, without understanding it, simply for the pursuit of extracting joy. Go ask a woman? Dude Im a woman. If you wanna stew in hate go for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 03:20 AM
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You have no part in it, you have simply been allowed to use it in return for access to the hole between your legs. And you have nothing to offer at all. What's the last thing you invented? Fought any wars lately? Pass any laws? You don't get to brag about shit you haven't done either cupcake
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 02:49 AM
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You want to live in a time like that? That's rich coming from someone posting this opinion on a medium that didn't exist back then.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 02:47 AM
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You imply that women's rights should be restricted or at the very least that women themselves should be governed more than men. Do you really think we would get the most out of the people in our society if they were not granted autonomy fully?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 02:46 AM
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ya you wanna live in a world like that? You wanna live without the internet? The medical advancements? Technology that makes our lives easier? You people shit on progress while reveling in it. Its gross how unaware you are
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 02:38 AM
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here's the issue. You think you are smarter than the rest of humanity. That's more than 8 billion people. The reason no one is using outdated societal models successfully is because those models don't work in a technologically advanced, globalized world. The fact that you cannot name EVEN ONE example of a society that does this successfully shows how little thought you have put into this fantasy. You want to go back to the 1960s? Are you really naiive enough to think that you can isolate one sin…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 02:36 AM
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I will go on even though I suspect you wont. Immigration lowers wages. Immigration is complex and can either be a boon or a detriment depending on the manner and environment it occurs in. For instance, do you agree with this for jobs in which we seek professionals from over seas like doctors and IT specialists or are you talking about labor jobs that are increasingly harder to fill? Focusing on social issues over profit will increase prices and deliver worse products/services. Investment in soci…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 02:27 AM
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So name a country where these ideals are enforced and where you would also like to live. Its very simple. If you really think this, surely you can find an example where this works
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 02:21 AM
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lol! literally everything I said about you is true
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 02:11 AM
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listen, I agree with you on the political division. The reason for the division is literally due to lack of introspection
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 02:08 AM
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the patriarchy you propose
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 02:05 AM
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So how do you feel about these two phrases? Men make better engineers Women make better doctors
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 02:04 AM
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all of this sounds like a you issue. look, I get that someone treated you like shit and you didn't deserve that. But now you are being hateful to women who don't deserve your hate. Are you really any better than the people you are judging?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 02:02 AM
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no, you didn't. You are not answering anything directly. Here, we will keep it simple. NAME a country that you think we should emulate that exists today.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 02:00 AM
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incorrect.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 01:50 AM
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its hard to to take someone seriously when they preach about accountability while pointing their finger at someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 01:47 AM
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fucking amen.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 01:46 AM
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And you can't expand on that post. Why have a conversation if all you want is affirmation?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 01:40 AM
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I am pointing to a tenet of modern civilized society. One you don't seem to have the capacity to understand. Human rights are worth defending. If you don't think so you don't have to sit and waste your time in countries that do
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 01:39 AM
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You repeat yourself because you aren't processing other peoples words. I know guys like you. You repeat your same point over and over regardless of the new information that is presented to you. You don't evolve or change. you might as well have a string to pull where you say the same catchphrases. guys like you are so incredibly boring just due to your natural lack of curiosity. You aren't interested in new perspectives. You cannot use new information in a way that expands your perspective. You …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 01:37 AM
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so give me an example.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 01:34 AM
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You got real close here. Its true that both men and women have different strengths but the mark you missed was that both of those strengths and the contributions that come with them are essential. What you also seem to struggle with this the fact that society benefits from independent, educated, and empowered individuals regardless of their gender or sex. You don't think. You have a pinhole view of the world and act like you are informed enough to shout rather than listen. This is a childish arg…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 01:33 AM
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Thanks for the short, bratty response, what I am seeing here is that you consistently crumple when asked to meaningfully expand on what is supposed to be YOUR opinion
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 01:24 AM
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Thats fun that you have access to the internet. Can you articulate your own point here? Like using your own words?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 01:21 AM
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Do you feel the same way about people in wheelchairs? What about men who are disabled? Would they be relegated to the same cast as women because of their lack of physical strength and ability? How about you? Can you physically defend yourself from other men if they come to take your rights away?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 01:20 AM
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what he is failing to see is that he benefits from living in a society that upholds the rights of its citizens regardless of their sex. These guys get on here and say this shit but I don't see them talking about how we should be more like Afghanistan or Yemen
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 01:15 AM
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now do one where you aren't using chat gpt
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 01:13 AM
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There are plenty of places on this green earth where people hold the same values as you do. Can you point to an example of a country/culture that you would like to see us emulate?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 01:11 AM
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I get so tired of this grandstanding BS from you guys. While some of your data is correct, you aren't qualified to interpret it. Not that there is anything anyone could actually teach you. No information can penetrate a self-righteous mind unless it flatters your own stance. If progress is so awful, move to a country where women don't have the right to vote. Since the patriarchy is so great, it should be an easy thing to do. Which country do you think would be the best to move to?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 01:10 AM
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Sorry? Why is it a character flaw when women cheat but when men cheat its because they are valuable. This whole post is about how shitty it is for people to cheat. Market value or not, why are mens' ACTUAL values so drastically different than womens' in this sense?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 12:58 AM
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why do you think there is a generational difference?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 12:56 AM
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But this is your opinion, what I'm asking is whether or not you have a solid reason based off of information. Can you muster a compelling argument for this or are you just ranting?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 12:55 AM
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why do you think that?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 10:17 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 10:16 PM
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How do men seek my attention and validation? Are you kidding me? Your flair says woman so I'm a little surprised here. Do men not try to get your attention? How are they seeking your attention and validation and are you implying that they themselves do not respect women? Or are you speaking in generalities? The fit throwing is attention seeking behavior and the validation is sought by intentionally provoking the people he resents. It goes like this, the guy that said the thing about women gossip…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 10:11 PM
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Oh wow. Ya I didn't know that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 10:02 PM
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you know what's hilarious? Men who hate women obsessing over women. You guys crack me up
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 06:19 AM
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You aren't an American. You didn't give an opinion. You aren't anyone. Right? Is this what you want? To get online just to be a whiny ghost? If you're nothing, feel nothing, think nothing, and cannot be held accountable for anything, why are you typing?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 06:15 AM
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I don't feel attacked. I feel irritated. disgusted even. God I hate a coward. You know what I'm saying but your squirming around it. You want to have an opinion but when someone calls you out on YOUR opinion you shoot your index finger to the next person like a schoolyard bully. This country is riddled with people like you
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 06:07 AM
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how are you responsible for your actions and words? Are you kidding me?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 06:02 AM
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I never said that all men are to blame. But due to your obsession with convincing yourself that women are the enemy you wouldn't know that. You are responsible for your behavior regardless of the actions of those around you
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 05:59 AM
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its not MY fault! haha If you base your character off of the people you respect the least you are the least respectable person
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 05:56 AM
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I don't care about the fucking cesspools you choose to engage with. If you don't take accountability you aren't any better than the people you judge.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 05:43 AM
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ohhh so the 4b movement happened because of Trump winning the 2024 election?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 05:40 AM
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ohhh its because we all got a pdf. 4b and 4n are references to a grid. I will link it below
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 05:37 AM
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Women* Only a fool believes that he can know a person without knowing a person. If you want to parade around like a naive fool by saying things like "why do women....." then please spare me your complaints when you hear someone generalize men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 05:34 AM
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trump won by less votes than he lost to in the last election so stop with that shit. 72.2 mil in 2024 and 74 mil in 2020. This country has been fueled by hate for the last 20 years and while hate burns hot it doesn't burn long. Stop looking to your neighbors for the source of your misfortune and analyze your own BS
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 05:27 AM
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First of all, Trump got 72.2 mil in 2024 and 74 mil in 2020. Second of all, why are you still asking me to call other people out? Why are you liberals so obsessed with canceling others rather than looking at yourself and asking if you are as critical of your own actions as you are of your neighbors'?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 05:25 AM
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Its rich to hear anyone on this sub say the word accountability like they know what it means
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 05:21 AM
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you deserve this place
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 05:14 AM
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go get em
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 05:09 AM
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Well if its working then why question it?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 05:08 AM
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thats the problem isn't it? Just like you all these liberals are so obsesses about 'calling out' others that no one has the god damn balls to call themselves out.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 05:07 AM
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haha its not me its you, sorry your reading comprehension wasn't up to snuff. Do me a favor and take that feminist tag off your name. You don't represent us
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 04:48 AM
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thinking Biden was the best choice? And who did the republicans choose to represent them? The utter and complete lack of self reflection is what spelled the end of this country. They made me act like this....its not MY fault.... That is literally the rally cry for both fucking parties.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 04:47 AM
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Yeah yeah, the other guys are monsters!!! they want to get us!!! We need to get them before they get us..... Reactive Fearful Paranoid. The most righteous among us are the ones most likely to commit the worst atrocities. This country deserves itself
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 04:39 AM
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right..... not hate for the left? Don't be naive. They voted for trump to piss off the dems. this country just got the president it deserves
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 04:34 AM
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women are disposable to men like you so who cares if we quit being wives?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 04:29 AM
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what are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 04:28 AM
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capitalism isn't for humans
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 04:23 AM
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ok. so you think that republicans are going to do like a handmaids tale thing. And republicans think that they are going to force young men to wear dresses. it all comes down to this, when you assume the other guys are monsters you allow yourself to be a monster. this whole country is full of people who base their identity off of hate If that's your basis, its just a matter of who got to you first. The amygdala is running the show
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 04:10 AM
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we are already drowning in the tears of red pilled men, haha you don't need mine
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 02:53 AM
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so?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 02:53 AM
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He said on reddit lmao. If its a non-issue you look like a real ass obsessing over it. I always think its funny that the men who respect women least are the most desperate for our attention and validation
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 02:52 AM
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what about at midday?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 02:48 AM
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Yes if I go looking for these people I will find them. That's how the internet works. But ultimately your life has not changed due to this phenomenon. Let me give you an example. Lets say I think alien abductions are a really big deal....... Prove me wrong lol
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 02:44 AM
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If there is no single change this conversation isn't worth your time.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 02:42 AM
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Free childcare, paid maternity leave, free health care for pregnant women. Its weird to me that you can't understand what I'm saying. When you have a kid you pay more in insurance, have to take more time off, are ostracized in public places, pay the equivalent of your mortgage in childcare, etc. How is having a kid something other than a penalty?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 02:41 AM
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I've never ever heard of this outside of the PPD on reddit. Like never
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 02:37 AM
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So where are you hearing this from western feminists?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 02:34 AM
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Trolling IS fun. We can all agree on that
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 02:33 AM
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do you?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 02:32 AM
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Oh good, so your girlfriend will be gtg. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 02:31 AM
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good job with the fear mongering.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 02:30 AM
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You don't know any western feminists. You get al of your information about western feminists from men who say that these women exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 02:29 AM
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ohhh.... she goes to a different school?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 02:26 AM
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as a political message* lol its so funny that you think this is an organized phenomenon
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 02:22 AM
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If nothing has changed you have nothing to complain about
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 02:21 AM
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If a society penalizes people for having kids they will stop having kids. Its weird to me that people are shocked by the decline in birthrates.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 02:19 AM
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ya how silly that people think republicans want something republicans came up with and are pushing for.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 02:17 AM
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Can I ask why tho? Obviously its something that gets under your skin regardless of whether or not its a legitimate thing. What about this makes you wanna talk about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 01:53 AM
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nah, its something you wanna talk about and that's a perfectly fine reason
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 01:45 AM
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Boy, it must be frustrating. Women suck and owe everything to men. But then women refuse to date the very men they owe everything too!!! What the hell????? If only women knew their worth, they would see why its so disrespectful for them to reject men like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 01:31 AM
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and this opinion triggers disgust in a lot of people. You are so concerned with what the woman can or can't do, but regardless of what SHE can do, YOU are the one who determines the actions you take. You want to be the kind of person that fucks women and then abandons them. Take some accountability for your values. No one is forcing you to imagine how you would dump the chick you knocked up. This is something you came up with. This is who you want to be
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 04:25 AM
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So dO WomEn! If you don't respect women for abandoning their responsibilities then what does it say about you that you want to replicate that behavior? It seems to me that you judge others based on how you view yourself. Of course you think all women are terrible, you wouldn't know what decent characteristics look like because you can't produce them yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 04:12 AM
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'Men shouldn't be responsible for their offspring" This is a common talking point among men who have zero risk of impregnating women but let me break down for you why this ideology triggers disgust. cowardice. you want to fuck but then you don't want to be held accountable for your impact on the person you sought out and fucked. Its so incredibly cowardly to abandon a child borne of your imaginations. We can't trust people like you. You look for a reason to call yourself the victim in scenarios …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 03:52 AM
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she who? you cant determine your ethical compass on made up scenarios in your head. how often do you judge yourself as harshly as women you don't know? I mean really. How many of your actions do you forgive on a day to day basis because you 'deserve' to act a certain way, and how many times do you jump at the chance to judge a woman who you don't know in a situation that you don't know the context?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 03:33 AM
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I would hope to god that if I gave my life to save someone else's they wouldn't go on to waste it by being mopey and sentimental.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 12:38 AM
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how not?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 12:04 AM
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So? Who cares what stupid people do? Stupid men deserve stupid women and stupid women deserve stupid men. Who TF cares what dating tactics they use
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 11:41 PM
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Is there anything that correlates with the weight gain? Like is she depressed, stressed, unable to stay active, etc. ? Rather than seeing this as a change in her life that you just have to deal with, ask yourself if there is a deeper cause.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 04:09 AM
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What if she comes out of that depression (laziness) and loses weight? A couple years ago I began drinking heavily along with my friends. I gained upwards of like 20 lbs. recently I have changed my lifestyle after kind of realizing I don’t want to be a ‘drinker’ and the weight fell off. Im back to my original weight but my partner stayed through it all. He had to deal with chunky me but since he stuck it out he gets to have fit me again too
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 04:05 AM
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You can believe that if you want but at least I both looked at and discussed the source you provided. You didn’t do that for mine There’s nothing I can do about your willingness to participate with good faith so ya, I’m walking away from this conversation
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 09:35 PM
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I understand you want to get bogged down on this Reddit post and the stat website but the overall data supports what I believe including the website that the Reddit post you linked provided a source for It’s ok. I gained a lot from this conversation and feel like i understand my position more thoroughly. It’s thanks to you challenging my ideas that I was able to do this so just like I said Thanks for the debate but we agree to disagree
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 09:24 PM
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Thanks for the debate but we are going to have to agree to disagree. The issue is not being able to have a family without being economically and socially penalized. It’s not men and women and their efforts in the workforce or home, it’s the fact that we are operating under a system that actively discriminates against family. We have to value all humans’ rights to both gainful employment and family investment.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 09:03 PM
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I did. I followed the link and compared house work and working hours individually and it didn’t back up what you said. Women are being judged by their ability to contribute to both realms while men are being judged on their ability to contribute in one realm Capitalism relies on someone being able to invest themselves fully in the workforce. This requires an equal contribution to the home to be supplied by unpaid domestic labor. This has traditionally fallen on women but now that we are contribu…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 08:24 PM
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For me to explain it requires you to understand the issues women face in the workplace but if you’re unwilling to acknowledge that side, we can’t really address issues with the initiatives that are incorrectly addressing that very issue you don’t believe exists You see how this is hard? It’s ok to understand that DEI or equality initiatives failed. It’s impossible if you don’t understand why they were introduced in the first place. Per your own view, I can not only understand WHY this seems so u…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 08:15 PM
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oops another dead end. That's ok though I enjoyed our conversation. best regards
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 07:55 PM
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Men are not being disproportionately affected by this. Rape cases are under reported compared to other crimes False rape accusations are reported equally compared to other crimes The imbalance is not where you think it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 07:54 PM
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No, I'm sorry but there is information on this that doesn't rely on reddit surveys. There are standards in place for these kid of studies for a reason. Its as simple as input vs output. Women's output being measures as 'less' is due to their true output not being measured effectively. https://online.ucpress.edu/collabra/article/9/1/87546/197377/Similar-but-Different-Gender-Differences-in https://scholar.harvard.edu/files/goldin/files/goldin_equalpay-cap.pdf https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2017/06…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 07:46 PM
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Thank you! Ok so this is exactly what I mean. Pushing women into the workplace for the sake of pushing women in pushes men out. DEI fails because we are trying to force equality without accounting for the inequalities in the system. Women not being compensated equally is the issue. For instance, I bet you cannot find a news story of this happening in a female dominated field which on the surface can seem completely based on sexism BUT a deeper reason for this is that men don't want female jobs. …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 07:39 PM
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No, there is no evidence for this being the case. This is a distortion of reality for the purpose of riling people up. We can't fight made up villains, its a waste of our energy
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 07:28 PM
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Is this a news story or a scenario you concocted? Your perception of things is not objective reality. It may seem like that's what happened from your view point but if we want to look at the problem, we need a real scenario to examine
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 07:25 PM
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When paid and unpaid work are added up men do slightly more in total (men do more paid and women do more unpaid) so men are doing more than their fair share. Link it
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 07:24 PM
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Nice! That rarely happens lol Capitalism relies on an unpaid domestic labor force and therefore is inherently unequal. We should find a way to reduce or even eliminate the stark separation of family and work
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 07:24 PM
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This is a distraction and not worth hyper focusing on. Fixing the systemic issues that address false accusations should start with criminalizing police investigations that don't follow ethical practices. Overall, authorities on the legal system are aware that rape is under reported and false accusations are no higher in this area than they are for burglary and theft. This isn't a specific issue that needs to be addressed outside of addressing larger issues of the legal system
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 07:22 PM
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Do men contribute equally to care work yes or no? If both men and women are participating in the workforce but then there is an imbalance when it comes to home life, that means women work MORE. We don't account for this in a workplace by assuming that women, like men, have domestic labor at home when they don't
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 07:11 PM
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The worst thing to happen to women is expecting them to be men in order to participate in society. You want women to be women then don't punish them when they have kids. Your career shouldn't end when you start a family. That's the opposite of what's good for society
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 07:09 PM
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Because men's issues and women's issues are OUR issues. If men cannot contribute fully then we all suffer. If women cannot contribute fully then we all suffer.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 07:00 PM
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I know you don't understand and that's ok. Its not that men are more qualified, its that the system only recognizes qualifications in men
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 06:59 PM
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Yes and here's where we aren't accounting for the system. Women who work in STEM don't earn the same as their counter parts. We have been given the illusion of inclusion but we have failed to account for the fact that the system itself is designed in a way that disadvantages women. They get less promotions, their work gets less funding, their efforts get less credit. This is a fact. Women do not have access to equality in systems designed solely for men. This is where our failing to account for …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 06:54 PM
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The inequalities that stemmed from them being barred in the first place. These initiatives make sense until they start to work. That's the crazy part. That's why DEI initiatives are failing. When we modify a system to allow for the inclusion of women, that system failing in the presence of women means we did not address this properly. We didn't think about the fact that the design of that system didn't include room for women so men being pushed out is inevitable when we push women in. We cannot …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 06:44 PM
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Its a full blown study with research questions and a methodology. You just don't think the info it gives us is useful and yes, women being killed at work as the leading cause of workplace death is indicative of underlying issues. This is something we should be looking critically at
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 06:38 PM
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lol its about balance. We can't balance with each other when we undervalue the weight we carry. For instance, STEM shouldn't be 50/50 considering all we know about strengths and weaknesses related to mathematical and spatial thinking but it SHOULD be like 80/20 or 70/30 Equally in the HEAL related industries, men should account for 20-30% The problem is we are not viewing these sections as equal even though they are both equally essential. Therefore there is a fundamental imbalance to access tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 06:27 PM
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No it says women take longer to recover because of the cultural expectations of care work. Men get to recover fully from surgery is because they aren't expected to maintain care work during that recovery process. This is part of the problem with assuming women's efforts in the home are worthless, assuming this means we are not compensating for them appropriately which has real effects in the bigger economic and societal picture So it shows 26% of 544 murders were IPV. Oh I might have misread it …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 06:21 PM
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This is as far as this conversation can be carried with you I see so agree to disagree here Thank you for your input, genuinely you challenged my original reply and it made me think more deeply about my own view of the issue. Cheers
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 05:56 PM
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First, No, male teachers aren't as bias against boys, the research is mixed on that so its not definitive. You are literally saying what I'm saying but you want to disagree so bad that you can't see it. This is what I mean about angry people not being productive to this kind of conversation. Dismantling is exactly what I am proposing but this conversation is useless when you fail to realize that the system we are dismantling was born under a male centric society. In order to understand why its f…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 05:40 PM
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And what was that?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 05:34 PM
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haha you are not the kind of person I want having this conversation. All you want to do is fight but the truth is only those who can see both sides deserve a seat at the table when it comes to this conversation. We can help boys without hurting women. Its that simple but I fear people like you are too angry to actually see a solution. For instance, I have said repeatedly that we need more male teachers. This is a huge step we could take in order to balance out inequalities in the education syste…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 05:28 PM
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Men being behind in education is exposing systemic issues within our education system. Some would love to lay this at the feet of women but the truth is men are not applying to go to college at the same rates as women so the issue isn't that they are being barred but that they do not want to participate in the first place. We are trying to patch up an already broken system when we need to redesign it with equity in mind. How do we provide equal access to education? 60% of the homeless population…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 05:11 PM
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It’s about the attempt to balance inequality. I think people don’t understand that equality doesn’t mean putting everyone in the same situation, it means making the environment as equitable as possible to ensure everyone has the opportunity to contribute and participate fully in society Think wheelchair ramps. Why would we spend extra on people in wheelchairs? This isn’t fair to people not in wheelchairs. But that’s not the point, yes the person in the wheelchair has equal rights but are they ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 04:31 PM
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Oh true, some people are perfectly fine being part of the problem Good point
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 04:24 PM
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The time to have this conversation was before we separated work and home. Having a kid shouldn’t reduce your economic and social standing. We have to figure out how to make the environment suitable for offspring while maintaining the benefit we get from allowing both genders to contribute to society.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 04:21 PM
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it really does get old lol This draft conversation always makes me think about WW2 and the Soviet's regiment of all female snipers.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 04:02 AM
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Oh i actually read three and recommend them all! Invisible Women Behave, the biology of humans at our best and worst (this is the one that talks about biology and political ideology) And Of Boys and Men These are all on audible and Spotify too, I really enjoyed them!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 03:27 AM
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100% Information is only useful to those who can hear it. a book I read this summer talks about what you said too, it’s easier for them to believe that the world is simple because that means they don’t have to challenge themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 03:10 AM
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so this is just based on your experience? Why would you frame it as a reliable wide spread phenomenon?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 02:51 AM
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Can I ask what you think of this study? I had it out with a few guys on it and I'm still bitter because they legitimately did not know how to read this but I think there is some really interesting info in here https://gwern.net/doc/genetics/selection/2014-yao.pdf
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 02:43 AM
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Can you give me an example of this?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 02:27 AM
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The donkey told the tiger, “The grass is blue.” The tiger replied, “No, the grass is green.” The discussion became heated, and the two decided to submit the issue to arbitration, so they approached the lion. As they approached the lion on his throne, the donkey started screaming: ′′Your Highness, isn’t it true that the grass is blue?” The lion replied: “If you believe it is true, the grass is blue.” The donkey rushed forward and continued: ′′The tiger disagrees with me, contradicts me and annoys…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 02:21 AM
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source
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 02:09 AM
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Its crazy how many have no concept that what works best for one doesn't work best for everyone. The whole point of an debate is to incorporate someone else's view into your own understanding of the issue. If we don't listen we never more forward.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 02:06 AM
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Nope. It's impossible. Women more consume and less produce. They're parasitizing on society and men are aware of it. We just let women do that, because women are our greatest weakness. Haha, thanks for the take. Its good to be reminded that people like you exists. You have the day you deserve now, ok buddy?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 01:52 AM
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yes, you are aware of what you think are women's issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 01:05 AM
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I don't think so simplistically. Men tend to out perform women on spatial and mathematical thinking, making them better engineers, mechanics, more suited to work in construction etc. Women tend to outperform men on linguistic and social emotional skills making them better doctors, lawyers, teachers, etc. There is considerable overlap in both of these areas, 20% of women will excel in spatial and mathematical thinking and 20% of men in linguistic and social emotional abilities. We can equally con…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 12:57 AM
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All of the struggles of women are in my original post Good to know that men don't seem to be as aware of women's issues as we are of theirs. I always kind of figured but its nice to have the proof right here
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 12:48 AM
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I was surprised to see the violent victim gap has just about closed actually. This 'men are more likely to be victims of violence' is not at true as they think it is
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 12:46 AM
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And I'm unfortunately not surprised that you have nothing to offer in return. I very rarely see guys acknowledge women to the same extent that they demand to be acknowledged by us
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 12:41 AM
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I've bombarded this guy with data and sources. He doesn't seem to absorb anything
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 12:40 AM
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Your omission is a perfect answer. Tells us what we need to know
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 12:37 AM
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lol again. If you aren't gonna take yourself seriously then why should I? If this is what makes you feel better then whatever, I can't force you to educate yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 12:35 AM
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Thanks! Have you?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 12:17 AM
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I agree, and I have been fully convinced that dating apps are disproportionately, negatively affecting men. I think its a bigger issue than people outside this sub realize
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 12:15 AM
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Education is definitely one sided at the moment, I have to concede that. As far as the others go, men are more likely to be funded when opening a business or performing research Women frequently apply for funding, but several studies have found they are less likely to be approved for business loans than men, and when they do get funding, they receive less money than men do. https://www.bmo.com/en-us/main/business-banking/women-in-business/business-funding-and-gender/ Women researchers received s…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 12:13 AM
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We are about equally likely to be victims of men. Yes, if an attacker comes at me in a crowded place I am more likely to be helped but so are you, people tend to call the cops when people are attacked in a crowded public place. Bad news is most of these crimes are calculated to take place in isolated areas.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 12:08 AM
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Oh I thought we were playing around lol lets say the three things we have learned about the opposite sex and their struggles Men are falling behind in school and educational initiatives do not serve boys equally Men are experiencing a loneliness crisis right now on a scale we haven't seen before and it may very well be out of their control. Men are required to sign up for the draft and women are not. I think we can and should take action on all of these. Now you go
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 12:05 AM
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huh? I am getting the feeling you have no idea what I am talking about here Of course you would be more afraid of men. They are more likely to attack you just like how women are afraid of men for that same reason
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 12:02 AM
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yes, have you too?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 12:01 AM
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ya its gross. some people don't care about truth or reality and just want to troll.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 12:00 AM
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yes Have youuuu?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 11:56 PM
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Because they commit more violence, you misread what I said. If 48% of victims are female and 53% are male but 80% of attackers are male but only 20% are female that means women are being targeted disproportionately
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 11:54 PM
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It would be a good deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 11:52 PM
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Yes so much power. Not political or financial power but you know what, we can get stuffed whenever we desire. It goes right along with all the power we have in our upper bodies. What should I do with all this 'power'?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 11:50 PM
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You should learn not to take some of the things people say on here seriously. Once a day a red pill dude says women don't deserve rights on this sub and I just dismiss it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 11:47 PM
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Have you?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 11:33 PM
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ya sorry I have seen your comments and you don't care about truth or reality. I have nothing to say to you
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 11:32 PM
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nah as a man we would work less A 2017 World Economic Forum study found that on average, women spend nearly an hour longer working per day than men, when both paid and unpaid labor are taken into account. Also men are only 5% more likely to be victims in violent crime than women. That gap has narrowed despite women still being less likely to perpetrate violent crime. In 2022 more women than men were victims of violent crime https://www.consumershield.com/articles/victims-of-violent-crime-by-gend…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 11:31 PM
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Men are successful because they are GOOD and women are unsuccessful because they are BAD. Just say what you wanna say, you like that women have less power.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 11:25 PM
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argue with me all you want about the military thing but its widely recognized. https://www.usni.org/magazines/proceedings/2023/june/needed-body-armor-built-women That is the same link you posted last time. Ya I was hoping you would actually read through it this time. It talks about cultural barriers. source for that quote? ya the link directly under it https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4687019/ Listen you can deny what I'm saying and even my sources but you don't have anything to offe…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 11:21 PM
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https://www.sir.advancedleadership.harvard.edu/articles/shrink-it-and-pink-it-gender-bias-product-design this one should work https://research.iscrr.com.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0008/310220/womens-injuries-and-return-to-work-the-social-context-final-report.pdf here is the link for the recovery time "Over half of workplace homicides perpetrated by intimate partners occurred in parking lots and public buildings"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 11:08 PM
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More control over the situation. Men are more likely to attack and to be attacked so we have to assume at least some of this is due to men being more likely to escalate situations. Also, as a man I would have a better chance of defending myself. As a woman I have not only much less control over the escalation of the situation but I am also much more vulnerable
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 11:03 PM
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I prefer eagle librarian
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 10:50 PM
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The disparity isn't as stark as it use to be. Its increased by a lot In 2022, there were slightly more female victims of violent crime than male victims, with about 1,749,030 male victims and 1,762,840 female victims. https://www.statista.com/statistics/423245/us-violent-crime-victims-by-gender/ So we are equally or more likely to be attacked and less likely to attack.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 10:49 PM
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Because women's bodies are more fragile. While I appreciate you speedy and concise explanation, there is in fact already research on this and it points to design inequality between the genders Source? The quantitative data held by both organisations had limited indication of women’s caring status so direct analysis of the exact impact of caring responsibilities on recovery and return to work was not possible. The available TAC data suggested women experiencing longer term injuries (more than 6 m…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 10:38 PM
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I try to and will continue to do so but to be fair, I don't see a lot of men advocating for women's issues on here so I don't know what you expect when it comes to other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 10:13 PM
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So it isn't really about feminism as much as its about how damaging dating apps are for men?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 10:12 PM
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Has it been demonstrated that there are actually effective design alternatives? If it is and there's money to be made, then it will be designed. Yes, it turns out that things designed for women's bodies work just as well for women as things designed for men's bodies. "Female soldiers are far more likely to fracture their pelvis than males, as a result of the biased design of military boots, course requirements and backpacks" I think if our female troops are serving their country they deserve equ…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 10:10 PM
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I believe in advocating for both so does that make me both a feminist and a men's rights activist?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 10:00 PM
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Men choose to compete with other men for female attention. To say they don't have a choice kind of points at the main fallacy with these kind of arguments, if men who are complaining about having to compete are here on reddit bitching, where are the men who don't mind competing? What could you argue to men that would change their mind about competing for women? How do we get men to agree not to seek out women?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 09:57 PM
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I will take you not answering the question as you being fully aware that women are not more advantaged than men. You know but think its justified.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 09:53 PM
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If anyone advocating for women's interest is a feminist, is it true that anyone advocating for men's interests are MGTOW??
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 09:52 PM
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Male representation leads to male design in things like cars, military equipment, urban planning, etic. that disproportionately disadvantages women. Male representation leads to men being funded more for projects and startups, scientific research, and male diseases getting more medical research AND funding. Male representation leads to ineffective policies for female specific problems. You don't know because you've never had to deal with this. The world is designed for you
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 09:47 PM
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Good luck to me here because you already started by either misunderstanding me or lying about what I said but here we go. Are you saying either 1: political representation and access to capital are not good measures of equality 2: Women HAVE equal access to these two things already? Which is it? like Cardi-B, who used to drug men and rob them and before any chronically online redditard feminincel brings up CEOS and Billionares and some Taylor's Swift song, those positions happen due to wealth an…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 09:39 PM
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Why are women 47% more likely to get injured in car accidents (17% more likely to die) despite causing less accidents? Why are women on average less likely to get adequate recover time for procedures and surgery? What is the leading cause of workplace death for women?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 09:35 PM
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Political representation and access to capital. Its that simple. Do women have equal political representation and access to capital as men do, yes or no?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 09:13 PM
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Political representation and access to capital are arguably pretty decent metrics for equality. How do we stack up?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 09:10 PM
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Two years from when they find out the kid isn't theirs, not 2 years from when the kid is born
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 08:57 PM
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thanks for saving me the work
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 07:01 PM
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Making class attendance and standardized tests the only metrics for grading would eliminate bias against men. Getting rid of affirmative action and DEI in schools and corporations would give back to men the academic and employment opportunities expropriated from them. Restrict voting rights to heads of households that are a net tax benefit would lead to policy changes that ends the expropriation of male income to subsidize women. Eliminate no-fault divorce and restrict alimony and child support …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 06:22 PM
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I agree with all of this except the no fault divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 06:10 PM
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Very true
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 03:25 AM
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Because that’s what it says in the study, hence the “they go on to say….” Part You guys understand that these aren’t my theories right? Edit: here is the quote “ We predicted that foodie calls may be most prevalent among women who scored high in the dark triad as well as those who espoused more traditional gender roles. In Study 1, each of our hypotheses was con- firmed.” I guess I can kind of see the confusion but it’s not crazy to assume that the kind of girls who do this don’t have great pers…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 03:25 AM
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Nope lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 02:27 AM
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ya that's a shame. I have seen stuff like this before where girls don't understand that guys need clear signals. This is kind of weird but one time with friends we kind of did a role reversal where the girls had to pretend like guys and act like they were trying to pick up girls (its kind of hard to explain bear with me) and i remember being so at a loss for how to both make a girl feel like I wasn't a creep AND I wanted to do sexy things with her. I remember feeling absurdly nervous and self aw…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 02:01 AM
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Ya, I cringe at the thought of doing something like this. I can hardly believe that 3 out of 10 women do this as I can't think of one woman I know who would
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 01:50 AM
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And are you glad you did that or do you wish you would have responded differently?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 01:42 AM
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Oh ya, women can be cruel for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 01:16 AM
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Get back when you learn how to discuss with adults and like an adult. you got a weird little attitude here. Have I hurt your feelings before or something? What policies?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 12:58 AM
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ohhh ok
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 12:54 AM
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Ok so what policy should we enact that's halfway between women not having rights and women having rights? When you guys say stuff like this what are you proposing?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 12:52 AM
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However, you claimed that the user above assumes these are great. You're not talking about me are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 12:50 AM
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And ill start one until one of you acknowledges that the opposite of sexual liberation is sexual oppression
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 12:43 AM
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I mean there is that lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 12:40 AM
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Compassion for what the humans you are talking to
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 12:40 AM
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Honesty without compassion is cruelty.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 12:36 AM
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haha ohhhhh I see. When you gain enjoyment from being a dick to women its ok because you have a good reason for it
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 12:22 AM
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I didn't say a third of women have dark triad traits. I was trying to discuss the results of the findings in the paper you linked. "One reason we observed correlations between all dark triadtraits on the bivariate level but only found the general dark triadfactor to be a consistent predictor when examining the incremen-tal prediction of each factor is the large overlap between the darktraits. Pattern of correlations in both studies showed all threetraits were related to previous foodie calls and…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 12:21 AM
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This is a fun study, they go on to say that women who do this score high in the dark triad traits
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 12:14 AM
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do you think rejecting men gives us the same satisfaction as trolling gives you?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 12:08 AM
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By the way I am a dick for not responding to these very well thought out responses. You make several good points
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 11:13 PM
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Here's a literal reality for women, finding out that men who hate you will still actively seek to be a part of your life. Women are relentless hellacious beasts. I wish I didn’t want them so bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 10:14 PM
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Do you think there are ever instances where women experience this same thing? What harsh reality about others do you think women have to confront in their lives?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 10:02 PM
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That’s what I was wondering too. I certainly didn’t get to live out my childhood believing men were always wonderful. Imagine never experiencing abuse at the hands of the opposite sex in your childhood and then assuming that this means they were really the evil ones all along
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 09:27 PM
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At what age did you find the red pill?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 09:21 PM
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Actually upon rereading it seems that you believe it is possible for unilateral decisions to exists only when it comes to a woman’s decision. But in the case of men you believe that extenuating circumstances alleviate them of being in direct control of their circumstances So yes, agree to disagree here Thanks for the debate
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 06:53 PM
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Fair enough, thanks for the debate. I appreciate how you kept the conversation on the topic and didn’t turn it into a personal thing like a lot of people do (I’m guilty of this too). This was fun
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 06:35 PM
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We will bring it back to this one then. Unilaterally means solely in control of the decision but this is false because the decision was influenced by the man’s decision to cum in her. Therefore this is unilateral no
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 06:27 PM
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And I am saying that all of those circumstances are contingent on a man making the conscious decision to impregnate a woman Therefore the obligation to pay child support is a consequence that is fully avoidable by the man and because he has direct control over his circumstances from the very beginning
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 06:22 PM
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Your original comment places the burden of the decision to have a child on the woman Mine was that this burden should be placed on the man
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 06:13 PM
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It is possible to abandon a kid without the consent of the father but only fathers have the ability to unilaterally choose to become fathers in the first place. Therefore consequences related to choosing poorly rest on the man to a greater degree. I think I’m going to get myself a little treat to reward myself for winning this argument, should I go with a new video game or a new pair of shoes?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 06:09 PM
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We are arguing as to which parent had the unilateral decision to prevent the birth of a child. I said men because they can choose not to cum in a woman. You were not able to provide a counter argument and went on a rant about butterfly effects and road trips I win
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 05:57 PM
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Ahhh I’m sorry but you are changing the logic we agreed upon in the beginning of this conversation. What you’ve just described are extenuating circumstances that influence people’s ability to make decisions If we want to have this conversation we need to apply that logic equally. For instance, if this is the case then a women DOES NOT have the unilateral decision to surrender or get an abortion when we consider external forces that influence her decision
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 05:48 PM
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No, nothing she does later will lack the influences of the action of the man you was able to unilaterally choose which woman to cum in He made a decision to impregnate her. He had every opportunity to choose not to
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 05:40 PM
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Who can decide not to cum in someone? If you don’t want a kid, don’t impregnate a woman This is hard for you to understand?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 05:34 PM
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No. Because her decision is contingent upon a man’s decision to impregnate her. The decision to have a child or to not have a child fully rest on the person who can unilaterally determine whether or not to set off a chain of events When you cum in someone they may get pregnant. You can decide not to cum in someone It’s as simple as that
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 05:30 PM
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So you’re saying the majority of men choose older women. So guys in their 20s actively seek women in their 30s?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 05:24 PM
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Sounds like the man still had the decision not to impregnate her. He could have told her no
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 05:22 PM
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So men are choosing to date older women?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 05:22 PM
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You do realize the original argument was that people selecting for the best genes should be judge the same regardless of their gender right?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 05:18 PM
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You think women are able to unilaterally surrender a child they have been carrying for 10 months? If that logic is true then so is the logic that men are unilaterally able to determine who they impregnate. Should the child suffer because the man was irresponsible in who he impregnated?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 05:15 PM
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No they want a tall guy to pass his genes to her offspring. Are you miss understanding on purpose?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 05:09 PM
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“Without the risk of ever paying child support” I’m really curious, do you think child support covers every aspect of a child’s needs and the mother doesn’t have to spend any of her own money on the child?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 05:08 PM
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But land whales don’t land LT relationship I know you’re trying to avoid this part but obesity is genetic. Ya you can get in the gym and lose weight but probability says a roll of the dice will more often result being overweight Antisocial personality traits are genetic too. Ya you can work towards socializing yourself but probability says a roll of the dice will more often result in you displaying antisocial behavior If people are looking for the best genes, displaying the weakness of your gene…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 04:53 PM
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oh so now you’re arguing that a woman doesn’t have to be young skinny and attractive to get an alpha?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 04:35 PM
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Height is genetic. Women going for height is the same as men going for youth Peoples attraction is based on our ability to assess their genetic potential Tall strong men Young skinny girls It’s the same dude. If you wanna go full biology argument on this on a hats fine but don’t be a god damn hypocrite about it
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 04:28 PM
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Whatever you say welfare king lol “Wahhh I should be handed what I want instead of it being handed to me” Quality men want women quality women Young attractive women who have not had kids Quality women want quality men Physically fit, intelligent and ambitious Is this too hard of a concept for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 04:18 PM
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haha ya shitty actions result in shitty consequences Remember this energy the next time guys on here bitch about how their shitty actions deserve less shitty consequences. I don’t think you guys are capable of seeing your own hypocrisy
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 03:43 PM
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Got it! Thanks for the explanation, some of us are high
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 06:09 AM
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When you say alpha widow, as in a women who’s husbands dead but like the leader of all the widows or do you mean she was married to an alpha, he died, and then she became the town bicycle ?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 05:41 AM
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That’s fine. Everyone has an ego for a reason, it’s an important part of our psyche And I’m not too worried about it. Guys like you exists but guys unlike you exists too. For every human who is happy to watch others suffer there is a human who refuses to. Makes the world interesting ya know?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 05:31 AM
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Oh good. I’m glad you know what’s best for everyone based on what’s best for yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 05:24 AM
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So men should have the right to knock up women and leave them if they don’t get abortions. This is an idea you thought about, physically typed, reread (I assume) and then sent You chose to do this lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 05:19 AM
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How fun. Another comment on how no matter what, women are evil and men are always victims. I save these comments and show people sometimes. Not for any bad reasons, just because of how interesting it is to see people who are so unaware. Saying things like this about people without a thought. It’s just wild how comfortable some of you guys are with refusing to extend empathy to women sometimes to the extent that I have to believe that you feel a little disgusted with yourselves
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 05:05 AM
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Ya i was kind of looking to it. There are mixed studies. I think this could be true in the sense that men are an important presence in kids lives and they are more likely to make more money. There are some things I’m curious about when it comes to the data. For one, people love to get excited over raw numbers. If 86% of convicted criminals come from single mothers but only 14% come from single fathers, this would be a very clear indication that men are better….until we account for the fact that …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 04:46 AM
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I think it varies wildly depending on the man so this is a little too broad for me to synthesize properly. If I’m speaking generally, right now I think boys and young men, especially those in middle and lower class, have a gap in their support structures that no one anticipated and many people are blind to. I don’t think men need more women. I think men need men. I’m almost hesitant to bring his up because of the hate single moms get, but more boys now than ever are being raised without a father…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 04:36 AM
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Can I ask you more about this statement about single dads and moms? I’ve seen this before and I’m wondering where you read this.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 04:20 AM
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Omg it just clicked. That’s why y some of these men are so obsessed with child support and hate single moms so much. God you guys hate us so much. And all because we have a “choice” Thats really depressing
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 03:57 AM
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if we are incapable of listening or saying any thing of value then it seems illogical of you to engage in a conversation with us no? If we are all such npcs to you then take comfort in the fact that you have no reason to be frustrated.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 03:08 AM
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Invisible women lol But in all seriousness it just talks about the massive amounts of data that is missing on women because they just aren't studied. It’s worth the read, lotta good info
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 01:06 AM
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I always wonder about people like you. Don’t you think it’s weird that you’re judging people against criteria you can’t recognize? You are blind to the good in women and yet still judge them for their faults What’s the point? If you believe that the good doesn’t exist then your comparisons don’t really make sense
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 08:10 PM
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Good stuff. Again it’s not that I think these things don’t happen. It’s just that I’m not looking to convince myself that others deserve poor treatment so that I can model my behavior accordingly
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 05:45 PM
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Yes I know, you are just waiting for a reason to take out all of your hate on another person. Your just waiting for them to do something that will make you feel justified You’re not a rarity Someone has to carry the pitchforks
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 05:33 PM
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Should we sit here and share videos back and forth of the things men or women did that hurt our feelings? Let yourself be influenced by the actions of people who are hateful then. Match and imitate the behavior you despise. Look for reasons to feel wronged so you can feel good about wronging others. As for me, I won’t let those people determine my quality of character
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 05:32 PM
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Haha this conversation isn’t for you. Everyone thinks their reason for being shitty is better than everyone else’s
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 05:28 PM
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I think you should first look at the women fighting for rights in countries where people lose their lives for that kind of thing Malala Yousafzai fights for girls education in Pakistan (her father fights at her side) Leymah Gbowee helped bring an end to Liberia's second civil war (when you look these women up I want you to look for the men who fought with them) Look into how Einsteins wife, also a physicist and mathematician, contributed to his early work Everyone loves the Beethoven was single …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 05:27 PM
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I’m not trying to counter your view on the world. I’m trying to expand it However just like a lot of conversations like this my ability to contribute is going to depend on your intentions. Are you here to justify your believes or challenge your own understanding? Really think about it If I told you to find a great accomplishment of a great man and review it to see if there are any contributions you missed would you? If I told you that women have sacrificed, suffered, and fought all while fully k…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 05:01 PM
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An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind. How can we punish hasty and unethical decisions with equally hasty and unethical solutions? This isn’t a new concept but all humans are worthy of inherit respect and human dignity When we carry out justice it should be in the name of the collective good and not reactionary tribal retribution I answered the question but the truth is I believe castration is not a punishment that should be carried out
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 04:55 PM
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I read invisible women this summer (really good book and on Spotify, very data driven) and it really got me thinking about the blindness we have for each other Women are capable of this too. Men post this on this sub all the time like ALL the time. This is posted elsewhere as well. We know what the numbers are so it’s dismissive to say, “this is how it’s always been, this is nature”. I don’t think singleness is as indicative of a persons quality of character as we think it is in this day and age…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 04:41 PM
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If you don’t think we live in a male centric world please read through here and see the way he views men as the very definition of everything great about humanity and how women are just….. there No one here is going to convince you that the world of women has an existed within your world all this time. Over the loud conversations of his funniest friends women were there existing in the same public spaces. Throughout the bold and overly descriptive historical explanations of the great men of hist…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 02:25 PM
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No problem And ya we glossed right over that little ethicality lol Neither castration nor the death penalty should be used as punishment in my opinion
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 12:51 PM
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lol do you think this is my post? I'm answering the OP's question based on my opinion ya doof
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 02:50 AM
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What article ? What are you arguing here? That exonerated men should not be compensated?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 02:39 AM
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Wrong thread friend
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 02:35 AM
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Post it. Post this study and ask people if it provides evidence in favor of blue pilled ideologies or red pill ideologies
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 02:29 AM
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This study is the strongest evidence I have ever seen that challenges the red pill theory. Do women select for agreeableness and conscientiousness in potential mating partners? The red pill says no. This study says, “This difference in parental investment suggests that securing assistance from males, ideally the father(s), over longer periods of time to increase paternal provisioning is central to the female strategy to increase reproductive success (Clutton-Brock, 1991).” This study relies on t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 02:06 AM
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Ya we should probably be focusing on that more
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 12:41 AM
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Is this what happens in the case of false murder accusations?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 12:34 AM
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Yes, he should be compensated. If it is proven that the accuser lied under oath the penalties are the same as when this happens in a false murder accusation. They can be charged wi the perjury, false reporting and the accused can sue for defamation
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 12:31 AM
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Yes. The same judgments you have towards single mothers and fat women can also be applied to excuses that single men use. Its like if you told me that my car broke down because I didn't give it an oil change and I said 'oh ya? well YOU ran out of gas the other week because you didn't pay attention to your gauge" The conversation is pointless. Accusing others of having faults does not make your own faults disappear.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 07:09 PM
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Do you believe you are objectively correct in your assessment of women? Because if your assessment can be labeled as objectively right that means mine can as well doesn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 06:46 PM
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Do you often come across information that confirms your bias? Maybe you are a witch too
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 06:18 PM
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Our coven only suggests we use this combination only in preparing food for men
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 06:12 PM
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The fundamental misunderstanding here is that you believe we are contesting the relationship between sexual success and criminality. We are assuming there is a correlation in order to answer the question as to why. Your claim "Delta group commits the most crime in relation to other groups" would never be approved as a research paper because it is too vague. Studies are approved based on the question they pose and this specific question was not IF criminality and reproductive success are related.…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 06:09 PM
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I don't think so but should I be concerned if my doctor takes the form of a black goat?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 05:59 PM
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My doctor recommended I take supplements to help curb my inherent evil nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 05:06 PM
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You implied earlier that men who use being nice as a tool to get sex don’t actually want to be nice in the first place. They just want sex. Yes. Women are more likely to have sex with men who they believe will be a good long term partner. The two groups who are mainly successful in employing this strategy are: A. Men who's personalities align with their desire for a long term relationship. B. Men who's personalities do not align with their desire for a long term relationship but are skilled at d…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 04:52 PM
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Right but are we framing male sexuality in a way that empowers men to make pro-social decisions regardless of intensity or frequency of urges? Let me put it this way. I'm sure you disagree with the practice of teaching girls from a young age that their sexuality is inherently bad and this is why they need to control those urges. You and I both know that this practice is considered completely inhumane and does not benefit girls. Now we tell girls that their sexuality is perfectly natural and that…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 04:43 PM
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That's what I got from the study too. It really helps in understanding some of the things that are talked about on here.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 04:27 PM
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I see what you are trying to say but I worry that you are unintentionally communicating that the urge itself (being horny) is the same as violating other peoples boundaries. Please note I'm not criticizing or disagreeing with your statement I 100% believe you support the idea that people should not be made to feel that their natural urges are either good nor bad but instead want to emphasize the need for understanding those urges and how to react to them appropriately. For a lot of young men, es…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 04:25 PM
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Of course but I'm exploring the intentionality related to the higher reproductive success rates we see in criminal men. I might be wrong here so feel free to correct me From what I understand red pill dating strategies support the notion that criminality itself attracts women more often then being non-criminal. Women choose poorly. But this study kind of says the opposite no?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 04:11 PM
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I am not sure if you are communicating your point like you want to. Can I ask how much you agree or disagree with this statement? The extent to which our society acknowledges, educates, and provides guidance on sexual education regarding how biology affects our bodies when it comes to sexual desires is the same for both men and women. Do you think society views sexuality in both men and women as natural urges and provides education on how to recognize and understand these urges and also offers s…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 03:57 PM
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Kind of, the study attempts to explain criminal behavior from an evolutionary perspective, with focus on men. Why is criminality a trait that is related to reproductive success (hence it still being around) if the consensus agrees that female mating strategy is centralized on securing long term assistance from the father and therefore selecting mates that will invest in offspring such as so called 'blue pilled' males? It suggests that the higher reproductive success of men who display criminalit…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 03:43 PM
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Can I ask what you think of this study?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 03:20 PM
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Ok and I do understand your confusion but try and understand what I am arguing with this person in the first place about. The original post supports the blue pill theory. That women are not attracted to criminality more often than non criminality. Now the this person responded to this claim stating that this article supports evidence that women are attracted to criminals. He believes that women knowingly seek men who would make bad fathers. He posted this article to back up this RED PILL theory.…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 02:24 PM
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So you agree. This study does not prove nor support that women are attracted to criminality?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 12:39 PM
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I have to give up on you now. I just want you to know I really did believe in you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 06:43 AM
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Ok. This is such an important lesson on why sharing studies is useless The study finds evidence that women are not attracted to criminals. You cannot even read the study well enough to understand that and in fact believe it supports your claim which is really hilarious I put the article into chat gpt and asked it this question. If you are dead set on defending your stance you should do the same and see what you get “Criminal offending as part of an alternative reproductive strategy: investigatin…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 06:30 AM
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So you agree with me This study does not prove that women are attracted to criminals
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 06:18 AM
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“We investigated whether there was an association between criminality and outcomes related to the cheater theory (Ellis & Walsh, 1997) in a Swedish total population sample.” They are investigating if criminals get more women because of the cheater theory “Thus, it is possible for males to increase their reproductive success without paying the cost of parental investment either by dishonestly mimicking the courtship behavior of other males that do invest highly in offspring and therefore get to m…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 06:10 AM
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sociodemographic and psychiatric confounders are unlikely to explain this association" Sociodemographic refers to age, race , etc Psychiatric confounders are psychiatric conditions that could otherwise obscure the true relationship between the variables of interest. This sentence means the results of the study support the cheats strategy across multiple groups and accounts for interactions that might result in false associations
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 05:58 AM
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“Prove to me that women think they are choosing better.“ The studies success supports this. You have to be stringing me along at this point
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 05:45 AM
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First remember my original argument wasn’t with you. This thread is you questioning me about the studies results and why they don’t support what the first person was saying it did
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 05:43 AM
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No, red pillers believe women are attracted to anti social behavior This study suggests that it’s not their antisocial behavior women are attracted, it’s the man’s ability to MASK that behavior that makes him more successful
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 05:41 AM
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God I hope this thread never goes away. I really hope someone who understands how hilarious this is gets to read it before it gets buried
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 05:40 AM
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The absolute irony of a red pilled man citing a study with the potential to completely disprove the red pill theory, but none of them are intelligent enough to read it. I might just be high but this is really something special
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 05:37 AM
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Yes, criminal men get a disproportionate amount of women because they can trick women into believing they are good people and would make good fathers
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 05:31 AM
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This study supports the idea that when addressing the “bad boy” phenomenon it’s less effective to tell women to “choose better”. This would suggest that women are choosing poorly intentionally. The cheater theory challenges that notion and suggests that women DO believe they are choosing better. Therefore the “choose better” argument fails to take into account intentionality.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 05:29 AM
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that women are attracted to men who are criminals. This suggests women have an adaptive feature that makes them seek men who they knowingly understand are not good long term partners. This is what the person I was replying to was arguing What the study says Criminal men have an adaptation strategy in which they either pretend to exhibit the traits of a long term relationship interest, or force thier partner therefore attracting women who believe they will be good long term partners or women who …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 05:18 AM
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Haha dude I’m not arguing that scientific studies prove things, I’m arguing that THIS study does NOT SUPPORT the argument of the person who cited it
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 05:00 AM
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Ahhh back to where it all began “Thus, it is possible for males to increase their reproductive success without paying the cost of parental investment either by dishonestly mimicking the courtship behavior of other males that do invest highly in offspring and therefore get to mate, or by forcing females to mate with them (Gross, 1996)” Previous to this it talked about displaying paternal characteristics as being linked to reproductive success, the below theory, the cheater strategy, might explain…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 04:59 AM
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Ok well the person linked a study on criminality outcomes and cheater theory (the theory that men trick women or force them). This would explain the success of criminals getting laid by them using the cheater theory. How does this back up what the guy who originally linked it says?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 04:50 AM
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Can you summarize the cheater strategy in your own words?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 04:39 AM
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One more time We investigated whether there was an association between criminality and outcomes related to the cheater theory (Ellis & Walsh, 1997) in a Swedish total population sample. What were they investigating?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 04:27 AM
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There’s nothing I can do at this point. This article is out of your reading level
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 04:15 AM
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Yes. What you said is true, what I said is also true but is a more detailed explanation of the study including the direct quotes above. This part of the study, the worst bit, gives you EXTRA information on how they conducted the study, who the participants where, and what the researchers are positing. They are trying to answer a specific question. Again all in the words part
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 04:12 AM
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Ooooooo lmao I was giving you way too much credit. Ya no the study doesn’t back up what he says. I understand that looking at the diagrams and seeing raw numbers that confirm your bias is exciting but the words are important to read too. This doesn’t talk about women being attracted to criminals, this study was examining how criminals use the cheater strategy to trick women into believing they are into long term relationships but then ultimately leave that woman and mate with another woman which…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 04:03 AM
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What did I believe? I am trying to understand why you think I said what I …. Omg I just realized you didn’t read the rest of this thread. Read the conversation between me and the person I was replying to and get back to me
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 03:55 AM
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So what was the conclusion
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 03:48 AM
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I am flattered that you think I these are my theories but it’s actually from the study the guy I was replying to linked. All of the information on how they define these behaviors is in the study cited above
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 03:41 AM
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lol
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 12:41 AM
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I know I read it. Your thinking process isn’t exactly something that needs unraveling. How about this. Since this seems to be a successful mating strategy I think you should try it. If that’s what you got out of this study “women only like criminals” go be one.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 12:33 AM
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I didn’t expect you to change your mind. You went on a deep dive rant in another post about a study you didn’t even understand. Information really is useless to some The study doesn’t support your theory but this conversation DOES support my theory about your reading comprehension
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 12:24 AM
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I played a funny little trick on you. This is from the study you posted. It’s their hypothesis “Thus, it is possible for males to increase their reproductive success without paying the cost of parental investment either by dishonestly mimicking the courtship behavior of other males that do invest highly in offspring and therefore get to mate, or by forcing females to mate with them (Gross, 1996). This deceitful tactic is often referred to as a “cheater” strategy.” “In summary, we found substanti…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 12:15 AM
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It is possible for males to increase their reproductive success without paying the cost of parental investment either by dishonestly mimicking the courtship behavior of other males that do invest highly in offspring and therefore get to mate, or by forcing females to mate with them
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 12:01 AM
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Then we deserve each other
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 11:03 PM
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Right, in that specific scenario there is more likely to be a lack of anonymity. Reducing the chance for harmful behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 05:09 PM
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oh I see. I got confused and thought underlying principles that affect one area could apply across different situations. of course that's stupid. what was I thinking
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 05:07 PM
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Merely having the ability to do something is not the same as doing it, and doesn't necessarily lend someone to unethical behaviour So it's your belief that anonymity DOES NOT influence levels or likelihood of anti-social or criminal behavior?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 05:02 PM
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Is it not glaringly obvious that both of these behaviors are shitty?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 04:58 PM
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I saw a post talking about signs of intelligence and how knowledge transfer is one of the hallmark signs of higher order thinking skills. Being able to grasp how one concept in one context can apply to another context is really helpful but I think some people really struggle with this. Its really taken the wind out of my sails when it comes to arguing on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 04:38 PM
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Now please point to a country that has a similar imbalance of people killing massive amounts of babies just because they were born male. We all live on this planet and saying, 'oh well that's happening over THERE' so it doesn't matter' is an easy thing to say for the gender that this never happens to.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 04:29 PM
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Omg I always kind of assumed this theory so its pretty validating to read these. Thank you for the source!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 04:10 PM
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I don't doubt it. In fact I think both of these scenarios would be detrimental to the majority of both men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 04:02 PM
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If women want to peacefully coexist with men, they'll have to learn to value men for things that don't/won't get them killed. Expecting men to make themselves into martyrs for women's benefit is a source of dysfunction. Personally speaking, I don't see men as the chaotic ones. Maybe on a person-to-person basis, sure. But the nature of each individual man is quite consistent over time he ones who are enabled and entitled to shift and change according to their changing circumstances, feelings, etc…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 03:59 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 03:58 PM
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I’m not leaving you hanging. You made a lot of good points and I'm excited that you wanna talk about this but I’m gonna have to wait til i get home to reply. This is definitely a laptop discussion lol
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 02:58 AM
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Ok so I have a theory and I have been wanting to talk to men especially about it but its so hard on this sub because people are so primed. I think women have an instinctual ability to sense masculinity. This is where the ick factor comes from. A fragile masculinity is dangerous to women much more so than men. Think of the guys in shooter games and how the top players never really lash out at women but the crappy players do. Its insecurity and women sense it but its more than that. Enter the worl…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 12:23 AM
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We might be viewing this the wrong way. I think desocialization hurts both men and women but in different ways. People bitch about men not having social skills due to isolation which is certainly a component (not that they should be vilified for not having the opportunity to develop those skills) but I also think that women don't really get the benefit of the doubt when it comes to how their exposure to social media has begun to modify their ability to make connections. Just like we shouldn't vi…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 12:04 AM
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There is some really interesting information on this out there. For instance we see a correlation in a rise in violent crime and a surplus of men in societies that practice infanticide of females. The opposite is not great either as a surplus of women leads to an increase in polygyny and wealthier men tend to monopolize women leaving poorer men unmarried which might increase violence rates as well. Its kind of crazy
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 11:55 PM
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I have some theories but its tough because a lot of people on this sub are very sensitive and see attacks when things aren't phrased properly.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 11:47 PM
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Sure sure. Sorry but I see you sucking up to her in her other replies. Belligerent feminist, belligerent no flair, belligerent red piller. Its all the same. You are here to rile yourself up and find someone to hate on but I just don't have it in me to match your energy on something that isn't that hard to understand. Knock yourself out insulting me if that's what you're here for. I get it from both sides. Have fun
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 11:22 PM
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OoOoOoOohhhhh! nice one! lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 11:09 PM
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Its fake feminism to hide behind a movement that champions equality in order to hate on men indiscriminately and scrutinize women who don't hate men. I don't care that she does those things but to do it under the flag of feminism is kinda shitty
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 11:09 PM
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cool. keep your opinion. how you feel about this is outside my realm of concern at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 10:50 PM
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If that makes you feel better so be it. It’s not like this conversation is gonna go anywhere anyway. You don’t like to address the point of what I say as much as you like to pick at how I say it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 10:00 PM
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“The man has to make the first move” “The man has to text/reach out to me first@ “It’s a man’s job to lead/approach” “Can’t make it seem too easy guys love the chase” “She really wanted it” “She was just being a tease” “No means try again” I find it ironic that you imply that women are dense directly after failing to see the difference between these terms. PROVING to her that you want and deserve her and FORCING her to accept you are two very different things. It really seems like a common break…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 09:40 PM
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God you’re petty. This fake “feminist” concern is grating Keep downvoting me for disagreeing but I said what I meant and I meant what I said. You’re not a feminist if you don’t view women as inherently worthy of respect when they don’t align with your views
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 09:23 PM
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She can speak for herself I can speak on the matter too. A woman being able to participate in a conversation on a public forum isn’t contingent on whether or not you allow her to.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 09:10 PM
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If a full grown woman is clearly secure in her statement pease don’t infantilizase her in a way that implies you think she doesn’t understand her choices. She said what she said. She doesn’t mind being intimate with her husband even if there isn’t a climax in the end for her. Not all of us view sex through a harsh light. A healthy sex life means enjoying being intimate with your partner in many many different ways
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 08:59 PM
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Here’s the key word you are looking for Consent Of course this is ok if both people agree. I’ve done this with my partner before and I have no problem with it. We don’t do it often tho because it bugs him if I am not into it. He’d rather not do it at all than have me not enjoy it so weirdly enough the few times this happens it’s me convincing him. If I know I’m not in the headspace for it but can see that he is I’m perfectly fine with it still because I enjoy the intimacy and I am happy to fulfi…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 08:35 PM
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We disagree there. People are awful. But they are wonderful too. The bad part sucks but it’s the price we pay for the good stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 06:10 PM
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I honestly don’t even care about the original argument anymore. The same hate seeps into all arguments regardless of their specific context. It’s just hate validation. I’ve had a few good conversations tbh and those are what I look forward to but when someone responds with disproportionate hostility I just don’t think it’s worth it. It’s getting to me. I’m not perfect but I would like to work towards keeping an open heart and mind and I can’t do that if I allow myself to be antagonized “I will a…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 06:08 PM
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Again, do you dude. At this point it’s just easier to accept your hate rather than spend my emotional energy arguing that I and other women are humans worthy of respect and the benefit of the doubt. Just hate me. You win.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 05:50 PM
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Ya, to be honest I’d love the have some more integrity but you guys have been depressing the hell out of me so I just can’t continue to respond to the same accusatory hate with the same energy. It’s not that I don’t think you deserve my full attention, it’s just that I don’t have it in me to try and convince you that I , a woman, am not inherently evil and deceptive. It’s just not worth the toll it takes on me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 05:43 PM
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Yes you all seem to be well balanced and fully aware of your behavior. What if I told you that what you’re saying isn’t based on reality but is instead a narrative intended to justify words you would otherwise be disgusted with yourself for using? You’d probably think I’m crazy. In fact, you would probably think I’m saying that because im a shit person for no reason and therefore you can act towards me however you want. You don’t have to empathize with bad people right? And it doesn’t make YOU s…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 12:52 PM
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I’m gonna play a game here. I didn’t reed your post but I’m willing to bet you said something along the lines of “all women are bad and while no one else has a good reason to be a shit person I AM in fact justified in being a shit person and will use this very special and unique pass that no one else has, to be just as terrible as the people I’m complaining about!” How’d I do?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 12:40 PM
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What you said is noise. It’s just the same shit over and over. Women are irredeemable and men are always the victim. Your perspective never changes. You guys never bring anything new to the argument. Your stance never evolves or grows. New information never penetrates your psyche. If I have to read random accusations of misunderstood fallacies or excuses as to why everyone else is shit for no reason but YOU have an excuse to act like this i might start to believe that this sub is full of bots in…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 05:58 AM
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Are you the same guy I was talking to or another one. It’s hard to tell, you all say the same thing over and over regardless of the topic
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 05:45 AM
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I coulda guessed
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 05:33 AM
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Believe me, our conversation would not enlighten anyone. Look I don’t know what to make of you but the artificiality is a drag. It’s not fun talking to a mask
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 05:22 AM
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Eh maybe I spoke too soon. After this thread I think the PPB argument is not so much about men trying to justify wanting women from other countries and more of a reason for men and women to fight each other Men bring it up to get a rise out of women, not because they’re actually doing it. With as much as the guys on this sub bitch about having no women and also how women only date you if you have money, I don’t think the dudes who can afford to fly around to other countries and are getting laid …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 04:51 AM
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haha you're right that was mean, you didn't deserve it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 04:16 AM
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Marry her if you’re so offended. This is such a weird thing for some random red piller to argue with me about. Are you like windmill and have several accounts under different flairs for funsies or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 04:03 AM
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Uh huh. I don’t think a lot of you guys have anything really to say any this. I’ve already conceded to some points and my stance is reasonable Now I’m just hearing you guys ranting the same thing over and over. This is boring. When people can’t expand on their thinking and just keep arguing with you as if they never read your response you might as well be talking to a random text generator
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 04:02 AM
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I meant it in a snarky way. She’s not a feminist. Most women who claim they are aren’t . She just wants to man hate like some red pillers just want to woman hate. Same same
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 03:55 AM
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I can’t take you seriously anymore sorry. You’re wasting your time replying to me
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 03:22 AM
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This is special. You want to deny that people traveling to these countries to have sex with women might have shitty motives but you want me to acknowledge that the men who actively choose
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 03:18 AM
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Did you read what I wrote? I clearly said I’m not against it as a rule
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 03:09 AM
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Same difference. People all just want to be right and stoke their own egos lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 03:08 AM
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The passport bros ?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 03:06 AM
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This is your reasoning for refusing to acknowledge the danger some women might face? So some man you don't know isn't treated warily by strange women? WTF dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 02:05 AM
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ok and this is exactly what I am talking about. Instead of acknowledging the danger some of these women may face you paint men as victims and refuse to acknowledge that they can do anything wrong unless they are a Chad. Transient areas are higher in crime, this is a fact. Serial killers often choose jobs that allow them to move frequently from place to place. This type of hobby, frequently flying to different countries to meet women isn't inherently evil. But its stupid to deny that this type of…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 01:56 AM
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Right, I think you are confusing my explanation of cultural sentiments with my actual opinion. I didn't come up with this. This is an observation.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 01:45 AM
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Hmm Do you believe, "passport bros" are any more likely to mistreat the opposite sex than the female equivalent of backpacking through foreign countries to be dicked down by mactumbo? I'm not being a dick but I'm gonna need you to rephrase this question because I got nothin. No, I don't think all of these men are bad and I actually see the appeal in the sense that foreign women are desirable. I know a lot of foreign brides and its actually a non-issue in my eyes. These women are beautiful and wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 01:43 AM
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Ukrainian mail order bride 30 years ago and when I saw him on facebook they are still married. We have a company in my city that pretty regularly hires foreign workers and I know a LOT of relationships like this. Beautiful girls from Thailand, Poland, Brazil, etc. and they not only have it easier here as far as gender roles go but they are appreciated like crazy for it. I actually have a pretty positive view of this kind of thing. If its legit, and the men are actually looking for these type of …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 01:37 AM
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Well I was mainly talking about the guys who seem to hate women, but that's not all men and certainly not all single men. I don't think its that 'personality doesn't matter'. I actually believe a lot of you guys have perfectly decent personalities but need guidance and acceptance. Women are overly hostile towards men in a lot of areas of our society. Even my feminist ass sees the constant 'stay away boys we don't need you!!! Creep!" posts. And I cringe because I know its damaging. They have shit…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 01:31 AM
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I tried to watch the video and then realize who posted it. Windmill might literally be AI. The woman in the video may or may not be educated and its tough to watch a vague tik tok and base all of your information on what you can speculate from it. Instead lets do this. Bali, Indonesia, Barcelona, Spain, Tokyo, Japan, Prague, Czech Republic, and Dumaguete are the places that came up when I searched for passport bros locations. First of all what do you think of this list? Is this where you would g…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 01:25 AM
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No of course not. You have neither insulted women nor seen any other man do so. Also women never have anything of quality to say on the matter and refuse to be honest for nefarious reasons. I wonder why anyone would ever thing that your situation has anything to do with you at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 01:12 AM
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I'm waiting to see if even one of you guys can see the downside to the passport bros thing regarding the women they are flying overseas to find. The scenario you painted is fine and actually can be very beneficial for both parties. Now I wonder... you know how guys on here say that women never criticize other women? I'm curious if you believe that all of these men or even a majority flying to these countries have every intention of treating these women with respect and dignity and plan on marryi…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 01:09 AM
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That's the reality. Go ahead and sound the alarm. Because of the inequality that passport bros glorify and yearn for these women are undereducated, poor, and usually don't speak English well. That's not bigotry, that's describing the reality Its weird that you have a problem with people 'insulting' them but have no qualms about men flying to countries they would never entertain the idea of living in to fuck them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 01:04 AM
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Usually if people tell you that your personality is an issue after having a conversation with you, you are giving off vibes that you have a bad personality. Say what you want about whether agreeableness, conscientiousness, and honesty matter but even if those characteristics don't matter, being petulant and hateful certainly DOES matter. NOONE wants to be around a person like this. A lot of it is the absurdity of claims like "all handsome men are evil, all women are terrible but I want one real …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 12:53 AM
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That's for people who actually understand the importance of character. This guy doesn't think a guys personality matters for getting women. But he also thinks that all women don't have good personalities either. Everyone is terrible and they are all victims in this crazy world. People don't matter to these guys. Not really. I don't think I'd go so far as to call it sociopathy or narcissism but there is something about their world view that implies an underdeveloped social emotional intelligence.…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 12:21 AM
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ya.... turns out no one's personality is important. how enlightening
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 12:12 AM
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Right. Looks and money get you in the door but the personality is what gives the relationship staying power.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 12:09 AM
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You got me. I’m another evil woman trying to trick you into believing that the people you hate are human.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 11:23 PM
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I’m not gonna be able to convince someone who’s dead set on be petulant of anything. If you really dont understand the merit in what I said then it is what it is. This information isn’t useful to you no matter what I provide
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 08:56 PM
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Nothing. I actually just realized that I have been putting way too much effort into my end of this conversation. Agree to disagree
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 08:00 PM
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ok. Sometimes it best to look at things as neither good or evil. Some behaviors are just behaviors and viewing them through a lens unclouded by anger ( which inhibits communication to the frontal cortex and inhibits critical thinking) lets us understand things better. Reach for the book before you reach for the pitchfork. The benefit of the doubt is a powerful tool
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 07:58 PM
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the men who get laid the most are wildly misogynistic, No. Sexually successful men are not universally evil anymore than sexually unsuccessful men are universally misunderstood saints. And it is absolutely the case of men rationalizing which women are ok to insult/demean because they are frustrated with their situation. Regardless of gender or scenario, the weak blame others for their failure and justify their world view by dehumanizing the target of their frustration before lashing out. How can…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 07:53 PM
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Right but these things are connected. Association is powerful and people are wired to recognize patterns. Its petty outrageous to claim that this sentiment exists outside of the influence of cultural ideas related to protection regarding women and children. The fallacy is trying to analyze things in isolation and to then neglect the fact that these mysterious variables actually make perfect sense under a holistic form of assessment that takes interaction, association, and interplay into account
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 07:46 PM
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Do you even know what you are arguing against here? Men want sex but they aren't animals for god's sake. I need to eat but I don't shove every morsel of food that I can get my hands on into my mouth. This 'women expire' thing is bullshit. Even you don't believe it but its a handy tool to use when you want to lash out at women. This isn't about who men would or wouldn't sleep with. Its about finding demographics of women to unleash displacement aggression onto, which is weak male behavior. Cool a…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 07:39 PM
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Well it kind of plays into the idea that protecting the community is a priority. Men go fight, women and children ensure there is a home to come back to when the fighting is over. This is all some crazy simplistic bullshit that we could expand on for HOURS but the statement isn't the point. The sentiment is. Women and children are generally viewed as needing to be protected. He said that in a way that kind of implies automaticity in relating the concepts so its pretty good evidence for society f…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 07:30 PM
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Ya. Its feels like a pretty big underlying theme is that women give men's lives meaning in a way that not a lot of women understand fully. Women have had to be adaptable due to being more likely to be primary caregivers, historically, and can live in the absence of men if needed. And this isn't ideal no matter what anyone tries to say. Women thrive when supported by men but if the men are a threat survival is better than poverty and death. Its just a mechanism borne out of evolution in order to …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 07:08 PM
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Ok well if you’re not going to take this seriously then I’m wasting my time.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 01:23 PM
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You guys are really giving this 40 year old virgin the benefit of the doubt. Which is fine don’t get me wrong but my god it would be nice if even one dude on here acknowledged why a woman might have reservations on this.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 01:16 PM
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I have 100 chickens 50/50 male and female Last night there was a big fight in the coop 30 chickens were victims of violence 12 victims were female and 18 victims were male. There were chickens who were identified as willing perpetrators 24 of which are male and 6 of which were female. We can assume that some of the victims were willing participants in the fight but based on the evidence of the chickens who were proven to have committed the violent acts, a smaller amount of the female chicken vic…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 06:26 AM
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I’m not exactly sure what part of your source backs up what you said. Did you read it? It talks about how women make up a disproportionate amount of victims in relation to their perpetration rates. Basically it means that while men do have more violent acts committed against them, the perpetrator ratio makes sense. More men hurt men so of course the number is high. What doesn’t make sense is the high amount of female victims in relation to they likelihood of committing violent crime. Women are n…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 05:47 AM
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Oh ya! I think I got it I am sorry if my fair assessment of you. Pease and luv How was that?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 07:44 PM
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We can't abandon men. As angry as some of us are and as aware as we are of what happens when we give men power and things go bad, we still need to remember that they are humans. Men belong with us in our lives and in society and we are stronger when we stand together
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 06:25 PM
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I am happy being a woman and wouldn't trade for sure. I don't get emasculated or whatever if a females is better than me in every way. this is probably because you are secure in your masculinity which makes you reliable. The problem is that what ever led to your security in your identity seems to be lacking in a lot of men and boy's lives right now. I feel like there is no reliable leadership or guidance for men today which is something women have a hard time empathizing with because our ability…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 06:17 PM
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I really think soo so many problems in the gender equality thing stems from the devaluing of traditionally feminine roles. Funny how care work is a resource that is worth nothing when your wife does it but costs the same as your mortgage when she can't.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 06:12 PM
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I have kind of said this before but men are both the problem and the solution. We need men in this world for a lot of reasons but the protector can become the abuser if he feels emasculated or untethered (in my opinion) Its about cultural/societal norms. I look at it like this. A man's role in a society is kind of a fickle one because of the pecking order BS that happens in your groups and gene environment interactions. Men have to prove themselves to other men AND women. Women don't have to do …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 06:06 PM
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Its a critique of your behavior. Not bashing. Sometimes when people point out negative things about us we can feel attacked. The reason I feel compelled to point them out is that these behaviors are integral to the conversation on finding a relationship As far as the option thing goes the reason you want to dance around it probably stems from the resentment many men seem to feel when it comes to differences in gender and dating. I have never felt like AN option. I have always been made to feel l…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 05:36 PM
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Ok no I’m not apologetic for my assessment of your mood btw. You come off as resentful and don’t seem to want to engage in conversation outside of asking people to affirm what you believe while dismissing all other input. It’s a general lack of perspective taking and not making time for self reflection. These traits are pretty key to developing relationships actually. Maybe you should tell your friends
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 04:51 PM
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Are you angry that this is my perception of you and if so why? If not angry then what?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 04:29 PM
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I’m glad you shared this. A lot of people on here will disagree but there is a lot of wisdom here if people are willing to hear it
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 03:34 PM
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Ya exactly. the studies he provided are not the power houses of righteous justification that he thinks they are lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 03:30 PM
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But are you ok with being an option?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 03:28 PM
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Its weird how he's hounding you about the option thing. Some of these guys get so tunnel visioned that they literally cannot have a functional conversation. Nothing you say matters unless its the exact phrase he was looking for to validate his anger.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 03:07 AM
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Agreed
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 12:45 AM
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I think we agree on a lot here. Restless, angry, hopeless young men are not something we want a surplus of. We should take this more seriously I think and put a concentrated effort into helping young men and boys today. We can’t leave them behind because there is no future without them
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 12:29 AM
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I don't think what you are describing is boring. I think the way OP talks about it is boring. I think its better to be optimistic for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 12:15 AM
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Ya I think there are exceptions and ultimately I hope the guy finds a woman who would enjoy teaching him. But I think its good to be honest about what a lot of women would assume and why. Its not as easy to give a woman an orgasm as it is to give a man one (generally speaking). Even I will admit that the thought of a more experienced man teaching me is hot but I just don't think it is usually interchangeable. This is kind of what happens when people ask questions like this but refuse to elaborat…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 11:49 PM
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This is reddit. I'm whoever you want me to be at the end of the day. If it makes you feel better to imagine me as an 'evil other' then knock yourself out. That's probably a better option for you because the truth isn't as satisfying. Women commit paternity fraud. Men bail on child support. Women falsely accuse men of drugging them. Men drug women. These things happen. I'll keep that in mind but I'm not going to reach for a pitchfork over any of these scenarios.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 10:42 PM
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I'm disinclined to believe that this specific scenario of false accusation is anymore prevalent or harmful than any other type of false accusations. You are not going to convince me that being cautious with drinks directly harms anyone anymore than you can convince me that locking my door everyday is an implied attack on my neighbors trustworthiness. Don't you all get a little embarrassed about displaying the exact same level of irrational, paranoia that you accuse women of?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 09:29 PM
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Ohhhh I see. Ya that's not what I thought you meant. Banter is good lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 09:12 PM
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Ok so I hate to tell you this but you probably aren't as funny as you think you are
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 08:35 PM
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Ya all funny guys have to provide supplementary material for their jokes. Do you have any visual representations that would help?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 08:32 PM
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Counter evidence to what? That you are not in fact being personally victimized by Brandy when she says "I think I was roofied!!!" as she upends the alcohol poisoning in her stomach in the girls bathroom?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 08:30 PM
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probably. I'm not arguing that women over report being drugged. Just that its not an imminent threat or worth this kind of moral panic reaction Drunk people do dumb shit. I'll inform the press.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 08:25 PM
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So what you are arguing is that women not understanding your 'joke post' on PPD is a reliable indicator of all women's' overall capacity for humor? I'm not trying to be mean but you came off as resentful, not humorous. You take a woman saying 'not all women' way to personally for it to come off as funny. You weren't making a joke. You wrote an essay on how you are annoyed with women. Comes of as petulant instead of clever.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 08:24 PM
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Is this response for me? If so I am not sure what this question is in reference to
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 08:19 PM
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This is a vicious cycle, and leads to greater collective female paranoia and unwarranted hostility and suspicion towards men. Which medical study is this assertion based on? No. You looked up a couple studies that reinforce your original opinion. You aren't informed on this as much as you are emboldened by the cherry picked evidence you found.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 08:15 PM
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Did you read his links? Results 75 patients attended with alleged drink spiking over the period of 12 months. 42 samples were analysed and tested positive for drugs of misuse in 8 (19%) cases. 65% of those tested had alcohol concentrations >160 mg%. The alleged spiking took place in 23 different locations, with 2 locations accounting for 31% of responses. Only 14% of those questioned had informed the police. Conclusions Most patients allegedly having had a spiked drink test negative for drugs of…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 08:12 PM
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Having a decent sense humor is indicative of intelligence and humility in both men and women. They guy who can't tell a joke and the chick who doesn't get it belong together just as much as the girl who tells really stupid jokes and the guy dumb enough to laugh at them do lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 08:11 PM
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This is a vicious cycle, and leads to greater collective female paranoia and unwarranted hostility and suspicion towards men. How funny. Sensationalizing women's fear of drink spiking and claiming that women are incredibly paranoid and unfairly vilify men only to drop this little gem at the end. 10/10 Very funny
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 08:03 PM
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I agree with everything except the negging. Suring you don't want to gain access to a chick by exploiting her insecurities? That's a terrible habit to have in the long run if you are looking for a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 07:57 PM
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Well said. Also ya, having a sense of humor is so crazy important. Its one of the big social skills that make these kind of things a little easier I think
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 06:50 PM
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You don't have to read shit. They will probably let you teach no matter your competence level but for shits and giggles lets start here. Exactly which theory do you disagree with? Neurological mapping being more effective when new concepts are scaffolded on preexisting knowledge? Boys developing at a different rate than girls in social emotional intelligence? Integration across multiple subjects being linked to more efficient content acquisition? Pick one and I will find you the elusive, unknown…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 06:38 PM
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The problem with this type of “show me evidence!!” Approach is that it takes the onus off of you and leaves me forever chasing you with papers and authors that you will either reject or discredit because this information was of so little value to you to begin with. Your stance has degraded to you basically defending the fact that you are uninformed on the very discipline you practice.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 06:02 PM
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You’re joking right? You think the stuff I’m saying is unverified but it’s literally taught in teacher education programs. I am not making it up you know? My grandma was an educated and this is all easily verifiable
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 03:39 PM
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You’re sensationalizing my point because you’re more concerned with defending your expertise than you are with the reality of education. Yea I expect you to be an expert on how kids learn. Just like I expect my doctor to be an expert on medicine. It’s your job. You’re not a baby sitter, you’re an educator. The stuff I’m saying is basic. You don’t need a PHD in brain chemistry to know this stuff but you do need a basic grasp on how to adolescents learn best if you’re going to be a teacher
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 03:24 PM
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It’s called inference and I think a lot of people struggle in conversation because they don’t understand that others have the ability to read the underlying context in someone’s statement. When you compare instant gratification (which carries a negative connotation) with patiently teaching (implying kindness and femininity) you are implying that a woman who would prefer not to teach a middle aged man about sex is just being selfish rather than understanding that people do have to prioritize thei…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 03:13 PM
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100%!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 03:05 PM
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Ya that’s not perspective taking. If she doesn’t want to sacrifice her own happiness for him she must be a villain. Just like all women am I right?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 03:01 PM
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The fact that you cannot concede on some of these things kind of paints a picture you know? I had a teacher give me lunch detention once for correcting a mistake they made while they were teaching. I never raised my hand in that class again.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 02:59 PM
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You’re supposed to be an expert on teaching kids. Not a mathematician. Don’t get me wrong you should know your mathematical concepts but you’re main focus should be on how children learn best Disciplines tend to be integrated with each other in the real world and the science of learning will tell you that combining multiple disciplines creates more neurological connections in the brain and supports long term learning and improves critical thinking. Yea it’s important for you to understand their …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 02:57 PM
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You just said you and other teachers spend more time on boys than girls. Now you’re telling me it’s a mixed bag. Which is it
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 02:49 PM
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I’m not asking you to read a library but it would be more encouraging if your literal degree included information on the thing you specialize in. God bless the kids you teach
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 02:46 PM
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No it’s actually different and it should be. It’s literally called differentiation for a reason. It’s not about piling on work. It’s about finding the difference in the way people learn And different populations have different needs too.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 02:44 PM
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Wow. Ya no need to be knowledgeable about the education they received before coming to you right? You know that they are still NOT adults right? Even in secondary. You should know about brain development in adolescents
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 02:41 PM
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Which is exactly why they need a different approach? Like isn’t that exactly what this other person was saying? Boys are different and need different support
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 02:37 PM
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You don’t see why a woman wouldn’t want to patiently teach a middle aged man about sex? The answer to this question lies in the ability to take another persons perspective. Sexual satisfaction is a pretty important in a relationship don’t you think? Is it really fair to ask this question in a way that completely disregards the needs of one partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 02:35 PM
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I wouldn’t brag about being a teacher while sitting here on Reddit asking internet strangers to research brain development in adolescent boys, personally. You should probably already be well informed on this as someone who is responsible for effectively educating teens and young adults
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 02:32 PM
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And more men in teaching right? I totally agree with you. I read of boys and men this summer and I really liked his perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 02:26 PM
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Ohhhh that makes sense. You’re basing this on your anecdotal observations and not on anything you’ve actually read into
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 02:24 PM
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I’ve heard it suggested that boys should start one year later as I believe they’re between 1-2 years slower on development of social emotional skills. I always thought the real travesty when it comes to high school and middle school teachers is that’s hey hire people who want to BE teenagers and not people who are experts on teenagers and adolescent development
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 02:22 PM
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One of the big things that’s always over looked here is that this description gives us a pretty solid idea of the chances of her enjoying the sex. They arent great Men ask these kind of questions wrongly believing that most sex is pleasurable, like 90% chance of an orgasm easy. Not the case for women Would your question differ in anyway if you took into account that she is probably not going to actually orgasm when she engages in sex with this dude. Does the fact that she’s going to have to forg…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 02:08 PM
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Not a whole lot to argue with here tbh but to think a conversation on ethical practices in the industry or the culture forces that enforce objectification and misogyny can really happen with the kind of guys here is dreaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 01:54 PM
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great?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 09:31 PM
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Culture. People have ideas about people's place in society based on their gender. Women making money equivalent to men is fairly recent and cultural acceptance of this is going to take a minute to settle in.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 09:19 PM
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I don't care about porn as long as the people involved in creating it are being treated fairly. I'm not sure what you are asking here? I feel like you are happy to accept that pornography is a varied field but the true is same for people. Did you really forget that the biggest anti-porn people are religious? If you want to get down to it, I think that religion is the main factor in the vilification of porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 09:15 PM
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Ya I didn’t say it did. Again I’m not saying unreasonable things. You’re jumping to conclusions based on my vague explanations of how hormone balance and health are related.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 03:09 PM
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“Estrogen doesn’t affect acne!” “I’m a nurse!” Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 03:01 PM
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I haven’t said anything unreasonable. You just misinterpreted what I said. Healthy features like rosy cheeks, plump lips, shiny hair, and clear skin can be attributed to health. Diet and exercise are the best options for allowing your natural features to shine You’re worked up and calling names for no reason. I don’t think nursing is the profession for you. You seem like you get super excited about little things and then become verbally nasty. Is this how you treat your patients?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 02:51 PM
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Good stuff. You are obsessed with this lip thing and I pray to god you’re not a nurse. You misunderstood what I said. Went and informed yourself (probably for the first time ) about estrogen. And then came back and called me an idiot I might be an idiot but at least I’m not a hateful idiot. God help the people you treat
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 02:07 PM
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It’s hard to do research huh? The studies I was thinking of were from 2012 and 2011. This is exactly why I don’t do research for petulant children. If it’s not worth it to you to do it thoroughly then this information is useless to you anyway Look I don’t care about your journey regarding your knowledge of gender and biology. You don’t have to keep me updated
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 01:45 PM
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Which is why I try not to speak in absolutes. This is speaking on general results regarding your diet and your exercise …..she slowly explained to the REGISTERED NURSE
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 01:43 PM
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Duh but what I’m saying is that healthy people will have naturally enhanced features as long as their lifestyle doesn’t impact their hormone balance. Things like plump lips, shiny hair, and clear skin are indicative of health for a reason
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 01:27 PM
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Also it’s a matter of principle at this point I will never Reveal My Sources
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 01:24 PM
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No you don’t get it. I don’t have any interest in proving myself to you. I’m confident in my information but you are just some guy on Reddit demanding something from me because you think I owe it to you I promise knowledge is more rewarding when you do the work yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 01:20 PM
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I have some studies I’d like to link but they’re saved on my computer so it’ll have to wait but in the meantime if you’re interested in gender and biology a few of the books I found super interesting are “behave: the biology of humans at our best and worst” “the female brain” and while not exclusively about biology a really interesting book on both culture and biology is “of boys and men” All of these are free audiobooks on Spotify
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 01:19 PM
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It is in science by the way. But this isn’t college king. The majority of people on Reddit can’t even read a study properly anyway. Again I just can’t relate. I’ve never sat on my ass and waited for someone to bring me info about something I’m interested in learning about.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 01:05 PM
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Dude I can’t believe I have to argue with a registered nurse who doesn’t understand estrogen OR visceral fat. Again. What kind of nurse are you? What kind of practice are you registered for?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 01:02 PM
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I have a masters. Little boys on Reddit who can’t do their own research aren’t a concern of mine
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 12:46 PM
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Don’t worry, it wasn’t that important to me lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 12:43 PM
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Ya no it’s obviously much more complex than that. It’s kind of crazy to me that no one on this sub acknowledges subcultures of people for instance. Family dynamics, religion, etc. Are you specifically talking about online dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 05:19 AM
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No problem
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 05:04 AM
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Right but in my mind it was because someone with tattoos is probably not compatible with someone who doesn’t have them. It’s not a sexist thing it’s just those two people clearly don’t align anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 05:03 AM
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Dude you said “stop lying so people can’t insult you” That means that they are lying to avoid being insulted and that when they stop lying you’ll be able to insult them
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 05:00 AM
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Ohhh because you want women to say it so you can insult them? Does it make it easier for you to be angry at women when they’re honest?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 04:55 AM
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So it’s a perfect way to tell if you don’t wanna date a girl or not right off the bat. Win win
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 04:53 AM
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I’ll spread the word. Boys everywhere will receive this message of hope!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 04:51 AM
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Ya you must not read my comments. I literally left like 12 comments on a post today talking about how the biggest correlation between a woman’s likelihood to orgasm is a man’s attractiveness and masculinity. Women want attractive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 04:50 AM
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You cannot be a registered nurse and not understand how estrogen affects a woman’s body. What kind of nurse are you
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 04:47 AM
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I promise it wasn’t me. I think you’re funny. Oh and body hygiene can mean health. Just like sleep hygiene is in reference to proper sleeping habits. Tattoos I don’t care about
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 04:45 AM
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And all I have to do is stop denying this?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 04:44 AM
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No. When people have a thick middle it’s usually due to visceral fat which is cause by high sugar intake. The plumpness of a woman’s lips actually changes over the course of her cycle and lifetime as it’s largely controlled by estrogen levels. Plumpness in the lips can look different from person to person but it just means full rosy lips. It’s like how you can have a natural blush. Acne factors vary in everyone but some of them are hormonal which can be influenced by diet
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 04:44 AM
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What’s the 80/20 rule
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 04:39 AM
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Do you want me to see if they will call the police for you? I’d hate for you to clutch those pearls so hard that they snap off your neck
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 04:28 AM
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Yeah I swear it seems like it’s mainly entitlement that is getting in the way of both sexes. This kind of resentment based on a monstrous version of the opposite sex that rattles around in everyone’s head. I do think social media is reducing our ability to assess ourselves and others accurately
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 04:25 AM
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Hygiene, social awareness, self respect. Basically the same thing we tell men
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 04:23 AM
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And reality tells us that men and women are equally likely to be overweight. I think its all the processed food intake.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 04:17 AM
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implying you don't assign blame equally. You jump at the chance to rag on chicks but when it comes to men they are all poor little victims. Change into a skirt and your basically the same as the women who complain about how they can't find anyone decent because men are scum but excuse rampant childish behavior in other women. Two sides of the same coin dude. And neither brave enough to actually take that jagged pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 04:14 AM
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Well have you told the guys complaining on here about not being able to bag a broad your secret? Why you holding out huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 04:09 AM
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Yes, everyone is dumb but you. Way to face a hard truth there buddy
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 04:06 AM
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Yeah I guess I just never get angry at obesity. I definitely know people who are over weight and while I wish them health and happiness its no more my place to tell them to change their lifestyle than it is for me to push them to get a promotion at their job. Considering men and women are equally likely to be over weight in the US I really can't justify getting worked up over male obesity vs female obesity either. I also don't really get the anger in someone overhyping their value. I mean they a…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 03:59 AM
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Stupendous! Its working well I see.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 03:49 AM
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Modern men are obese too. So it seems like men telling men to lose weight and women telling women they look great result in the same exact outcome. How funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 03:46 AM
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All women like the same guys huh? Well I mean what are you going to do? Clearly our species is not diverse or varied in anyway. Luckily for you guys that means you can use the same exact strategies and talking points with every single one of us and it will go perfectly for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 03:43 AM
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Ya I see what you mean in a way but things like plump lips, clear skin, and shiny hair can be enhanced with proper diet which also controls waist to hip ratio. Height may not be controllable but considering most women prefer taller in relation to them there are certainly options. Also men can control their social emotional skills just like anyone can.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 03:41 AM
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No. If you need a source for "don't hate women if you want to be in a relationship with them" then nothing I link will help you. If you just want to be angry at women then its whatever. We all choose our own paths at the end of the day
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 03:35 AM
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For women? I mean it all ties into health at the end of the day. If you are a healthy person these traits will be reasonably present in most people.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 03:33 AM
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Ya there was no clear question but I will answer anyway. To get a healthy relationship a man has to be secure in his identity. Self-sufficient without deep seeded resentments towards the very person he wants admiration from. Obviously there's more but you can't get anywhere if you are exhausting yourself by constantly fighting battles in your head
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 03:31 AM
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So first, I'd like to know why you think I hate men? The 'encouraging' you think you're seeing is just me being blunt. Its not personal. You all say you want honesty and so I am always curious to see how being honest is received. If its received poorly I react to the individual. Not because they are men, just because the responded. As far as biology I don't know where you want me to start. There are a lot of different things to cover there.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 03:16 AM
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Please, I love men. That's why I'm so hard on you. lol The truth is I align with the idea that there are biological influences that are a reality which shouldn't be ignored. I think both men and women need to face harsh truths. Its just the rhetoric I keep seeing which made me switch. The last RP guys to say women were happier when they didn't have rights did it for me
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 03:07 AM
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Because the question of genuine vs malicious advice only makes sense if we can assume the person in question has the ability to recognize genuine advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 03:03 AM
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And while you sit here and fight WITH women better men are fighting FOR women. I wonder who will be successful. "Its so unfair that the women I hate don't see the value in me" You wouldn't recognize a high value woman if she fell in your lap. Your suspicious mind would be too busy sabotaging yourself for you to recognize the good in literally anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 03:01 AM
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While this is true there is also a phenomenon where a woman's mind can be all the stimulus we need. Its hard to explain but when I'm very into the sex and my partner is doing all the right things it does it for me no problem with just penetration. Its very intense though and it probably only happens like once a month and its like a whole body type of thing. It might be tied to my ovulation now that I think about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 02:58 AM
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I'm happily in a relationship and I can't get enough of this shit. Its very entertaining.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 02:53 AM
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Because the question in the post is a red herring. This guy could care less about any advice that's been offered. He's looking for commiseration with a touch of finger pointing. Its ok and all, we all do this but usually not with a group of strangers.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 02:46 AM
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Do you read what you type before you hit the comment button or is it all wild wild west style in that dome of yours? Thank goodness the sheriff of crazy town decided to give me rights!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 02:37 AM
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Men prefer clear skin, shiny hair, a hip to waist ration of .70, and indicators of fertility as influenced by estrogen such as plump lips, big eyes, narrow chin etc. Women tend to prefer men who are 4-6 inches taller than them, 2-4 years older, and with personality traits that signal confidence, intelligence (humor is the most obvious indicator), and patience.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 02:28 AM
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This is one of my favorite takes from you guys. It cracks me up. Its like a middle school boy who just found out he was stronger than his mom. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 02:13 AM
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What improvements do you think are the most common type needed among women who re struggling to date?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 01:57 AM
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And we’ve told you a hundred times, it’s not about improving yourself. It’s about looking at yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 01:30 AM
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Yes, young men and boys are being left behind. The very people who told them that masculinity is the problem provided no replacement. This is a major issue. But we need to keep an eye on this habit of lashing out at women. We are people too and regardless of how sympathetic the reason behind it we can’t be stupid enough to watch this resentment and hatred play out in the form of a witch hunt. Indulging in this rhetoric will have consequences. Young men are more likely to engage in risky and viol…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 01:29 AM
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Its the helplessness of it all. "Women don't like me but if you tell me to improve you're victimizing me!!!! What should I do?" It doesn't matter. You view women as villains in this scenario and that alone tells us what we need to know. The very women you're desperate to attain can see for miles that you have no interest in seeing in them what you are demanding they see in you. "Women's standards are too high!! aka I think women are less capable of rational thought than me and they must be inher…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 12:44 AM
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I can't muster a whole lot of sympathy for people who blame others completely for their situation. Man or woman, if you are so entrenched in a defeatist attitude there is nothing anyone can do. People have to decide that they are worth fighting for before anyone can make them believe it themselves. I see it a lot. Person A complains, person B offers advice. Person A ignores the advice in favor of focusing on someone else aka "the villain" who's fault this all is. Person B's advice falls flat on …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 12:32 AM
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Yes. If this is a woman's nature than so be it. You can compete or not but you decide at the end of the day. "Its all women's fault!" translates to "I am at the mercy of external forces and am not capable of taking care of myself or you". If you constantly cry that everyone else is to blame for your situation its clear that you have no substance. Why would a woman want to date someone who is always at the mercy of everything around them and cannot take responsibility for their choices and action…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 12:20 AM
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We don't know. We can tell the drowning man that the water is only waist high for so long but if he refuses to stand up there is nothing we can do about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 12:06 AM
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where does it go from reasonable self improve to just shifting blame on men? People in any given group have a certain responsibility to take care of themselves so others don't have to. You have a fundamental misunderstanding of the judgment women have for you. They aren't blaming you for your qualities, they are dismissing you as someone without potential because you are basing your personality and decisions on whatever comes your way. This complaint that you have, most often comes from people w…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 11:44 PM
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I gave you my advice already. Its about how secure in your masculinity you are. This is why all the 'self-improvement' stuff gets thrown around. If you have no 'place' anywhere, nothing to be proud of, nothing that you stand for, no sense of self, then you are more likely to be unpredictable and emotional, possibly even aggressive. Women sense that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 11:39 PM
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You know what he is going to say. 'Women's expectations are too high" Its all the same
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 11:32 PM
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Regardless of her expectations, if you come off needy and insecure its game over. A woman looks at a fragile ego and sees danger and deadweight.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 11:28 PM
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Its about finding your masculinity. Self-improvement is a generic advice thing because what it really is is very hard to put into words. From what I know and have based some of my opinions on; generally and very simplistically, women are biologically and culturally conditioned to look for strong, secure mates and that usually means men who are manly to put it reductively. If a man has no tether it is more likely that his insecurities drive his decisions and therefore he is not an optimal option.…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 11:21 PM
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So I think there are some good points here. Ultimately it comes down to owning the choice to approach someone. I personally don't think that its wrong for either men or women to cold approach. The thing is, this is a risk. Its a risk because you do not know this stranger and therefore when they act poorly its better to shrug your shoulders, whisper "you miss 100% of the shots you don't take" quietly to yourself, and accept that you decided to engage in the gamble. Being offended when people reac…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 11:10 PM
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Like I said. This info is useful to those who care and useless to those who don’t. The info is out there. Personally I’ve read up on it plenty and don’t relish the thought of having to walk a willful toddler through what I’ve learned over a period of time just to have them throw it on the ground because it’s not what they wanted to hear.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 10:27 PM
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You want to argue about something you didn't look into? Is that why you're so upset about me not spoon feeding you basic google searches? I don't care if you believe the science. You could be 12 racoons in a trench coat for all I know, its a waste of time trying to convince you of something you don't care about. If you don't like my info oh well.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 10:14 PM
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I'm not trying to change anyone's mind. I just threw information that I thought was interesting out there and guess what? People who think that sounds interesting will look it up. The onus isn't on anyone to do anything. This is reddit dude. What are you going to report me to the professor? You're laziness when it comes to academic research isn't something I am responsible for.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 10:10 PM
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ya. again how sad that your a helpless child who can't do the research yourself. Sad but not my problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 10:08 PM
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That last bit is pure gibberish, nowhere is that true. Its a shame there's no way for you to find out whether this is actually true or not. I'm not gonna sit here and try to convince you of something you're to lazy to look into yourself. I said what I said and I based it off information I have learned. I don't care what you do. If you don't want to do the work for yourself you don't get to be picky about info that's handed to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 10:06 PM
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meh. Sources don't do shit. If you are interested in the info you'll look it up. If you aren't you'll just deny the credibility of the source. I already put the work into learning the info by reading, seeking out sources, etc. Its not my job to repeat that process for someone else who is literally using a device that could look up the info in seconds.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 10:02 PM
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There is quite a bit of evidence suggesting that the female orgasm facilitates sperm retention. Also the hormones released during and after sex in both partners are what creates/strengthens bonding between the pair which increases the likelihood of relationship longevity.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 09:58 PM
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Whatever you say
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 09:07 PM
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This is true? What’s your point
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 09:06 PM
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Cowards turn women off. Guys who are fake nice come off as boot licking. Men who like and respect women in actuality are less likely to give off insecure energy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 08:47 PM
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Agreed!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 08:02 PM
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I first heard this statistic when reading “the female brain” this summer and it threw me for a bit of a loop too. It’s super interesting
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 07:51 PM
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There are studies out there and a lot of them that look at the interplay of female attraction, orgasm attainment, and how this all plays into mate selection
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 07:50 PM
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I didn’t make that up dude. There are studies on this. The biggest indicator that a woman will orgasm is a man’s masculinity and attractiveness. Look it up
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 07:33 PM
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Tell them this. The biggest correlation between a woman coming to orgasm is a man’s attractiveness. So ya, women are picky because they want to enjoy the sex
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 07:24 PM
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So you think people should have integrity. I'll inform the press.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 07:19 PM
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And the funniest part of that is they might as well be the same thing. Women don't get to cum every time they have sex. Why would a woman go out and have a ton of sex if most the time she walks away feeling unsatisfied?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 07:18 PM
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You wanna get down to brass tax? Women don't get to orgasm as much as men do. The likely hood of a man enjoying a sexual experience are way higher than a woman's. Why would she have sex with a dude who probably doesn't know how to make sure she enjoys herself? Would men be so happy to have sex if they only had a 10% chance of ejaculating? Its like playing with a dog and a ball. He is having a blast but just because he's having fun doesn't mean you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 07:15 PM
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A males attractiveness and masculinity are the biggest indicators that a female will orgasm
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 07:02 PM
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Is that what he is saying? A lot of this stuff blames women and paints the situation in a light that communicates evil intent This entire sub is filled with posts about how women must be inherently selfish, cruel, and stupid and their actions are only explainable through the lens that they are intentionally victimizing men. This guy isn't complaining about how we need better education when it comes to men and their sexual needs. Its pointing a finger at women and saying that this is somehow thei…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 07:00 PM
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I think its fair to acknowledge a biological drive for sex in men that increases his libido. A mans virility is a very good indicator of his over all health so the idea that men need sexual release (and quite frankly healthy sex education that doesn't make them feel ashamed about it) is valid. This need being met is where we start running into trouble. No one is entitled to another person's body no matter how strong of an urge you have.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 06:48 PM
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Clearly you have a firm grasp on reality. No notes here. Keep fighting the good fight.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 06:38 PM
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You got me. Expecting men and women to be equally responsible for the care of their children is clearly an evil plan concocted to subjugate the male masses. Stay safe out there king
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 04:43 PM
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Wow. You have trouble with complex thinking or something? Why would there not be exceptions for extreme cases like there is for everything else?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 03:46 PM
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But you’re not competing for any woman fighting with other women are you? That’s what I mean. You say men compete for women who are high value? Do you think men who are high value spend their time seeking out and picking at mothers? This is what’s redundant about this. The act of lashing out at women is a behavior that low value males do. This means that the value of a man who slinks around swiping at weaker people rather than competing with other men for the women who ARE high value doesn’t des…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 03:42 PM
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What the hell are you talking about? You think this would apply to rape cases of either gender? This solution is the fairest way to ensure equality. Now you’re spouting off about weird teacher tape cases? Why would you have a problem with 50/50 custody in the case of divorce or child born out of wedlock?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 02:11 PM
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Whatever you say.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 02:03 PM
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Then don’t fuck women you don’t trust. 50/50 custody would ensure that neither parent gets to weasel their way out of being responsible for the kid. And if you’re worried about paternity fraud then a paternity test would solve that problem. Easy. If you want to abolish no fault divorce then you should be fine criminalizing infidelity as well. We want to protect the bonds of marriage then a person should be allowed to prosecute an unfaithful partner
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 12:08 PM
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And here we find the exact issue with assigning malicious intent to what might be benign behavior. Whether they are trying to be harmful or not is ambiguous but you responding with malicious intent is not. Because you were to quick to assign evil to someone’s behavior you’ve allowed your own character to sully. You have compromised your value by assuming the worst and then lowering yourself to match it. So now what happens if they do lower their prices? Or if one of them was actually selling at …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 04:27 AM
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Debate what? You throwing a fit about the standards of someone you don't even want to date? You're throwing a tantrum to make yourself feel better. You're using your hurt feelings as an excuse to be shitty to women. There's nothing to debate here. There's nothing to respect or acknowledge about your post.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 03:56 AM
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Your comparison suggests an intentional and malicious motivation behind a woman having high standards. Its more like going to a street stall for ice cream and seeing that one vendor is charging outrageous prices and then being an asshole to all street vendors because of that one persons behavior. Ironically enough this behavior will create a cyclical phenomenon in the customers head. They will believe that all vendors are malicious scum but fail to realize that their hostility was the cause of t…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 03:54 AM
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Of course. What I am getting at here is that this type of criticism is rooted in frustration and humiliation. People have every right to be melancholy about a lack of success in dating but turning and insulting women who were not doing anything harmful or directed at him is behavior that should be called out. If someone trips and embarrasses themselves and they yell "fuck!". Its no big deal and totally relatable. If someone trips and they yell "Fuck you!" at the nearest, weakest bystander or kic…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 03:28 AM
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But again, this is a non-threat. Single moms having higher standards could be due to a host of factors but examining those is only useful if you want to date a single mom. Why be so worked up about the choosiness of a female you have no intention of getting into a relationship with?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 03:05 AM
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But it takes a special sort of man to hyperfocus on single moms when he doesn't want to date them. Its the incongruity of his behavior that is riling feathers, not that he is saying something that is true or not true. Why would a male deliberately seek out not just women but mothers to insult and criticize? Do you really think single mother's standards are inhibiting his ability to find a partner? How are the women he is focusing on creating enough of a threat to justify this kind of behavior?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 02:33 AM
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No need to explain yourself. I know WHY you're doing it. Low value males fear confrontation, especially with other males. It makes sense to me that you would seek out women online to harass and pick at.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 02:06 AM
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You can have an opinion. I'm just letting you know that it signals inferiority when you lash out needlessly at females and especially mothers. It makes me feel like your words on sexual market value are unreliable. How can someone accurately assess others when they are so blind to their own signaling
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 02:02 AM
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If I omitted a woman's role in infrastructure its due to brevity not intentional devaluation. Both men and women play crucial parts in the maintenance of infrastructure. We could talk about this for hours
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 01:18 AM
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They would survive, people are industrious and adaptable. But I think the sudden drop off would be very problematic. As far as men, believe it or not I think they would be in the worse off condition without women. Psychologically and biologically, women are pretty central to a man's 'purpose' for living. (in general obviously, the amount of men this DOES NOT apply to is still significant). When I think about the biological hardwiring and cultural conditioning centered around things like competit…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 12:38 AM
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That's certainly true but not on a scale that things would run in the complete absence of men. I can take both routes here. Feminist: Due to the fact that it is majorly men in power the design structure of many of these things are designed for men. Women would not only be less likely to have mastery over the maintenance of utility, electric, power, water, etc. due to systemic barriers in women being able to attain years of knowledge resulting from them being barred in tech and science until very…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 12:23 AM
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I think so. I certainly like having men around. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 12:14 AM
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Yeah.... We would not only lose the people currently doing the majority of this but also the knowledge of how to do it would be gone. It would be no good.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 12:13 AM
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Bears are actually extremely adapt at maintaining infrastructure if they are allowed the chance. I think what we would see is a shift from relying on man power to relying on bear power.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 12:12 AM
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Desperate people do counterintuitive things when they compensate for their shortcomings sometimes. Women might exaggerate their value which makes them seem proud/combative. This is counterintuitive in some respects because agreeableness and humility can be a sign of social intelligence and signaling otherwise can hurt the chances of making a connection. That being said, some men on this sub need to think about the fact that lashing out at 'weaker' individuals communicates insecurity and reduces …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 11:56 PM
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Either way, if she says she's rather be alone than with someone she doesn't like it doesn't impact you at all. Its like you being angry that I chose to skip breakfast instead of eat cereal. Her standards don't impact you. Why are you fighting with imaginary women? Do you think this is the behavior of a high value man?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 11:39 PM
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Its a delicate balance between maintaining your ego and being realistic about your situation. For instance, there is a tendency for some men to fight with women about what their standards are rather than competing with other men in order to gain access to the type of woman they truly want. This inherent fear of competition is precisely what drives their inability to find a partner but if you try to point that out they will scoff. High value men don't spend time angrily lashing out at single moms…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 11:36 PM
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so she's better off alone.... like they said
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 11:20 PM
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ok so why do you care what her standards are? I mean specifically for a single mom. She's probably going to have wildly different reasons for her standards than someone who isn't the head of a household.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 11:11 PM
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That's cool, tell me more. What class was it for? Can you give me a summary?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 11:10 PM
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But it's very common for women to become single moms and then say "I'm raising my standards now, no more X" But sorry babe, it doesn't work that way. You just lowered your value, now you should be lowering your standards. This reads like someone who just got turned down by a single mom. If not then I don't understand why we are trying to convince single moms to lower their standards when they have a kid to consider. If anything their standards should be high because of their responsibility to th…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 11:07 PM
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And here we actually come to an impasse. You're view of Black American culture is so narrow (despite 'reading' all those books) that you need me to explain the positive aspects of the culture to you before we can even get to the problem with treating a symptom instead of the root cause. If you really can't see any value in the culture you're criticizing then it is what it is. You are good. They are bad. No need to think about it any further. I recommend you actually read the books you cited. I t…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 10:56 PM
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I believe these things make a difference by how its celebrated in the culture and the quickest change can be made by that culture itself, I would think. This is only the belief of someone who has a shallow understanding of black American culture and culture in general. You do realize there are good things about black culture right? By reducing black culture to the worst parts without any consideration of the external factors that influenced those negative parts you've justified wiping everything…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 10:38 PM
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Only those who cut off their clits, are successful there. It never fails to amazing me how people are so confident in rattling off something they half remember hearing once as cold hard facts. I don't care if you get married or not. I'm just pointing out the self-handicapping. At the end of the day I hope you are able to find fulfillment whether its finding someone who makes you happy or finding yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 10:30 PM
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Nice argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 10:08 PM
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Sterling Stuckey emphasizes that the legacy of slavery and systemic oppression has created socio-economic conditions that contribute to higher crime rates, not inherent cultural deficiencies. Thomas Sowell argues that behaviors associated with Black communities are actually rooted in the Southern "redneck" culture adopted by both Blacks and Whites in the South and that these behaviors aren't related to Black culture but instead to socio-economic environment. Adrian Raine argues that biological p…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 10:07 PM
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I think its because we weigh our reality against an artificial version of social interactions instead of challenging those ideas in real world scenarios. Talking to people face to face activates social-emotional parts of your brain which forces you to think critically about your viewpoints in relation to others perspectives but in an online world we rely on our own egos to fill the gaps that are lacking compared to in-person interactions. This might make talking to people online be more similar …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 09:55 PM
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I wanna see how far you will go to keep pretending you read those books. C'mon. One thing. Just one thing from those authors that helped you come up with your standpoint.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 09:42 PM
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So you can't cite which source you're basing your opinion on. Is it because you didn't read them or is it because you didn't read them?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 09:39 PM
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I mean you're the one who can't cite your sources. I'm still waiting for you to back up your original comment on black culture being the problem with specific information from the books you've 'read' but you keep getting side tracked with insults
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 09:36 PM
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My only goal at this point is provoking you into making a bigger and bigger ass out of yourself as you attempt to bluff your way into representing yourself as an educated philosopher instead of admitting your comment was short-sighted
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 09:30 PM
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Ok so you didn't read them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 09:23 PM
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The most hilarious part is this guy says his opinion is based on these books Slave culture by sterling stuckley Black rednecks and white liberals by thomas Sowell Migrations and cultures by Thomas Sowell The Anatomy of Violence: The Biological Roots of Crime by Adriane raine
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 09:22 PM
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You are so smart and well read. Please tell me which part of these books informed your decision to make this comment? Nah theres plenty of populations that live in poverty that have no where near the same crime rate as many african American communities do. Its black culture that's the problem. Exactly which author/book attributes crime rates in black communities solely to black culture?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 09:15 PM
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And yet someone with an optimistic view will be the one to find what you believe doesn't exist. One of the biggest mistakes we make is attributing our decisions to external factors instead of our own intentional action.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 09:00 PM
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This is a bit of a forehead slap moment here, you know that? All of these books look at the various factors involved in the differences in crime rates. The authors literally warn people against quickly attributing things to race when there is a cacophony of factors at play. "The Anatomy of Violence" talks about how biology and environment interact and how that impacts communities. Biological influences in this book are not categorized by race because that would be ridiculous. Genetic variation c…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 08:55 PM
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Which books that you have read do you recommend?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 08:40 PM
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I always love when people lean so hard into their argument that they end up arguing against their original point. Nah theres plenty of populations that live in poverty that have no where near the same crime rate as many african American communities do. Its black culture that's the problem. Walk me through how paying lip service to a subject you feel you know something about impacts ethnic groups again
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 08:35 PM
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Shush. You are way to emotional about this. Insult me all you want but you said this is a black culture problem. I am simply telling you that you cannot attribute this solely to race when there are clearly other factors at play that influence outcomes. Its kind of funny to me that you're really leaning into this weird "you don't care about black people thing" lol I don't know why you think I have to be some sort of activist in order to rationally consider the factors that produce an imbalance in…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 08:26 PM
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Ya ideally the dual parent household should be the option but we cannot regulate that without infringing on personal rights. At the end of the day you can cite all the negative statistics you want but nothing comes free and the good stuff ain't cheap. Bad things might happen. But good things might happen too. You have to risk exposure to the bad things if you want the good things. Or you can avoid both. One of the biggest factors in all of this is how much you trust yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 08:00 PM
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No. Sorry again the fact that it is inconceivable to you that policing rates, conviction rates, investment in social infrastructure, variations in policy implementation, allocation of funding to different areas, etc. might possibly play a role even though the objective level of poverty is similar means you don't actually care about what's right, you just care about what makes you feel good. That's ok too. I don't care what you tell yourself just don't pass it off as an fact when its an ego drive…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 07:56 PM
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Mandatory 50/50 custody is the best solution. If someone has a kid they are responsible for raising it. Period. No more child support. Half of the year the kid goes to the dad the other half the mom. Whether that's split up on a month by month, week by week, or mixed option would be something people can determine on an individual basis.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 07:51 PM
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i didn't even read what you said sorry. You don't know what you're talking about and there's zero chance you will ever look into it because it makes you feel good about yourself to believe your own narrative
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 07:42 PM
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We should completely do away with child support and mandate 50/50 custody only barring situations that would endanger the child. I don't think any person should have a kid and be allowed to excuse themselves from being actively involved in raising the tiny human. Expenses paid regarding strictly essential childcare costs should be recorded and calculated at the end of the year and if one parent paid significantly more than the other they should be compensated by the parent who paid less. Obvious…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 07:41 PM
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You're doing exactly what they are talking about. You see a pattern and attribute it to an easily identifiable aspect (race) because examining the factors that may influence this phenomena is too difficult and time consuming. If its not worth your time to look into the variables that play a role in this imbalance then its also disingenuous for you to state you opinion as a fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 07:29 PM
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I agree wholly. I think we all sense that creeping doom.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 03:49 AM
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I think our technological innovations have and will continue to outpace our morality. People are a risk taking animal but I do find solace in the fact that our chaos and depravity finds its match in our innovation and humanity. If we can survive this tool we have created I believe we will do great things with it. But in the process we will see horrors too. I guess that's growth for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 03:26 AM
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I share your frustration there. Its like we take this amazing tool for communication and enlightenment and use it like a toy for entertainment, ultimately ruining its ability to fulfil its purpose.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 03:20 AM
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This makes a lot of sense. For instance I'm all for equality between the sexes but feminism is hurting boys and men who are economically disadvantaged disproportionately but those in higher classes don't see or acknowledge this because of the economic benefits they are receiving. Any attempt to point this out will result in a backlach that assumes you are the enemy of equality and women and zero solutions are created. When we focus too hard on one thing we become blind in other ways. The more ra…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 03:18 AM
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I don't think people in general think deeply enough about their own philosophies before they engage in debate and that's what leads to the breakdown in communication. The real problem is with the concept of arguing/debating/discussing or whatever. Having a discussion shouldn't have an end goal rooted in converting others to your viewpoint. But talking to someone with a different perspective should absolutely make you think more deeply about your own stance. Discussions like this should be a proc…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 03:11 AM
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Patriarchy just means male head of family. The concept when referenced here has to do with the idea that its mainly men who hold economic and political power.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 02:59 AM
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Sounds like you know a lot. I guess the fact that these countries have taken steps to provide rights to women is just a fluke.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 02:42 AM
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Funny how both of those countries have recently started expanding the rights of women and how it correlates with their ability to diversify and grow economically.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 02:36 AM
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So go ahead. Tell me about all the countries that restrict the rights of women and their recent technological advancements. Police specifically benefit from having women on the force because they are more effective when dealing with victims, better at de-escalation, and provide a less threatening presence during emergency situations meaning children and women are more likely to seek them out when there is an issue. Men and women both have masculine and feminine roles to play in a lot of differen…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 02:31 AM
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I think its funny that you had to dig in the past to find a scenario in which the oppression of women co-aligns with technological advances. It shows how outdated and unsustainable your way of thinking is
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 02:19 AM
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Why
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 02:17 AM
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I think this answer suits you
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 02:08 AM
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I'm still waiting on my list of counties that are thriving economically and technologically and oppressing women at the same time. How about that for not pointing to a single woman? Tell me about the collective impact instead then.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 02:05 AM
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I think his views on communication might be interesting but I don't think I would ever sit and read one of his books. I'm not the "read what philosophers said 100 years ago" type of person partially because women were excluded from conversations regarding philosophy and morality until recently so older theories are usually discussed in a bubble that applies only to men. People have expanded on these ideas and have a better grasp on the humanities in this day and age but that's just my opinion. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 01:52 AM
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People are just people. Then we add cultural and genetic influences which impact people to various degrees. This is reductive for the sake of engaging in reddit posts but the biological drive for reproduction has created a very interesting pattern for human behavior in any given environment. We can neither excuse ourselves from our biology nor allow ourselves to become slaves to it. But the degree to which this applies to individuals is going to look wildly different from person to person
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 01:34 AM
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Well said!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 01:21 AM
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I would be ok being in a harem of a worthy man if that's what our culture called for. I can't think of anything more admirable than a man who is able to protect and provide for multiple women. Our culture does not call for that however and a man who desperately begs to be released from the expectations of his culture in order to satisfy his own wants is a weak man indeed. As far as rights go I can see exactly why you would want them taken away from us. A man like you cannot compete with women. M…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 12:37 AM
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Ya, these guys will never get it. They spend all this time desperately trying to find the culprit for their inadequacies because they're too afraid to look in a mirror
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 12:26 AM
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You stand in the midst of a society that benefits from the shared contribution of a free and independent populace. Lets do a little thought experiment. Find me a country where women are not allowed to contribute to the sciences and industry and tell me about how they are pumping out innovations like the internet or cell phones. Go ahead. Since its only thanks to men that we have these things, countries where women are oppressed should be producing the same right? List them off, Ill wait.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 12:25 AM
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