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I regret mine. I had one almost 2 years ago and just had it reversed. I had mild aches on and off every day since. Like I got hit in the balls 5 minutes ago. It wasn't severe and would come and go a few times a day. If needs Advil would usually suppress it. I also notice a change in orgasms - not as satisfying as before (although still enjoyable) and there wasn't as much "propulsion" - more of a dribble. I agreed to get one thinking I'd never be able to tell a difference after a few days. That d…
/r/askTRP04/04/17 06:47 PM
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I had one last year - have mild aches every day. Not so severe that it's messing with my life but definitely a nuisance. My urologist said its likely permanent but we're trying some medicines at the moment. I've read that my type of complaint can happen in up to 30 percent of men (not to be confused with severe pain that occurs in less than 5%). Personally I regret the decision - was on the fence and wish I hadn't.
/r/MGTOW30/08/16 01:36 AM
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That sub really needs to revise its demographic - every week it seems a guy either gets shut down or will find himself getting torn up by what he thought was an an objective audience. Maybe something along the lines of "relationships from a feminist perspective". Plus that body rights issue is like a lighting rod. There was a post there a couple weeks ago about why a guy was a sleaze for not getting a vasectomy at his wife's urging - hardly anyone felt his wife was wrong for wanting some control…
/r/MensRights14/06/16 07:20 PM
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There are so many references to the risks women's various options have and I bet most of those are lower than 20 percent.
/r/MensRights07/06/16 04:24 AM
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This topic on that sub is a lightning rod. I didn't think the OP was being irrational or anything but, based on the majority of comments you would think he's fighting her right to an abortion or something. It's insane. Further his science isn't wrong or exaggerated.
/r/MensRights07/06/16 03:47 AM
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Yeah. Had one already - wish I had waited as I have some long term discomfort from mine. Apparently the vasalgel will reduce or eliminate post vasectomy pain issues. If this is as easy as they say it will really change things for men.
/r/MensRights03/05/16 10:50 PM
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As I understand it, RISUG / vasalgel reduces and eliminates the risk for back pressure. It allows the sperm to pass through - they just can't swim anymore and are otherwise dead. It's the back pressure that causes the post vasectomy pain syndrome. Also, it will avoid all of the changes your body has to make to adjust to having the vas severed (see http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/j.1939-4640.2003.tb02675.x/full) - not good if you can avoid it. I had a vasectomy last year and still get …
/r/MGTOW11/04/16 07:46 PM
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It's a crappy approach. Nothing wrong with asking a spouse but expecting him to do it because she gave birth isn't appropriate logic. The effects of birth are hard but it's a necessary and biological process. Forcing him to mess with his reproductive system in an unnatural way is different. Men have a higher roam for long term complications from vasectomies than women do from rivals but no one seems consider that. Vasectomies have been sold as an inconsequential, simple procedure that men owe to…
/r/MensRights15/02/16 06:54 PM
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I hope so. I might not have been giving him enough credit.
/r/MensRights17/10/15 04:35 AM
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And now the post is locked and the OP removed his story (or it was removed for him).
/r/MensRights16/10/15 06:26 PM
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It's that demographic. If this were in a different sub he would have had a more level discussion. That sub, however, needs a new description.
/r/MensRights29/09/15 01:40 AM
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Last I saw maybe as early as 2018 but it always seems to be a few years away.
/r/MensRights29/09/15 12:06 AM
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Not to mention it was locked up. Maybe that was to stop he bleeding but regardless. The guy was responding at least. I love where someone said he needs therapy because he doesn't want to get a vasectomy.
/r/MensRights29/09/15 12:05 AM
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Sure they can be reversed but it will never be the same as before. Scar tissue, loss of a few cms of vas or tube, risk of nerve damage etc.
/r/MensRights29/09/15 12:02 AM
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You have a fair point. I never pushed or advocated for my wife to have a tubal for the same reasons I didn't want a vasectomy. Rather, she was of the opinion that after all she had burdened (childbirth and 3 years of IUD it was my turn). I'm not trying to dissuade or influence men or women on sterilization but I am firmly of the belief that no one owes it to their spouse. It should only be done voluntarily and without pressure or guilt. I think at the end both procedures aren't ideal and really …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/15 05:42 AM
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If you're keeping a tally of sacrifices made between spouses (regardless of whether that's healthy for a relationship) I suppose there is some basis for suggesting a vasectomy should take precedent over a tubal. However, I think it's misplaced to view the vasectomy as the preferable option from a medical perspective or that a man somehow owes it to his wife. First, both a tubal and vasectomy are relatively minor procedures. Both are typically outpatient procedures and both have roughly the same …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/15 07:10 PM
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Sounds like you've resolved your issue but here are my two cents. First, I caved to pressure from my wife to get one, and later learned her friends were very involved in the decision making process and her view on it - something she lied about repeatedly (that's a whole other issue). She wasn't too interested in having a tubal right after our last child was born because she didn't know if she wanted to try to have a third. When we later decided we were done, she looked at is though her only prac…
/r/MarriedRedPill19/08/15 07:10 PM
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Thanks. I'm definitely not getting the rest I should - averaging about 5 to 6 hours a night. I plan to give it another 3 or 4 months before making any decisions.
/r/TheRedPill20/07/15 07:22 PM
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Had one about 9 weeks ago. Still having residual aching. Also aches more after sex on one side. It's not debilitating pain but I have to stay on Advil all day to keep it under control and still have to use compression shorts or jock straps. It is gradually improving but if it doesn't go away I'll probably get a reversal. The urologist said some men take up to 12 weeks to heal due to the level of trauma associated with the surgery. It definitely hasn't been the walk in the park that others have e…
/r/TheRedPill20/07/15 06:37 PM
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I thought the same thing!
/r/MensRights19/06/15 03:25 AM
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Do you have links to the NHS pages? I'd be interested to compare them? Here's the link to the post you're referencing: http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/37t6w1/the_vasectomy_double_standard_society_doesnt/
/r/MensRights18/06/15 07:10 PM
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Good points. I think when pressure or resentment comes from a spouse regarding a husband owing a vasectomy it sets things down an unfortunate path. You're kind of damned if you do (man has resentment, regret, relationship suffers) or damned if you don't (women has resentment, relationship suffers). If you respect your partner they should have the freedom to say no (or yes) without fear of consequences.
/r/MensRights16/06/15 03:33 AM
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There are ton of men that are proud of their vasectomies and say it's the best decision ever. More power to them. Many seem to be on childfree.
/r/MensRights16/06/15 03:30 AM
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I've read about the permission issue - seems to vary by state. I didn't have to get permission. The vasectomy is an easier procedure but I believe it has more significant long term risks once the procedure is completed. That's something that get unduly wrapped into the whole safe and simple argument.
/r/MensRights16/06/15 03:29 AM
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It is. I've posted a lot on vasectomies and whenever I suggest that the tubal is equivalent to a vasectomy or that it's not as simple as women think, I get a a lot of push back. The exception being this sub (obviously). Look, we all agree that men don't have many options - it's either condoms or a vasectomy (vasalgel seems like a unicorn at this point). That doesn't change the fact that women have multiple, non-permanent and reversible birth control options at their finger tips. This includes va…
/r/MensRights16/06/15 03:28 AM
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Yep. I think it's fine to ask a man to look into it but there should be no expectation or obligation.
/r/MensRights16/06/15 03:23 AM
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I think the problem is that every women's magazine, website or daytime talk show drills into women that a vasectomy is simple and that the once a man gets through the immediate discomfort of the surgery he'll never know the difference. So all these women go around thinking that it's no worse than having a mole removed or getting a root canal - something that may be uncomfortable in the short term only. In most instances, the women never bother to look into the actual procedure and instead just a…
/r/MensRights16/06/15 03:22 AM
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You're right about the group mentality. It's all support from the friends and nothing is ever viewed objectively. So your wife did this on a forum - do you know about in person with friends. It's easier to evaluate in a written setting. I guess you just have to trust that it applies that same in person.
/r/MensRights02/06/15 07:36 PM
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A little late in responding on this - you suggested counseling. Have you had any experience with that? Was it beneficial? I've had couple friends that went that route and it really wasn't helpful. Plus, I don't know that my wife would agree to it. I can't see it helping much if it's just me.
/r/MensRights02/06/15 07:33 PM
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In follow up to this - you recommended counseling if things don't improve. Have you been through counseling? I've heard mixed reviews as to its effectiveness.
/r/MensRights02/06/15 07:31 PM
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nothing to do but move forward ... and rant about some of the crazy feminists on reddit.
/r/MensRights02/06/15 03:19 AM
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Thanks. The biggest part was lying on the way there, texting about it to her friends while she's lying and then the willingness to keep me in the dark. You're right that if that hadn't happened I wouldn't be second guessing the decision nearly as much. It just makes me feel like a pawn in a bigger scheme. Anyway, not much to do about it now except move forward and work out the issue.
/r/MensRights31/05/15 07:22 PM
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The second link in the OP has the full text. If it's not working for whatever reason I'll send it directly.
/r/MensRights31/05/15 06:53 PM
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Your spouse is supposed to be the one person you can be fully and freely open with. If my insecurities and concerns make me an asshole the fact that my wife should be the only one I speak with about those "asshole" feelings should be respected between caring spouses. It wasn't here. Further, her friends mocked me saying I needed "courage" and was going to "bail" on my obligation. She in turn, described my panic attacks and cold sweats the morning of and described me as sad. Even if she's right, …
/r/MensRights31/05/15 04:48 AM
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I really hope this isn't true.
/r/MensRights31/05/15 04:40 AM
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I had two big concerns about the vasectomy: (1) everything worked great and why mess with something that's not broken? My wife and my family seem to always fall into the rare subset of people that experience the rare side effects of medicine or medical treatment. (2) the incidence of post vasectomy pain syndrome ranges up to 30 percent depending on the study. Even if it's only 5 percent, the fact that it is sometimes irreversible even if a vasectomy reversal is done scared me. Sex is and was tre…
/r/MensRights31/05/15 04:39 AM
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If she didn't want two kids, she shouldn't have had two kids. If she didn't want to, did anyway, and then is using it against you later to try and get you to do things you don't necessarily want to do? That's emotionally abusive. I agree but acknowledge that pregnancy is difficult and alters a body. In hindsight, and given the ongoing and intentional lie regarding my request for privacy, I think she unfairly used this as a leverage. Regarding the fact that you felt like you "made no sacrifices" …
/r/MensRights31/05/15 04:29 AM
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I did appreciate the sacrifice and commitment and made the decision with the belief that we had reached a decision objectively, between spouses. It was the lie about the privacy request and admission that she continued the lie to make sure I went through with the procedure that tainted the decision. I had the right to know and make a decision with full information, not on a need to know basis. For example, she could have just lied to her friends about it - it was more important to save face with…
/r/MensRights31/05/15 04:04 AM
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Exactly. On big decisions like this it's a joint decision that is hopefully reached objectively without outside influence. We're working through it but it's not easy. I'm certain if the situation were reversed I would be one of the reviled persons on reddit for pressuring and manipulating a women. Instead, I got slammed for being upset that someone manipulated a situation and disregarded requests for privacy to get me to permanently alter my body.
/r/MensRights31/05/15 03:58 AM
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well put - thank you for the advice.
/r/MensRights31/05/15 03:52 AM
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I've been faithful and always will be but her parents had infidelity and it's really impacted her. However, because of the premium she placed on honesty I was completely blindsided by her lies. At the end of the day, my wife and her friends just felt that the procedure was insignificant (almost like getting a mole removed) and therefore wasn't valued.
/r/MensRights30/05/15 08:44 PM
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This was an eye opening thing as to the manipulation. At the end hopefully we'll work through it and will have a stronger relationship. It ties in, however, to the what men are expected to do and what women are free to say no to. Regardless of whether I'm being irrational about the vasectomy itself and/or the request for privacy, it's a personal issue. If it were some neutral procedure and not a reproductive rights thing I''m fairly certain there would be much more sympathy for my position.
/r/MensRights30/05/15 08:41 PM
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Pretty much on point. It was the admission that she lied because she thought I would back out that undermined my decision. Gossip is the issue and I've realized its much more pervasive than I ever expected. As it relates to the vasectomy issue though, she's confirmed that her friends thought I owed it to her and that it was nothing compared to what women go through. We discussed it repeatedly and she had much more moral support than I did, since I kept it between us. I truly believed that we had…
/r/MensRights30/05/15 05:44 AM
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She had tried the non-hormonal one for about 2 years. She tolerated it but didn't want to go through it again. In hindsight I shouldn't have given in to the guilt trip. Vasalgel seems like a unicorn - if it ever comes to fruition it will be a game changer. I would have done it with no reservations.
/r/MensRights30/05/15 05:30 AM
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Statistically, you're right - tubals are more common than vasectomies. My wife was very certain that I owed it to her (and I later learned that all her colleagues agreed despite her promises that this was a private issue and decision). My scenario certainly wasn't typical but I was shocked by the backlash I received in comments in my original post. I'm sure that if it was something I independently wanted I would feel differently.
/r/MensRights30/05/15 05:14 AM
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