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1	If paternity fraud was considered a serious crime and the mother was made to pay. How about a tattoo? Something that clearly identifies the person as having committed paternity fraud. Very low cost to the state and would be a clear indicator to everyone, including new partners, about past behaviour. A bit like those AWDTSG websites where guys are effectively black-listed. The lifelong stigma from the tattoo would probably be a bit of a downer, I suppose. Kind of like finding out your dad wasn't your dad...?	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/06/25 01:36 AM
–	Night clubs, frats and similar spaces are widely criticized for their danger to women. Men that occupy these spaces are almost always the perpetrators. How do these spaces continue to draw women? Why do women-only versions remain unpopular? Good point, agreed. That's why any outgroup person that came to a community was treated with suspicion or worse	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/25 11:39 PM
3	Night clubs, frats and similar spaces are widely criticized for their danger to women. Men that occupy these spaces are almost always the perpetrators. How do these spaces continue to draw women? Why do women-only versions remain unpopular? Yes, men can point out the predator and many generations ago we lived in a time where groups of men would actively exclude predators from their groups, sometimes permanently. However, we now live in a time where 1) we've abrogated this role to the state and can be severely punished if we transgress laws while keeping communities safe, and 2) women love fucking dangerous guys. Charles Manson, in prison, gets more pussy than 30% of young men today. It's not so much about "women...won't/don't put i…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/01/25 08:20 PM
–	The "If she did it with an ex, she should do it with me" rule applies to pegging Nope again :-) Red-pill rule is not what you've suggested. Red-pill understanding is more like what I've outlined: If your girlfriend's previous lovers got more than you it's because she had to work harder for their initial or ongoing attention. Or, they were just hotter so that made it appealing. TBH it's usually the second one first, and the first one second. Hot guys get dirty sex. If you're a guy and you want dirty sex, be hot or be working on getting hotter. That is, women (and men) make ru…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/01/25 08:12 PM
1	why won't women engage with men? LOL - this is a classic pick up artist theme. "She knows in the first 30 seconds if she would, and the rest of the conversation is when she decides if she will or she won't (and under what conditions)". I'm around a lot of singles events and it's truly sad how many guys can't read the signals of disinterest. Worse, because humans are social/group creatures, the negative vibes from one woman toward a particular guy move faster around the group than the guy can move around the group. As to your po…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/01/25 08:24 AM
1	The "If she did it with an ex, she should do it with me" rule applies to pegging Nope, your "rule", including the words "must" and "necessary" and "devalue", are a smokescreen for the baseline conversation on which you created your example. Unless you really DO want to create a debate on the idea that once something is done in one relationship, it MUST always be done in other relationships... like... perhaps... my partner once went skiing with an ex so now they must also go skiing with me even though I don't want to go skiing... (do I have to take my partner skiing? If I don…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/01/25 07:20 AM
32	Night clubs, frats and similar spaces are widely criticized for their danger to women. Men that occupy these spaces are almost always the perpetrators. How do these spaces continue to draw women? Why do women-only versions remain unpopular? A frat party (and big nightclubs) are a "safe danger" and that's a big part of what makes them fun. Lots of young horny men giving women attention, plus alcohol and social licence for libidinous behaviour, in a controlled location, is absolute catnip for young women. And young women are catnip for men. For the female only space, if there's no men providing attention you will have a different dynamic. Not a worse or better one, but different. That's probably why the pop-up female only events are …	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/01/25 06:29 AM
1	The "If she did it with an ex, she should do it with me" rule applies to pegging LOL, I think you've got this completely the wrong way around. Pegging has clear passive and active roles so the only way your metaphor works is: - she wants to peg him, he's done it with others, and he doesn't want to let her do it to him - he wants her to peg him, she's done it with others, but she doesn't want to do it to him Same as regular butt stuff: the person who has the hole makes the rules. Your comment about an act or behaviour being "necessary for a relationship" is a red herring. You…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/01/25 05:49 AM
15	Bechdel like test to stop stereotyping men in tv shows and movies. Just developed it. Someone somewhere also proposed a reverse Bechdel test that is more attuned to how male characters are portrayed in current media. Like the original Bechdel test it focuses on the movie not the character. Read it out to people and watch them struggle to think of a recent main stream movie that will pass the test. 1: movie has to have at least one named male character... 2: ...who is competent, moral, and masculine... 3: ...with no gratuitous belittling or domination of male characters by a femal…	/r/MensRights	24/07/24 07:47 AM
2	I don't like how women try to control speech rather than discuss the topic at hand. My wife focuses more on what words I use and refuses to understand that men have an objectively scientifically verifiable different experience going through life. yeah, this is accurate :-)	/r/MensRights	02/12/23 07:25 PM
1	I don't like how women try to control speech rather than discuss the topic at hand. My wife focuses more on what words I use and refuses to understand that men have an objectively scientifically verifiable different experience going through life. Your wife is shifting the frame of the argument from what the argument is about (the topic) to something she feels better equipped to 'win' (how she feels about the words used in the argument). Why does she do this? Because it works. Why does it work? Because you let it. If you can see this happening and don't like it it's your job to not allow it to happen, especially if you want to keep the focus of the conversation (argument?) on the facts and details rather than on her emotions. Because if t…	/r/MensRights	02/12/23 07:20 PM
2	What about Men? Noted Feminist who made a career writing about women, is now as worried about men. Took me a while to find it, but she also claimed that if a man is falsely accused of a particular crime so the other person can protect their reputation, that's the man's fault: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/09/24/magazine/caitlin-moran-interview.html “There’s a sentence in the new book that I was curious about, and this goes back to the questions about the trickiness of generalizing and of using a certain kind of rhetorical style: You’re discussing the rarity of false accusations of …	/r/MensRights	02/12/23 02:22 AM
2	What about Men? Noted Feminist who made a career writing about women, is now as worried about men. Don't be so happy: https://unherd.com/2023/07/what-does-caitlin-moran-know-about-men/ There are better people than Caitlin Moran writing about these issues, who are better writers, and don't have a track record of shitting on men for money.	/r/MensRights	02/12/23 02:12 AM
1	We still support you thanks for the clarification - no harm, no foul.	/r/MensRights	20/02/23 09:56 PM
5	We still support you Must be a troll: "...handsome...we got you...": but if you're not handsome we don't got you "...hardworking...we got you...": your personal 'beast of burden' approach and overall utility to keeping society running is what gets you my attention. If you're not working and being useful, no good feelings for you So, empathy and basic human dignity must be earned through looks or effort. If you have neither looks nor sweat, then there's no attention support, sympathy, and belief. If, on the other han…	/r/MensRights	19/02/23 08:23 PM
7	Woman Fails Her Audit "I told him 1,000 times what I wanted him to believe". "I told him 1,000 times what I thought would make him happy" "I told him 1,000 times the words that would make my a lie of my past actions and decisions" Love this story, love that the guy is obviously redpilled AND had the courage to honestly know how she saw him, AND then protect himself by noping out of there.	/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen	28/01/23 02:27 AM
1	What are some counter-arguments to this feminist idea This is one of those arguments that's like playing chess with a five year old: they can see what they're going to do, but they have no concept of the fact that the person they're playing isn't going to blindly follow along and let them win. It's like a teenage boy dreaming of a world where he was really a fifth level mage and could fight dragons... The argument is inviting you to compete with them in the structure they've created, and that structure is reductive: you (as a man, and one of a grou…	/r/MensRights	22/01/23 10:59 PM
28	Anyone else notice in that "Men" movie that the husband with mental issues kills himself from them, and the focus is on the wife? Yeah, not so fast. In the movie she made it pretty clear that she wasn't certain whether he jumped or "fell trying to climb onto our balcony". They pulled out all the stops to make him look like an asshole while he was alive (which makes us sympathetic to her) but then make her ridden with guilt about whether he jumped or fell (trying to make her angst a source for our sympathy). It was a balancing act to make it uncertain, because if he definitely jumped then we have a specific emotional tone f…	/r/MensRights	15/09/22 07:21 AM
2	How to deal with someone who hates you You can also re-frame your expectations and decide to have an extremely fun year. This guy is likely to be a carnival of opportunities to have his ideological hypocrisies laid out in front of him. If you simply live your life without anger or apology, engage with him as a fellow human rather than useful stereotype, and treat any contempt or goading with good-natured curiosity (tinged with pity, of course), you can also treat this as a learning opportunity. I recall with great fondness my years a…	/r/MensRights	18/08/22 02:38 AM
5	Misogyny and Misandry You can tell them that misandry is a perfectly natural form of in-group/out-group signalling, the type of signalling we do all the time as a species. However, misandry is the current socially sanctioned bigotry which is why we see so much of it uttered without shame or consideration for the human value of the people being slandered. It's the modern day equivalent of being an overt racist. In our recent memories it was socially acceptable to publicly denigrate entire groups of people based on r…	/r/MensRights	18/08/22 02:01 AM
9	When someone is debating over financial abortion, some people argue against it saying that they should just not have sex. But for normal abortions, they don't say that. Unfortunately (for your hypothesis) they DID used to say that, way back 50+ years ago. That was the smug and sanctimonious claim blurted out by angry conservatives/religious folk and was meant to shut down conversations about abortion by making it clear to women that yes, there are consequences that may arise from the conjugal act. I use that imagery because that is how the pro-choice movement framed those that made that argument: ignorant bigots on the wrong side of history. When abortion becam…	/r/MensRights	09/08/22 04:30 AM
5	"Heard about what happened. Are you doing alright bro?" That's fair, and understandable. I could only suggest checking what you assume is their motive: do your friends really not believe you have your shit together, or are they checking-in just in case. Net result: sounds like you've got a good group of buds know what's going on (RP) and who have each others' back. You're in a better position than most	/r/TheRedPill	21/07/22 09:29 PM
56	"Heard about what happened. Are you doing alright bro?" Why are you complaining? Your guy friends are checking in on you because they're people who care about you. If you don't need their care and attention that's fine, good for you, but it seems like you are pissed that they want to look out for you...? At least you now know they have your back. If one of your buds broke up with his girl would you check on him, or just expect him to have his shit together?	/r/TheRedPill	21/07/22 08:35 PM
1	Men who care the most about women's sexual habits don't really care about women. They just use women as a scoreboard for their competition with other men. Can also confirm. When you know how to ask intimate questions, you can get to sexy secrets very quickly. If people (men AND women) know they are not going to be judged on their answer, they become very open. There are a surprisingly large number of contemporary women who have had group sex, usually prior to current husband/boyfriend and without them being aware. Which is FUCKING SAD, because when you ask them most husbands and boyfriends are interested in group sex as well.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/02/22 11:45 PM
2	Men who care the most about women's sexual habits don't really care about women. They just use women as a scoreboard for their competition with other men. Nope. Any comparison like this is not "how do I compare to other men" but "how does SHE compare me to other men". As in: "I know you've blown strangers in the bar, but you complain about blowing me at home in the privacy of our bedroom", or "you did anal with casual boyfriends but not with me". Which leads to "why do she feel differently about me than strangers and casual boyfriends?" The examples are legion and swing both ways: I wrote poems for an early girlfriend (ah, such youthful simpery) a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/02/22 11:39 PM
2	Random rendezvous renders real relationship rough, royally relaxing rectitude . Romeo's romance reverts rapport regarding roommate; reassurance required. I'm going to go out on a limb here and point out that this kind of physical reaction is really common. Once you smell someone that meant something to you, the smell triggers a lot of physical memories. Hug a hot chick that uses the same perfume as your grandma and tell me I'm wrong. I once hugged an ex-girlfriend 10 years later and once I smelled her I had the same 'travel back in time' feeling. Fucking weird. But the sad part is, it looks like this woman has no sane friends to talk her down fro…	/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen	24/02/22 02:51 AM
2	Just an appreciation post for The Boys Yeah, I think I disagree with you on this. I'd heard season 2 was shitting on dads but I was surprised about the observations and characterisations. Butcher's wife Becca is the classic single mom, raising her kid on lies and believing no one but her can provide guidance to her son. Homelander arrives and the kid comes to hate her for the lies, and more enthusiastically accepts his father when he compares his mom to Stormfront. Classic red pill moments as he gets to see the real world, not the ca…	/r/MensRights	21/12/20 10:12 PM
2	Just Don't https://www.odt.co.nz/news/national/emotional-farewell-stabbed-good-samaritan Yup	/r/MGTOW	13/03/20 05:08 AM
2	Just found this sub Meh, maybe. All of Reddit is curated image boards and all they do is start a pattern recognition process. Once the pattern recognition is in place you do start to see the same thing played out in media, the workplace, social relations etc. The nice thing about some of the posts on some of the boards is they provide links to data that shows it's not imaginary - the pussy pass is real. We also get to see the apologists for the pussy pass, as though in the fight for equality some things should just…	/r/PussyPassDenied	03/12/19 07:43 PM
2	Just found this sub Probably because we regularly see pussy passes handed out: https://www.reddit.com/r/PussyPass/	/r/PussyPassDenied	03/12/19 07:24 PM