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MGTOW is an ideology, not a club. There are no members. The individuals who espouse that which you dislike are not representative of all who claim to follow MGTOW.
/r/ExRedPill05/02/23 03:38 PM
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Your wrong on the assumption. It is not that all relationships end, just that any one relationship is likely to end. This isn't the thing that created MGTOW though. It is the state sponsored asset stripping that follows. IF IT HAPPENS TO YOU, you will lose everything including your money, house and kids and as you suggested for many, they also lose their lives.
/r/MensRights24/10/22 06:33 PM
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It has nothing to do with hot or not. The vast majority of relationships now end prematurely. The power to make this bad for men lays with women and the state and the more a man invests, the worse it will be. The only way to mitigate these risks is to not take part. You'll find it is the infiltrating Incels that care about getting with hot women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 06:11 PM
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These men are choosing a less than optimal path in order to protect themselves from something far far worse. The fact that you found a good woman, so far, is great for you. Give her time though. The vast majority of relationships end prematurely and badly for the man. The only way to mitigate this risk is to not take part.
/r/MensRights24/10/22 06:08 PM
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You're all barking up the wrong tree. The visible MGTOW are in general the guys who are new to it. They have often suffered recent anguish and are venting their rage. This is commonly known as "Red pill rage" and can be toxic, but is a viable coping method for the recently affected. These guys calm down and then move in one of two ways. They either can't handle the MGTOW idea and return to their previous life, basically going quiet on MGTOW forums, or, secondly, they move through the rage stage …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 05:59 PM
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You may be right. But ask yourself why all the single 30s and 40s ladies are saying "where are all the good men?". Those men are your MGTOW and they're gone. No longer happy to pick up scraps. If they're no threat to you then ignore them, but a lot of women who are trying to secure a future are going to grow old alone. Ask these ladies what they think about MGTOW.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 05:23 PM
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Not as broad as claiming all MGTOW hate women...
/r/ExRedPill26/09/22 02:56 PM
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Those men are more in line with PUA than MGTOW.
/r/ExRedPill26/09/22 02:54 PM
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Wrong. Although men might desire engagement from their partners, it's not about coming last. It is more about the choice between coming last with a single mom or coming second with a childless woman. Life with a single mom is not flawed in its own right, it just isn't as favourable as life with a childless woman, with the opportunity to have one's own kids or not. As far as family goes, currently it is pointless to create family with someone who has the right to remove those kids on a whim. Most…
/r/ExRedPill26/09/22 02:51 PM
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MGTOW don't hate women. The main feeling the majority can muster for women is indifference. They hate what they have been put through by women.
/r/ExRedPill26/09/22 02:41 PM
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MGTOW is considered hate because the people who feel they are opposed cannot control it. They believe MGTOW is all about hate when it is more about indifference. Indifference is a position that many cannot bear to face.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 03:46 PM
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You can't explain. Your reasons will come across as selfish and irrational and will show that you don't love her. You can get rid of her or she can get rid of you. The choice is yours until she takes it from you.
/r/MensRights13/03/22 07:48 AM
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Look at the news today. First lady of Ukraine states that "the war is deviating to the Ukrainians, especially the women and children". This may not be word for word accurate but words to this effect. Even in a comment that we all understand and take innocently, you can still see the disposability of men. Our thoughts and feeling don't matter and out lives are counted on spreadsheets. This won't ever change.
/r/MensRights09/03/22 10:49 AM
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A mother often, not always, has the best intentions towards herself. Often the children are used to punish the father, which obviously does no good for anyone involved. IMO, any woman found to be withholding access with no valid ground should lose custody to the father. The problem with the bulk of what you have said is that it is true, but the system has been set up to place the financial responsibility for any split squarely on the father's shoulders. This is changing but far too slowly. Also,…
/r/MensRights16/02/22 06:05 PM
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I never claimed that mother's weren't unimportant. I was answering your request for sources of information as to why father's are necessary. I think the objections arise because the women in relationships are generally the ones who end the relationships, certainly in marriage, causing single motherhood and absent fathers in one swift action.
/r/MensRights16/02/22 05:04 PM
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Look up Jordan Peterson. He's been studying this for decades and did an in-depth discussion with another academic of the benefits of fatherhood. It starts with exuberant play at a young age. Something father's lean towards and mother lean away from. This needs to start young for the children to learn boundaries. These boundaries are maintained throughout childhood into adulthood. In the video they discuss children who grow without father's actually have a measurable biological difference which s…
/r/MensRights16/02/22 04:39 PM
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Anyone not simping is MGTOW whether they wear the badge or not. It basically boils down to following your own path. There is a lot of advice that comes with being part of MGTOW. It is mostly risk avoidance but MGTOW does not required you to follow any of it. Basically, listen to advice if you wish, weigh up your options, look out for red flags and follow your own path. How anyone can call this out as toxic is beyond me.
/r/MensRights15/01/22 07:24 PM
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Are you suggesting people have no will power. No self control. Surly they wouldn't do that /s
/r/MensRights02/12/21 02:08 PM
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Equality of outcome is what the feminist groups are fighting for. Equal numbers on board rooms, equal numbers on TV. This equality of outcome should demand equal number of front line fighters, deep sea fisher people, sanitation workers too. I don't agree with this or even want it but it is in line with everything else they are fighting for.
/r/MensRights02/12/21 12:40 PM
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If you are making widely hurtful view while hiding behind a "woke activist group", people are going to want to challenge your views. If you censor content within your group by removing those that don't agree with you, you become a breeding ground for hateful, narrow minded views. Almost every "marginalised group" have "members" who display this behaviour within self created groups. It is not solely practiced by feminists or BLM as mentioned somewhere above, but used as a strategy by all marginal…
/r/MensRights29/11/21 12:59 PM
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If they throw her in jail for fraud, she will be liable for the money which she will never be in a position to pay. The banks want their money back so it's not in their interest and they make sure the law makers know. So the law overlooks the fraud and makes the man liable. the banks can now seise the house and make money on the deal. Everyone wins, except of course the guy who owns the house, but we all know he doesn't matter.
/r/MensRights27/11/21 12:50 PM
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It is very true. A woman will vocally assault a perceived low value man who approaches her, to signal to any bystanders that she is above the man making the approach. "How dare you ask me out", "why would you think I would ever go out with you". If she doesn't make this display, others will assume she is aligning herself with the value of the man and they will adjust their perceived value of that woman. All the shit mental gymnastics that women constantly go through. Guys are much less complicat…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 03:41 PM
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A pig in lipstick is still just a pig...
/r/MGTOW231/07/21 07:17 AM
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If they make artificial women complex enough to fulfill all your desires, she will learn to nag you...
/r/MGTOW229/07/21 03:48 PM
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Don't donate. Depending on your location and the direction the laws in your location are travelling, you might become liable for a child you never knew existed. First rule of MGTOW - Don't talk about MGTOW. There is a very good reason for this. Either the person your talking to already knows so it is unnecessary, or they won't believe you and this lessens you in their estimations. Either way, there is no upside and it can play out negatively for you. You're stating that getting a handle on your …
/r/MGTOW229/07/21 03:36 PM
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I'm late 40s. Went monk mid 30s. Realise the desire to breed is there because you are an animal that must breed to survive beyond your own self. It is natural and you're not going to remove this desire from within you. Try to notice it when it builds in you and push it aside. Don't beat yourself up if occasionally you lose this fight. Biology is not on your side here and you will lose many times alone the way. This is just life. My advice regarding anything you deem to be something you lust afte…
/r/MGTOW229/07/21 11:53 AM
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If you are planning to go back to relationships after 5 years then you're just wasting 5 years. Get back in now. SR is crazy. You don't want to slip into a distructive masturbation habit but nothing wrong with a healthy release once in a while. I'm 14 years MGTOW before I even knew MGTOW was a thing. Hate kept me away from women for the first two years, been monk for the rest. I just deal with women when I need to. If I find myself in the company of women I enjoy it for what it is and then back …
/r/MGTOW229/07/21 09:25 AM
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Conformity creates trust. This is evolutionary prudent. If you can't trust people in your society it creates imbalance and mistrust, potentially leading to harm. A man who is not married or has no desire for family has historically been an oddity. This leads to these men being isolated and watched. Sometimes excluded. This behaviour is not isolated to men though. It is also common to spinsters who were often regarded as being witches or "crazy cat ladies". They are also isolated and mistrusted. …
/r/MGTOW225/07/21 08:44 AM
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Not wanting relationships becomes easier when you keep getting ditched by monkey branching women or finding yourself having to back away from the crazy. Each failed relationship will make this a little clearer for you. One day you will finally realise what all us guys are trying to tell you but by then it will probably be too late for you. Just like it's too late for me an many others. Unfortunately I think most guys can't be told. They have to stumble about in the dark until the lightbulb comes…
/r/MGTOW222/07/21 08:15 PM
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Nothing. I'll be dead.
/r/MGTOW222/07/21 07:00 AM
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Good women are as rare as hen's teeth and just aren't available. They get snapped up quickly and the fact that they're good means they're loyal so you're unlikely to steal them away. The available women in the dating market are predominantly ones who can't hold down a relationship. The fact that they are constantly available shows why you shouldn't pin your hopes of a long, happy relationship on them. Pump and dump, guys, or go monk...
/r/MGTOW221/07/21 07:38 AM
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Absolutely right on all counts, but your ability or lack thereof has no bearing on your desire to give up the game and go MGTOW. Your typical incel is living in a dark place because of the direction he is aligned. If he changes direction and goes MGTOW then he is no longer incel. His celebacy is voluntary. The fact that you "have ability" counts for nothing if you chose you not to play.
/r/MGTOW219/06/21 01:10 PM
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MGTOW doesn't depend on your ability to attract women, more like your desire not to regardless of your ability.
/r/MGTOW219/06/21 07:12 AM
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In the UK we have "shed clubs". These are for guys to get together, chat and tinker with stuff. They advertise on Facebook etc. They tend to attract older men but I'm sure they would welcome anyone.
/r/MGTOW216/06/21 11:40 AM
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They can force a change in law so you end up supporting them via daddy government, rather than marriage.
/r/MGTOW210/06/21 07:32 AM
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Realise most people are as worried about themselves as you are about yourself. Then note how much you actually care about those that think you're judging them. Close to zero right. That's probably how much they actually care about you. I find that most don't care about you at all. They care about comparing themselves to you. They want to be better than you to lift their self esteem. From here, realise you don't need to compete with them. You don't care if they're 'better' than you or not. The fa…
/r/MGTOW209/06/21 01:07 PM
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"A pig in lipstick is still just a pig..."
/r/MGTOW206/06/21 02:53 PM
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I'm sure men do this too but in my experience this is so widespread amongst women I can't be bother with it. I change for no-one but me.
/r/MGTOW203/06/21 04:55 PM
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I don't think it is hateful to observe that women 'love' differently. In my own experience and the observation of those around me, women are always 'pushing' those that they claim to love. Women seem to require constant change, sometimes for no more reason than for change itself. There seems to be a need for someone they love, to perform how they are required to perform and if you don't, the love goes away quickly. Conversely, men are far more likely to relax into a relationship. You could argue…
/r/MGTOW203/06/21 07:46 AM
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Truly successful people only have casual relationships. Even with their spouses and kids. Success demands constant attention. You are unlikely to hit the top while devoting time to romance or playtime. Family and ltr won't reduce your desire for success, it will just make it more likely you won't succeed.
/r/MGTOW201/06/21 12:05 PM
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My Nanna recently went through care home care. We visited daily as she was very local. Whenever we went in, we would sign the visitors book. There was a column for the person being visited and almost all were women. Some women had no visitors at all, but almost all the men never had any. This was a shocking eye opener for me. These men, who gave their entire lives over to their families, got nothing back in their most desperate, loneliest time. I would chat with a few of the men as my Nanna was …
/r/MGTOW201/06/21 11:09 AM
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That 2 minutes means a difference in perception. One would be drawn out first, the other left behind. You would both notice a separate but distinct change in environment even if you had no comprehension of what that change ment. You were each born alone with no understanding of self or other. You will die the same way...
/r/MGTOW201/06/21 10:55 AM
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You still die alone, along with 100 others, all dying alone...
/r/MGTOW201/06/21 09:46 AM
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Give it a few years. Whatever happens it won't be for the better. If this loophole works for the Canadians you can bet your last $$$ the Americans will adopt it. I reckon the UK won't be far behind either.
/r/MGTOW230/05/21 05:25 PM
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Depends where you are. For some jurisdictions your willingness to support her child now may be cause for you to pay child support when you break it off. You should have enjoyed the 1st date and driven off while she was half way to the car with the child seat on the 2nd.
/r/MGTOW230/05/21 02:19 PM
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Until society is king again in the eyes of women, as opposed to women being kweens of society, there is no point working to build a better society. Look after number one.
/r/MGTOW228/05/21 03:05 PM
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It is probably the safest way to "aquire" family. All other routes have you over a barrel.
/r/MGTOW221/05/21 05:30 PM
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It is far less about living within a broken system and trying to be happy with it and more about removing yourself from the broken system and making the best of what is left. Society, relationships, legal system etc has very little to offer men at the moment and it is unlikely to change soon.
/r/MGTOW219/05/21 02:25 PM
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You do you mate. If your happy with just enough then what more do you need. Some strive to have enough through passive income so they don't need to work but the aim is the same. To have enough. This approach requires more effort though and can attract undesirables ;) There is an old saying "a wealthy man had a penny more than he needs".
/r/MGTOW216/05/21 11:11 AM
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And to answer your question... Guys who are high achievers have choice and there is nothing more illogical that having choice and not exercising it...
/r/MGTOW216/05/21 09:21 AM
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Monkey brain says "work hard = more stuff, more stuff = more women, more women = more sex". Power, influence, money has alway given men choice and choice is desirable. IMO, remove sex from the equation and most guys are prepared to earn just what they need and live in a shipping container.
/r/MGTOW216/05/21 08:38 AM
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Haters gonna hate. Losing your V is no big thing. You follow your own path and see your family's ridicule as their issue, not yours. If you really want to be with a woman, go be with one. Keep yourself wrapped up and protected and don't let it become serious. If you dont want a woman, keep doing what your doing. I guarantee as soon as you start ignoring their ridicule and enjoy living your own life for you, their behaviour will no longer matter to you. You may even start to find it amusing. Good…
/r/MGTOW215/05/21 08:31 AM
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Be glad you're not normal. There is nothing in the 'normal' women of today to celebrate. The fact that you're outside of normal is what brought you post here and probably why you're still happily attached after 8 years. But this also goes to show that the hope you're offering is slim to none as it is based on the non-normal woman you sell yourself as.
/r/MGTOW215/05/21 08:01 AM
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You can't tell someone not to make a mistake. They won't thank you for your advice. You can only explain why it was a mistake after the event.
/r/MGTOW214/05/21 05:58 PM
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Yes it is a shit post. About s shit situation that is gonna leave the two involved in a dead end relationship and I doubt either of them will see it coming. I wrote it because I was amazed to see something with so much potential, turn into a shit show Infront of me while I watched. I could have mentioned locations and posted pics but I didn't because I wish them well and hope, for their sakes, everything turns out for the best. But from what I saw I have my money on another failed relationship. …
/r/MGTOW213/05/21 09:42 PM
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Should be special to the pair of them but he most definitely was not enjoying himself. Maybe she could have taken his feeling into account and not dragged him down on this special occasion.
/r/MGTOW213/05/21 03:40 PM
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I certainly enjoyed my moment. :)
/r/MGTOW213/05/21 02:13 PM
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Well I figure he is at the point where he's so in love she can do no wrong or she's pregnant and he has no choice. Either way, when the dust settles he's going to realise he taken a bad turn somewhere.
/r/MGTOW213/05/21 02:05 PM
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Yet.... I believe MGTOW subs are not for MGTOW. They are for those who are trying to decide whether they will be MGTOW or not. There are the mods and a few diehards who might have left long ago if not for the roles they play here. As for me I'm starting to speed less time here now that I have cemented my thinking on the subject. Maybe we're need a new sub r/nowthatimmgtow for all the nice self improvement stuff but I doubt it will be popular as all guys have different goals.
/r/MGTOW213/05/21 06:56 AM
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All real physical interactions are, are a bunch of sensory inputs. If you can replicate these everyone on the planet can be a billionaire with the perfect spouse and the only real world gear they will need will be a pc and a comfy chair...
/r/MGTOW209/05/21 10:21 AM
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Is is not about the knowledge, more the pursuit off the knowledge. Anyone can strive to be better.
/r/MGTOW208/05/21 10:29 AM
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MGTOW guys are going MGTOW. The remainder are becoming more and more concentrated with those that can't, won't or haven't yet.
/r/MGTOW204/05/21 11:45 AM
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I respect the philosophy and their right to go their own way, however, they are as toxic towards MGTOW as they claim we are towards them. They are a hateful bunch who do not wish to engage. You would imagine our ideals are aligned but they hold bigoted attitudes towards MGTOW and compare us to the rest of the manosphere where hate may be more prevalent. I cannot respect that as a position, not that they'll care.
/r/MGTOW202/05/21 10:27 PM
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I was just reading this and I literally just got mine. Hilarious.
/r/MGTOW201/05/21 11:16 PM
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I've spoken up, in error, to defend MGTOW and correct some of their skewed views. It is like pissing in the wind. They are so fixated on their agenda that nothing gets through. I will never even look in again. The time spent there is time wasted.
/r/MGTOW201/05/21 11:13 PM
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Chuffing big EMP. Send world back to the dark ages for a while. Pretty sure those that survive will have a vastly different outlook on life.
/r/MGTOW228/04/21 04:26 PM
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The way I see it, if you are totally happy with MGTOW you probably don't even need this sub. You're already doing your own thing. The only point there can be to this sub is to share what brought you here and to read other posts to establish if MGTOW is for you. It is a middle ground between those who are recently red-pilled and fumbling for truth (as we see it) and those who wish to encourage or guide those guys who feel lost. As a result I can fully understand why most posts are related to wome…
/r/MGTOW213/01/21 01:12 PM
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The scenarios you will play out in your head about your supposed non MGTOW life will involve all the 'what ifs' you might imagine. What if I found a unicorn, what if we really loved each other. May as well wish for a winning lottery ticket and a long life too. Look at the stats. Your life expectancy is pretty much set. You are not going to win the lottery. If you remarry it will likely end in misery and you will be broke. The risks were always there, but we're smaller and worth taking. Not so an…
/r/MGTOW207/01/21 11:49 AM
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Where abouts in UK are you. Might find a local guy on here happy to hang out.
/r/MGTOW218/12/20 07:53 PM
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Look up the mouse utopia experiments. Fascinating reading and a lot of parallels can be drawn with human society. We are in the beautiful people stage when for the mice they were consumed with constant grooming and the avoidance of aggression or mating. The even stopped eating towards the end. This was the last stage observed before the ultimate demise of the colonies. https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/how-mouse-utopias-1960s-led-grim-predictions-humans-180954423/
/r/MGTOW205/12/20 10:48 AM
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If you assume your marriage is doomed to fail at some point in the near future, this puts you in a position to decide how your marriage ends. You could wait for her to get bored, cheat or just cut you out until you leave yourself, or.. You could grab the bull by the horns and end it first. How this plays out is mostly down to luck and the whims of your wife but she may be inclined to go more gently on you if the marriage is over because you "can't do it any more" as opposed to the norm of her be…
/r/MGTOW205/12/20 10:38 AM
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Her mouth is moving... Of course I'm joking but couldn't resist...
/r/MGTOW230/11/20 06:05 PM
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I'm not sure the percentages are so low. I think of red pill content, especially MGTOW, as being a sign post rather than a destination. You don't want to be counting those who are looking at the sign, but rather count those who have taken the path that the sign points towards. I believe the vast majority of MGTOW men rarely if ever consume red pill content because they are already on their path, no longer needing the guidance that these groups offer up.
/r/MGTOW230/11/20 01:20 PM
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Oh they want to hang out... they're just not allowed ;)
/r/MGTOW230/11/20 01:15 PM
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Seems to me that the governments of the world are engineering a population decline. This will cure many issues all in one go. They will reduce the population numbers, mostly at the bottom of society. The wealthy can take care of their own. Fewer relationships of all kind = fewer babies. Women will soon realise that future children will cost them dearly as the fathers will be absent. This will lead to greater decline in birth rates as women won't want to give up their new found freedoms or wealth…
/r/MGTOW229/11/20 08:45 PM
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It's just little things like having one more beer "than he's allowed", or making that quick run into "town" when she wanted him to do "his chores". It isn't hard to notice the disapproval seeping out of their partners when I give these guys an excuse to ignore the irrational boundaries that constrain them in private. Me being there gives these guys a break from the rules imposed upon them, at least until I leave again and I actively notice them unwind, relax and breathe. I'm sure they get it in …
/r/MGTOW228/11/20 03:52 PM
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I'm not just crashing. I'm always invited and it's always prearranged. I just don't let her rules affect my ability to enjoy my friends company. If it come to a point where I'm no longer welcome I make it know that the friend is welcome to visit me and I don't go back. I'm not doing anything out of spite. I just find the whole interaction highly amusing. The wife is like a referee desperate to blow her whistle but has nothing to call out. Her frustration amuses me.
/r/MGTOW228/11/20 12:45 PM
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This isn't love. Losing it will do you a favour.
/r/MGTOW228/11/20 12:36 PM
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I visit my male friends in their family environment. I gently coax them to bend the 'rules' imposed by their wives and ultimately deliver a little fun into their lives. I'm pretty sure the wives hate me for this but they cannot say anything as I'm not causing anything unreasonable. I view it as sport and by the time in done, I've gone home having had a thoroughly enjoyable time and my friends are just a little less emasculated. I have been regularly told by the wives that I am a bad influence on…
/r/MGTOW228/11/20 12:24 PM
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Just because you observe others living an Instagram lifestyle in the open, lots if not most feel a little lonely and isolated behind closed doors. It seems to be the way of things now. You're doing fine. Working hard. Pushing forward. Keep it up and start doing more things that you like to do for you. You'll grow happier in yourself and more self sufficient. The strange thing about this is that the happier you are alone, the more people will gravitate towards you. They will want what is making y…
/r/MGTOW228/11/20 01:08 AM
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I'm not sure why women find it hard to believe men aren't taking marriage seriously when they themselves don't take it seriously ... until of course, their value drops so far that they have little to offer and the thoughts of marriage becomes moot.
/r/MGTOW223/11/20 07:48 PM
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There would be no incentive for her to marry or partner up. The way I see it, the further you try to divert nature away from its true path, the more force you have to put in to maintain the diversion. Try pushing water of its course. If you are successful in pushing far enough, nature, and water, will find a new course. I believe MGTOW is a new course for the few men that have spilled over the edge. The way things are going, men and women will increasingly live as two unique and separate branche…
/r/MGTOW222/11/20 07:21 PM
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I believe you're wishing for something that humans cannot be. The desire for more is linked to the need to impress and attract a mate. Some deny this but ultimately that is what is about. Makeup to attract a mate. Fast car to impress and attract. Big house again to impress and attract. Look at those that no longer desire a mate. They give up on trying to impress and attract and live for themselves. Your new world might exist outside of humans, but to force humans down this path will ultimately f…
/r/MGTOW221/11/20 04:03 PM
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Desire for more, including sex, drives us forward. We are a selfish creature but without desire for more there will be no need for anything new. You can remove desire and difference from us all, make us all the same, but then we will have nothing to strive for. Nothing to require us to achieve. We will become slow, lazy and uninterested in anything. Eventually we will die off.
/r/MGTOW221/11/20 03:22 PM
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Women caring about men makes no difference. The difference between MGTOW and incel is that incel desire relationships but are excluded from having them. MGTOW do not desire relationships regardless if they are on offer or not.
/r/MGTOW210/11/20 05:04 PM
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Be a leaf on the wind mate. If feminism is exerting pressure on you, just move away from it.
/r/MGTOW210/11/20 04:59 PM
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Peaceful, stress free life hey ;)
/r/MGTOW207/11/20 04:02 PM
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I kinda red pilled and then MGTOW'd myself long time ago. I only discovered MGTOW was a thing about 3 years ago.
/r/MGTOW207/11/20 12:12 AM
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13 years. Welcome bro...
/r/MGTOW206/11/20 11:25 PM
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I agree but that doesn't mean the anecdotes that I'm offering up are either untrue or don't ever happen. I did however preface my anecdotes with "in my experience". This is all I have to go on. You'll also notice that my original point wasn't taking sides, it is the system that is floored. I'm not going to carry this on. Take it or leave it, it's how I feel.
/r/MGTOW201/11/20 04:17 PM
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They may have a better life of they share childcare but in my observations, in the majority of separations I've witnessed, the women use the lack of access as a way to punish the ex husband. Again in every case I've seen the guy gets removed and the wife keeps the family home. The guy continues to pay for the family even though he is not part of it. The wife moves on to a new partner so now has two men earning for her on top of any income she earns herself and the first guy ends up sleeping in h…
/r/MGTOW201/11/20 03:20 PM
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Sounds good but that won't last. The current dating trends are sweeping across the world thanks to the internet and it is creating a global sized problem that is going to give all of humanity a kick in the nuts. I'm so grateful I'm not a young adult entering this world. It's not great for guys or girls.
/r/MGTOW201/11/20 03:02 PM
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Nods
/r/MGTOW201/11/20 02:56 PM
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MGTOW is about men living their best life. There is nothing in MGTOW that denies relationships although men are advised to look closely at stats to make an informed choice. The stats state that relationships are currently a zero sum game and as a man you are almost guaranteed to lose. This doesn't mean all women are bad or evil. It just means that even if you find the perfect woman for you, with the way women 'choose' you're never likely to be perfect for her and you are back to losing again. To…
/r/MGTOW201/11/20 02:34 PM
10

Consistent people in your life makes life better. The trouble with kids is that if you split from their mother you're unlikely to maintain good strong bonds with them over weekend visitations not to mention the entitlement they're going to learn from Mom and you'll be competing with new Dad too. Even if it does go well most kids don't visit patents regularly, especially in old age. Certainly not enough to rely on. You're better off with a handful of lifelong friends that you can rely on and them…
/r/MGTOW201/11/20 12:16 PM
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To answer your question there is nothing inherently wrong with divorce. Two people who come to the end of a relationship should go their own way ... BUT ... when you set up a system where the guy almost always comes off worse, loses at least half of everything, pays into the future for a partner he no longer even engages with, loses kids etc, you create a powerful reason for women to leave even before a relationship is dead. And they do, everyday.
/r/MGTOW201/11/20 12:01 PM
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"A pig in lipstick is still just a pig".
/r/MGTOW228/10/20 11:13 AM
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My brother slept with my gf after we all went for a night out. He didn't do it out of spite. He did it because there was an opportunity. Cost me a gf that want really up to it anyways and a good relationship with my brother. All for something as trivial as a quick shag. Believe me when I say that my brother crossing that line hurt way more than finding out my gf cheated. This was the last straw that turned me MGTOW. It's been 13 years now and I'm happy to be off doing my own thing.
/r/MGTOW210/10/20 09:56 AM
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Anyone who is actively hiding an affair is concerned enough about themselves to not seriously harm themselves. She may go through the motions in order to attract sympathy e.g. cry for help. I would stay as calm as you can. Tell her you know and that your done. Don't show evidence or explain. She will believe you know far more than you actually do. Tell her you both have to move out as you're returning the property to your family and just walk away. The less you display emotionally the worse she …
/r/MGTOW206/10/20 02:01 PM
4

I noted that men in support of feminism are MRM (movements) and men in support of men's issues are MRA (activists). A definite language bias there.
/r/MGTOW206/10/20 10:40 AM
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Blue pilled won't thank you for the advice as for them to accept and act on it will cause them great harm. It is like trying to tell someone to cut of an arm to improve their life. It is likely one day they will lose the same arm through the natural course of their life but then they can blame life not themselves for taking that arm. I would not offer advice to anyone who doesn't ask and be cautious with those that do ask.
/r/MGTOW202/10/20 07:44 PM
3

Most ideal women are only ideal in the moment and you will re-evaluate this value throughout your life. Many of my ex's that I thought were perfect at the time turned out to be just as average as everyone else. Therefore waiting for that unicorn is a waste of time. The only thing worth waiting for is for yourself to be ready.
/r/MGTOW222/09/20 02:55 PM
1

Fine ok. It does however identify the 80:20 rule is present in almost all statistically countable sets including human behaviour. I found it both interesting and relevant but I shall not post stuff like this again. Can I ask if you watched it all before removing?
/r/MGTOW222/09/20 10:25 AM
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You are the sum of your life experiences. Don't ever feel shame for the things that make you who you are. Don't sweat it. I'm sure you know how it all works and it will happen for you when you decide the time is right. Remember what you learned here and stay safe. Don't be in a hurry to take the first opportunity either. Remember there is nothing so overrated as a bad shag and nothing so underrated as a good shit...
/r/MGTOW221/09/20 05:36 PM
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You liked this girl. As a result you see the good in her and ignore the bad. Other guys around you would either see her differently or ignore her all together. We all do this. We elevate someone and make them more special than they actually are. Realise this and firstly you'll see that she was only special to you because you chose to make her special. Secondly, you can make anyone special by choosing to invest emotion in them. Thirdly, knowing that it is you that is making them special and in tu…
/r/MGTOW212/09/20 12:20 PM
10

I believe it is more that you miss the person you were when you were with the person you believed them to be. Subtle difference, but what you miss was within yourself and you can have that back any time you want, with our without another.
/r/MGTOW212/09/20 09:47 AM
1

You'll be dead. This will be her problem ;)
/r/MGTOW219/08/20 02:22 PM
8

Leave everything to the local cat charity if you die from anything other than old age. She will hate you every day you live but will stick around for the jackpot if it's big enough.
/r/MGTOW219/08/20 01:28 PM
4

Love the way they keep trying to ignore the request as irrelivant because it doesn't fit the narrative :)
/r/MGTOW216/08/20 03:19 PM
1

Makes buying a ticket more fun when you plan what you're gonna do with it.
/r/MGTOW214/08/20 09:11 PM
1

Give it time. Those blue pilled will become increasingly red pilled over time. ;) I'm sure there will be challenges. Overcoming them will be part of the fun ;)
/r/MGTOW214/08/20 07:44 AM
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Glad you're alive to remember ;)
/r/MGTOW214/08/20 07:02 AM
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I know that now. This is what was sold to me by the media etc. Now I'd rather a peaceful life with the freedom to follow my own interests. MGTOWN was just a thought on sharing this peace and freedom.
/r/MGTOW214/08/20 06:55 AM
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Some good points. Love your name, 'Femville'. I can imagine this on a horror movie poster ;) I think Galt's Gulch was more in line of what I imagined. Run it more like a holiday camp. Not sure I could build a whole town for £135m. You're certainly right tho. If there was a place for us guys the women would want to take it over. Can't have anything nice anymore...
/r/MGTOW214/08/20 06:48 AM
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I'm know there are guys out there that just want to watch the world burn, but do you not think the community would pull together to protect itself? Or would the community not be a valuable enough asset to protect and the guys would just walk away? You're talking me back into a life of fast cars and holidays again ;)
/r/MGTOW213/08/20 11:35 PM
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This is well worth a watch. Doesn't mean it's in line with MGTOW but there is food for thought here...
/r/MGTOW211/08/20 05:29 PM
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If you marry you will have more anxiety worrying about keeping the missus happy and affording to pay for it all than you currently have about not being married ;)
/r/MGTOW201/08/20 10:47 AM
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If you're on a train and people get off at a stop before yours, are they going to a better place? Are you missing out on something? You're on a journey to a destination of your own. If someone else wants to marry, be happy, or sad for them. If you wanna marry, go for it. You know the advice. Follow it or not but live your life, not what you assume is someone else's.
/r/MGTOW201/08/20 10:44 AM
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I think your douche baggery theory is a little off. There have always been creepy men that would predate naive or easy women. I think the defining factor was the change in 'women's rights' that made the old fashioned 'slut' into a modern feminist hero, enabling women to sleep with anyone they want. And this right is widely accepted even encouraged. Guys were up for this because now all women become much more available but instead of it being ok for all women to sleep around we now have all women…
/r/MGTOW224/07/20 03:14 PM
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When quoting failed marriage stats bear in mine that most of the 50% who won't divorce you are already taken. I would suggest that if you were to marry a random woman today from the current dating arena that was compatible with you, your chances of divorce are more likely to be closer to 90%
/r/MGTOW224/07/20 02:53 PM
1

I'm not sure you can choose to be a loner. Either you are happy alone, or lonely.
/r/MGTOW220/07/20 07:45 AM
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It's been said but it's worth repeating. Ghost her. Block her number and email address. Don't ever be tempted to engage even in chat. Her time in your life is done and it's time to move in your own direction now. Good luck...
/r/MGTOW230/06/20 07:32 PM
1

F**k... My ex missus is famous...
/r/MGTOW230/06/20 06:44 PM
1

If you are under pressure to settle down, no amount of explanation will reduce the pressure. Most who you explain MGTOW to either already know, don't understand or don't want to listen. Women are either outraged or amazed and cannot accept. Simp just don't see it or can't afford to believe it and there isn't really anyone else to tell. If you need to talk, keep it in the forums where people know where you're coming from.
/r/MGTOW228/06/20 05:05 PM
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Run...
/r/MGTOW227/06/20 09:43 PM
1

And the pendulum keeps on swinging....
/r/MGTOW224/06/20 04:42 PM
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I'm not sure I've developed anything new. I've just had space and time to enjoy the stuff I always have in a way that proved difficult before. There is more peace and calm in my life. Just happy to be rolling with whatever comes my way.
/r/MGTOW227/05/20 08:00 PM
1

Once you're an outside observer, rather than being worrisome it all becomes comical. :) Let us sit back and watch it burn.
/r/MGTOW215/03/20 01:18 PM
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What I love about this is the men in her queue are also in every other women's queues in a 50 mile radius. I for one am happy to sit back and watch the carousel go round.
/r/MGTOW215/03/20 01:00 PM
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The thing about doing your own thing is that it can also be someone else's thing too. You don't have to withdraw on principle. You may also find a conflict between wanting to not do something, but wanting to spend a little time with someone. As long as you recognise the situation and don't allow it to become a regular thing I think your still going your own way. Basically, if you're happy for something to happen to you or around you, even if it is not ultimately to your best advantage, it is ok …
/r/MGTOW207/03/20 10:52 AM
1

If you want to do something, do it. Approach it as a hobby. If it doesn't pay it is still a hobby and you're enjoying yourself. It it starts paying then you're a lucky fella. Holding yourself back for fear of what others may think may feel safer in short term but it will eat away at you. I'm assuming you're MGTOW. If so, you are one of the few who are actually free to follow their own path. Don't waste it. Get out there, do your thing and enjoy your life as best you can.
/r/MGTOW227/02/20 08:55 AM
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You are in the enviable position of heading off into life with your eyes open. Knowledge is power and you can make good decissions. Going monk is always an option that nobody can remove so keep it in reserve for when you feel you really need or want it. Not just because you've been told it is how you should be. Although sex is front and center in your mind right now, it will subside. Desire will always be there but, in hindsight for me, it's a small thing that is permanently there in the backgro…
/r/MGTOW226/02/20 09:10 AM
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No. Lucky to dodge that bullet. Just years of relationships that kept failing for apparently no reason. Beating myself up cos I wasn't living up to impossible standards. Funny thing is most of those ladies are now post wall and naming their Nth cat.
/r/MGTOW225/02/20 12:25 PM
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No issues here. Went MGTOW at 35 though. That was 12 years ago before I even knew MGTOW was a thing. I had a lot of wasted time chasing a fantasy and getting screwed over. Know better now.
/r/MGTOW225/02/20 09:04 AM
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If only I would have learned at such a young age. I'm sure hearing this from one as young as you will inspire many more young men to go MGTOW. Keep up the good work. You're helping to change the world.
/r/MGTOW225/02/20 08:09 AM
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The way I see it, MGTOW is about being aware of pitfalls associated with relationships. By being aware, you choose if a particular pitfall is worth the risk. It's about protecting yourself from these pitfalls. It does not preach about respect or lack there of while interacting with anyone. Who you interact with is up to you. How you interact is up to you. If you want to be respectful or not, it's up to you. Look our for the red flags, avoid the pitfalls and keep yourself, your wallet and your fu…
/r/MGTOW223/02/20 04:49 PM
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