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CMVozymandias271/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/15 09:22 PM
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I was literally using the language used in the comment you replied to.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/17 04:11 PM
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I think the intent here is that we want to be of low value to you in order to reduce the likelihood that we could wind up dating you on accident.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/17 01:39 PM
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I want my children to be able to control their impulses but I don't really care whether they are chaste or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/17 01:36 PM
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So your question is "do kinky, poly women exist"? I mean, yes, but you're probably not going to get any of them to be interested in you while you're offering the opinion that hitting on women is predatory.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/17 10:42 PM
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You're allowed to judge them for that, and we're allowed to judge you for judging them. Funny how that sort of thing works.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/17 10:40 PM
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It's true, it's harder to communicate about things if your partner either isn't very self-aware or feels too insecure to admit their preferences. But in fact some women do admit what attracts them to their partners. I think it helps to create an environment in which it's acceptable to be shallow: my husband and I both know that shallow things affect our attraction to each other, so he won't cut his hair and I won't grow mine out. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/17 04:56 PM
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I think it's really easy to come to the conclusion that your partner is making stupid objections because they don't care about your sexual satisfaction (or, conversely, that your partner is an insensitive brute who cares more about their orgasm than your feelings). And so if you're like "my brakes are less sensitive than your brakes!", then you can go "neither of us is wrong, we are just different." And you can forgive each other for the previous confusion. :) Also, a lot of people (especially w…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/17 04:48 PM
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Sexologists talk about "sexual inhibition" and "sexual excitation". Sexual inhibition is the brakes; sexual excitation is the gas. Some people have very sensitive brakes: if they smell a weird smell or suddenly remember they forgot to make a grocery list, the mood is broken. Some people don't have sensitive brakes at all. Personally, I'm one of those people: I had an ex who was like "ugh, we can't have sex, there are socks on the floor" and I was like "socks? what do socks have to do with whethe…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/17 04:31 PM
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The only time saying "I want to have more sex" solves the problem is when the problem is that your spouse is unaware of how often you want sex. If the problem is that your spouse is tired or unattracted to you or depressed or taking a medication that kills their libido, then saying "I want to have sex" won't do shit. But if your spouse says "I don't want sex because we have four kids all of whom are extremely cuddly and want to touch me ALL THE TIME and by the time you get home I would rather cu…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/17 04:23 PM
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idk how Paul Graham manages to be in silicon valley and use "programming languages" as an example of things people don't have holy wars about
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/17 07:11 PM
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I feel like that's dubious from an ethical perspective-- like, if someone laughs about you stealing their wallet, perhaps because they're very rich, that doesn't retroactively make it a gift.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 11:50 PM
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I would consider that to be an attempted rape. Sadly, many men have internalized the idea that they can't be raped.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 11:48 PM
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There are lots of people who don't have issues about the kind of people they want to fuck, including trans chasers. I mean, even if you argue that chasers are an unusual sort of bisexual man who only wants to fuck people with tits, bi men basically never murder their partners in horror about having fucked a dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 08:05 PM
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A lot of cases are, like, cis dude goes to a trans girl hooker, feels a wave of shame after he comes, and then resolves his shame by killing her. Honestly, getting trans chasers to get over their fucking issues about being trans chasers is probably one of the best things you can do for the happiness of trans people and chasers alike.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 07:55 PM
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A trans woman with good SRS has genitals indistinguishable from a cis woman's unless you get in there with a speculum. The tech is unfortunately less advanced for trans men, who can't get erections after phallo without outside help.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 07:52 PM
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NISVS survey. Note that "rape" is defined as forcible penetration; to get true rape stats for men you have to include "forced to penetrate".
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/17 09:26 PM
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Men are just as likely to have been raped in the past year as women are; the stats are collected in a sexist way which considers men being forced into PIV not to be rape. Women are more likely to have been raped over the course of their lifetime, which could be because they're more likely to have been raped as children, because men are more likely to repress having been raped because men being raped is more highly stigmatized, or because men are more likely to have been repeatedly raped. There a…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/17 09:05 PM
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I mean, we guard known robbers. It's called "prison." Also, money does not have agency and doesn't care if it's being guarded or not, while people generally do not appreciate not having chaperones. It is fair to put the burden of chaperones on the people who are actually behaving badly.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/17 07:56 PM
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But why are you chaperoning the women? It's the men who are the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/17 07:19 PM
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...then why were you arguing in favor of women having chaperones?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/17 06:27 PM
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I have slept with a lot more men than you have. I have a statistically significant sample at this point. And the vast majority of men do not respond to "mm, actually, I just want to make out tonight" with anger or sulking or pressure. Personally, it is my opinion that if you respond to "no" the way a toddler does, you should be treated like a toddler, and be accompanied by a responsible adult at all times to ensure you don't accidentally stick your fingers in the light socket or cross the street…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/17 05:51 PM
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I got pissed, I pressured...Men are going to apply pressure for sex - to girls they just met, to girls they're dating, to WIVES. This is not normal male behavior, actually, and it seems to me to be pretty fucking misandrist to think men have the emotion regulation skills of the average toddler.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/17 05:46 PM
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Wow, why do you hate men so much? I have slept with a whole fuckton of men and the vast majority of them never got angry at me or pressured me for sex. I feel like this is sort of a basic minimum requirement.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/17 05:37 PM
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Or you can just... not hang out with drunk people? A third of Americans don't drink at all and another third drink less than one drink a week, it is genuinely not that difficult to find friends who don't drink.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/17 11:02 PM
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Eh, you can rack up a bunch of dicks in an enthusiastic weekend.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/17 12:30 AM
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I bet they're poly.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/17 12:29 AM
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You must fight hard in the early months to never allow her to deny you sex. Saying "no" but then giving you sex anyway is fine. Her first successful denial of sex from you marks the real turning point in this particular dynamic. ...well that's rapey.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/17 01:59 PM
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My husband and I agree that pants are TERRIBLE. So far we have not divorced.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/17 07:15 PM
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Come on, 31's not that old, you can do it. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/17 07:13 PM
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I feel like I've gone to a couple of parties, I've had The Party Experience, and now I want to move on and do different things with my life. Make some art. Have some kids. And, yeah, binge-watch netflix. There's more to life than parties.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/17 06:13 PM
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Man, I don't think that's true. People are generally more attracted to their primaries than they are to their casual hookups.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/17 06:08 PM
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I think it depends on the person. I'd be really unhappy in a monogamous relationship, but it seems likely to me that a lot of people can enjoy some casual sex, hit the point of diminishing returns, and become monogamous.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/17 06:06 PM
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I'm 25.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/17 05:41 PM
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this is setting yourself up for being miserable once you've had enough casual sex that netflix is more interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/17 05:35 PM
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Nah, you just go "wanna fuck?" You can get creative and be like "want me to fuck you like the dirty slut you are?"
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/17 04:47 PM
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In some subcultures parents will claim their daughters' teen pregnancy is actually their own unexpected kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/17 04:38 PM
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I'm pretty sure men benefit from women having birth control...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/17 04:37 PM
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Who the fuck wants their wife to be happy more than anything else in the world? If my husband has a choice between my happiness and world peace he knows what to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/17 03:26 PM
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One time a partner of mine put me on his back and did squats, I was very impressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/17 03:39 AM
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Both. Like I said, I'm running a high-variance strategy. I expect that most men are not attracted to me, and that's cool, because I'm striving to be appealing to the few that do. (...also what kind of fucking butches wear bras or mascara)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/17 07:26 PM
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I'm running a high variance strategy in which I'm a 3 for most people and a 9 for people who like butches. Highly recommended, if you have the kind of face that makes for a hot butch. I get laid a ton and I don't ever have to shave my armpits. I've spent most of my life being financially supported by people I'm fucking. It's not hard for me to get a date. And random strangers on street corners shout at me about whether I'm a boy or a girl. :D
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/17 03:20 PM
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I wasn't saying that you have to do all of those things. I was saying that those are some options for people to consider; some of them, of course, aren't going to work for any particular relationship. But I've dated people with significantly lower libidos than mine, and that sort of negotiation and compromise was part of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/17 07:27 PM
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So in addition to making sure you screen for a n=2 22-year-old skinny submissive girl with big tits, you need to also screen for communication skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/17 06:46 PM
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If a woman is Chad's side bitch she's probably fucking more than one guy too...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/17 01:16 AM
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In my case it is always because they are not someone I want to date for some reason (boring, lack of common interests, that sort of thing).
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 10:38 PM
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Evidently, athletes at Duke are less busy than the future leaders of America at Harvard. I mean, you know how much shit you have to do to get into Harvard? It's a wonder forty percent of them managed to have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 09:26 PM
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I swear 95 times out of a hundred if someone is like "I can't get a date" it will turn out that they're either not meeting new people or not asking them out. Well, there's your freaking problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 09:25 PM
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I like dating people who have their shit together. It seems wise to me to have at least one person with their shit together per relationship. My relationships are mostly based on intellectual and emotional compatibility, which aren't based on age.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 07:54 PM
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They're too busy to have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 07:51 PM
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...I have literally no idea what the connection is between this and my comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 07:50 PM
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Getting married can improve your health without making you 100% completely healthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 05:52 PM
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She also mentioned that she meets like one guy a year...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 05:45 PM
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IRL I don't meet many people, like one guy a year. That's why you're not finding a husband. Every freaking time, I swear...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 05:40 PM
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So date older. When I was 23 I found several good marriage candidates, but they were all in their late twenties or early thirties.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 05:39 PM
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Wow, the whole idea of "excuses to get out of sex" is so creepy. You know what excuse I use to get out of sex? "I don't want to have sex tonight."
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 02:08 PM
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I see several issues here. First, you say "most of the time I'm not craving sex, but once I get into it I enjoy the experience and I enjoy pleasing my partner. Getting started is the hardest part." This is a totally normal pattern of attraction, most common among women, but also experienced by a much of men. It's called "responsive desire". You don't spontaneously want sex, but you enjoy it when you have it. If you know you're responsive, it's good to do some foreplay sometimes-- always with the…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 02:04 PM
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... ... ... then I would fuck him with a strapon?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 04:07 AM
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Cosmo is silly. However, if I ever encountered a man who objected to my vibrator I would most certainly dump him for being sexually incompatible with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 03:03 AM
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Twenty dollars can buy many peanuts.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/17 11:13 PM
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I have to say, "at least you won't know you're having unenthusiastic sex with someone you're not attracted to" is not a selling point.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/17 10:05 PM
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Did I say it was his responsibility to work on why she didn't want sex? No, I said it was hers. The reason that her not wanting to have sex supersedes his desire for it is that being forced into sex results in severe trauma, including PTSD, and while celibacy is distressing for many people it never results in PTSD.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/17 09:27 PM
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Female, blue pill. Oh jesus fucking christ no. The guy I lost my virginity to tried to pressure me into condomless sex. Not a good trait for a spouse. Probably I would have been a slut anyway, because I like sex and don't care that much about social norms.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/17 08:11 PM
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...Are you saying that not having sex with someone is morally equivalent to raping them? There are lots of legitimate reasons not to have sex, including that you don't want to. I think in a sexual relationship you're obliged to try to figure out why you don't want sex and work on it, and to try to find a compromise that is satisfying to both of you. There are no legitimate reasons to commit rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/17 08:08 PM
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Jesus, that's man-hating. The vast majority of men don't want to rape people they love and want to spend their lives with.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/17 07:21 PM
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So wives should figure out how to offer and deal with duty sex at the least? Or she has an obligation to work on the reasons she doesn't want sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/17 07:07 PM
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I'm going to guess that most men do not find raping their wives to be a good alternative to a dead bedroom.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/17 07:06 PM
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In my experience, men generally have higher standards than "pretty and willing", although if this is the standards TRPers have no wonder they have so many complaints about women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/17 07:05 PM
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I'm not suggesting that I go around wearing a scarlet S, it's totally possible to screen out monogamous people while dating without oversharing about my sex life to everyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/17 07:03 PM
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If you work, then you receive money. Money can be exchanged for goods and services.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/17 07:01 PM
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Sociosexuality (like basically everything else) has a strong genetic component. I think everyone would be happier if high-sociosexuality people marry other high-sociosexuality people and screw around, instead of burdening lower-sociosexuality people with our antics.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/17 06:46 PM
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Lots of cultures have polygyny, some cultures have polyandry, probably more cultures than not expected that men would have sex with more than one woman, probably more cultures than not allowed remarriage. "Monogamy" as defined in this post is not how marriage was defined in lots of cultures.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/17 05:13 PM
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My husband and I are sluts. :) I know some non-polyamorous people, but it seems like it would be disrespectful of their relationship to inquire about their sex lives, so I don't know if any of them are "truly" monogamous as you say. I would worry that a lot of truly monogamous people don't talk about sex before they get married. Of course, many virgins are very familiar with their sexual desires. But without an open and honest discussion of kinks and libido, it's very likely you'll wind up with …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/17 05:10 PM
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See flair.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/17 03:05 PM
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Lol, i'm not sure most guys would want 'repeat business', if you slap a guy down last minute i'd say a good amount would make a mental not that you aren't worth future effort, in business terms of you turn down a job dont be expected to be offered ones in future. This is sort of a weird and hostile way to think about sex? I'm glad that most of the people I hook up with understand that sometimes people aren't in the mood for sex. (Heck, sometimes men aren't in the mood for sex! Shocking, I know.)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/17 03:02 PM
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People who plan on engaging in rape play should have safewords. People who wish to engage in safewordless rape play... well, lots of people enjoy very dangerous edge play, it's their own business, but just like I don't go around assuming that everyone I talk to wants to fellate a gun, you really shouldn't go around assuming that everyone wants to engage in unnegotiated safewordless rape play.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/17 01:30 PM
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I'm bi.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/17 01:27 PM
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I do not understand the connection between this and what I was saying. I was talking about whether I should leave immediately upon saying no, not whether I should leave upon being asked to leave. Of course men have a right to ask me to leave for any reason or no reason, but if he responds to "I don't really want sex tonight" with "get out", then he's not getting repeat business from me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/17 01:27 PM
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I feel like most people of reasonable social competence are perfectly capable of respecting other people's bodily autonomy, and most people without much social competence err more on the side of not expressing any desires at all for fear of pressuring someone. If someone is disrespecting my bodily autonomy, then in the vast majority of cases this is because they don't actually care that much about whether I want to have sex, which is wrong. And if they did it by accident, they really need to sto…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/17 03:32 AM
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Are you expecting me to not warn my friends about predators? Just let predators wander around my community harassing people until they find someone more vulnerable than I am? No fucking thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/17 03:19 AM
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I mean, sure, now I would leave. I object to "say no and leave" though, because I parsed that as "as soon as you say no you should leave," which seems to me to be very misandric. I don't assume that just because a man might like sex means he is going to disrespect my wishes to just make out and cuddle. And also when I was nineteen and a wimp and a people-pleaser and scared and I went along with what other people wanted of me, it was still wrong for people to take advantage of me. I did something…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/17 03:16 AM
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My immediate assumption would be that this is some sort of misunderstanding, because in my experience men don't particularly want to make me have sex I don't want. So I would probably try to clear this up. If he continued to push me, yeah, I would leave, and then I would tell all my friends he was a fucking creepy rapist and get him blackballed from parties. It turns out this is an excellent strategy to prevent fucking creepy rapists from bothering one.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/17 03:10 AM
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Call me an optimist, but I tend to assume that men don't want to rape me, and therefore I don't need to leave as soon as I say "no" in order to prevent this occurrence. Honestly, if I thought men were all one "no" away from raping me I would become a lesbian.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/17 03:00 AM
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Why would I care? I'm glad he can proactively research to solve problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/17 01:01 AM
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It seems to me that rather than using inaccurate models of the brain you should simply say "emotion", "logic", "impulses" or whatever else you mean. Saying "reptile brain" is just trying to borrow scientific credibility your theory doesn't have.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/17 01:00 AM
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It is very sad when polyamorous people get into monogamous relationships. One hopes that with increased awareness of polyamory it will happen less often.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/17 12:53 AM
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...I am pretty sure most mating was done through marriage, even in the Past.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/17 12:49 AM
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The difference between rape and divorce is that rape is assault, which is a crime, and divorce is not assault and not a crime. Similarly, while it is natural to pluck fruit off a tree and eat it, and it is also natural to take a shit in public, there is only one of these I am going to face censure for.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/17 12:47 AM
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I've lived in working-class neighborhoods all my life. There isn't "shit and bodies" everywhere, and there's as much trash on the street as there is in nice suburban areas.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/17 12:44 AM
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Anybody can have whatever dating preferences they want. I am sure fat women don't want to date someone who isn't attracted to them. But you shouldn't be a dickbag to people just because you're not attracted to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/17 10:13 PM
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What does this have to do with rough sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/17 02:24 PM
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How is that not him asking for more sex with a threat of breaking up? Asking for sex feels like begging. So you do think verbal communication is begging. I typically use "begging" to refer to things like "please please please let me fuck you I'll only put in the tip, come on, please", and "asking for sex" to refer to things like "sex is really important for me in a relationship, and we need to get on the same page." And the goal is not compromise either. Men don't want pity fucks. But men are fi…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 02:21 AM
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IME "we fight all the time" is a problem that is much more common than lack of attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 02:18 AM
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shrug Don't look at me, I filtered hard for a self-aware partner who can accurately report his sexual interests to me. If you chose to date a partner who isn't self-aware, and then got bit in the ass by her lack of self-awareness, that is down to your own shitty partner selection.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 12:31 AM
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How is that begging or pleading? Do you think verbally communicating things is always begging?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 12:29 AM
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It only breeds insecurity in women who don't want to fuck their husbands, but do want to keep them and keep them sexless. Why exactly do you want to stay married to this lady?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 12:26 AM
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"Honey, I want you to be really fucking blunt with me. How do I become hot?"
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 12:25 AM
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Of course you can have relationship problems that aren't related to lack of attraction. For instance, I broke up with a partner I was very much attracted to because we couldn't deal with any minor problem without getting into a really angry vicious argument and then stomping off into separate rooms where I would cry myself to sleep. Improved communication would have helped this situation, but I don't think improved attraction would have helped at all, particularly given that I was attracted to h…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 12:25 AM
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Okay, that's fine. But if your fun friends who make you laugh say something sexist, you should probably be like "dude, that's not cool." And if someone I'm fucking says "women are naturally gifted at childcare and it's unfair to expect men to change diapers" mid-thrust, I'll stop the sex and have a conversation about how fathers are just as good at parenting as mothers are.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/17 10:05 PM
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You're assuming the relationship problem is lack of attraction, instead of one of the many problems solvable with good communication. Also, good communication is not the same thing as begging and pleading; in fact, asserting firm boundaries is part of good communication.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/17 09:56 PM
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I'm not dishing out sex to the most morally upright people I know, here. I'm not like "show me your tax returns before you get laid, I wanna find out what % of income you donate to charity". I have sex with people because they're hot and I want to. Also, "having to"? Is someone making you buy women shit, or are you doing it of your own free will and them blaming her for some reason?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/17 09:52 PM
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I think you should say "dude, not cool" when someone you know is doing something that's not cool, but I don't think there's any moral obligation to ostracize people or not to have sex with them based on their beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/17 09:50 PM
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Some players are misogynists, some aren't, same as any other group of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/17 09:48 PM
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are we sure that tops even exist? I think I saw a blurry picture of one once...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/17 04:44 PM
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Because otherwise I'd have to be appalled at your carelessness regarding STI testing, given that you are apparently not regularly sharing STI test results with partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/17 04:41 PM
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You can ask your partner to show you your STI test results as a condition of getting married. You can also ask your partner to get a herpes test and show it to you as a condition of getting married. ...please tell me you've had, like, two sexual partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/17 02:18 PM
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You can go look at her testing results, you know. A lot of places give you them on a piece of paper.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/17 01:21 PM
1

Presumably we would talk about it and come to a fair compromise.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/17 12:51 AM
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I have to say, as a married person, my husband is aware that I fart and shit, and it does not seem to have impaired the romance any.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/17 12:10 AM
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Nah, he's into trans dudes, I've seen his porn file. IDK what's going on there, but I appreciate it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/17 09:15 PM
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Female promiscuity where females select mates (like in polyandrous matriarchy) will mean mean societal bonding of only 20% of male population. Polyandry leads to... fewer men getting married? What?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/17 09:14 PM
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First of all, I really don't care whom you choose to date. My only horse in this race is trying to make sure evolution is characterized with some vague amount of accuracy. There's no way to separate "innate programming from our evolutionary imperative" from other behavior. It's evolution all the way down. A person who is celibate, or who uses contraception, or even who murders their children, is doing so because of drives and behaviors that exist because of the process of evolution. The consciou…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/17 09:13 PM
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No, my husband has a preference for trans dudes. Very convenient.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/17 09:04 PM
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(1) Does anyone here think that sending men out to die is a good thing? (2) How is that relevant? The topic of the thread is not "should women shame men for not being willing to join the military?"
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/17 09:02 PM
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With tits like that she's on estrogen or she got a boob job, maybe both. Still, though, genetic gifts! How unfair it is that only some of us are gifted with the ability to be gorgeous traps.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/17 09:00 PM
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But you're expressing that you think it's immoral for people to call other things immoral. Isn't that self-refuting? Shouldn't you be quiet lest you wind up gathering a mob and hurting people?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/17 08:53 PM
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And I can judge people who judge promiscuous people as "filthy disgusting revolting animals" as gross sex-obsessed misogynistic creeps.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/17 08:52 PM
1

a woman with a high likelihood of STDs I keep seeing guys on here get worried about that, and like... STD testing exists! You don't have to mess around with guessing whether she's a slut, you can go get concrete evidence that she is STI-free!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/17 08:49 PM
2

Brad Pitt is so boooooring. The only time he's attractive is when he's Tyler Durden and tbh a houseplant would be attractive if it were Tyler Durden.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/17 08:48 PM
1

Guys like a girl who is about as horny as they are. In my personal experience, guys tend to range from not caring about sluthood to finding it a selling point, but there is an obvious confounding variable here in that guys who hate sluts aren't going to try to date me.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/17 08:46 PM
2

I lost count. I don't think there's such a thing as the "appropriate" N-count.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/17 08:40 PM
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I'm the high N-count friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/17 08:40 PM
3

Most women are not that interested in casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/17 08:38 PM
1

Holy shit she's passable. Do you know if she's on E or is that just genetic luck?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/17 08:38 PM
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Dude, anti-feminist =/= likes watching women get assaulted, what the fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/17 05:12 PM
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But I consider them to be gay men, who also sleep with women. "Bisexual". The word you're looking for is "bisexual".
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/17 01:48 PM
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Nah, there are definitely straight women who chase trans men, I've met them. (My husband's a straight guy who chases trans men, figure that one out.)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/17 01:46 PM
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I know there are a ton of guy's who fetishize transwomen. Yeah, that's a straight dude thing. Gay dudes don't chase trans women. (Interestingly, both straight women and lesbians chase trans men.)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/17 01:39 PM
3

Oskar Schindler wasn't German, he was Czech. He spied for the Nazis as they were preparing to conquer Czechoslovakia, because he needed money. He got a factory as a reward for his spying. Originally, he hired Jews because they were cheap. Over time, he gradually started to protect his Jews, no matter what the cost. Seems like a value shift to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/17 01:36 PM
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Evolution cares about how many grandkids you have. That's it. That's all it cares about. If you say that a woman's worth is her ability to have sex with people, due to its evolutionary importance, then you have to say that a childfree person inherently has less worth than a person with twelve kids, regardless of what else they've accomplished. (The heroin-addicted single mom is particularly great from an evolutionary perspective, because she's conned society into taking care of her kids for her,…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/17 01:32 PM
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R also includes 100 children in 100 pregnancies from not necessarily one female partner. r/K is witnessed in a societal level is different than one at individual level. No, it does not. r-selection refers to species like insects that try to produce the maximum number of babies in the expectation that most of them will die. Short-term mating in humans-- a K-selected species-- is different evolutionarily. What's going on is that the male is trying to get someone else to do the parental investment,…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/17 01:30 PM
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Okay, replace with Grace Eldering, who invented the whooping cough vaccine and saved thousands of lives, but who did not have children. From evolution's perspective, she is a worse person than the heroin-addicted single mom.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/17 01:30 PM
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Better pursuing r strategy in R/K Selection Theory (google it!) No humans are r-selected. Have you ever seen a human have a thousand children in one pregnancy? No? That's because we're not fucking r-selected. We're basically the MOST K-selected species. In a lot of K-selected species it maximizes a male's fitness to seek short-term mating with other males' mates, but that does not mean they are somehow r-selected.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/17 04:08 AM
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So when a woman sluts it up and easily gives away her most valuable asset (access to her body) it devalues her worth because it shows that she doesn't respect or value her worth. By an identical argument, Mother Teresa has less worth than a heroin-addicted single mom who gets knocked up twelve times and has her children taken away from her within six months each time. There is no reason for me to care about evolution's opinion of my actions. Evolution is terrible.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/17 04:06 AM
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Of course people's values can change. Oskar Schindler started out a Nazi spy and wound up saving Jews from the Nazis.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/17 06:46 PM
3

Can you explain why you think that's the case?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/17 01:56 PM
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Passive dread is when you make yourself and your life so awesome that you start to garner attention from other women. You aren't doing anything to actively get this attention. This triggers mate guarding in women. You know, I think there might be other explanations for why being really awesome will make your wife more attracted to you, that have nothing to do with attention from other women. In fact, I expect that if you and your wife were on a deserted island without any other women around, bei…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/17 01:55 PM
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So, wait, do you think this works because you're becoming attractive, or because you're making your partner feel dread?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/17 01:31 AM
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That's not "dramatic", it's just wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/17 01:04 AM
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Or, you know, option 3: they aren't having sex with you because they don't find you sexually attractive, and demonstrating higher value - thus attractiveness - instead of trying to negotiate desire is the best way to get her to actually feel desire for you, not just put on a show out of a fear of losing you. I have no problem with that but why the fuck is that called "dread game"? It's like handing out free cookies to sick children and calling it Murder The Homeless Game.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/17 12:50 AM
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I assure you, I've never slept with a woman who wanted me to rape her on the off chance she was into that sort of thing. Aren't y'all supposed to be high-value men with high standards?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/17 10:34 PM
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Then you can be like "wow, crazy chick" and delete her number.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/17 09:49 PM
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Someone is lying because the gap between the mean lifetime number of sexual partners for straight men and the mean lifetime number of sexual partners for straight women is mathematically impossible.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/17 09:37 PM
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A small number of guys have a tremendous amount of sexual partners, while most guys don't have very many. Is there any reason to believe that a similar phenomenon isn't true of women?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/17 09:30 PM
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Women want to have sex with the most attractive men, unlike men, who select their partners via random number generator.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/17 09:29 PM
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No one is saying you're a bad person for wanting to have sex with your wife or even having a relationship agreement to have sex with your wife. However, your relationship agreements are not the same as everyone else's relationship agreements, and many perhaps most people do not have a relationship agreement that they must have sex with each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/17 09:21 PM
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This post feels to me like it is equivocating between "not wanting sex" and "deliberately not having sex with your partner to get what you want." If you are trying to make someone who doesn't want sex with you feel dread so they force themselves to have sex with you anyway, you're an asshole with a terrible sex life. If you're dating someone who is deliberately not having sex with you to control you, then DUMP THE MOTHERFUCKER ALREADY.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/17 09:09 PM
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Yeah, sure, why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/17 10:26 PM
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I guess I'm never going to invite you over to dinner! It seems quite rude to me to not give me the information I need to make my guests happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/17 10:24 PM
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But if you don't tell people that you don't like the food they make, they're going to keep making you food you dislike. And even though it might hurt them in the moment to hear it, presumably they don't actually want you to eat something you think is disgusting while pretending you like it to save their feelings. Presumably they're nice people and they want you to eat something you like. I mean, there's no need to be rude about it. But, like, if the food is too spicy, you can say something like …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/17 10:00 PM
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I mean, sure? I can try to pray to a Shinto god and observe that nothing happens?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/17 05:24 PM
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"If you are not literally being thrown into a gas chamber you have nothing to complain about!"
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/17 05:15 PM
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All the men who can't get married would riot.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/17 05:15 PM
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If you are deliberately misleading someone by omitting things, then that's lying, and don't be all "but I don't tell him every time I go to the bathroom!" about this. You know what you're doing. I have lied to my husband in the past but I have always admitted it and apologized. My husband wouldn't mind it if I lied to him sometimes, but I personally value honesty very highly. When we got together, we agreed that we wouldn't lie to each other, because I consider it disrespectful to lie to him, an…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/17 05:13 PM
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Why do you get to approve or disapprove of what other people dress and look like? It's none of your business what clothes other people choose to put on their own bodies.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/17 03:28 AM
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Yes, that is why what I'm suggesting is a change in strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/17 02:25 AM
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So find a social group with conventionally attractive sluts in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/17 02:18 AM
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Lots of people like sex and don't like casual sex. Besides, why hang around some subculture full of virgins looking for the one precious special snowflake?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/17 02:18 AM
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(1) Around here "alpha" is defined by redpillers who have made the distinction between alpha fucks and beta bucks quite clear. (2) I guarantee you there are plenty of charming broke guys who get laid like tile.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/17 01:38 AM
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"Alpha" is not a synonym for "good". Money is desirable but that doesn't make having money alpha.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/17 01:15 AM
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Many people can have rough, aggressive sex where they call each other fucked up shit while also respecting each other as people.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/17 12:44 AM
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The difference between hating on a guy for wearing a fedora and hating on a woman for having lots of sex is that the latter is one small part of thousands of years of control of women's sexuality that has only recently begun to lift. There has not been a history of thousands of years of oppression of men who wear fedoras. Conversely, there has been a history of sexism against, say, men who cry, and thus criticizing men for crying also makes you sexist. The similarity is that you are hating on ra…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/17 12:40 AM
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I don't think anyone will call you a misogynist for disliking female Nazis, and I hope you can figure out for yourself what the difference is between Nazis and women who get drunk sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/17 12:36 AM
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It is possible for a personal opinion to also be shaming. If I said "I don't want to date a terper because they're all misogynistic autistic neckbeard abusers", I would be shaming terpers.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 03:38 PM
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But... that's not the point where I disagree with you. The crux of my disagreement is not "getting casual sex is secretly really hard for the average woman." The crux of my disagreement is "it is a good idea to criticize people for doing easy things that make other people and themselves happier."
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 12:15 AM
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Ask to look at his latest STI test results. Or even better go get tested together.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 12:09 AM
1

Let's imagine a toy model in which there are two men (Bob and Charlie) and two women (Alice and Eve). Bob and Charlie both fuck Alice, but Eve is saving herself for marriage. Bob and Charlie both have an N-count of 1, Alice has an N-count of 2, and Eve has an N-count of 0. The average N-count for men is (1+1)/2 = 1. The average N-count for women is (2+0)/2 =1. They're the same. Imagine that Eve and Alice are both promiscuous and both have sex with both Bob and Charlie. Then Eve and Alice both ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 12:09 AM
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"I don't want to date a promiscuous woman" != slut shaming "Sluts are disgusting, repulsive and immoral" == slut shaming "I don't want to date a promiscuous women because sluts are disgusting, repulsive, and immoral" == slut shaming
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 12:02 AM
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Easy things that are neither shamed nor celebrated, even though some people do not do them: Eating a handful of almonds. Flying a kite. Birdwatching. Taking the subway to work.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/17 11:57 PM
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dude a man who has casual sex isn't maintaining order and civilization or showing off his virtue and morality either
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/17 11:50 PM
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Bad news, I was Catholic and I'm still trans. I've had an amazing life and one of my many blessings is that I'm not cis. I am incredibly grateful!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/17 09:21 PM
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IDK I think both happened at puberty, so probably he punished me with both! My soul proclaims the greatness of the Lord, my spirit rejoices in God my Saviour; he has looked with favour on his lowly servant. From this day all generations will call me blessed; the Almighty has done great things for me and holy is his name.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/17 08:53 PM
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A bit sad for all the people I know who have been trying so hard to be bisexual and it's just not working for them. Why can't God help them be bisexual, the objectively best sexual orientation?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/17 08:36 PM
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this is very true. I'm an atheist and God punished me by making me a bisexual. Thanks, God!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/17 08:28 PM
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Short version: Because I'm crazy. Longer version: So I'm so jealous that I'm not jealous at all. I'm borderline, and I'm afraid of being abandoned when my husband talks to people other than me, goes to work, has hobbies, leaves the house... Once I developed the coping techniques to deal with all of that nonsense, adding in "also my husband has sex with other people" wasn't hard at all. I'm so pathologically jealous about normal things that adding in not-normal things doesn't make any difference.…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/17 08:17 PM
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Guy #2, because he looks actually strong instead of having vanity muscles.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/17 08:07 PM
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I mean, sure, if he sat inside jerking off on his computer all day because he was paralyzingly terrified of girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/17 05:02 PM
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You're telling me a guy with ten million dollars is going to have problems dating exactly whom he wants to?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/17 05:01 PM
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You're the one who posted pictures of three dudes who are all about as hot as each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/17 08:54 AM
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They'd all probably do about as well as each other, it depends on personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/17 07:23 AM
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but does he look gay?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/17 07:23 AM
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Ancient Greece without the racism and slavery. so... pederasty, routine sex work, marrying twelve-year-olds to thirty-year-old men, and (if you're going for Sparta) polyandry, women running a lot of the day-to-day life of the city-state, men living communally apart from their wives, and women shaving their heads on their wedding day?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/17 01:43 AM
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By the time she gets to 62 I'm surely not. Come on, have some faith in yourself! Aren't you a high-value man? I find this assumption among redpillers that the vast majority of people a woman has casual sex with rejected her to be very strange.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/17 01:41 AM
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A surprising number of really smart, really hot girls do sex work. So if you want to date a really smart, really hot girl...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/17 01:39 AM
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Great, but like... I'm not sure why my husband should care about what wise men in the past who know that temperance and virtue are strength think about his boner. I can imagine this right now. "Husband! Kant thinks that you shouldn't be masturbating! Plato thinks you should be fucking teenage boys in order to approach the form of the Beautiful! Plutarch says you should take a goddamn shower after you've fucked your girlfriend so you don't smell like her when you're trying to fuck me!" ...actuall…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/16 11:27 PM
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You sound jealous. It's okay. I hope someday you'll be able to come to terms with your sexual fetishes. I'll be here to help you DIY estradiol when you need it <3
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/16 10:11 PM
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That's tautological. You've defined 'high value man' as someone who shares your sexual preferences for chaste and submissive women and can put them into practice, and then you share with us-- as if it is a revelation-- that these men typically prefer chaste and submissive women. No shit! If I defined "high value man" as someone who can get women who are 400 pounds to sleep with him, suddenly high value men are going to all be fat admirers. See not being afraid to judge is a true signifier of man…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/16 10:09 PM
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Because your dick is the best dick, duh. If you're better than she can get otherwise, why would she leave?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/16 10:00 PM
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Why? She had 62 different dicks, and then out of all those dicks she decided to pick your dick. That's pretty special. If she's only had one or two dicks in her orifices, you're not special at all. She has no idea what her other options are, she just picked the first dick that was available.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/16 09:20 PM
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Men in Silicon Valley are, in fact, interested in dating. They're interested in dating hot, smart people. They don't really care about how many people the person has had sex with (except for the few for whom it is a selling point).
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/16 09:16 PM
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Not my SMP. No one in my social circles is dating a club promoter or a pro athlete, nor do they have any interest in dating a club promoter or a pro athlete. You've got that other SMP over there you're telling me about, and I suppose it's anthropologically interesting, but it has no effects on my life whatsoever. And judging by your comments on the Valley, you aren't part of my SMP either. Which is fine. You do you. Go out there and play sportsball and promote clubs and marry virgins, I don't gi…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/16 09:14 PM
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ah, yes, u/Atlas_B_Shruggin, queen of the nonjudgmental bloopers
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/16 08:08 PM
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TBH my true response to this is that it's not true in my dating pool (indeed, it's striking how many rich Silicon Valley types marry former sex workers), and why would I care about other people's dating pool? I don't have any interest in dating a frat boy or a pro athlete or a drug dealer or a club promoter. I don't care if they like virgins or blondes or hyperintelligent shades of the color blue.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/16 08:06 PM
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You have a perfect legal right to shame other people for their sexualities, and i have a perfect legal right to call you an asshole. Isn't it so lovely that we are all expressing our legal rights?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/16 07:57 PM
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No, it doesn't. I am thin and I eat whatever I want. I have never required a single ounce of willpower to do so. This is part of the reason I believe in a biochemical cause to obesity. I eat whatever I want and it took me a good deal of effort to gain twenty pounds so I would be in the optimal weight range. Someone else spends all their time hungry and counts all their calories to wind up weighing more than I do. The cause has to be biological, and it can't be genetic given how rapidly the chang…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/16 04:16 PM
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If your bare minimum standard is "not promiscuous" rather than, like, "resolves conflict like a rational adult", I am not optimistic about your marital success.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/16 04:11 PM
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If it's not her fault, she's an object of sympathy (this includes situations where the marriage was bad for both of them). If it is her fault, people disapprove.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/16 03:37 PM
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If something is a one in a million thing, you'll be able to find three hundred examples of it in the US alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/16 03:03 AM
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I plan on pump and dumping women since I obtain no benefit in marriage. how are you expecting us to respond to this? "oh no, u/fundude1, how can we EVER survive without your hand in marriage? please! we will legalize marital rape for you!"
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 08:37 PM
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And most can't even do ONE of those things. I do not think that works out from a mathematical perspective. About two-thirds of women are fat, and about two-thirds of women have sex with their husbands less than two to three times a week. That means that only a third of women are fat women who have sex with their husbands less than two to three times a week, and presumably some of them are pretty and/or nice, which would further lower the percentage.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 08:34 PM
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The average age at first marriage is 26, and women are in LTRs for several years before they get married. Are you saying that women hit the wall at 22?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 08:25 PM
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IDC whether or not you want to date sluts but if your primary criterion for wife is "not promiscuous" you need to acquire higher standards to be marriage material.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 08:22 PM
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No, marriage is not a good way to get sex with women below the age of 25. Marriage is good for other things, like companionship and emotional support and raising a family. If you don't want those things, don't get married.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 08:17 PM
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High sociosexuality people tend to marry other people with high sociosexuality, just like people in general tend to marry people with similar personality traits. IDK about highly attractive men who don't like casual sex though. But then why would I, a high sociosexuality person, want to marry such a person?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 08:13 PM
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a nice big cock looks better than a 33 cc coke can says you. Personally, as someone with a classical education, I agree with the ancients that a small penis is elegant and manly in appearance, while a large penis is animalistic and vulgar.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 10:24 PM
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It's not in the DSM because all the Asperger's patients got reclassified as autistic. (It's still in the ICD.)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 08:07 PM
1

I don't know why so many people insist on pearl-clutching about feminist advice they have no interest in taking anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/16 12:40 PM
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Man, in his article where he says it's a bad idea to hook up at cons, he says he's done it a bunch of times himself, which I feel like proves my point here
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 02:59 PM
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I am glad you have your own personal definition of Chad, but my point is that many people here disagree about what a Chad is.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 04:42 AM
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If you google all of the things that men are stereotyped for being attracted to, you will also find countless studies that prove that they are attracted to them. Clearly, exceptions exist-- for both men and women. True, Chad is often defined as good-looking (although there seems to be some debate about whether height is more important than facial attractiveness). But there's considerable debate about whether he's rich and good-looking or a drug dealer and good-looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 04:36 AM
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No shit I'm posting on Reddit on Christmas, I'm a faggot. The fuck you think I'm going to do, talk to my family?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 04:33 AM
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This is, err, high-variance advice for autistics.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 04:30 AM
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It is well within the spectrum of normal male sexuality to only be attracted to people once you get to know them, and is not necessarily a sign of any medical problem. Just because you aren't like that doesn't mean there aren't a bunch of normal, healthy men who are.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 04:30 AM
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Kid, no one on here can tell you why you're creeping women out. (Other than the obvious, like "it's probably not because you show lack of respect for their boundaries.") If one of us talked to you in person, we might be able to say "you're just paranoid and no one thinks you're creepy" or "check in whether people want to hear about your interests before you tell them all about them" or "okay, I know social skills class said 'eye contact', but not THAT much eye contact." But where all we have is …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 04:28 AM
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For many people, jerking off is more fun than sex with a person who doesn't want to be there.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 04:24 AM
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People jerk off to BBW porn. It's a market. Presumably people are not jerking off to porn because they are hoping that the porn will let them put their dick inside it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 04:23 AM
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What is your evidence for this claim? I mean, look at the number of wildly different ways that men on this sub describe Chad-- half of them are going on about how he makes 200k and the other half are talking about how he's a drug dealer who lives with his mom.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 04:22 AM
7

3'7" incel TYRION????? (panties fall off immediately)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 04:21 AM
5

Because people who wear diapers and are furries fuck other diaper-wearing furries, who consider the fact that they wear diapers and are furries to be rather a selling point.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 04:20 AM
3

Yes. I go to cons. I have hooked up with people at cons. This is a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 04:04 AM
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You can find porn of every niche fetish on the Internet. You can find sneeze porn and balloon porn and dragons fucking cars porn. It doesn't mean that it's a majority taste.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 03:39 AM
2

Yes, and some of them watch MLP with their girlfriend (or more likely girlfriends). Your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 03:38 AM
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dude there's a huge con hookup scene, I bet at least one of those guys got laid
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 03:28 AM
2

It is also possible that you have more interest in sex than most people do. And certainly the higher-libido partner may be frustrated in a few times a month relationship, but I don't think it's fair to characterize it as "stop fucking her husband" if they're having sex near-weekly.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/16 10:30 PM
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Eighty percent of couples have sex a few times a month or more, and presumably some of the twenty percent are long-distance couples and people who both happen to have fairly low libidos (either permanently or due to circumstance like a new baby). So my guess is that it is relatively rare-- maybe ten percent of couples? Enough to be a serious problem for many people, but certainly not most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/16 07:25 PM
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Most rapes are not provable beyond a reasonable doubt. This means that, except in relatively rare cases, rapists will generally not experience legal consequences for their actions. This also means that any person you have sex with-- drunk or not, someone you met before or not-- is capable of falsely accusing you of rape, and many people will believe them and ostracize you for it. There is not a lot that anybody can do about any aspect of this situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/16 03:12 PM
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the laws of economy taught us that a market works well when there's a certain balance between demand and supply. when such balance doesn't exist, a market tends to fail. that is... not how economics works. like, at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/16 08:53 PM
6

Look, if you had said "men they can have casual sex with don't want to commit to them", I wouldn't have said shit. But most men who have casual sex are marriage material and do consider commitment to he right person.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/16 07:38 PM
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Shit-testing is just part of flirting. If I'm not attracted to you and I don't respect you, I'm not going to flirt with you, and therefore I'm not going to shit-test you. IDK why all these dudes are so upset about normal flirting though. (Of course, I also feel a guy out-- some men don't like being shit-tested and prefer a different kind of flirting, and of course shit-testing an incel is like kicking a puppy.)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/16 07:36 PM
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Women are only attracted to men they can have casual sex with. Since those types of men are not exactly marriage material or even consider commitment, Dude, most men who have casual sex get married.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/16 07:34 PM
4

weirdo fetish poly BP people same
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 09:52 PM
3

I really don't think magic is a metaphor for sex in this movie. Jacob Kowalski is a muggle but he has a love interest (which is implied to continue after the movie). When you have a canonically gay, canonically evil character groping a cute vulnerable little twink, I think it's pretty safe to say it was intended to be canon.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 08:29 PM
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I'm not sure that love languages are like a real psychological thing, but IME they're a useful framework for nonjudgmentally having the conversation "I feel loved when you do X, Y, and Z" without it coming off as saying they're inadequate or don't really love you or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 04:26 PM
3

I don't think Credence is an incel. It's pretty strongly implied that he and Grindelwald are in an abusive relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 02:41 PM
1

You can freely say whatever you like about my appearance, and I can freely say you're an asshole. Isn't it so nice when everyone exercises their freedom?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 03:07 AM
1

I personally ship Christine/lesbianism
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 12:13 AM
1

Lifetime sexual partners means what people answer when they are asked the question "how many people have you had sex with in your life?"
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 11:42 PM
1

Wrong and wrong. Not a very good guesser, are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 11:41 PM
2

It seems to me like a really high-value man would find a relationship in which he is not a slave.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 10:29 PM
2

A man that marries becomes that woman's slave. He is expected to provide, protect, plus more till he dies for her and her children. All the man asks for is sex and support so he can go work better. I am constantly boggled by the low standards of many redpillers. Aren't y'all supposed to be high-value men who are the prize?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 09:18 PM
2

I respect some women's free decision to change themselves for their man, but I hold fast to the belief that it is disrespectful of a man to ask the woman to do this. This seems silly to me. If it's an okay thing to do, then it should be an okay thing to ask for too.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 09:18 PM
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As a sex-positive feminist, I believe people should have whatever relationship style they feel works best for them. If you're happiest in an egalitarian relationship, that's great! If someone else is happiest being their partner's supportive cheerleader and first mate, that's also great. People's needs are too variable to have a single framework that suits everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 09:17 PM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 07:57 PM
6

Extroversion. The more people you meet, the more likely it is you will find a compatible and attractive partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 06:13 PM
1

None of the above, care to guess again?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 02:58 PM
5

Yes, because money has diminishing marginal returns.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 11:58 PM
1

Why do you believe that?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 11:56 PM
2

Unfortunately for me, I majored in gender studies...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 08:12 PM
4

Let us define 'average man' as the middle sixty percent of the population. About seven percent of the population is morbidly obese. In order for the average man to be sleeping with a morbidly obese woman, the average morbidly obese woman would have to have a harem of nine men, none of whom are sleeping with anyone but her. This is not, to put it mildly, the world I see when I look out my window. It is not mathematically possible for the average man to be sleeping with a morbidly obese woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 05:24 PM
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I'm not sure why you're talking about your own outlier personal experiences when we're talking about the average man.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 05:15 PM
3

I said "overweight." The girl whose image I posted was, in fact, in the BMI category overweight. I don't know what that woman's BMI is, but eyeballing it I'd guess she's morbidly obese, which affects only about 7% of the US population. Thus, the average man would be unlikely to date a morbidly obese woman, unless he had a preference for morbidly obese women, or she had other very excellent traits that overrode it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 04:45 PM
2

Liberation is also the ability to change your mind when necessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 03:44 PM
1

Fifty percent genetics, fifty percent unshared environment (= everything two twins don't have in common with each other).
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 03:44 PM
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So what you're saying is that if average man is dating a girl like this, he is going to be like "ugh, I can't believe I'm dating such an uggo fat pig, I can't love someone so disgusting, why must I go through such indignities to get laid?"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 03:43 PM
2

Men also benefit from the social safety net, and women also pay taxes.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 04:17 AM
1

Read The Nurture Assumption. Studies have consistently shown that parenting has zero zilch no nada effect on the adult success or personality of children.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 04:06 AM
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...care to elaborate?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 03:58 AM
2

Virgins often wait a long time before having sex. And Archwinger didn't say when he dated his girlfriends-- it's very possible gf #1 was a high school sweetheart.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 03:48 AM
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How often does he get laid? If he decides he wants to get laid, how does he go about doing it and how easily can he do it? For example, if you say he goes to a bar, is he almost guaranteed success the first time he goes out on a Friday night? Will he need to go out a few times a week for a couple of weeks? Several weeks? The average man is in a relationship, and probably gets laid fairly easily from his girlfriend. In the event that he's single, hookups are probably fairly rare. He dates in his …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 03:32 AM
3

...more full of degenerate aesthetes? I mean, I'm not objecting, I'm a big fan of this plan. But it doesn't sound red to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 12:00 AM
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Any particular choice-- lifelong celibacy, kissing for the first time on your wedding day, dating two or three serious partners before meeting your wife, an orgy with your friends, drunken promiscuous sex-- isn't liberating. What is liberating is the ability to make the choice. Liberation isn't becoming a great leader and earning a lot of money. Liberation is the ability to prioritize becoming a great leader and earning a lot of money if you want to, or staying at home with your kids if you want…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/16 11:54 PM
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And it's like magic. If you have six other girls who want to fuck you, your current girl never seems to make problems This definitely does seem to me to be general advice directed at the average woman which doesn't necessarily apply to many people that men are in relationships with. The rest of your comment definitely seems to me to be saying "if TRP doesn't work on your girl, go find a girl TRP works on." Which is definitely a strategy, but won't appeal to anyone who has good reasons for wantin…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/16 11:23 PM
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I agree, but that's dating advice, not relationship advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/16 07:23 PM
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Sending off terrified body language when people flirt with them. This usually gets read as lack of interest-- even if they're scared because the person is so attractive!-- and then the other person respects the boundaries they're setting nonverbally and leaves.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/16 06:23 PM
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While I agree with the sentiment, I think it's a little weird to combine that with using a meme that's supposed to indicate (((secret Jews))) instead of, like, {{{secret cult leaders}}} or <<<secret people with very confused ideas about philosophy of aesthetics>>> or |||secret unethical sluts||| or whatever your objection is.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/16 06:00 PM
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Why are you putting Rand and Peikoff in ((())) but not Milton and David? Like, I have bad news for you about the ethnicity of people with the surname Friedman...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/16 04:06 PM
2

yeah actually no one likes the One Twoo Dom either, unfortunately for you
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/16 04:46 AM
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Yep! My dating life is A+.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 11:48 PM
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It's a roleplaying game. I have, unfortunately, entirely ruined my husband's motivation to have girlfriends through my shortsighted plan of having sex with him every day, and therefore he spends a lot of his free time working on the Bay Area superheroes game he's planning on GMing. Sad!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 10:48 PM
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There are no downsides. It's awesome. In my past life I was a virtuous gay man and I was rewarded for my good deeds by being reborn in a body in which I get a cornucopia of cock.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 08:54 PM
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My husband is happy that I leave him alone to play GURPS.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 06:54 PM
2

Dude, just say "fat". Fat activists have managed to standardize on the word everyone uses anyway. "Not allowed"? What does "not allowed" mean? Are the evil fat activists coming to your house and taking your boner away? Have they passed a law that for each thin girl you fuck you have to fuck one fat girl? Why are you letting random strangers decide your personal sex life?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 04:42 AM
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no one cares if you fuck fat women, dude. the fact that you can't say you don't want to fuck people without calling them mean names is a little concerning but, like, no one's feminist praxis is going "we need to get assholes who insult fat women to fuck fat women, STAT." fat women get more than enough sex from people who aren't assholes. they're not weeping into their pillows at night because some guy who calls people "fatty" won't fuck 'em.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 03:58 AM
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dude people cry foul over female preferences in this sub all the time
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 01:37 AM
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its apparently the only difference so that is descriptively/categorically all you are and ever can be is a pair of boobs. If you claim that the only difference between blondes and brunettes is the color of their hair, you're saying that descriptively/categorically all you are and all you can ever be is brown hair!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 01:36 AM
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I'm a gamine. I look terrible with long hair (much like the women given as examples of gamines in that blog). No lie, I jumped three points in conventional attractiveness the day I chopped my hair off. Different people have different haircuts that flatter them. I think it's a mistake to assume that one hairstyle flatters every facial shape. (And a lot of the TRP comments on the issue are just like "I don't like gamines!" Well, great, I'm happy for you? But I've got to rock the build I have, dude…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 12:08 AM
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The fuck kind of life does a high-value man have where "is willing to die for me" is a pressing issue? I think high-value men should consider getting the hell out of the war zone.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/16 08:45 PM
2

You just said that by sacrificing myself I am leaving the world better off and contributing to humanity, so... for the world and humanity?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/16 08:42 PM
2

By sacrificing yourself you're still leaving the world better off and contributing to humanity through your act. Yes...? What else am I supposed to do, not make the best decision?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/16 08:08 PM
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Why am I in a situation in which my husband can be expected to die for me in the first place? I would certainly choose to die in his place, and I would expect him not to sacrifice his life for me. He provides a much greater value to the world than I do and he is much more capable of surviving without my support. (It is possible that he would make the stupid wrong decision, but I'm not going to ask him, because whenever I mention the concept of my death he gets very sad.)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/16 06:28 PM
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I think that it is definitely true that if you pressure reluctant people into having sex with you then you will get more sex. If that's a tradeoff you want to make, I can't do much about it, but I probably wouldn't feel safe being alone with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/16 11:47 PM
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Thank you for your concern about my husband's health, but last time he got bloodwork the doctor told him that he had an excess of several vitamins commonly deficient in vegans and needed to reduce his consumption of them. I think I will pay attention to the people with medical degrees! But I'm so glad that you're concerned about his health. That sort of kindness to strangers is something we need more of in this world.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/16 11:46 PM
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Dude, if you want to exchange money for sex, hire a sex worker. If you buy someone a $500 dinner because you have a covert contract that dinners = sex, you have only yourself to blame.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/16 11:16 PM
1

My husband's vegan, I'm pretty sure he'd complain if I made him steak...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/16 11:11 PM
2

I have never had someone try to have sex with me without a condom unless I was in a long-term committed relationship. Monogamous people are apparently idiots.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/16 08:12 PM
1

I did not ask for advice. I have a therapist who is being paid truly mind-boggling amounts of money to deal with my mental health problems and I am not really interested in supplementing this with randos from Reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/16 04:14 PM
5

r/incel and r/foreveralone aren't exactly full of actionable advice...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/16 12:03 AM
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Then why are you calling it something related to the emotion she feels? If it was just about you, it should be called Boundaries Game or Desirability Game or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/16 08:07 PM
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It's very helpful! If my husband wanted to abandon me, he could, so therefore I can assume that if he hasn't abandoned me it is because he doesn't want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/16 07:03 PM
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I am happily married. On a rational level, I know it would be very hard for my husband to find someone he likes as much as me. On an emotional level, as a borderline, I have a crushing fear of abandonment. I am pretty sure my relationship would approve if I was less afraid of abandonment, because my husband is extremely tired of reassuring me that he doesn't hate me and isn't going to divorce me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/16 05:03 PM
2

dude just take ubers like god intended
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 11:14 PM
1

I found women who are very attractive to my own particular taste, but I understand that my taste isn't quite shared by everyone. But I really prioritize personality compatibility over looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 11:10 PM
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Don't assume that all other men have your low standards, dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 08:38 PM
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Write a blog and then hook up with people who have a crush on you from your writing. I assume a similar dynamic happens for any other level of tiny fame (local musician, YouTube celebrity...).
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 07:35 PM
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I hate to tell you this, but most men are also interested in status, money, how much a woman smiles and laughs, how many friends and resources a woman has, how full a woman's life is--how many "cool," "exciting" and prestigious things she is doing or connected to.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 07:29 PM
2

The thing I've seen that works best is a blunt, patient girl who is romantically interested in them. The romantic interest builds confidence and gives them experience, and the bluntness and patience helps them fix their other problems. Even that's not 100%, but it's the most effective thing I've seen. Unfortunately, this is hard to scale. And the girl actually has to like the guy, or she will give up halfway through the process and leave him with more issues than he started out.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 05:38 PM
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That's because we've never really had to think about it, before. It's not like we're born knowing what we take for granted. It's hard even for autistics. I've learned social skills, but I can't put all the things I've learned into declarative statements that will help others. Except "practice", I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 05:31 PM
1

Straight people are homophobic, news at 11.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 03:49 PM
1

I'm used to sharing interests with my partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 03:47 PM
1

The number of people in this thread who watch movies they don't like to please their partners makes me sad. I can't remember the last time I watched a movie that my husband didn't want to see. (Admittedly, I did have to convince him early in the relationship that Disney princess movies are good...)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 08:56 PM
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obviously it's a gay romcom about tyler and the narrator, duh
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 08:50 PM
2

It's funny! It has a romance arc! Are you saying that romantic comedies can't have lots of murder in them?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 06:13 PM
1

TIL that redpillers don't have nerves in their prostate.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 05:26 PM
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My husband and I watch romcoms all the time. We saw Deadpool the night it came out.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 05:07 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/4vcxd0/almost_all_men_are_stronger_than_almost_all_women/ That chart is of grip strength, BTW-- this is the skill involved in opening jars. Other kinds of physical strength are closer and often depends on how one defines strength. Needless to say, I do not think that grip strength is particularly relevant for much beyond deciding whose job it is to open stuck jars.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/16 01:46 AM
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There are population-level sex differences, some of which are a product of biology, some of which are a product of socialization, and most of which are a product of a combination. I do not think that population-level sex differences are particularly useful in understanding individual men and women whom one happens to interact with. In most traits with a sex difference, the two bell curves overlap a lot, and the within-sex variance is much larger than the between-sex variance. For instance, consi…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/16 01:40 AM
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Everyone has weird preferences. I chase after mathematicians. My husband goes gaga over a girl with a shaved head. I have a friend who's only attracted to trans people. Maybe there's some kind of deep psychological reason why we like what we like. But who cares? Don't date people that you don't want to date, and don't be a dickhead to people you don't want to date. There are more than enough people who are happy, even enthusiastic, about dating sluts.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 03:36 PM
2

Or it'll give him an instinctive urge to invest ~10% of the resources a baby needs from a father in the girl's offspring; the other nine men will feel a similar urge. There are two advantages to this for the man. First, if he dies, his child will still be ~90% taken care of; therefore, his resources are less likely to be wasted on a child who dies young if he dies. Second, there are diminishing marginal returns on resources; if he only has to invest ~10% of what the child needs, it's much more l…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 01:38 AM
5

dude chill
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 08:42 PM
1

Those are all feminist. We're talking, like, Cosmopolitan and shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 08:24 PM
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redpillwives is about being grateful you didn't marry a redpiller? man maybe I am a redpillwife
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 07:58 PM
2

I am suggesting that the predictable ways that humans act sexually include such controversial things as "in general, there are a finite number of hours in the day, and if you spend time doing one thing you have less time for other things", "introverts prefer to spend more time alone and not with their partners", and "people who only meet someone they want to date once a year or so tend not to have a lot of partners."
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 06:55 PM
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Because almost all the time, when a couple decides to open their marriage bilaterally, what happens is she gets lots more action than he does. This is not actually true. The most important variables in terms of who has more partners are free time, motivation, and pickiness. Gender is way more minor.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 05:46 PM
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Yeah if you read the poly advice books there is always a section about how to open a monogamous relationship and it says "DON'T, IT WILL END IN MISERY AND TEARS".
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 05:43 PM
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No. I don't want people who are only happy in monogamous relationships dating me.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 05:16 PM
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Here's the kicker: was that a necessary or sufficient condition for meeting him? Or are you romanticizing your notch count? Yes. Our first private conversation was when we traded nudes. We hooked up at a party and then wound up liking each other. I'm not sure if he'd have bothered to talk to me at first without a chance at sex; he tends to be quite introverted. As for sufficient: well, my husband was extraordinarily picky and apparently spent a lot of time dragging his feet as girls attempted to…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 05:15 PM
2

If it's not that simple, then it's probably unlikely to be a healthy relationship. Which is okay! Most people are not compatible with most people.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 04:45 PM
3

They evidently got a lot of people to want to sleep with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 04:45 PM
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I completely take responsibility for having tons of promiscuous sex that directly led to me meeting and having a happy marriage with my husband, who considers it a selling point.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 03:32 PM
3

Yes. I've been in such relationships. I think the correct attitude for the virgin to take is "shrug" or "I'm glad I'm having sex with such a hot person."
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 03:22 PM
7

I'm pretty sure kids take more time and mental/emotional investment and effort than spouses...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 06:08 PM
1

Sic, sum neuter. Specta flairem.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 02:24 PM
2

Dico linguam latinam quia sum inutile.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/16 08:20 PM
3

Other people have different sexual preferences than you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/16 03:26 AM
2

I personally don't think either extreme is necessarily healthy, but I can't help but point out she may have already "been with" dozens of men, and perhaps none of them picked her. What makes me so special in that case? Well, maybe she didn't have sex with anyone because she was so unattractive she couldn't get laid. What makes you so special in that case?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/16 03:26 AM
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Except that if she loved Paris and wanted to visit it all the time and you hated it and never wanted to see it again, you're in the exact same situation-- and I don't know that the one time of seeing Paris would provide all that much comfort, as opposed to just reminding Anna what she's missing. And if you've never been to Paris, this situation is impossible to avoid-- you can't know if you dislike it until you try it. On the other hand, in your hypothetical, since you know ahead of time that yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/16 03:24 AM
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Unfortunately for you, the decriminalization of heroin is considered by many public health experts to lead to fewer dead addicts. I am afraid you will end up with more of the "idiots" living.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/16 02:52 AM
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Well, you asked "why would it be disrespectful to show your sexual/romantic interest in someone?" and I answered. There's reasonable debate about when it's disrespectful-- personally, I don't think there's anything wrong with hitting on strangers, as long as you're not harassing them-- but I don't think anyone believes that it's never disrespectful. And that doesn't mean that sexual desire itself is disrespectful.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/16 09:42 PM
1

You can try to meet people at places that are filtered for compatibility: for instance, I have a friend who flirts with girls at bookstores. But even the grocery store isn't negatively correlated with compatibility, as clubbing is for many people. Everyone goes grocery shopping, but lots of introverts never go clubbing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/16 09:04 PM
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Sexual desire isn't in and of itself disrespectful but it sure as hell can be disrespectful in some contexts. For instance, most people will frown at you if you hit on a woman at the deathbed of her husband of sixty years. There's nothing wrong with your boner for the Grandma I'd Like To Fuck, but you should probably wait until the dead guy's cold first. Similarly, there is nothing wrong with liking a nice ass, but yelling "nice ass" at a complete stranger at midnight is unlikely to be appreciat…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/16 09:00 PM
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Day game is 100% fine as long as you don't bother women who are conveying their lack of interest in being talked to (e.g. headphones), you back off if she doesn't seem interested, and you keep it subtle at first (e.g. don't open with "nice ass").
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/16 08:58 PM
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I know you have different sexual values than me and I'm glad you're happy; this isn't a criticism at all of your life choices. But it does seem to me that "she could have been with dozens of men but she picked me" is at least as validating as "she didn't have sex with anyone but me". It's okay to prefer one or the other, but I think it's a mistake to say that dating a promiscuous person can't be validating.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/16 08:53 PM
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I do not know what your comment means.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/16 08:50 PM
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No sex act is inherently dominant or submissive. You're going to tell me that it's submissive to lie back and get fucked with my hand around a guy's throat saying that he better fuck me good because if he comes too soon I'll make him lick it up? You're going to tell me that tying up a guy and edging him with my mouth until he cries is submissive?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/16 07:02 PM
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How do you know if you can 'usually' suss it out if you don't have any way of checking?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/16 06:55 PM
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She has one partner who is very enthusiastic about sex with her. Chubby chasers exist, dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/16 06:53 PM
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Pussy drying. He's an asexual, neuter, male. He doesn't inspire tingles, or if he did before, he wouldn't after a near complete lack of interest in sex. Women EXPECT men to want to fuck, so they get repulsed by men who don't want to fuck. Dude, if she were repulsed by the idea of sex with her partner, then the dead bedroom wouldn't exactly be a problem, would it? There would be no reason to break up.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/16 06:03 PM
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Dude, it's an example. I literally don't give a shit about your genitals or about your opinions about your genitals.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/16 06:00 PM
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Monogamy doesn't require 'owning' your partner. Jesus. If you both don't want to fuck other people, then be monogamous! Good for you! Have fun!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/16 04:59 PM
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I think if someone says "I don't want to date a slut because what about all of the men with larger dicks that she's fucked before?", that seems to be insecurity. If they just say "I don't like women with high N counts because I don't", shrug.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/16 04:54 PM
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It is possible for a woman to do nice things for people to make them feel special other than have sex with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/16 04:43 PM
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IDK about what some rando on the Internet's preferences for an LTR are, but it is annoying when they conclude that their preferences are the same as the preferences of every other man on the planet. Some guys are perfectly happy to court a slut, win her, do everything to make her happy, be prince charming incarnated and live happily ever after.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/16 04:39 PM
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I can see knowing that you have a half hour of work every day that your husband doesn't have to do, engaging in multiplication, and then deciding that however nice he is you'd be much more content with only having to do fifteen minutes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 01:01 PM
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I think it depends on what the guy's problem is. I've known a couple of incels where the problem was basically that they weren't confident, and the fact that a person was actually attracted to them managed to clear that right up. Others have more complicated problems and wind up still having them after they've gotten laid. And whether or not it fixes everything, a loving supportive partner is a huge help in dealing with any sort of mental problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 12:47 PM
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Incels who have friends are usually way less depressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 12:44 PM
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So the answer is that you can't? You had no examples except Sheryl Sandberg before OP posted this? He did you a great service, literally doubling your examples of AF/BB.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 12:42 PM
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there are many people who say the exact same thing in different way. So... can you link me to some of those many people?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 05:02 AM
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What is it with redpillers and that quote? Surely if AF/BB is such a thing you can find more than the one lady advising people to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 01:32 AM
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Sometimes going out there and doing things that build confidence means saying "I don't care what you believe, but if you keep saying that around me, I am not going to spend time with you anymore." Or making rational arguments that someone is full of shit. Or telling others that they don't actually have to give a shit about dumbasses and their dumbass opinions.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/16 07:44 PM
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My (male) Creative Writing professor told the class that sex/masturbation scenes are the most boring scenes for readers to read, & to instead just say "they made love." This is just because profic authors don't know how to advance plot and characterization through sex. As soon as the clothes come off, it transforms into Generic Attractive People Having Fourteen Orgasms purple prose. Say what you will about fanfiction, but fanfiction writers are way ahead of profic writers in terms of sex scenes …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/16 04:58 PM
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I find it hard to believe that most people will be able to really have those extras (including emotional attachment) and then simply go and sleep with someone else. Well, okay. Most people shouldn't have open relationships, then. That has no effect on whether it's a good idea for actual poly people.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/16 09:45 PM
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Cucks are guys with crippling insecurity that got cheated on and now their brain gets turned on by reliving the trauma of finding out she has been fucking a tall, muscular and hung alpha. They think that they are worthless and can't please her and thus need her to get fucked by a real man. Dude, it's just a fetish. Some girls like being called worthless cockhungry sluts, it doesn't mean they have low-self-esteem or that they actually think it's bad to have sex with lots of guys. Having a humilat…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/16 09:43 PM
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How is being poly avoiding responsibility and consequences? My actions have consequences that affect, like, five times as many people.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/16 02:53 PM
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IME, in poly scenes de facto mono/poly is actually not uncommon. It usually happens when the de facto mono person is super-busy or super-picky.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/16 02:50 PM
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It's true that your chance of losing your virginity drops over time, but hope never goes away entirely: I have an uncle who got his first kiss when he was sixty and he still wound up being happily married for the last two decades of his life. But, honestly, it's the same shit I always go on about with incels. You have to make platonic friends. When you get a crush on one of your platonic friends, you have to ask her out. When you creep someone out-- which everyone does when they're learning!-- y…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/16 04:13 AM
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Well, yeah, but personality's pretty set by adulthood. If you're a neurotic uncool person, you just have got to live with being a neurotic uncool person, and not go around making decisions as if you are a normal person.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/16 04:03 AM
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This is not true, I personally know dozens of men who have gotten relationships despite being virgins when they graduated college.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/16 03:48 AM
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Man, some of the people in this thread are down enough on drinking that I'm pretty sure that's shitty advice for them. Like, most people who go to bars drink, and nobody wants a relationship where you're constantly fighting over whether having a glass of wine with dinner means you're ruining your health.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/16 03:46 AM
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Start a blog and fuck your readers. Move to the Bay Area and leech off the friends of your roommates.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/16 06:14 PM
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He said 18. And "low end of normal" is also not optimal health-- there's a reason that some public health professionals consider only 20-25 BMI to be "normal weight" and 18.5-20 to be borderline underweight.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/16 08:51 PM
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Professionals have a high level of stigma against those with borderline personality disorder. So I often take their viewpoints with a grain of salt. I agree that threatening to kill yourself when someone leaves is an abusive action, and even something that isn't a deliberate threat ("if you leave I'll kill myself!") can have the effect of causing someone to be reluctant to leave. But I think that in a non-abusive relationship, once the person realizes the harm they're causing, they'll take steps…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/16 08:29 PM
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The man of my dreams told me to gain fifteen pounds so I would have optimal fertility for when we have kids. But wait, I forgot, fertility is only attractive when you're talking about youth! In terms of weight, you want a girl who is so skinny that she probably isn't ovulating, and even if she is the baby will have low birthweight and have to stay in the NICU so there's a chance of it surviving. Evolution!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/16 08:22 PM
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Money buys you happiness, it's just logarithmic. If you give a thousand dollars to someone making $10,000 a year it buys exactly as much happiness as giving eight billion dollars to Bill Gates.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/16 08:13 PM
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If I read a guy say that he would only date fat women because the main value a woman brings to the table is her weight, I would sure as fuck judge him.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/16 08:10 PM
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That is not how feminists, as a group, use the term "sexual objectification." You can certainly argue that "objectification" is not a very useful term-- I don't use it myself-- but if you go around using a term to mean something it doesn't mean you're just going to have a bunch of really frustrating and pointless arguments.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/16 08:05 PM
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I agree with your description of what happens but I don't think it's useful to characterize that behavior as manipulative. I prefer to reserve the word "manipulative" for conscious manipulation, rather than broadening it to mean anything which has an effect (intended or unintended) on another person's behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/16 08:03 PM
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A nice normal literally underweight BMI? That puts you at risk of malnutrition, bone loss, infertility, anemia, and poor immune function? Ah, yes, of course, I will definitely fuck up my health for the purpose of pleasing your boner.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/16 08:00 PM
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I'm a borderline with an absurdly low Dark Triad score. (I think last time I took a quiz I scored in the first percentile for everything except Machiavellianism, where I was all the way up in third percentile.)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/16 07:22 PM
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No, they aren't. That's just factually wrong. I have been around many many many adults who write fanfiction, and they are mostly gainfully employed.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/16 03:09 AM
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I thought we were talking about adults?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/16 02:30 AM
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Fanfiction writers are mostly, like, grad students and teachers and programmers though.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/16 02:18 AM
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If you're worried about being high status and cool, you're not.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/16 02:14 AM
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As an adult, you live in your own social bubble with its own arcane status hierarchies. Occasionally you poke your head out into the rest of the world and then go "wow, I'm so glad I don't have to put up with that dumpster fire".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/16 12:35 AM
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I think they're pretty and I like men who have turned themselves into beautiful works of art.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/16 02:03 AM
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The latter seems incorrect. I am an emotionally damaged, dependent person and yet he was not interested in dating me. I think he was just legitimately interested in girls who were shy (possibly because assertive girls are scary and threatening?).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/16 06:23 PM
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Books that really influenced my thoughts on the issue: The Ethical Slut, Yes Means Yes, Whipping Girl, Excluded, More Than Two, Public Sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/16 04:20 PM
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I agree that it is wrong to insult, dismiss, and demonize incel people. That does not mean that the treatment of incel people is "essentially the same" as the treatment of LGBT people in Russia.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/16 07:18 PM
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He was like "I'm only attracted to shy girls." I was like "how exactly are you, a person who is terrified to talk to people, planning on dating a shy girl?" He was like "I don't know."
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/16 04:50 PM
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I did. We're happily married. He thought it was a selling point.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/16 04:44 PM
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Yep. I've been turned down. One time I got turned down by an incel guy, actually, which I felt was hilarious.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/16 04:42 PM
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I mean, if you have fatigue issues, of course you're going to move around less, and of course that's going to mean you're fatter. Look, I've known people with serious fatigue issues, and a lot of times when they work as hard as they can it looks like taking a shower twice a week and seeing friends once. You can't judge disabled people with the same standards you use to judge abled people.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/16 04:41 PM
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A lot of incels want someone to be attracted to them and to want to spend time with them for them-- which is a basic human need! Totally reasonable! But when you're shy and awkward it can be hard. I think that encouraging committed nonsexual/nonromantic friendships are a really important way of reducing harm for a lot of incels. IME, the incels I've known who have a couple of strong, lifelong friendships are way less distressed than those that don't have a romantic partner or any friends. Our cu…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/16 04:38 PM
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Also: idolizing Elliot Rodgers is bad whether or not you're an incel. Being a misogynist is bad whether or not you're an incel. Whether someone is unable to get laid is irrelevant to the actual problem here.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/16 04:35 PM
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That is both untrue and offensive. I have LGBT Russian friends who had to leave their homeland because they were afraid of violence and rape for being LGBT. No one is going to attack, torture, or rape you for being incel. It's possible to talk about your own very legitimate pain without claiming it's the same as other people's worse situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/16 04:33 PM
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Being a bluepiller does not require agreement with every piece of nonsense another bluepiller says.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/16 04:31 PM
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The thing that causes the most distress to the average incel isn't sex, it's low self-esteem and loneliness.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/16 12:13 AM
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I think it's wrong to make fun of incels as a group. Some incels are kind of terrible people, but most incels are perfectly nice, ethical people who happen to be shy and awkward. Mocking them is like making fun of unemployed people for being unemployed or cancer patients for having cancer.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/16 12:12 AM
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Has it occurred to you that possibly he was lazy because he had a fatigue disorder? Constantly tired people tend to not do much, news at eleven
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/16 12:10 AM
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Some of us have pathways to self-improvement that don't involve genitals.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/16 12:09 AM
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Many people find romance enjoyable and wish to have a primary romantic relationship. If you are a heterosexual man, you are unlikely to fall in love with a man, outside of some very interesting genres of fiction commonly written on the Internet. However, there is nothing wrong with having a primary platonic relationship with a man if you so choose. Unfortunately, either way you do it you are likely to face some stigma: either you give up and get read as a gay couple and face homophobia, or you s…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/16 12:49 AM
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IME, I get catcalled at least once every time I walk around outside without a man for more than about fifteen minutes. I don't think it's, like, a huge deal or anything, but it's certainly unpleasant and I wish someone could manage to fix it somehow.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/16 07:46 PM
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I'm a feminist, I don't think the different sets of rules are a good idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/16 11:07 PM
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Psychologically: men have higher sociosexualities, more spontaneous sexual desire and less responsive sexual desire, and a higher risk of committing violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/16 06:53 PM
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Yeah, there are plenty of women who think that oppositional sexism is great. Women have the same diversity of opinions that men do. It's part of that whole "women being people" thing that feminists are allegedly so in favor of.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/16 06:45 PM
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Male submissives exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/16 04:26 PM
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I'm agnostic about the dysgenics theory, but I believe the argument is that highly educated, high IQ, and upper-class couples are disproportionately likely to have few to no children.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/16 04:24 AM
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So date a sweet, demure, submissive, obedient nasty whore, and don't block women from being independent and rising up the corporate ladder? Like, there's nothing wrong with a person (of any gender) being a sweet, demure, submissive, obedient nasty whore; the problem is when people of a certain gender are required to be that, regardless of their personal preferences on the matter. It's not contradictory to support people's freedom and also choose to spend your life with someone who uses their fre…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/16 12:35 AM
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I believe that abortion should be legal, but I personally think abortion is unethical. That said, there are many good reasons why an unethical decision might be the best decision for an individual person, and I don't consider it my job to police others about such a harrowing choice. I would not have an abortion if I found myself pregnant. I've discussed this with my husband and we've agreed to do a paternity test on any unplanned children. If they are not my husband's, I will offer the father th…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/16 07:14 PM
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There are men with every possible attractive trait who are not happily coupled, because one's sexual success is not determined purely by a single trait. A couple threads ago we had a video from an incel who was buff as fuck, that doesn't mean that muscles are somehow unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/16 10:49 PM
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I don't mean a Chad, and I don't mean a beta bucks, I mean a high value guy who wants to commit to having a family, and places more emphasis on what he makes than on his sex life. shrug I'm a slut, and I'm married to a high-value guy who wants to commit to having a family. The sluts I know have also not found any particular problems doing so. Maybe you shouldn't generalize your desires to everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/16 10:38 PM
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If you're talking about pelvic inflammatory disease, then yes, getting tested for STIs protects you against infertility, because the STIs that cause PID are all treatable with a course of antibiotics, and you're not going to get PID after six months of infection.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/16 10:33 PM
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As an additional gift, many pick up plenty of diseases and other fertility threatening infections along the way. So get tested every six months? Like, honestly, it is not THAT hard to piss in a cup occasionally.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/16 05:05 PM
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She's really not that hot... like, she's decent-looking, I wouldn't kick her out of bed or anything, but she's like normal attractive person, not like mind-numbingly I-can't-talk-while-she's-around beautiful. And none of the normal attractive people I know have any of these problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/16 04:16 PM
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I personally think it's very convenient that such men identify themselves early before I accidentally waste six months dating them. I don't have a huge desire to date assholes.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/16 04:07 PM
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There's already a market for porn for women. It's thriving. Google Ellora's Cave. Why do you think women have to like the same kind of porn men do?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/16 07:40 PM
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You choose whether to have kids, but lots of people are offended by the idea that parents are mindless breeders. You choose your religion, but lots of people are offended if you insult their religion (or lack thereof). You choose whom you marry, but lots of people are offended if you say their choice sucked. It is totally possible to be offended about something that you chose. Also, that's not what "gender is a social construct" means.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/16 07:38 PM
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I have met several asexual men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/16 07:33 PM
2

Neil Gaiman's best work is Sandman, which he did create as a young man (although married).
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/16 07:30 PM
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Imagine for a moment a society where sex and mating were entirely a male choice; individuals have sex whenever and with whomever men want, not whenever and with whomever women want. What would happen in such a society? Absolutely nothing, because people would never stop having sex! There would be no civilization in such a society, because people would not do anything besides have sex. This, incidentally, is the reason why gay men never stop having sex: there are no women in their relationships t…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/16 07:28 PM
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Most women who aren't alcoholics will either not drink or drink lightly, neither of which pose a significant risk to the child. I don't think punishing alcoholics for drinking will have much of an effect in getting them to stop drinking. All it'll do is make women dishonest with their doctors about how much they drink, which means the doctor can't account for her drinking in their clinical decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/16 07:13 PM
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Man, if I were married to that dude I wouldn't want to have sex with him either. Also, a woman with a BMI of 26 is not 'torturing' her husband by any reasonable measure.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 11:11 PM
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IIRC, underweight is still more dangerous than overweight, even controlling for level of sickness (and cigarette smoking, which is the other big factor). I can try to look for cites if you're interested?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 11:06 PM
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I hope you appreciate your relationship with an anorexic asexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 07:34 PM
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Below the normal BMI range is unhealthily skinny. You are significantly more likely to die because of your weight at a BMI of 18.3 than at a BMI of 26.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 02:35 PM
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Holy shit, I just saw this. Your wife is barely overweight. When you married her, she was underweight, which puts her at risk of severe immune issues, vitamin deficiencies, weak bones, and anemia. Underweight is actually more dangerous than obesity. Your wife has become significantly healthier in the time since you married her. I'm sorry that you're primarily aroused by unhealthily skinny people, but just as chubby chasers need to recognize that their partner losing weight is better for them ove…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 12:51 PM
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The three options you tried were douchebaggy and hurt someone that you love and have merged your life with. And it doesn't work-- fat shaming only makes people fatter. If you had only tried respectful, positive, and loving methods of encouraging your partner to have a healthy lifestyle, then I wouldn't say shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 12:40 PM
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I've tried everything from shaming, to guilt tripping, to buying her dresses 2 sizes too small. Yes, those are all the possible options, loving support and modeling a health-oriented lifestyle definitely isn't on the list...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 12:13 PM
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My husband's response to this advice was "that sounds very cute, but it probably wouldn't make me have any more vulnerable conversations with you."
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 03:38 AM
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My husband tends to be quiet and non-introspective. I am prone to obsessive self-analysis. It sort of upset me early in our relationship that my husband preferred to obsessively analyze GURPS instead. Over time, I've actually found this problem to diminish. I've learned to cherish the few times he expresses his feelings and worldview and vulnerabilities; over time, this builds up into a complete picture. And I've realized that I can do detective work: I can figure out how my husband's brain work…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 02:06 AM
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There's nothing inherently wrong with going to see a stripper before your wedding, but marriages don't work well if you don't share values and if your partner isn't willing to avoid doing things that make you upset (even if your partner thinks it is kind of silly). So if it's a really core part of your sexual values that people shouldn't see a stripper, your wife's response should really be "jeez, why the fuck would I go see a stripper?" And if it just really upsets you, then she should respect …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/16 07:42 PM
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I explicitly didn't say what my position was about why MIT students are more likely than average to be virginal. I don't think I have a solid opinion on this. My point is that there are several plausible explanations, and that we cannot assume that MIT students are more likely to be virginal because intelligence isn't attractive in the absence of other evidence. FWIW, your arguments are the ones I think are most plausible (although people who are genuinely unmotivated by the prospect of getting …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/16 07:31 PM
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So women can be too busy to have sex but men can't? Do you think that Christian woman would have lied on an anonymous survey? How high do you think the rate of evangelical Christianity is among MIT students?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/16 07:28 PM
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Spider-man is Marvel. Fake nerd boys, I swear... The DCAU also has Joker and Harley, who are the definition of "treat a girl like shit and she will worship you". (Poor Harley.)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/16 04:14 PM
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Oh, yes, let me try that. "Honey! We're going to be in a dead bedroom except when I'm conceiving a child!" [gets served with divorce paperwork]
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/16 03:15 PM
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The study was stopped before the drug was approved, so it's really more forcing men to not buy BC they may or may not like the side effects of. If men as a group don't want to take BC, that's fine, but they really ought to stop complaining about women who don't get abortions then.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/16 03:14 PM
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Man, The Red Pill is full of the most men I've ever met who regularly watched Disney princesses growing up. Did you all have sisters or something? Most of the men I knew grew up watching the DC Animated Universe.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/16 03:05 PM
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But what if myself is lazy, unenthusiastic in bed, prone to wearing sweatpants, and kind of a dickbag?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/16 01:08 AM
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Can you explain why female MIT students are more likely to be virginal than male MIT students?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 10:49 PM
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A properly positioned dildo stimulates one's clitoris; in addition, many women enjoy Feeldoes, which stimulate both the G-spot and the clitoris of the penetrating partner. The thing you're describing is completely doable with a strapon. I guess that, like, a strapon can't feel your vagina? But honestly I am not sure that it's obvious whether "partner experiences the physical sensation of my vagina" beats out "never need to worry about my partner losing their erection, also it vibrates".
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 08:29 PM
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why the fuck would I envy a penis. now, tentacles, those I envy. when will science bring me a couple of prehensile tentacle genitals like god intended
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 08:00 PM
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why are you invested in following me around pointing out that I'm trans like... I know?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 07:22 PM
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Do you understand the distinction between using a toy as part of sex with a living, breathing, warm-blooded human being and using a toy by yourself? Like, do you understand that there is a difference between a man using a fleshlight by himself and me tying up a man and using a fleshlight on him? Like, I'm not talking about sticking the dildo to the wall and fucking it, I'm talking about fucking a girl who has strapped it on. This still has the advantages of seeing her beautiful facial expression…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 07:07 PM
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My point is that there is a difference between whether people are attracted to you and whether you are motivated to have sex with people. If MIT students are generally unmotivated to have sex, they will have a lot of virgins.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 07:02 PM
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are you familiar with the concept of a 'thought experiment' u/gavinok in philosophy class: "I guarantee you that it has NEVER happened that five people have been tied to the trolley tracks and the only way to stop it is to push a fat man in front"
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 06:53 PM
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Thinking about math theorem = intelligence What does that have to do with anything? Like, imagine this scenario: Herd of Math Groupies: (throw underwear in front of Paul Erdos, faint when he briefly glances at them, write FUCK ME PAUL ERDOS on their tits) Paul Erdos: (thinks about math) Herd of Math Groupies: oh PLEASE Erdos PLEASE fuck us senseless our pussies are DRIPPING for you Paul Erdos: ugh, why are all these naked women CONSTANTLY distracting me from discrete mathematics In this scenario…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 06:23 PM
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I don't have to wait around for a girl to jerk herself off so that the strapon can stay hard. I don't have to sit there bored and sore waiting for the strapon to ejaculate so we can be done. The strapon doesn't come after three minutes and then roll over and go to sleep. The strapon does not have a refractory period. The strapon can vibrate.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 06:09 PM
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Alternate explanations for the data: Men who attend church more are more likely to be religious, and thus more likely to save sex for marriage and less likely to engage in casual sex. Men who drink more alcohol are more likely to be in situations where casual sex is acceptable. Disagreeable people who commit crimes are more likely to cheat on their partners. Disagreeable people who commit crimes are less likely to be interested in long-term monogamous relationships than agreeable people who don'…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 06:05 PM
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You can't assume that the only possible explanation for MIT students being more likely to be virginal is women not being attracted to them. In particular, both male MIT students and female MIT students are virginal-- in fact, the female MIT students are much more likely to be virginal! If it's just an attractiveness issue, why aren't the MIT students-- presumably of equal levels of attractiveness-- having sex with each other? Alternate explanations: MIT tends to select for people who, given a ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 05:58 PM
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man, why are all these people going on about physics. You're not REALLY aroused by intelligence unless you're turned on by a guy who can press a button really fast in response to a visual stimulus
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 05:50 PM
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I'm a certified crazy! Got the papers to prove it. :) But yeah you gotta have a sense of humor about this sort of thing, or it'll kill you. Gloomy and miserable is no way to go through life, even if you're suicidally depressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 05:44 PM
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you know what I mean. he's the thing you use to generate power for the electric plant.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 05:44 PM
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People who like fucking trans men: lesbians; gay men; my husband People who like fucking trans women: lesbians; straight men; the occasional straight woman who married a sweet, sensitive programmer who likes wearing nail polish and struggles with depression
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 05:43 PM
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A trap is a person with a dick who looks like a hot woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 05:57 PM
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I feel extremely called out by that comic.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 05:56 PM
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To be fair, "u/Entropy-7's first girlfriend" isn't exactly identifying information that allows you to figure out who the person is. And if he's like me he changed some of the details; whenever I tell an anecdote from my life, locations and occupations and other extraneous details get changed to confuse Internet detectives.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 05:26 PM
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Straight dude thing. Not a gay dude thing. I have never met a gay dude who was like "man, what I REALLY want is to fuck someone with boobs and a dick." They want no boobs and a dick because, you know, they're gay.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 04:58 PM
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I mean, sure, if you're having casual sex casting a wide net is a good idea. But if you're going for an LTR you're LTRing up one person out of the 7 billion people that exist in the world. You can afford to be a little bit picky. And dating someone who makes your brain issues better rather than worse is a necessity, not a luxury.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 03:15 PM
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Gay dudes aren't into trans ladies. Straight dudes are. It's a purely heterosexual hobby. Although your friend should probably sort out his issues with a friend or a therapist before making a trans woman deal with that shit, they're super fucking tired of having to put up with straight boys' "BUT WHAT IF THIS MAKES ME GAY?" nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 03:12 PM
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depends on which kind. I have sad news for you if you're chasing buck angel
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 03:09 PM
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But what if I want to lose them? Like, I don't think that people who freak out about my tragic backstory are going to do well in a LTR with me. Dating a compatible person is much more important than dating any warm body.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 03:04 PM
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The first conversation on my first date looks like this and if they can't keep up I dump them. Like, honestly, if you are going to Have A Feeling about my hilarious mental hospital anecdotes, why would I even want to date you?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 02:02 PM
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So you agree with me that she's not a feminist?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 01:59 PM
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Of course TERFs are feminists. Their beliefs are influenced by many feminist thinkers, such as Andrea Dworkin, Catherine MacKinnon, Janice Raymond, Germaine Greer, Mary Daly, Julie Bindel, and Sheila Jeffreys. Can you list half a dozen twentieth century feminist thinkers that had a tremendous influence on Sommers's thought? I say that she's not being nonconformist because she works for a conservative, anti-feminist think tank. If she were working for NOW and writing the books she writes, she wou…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 12:03 AM
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What? This paper is about how women have agency; that's literally the thesis. Maybe you should read things before you link them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 12:01 AM
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I... don't?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 07:47 PM
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I support the right of all people to obtain hormones under an informed-consent framework. However, taking excess testosterone is likely to cause your testosterone to aromatize into estrogen. I suspect most doctors would simply recommend that you take estrogen, if that were your desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 07:46 PM
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When I googled "Jessica Valenti perjury," I got articles about her quitting social media over threats of raping her five-year-old, an article in which she is quoted as urging us to "believe victims en masse", and A Voice for Men calling her a bigot, none of which seem to be Jessica Valenti saying that it is okay for false accusers to commit perjury. Since you're the person who made the claim, it really behooves you to provide a citation upon request.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 07:41 PM
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In general, think tanks hire people who agree with them. The Cato Institute is not going to employ a communist for very long, nor is the Human Rights Watch going to employ someone who thinks that killing children in war isn't a war crime.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 06:41 PM
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Could you provide a link, please?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 06:40 PM
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Julia Serano doesn't believe that men can't experience sexism, but it's true that most feminists do; she's definitely an outlier on that. (Look! Feminists! Disagreeing with each other! :)) Can you point me to an example of a feminist (who isn't, like, some rando with a blog, but someone who has published books or articles in mainstream feminist publications) who believes that women are morally justified in committing perjury or that females don't have agency?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 06:09 PM
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But Sommers and Paglia aren't feminists. Paglia hasn't had a good word to say about a feminist after de Beauvoir. Sommers's claim to feminism appears to be that she thinks women should have the right to vote, a definition which would imply that 99% of the American public are feminists; she currently works for AEI, a conservative organization which will not be threatened by any negative thing she has to say about feminism. If you put reasonable constraints on the definition of feminism-- like "th…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 05:08 PM
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Not knowing about more than two jokes is, sadly, a general anti-feminist problem and not just yours. More's the pity.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 05:00 PM
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You know, that doesn't make any sense or have any connection to what I was saying, but I am just SO PROUD of you for making a third joke. I knew that with hard work and dedication eventually this day would come! (wipes away tear from eye)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 04:30 PM
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Well, I think part of the problem here is that feminists actually do disagree with you. I don't think that CHS is presenting the feminist movement in a positive light-- certainly not compared to a figure like Raewyn Connell or bell hooks. That said, I think a good sample of Serano's work on masculinity-- which relates to this sub!-- is Why Nice Guys Finish Last from the book Yes Means Yes. (You'll have to ctrl+F to find it.)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 04:28 PM
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So as I was saying.. I'm an AH-64 Attack Helicopter. Hopefully I'll find meself a Cobra to make Littlebirds some day. jesus fucking christ. FIND A THIRD JOKE. Here, I'll help: "people say rape jokes are edgy, but I don't think they're so edgy. Who's going to complain? Rape survivors? They don't even report rape."
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 04:13 PM
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triggering intensifies Someday you will be able to come up with a third joke. I believe in you. I have faith. Femininity / masculinity is defined by a hormonal mixture. Testosterone creates a man. Yes, that is why I inject it in my quad every week, do catch up. Read some fucking school-level biology books, ffs Read some Anne Fausto-Sterling and consider that not everything known about biology was taught in grade school.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 04:08 PM
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Can someone please explain why anti-feminists are so deficient in sense of humor? Most of you could be replaced by a bot that alternates "attack helicopter" and "triggered". Like, feminists have an excuse, we're trying to avoid making politically incorrect jokes, which leaves a lot of humor off-limits. But you guys have all of comedy and yet you resort to "ha ha I'm an attack helicopter". George Carlin is rolling over so much in his grave that you could power an electric plant off it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 04:05 PM
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Given your misgendering of her, I suspect you'd disagree that she's a reasonable feminist if you looked more closely into her work. That said, I adore her. The care and nuance she puts into her thinking about gender is a model to us all.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 04:00 PM
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Julia Serano was born in 1967... But in practice I don't consider any of the women you mentioned to be feminists, so. shrug I suspect what you're observing is the shocking fact that feminists disagree with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 03:57 PM
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I don't date older men who don't date people their own age. On the best-case scenario, they're very shallow. On the worst-case scenario, they are looking for someone with less money/experience that they can take advantage of. Other than that, same things I look for in anyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 01:52 PM
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I think we have already established that we have diametrically opposed sexual tastes, which is fine by me. I can keep the sublimely beautiful femboys and you can have the beardy felons or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 03:36 AM
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People who don't want to bang femboys cannot appreciate beauty.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 03:24 AM
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1) My husband used to read Roissy and agrees with some of it but jumped ship when it got too slut-hatey and racist. Other than that, he's not much connected to the manosphere. 2) I mean, I very much doubt he reads everything I write online, but I only use the one pseud, so he certainly could if he so chose. I don't think he'd find anything surprising except exactly how much time I waste on PPD. :P
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 03:23 AM
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I would be very upset at him for lying; being told the truth is extremely important to me. I have many more problems with my husband lying to me than I do with him being a redpiller. I would want to have him explain to me what he gets out of the Red Pill. I know my husband and he's not a misogynist, so that would be a major piece of evidence that I had misunderstood something; I'd ask him to explain why he believes what he believes, and perhaps I would come to agree with him. Other than the lyin…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 01:58 PM
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yeah like what the fuck would porn get out of conditioning people to be turned on by rape... porn is kinky because men like kink
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/16 02:53 PM
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They don't need buildup? What do you think seduction is?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/16 06:46 PM
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Did you know: literally half of all Americans are pro-life and therefore believe abortion is murder Did you know: it is not being 'irresponsible' to not do something you sincerely believe is murder because not murdering people is inconvenient
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/16 06:41 PM
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"Okay, cool, let's snuggle."
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/16 02:36 PM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pederasty#England
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/16 11:00 PM
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and then what will happen to my nude selfie supply? smh. I don't want to be punished because some other douchebag doesn't understand the concept of ethics
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/16 10:58 PM
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Well, yeah, but she's his teacher. There's a power dynamic there and the sex is unethical and should be illegal, IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/16 10:57 PM
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Man, if you start shaming women who send people nude selfies, they aren't going to send anyone nude selfies anymore. SUPER-inconsiderate.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/16 10:53 PM
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It's a Catholic school? It doesn't get public funding? Except probably in some areas with a voucher system, which my state wasn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 02:00 PM
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So you agree that what women are mentally aroused by (i.e. the things they will jerk off to or that will cause them to seek out sex) is different from what they are physically aroused by (i.e. the things that cause vaginal wetness). Specifically, animals fucking is in the latter group, but not the former. Therefore, u/Five_Decades cannot use the difference between female mental arousal and female physical arousal as evidence for his point that women don't understand what causes them to seek out …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 07:18 PM
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Okay, so you think that women as a group are going to, say, jerk off to Animal Planet?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 06:58 PM
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For the men, what their minds say and what their bodies respond to are the same. For women their bodies and minds diverge. Women are aroused by things they consciously think they are not aroused by. If you accept that argument, you have to buy that women want to fuck bonobos. Personally, I think the most plausible explanation is that female genital arousal and mental arousal are unrelated, and that female genital arousal is related to cues that sex is happening, perhaps as an adaptation to reduc…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 04:56 PM
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Worst acronym collision EVER, particularly given the similarity in symptoms.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 04:36 PM
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So you agree that the chart provides no evidence one way or the other and you're instead going off "common knowledge".
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 04:36 PM
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I agree that it shows correlation, but if A and B are correlated, then A may cause B, B may cause A, or C may cause both A and B. The chart is not sufficient to establish which of these are true.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 03:07 PM
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Bisexual female. When I was in Catholic high school, we had a school assembly about how we shouldn't have sex until marriage, which included a skit. In the skit, the man and the woman were exchanging shoes. The man's shoes were fresh and new, while the woman's shoes were worn out. Man: "It looks like the whole football team wore these!" Woman: "I made them all wear socks!" Man: "Socks don't protect against my broken heart! Or foot fungus." The advice we were supposed to take away from this was "…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 01:37 PM
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"Okay, the church says that the sun revolves around the earth, and Galileo says that the earth revolves around the sun. The truth is always somewhere between, so maybe the sun revolves around the earth half the time and the earth revolves around the sun half the time?"-- 17th century u/DarkLord0chinChin
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 11:08 PM
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Oh, so your argument is "personality and looks are highly correlated when the only information you give someone is looks"? I don't think that shows anything about the importance of looks in general either. I think if you gave people a lot of information about someone's personality and then asked them to rate their physical attractiveness, the nicer people would be rated as more physically attractive too. It's just anchoring effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 01:51 PM
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Dudes running around being like "well penetration is the be-all end-all of sex for ME, it must obviously be the be-all end-all of sex for girls too"...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 01:48 PM
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I think that some aspects of the personalities of people on OKC can be quite obvious (for instance, you can make a pretty good estimate of how much a girl will talk your ear off about the patriarchy). Other aspects are not. If your conclusion is "this chart does not provide useful information about how looks affect people's assessments of others' personalities because you can't tell the personality of people on OKC", I confess myself puzzled why you posted it in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 01:44 PM
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Not most people in the 12-21 age range...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 11:15 PM
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I don't understand what your comment has to do with my comment. Could you explain, please?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 11:00 PM
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That chart doesn't actually distinguish "people think goodlooking people have better personalities" from "people think people with good personalities are better looking" (not to mention other possibilities, like "people's definition of good looks is heavily weighted to include things which signal personality traits they like").
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 06:46 PM
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Because as we all know there's never any such thing as a miscarriage of justice... /s
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 05:24 PM
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For most women, "this man has been in the wrong place at the wrong time once in his life" isn't necessarily a dealbreaker. It doesn't matter whether he actually committed the crime. If he can convince her that he's innocent, she will probably not consider it a dealbreaker.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 07:14 PM
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That's totally fine. I'm just saying that there's nothing gendered about it. If a woman feels like her last name represents her lineage and where she comes from and feels like she owes her family before her the duty of carrying it forward, then that's a perfectly reasonable reason for her to ask her husband to change his name to hers.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 06:45 PM
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Because not everyone who's in prison has done something wrong. Because you were committed to them before they went into prison, and you're not going to abandon someone you love. Because some people have broken pickers.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 05:40 PM
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I mean, that's kind of why we have the whole party and everything...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 05:33 PM
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My husband and I both changed our names at the same time (him because of marriage, me because of transition) and IMO they're both equally annoying. But changing your name without a marriage is more expensive.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 05:27 PM
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My husband took my last name because my last name is more metal than his, and because it was helpful to him to have a clean Internet history (he's considering going into politics). ETA: After reading through this thread, my mind is boggled by the number of men who don't like their last names and women who feel a connection to their surnames but who don't seem to even think of the possibility of a husband taking his wife's last name.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 05:22 PM
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Cis girl, I guess? I'm interpreting the question to mean Nonbinary The Other Way Around.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 02:21 PM
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He's hardly going to be complaining after you decide to have sex with him, and then you have a fuckbuddy who looks like Sebastian Stan. There are worse outcomes.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 10:01 PM
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When I translate this post into the discourse I'm used to using I actually agree with like 90% of it. You can't argue someone into wanting to fuck you, there's no such thing as the One, Mitch is showing scarcity mentality all over the place. I was going to say something like "I don't know that men are conditioned into this by society, the men I know aren't" but then I remembered that y'all are heterosexuals and tbh I would believe heterosexuals get up to any kind of ridiculous nonsense at this p…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 07:49 PM
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How do we know whether Elevatorgate Guy is unattractive? We have no idea who he is. (Nobody does, actually, except for Elevatorgate Guy himself-- Watson is faceblind.)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 06:16 PM
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Well...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 04:27 PM
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I think that for most incels fucking someone who doesn't want to have sex with them is only going to make their condition worse. These days I only fuck incels if I'm willing to put in the effort to leave them better than I found them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 04:20 PM
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A person I know, I don't think they're open about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 04:17 PM
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With two exceptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 04:14 PM
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Women do, very much, say "hey, want to come up to my place?" I agree they are less likely to ask men out, but plausibly deniable escalation is not just a male thing. But, yes, if you wait for her to make a move, you're going to lose out on some sex you might otherwise get. My advice depends on the assumption that you'd prefer to miss out on sex sometimes than to have sex with someone who doesn't want sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 02:00 PM
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If you don't have the social skills to tell when it's acceptable (which is totally fine, some people don't!), then the safest course is to wait until she makes a move on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/16 11:54 PM
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yep that's me you forgot the fandom blogging though
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/16 07:00 PM
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uh, look at her flair, she's clearly a "woman" smh at these special snowflake tumblr identities
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/16 06:10 PM
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this is the subthread for BP men to post their dick size
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/16 06:09 PM
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I would suggest these engineers find the kink community, whose slogan could probably be Where Programmers Meet Sluts.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 09:26 PM
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I feel like my response in that situation would be "holy shit, my husband is dead, I don't know how I'm going to be able to be strong for the children, and also I am pissed at him for cheating but that makes it worse because the person I love is dead and I'm never going to be able to be angry at him because he is gone forever, I want to curl under a blanket and sob for the rest of my life." I think this is a not uncommon opinion about one's spouse dying.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/16 12:57 AM
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Depends on the playboy bunny, depends on the software engineer. I mean, I think Asia Carrera could think rings about some of the dumbasses I've met in the Valley.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/16 12:52 AM
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Have you considered hanging out in parts of the Internet that aren't about dating? I mean, there are also assholes there, but they're less likely to be assholes in the specific way you're complaining about.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/16 12:44 AM
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I mean, I've been poly for years, most of my friends are poly, and I've never met such a person, but I've sure as hell met a lot of oversensitive monogamous people. Does that mean I think they don't exist? No. People are diverse and one should never underestimate human stupidity. But IME it is definitely more an oversensitive monogamous person problem than a snobbish poly problem, and even if it did exist I'm pretty sure it's just a reaction to constantly having monogamy pushed on us by everyone…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/16 12:38 AM
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So you've discovered that queer people tend to have non-normative sex lives. Perhaps in your next post you shall reveal to all of us the shocking reality that Christians often believe in God.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/16 10:09 PM
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I've also noticed that most poly-people view their polyness as a badge of superiority. That somehow monogamous people are just traditional idiots who don't realize why their system is inferior. In my experience, this sort of conversation goes like this: Me: I really like watching Hamilton snuggled between my boyfriend and my husband! Monogamous Person: You're saying POLYAMORY IS SUPERIOR TO MONOGAMY?! Me: Well, for me it is, but I know that other people are different-- Monogamous Person: Ha! You…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/16 10:06 PM
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Fortunately, social phobia is very treatable with the help of a good therapist.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/16 06:54 PM
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my opinion of hypermasculine women is that they should send me nudes
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/16 04:22 PM
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No, we're talking shit about you because you're saying that justice requires a strange woman who is monogamously married to someone else to have sex with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/16 04:19 PM
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It's called the Dodo Bird Verdict if you wanna google.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/16 04:14 PM
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Alternately, you can have the perspective that in SJW spaces what is allowed and not allowed is clearly written down in blog posts for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 01:48 AM
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Eh, depends on the scene I think. I've definitely had conversations with my boyfriends in which we're like "cis straight people dating sounds terrible, I am so glad I don't have to put up with that."
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 12:52 AM
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Am I a bigot for not wanting to fuck a trans woman? No. Well, probably if you're not attracted to an otherwise attractive woman with a vagina because she was assigned male at birth, that's related to your internalization of societal cissexism, but that's definitely an optional thing to try to fix and you shouldn't have sex with people you're not attracted to and anyway most trans women have dicks so this doesn't come up. As an SJW, do you feel guilty when you are not attracted to trans men? Why …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 12:49 AM
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http://www.dictionaryofobscuresorrows.com/post/23536922667/sonder
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 12:43 AM
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I'd probably bond with strangers occasionally just to see what would happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/16 02:01 AM
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It's a superstimulus. Think about it like Skittles: there wouldn't be any Skittles without modern technology, but we think sweet things taste good because that would have helped us find calorie-rich food in the EEA. That said, while it is probable that some aspects of female beauty evolved that way because of fertility (interest in youth and women with a 20-25 BMI), that's only one factor in how beauty involved. Indicators of parasite load, high status, etc. also exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/16 01:58 AM
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A 6 is above average, though. We're talking about below average women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/16 08:11 PM
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Then the man would be getting none of his needs met instead of some of them. Until you get a new partner. So what you're saying is that these men are terribly short-sighted. Ex, your in a poly relationship so you can get your various needs met by other people. Your answer might be "Then get a poly relationship!" but that isn't feasible for a lot of people. That's not actually how poly relationships work at all. It's not like "oh, my husband ignores me, but it's okay because my boyfriend pays att…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/16 02:04 PM
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General you, not specific you. I never said they couldn't?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/16 01:59 PM
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No, I'm saying that if you want anal sex, don't be in a monogamous relationship with someone who's put anal sex completely off the table, regardless of whether she's had anal in the past. Her past is utterly irrelevant, look to her current behavior when deciding whether to stay with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/16 01:58 PM
1

A lot of people invest money in their partners and clean up their partners' past mistakes because they love them and want them to be happy. I do not recommend the strategy of investing money in people and cleaning up someone's past mistakes in order to obtain sex, or indeed doing it for any reason other than loving them and wanting them to be happy. If you are cleaning up your partners' past mistakes for some other reason, I suggest some therapy to explore your codependency and/or a sex worker. …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/16 04:10 AM
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In that case, he should have dumped her when his sexual needs weren't getting met, and it is entirely and 100% his own fault for not correctly identifying what he needed in a relationship and ending relationships that wouldn't provide it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/16 04:04 AM
1

Usually, men who get in a loving, committed relationship want to be in a loving, committed relationship. It's not like "how come you have casual sex with Dave but want to marry me?", it's like "yay! I get to marry you AND have sex with you!" If you are viewing marriage as something you have to put up with in order to obtain pussy, I would suggest hiring a sex worker instead; it's guaranteed, there's more variety, and the girls always stay 22.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/16 03:45 AM
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Am I the only person who doesn't find that upsetting at all? I mean, if my husband didn't do sweet romantic things for me, I would be upset. But I don't think I would be more upset if he'd done them for other people in the past. Like, why is that relevant at all? I care about my emotional needs getting met, I don't give a shit about whether other people in other relationships got their emotional needs met. I don't care whether he took them on vacations or wrote them songs or flipped around on a …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/16 03:42 AM
3

A BB has to admit that his wife, when she had more to offer (was younger, prettier, without kids) gave away sex for free, but she charges Dave for it. Do you like being charged for dented, used goods that were given away for free when they were new? Look, if you want to see a sex worker, that's a valid preference, but I think you should probably hire one honestly. If you're trying to hire a sex worker via deceiving a woman into believing that you want to have a loving committed relationship, thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/16 03:32 AM
2

God, yeah, every time I read a redpiller say "no man turns down sex!" I just want to laugh bitterly.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/16 03:25 AM
5

Don't lead people on into thinking you're offering more than you are. If you communicate "I'm not looking for a commitment right now because I'm in medical school", then you're not doing anything wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/16 07:23 PM
5

I mean, I think you should cut both new moms and new dads some slack, but new moms do have to put up with everything new dads do plus recovering from one of the most difficult things a human body can do.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/16 06:34 PM
2

Have you considered becoming a stay-at-home dad?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 11:18 PM
2

I'm pretty sure if I praised my husband's masculinity he would look at me like I was insane, so I got dinged for that. :(
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 06:02 PM
3

My group therapy is full of married people. (And divorced people, but like to be divorced you have to be married first.) I would suggest that perhaps 'medical school' is wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 03:05 PM
3

Man, I do.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 02:29 AM
2

Listen to the lady, she knows what she's on about.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 02:24 AM
3

Mental illness, gender, effective altruism.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 02:21 AM
2

I am dying of curiosity about what that comment was now.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 02:20 AM
3

do you understand what the word 'confounded' means?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 02:19 AM
3

You don't exactly see people in the USA moving to Europe much of a reason, even if the EU is not far behind power wise. Actually, both Iceland and Switzerland have a higher net migration rate than the US. (Denmark does not.) A free rider? Like living off of welfare or? Like behaving in a way that benefits me (e.g. promiscuity) without regard for its effects on society.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 02:19 AM
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A promiscuous woman is more likely to cuck a man. This sounds completely unconfounded.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 10:39 PM
6

The USA is richer than India. Being in a developed country is definitely nicer than being in a developing country. But the happiest countries in the world are Denmark, Switzerland, and Iceland, which AFAICT are not known for their power on the world stage. And besides there's no reason for me personally not to be a free rider.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 10:22 PM
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Lesbian is actually less bad than straight dude IME, because autistic people are more likely to be LGBT, and they don't exactly have a gender imbalance issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 09:58 PM
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Oh, also, autistic people are late bloomers, I know lots of autistic people who didn't have a girlfriend at 22 and now have wives/girlfriends/orgy invitations, you shouldn't assume that just because you're lonely now you're going to be lonely forever. I admit it sucks now, but you can expect to improve over time.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 09:51 PM
4

The person you hit on talks to the group leaders about it. Or you have sex and they talk to their individual therapist who shares it with the group leaders.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 09:49 PM
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I've fucked a lot of virgins and IME their first time is embarrassingly bad but they get up to speed after ten-twenty times or so. I think a lot of the learning curve for vanilla sex is things like "don't bite other people's genitalia" and "you are supposed to move your mouth during blowjobs", which you learn pretty quickly. Beyond that what makes you good in bed is all creativity, enthusiasm, communication, self-knowledge, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 09:45 PM
5

You're generally not allowed to fuck people you meet in group.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 09:43 PM
12

Credentials: I'm autistic. I'm married to a NT man and dating a bunch of people, all of whom have assorted brain probs. My biggest piece of advice: Date autistics, broader autism phenotype people, people with sister conditions like ADHD, or neurotypicals who primarily socialize with autistics/BAPs/people who have sister conditions. Unfortunately, this is an easier strategy for basically anybody who isn't a straight man, but I still think it's good advice. Even given that NTs have a better gender…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 09:43 PM
6

I am not sure why one's society being more powerful means it's better off, nor am I sure why I should care about my society being better except insofar as it affects me personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 09:31 PM
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Why do I care about whether my society increases its power?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 09:13 PM
1

...yes?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 01:47 PM
2

It's not 'hypocrisy' to say you want to date people with traits you don't have. Otherwise there's a whole lot of TRPers who like feminine women who have some 'splaining to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 04:19 AM
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Feminists don't give a shit whether you're athletic, smartassed, funny, popular, or slutty. Feminists care about whether you're a sexist twat. As best as I can tell, they're about as likely to call out sexist twats whether or not they're TRP. Also, in what universe is being attracted to athletic, smartassed, popular, funny people 'vain'?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 04:16 AM
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I'm gonna guess you'd find them too faggy and spergy to want to hang around for long
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 03:41 AM
2

I was there when the alt-right got started, it was originally a cuckold fetish reference. I can definitely see why the alt-right is trying to memoryhole their association with kinky porn, though. Gives them a broader appeal outside the Gay Coastal Degenerates for Monarchy set.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 12:05 AM
2

Eh, I find that if you don't put deliberate effort into preventing it all threesomes naturally descend into giggly cuddly romancey happiness with no power dynamics at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 12:03 AM
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No one uses 'cuckold' to refer to a man who's cheated on unless they're literally from the 17th century. What's next, are you going to refer to men as having horns?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 11:39 PM
3

Let this be an important lesson for everyone: talk to your partner first, don't just spring a kink on them if they're not willing to try it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 11:36 PM
2

It's not always a submissive thing, also. Lots of male doms get off on having a slutty female submissive who'll have sex with anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 11:35 PM
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Fortunately, the big data company gives you money, and you can exchange money for sex. u/lollygagyo can enlighten you as to how if you are confused. Unfortunately, sex workers are not one of the perks provided by any Silicon Valley firm. Give Google a couple of years, though...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 09:23 PM
2

Redpillers don't want to commit to me because I'm a short-haired hairy-armpitted feminist slut, so I don't really need to worry about it, fortunately.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 09:14 PM
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How is that a response to wombat's point? Whether or not slut shaming is from men or women, if women don't want to be slut shamed they'll have fewer sexual partners and less sex with incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 05:56 PM
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Rape is a violent crime. Not having sex with people is not a violent crime.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 05:56 PM
7

I really want to meet the nonbinary redpiller.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 05:52 PM
2

Why? Dates are a dreadful waste of time and money imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/16 02:19 PM
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Friends first is a great strategy if you legitimately want to be friends with the person. Befriending someone in the hopes you will get to date them sucks. Befriending someone and thinking "hey, they're attractive, it would be cool if we got to hook up" is an excellent strategy that leads to many hookups and many excellent friendships. Of course, having this sort of outcome-independent attitude is much easier if you have an abundance mindset, and much harder if you don't implicitly expect that y…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/16 01:43 AM
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I continually find it horrifying when you write something I mostly agree with.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/16 01:39 AM
2

So if you fucked a guy's ass blindfolded, is that the same thing as fucking a woman's ass? Surely if you care about anal sex the only thing you care about is that there is an ass involved. Much to my eternal sadness, women who are disgusted by having sex with women are quite common.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/16 01:36 AM
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I mean, I think it's a good idea to be honest with your partner (of course). But I don't know why what she did or didn't do with previous sexual partners is relevant for dealbreakers. "I've never had anal and it's gross" and "I had anal, but it was really painful and I don't want to do it again" are both nos to anal.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/16 06:15 PM
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Having an actually fun version of that sexual experience with that specific person is off the table anyway, because having sex with people who aren't enjoying it sucks. At least this way you know that it's off the table ahead of time and don't go into the relationship thinking that you might get to do the thing all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/16 04:50 PM
3

I would ask someone to use it on me and my husband so I can see who has the most sexual partners. (Both of us lost count.)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/16 04:14 PM
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Didn't you just write a little bit upthread about how it's perfectly normal for heterosexual men to be disgusted by male bodies, and now you're expecting women to find a girl with a strapon to be an adequate replacement for a man?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/16 03:50 PM
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Gangbang is 3+ guys and one woman. Annoyingly hard to organize, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/16 03:49 PM
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Quite unfair. I hardly ever have sex for money.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/16 03:34 PM
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And the guy I dated before that got his first kiss in his late twenties. I date weirdo autistic nerds, we're a little high-variance on the sexual success front. (...actually, one of the guys I'm seeing now has had threesomes and got his first kiss in his mid-twenties...)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/16 03:32 PM
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Why would I give a shit about whether my partner had previously given up time and resources without sex? I have no idea whether he's done that and I'm not sure why I'd care if he did.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/16 02:56 PM
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Yes. But hardly any men want to do this/will admit to wanting to do this, ime, due to homophobia. Bisexual dudes, my friend. God's gift to horny ladies everywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/16 02:54 PM
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There are other important aspects of someone's history that it's difficult to research on your own: most notably, how they treat people they date outside the bedroom (which really ought to be the most important criterion for everyone, regardless of their opinions on sex). You can have whatever dealbreakers you want. I'm just pointing out that not caring about someone's sexual history doesn't mean not caring about their history.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/16 02:54 PM
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Already did. It was fun. Plan on doing it again next time our schedules line up.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/16 02:52 PM
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Both, actually. I'm sure he'll appreciate his weirdo-legend status. Then why are you assuming that "sexual history doesn't matter that much" means that "history doesn't matter"? It's totally possible to not care about sexual history while also caring very much about criminal record history.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/16 01:45 PM
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Why is the only relevant kind of history for marriage sexual history? That seems a bit strange. Personally, whether or not my husband had a threesome is significantly less important than, say, his criminal record or how his ethical beliefs changed over time.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/16 01:35 PM
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Look, you seem like a nice kid, and I hate watching incels descend into misogyny land. So take it from me, a person who has fucked more virgins than most people have people. (1) Don't read stuff about how women only want top ten percent men and ridicule men who lack bulging veinous cocks and so on. It's not good for you. It is super-validating! It feels like finally someone is acknowledging how fucking miserable and lonely you are. I know. But when you believe that you're not going to get a date…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/16 09:34 PM
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I do and my parents did. And I think it is quite romantic.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/16 09:19 PM
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Yes, I completely agree that men who don't want LTRs shouldn't have LTRs.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/16 07:12 PM
1

Why is how difficult a task is remotely relevant to whether I consider it to be a selling point in my partner? It is no doubt very difficult to become a leader of a Mexican drug cartel, but being a leader of a Mexican drug cartel would be very much a dealbreaker for me. Conversely, it is very easy to be biologically related to Bill Gates, but that is definitely a selling point for me. I don't even understand why that would make it praiseworthy. If there are more leads than follows at my local sw…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/16 07:11 PM
1

This is a lie. I've had romantic feelings for a girl but I never slept with her because I wasn't sexually attracted to her. The same goes for women. They might love their betas but they aren' t sexually attracted to them. People are different from each other. For some people (hi!), romantic feelings make unattractive people attractive. For other people they don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/16 07:06 PM
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It's a lot easier to go through life with another person by your side. You have someone to help you when you break your arm or visit you in the hospital when you're sick. If one of you is unemployed or unable to work, the other one can take up the slack. If you have a bad day, they'll listen. You have twice the chance of remembering when your doctors' appointments are. You have someone to talk to when you're lonely but feel too lazy to put on pants. You can split chores and taking care of childr…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/16 06:53 PM
2

a used up cum slut post age 30? Also, If she has rode the cock carousel for over a decade, chad will have stretched her out with his beautiful hard 8" cock several times. How will she stay with the beta male if his cock is only 5.5? you know, for people who bash cucks, TRPers certainly spend a lot of time talking like the pre-sex part of literotica cuckold porn
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/16 01:56 PM
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Seriously. I hadn't been read that hard since a personality test characterized me as "socially unskilled, loner, unproductive, late with work, focuses on fantasies more than reality, self loathing."
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/16 02:49 PM
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When you're looking to date nerdy dykes, it's important to shift your filtering strategy from "is this person, broadly speaking, anti-sexist?" to "is this person capable of talking about subjects OTHER than the patriarchy?"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/16 01:37 PM
1

No, but my boyfriend's boyfriend keeps fucking neoreactos so they're constantly in my extended social circle.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/16 01:45 AM
3

The real trick is to find something 4% of women want and 0.1% of men supply.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 07:38 PM
1

Maybe you're not going to...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 04:25 PM
1

Why do we want to get men to do our bidding? I don't want that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 02:00 PM
1

You wouldn't be attracted to me. I'm a 6/10 at best and that's only because I'm young and skinny. You keep complaining about how the 8s won't fuck you, remember?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 01:23 PM
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Some people do find intelligence sexually attractive, in which case it comes up for casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 01:22 PM
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Well, great. Is your motivation that you know that taking drugs and being anti-intellectual are bad for society, or is your motivation that you don't share a lot of interests with that person and you want to date someone you share interests with?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 01:21 PM
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You will notice that I was not talking about my own personal taste in men, not about women as a whole's taste in men. I am not sure why what women in general find attractive is relevant to the issue of what I personally find attractive one way or the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 01:18 PM
1

Those links show that Mary Koss believes that male rape victims are not rape victims. It does not show she invented 'made to penetrate' in 1984. Indeed, the first link includes the correct history of the term, which is that it was a remarkably (and sadly) progressive move on the part of the CDC away from Koss's brand of feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 01:17 PM
1

Can you explain why you believe "all men are rapists" being yelled at protests proves that Mary Koss invented the concept of made to penetrate in a study published in 1984?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 01:14 PM
1

Masculinity doesn't mean that. Where you got that is beyond me. The second article you linked listed those as masculine traits. Did you link a definition you disagreed with? If so, why? Talking about things like playing sports and such, where if your not aggressive there is no way you can be competitive. See the Olympics. You think one can win gold without being aggressive? I do think one can win gold without inflicting damage or unpleasantness on others. Can you explain what you mean by 'aggres…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 01:13 PM
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So be discreet. Jeez.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 01:11 PM
1

I don't understand your taste in men at all. Why would you fawn over him when you can instead fawn over a gorgeous man like this. That hair! That jawline! Those eyes! That collarbone!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 02:59 AM
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thank you! :)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 02:42 AM
3

The group of white people described by the blog Stuff White People Like.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 01:22 AM
1

We already did. Notice how modern Scandinavians hardly ever go a-viking.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 01:22 AM
1

Do you think john Stewart and fag Colbert are sex symbols? Among SWPLs they totally are. I mean, I know you despise SWPLs with every fiber of your being, but a funny famous guy who mouths the right platitudes is catnip to a certain kind of woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 11:14 PM
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Why are you objecting to girls' butts hanging out of short shorts? Are you TRYING to ruin it for the rest of us? Sit back and appreciate the view, dude. I assume the author of this post, not being a hypocrite, chooses his sexual partners solely on the basis of how much they contribute to society, and not on the basis of how nice their tits are.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 11:10 PM
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In general, TRP's advice is better when it maintains a tight connection to empiricism. So its advice about how to get laid is not bad. (Old school PUA was better, I think; the demise of peacocking is the triumph of straight men's desire not to be faggy over straight men's desire to be attractive to women.) But its advice to women, its advice for long-term relationships, and its explanations of why its advice works are all three awful. I also tend to emphasize finding a niche more than TRP does. …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 11:05 PM
1

Do you have a citation?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 10:01 PM
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A complete description of how to be confident would take up several books. Like, you might say "don't make self-deprecating jokes", but a lot of very confident people do make self-deprecating jokes-- it's just that the message is "I am so secure in myself that I can insult myself sometimes because I expect you guys to like me anyway", not "I promise I'm aware of how terrible I am, please don't hurt me." Believing that you're an awesome person will cause a lot of changes in your behavior that are…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 08:18 PM
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Why am I the only person who didn't just give a list of the things they're attracted to? Sheesh.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 08:09 PM
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The most physically conventionally attractive men have a "swimmer's build" body type and symmetrical, masculine and neotenous faces with no acne. However, women typically care more than men do about non-physical aspects: charm, wit, sexy talents such as music or poetry, popularity, confidence, fame (even within a tiny subculture), that sort of thing. (Talents like parkour and football are also sexy, but I left them off the list because they're not really non-physical.) While wealth itself is not…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 08:08 PM
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Part 1a of the first definition you gave was "male". Perhaps if you didn't want me to assume you were talking about males, you should have chosen a different definition? Ain't that a loaded generalization. It was your definition! You linked to it! If you didn't like it, you should have picked a different one. Thanks for proving you don't want masculinity and that want men to be raised as feminine. To the extent that masculinity means having low grades, being unwilling to help others, and insulti…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 07:47 PM
1

She wasn't talking about getting a wife, she was talking about fucking men for free on Grindr.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 02:01 PM
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Thank you for giving me a definition! 1 a : male b : having qualities appropriate to or usually associated with a man 2: of, relating to, or constituting the gender that ordinarily includes most words or grammatical forms referring to males <masculine nouns> 3 a : having or occurring in a stressed final syllable <masculine rhyme> b: having the final chord occurring on a strong beat <masculine cadence> I would like males to continue to exist, and I have no particular objections to stressed final …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 01:47 PM
2

Not an ancap. Left-libertarian.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 01:29 PM
1

Wikipedia.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 03:17 AM
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I agree that women perform violence sometimes. I have never said anything against that. It is nevertheless true that men perform the majority of violence. If those terms are so very much defined, you should be able to define them for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 03:15 AM
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There are 113,000 women incarcerated for violent crimes and 1.5 million men. Using your statistics, that gives us about 42,000 women who are currently in prison for violent crimes and 810,000 men. I... don't think that exactly shows what you want it to show. Everything that isn't femininity in short. Okay, can you define femininity, then? I am trying to figure out what we're even talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 11:50 PM
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Uh, no, I'm a libertarian. I understand that the difference between libertarians and Marxists can be a little confusing for people; there are some subtle differences, such as our entire worldviews and political and economic philosophies.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 11:45 PM
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My plan is to wake up on Election Day, check fivethirtyeight, and vote for Hillary if California is a swing state. If not, I'll check the box for Gary Johnson. I am a two-issue voter on increasing immigration and ending the drug war. (If there's an incumbent, I would become a three-issue voter and include the incumbent's foreign aid policies, but I don't think statements about foreign aid during elections have much predictive value about whether the president will do well on foreign aid while th…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 09:28 PM
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I don't think my very statement applies to women. Cross-culturally, men commit the vast majority of violence, and it seems to me to be likely to be linked to the sex hormone testosterone, which men typically have far more of than women do. Tho do you really want a world where masculinity is rooted out of society? Can you define masculinity, please? My answer is going to be very different if we're referring to bravery and ambition, wearing suits, or stabbing people because they insulted your hono…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 09:27 PM
3

I seriously don't care. On here it can be a glorious pronoun anarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 03:47 PM
4

Thank you for having 'other' as a gender option on the surveys! :)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 02:13 PM
2

I'm trans. Got surgery and everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 02:12 PM
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Well, certainly, once you're a teenager-- I suspect violent tendencies are quite set in teenagers. (Although it's still quite useful to change their environment: switching from a culture of honor has quite salutary effects in reducing how much men feel inclined to murder each other.) But children have more malleable personalities; fifty percent of personality is environmental, and I think there's great potential for transforming boys into being nonviolent through a culture in which violent behav…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 02:07 PM
1

Civilization was built by the baddest motherfucker around making everyone else pay him protection money, and we have laws and property rights because bad motherfuckers realized that this was an effective way to obtain more protection money and less chance of being stabbed in the night.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 02:02 PM
4

Do you consider marriage to be a very extended form of prostitution?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 01:19 PM
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A lot of people experience responsive desire: even when they aren't feeling lusty when they start having sex, after some foreplay they start getting really into it. And I think there are people who deliberately don't have sex with their partner to get what they want. I don't think it's as gendered as TRP makes it out (except insofar as men tend to have higher libidos than women and thus it tends to be a more effective strategy on men) and I don't think it's anywhere near the most common reason p…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 01:18 PM
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I don't actually think that one can't be sexist against men. I don't think that acknowledging sex differences for which there is solid evidence, such as the connection between testosterone and violence, is sexist. While I don't support the binary division of human traits into "feminine" and "masculine", to the degree that violence is considered masculine and non-violence is considered feminine, I agree that we should raise men to be feminine.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 01:13 PM
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Be that as it may, I am still puzzled why they would want to be my friend if I accepted your trichotomy. Clearly, they don't want to fuck me, and they did make efforts to hang out with me anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 01:10 PM
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Yes. I agree. Koss is awful about male rape survivors. You are still making a factually incorrect description of her research in a way that makes her sound better than she is-- including "made to penetrate" as a separate category is significantly better than most feminist research on male rape survivors, including Koss's.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 01:09 PM
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You appear to be describing NISVS, which came out in 2010. As far as I am aware, no studies used the "made to penetrate" category before NISVS; they typically either didn't study rape by envelopment or folded it into sexual assault. While Mary Koss was one of many experts consulted by the CDC while it was creating NISVS, I don't think we can assume that she's responsible for the "made to penetrate" category, if for no other reason than that it seems extraordinarily out of character for her to wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/16 11:15 PM
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I have been turned down for sex by male friends I neither work with nor am related to. Therefore, while your comment may reflect your own experiences, it certainly doesn't reflect the experiences of my social circle.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/16 10:55 PM
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All humans are capable of going on a killing spree with the right tools. And yet the ones that do are overwhelmingly male. There are also plenty of non violent TV shows. If you want a healthy child you would avoid letting them watch much TV anyway. IDC about my kid. They're quite unlikely to wind up violent because they'll be raised in an upper-middle-class intellectual environment. It's everyone else's kids I'm worried about.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/16 03:33 PM
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Because you can go off and set up a lesbian feminist commune instead? (Which, really, the MGTOW ought to do the opposite. Lesbian feminists had a way better pitch than y'all. You still got laid!)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/16 01:38 PM
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It isn't entitlement if you can actually get people to take the deal and you don't sulk when they don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/16 01:36 PM
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I have really sad news for you about male submissives... A lot of them are men in positions of power.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/16 01:33 PM
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Nearly all men, in the right circumstances, are capable of extreme violence. There is no fundamental difference in the genetics of a modern man and a Viking who rapes, pillages, and burns or a Malay man who runs amok. For this reason, it is extremely important for any civilized society to work on stamping out or productively channeling male violence. Our society does pretty well on this, but in an ideal society swords and guns would be female toys and all television shows aimed at male children …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/16 01:26 PM
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The ordinary drug dealer that most people will have a chance to observe the behavior of in their day-to-day lives is no worse than anybody else.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/16 08:47 PM
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Do you look around yourself and see the scary guys trafficking heroin for the Mexican drug cartels? Gosh. You must live in a terrible neighborhood.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/16 08:43 PM
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Mexican drug cartels are genuinely awful. Is your claim that women in the US generally sleep with leaders of Mexican drug cartels? That seems extraordinary. I thought he was referencing, you know, the normal sort of everyday drug dealer who sells weed or kratom or modafinil, the vast majority of whom don't shoot anybody. Furthermore, the only reason the Mexican drug cartels exist is prohibition, so... still a point for vice cop being a more evil profession than drug dealer.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/16 06:17 PM
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This is a thread about being dark triad, which is obviously what u/XXYukieXX was referring to. It is not actually required that one be a psychopathic narcissist to work out.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/16 05:37 PM
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Why are you putting being dark triad, being a drug dealer, and investing emotional support and money into women in the same category? Is there any evidence that your average Adderall-and-weed drug dealer is any more of a psychopath than the average person in a sales profession? Is there any evidence that narcissists are less likely to spend money on women than average? Being a drug dealer is a fine profession that causes a great deal of benefit to others. It's not like you're working some really…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/16 05:36 PM
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I mean, yes, he wants to defend rape survivors. Many people wish to defend rape survivors. This is generally considered to be a good position.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/16 11:27 PM
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Yeah, my mom used to get mad at me when I didn't call service workers 'sir' or 'ma'am.' It was disrespectful. Now I'm in California and I've lost all my old good habits...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/16 06:37 PM
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Wait, so does that imply the average man is orbiting at least two and probably more women? How does that square with the idea that men have oneitis, which I thought was a pretty key part of the orbiter concept?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/16 06:32 PM
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I don't know about the best one ever, but the one I've been thinking about a lot recently was this absolutely lovely dorky guy at the Citadel. My husband picked him out for me. (I was like "how are you so good at choosing beautiful men?" and he was like "I just picked the skinniest nerd." >.<) Anyway, we negotiated a bit and then he did this wonderful scene that was a lot of sensation play (with rabbit fur! wonderful!) and a bit of massage alternating with punching me in the back with my absolut…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/16 06:23 PM
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IDK, I think if a woman won't date a bisexual dude she's probably insecure, a homophobe, or both.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/16 02:22 PM
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If women's dual mating strategy is really such a cross-cultural universal, you'd be able to find more examples of it being talked about in media than that one fucking quote.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/16 02:20 PM
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but did anyone explicitly expect monogamy when they decided to get married? "Forsaking all others" is in most marriage vows. Would anyone actually agree to Alimony when they signed up for marriage? Not our fault if you don't read fine print on the legal contract you fucking signed.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/16 08:40 PM
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I'm not sure that that's true of men more than women. I mean, horniness maybe-- men as a group have higher sex drives than women as a group-- but my observations suggest that women are just as likely as men to get irritable when they're hungry.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/16 07:08 PM
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I mean it's fine if you only care about your stomach and your sex life, but some men do, in fact, have a more complex emotional life than the average amoeba.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/16 04:40 PM
4

Well, that's incredibly man-hating.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/16 04:09 PM
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I already answered the question about what my gender is. I'm nonbinary.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/16 11:57 PM
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Really? That seems quite odd. There is no reasonable way he could have known that she didn't consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/16 07:29 PM
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The men she has sex with are not committing rape, because the crime of rape requires mens rea, which they do not have. The woman is probably best treated as a rape survivor in addition to a schizophrenic by her psychologist.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/16 06:28 PM
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So if you're discussing gender issues it's fine to go about asking strangers about their genitals? Fascinating. This gives me an entirely new understanding of what is going on in the average women's studies classroom.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/16 02:07 PM
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Sorry! :( Everyone get back to talking about your perks!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/16 12:22 AM
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You certainly may, but I grew up in a state which allows you to alter the sex on your birth certificate if you're transgender, so I'm not sure how much that helps you. (I'm also not sure how much the vagina question helps. They can make those nowadays, you know.)
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/16 08:03 PM
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Do you normally go about asking strangers about their genitals?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/16 07:29 PM
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Technically speaking, I'm nonbinary, but I decided to be a woman for purposes of PPD because no one asks Questions For Nonbinary People. (I currently live as a woman.)
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/16 06:53 PM
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Over time, new relationship energy will gradually fade into old relationship energy; if there was nothing to sustain the relationship except the high of NRE, it will fail. ORE is less intense than NRE, but it has its subtle charms. The difference, I think, is between a rich dessert made by a fine chef and a neon-colored HFCS-rich sweet you pick up at the convenience store. The latter is impossible to miss, slamming on your reward systems as hard as it can; the former is, all things considered, m…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/16 06:52 PM
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Allistic and monogamous people are so weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/16 06:48 PM
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Clearly you know an inferior quality of hot girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/16 06:46 PM
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My husband supports me in my life of indolence.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/16 06:45 PM
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Eh, fair, but "perk because you're ugly and the guy's desperate" is meaningfully different from "perk because you're hot."
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/16 06:44 PM
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Are we just assuming there aren't any ugly people on here?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/16 06:33 PM
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If you're not wanting to get fucked and rejecting a guy then why giggle? Because people do not have complete voluntary control over their body language when they're nervous?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/16 01:58 PM
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Some people giggle because they're nervous, dude. Didn't we just have like sixteen threads about how only an explicit verbal no counts and freezing up and looking rigid and cold and scared don't?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/16 08:54 PM
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"I want to talk to you and I don't want sex" is not a mixed message. It is a very clear message. Unless you happen to think that every time someone talks to you they want to have sex with you, in which case you must be extremely confused at grocery stores.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/16 08:53 PM
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How does it send a mixed message? I'm sorry, I don't speak u/PemBayliss sign language, in which we communicate whether or not we want sex through an elaborate game of Charades instead of using our words like grownups.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/16 08:52 PM
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I assume I have spend more time cuddling with men on couches than you have. The majority did not have sex with me, and absolutely none of them raped me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/16 08:51 PM
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I mean... yes? The same basic principles apply.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/16 08:50 PM
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Okay, well, you really need to talk to the other redpillers who are under the impression that such behavior doesn't count as a no.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/16 08:49 PM
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I am horrified by the number of apparently vanilla people who wish to engage in unnegotiated safewordless noncon sex, which even most people who are into edgeplay won't do because it's fucking dangerous.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/16 04:08 PM
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If you would like to not cuddle or converse with her, you have a perfect right to leave. It is not other people's responsibility to read your mind and tell that you don't want cuddles or conversation. Practice some of that explicit communication you keep talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/16 04:06 PM
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Fair's fair. If a person can't tell that a 'no' not stated assertively is a no, they should be under the constant supervision of their guardians while in adult company and not be allowed to go out after dark. After all, the girl only hurts herself, while the person who doesn't respect other people's 'no's is hurting others.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/16 04:04 PM
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I think it is very misandrist to say that men are too dumb to understand such complicated concepts as "I want to lie on the couch next to you but I don't want to have sex."
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/16 04:01 PM
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Jeez. First you have a bunch of redpillers being like "how could I POSSIBLY work out that I should check in with a person who looks terrified even if they haven't said 'no' yet?" and then you have a bunch of other redpillers being like "you should just ignore it when women say 'no'! Their body language tells the truth!" Like, how can women express their lack of consent with you guys? Do we have to have a contract signed in triplicate?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/16 03:59 PM
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It never fails to amaze me how people who have no problem figuring out if their friends are in the mood for Chinese food, Call of Duty, or going out to see a movie somehow can't tell how to figure out if their friends are in the mood for kinky sex. ...I guess you might not know how to do the former, but then you have worse social skills than me, an autistic person, which is just sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/16 03:56 PM
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I am not sure what the point of that question is. From the perpetrator's side, "I might have sexually assaulted her, but I didn't RAPE her" seems like a cold comfort to one's conscience. From the victim's side, "I was sexually assaulted, and then because I wasn't thinking super clearly immediately after my assault, I went along with it" isn't actually that much different from "I was raped".
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/16 12:07 AM
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If you experienced significant enough pain that you view the grueling and harrowing process of reporting a crime as "fun", then indeed you should.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/16 12:05 AM
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Yes. You don't get to sexually assault people on the off chance that they're into that sort of thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/16 12:05 AM
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I mean, yes, grabbing someone's cock when they have explicitly said they don't want you to grab their cock is sexual assault. If grabbing someone's genitals when they have explicitly said they don't want you to isn't sexual assault, I don't know what is.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/16 01:29 PM
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This is not true. Even by feminist estimates (whom you would think have the most incentive to exaggerate the issue) only 5% of men have ever committed rape. I assume that the other 95% of men have occasionally been around hot drunk girls who didn't want to have sex with them but could be forced.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/16 01:27 PM
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It seems a little bit misandrist to me to assert that there is no significant difference between the behavior, response to incentives, and moral agency of men and bears.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/16 01:26 PM
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Joking about rape is wrong, regardless of intent, thats why we don't make rape jokes. No, it isn't. There is a long history of anti-rape rape jokes from comedians like Sarah Silverman; the other day Reductress made literally its entire front page consist of nothing but hilarious rape jokes. "Ha ha wouldn't it be funny if I raped someone?" jokes aren't funny, but tbh the primary problem there isn't offensiveness-- it's lack of a punchline.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/16 01:41 PM
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They're not racist in and of themselves. They're just words that are not very commonly used except among people who wish to signal that they're your out-of-touch racist uncle from 1965, and pretty much the only people who want to do that are racists.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/16 06:03 PM
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A truly attractive man wouldn't resort to prostitutes. I don't think that's true. A lot of men who see sex workers are just really busy; a friend of mine who does sex work gets a lot of clients who are putting in eighty or hundred hour weeks on their startup, and so don't have any time to date. And a lot of clients are married men in deadbedroom relationships who probably could have sex they didn't pay for, but who feel like it would be disrespectful to their spouse to fuck someone who's a threa…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/16 05:55 PM
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Nearly everyone wants their sexual partner to share their values about sex. If you think that sex without love is unethical or that sex work is taking advantage of vulnerable women, naturally you're not going to want to date someone who hired sex workers in the past. Myself, it depends on whether he was a good client. An asshole who tries to pressure sex workers into sex without condoms or into dating him is obviously terrible. A respectful, clean man who communicated his desires clearly and gav…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/16 05:52 PM
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Why do people use the word 'Oriental'? Do you want to sound like an out-of-touch racist uncle from 1965?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/16 05:48 PM
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Equality is dependent on what the purpose of the activity is. If the purpose of the game is to figure out who's the best at basketball, then equality is making sure that everyone has an equal opportunity to show off their skills to their best advantage. If the purpose of the game is to have fun, then equality is making sure that everyone has an equal opportunity to have fun, and not either boringly crush the competition or boringly lose in a humiliating fashion.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/16 05:43 PM
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Surely it depends on what your goal is? If your goal is to pick out the best basketball player for your team, 1 is a good idea. If your goal is to have a fun game that's challenging for all players where the outcome isn't obviously predictable in advance, 3 is a good idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/16 04:15 PM
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Atlas isn't a blooper.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/16 11:41 PM
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I don't think so. If there's actually a problem that needs to be communicated about, sure, that's not really the place for A&A or C&F. But if she's being legitimately a jerk about, say, you missing the exit, a little bantering can make her realize she's being a dick without escalating into a huge argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/16 11:39 PM
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What? I mean, YKINMKBYKIOK, if you want to have a relationship where no one ever banters or teases that's your thing and I wish you the best of luck. But for a lot of people, maybe most people, teasing is a core part of flirting. And frankly a lot of guys get really defensive about being teased, or they feel like girls are some sort of sacred pedestalized person you can't ever make a joke about for fear of being disrespectful, and it really does help them flirt to explain what their part in the …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/16 11:37 PM
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I think one of my boyfriends used to lift? But he's a bit depressed right now so he hasn't been doing it lately. Otherwise, no, I fuck techies, if they do exercise it's biking to work.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/16 11:28 PM
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Most men will actively communicate their continued consent to be blown through moaning, "yes yes yes yes yes YES", "oh god", putting his hands on your head, moving hips, and similar mechanisms. If a man is being silent and still as the grave, then I think a simple "how are you doing?" or "do you like that?" is a good idea. But then I'm a sex-pozzie. Whenever I read about how the rest of y'all have sex it just seems like a hilariously awkward game of Charades.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/16 11:25 PM
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I just don't date men who lift. Problem solved.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/16 07:18 PM
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Man mows lawn; woman does dishes. How oppressive is that? Mowing the lawn is a half hour once a week and you don't have to do it during winter. The dishes are ten minutes once a day (so about an hour a week) and you do not get a seasonal break.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/16 07:22 PM
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Yes, we do. Unless you have been specifically trained not to, you will in an acutely stressful situation where your subconscious mind thinks you are capable of neither defeating the threat nor escaping. It's a natural survival tactic, and it works. A whole lot of people who have never been in a survival situation really like talking about how awesome they'd be in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/16 08:45 PM
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All human beings are prone to a freeze response. In acutely stressful situations, your subconscious mind will assess whether you are capable of defeating the threat (fight) or escaping the threat (flight). If you can do neither, you will freeze: that is, you will dissociate and stop moving. This is evolutionarily advantageous: it protects you from further injury you might get from resisting, and it protects you psychologically through dissociation. A large amount of the training of firefighters,…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/16 02:20 PM
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IT's about wanting to try certain things, not wanting to invent something new for both to try. I'm not saying that you have to invent anything new yourself. People have been inventing sex acts for literally thousands of years. If you tried a different new sex act every week, you would not run out of sex acts to try for the rest of your life. I mean, seriously, I'm a pretty serious slut, and I've tried dozens upon dozens of new things with my husband, just as part of an ordinary varied sex life w…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/16 11:48 PM
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so... mouths?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/16 03:04 PM
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You can give people a social desirability bias questionnaire (sample questions: "I never get angry at my spouse", "I never run red lights", "I always tell the truth") and then control for level of social desirability bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/16 03:04 PM
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I think most people also have at least four dealbreakers when they start darting too. Don't they? I mean, if they don't, gosh, we are going to need to get these people to have much larger Ns, you really shouldn't be going around marrying people on account of they like you and have a pulse.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/16 03:00 PM
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Hey, at this point I have probably dated a statistically significant sample of sexually inexperienced men with aspergers, and none of them pulled this shit. The problem isn't mental disorders. It's sexism.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/16 02:58 PM
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Yes, most people like to enjoy sex. Most people also like sex to not include being punched in the nose. Most people like sugar. The sky is blue. Why are we saying true things that are irrelevant to my argument?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/16 02:57 PM
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HOW is N-count a good proxy for borderline personality disorder? As a borderline personality disorder is pretty damn obvious. If you've dated a borderline for two weeks and not realized that something is up with her brain (even if you don't know how to recognize borderline personality disorder), it's because you're an oblivious idiot. N count is trivially easy to lie about. I've dropped three or four people from my N because I forgot about them, and absolutely no one could tell. Why are you usin…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/16 02:54 PM
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I agree that an increased number of nonmarital sexual partners-- the statistic everyone keeps talking about-- increases the risk of getting divorced. I think that is largely explained through cheaters having more nonmarital sexual partners than noncheaters. I think that being a virgin decreases one's risk of divorce, and having more than twenty premarital sexual partners increases one's risk of divorce. I think the former is probably best explained through conservative sexual values that are opp…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/16 02:46 PM
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Every fun experience/kink/idea you may have, she will have done it with someone else. To me, this speaks to an astonishing lack of creativity. Let alone if you want to try something new, only to be told "No, I tried it with Chad and I didnt like it". So Chad got to do something, that the husband doesnt. To a dude, that is completely unfair and bullshit. Why do you want to have sex your partner's not into? I mean, you do you or whatever, I'm not judging, but that is an extremely strange sexual pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/16 12:44 AM
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Never said it was the only reason, just that that reason doesn't make any sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/16 12:04 AM
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I think the vast majority of women who have high N counts have high N counts because they like casual sex, not because they chose the flash-your-tits-at-Mardi-Gras or post-an-ad-on-Craiglist-W4M strategy of acquiring a husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/16 11:19 PM
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It's just a statistical thing. People give the same advice about other issues ("when you stop stressing about your infertility, it will happen"). Imagine you have a 1% chance of meeting the love of your life any given month, no matter what you do. Over the course of a year, you have an 11% chance of meeting her; over the course of 10 years, you have a 70% chance of meeting her; over the course of twenty years, it's a 91% chance. Over a longer time period, your chance of meeting the love of your …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/16 08:14 PM
1

I understand that people have different preferences, but I generally appreciate honesty in my relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/16 07:09 PM
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Wow, minimally attractive. That's so flattering. I know what gets my libido revving, being minimally attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/16 02:35 PM
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He didn't say anything about her blacking out with orgasms from PIV. There are, in fact, other ways to give a woman orgasms.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/16 02:30 PM
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Facials really didn't exist as a sex act before porn, and they became so popular because they look really visually appealing in porn and now a lot of men want to do them. So, yeah, at least in some cases, porn affects what men want sexually.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/16 02:24 PM
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I don't think that's actually that likely. Marriage isn't a zero-sum game. If you're married to someone who's unhappy, bitter, and resentful, you're probably not that happy either.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 04:06 AM
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I feel like your argument is circular? "Sexual attraction is the only thing that matters with regards to whether someone wants sex, being tired after having a baby doesn't matter. My evidence for this is that having a baby doesn't reduce your sexual attraction to your husband, and sexual attraction is the only thing that matters." Also, Channing Tatum is exempt from the tired-after-babies thing because he's scarce. The average woman would have at most one opportunity to ever have sex with Channi…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 02:51 AM
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I've dated enough asexuals that I have a very clear sense of the bare minimum I need to have in a primary relationship: I need clear communication about why my partner doesn't want sex (and behavior that matches their communication-- "I'd love to have sex with you!" combined with no sex is crazy-making), and I need sex with them about once every six months. I am willing to compromise really hard to find a sex life that works for both of us.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/16 09:13 PM
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I mean, IMO, that just makes her achievement more impressive! It takes a sharp businesswoman to not only parlay a sex tape into millions of dollars but parlay a bad sex tape into millions of dollars.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/16 05:27 PM
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I have no idea who this person is but I'm seconding u/sen--sen. I just want to pick him up and scritch his hair.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/16 05:25 PM
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Chris Pine? Are you kidding me? The things I would do for those biceps...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/16 05:23 PM
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That's Kim K's persona. Like, say what you will about her, but she has a multimillion-dollar career based on being in a sex tape once with someone who is now significantly less famous than her. That's not the kind of thing that happens if you're actually a moron. The lady is brilliant at PR.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/16 05:22 PM
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HEY, as someone who regularly fetishizes asexual nerds, I would never sleep with Beezlebub Cuttlefish.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/16 05:20 PM
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I think that Brad Pitt has been coasting for decades on the hotness of Tyler Durden.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/16 05:19 PM
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I feel like a lot of the blooper/redpiller arguments about niceness go away when you realize that by "niceness" redpillers mean "buying women chocolates and flowers and carrying stuff for them." I completely agree that buying women chocolate and flowers and carrying stuff for them is not a useful method of getting laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/16 04:58 PM
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They typically look and act like your standard-issue nerd, and are fully capable of metamorphosing into sexually successful nerds if they actually ask people out. The only reason that 'confidence is attractive' is because confidence leads to asking people out, which is the thing they do not do. In your opinion, what is the biggest thing holding most ForeverAlones back and keeping them from getting into romantic relationships? Not interacting with women, closely followed by NOT ASKING WOMEN OUT.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/16 04:49 PM
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Amanda Seyfried is a lizardperson. Natalie Dormer has a weird face. And I am still convinced that the entirety of Tumblr is engaged in an elaborate prank about the attractiveness of Budapest Curdlesnoot, a pile of cottage cheese sculpted into the shape of a horse.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/16 04:46 PM
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I've dated a betaesque man who composed love sonnets and with whom I had a sufficiently high-conflict relationship that if we'd had kids it would have been morally obligatory to end it for the good of the children. Things really aren't that set in stone.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/16 12:48 AM
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No, I don't mean bisexuality. I mean that a person can be solely attracted to cocks, and completely uninterested in vaginas, and also like it when the cocks are attached to a person who wears eyeliner. Can you explain what you mean by 'illness'?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/16 12:27 AM
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I feel like if TRP as a whole wanted to convey the message "not all women are like that" they could choose a clearer phrasing than "all women are like that".
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/16 12:25 AM
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If gay men are attracted to men, they are attracted to masculinity, no? Not... necessarily? It is totally possible to like cocks and also like people wearing eyeliner.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/16 12:20 AM
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Queer people are more likely to be gender-non-conforming than heterosexuals are, to the point that you can predict future homosexuality from gender-non-conforming behavior in childhood. Gay men as a group are, if anything, more against fems than straight women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/16 12:19 AM
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I'm always curious about that because I've seen a couple of documentaries about 'Free Love' in the 1960s and 1970s where they interview the (now much older) men and women who used to live in such relationships and/or communes and every time they talk about how actually they were jealous and were deeply unhappy about the arrangements, but felt they it politically incorrect to say this so they kept quiet. Some people aren't suited for poly and are poly anyway. This is very unfortunate and I encour…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/16 12:17 AM
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Of course we were both poly the entire time we were dating, we were both dating multiple people when we met. I don't date monogamous people, any more than you date poly people.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/16 12:13 AM
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I own a vibrator, watch porn, masturbate, poop, and probably would have cheated by now if I had not recognized my own proclivities and become honestly polyamorous instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/16 06:58 PM
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I mean, we were... both poly? Like, we were both dating other people when we met? This is a strange question.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/16 06:57 PM
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Kinky people also don't sit quietly in our own subreddits and think "everyone has to be a BDSM practitioner to have a happy relationship." Like, we actually think the vast majority of people aren't kinky, and we're fine with it. RPWi do not think "well, the vast majority of people are happy in egalitarian or female dominant relationships, but we're catering to the tiny minority who like male dominant relationships!" ...I mean, yes, Christians do want other people to be Christians. This is, in fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/16 03:05 PM
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Notably, I don't go around saying "everyone must be beaten, burnt with cigarettes, and have their mouth shat in while being called a whore and a cunt in order to have a happy relationship, because that is just fundamentally how men work." If RPWi were less "this is the One Twu Way to have a relationship" and more "this is what works for us, but we understand that different things work for different people," then people'd be less irritated at you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/16 02:57 PM
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Be Physically Attractive. (7+/10) Really depends! Like, I admit that if you want to have casual sex with gym rats, it behooves you to be a gym rat. But if you want to have casual sex with nerdy chicks, being a nerdy dude is absolutely, positively sufficient. (And, like, being in the social circles where nerdy chicks who like casual sex hang out, which is usually the biggest stumbling block for nerdy dudes IME.) Also, being charming and knowing how to flirt actually do matter a lot for being attr…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/16 02:46 PM
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I am a promiscuous slut and I have never cheated, but I'm actually sort of confused about how I would cheat on my husband, because we practice no-rules polyamory. Like, if you're one of those people who's all "I have veto over your girlfriends, and you can't stay out past eleven, and you can only have missionary-position sex with me, and..." then I can see how you would cheat, but my husband and I don't have that kind of rule. We just treat each other with respect and kindness. I mean, I suppose…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/16 02:41 PM
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It has totally happened that I've been completely passionately in love with someone and, like, horny just looking at them, and also recognized that he would have been rather unattractive if he didn't have such an excellent personality. On the other hand, he was quite a remarkable person, and I don't think "it's okay to be a 2 physically as long as you're a 10 in personality" offers much hope to most men. (To be clear, it wasn't that he was 'nice'. He actually wasn't very nice. It was that he was…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/16 02:51 PM
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I mean, yes, that's exactly my point. Having sex with a lot of people on camera for money does not necessarily make you any less of an everyday average person on any dimension other than sex. It doesn't mean you go out partying all the time, or you don't read books, or you dress solely in fishnet bodystockings. In fact, pretty much all the porn stars I've met have been sweet people you'd love to bring home to Mom.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/16 10:59 PM
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IDK, the sex workers I've met have all been pretty normal people.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/16 04:29 PM
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I think they're probably mostly prewall, just because Reddit. I suspect they have numbers of sex partners that are higher than average but seem absurdly low to me, a confirmed slut (somewhere in the 8-10 range). I suspect they mostly have full-time jobs and are more likely to have college degrees than average. I would suspect their parents are no more or less likely to be divorced than average.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/16 01:23 PM
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Or you have no self-regard and think "well, I'm a terrible person, so I'm probably going to suck at any job I do, and it'd just be burdening people to try to be friends with them, and there's no point in taking care of myself." Or you do love yourself and say, "wow, I'm really hurting myself, and I don't want to hurt someone I love. I need to start taking better care of myself." I mean, imagine you had a child. Do you think it's a good method of motivating the child to say "I won't love you unti…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/16 01:56 PM
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So what you're saying is that he's... ... ...an exception
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/16 01:27 PM
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I think he was saying specifically confidence and masculinity. There are selling points other than masculinity. For instance, a man who's emotional, sensual, nurturing, affectionate, patient, humble, vulnerable, and sweet has a lot of selling points, but he's not exactly masculine. I don't think anyone gets laid without having selling points, but it's very possible that a lot of sexually successful men's selling points are more like "affectionate and humble" than "competitive and tough."
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/16 02:09 PM
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I mean, I know a lot of nerds with 10+ sexual partners by the age of 25, it's just that we're all hooking up with other nerds. And I guess you could argue that that doesn't count because the fat weirdo sperg guy has three fat weirdo sperg girlfriends. But then as a weirdo sperg I can't imagine why I'd want to date a normie anyway. It seems tiresome.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/16 02:05 PM
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http://archiveofourown.org/tags/Weight%20Gain/works
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/16 01:48 PM
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They want casual sex less than men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/16 04:06 AM
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I'm just saying that there's an alternate explanation for why you and u/TheChemist158 disagree, which is that you happen to care about sex and romance more than she does.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/16 02:01 AM
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The reason that women don't have to do anything to get casual sex is that women, as a group, don't want casual sex. If this were not true, basic math would mean that casual sex is on average as hard to get for women as it is for men. A relationship is, on average, as hard for women to get as it is for men to get.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/16 02:00 AM
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Consider: for different people, sex and romance are of different levels of importance.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/16 12:52 AM
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I hope I can speak for u/TheChemist158 when I say I don't know what it all is supposed to look like in dating either.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/16 12:52 AM
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So because some women lie, manipulate, deceive, and lead men on, it's okay to do that to all women-- including ones who have never lied to, manipulated, deceived, or led on anyone? And how do you know those women weren't lying, manipulating, deceiving, leading on, etc. men because they believed that men would do it to them? You're perpetuating the very behavior you claim to find objectionable.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/16 11:52 PM
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Harrum, I was thinking of (say) my friend of a friend who made a couple million in tech. I can totally see him leaving his wallet on the bar because getting a couple twenties stolen is the equivalent to him of dropping a penny on the ground. I don't think anyone has a similar attitude towards getting raped. Actually, the two situations are non-analogous in several ways-- no one particularly enjoys leaving their wallet at a bar, but quite a lot of people enjoy getting blackout drunk. The cost of …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/16 10:37 PM
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I agree that women who get blackout drunk are probably either alcoholic or people who like getting drunk a very unusual amount, and for that reason telling them not to do so is unlikely to work. (Although motivational interviewing has good results for alcoholism.) One could, of course, consider other methods to reduce the rate of people getting blackout drunk, such as alcohol taxes; I'm very much in support of those, excessive alcohol consumption is harmful to oneself and others. I'm not sure wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/16 10:06 PM
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Well, it's not rape in the sense that the person who did the action is legally not a rapist, but it is rape in the sense that the victim is likely to experience trauma, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/16 09:41 PM
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Then you don't have mens rea and thus did not commit the crime of rape, although the victim may still have suffered. As an analogy, imagine that you gave someone poison because you thought it was tea. You didn't commit murder, because you didn't have mens rea, but that does not somehow make the victim not dead.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/16 09:14 PM
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What's going to happen quicker, teaching me to hold onto my money or teaching thieves not to steal? I don't know. It seems intuitive to me that most people don't leave their wallet on the bar; therefore, from the fact that you do that, I can guess that you're probably unusual in some way. Perhaps you are unusually forgetful, or place an unusually low value on money. In the latter case, I imagine teaching you not to have your wallet stolen will not work; in the former case, some forgetful people …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/16 08:45 PM
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Wow, being monogamous sounds really difficult and complicated. I'm glad I don't have to put up with any of this shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/16 08:20 PM
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I mean, certainly, if you wake up with puke on your floor you have to clean up, then you bear responsibility for that. You do not bear responsibility for someone else's decision to rape you. That's all on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/16 08:15 PM
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I don't agree that drunk sex is rape, but if someone of any gender is incapacitated from alcohol, it's not their responsibility that someone else decided to commit a violent crime against them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/16 07:50 PM
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What evidence would convince you that feminists actually believe what they say they believe?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/16 07:46 PM
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It's called alexithymia and it's not that uncommon.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/16 03:16 PM
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Is your mind calm thinking one or two things within a few moments, as opposed to feeling more scattered with many different thoughts within a few moments? Hella scattered. How do you figure out which of these feelings or thoughts are true? Or what is accurate with reality, what is reasonable or not? Note down objective observable facts in as unbiased a manner as I can, then notice the interpretation my brain is coming up with. Generate multiple alternate interpretations, then choose the interpre…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/16 03:15 PM
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No, see, this is the thing I disagree with. In my personal observations, women as a group have not been any more prone to emotional thinking and decision-making or to 'hypergamy' than men are. (Of course, all people are prone to emotional thinking, which is sometimes beneficial and sometimes not.) Therefore, NAWALT, at least based on the women I've observed. And in the absence of actual peer-reviewed evidence, we've just got dueling anecdotes.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/16 11:55 PM
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Yeah, when I've spoken to women, I've not seen it...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/16 11:51 PM
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IME, women are not like the way redpillers describe them. I mean, I don't think the redpillers are lying, just that they're acting in a way that causes people to behave badly or that they happen to be in a social circle full of shitty women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/16 11:49 PM
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The research consistently shows that spanking increases the child's risk of behavioral and emotional problems. And sure, it might be confounded. Perhaps people with problems are more likely to spank their kids, and they pass their problems along some other way. But I think we ought to require specific evidence of benefit before we assault people, not just "well, it might not have long-term negative consequences..."
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/16 11:48 PM
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Many men, even if they are aware of their other options and the costs of getting married, still want a lifelong commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/16 04:31 PM
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...no one? It's a comedy, not a didactic work of propaganda.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/16 03:59 PM
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So why not live together and have a family without getting married as a potential fair solution? Health insurance and tax benefits.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/16 03:51 PM
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If all a rich guy wants is casual sex with young hot women, then I do not think it is a wise idea to marry him. Fortunately, there are plenty of men who actually want a lifelong commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/16 03:50 PM
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See, that's another problem with Tumblr In Action. The idea that "I [throws dart] self-diagnosed with [spins wheel] a headmate that is [rolls dice] an attack helicopter" is an abso-fucking-lutely hilarious form of humor. Like, it's not even offensive? It's just boring? Learn how to tell jokes?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/16 04:47 PM
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Well, in that case, your evidence isn't very useful-- I could just say "the reason TRPers have managed to seduce some doctors is that they happen to be seducing weak, insecure doctors with daddy issues."
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/16 04:45 PM
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The suburban kid living in Hollywood probably has a better shot at becoming a banker or CEO of a company than the kid living in poverty in Detroit. I mean, I agree, but I'm not sure why the suburban kid living in Hollywood can't be a weak, insecure person with daddy issues either. Do you believe that the only fathers who abuse or neglect their children are those making less than $30,000 a year?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/16 04:19 AM
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I didn't say anything about them not going out of their way to police others. They may perfectly well police others about cultural appropriation, or saying 'pregnant women' instead of 'pregnant people' (radical feminists don't care about that), or use of the word 'stupid'. But as a matter of fact they don't care about BDSM so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/16 04:18 AM
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Is there a reason why women who are doctors or lawyers or have Master's degrees cannot be weak and insecure people with daddy issues?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/16 10:43 PM
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Okay, fine, then. There is a group of SJWs who refer to themselves as 'radical feminists'. This group of SJWs does not like BDSM. There is another group of SJWs who refer to themselves as 'third-wave feminists', 'intersectional feminists', or-- often-- just unmarked 'feminists.' This group usually likes BDSM or doesn't care about it one way or the other. (Not all people who identify themselves as 'third-wave feminists', 'intersectional feminists', or unmarked 'feminists' are people you would con…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/16 10:39 PM
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Well, for instance, you might send a message to a black woman on a dating site and say "I bet you're really sassy! I think that's hot!" Or you might go out with a black woman and be disappointed when she is not a strong black woman (tm), because you thought all black women were like that. Or you might comment "I love black women! They're all so strong!" If you manage to avoid giving any evidence of your belief whatsoever, then idk that it's a big deal-- but people aren't normally that good at ke…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/16 10:37 PM
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Okay, but radical feminists are also not the same thing as third-wave feminists. Radical feminists don't like BDSM. Third-wave feminists do, or they don't care. Many, many of the people generally considered to be SJWs (hi!) are third-wave feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/16 08:26 PM
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I mean, it's probably wiser to say "I like big booties" than "I like black girls" in that case...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/16 08:25 PM
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Extremely bad behavior; sexual coercion. Rape. Having sex with an unconscious person who has not previously consented is rape. Rape. Having sex with someone who says 'no' is rape. If she had not said no, it would be sexually coercive and I would have no objections to her calling it rape if she wanted. Rape. Having sex with someone who is extremely intoxicated is rape (having sex with a tipsy person is fine). The friend may not be morally culpable if they didn't understand how intoxicated the per…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/16 08:24 PM
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I don't care how extreme someone's belief is, it's still wrong to quote them out of context, act like jokes are serious policy platforms, and conflate a bunch of different groups of people because lol they're all SJWs. If I'm hanging out with feminists, I have the same damn conversation about how MRAs and redpillers are different people.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/16 05:25 PM
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Have you considered not getting all your information about social justice from the subreddit devoted to quoting people out of context, acting like jokes are serious policy platforms, and conflating a bunch of different groups of people because lol they're all SJWs?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/16 05:21 PM
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Well, let me check what I, a feminist, think about my own relationship... ...huh, turns out I'm pro. Funny, that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/16 05:18 PM
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Hitting people who don't want to be hit is bad. Hitting people who want to be hit is okay. This is like being like "feminists are okay with karate but have an objection to randomly assaulting people on the street! This shows they don't really care about assault, they only care about wearing gis!"
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/16 04:41 PM
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The offensive bit is not whom you are or are not attracted to. The offensive bit is believing a racial stereotype about black women. It doesn't matter whether believing a racial stereotype causes you to date black women, or not date black women, or doesn't have any effect on whether or not you date black women at all; the problem is the racial stereotype.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/16 04:39 PM
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Yes. If you are attracted to people of a particular race because you think they fit a racial stereotype, that is offensive.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/16 03:59 PM
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All I know is that I magically went from The Ugly One to The Hot One when I cut my hair short. IDK about other people but it had a serious effect for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/16 01:41 PM
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So female validation, and a maid/caretaker, and occasionally a hug when he's feeling sad (and it's kind of embarrassing that he needs that). Literally nothing compared to what he does for you. Why is it embarrassing that people need hugs when they're sad? Humans are social creatures. What my husband provides for me is, well, company, affection, comfort in times of sadness, support for my goals, an active sex life, and interesting facts about Donald Trump. He is also the primary wage-earner, but …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/16 09:03 PM
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I'm not arguing with any of that, I'm arguing with this: . Oh, one more thing, implying possession: "Hello, I'd like to introduce you to my wife..." This is practically built into our vocabulary and sentence structure. It's a possessive tone. It's interesting if you're into etymology at all. Which is a terrible argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/16 08:56 PM
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What relationship actually benefits men beyond satisfying their desire for female validation, and eventually their fear of loneliness and solo masturbation? I provide my husband with company, affection, comfort in times of sadness, support for his goals, an active sex life, and interesting facts about syphilis. I keep the house clean and remind him of things that he wants to be reminded of (such as when it's bedtime). Someday we will have children together, and I will be their primary caretaker.…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/16 02:17 PM
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If a woman says "I experience unconditional love", would you trust her when she expresses it?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/16 01:24 AM
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How do you distinguish "he experiences only conditional love" and "he experiences unconditional love, but has a hard time staying with someone if he doesn't receive certain things from his wife"? When I age, I will continue to provide value through my company and affection. As for the latter, my plan is to not be mean. If I am cruel enough that I am a drain on my husband rather than a benefit to him, of course I want him to stop loving me. I mean, I love him, and that means I want what's best fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/16 11:00 PM
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Can you explain how you measure perverseness and patheticness?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/16 10:56 PM
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Twin studies have been done, the genetic contribution to homosexuality is fairly low.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/16 10:56 PM
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Well, that's very strange, because my husband is definitely male and he definitely loves me the way I described. I do not see why I would ever desire to be loved unconditionally. I like to know that my husband is with me because I provide value to his life and make him happy, not simply because he plucked me arbitrarily out of a hat and decided that he would love me even if I became a Nazi or started to be cruel to him or anything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/16 09:30 PM
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By the 'my' logic, I also own my boss, my roommates, my parents, my president, and my God. If he knows his wife/she knows her husband is sleeping around, does that mean that there are always 100% no hurt feelings involved? No one ever oversteps boundaries? No one ever catches STD's or gets pregnant? No one ever gets tired of the lifestyle and wants to stop, when the partnership continues? No one ever gets hurt? I could make the exact same paragraph about monogamy, you know. 'If you're monogamous…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/16 09:26 PM
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Actually you're not born gay either.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/16 09:21 PM
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Can you explain why you believe it is not okay to shame the objectively disgusting non-choice of homosexuality, but it is okay to shame the objectively disgusting non-choice of a true cuckold fetish?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/16 09:19 PM
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I am not sure I understand the distinction. For instance, my husband loves me for the things I provide him: most notably, affection and company. If I stopped providing him affection and company, he would stop loving me. But that's part of loving me for myself: it is my company and my affection he desires, not any person's company and affection. I mean, there is a difference between "I love you because you give me company and affection" and "I love you because you have big tits and a big paycheck…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/16 09:12 PM
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I am married. I also have partners who are not my husband. That is how polyamory works.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/16 05:12 PM
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Then we agree! You shouldn't use the word 'cuck', because you're shaming men with true fetishes for cuckoldry, and that's wrong!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/16 04:07 PM
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So your argument is that it is okay to shame objectively disgusting things, as long as they're choices? So it's okay for people in the 1950s to shame bisexuals, because they can choose to be straight, but not to shame gay people? And conversely if a person has a true fetish for cuckoldry-- that is, they can't get off without at least thinking about it-- it's wrong to shame them?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/16 03:56 PM
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I mean, my boyfriend and his wife are producing a child. So far my response is "yay baby!" and "can I babysit?" and "I have purchased it a present!" I mean, I know that I do not have the same role in my lovers' lives as their spouses do. That's fine! I don't think I have the time to be married to four people, and frankly I don't want to be married to some of my lovers-- our relationship is excellent as a secondary relationship, but it would be awful as a primary relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/16 03:53 PM
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In 1950, most people found homosexuality disgusting. Does that mean that homosexuality was objectively disgusting and worthy of shame until people agreed it was not disgusting? If so, would you become okay with cuckoldry if we had a cuckold rights movement that led them to no longer be considered disgusting by most people? If not, what's the difference between homosexuality and cuckoldry?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/16 03:51 PM
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Can you explain what the difference is between conditional love and unconditional love that can be suppressed? My husband says: "well, if you suddenly started burning kittens, I would probably take you to a mental hospital and see if they could treat you. And I'd probably wait 48 hours to see if you'd snap out of it. But I would pretty much stop loving you as soon as I realized that the screaming and Naziism were consistent personality traits."
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/16 03:49 PM
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Monogamous people talk this big game about ~the jealousy~ but to be honest in poly relationships it's really not that big a deal. Some jealousy is the product of insecurity ("what if he has a bigger dick than me? then she'll leave me!") or not having legitimate emotional needs met ("I haven't seen my husband in three weeks because he's cavorting with his new boyfriend"). But if all your emotional needs are met and you're coming from an abundance mindset, having recurring jealousy problems is pro…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/16 02:45 PM
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why that bullshit won't work in the real world Many happy polyamorous people say differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/16 02:43 PM
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I have watched my husband have sex with other women, so, um, there's your answer. I do not feel seriously emotionally abused, and in fact find the idea that my loving, supportive, life-enriching relationship is emotionally abusive repulsive. Man, your argument is even worse than factcheckme's. At least hers involves verifiable facts like "STIs are more likely to be transmitted to women" and "pregnancy sometimes results in women's death." Yours falters on such points as "switches exist, and in fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/16 02:40 PM
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No, I mean, why would I wish to be loved unconditionally, as opposed to conditionally? I have just asked my husband, in the interests of empiricism, and his response to the idea of whether he would still love me if I was a screaming Nazi kitten burner was [condescending voice] "no." I believe I will trust my husband on this point over you. The conditionality of his love is precisely what I love about him. I am certain he loves me, and would not feel identical emotions about a Nazi who burns kitt…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/16 02:35 PM
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Can you explain to me how you determine whether something is objectively disgusting, as opposed to subjectively disgusting?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/16 02:30 PM
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The habit of going about declaring things that people enjoy to be psychologically abusive because you don't like them. Example.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/16 02:29 PM
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So instead of making an argument about what you actually believe you've decided to strawman feminists? Charming.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/16 02:28 PM
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That is a very misogynist viewpoint you have there!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/16 01:50 PM
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Is your argument that we should shame cucks because they are coercing their wives into something harmful? That's novel.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/16 01:45 PM
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They have all been well-adjusted and non-distressed individuals? I'm not sure what you're going for here.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/16 01:40 PM
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Children are a vulnerable group and we regularly ignore their consent, because they are kind of stupid and if we left children to their own devices they would never get vaccinated or go to school. Cuckold fetishists, however, are adults.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/16 01:39 PM
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Why would anyone want that? My husband would stop loving me if I became a Nazi, or started screaming at him constantly, or took up a habit of burning kittens to death. His love is quite conditional. However, Screaming Nazi Kitten Burner is a completely different person than me, and in a lot of ways the opposite. I prefer that my husband love me, and not someone else. This necessarily implies that his love is conditional-- it's conditional on me remaining myself, and not becoming a screaming Nazi…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/16 01:36 PM
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Of course there are solid evolutionary reasons why romantic love exists. It motivates the parents of a child to stay together and invest in the child. It's a strong signal (from the male) that he will not abandon her while she's pregnant or breastfeeding and (from the female) that she will not cheat on him and raise someone else's child.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/16 01:31 PM
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Because psychological abuse generally results in happiness, a closer relationship, and lots of orgasms. /s You sound like a radfem.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/16 01:27 PM
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Fetishes only count as mental illnesses if they cause the person distress or impairment in functioning. If not, it is not a mental illness according to the DSM-V, aka, the consensus of mental health professionals. So, no, the vast majority of people with a cuckold fetish are not mentally ill.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/16 01:24 PM
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Bestiality and pedophilia are wrong because they hurt people (well, in the former case animals). Cuckold fetish doesn't hurt anyone. If you cannot see the difference between "it hurts people" and "it's GROOOOOOOOSSS, my FEEEEEEELZ," then I feel somewhat bad for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/16 01:21 PM
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"It's gross"? I thought women were supposed to be the ones who are like feelz not realz?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/16 01:17 PM
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Wow, gender transition is really easy, according to you. All these women go about spending thousands of dollars on surgery and all they had to do was get off on their partner having sex with someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/16 01:13 PM
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I would like to offer up the radical notion that one can be loved neither for one's paycheck nor for one's tits.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/16 08:34 PM
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I believe the cognitive differences between an adult and a two-year-old are much greater than the cognitive differences between a man and a woman, which justifies two-year-olds being unable to vote, given that they cannot even understand the concept. I suspect that, if we are ever in a culture that treats teenagers well, the idea that fifteen-year-olds shouldn't vote will be viewed as laughably ageist. That said, this seems like rather a tangent. I don't care about whether you think that voting …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/16 06:54 PM
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Well, then, I suggest they should stop being doormats. Not only is self-sacrifice about such things not good for you, it's also not good for your partner. If I love someone, I want them to be happy, and if I'm not contributing to their happiness, I want them to leave me. I mean, obviously! (Now, please note that I am using 'benefit' in a broad sense, that means far more than 'money'-- for instance, the primary benefit my husband gets from our relationship is that he likes spending time with me a…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/16 01:54 PM
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Can you give an example of a belief you think means that someone hates women?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/16 01:52 PM
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Women can be misogynistic, because women are capable of having every belief men are capable of having. I mean, 'women shouldn't have the right to vote' would generally be considered misogynistic by people today, but it wasn't very long ago when the majority of women agreed with that statement. If you define 'misogyny' as only things that no women agree with, then no statements are misogynistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/16 02:06 AM
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Pick up new hobbies?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/16 02:03 AM
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I mean, yes, most people are not going to stay in relationships that don't benefit them, submissive or no submissive. I trust my husband to care about my needs and desires; if he betrayed that trust, then I would be extremely upset. That is because I am not a doormat. I am continually puzzled by the number of TRPers who seem upset that relationships are trades.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/16 02:01 AM
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All I've seen her do is, like, mention that she's trans when it's relevant. Trans people existing is not the same as transness being a fashion statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/16 01:49 AM
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Eh, my sister never told our parents about whom she was dating. A good life choice, in retrospect, spared her from a lot of nonsense. Jesus, you don't have sex while your parents are present. You fuck in the backseat of a car, or while they're at work or a party. And if I had a teenager who couldn't hide condom purchases I would be embarrassed to have raised such an incompetent child.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/16 12:44 AM
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...how would you know whether your son is a virgin? Do people generally make a habit of telling their parents about their sex lives?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/16 06:16 PM
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I think I have a better sense of whether I am satisfied with my sex life than I do of whether my blood pressure is high or low. ...I mean, unless you can't tell, and y'all are going about being like "well, I OBJECTIVELY had sex four times this week using fifteen different positions and seven different kinks, so I guess I must be having a good time!" Which would explain a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/16 12:23 AM
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It is fundamentally healthy and non-shameful to take a shit, so how come I can't go up to people in public and tell them about the real monster I had this morning?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/16 05:34 PM
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Well, okay, but I never see anyone quoting anything else. You have failed to establish that it is a cultural narrative, all you're establishing is that Sheryl Sandberg believes a thing. Like, if it was really a cultural narrative, surely one would be able to find many brazen, in-your-face quotes that sum up the mindset? And even if it's hidden, surely one would occasionally want to bring up one of the more hidden quotes in order to point out how it is hiding such a mindset? I mean, I'm not even …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/16 05:31 PM
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You would think that if women being encouraged to act like sluts before getting married to a beta cuck was such a constant cultural narrative, y'all would be able to find more than the one quote.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/16 01:57 PM
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Twilight moms, so probably yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/16 01:54 PM
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Oh, hey, my father was a stay-at-home dad too! :) My dad was one of the first men to go on the 'mommy track' at his work so he could stay home with us, and when I was a teenager he retired to take care of us full-time. My parents have had a happy marriage of 25 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/16 09:52 PM
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But other sexual preferences can be changed: for instance, it's pretty easy for most people to acquire new kinks, as you can see by the fact that facials weren't a thing forty years ago but are very popular now. There are some sexual preferences that are changeable and some sexual preferences that are unchangeable. It is not clear to me, in the absence of other evidence, which category being turned off by SAHDs would fall into.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/16 09:51 PM
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I have been with men who thought of the person attached when they were attracted to me. (And not my achievements either. It turns out that women are something other than boobs with a college major attached.) Saying that men who express sexual desire to women don't think of the person attached is misandrist as hell.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/16 03:29 PM
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To be fair, that's gender dysphoria. I would probably commit suicide if I had to be a woman too, but I also recognize that being a cis woman is significantly easier than being a special snowflake nonbinary.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/16 01:39 PM
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Why do I care about how much effort something takes? Like, I have no doubt that it is very difficult and takes a lot of practice to become the greatest wastepaper basketball player of all time, but I'm not going to go "wow! You're amazing! I am going to bow down before your awesomeness!" And conversely if there were a baby drowning in a pond in front of you and you could rescue them by wading in and getting your feet wet, I don't think I'm going to go "UGH, you know it was really EASY for you to…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/16 01:37 PM
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Have you not noticed the large gap between how many men want casual sex and how many women want casual sex? I think that casual sex being generally unrewarding for women and rewarding for men is a huge part of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/16 03:51 AM
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...cunnilingus is really low-risk for STIs.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/16 03:45 AM
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Teeth can also work as a rake on pussies, as I have learned to my horror.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/16 03:42 AM
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I would like to report from the autoandrophile trenches that being hot and attracted to yourself is totally overrated and jerking off to yourself in the mirror gets old after, like, the hundredth time. It's terrible.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/16 02:57 AM
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Nah, it's because of the tremendous power of the Great Trans Hivemind. It makes all the trans girls become technolibertarian programmers named Alice and all the trans boys become snapback-wearing gender studies majors named Aiden. Of course it makes us all know each other. (As a technolibertarian gender studies major, I queer the binary.)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/16 02:50 AM
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Humans are k-selected. Humans are the most k-selected species. Have you ever noticed someone to have fifty children a year, like rats do? Or thousands a day, like insects? No? That's because WE'RE K-SELECTED. Now you can say "I meant that having casual sex could increase the number of children you have," which is true, but then why bother bringing r-selection into it? Words mean things! You can't misuse biological terminology to add a patina of ~science~ to your ramblings.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/16 10:33 PM
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Do you feel that I cannot tell if someone loves me? Or do you think that love does not involve highly specific mind-states that cannot be perceived visually, and if so can you elaborate?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/16 09:31 PM
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Used to be all a man had to do was bring a job and some money; and all a woman had to do was to bring domestic skills and a womb; and both had to bring a modicum of kindness. And this is desirable to you? I provide value to my husband. I take pride in it. I support him in his dreams. I listen to him. I help him relax after his stressful days at work. I show him things that make him laugh. I bite my tongue when I'm annoyed. I keep track of what he likes so that if I find a book or a movie or a co…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/16 09:28 PM
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The victim believing that if they'll leave they'll die is actually very common in physically abusive situations. Their partner already hits them when they're angry; if they do something to make their partner really angry, it's not unreasonable to conclude that they might die. Not to mention that abusers often do make death threats.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/16 09:11 PM
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I dated an abusive guy but his other girlfriend (polyamory) accused him of abuse and I dumped him in solidarity. Then three weeks later I was like "...hey, wait, maybe the thing where I was frightened to disagree with him because he called me a 'cunt' was the beginnings of an abusive cycle..." I've been sexually assaulted a bunch, mostly in the context of "ha ha groping Ozy is hilarious because they're so ugly no one could ever be attracted to them", but once as an adult by a man who was attract…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/16 09:10 PM
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Men get physically abused too. If you're going to blame the victim, at least do so consistently and without erasing male survivors.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/16 09:05 PM
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And no, you didn't experience objectification: nobody can experience another person's mind-state, regardless of how much feminist propaganda you read telling you otherwise. Wait, what? I must be misunderstanding you. I can work out from context that a person is objectifying me, in the same way that I can work out from context that my husband loves me, that my roommate is annoyed that I have left boxes in the living room, and that my friend likes the Ghostbusters movie. Is it possible I am mistak…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/16 09:04 PM
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But there's a shortage of men in communities with street gangs, because the men keep getting imprisoned; even unattractive men shouldn't have difficulty getting someone. On the other hand, a fuckton of incels are from nice neighborhoods in the suburbs, and essentially none of them join street gangs. I suspect there is a different problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/16 05:06 PM
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Even so, this does seem like it creates a tragedy-of-the-commons situation for men who like ONSes. Any individual man who only wants ONSes has no reason to attempt to satisfy a woman he doesn't want to see again, but if women predict that ONSes will leave them sexually unsatisfied, they will have fewer ONSes-- an awful situation for men who want ONSes.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/16 05:02 PM
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"Objectification is not a thing that happens to anyone" is a different hypothesis than "objectification is sexually arousing to women and objectifying women is necessary to get laid." I am glad that you apparently concede that the latter is not true! I have personally experienced objectification, as well as objectified other people, which is how I know it is a thing that happens. One may also consult papers such as this one which review the research on objectification.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/16 04:57 PM
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If you have an opinion about it, you care, at least a little bit. Otherwise you wouldn't bother to have an opinion and you certainly wouldn't bother to point it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/16 06:01 AM
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You have observed that women are sexually excited when a man they find attractive treats them as an interchangeable thing whose feelings don't have to be taken into account and who can be used for his own purposes and then discarded? Okay. That really isn't my experience, and I cannot offer a hypothesis on the psychology of those bizarre women you apparently know. But seriously. Read the Nussbaum paper I linked. It's good.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/16 03:26 PM
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TBF, I think that it's usually one of those kinks where in the real world you'd like the person to treat you with respect as a person, and then in fantasy land they objectify you. Fucking someone who actually objectifies you seems like a bad idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/16 03:10 PM
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...because it's not a crime to have someone compliment your tits? because even if it was it would be wrong to send someone to prison for crudely complimenting me?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/16 03:06 PM
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NOT ONLY do they think "open relationships" are a bad idea, they can't help but express it to everyone. See, that's the crux of the issue! "A bad idea for me personally" is not the same thing as "a bad idea for everyone," and assuming that it is speaks to a fundamental difficulty with theory of mind. It's not about whether you keep your ideas to yourself; it's about whether you realize that other people have different preferences than you do. For instance, I'm in a 24/7 D/s relationship; I am ow…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/16 03:02 PM
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I mean, either you are mature enough to realize that other people are different from you, in which case we weren't talking about you at all, or you are not, in which case describing your preferences in more detail does not change the reality that many people find it viscerally repulsive to think of owning a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/16 01:44 PM
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Man, if you actually don't care about shit, you don't call it "partaking in degeneracy."
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/16 01:40 PM
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Count me in to the 'I like cleaning' brigade. It is just so satisfying to see a tidy room and neatly folded shirts...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/16 11:42 PM
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I mean, yes, I agree. I am confused what relationship your comment had to my comment though! As you may recall, I said "even the group whose mission statement is Be Less Sexist will often wind up perpetuating patriarchal ideas [i.e. that it is acceptable for women to hate men]" and you responded "People seem to redefine "patriarchal" as anything that works, and then they try to tear it down." Can you explain what you meant?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/16 11:27 PM
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The idea I referred to as 'patriarchal' is that it is acceptable for women to hit men. Do you think that's an idea that 'works'?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/16 07:35 PM
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I agree that feminists do not have an untarnished record on male victims of domestic violence (to put it mildly), but in my experience feminists as a group tend to be better than non-feminists as a group on male survivors. As it happens, people are bad at not being sexist, and even the group whose mission statement is Be Less Sexist will often wind up perpetuating patriarchal ideas.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/16 06:28 PM
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It is possible for all these things to simultaneously be true: 1) Some people get dumped for not doing their fair share of the chores. 2) Some people don't get dumped for cheating on their partner. 3) It is more likely that you will be dumped for cheating on your partner than for not doing your fair share of the chores. 4) Not doing your fair share of the chores harms your partner and the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/16 05:29 PM
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I suspect that a significantly higher percentage of cheating partners get dumped than partners who leave their dishes all over the place.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/16 03:14 PM
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In general, it is considered to be a bad idea to murder people for your own convenience.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/16 02:37 PM
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I've yet to hear a good anti abortion argument that isn't "omg you're killing babies!!!!". Well, yes, the difference between being pro-life and being pro-choice is whether you think a fetus is a person. Pro-choice people believe you should draw the line at birth; pro-life people think you should draw the line at the child being a genetically new individual. Frankly, the former seems a lot more arbitrary and unprincipled than the latter.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/16 02:26 PM
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I think in pretty much any case where you are having a big fight about something stupid like where your husband is going to talk on the phone, the problem isn't the phone.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/16 01:32 AM
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In this case, "I don't want to be your mom" seems to mean "I don't want to nag you about doing the chores you agreed to do," which you agree is a reasonable complaint. I am not sure why you are complaining about something that isn't happening in the article we're talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/16 10:45 PM
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Judging by the fact that he's totally aware that she cares about the glass, I think she told him.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/16 10:42 PM
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I mean, it is not unreasonable to expect your husband to avoid doing things that upset you, even (or especially) if they're not a big deal. Sometimes I go "hey, it's distracting me to hear half your phone conversation, can you go into the other room?" and my husband's like "sure." If my husband's response to that and similar requests was always "no", I would feel unloved, because he doesn't want to mildly inconvenience himself in order to improve my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/16 10:41 PM
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I mean, there's a distinction here. It would be quite unreasonable to expect my husband to know that dishes go in the dishwasher without me saying anything. However, if I've said "I understand that this is stupid, but you putting your dishes in the sink annoys me, please put them in the dishwasher", then I would expect my husband to put the dishes in the dishwasher. This guy apparently had to be told to do it every single time, which is quite unreasonable. Most people are fully capable of unders…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/16 10:33 PM
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...what if one of the parents doesn't want half the custody? Like, maybe they want to get a job in New Zealand, or they are fine with kids when someone else is the primary caregiver but being the primary caregiver drives them nuts, or they never wanted the kid in the first place and are glad to wash their hands of it? Also, how would you deal with hospital visitation, guardianship in the event of brain damage or dementia, custody of the body when someone is deceased, etc.? It seems like you'd ne…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/16 07:00 AM
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They don't tan the way idiot white people do.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/16 12:00 AM
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I'm going to guess at least 150,000.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 02:17 PM
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A job is a sign that you have your shit together in at least one area. If you lose your job-- especially if it's for a reason that's your own damn fault-- then suddenly you don't have your shit together anywhere. Having your shit together is attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 02:11 PM
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Because before she could say "well, he's a drug addict, but at least he brings in a steady paycheck." When he's not even doing the 'at least' thing, it's a wakeup call.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 02:09 PM
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Can you describe an example from your relationship where communication worked to fix a non-trivial problem? You mentioned mental illness, so my anecdote is that communication is invaluable in maintaining a healthy relationship as a mentally ill person. I taught my husband how to respond to my overwhelming emotions ("you need to find the one thing about my emotion that makes sense-- I know it's hard, because my emotions are completely ridiculous, but find the one little grain of truth and validat…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 02:07 PM
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You should wait until whenever you feel comfortable having sex with the person, whether that means your wedding night or five minutes after meeting them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 03:57 AM
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says reddit user "betterdeadthanbeta"
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/16 09:45 PM
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Just don't start whining about the decline of the American woman when no one will put up with that shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/16 09:44 PM
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Is there any way he could have described his experiences that you wouldn't view as humblebragging? In that case, you're just saying that sexually successful people should STFU in this thread about sexually successful people.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/16 02:29 PM
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The advice my parents (happily married for 25 years) gave me is this: a pretty face fades. Marry someone you'd be happy to wake up next to when they're bald and fat and wrinkled, because someday that's going to happen. Ignore shallow things like wealth and attractiveness; instead, concentrate on character and compatibility. Marry someone kind and intelligent and admirable, and most of all marry a friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/16 02:28 PM
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So be monogamous whenever you're conceiving a kid? I mean, I assume you're not planning on doing the Quiverfull thing...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/16 02:23 PM
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I'm confused! Normally, when I have goals, they're because they add to my life, instead of because I want someone else to validate me and give me a life purpose. I mean, how would I even have goals if I wanted someone else to give me a life purpose? Are goals different for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/16 02:15 PM
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Well, yes, but why would you move on to the next one if you already have a sure thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/16 02:07 PM
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dude, pick up a copy of Mistakes Were Made (But Not By Me), all humans have hamsters
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 11:36 PM
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a man should always focus on being in the dominant role and assuming the relationship of dominance, because “dominance is a part of sexuality, and it is the masculine part”. In regards to sexuality, “a woman will look for a man she can devote herself to, she can surrender herself to” Your kink is not my kink but your kink is okay!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 11:29 PM
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Men who are avoiding commitment definitely dump any woman after she shows any interest in him beyond quick sex. That sounds great, if you want to get married! Conveniently filtering out all the commitmentphobes from your dating pool before you have to waste time on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 11:25 PM
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If a woman is going about having casual sex she doesn't like or enjoy because she wants to find a husband, I would suggest to her a different method of finding a husband. Perhaps she should take up lindy hop, or try hanging around her local university's CS building in a short skirt. Not because there's anything wrong with the casual sex method of finding a husband, of course. I myself met my husband through having casual sex with him. But there's no point subjecting yourself to something you don…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 11:23 PM
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Women do not have sex with strangers and then expect never to speak to them again if the sex was good/the guy was cool. We don't believe this. The ones that do are outliers. Honestly, do men do this? What kind of ridiculous person wouldn't go for a second round with a cool person you had good sex with? I mean, maybe if you're primarily interested in sex for validation from hot girls instead of because you want to get off...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 11:19 PM
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Sometimes the guy isn't interested in more than a pump-and-dump anyway, so you can be a perfectly attractive person and still get pump-and-dumped. And, you know, human sexuality is diverse. There is probably someone out there who dumped a perfectly attractive person because they had sex on the first date. The question is really whether you would want to date such a ridiculous person, and IMO it's good riddance to bad rubbish.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 11:17 PM
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Dude, not wanting to fuck someone who's disgusted by you is a perfectly reasonable preference. It sucks that that means u/Carkudo is still incel. But not every problem is fixable.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 09:51 PM
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So you seem to be horrified at the idea of dating someone who cares only about Facebook memes and celebrity gossip. It seems you agree with me that it's a bad idea to date people you find boring. I'm glad we've come to this consensus! :)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 09:44 PM
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Even if I granted your argument, that doesn't prove that men don't have preferences. I'm pretty indiscriminate about candy, but that doesn't mean I can't prefer mint taffy over lollipops.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 01:54 PM
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Lol how retarded does one have to be to discount someone for being something as inconsequential as boring? Well, you're going to be married to the guy. If you feel the creeping horror of "oh my god I am going to have to listen to this guy for the rest of my life", sometimes the mansion seems less appealing. Which is good! I thought y'all didn't like golddiggers. This is literally a case of women caring more about someone's personality than their money, which... I thought you people approved of..…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 01:48 PM
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Unfortunately, the biggest asshole I've ever dated was physically active and didn't drink. My observations seem to suggest approximately equal numbers of assholes in all such groups. (Well, addicts are more likely to be assholes, but even then they're often perfectly nice people-- you just don't leave money lying around. And I have a hard time holding that against them, even though they'd be terrible people to date.)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 01:45 PM
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In my experience, men are capable of having this strange thing we call 'preferences'.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 01:38 PM
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A munch is a (non-sexy) meetup group for kinky people. It's a good way to network in your local kink scene.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/16 01:40 AM
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I mean, sure, if you don't like having casual sex, don't have casual sex. This is an excellent piece of advice. "Don't have casual sex to get a guy if you don't like casual sex" is also good advice in exactly the same sense that "don't go to a book club to get a guy if you don't like book clubs" is. Most of the time it won't work and you'll spend a lot of really boring hours pretending to care about Jane Austen and you have better shit to do with your life. But if you do like casual sex-- if you…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/16 07:59 PM
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Plenty of relationships and marriages started because the woman put her needs/desires first and only had sex in the relationship. Plenty of relationships and marriages also started after sex on the first date. Like, I think when you have sex is a very personal decision that's about your own desires and comfort level. But I'm really not sure that delaying sex, in and of itself, has any effect on whether a guy will date you. I mean, what kind of guy is like "wow, I was really into her, and then it…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/16 07:51 PM
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Blue pill, married. Here's the advice that worked for me: 1) Niche, niche, niche. You only need to marry one person (or for the special snowflakes out there, two). Don't whine to me about how many men aren't interested in you, and don't try to appeal to the lowest common denominator. Find someone who wants to date you. I'm a butch slut, but I don't go around sulking because some man on TRP said that sluts are gross or hairy legs are disgusting. He's not in my dating pool, and I wish him the best…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/16 07:31 PM
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Think about having a conversation with somebody. You probably talk to a lot of people who aren't your partner-- you make small talk with the Uber driver, you chat with a new acquaintance about your puppies, you remind a coworker that they need to finish their project by Monday so you can do your bit. But you also talk to your spouse! And it is a necessary and meaningful part of your affection and bonding with them-- or if it isn't (I understand that not everyone's love language is Quality Time),…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/16 10:50 PM
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Become poly and start going to munches. I personally am aware of several men who were virgins in their late twenties and currently have half a dozen girlfriends.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/16 10:18 PM
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The real thing is VR, not sexbots. VR tech is way closer. A sexbot looks like one thing; VR can provide literally infinite variety. Creating videos that don't look uncanny-valley is a lot easier than creating a robot that doesn't look uncanny-valley. You can do sex acts that aren't physically possible. And for those men that require a bit of dirty talk, they can hook up with a woman man pretending to be a woman who controls the hottie they're having sex with.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/16 10:17 PM
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I'm assuming none of us are robots, of course. I myself am a human. I enjoy all your human activities, such as breathing oxygen and creating acoustic vibrations with my mouthparts and meiosis.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/16 10:14 PM
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A man in his late teens/early 20s is ready to fuck on 10 seconds' notice. After his 30 minute (or less) refractory period, he is ready to fuck again. This is really not true. They're all like "I'm tired", "I'm hungry", "I've already had sex twice today", "I'm busy", "I want to finish this TV show", "my dick is sore"... and don't even get me started on gamers. Me and a girlfriend once got so annoyed by our gamer ex that we started having sex on the bed next to him and he still didn't look up from…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/16 10:10 PM
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Yes, of course. Only if we've flirted quite a bit already, though, it would be super-weird as an opener.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/16 12:27 PM
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Well, can you say the two meanings you mean, then?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 11:16 AM
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Well, no wonder you're confused. If a feminist has an opinion on the wage gap, and you decide that her opinion is about the tastiness of flying fish, you are likely to wind up very confused about what her beliefs are. I think you're using the contest model: you're saying "with alphas, she's going to do anal, but with betas, she's going to give him starfish sex if he's lucky. The alpha gets to go farther (into anal, facials, BDSM, etc.) than the beta does." If you were using the performance model…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 11:16 AM
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She didn't say she'd stayed with him for years, she said that it was years before she had sex-- perhaps she had a dry spell. And even if she did... maybe he had other redeeming qualities?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/16 08:51 PM
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I agree that men typically have higher sex drives than women, but that argument was shitty.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/16 08:48 PM
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Can you explain which meaning you meant, then? I can hardly answer your question if I don't know what you meant!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/16 08:48 PM
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I'm glad you haven't experienced awful sex with orgasms. shudders
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/16 08:45 PM
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Women with estrogen deficiencies also have lower sex drives, so with identical evidence you could prove that women have higher sex drives than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/16 08:43 PM
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Can you give an example of what you mean by a thing people have? The obvious way for me to interpret your sentence is "how do you know that sex is an activity rather than an object?", but that's stupid-- it's obviously not an object, it's not tangible. So I assume you mean something far more intelligent, but I cannot understand it. Can you explain further?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/16 08:41 PM
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"Sex is a collaborative process" talking about actual sex. Like, the act of fucking. Not about the process of obtaining sex. These are two different things. Some people view sex as a sort of contest between men and women: the man tries to push as 'far' as he can, while the woman tries to resist him but eventually lowers her defenses. If the man goes 'all the way', then he has 'scored'. The feminist model, however, is that sex is something that people do together with a goal of mutual pleasure. A…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/16 08:38 PM
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Two, definitely. He probably hangs out in circles where people have casual sex more frequently. The rest of them look like their social circles abide by the three date rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/16 08:30 PM
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A chick who's had a hundred partners who has an unsatisfying sexual partner: "man, this guy's crap. Time to get someone else." A chick who's had no partners who has an unsatisfying sexual partner: "huh, I guess I just don't like sex... time to dead bedroom!" The solution is to git gud.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/16 08:27 PM
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Yes, many. Yes, many. I specifically chose a school that didn't have Greek life. Yes, once or twice, but I'm socially phobic enough that I don't like parties. I don't drink. No. Yes. I've been gangbanged! Yes, basically all the time since I started being sexually active. My school didn't really have athletes.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/16 03:48 AM
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Upvoted for 'Chad Jellydonut.'
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/16 03:17 PM
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Your girlfriends are likely to have more sexual partners than average, for the same reason that your friends are likely to be more popular than you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/16 03:16 PM
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That's no reason to take plastic surgery completely off the table. For a lot of people, plastic surgery is the most efficient way to get that reasonable slice of happiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/16 03:14 PM
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I don't necessarily agree with this post, but I just want to say that it was really thoughtful and I wish there was more content like this on PPD!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/16 03:09 PM
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I think when people say 'sexbots' they generally mean, like, 'a sex doll that is capable of moving around, moaning, dirty talk, etc.,' not any machine that provides sexual stimulation. Like, a Fleshlight machine is a different thing from a RealDoll, if you get me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/16 06:49 PM
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People can already prevent the existence of babies if they want to, it's called 'contraception'. People have children generally because they want kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/16 06:44 PM
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Plato's Symposium.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/16 06:43 PM
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Fleshlights are stigmatized more than vibrators, so I get you, but do you really not see the difference between a vibrator and a sexbot? Anyway, the answer is that women had a feminist movement that put a lot of effort into destigmatizing masturbation, and men didn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/16 06:42 PM
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But they can be fulfilled by friendship and family!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/16 01:31 PM
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My fiance's lower libido than me but he still initiates sometimes! Hell, I've dated asexuals who initiated sometimes. Your wife seems extraordinarily opposed to initiating from my perspective. But, eh, if it's her kink it's okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/16 11:37 PM
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Of course, she almost never, ever initiates, either. Well, there you go. Naturally, if she initiates so rarely she doesn't even know how to go about asking for sex (!), you wouldn't even get an opportunity to turn it down. It says nothing about your respective libidos, just your sex life.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/16 11:19 PM
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Oh, no, I am perfectly confident of my ability to win out over a 20-year-old HB7 from UChicago, because of his affection and commitment to me. But I recognize my limits!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/16 07:09 PM
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If my husband can get an 18-year-old HB9 Ivy Leaguer interested in him, I don't think there's much I can do to stop him from leaving me. :P
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/16 06:36 PM
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Exercise does not generally help people lose weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/16 06:32 PM
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Dude, we had sex three times last week, that's a weird-ass definition of not wanting sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/16 04:42 AM
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I've been in dead bedrooms, they suck, but not every relationship where a man occasionally doesn't want sex is a dead bedroom.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/16 10:39 PM
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Well, I was turned down five times in the last week, but that's unusual! :) We moved and we're getting married next week and my fiance is super-stressed and tends to be uninterested in sex when he's stressed. In general in my current relationship I would say I turn down sex maybe once every six months and my partner turns down sex maybe once or twice a month, usually because he's tired.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/16 08:29 PM
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Except that Laura Doyle clearly says that she thinks a few months of celibacy when recovering from rape is a good idea, not that celibacy whenever she's pregnant is a good idea. You are arguing with a strawman.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/16 08:28 PM
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Fairly regularly? I don't know that I've ever been in a relationship with a man where I wasn't turned down for sex at least occasionally.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/16 06:20 PM
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In a relationship? Perhaps. In marriage, you have no excuses. Fix this before marriage. Its still a woman's prerogative; just don't get butt hurt if the guy goes and finds someone else. I don't think this is rational decision-making on a man's part. A few months of celibacy, if your partner is clearly actively working on recovery (such as by going to therapy, etc.), is a good investment in a happier future sex life. Why blow up a relationship that, presumably, you want to be in (otherwise you wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/16 06:18 PM
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Is a high “gender contrast” needed for good sex? If it's your kink, then it is probably helpful for good sex. But if you don't get off on gender contrast it's hardly necessary. Your kink is not my kink but your kink is okay and all that. Do you find sex to be better if the woman doesn’t explicitly initiate? I do not doubt that there are men in this world who get off on women who don't initiate-- the world is wide and full of things-- but I don't know that I've ever met one. The men I sleep with …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/16 06:15 PM
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Have you ever smelled the soap that smells like cookies? It might make you salivate and your stomach rumble. It might make you hungry. You will probably think about how good cookies would taste right now. You still don't want to eat the fucking soap. This is the way non-asshole men feel about sex with someone who doesn't want sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/16 01:38 PM
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Well, the reason I negatively judge slut-shamers is that I think there is no good reason to slut-shame people; presumably that is the reason everyone negatively judges slut-shamers (after all, people don't generally advocate views they think are wrong). So consistently if you'd like not to be judged for being a slut-shamer then you should not judge sluts either.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/16 06:23 PM
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So, wait... you have the right to judge people negatively for sleeping around, but other people don't have the right to judge you negatively for judging people negatively for sleeping around? Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/16 05:03 PM
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The ability for women to have sex whenever they want to will increase the sex supply but that also means that the ability for women to not fulfill their wifely duties and not have sex whenever they don't feel like having sex will decrease the sex supply. A lot of men (e.g. non-assholes) don't want women to have sex with them when the women don't have sex. So it's a complete positive for men who aren't dickbags. I am sorry about the loss of sex for the dickbag community, which must be very hard o…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/16 03:53 PM
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I don't understand what the ad means and thus don't really have an opinion on whether it is nonconsensual sexual activity or not. But conditional on it being about sex and a woman talking to the man, then it is definitely still objectionable, and I don't think it being a woman talking reduces the chance that it's nonconsensual sexual activity. Women also engage in nonconsensual sexual activity.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/16 03:48 PM
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Dear Sexist Trigger fiends: How do you know that this isn't a woman speaking? Women call men 'babe' as well. Then it's... still nonconsensual sexual activity? And still objectionable? What's your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/16 02:11 PM
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In the vast, vast, vast majority of cases in which your film would come up, you are not going to go to jail, because you cannot be proved guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. On the other hand, you have just nonconsensually recorded sex, which is a crime punished by time in jail in most states, and which is easily proven beyond a reasonable doubt.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/16 02:10 PM
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I am talking about men in my social group (Silicon Valley nerds) because I don't really know what people do in flyover country. Wake up, throw on blue jeans and a T-shirt you got as swag at your last job and take the train to work. Spend most of the day programming and some of it in meetings or browsing Reddit. You live with your girlfriend and four or five roommates in a pretty nice house. Your girlfriend might have a job in tech, might have some kind of highly-educated ill-paying job like jour…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/16 09:59 PM
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In Victorian Britain at least 80% of the population was working class. Some exceptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/16 09:43 PM
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It's sales. It's literally sales. Plus, you have to walk around in those heels...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/16 06:54 PM
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Middle-class and upper-class white women, you mean. Poor women and black women always worked.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/16 01:08 PM
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I'm going to add this thread to the "why are you hanging out with such awful women?" files...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/16 04:09 AM
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I have literally met women who keep refreshing the guy's page on the dating site and saying "why doesn't he message me?" It's a thing. Also it's to a certain degree self-perpetuating-- if you get 100 messages, you don't feel a need to send any.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/16 07:03 PM
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Not that kind of idiot! It's just that seventeen-year-olds in general don't have a ton of life experience. When you're older you're probably going to look back on your high school years and facepalm. It happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/16 11:58 PM
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In dating? No.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/16 01:16 PM
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To quote the song I learned in like kindergarten: Love is like a magic penny, Hold it tight and you won't have any. Lend it, spend it, and you'll have so many They'll roll all over the floor.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/16 01:15 PM
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Seventeen-year-olds are all idiots.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/16 01:14 PM
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Meet Alice and Bob. Alice and Bob are on a dating site. Both Alice and Bob are interested in about 10% of the people they meet and about 10% of the people they meet are interested in them. There are a thousand people on the dating site. Alice gets 100 messages. She messages back the ten men she's interested in, and gets ten dates. Alice feels happy and attractive-- lots of people like her! Bob gets 0 messages. A hundred women have stopped by Bob's ad and said "wow, he's cute, I wish he would mes…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/16 03:39 AM
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I have written nearly identical pep talks to male incels. (Not 100% identical-- the paragraph about geeky guys never ever ever asking you out because they're scared gets swapped for a paragraph about women never ever ever asking you out because Sexism-- but pretty damn close.)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/16 03:36 AM
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I think if OP were the sort of person who went to bars she wouldn't be having this problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/16 03:23 AM
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The guys you're interested in are incredibly shy. (I'm guessing you're a geek and want to hook up with other geeks; if I'm wrong, my advice may not apply.) But take it from someone who's done this a lot: a lot of geeky guys are terrified of women. Like, I've had to learn to ignore body language that signals "I'm not into you", which kinda makes me feel like a rapist, because they're so scared that even if they're into me they'll project a bunch of standoffish body language. Most of the guys you'…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/16 03:20 AM
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I've slept with more than 53 people and yes? Of course I do. It's just that I see no reason why I cannot share a piece of myself with a stranger.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/16 03:13 AM
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I think the key thing is balancing maintaining strong boundaries while also being validating. "I can see you're upset about me leaving. I'm still going out with my friends. I love you and I'll be back soon." And having a sense of humor is key. My fiance thinks my borderline shit is hilarious and kind of adorable, which means it doesn't wear on him as it did on other partners. I think a lot of it is natural personality too. Some people are just better suited to dating borderlines than others.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/16 03:11 AM
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Dented can theory is an invention by guys who have had trouble attracting women. I think it was made up by u/madscientistlove, who is female.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/16 03:04 AM
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Saaaaaame. Like, as a crazy person, why would I ever want to date a sane person? IME they all freak out as soon as you mention having gone to brain jail or exactly where you got those scars from, and they don't appreciate any of my best stories about the time I hooked up with a homeless drug dealer or broke into a marine bio lab to say hi to the octopus, and they always take everything so goddamn seriously. Give me someone who can bitch about the brain zaps any day of the week. (My fiance's an e…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/16 03:02 AM
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Usually the flaws are, in women, high N, inflated sense of SMV, and being acclimated to men who either use them or suck up to them. In men, the flaws are development of some personality disorder, antisocial/criminal/thuggish behavior, excessive passivity, average to below-average looking, or lack of ambition. It is puzzling to me that there is not a single item that appears on both lists. Like, men and women are different, fine, but surely some parts of what makes someone a terrible person to da…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/16 02:56 AM
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with the same kid watching them grow
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/16 08:49 PM
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Yes, but 'baby fever' doesn't refer just to wanting kids, it refers to an almost physical craving for them. And if you'd like to spend hours a day with the same kid watching them grow, having kids is basically your only option.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/16 03:27 PM
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To be fair, there are reasons to have kids other than baby fever. Like, maybe you like spending time with kids, but don't feel any particular craving to have one.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/16 11:00 PM
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Some men do too. I'm not sure that there's a gender difference in level of baby fever (as opposed to in social acceptability of cooing over babies).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/16 02:47 PM
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