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Dude, it is not a new book, it is the same 209 pages book that somehow he managed to spread into 318 pages, and I do not know how? The Flow on audio is not updated because of the reason I mentioned. If you have 209 pages book, then it is the exact same thing from A to Z, just with a new logo of the site.
/r/RedPillBooks24/12/22 10:06 AM
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Todd is a wuss. He's bragging about how he banged thousands and thousands of girls (which already sounds fake and ridiculous), and supposedly is teaching you how to seduce hotties, yet he married a solid 5. Do you take advice from people like him? No credentials.
/r/seduction01/11/22 10:25 AM
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Dude, in order to get a girl that is 8-10, not only do you need to approach, but you need to have a top game also, especially if your physical look isn't on the stronger side. Without approaching them, you will never get them, and you need to go through the trial and error phase first. Like everything in life, it will not be smooth at first, so you need to face a lot of rejection at the beginning, there is no shortcut to that unless you're a celebrity or something.
/r/seduction31/10/22 02:04 AM
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Well, most girls that live alone will invite you to their place for sure, ofc, if they are attracted to you.
/r/seduction30/10/22 02:58 AM
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Online dating is waste of time, hot young girls are flooded with offers, and they have higher standards cause being too young with a lot of choice. Approach in person, that will separate you from the ithers, and kearn the game.
/r/seduction29/10/22 11:18 AM
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Well, this works the best with confident, smart and sexy women, and less with insecure and ugly/fat ones.
/r/seduction27/10/22 05:08 PM
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The only time when it would be lame is if you do it in an insecure way. Girls are attracted to masculinity and confidence. So if you pull it off confidently, by not hiding that you are a sexual being, she may pretend to be shocked, but that is just a test to see your reaction, are you really confident to back it up? If she complains about how all guys are the same, they only want one thing, and you're like, oh yes, I know, I am not one of them, blah blah, you lost. You need to say something like…
/r/seduction27/10/22 01:10 PM
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Dude, you just tease her then about something sexual that she said, and if she smiles and like it, you just grow the balls and kiss her. They will not reject you if they are smiling after teasing her about something sexual. Girls who become defensive or offensive then are not interested, and with experience, you can recognize them.
/r/seduction27/10/22 11:48 AM
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Maybe he travels often so not all girls are from the same place? In my case, I used to get repeatedly awesome results, and loads of matches, and prove it again and again when creating a new account until July last year, then all of that vanished...how? They somehow tweaked the algorithm, so no matter how strong my bio I put in, or how good my photos I have, and I'm tall and handsome, I just can't get even the 40% of results that I used to have. Somehow the algorithm is now pushing me to only 40+…
/r/seduction27/10/22 08:35 AM
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He's still bitter about that one girl. xD
/r/seduction26/10/22 08:28 PM
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Exactly, that was my case too. I was always finding excuses. When I was 17-22 yo, I was like, eh, I'm too young to approach, and most girls are older than me anyway (but I did an online game at that time, and had dates), then I improved and had a lot of success after 25 yo up until 38 yo, aka now. Now I'm in some awkward phase in life as if I lost my mojo, so I'm now like, I'm too old for most girls, blah blah, but ofc, just a lame excuse for me to not approach. So I must find my way back, lol.
/r/seduction25/10/22 11:04 PM
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Online profile on dating apps. I've seen plenty of couples searching that way.
/r/seduction25/10/22 07:43 PM
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You probably behaved too neutrally around them, didn't flirt, or did not flirt properly. You MUST behave in a sexual way with them by teasing them, and things like that. Do not hide your sexual interest in them.
/r/seduction23/10/22 11:33 PM
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It is true. You will never see a hot girl that is with a guy who put way more effort than her, and it lasts. Nope. From my experience, when girls are really into a guy, they will invest more than him, and as long as it is like that, it will last. Ofc, I am not talking about her putting way more effort, and he don't care. That would work only if a girl has some issues.
/r/seduction23/10/22 03:17 PM
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Ah, it happens man, a lot of times a girl will stare at a guy, and then when he goes over to introduce himself, she will brush him off or pretend that she didn't look. I mean, I was seeing one girl staring at me for years, and when I approached her, ok, she was not rude, flirted a bit with me, was talkative, but, after 10. minutes or so, her bf came out of nowhere and waited for me to finish with the conversation. But prior to that approach, I would see her going out only with her one friend, an…
/r/seduction19/10/22 08:23 AM
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Hahaha, girls will do all the work. That is NOT what they want. They want YOU to show BALLS, that is what attracts them, and not you to be feminine and expect her to be masculine. No hot girl will ever seduce you first among dozens of options unless you're a celebrity or something. Yes, when you seduce them, then they should put more effort after you sleep with them, but prior to that, you must do most of the work.
/r/seduction17/10/22 12:41 PM
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Yeah, most dudes are full of excuses. I'm 6'3" and handsome, I know because I've been told that a lot of times, girls were approaching me quite a lot, and guess what, I was rejected a lot when I was shy and insecure while approaching, good looks and height don't mean shit if you don't have right mindsets, confidence, charisma, etc. Those guys that think that they would have a better chance if they were born handsome and tall are just making excuses. It's all about being the best version of yours…
/r/seduction12/10/22 08:29 PM
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Dude, a paid hooker experience will help you 0 with approaching and getting hotties in a bar. Anyone can pay to fuck, even grandpa. Ofc that she will act only to get the money, it's her job.
/r/seduction11/10/22 09:01 AM
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When I was younger, they often made the first move, even directly, like, can I kiss you, pulling my hand, or even stopping next to me, then commenting loudly about how she could not believe that she stood by the guy like me, etc. But yeah, all in all, pretty girls approached me, but maybe 4-5 in total, others were more subtle, and a lot of average girls did make the first move on me.
/r/seduction10/10/22 12:00 AM
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Because it sucks to hear 100x stupid - I have a bf line, or to get one worded answers, cause it mostly feels one sided, not fun at all.
/r/seduction09/10/22 06:02 PM
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Ok, you do that, but you do not approach girls, or approach very rarely...they will not fall from the sky into your lap just because you are doing all those things, lol.
/r/seduction06/10/22 12:37 AM
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Well, my friend from college always said that I have a pretty face, and she is into me and has tried many times to be with me, so you figure it out.
/r/seduction04/10/22 11:33 PM
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He forgot to mention that he dreamed about that last night. xD
/r/seduction03/10/22 10:13 PM
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Well, if you read their bio, they will almost always state how they are not there for hookups, no ons, blah blah. But the truth is that they just must pretend in order to not be labeled as a slut. But yeah, most of them are open for hook up. Some rare girls are direct enough to mention that they are DTF, but the majority of girls are not. Ofc, do not mention it, because those that do want that and find you attractive, will let you know, or start sexting, etc.
/r/seduction03/10/22 02:09 PM
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You are right, I've noticed it too. Yet they expect to find a rich men according to them, yet when they are over 26, their criteria starts to drop. And they often remain the same, even at 30, party girls with no big goals. Just being bored and lazy whole day, and most of the time spending on social networks, photoshopping one picture for three hours cause they are so insecure.
/r/seduction01/10/22 05:56 PM
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It is because girls love to fix such broken men, and if they succeed, they feel accomplished. On the other hand, some girls are with them because they are addicted too. The same as most girls prefer guys with tats.
/r/seduction01/10/22 09:10 AM
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Bingo! She must be in love first, and confess it! Otherwise, the game is over.
/r/seduction29/09/22 08:47 PM
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Ah, classic mistake. A Guy is a friend of a girl, he is attracted to her but behaves neutral, and then all of sudden confess his feelings for her. This leads to rejection 100% The right way to do it is to flirt with her, and if she flirts back, just kiss her, and that's it. Dude, girls should confess their feelings to you, confessing is for girls, got it? Not the other way around. That is not how it works. Jeez, learn the basic stuff.
/r/seduction29/09/22 07:56 PM
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It doesn't mean that he is doing something wrong with the type of girls he likes, and something right with the ones to which he is not attracted. Yes, sometimes that IS a problem. Other times, it is just that those not attractive girls, just like guys, must chase in order to get something, because their options are limited, unlike hotties. So yeah, for better-looking girls you need to stand out, aka to have a tighter game.
/r/seduction28/09/22 08:55 PM
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Yeah, I understand your pain. Well, the only option is to move out asap. Until then, you can go to her place, rent an apartment, do it in your car, etc. I had that problem too, but the girl I was seeing back then was living alone, so it was great. It's hard when you cannot live the life how you want to, without being judged on everything you do. And the worst part is that if they see a girl that you just want to bang, they will think that it is your gf, or if not, something's wrong with you. Dam…
/r/seduction27/09/22 12:59 PM
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Well, if you cannot live alone in an apartment, or rent it, then go to her place, or yes, you can do it in your car too. And why do you think it is not possible to fuck in your room? Is your room next to your parent's room?
/r/seduction27/09/22 12:40 PM
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I understand you, but you MUST learn how to not take it personally. See it as not being compatible with that girl, as it is, a normal thing, and move on. It sucks, but you must approach in orther to get what you want.
/r/seduction26/09/22 08:25 AM
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Exactly! Often girls who seem bored or cold, will give you their number and go out with you, while those that seem open and positive would reject you or flake.
/r/seduction21/09/22 12:12 PM
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Exactly! As long as you are making her feel those desirable emotions, you will be her 10/10, even tho you're maybe just 6 or 7. It's all avout how you make her feel, what type of emotions.
/r/seduction20/09/22 12:26 AM
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Yeah, exactly. Usually when they are rejecting they will be like - maybe, don't have time, we'll see. If you get any of this bs excuses, just move on and forget that she exists.
/r/seduction20/09/22 12:21 AM
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Actually, many girls have an open type. It is not true that girls choose strictly based on looks cause you can often see an ugly and bald/fat guy with a hottie, and it wasn't money. Another proof that personality traits matter more to girls is that, they can feel attracted to a specific guy based on his looks, and when they actually talk to a guy, they can feel disappointed while saying that there is no spark. Why if they liked him? Because you need to create that spark and display BALLS.
/r/seduction20/09/22 12:13 AM
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Exactly, the same! I lose interest if a girl don't find me attractive because I value myself highly, especially if she was bitchy while doing so. I just move on, and communicate in a formal way, just out of politeness, when needed. Otherwise, I just ignore them. They start to become annoying to me.
/r/seduction20/09/22 12:04 AM
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Pity, cause it seems to do wonders. If you have a game, and loads of hotties are already THAT open to you, only the sky is the limit. He was in the demand whole night.
/r/seduction16/09/22 09:16 PM
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Nah, just remembered some specific situation, and wanted to share it. It popped up in my mind. It was at the beginning of the year ofc.
/r/seduction16/09/22 08:59 PM
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Yeah, it's all about expanding your comfort zone on a daily level, learning from mistakes, and doing repetitions. It's like when you are stuck in a game, at some specific level, and you are just pushing until you just know what you have to do in order to pass that level. The same is with girls. Every day you should do some tasks that are challenging your comfort zone, that way you also feel alive and in control. You are not hiding from the world.
/r/seduction15/09/22 09:35 AM
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Don't bother with that girl. You dodged a bullet.
/r/seduction13/09/22 03:20 PM
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Most hot girls are online only for an ego boost OR to advertise their IG, aka to collect followers. Better approach them IRL.
/r/seduction13/09/22 03:10 PM
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It means that you were a neutral nice guy who didn't flirt with a girl, so you made her feel neutral about you, aka no spark was created.
/r/seduction13/09/22 03:04 PM
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Confessing your feelings is for a girl dude. It doesn't work for a man, and most of the time leads to a rejection. Bad way to get a girl.
/r/seduction13/09/22 07:40 AM
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Haha, dancing monkey? You have totally wrong perception of the approach. I never danced around her, nor chased her, I approached only once. As a man, you must approach, unless you are a celebrity. If a girl is flirting but is taken, then you know that the person is not reliable, and you wouldn't want her anyway. Until you approach, you don't know. Dancing monkey is something else buddy, a guy chasing a girl who uses him for constant attention and other things, is always available for her amuseme…
/r/seduction06/09/22 12:10 PM
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Victim? Lmao...I wouldn't call myself a victim. How I see it, I gave her a chance to meet me and make things happen, she was taken, no more chances with me, aka her loss. I only give one chance to any girl, after that, I'm unavailable for them.
/r/seduction06/09/22 11:37 AM
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Indeed.
/r/seduction06/09/22 11:07 AM
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There is one girl that whenever I spot her in some pub or bar, she is looking so directly at me, and then talking with her girl friend while still looking at me. It was like that whenever I would see her. I approached her once, directly, confidently, I was touching her, she was laughing, I was flirting, everything seemed well, then all of sudden, her bf came by the table, was waiting for me to finish and leave, I just said Hi, and left that table. Still, since then, she is going out with friend,…
/r/seduction06/09/22 10:59 AM
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Wow, super strange that a hot girl will show you interest via text right away just because of your pics. Or this girl is maybe someone's 6 or 7 in reality. The hotter the girl, more choice she has, and thus is not so easy, lol. Whenever I match with hotties (and I'm good looking and tall), they either flake on date, or answer with yes, no, maybe, aka play hard to get.
/r/seduction05/09/22 07:23 PM
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Dude, even if they were single, you would get rejected, and here is why. Firstly, you shouldn't approach by asking if can you buy a drink...why? It is as if you are not worth enough as you are to talk to them, so you are trying to buy their time, this is how they see it, believe me. Plus, some of them can have a bf and still use a free drink, so it is pointless. Next, a big one also, one hour of friendly talk without flirting? Lmao...this will NEVER get you an attractive girl if you behave like …
/r/seduction04/09/22 11:24 PM
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Nope, have self-respect. Even if she ignores one text, move on. Don't waste your time or humiliate yourself. When you text them repeatedly, girls know you have no options, which is not attractive to them. All pretty/hot girls want a guy who has options but chooses them among many other women.
/r/seduction31/08/22 08:15 PM
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Exactly! Women have an open type. This is why she will say that she wants a tall and dark guy, yet finish with fat and bald. Why? Because that guy triggered her feeling of attraction with his personality traits. That is when women will see you as a handsome guy, cause you attracted her. It happens so many times...girls can be even grossed by your look, but if you display desirable personality traits, she can see you in a totally different light. A girl's brain is NOT the same as a guy's brain. F…
/r/seduction26/08/22 07:09 PM
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Well, when I was younger, I used to hang on longer, but with age, I have no patience or nerves like before and don't put up with BS behavior. So if I approach confidently, and in a relaxed way, and the girl appears boring, a bad communicator, or acting superior, I just move on to the next one. Ice-queen behavior is so annoying. I am not interested in insecure girls that have to put up an act of being superior to mask their insecurities, and I know that they're not. You wouldn't believe how many …
/r/seduction25/08/22 08:46 AM
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Not to mention that Tinder became useless, because, up to July last year, I would constantly get a TON of matches, even quality ones, but since then, barely 10-20 matches! And I had over 350 in a short period. They screwed up the algorithm, so I figured out that I'm the same guy, tall, handsome, with high-value info, it's just that my profile is not shown to younger hot girls because of their tweaking to the algorithm. And no, not because I used a free account, even platinum users feel cheated. …
/r/seduction25/08/22 08:40 AM
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Start with a statement, opinions...it will not put too much pressure on a girl like questions will. Then you see if she's responsive or not, and then the questions will come. Statements also help with shy and insecure girls. It is always better to talk more at the beginning.
/r/seduction25/08/22 01:33 AM
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Numbers game work if you live in a bigger city, if in a smaller, plus you're picky, chances are slim, lol.
/r/seduction25/08/22 01:26 AM
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Dude, it is like that for the majority of people, handsome or not, tall or not, especially if you live in a smaller city. The reason is simple. They have so many offers in person, and via social networks, so 95% of girls on dating apps that are pretty, and especially hot, are there for an ego boost, or to collect IG followers because if you pay attention, the about section is always only IG. So I would say approach in person, you will never get hottie via dating apps if you are not a celebrity o…
/r/seduction24/08/22 02:10 PM
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What is wrong with these guys daily posting about peacocking? Dude, when you are confident with enough skills, you do NOT need any peacocking, lmao. Name me one proven successful seducer that is relying on peacocking. Nope...because when you are THAT good with women, you can wear even slippers and shorts, and you will seduce them. Wake up.
/r/seduction24/08/22 10:26 AM
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Nah, it just means that you lack true confidence. You don't need peacocking nor their permission to approach. You're looking for signs and an easy way so you can start talking. No hot girl will give you any sign, and they do not care about peacocking.
/r/seduction21/08/22 11:17 AM
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The best opener is to just confidently introduce yourself while looking her in the eyes, with a smile, but not a cheesy one.
/r/seduction21/08/22 10:36 AM
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Peacocking does nothing when it comes to attracting women. It's all about your personality and not superficial stuff. Yeah, some girls may notice you, but if you don't know how to attract them, it will not do anything.
/r/seduction21/08/22 10:15 AM
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Yesh, way easier via day than night for many reasons.
/r/seduction21/08/22 07:32 AM
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Yeah, it is not fun, cause if you're picky, and live in a smaller town, and have a smaller choice, most of the girls you like will be taken. It fuckin' sucks, and it all seems one-sided.
/r/seduction21/08/22 02:36 AM
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Meh, it sucks when you realize that you will get that kind of an answer 80% of the time.
/r/seduction21/08/22 02:22 AM
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Yup, I cut immediately after those BS excuses - maybe, we'll see, don't have time/i'm busy...all of those are nice ways of saying - not interested.
/r/seduction16/08/22 12:00 PM
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Not true at all...so many tall and handsome guys get rejected. I've read a ton of stories like that, and know personal examples.
/r/seduction15/08/22 09:34 PM
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Yeah, seems relatable. I'm 6'3" and also handsome and have been approached by pretty girls from time to time, even had a lot of success online. Yet when I approach, no matter if in casual, relaxed, or what way, they are all taken, difficult to talk to, it all seems one-sided. Attractive girls have way more options online and in person also, so no wonder that they are not interested when you approach them...they get already a lot of attention.
/r/seduction15/08/22 08:52 PM
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Because most of those self-proclaimed nice guys are actually neutral guys without balls. How many times have I seen guys approaching girls, just talking neutral about different stuff, for an hour, girls leave, and they are like wtf? I mean, if you do not flirt, how do you expect that she feels spark and attraction?
/r/seduction11/08/22 03:08 PM
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Yeah, it gets discouraging. It appears as if only you want something, and they are like, who cares, I'm enough to myself kinda behavior. It's not fun at all and kinda kills your desire to approach. But they would be like - why no guys are approaching, or their mothers would be like - nowadays, guys are pussies, they are not approaching, yet girls are alone by the table. Yes, they are, but they are all doing what you described. Girls' night, this or that. And it's not about approaching. Even if y…
/r/seduction11/08/22 09:59 AM
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The thing is, they must invest more than you, especially at the beginning. If you confess your emotions first, you're done, no challenge, or anything. They must wonder if you want more with them, not the other way around! They want to experience a wide range of emotions, and by serving yourself on a silver platter, they cannot feel what they need.
/r/seduction11/08/22 12:18 AM
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Yeah, exactly. Once I was near a group of girls, who were looking at the band, and one girl was like, who I am looking at, her or her friends? I was like, you, I like your energy. After that line, she asked me for my phone number, and everything was super easy. On the other hand, a handful of times, I invested more and was even more ballsy with other girls, yet no results, lmao.
/r/seduction11/08/22 12:10 AM
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Doesn't matter. What girls say and fall for is completely different. I'm 6'3 and even handsome, over internet girls are like wow, I would def. notice a guy like you in a bar. And then in a bar no hot girls are noticing me.
/r/seduction10/08/22 12:05 AM
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All hot girls have Insta account in their about section. Ofc, they are feeding their ego and boosting their IG followers.
/r/seduction08/08/22 11:55 PM
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I'm not saying that it is often or normal, I am just saying what I've noticed. When you see their IG in the about section, you know that she's just there to increase her follower count, and not to date.
/r/seduction07/08/22 12:53 PM
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Well, you must learn to swallow your pride and change your mindset. Rejections suck, but it is necessary in order to grow. You will fail million times in life, business, school, job, whatever. It just will make you stronger, and if you avoid being rejected in any way, you will never succeed in life. You must face your fears in order to succeed. If you avoid them, they will only become bigger and bigger over time.
/r/seduction07/08/22 11:34 AM
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It is the same everywhere. If a girl is hot, she will just use her pretty face to collect followers via dating apps, and then offer them OF, aka to earn money from them. Hotties do not need dating apps to find a man...they just need an ego boost and to earn money cause of their looks.
/r/seduction07/08/22 10:35 AM
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I was once in that situation at work. Would see that girl only on breaks, and sometimes we would be alone, but for a five or ten minutes max.. She was shy, and rarely talked with anyone, yet she talked with me a lot...even flirted a bit. I wasn't sure if she was single, but I invited her for a drink via fb. She rejected me with an excuse of having no time, and did it kinda bitchy. That irrirated me, so at work, I would return - hi, and ignore her. She put an effort with various questions and pre…
/r/seduction06/08/22 01:08 PM
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Why would you be a friend with a girl you like, but she rejected you? That would not be genuine. Pointless.
/r/seduction06/08/22 11:26 AM
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Dude, it's all about confidence, hair or not. Some people even look better bald. Vin Diesel, Bruce Wilis, Jason Statham, etc. If you are confident, you can get a girl, hair or not. It is one thing what women say, and the other thing what they react to.
/r/seduction06/08/22 09:05 AM
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No, they are not. They only count LTR, and in a meanwhile they have FWB which doesn't count. 🤣
/r/seduction04/08/22 03:03 PM
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Actually, that would work if you previously attracted a girl/woman, but if not, it will not work, girls will rarely see you as a mysterious guy and become intrigued. So you need to actively spark attraction by talking to them, like, 95% of the time.
/r/seduction03/08/22 11:05 PM
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Confidence, masculinity, charm, charisma...
/r/seduction03/08/22 10:07 PM
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Exactly, women know that their looks are their no. 1 thing, as they age, they are losing their market value, so now they must fight for attention, and cannot be too picky if they don't want to end up alone.
/r/seduction03/08/22 10:04 PM
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Younger girls are way more insecure/shy, so over time, things get easier, and a person becomes more mature. On the other hand, when they are in their early 20s, all of them think that they will find some tall businessman, aka will get marry well one day, but as soon as they quickly get to their mid-20s or late 20s, their criteria start to drop because they are realizing if they want to have a kid, it is desirable to do it now, and because Mr. handsome tall businessman didn't appear, any decent g…
/r/seduction03/08/22 09:59 PM
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Well yeah, that is correct. You should have independent confidence, that doesn't depend on how a girl behaves around you. You should not lose confidence or attach your value to the outcome. Ofc, logically, you should challenge hotties because they got used to guys being desperate to be with them, so yeah, when you flip the script, you will be one of the rare guys that women call real men, so now they will be desperate to be with you, cause you are rare...it will have the same effect as when a ma…
/r/seduction02/08/22 03:03 PM
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Well yeah, I would just forget about her.
/r/seduction02/08/22 02:25 PM
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Maybe she was busy so she wasn't on social networks that often, aka something came up, or she didn't like what you wrote and thus was disappointed and not anticipating your message. All in all, low level of interest. Girls are super eager when they like a guy, so if they leave you for days without texting or whatever, that's bad.
/r/seduction02/08/22 08:53 AM
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Yeah, it's quite strange, I've noticed this myself also. I know everything about attraction and spark, and pretty girls aporoached me before, I'm tall and handsome, yet, when I approach, even when challenging girls, I do not get wow reaction like some less handsome guys. Heck, I know plenty of small guys that girls are obssessed with. I even saw guys not doing anything, even behaving as they don't care about girl, and she is all over them, fighting for attention, while the guy just don't care. F…
/r/seduction02/08/22 08:15 AM
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Dude, you can't just approach, have a neutral safe talk, and expect her to feel attracted? Spark attraction by being ballsy, flirt with her, etc. The boring safe talk will always leave them feeling neutral thus excusing themselves. Make them feel special and wanted. They just react to how you make them FEEL.
/r/seduction02/08/22 06:55 AM
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Some girls are just bad communicators and shy, thus need more time to open. In that case, you do not start with questions like on a job interview, you help her by talking more, making statements etc. So it's up to you to leave or not. But if she's hot, she will always ACT like that, to test your confidence. Will you crumble under pressure or not. Real man or not.
/r/seduction02/08/22 06:49 AM
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Dude, girls do not give a fuck about men's looks if they CAN attract them properly through certain personality traits, the same works if a dude is only hot, but cannot seduce...he will not get anything just because of his looks. At least not any 8s, 9s or 10. If you CAN seduce a girl, even if you are 6 or 7, she will see you as a 10, literally. The same as if you are 9 in terms of looks, but cannot seduce them properly, they will be repulsed as if you are 5. Those are the facts, and people who a…
/r/seduction01/08/22 10:57 AM
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Well, it's the same as how girls/women describe men that are not confident but are hitting on them. The same thing is with men when unattractive women want us. Don't say that girls do not reject harshly and say many nasty things to the person that they do not like, or at least tell to their friends.
/r/seduction01/08/22 10:51 AM
3

Exactly my man, they are just using dating apps for an ego boost AND to increase their IG followers, because they want to promote their OF there. Basically, just using their looks to earn money, because it is so easy to attract a guy.
/r/seduction01/08/22 10:31 AM
1

You wanna say that you were unsuccessful, you learned about self-improvement stuff and quickly became successful with girls? Are you approaching hotties or ordinary girls? Are you direct in your approach?
/r/seduction29/07/22 10:10 PM
1

Oh, I remember when I was way younger, going out in a group with some guy that was good looking, but man, was his breath awful even from half meter distance...then, later on, I see a girl kissing him passionately, and I was like, wth...wanted to puke. Impossible that it didn't bother her, but anyway, maybe she was too drunk.
/r/seduction27/07/22 04:56 PM
14

Ofc, I have no time for a drink is a classic bs excuse. Different would be if there is a counteroffer. Otherwise, no motivation, aka low attraction level.
/r/seduction26/07/22 11:15 PM
1

Exactly. I remember when I was clueless with girls, and had a female friend that was fairly hot, and went out once on Saturday night with her. Man, so many guys said hi to me, shook my hand, and I didn't even know them, etc. I was like, wth, and then friends that saw me with her, tomorrow they were like, woah, woah, who is her, blah blah. They were treating me like a king, or some superstar. Lmao. How you don't understand? If girls or dudes see you with a pretty girl, they will think that you ar…
/r/seduction26/07/22 08:11 PM
1

Oh, believe me, when something like that happens, you must show that you are emotionally stronger than her. So it means, it is ok what you said, you should call her on bs, but you definitely don't want to go into why territory, because she will have more power in that situation, and you don't want that.
/r/seduction21/07/22 10:00 PM
2

Dude, think logically, attractive girls on dating sites are cluttered with low-value beta males who cannot even approach in person! Plus, hot girls have so many options online and in person, so you are not the only one who wants them, and look decent! They do not need to chase anyone. Most of the time I only see hot girls advertising their IG on dating sites, so they can promote their OF.
/r/seduction15/07/22 10:10 PM
1

Todd is so good that he married average looking girl? His game is non-existent.
/r/seduction14/07/22 01:30 PM
8

Listen, I have had it since being a kid, my brother also, my mom has it, maybe she infected us while kissing, or some other people. It is quite common to get it, and nothing to worry about. The only irritating thing about it is that sometimes you get blisters on the lip, and that's it. But strangely, I've been with a lot of chicks, and they do not have blisters. I mean, ok, sometimes you can have them once per year, sometimes once in seven years, but my friends also that drank sometimes from the…
/r/seduction10/07/22 10:51 PM
4

Indeed, they are shallow. I know so many wannabe models that are promoting their IG on dating apps because they know that most men will fall for their photoshopped look, and will add them, so they can promote OF account from there, and earn money through a bunch of horny guys. Those girls are physically 7 at best, but with all that make-up, they appear as even 9. What's funny is that they are just tall, have slightly better than average faces, and even don't have tits at all! I mean, totally fla…
/r/seduction09/07/22 11:59 AM
10

Ofc, nothing unfamiliar, confidence (balls of steel level), masculinity, emotional intelligence, charm, charisma, and social intelligence.
/r/seduction05/07/22 09:34 PM
24

Actually, I tried the same thing with one girl 10 years ago. When I acted nice and was funny, she was ofc just nice and neutral. But then I was kinda pissed off, because back then I didn't know what I learned later, and I was just writing how all of them are just attracted to assholes and bad boys when we discussed those things, and I was kinda cruel to her, so I've noticed big shift aka transformation in her behavior, the worse I've been, and crueler, she was treating me better, even held a per…
/r/seduction05/07/22 05:31 PM
1

Yeah, that missing you line should've been on her part, not yours, girls like challenges, move on, and learn from mistake.
/r/seduction05/07/22 10:30 AM
1

You just need more practice. Theory is once, but you need to get through many different scenarios, so then you will not froze, but will know. The more you do it, the more it will become automatic for you. First you need to start with positive mindsets, remind yourself of all good things about you, and think positively. Bad mindsets will only increase anxiety. Before you approach, don't think if you have a chance, but rather if that person is good enough for you. Just keep trying, don't give up. …
/r/seduction02/07/22 01:28 AM
2

Don't act like a clown. Girls do not like goofy humor, nor are attracted to that.
/r/seduction01/07/22 07:11 PM
2

By having a choice of women, you become less needy. Needy just tells that you have a scarcity mindset, instead of an abundance mindset.
/r/seduction30/06/22 11:28 PM
5

Yup, I've noticed that Tinder fucked up their algorithm since July last year, now I hardly have any matches, yet quality ones, and before that, I was drowning in matches.
/r/seduction30/06/22 11:26 PM
1

Exactly, and more often than not, most of the party girls will reveal themselves quickly, so when they say that they may cheat sometimes while drunk, and it happened to them - believe them! And yes, you will not be an exception.
/r/seduction30/06/22 09:01 PM
3

Could be. But the thing is, I never paid Tinder to have Plus or Platinum, or whatsoever. I always used it free, a basic account, and still had a ton of matches, always. Then they realized that if you can do that on basic, why would you buy a Platinum account, so they started messing things up. Things were never been the same since July last year. But I also read a lot of comments from Platinum users about how they are been scammed, still have no matches, and are invincible, yet they used to have…
/r/seduction30/06/22 09:17 AM
3

Some men are just born naturals with chicks, who aren't, they can learn from the right source how to be one. Some people claim that they never experienced rejection, but I think that it is BS.
/r/seduction30/06/22 12:43 AM
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Well, I've noticed that since July last year, Tinder drastically changed its algorithm. I always had a ton of matches with strong descriptions and good photos, but now not only did the quality of matches go downhill, but it seems as if I am invincible to hot girls. They fucked up algo.
/r/seduction30/06/22 12:12 AM
1

Well exactly, not for attraction.
/r/seduction29/06/22 06:33 PM
1

Then you are clueless with girls/women, and don't tell me that you aren't, cause you don't know how attraction works.
/r/seduction29/06/22 12:07 PM
1

Peacocking doesn't work with humans, aka girls/women, it doesn't attract them whatsoever. You need to display desirable personality traits to them, and balls also, that is what matters.
/r/seduction28/06/22 11:02 PM
0

Well, girls/women usually get disappointed if the sex was bad. But if you were good at it, and didn't mess up something later, then I would just wait for her to text you, because you already reached out. The way it works is that most of the time, a girl/woman should be chasing you after sex, that is how it works, then they start to wonder if you want something more.
/r/seduction27/06/22 11:56 PM
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Not true at all. More often than not, I see ugly, or average guys with hotties. Why? Because being confident, charismatic, and charming, matters way more than looks. Why do you think there are a lot of handsome and tall guys being rejected non-stop? They don't have a game. PLUS, even hotties say that they prefer an average guy because they think that he will be more faithful than a handsome guy and will worship them more, plus they want to be the one who is more attractive in a relationship.
/r/seduction27/06/22 11:30 PM
1

Assume attraction...someone read Bacon's book, haha. Well, how you can attract if you don't believe in yourself? Most of the time, the right personality traits will top any good looking guys without desirable traits.
/r/seduction26/06/22 09:35 AM
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Don't put too much pressure on that. The goal of going out is to have fun. And then if you see a girl that you like, you chat with her. The thing is if you see a girl that you like, and you wait, and wait, even if you do approach then, it will be clumsy, and girls notice when someone is waiting cause he doesn't have the balls, instant turn off. You should apply a 3-second rule, because that way, your brain will not start with excuses why not to approach, and your approach will be more spontaneou…
/r/seduction25/06/22 11:57 AM
1

What's the point of that? If she doesn't plan to dump him aka replace him, and she's in love with him, you will be rejected. I'm sure that there are plenty of pretty single girls out there.
/r/seduction25/06/22 10:46 AM
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Dude, it all comes down to your perspective. If you feed your mind with things like - I am disappointed at myself, I am pu**y, this or that, you will fear even more. Why don't you think like this - I am going to socialize, because girls like to socialize, while talking, I will figure out if she is good enough for me. Do you see? You don't have to be rejected, and you will not be compatible with every girl, lmao. Maybe you will approach her and find her boring and shallow, are you rejected then? …
/r/seduction25/06/22 09:29 AM
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Well, party girls, especially if they party that often, unless REALLY in love with you, will cheat when they drink a couple of drinks more. That is just a fact, it's a matter of time. A party girl prefers a guy who will also be a party guy, if you aren't, and she goes with her friends often, then it's a matter of time until someone seduces her, and bang her (or more of them).
/r/seduction24/06/22 05:02 PM
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It is so annoying because most girls on dating apps are looking for a serious relationship, if you say something along the lines of what OP said, then they unmatch or ghost you. But let's get real. How the fuck can you know in advance if you want to be serious with that person or not? When you get to know that person better, then you can get a better picture if it will be something casual or serious, some common sense, lol.
/r/seduction24/06/22 04:48 PM
1

If 60K, then you're doomed, or move to a bigger city, lol.
/r/seduction24/06/22 01:45 AM
1

Yeah, they fucked up the algorithm from around July last year. I used to have a ton of matches, but now rarely have 6 or 7, lmao.
/r/seduction19/06/22 10:36 PM
1

If you leave a great impression in person, they will remember for sure.
/r/seduction19/06/22 10:30 PM
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Nah, it just means that I am not willing to settle down, have options, abundance mindset. Because of your question I could tell that you have a scarcity mindset. Not a waste, I can see her when I want, and then she will come.
/r/seduction16/06/22 01:12 PM
8

First what I notice is that you invested way more than her, aka her texts were shorter, and yours were longer and longer, which appears as too eager, and bad. Second, you didn't lead, you were asking too much is this fine, or this, etc. Girls don't want to decide, you decide, and say when. Nothing to do with waiting, you just screwed up what I mentioned, thus appearing weak. If she was actually busy but interested, there would be a counteroffer, but yeah, just a blow-off. When she asked will you…
/r/seduction16/06/22 12:52 PM
10

Size is maybe important to 5-10% of girls. If you brag about it, she will think that you are trying to hide the other shortcomings with that.
/r/seduction16/06/22 12:28 PM
35

Well, it doesn't have to necessarily mean that she is a hoe, maybe just that she likes you too much, and doesn't want to pretend, but is naughty and likes sex. It happened actually recently to me. I started chatting with a girl on a dating app, and started with normal questions, she was then immediately like, better to talk about my butt, don't you think, and ofc, I thought, Woah, what a hoe, who knows with who she is like that. So ok, I just followed what she wanted, cybersex, cause she was hor…
/r/seduction16/06/22 09:51 AM
1

Well, if you are skilled, it can work, but if not, you can mess it up, and then it would be awkward at work. Either way, even if it works, and then she dumps you, again it may be awkward, so yeah, dunno.
/r/seduction15/06/22 09:55 PM
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Exactly, as a man, especially if you have standards, you must do 1001 things in order to get a hottie. Why? Because she has so much validation and cocks thrown at her online, she doesn't need your approach in order to get what she wants, thus having so much power. So annoying and tiresome, because it all seems one-sided. And it is in some way. Approaching isn't anymore what it was before because of social networks for their ego pumping.
/r/seduction15/06/22 02:57 PM
0

By changing your mindsets and wrong beliefs. Why would you put her above you just because she's born like that? Lmao
/r/seduction15/06/22 01:43 PM
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/r/seduction15/06/22 11:49 AM
2

Lol, that is just a very small part. If you want to get a hottie, you also need to be charismatic, charming, to challenge her, etc.
/r/seduction15/06/22 09:12 AM
1

I've seen a lot of mature women like 42 yo are looking for a hook up (on dating apps) with guys from 18 to 28 yo, lol. Perverted milfs. 😄
/r/seduction15/06/22 09:03 AM
1

Now you know. ;)
/r/seduction15/06/22 12:30 AM
9

Oh wow, she truly confessed, while most girls cannot, she risked. Well, she mentioned you being charming, girls really like confident and charming guys.
/r/seduction15/06/22 12:00 AM
2

That was good, you used "I like" aka emotion, so basically you opened, and the girl returned by being open too, which is good. You weren't emotionally guarded, which is why the girl trusted you. :) In contrast, if you started with "you have a nice tattoo" that would be emotionally guarded, and a girl would be closed too, aka responded negatively.
/r/seduction14/06/22 11:50 PM
2

Intuition, lol.
/r/seduction14/06/22 10:53 PM
3

Awesome, keep it up. Most guys stop if they suddenly find one interested girl, which is a mistake, so yeah.
/r/seduction14/06/22 04:37 PM
5

Ah, that famous - I have a bf nonsense. Good for you though, nice to practice, and you feel good and alive by going often out of your comfort zone aka expanding it.
/r/seduction14/06/22 04:24 PM
1

Actually, whenever I am drinking coffee there, I never see guys hitting on her while she brings the drinks, most guys do not have the balls to make a move there, only at night while they are drunk, and not at cafe bars. Maybe in big cities, it is a different story, here it isn't. And if she doesn't go out that much and rarely encounters those confident guys that can make her feel different, she will be totally flattered if they make the right move. Every girl will appreciate being single or not …
/r/seduction14/06/22 02:21 PM
1

I personally would not bother with girls like those. They are a minority. But to each their own.
/r/seduction14/06/22 02:17 PM
2

Most girls develop feelings while having ONS, way often they want a relationship then, than a guy. They develop feelings, most of the time. Don't listen to what girls are saying, just observe what they DO. It is like when they say that they want a tall, dark, and handsome guy, yet in person, they reject him and opt for some average and shorter guy, with a bit of a belly too, so yeah.
/r/seduction14/06/22 02:01 PM
3

Nah, most girls/women no matter what they are saying, are open to starting something right away, so it can develop from casual to serious. And so many good long-term relationships started even with a hook-up. It is a bad strategy to be friends first, it is when you start by being neutral, which doesn't have sense. Or most women if they do not get a guy that they want, after being 30 or more, they choose some of their friends as a bf, mostly only then.
/r/seduction14/06/22 01:54 PM
0

Yeah, which is why there are so many success stories here, of men seducing women there, lmao.
/r/seduction14/06/22 01:24 PM
2

Awesome, you picked up the clues well.
/r/seduction14/06/22 01:23 PM
1

I don't seek their approval, and I love myself, work on myself nonstop, and know that I am of higher value than her. So when someone like that rejected you for who knows what reason, like working together, seeing someone, her insecurities, no matter what, it feels shitty, especially when you see later that person with someone worse than you. And yeah, you are right, those who can recognize and appreciate true values will want you forever. I mean, if a person is low-value, she will seek others wh…
/r/seduction14/06/22 01:22 PM
1

Yeah, definitely, the worst is living with regrets. No one regrets what they did, but what they could, but didn't.
/r/seduction14/06/22 01:17 PM
1

Yeah, those ones are unsuccessful and clueless, lol. I don't bother me a bit, cause I know that they are talking nonsense. Definitely, it is always better to approach, than to wonder what if. The problem is obstacles, and a friend also being interested in her, so he would text her also if he finds out her details, but yeah, I know that she flirted with me, so it shouldn't matter.
/r/seduction14/06/22 01:16 PM
1

Yeah, if they have urges, but it doesn't do it for me anymore, I mean, it's a shitty feeling when you are not that attracted, so I now skip those.
/r/seduction14/06/22 01:09 PM
1

Yeah, totally agree with that. Intuition usually helps in those situations, aka gut instinct, and is usually right. The worst is living with what if...
/r/seduction14/06/22 01:08 PM
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Hahaha, nope, bitch shield is girl screening out non-confident guys. That is how it works, otherwise, if she would be friendly towards anyone who approaches them, they would hang to her whole night, even if she doesn't want them. You obviously don't know how it all works.
/r/seduction14/06/22 12:53 PM
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Anthony doesn't know shit, I saw his material. His game sucks. Yes, because of so much validation online, they do not need anyone to approach them, they can have whoever they want. Before social networks and no validation, they were very friendly and open to approaching.
/r/seduction14/06/22 12:46 PM
5

That is what I am saying. BS.
/r/seduction14/06/22 12:44 PM
2

Nah, even if someone approached normally and directly, he would need to put up with a ton of shit tests in order for her to show her other side. I would rather skip that.
/r/seduction14/06/22 12:44 PM
1

Well, I go there with friends at around 6-7 pm, and we do not go there until the shift is over cause it is too late for us, lol. I would need to be there alone at almost 11 pm for that. It would seem stalkerish.
/r/seduction14/06/22 12:41 PM
0

I'm also tall and handsome, thus having high standards. And I've had a ton of matches on Tinder, girls approached me directly before, but when I approach them, rejection, why, because girls are insecure and shy, plus prefer average-looking men because they think they will worship them more, and are not players.
/r/seduction14/06/22 12:38 PM
19

Yeah, so many dating coaches are like, hotter girls are way easier to pick up because they are less approached, blah blah. Yeah right. I saw so many arrogant hot girls, even rolling their eyes from time to time while being in a bar, thinking how they are above everyone. So annoying and shallow.
/r/seduction14/06/22 12:23 PM
1

Exactly, social intelligence is important. For example, lightly flirting when she brings coffee, then finding out her name, adding her on Insta, and texting her there, should do the trick. But a friend would then add her too, and text her probably, hahah.
/r/seduction14/06/22 12:16 PM
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Woah, so many downvotes from insecure people that are not successful, yet so many success stories here of how men successfully seduced girls there, funny. Pity that there are so many insecure dudes/girls with limiting beliefs and wrong mindsets, lol.
/r/seduction14/06/22 12:08 PM
1

Yeah, I realized while going through her FB profile that she has a thing for tattooed guys, like, sleeve tattooed and all that. Not a coincidence because I saw three guys that were on pics with her, all like this, the same pattern. I do not have any tattoos.
/r/seduction14/06/22 02:18 AM
2

Woah, six sense, hahaha. Intuition plus body language can do wonders. xD
/r/seduction14/06/22 02:16 AM
1

Ah, nope, actually I was good with her coworkers, and they all said that she is weird, that they do not know anything about her, nor she talked with them for that one year almost at all, lol.
/r/seduction14/06/22 02:14 AM
1

Yeah, actually, I knew that anything after rejection is wrong, because girls only get more irritated by that, and yeah, in like 98% after rejection, I don't write anything, so yeah, that was wrong. If she wrote I am busy now, but I am free then if it is ok with you, that would be totally different. Well, mostly about work, because I guess, after rejection, it would be strange to start right away with some other stuff that we usually talked about, but yeah, she was then happened to be always near…
/r/seduction14/06/22 02:08 AM
3

Yeah, I can see how that line could work, smart. Most people just blend into the forgettable crowd because they just order what they want, and a girl goes into transaction mode, and that's it. She forgets about all those people, but not the ones that make her feel a bit different or special, plus she gets out of her typical transaction mode. Big refreshment for them. Yup, I could tell that you understand how it all works, I mean, all those examples are on point, girls absolutely love that kind o…
/r/seduction14/06/22 02:02 AM
1

Oh my, another successful story, congrats, lol. It feels amazing when we pull the right moves, doesn't it? So when a girl like this one here in the comment section says that girls aren't there to meet anyone, yeah right, girls can be seduced literally anywhere, yeah, you just acknowledge the obstacles, use social intelligence, and yeah, things may happen. So yeah, interesting how it all panned out from all that.
/r/seduction14/06/22 01:57 AM
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Nice, what an interesting story with a happy end. Yeah, sometimes you have to listen to your gut instinct, and just do what you feel is right at the moment. Ofc, sometimes it is worth the risk, I mean, we all make mistakes, so it's all fine. But damn, you run into her later, that is cool. Sometimes there are no coincidences in life, people just happen to appear all of sudden when we really want to see them, it happened to me a lot of times, lol. Cool that you've learned a lot through various exp…
/r/seduction14/06/22 01:53 AM
2

That was a cool and interesting story. Damn, pity that it didn't work, but hey, awesome how you found out about her name and then were able to find her, add her and all that, but yeah, it's tricky, most waitresses are taken. And yeah, I know some girls that don't have any pics with their bf on Insta, yet they have on their stories, lmao. Well yeah, it's tricky cause there are two other male co-workers of hers, so yeah, maybe just some light flirting whenever she brings coffee, and then to take i…
/r/seduction14/06/22 01:45 AM
0

Actually, I did flirt a bit when she bring coffee to me and my friends, she blushed a bit. On the other hand, body language and girl facing you can tell you sometimes way more than words. Ofc, most guys are clueless asf about that.
/r/seduction14/06/22 01:31 AM
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Well, don't know if I would want to lose that place, plus mostly dudes that work with her are sitting next to her while she's not serving, so yeah, hardly any time, maybe for light flirting, lol. But anyway, people don't only meet each other in school/uni/online/bar/club via friends. People can meet in many different circumstances, and start a relationship, or just flirt, and then who knows what, so yeah. Anything is possible really. I mean, you are in an illusion if you think that no one seduce…
/r/seduction14/06/22 01:27 AM
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Then why is she flirting? Or too many coincidences, and me imagining things, lmao.
/r/seduction14/06/22 01:20 AM
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Lmao, some girls want to work as a waitress in order to meet someone, because they are shy, etc. On the other hand, if she doesn't go out to any places that I am going in, there is no other way to meet her, so lol.
/r/seduction14/06/22 01:18 AM
3

Not exactly any woman, but any cute/pretty/hot woman. Big difference. I've rejected plenty of average girls who took the initiative.
/r/seduction14/06/22 12:56 AM
2

Well, if you were neutral with her at work, then - I have a boyfriend was probably an excuse. Never mind, good that you tried. I also crushed on a girl at previous work, and asked her out via FB, because it was impossible to do so at work, we were very rarely alone, and not more than a couple of minutes, and I got the - I don't have time for that excuse. If it wasn't an excuse, there would be a counteroffer. However, my ego didn't take that answer well, so I ignored her, and when she asked me an…
/r/seduction14/06/22 12:13 AM
0

Well, if not them, then you can see a ton of average dudes with hot girls, more often than a handsome tall guy with a hottie.
/r/seduction13/06/22 08:21 PM
0

Hahaha, dude, I know plenty of tall and good-looking guys who get rejected and wonder why. And I also saw many fat, short and bald dudes with hotties taller than them, and no, they are not wealthy. So if it makes it easier for you, keep making excuses for lack of results. I am tall and handsome, fit, been approached by the girls, but when I approached, I got rejected, and still do from time to time.
/r/seduction13/06/22 04:23 PM
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This.
/r/seduction13/06/22 10:42 AM
2

Probably. A lot of girls, especially pretty ones, are full of insecurity. And sometimes they want an average to ugly guy who will worship them more, and they want to be the one who looks better in the relationship, lmao. Then when I leave, they look at me again, stupid bitches. xD
/r/seduction12/06/22 11:08 PM
2

Ofc I am, not beating around the bush. I know how to flirt, how sparking of attraction works, how to be a challenge, and all that.
/r/seduction12/06/22 10:42 PM
3

Cause it doesn't happen often, I want a wider choice, which is why I approach.
/r/seduction12/06/22 09:39 PM
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Yeah, they say it's all about skill, looks, and height. I'm 6'3" and handsome, fit, which is why girls approached me a lot of times, even cute ones, but when I approach directly and confidently, girls just behave indifferently. I'm like, wtf, I'm even smart, working on myself non-stop, not neutral or beta, know about body language, personality traits, and all that, yet still, it is either she's taken, or behave cold, lmao. Most of those girls appear shallow and insecure. Bloody annoying.
/r/seduction12/06/22 08:24 PM
1

Exactly what I wrote about. All pretty/hot girls are just using Tinder to promote their IG and from there Onlyfans, awful. They are using the situation that men are attracted to hot looks. Annoying, apps are waste of time.
/r/seduction12/06/22 03:59 PM
3

Girls do this stuff, but when they dump their bf, he can often upload those vids and pics online as a result of revenge, and girls do not think about that, lol.
/r/seduction12/06/22 02:30 PM
3

From what strategy? If a girl is single and easy-going, why not, if she's a good communicator, and confident, and you are direct and easy-going, yeah, it can work for sure.
/r/seduction12/06/22 02:26 PM
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Yeah, because of all social networks and online apps for an ego boost, they can behave as self-sufficient. Women do not appreciate approaching these days like before. Some are also just insecure, shy, bad communicators, etc.
/r/seduction12/06/22 02:22 PM
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Yeah, approaching in bars sucks. Most girls are taken or behave as ice queens. They even look at you, you approach them, they reject you, and when you leave, they look at you again. Because of all online ego boosts and social networks, they behave as self-sufficient. Annoying.
/r/seduction12/06/22 02:15 PM
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Nope, if you have seducing skills, girls will appreciate then that you are tall, but if you don't have skills or desirable personality traits you will end up being rejected.
/r/seduction12/06/22 12:37 PM
1

Exactly, I saw so many shorter guys dating tall hotties. And no, it's not because of money, lmao.
/r/seduction12/06/22 09:57 AM
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Height doesn't mean shit. If you don't have the skill to attract women, you can be 6'3" yet always be rejected. Skill wins over height any day.
/r/seduction12/06/22 09:54 AM
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Not true at all. There are plenty of good-looking tall men, that are regularly rejected by the girls. Even model-type of guys. On the other side, you can see often fat or bald, short guys with stunners. And no, not all of them are rich, those are just excuses of guys with no skill and bad mindsets. Confidence plus desirable personality traits will top any good-looking and tall guy with no skills. Why do you think a girl will match with a guy online, and then in person she would be like, sorry, n…
/r/seduction11/06/22 03:03 PM
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Yeah, it is really challenging tho to be often happy, in today's time, but yeah, when you are, it makes everything so much easier.
/r/seduction11/06/22 02:59 PM
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Exactly, and also because most people feel miserable, so they are attracted to positive energy/something different with a higher value than them, and ofc, as you said, it implies that you are successful in life, which is attractive.
/r/seduction11/06/22 11:46 AM
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Yeah, actually, I approached those two girls and focused on the other one. Then while I was talking firstly with both, then focused on the other girl, the first one was approached by a guy whose table was next to theirs, he whispered something to her, she started smiling, and after a minute, they were kissing, and I was like, wtf. Maybe they know each other, maybe don't, but it was like, woah, that was fast. Usually going str8 for the kill doesn't work unless you are really advanced.
/r/seduction11/06/22 11:06 AM
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Exactly. I have a friend that always has a deadly serious expression on his face, even when he approaches a girl. He doesn't believe in-game, he thinks that for females the attraction works the same as for men. Basically, he is ignorant. Ofc, he only receives rejections. Some people will never learn because of wrong beliefs and mindsets, plus refusing to accept reality.
/r/seduction11/06/22 11:01 AM
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I am happy by myself, with or without a girl. I said, when it comes to approaching, I only count results, and not rejections, or sweet conversations that lead to nothing. That doesn't make me happy. I commented on OP that said how his rejection feels like a billion bucks.
/r/seduction09/06/22 09:50 PM
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You never ask for a kiss, girls want to feel your confidence and dominance, and not lack of balls by you being unsure and asking for permission, lmao.
/r/seduction09/06/22 02:20 PM
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This. I mean, you cannot be happy if you haven't got a girl. Some will say like, be happy if you two had positive interaction, she smiled, yeah, but then she rejected you and the other guy is banging her, so yeah, for me, accomplishment is only if I seduced a girl and she wants me sexually. Everything else is a waste.
/r/seduction09/06/22 01:20 PM
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By staying calm, smiling, and continuing with seducing, until she drops her guard.
/r/seduction09/06/22 10:38 AM
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Well yeah, good thing that you approached, now you know that when a girl is not in the mood, don't flirt or waste time, just wish her a good night and that's it because shit happens. It is hard to practice with those girls when they are closed off. But yeah, good thing that you approached, what is important is that you do not take long breaks now in a meanwhile until you approach again. Some girls that are looking for a more confident guy will even roll their eyes when you approach to test your …
/r/seduction09/06/22 12:41 AM
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Yeah, that is smart, cause hottie got used to getting hit way more often than her friends, so if you chat to her two friends (or one) and ignore her, she will start to wonder what is happening, especially if those girls are enjoying your company, so the hottie will start talking to you and put more effort, she will feel less desirable at that moment, lol.
/r/seduction09/06/22 12:36 AM
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Most girls/women are insecure, even being so attractive, and in their own words, they prefer uglier guys, cause then she will not worry if he will cheat on her, plus he would worship her more, etc. It comes down to the insecurity of those women. And ofc, they want to be in the center of attention, and not him.
/r/seduction08/06/22 07:21 PM
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Friend zone just means that the guy doesn't know how to flirt properly (or at all), he lacks balls or knowledge (even both), and is way too neutral around girls he likes. Learn how to flirt, if she flirts back, kiss her, and that's it.
/r/seduction08/06/22 03:19 PM
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Ofc, they can by observing your body language, thus determining if you are confident and successful with girls or not.
/r/seduction08/06/22 12:00 PM
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A lot of truth in this post, BUT, getting laid doesn't mean shit. If you bang girls that are 3-6, you do not need any skill for that, nor those people have skills, otherwise they would be banging hotties. It's quality over quantity. Then you have people living in villages or a very small town, so you do not have options there (if you're picky), unless you move to a bigger city. A lot of factors can come into play. But yeah, some people do live in a bigger city, just learn and cannot apply, yet c…
/r/seduction08/06/22 10:33 AM
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Men, what I see on Tinder is more and more hot girls using it to promote their IG, so they can advertise their OF account there. They are using men who are thinking with a lower head.
/r/seduction07/06/22 08:53 PM
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Exactly, I talked about that these days. Before social networks and smartphones, chicks were even approaching guys, they approached me a lot of times. They were even direct and aggressive, throwing a lot of signs. Since social networks, nothing, behave self-sufficient. So when you approach, it all seems one-sided because they have thousands of options.
/r/seduction07/06/22 05:36 PM
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Only low-value girls like that.
/r/seduction07/06/22 03:50 PM
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Hahah, yeah, you are right. I've had one girl who was looking for an LTR ask me, why guys approach 4-5 girls, instead of just 1? Why do they need more? I am like, are you fucking serious, lmao. And you are right, it is so damn annoying when like 80% of the chicks that we like have a bf. So many times I would approach, it would seem well, and then she mentions bf, but doesn't fake it, cause he suddenly appears. It is easy for hot girls, they have so many options online, they cannot count them all…
/r/seduction07/06/22 02:53 PM
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Exactly. This man knows what he talks about. No excuses. Don't be like - I need more money, I need more muscles, this or that, stop excuses, take more action, and just make it happen!
/r/seduction03/06/22 11:14 AM
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You're obviously clueless and not successful with girls, I can tell. That's how it works mate, most successful seducers advise the same. Girl flirts back, you then kiss her, and it's a sexual assault, hahaha. Oh boi, you need to learn a lot if you don't want to die like a virgin.
/r/seduction03/06/22 10:13 AM
1

You must start with fundamentals, learn how the game works, and work on yourself and your self-confidence first. You also need to work on your mindsets.
/r/seduction03/06/22 10:12 AM
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Well, you are giving up soon. Most girls are insecure and shy when you first approach them, so you must first warm them up in order for them to open up. If she is confident and hot, then ofc she will test you anyway, like, stopping to contribute that much and all that. Why? Because they know that most guys will crumble under pressure and give up, they filter them out. That is because they want a truly confident guy, not the one faking confidence.
/r/seduction02/06/22 10:02 PM
2

Well, if you can hardly approach, then you need to work on your confidence first, mindsets, and all that. I know it sounds cliche, but it's true. Practice approaching, set little goals first, like, today I will approach five women, no matter if not so attractive, just to ask something, or to say hi, then to 10, then to attractive girls, until you feel comfortable. After that, you practice how to be more charming, charismatic, etc.
/r/seduction02/06/22 09:25 PM
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Then you are blind, I saw a lot of hotties with ugly guys, and rarely some good-looking guys with hotties. Plus, a lot of hot girls actually prefer less handsome guys because they are insecure in themself, and think that a less ugly guy will worship them more, and be more faithful. You obviously don't have a clue. Good looks don't mean shit if you don't have a game. So many girls liked some guy because of his looks, yet when he started talking and approached, they were disappointed and not attra…
/r/seduction02/06/22 07:21 PM
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You do not ask girls for a kiss or for any kind of permission, you flirt with her (learn how to do that), and then when you feel that the moment is right, aka if she flirts back, you just kiss her. As simple as that. There are a lot of books and videos about fundamentals and advanced stuff, so read/watch, learn, apply, practice.
/r/seduction02/06/22 06:22 PM
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The gym is not important for girls, only skills. Fat and a bald dude with skills will win always when compared to a good-looking guy, that is well built but with no skills. Confidence is when you believe in yourself and your skills, you are not insecure and too nice, you are ballsy with chicks, masculine, not some neutral nice guy like most that are insecure.
/r/seduction02/06/22 04:18 PM
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Start working on your confidence and personality traits like charisma, charm, etc. and fundamentals that attract women. Then you need to approach a lot in order to make it automatic for you, cause knowledge is only power when used, otherwise it's a waste.
/r/seduction02/06/22 04:11 PM
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Start approaching and working on yourself and your skills. No woman will fall in your lap just because of your looks. Women chase only celebrities, and if you aren't a celebrity, then you need to approach and make it happen if you want something. Yeah, some may approach you once in a blue moon (usually not the ones that you want), but I guess that you don't want that, but rather to have a choice with women. Hot girls will never approach first, they don't need to, nor it's up to them to approach.
/r/seduction02/06/22 03:55 PM
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I never said that any PUA is a real man.
/r/seduction02/06/22 02:37 PM
1

Exactly that. If we added each other on FB or Insta, after their response, I just remove them from there and delete our chat. If we exchanged numbers, I do not delete numbers, just in case to know if they ever text first, who are they.
/r/seduction02/06/22 02:35 PM
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I am not talking about naturals who can get 8s, 9s, and 10s easily, and those are certainly not a majority. Ofc that it is important, imagine that in a bar, all of them are naturals and skilled, approaching often, you would have way more competition and less choice. But when most guys are clueless in their approach and when you approach, girl will feel something different and rare, because they crave for a real man, thus will be desperate to get you. The same thing when there is only one hottie …
/r/seduction02/06/22 11:29 AM
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Ofc that it does work. Guys who are just focused on getting girls but lack their purpose in life, will be focused on one specific girl, and rarely will approach, thus giving so much significance to any girl, will live in a scarcity mindset, appear desperate, and face so many rejections cause girls can sense that a guy doesn't have his shit together, doesn't have options, so she doesn't want to do him a favor by being with him, because that is not how it works. On the other hand, when you work on…
/r/seduction02/06/22 11:17 AM
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Yeah, actually I saw that in a bar. Guy approached, he was an ordinary guy, even fat, but kinda tall. Girls were acting aloof at first, disinterested, usually just a test, then he backed off, and observed them, came back after 10 mins or so, again talked, they seemed this time a bit warmer to his approach, then he backed off a bit again, then he came back again, they were interested in him, and at the end, all of them went in a cab, maybe for a threesome or something. xD
/r/seduction02/06/22 10:49 AM
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They come back out of boredom, or when they need an ego boost back, or when they run out of options, lol. If a person sees you as a prize and high-value person, no way that she will leave you for months, believe me.
/r/seduction02/06/22 10:42 AM
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Yeah, I only give one chance to any girl. I know that I'm a prize, so if she rejects me, no matter if taken at the time, or what, I'm not interested anymore in that person. There are so many girls on this planet, I don't give a fuck about some specific one that cannot recognize my worth. I don't deal with maybe's, I don't know, we'll see, etc...I just remove them right away, and I do not respond anything to that. I just see them as insecure, low-value people that I am not interested in anyway. W…
/r/seduction02/06/22 10:30 AM
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Exactly! Woman want to feel lucky that you picked her, out of so many options that you have, and they can sense if you have options. But, if you don't have options, and you are desperate to get her, which shows, ofc that she doesn't want to do you a favor by being with you, lmao.
/r/seduction01/06/22 05:43 PM
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Yeah, I agree. 100k to 500k is the sweet spot cause not so expensive and big, yet plenty of chicks also. Well yeah, yes I did, it's just that sometimes I wonder what type of life I would live if I was in a bigger city with bigger opportunities, but yeah. Thanks man!
/r/seduction31/05/22 06:22 PM
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Yes, everything sucks in a smaller city. Most PUA says that the bare minimum is a city of 100K of people, but 60 something is awful. No metro here, nothing. You have like 3-5 places that are full for going out and that's it. So shitty. Ofc, it is very limited for a job also. My brother lives in a capital city, like 2 mils of people, and wow, when I visit him, I am amazed how many girls you can see all over the place, even on working days. But it is expensive to live in a big city, you would need…
/r/seduction31/05/22 05:03 PM
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Well, that's cool, I am constantly working on myself also. Do you live in a smaller or bigger city? As I've said, in a smaller city, you do not have that much of a choice, and ofc if you have less of something, it will probably be taken or in big demand, which sucks.
/r/seduction31/05/22 04:23 PM
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Don't make her a priority or put her on a pedestal, if you do that, you are done, because your purpose should be number 1, and girls want it that way too Never believe in what they say, always pay attention to what they do. For example, they all like tall and handsome guys, yet finish with some fat and bald dude, reason being, it's mostly about confidence If you invite her on a date via text, and she's like - I am busy, Maybe, We'll see, etc, just run away from that girl. Don't bother to reply t…
/r/seduction31/05/22 12:45 PM
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Yeah, with molly you have balls of steel, supreme confidence, and basically, you approach when you spot what you like, without any insecure thoughts going through your head, all that is blocked basically, no anxiety, an awesome feeling. Can be good for people to break through because you realize how you can be without it also. But only good for a start, a temporary fix, not for something to rely on or become addicted to. Maybe just half of the pill and that's it. No harm in such a small dose, bu…
/r/seduction28/05/22 11:33 AM
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That is cool because, via day, most girls will be attracted cause of displayed confidence being so direct, and it takes more balls compared to night game where most people are drunk, BUT, I don't think that it is necessary to start with "excuse me" and being kinda apologetic, even tho your intention is just a casual way of saying HI, but most experienced people in that field do not recommend that, you say hi/hello, and then the rest.
/r/seduction28/05/22 11:28 AM
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Wrong...not many dudes approach, and even if they do, they are doing it in a wrong way, or they are usually drunk cause they have no balls...I wouldn't say that many people are good at picking up women.
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