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| 3 | Relapsed and spiraling out of controlWomen are human, and sometimes humans suck. TRP shouldn’t be a damning factor for all men, because most men aren’t like that. Women are exactly the same; there are a few toxic women out there who act entitled, but they are extreme outliers. I know maybe 1 woman like that in real life, and she isn’t even that bad. I have suspicions that some of those people are trolls from the manosphere, just because it sounds like hatebait written by people who don’t know any women. | /r/ExRedPill | 07/10/19 11:49 AM |
| 7 | Why I quit the Red Pill Reddit ForumThank you for sharing. We are very glad to have you. I liked some of the ideas and structure for me and my partner, but the majority of TRP was bullshit. Their "truths" seem to be nothing more than confirmation bias. Anyway, there are lots of better resources for improving the way you interact with people! Good for you for realizing that TRP was unhealthy. | /r/ExRedPill | 21/06/15 06:39 AM |
| 1 | Blue Pill, why do you think it's acceptable for men to have all the responsibility to initiate and maintain a relationship AND for women to have much higher standards than men?So having any standards period means that a woman has "much higher standards"?? Like, what exactly is your point? Literally any man can smell good. Any. Man. My fiancé is less attractive than me and is not rich, not high powered, he's kinda skinny, isn't tall, he's not any of the things you people say "women like". So finding my fiancé attractive at all because of the combination of his personality, style, and physical appearance is some how hypocritical? I legitimately have no idea what you're … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/15 01:00 AM |
| 1 | Blue Pill, why do you think it's acceptable for men to have all the responsibility to initiate and maintain a relationship AND for women to have much higher standards than men?I initiated and did not have much higher standards than the ones I hold for myself. That is the direct opposite of point made in the op. But I was talking directly to you, who said "see you said you find your fiancé attractive therefore you're a lying hypocrite". To which I responded "If she is equally or more attractive than her partner, how is that HOLDING MUCH HIGHER STANDARDS?" Which is the exact point in the OP. Goddamn, for people who say y'all are the most logical people on the planet you… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/15 03:23 PM |
| 3 | BP: Can you be Red Pill without being an abusive asshole?Society doesn't encourage that, and no, not every conversation has to address every aspect of every relationship in the world. It is totally logical to talk about one issue (the red pill) without talking about all other emotional abuse that exists. You can talk about one subject. Stop deflecting and address the actual points. If you have a real argument, make it. Otherwise you need to acquiesce to the fact that trp supports and advises people to emotionally abuse their partner. I do not support … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/15 09:18 PM |
| 3 | BP: Can you be Red Pill without being an abusive asshole?Well no one ever said all people can't be capable of emotional abuse, that's a total strawman. It's a bullshit argument because I was speaking directly about what trp teaches, not about what men "have in their arsenal". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/15 08:34 PM |
| 7 | Is shaming women for their bodily appearance (overweight or underweight) constructive? Why or why not?I'm not telling you to help them. It just doesn't make any sense to harm them if it has no benefit for you, them, or society. Especially because your original reasoning for fat shaming was because of the societal "cost" of being fat. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/15 06:16 AM |
| 7 | Is shaming women for their bodily appearance (overweight or underweight) constructive? Why or why not?My point is that they won't. You doing this has no societal benefit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/15 05:50 AM |
| 3 | BP: Can you be Red Pill without being an abusive asshole?Dread game is emotional abuse. Purposefully flirting with other people in order to make your partner insecure and dependent on you, or to make them feel like they have less worth, or to make them scared for your relationship is textbook emotional abuse. Many things that are regularly talked about on the red pill are emotionally abusive. Ignoring your partner if she does or says something you don't like? That's emotional abuse. It's manipulative and damages the self-worth of your partner and your… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/15 05:49 AM |
| 2 | BP: Can you be Red Pill without being an abusive asshole?I would go off the majority of popular posts and popular positions, which seem to be abusive, manipulative, dehumanizing, as sexist. It's not just 10% of the stated ideals. It's the overall beliefs of the community as well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/15 05:43 AM |
| 8 | BP: Can you be Red Pill without being an abusive asshole?That's how a lot of blue pillers feel. It's the fact that all of these human faults suddenly become all on women or mostly on women, which is bullshit. Dehumanizing women and saying they're lesser is fucked up. And while many people in RP may not feel that way, many very popular posts do say that and so that's what ends up representing the sub. In another thread someone said the words of a woman don't matter because all women are inherent liars. Like, that shit is fucked. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/15 05:40 AM |
| 6 | Is shaming women for their bodily appearance (overweight or underweight) constructive? Why or why not?Well you're making it worse. Studies show that fat shaming causes people to gain weight, not lose any. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/15 05:32 AM |
| 3 | Is shaming women for their bodily appearance (overweight or underweight) constructive? Why or why not?http://m.livescience.com/47787-fat-shaming-weight-gain.html Fat shaming causes weight gain. So that does more damage than good. Focusing on people moving more and eating less, rather than on weight loss itself, would help a lot of people. As it stands, people lack self-worth and feel like they don't deserve to feel good, that it could never happen. If people would just leave others alone and stop treating them like fucking pariahs I think a lot more people would feel comfortable enough to get ou… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/15 05:30 AM |
| 3 | Blue Pill, why do you think it's acceptable for men to have all the responsibility to initiate and maintain a relationship AND for women to have much higher standards than men?Thank you! I'm hoping it can happen soon. At the moment I'm just crossing my fingers that my tests come back with me being cancer-free. And yes! My fiancé is super passionate about music. It's wonderful! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/15 05:21 AM |
| 2 | Is shaming women for their bodily appearance (overweight or underweight) constructive? Why or why not?Studies show that fat shaming causes people to stay fat, and even to gain more weight. Emotional abuse almost never leads to a healthy outcome. I believe that treating people like human beings regardless of their looks can help them gain the self-worth to health their relationship with food (or whatever) and feel worthy enough to be happy and healthy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/15 05:18 AM |
| 5 | Blue Pill, why do you think it's acceptable for men to have all the responsibility to initiate and maintain a relationship AND for women to have much higher standards than men?If she is also attractive, and her partner is around equally attractive, how is that hypocritical? She never said she was looking for Leonardo DiCaprio. She simply said "I do find attraction important to a degree". You're not making any logical sense. I find my fiancé attractive. He's no model, he's not buff, he's not taller than average. But I'm attracted to him, partly because of his personality, partly because he dresses well and smells good, and partly because he's nice looking. But he and o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/15 05:10 AM |
| 3 | Blue Pill, why do you think it's acceptable for men to have all the responsibility to initiate and maintain a relationship AND for women to have much higher standards than men?Maybe your beliefs are coloring how you approach and treat women. Believe it or not, women can tell when you think less of them. We can tell when you have a chip on your shoulder and a bitter outlook. I take care of myself. My partner takes care of himself. He's certainly not buff because I don't really value physical stuff. I've been told that I date "below my class" on occasion, but that's because I put more weight on how compatible we are. That means finding someone relatively smart and somew… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/15 05:03 AM |
| 4 | Blue Pill, why do you think it's acceptable for men to have all the responsibility to initiate and maintain a relationship AND for women to have much higher standards than men?Almost in the same situation here! I'm currently the breadwinner and he's a student. I'm also sick, so when he has his good job after university graduation he said he would like me to reduce my hours so my stress level is lower. But in that case I would still be adding value by taking time to clean more and cook more/prepare lunches and take those responsibilities off his plate so he can focus on work. But that's just what works for us, because working 40+ hours is extremely hard on my disabled … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/15 04:52 AM |
| 4 | Blue Pill, why do you think it's acceptable for men to have all the responsibility to initiate and maintain a relationship AND for women to have much higher standards than men?What the fuck dude? You're sick in the head. You need to unplug for a while and go treat women like humans because you're so full of shit and I don't even think you realize it. My fiancé is great, and we have an extremely healthy relationship. In the beginning I was drawn to him because he was respectful, funny, kind, and felt safe to me; I even asked HIM out the first time and paid for that date (and half or more since). While he is attractive, he's certainly not a model. He's not super buff or… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/15 04:31 AM |
| 7 | Deconstructing the Red Pill dogma.Yeah, it's hard to compare a smaller country with completely different societal structure to one like the US (which is where I am, so it may be different for you). But I agree that it should be a lot more equal, regardless. A lot of the problem seems to be the attitude of "this is what sucks for men, so it should suck equally for women" when really it would be a lot more productive to fight for positive changes for men. Women have found that this is the best way to get their rights is to ask for… | /r/ExRedPill | 09/10/14 06:15 PM |
| 9 | Deconstructing the Red Pill dogma.Hi friend! I'm going to try to hit some alternative points. Male disposability: the flip side is being seen as so weak or incompetent that you aren't even allowed to fight if you want to. The two major pushes for women being on the front lines have been BY WOMEN and were rejected by male politicians. (Just google, you will see that the vast majority of pushes for women in the army have been by women's rights groups and by female politicians.) What we can't ignore is that most women don't have th… | /r/ExRedPill | 09/10/14 01:12 AM |
| 6 | Just threw up TRP? Read Models by Mark Manson.This is an amazing post! Thank you so much for the resources for everyone. | /r/ExRedPill | 25/07/14 03:49 PM |
| 2 | Fighting Hate with Love?A lot of the emotional support that comes with having a girlfriend with a physical disability would be considered "shit testing" by Redpillers. I dated a red pill sort of guy for a very short amount of time, and "supportive" is not how I would categorize our relationship. It was all games and power plays from him. My current boyfriend does a lot of stuff that could be considered "beta" by red pill guys. Not actually things that are weak behavior, but that subreddit would see it as such. He willi… | /r/ExRedPill | 24/06/14 04:22 AM |
| 3 | Fighting Hate with Love?I'm in a super happy relationship with someone who doesn't consider me to be his inferior servant child. Last night, he got up to get me an ice pack and make me tea because I'm sick. Yesterday, he went to the store to get me soup and to pick up some basic groceries...and when he got back he realized he forgot the soup. So he went back and got me soup, even though I was like "I have other stuff I can eat, it's fine!" My boyfriend is amazing. I have a really hard illness to deal with, and he is al… | /r/ExRedPill | 15/06/14 04:33 PM |
| 8 | What turned me off the red pillYay! Congrats to you. I hope you're able to have a happy, healthy relationship some day. It's hard to defeat the brainwashing, so please feel free to come here and check in if you need. | /r/ExRedPill | 15/06/14 04:26 PM |
| 1 | I was a former redpiller, AMAOhhhhh haha my bad. I was like "what the hell?" | /r/ExRedPill | 29/05/14 12:03 AM |
| 2 | I was a former redpiller, AMA"Teen angst and women never mixes well" is what I meant. It's condescending towards women particularly, and you are kinda using it to justify saying all girls in high school were party animals? But that totally leaves out the other half of the school. See what I mean? And biases are powerful because past experiences influence your future beliefs/attitudes/actions, and bias colors your past experiences. | /r/ExRedPill | 28/05/14 11:23 PM |
| 2 | I was a former redpiller, AMAAh, okay! I wasn't trying to be offensive, by the way. I don't know you or your mother. :) She might have been scared that you were negative towards women or disliked her or something. Idk! I'm glad your relationship is better. | /r/ExRedPill | 28/05/14 10:57 PM |
| 1 | I was a former redpiller, AMADoes teen angst and men mix well? Sorry, that sentence of yours sounded a little offensive. I went to school in the suburbs and yeah, a lot of people partied. But there were plenty of women who didn't that were attractive and nice. The thing I've actually mentioned to TRP guys before is that they tend to look at the kind of girls that perpetuate their beliefs and say, "Hey, look, they're all like that!" while blatantly ignoring the majority that are like, "Uh, hello, we are not." It's understand… | /r/ExRedPill | 28/05/14 09:38 PM |
| 1 | I was a former redpiller, AMAI know I didn't drink until college, and even then it was mild drinking. Also, I didn't smoke until I got a medical card for my really painful health condition. T_T | /r/ExRedPill | 28/05/14 09:35 PM |
| 2 | I was a former redpiller, AMAIs it because she was just worried about you, or maybe scared of or for you? | /r/ExRedPill | 28/05/14 09:14 PM |
| 0 | Young males are reluctant to argue for pro-male positions because they have learned they will be dismissed as malignant, simply because they are pro-male.Have you never used the snipping tool? It literally cuts out the section, and has a highlighter right in the window...it took less than 30 seconds of effort. | /r/MensRights | 28/03/14 02:03 AM |
| 6 | Young males are reluctant to argue for pro-male positions because they have learned they will be dismissed as malignant, simply because they are pro-male.It took like one click. It's because every time I see that guy (he has a memorable name...) he's bitching about SRS. Every.damn.time. I just looked, because I was curious, and sure enough, the first page had six out of eight comments about SRS. That's hardly "searching through". I didn't even click to the next damn page. | /r/MensRights | 27/03/14 10:23 PM |
| 7 | Young males are reluctant to argue for pro-male positions because they have learned they will be dismissed as malignant, simply because they are pro-male.I swear to God, this is all you ever say. Like, how obsessed are you? | /r/MensRights | 27/03/14 07:33 PM |
| 1 | Feminism: "Why do people think we hate men?"Actually, I went in convinced that child support was necessary, and came out not only thinking that maybe opting-out of financial and legal obligations is not only possible but is probably the fairest thing to do. So... Nobody is going to change their mind about that sort of issue after reading one shitty article and seeing a couple of angry comments. It takes discussion, which means both people share their views. I don't subscribe to any ideologies. You're talking like you know me when you blat… | /r/MensRights | 21/11/13 10:20 PM |
| 1 | No, child support can’t be a choiceIt's the name for a society that follows "Traditional Gender Roles" (man leads and provides, women have babies and keep a home). At the moment, we are starting to move away from it, but the core ideas still remain for many people. It's not something men are actively causing. I don't believe in that idea at all. It's biology, you're completely right! But the fact is, biology led us to a patriarchy. At least until our technological and social evolution allowed us to start moving away from traditio… | /r/MensRights | 21/11/13 05:50 PM |
| 1 | Feminism: "Why do people think we hate men?"Thank you for the advice! I've been trying to repeat that every so often, but I'm getting so many damn responses it's hard to keep up haha. :) At this point I was really frustrated by the comments in the threads I looked at. There are some really nasty things being said and it's sad. It's discouraging. Like, why should I try here when it seems like half the subscribers hate women or something? I'm sure that's not true and that some are just blowing off steam. But it's pretty sad for me. | /r/MensRights | 21/11/13 05:35 PM |
| 1 | No, child support can’t be a choiceThat's so horrible! I'm...well, not shocked, but really frustrated that that isn't more widely known. We really need to be dealing with that, starting with childhood. Teaching children healthy coping mechanisms and letting boys know it's okay to seek help and be vulnerable. After that, we need safe places for abused men and more aid for men who are struggling financially. There really are very few groups for men who need support. I know this isn't the same, but I have a disease where the suicide… | /r/MensRights | 21/11/13 05:21 PM |
| 1 | No, child support can’t be a choiceI already said that I would personally choose an abortion in that case, but I want kids in the next 5-10 years and I'm in a stable relationship. Also, I already said elsewhere that I understand your guys' points more now than I did before and believe that if legislators are able to figure out a way to phrase the law without fallout on taxpayers, I would support it. I said that at like 6 pm yesterday. Am I supposed to delete all my previous comments or something? | /r/MensRights | 21/11/13 04:59 PM |
| 0 | No, child support can’t be a choiceIt's 155% more likely than the average woman. What is your source for that being higher or lower than men? (Honestly curious, I have no idea.) And frankly, I posted this in response to someone saying it has no mental or emotional effect on a woman. It was to demonstrate that yes, yes it does. | /r/MensRights | 21/11/13 04:47 PM |
| 1 | No, child support can’t be a choiceNo, I would personally abort at this point in my life. I was speaking to the adoption vs keep baby options. I've known so many people who were completely fucked over by the foster care system and I don't know if I could ever let a piece of myself go into the world with no protection or anyone to watch over them. What if my baby ends up with an abusive family? What if he or she is shuffled from home to home with no real family? It's just a terrifying and saddening prospect. | /r/MensRights | 21/11/13 04:35 PM |
| 1 | Feminism: "Why do people think we hate men?"I don't even subscribe to r/feminism. I don't think I've ever even been there. My opinions are different than yours, but I was here in order to understand you guys more. It was an opportunity to change someone's mind. Some of you took that opportunity. I don't care about karma, it just really pisses me off when a comment I spent time typing to respond to someone who actively asked my opinion is suddenly so far in the negatives that it can't be seen. I was not able to respond to comments without … | /r/MensRights | 21/11/13 04:01 PM |
| 0 | Feminism: "Why do people think we hate men?"I tend to use them interchangeably because, as the link said, patriarchy just means a system where men are in positions of power and women aren't. That has become traditional as far as gender roles go. As far as I've seen, at least. I think I'm leaving this sub because I'm kind of tired of getting insulting messages and a flood of downvotes every time I respond. It's frustrating to learn about something when every time you talk someone tries to shut you up. It's also annoying that the downvotes … | /r/MensRights | 21/11/13 09:29 AM |
| 0 | Feminism: "Why do people think we hate men?"/r/egalitarian seems to do just fine, tbh. That's the best of both worlds. Both sides think their problems are larger than the other's and it just creates issues for both genders. This world fucks everyone over. Men are screwed in so many different ways. But so are women. That doesn't make men's problems any less important. It also doesn't make women's issues any less important. I don't really talk to Internet feminists because I think they are extremely radical. I have friends who are "normal" … | /r/MensRights | 21/11/13 09:18 AM |
| 1 | No, child support can’t be a choiceHere's one from two years ago saying that women face an 81% increase in mental health risk. http://m.cbsnews.com/blogsstorysynopsis.rbml?feed_id=71&catid=20100587&videofeed=null Here's another one. Women who had an abortion were 34 percent more likely to develop an anxiety disorder, 37 percent more likely to experience depression, 110 percent more likely to abuse alcohol, 155 percent more likely to commit suicide, and 220 percent more likely to use marijuana. 155% MORE LIKELY TO KILL THE… | /r/MensRights | 21/11/13 09:02 AM |
| -1 | Feminism: "Why do people think we hate men?"I have yet to see one [woman] who didn't abuse it or simply just fail That's abhorrent. Also, as I said, I'm working off Alien Blue here so linking comments is a real pain in the ass. I feel like you can extrapolate from the examples given that the attitude in here is aggressively negative towards both women and feminists. Here I am, looking to see how men struggle so it can understand men's right activism and this is what I see. I wanted to understand but at this point I'm leaving and never com… | /r/MensRights | 21/11/13 08:51 AM |
| 1 | Feminism: "Why do people think we hate men?"I edited to link comments that specifically targeted women and not just feminists. There are plenty here. | /r/MensRights | 21/11/13 08:33 AM |
| -1 | Feminism: "Why do people think we hate men?"http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/1r2wwe/feminism_why_do_people_think_we_hate_men/cdj7qzz I am on mobile so I can only do one at a time. This was a good example of a highly rated comment that is pretty fucking offensive. My main comments were, indeed, below the threshold at one point. I have not checked since. I completely agree that you are willing to discuss things!the discussions here are probably easier than the ones I've had elsewhere on these issues because there is a lot less ho… | /r/MensRights | 21/11/13 08:23 AM |
| -2 | Feminism: "Why do people think we hate men?"Well, I don't subscribe to any of those. :) so at least I'm not a hypocrite! Regardless, pointing fingers at other subs and saying they behave worse is kind of silly. I don't know the situation behind why they ban MRAs...although some of the comments in a lot of these threads are very anti-woman. It's something I would expect from a satirical subreddit but it honestly disgusted me in this setting. How can you fight for equality while honestly thinking this way and talking this way about women? T… | /r/MensRights | 21/11/13 08:07 AM |
| -1 | Feminism: "Why do people think we hate men?"I acknowledge that SRS would do it in a heartbeat, but it is a circlejerk. Commenting with dissent is actually against reddiquette (which says comments should be relevant and appropriate to the community) and the rules of the subreddit itself. I don't know about /r/feminism because I've never been there. Twox can go either way, but they don't ban MRAs unless something really sexist and offensive (like using a gendered slur) is said. As far as I've seen, they're really good about only downvoting … | /r/MensRights | 21/11/13 07:48 AM |
| -7 | Feminism: "Why do people think we hate men?"I'm concerned with how men are treated. I'm a feminist. I checked out this sub because I wanted to see what all the fuss was about and this thread is making me understand. You downvote anything that disagrees with your circlejerk and hate on feminists as if every person concerned with women's issues is an evil harpy. It's a mirror to SRS in this thread, seriously. Only SRS knows they're not serious. I had a decent discussion with some people...until I noticed that every comment I made was being … | /r/MensRights | 21/11/13 06:37 AM |
| 2 | A housemate posted this as her FB status. What do you think?Hey, seriously? Unwarranted comments can make people feel really uncomfortable. No one* likes to feel objectified by a stranger when they're just trying to print out some flyers or whatever. She's not asking him to be gay, she's (somewhat pointlessly, because it's on facebook) telling guys not to use pet names when you don't even know the woman you're calling "sweetheart". *unless they're into that sort of thing, but most people aren't. Edit: Just want to add, it all comes down to the way he was… | /r/MensRights | 21/11/13 06:23 AM |
| 2 | A housemate posted this as her FB status. What do you think?As a former female server, I would NEVER have called a customer any of those things. It is insanely unprofessional and rude and can come across as sexual harassment. | /r/MensRights | 21/11/13 06:13 AM |
| 1 | A housemate posted this as her FB status. What do you think?"Hon" is a little different than being called "sugar" or "babe". I call my friends and sister "hon", but "sugar" and "babe" tend to be thrown out by either your lover or the sleezy stranger that wants to pick you up. I don't think it would be appropriate no matter what gender either party is. | /r/MensRights | 21/11/13 05:57 AM |
| 5 | No, child support can’t be a choiceI wrote that response on mobile from work. I misspoke on the first one. I have the time right now to explain my views more fully for the second. Back in the days where the world was wild and untamed, men protected and provided for the women of the world. Women gathered and did labor near home. We know this to be true. Kingdoms sprang up led by whom? Men. Women were property. They were bargaining chips. In almost every culture in the world this is true. The article itself claimed that there is no… | /r/MensRights | 21/11/13 05:43 AM |
| 0 | No, child support can’t be a choiceYeah, I don't care that some men want to be absolved of responsibility for a child he never wanted. It's completely understandable. I really just worry about the kids and the fact that legislating that would be a nightmare. | /r/MensRights | 21/11/13 04:37 AM |
| 3 | No, child support can’t be a choiceNo, no, I don't think that at all. I don't think anyone sat down and said "Muahaha, let's oppress some wymen!" I just think it's a construct that was passed down all the way from our ancestor's ancestors. It's predominantly biological. But we're at a point in societal and cultural evolution that we can move past pure biology and allow people to just be...people. Once again...I'm not a feminist who thinks that all men are evil dictators who want to keep me barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen. I … | /r/MensRights | 21/11/13 04:34 AM |
| 2 | No, child support can’t be a choiceIt probably should. It's just hard to prove beyond a reasonable doubt, and therefore hard to legislate. It's the same reason why so many rape cases don't end up going to trial. It's why so many aren't even reported. But if it's somehow able to be proven, I think that there should be a law that is similar to entrapment. | /r/MensRights | 21/11/13 04:25 AM |
| 1 | No, child support can’t be a choiceUnfortunately, people who shouldn't have kids do have them. All the time. I said this in another comment, but I actually think that perhaps (if they can somehow draft laws that don't fuck things up worse) cases of single mothers would decrease if men were able to "opt out" at the very beginning. The problem is that there are "what if" situations that can occur and kinda fuck this all up. | /r/MensRights | 21/11/13 04:21 AM |
| 3 | No, child support can’t be a choiceI believe that he should be allowed to be legally separated and absolved of financial and legal responsibility, because once again, bodily autonomy of the woman. With the pill, you've agreed to be "fluid bonded" or whatever, and it implies that you are both clean of STIs and other diseases. With condoms there won't be any physical evidence (so sperm inside the vagina is obviously a red flag) and it implies that both parties a) aren't using another form of birth control and/or b) haven't chosen t… | /r/MensRights | 21/11/13 04:10 AM |
| 2 | No, child support can’t be a choiceI said that down below, actually. :) | /r/MensRights | 21/11/13 03:56 AM |
| 0 | No, child support can’t be a choiceAnd in some cases, the custodial parent actually has to give money to the parent with weekend/partial custody if the second parent doesn't make enough to provide for the child during visits. It's a very confusing and convoluted system that is unfairly slanted towards women because they tend to be the custodial parent. | /r/MensRights | 21/11/13 03:55 AM |
| 5 | No, child support can’t be a choiceI believe that it would be sexual assault of some sort, TBH. At the very least it is theft and should be punished as such. The child should be removed from the mother's care because she is obviously unfit, and if the father is not interested in raising the child he should be allowed to go on his way. Anything else is just as horrible as forcing a woman to carry to term a baby that she conceived while being raped. She should be able to choose whether to keep it or not, and so should a man in this… | /r/MensRights | 21/11/13 03:51 AM |
| 1 | No, child support can’t be a choiceHe didn't start to abuse her until they were married. She tried working it out through therapy, and when that didn't work, she left the relationship. I'm pretty sure calling her 'decision' to marry a man that would some day abuse her IS in fact victim blaming. | /r/MensRights | 21/11/13 03:44 AM |
| 0 | No, child support can’t be a choiceYou know, those are very good points. I guess what I just can't get around is the lack of help from whatever parent is absent (male or female) when it's the child that suffers. I wish there was a neat solution here, because I really do hear you. I understand and agree that it is an incredibly unfair situation. I just can't agree with things that ultimately hurt the child. I suppose if there was an "opt out" for men early on, then people who afford it might be less inclined to have children. That… | /r/MensRights | 21/11/13 03:07 AM |
| -1 | No, child support can’t be a choiceI didn't say anything about not having sex, I said that you should take responsibility and wear a condom if you don't want a child. Don't be with a partner who is anti-abortion. Discuss seriously how you would deal with a child if an accidental pregnancy occurs. My boyfriend and I have! Those are your choices that you made. Your responsibility. Additionally, you are completely ignoring and minimizing the psychological effect that aborting a child has on a woman. My mom got pregnant by my stepfat… | /r/MensRights | 21/11/13 02:12 AM |
| 5 | No, child support can’t be a choiceHey, thanks. I'm sure we won't always agree, but I will always defend your right to your opinion. :) | /r/MensRights | 21/11/13 01:23 AM |
| 2 | No, child support can’t be a choiceNo, but she was pretty young and he was an older man. I'd rather you not victim blame. Her mother was a drug addict and her dad was abusive, so she had no one. She was on her own at 14, was working full time and dropped out of school. Regardless, none of the things you said address the fact that my father chose to abuse her, wanted her to keep the pregnancy*, and fought for custody. He didn't argue that I was his responsibility. | /r/MensRights | 21/11/13 01:04 AM |
| 0 | No, child support can’t be a choicePatriarchy was created by men. I think that it was created by men (edit: I typed this rather hurriedly at work. I mean more that was created because men just did protective leader things and provided for the family. Women weren't even full citizens in many cultures. It's kind of impossible to argue that. However i DO NOT THINK that it was created in a malicious "let's be misogynists!" way. It just happened.) a LONG LONG LONG time ago, and we just kinda went with it because it worked. For centuri… | /r/MensRights | 21/11/13 12:24 AM |
| 2 | No, child support can’t be a choiceI wanna say that I don't deny that men get screwed in custody battles the majority of the time. Thankfully that is changing. I consider myself an egalitarian feminist, one of the feminists that realizes that while the situation we are in IS a result of patriarchy (which is NOT men's fault, not the men of today at least!) because the system works along the lines of traditional gender roles where man is money maker and woman is baby maker. In patriarchy, men support women because they are weaker a… | /r/MensRights | 20/11/13 11:50 PM |
| 2 | No, child support can’t be a choiceHe threatened to leave her if she aborted me, so they got married, had me, he abused her, and she eventually left. He didn't want the divorce, but seriously I commend my mom for having the courage to leave. He fought for me in the custody trial but he's an abusive, scary man. It was a long, hard-fought trial where both sides could have ended up with custody of me. He got weekend custody and they traded holidays, and TBH I think he only fought for custody out of spite. He proceeded to emotionally… | /r/MensRights | 20/11/13 11:40 PM |
| 2 | "We've all seen the horrific images of hundreds of innocent women burned or crushed to death in factories while making our clothes."Interestingly enough, that was one of the first subjects that we talked about in my sociology class. I live in a state that has a decent amount farmland on the eastern half of the state and so we got to hear from local people. It is an issue that people in my community talk about quite a bit. | /r/MensRights | 20/11/13 11:14 PM |
| 3 | "We've all seen the horrific images of hundreds of innocent women burned or crushed to death in factories while making our clothes."Isn't it more realistic that the lack of reporting rapes is incredibly high in countries where there is little to no rape care or counseling? I really don't believe in minimizing the issue of rape because it's incredibly important and under-reported. Men and women alike. | /r/MensRights | 20/11/13 11:12 PM |
| 4 | No, child support can’t be a choiceMy mother only asked for a small amount from my father. $300 a month that he often didn't pay. She was working two jobs to pay for her and I while going to community college for her AA. She asked for a small amount because she wanted me more than she wanted money, and really just needed a small amount to help feed and clothe me. Kids are fucking expensive. Edit: Might be slightly important to note that I also require a lot of medical care, and see doctors more than 6 times a month. This month I'… | /r/MensRights | 20/11/13 11:07 PM |
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