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| 0 | What does MensRights think about kyriarchy? | paigingbrenna | /r/MensRights | 15/07/12 05:01 PM |
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| -2 | Where are the gay MRAs?So, MRM does not believe in intersectionality? | /r/MensRights | 16/07/12 09:56 PM |
| 0 | What does MensRights think about kyriarchy?Age has nothing to do with naivete. I am not naive. I have been a feminist for 5+ years and I am very intelligent and educated. Don't blame our difference in opinion on naivete. | /r/MensRights | 16/07/12 08:59 PM |
| 0 | What does MensRights think about kyriarchy?Don't call me cupcake, that is condescending and paternalistic. And don't you dare call me a nazi. | /r/MensRights | 16/07/12 12:37 PM |
| 0 | What does MensRights think about kyriarchy?Because sex is bad, and vaginas are always sexual? There's our problem. | /r/MensRights | 16/07/12 12:34 PM |
| -2 | What does MensRights think about kyriarchy?The way you and many others in this thread speak to me simply for trying to understand and gently challenge your point of view shows that MRAs, for all they cry about gender egalitarianism, are paternalistic and condescending to women just as men are historically assumed to behave. | /r/MensRights | 16/07/12 03:01 AM |
| 0 | What does MensRights think about kyriarchy?You think because hilary got criticised for wearing pink one day you understand it all? Structurally, it is acceptable to criticize a female political candidate for appearing in public without makeup, being a "cold bitch", drinking, not being "hot" enough, or being too "sexy". Gender privilege is not individual and subjective as you would like it to be, but rather part of a system of oppression. | /r/MensRights | 16/07/12 02:57 AM |
| -2 | What does MensRights think about kyriarchy?I am not gender egalitarian. I am unapologetically a feminist. I am against all forms of discrimination, but it is a fact that discrimination happens to women or gender nonbinary persons more often than men, in politics and elsewhere. Your basis of judgement for determining whether or not women have it bad in politics is a class you took that was designed to teach you how women have it bad in politics. Quite a grand assumption, don't you think? | /r/MensRights | 16/07/12 02:56 AM |
| -3 | What does MensRights think about kyriarchy?Because gender is more commonly a hindrance to women in politics. Structurally, it is acceptable to criticize a female political candidate for appearing in public without makeup, being a "cold bitch", drinking, not being "hot" enough, or being too "sexy". Gender privilege is not individual and subjective as you would like it to be, but rather part of a system of oppression. | /r/MensRights | 16/07/12 02:54 AM |
| -4 | What does MensRights think about kyriarchy?gender is a benefit sometimes, and a negative sometimes. Of course it is. Please do not insult me. I have taken "real" politics courses, although the idea that gender studies is less "real" is also insulting. The treatment of women in politics is a major issue, despite the fact that is can sometimes be a privilege. Usually, it is not. | /r/MensRights | 16/07/12 12:31 AM |
| -1 | What does MensRights think about kyriarchy?Then you heard the argument wrong and do not understand how gender functions in politics. | /r/MensRights | 15/07/12 11:54 PM |
| -1 | What does MensRights think about kyriarchy?The irony with that power dynamics argument is that it promotes sexism against women by calling them poor little weaklings who can't defend themselves and have to have big strong men to protect them. That is not what power dynamics are about. It doesn't assume women are "weaklings" who need men to "protect them," it merely recognizes who has more power over others in society. You'd think that if you were going to criticize feminist theory you would at least understand it first. | /r/MensRights | 15/07/12 11:52 PM |
| -2 | What does MensRights think about kyriarchy?Vagina is a medical term. As is penis. Since vaginas were being discussed, it was perfectly acceptable for her to have said it. "I'm flattered you're so interested in my body" or even "I'm flattered you're so interested in my private parts" would have been acceptable. Why not vagina? | /r/MensRights | 15/07/12 11:50 PM |
| -2 | What does MensRights think about kyriarchy?the 'concerned feminist' still believes you have privelege by virtue of your sex/race...'undeserved' privelege, no less. Just like the Jews did back in the 1930's, is my guess... Could you explain this analogy further? | /r/MensRights | 15/07/12 11:46 PM |
| 0 | What does MensRights think about kyriarchy?Kyriarchy--especially its examination of gender--is kindergarten level at best. What it offends is the intelligence of people who have to listen to it. I'm sorry, I really don't understand this trope that gets repeated all over MensRights. How is a social theory explaining oppression "kindergarten level" of thinking? Or do you all just like to insult the intelligences of others? | /r/MensRights | 15/07/12 11:44 PM |
| -3 | What does MensRights think about kyriarchy?No, but men are not subaltern! | /r/MensRights | 15/07/12 11:42 PM |
| -2 | What does MensRights think about kyriarchy?according to kyriarchy theory, men can't be oppressed for being men? Where does it say that? Kyriarchy attempts to break down the men over women, white over black dichotomies created by other social theories. Men being oppressed for being men could certainly fit into kyriarchal theory if it happened. | /r/MensRights | 15/07/12 11:42 PM |
| 1 | Just noticed the key difference between the MRA and FeministsI don't need your opinion to know I'm smoking hot. | /r/MensRights | 15/07/12 11:28 PM |
| -1 | Just noticed the key difference between the MRA and FeministsI became MRM when I realized in Highschool that a girl was leading me on to receive computer/programming/english/history help. That is systematic oppression right there. /s | /r/MensRights | 15/07/12 07:35 PM |
| -8 | What does MensRights think about kyriarchy?The assumption that it is a slur shows that you are offended by your privilege. | /r/MensRights | 15/07/12 07:26 PM |
| -7 | What does MensRights think about kyriarchy?I thinks MRAs would be taken seriously outside of reddit if they were upfront about their privilege when addressing men's rights issues and didn't try to make themselves seem like the most important silent victims of society. | /r/MensRights | 15/07/12 07:21 PM |
| -4 | What does MensRights think about kyriarchy?on privilege | /r/MensRights | 15/07/12 07:07 PM |
| -1 | What does MensRights think about kyriarchy?And sexuality and age and ethnicity and class and physical ability and mental ability. | /r/MensRights | 15/07/12 07:05 PM |
| -2 | What does MensRights think about kyriarchy?Because it exists and affects every aspect of our lives? | /r/MensRights | 15/07/12 07:02 PM |
| -3 | What does MensRights think about kyriarchy?Since women are disproportionately represented in government, it makes sense that they should have a slight majority in voting power. I am curious about this statistic...is the percentage of men lower because of he percentage of incarcerated black men, perhaps? "Whatever women get offended by gets changed"? How about not letting women politicians testify on a panel about birth control mandates? How abut banning a female politician from speaking for saying the word "vagina"? How about the abortio… | /r/MensRights | 15/07/12 07:01 PM |
| -4 | What does MensRights think about kyriarchy?College is definitely a context in which white women have a lot of privilege. I am a white cis woman in college. I believe I am privileged in that context because I am intelligent and do well in school. I come from a lower class background and I had to work hard through high school to get into college. I work for my living while I am in school. Nothing was handed to me by "daddy" and I earn my privilege to be in school. I don't think I have much privilege over a white man in the same position. | /r/MensRights | 15/07/12 06:51 PM |
| 1 | What does MensRights think about kyriarchy?Not stupid, used the wrong word in context. Just fixed it. | /r/MensRights | 15/07/12 06:38 PM |
| -7 | What does MensRights think about kyriarchy?The whiter and more male you are, the more privilege you have. You are right about that. White male privilege exists and it is also complicated by varying systems of oppression based on religion, class, sexual orientation, ethnicity, etc. | /r/MensRights | 15/07/12 06:33 PM |
| -2 | What does MensRights think about kyriarchy?That is just not true. | /r/MensRights | 15/07/12 06:28 PM |
| -7 | What does MensRights think about kyriarchy?Only 17% of seats in Congress are held by women. (Source:http://www.cawp.rutgers.edu/fast_facts/levels_of_office/Congress-CurrentFacts.php) "A matriarchy is a society in which females, especially mothers, have the central roles of political leadership, moral authority, and control of property." We lack female representatives at all levels of government, and women who do hold political leadership are harshly criticized for their appearance or their femininity. Moral authority comes from religion … | /r/MensRights | 15/07/12 06:26 PM |
| 2 | Just noticed the key difference between the MRA and FeministsI am a smoking hot feminist and I beg to differ. | /r/MensRights | 15/07/12 06:15 PM |
| -2 | What does MensRights think about kyriarchy?What about gay white men? Disabled white men? Transgender white men? Incarcerated lower class white men? There are systems beyond race and gender to consider in kyriarchal theory. | /r/MensRights | 15/07/12 06:11 PM |
| 0 | What does MensRights think about kyriarchy?Could you explain Feminist Caste System, please? | /r/MensRights | 15/07/12 06:09 PM |
| -5 | What does MensRights think about kyriarchy?Read more closely. Edit: Whether you agree with it or not, if you think kyriarchy is "basically the same thing" as patriarchy than you don't understand either of those terms correctly. Kyriarchy is a way of explaining MRA concerns about oppression of men without blatantly ignoring the fact that we in no way live in a matriarchy. Feminism is not the cause of all "oppression of men" and MensRights will continue to be laughed at until they can explain their position without deriding the history of … | /r/MensRights | 15/07/12 05:52 PM |
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