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CMVpakleader/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/15 05:06 AM
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Question for BluePillpakleader/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/15 06:16 PM
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Discussionpakleader/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/15 06:21 PM
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SJW is a set of beliefs. They could be used for some social progress that is overall beneficial. For example, sjws at my school petitioned for relabelling the handicap single person bathroom as gender neutral bathrooms as well which could be helpful for trans students. However, like any set of beliefs, it can be used for bad. Often, it's used as a form of power. Perhaps not intentionally, but SJW beliefs are often used for moral superiority often on campus. For instance, at my uni, when SJWs cha…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/16 05:29 AM
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You know the other gender. 10/10.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/16 05:32 AM
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Maybe in addition to just saying a "5," you give pictures of celebs that you think is a "5"
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/16 11:22 PM
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That seems more a product of PC culture than anything. Which is a byproduct of academic gender studies, which would teach the ideology I mentioned. You can read the fundementals of gender studies pretty easily. it's on wikipedia.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/16 11:13 PM
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I don't think this the black guy can't be racist or woman can't be sexist is a feminist thing or a gender studies thing. Actually it is. This ideology is taught in entry level gender studies courses.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/16 04:33 PM
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If something can be objectively determined, then what is there to argue? You can say this about any phenomenon on the planet. For instance, it's an objective fact that light is either a particle, wave or both. It can be objectively determined in theory, but of course the proof is often not the clearest. This is what the argument is about... about what the data and research supports the most. Anyway, my point is that if it can be proven that only the minority of guys are having casual sex (and I'…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/16 04:31 PM
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But it's not all ideology? For example: one thing purported is that the minority of men have the majority of casual sex. That can be objectively determined (or not), and argued for (or against) based on data that's out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/16 05:43 AM
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Bloop - i found this study. Just from my experience, reds and blues post probably equal amounts of scientific studies... I think reds even more, but that could be due just to them being more populous. Terp - feminazi publication! Well if it was a publication and not a study that is a valid criticism. You later criticize okcupid in this same post. women lie! can't trust self-report! Women lie and men lie. The self report criticism is said by both sides, and it's just a limitation we should all be…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/16 05:40 AM
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One reason I think is the crazy ideology that gets spouted in Gender Studies. Like, racism/sexism/ and ism can only happen when there's a "power dynamic". So a black guy can't be racist and a woman can't be sexist. It assumes that white males, being the most powerful in society, are the oppressors who bring about rape culture. ALL of this is just ideology. But they teach it as if it's proven fact (as if it could be tested empirically, which I doubt). And when they teach it, they usually use text…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/16 05:30 AM
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Good. And I want all those students in the original video who were "walking into" the journalists to be suspended and charged as well. http://www.theguardian.com/world/video/2015/nov/10/university-of-missouri-protesters-blocked-pushed-journalists-video "We have a right to walk forward", no you don't bitch. You don't hve the right to walk into people. How are these university students?
/r/PussyPassDenied29/01/16 03:24 AM
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Oh, sweet summer child You can try to be condescending all you want but that entire paragraph didn't address my comment. At the end of the day, those found non-guilty should be treated as innocent, until proven otherwise. You're trying to overcomplicate this because you don't want to admit you're being facetious.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/16 04:03 AM
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Lol first of all this isn't really a slippery slope issue. Second of all, it's not a slippery slope. The slope is already slippery as this authoritarian law exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/16 12:37 AM
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The conflation between not guilty and innocent is a layperson's misunderstanding. I'm pretty sure everyone who understands basic logic can infer this. Obviously the point is if someone is found not-guilty, they should be treated as an innocent person until innocence is proven otherwise. You're just being inflammatory or are actually very naive.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/16 12:35 AM
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It's people like you that come up with these insane laws because you don't understand the basic fabric of the justice system.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/16 12:33 AM
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spoken like someone who doesn't have a clue. if we're playing this game... don't devote your whole existence to one girl and then blame women and society if she doesn't like you back or breaks up with you. if that's difficult advice, that's your problem, not mine. ....is the literal advice TRP gives.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/16 11:16 PM
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Do you have any men/guys that you would love to be with? Like a certain figure, celebrity, politician, or artist?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/16 11:15 PM
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I think I've been with more women than the average guy has.. Good looking women too and I'm only 5'8". And you'd be with hotter girls if you were a bit taller.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/16 03:24 AM
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Sure. Now where does that leave your retort?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/16 03:22 AM
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Gotta be real high okay nightclub or bar owner ??? Really?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/16 05:16 AM
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hey, go sue your local university's sociology department if you actually think it's better not to know. You can't care that blacks are being shot by police at a higher rate if you don't even keep statistics on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/16 04:46 AM
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^This plus bonus points for money, status, career, being interesting. and regards to the OP, no lol personality isn't more important than looks. both are deal breakers in some cases, but you get way more leeway in terms of personality. people just say personality because they don't want to look shallow... watch what people do, not what they say.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/16 04:39 AM
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QED, everyone
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 07:14 AM
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I would also say part of it is that while many men would like to participate in hookup culture, only a small percentage of those men actually are successful at it. Women usually tend to have "phases" where they explore the hookup culture (usually 18-24, after a big break up, or moving to uni/big city) and then realize they don't like sleeping around after the 6th guy or so. A small minority of men get to sleep with these women during this phase of the women's life.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 07:09 AM
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http://blog.okcupid.com/index.php/your-looks-and-online-dating/ pretty sure this has been posted before and youve seen this. what men vs women say is average.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 07:04 AM
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White men Uhh I'm not white first of all, thanks. White men punching down on minorities and women No, talking about men, not violent women. Funny how feminists will agree men do most of the violent crime, only when convenient. Also, if you think "punching down" is the same as listing risk factors for who's most likely to commit violent crime, then you're a moron. Knowing risk factors helps target interventions before we get to the stage of individuals committing crime. poorer, younger, mainly ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 06:59 AM
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Why do BPs always argue outliers when we are talking about the average?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 03:07 AM
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Wombat is burrowing.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 03:06 AM
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If she does win I think it signals that we have reached the point of no return as far as the stupidity of the average voter. That is exactly my train of thought. Sanders/Trump may literally be the last chance we get at a candidate that's not bought out. It'll literally be the decline of Western society as we know it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 02:48 AM
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I should say "supports" AF/BB. Also, AF/BB doesn't say that every woman has to cheat on their BB.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 02:46 AM
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I'm not mislabelling Betas here but I guess you could say that I omitted them. If we consider that the average person has ~5-6 lifetime sex partners, I would say most betas probably have had fewer than those. Omegas of course would not have any. Thus both Betas and Omegas make up the lower end up the spectrum of partner counts.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 02:44 AM
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Nah, some ballots will just get misplaced. Oopsies!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 01:23 AM
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I'm slow. Can you give me examples to help illustrate?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 01:10 AM
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It's not. Oh okay then.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 01:09 AM
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Ironically, right now you're showing your own ignorance of what TRP is, and by extension your inability to entertain thoughts you don't agree with.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 01:08 AM
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Yup. Look at the migrant crisis. It's pretty obvious that a subsection of the population that is: poorer, younger, mainly male, foreign (little in-country contacts), of a different language, educated in a different system, will tend to commit more crime. There's mountains of sociology data that examines those factors. But it's somehow taboo to state that problem? If we're too afraid of even declaring the current state of affairs, there's no chance we can implement interventions to help this subs…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 01:05 AM
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Most of the time I've been insulted or belittled by a woman, she wasn't exactly a catch herself. Shaming also validates herself. In her mind, reaffirms that she is "above" you and that she is in a higher league shared by alpha guys. It's also why women aren't just apathetic when low-status guys ask them out; they're straight up offended. They can't believe that a guy at that lvl would consider him worthy of her. It rocks their boat on their own perceived self-worth.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 12:51 AM
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men could solve this problem by being born masculine/alpha for women, because that's their only purpose, right? the criticism is what they get for not being tall enough. serves 'em right. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 12:48 AM
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because america suks guyz amirite?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 12:45 AM
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Quick word about the “Friend Zone”. Read point number 2 again. Guys do not fall into the friend zone if they are actually okay just being platonic friends instead of acting like a desperate, backup boyfriend. YOU have control over the boundaries you set in your life, take ownership of yourself and your emotions. Seems at odds with: RP calls it “abundance mentality”. Having lots of women in your life is a plus whether you are having sex with them or not. It's fine to have platonic women in your l…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 12:44 AM
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And if it was taken as evidence, then we would have to conclude that a very low percentage (<10%) of females actually employ that strategy. Just because the rate is currently low in society doesn't mean that it's not a legitimate sexual strategy considered by women. Also, we would expect the rate to be low in a relatively stable, family-unit centered society such as ours. It would be much higher many years ago. Also, just because there's a low number of "successful" conceptions doesn't rule out …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 12:06 AM
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It won't cum out for a long time. As a rule of thumb, anything on futurology will come out in the long future. But yeah I would definitely be down for male birth control.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/16 06:06 AM
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Yup. Those years of feeling special and wanted all of sudden evaporating can defintiely impact self esteem. They begin to realize that guys didn't find them interesting or cool, but just hit them up because they were young and pretty...and now that's gone.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/16 06:04 AM
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But the rate and how much varies greatly per person. It doesn't make sense to try to determine a "post wall age". Which was the point of this thread... that the wall varies from person to person but it exists. It exists as a concept. Jesus how hard is it to understand. It's like saying it's senseless to define "menopause" because it happens at varying ages from even as low as early 40's to even as high as 60's. It happens, it's a concept, so it's useful/informative to discuss. You saying you kno…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/16 06:02 AM
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lol u might be the only one to have watched the video in this thread
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/16 05:59 AM
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lol he's not trying to offend you right now
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/16 02:09 AM
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. I don't think many people believe, "I am a doctor, I am now a 10" Except that this is true for men. being a hot guy = attractive, a 9. now being a hot doctor? that's a 10. Success, power and status = higher visceral, physical attractiveness, ie: tingles. For women, education, success, etc. for sure adds no visceral attractiveness. It's just something that's nice to have, but doesn't give guys tingles (ie boners)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/16 05:32 PM
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you do also have to be physically attractive to the man YES. We all agree on that. What /u/PemBayliss is saying that they career driven women do not think agree with us and think that her successfulness adds attractive points.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/16 05:17 PM
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Yup. Especially when you consider that men usually marry women that were once thin, but becomes resentful when their spouse kinda gains the pounds.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/16 05:11 PM
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Did she commit a crime she's being forgiven for because she's female? I don't think there is a law that specifically says if you like about something to do with a relationship, you can be sued, although there might be. One would imagine there must be. I know this case of a woman who pretended to be a man, and had sex with another woman was found guilty of sexual assault in the UK. If we treat age as serious as "gender" needed for informed consent then perhaps there would be a case. Do you think …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/16 01:44 AM
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Yup a main principle of trp is that women want relationships and, in general, more than men. In that field, the scales are tipped more towards men. This is the whole AF/BB phenomena. All the Betas, who didn't have a flying chance hooking up with girls on the regular, are still able to be a "Beta bux" and find a mate. Here things are more square to 50/50. TRPers tend to be bitter about becoming a "beta bux" to a woman who's only willing to be in a relationship with him, and not willing to have hi…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/16 01:30 AM
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Tl;dr feminists don't believe rape culture is a biological phenomenon. As a rule of thumb, they tend to reject most things as a biological phenomenon.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/16 01:12 AM
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more but more and more marriages have a higher earning female. Whatever happened to "watch what they do not what they say"? The confounding variable in that is that women are simply making more, so it's more difficult to find men that earn more than women. So it's hard to determine to what extent women dating lower-earning men is out of choice versus out of what's available in the dating pool.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/16 07:48 AM
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....yes there are, but you were implying that age was the only important factor for determing a suitable mother that would pass on genes. Ie: a random 18 year old would be better than Serena Williams. Unless you're arguing that if we could build a time machine and make an 18 year old Serena Williams and that would be better than 34 year old Serena?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/16 07:43 AM
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Who do you think will turn out more athletic? The child of a random 18 year old or the child of Serena Williams? Because that's what you're asking.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/16 07:10 AM
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80/20 obviously describes hookup culture. Anyway, I've always found the 80/20 rule to be a bit ridiculous. Men are naturally more thirsty than women, so anywhere that's meant to be a place to hook up (bars, tinder, etc.) Lol wtf maybe you don't understand the 80/20 rule? Because the fact that men are thirstier than women is one of the explanations for the rule in the first place. Men being more thirsty means greater # of men willing to "hook up" than women. So more men than women looking to hook…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/16 06:53 AM
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Okay cool then we're in agreement. Sorry I was just under the impression that some BPs thought that under no circumstance a women count can be considered a dealbreaker. Turns out we're all a lot more reasonable than I gave us credit for.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/16 06:45 AM
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I would say TRP discusses alphas and betas in terms of the strict dichotomy just for the sake of convenience. But most things, especially people's personalities are on a spectrum. Don't know how obvious that is to most.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/16 12:23 AM
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Try looking at that if you're curious. https://www.reddit.com/r/RedPillWomen/ The goals there are the opposite of TRP (men). They're goal is to maintain a happy, stable LTR
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/16 12:22 AM
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It's good if it helped you avoid a bad spot. It's bad if you never were to encounter such a bad spot in your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/16 12:20 AM
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My view basically
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/16 12:19 AM
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Hmm example of how one side found the wrong answer but it led to their success?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/16 12:19 AM
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PUA =/= TRP for the last time. BUT, TRP probably has been useful for you in spotting natural alphas/fuckboys. It is very unlikely that you've encountered someone from TRP in your time, but you've probably encountered the behavior of someone acting like what TRP would recommend. It's the popular, good looking varsity athlete, or successful management student interning at Goldman that sleeps with a bunch of girls, sometimes for months/years, but never enters a committed relationship. That's becaus…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/16 12:18 AM
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Hmm I haven't of it like that before but good point. Before, I would say I was under the "women are wonderful effect" or "benevolent sexism" as fems put it. Any girl I dated, I would have blinders on that there'd be no way she'd do anything evil/selfish/crass for her benefit at my cost. It's good to remember that women are human too, and thus that they have the capability of hurting or betraying you. This message, of course, wasn't that popular I would say 5 years ago, as painting women negative…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/16 12:14 AM
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See my top level post on why TRP is useful. The fact is, all this advice you think is obvious isn't to most. There's a lot of noise in the world. If the average guy asked his female best friend if she values "physical attractiveness, success, and an alpha presonality", she'd play those down because it makes he seem shallow. Heck, every dating website would want to play them down, because the implication from saying women are attracted to those traits is that: they're shallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/16 12:09 AM
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See my top level post on why TRP is useful.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/16 12:05 AM
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Actually TRP give solid advice other than what OP mentioned. Imo why it's better than most is: Filters out the noise. Yes, we all knew that having a good body = more attractive. But there's always that doubt in that advice from all the noise about "every body is beautiful" and girls/dating columns out there saying "oh I prefer non-muscular guys!" or "guys who are healthy and not work out". It's very easy for men to think "oh I don't have to work out. Actually, it might be better that way: i'll f…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/16 12:05 AM
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or like how taking gender studies give white males a weird inferiority/superiority compex
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/16 11:53 PM
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making each other feel better about their lives. that's closer to BP. TRP actually has some pretty useful advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/16 06:09 PM
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Lol I love how it's mostly BP guys who think that college age girls find 25-30 year olds creepy when literally tons of college age girls love to date guys that age.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/16 06:08 PM
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Latina men/woman who look european count in the normal category. For the rest, well they're all lumped together. East Asian woman probably on par with black men. They're still definitely below "normal", european woman. I mean most normal white guys don't really resort to marrying an asian woman. Dating, yeah. But it's kind of a ding on your status if you married an asian woman. And yeah asian/indian guys below that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/16 05:58 PM
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So you're implying that it is common sense for men too, who are serious about a woman, to go ahead and ask about both STDs and partner counts?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/16 05:55 PM
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Yup. I wish I were taller, and white. Neither are things that I can change.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/16 08:11 AM
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Quick google search: 20% of obese people in Britain believe they are healthy weight. 10-15% in other European countries http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-3078393/Britain-fat-deluded-man-Europe-fifth-people-wrongly-believe-healthy-weight-obese-normal.html Obesity may be normalized as healthy in AMerica http://healthland.time.com/2010/10/19/study-many-obese-people-think-they-look-great-the-way-they-are/
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/16 08:08 AM
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I would care personally for STDs. Also I might feel insecure, but it's hard to tell without being in that situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/16 07:58 AM
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Cool, would you mind replying to the followup questions on this thread? Do you think he's obligated to tell you at some point while dating as the relationship gets serious? Do you think it's reasonable to ask about sexual history of your partner then to avoid man-whores like this?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/16 07:58 AM
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It's a lead-in question to the other thread I'm making. It's the only way to get the other side engaged these days. If I pointed out "yeah women are wary of a man that's been with 100's of women and you can't blame a guy for doing that too," then there'd just be upvoted posts of the few BPers who are "exceptions" that claim that they wouldn't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/16 07:57 AM
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Problem is, you can never know for sure even with STD testing. If you've been with 100's of people, you probably have one STD or another even if you were as safe as can be.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/16 07:55 AM
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Cool, would you mind replying to the followup questions on this thread? Do you think he's obligated to tell you at some point while dating as the relationship gets serious? Do you think it's reasonable to ask about sexual history of your partner then to avoid man-whores like this? And number 300 isn't bad. At least it's an even number. You don't wanna be 301.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/16 07:54 AM
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Cool, would you mind replying to the followup questions on this thread? Do you think he's obligated to tell you at some point while dating as the relationship gets serious? Do you think it's reasonable to ask about sexual history of your partner then to avoid man-whores like this?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/16 07:53 AM
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Wouldnt be a dealbreaker, i might be more wary pof him cheating though. It would make me insecure but if i really liked the guy it wouldnt change anything Would it be reasonable for men dating a women who's been with 100's of guys to be more wary of her cheating?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/16 07:53 AM
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Cool, would you mind replying to the followup questions on this thread? Do you think he's obligated to tell you at some point while dating as the relationship gets serious? Do you think it's reasonable to ask about sexual history of your partner then to avoid man-whores like this?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/16 07:52 AM
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Cool, would you mind replying to the followup questions on this thread? Do you think he's obligated to tell you at some point while dating as the relationship gets serious? Do you think it's reasonable to ask about sexual history of your partner then to avoid man-whores like this?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/16 07:52 AM
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Cool, would you mind replying to the followup questions on this thread? Do you think he's obligated to tell you at some point while dating as the relationship gets serious? Do you think it's reasonable to ask about sexual history of your partner then to avoid man-whores like this?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/16 07:52 AM
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Yup that's a problem between men and women. It's very hard to see from the other side's point of view.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/16 07:47 AM
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TOP 1 Rich and powerful men 2 attractive women 3 normal women 4 normal women 5 normal women 6 normal men 7 normal men 8 normal men 9 non-european men/women (indian, black, asian) 10 ugly women 11 ugly man BOTTOM
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/16 07:45 AM
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Copied from other comment: The point is, virgin shaming is just as bad as slut shaming, so anyone who does either can't take the moral high ground. Both cases are just judging someone for the amount of sex they've had. And yeah most of BP is focused on really cringey characterization of TRPers as virgin neckbeards. https://www.reddit.com/r/TheBluePill/comments/2rbtw8/so_you_want_to_stop_neck_bearding_here_is_how/ https://www.reddit.com/r/TheBluePill/comments/2tib66/999_of_females_are_of_low_inte…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/16 07:36 AM
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and whether we should insult people like that is another story. I'm fine with insulting people that way if you are. You are perfectly free to call someone a "sexual loser" (aka virgin) and attach the societal negative connotations that come with it. But you just don't get to be offended if someone calls you or your partner a worthless slut or cum whore for sleeping with 10 guys. But, like you say: Whether it's true that you're a whore-slut or not and whether we should insult people like that is …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/16 07:16 AM
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Dehumanizing and unnecessarily confrontational and aggressive. Ah I see. So you are uncomfortable with the possibility that humans, are at heart bad in some way -- if they, at heart, naturally tend to be a bit racist, discriminatory, vain, selfish, etc. So rather than entertain that possibility and go down that road, you would instead prefer to shut your ears and shut down that discussion?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/16 07:13 AM
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Yeah the last set of questions I asked for two purposes: 1) to see if BPers on PPD would know TRP theory well (which they actually did a pretty good job of) and 2) to help illustrate what TRP recommends is pretty good advice for men and not as outlandish as the general population would think. And I did the latter by asking what BPers would do and showing how similar it was to what a TRP would do. The point is, if you asked a redditor not on a pill subreddit what a TRPer would do, they'd probably…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/16 07:07 AM
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See it often with girls from hs to uni. There's a period where they haven't adjusted to the smv and they still hang out with their old friends of lower smv, where they still are nice and receptive to unpopular/ugly/mediocre guys, and where they may even date guys of their old SMV. But then, that girl catches on. She starts hanging out with the "pretty" girls and is only friendly/receptive to alpha guys. And all their old friends just assume that she's a "bitch now". In reality, it's more just an…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/16 12:11 AM
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ace work, hentai police.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/16 12:02 AM
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Buartha, you have to admit here that this is a stretch. TBP has definitely used virgin shaming as an insult. Most of reddit has in general. It's okay to be the bad guy sometimes~
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/16 11:56 PM
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Yeah in theory, but there's not much you can do in terms of guy's faces. I guess makeup in theory, but if anyone could tell you were wearing it, that'd be a social disaster. Plastic surgery is an option if it's a particular disfigurement. In 9/10 cases though, having a good body is more important for most cases of guys. Working out is less invasive, probably will give better results in terms of itnerest from the opposite sex, and makes you live longer.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/16 11:44 PM
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The point is, virgin shaming is just as bad as slut shaming, so anyone who does either can't take the moral high ground. Both cases are just judging someone for the amount of sex they've had. So that makes 90% of TBPers on the sub just as bad as "slut shamers" given that most have upvoted/said comments to the effect of TRP being full of virgin neck beards behind computers.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/16 11:39 PM
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World 1. In my perfect world, the male to female ratio would be 1:4. Men would still be in the most powerful positions, of course. lol I'm pretty sure I wrote the exact same sentence at one point in my life, only I was 10.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/16 09:06 AM
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bless your soul
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/16 09:04 AM
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Lol do not get him started. He'll start posting pictures of him flexing with his infant soon enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/16 09:00 AM
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It's kind of like a tree where you count the rings on the inside.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/16 08:58 AM
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I have complete faith that OP can get tonnes of these girls. Just very few of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/16 08:50 AM
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What OP is saying is that college aged girls are in their prime, whereas the prime of men hits after college. During college, tons of girls dated upper years, grad students, or working professionals. In fact, many of them preferred it. Reasons they gave for it were those men were more interesting, they were more successful, they were more mature. Girls, on average, like dating up and like dating older. College aged guys can't take advantage of this trend of girls wanting to date higher because t…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/16 08:49 AM
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Okay but he's speaking on average. Of course there will be those women that will not have it easy during college. Anyone overweight for instance won't be bombarded with messages. Most men in college either 1. are afraid to talk to women 2. are "playing the field" Maybe highschool (but even that is a stretch), but I don't know a college where men in general were "afraid" to talk to women. As for "playing the field" there aren't that many guys that I've seen that are able to consistently sleep wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/16 08:46 AM
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I know, finally an achievement more hollow than reddit gold
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/16 08:38 AM
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lol oh. well in this case when they call him red pill they mean he's "alpha". not that they mean that he's a TRP spokesman.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/16 08:37 AM
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/ / lie / / 4/6
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/16 05:13 AM
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/ / Don't respond, but ideally agree with white priv / / / / Avoid her for sure 6/6
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/16 05:10 AM
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/ x pretend to agree. very unlikely that you can pull that off in a class, but could be the correct answer if it was a single feminist you were talking to. / / / x Alternative answer correct. 4/6 Your personal answers are pretty similar to TRP
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/16 05:09 AM
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/ next her, she cant be a plate because she's not seeing you x pretend that you agree. also some schools/programs have required social studies courses. / x next her or let her resched / better yoruself x dont have sex with her 3/6 your responses are fairly different than what trp would say
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/16 05:07 AM
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Unclear if answer as trp or yoruself
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/16 05:04 AM
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/ / And actively agree with white priv / / Maybe give her 1 more chance to resched x Finding a better job/income/education is a high priority. Attractiveness is highly tied to status and wealth. Also bettering yourself highest priority, higher than getting laid / 5/6 You're personal responses are similar to TRP
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/16 05:02 AM
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/ / yup and actively engaged and agreed with white priv in public / / close enough. Next her, allow her to reschedule / lol at no fap / abort indeed 6/6 Your responses are pretty close to TRP
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/16 04:56 AM
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/ x pubiclly agree with white privelege x trp doesnt use ppl as emotional tampons (?) but correct in saying it was trpers fault / / / haha yeah, avoid 4/6 Your perspective is pretty similar to trp advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/16 04:50 AM
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Your responses here are closer to what TRP would do
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/16 04:48 AM
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x close, just next her and don't reply x , publicly agree that white priv exists / trp would say she owes you nothing x close, just next her and don't reply x misread q's /, but yeah it could actually be rape 2/6
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/16 04:47 AM
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/ / / / You've been reading current TRP, gold star / / 6/6
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/16 04:43 AM
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/ And act like you do believe in White privelege. But close so I'll give it to you Y=/ / Haha maybe bonus points for TRP's circlejerk about college being useless. But yeah education that nets you money. / x TRP would say too risky. Don't bring her home. 5/6
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/16 04:42 AM
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Okay traits that make you "Alpha" weren't invented by TRP. People acted like alphas before TRP existed. If they see a man acting in a manner which is what TRP would advise, then yes, he's an alpha. Example: Leonardo Dicaprio. He's high status, high smv male, rich, and he dates 20 year old models half his age. And he couldn't care less what you thought about in terms of the age difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/16 04:37 AM
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/thread
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/16 04:34 AM
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yeah. i wanted to start a thread about the trend on attraction to black females as well... especially a poll to see what males on ppd think about black women
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/16 04:33 AM
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yup
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/16 04:31 AM
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Fascinating stuff. I wonder why there's this push white to be ideal over there.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/16 04:31 AM
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Hmm very good point. We all laugh at Raj's cute accent or even the Quickie mart owner's accent in the Simpsons. But liberals have a moral panic on the guy who got in trouble because he brought a briefcase with a countdown timer on the front.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/16 04:27 AM
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Every social group has a "culture". It just doesn't seem like there's an American/Western culture because that's the background and considered "normal".
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/16 04:24 AM
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I'll post answers tomorrow
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/16 04:18 AM
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Try visiting the silicon valley
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/16 12:44 AM
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Thanks, I actually appreciate the honesty.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/16 12:23 AM
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Thanks man. Anything differing advice to offer before that link turns purple?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/16 12:23 AM
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There's nothing wrong with embracing your own culture We're just messing around with semantics here. Generally the agreed upon advice in this thread is to assimilate. No one is arguing that having a tiny bit of cultural charm is a bad thing, but being 99% american is the best way to go.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/16 12:22 AM
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Thank you for the honesty, more useful than most of the comments here that beat around the bush
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/16 12:20 AM
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I don't really see that. But you do see threads about asians looking to get with non-asians (be it american, european, hispanic, etc). The reason why? From the asian guy perspective, it's pretty easy to get asian girls. If you are the top 10% of asian guys, you can get most asian girls. The thing is, despite being the top 10% of asian guys, they have trouble getting women of other races. That's why you see threads asking how to make themselves more appealing to non-asians. Bros give asian guys s…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/16 12:16 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/15 11:25 PM
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The prototypical chad is leonardo dicaprio by the way. Movie star, huge status, good looking, good body, rich, has sex with 18-20 year old models, doesn't settle down. Sure even the most discerning girl would be wary of being pumped and dumped. But it likely won't stop them from sleeping with him for the chance of "changing him".
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/15 11:06 PM
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I guess no one has ever made the claim that: Increased sexual freedom will lead to increased casual sex for all men. But by intuition, I think most (including myself before TRP) would assume that yeah, all men would more or less get the same increase in chance of casual sex. Sure they'll be hot girls who have casual sex with hot guys, but I would assume they'll always be average girls having casual sex with average guys. Except it's not the case. Hot guys will have sex with both the hot girls an…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/15 10:54 PM
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Cool mind linking that? Mainly just the one about sexual partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/15 10:51 PM
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Thanks for your response in any case. So, what would you do differently for each response if I may ask?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/15 10:49 PM
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Lol I always wonder if BP's actually find this style of writing humorous. It always makes me cringe a bit. Anyways, translation: Next her / Agree that White Priv exists. / She doesn't owe you sex and if you like her, stop orbiting her. / Next her / Improve yourself / Take her home despite being very drunk x (TRP would say no) Edit: added scores. 5/6 What would you do differently for each response?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/15 10:35 PM
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I asked for advice for a asian/indian guy not a white kid bullied in school.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/15 10:30 PM
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One cult, coming right up.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/15 10:29 PM
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In your initial comment to me you specifically went to the example of whites and Asians, Lol you brought up White women first. Just read your first comment. Also, my example could have used any race. I was illustrating a point. Looking back, I didn't even mention white women up there which is what you're honed in on. since most Asians looking to date interracially want to do so with whites I made this assumption. Exactly, "assumption". I'm asking for someone wanting to date someone outside of th…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/15 10:29 PM
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We should have a running count on responses that swear they're way above replying to a post and therefore don't have to refute it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/15 10:06 PM
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something about being emotionally distant and making it obvious you're talking to other girls. something about women having the most privilege because they can sleep with whoever they want. dunno if you think you'd be owed sex, but it's their fault for being Beta Bux and putting her on the pedestal. either "ill be at x bar, come if you want" or somehow make it obvious she isnt the only person you're trying to sleep with. spend weekends going to clubs and inviting her, all the while meeting other…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/15 09:58 PM
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I probably do this inadvertently. I love my girlfriend and I don't even flirt with other girls, I really couldn't bring myself to even create a situation to make her feel uneasy or that our relationship is under threat, but even friendly talking probably has a mild dread game effect. Yup, pretty self aware of you. What I'm saying is that even though I feel conscious application of dread game is abuse and is morally wrong, At some point (but far down the scale) it is abuse. Don't think dread game…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/15 09:56 PM
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Yeah he's just using "low T levels" as the equivalent of saying "i think you're a pussy"
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/15 09:54 PM
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The assimilation is. Try to find a feminist that would recommend men/women become as American as possible and put their cultural upbringing on the sideline to try and attract mates. They will literally say, embrace your culture and be yourself! Women/men really dig it!
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/15 09:53 PM
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Having casual sex =/= Being in a committed relationship. Don't get what youre saying... Are you saying that you don't care how many guys a girl's been with in terms of having casual sex with her but you would care how many guys she's been with for a committed relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/15 09:50 PM
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Dread game Dread game is a sliding scale. Being social and good looking (even when you've landed your LTR) is actually a form of dread game. Plating TRP doesn't recommend plating. It just teaches you how, in case you want to fuck multiple women. AWALT, concepts I would say you just disagree with the theory of TRP but agree with the practical advice (the subject of my next post).
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/15 09:45 PM
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I'm really glad you don't care. Because if you ever end up with an LTR who has slept with 100's of guys, keep in mind that likely many of those guys were just like the TRPers you love PP debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/15 09:41 PM
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You didn't answer my question but okay Yes I did. You just need to work on your reading. One legitimate reason for wanting to date someone outside your race (be it white, black, hispanic, european) is Americanized minorities might find more in common with an American partner than those of their own race due to their upbringing. You're the one who keeps on bringing up white women. My post just said a man who IS NOT attracted to women of his own race. I think most people would agree that no person…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/15 09:37 PM
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Okay so would you say TRP would recommend the exact same thing as above? Or how do you think TRP would differ in their advice?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/15 09:28 PM
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At this point you're just a TRPer with a blue flair lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/15 09:26 PM
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But I'm not looking to benefit society. I'm looking to benefit myself. Then you, like me, should continue on promoting sex positivity. It means more women open to sleeping around with when you want, and settling down when you find the one.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/15 09:23 PM
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Fair, but if you're not going to bother adding anything constructive you're just as big of a troll as you claim him to be. Put on your hiking boots or gtfo.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/15 09:21 PM
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Hand over your jew gold.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/15 09:18 PM
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When you say outside your race you mean white and when you say "personal reasons" you mean racial inferiority complex Umm no. Plenty of people have their own preferences for dating different people of different races. I know white guys who prefer dating asian women. I know asian girls who prefer dating white men. I wouldn't chalk it up to an inferiority complex. Also, plenty of people prefer dating within their race and that preference is "seen as okay" which is really just an arbitrary moral li…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/15 09:17 PM
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I've decided you wouldn't be able to handle it as a non-white lower socioeconomic class person anywhere. And you would? I would say this about probably everyone on this sub including myself. Yeah you try being a migrant worker in Saudi Arabia. Thanks for ignoring the original point of this post which was to compare the lifestyle/privilege of White Women versus other intersections in middle/upper class Western Society.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/15 09:07 PM
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I'm Jewish First of all you're all working obsessed nerd you are no fun your goodie goodies Lol you'd think a Jewish guy of all people would be more conscious of stereotypes. Anyways, I'll make a mental note of getting tattoos and getting into drugs.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/15 09:04 PM
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Be indignant. Next her. Lift. Say nothing and observe the enemy. Go home. Lift. Why are you orbiting her? Stop being a beta. Lift. Ignore her. Go back on Tinder. Lift. Look into getting a trade. Screw college. Lift. Take her home. Lift. Thanks for your reply! What would you personally recommend doing different (if you do have any differing recommendations)?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/15 09:01 PM
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Next Think as you like but talk like others. No. It's your responsibility not to be a doormat. There will be two type of responses to this. 1) Would she cancel for Brad Pitt? No? Next. 2) Say, 'No problem. Send me a text next time you are not busy' and then forget about her and put all your effort into some other girl. Lift and improve yourself first. It's not worth the risk of a possible false rape accusation. Find another ho. Thanks for your reply! What would you personally recommend doing dif…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/15 09:00 PM
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Lol your original comment was something like: "What's wrong with you asian men" At least this new edit is slightly less useless.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/15 08:16 PM
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Well, considering most people are heterosexual, you should include slut-shaming to man sluts as well if you are worried about damaging society. The Church, in the past, looked down upon men AND women for sleeping around. I do think that if everyone was extremely slutty, it would lead to devolution of marriage and the family unit which is necessary for society to carry on. But to be honest, even at this level of sexual freedom, our society's not going to crumble overnight so I don't think it's a …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/15 08:10 PM
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We are a the sacrified generation, our parents lived on a system which is not sustainable anymore and we as western young people will have to support the change. Support our parent's system and the new one, we will be the one who pay for this. Women and men together. This point doesn't really differentiate men and women OR white women from colored women. Anyways, there's still more societal pressure for men to be the provider than women, so this is actually a point that it is harder for men. Eas…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/15 07:45 PM
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It works fine with me. A better analogy might be scientists and physicians who are religious. Obviously a lot of what they study (ie: evolution, or big bang theory) conflicts with their beliefs. They are still able to reconcile the two/double think, in order to apply the principles of evolution to a newly evolving virus. Anyways, we're talking about an "ideal" TRPer. I'm sure there are plenty of sociopaths in the world who find it quite easily to advocate for something externally while behaving/…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/15 02:52 AM
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Exactly the essence of this post. It's funny that BPers in the sub think that TRPers are fedora wearing neck beards, who publicly support the MRA and use pickup-lines and negging.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/15 02:49 AM
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What did this guy do wrong? He didn't ask out enough girls
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/15 02:44 AM
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If we all became TRPers tomorrow, the world would be fucked. This is actually why I wouldn't mind TRP shutting down or it becoming private. The fact is, TRP can't help all of mankind. It only helps the few individuals that come across it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/15 02:41 AM
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Copied from my reply below: In the college community, I'm not sure if you realize, but the individuals with the most power these days on campus are those who display highly democratic values. We live in a PC culture. Almost every university student council across the country is full of very left-leaning individuals (at least with the Ivy league and North Eastern schools). Thus, integrating yourself within those individuals with a high amount of influence in your university is obviously a terrifi…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/15 02:38 AM
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Saying that you are a feminist might win you approval by some women, but it won't make you more attractive. So no, a red piller probably wouldn't and in my opinion shouldn't do this. In the college community, I'm not sure if you realize, but the individuals with the most power these days on campus are those who display highly democratic values. We live in a PC culture. Almost every university student council across the country is full of very left-leaning individuals (at least with the Ivy leagu…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/15 02:33 AM
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You are not understanding at all, but it's good that we can clarify this. MGTOWs and Roosh are not the people I am describing. TRP is very specific in the qualities that it says are ideal in a TRPer. In fact, any "TRP" spokesman who is in public about being in TRP is not in that "TRP ideal" by definition. TRP would say it is completely ludicrous to admit to being part of a much-hated subreddit, as it just needlessly damages your social proof. As I said earlier, the ideal TRPer would outwardly no…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/15 02:26 AM
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Actually wasn't aware of this, thanks. Corrected this in the original post. Before this, I always assumed RP referred the the TRP sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/15 02:18 AM
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The idea that the men get screwed is mostly hamstering by beta wanna be alphas. That sounds pretty sexist. I would still say that men lose out more, all else being equal. Assuming that men and women have the same propensity to "playing the game" to win out And also being aware of the fact that men still are the primary breadwinners for most families It's just a numbers game where men have more to lose than women on average. As women breadwinners come into existence, they'll realize that they sys…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/15 02:16 AM
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One problem with the methodology is that the very highest of the posts that get upvoted might be just becaues of lurkers, who I wouldn't necessarily call RPers, who just hate the SMV so upvote any revenge fantasy/censorship they see, and not necessarily care for the theory or self-help. But this is still phenomenally better than the average BP post. I like how you try to quantify things. I would suggest a larger sample size of posts. When you start to include in the threshold posts that are arou…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/15 02:05 AM
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The direct fault is Women and Alphas. Women are only satisfied with the "best" (ie hottest, most successful, highest social status) guy that she's ever been with (whether it was a hook up or a relationship or a fwb). She is unable to settle with a guy below what she had previously The alpha hooks up, has brief relationships, and fwb with women below his smv, out of convenience or variety, or just wanting company/affection/sex. He, of course, will not settle with any one women because the loose "…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/15 01:58 AM
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I have literally never once heard a female friend or acquaintance gush over a man's income. Prob because you are in the middle class. In order to be fully impressed with/attracted to another man's income, he needs to be a full degree of wealth higher than the woman. For example, a woman who grew up in a 20k/year household will easily be impressed by a man who makes 100k. A woman who grew up in a middle class, 60k household will likely not see a 100k man as that impressive. A 250k man? Yeah, gett…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 04:37 AM
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Yeah... also not sure why this post is so highly upvoted when all the top level comments point out that the initial premise is wrong in the first place (hint: BPers don't bother reading counter-arguments)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 04:29 AM
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think 4chan's /fit/ instead
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/15 03:22 AM
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Yeah this. People saying trp is full of obvious advice omit the fact that TRP is full of obvious, REAL advice without the noise. Who do you listen to when one advice column says "girls like geeky guys" or "girls like guys who put them first" beside "girls like guys who are have don't give a fuck personality"?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/15 03:21 AM
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He put it in quotations. im guessing they were more his girlfriend's friends than his. tons of attractive girls have "friends" like these
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/15 03:16 AM
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I wonder the exact same thing. I wanted to make a thread and ask women if they've noticed the "every guy is so friendly to me :)" thing die down over time as they aged.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/15 03:15 AM
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Would they even allow the adoption even happen if the parents aren't together? Anyway , if you're comparing adoption with pregnancy , it's not the same thing. For the second time in this thread I'm not. I'm just curious from purely a financial point of view and child support.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/15 04:21 AM
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So despite me saying so twice in the post, you are debating the premise instead of going with the thought experiment. Please have parent threads directly address the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/15 04:20 AM
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I get your point as well, but I'm not asking about pregnancy. I'm just curious from purely a financial point of view and child support.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/15 04:11 AM
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Lol okay slut shamer. What if someone said the same thing about a woman who slept with a ton of dudes?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 01:39 PM
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The thought of abusing someone who trusts you to get them to give up more sex is ghastly. I don't think anyone said that. Physical intimacy is important to a lot of relationships, but to completely destabilize your relationship, or make someone you love miserable and apprehensive with something as loathsome as dread game, just to get your dick wet? Okay is it abusive if one side doesn't want ANY physical intamacy and refuses to give it?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 01:13 PM
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What is there to get mad at RPW for? Lol umm they have the exact same ideological foundation as TRP. They just apply it in the benefit of women. So I guess you're saying, "what is there to get mad at the ideology of TRP/RPW for?"
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 01:11 PM
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People have different libidos. Why is it unreasonable for a man or a woman to have a dealbreaker that they want a partner with a relatively similar level of libido? Would it make any difference in your perspective to you to imagine the position of a man who would just want sex once a month, but his (gay) male partner only wanted sex once a year?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 02:06 AM
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I'm not saying you didn't fall in love with him, but the point is, pretending there was a version exactly the same as your husband who made more money, that X husband would be more desirable. The point of this survey is to see what people want ideally. In the real world, they'll probably not find all the traits that they want, and will settle for other traits that they like.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 02:02 AM
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it's not unreasonable to think she might not want to share it or downgrade her lifestyle for someone right off the bat and/or for a long period of time LOL and you guys get all riled up when RPers talk the same way about why you should avoid marrying women who make less than you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 01:59 AM
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lol, there's no point in continuing. If your premise isn't airtight, Bloops are going to pretend that they don't understand it: simply that many women, who just simply aren't attracted to their spouses enough to have sex on many nights, give half-truthful reasons like "i'm tired". Might as well just remake a new post.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 01:57 AM
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These studies are all about what people say they want not their actual actions in picking a mate. When I was single would I have said I wanted a man who made less money than me? No. Am I happily married to a man that makes less money than me? I think both questions are valuable. People are going to end up with the best that they can do (in your case a man that doesn't make as much as you would have ideally wanted). This question takes on what the person's preferences actually are. In your case f…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 03:21 PM
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i'm expecting a red piller to storm in shouting about how this proves women are only after money, but let us not forget: these ladies have their own money and wouldn't need a so-called beta bucks. Ummm it's all relative. The example of a woman who "has her own money" proves women are hypergamous more than anything. If she has her own money, she wouldn't mind dating someone with less money than her. The fact that most women have preferences for someone with at least their income or more shows tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 03:19 PM
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Yup and they are alpha widows.. not sure what can be done
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/15 03:23 AM
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Thanks for the downvote. I'm extending your logic to men, genius.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/15 08:25 PM
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Are they the type as well to proclaim on social media their love of chocolate and wine as if to say this was all within their control?
/r/TheRedPill23/08/15 08:24 PM
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Men don't get free passes in Engineering fields. Men work hard, and those men get the jobs. If women choose not to pursue engineering jobs, how is it the fault of men in general?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/15 08:07 PM
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Responsibility makes you accountable for the consequences of your actions. This is why women are indirect and use powertalk as their default operandi. Ahh just realized this myself. It's kind of like a lawyer when you're with a girl. They always instinctively want to make sure they have plausible deniability. By the end of the night, if it goes sour, she can always say "I told you so".
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/15 08:05 PM
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Serious question, have you dated someone with a mental illness? And not just the relatively less severe ones like ad/hd or depression? But like someone with full blow bipolar disorder? And if not, is it fair to say that you hate mentally ill people?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/15 06:06 PM
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With great power comes great responsibility. You can use dread for a quick bang before you break up with your gf. Or you can use it to maintain attraction in a LTR. It's up to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/15 06:03 PM
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Uh he is about as as alpha you can get. He's rich, good looking musician.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/15 03:09 AM
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Yeah lol TRP would never tell you to blow any money at clubs.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/15 03:08 AM
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Assuming that the said slut/creep had consensual sex with another adult, 18 years and up... At the end of the day I find, slut and creep shaming are done by both sexes to try and "judge" another person, usually out of sexual jealousy. In extreme cases, it might serve to limit the sexual freedom of others. ie: Jealous male who calls girls sluts because she sleeps with everyone (but him) Jealous female who calls other women sluts, because they are down to get more male attention and sex than her J…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/15 01:46 AM
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Mmm. My friends often observe a similar thing in their harder math classes/engineering classes. They felt that the evaluation/marking/teacher's apathy was specifically directed at them, and directed at them because they were a woman. In fact, everyone got pretty much the same shitty treatment.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/15 01:39 AM
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Well assuming they're over 18, they're not school girls as much as they're adult women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/15 12:14 AM
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Or maybe relationships would improve ? Isn't that supposedly what TRP is about ? No, and I think you should know this by now as I'm pretty sure it was said earlier. TRP is out there for the best interest of guys. In terms of an LTR, yes it might make it more stable or improve it because the goal is for a solid relationship. In terms of the majority of users, they are either single, dating, or plating and don't intend on entering an LTR/marriage. And, acting in their own self interest, they will …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/15 10:08 PM
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Giving men and women freedoms could destroy society or weaken it. IE: If there wasn't any public pressure to marry or have a family unit, birthrates would tend to decline and a country may no longer have enough human capital to pay for the debts of the previous generation. In the context of sexual freedom, pretend all guys started reading TRP. This would lead to a very unstable society where both men and women were acting at their maximal self-interest. Men would dodge commitment while women wil…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/15 10:00 PM
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If we're talking with this analogy, competing alphas will punch the betas before they move onto the alphas. And then those that can't compete will just become herbivore men. http://io9.com/how-rats-turned-their-private-paradise-into-a-terrifyin-1687584457
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/15 09:57 PM
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So shoehorn more men into teaching and nursing? Yup, similar to how we shoehorn underrepresented groups into college programs and women in STEM fields for decades. Why is this so hard to fathom when it's a male?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/15 09:55 PM
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Many men raised in liberal communities, who are atheists, still see relationships (including sexual ones) through a moral lens as well. But I see your point.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/15 06:44 PM
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And female medical students will probably outnumber male med students in the next 10 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/15 06:43 PM
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the traditional view that men cannot be abused by women existed LONG before feminism. I agree. But the reason today why male shelters don't get the funding and support it needs is because those in charge of those decisions (ie: those most likely educated in feminism, gender studies, social work, etc) all were taught the feminist model. And in that feminist model, the basis the marxist male:female, bourgeois:proletariat power dynamic. That is inherent in feminism. TO the feminists, using resource…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/15 06:41 PM
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Deflecting again.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/15 06:37 PM
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Guys the question is: is it considered creepy by society, not personally. I think there is that double standard for guys with huge SMVs. If a pro football player or famous actor who's 35 starts going out with a 20 year old, everyone will take it as par for the course. IMO it might partly be social proof which lets you get away with things like dating a girl well below your age gap. That, and the tacit understanding by society that girls are the most attractive in their early 20's -- meaning that…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/15 04:00 PM
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Lol dating your daughter. Based indeed...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/15 03:58 PM
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Forget a pedestal, he put that woman up on the goddamn acropolis
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/15 03:57 PM
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I think you're missing the point. The general public cares more about the women and children instinctively rather than the lives of the men, no matter how high the body count.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/15 07:37 AM
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So he hung himself because the taxpayer wouldn't fund his failed business? Happens all the time. Again, I genuinely think that males and females have trouble empathizing even with the opposite sex these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/15 07:25 AM
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Look, men need advocates but I think mens rights advocates have totally missed the mark by attacking feminism. Actually there are men's rights groups that don't attack feminism at all and make sure their members don't. But it's a common sidestep that I've heard from every feminist friend that all mra groups attack feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/15 07:22 AM
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Lol damn you're cold. Imagine if it was a female survivor of domestic abuse who spent her life savings on helping fellow women of abuse. Who, then out of a sadness that she could no longer afford to help the women, committed suicide. I genuinely think that males and females have trouble empathizing even with the opposite sex these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/15 07:18 AM
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why are we pointing to feminism as the root of the lack of support As I said before: feminism, at it's heart, is incompatible with male survivors of domestic abuse. “In Canada, they’re stuck with a Marxist gender model and that’s never going to change,” he said, explaining that the current system defines “male and female relationships where men are the bourgeois group with the power and women as the proletariat with no power.” And for that, feminists will rationalize that any funds spent on male…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/15 07:17 AM
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For instance, if a foundation came together to build a shelter for male victims of domestic abuse, I really think people would support it. "Privately run shelter for male victims of domestic abuse [and only male shelter in the country] forced to close its doors due to lack of funding" “In Canada, they’re stuck with a Marxist gender model and that’s never going to change,” he said, explaining that the current system defines “male and female relationships where men are the bourgeois group with the…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/15 06:13 AM
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The mistake you're making is context. Say the loser and thug. They have social status in their particular setting. The ol' story is the high school drop-out who smoked and sold drugs. He usually wound up with someone hot during high school because he was the "coolest" in that setting. Also, RP doesn't say status is the only thing that's important. Of course, if it's a spanish immigrant who's unbelievably hot, girls would be down to bang that. It'd just help that said immigrant more if he happene…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/15 06:05 AM
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We don't need feminism. Saudi Arabia needs feminism. What WE need to do is stop printing out so many damn gender studies degrees.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/15 05:59 AM
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Feminism is flawed for sure but I still consider myself a feminist. As an upper middle class white woman- I am doing fine. Feminism, at least where I want it to be focused,isn't for me. It's for women of color, trans women and economically disadvantaged women. Yup completely agree. The wage gap is real between a Black Woman and a White Man (or woman) for that matter. This view also explains the recent (small) trend of anti-"white feminism". The elephant in the room is that feminism has mainly be…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/15 05:53 AM
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Same. People just don't do this
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/15 03:58 AM
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Same, this is pretty interesting
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/15 03:56 AM
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That's your call
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/15 03:56 AM
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lol they tested it using dna after giving the people a special mouthwash. hmm i smell a business opportunity.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/15 03:55 AM
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The idea is that guns are designed only to destroy LOL dude you actually don't know what this analogy is saying
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/15 03:52 AM
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Ah you win. Defeating an argument by muddling up the analogy. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/15 03:52 AM
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Other BPers do. Which part about it do you not agree with?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/15 03:50 AM
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This is a case where feminism claims that they do something by destroying the patriarchy. Practically, though? They wouldn't move a finger or mobilize. Won't see any topless protests about this anytime soon.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/15 03:48 AM
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Awesome, something useful and new. More of these please?
/r/TheRedPill22/08/15 03:17 AM
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These are the strange places arguments with BPers take us to
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/15 10:00 PM
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All of a sudden all those comments about "how amazing/attractive/high-earning his wife was" makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/15 09:52 PM
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Being a cuckold is a fetish. Cuckold has multiple meanings. It could refer to the fetish of cuckolding but it can also refer to the status of being a cuckold.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/15 09:50 PM
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Article says they found a gene related to thrill seeking. OP concludes AWALT hypergamy is disproven. ??? Yup, sums up the average intelligence in these debates.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/15 09:43 PM
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At a uni? You know you can get into shit for dating a uni girl even as an instructor right brah?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/15 07:30 AM
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Uhh russia then?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/15 07:28 AM
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it's a hypothetical situation
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/15 07:21 AM
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All of the good parts of TRP you mentioned are things that the wider society (and most of TBP) agrees with them on. The only unique thing that TRP adds is the misanthropy. I think that's way too black and white. There are obvious things like confidence or looking good that is politically correct and on TRP. But there are also politically incorrect things that TRP states, that is NOT widely spread throughout society, but is TRUE. For example, dread game, shit tests, the alpha/beta dynamic (how on…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/15 07:20 AM
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Likewise, TRP will get you some women, the ones who fall for the fake confidence, pseudo-alpha spiel, Lol that's not TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/15 07:15 AM
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Well yeah. Women are human too. And some are assholes. So when some of those female assholes get the chance to be hateful, bigoted, and authoritarian (without any repercussions), hell, of course she'll take it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/15 07:12 AM
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Agreed. Your guy friends have a lot of positive attributes, but you make the mistake in thinking that makes good hookup material. Decent looks Good job High earnings Good values All the above only make you the perfect BetaBux<sup>TM.</sup> And girls (especially the ones here) will say that they love that kind of guy, but what they won't tell you is they only like that guy for relationship material. For hookups and FWBs, you need a list of other traits (see: TRP [to the dismay of women]).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/15 07:10 AM
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I don't know why I found this so funny
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 06:55 AM
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There's no details on what things were like before he started changing so it's hard to make any comment. But it's natural that people do shit tests when they feel insecure about their relationships. Obviously she sees her husband as getting more attractive, and also standing up to the wife/not bending over to her whim. So this makes her insecure. To establish control over him, and ensure he stays with her, she's pulling the ol' I'm leaving (but please chase after me) tactic to try and make her h…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 06:53 AM
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You've seen plenty of Alpha males in your life. Think of most coed friend circles. There's always a guy there who everyone turns to, who's the life of the conversation, who probably has loads of positive qualities (looks, money, body, success). It's not really rocket science
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 02:59 AM
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Lol the thing is, almost every female friend who has graduated undergrad has told me that they regretted not finding their hubby then. It's a hell of a lot harder to meet single, cool, attractive, succesful guys after undergrad. Grad school is much much slimmer pickings.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 02:39 AM
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You have a girlfriend for now. The TRP mindset is that you should always be attractive to women, regardless of whether or not you have a SO. If other girls don't find you attractive, it's only time before your SO catches on.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/15 11:07 PM
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Should say comment count and low post count generally
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/15 02:30 AM
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Rhetorical question. My point is that how do these guys know that circumcision is affecting their pleasure when they don't even know what it's like the other way round?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/15 01:54 AM
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Sure you have one anecdotal piece of evidence which is strong as any other anecdotal piece of evidence (which is not strong in case you're wondering).
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/15 01:46 AM
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Generally, anybody who claims you commited a "fallacy" is not worth arguing with. Okay there buddy. If they could argue they would explain to you why your argument is wrong instead of casting spells like "Ad hominem!". And no I'm not encouraging people to randomly shout out fallacies. But there have been common fallacies on PPD that could be grouped into the ones listed in this thread. Moreover, your argument using this image is kinda non-applicable. Yes, it's dumb to shout out fallacies in ever…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/15 01:43 AM
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Really? Are these people who had no circumcion and then were?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/15 12:24 AM
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Probably you had a low post count in RPW and they assumed you were a troll
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/15 12:14 AM
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Objectively and logically I agree that promiscuous men are undesirable; because of both STDs and possible lack of capability of pair bonding. But this makes it all the more interesting that it does not seem that women care. In fact, from my experience (and perhaps others?) women will gravitate towards men that have had many partners. Thus, despite the logic of not sleeping with a promiscuous man, women want these men more than the average dude TRP would explain this as pre-selection: Women want …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/15 12:12 AM
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no made-up fallacies Not sure what you mean by made up. See link or other posts compiling in/formal fallacies. If somebody claimed that it's good to get fat and not care about your weight while being on a strict diet themselves, that would make me wary about their claims - if it's so good, why aren't they doing it? It's good that we are clearing this up here. See /u/ReddishBlack 's comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/15 12:07 AM
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Added these
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/15 12:05 AM
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Great, I'll add that image
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/15 12:02 AM
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ITT OP tries to make fun of TRPers by hinting that they are secretly all gay.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/15 10:51 PM
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much like the indian guys example, where the indian women only come to them when they are established in their careers and its time to get married. well, the white guys arent getting any children out of the deal, how biologically alpha is that anyway? No, the white guys are getting sex from the Indian women, and then will also have children with an even more attractive woman (if he wants) when he settles down. Meanwhile, the Indian guy gets a woman who has shared many first sexual experiences wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/15 10:48 PM
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Both mainstream TRP and BP have made posts about not bothering with PPD. The TRP and BPers who come here are willing to have their views challenged... Perhaps somehow encouraging BPs to directly refute TRP points would lead to more BPs. I think the mood in TBP is that TRP is wrong, and there's no need to discuss it because it's wrong just because. So not sure how exactly, but changing that mindset will = more BPs. Maybe the BPs here will have to do that themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/15 09:08 PM
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I don't think you know what sarcasm is.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/15 09:00 PM
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You just repeated what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/15 04:18 AM
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in those situations unfortunately abusers often make women think that there is no way out and that it's safest to stay with the abuser
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/15 11:16 PM
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For men is: 90% look like deformed chimpanzees and try everything to make themselves look as ugly as possible like shaving their heads or getting ghetto hair cuts and wearing ridiculously oversized clothes. For some reason they love wearing striped T-shirts with plaid shorts :/ 9% are nice smart men who know that looking good is important so they make an effort to look decent. 1% are naturally good looking. LOL imagine if I said the same thing about Black women in an African country. It's weird …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/15 11:11 PM
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You're understanding on TRP is off. See my comment: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/3fhv6l/if_theredpill_is_right_then_isnt_feminism_also/ctpbfyg
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/15 11:06 PM
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oo can i get in on this circlejerk
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/15 11:05 PM
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You are completely misunderstanding TRP if I am reading your point right. First of all: Of course TRPillers argue that this system "worked" because it made the betas work hard for society, but the thing is that just because it worked , it doesn't mean it was fair or just. Slavery also worked for several centuries but it doesn't mean it was a fair system . So is do you think TRP liked the days back then in Greece where "beta men" where kept in slavery, women had to work at the home, and only a fe…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/15 11:04 PM
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I think that unattractive women/girls have more casual sex, because they need validation and affection. Having casual sex is an easy way for an unattractive woman to feel validation and affection. Yup and the explanation for this goes back to TRP. The most attractive women can bag an "alpha" in a commitment, so don't have to sleep around to be with an alpha. Below average or average women can try to compete for an alpha's attention, but she's only going to get casual sex - not commitment. But to…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/15 10:46 PM
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The problem with arguments like this is that while you may think marriage is bad, there are other TBPers who think that marriage is good. Fine, you in particular do think that marriage is bad thing like TRP, but you don't represent all of TBP.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/15 10:41 PM
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Nah, I notice your name as someone whose been spending a good portion of her life on this subreddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/15 10:39 PM
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I have seen middle eastern guys who look white, but yeah not really Asians or Indian. But people here will definitely say it's your own fault, even if you could be a brown version of Brad Pit irl. They'll totally ignore the fact that it's not just one asian guy --- it's all asian guys that "have something wrong with them" in that they're undatable to sections of society like hot blondes.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/15 06:06 PM
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Haha and it's ironic that you're probably the type to complain that white men don't recognize their own privilege, while ignoring your own.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/15 06:03 PM
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Also interesting One in four said they would marry for money whilst 39 per cent would sleep with their boss for a promotion. And 27 per cent would have an affair with a married man, while 14 per cent would sleep with their best friend's partner. It'd be cool to see these same questions asked in a research setting, but this is not too terrible for now. The findings are similar to other research done on sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/15 06:02 PM
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Is be wary about drawing conclusions about "the SMP in the US" from this though. The Brit SMP is very different. We don't have the Christian hangover in our SMP the us has. The prudishness/Puritanism. In college towns and major cities I would say it's about as liberal sex-wise as Britain.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/15 05:58 PM
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No you haven't. You only see the existence of white male privilege and completely fail to recognize the huge white privilege that you still have as a female. Seriously, check yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/15 05:55 PM
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Check your privilege, hun. Wow that is fun to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/15 05:44 PM
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Not easiest. Easier than people if colour. Yeah that's what I said. Duh. You agree that only White Men have it easier than White Women. So you have it easier than ANY other intersectionality of race and gender, aside from White Males. Please check your goddamn privelege. And don't "whitesplain" Affirmative action to me hun. Asians are selected against routinely, everywhere while Women are promoted in the best of jobs everywhere. Every tech company I know has laxer standards for women. That's why…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/15 05:43 PM
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Of course people believe in intersectionality, but it's great that as a feminist you agree that White Woman have it easiest! So why in the hell is there Affirmative action for White Women in physics, for professorships, for internships, for computer science, for computer engineering degrees when Asians and Arabs get none? And why don't you as a feminist call that out?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/15 07:41 AM
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society has always seen women as innocent children. feminism wants to change this too. Yes, this is what feminists and feminism always say when they're called out on the fact that women have privilege in areas. YET they never take any active action against it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/15 05:13 AM
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Could be technology, could also be a change in culture. The 80's promoted free sex, drugs, alcohol and risky culture. After rampant STDs, the ban of drugs, and the lack of "free-love" culture, it might make sense that this led to less sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/15 04:47 AM
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Do you think that most people would not want to kill themselves? If yes, then how do you know that? Can you read their minds?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/15 04:20 AM
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Who knows, maybe feminists want to start a war against males from cultures that they perceive as misogynist. This point stands because although black culture is fairly misogynistic (at least as much as most Western Asian Culture), it's perceived as discriminated against UNLIKE asian and middle eastern culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/15 04:15 AM
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/u/ramjeet2 this is actually a fucking intersting point. I haven't noticed this till now, but you might actually be on to a trend, just from my memory. In Liberal States I see a fuckload of WM/AF but none WF/AM. In the MidWest/Southern states, I think it might be more balanced.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/15 04:12 AM
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PPD IRC in which an Asian maintained that Asians living in the U.S. usually go for other Asians...no. Cool, if we're talking stats, you do also realize that asian women (OUT OF ALL RACES OF WOMEN) like white men the most, and are the least likely to date within their own race?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/15 04:04 AM
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LOL do you know how to make a man feel better? Tell him he's an exotic lay and not a boring partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/15 04:02 AM
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I mean that in the scenarios that they investigated, perhaps all could have been too disorderly to have enacted any significant WCF. It's like if you tried to measure the effect of using bigger bait by fishing in a pond with no fish. You would conclude: the use of bigger bait did not correlate with the number of fish caught. In this scenario, the smart critiquer would have asked: well, was it possible to catch fish in the first place? In this scenario, we totally lack a positive control: that is…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/15 07:17 AM
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This isn't the same as a "no true scotsman" because there is actually relative consensus on what an "ideal" rper would be. Of course many who are RPer could very well act different.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/15 07:07 AM
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Pretty good. There is one part that does diverge. And that is because TRP is ultimately a practical guide - not a social justice movement. A pure TRPer wouldn't even bother arguing with a BPer or be on PPD. They'd ignore the moral criticism from the other side, and use the practical advice they've obtained to better their life.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/15 06:45 AM
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So you'd agree with the sexual dynamic parts of TRP and therefore a good percentage of TRP stuff? And yeah there are people contending that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/15 06:41 AM
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I thought the same about the terminology at first, but I do think it's somewhat necessary. What word instead would you use for Alpha and Beta? The thing is, their description of individuals is slightly different than anything I can think of a synonym for.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/15 06:38 AM
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Our PC culture does. Go on a talkshow and say that "women are actually smarter than men". Applause. Now say the opposite. You will never appear on TV again. Our culture has trained us to applaud like monkeys in public for specific subsections of society.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/15 06:36 AM
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No you still don't get it. I'm saying that they don't have a single datapoint in which the evacuation was orderly enough in order to make some trend between order and Women/Children escaping.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/15 06:33 AM
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You didn't read my reply at all. The study assumes that the ships that sank slower had enough order to enact an orderly evacuation in addition to WCF. And it's very possible that in all 16 evacuations of very large vessels, an orderly escape wasn't possible, nevermind WCF.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/15 05:48 AM
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It lines up perfectly. He always wants to take the high road. Haha yup. Everyone tells him to move on from the girl: He stays with her. TRP obliges to punish those sending nasty PMs: He admits he was wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/15 05:42 AM
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Okay /u/CursedLemon. How in the world can /u/chazzALB (36yo virgin) get laid if it's so easy? I'll hold your breath for your miraculous advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/15 05:27 AM
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I'm not sure if you're: Trying to humble brag You're being a dick You don't want to admit that you're wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/15 05:26 AM
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I don't subscribe to the idea of "involuntary celibacy" You completely lack the ability to empathize with probably 60% of the male population. Getting laid consistently is fucking hard for most guys, unless you commit to a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/15 05:24 AM
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It's natural that some people have low sex drives. Sex drive is on a continuum with some being extremely horny, and some being not horny at all. Do you identify as asexual?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/15 05:21 AM
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Haha yeah. I've always found it funny how TRP and rad sex are polar opposites in theory, yet practically arrived at the same conclusion: "fuck monogamy, and girls, go sleep with the hottest guys you can find."
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/15 05:20 AM
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Yup. And TRP is UNCENSORED in the way that they can do this. A woman might instinctively know that dread turns her on, but of course she would never say that. She would focus in on "politically correct" things like "being nice" or having a good sense of humor.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/15 05:17 AM
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To be fair, this marks a bit of a shift in culture. TRP is a changing thing. It's maturing and, with that comes a call for more objectivity and debate. 2 years ago, it was definitely more of an echo chamber.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/15 05:14 AM
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The only thing women (or men) hate more than offensive lies about them? Offensive truths. Also, it's the fact that women hate men who use "relationship guides" https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/3byicw/even_if_trp_was_100_sjwfriendly_they_would_still/ https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/3bvlik/question_for_women_imagine_if_you_found_out_your/
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/15 05:07 AM
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The answer is no, since women's relative survivability appears to be independent of the level of panic. The problem with this study is that they simply might not have found a correlation because they didn't include any wrecks orderly enough. What's to say that of the 16 wrecks included in this study, they were all too chaotic to allow for men to have an orderly "women and children first mentality". Most wrecks aren't like the titanic: they are people running for their goddamn lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/15 05:04 AM
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I'm sure he dated someone great after me. So you don't know? Can't you just check his fb profile?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 09:50 PM
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The hilarious part is: the BP's proud to have found a slutty, adventurous woman for her wife doesn't realize that she was banging guys, exactly like RP guys, in her prime.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 09:44 PM
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So you have a fetish for awkward guys. Should the conclusion I take from this to be: be awkward and look for the 1/million girl, ie: you, or improve and not be awkward and be attractive to literally every girl else.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 09:39 PM
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And he never dated a girl at your level again. Even your tone makes it sound like an act of charity.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 09:37 PM
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Yup, and even if the SMVs were equal, the woman's getting laid a lot more than the man. There are a lot of thirsty guys out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 09:35 PM
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But how in the fack would you know what your girlfriend did with a previous partner anyway? Pretty easily, from friends of friends. There was an infamous /r/relationships thread a while back with this scenario.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 05:27 AM
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lol that's not an asian thing, that's an immigrant thing. 2nd generation asian parents are usually as lax as white ones
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 05:17 AM
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That's what a harcore christian would say to a gay person.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/15 08:50 PM
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Asian male, would change to White.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/15 08:17 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFD_WVKZ1dA
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/15 08:16 PM
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a girl is empowered to choose the guy who best satisfies her sexual urges, and sometimes, that happens to be the guy who is selfish, unpredictable, cunning, and aggressive. Agree, and we should feel free to extend that logic to men and women who feel sexual attractiveness to certain subsets of society. Even if it's an RPer who liked 18 year old asian girls, as cringey as that might be. (related discussion)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/15 08:15 PM
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Usually these posts just list white women because the data is there that white women are less attracted to asian men. I doubt op has a white girl fetish. But to be clear, he should also list latina and black dating stats which usually also has a negative (though less pronounced) bias against asian guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/15 08:05 PM
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LOL sounds racist, but that's not a bad idea. brb gonna buy a yoga mat and memorize some Buddhist quotes
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/15 08:03 PM
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it's like if some random deranged man hating lesbian called herself a feminist, but feminists said he wasn't. it isn't the deranged man hating lesbian opinion that matters, but the feminist community. Yup, that proves my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/15 07:53 PM
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Similar experience to you. Yes, the more attractive asian you are the easier it is to get with those of other races. However, the girls of non-asian races that you can hook up are usually less attractive than an Asian girl that would have required the same amount of effort. In reality, women are quite racist in their dating preferences against men. Probably way more racist in general than men. There are plenty of women who will flat out say that they will never date an asian man, and sometimes b…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/15 07:46 PM
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some rpers might say they like rok, but i have not heard trp saying that they are rok, which is the statement that matters. it's like if some random hobo called himself a doctor, but the medical society said he wasn't. it isn't the hobo's opinion that matters, but the medical community.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/15 07:35 PM
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What you have to do now is save this thread for the next time BPs argue tht the wall does exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/15 07:33 PM
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it was an analogy in the form of "you don't go to place X if you don't have a problem that place X solves. i'm not saying their unhealthy. i'm saying that the reason they go to TRP is because they have trouble with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/15 07:29 PM
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rok is shit and not trp
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/15 07:28 PM
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Probably more than the average of Reddit. You don't go to hospital when you're healthy. I would say the actual posts on TRP though are mostly from users of higher SMV though, judging by the content.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/15 05:29 AM
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Yup, I take the sum of the research Ive seen
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/15 05:25 AM
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Yeah TRP is very different than RoK/PUA which many people confuse as the same. RoK and PUA is full of bullshit not designed to actually help young males, but make money off them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/15 05:23 AM
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I claim that we should not generalize from our personal experiences at all. I slightly disagree with this. We actually have a good intuition for sensing general patterns around us, including the behavior of others. Of course, it's much better to look at studies. Of the ones that I've seen on PPD and TRP, most have confirmed or supported a TRP belief.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/15 02:32 AM
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For nature VS nurture, check this out from the TRP sidebar: https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/1vuho8/the_documentary_that_made_scandinavians_cut_all/ Those documentaries interview scientists who convincingly demonstrate that nature and nurture are both important, but nature has a far greater effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/15 02:30 AM
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Yes sorry, let me rephrase. It will never help and can only harm. They don't care that you had to work out for an hour every other day to get your current body. But they will look down on you for using steroids.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/15 02:24 AM
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Manipulation is a very grey area. In a previous thread, I asked how they'd feel if they found out their SO was using a dating guide (without any misogyny). They felt it was manipulative. https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/3bppm2/thought_experiment_for_women/ https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/3byicw/even_if_trp_was_100_sjwfriendly_they_would_still/ The point is, even the slightest thing that will throw women off of being able to detect a natural Alpha <sup>TM</sup…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/15 12:54 AM
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TRP will tell you that a woman couldn't give less of a shit how you got to where you are. Whether you have a chiseled body because of genetics, or because you got into Stanford med because of connections, it's all the same to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/15 08:15 PM
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They'll hold things they don't like such as gender roles and even gender itself to be social constructs, but things like morality to be universal absolutes. Preach. This is a problem with gender and some cultural studies in general
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/15 08:12 PM
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Then you find red pill, its disgusting, you close it and laugh at them, but then it predicts every. single. action. Haha, this exactly. I dont read TRP because I'm in love with misogony - that's the turn off. I keep reading it because it keeps being pretty damn accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/15 06:17 PM
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Funny you should ask. Women already lie about their partner count, and have been for decades. This ask women thread is a great example: https://archive.is/ol4Ui#selection-3043.0-3052.0 Anyways, this situation is a bit different then a "man's manipulation". Say I was coaching a girl to get the best mate possible, yeah I'd tell her to lie if there was no way to get caught. The difference between lying about partner count and manipulating with behavior is that one day the man could find out, and ev…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/15 06:14 PM
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But I'm sure some friend must know about one girl's hook-up history if it's that bad. Unless she's been hooking up in a vacuum.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/15 06:09 PM
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Umm yeah of course there are natural alpha males.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/15 06:08 PM
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Not sure why people are downvoting me. Anyways yeah that previous study was in 1989 and an old data set. That survey in itself had ~300 people per culture as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/15 06:01 PM
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Oh my god. I've just realized. Identifying as a feminist is the ultimate shit test for a man.
/r/TheRedPill19/07/15 06:57 AM
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Just because something's unlawful doesn't make it justified. Your best friends slamming your girl for the past two months while they all played you? I can empathize with his reaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/15 06:55 AM
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After writing this up, I realized that what she's describing is being a plate. Yup. It sounds like she's an alpha widow, who has experienced a guy exactly as she's describing. She misses being a plate - rather than a partner in a relationship - because she recognizes that only in a dynamic of a plate, can she maximize her time with an alpha. If she wants a relationship, she'll have to settle for some less exciting beta.
/r/TheRedPill19/07/15 06:52 AM
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http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22933455 That is the scientific study referenced by Time 3,177 participants from 10 nations, from internet "surveys" So an average of just over 300 people per nation, surveyed through the internet. Not the most representative. Even worse is the following critique of that study: By not distinguishing among mate preferences, Zentner and Mitura committed a form of the ecological fallacy-making false conclusions about individual mate preferences when looking only a…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/15 06:42 AM
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But you don't have any proof that she skewed her data nor any other data refuting hers, do you?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/15 06:26 AM
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You can replace marriage here with ltr
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/15 06:26 AM
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Yeah I think divorce rate is 50%, but a minority of divorcees make up the divorces. Usually it's a marriage with a variety of risk factors like being really young and poor. These marriages easily fall apart. Then, these young individuals marry and then get divorced again.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/15 05:01 AM
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obviously the bottom
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/15 04:59 AM
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Personally, this is no problem for me. But from a utilitarian point of view, the current setup that we're going for is leading to a net decrease in happiness for many people. Women can't marry men that make more than them Men and women are left unmarried But as I said, I don't care that much about society and this current trend benefits almost solely: Men who make good, decent money So I'm fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/15 04:50 AM
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I would argue that it's a bit above social constructs as well. Money is power in our society, and "power" and "status" is a huge influence on a man's SMV. A millionaire women, who LTRed a 6-pack, unemployed hotty could still be dating down.
/r/MensRights19/07/15 04:34 AM
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Yeah /u/mushybees stop being irrational. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/15 04:26 AM
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Then show a different study supporting your position.
/r/MensRights19/07/15 04:20 AM
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The irony is that the men that most women want to marry... won't. He'll be dating young, hot women as long as he can... because he can. The beauty of personal choice in a sexually liberalized country.
/r/MensRights19/07/15 04:19 AM
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This is why TRP tells you to self improve. The majority of men will get pissed at this. Those that make a top amount will benefit. The rich gets richer and apparently more marriage potential.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/15 04:16 AM
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(see: polygamy). Gay marriage is "morally questionable" according to conservatives and religious groups. So is polyamory and BDSM stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/15 10:57 PM
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Strange. I don't find lurking on subs that I don't believe in to be entertaining. It's like being atheist and going on Christian and Islamic subreddits to be "entertaining".
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/15 03:07 PM
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I got that knee jerk reaction as well. Guaranteed though, if you read more than a few hours of the stuff, some of it starts clicking. Then you start ignoring the pseudoscience and just focus in on their analysis of social dynamics. And then you decide TRP is pretty damn useful.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/15 02:12 PM
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Well that 1% must really be worth it to spend your time just searching for wisdom in that small, small percentage of RP comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/15 02:11 PM
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I think it's fine. People can always just poise questions as purple discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/15 02:07 PM
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Lol so you know those women's emotions better than they do? #mansplaining
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/15 02:01 PM
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I'm sure some guys actually don't care about partner count, but the key word here is declare, implying that he has to let everyone know how little he cares about partner count. This is done to reaffirm your feminist cred and get pussy points. In public, this is what I'd do to get social cred.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/15 02:00 PM
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The following is an excerpt that I've taken from the article, which is consistent to things taught at my intro to gender studies courses. Monogamy meant I controlled her sexual expression, and, not to get all women’s-studies major about it, patriarchal oppression essentially boils down to a man’s fear that a woman with sexual agency is a woman he can’t control. We aren’t afraid of their intellect or their spirit or their ability to bear children. We are afraid that when it comes time for sex, th…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/15 10:17 PM
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The following is an excerpt that I've taken from the article, which is consistent to things taught at my intro to gender studies courses. Monogamy meant I controlled her sexual expression, and, not to get all women’s-studies major about it, patriarchal oppression essentially boils down to a man’s fear that a woman with sexual agency is a woman he can’t control. We aren’t afraid of their intellect or their spirit or their ability to bear children. We are afraid that when it comes time for sex, th…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/15 10:16 PM
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/u/Sleela17 you may live in Texas, but /u/Torquelewith12 has actually gone to the uni in question. And almost all college campuses have relatively the same culture these days. This includes being hyper liberal.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/15 10:09 PM
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It isn't what she signed up for That makes no sense. This implies that no one is allowed to change from the moment they get married, because that's not the what the other person signed up for.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/15 10:06 PM
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That kind of relationship happens orders of magnitude less often than TRP thinks it does. The fact that it happens at all is good enough reason to treat every gun as loaded.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/15 09:55 PM
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I just think the comparison of women = gun is a little extreme. It's an analogy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/15 09:54 PM
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It would if TRPers would gay. TRP would say, remember all men you date are human and have the possibility to betray you. This is something we reiterate a ton of times, and I'm pretty sure /u/Will_Im_Not, you were here for many of the times we did. TRP says everyone is human. TRP concentrates on women because that's who they're trying to attract.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/15 09:52 PM
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Social dominance isn't necessarily attractive. Alpha can mean attractive or socially dominant Dude you're not familiar with TRP terms at all. Alpha isn't just "alpha as in the pack leader of dogs". An alpha male definitely includes being attractive, successful, socially successful, and having a certain frame.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/15 09:49 PM
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The linked comment also talks about women fucking you over at some point. Is he talking about women breaking up with men? It could include that, yes. Especially if it's a LTR that you trust, that's you think is different than all other women in that she will love you no matter what, and never betray you ie: a unicorn.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/15 09:47 PM
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They are assholes in your opinion, but not in the opinion of the woman that are being dated. And that's the one that matters. ex: priest saying that gays are okay with dating gays, but that doesn't mean I can't criticize sinners and f***.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/15 09:30 PM
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They'd have to be really crazy not to get any dates though. I mean maybe they get a guy a a bit less attractive, or another crazy guy, but craziness doesn't seem to be that big of a deterrent if they're cute.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/15 09:28 PM
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Agree with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/15 09:27 PM
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It's interesting that no one here so far has cast this as emotional abuse. Imagine if this was a stay at home mom whose husband cheated on her, and told her to accept it based on some ideology. Everyone would be up in arms about how this woman has been conditioned to accepting this abuse, and how she's forced in this position, given that she is a housewife.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/15 09:21 PM
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hand-picked sentences Yup I handpicked the paragraphs where he referenced feminist theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/15 09:19 PM
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Seem's you've missed the important part of my previous reply. No worries, I'll just repaste it for you. Anyways, if you read the article it doesn't matter if it was written by a man or a woman. It uses feminist theory to argue that women should be allowed to sexually express themselves, even if they were orignally in a monogomous marriage. It's because "feminism comes back to sex". Feminism always comes back to sex, even when we’re talking about everything else. The point isn’t that all women sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/15 06:46 PM
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Except it only seems extreme in its application; not it's theory. The following is an excerpt that I've taken from the article, which is consistent to things taught at my intro to gender studies courses. Monogamy meant I controlled her sexual expression, and, not to get all women’s-studies major about it, patriarchal oppression essentially boils down to a man’s fear that a woman with sexual agency is a woman he can’t control. We aren’t afraid of their intellect or their spirit or their ability t…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/15 06:44 PM
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I am pretty confident in saying that this is not what most feminists occupy their time campaigning for And I agree. But what the original article is arguing is that the ultimate form of feminism is allowing the woman to decide her sexual expression. Even if the man does not benefit from the open relationship, feminism is about allowing female freedom of sex, even at the expense of a husband who preferred monogomous sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/15 06:39 PM
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Feminism always comes back to sex, even when we’re talking about everything else. The point isn’t that all women should be sexual adventurers. Celibacy is as valid an expression of sexuality as profligacy. The point is that it should be women who choose, not men — even the men they’re married to. It is an open relationship, but he's arguing that true feminism is letting the woman decide her sexual expression. Even if the man does not benefit from the open relationship, feminism is about allowing…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/15 06:32 PM
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You have to be an idiot to think that this is "an example of a man who has truly become a feminist" Looking at when you posted, it took you four minutes to read the entirety of the post, article and type up your reply. So it makes it kinda hard to believe that you somehow determined that this post "wasn't written by a man". It's ironic that you're calling me the idiot who put in low effort. Anyways, if you read the article it doesn't matter if it was written by a man or a woman. It uses feminist…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/15 06:29 PM
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Because neuroscience/mol gen actually disprove their points. lol really? please tell me a study on molecular genetics that disprove anythign related to human behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/15 05:50 PM
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Do you think that growing up in a family where you had a shorter dad made you more open to being with a shorter man? You are very rare to have most of the guys that you've dated to be shorter. At least of all the women I've seen in my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/15 06:34 AM
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This wasn't an attempt to be scientific and get accurate numbers. But just telling from the average height of men vs women (2 inches difference) we would expect women who have posted here at around an average height for a female, to have a decent selection of short guys. Probably a woman at 5'7 we'd expect at least 1 guy shorter to her to 3 guys taller. We definitely see a lower ratio than that here however.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/15 06:33 AM
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No girls say they don't mind, but look at the numbers who have actually dated guys shorter than them. Look at what people do, not necessarily what they say. Ultimately, the most useful thing you can get out of this is the ratio between what women will say is okay (dating short men) and the fact that not many have actually done so, or to a large extent. That being said, that's not a reason to give up. Yes, you drew a bad hand. But that's part of life - making do with what you've got.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/15 01:55 AM
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Thanks for the reply!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/15 01:51 AM
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Ah so the old mantra about being big and Texas is true.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 09:04 PM
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When you live in a populated area, it doesn't really matter. It's like how gays have only 5% of the dating population but they still get laid dozens to 100's of times a year.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 09:03 PM
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Also, people who identify as PPers generally see that that RP describes relationship dynamics more accurately than mostly anything else, but of course doesn't believe that men and women are literally "all like that". They probably are also PP because they are turned off by the sexism on TRP as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 09:01 PM
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I'm 5'7; I've only met a handful of guys shorter than that, one of which is my brother. Really? Where do you live?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 08:58 PM
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Would you date a girl who was on the overweight side?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 08:56 PM
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Thanks for the reply!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 08:56 PM
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Thanks for the reply
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 08:55 PM
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Thanks for the reply.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 08:55 PM
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Thanks for answering the question
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 08:55 PM
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Haha yeah. If I didn't put that disclaimer to ignore the contreversy on BMI I'd suspect I get 10 posters about BMI and therefore claiming that this question was somehow invalid.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 08:54 PM
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Yup, that's why I tried asking for the percentage of guys that were actually shorter that they've dated. As I suspected, although some girls say that they're open to it, most have only dated taller guys and maybe hooked up with someone their height.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 08:53 PM
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Whoa so you've dated guys 6 feet and over only?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 08:51 PM
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I'm not bothered but more confused. Being fat is unattractive regardless of the gender. It is. But I'm looking at one of the most common dealbreakers for each sex. For men, the thing that'll turn them off most is the woman being fat. For women, I would argue that women are open to dating someone overweight, rather than someone slightly shorter than them. Being fat is definitely a deal breaker, but being short is probably the biggest deal breaker for women. I don't disagree that you personal pref…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 06:16 PM
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TBP: Haha, look at the RP boys being stupid. I have to disagree with this part. It really doesn't capture the obsessive nature of BPers. Like the time dozens of them laughed at a 17 year old for following RP, using protection for sex, and having a girlfriend two years younger.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 06:12 PM
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As I said in the reply to the other post: I am not equating the two. I just see those two things as common dealbreakers for each sex and was curious for both. If it bothers you that the two questions are in the same thread, just imagine that I asked these questions in separate threads.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 06:05 PM
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Question's a bit unfair, Yup, I didn't design the questions to be "fair" (I think you mean equal) for both males and females. I just see those two things as common dealbreakers for each sex and was curious for both. If it bothers you that the two questions are in the same thread, just imagine that I asked these questions in separate threads.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 06:03 PM
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It's not just a music festival. It's literally a sprung up hippy commune. There's always hype about how people are extremely sexually open there, but I'm not sure how many people are banging, in reality. Here is a thread about the orgy tents: https://www.reddit.com/r/sex/comments/1ynn1j/has_anyone_here_been_inside_the_orgy_tent_at/ https://www.reddit.com/r/BurningMan/comments/2fujxw/burning_man_orgy_dome_stories_2014/
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 06:00 PM
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It is almost anywhere. When you get rejected for approaching literally everywhere however, you have to realize what the common denominator is. It might not be the location, and just might be the person approaching.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 05:53 PM
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You are still both about following a "formula" to get or to interact with women, even though the NG formula is different from the RP formula. I would disagree that TRP is a formula and would argue that you don't really have a grasp on this subreddit if you do. It's not a PUA site. It's literally: "improve yourself, you worthless piece of shit. And if you don't, then don't." People, and yes that includes women, are dicks. Don't let yourself be screwed over by someone and remember to stay guarded.…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 05:51 PM
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My response: I am a guy. TBH I have found any woman IRL that weighed more than me that I've been attracted to. To be clear, I'm not a "fattist" or anything. It's just that I've literally had to sexual desire for them, similar to how I don't have sexual desire for men or a lamp.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 05:46 PM
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I'm actually an asshole. So I'd be happy that TRP is shutdown before it gets mainstream. Less competition for me :) But in reality it's naive to think that burning down the church burns down a religion. What I mean by that is, the TRPers will just find a different platform and reorganize there. If anything, /u/strongalfalfa and other BPers should be against TRP banning. All it'll do is let TRP gain mainstream and widespread attention. All of reddit will see it, and those who hate the new reddit …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 05:33 PM
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All of Italy is a tourist resort for Italians
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 05:11 AM
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Spin plates till 35 then wife up.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 05:06 AM
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Yup. I've watched it multiple times. It really goes in depth about the gender dynamics this sub discusses over and over again. A lot of discussion could be saved if people just watched this video. I've posted this video here before, because it is that relevant and pretty well done and specfically explores "Why do girls tend to go into empathizing professions and boys into systemizing professions" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hjernevask Think of it this way: it'll take the average person 2.5 hou…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/15 03:19 PM
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They say it will disrupt the sexual market too much Those TRPers don't. I wouldn't mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/15 03:13 PM
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She's right: https://vimeo.com/19707588
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/15 03:06 PM
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we Italians are lazy slackers and we spend our days guzzling cappuccino and strolling down the main Street rather than working. lol that's an obvservation. i've been to Italy
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/15 03:05 PM
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Italians are also the most likely to have spaghetti in their pockets, yet still got game. How do you explain that?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/15 03:03 PM
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Secondly, we can't have the Woman A and Woman B on separate islands. This is because in order for evolution to happen, there needs to be more than one genotype available. Okay so this is the part where we disagree. Yeah, if the tribes aren't separated at any time, then a family line that makes more males will just have all their males end up mating with a family that has more females, and the resulting progeny will likely have their progeny at a 50:50 sex ratio. But in reality, human civilizatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/15 02:47 PM
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It looks butthurt, but not to other slut shamers and people who's culture is against sluts. It disguises being butthurt as a sense of morality. If a dude says you shouldn't sleep with everyone you see because of "family values" and that's not what Jesus would want, a large portion of the public would agree and not see him as butthurt.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/15 02:38 PM
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Well when you count organized religion and culture, then the number of men goes up. As far as snarky, judgey gossiping, yeah I guess you can say that woman slut shame in that way more.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/15 02:36 PM
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Yup. And probably because they're jealous of all the attention those other "slut" females are getting.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/15 02:35 PM
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i broke her
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/15 04:58 AM
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Probably. I'd say 80% of the slut shaming comes from those (mainly men) who are jealous that they're not getting any.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/15 02:38 AM
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Yup and he still didn't say he was just concerned about her health. Your logic is if I say I like pie 4 times, that means I just like pie. It's pretty clear that OP does feel ashamed, other than health reasons, that his sister has slept with many men. But the point of this article is that, isn't the health risk alone enough to justify BPs taking a stronger stance against sleeping with everyone?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/15 02:37 AM
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What about being a Dr
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/15 02:32 AM
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Just concerned about her health! He never said he was just concerned about her health. 15 minutes in, and we've found our first strawman.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/15 02:30 AM
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It's amazing. I wish I had omnipotent knowledge like you. I don't know how you do it, but tell me how you know that the majority of buyers of 50 shades bought it because they hated it? And if that were true, why aren't shitty books the most popular kind of books if everyone liked to buy shitty books?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/15 02:22 AM
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I'm not Red Pill and don't believe in AWALT literally. But it seems that you've conceded my previous point was right: many women do have submissive fantasies, as echoed by their taste in erotic literature.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/15 02:20 AM
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I think so one day. TRP probably doesn't deserve to be banned, but TBPers will convince the general community otherwise. It'll just use that collection of quotes that they got out of context, that were sarcastic, or made by new accounts and use that as proof that TRP supports any forms of abuse against women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/15 02:19 AM
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It's like being "fired" or being "let go". At the end of they day, you're obsolete. One just sounds nicer.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 10:30 PM
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if it were true
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 10:25 PM
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I think that your focalization on this shit just belittles victims of actual abuse. And I think your apathy for books that celebrate the abuse of children belittles victims of abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 10:23 PM
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Statistically. I'm higher on this graph than all of you.[1] Lol you're literally suggesting people listen to your advice because you have a big penis. Statistically. House hold income puts us at the 3%. Meaning that if I were to run into 100 randomized people. We would earn more than 97% of them. Top 3% is 200k? I make more than top 1.5% on my own. And stop bragging about your wife's income. I mean the fact that you mention it on every post instead of just mentioning your own income shows how in…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 10:18 PM
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Anyway, don't know why you didn't address the scenario I brought up about two brothers. You flipped the sexes. It's abusive when it's two girls, a boy and a girl, and two boys. I don't know how you can phrase this as curiosity when the author in retrospect relishes her acts by self-describing herself as a "sexual predator". This isn't an "innocent child" not knowing sexual boundaries. This sounds more closer to someone who knows exactly what they're doing, and abusing someone who doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 10:01 PM
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possibly
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 09:51 PM
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...and also making fun of him for dating someone 2 years younger and for using protection.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 09:50 PM
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I am open. I base my general idea of things on research I've read, and some that's posted here and TRP. I do think that TRP has the general concepts of male-female dynamics right, but I'm not going to bend over backwards to defend all aspects of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 09:47 PM
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Okay, this is our first diagreement so let's work this out: IF there were no external challenges, evolution would select for a low male:female ratio, because females take a long time to make babies You are assuming that evolution will act to maximize the reproductive output of the group here rather than the individual. Do you disagree that's what you are doing here Yes I disagree. This is definitely a trait that can be passed on to the individual. Imagine two populations on two different islands…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 09:41 PM
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Yup, a short summary of just the main points will definitely lead to more replies, OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 09:29 PM
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Women are the main buyers of male-on-male erotic fiction on Amazon. Like this: Yup and the number of women who buys male on male erotic fiction is way less than the people who buy traditional 50 shades of grey-esque erotica. Remember 50 shades was one of the fastest selling books of all time. But yes, I agree that there are definitely some women into that dinosaur sex, gay male sex, and step brothers. But if you agree that erotic fiction is the litmus test for female sexual desire, then you have…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 09:28 PM
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There's a large group who bought it/read it to make fun of it. funniest thing I've read read in a while, thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 09:24 PM
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I think I never loved any of my ex's, it was all lust. I had a really high sex drive in my high school-college years, there was usually some type of sexual activity at every date with these girls. Just the normal process of losing your libido. Nothing wrong with wanting to settle down. The other side of TRP is married and applies TRP for that
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 05:46 AM
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/u/_provocatrice: And he says he'll wear a condom when they have sex. Because WOMEN ALL OVER THE COUNTRY ARE PURPOSELY FORGETTING TO TAKE THEIR BIRTH CONTROL PILLS. That is seriously his concern! I'd call him an idiot, but I also think that people shouldn't be mean to children.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 05:41 AM
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The only thing more pathetic than TRP is the BP parody/mocking of it. I mean at least TRP is trying to improve their condition. TBP spends their time obsessing over what "terpers do"... and apparently 17 year old kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 05:40 AM
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We're making fun of teens that want to improve themselves with TRP. lol so a bunch of 30 year olds with kids are mocking a 17 year kid and calling him a "little terpie" because the best dating advice he's found so far is TRP? And because he's dating someone 2 years younger?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 05:37 AM
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You kind of skipped over my points, and just repeated yours again. Okay, evolutionarily we selected for 50:50 ratio of men to women IF there were no external challenges, evolution would select for a low male:female ratio, because females take a long time to make babies This CAN be selected for by evolution. Pretend there's no external stresses again. Imagine a mother has genes that make her tend to reproduce more women. More women = more progeny passed down the line, as men work quickly in terms…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 05:25 AM
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I wouldn't classify you. You just have a different sexuality that isn't applicable to the heterosexual sexual marketplace. It's like how gay guys aren't debated on whether people consider them alpha or beta.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 04:47 AM
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Yup heard of asexual groups at college.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 04:45 AM
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Yup that's the part where TRP diverges. Remember that TRP's main goal is to maximize the success of the male in question, so obviously if you commit and devote to one woman, you're putting all your eggs in one basket. TRP tells you instead that the optimal solution is to maximize your status/attractiveness. This gives you the most amount of options and plates, if you're into that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 04:44 AM
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It's weird, but abusive? I'm not so sure. Okay imagine a 7 year old boy experiments with his sister's vagina when she was 1. And does a whole "spectrum" of other sexual acts, not mentioned. Then at age 13, (grade 8 - freshman high school) he bribes his sister to kiss him with "anything a sexual predator might do", kissing his sister for "prolonged periods" and using her as a "sexual outlet" in a "spectrum" of things she might do. Now at age 17, do you think it's abusive if this boy, with this hi…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 04:35 AM
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funnily enough, many econ profs and econ journals has relationship research
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 04:28 AM
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Edward def had options. All the other girls in the class wanted that. The other two novels I haven't heard of, but you have to admit that they're way less known/popular than 50 shades. also find intelligent, loving, loyal, devoted men sexually arousing. Intelligent, loyal and devoted (to passions) are TRP. Loving is very guarded for terpers, but is reserved for those they think are worthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 04:25 AM
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Mmm my bad, I admit I skimmed it when I only so biology at the start. As for a biological reason for male disposability I can see that as a possibility: You are correct that we have evolutionarily selected for 50:50 ratio of men to women We should not that, in terms of reproduction, the rate determining step is female. It takes a long time for females to give birth, and little time for males to do there thing. Thus, if we would expect a system that maximized solely for reproduction (with no stre…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 04:22 AM
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mix of femdom, maledom and normal sex. wow so rad and progressive. vry advanced sexual tastes
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 04:11 AM
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This does not mean that the majority of women read erotic romance novels. No, but a good percentage do. 50 shades was one of the fastest selling books of all time. I would argue that it does say something about the sexual preferences of many females.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 04:10 AM
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all of the heroes in romance novels (aka female porn) are absolutely, 100% BESOTTED with the main character. Yeah, that happens after the main alpha hero shows little interest in the girl. It also happens after it's established that the alpha has many, many other options. The fantasy is a man having many options, but choosing girl x because she's special to him. For all of the things you listed to apply, you'd have to be that alpha first. And that's what trp is for.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 04:02 AM
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You mean echo chambers? Maybe one day you'll realize that the biggest echo chamber is inside your own head
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 03:56 AM
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I'm not going to be beholden to an echo chamber of /r/fitness[4] . Because you're wrong. Your own source says you build muscle faster still using low reps, high weight. (And they're just talking about 15 reps). Lol, no you stupidly suggested doing up to 100 reps if that's what it took to get you tired. See what happens if you post that to any fitness/body building forum. You don't have to take my word for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 03:48 AM
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Okay I'm sorry, I'll believe you if you ask /r/Fitness whether it's a viable work out strategy to do 15 pound curls to failure, if you fail after 100 reps.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 03:37 AM
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Okay he's is terrible at bed and he's not interesting. And here's the part where you stubbornly admit that women have general hookup preferences and yeah of course a woman would rather sleep with someone attractive versus someone unattractive. qed
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 03:34 AM
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lol doing 100 curls. please post this to /r/Fitness.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 03:31 AM
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Oh sorry I was mistaken. Girls like to hook up with a built jock as much as a really skinny dude who plays League all day right?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 03:24 AM
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no it doesn't. there are men who like neither. anyways the number is around 13% on fetlife (a fetish community site). the number would probably be lower in the regular community. That 13% is very generous btw as it counts users who identify as tops and bottoms, as well as includes a range of sexual identities (like masochists). http://imgur.com/a/tLcWL https://www.reddit.com/r/BDSMcommunity/comments/355ydi/is_there_any_survey_or_statistics_on_the_ratio_of/.compact
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 03:19 AM
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So you agree with all those points, but your objection is that it's some and not all men/women that are like that. That's fair. Because in different places, you'll get more or less of a hook up culture. But as long as there's a very strong one, who do you think all the girls are going to hook up with? Obviously the "alpha", good-looking, popular, smart, jock. Who do you think all those girls (that were part of the hook up culture) will marry? Probably all not the jock as polygamy is illegal. So …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 03:14 AM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/2f6l3t/you_are_disposable_the_world_does_not_care_about/ While they do mention "biology", when TRP discusses the disposable sex, they usually only mention the cultural phenomenon of male disposability (this is the only phenomenon that matters practically anyway). It references how, to this day, men are put in harm's way unlike women. Men still do the jobs that kill the most, are still expected to leave the sinking ship last, and make up the vast major…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 03:02 AM
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It is worth noting that this discussion is happening in the context of broken women. True, but it's in the context of what to do after sexual trauma. Specifically, it's encouraging young women to find: The man you want to have sex with [and] go for it! Specifically with: the alarm blaring “bad boys” [that] excites you. And then later find a stable BB. She's not saying that this behaviour (of having and Alpha men and settling for a Beta Bux) is damaging in any way. Quite the opposite, as she sugg…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 02:44 AM
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I see it a small minority of men
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 01:21 AM
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how do u know it's not women or sadists getting off to that?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 01:19 AM
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How do you know if men get off being the sub or dom in this situation that leads to popularity of cuckold?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 01:15 AM
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What does your common sense tell you
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 01:11 AM
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Some people have certain kinks Yes exactly. And some kinks are more common than others. ie: Which gender do you think likes to be dominated more?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 01:08 AM
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Actually digging into this deeper, it's far worse. For one, she masturbated while her sister slept beside her till she was 17. P28 "I shared a bed with my sister Grace until I was seventeen years old. She was afraid to sleep alone and would begin asking me around 5pm everyday whether she could sleep with me. [...] Her sticky, muscley little body thrashed beside me every night as I read Anne Sexton, watched reruns of SNL, sometimes even as I slipped my hand into my underwear to figure some stuff …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 12:50 AM
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No she was 7-13 when she did those things. One instance was when she was 7 and sister was 1 (6 yr age difference). Another instance happened when sister was 6 and therefore she was 13. Also, the tone of the entire thing is completely abhorrent. The fact that she looks back and smiles at the memories, and doesn't see anything wrong with what she did is worrying.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 12:09 AM
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No of course not, but you can have a general idea most of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 12:06 AM
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I suspect this is going to get a lot of flak, but RPers should keep in mind not to have a knee jerk negative reaction about SM presence just because you would prefer not to do it. It's like rationalizing "not lifting" because "you get laid already", (but secretly because you're just making an excuse to be lazy). Without a doubt, having a basic SM presence is key. Good profile pictures, nothing dodgy on there is the bare minimum. You can bet that when girls tell each other about the new guy they …
/r/TheRedPill14/07/15 12:05 AM
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Yes! Only one study? That's terrible! Okay. 100 studies with 100,000 participants = 0.14% of the world population. (<1%) As a biologist Impressive /s That being said you should take all research with a pinch of salt, rather than 'solid troof'. Just because a scientist said it doesn't necessarily mean it's true for everyone/thing or even true at all. In other news, the sky is blue. Your comment highlights a poor understanding of what research means. No, my comment highlights your idiotic statemen…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/15 10:17 PM
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For those of you wondering: Lena Dunham is a comedian, who has recently published some non-fiction essays where she: describes experimenting sexually with her younger sister Grace, whom she says she attempted to persuade to kiss her using “anything a sexual predator might do.” In one particularly unsettling passage, Dunham experimented with her six-year younger sister’s vagina. “This was within the spectrum of things I did,” and describes using her little sister at times essentially as a sexual …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/15 10:06 PM
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Okay. Population of earth, roughly 7 billion. Size of sample of a very, very large psychology study: let's say 100,000. 100,000/7billion = 0.000014 So according to you, wouldn't all psychology research be a generalization, given that they make an inference only based on 0.0014% of the population?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/15 09:43 PM
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lol can you imagine feminists on one side using feminist theory and trying to tell a bunch of inner-city rappers that they're sexist. How much patience do you think that they'll have for explanations on privelege and patriarchy
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/15 09:39 PM
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Okay so I think we agree that Partner Count is not the most important thing, but is a factor?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/15 09:27 PM
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No I mean the root problems (that OP mentioned) that lead men to lie. Such as if lack of sex, attraction, and willingness to be attractive when it's just the two of you (or during sex) is a problem. And if he has made similar white lies about those problems before (ie: the white lies in OP's thread). But again, to make sure that you get a straight answer, make sure that you are comfortable with hearing the truth, and then make sure that he knows that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/15 09:08 PM
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I think some BPers here don't believe that. Perhaps some promiscious women as well. A common mantra by progressive young people is that people shouldn't care about how many guys/girls you've dated previously. You can often find blogs/forums/reddit discussions where (when this is mentioned) a circlejerk breaks out where men claim they don't care about how many guys women slept with previously. Thus, it's quite possible for women to seek the answers that they hope to find: that it doesn't matter t…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/15 08:49 PM
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Of course it matters to men. But OP is saying don't bother arguing it as it's obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/15 08:46 PM
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To sluts: do what you want. Face the consequences of a significant number of men being turned off. Applies to man sluts as well. Agree To slut shamers: do what you want. Face the consequences of possibly being looked down upon by some women in your social circle. Agree What is argued is the reality of: Face the consequences of a significant number of men being turned off. By some.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/15 08:32 PM
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ah okay. good to know that popularity is just a figment of my imagination. everyone is as popular as everyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/15 08:28 PM
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Because "people who are nice and have a personality" goes hand in hand with being popular, which are generally both attractive to women. The test you can do to see if "popularity" has any effect is to try and compare in your mind a guy who was nice, but that niceness didn't end up making him that popular. While he still might be attractive for his personality, he's just not as attractive than the popular guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/15 08:22 PM
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lol no need to throw this giant fit jsut because you accidentally overcomplicated the term "skinny". cross country guys are skinny. what's so hard about that. why is this so much worth arguing about?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/15 08:19 PM
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Lol you sound like an idiot. Okay so you wouldn't describe the average competitive cross country racer as skinny?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/15 08:02 PM
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Sure there is. In any social groups, there are people that just have that charisma or people skills that lead to many people liking them. Happens at uni, at work, with friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/15 07:51 PM
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So you just like skinny guys then. Why don't you just say that? And I doubt the average person knows what the hell " bulky fusiform appearance" is. Btw, most girls don't prefer skinny cross country guys these days. They like "swimmer bodies".
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/15 07:50 PM
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I think the world would be a better (if not more interesting) place if males and females were attracted to the same sort of things in the other gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/15 07:47 PM
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Wealth I believe, because "attract" is a very loose word. But I think social status is something that many women are attracted to. I think most women tend to gravitate towards the "popular guys" in the group.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/15 07:46 PM
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that they pay for dates, Yes, I can buy that. But you have to keep in mind that those on Reddit, are more educated and wealthy than the majority of women out there. Most aren't as progressive in terms of wanting to contribute equally or in terms of not having the stereotype of "men being the breadwinner". that they always admit they're wrong, I haven't heard that before from anyone. I would doubt anyone always admits that they are wrong. I certainly don't. or how they suffer night and day from s…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/15 07:44 PM
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What if you are Ron Jeramy who goes swinging with his wife? What if you're not? (which is the majority of people) Or you are a person that rationally accepts that people can grow out of each other , people can cheat and marriages end and that's just normal , humans are not swans . You're the one who just agreed that it was a "no brainer" that a promiscuous anyone more likely to cheat. And its far better to judge people on their personality than it is their partner count Yeah, did I ever say that…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/15 07:33 PM
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Think about it this way OP. If Channing Tatum came up to almost every woman, and started talking to her/complimenting her/or offered a drink, what would happen? Would it be harassment? Would that ruin the lady's day? No of course not. It's not what you do; it's who you are. The correct (TRP) answer is: be attractive. It's not that women hate being hit on. They hate being hit on by ugly/beta/unattractive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/15 07:30 PM
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Admittedly we are not married and are not close to that stage in the slightest, Then this post does not apply to you in any way. Of course things seem easy now. You both have that spark, and are young and attracted to each other. You can share your feelings because they're mostly positive and not negative about the other. It gets tough decades down the line when you do love the other person, but are genuinely no longer attracted to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/15 07:27 PM
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If you never generalize you never get anywhere. You're just left with "everyone is different, the end".
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/15 07:26 PM
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If people agree with this, then the obvious thing to do (when looking for marriage) is to find someone has not hooked up with a long string of men. But cue in TBP rationalizations.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/15 07:21 PM
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Yeah I agree. The reason why this is never said out loud is because you would be castrated in public if you tried to say this. No man would dare say on a public forum with his real identity, but I bet many of the above Truths are relatable. To BP/PP WOMEN: I issue this challenge, if you are confident in your relationship, and have been with your SO for over 5 years (ideally over 10): ask them if any of the above things bother him, and make sure he knows that it's not a trap, that you want to kno…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/15 07:12 PM
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Yeah I agree, this is often overlooked. It's better to work on yourself instead of doing some series of overt romantic gestures to attract someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/15 04:21 AM
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Yeah. You treat her special if she's "the one" (statistically). No, the point of those sterotepyical hollywood movies is showing a nerdy dude, pining after the hottest girl in his year, that he falls in love with. And then romantic gestures, and being the girl's emotional pillow (usually after revealing some terrible secret about her, and how she hates her chad boyfriend). Finally, the nerd gets with the girl. The thing is, this is this NEVER works IRL. What happens is, the guy does all the thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/15 04:19 AM
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By all means keep trying.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/15 04:10 AM
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Some professional athletes are on Reddit. Therefore it would be a violation of policy to ask lol. >not sidestepping yeah, okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/15 04:09 AM
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true trpers aren't emotional about tht. look on those posts on trp and you'll see seniors from trp telling people to just move on, and not dwell on tath
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/15 04:01 AM
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Do you think that your daughter should do jail time? How severe of a sentence do you think this deserves?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/15 03:58 AM
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Hmm what about the 80/20 rule do you not agree with? How about if I asked what % of guys can go out, and consistently hook up with someone at a bar or club? Would you say that it is definitely less than, or around, 20%?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/15 03:56 AM
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Lol for the same reason different feminst groups, different islamic groups, different fan fiction groups attack each other. They have different interpretations of ideas.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/15 02:07 AM
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Step 1: Claim a Feminist Identity One of the tools that has been used by feminists for decades are their disparate ideology that ranges from fair to extreme. If a particular group of feminists get backlash for going too extreme too fast, then they just say they're extremists. Thus, the best approach is to claim, right off, that your a feminist. So long as your ideas sound half-coherent, your right to that claim is as valid as almost anyone else. By having that identity of "feminism" this grants …
/r/TheRedPill12/07/15 01:20 AM
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Just ask the author if they'd be willing to let a few people see the article for this forum. Usually they're quite willing to share their work.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/15 01:15 AM
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Sorry, but this in no way conrols for the problem I brought up. The problem is that this couple, presumably, has had sex at a baseline rate which was were they were naturally satisfied. If you change that rate, and force the couple to double the amount of sex they have, obviously the partner that did not want sex that often will not find it pleasant. The other partner will, of course, sense that as well, and it will not be pleasant when you know your partner's just not into it. If you want to kn…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/15 01:13 AM
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Lol I like how you keep asking people if they have access to scientific journals. At first I thought you did that because you wanted to send that person a copy of the article. But now I realize that you're doing that to try and discredit the opposition by making the inference: "well, you can't read the whole study, therefore you're wrong." It's not my fault you do not have access to scientific journals.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 08:04 PM
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This study is very flawed at worst, or very limited at best. Just reading the abstract: We recruited couples and randomly assigned half to double their frequency of intercourse So say a couple naturally has sex once a week. This rate is probably determined by the partner that doesn't want sex as much, and is satisfied/only wants to do it once a week. Then you "force" them to double the amount of sex they're having? Of course it's not going to lead to increased happiness. The partner that wanted …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 08:00 PM
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Lol did I say women weren't horny? No, of course they are. But they are way less horny on average than guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 07:52 PM
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You mean my willingness to commit meant that I could have girls hotter than I was? Yeah dude. What the hell did you do?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 07:52 PM
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LOL never change
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 07:47 PM
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"knowledge" about female psychology when none of you are psychologists and there's nothing scientific about your field reports. Field reports, def unscientific. Being a psychologist is unecessary, as TRP isn't really there for doing scientific studies. It more, makes inferences on psychology based on actual research and personal experience. Believe it or not, but personal experience and stereotyping by human individuals is often, surprisingly correct. Humans are very good at detecting and recogn…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 07:44 PM
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Good.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 07:39 PM
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I'm point out how dumb your statement is: Adults deal with intentions, not just outcomes. Outcomes and intentions matter. If you premidate killing someone that's murder. If you accidentally kill someone, it's not like no one's gonna charge you for a crime. Outcomes still matter. So you get a manslaughter charge. But following your logic, if only intentions mattered, than you can state that anyone who acted TRP naturally (but did not have bad intentions) shouldn't be judged in any way.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 06:22 AM
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Obviously, yes. It's astonishing to me that this is even being discussed. Adults deal with intentions, not just outcomes. If you push someone down a flight of stairs with the intention of injuring them, it's assault. If you do the same action with the intention of getting them out of the path of an oncoming bullet, you're likely a hero. Injuring, or even attempting to injure, people just to control their behavior is abuse. lol not really. that's why there's manslaughter and murder. but let's use…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 05:26 AM
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lol so first you say woman don't agree on what's attractive. and then in true taiboworks fashion you move the goal posts to say that woman just have a bigger standard deviation in what they say is attractive. great.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 05:09 AM
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If, however, a person does either of those things for the express purpose of controlling another person, it's bullshit and childish. What's so difficult about this topic to understand? Okay so a person is free to use any of the techniques, but you draw the line at whether or not the "abuser/manipulator" is "for the express purpose of controlling another person"? So if a guy naturally did dread game without the purpose of controlling a girl it's totally fine? Lol seems strange to understand to me…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 05:08 AM
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/u/taiboworks: do women agree on what's attractive? (https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/3csoo0/malefemale_attractiveness_ratings_of_the_opposite/csymo06) Jesus. I swear you are actually the most brilliant troll in disguise.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 03:43 AM
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lol no no no. reread my comment. I'm saying that I don't consider anyone victims in any of those cases. This is contrary to what some BPers would say that "dread game is emotional abuse" which I find completely absurd. I assume you agree?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 03:41 AM
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lol okay so just because men have more of an agreement on topic A than women, it means that women don't have any level of agreement on topic A? flawless logic there. not even sure what fallacy this is, but saving this comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 03:38 AM
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Personality is what ultimately makes someone attractive to me (and a lot of women); Yeah personality is definitely a key factor, along with looks. But what's interesting to me, and what matters is just the distribution of ratings. I would be equally happy to see what woman rated "personalities" or a combo of personalities and looks. The point is, that woman find most men below average. And this suggests that the theory of Alpha males: betabux is true: that there is a select percentage 6-20% that…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 03:36 AM
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think that dog was on the verge of a slow death.. but yeah should ahve specified season 1 francis underwood.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 03:31 AM
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A moral compass separates the "boys" from the "men." and is not uncompatible with being red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 03:30 AM
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True, some come out stronger with great values. Others, not so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 03:29 AM
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LOL just imagine if he actually did secretly browse TRP. Then one day you show up with the TRP page in front of him and in his head, he's like OH SHIT, but keeps his cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 03:28 AM
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yeah, it's just a talking head, puppeted by lotsa lotsa money.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 03:26 AM
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i think you need to reread your comment
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 03:21 AM
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really, you mean the rule which has no valid evidence regarding male/female relations Lol you're the one giving us the study showing that there is a clear difference in the way women rate men in that most are below average. women being pickier about who to have sex with is matched by men being picker about who to date, so they equal each other out, making men and women equally picky Woosh. That's the important point flying over your head. The fact that females rate men less than what they rate t…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 03:18 AM
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Tl;dr: Passive-aggressive behavior is unmanly. THere's an extremely significant difference about passive aggressiveness and dread game that I think many of you are mixing up. Passive aggressiveness would be making snide comments, sulking. Dread game is totally different. It's genuinely being apathetic. It's knowing that you don't have to tolerate a certain behaviour and quite easily move on -- and that is naturally conveyed to your partner. It demonstrates value that is there. Now see this is a …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 03:11 AM
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I don't see it as being a victim, so much as a woman is a victim if I apply dread game on her.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 03:06 AM
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yes but back then it was a mutal 4 and 5 not just a one way 4 and 5
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 03:00 AM
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they're not "special" I think that's the right idea, perhaps not phrased the best. I definitely think TRP offends individual women because they don't like to think that there is a guide out there that claims knowledge on their psychology. I think what angers them the most, is that pershaps they see some way that they have been manipulated in the past by a natural alpha guy, and are pissed/don't want to admit that it worked.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 02:59 AM
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another user pointed that out and as I said in reply, this post was from 2009 and the data before that. the auto notification feature for all ratings of 4 and 5 started around 2012
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 02:36 AM
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What it just boils down to is that men are hornier than women. They want less of sex, and more of relationship. Men want more sex, with a large variety. So what usually happens are the following compromises: Attractive man compromises on an unattractive woman willing to have casual sex Attractive woman compromises on an unattractive man willing to have commitment
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 02:35 AM
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Ironically, yeah this is the answer. TRP comes packaged as a guide to get women. Women see this as manipulation.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 02:31 AM
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Yep. Ironically PPD confirms basic trp tenets more than anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 02:29 AM
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women being pickier than men overall has been the academic understanding for decades, Awesome! You agree then. Because that pickiness helps lead to the 80/20 rule
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 02:21 AM
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do women agree on what's attractive? ... https://www.reddit.com/r/LadyBoners If you're seriously suggesting that there aren't males that more females find attractive than I don't know what to tell you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 02:20 AM
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yes and in both cases, it is a cultural phenomenon. pretend those males who did reproduce were nobles/royalty/upper class. they did not have to ahve dangerous jobs or go to war the other males probably had to go do tasks with a high death rate. at the end of the day, it's the same old af/bb scenario. it's just a question on whether the betabux didn't reproduce because they died or because they just weren't allowed to take wives.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/15 08:05 PM
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ok so they take care of the kid and female. the kid stil has that guy's original genes that you said got killed. so the man would be represented
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/15 07:59 PM
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WebMd is actually a pretty decent source. just don't rely fully on it and see a physician when you need to
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/15 07:58 PM
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I would tell her about TRP concepts of course. And hopefully i would ahve told her that before then. The number of guys who are natural alphas, and who innately use red pill tactics far outnumber actual TRPers. Preparing my daughter and son for how the world works is prt of my job.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/15 07:39 PM
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And even after hearing your story, not a single feminist will ever move a finger in your direction to help you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/15 07:37 PM
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lol read half-way through that article. man, you are one weird dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/15 07:36 PM
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constanat interference with your children's sex life is a sign of narcissism
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/15 07:32 PM
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It's not like Single mothers are anything new lol it's not like murder victims are anything new nice logic there, for ignoring an issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/15 07:31 PM
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ITT: BPers inadvertently scare sons using TRP from ever consulting a parent.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/15 07:29 PM
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Wife has an MD lol. does she also have a strap on? what do you have?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/15 07:19 PM
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lol i love when a poster completely eviscerates any credibility with a follow up comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/15 07:18 PM
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Channing Tatum's body Francis Underwood's persona
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/15 07:16 PM
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I actually think it's could be a helpful metaphor to understand why an attractive woman, wouldn't just outright choose someone her level of attractiveness and who would make a good, stead spouse (the med student in this case). There really isn't that strong of an element of "revenge fantasy" for me. TRP actually said the other day not to bother having revenge fantasies. https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/3bgy37/you_might_never_get_your_revenge/
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/15 07:14 PM
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well if you used their service back then you would know but you can also infer from blog posts in 2012 when ppl complain about the recent changes. http://www.okcupid.com/forum?tid=7467757397779987590 anyways, you're the one who made the claim in the first place that the data relied on flawed methodology. the onus is on you to demosntrate that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/15 07:10 PM
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Yup. Sorry to plug in a previous thread that I started, but it's simply because women hate men who are deemed "fake" and use "guides" to self-improve and attract women. It impedes their ability to discern "natural" alphas. https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/3bvlik/question_for_women_imagine_if_you_found_out_your/ https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/3bw06k/the_thread_on_imagine_if_you_found_out_your_so/
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/15 07:06 PM
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True, but there isn't a "BP", anti-rap group by feminists on Reddit, dedicated to making fun of every new rap song by rap artists. One would expect those who claim to hate TRP because it is "sexist" to also hate and be even more passionate about an art form (rap) which contains widespread misogyny and has enjoyed widespred popularity.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/15 07:03 PM
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Well you need to take in account that women rate other women generally more attractive then they do rate men too. Not really, if all we're concerned with is specifically female perception of male attractiveness. Sure, the fact that females think most males are average or below average might have something to do with the way females rate attractiveness, but that doesn't matter practically, at the end of the day. The conclusion, any man should take from this, is that: be the top 6%. For whatever r…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/15 07:01 PM
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when it omits the fact that users get notified if they rate someone 4 or 5 rendering the data worthless because women don't like to initiate and thus are much less likely to rate men 4 or 5 as the data shows. actually you're mistaken. that feature of autonotification when someone was rated 4 or 5 was implemented in ~2012. this study was published 2009 and the data was from before that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/15 06:58 PM
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I think the conclusion is wrong. I think the women are judging themselves too and finding flaws in themselves. Then they message men they think are about the same in attractivnrss compared to themselves and not to other men. Your statement doesn't conflict with the conclusion. At the end of the day, women rate most men as not very attractive, but still mesage them despite that. Of course they might take into account their own relative attractiveness, but it's short-sighted to assume they're not …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/15 06:51 PM
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Actually, the OKC study showed that women only find the top 6% of men above average. The remaining 13% that separated the cream of the crop from the 81% uggos were merely average. Or rather, "average" Yeah this is correct. Edited my original comment. The point is, a very small % of men are actually "physically attractive" to women. Women, of course, will still message men. But everyone should look at the curve from the site's page and look at the shape of it compared to the men's ratings. Women …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/15 06:48 PM
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Let's say one gets laid and fails to provide for his offspring and it dies Okay. But in your scenario you're saying that this man's offspring dies? In that case, the woman's dna wouldn't be represented either.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/15 05:55 AM
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But you can't know how many were getting laid If I understand your problem with the study, you think that some of 16/17 men, who do not pass on progeny were getting laid. But, the thing is, it's very unlikely that if they were getting laid that they never got any females pregnant. Sure, there might a small percentage of males that don't end up getting their female partners pregnent. But that seems an unlikely explanation, given it's 16/17 men who are not reproducing.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/15 04:49 AM
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This is a very relevant article from OKCupid. OP, please post in your original text if you find it helpful Basically: In male ratings of female attractiveness, the curve is relatively symmetrical - the majority of women are average, and an equal number of women are either attractive or unattractive In female ratings of male attractiveness, the curve is not symmetrical. Women rate 80% of men as worse than medium attractiveness and 13% as average attractiveness. Now this is huge. It, in itself sho…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/15 04:45 AM
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this study suggests men agree on what's females are attractive more (smaller standard deviation in ratings) than women do lol you and your sources...no it doesnt. It doesn't have data on men's and female's hotness ratings for males vs females -- so there's no way you can determine whether men and women agree on which females are the most attractive. All it has is average user's opinion on males and females. Also, the author admits this study is very limited. It would of course be a bad idea to d…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/15 04:27 AM
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don't think science is your strong suit, mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/15 04:18 AM
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only y chromosomes from men who had unbroken genetic lines from then to now would still be represented. well, yeah of course. that's the whole point of the methodology. by seeing the amount of genetic variation, theyre determining the number of represented genetic lines (and by extension unbroken genetic lines) in that period.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/15 04:17 AM
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Not trying to build a straw man. You said that we know how many men reproduced, not how many were getting laid. So you're suggesting that the 16/17 other men, who were not reproducing were getting laid? And that somehow never led to children in their lifetime?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/15 04:13 AM
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well that's why you don't know. random women aren't gonna come to you and tell a stranger that she's slept with 19 people.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/15 03:10 AM
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Again, please just read the article so I don't have to regurgitate things to you. It's examining a period in genetic history 4000-7000 years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/15 03:09 AM
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I wouldn't post this much person info. Could get doxxed
/r/TheRedPill10/07/15 02:15 AM
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you don't have close female friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/15 02:11 AM
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the most annoying thing about most in the poly/bdsm/fetplay scene is they never shut up about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/15 02:10 AM
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Mathematically speaking, if you wait long enough, you will have been responsible for the existence of all living human beings or no living human beings. ...lol wut? Sample was gathered to be geographically representative which is necessary to most accurately examine human society 4k-7k years ago. Also this is by Cold Springs Harbor press so you're gonna need a more detailed explanation to say why you think this methodlogy is bad. it seems fine to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/15 02:07 AM
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You just know how many reproduced, not how many were getting laid. lol so you're saying it's possible everyone was getting laid but only 1/17 of the males were fertile? uhh yeah, no.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/15 02:01 AM
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lol please do go on and elaborate. The article was published by coldsprings harbor press, and I'd trust their editorial judgement over your unsubstantiated comment any day.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/15 02:00 AM
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Reading at the least the main article would have saved you this comment. First of all: the only way to track male ancestry is y chromosomes but if a man has only daughters his genetic line ends as he passes on zero y chromosomes. Is obviously accounted for. This is relatively easy to do, due to the law of large number. If you examine many samples, on average it will be a 50:50 male vs female birth rate ratio. Based on that, you can quite easily adjust for the expected amount of diversity in the …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/15 01:58 AM
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Men are misandrists and misogyny as far as they are considered truthful statements of fact. Is it misandry to say that the majority of men are betas, average-looking, and not what girls see as hook-up material? Sure it's negative but it's the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/15 01:40 AM
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I think that their race factors into it, yes. Do you think that it could be partly biological as well, that contributes to who becomes CEOs? IE: Those that tend to be willing to take risks also tend to be more succesful at becoming CEOs.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/15 11:10 PM
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Are you arguing that this is the case in general? Umm why wouldn't he be Or, since TRP is a very largely American phenomenon, and since TBP is largely American, let's talk about the US. Wut? That's the stupidest reason to exclude information that I've ever heard. And also, I'd like to point out how you conveniently ignored this argument in your reply to /u/cra1: Isn't choosing a dangerous profession a kind of risk to take? And the dangerous jobs usually pay more, proportionate to the risk to lif…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/15 11:04 PM
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research has found that high partner count men and women are more likely to have substance abuse disorders. Hmm then that would be an even greater reason not to have an LTR with a woman with high partner count. Obviously having a partner with a higher "substance abuse disorder" and "psychological issues" that you said may negatively impact a child's life. Funny that you bring this subject up now, when before you were on the opposite side of this argument. but you can't prove virginity (so it's n…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/15 10:57 PM
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I know it's my insertion. I'm just extending your logic. You are concerned about guys getting STDs Therefore, you suggest getting tested as one line of defence. However, often STDs are undetectable. Pap smears for instance, miss around 10-20% of HPV. And that's just one STD. So the only way to know for sure if you don't have an STD is if you've never had sex. So logically, if you are concerned about men getting STDs, or even STDs passing from your future mother to child, you would suggest to men…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/15 09:38 PM
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lol pretty sure he means that ratio increases due to a variety of things like: decreased male crime And also: increased rate of female incarceration (benevolent racism leads to much lower female incarceration) increased duration of female incarceration (again, benev sexism leads to smaller sentences on average) Also, even if it's just the first one, he was talking about the relative amounts. It's like when females want an equal pay for men and women. They don't want to just decrease the pay of m…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/15 09:17 PM
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I posted this documentary elsewhere on this page but this popular science documentary, that won the Fritt Ord Honorary, free speech award does just that: https://vimeo.com/19707588 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hjernevask It questions the degree of social/nurture forces versus the nature. The surprising thing is that nature is a more powerful force than nurture.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/15 09:14 PM
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/u/quantumtrollening: If you agree with that visual then you will agree that: in the extremes, there will be a large gap between men and women. Using your chart, it's obvious that, within the masses, there is almost no distinguishable difference between each person. We'd expect the average physics male or female student to be more or less the same. But looking at the extremes -- at the very best physics students -- there is a huge, relative difference bewteen males and females. In this sense, we…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/15 09:02 PM
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The article specifies that they want the form in addition to ongoing consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/15 08:55 PM
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The article specifies that they want the form in addition to ongoing consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/15 08:55 PM
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The article specifies that they want the form in addition to ongoing consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/15 08:54 PM
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lol /u/taiboworks it's kinda funny that - now that it's convenient - you're uplaying the risk of STDs. So you would suggest that guys looking for a relationship, should ask for STD tests, and ideally look for virgins (and non-CC riders) because they'll have the lowest risk of STDs right?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/15 08:53 PM
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No they discuss it a decent amount. There was a top post on it yesterday. I would argue probably more than the average joe. It's more the culture of it being uncomfortable to talk about STDs.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/15 08:50 PM
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+1 for actually reading the post and responding to all the questions.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/15 08:48 PM
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fucking lots of random men isnt appealing to you at all... ftfy But yeah, as you demonstrate, women are different. They want to ride the CC at different degrees. But I would say that almost every women (with even the bare minimum sex drive) would be curious of hooking up with a few "hot", "built" guys. Most girls I know who have only been in 1-2 LTRs sometimes say that they wish they'd "try out hooking up with hot guys at least once".
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/15 08:46 PM
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Had the same experience. Came onto TRP expecting the equivalent of the KKK. But nope, just some angst, but a lot of also consistent social observations that I sometimes knew, but couldn't quite put into words or were distorted by PC noise.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/15 08:43 PM
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lol you say convert as if it's some religion. I just find that a lot of the parts on TRP line up with my experience and social dynamics around me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/15 08:42 PM
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Same. A lot of these consent projects dont seem grounded... in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/15 04:38 AM
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Cant wait for Consntr Pro with unlimited Consent forms and Auto Cloud Capabilities
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/15 04:37 AM
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what's hard about that? well certainly not me
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/15 04:36 AM
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If you want the Red Pill answer, it's harassment because the girl finds the guy creepy. Any contact from a male below her desired SMV is considered unwanted as it personally offends her. In her mind, if she responded to that positive contact, it would mean that the man was "in her SMV range". If it's Channing Tatum and he randomly said "Hi" to a girl on the street, what would the reaction be? It wouldn't be: wow what a creep. It definitely would be positive as Tatum as a huge SMV.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/15 03:23 AM
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That the degree of attractiveness is a much more important factor for privelege than gender. That being female may give a certain x disadvantage in society. But being unattractive will give a much greater disadvantage in society.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/15 03:16 AM
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That's interesting. You should expand these thoughts in a post.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/15 08:13 PM
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Something else I'd ask is: females, do you (personally) relate to this desire to have sex with as many people as possible? Or have you not really experienced this sexuality/desire?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/15 08:01 PM
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And often, the same feminists who complain about white male patriarchy end up hooking up with... white males. lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/15 07:47 PM
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Yeah there is some consensus to this. White men, do you find in general Asian women are relatively "easy" pickings?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/15 07:46 PM
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The tone was terrible. But what would have been the ideal way to put them down? No contact A lie, like: he wasn't interested because he's not sure what he wants The truth, put shortly that: he's not attracted physically to her
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/15 07:43 PM
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His story got onto the Daily Mail. I think it's "male version" of some person doing something "outrageous", relationship- or sex-wise. Like that woman who sowed her wild oats and quit her "six figure job!". My bet is: look for the sycophant's book in a few months.
/r/TheRedPill08/07/15 07:59 AM
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I think it depends on the exact individual... perhaps it is the difference between the level of assimilation. Can I ask if you and your friends: Were born in North America? Have an accent? Speak English as your first language? Are a good height? (~above 5'11) Have friends who are mainly caucasian or Westernized? Play American sports? (football, basketball, etc)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/15 07:53 AM
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What's annoying is spouting out maxims to make yourself feel clever, when they don't contribute to the discussion, like this: Hypotheticals don't exist. Only reality. If hypotheticals did exist we'd be living in a utopia. The definition of a hypothetical is that it's hypothetical so of course it doesn't exist dumbass. It's just helpful to think about to gauge someone's morality for something. AKA: if the tables were turned on an issue, would their morality/values be consistent. You arguing that …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/15 07:50 AM
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fine we're not speaking hypothetically. because there are asian guys out there who have and only exclusively date white women, however uncommon. bs like this is just annoying - not constructive nor clever.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/15 07:21 AM
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this is what happens when you don't look up the definitions before you make a statement
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/15 07:20 AM
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My problem with MRAs is largely that they seem to hate feminists Okay this just makes it seem like you think all MRAs hate feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/15 07:16 AM
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So genital mutliation is not a feminist issue?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/15 01:58 AM
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Both feminists and MRAs are there to act against what they perceive to be conscious injustices based on gender, not problems resulting from their own gender's natural condition. That's not what you originally said. you said that: Men's rights" implies that women are preventing these things from being remedied, are the main contributors to the problem, or are generally the main adversary, which is not the case in the vast majority. And that makes no sense. Why would MRA's fighting against male ci…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/15 01:47 AM
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"Men's rights" implies that women are preventing these things from being remedied, are the main contributors to the problem, or are generally the main adversary, which is not the case in the vast majority. I don't see how you're getting that implication. MRAs exist to tackle male-specific issues like how paediatricians exist to tackle kid-specific issues to health.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/15 01:35 AM
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Okay so do you agree with the above issues as legitimate men's rights issues, contrary to your parent comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/15 01:22 AM
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I changed it shortly after posting, but it's my fault if you didn't see
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/15 01:19 AM
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Some men are greedy and think they should be out fucking everything that moves and even if/when a good woman comes their way. They're afraid to commit for fear they'd be missing out on all that sex they think they should be having. And this has been my experience even with men who aren't exactly high SMV either. Relationships are "scary" and take a lot of work to work and sometimes require a level of effort many are either unable or unwilling to put forth. It's much easier to fap to porn and tak…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/15 01:17 AM
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To be fair though, those that marry young are usually the type that tend to be less educated and poorer to begin with
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/15 01:12 AM
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Other people in this thread would disagree. What would you say in response to them? /u/pandorarosie: Mental health (includes suicide/depression/etc), Paternity leave, Male birth control (not just condoms), Male abuse victims, Circumcision /u/HappilySingleWoman: ban infant circumcision , promote joint custody and fairness in courts and raise awareness about DV and abuse against men
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/15 01:05 AM
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I think you're trying to salvage your original point, but it really doesn't hold water. What does the overall structure sub have to do with this?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/15 01:02 AM
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How is Life Sciences, Economics, Physics, Computer Science, Engineering focused on white males when none of them deal with humans? Perhaps European/American history is focused on White males, but that's because most of human history is a patriarchal society. And it's not even relevant because we are discussing academia focused on current social problems with humans
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/15 12:45 AM
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My problem with MRAs is largely that they seem to hate feminists. As a feminist, I want to see the world become a fairer place with equality for everyone. As long as a MRA isn't going around disparaging women and trying to put them down to raise men up, I have no problem with them. I think part of the problem is this narrow-minded assumption that "MRAs hate feminists". If you think that, you're paying attention to the wrong MRAs. It's the exact characterization that TRP and MRA's have about femi…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/15 12:42 AM
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Isn't that the majority of the MRA's mission though? (talking about mainstream MRA)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/15 12:39 AM
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Well its def not socially acceptable to say, but my good female friends share their non-socially acceptable preferences in confidence when we shoot the shit. Also, if you must know some asian girls who only date non-asians...just by who they date.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/15 12:38 AM
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I agree. I would say that women, by far, are the most "racist" or racially selective for mates. But this post was directed at BPers who classify racial preferences as fetishists.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/15 12:05 AM
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Yes to both. The first, on a few occasion. The second, significantly frequent.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/15 12:04 AM
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But we have to agree that manipulation is a much more vague/"not cut and dry" subject as compared to physically hitting a women repeatedly, no? Manipulation is something that most humans will say is bad, but will probably have done at some point in their lives before. TRP probably believes what they're doing isn't manipulation, and it is trickier for you to argue that they are actively supporting manipulation. What you may call manipulation will differ in another person's opinion. For instance: …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/15 12:02 AM
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It is, but we're speaking hypothetically.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/15 11:54 PM
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It's more likely that an Asian man would marry into his own race because he wants Asian kids/wants asian bloodline and culture in his family. Is that okay by your standards? What about if an Asian women did that? (ie, hooked up with white guys but married back into Asians because she wanted an asian fam)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/15 11:52 PM
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Now we're going in circles. TRP, like most human beings, are against violence including beating women. Or go back to the original post that you linked and read it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/15 11:50 PM
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Do you guys ever regret taking a RP or PP perspective as opposed to the blue side of ignorance? Sure, I'm in a solid relationship, and it's great. I'm financially on decent footing, not super rich. But, it seems like in a way, the BP liberal arts major people had much richer, flavorful lives than I did. Yes, they might have had great lives, but it is all relative to their own potential. What do I mean? Well imagine if you had a completely reckless lifestyle. Even though you imagine your life to …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/15 11:47 PM
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You are ignoring what I'm saying. I am not saying that "beating women" is just non-related to TRP. I am saying it is in direct contrast to TRP. Like the opposite. That is why it is specifically not on TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/15 11:41 PM
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"Gut instinct" is interesting as I've heard that from some individuals before. Would you say that you have that instinct when you see a white man dating only asian woman? And would you say that you do not have that instinct for some reason when you see an asian man only dating asian women? Or a white man dating only white women?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/15 11:39 PM
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Okay but what about White men who date Asian girls but settle down with a white woman? Does that bother you? What about an Asian man who dates a ton of white girls and marries an Asian woman? Is that okay?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/15 11:38 PM
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places like 4chan and TRP talk openly about how Eastern women are so much better, more docile, submissive, etc, then it's absolutely creepy and projecting of their fantasies. Which qualities, in general, would you label under creepy? If a woman wanted a man who was "docile and submissive" would you find it just as creepy as the 4chan or TRP men? What if it was a lesbian woman who wanted a "docile" partner? What if it was a woman who wanted a "dominant" partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/15 11:36 PM
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Because it's specifically NOT TRP. Do you disagree with that point? Here's a better example: if i go on TwoX and start trying to talk about MRA stuff what will happen? That post will get deleted. Because it's specifically NOT TwoX content.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/15 11:33 PM
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Just go back to the original point: Physical and emotional abuse isn't TRP. Just like you wouldn't want to discuss cars on a twoxchromosomes, things that are off topic and not trp like abuse don't fit on trp.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/15 11:20 PM
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Girls like a guy who is masculine, built, tall, a leader, who is stoic to most, but only shows a soft, feminine, emotional side to the girl. The point is, girls want a masculine man with a shade of femininity. Not: a feminine man.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/15 11:08 PM
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TRP is just information. People can take this information and do whatever they want with it , that's the point of TRP. Okay, yes. And this can be said with all information. Why can't men decide they want to beat up women ? Not sure where this came from and where you're going with this. Yes assholes anywhere can decide to beat up women. A person who reads the Bible or other holy text can decide to beat up a woman. A person who was born on the 7th of July can randomly and decide to beat up a woman…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/15 11:06 PM
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This I unconciously knew, but actually started to realize it after TRP
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/15 10:56 PM
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First of all, I think the main point of that post was to say that "Hitting women is NOT Red Pill", period. TRP to its credit has never condoned domestic violence. The loss of frame point was just to demonstrate how completely incompatible beating women was to a core TRP philosophy. Frame isn't about "discipline" or "teaching women a lesson". It's about maintaining a certain attitude or persona - and that persona does not include violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/15 10:55 PM
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I suppose I'm not against it, but I don't really see how academics could be more male-focused than they already are. Could you elaborate? In my experience, social justice academics (sociology, feminism, sexual diversity studies) mainly focuses on "traditionally" disadvantaged groups like colored persons, non-heterosexuals, and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/15 10:42 PM
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You didn't read any of the post, and don't understand the original post. I simply asked if your perfect man had used a guide (which was non-sexist and non-selfish) what people's reaction would be. The point of this is to prove that even if TRP caved into TBP's thinking, and changed everything so that it was no longer sexist, TBP and women will still hate it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/15 08:00 PM
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The post specifically said "inspired by/based on". The fact is, our entire personality, no matter what, is based on one media or the other. Whether it's from the bible, Charles dickens books, or even an internet guide, all of those things influence our personality and moral values. THe point of the question was to see your reaction to realize that your loved one, used one particular guide in shaping his own personality. In theory, why should that matter?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/15 07:58 PM
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and how many gods are there again?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/15 05:17 AM
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I did specify. I said: has the moral fiber that you would like a man to have, same values, https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/3bvlik/question_for_women_imagine_if_you_found_out_your/ Just because someone morality/values are inspired from a bible, charles dickens book, or even internet guide doesn't make it anything less genuine
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/15 05:16 AM
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lol i wrote the damn post. what does based on/inspired by mean to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/15 05:15 AM
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For you. https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/3bvlik/question_for_women_imagine_if_you_found_out_your/ He is attractive to you, great in bed, smart, funny, well-read, well dressed, has the moral fiber that you would like a man to have, same values, and makes great romantic gestures. Now pretend, you browse his history and find out that he's been part of a "dating strategy guide". This guide is not TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/15 05:13 AM
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It's not about prestige. It's about relative prestige. Your BU girl will only date Harvard guys. Perhaps your local community college girl will only date BU guys. But, speaking broadly, prestige is part of a wider arena of traits that include social standing, salary, fame, etc. etc. that all contribute to a man's attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/15 05:10 AM
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Have I tried it? I live it
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/15 05:07 AM
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a) its from what i hear from female friends b) nah its from inexperience. ex: if u hook up with a virgin don't expect her to be a master in bed. she'll more than likely spend most of the time lying there.
/r/TheRedPill03/07/15 04:51 AM
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Absolutely varies. Some for weeks, the longest is just under a year. I would say ~60% it is her who ends it for whatever reason, ie: she decides that fwb is not her thing, she starts to get feelings that i do not share, or she enters a relationship with another person. I usually drop it when I start to sense the other person is really starting to develop feelings for me, or due to time commitments. I find that dates really eat out your weekends.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/15 02:49 PM
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Then TBP agrees with 50% of TRP already.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/15 02:33 PM
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You should read the other research pertinent to this discussion: http://web.stanford.edu/~mrosenfe/Rosenfeld_Couple_Longevity_Forthcoming_JMF.pdf In this study gay men had a separation rate similar to heteros, while lesbians had a higher rate. THe common thread is that lesbians are more likely to split, thus favoring the notion that they are hypergamous.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/15 02:32 PM
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Abuse only counts for whatever is convenient to my current argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/15 02:31 PM
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Not really a huge mental leap. Just basic economics of supply and demand. There is more supply of men than women. All men and women want the best supply. Guess who get's matched up in the end?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/15 02:29 PM
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But you haven't said anything
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/15 05:53 AM
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Classic example of TBP debate dodging: Pretending you don't understand the premise to ignore the thrust
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/15 05:50 AM
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How is TBP "quality over quantiity" in this case? Wouldn't TRP be both quantity and quality? The product by TRP has more specifications that customers want. More positive specifications, means more customers. TRP can be more selective about which customers TRP chooses. Therefore quality and quantity.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/15 05:49 AM
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I agree that "manipulating" in this analogy will lead to more buyer's remorse. The main thrust of OP's point still stands RP: There are certain biases that customers have for products By putting those specifications in my product, I will attract more customers Eventually many customer will purchase the product, for the specification, and will be happy to find that the speicfication is there BP: Every individual is different. TRP is useless because it thinks that all women act the same! Therefore…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/15 05:48 AM
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A common thing i hear with genetic lottery chad is that they all are crap in bed. Kinda like how most hot girls do starfish sex
/r/TheRedPill02/07/15 05:34 AM
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yeah agree. like ~60% making jokes with the rest of the crowd, hopefully commanding the room. the other percentage should be smooth flirting with the girl
/r/TheRedPill02/07/15 05:33 AM
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we only have recent data on that, not enough for you to make that statement with any certainty. Okay, shut down the thread. We're not allowed to discuss anything else based on this study.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/15 05:11 AM
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100% agree. As for the super-attracitve, they live in another world where they pick people from the line up and everyone else just goes with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/15 05:09 AM
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Should ban the language regardless. I find it impossible to learn.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/15 05:07 AM
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No one deserves to lose a loved one. Mental health is a very serious issue and hopefully Burchill will now become an advocate for it. The people I hate the most are those that try to trivialize serious issues by saying issues under their purview are "more important". I get that Burchill hated MRAs. I sense that her self-described "callous" statements, that: the voluntary exits of a few hundred able-bodied young men each year are best dealt with as private tragedies rather than a public concern. …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/15 05:03 AM
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If you can simply say those three qualities as and don them a "TRP alpha" than we automatically get Bill Maher, and George Clooney (minus the race-realist part, which I have never heard on TRP)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/15 04:49 AM
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What would you suggest is a fair amount for alimony? Do you think it should be capped, or always a percentage of the income? How long do you think is fair?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/15 04:47 AM
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if 500K or 1M or 3M isn't enough then 100K wouldn't be enough to sway me You are a ridiculous person. But yes i congratulate you on your generous looks and personality for landing your big cock millionaire, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/15 04:46 AM
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The point of many survey questions is to posit a hypothetical (even though impossible) situation to try and see underlying biases. It may be a "trap" but that's the point of all studies; particpants shouldn't try and see the "point" of survey questions, or else it defeates the point of the question. Why be afraid of what the potential conclusion of your response be? It may be artificial but even I can make the decision that, all things being equal, i would prefer my partner to be attractive, rat…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/15 04:43 AM
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Women have the highest divorce rate. Hypergamy predicts women will divorce more. Thus, evidence in favor of hypergamy. Also, you in no way addrssed OP's question (which was an explanation for the findings). You just tried to apply the results to hypergamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/15 04:40 AM
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The thing about promotions (especially top promotions) is that they happen to a very small minority of people. Yes, it probably happens more to white men. But that's because promotions are usually based off of nepotism and social contacts. White men have just tended to occupy those spaces for longer, and the higher echelons of society just change at the slowest rates. However, it isn't like it's a conspiracy of white men accross America that women or colored people aren't being promoted. It's th…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/15 04:36 AM
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/u/andrewisgood why do you think personally there are so few women where you work? Is there a boy's club? Have you worked to address these issues at your work place if so? If you have, is the club there for malicious reasons, or just ignorance because things have always been that way? Is it discrimination or harassment? Have you tried confronting that discrimination? Is it perhaps that the work is physically strenuous? Do you think having a larger body/more muscles is advantageous to your job?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/15 04:33 AM
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Your logically off, as this would be evidence for hypergamy. Moreover, why is this study and claims in this thread "bad science?"
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/15 04:03 AM
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Then it's disingenuous to say flatly that: It finds no difference between groups. You edit and specify in your original comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/15 04:02 AM
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The thing is, even if you assume that the type of people to get married immediately is not representative of gays/lesbian in general, it is controlled by the comparison between gays and lesbians. In both cases we are looking at gays and lesbians who have recently wedded right after legalization. That said, the stark difference between gays and lesbians still stands. It's easy to play the "study isn't perfect"/"we need more studies" card.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/15 04:00 AM
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At least you agree that women, in general, have lower sex drives. This, in itself, however logically implies the Alpha-fux/Beta-bux dynamic is true. Given: Women want sex at decreased frequency than men Men seek out sex at increased frequency; men therefore will tend to be more willing to have more hook ups (from as many partners as possible) and women will tend to be less willing to do this Women and men will tend to seek out the best possible (attractive/successful partners) What will happen i…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/15 03:56 AM
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Guys, check it out: pro-nazi salute used by /u/BoomFapXCX. Sieg heil! I think he's pro-nazi guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/15 04:48 AM
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Someone willing to sleep with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/15 04:03 AM
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How can the red pill be real if our eyes aren't real. Checkmate atheists.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/15 04:02 AM
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@lbspredh is just pointing out that you're disingenuous when you say TBP simply do not believe in TRP, therefore you are analogous to an atheist who doesn't believe in religion. Someone who is atheist and doesn't believe in religion would say, go on with your beliefs, I just don't believe them. Someone who doesn't believe in TRP will say, go on with your shenanigans, I just don't buy into them. VERSUS Someone who is anti-relgious and actively tries to argue against religion TBP which spends hour…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/15 04:00 AM
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There are men like this, but those aren't the men I'm interested in dating. The same thing is said by all the neckbeard virgins you guys make fun of. Neckbeards probably don't change their exercise/diet/video game habits because they see it as "part of them" and that their future girl out there should conform to what the neckbeard finds important. In reality, what the neckbeard, or you, are suggesting is to limit your own options, arbitrarily (probably because of pride).
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/15 06:30 PM
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lol not so much laughter from my observation. TBP exists more for naricissm. Where people on the internet can feel morally superior in a circle jerk.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/15 06:26 PM
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the thing that i find the funniest about tbpers is how fragile their egos are. the average bper on PPD is more obsessed with trp than the average TRPer is. you're the one giving them the attention, and you want to play that off. so you say stuff like: " I think that saying that TBP is more than a mockery sub is maybe giving TRP too much credit. " or something to the tune of "TRP is so dumb, I can't not pay attention" When, at the end of the day, you are spending your time to debate (unsuccesfull…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/15 06:03 PM
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And all of a sudden by some magic you knew what to do after hearing the special words, "deal with it?"
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/15 06:01 PM
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.... only on PPD will you have to argue what the genearl population of Reddit is like. Okay fine say it represents only young people (16-30 year old). That still significant that the entire next generation shames people for being losers.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/15 05:45 PM
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Id say the general reddit community is younger and liberal than the average person. SO it's only worse out their in the real world.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/15 05:35 PM
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give up what's there to give up. they say they're a mockery sub. giving up would imply that they had some purpose...hm?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/15 05:27 PM
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To be fair, if someone came to you for advice and they said "deal with it", do you think they'd be able to take that advice and actually improve? "Deal with it" offers nothing of value. If you call anything other than saying "get off your ass" as hand-holding then you're insane. How exactly do I go from "Deal with it" to becoming attractive, and spinning plates? Saying TRP needs hand-holding might feel good, but it just seems like soplipsism. I'm willing to bet that 99% of people who post "deal …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/15 05:25 PM
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I seriously don't know what you refer to here. It's not even close to my experience at least, where at least people are indifferent about others who are unsuccesful. We just had this discussion. This was the highest post, still on PPD's page. TBP and the general reddit community "shames" failures, because that's what the intrinsically see as "bad" and an "insult". It's like when kids call each other gay as an insult. They do it because they, internally, think that "being gay is bad". http://www.…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/15 05:21 PM
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that they really hate anyone who is disadvantaged in life . lol we just had this discussion. TBP and the general reddit community "shames" failures, because that's what the intrinsically see as "bad" and an "insult". It's like when kids call each other gay as an insult. They do it because they, internally, think that "being gay is bad". http://www.np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/34uw13/blue_pillsfeminists_verify_just_how_correct_red/ As for shaming tactics: never heard of mangina fat a…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/15 05:20 PM
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Can we stop with this bullshit that it's just a mockery sub? It's intended also to counter the TRP influence. Just because they say it's a mockery sub, doesn't mean that it's their only purpose. If it was "just a mockery sub" then why was this post made in the first place? It's clear that the greater goal of TBP is to counteract TRP and that includes mocking it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/15 05:03 PM
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Black men are the biggest hypocrites on the face of the earth then. xD He said, with no further elaboration.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/15 06:32 AM
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If time stopped, hell froze over, and if I won the lottery, how would that affect TRP? More importantly, who cares?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/15 05:39 AM
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I'm not going to grovel for anybody, especially someone who's supposed to be on my side. That's the very extreme form of dread game. Most dread game is passive.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/15 11:20 PM
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Okay let me simplify things so you can understand. The study found that attractiveness = more orgasm. It also found masculinity = more orgasm. Both attractiveness and masculinity = more orgasm, with attractiveness having a greater effect. Was metrosexuality studied? No. Masculinity was studied. Postive correlation with attractivness. Thus based on this data, the best route for a man would be to become attractive and masculine. Done. Period. Finito.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/15 11:18 PM
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lol you're not understanding your own stats. no one's trying to argue whether masculinity or attractiveness is more conducive to orgasming. we're debating if masculinity, at all, relates to female attraction (ie: orgasming in this context) You're trying to argue that masculinity is not correlated with orgasming and that male femininity is. Your data shows that masculinity as well as attractiveness both lead to more orgasm. ie the opposite of what you're saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/15 07:58 PM
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ahem. feminism
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/15 07:54 PM
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I don't think either of the situations are okay. Yes, yes while you, I, or OP may think that neither of these situations are okay, what OP is really asking is: why does this double standard exist?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/15 07:03 PM
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Lol we also went through this paper in an earlier thread (I think it was you who brought it up) and we all decided that the paper said masculinity = more orgasm. Nice that you completely forgot about that thread and tried to manipulate the paper's findings.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/15 07:00 PM
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It's like we're on a space subreddit. And I put up a discussin on venus. And you're like "you disagree, therefore i am wrong and deserve to be downvoted. okie dokie"
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/15 06:14 PM
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There are volumes and volumes but I think OP means why isn't in mainstream feminism. Compared to other criticisms, (like of Western Patriarchy) feminist critcism of Islam is INCREDIBLY sparse. You won't hear much about Islam in any introduction to feminist studies courses. So just because there are volumes on the topic, doesn't mean that topic is widely taught. Also, you're avoiding the question's purpose, well on purpose. Obviously Islam is less critcized than Christianity or Western Culture in…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/15 06:11 PM
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i agree. so is the solution just telling them to get comfortable with never being loved by another?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/15 05:57 PM
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Uncomfortable, but not empathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/15 07:16 AM
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Someone calls you a chink. What do you say back?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/15 07:10 AM
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No. That's a story we all tell ourselves to make us feel better at night. That the racist from high school will get what's coming to them. That's wrong. The only justice that exists in this world is the justice we deal upon others.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/15 07:08 AM
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1) Probably not, but if so definitely past 30. 2) To some degree 3) No STDs, no past partners that were close to me, wasnt the type to constantly sleep around with all the hottest guys she could (as compared to the type to LTR instead)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 04:27 AM
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oh you think you've been with plenty of women? I've been with plenty plenty plenty of women. Yeah this pretty much confirms that you definetly don't even know plenty plenty plenty of women. And maybe the women you meet are like that that because you view and treat women taht way.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/15 04:01 PM
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that's not 1/million guy. that's the 1/100 guy seeing as that's the rate of homosexuality. the 1/million guy changes his condition from BB to Af.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/15 03:56 PM
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that's not 1/million guy. that's the 1/100 guy seeing as that's the rate of homosexuality. the 1/million guy actually changes his condition.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/15 03:56 PM
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lol i doubt you read the study. and yes, if you are too lazy to even open up the study then you should be insulted.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/15 03:54 PM
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This (dreadgame) is actually the most abussive part of TRP, IMO. You basically force women to completely change themselves to conform to your idea of good relationship. Then we can all breathe a sigh of relief that TRP really isn't that abusive then. If you interpret dread game wrong (which you are) at worst it might just seem passive aggressive, which every relationship is guilty of (one time or another). Anyways, what dread game is really about depends on the context. It's not trying to make y…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/15 03:53 PM
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change must come from within the groups. at least for feminists and sjws, they need to change on the inside so that they are at least receptive to the discussion with: mra's and the general public who identify as non-feminists. every single feminist i meet will not even give an mra a benefit of the doubt. they equate the the extreme, "sjws" of the mra movement with the mra movement on the whole (like how some people equate tumblrinas as the mainstream of feminism). moreover, any criticsm from ou…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/15 05:56 PM
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i still fail to see the relevance. ... his particular case highlights a common contention of rp and bp which is the LTR relationship dynamic. The thing I hate about BP the most is tht, even when they know they're wrong, or they might be wrong, as a last resort tactic they pretend ignorance. They can't stand being wrong. It's one thing the extreme left and right have in common: they will never admit they're wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/15 05:52 PM
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The original OP's article references multiple studies in Hasleton's lab. Also, it's been a day. I went through the trouble of finding the study for you. What's your deep, insightful analysis you've come up with?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/15 05:46 PM
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his particular case highlights a common contention of rp and bp which is the LTR relationship dynamic. essentially, he is illustrating his personal example of failed traditional/bp techniques of saving a relationship as well as his about-to-fail trp techniques. so yes this is very relevant to this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/15 04:48 PM
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I started to distance my self. Well he's starting to do that now. But that this point, distancing yourself in an already rocky relationship is = ending it. It seems like the slightest fight could throw it off the rails.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/15 04:43 PM
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I'm not. But this is my explanation: Young men are very horny. Most young men get 0 sex. They see some Chad (born tall, rich, and handsome) hooking up with all the girls, even the "sweet, nice ones". Young man get jealous, mad, angry. "y no girl likes me? not fair, y all women like the same man, even tho he sleeps with tons of women" Young man go to internet and say women suck. Young man slut shame/want to go to traditional values because it's better that: no one has sex if he can't; that one da…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/15 04:40 PM
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Thanks for the answer! Okay, What if you found out close aquaintances (such as a family member) were also some of the partners, but this was long before your marriage?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/15 04:35 PM
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Thanks for the answer! Okay, What if you found out close aquaintances (such as a family member) were also some of the partners, but this was long before your marriage?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/15 04:35 PM
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What if you found out close aquaintances (such as a family member) were also some of the partners, but this was long before your marriage?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/15 04:34 PM
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thats not what a strawman is
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/15 04:33 PM
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Exactly. It's seeing if BP's moral standards are relativistic. It's like the old test: "Would you sleep with me for $100" A: Obviously not "Okay what about a billion?" A: Sure So we've established that you will do it, now it's just the price negotiation. Ie: you don't prostitute yourself because it's immoral/against your standards, you do it because you just haven't been offered the right price yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/15 04:32 PM
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...he didnt send the email. and he has detailed talking extensively with her for 5 years. do you suggest more talking for 5 years will sort it out? communication is good, but it's not a miracle solution. also: ok first does this really belong here? obviously he wants to see rp and bp opinions. if you don't want to engage, then suggest him to go over to /r/asktrp
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/15 04:28 PM
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Given that it is quickies, its usually the case that she sees it currently as a chore unfortunately. Seems like she's trying to be kind to have it, but doesn't genuinely like it. If this is true, it's neither hers nor your fault. Some people eventually get low libidos.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/15 04:26 PM
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Assuming we can take OP's word... So for the past three years, I've been lifting weights, building my self-confidence, learning how to dress better, reading about how to be a strong man, and doing anything else that would make me a better man. None of that seemed to matter. He's tried 1. If that doesn't help, then nothing will at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/15 04:25 PM
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If we take OP's word, then he's already tried counselling, showing her other people's opinion (books, blogs) and have had tons of "in-person" discussions (and fights) about this topic. IMO this relationship is on its last legs. These people simply do not see each other's point of view. The wife obviously does not see physical intimacy sex the same way the OP does, and that doesn't seem like that's going to change. And gl trying to find out the reason "why" she won't sleep with him. That's the su…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/15 04:23 PM
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ive tried something similar but i find that i keep forgetting about my posture and it just slinkies back to my hunchback position. Is it possible to permanently change your posture for the good if you keep at it?
/r/TheRedPill27/04/15 02:18 AM
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Should have just said BP men, mb
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/15 12:18 AM
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Actually that's a good point. Feminism critcizes the behavior of men in our society. They say that men, whether on purpose or not, are oppressors. Institutions, built by men, serve to oppress minorities as well as women. The theory part of TRP says that women, whether on purpose or not, are manipulative. They will do what is in their best interest to have sex. TRP is actually less harsh than feminsim because, at the end of the day, it doesn't say that it's women's fault for the current state of …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/15 12:07 AM
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Course there are, but we're talking about in general here.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/15 11:58 PM
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Count yourself lucky to have found a partner with a similar sex drive as you, then.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/15 03:28 PM
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lol.. what you said: they do this because you can't help someone if you pass out from lack of oxygen. if that were not an issue, you could certainly be as helpful as you wanted. what /u/QQ_L2P said: It's the same reason they tell people on airlines to put their Oxygen mask on first before dealing with anyone else, you can't help someone if you aren't even capable looking after yourself. ...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/15 02:41 AM
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mmm when did I imply that? anyways, you are asking if RPW and RP are different in their sexism. I am telling you they belive in the same theory. Therefore examples of any type of sexism (if present in one) will be present in the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/15 02:35 AM
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Yes, yes I'm all about the personal choice brah. People out there still smoke. There'll be people that still have uprotected sex. Everyone makes their own decision about acceptable risk. Just want to make sure that people are informed properly about the risk. It's one thing to say that you are fine with the increase in cancer risk, but it's another thing to deny it exists or say that it's extremely minuscule.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/15 01:00 AM
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"I ask not for lighter plates, but that I will have the gains to lift them"
/r/TheRedPill26/04/15 12:50 AM
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Lol, don't read below if you want to be able to sleep at night. The number of oropharyngeal cancers linked to HPV has risen dramatically over the past few decades. HPV DNA (a sign of HPV infection) is now found in about 2 out of 3 oropharyngeal cancers and in a much smaller fraction of oral cavity cancers. The reason for the rising rate of HPV-linked cancers is unclear, although some think that it could be because of changes in sexual practices in recent decades, in particular an increase in ora…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/15 12:41 AM
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you're hanging out with the wrong guys
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/15 12:39 AM
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Very easy solution to all of this. Police handle everything Campus works with police and students to encourage a safe environment for reporting Encourage reporting as soon as incident occurs Sexual assault education to all freshmen on day one, that makes it clear what sexual assault is, and makes it clear what resources are available should something horrendous like that happens (who to contact, support services, etc) Police meets with campus groups to encourage better sensitivity of sex assault…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/15 12:37 AM
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Your past experiences have nothing to do with this particular case, I think that's an important thing to remember when dealing with crimes as bad as sexual assault. Unfortunately, many people have had personal experiences, similar to this, whether as an accused or as a victim. It's important to put those feelings aside and look at the facts objectively.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/15 12:32 AM
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Philosophically ..no.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/15 12:30 AM
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What information, that's not on any the major articles like this one and the one by Cathy from the Daily Beast, do you have that makes your opinion so informed?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/15 12:23 AM
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That's not the point. We know that a lot of men would not do that. Whoosh He just answered your question. Some men do. yeah, probably some men do have those urges. Not most, but definitely some. And probably even some women. If by "natural" you mean does it exist in everyone? That's a pretty stupid question, but the answer is no. Ask you dad if he has had these dormant "natural" urges to rape and kill.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/15 12:10 AM
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You're saying that most women in the polyamory community "have issues" (which is very sex-negative). Also, you're implying only women have issues with being "plates"? So you would agree that women and men have different abilities to have multiple partners?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/15 12:06 AM
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The vast majority of women cannot cum from purely P in V sex. I never said that. Yeah most women need clitoral stimulation to cum. You can do that by rubbing her out while fucking or while giving oral. Unless you mean by "satisfied" that an orgasm isn't necessarily as satisfying mentally as the actual act of sex is, which I suppose could be true. Unlike men, who are satisfied and KOed after cuming, just because a woman came doesn't mean she's fully satisfied. Or that women who are insecure about…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/15 12:01 AM
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Lol i dont care about the fact that another man has fucked her, but the fact that you can get diseases from oral. HPV= major risk factor for head, neck, oral cancer
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/15 11:11 PM
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Marriage exists in society as social control. Stakeholders (government, business, institutions) don't want to make their reliable form of social control unreliable through polygamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/15 11:06 PM
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It's the effect of once you take the mystery out of something, the magic goes away. I feel the same way about music. Before I started learning about theory, I loved rock/pop music. But now I just recognize rehashed patterns.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/15 11:01 PM
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Oddly enough, me going down on a girl is the most often denied sex act in my personal experience. Dead serious. I have had girls that were down for anal and gave me blowjobs, but were genuinely afraid of being eaten out. Some of them had really nice pussies too. Agreed. I would say its because girls get self conscious about being eaten out? Also, unlike how oral might be better than sex for some guys, getting a dick often feels better than getting eaten out for girls. 9/10 if you eat out a girl,…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/15 10:59 PM
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John Stewart is just a comedian.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/15 03:56 AM
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It's not ludicrous. Read the other posts in this thread. Some feminists believe that informed consent is necessary, or else its sexual assault. Period. It's not that hard to grasp. Sure not all feminists or SJW believe it. But stop getting hung up on the label. If you want, read the entire thread and replace SJW or Feminists by "the singificant number of people that believe consent must be informed or else it's sexual assault." Do you personally believe that is the case? If so, you fit into that…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/15 03:10 AM
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again, i dont disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/15 11:28 PM
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its so that you acknowledge a bias in how you interact and work with people who are not attractive to you in the first place that is a goal that i said i agreed with in the post. good that campaigns lower discrimination. but that's contrary to the whole "fat is sexy campaigns" out there which is what I'm talking abiout. http://www.damemagazine.com/2015/04/08/yes-fat-women-are-sexy People are not born to please your genitals. I don't disagree. That is why I am against campaigns that seek to say t…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/15 11:24 PM
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dont think they are an altruistic movement, they are piggy backing on the curves are sexy movement. dove campaign is just one succesful example of that piggy backing. obviously everything a coorp does is for PR for profits.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/15 11:21 PM
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Just ctrl+find on the page to find the relevant study. The original OP's article references multiple studies in Hasleton's lab. The data you are refrring to is from: Larson, C. M., Haselton, M. G., Pillsworth, E. G., & Gildersleeve, K. (2013). Changes in women’s feelings about their romantic relationships across the ovulatory cycle. Hormones and Behavior, 63, 128-135. Download PDF. ALso on the same page. Jesus christ.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/15 09:12 PM
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jesus christ. if you don't have the cricial thinking skills to get the article based on the link you are a moron. http://www.sscnet.ucla.edu/comm/haselton/papers/ took me literally 5 seconds. Gildersleeve, K., Haselton, M. G., Larson, C., & Pillsworth, E. G. (2012). Body odor attractiveness as a cue of impending ovulation in women: Evidence from a study using hormone-confirmed ovulation. Hormones and Behavior, 61, 157-166. Download PDF Now go analyze the article (which I am sure you will be able…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/15 08:52 PM
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It's in the link provided. I get that reddit has a hard on for questioning sources but on this sub it's just ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/15 08:37 PM
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I think they take things too far . They believe that their wife will leave them even if they show the slightest weakness or vulnerability There was actually a thread while back where a TRPer said: stop being serious 100% of the time. You don't always have to be stoic, and let yourself have fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/15 08:14 PM
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yes, we can spot negging, dread, etc The thing about negging though is that all relationships do it.. It's just a dumb word for teasing. And it can be fun, if it comes out of humour and playfulness. "Dread" happens a lot in many relationships too, and it occurs on a range. If it happens too much, it's usually in an unhealthy relationship. But if it's Dread as in staying attractive enough to passively garner interests from outside parties, then I think it could be a healthy way to keep interest u…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/15 08:11 PM
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You are being overly dramatic with negging. Negging is basically a term for social introverts to understand basic banter and teasing. It's something that almost everyone does, but it's hard for those without social acuity to understand. I mean from an outsider perspective, it's true: why would teasing each other when we're adults be considered fun banter? Tell me you've never teased your partner before? That is negging. Just because you do it unconsciously doesn't change that fact. Just because …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/15 08:08 PM
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Yeah, that's on 4chan bud. TRP doesn't shame men for being betas. They will shame you for not trying to move out of that mindset though.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/15 08:04 PM
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It's not because OK Cupid says so. It's because there's a statistically significant number of people who rate asian men and black women as less attractive on average than others. On a micro level, it is very likely that it has no effect on you. If you are very attractive (asian man/black woman) of course you will attract people of all races. On a macro level, this is important as it is one means by which systemic racism can occur (if you believe this stuff). This, in turn, stems from cultural de…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/15 07:52 PM
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Interesting, yeah. What I would argue against that is these results hold true for Tinder as well which is hard to gauge one's income from. Also, if this is indeed correct, then it would suggest a weird reason for why asian men (which are in general more wealthy) are rated less highly than black or hispanics.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/15 07:47 PM
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Thanks for the honesty!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/15 09:57 PM
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Thanks for the honest answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/15 09:42 PM
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No persians are actually quite popular in the dating scene, and very different from what people typically consider asians.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/15 09:42 PM
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I couldn't give less fucks about a man coming to me for advice on how to trick women to have sex with them. You value sex in a very weird way. I personally see sex, in its purest form, as an activity, two people do together out of enjoyment. I see nothing wrong with one member of the opposite sex, making him/herself more desirable in that regard.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/15 09:38 PM
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get out of here with your... "mathematics"!! /s
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/15 09:24 PM
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Did nobody else notice that this was a study of undergraduates? No other age range was included. So, this study says a lot about undergraduates, and not much else. Lol let's throw out most psychology research to the gutter then
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/15 09:23 PM
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It totally practical. There are policies in Canada that disallow from such discrimination. The "arguments" aren't necessarily the barrier to all of this. It's the huge political power of those promote these policies. Whether acadmeics or cultural studies majors, many of those who succesfully campaign for affirmative actions have skin in the game, whether because it helps people of their own identity or because they make a living off of constructinge these policies. Just think of this: why are bl…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/15 09:20 PM
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You are right, but not addressing the crux of OP's point
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/15 07:07 PM
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TRP isnt meant to be a debate forum and it isnt. TBP is mean to be a place to discuss TRP. But they often mischaracterize TRP or cherrypick posts on TRP and make it seem like that post is characteristic of all of TRP when it isn't. TRP isnt reactionary to TBP. TBP isnt some philosophy, its a disucssion on TRP. TRP is reactionary to modern society and modern feminsim
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/15 04:43 AM
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Exposing bad ideas to the public is the quickest way to kill them. Okay then why hasnt trp self imploded by your logic?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/15 04:40 AM
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Okay you are getting really hung up on labels, which isn't the point of this post. Pretend SJW is shorthand here for people who think that consent must be 100% informed. I personally don't think that it does, but some people believe that they must know their partner's STD history for instance before "informed consent can be given". Some people believe that lack of informed consent is sexual assault. If you are like me and don't see lack of informed consent = sexual assault then we are on the sam…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/15 04:38 AM
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Umm the fact that PPD exists supports the fact that BP is anti-debate. BP is clearly a circle jerk, not a debate forum.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/15 03:05 AM
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are these attractive males aware that they are attractive? and like that they can have sex with girls for free?... you know, cuz their attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/15 02:59 AM
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The slut shaming is always implied with posts like these. No it wasn't implied. You assumed it to be because you sensed someone with an opposing opinion to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/15 02:55 AM
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its not justifying things like: women are all gold-digging bitches. the post is saying that those thoughts are often common in people before they realize that: Acceptance: "Women aren't bad. My expectations of them, and theirs of me, were based on faulty premises. They are creatures of instinct, just like I am... but of different instincts. If I learn what those instincts are, and teach them about mine, we can develop realistic expectations of each other and get along just fine." sjw on tumblr a…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/15 02:46 AM
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if a TRP posted something akin to genital mutilation - even in jest on TRP - it would get the ire of the entirety of reddit. funny how identity politics works
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/15 11:45 PM
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That said, I highly doubt you guys ever manage to be the pleasant manslut you dream of being, as you are overfocusing on putting females in their place and making them feel inferior and played. It's not a fight lol. And that is why you would never know if that ONS was with a TRPer. The succesful TRPers arent woman-hating assholes in public. In fact, they are more likely to be ones over the "anger stage" and actually accept women as human beings who, as much as men, will be assholes and act in th…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/15 11:42 PM
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youre misundesrtanding trp. They look for girls like that to plate all the time. the trpers who want an ltr would avodi you tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/15 11:39 PM
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And that is TRP in a nut shell. They want to be that one night stand. THey want sex to be an exchange, purely for the pleasure of both people. Not somethign to negotiate a relationship, some free meal, or some dating activity.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/15 11:38 PM
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/r/ladyboners But yes men are objectified. They have unrealistic standards in male "super model hunks". Women can say "mmmm channing tatum" all day long. But despite the impact this may have on males, or on boys who are insecure on their own body, this has no sympathy societally. Men aren't expected to be the victims in our world, and if a man stands up and calls society out, he'll be shamed by a) men for not being masculine and b) sjw/feminists who say that he is distracting the world from real…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/15 07:41 PM
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Okay let's take a step back and consider this from a non-personal perspective. I just want to consider what usually happens in the court systems and make a judgement on whether it is fair or not. If a stay at home spouse spends most of the time with the child during the child's lifetime, than that spouse will likely get primary custody. Moreover, pretend that stay at home spouse cheats, which led to the break up. This will have no impact on the fact that this person will likely get 40-50% of the…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/15 07:37 PM
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I would not give him sole custody of my child, no, not even primary without a dispute. I would try to get as much time with my child as I possibly could. Well currently, the consensus is that mothers tend to get primary custody as they were stay at home moms or spent more time with their child. You would probably not get primary custody, if we were totally fair. Yes it would change everything. I would fight to give him nothing As for the last point, gender equality (and the law) would argue agai…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/15 08:42 PM
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Cool!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/15 06:36 AM
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Thank you for your response! I asked this to others, but I was wondering if I could get your response to this: If I could ask, (and I don't wish this upon you in the least) say one day you guys decide that you guys aren't working, and you would like to leave each other. Would you be okay with allowing him to have greater custody of the children and the house, given that he spent most of the time raising the children? Moreover, would you willingly provide him with 50% of the net household income …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/15 06:35 AM
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But the argument is that housewives/homemakers do contribute greatly to the home environment... that's why they get a good percentage of alimony of the home's net worth. Do you disagree?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/15 06:34 AM
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Thank you for your response! I asked this to others, but I was wondering if I could get your response to this: Pretend that you were in this LTR for a decade. But then, one day you guys decide that you guys aren't working, and you would like to leave each other. Would you be okay with allowing him to have greater custody of the children and the house, given that he spent most of the time raising the children? Moreover, would you willingly provide him with 50% of the net household income if you g…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/15 06:33 AM
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Thank you for your response! I asked this to others, but I was wondering if I could get your response to this: If I could ask, (and I don't wish this upon you in the least) say one day you guys decide that you guys aren't working, and you would like to leave each other. Would you be okay with allowing him to have greater custody of the children and the house, given that he spent most of the time raising the children? Moreover, would you willingly provide him with 50% of the net household income …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/15 06:33 AM
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Thank you for your response! I asked this to others, but I was wondering if I could get your response to this: If I could ask, (and I don't wish this upon you in the least) say one day you guys decide that you guys aren't working, and you would like to leave each other. Would you be okay with allowing him to have greater custody of the children and the house, given that he spent most of the time raising the children? Moreover, would you willingly provide him with 50% of the net household income …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/15 06:32 AM
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Thank you for your response! I asked this to others, but I was wondering if I could get your response to this: If I could ask, (and I don't wish this upon you in the least) say one day you guys decide that you guys aren't working, and you would like to leave each other. Would you be okay with allowing him to have greater custody of the children and the house, given that he spent most of the time raising the children? Moreover, would you willingly provide him with 50% of the net household income …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/15 06:32 AM
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Thank you for your response! I asked this to others, but I was wondering if I could get your response to this: If I could ask, (and I don't wish this upon you in the least) say one day you guys decide that you guys aren't working, and you would like to leave each other. Would you be okay with allowing him to have greater custody of the children and the house, given that he spent most of the time raising the children? Moreover, would you willingly provide him with 50% of the net household income …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/15 06:30 AM
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Thank you for your response! I asked this to others, but I was wondering if I could get your response to this: If I could ask, (and I don't wish this upon you in the least) say one day you guys decide that you guys aren't working, and you would like to leave each other. Would you be okay with allowing him to have greater custody of the children and the house, given that he spent most of the time raising the children? Moreover, would you willingly provide him with 50% of the net household income …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/15 06:29 AM
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Thanks for the answer
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/15 06:28 AM
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Terrific. Thanks for your honest answer. If I could ask, (and I don't wish this upon you in the least) say one day you guys decide that you guys aren't working, and you would like to leave each other. Would you be okay with allowing him to have greater custody of the children and the house, given that he spent most of the time raising the children? Moreover, would you willingly provide him with 50% of the net household income if you guys do split? Would you willingly provide that to him indefini…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/15 06:28 AM
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It's statistically impossible for that to occur. Depending on the disease, if condoms are worn completely successfully, the success rate for each infection is around 95%. Multiple that by many partners (~30) and the number of possible disease they have, and take into account that those who sleep around also tend to have many diseases themselves, it's extremely likely that these persons will have a STD.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/15 06:19 AM
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Hey try not spreading medical knowledge unless you're absolutely sure. HPV is a huge problem for men and women. While men don't have cervixes, HPV is a big risk factor for oral, anal cancers and more. In fact, if smoking was abolished, it would be one of the biggest lifestyle related riskfactors related to oral cancers.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/15 06:17 AM
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old people are usually unhappy. women live longer. therefore there are more older women who are probably unhappy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/15 04:39 PM
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