palacesofparagraphs Archive

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13	Do you guys think that the Shit Test is a real thing? If so, how do you pass it? You don't. A woman who feels the need to trick you in order to be sure you won't fall for it is not a woman you want to be dating. Your partner is your teammate, not your opponent.	/r/ExRedPill	13/01/21 08:12 PM
14	Do Women like to be treated like sh*t? Nobody likes to be treated like shit. There are plenty of reasons treating someone poorly might seem to be working. People who come from abusive or toxic homes may not recognize abuse while it's happening. Even people who do recognize abuse often find it difficult to leave for a variety of reasons. People with low self-esteem or who haven't seen healthy relationships may seek validation from people who don't respect them. But that doesn't mean they like it, it just means they don't know how to l…	/r/ExRedPill	23/10/20 03:36 PM
13	I think my is losing interest in me while I recover from surgery When in doubt, just talk to your partner. People worry so much about how they'll look, but honestly most people appreciate just being told what's up. The important thing to avoid looking needy or controlling or anything else is to remember the difference between how you feel and what your gf has a right to do. If you tell her something makes you feel a certain way, and that you want a solution that helps you without hurting her, that usually goes over well. If you tell her what she can and can't…	/r/ExRedPill	22/10/20 08:02 PM
4	Help a 21 year old understand. looking at all my past relationships the girls were ONLY my teammate and very willing to build together when they were below me in terms of potential in the future. I find it's helpful to refrain from "ranking" people in terms of their prospects or situation. Like, yes, when there's a big imbalance in money, career, etc. it can lead to complications and/or conflict, but so can a lot of things. People can't be distilled down to a handful of metrics. Maybe someone is "below you" when it comes to t…	/r/ExRedPill	13/10/20 02:52 PM
15	Help a 21 year old understand. The problem with TRP isn't just that it ascribes certain patterns to behavior, but that it encourages unhealthy responses and assumptions based on those patterns. Mainly, TRP makes generalizations about men and women (generally ones that are pretty uncharitable towards women) that encourage men to look at romance as something scientific or mathematical, when the fact is that relationships of any kind are far more complicated than that. Yes, it would be nice if you could come up with a formula fo…	/r/ExRedPill	13/10/20 05:34 AM
9	Love or understand It's not true. Women are not a monolith. We're not even necessarily more similar to one another than we are to men. Men and women are all just people, with individual personalities, faults and virtues, preferences, behaviors, and ways of looking at the world. Certainly there are things women have in common with each other, but those things make up just a part of our experiences as a whole. Don't try to "understand women," because you'll inevitably fail. Instead, try to understand individual wome…	/r/ExRedPill	12/09/20 07:11 PM
1	What are the dangers of Red Pill? (it is new for me) I will say though, I never viewed women as some transaction where being nice meant I deserved sex. I certainly never felt like I was OWED anything from anyone, and I think a lot of "nice guys" are similar, so it always felt frustrating when people talked like I must think women owe me sex. I always wanted a deeper mutual connection. I just didn't UNDERSTAND why I wasn't finding it. First of all, I'm so happy for you that you were able to figure out your self esteem and find a loving relationship…	/r/ExRedPill	04/08/20 04:44 AM
43	What are the dangers of Red Pill? (it is new for me) So the thing about red pill is that it encourages you to view sex and dating as a zero-sum competition where women are your adversaries. This just isn't a recipe for a healthy relationship. The idea of dating as a game where you use different strategies to win "high quality" women gets in the way of making actual connection with other people. It's impossible to give people a single absolute value as a potential partner, because different people want different things. Someone who's really not rig…	/r/ExRedPill	02/08/20 05:03 PM
4	Am I less valuable? Sexual intercourse is incredibly intrusive physically for a woman. That's just basic anatomy. So is a nasal swab or a throat culture, and yet somehow the doctor doesn't get jealous if you saw a different doctor last time. Many times when I have fucked my wife, I have been amazed at how deeply and intimately one penetrates a woman. It is natural that a man would want to be the first to do this. Why is that natural? We have this idea that people can only have an intimate relationship with one pers…	/r/ExRedPill	01/08/20 04:08 PM
2	Someone please help me... I don’t wanna be “incel” anymore Attractiveness isn't just in the physical, it's also in your personality and how you behave. Good looks give you a leg up when it comes to meeting people, but you need substance with which to keep people interested in you. It sounds like you've got interests and hobbies; do you know that there are also women interested in stuff like art, history, and traveling? When you meet a girl you think is cute, ask her what she does with her time, what she's studying, what she wants to do with her life. An…	/r/ExRedPill	04/05/20 08:40 PM
4	I'm 21 (M) and I dont have experience with women Some of it's just experience, like anything else. You learn how to be a good partner and have healthy relationships from trying things, seeing what works, making mistakes, working through problems. Different people have different preferences just like for anything else, so you learn what works for you by doing it. But also, remember that romantic and sexual relationships aren't the mystical, complicated things we often make them out to be. At the core, they're relationships like any other: two p…	/r/ExRedPill	30/04/20 02:57 AM
4	Insecure about penis size Even apart from the fact that bigger doesn't always equal better, there's a whole lot more to sex than just how big or small you are. Of course people have preferences, but just like there are a lot of factors that determine how much you enjoy sleeping with a particular woman, there are lots of factors that go into how much she enjoys sleeping with you. I'm not saying there aren't women out there who are petty or judgmental or who'll disparage you to their friends, because there are. But they're…	/r/ExRedPill	10/03/20 03:32 PM
46	Fucking on First Date I've been thinking about a repulsive aspect of the PUA ideology, that because women clearly ride the "cock carousel" during college, I should oblige her by trying to get in her pants on the first date. Redpill grossly calls this a "pump-and-dump." Truth be told, I still want to fuck her, because that's how college dating is as I perceive it. However, I am willing to listen to the potential merits of abstaining (or not). So you've clearly realized that referring to sex in such crude terms is disr…	/r/ExRedPill	08/03/20 08:22 PM
6	Girls cannot sense or smell out weird creepy insecure or abusive men because if they did they wouldn't fall for them all the time. Women are not a monolith. What's creepy to one person may not be to another. How a woman responds to a man she just met depends not only on his own behavior but also on her personality, habits, preferences, and level of security in herself. Just because most women peg a creepy guy as creepy doesn't mean there aren't women who are insecure enough to respond to his creepy advances. Likewise, just because most women can identify that a particular guy means well even if he comes off strangely doesn'…	/r/ExRedPill	08/03/20 08:16 PM
6	Thoughts on the “number count” for women? I mean relative to the average for that person's age. 2 is only super high if the person is like, under 14. It's arguably super low if the person is like, 40 and unmarried. Otherwise, it may be above or below average, but not significantly outside the common range. Basically, having had way more sexual partners than most people can be an indicator of rashness, not taking relationships seriously, etc. But it can also be because of so many other things. Similarly, having had way fewer sexual partn…	/r/ExRedPill	07/10/19 10:51 PM
4	Thoughts on the “number count” for women? Unless it's super high or super low, no need to even think about it. If it is super high or super low, that's potentially a red flag for other issues, but only potentially. Human beings, their sex lives, and their attitudes towards relationships are much too complicated to be summed up in a single number.	/r/ExRedPill	07/10/19 05:32 PM
8	Does divorce families have anything to do TRP? Coming from an unstable home certainly can negatively affect your ability to have positive relationships. It can be hard to recognize unhealthy behaviors if you don't have a healthy relationship to look up to. That said, coming from an unstable home can also positively affect your ability to have a healthy relationship, because it can give you something to work against. I remember watching how my dad treated my mom and promising myself I'd never let my partner treat me that way. It's also import…	/r/ExRedPill	29/09/19 04:43 AM
8	Hey Dudes! Yes, you should absolutely get away from TRP, mgtow, etc. While not as extreme, I have some understanding of your situation because I went to a girls' school from age 12 to age 17, so I had very little interaction with boys I wasn't related to. Going into college, I definitely viewed them as "other" and mysterious, and I didn't really know how to interact with them at all. Here's what I discovered: boys are just other people. There's nothing mysterious or particularly different about them. There…	/r/ExRedPill	26/09/19 06:15 PM
2	What is self love From my own observations in my own life experience, loving yourself is next to Impossible. You can tell yourself how good you are or nice or pretty or handsome you are all you want but there are always going to be people who are better than you at something You don't need to be the best at everything--or even anything--to be valuable or worthy of love. Think about the people in your life that you care about. Why do you care about them? What do you like about them? Your friend is a really good li…	/r/ExRedPill	12/05/19 04:26 PM
31	Is it true that women aren't interested in guys who live with their parents? It all depends on the context. I'd say initially it raises a yellow flag, just in a "huh, potentially not great" sort of way, but there are lots of reasons to live with your parents. Like, a 23-year-old who lives with his parents while paying off student debt and saving for his own place is one thing; a 35-year-old who lives with his parents and isn't saving is another. It also depends what kind of relationship he has with them. Like, does he live in their house as a child, or as an adult? How d…	/r/ExRedPill	09/05/19 04:32 AM
2	How do I stop this thinking? The biggest thing you can do is manually train yourself out of it. Whenever you have one of those thoughts, flag it and consider it. When your mind goes to "who is she texting?", take a second to actually think who she's probably texting, and remind yourself that you want her to have healthy relationships with her friends and family, so it's a good thing if she's talking to them. When your mind goes to "I better not be too affectionate or she'll lost interest", take a second to think about how s…	/r/ExRedPill	11/04/19 03:11 PM
13	Hatred of Single Moms and Right Wing Nut Jobs Dating a single parent always comes with complications, particularly if you don't have kids of your own. Kids change a person's lifestyle hugely, not to mention that there's often another parent involved who's outside your relationship, and depending on how amicable or hostile it can be, that can complicate things a lot. But to claim that all single mothers (or even most) are damaged in some way is a massive generalization. There are so many reasons someone might end up a single parent, from rap…	/r/ExRedPill	28/03/19 11:16 AM
3	Any communities/websites that dive in female psychology without the misogyny? Obviously there is some competition between people, because we do choose our partners and generally have more than one option. But to assume that everyone exists on a single axis from most to least desirable is an oversimplification. All people are complex. We all value different things in a partner. Attractiveness is valuable, and so is success, but so are kindness, honesty, a similar sense of humor, a similar worldview, compassion, hobbies, strength. We can't rank potential partners best to wo…	/r/ExRedPill	19/03/19 03:04 AM
26	Any communities/websites that dive in female psychology without the misogyny? Women aren't a monolith, and we aren't another species. We're individual people just like men are. We are socialized to behave differently from men, but there's a lot more variation among women than there is between women and men, and vice versa. The best way to approach women and relationships is to remember that we're all individuals looking to form partnerships. Dating isn't a game or a competition, it's the formation of a partnership between two individuals.	/r/ExRedPill	18/03/19 10:12 PM
2	Are there any modest and traditional women left? Of course there are still women like this. There are plenty of women who want to be stay-at-home moms, plenty of women who don't like showing skin, and plenty of women who take life seriously. There are women who are any combination of these things, including all of them. Bars may not be the scene to find the person you're looking for, both because they don't tend to attract the personality type you're looking for, and because they bring out a different side of those people when they are there. …	/r/ExRedPill	18/03/19 04:34 PM
1	Red Pill Husband Would he ever be open to the possibility of couples therapy? It sounds like he's being invalidating enough that a mediator might be necessary. Sometimes a professional can help people better gauge what is and isn't a legitimate form of communication.	/r/ExRedPill	05/01/19 11:49 PM
5	Red Pill Husband That does not sound promising. You need to impress upon him that he needs to interact with and respect you as an individual, not as a woman or a template or anything else. He also needs to recognize that there is a difference between emotion getting in the way of conversation and emotion being part of a conversation. The fact that you're crying doesn't mean you don't have a point. Emotionless rationality isn't always the superior mode of communication. Relationships are about how we feel, so you…	/r/ExRedPill	04/01/19 10:08 PM
9	Working with women has become an issue for some men these days with harassment charges becoming so all-encompassing. What do you think? It's really not that complicated. If you wouldn't say/do it to a male coworker, don't say/do it to a female coworker. Don't touch people without their permission, don't stare at people (particularly at their chest/butt/etc.), and don't make sexual comments to coworkers. That's pretty much it.	/r/ExRedPill	04/01/19 07:11 PM
3	Red Pill Husband How have those discussions gone so far? Has he generally been receptive to what you say, and have you seen changes in his behavior accordingly? I think the most important thing to emphasize to him is that it's not about the philosophy, it's about your relationship as two individuals. He shouldn't follow some prescribed doctrine about how to treat your wife, he should talk to his actual wife about how she wants to be treated, just as you do for him.	/r/ExRedPill	04/01/19 07:08 PM
15	Red Pill Husband You need to talk to him about how his behavior is making you feel. Rather than criticizing red pill philosophy as a whole, which may make him defensive, it's probably more effective to talk about his specific behaviors and how they affect you. "I'm frustrated with our lack of communication." "It's hurtful when you dismiss my emotions, and it makes me feel like I can't confide in you." Most importantly, come to him in the spirit of collaboration, not attack. He may be too far gone to save the rel…	/r/ExRedPill	04/01/19 06:46 PM
50	Having problems keeping a neutral perspective on women and marriage. Stop thinking of women as a group and start thinking of them as individuals. One of the biggest disservices heteronormativity has done us (and there have been so many) is imposing on us the idea that men and women are fundamentally different from one another, and that we're opponents rather than teammates in a relationship. Men and women certainly have differences, but at the end of the day we're all individuals with a variety of complex qualities. Furthermore, any relationship, romantic or plat…	/r/ExRedPill	26/11/18 07:34 PM
7	Is a women's body language a subconscious message about how she really feels? Does it show hypergamy to be true? Of course a person's body language tells you things about how they feel, but that has nothing to do with hypergamy or "betas" or whatever. People who are interested in a conversation tend to lean in to the other person. People who are disinterested or want to get away tend to sit back. But that has more to do with conversation than posed photographs, in which people consciously alter their body language. You should definitely pay attention to women's body language when interacting with them. If …	/r/ExRedPill	22/10/18 04:31 PM
15	How TRP nearly made a rapist. My experience following The Red Pill There have been a fair number of "same resume, different name" studies that demonstrate that we perceive white people (particularly white men) as better than people of color even when they're not. Class and wealth also certainly play a huge factor--and are very much tied to race--but race itself does also shape a person's interactions with society. Being white doesn't mean you will necessarily be attractive or wealthy, but it does mean that you're less likely to get hassled by police on a regula…	/r/ExRedPill	14/05/18 04:23 AM
17	How TRP nearly made a rapist. My experience following The Red Pill I mean, being white does put you at a significant advantage just, like, in life. It's similar to being tall, attractive, born wealthy, etc.; it's a trait you just happened to get that generally makes your life easier.	/r/ExRedPill	14/05/18 04:13 AM
2	Q4PP: Respectful way to break up a long-term relationship? Honestly, if you've reached the decision, then you should tell him as soon as possible. Spending another month together is not a good idea. Do you have somewhere to go if you break up with him now? Can you stay with your parents until you leave for your internship? As soon as you have somewhere else to go, you should have the conversation. Tell him that based on the previous conversations you've had about your issues, you've realized that being with him isn't going to work out. Be kind and firm.…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/05/18 05:00 PM
2	Is a man or immoral if at 23.... Having a conscience doesn't necessarily mean that what's right always makes you happy and what's wrong always makes you sad. It means that despite whatever emotions you have about the consequences of particular actions, you have negative and positive emotions associated with immoral and moral actions themselves. So like, if I steal something I really want, I might feel good about having it, but I'll feel bad about stealing because I know stealing is wrong. If I turn myself in for stealing, I mig…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/05/18 09:16 PM
5	Is a man or immoral if at 23.... I mean, if you've got a conscience, then your emotional reaction is usually at least somewhat of an indicator of the morality of the action.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/05/18 09:03 PM
42	Why so much focus on women? Because that hatred of women stems from rejection in the first place. TRP men want to have sex with women and believe they are entitled to it. The whole philosophy is based on the idea that women are men's opponents in the sexual "game", but the goal of that game is still to get laid.	/r/ExRedPill	21/04/18 04:07 PM
5	Q4Women: Why is being confused for a prostitute insulting But lots of women seem to find being mistaken for a prostitute to be highly insulting. I saw one thread where several women said if it happened, they'd feel cheap and go home and re-evaluate their clothing choices or where they were walking. A lot of it comes from people looking down on sex workers. If you think being a sex worker is shameful, then obviously you're going to be upset if someone assumes you are one. Is it because female sexuality is inherently valuable in ways that male sexuality …	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/04/18 07:45 PM
7	Question for Women: Can you please explain your attitudes and opinions towards sexy clothing and the attention it gets you? Um, that's not what I said? I said sexual attraction is okay when it's respectful, but creepy when it's not. How attractive the guy is has bearing on whether or not you'll reciprocate, but not a lot of bearing on whether or not you feel threatened by him.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/04/18 07:32 PM
3	Question for Women: Can you please explain your attitudes and opinions towards sexy clothing and the attention it gets you? A lot of the things you mention are factors. We can point to specific behaviors: direct staring, starting with an overtly sexual comment, or getting too much in your physical space are all things that are likely to creep a woman out, while a friendly smile, opening with compliments about nonsexual features, or striking up a casual conversation are likely to work well. But we can't possibly name every single creepy and non-creepy behavior a guy could possibly engage in, especially because the lin…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/04/18 07:30 PM
13	Question for Women: Can you please explain your attitudes and opinions towards sexy clothing and the attention it gets you? Is there a difference between objectification and just acknowledgement that you can easily identify? Yes, and this is at the core of it. I think the thing that's often not explicitly said is that there's a difference between positive sexual attention and creepy sexual attention. When people say women dress attractively for ourselves, we don't mean that literally only the woman herself should think she looks good. Obviously the confidence that comes from looking good is based on the knowledge tha…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/04/18 01:02 PM
2	Q4All: What are some rules of thumb for gaining and maintaining consent? Yeah, but pretty much everyone understands consent in non-sexual contexts. People only think sexual consent is complicated because our social expectations surrounding sex are all kinds of fucked up. Drawing the comparison between sex and boxing makes it simple: you both need to clearly agree to the activity, otherwise one of you is committing a crime.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/02/18 02:18 AM
13	Do you have an example of institutional or widespread sexism that is prevalent today? Sure: School dress codes often have have different standards for male and female students, and it's common for the reasoning behind female dress standards to be that revealing clothes will distract the boys. Women are expected to wear makeup, do our hair, etc., but a woman who thinks too much about this stuff is vain/shallow. Media about women is considered only for women, but media about men is considered for everyone. Movies with female leads or female ensembles (The Force Awakens, the new Gho…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/02/18 08:24 PM
5	Do you have an example of institutional or widespread sexism that is prevalent today? Yeah, I think I would consider this a microaggression. A microaggression is anything that's racist/sexist/homophobic/etc. but isn't a particularly big deal. So, a casual remark, stereotyping someone in passing, etc. The reason we have the term is to explain how small, seemingly insignificant behaviors can contribute to larger dynamics of prejudice. Like, when someone asks me, "No, but where are you really from?" it's usually out of ignorance rather than bigotry, so it seems inappropriate to call…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/02/18 08:02 PM
5	Why are American men faithful to their wives? It's perfectly reasonable to have a problem with a culture that devalues women, and to not want to date men who don't respect women. But to paint an entire region of the world as sexist assholes is really simplistic, and pretty insulting. South Asia especially is becoming more progressive all the time, and there are plenty of men there who don't disrespect their partners. Maybe get to know people before assuming their heritage makes them a sexist asshole.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/02/18 06:21 AM
6	Why are American men faithful to their wives? Divorce certainly happens, but it's still really stigmatized, much more so than in the US. It's also really uncommon, so it just isn't an option many people think about. Americans tend to view divorce as a possibility, but Indians tend to think of marriage as forever. It's like if you come from a highly educated family, especially in a community that's highly educated as a whole, it might never seem like a real possibility for you not to go to college. Like, you know not everyone goes to college…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/02/18 06:18 AM
2	Women are the gatekeepers of sex. They shouldn't give sex away so soon if they want a relationship And if that's how you prefer it, then that's how you should have it and more power to you. But since you were asking why other people might have sex for reasons other than to conceive, that's why.	/r/ExRedPill	20/12/17 03:09 AM
2	Women are the gatekeepers of sex. They shouldn't give sex away so soon if they want a relationship Because sex is fun!	/r/ExRedPill	19/12/17 10:12 PM
2	Give me non-RP opinions: Is it possible for a guy to just be friends with an attractive girl? Of course it's possible. Like, you can recognize that a woman is attractive without wanting to sleep with her, whether because you're already in another relationship or because you're sexually incompatible. It's pretty easy to be friends with someone you don't want to sleep with. If one or both of the people are attracted to each other, that makes friendship harder, but still not impossible. Then it becomes much more a question of setting healthy boundaries and letting the attraction fade natura…	/r/ExRedPill	13/12/17 06:14 AM
3	I feel so embarrassed There isn't an adult in the world who doesn't cringe at some of the stuff they said, did, and believed as a teenager. High school is a bizarre period of time where you have adult emotions but no coping skills and very little ability to be rational. It leads to some pretty bizarre and embarrassing outcomes. Try not to worry too much. The thing to focus on is that you got away from a toxic worldview quickly, and that speaks to your maturity and self-awareness.	/r/ExRedPill	13/12/17 06:10 AM
1	Q4All: Post A Pic of Average Men & Women Um, this woman is nowhere near borderline obese. She's not stick-skinny, but she's definitely not fat.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/10/17 03:58 PM
1	A thought on "nice guys" Of course not. Thinking you're owed sex (or a relationship) just because you were nice to a girl is misogynistic. "Nice guys" are only the ones who get angry when rejected because they think they've somehow earned the right to sleep with you. A guy who wants to sleep with you but accepts your right to say no is actually just nice.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/09/17 06:47 PM
1	A thought on "nice guys" The issue isn't guys who form a friendship and hope for sex or a relationship. The issue is guys who then act as if they've been wronged when the girl refuses. A guy who is attracted to a girl, gets to know her, asks her out, and accepts it when she turns him down is actually nice. A "nice guy" is one who feels she owes it to him to say yes just because he's nice to her. There's a big difference.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/09/17 06:44 PM
1	In general, are (straight) women less attracted to men than we are to them? It seems like it, because most singles are men, men are usually the ones who initiate, and there's a lot more men who can't get a date than women. Statistically, this doesn't make any sense, unless there are a lot more men in the world than women, which there aren't. Men also get more aggrieved over divorces and breakups than women, and it seems like divorces are usually initiated by the woman. However this could be more because women tend to have more friends and social support than men, who so…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/09/17 06:40 PM
2	CMV: TRP is ABUSE. This Abusive Behavior Checklist reads like the TRP sidebar. Caring about your partner's feelings is a necessary part of a healthy relationship. Hell, caring about other people's feelings is a necessary part of existing in society. How long would you hang out with a friend who called you a fat fuck? My point is that trying not to hurt someone's feelings doesn't have to mean lying. There are plenty of ways to be honest, even about unfortunate truths, that don't involve being brutal or unkind. Yes, the truth can hurt sometimes, but there's a big difference …	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/09/17 06:26 PM
4	CMV: TRP is ABUSE. This Abusive Behavior Checklist reads like the TRP sidebar. There's a big difference between "brutally honest" and just "honest." If your wife is fat, you can tell her so without calling her "a fat fuck." Look, fat people know they are fat. They don't need to ask. If your wife is asking you if she's fat it means she's not, although she may have gained weight recently. It's also honest to say, "You've gained some weight recently," or "You're getting a bit heavy." If she asks you a question and then gets angry about you answering honestly (not rudely, but …	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/09/17 04:01 PM
2	Drunk sex, consent and the tattoo analogy. The girl should not automatically be the victim, and the guy should not automatically be the aggressor. The fact that we still look at it that way is rooted in all kinds of sexism and the whole idea that sex is something that women guard and men pursue. I think things get complicated when both parties are drunk, but I think it comes down to whether or not one person is too drunk to tell that the other one is too drunk to consent. The whole idea of someone being too drunk to consent is based on o…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/08/17 03:35 AM
7	Drunk sex, consent and the tattoo analogy. The question isn't whether or not the person who got blackout drunk was behaving responsibly or not. Obviously they weren't. The question is why we act like it's not really rape to have sex with someone who's too drunk to consent. Like, it's also dumb and irresponsible to walk around high crime areas at night covered in expensive jewelry, but that doesn't mean the robber isn't still robbing you. If the police caught the robber and took them to court, no one would be like, "Ah, but the victim sho…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/08/17 05:44 PM
4	Serious question for discussion: Please explain to me why women cannot simply say "NO, STOP DOING THAT, I DON'T WANT TO DO THIS" and then remove themselves from the area, when faced with unwanted sexual behavior Life is not an amusement park where all the fear can be removed and all the hazards neutralized. No, but there's a very big difference between a world in which there is no fear and a world in which other people actively threaten your safety. If you get mugged while walking home at night, would it be reasonable for me to tell you that you should've just told the mugger you weren't giving them your money? That if you're scared of muggers, then you shouldn't have been walking home at night in the f…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/08/17 04:43 PM
7	Serious question for discussion: Please explain to me why women cannot simply say "NO, STOP DOING THAT, I DON'T WANT TO DO THIS" and then remove themselves from the area, when faced with unwanted sexual behavior I'm saying all people are responsible for asking permission before invading other people's space and/or bodies, and that they are responsible for allowing the other person the freedom to say yes or no. If I want you to do something, I need to ask you, and I need to not threaten or intimidate you to the point where you feel you can't say no. You asked why women have trouble saying no. This is why. We are afraid. But we are not unconditionally afraid. We are afraid when men give us an indication t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/08/17 04:33 PM
11	Serious question for discussion: Please explain to me why women cannot simply say "NO, STOP DOING THAT, I DON'T WANT TO DO THIS" and then remove themselves from the area, when faced with unwanted sexual behavior The point is, all healthy interactions require both people to show respect for each other's wishes. We ask permission to do things to/for/with other people to demonstrate that respect. It's not unique to sex that failing to ask for permission might turn a kind action into a disrespectful one. I appreciate when my mom offers to help me pack for a trip, but I'd be pretty pissed if she just started putting stuff into my suitcase without asking me. I may or may not want her help, and she doesn't kno…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/08/17 03:58 PM
12	Serious question for discussion: Please explain to me why women cannot simply say "NO, STOP DOING THAT, I DON'T WANT TO DO THIS" and then remove themselves from the area, when faced with unwanted sexual behavior If a man intimidates women without noticing or caring that they're scared, he should not be alone in public, let alone with women, let alone drinking with women. If a man is going to be in public places, getting intoxicated with women he doesn't know, he goddamn well needs to be able to control himself and make sure his sexual partner wants to be his sexual partner. If he can't be smart enough not to get so hammered he can't help raping people, he needs to be chaperoned. This is not about women.…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/08/17 03:12 PM
7	Can I get my husband to leave TRP? Remember that while your husband may eventually leave TRP, that decision has to come from him, and you're not required to rescue him from it. Obviously you love him and want the wonderful man you married back. As a good partner, you want to help him. All of that is good. But you're not required to stay. Your health and safety come first. If he's controlling and raping you, you have every right and every reason to get out now.	/r/ExRedPill	11/08/17 09:37 PM
25	Can I get my husband to leave TRP? Um, if your partner's depression causes them to try to control you and even rape you, you are totally justified in leaving them.	/r/ExRedPill	11/08/17 09:34 PM
15	I've found ERP. So what's the difference between ERP and BP? I think your biggest mistake is to assume you have to follow a particular ideology or sexual strategy in the first place. The idea that one set of rules works for everyone is massively flawed, because both men and women are individuals with their own personalities and tastes. The best way to find partners that are good for you is to present your real self in the best way you can, and to treat women with respect. You say TRP was somewhat successful for you, but you found yourself attracting only …	/r/ExRedPill	19/07/17 03:11 PM
7	Single mom households Very few people set out to have children with irresponsible partners. It happens for lots of different reasons, but it's rarely intentional. A woman might end up with a deadbeat partner because she's a bad judge of character, or because he didn't display any indications he was irresponsible before she slept with him, or because she has low self-esteem, etc. She might end up with a child by this guy because her religious beliefs prevent abortion or even contraception, or because abortions/contrac…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/07/17 02:27 PM
1	Do BP women and men really believe in "her body her choice?" I'm not talking about men and women carrying themselves differently, or about them having different physical attributes that are attractive. I'm talking about how we see women as sexy when they're weak and men as sexy when they're strong. I'm talking about how women are reduced to our body parts in ways that men aren't. (Images NSFW) Why is a man's ass emphasized like this rather than like this? Why is a woman's chest emphasized like this rather than like this? Why is this how we advertise unise…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/06/17 04:42 PM
1	Do BP women and men really believe in "her body her choice?" I addressed this in another response; I think I didn't express my point the way I wanted to: I think I was unclear by what I meant when I said, "A sexualized woman is one in a position of weakness or vulnerability, while a sexualized man is one in a position of power." I don't mean sexuality makes them strong or weak, I mean the things we find sexy in men and women are different. You can see it easily when comparing how we portray men and women in contexts where both are supposed to be sexually …	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/06/17 02:07 PM
1	Do BP women and men really believe in "her body her choice?" So being a teacher or nurse is misogynistic too? No, because the gender of the teacher or nurse is irrelevant to the job; it doesn't affect who they teach or how they teach them. But female sex workers primarily serve men and vice versa. So if we have many more female sex workers than male sex workers, that is a symptom of a particular gender dynamic in the industry. I think I was unclear by what I meant when I said, "A sexualized woman is one in a position of weakness or vulnerability, while a …	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/06/17 02:03 PM
0	Do BP women and men really believe in "her body her choice?" Absolutely, but the details and dynamics of the industry are rooted in misogyny. Just the fact that sex work is a female-dominated industry is an indication of these dynamics. There isn't the same proliferation of male sex workers not because women don't desire sex, but because we have a societal expectation for men to be very sexual and for women to be much more ambivalent about sex. There's also the question of what's considered attractive in a man or a woman. Obviously individual tastes vary,…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/06/17 06:42 AM
12	Do BP women and men really believe in "her body her choice?" They don't have to be mutually exclusive. You can support a woman's right to do what she wants with her body and her sexuality, and also recognize that sex work in our society is rooted in a lot of misogyny. It's like how on an individual level you can support a woman's decision to be a stay-at-home mom, and also recognize that on a societal level there are societal pressures influencing that decision.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/06/17 06:13 AM
8	XRP, I have a dilemma. Unlike other commenters, I do believe there's such a thing as unconditional love, but I think it's very rare and not even necessarily healthy (my mom's unconditional love for my brother is good for him, but has really done a number on her). What does exist is honest, open, healthy love, and that is what you should strive for. You are not unreasonable for wanting a relationship where you can be fully open with your partner. That's what you should want, and what you deserve. If women aren't capabl…	/r/ExRedPill	01/06/17 04:36 AM
19	Anyone here no longer browse TRP/Manosphere but still hold the same beliefs? I still view women as lesser than men, still view them as sex objects, and honestly I don't want to change any of that. First, why not, and second, then why are you here?	/r/ExRedPill	29/05/17 04:36 PM
3	Hey ex-redpill here Have fun with that, preferably somewhere other than here.	/r/ExRedPill	28/05/17 08:40 PM
2	"No sex today unless you promise not to tickle me" Well if shes my girl chances are shes put up with some tickling so it will never be a "new activity" Yeah, but there has to be a first time, right? I also dont know any ticklish person who doesnt say stop, I know when to stop myself. You still have to listen to people when they tell you to stop doing things to them. If someone actually likes tickling, they may tell you to stop, but after you do, they'll tell you they like it, or to tickle them again. But you don't get to decide that they don't r…	/r/askTRP	23/05/17 12:42 AM
4	"No sex today unless you promise not to tickle me" She hates being tickled more than anything. I love doing it. Then you may not be compatible. But her withholding sex for this is unacceptable yet such AWALT behavior. First of all, she's not obligated to have sex with you any time you want. She can say, "no sex tonight" whenever she doesn't feel like having sex, just like you can. If it's a long-term thing, then you're having relationships issues, and it's certainly not cool for either partner to use withholding sex as a manipulation tactic. But…	/r/askTRP	22/05/17 07:12 PM
2	"No sex today unless you promise not to tickle me" First of all, no it wouldn't. But that aside: There's a HUGE difference between "We're comfortable enough together that I don't need to verbally get consent for each new activity" and "My girlfriend has no right to revoke her consent for this new activity." You probably don't need to ask if you can tickle her, but you sure as hell need to stop if she says stop.	/r/askTRP	22/05/17 07:07 PM
3	For ex-redpillers; I have a few questions for you? I think you're taking a simplistic view of love. Just because someone doesn't love you now doesn't mean they never did. My parents were madly in love for 20 years, and then it fell apart slowly, and now they hate each other. But that doesn't mean they were just pretending to love each other before. Neither of them got married intending to divorce. It was a sad thing that happened to them. Furthermore, divorce doesn't necessitate screwing the other person over. You can have a clean, amicable spli…	/r/ExRedPill	22/05/17 04:28 AM
3	For ex-redpillers; I have a few questions for you? Doesn't really matter if she loves you, she can just change her mind one day. I mean, that's true of anyone you're close to. Does that mean you should never form close relationships because you risk them ending badly? Also, if you love someone, you don't "just change your mind one day." It certainly might fall apart, and that's very sad, but it's very unlikely it's going to be because your wife just suddenly doesn't feel like being married to you anymore. It's not "some people" when the divorce …	/r/ExRedPill	22/05/17 04:03 AM
6	For ex-redpillers; I have a few questions for you? Because I want to know why you take it as a given that your wife will want to divorce you. If she loves you, she won't want to divorce you, even if divorce would economically benefit her. Like, you're economically incentivized to kill your parents and inherit their stuff. But even if you knew you could do it without getting caught, you probably wouldn't kill your parents, because apart from it being wrong, you probably love them and don't want to lose them. Sure, there are some people in the wor…	/r/ExRedPill	21/05/17 01:23 PM
3	For ex-redpillers; I have a few questions for you? Do you think a relationship with a woman can be fulfilling for reasons other than sex even if you are also having (and enjoying) sex with her?	/r/ExRedPill	21/05/17 04:50 AM
3	For ex-redpillers; I have a few questions for you? Honest question: do you believe a relationship with a woman can be fulfilling for reasons other than sex?	/r/ExRedPill	21/05/17 04:33 AM
10	For ex-redpillers; I have a few questions for you? What does "equal" mean to you? Equal means that neither group is better or worse. Legally it means we have the same rights. Socially it means one group doesn't get treated better than the other, and that people's gender doesn't determine what they can and can't do. even marrying the perfect unicorn is risky as all hell Okay first, don't call women unicorns. Unicorns are mythical beings. Women are people. Furthermore, there is no such thing as a flawless woman, just like there is no such thing as…	/r/ExRedPill	20/05/17 12:55 PM
4	For ex-redpillers; I have a few questions for you? Not was equality is. Yes it is? Two people can be very different from one another and still be equal. Not when culture and state get involved What does that even mean?	/r/ExRedPill	20/05/17 05:19 AM
16	For ex-redpillers; I have a few questions for you? I don't think I "hate" women I just think women act/ are different than men. I do not think they are equal. You don't think we're the same, or you don't think we're equal? We can be equal without being the same. I came to understand they are not prizes to be had, they are liabilities. Women are neither prizes nor liabilities. We are human beings. A good and healthy relationship can be a positive thing in your life. A bad and unhealthy relationship can be a negative thing. But if you don't view y…	/r/ExRedPill	19/05/17 02:49 PM