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PS, my argument is a bit pedantic regarding OP's major point, as there is a lot of additional evidence that women do indeed find muscularity attractive. In terms of the effect size of muscularity on attractiveness, research actually shows it to be the third most important trait influincing attractiveness, only behind height and facial masculinity.​
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 11:56 PM
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No, you are misunderstanding my point. Muscularity could predict mating success even without female choice for muscularity (i.e., women finding muscularity attractive). Rather, muscularity could predict mating success because more muscular men directly out-compete less muscular men in mating competition (e.g., by being more assertive in a group setting, cockblocking other men through intimidation). Basically, human male muscles could be more like elk antlers (used for fighting other males over a…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 11:47 PM
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The news article you linked is about a paper that showed that muscularity predicted mating success. It did not investigate whether the link between mating success and muscularity was due to female choice or male-male competition. Probably both are involved. I agree with you that there is science out there that shows that muscularity is attractive to women, but this paper isn’t a good example of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 06:49 PM
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They are saying that there is more variation within the sexes than between them. You are saying that there is more variation between the sexes than within them. These statements are in opposition.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 05:56 PM
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But the person you are replying to is making the opposite point. I don't know which of you is correct; would need to actually see some data.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 04:53 PM

There is some research to suggest that at least part of the gender gap in domestic household labor between married men and women is due to preferences. This comes from studies comparing the amount of domestic labor among single men and women living alone, which is quite a bit lower among the former.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 07:00 PM
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Can you provide some actual survey data about men's attitudes to sex workers? From talking to other men my whole life, and from th comments if lots of other men in this thread, it appears that most men don't look down or want to be cruel to s x workers. They just don't want to date them. Or would you consider not wanting to date sex workers looking down on them and being cruel?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 04:47 AM
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Yes, this is exactly it. OP's premise is just plainly incorrect, IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 04:36 AM

Great answer. I would just add that females maturing earlier than males occurs in most non-human primates species as well. Most mammals, in fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 03:43 AM

It is a great argument. You aren't the first one to think of it. AFAIK, it hasn't been implemented anywhere yet, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 03:41 AM

Girls begin puberty earlier than boys, so it would make sense to say that they mature earlier. This is something that happens even in non-human primates. For example, in rhesus macaques and baboons, females reach sexual maturity and first reproduction earlier than males, who often have a later, more pronounced adolescent growth spurt
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 03:39 AM
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I thought that pedophilia was sexual attraction to children, not people in their 20s?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 05:36 PM
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Sam Harris thinks covid is a hoax? Source please.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 07:08 PM
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Good for you. Keep at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 02:03 AM
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Exactly. The naturalistic fallacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 12:21 PM
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I don't think we are disagreeing here. Just one generation of inbreeding between first cousins can substantially increase the risk of genetic disorders, but that substanitally increased risk can still be unsubstantial when viewed relative to other factors that increase health risk much more.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 06:32 PM

Ah, ok, I see what you mean now. However, I think that OP probably meant "biggest" in the sense of most common thing for men to be really upset about, and was asking what the equivalent common and really upsetting thing would be for women. I don't think that your interpretation makes much sense, as you wouldn't really expect the sexes to differ in how upset they would be about their partner being a serial killer or their HIV status, and OP was asking about sex differences
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 06:25 PM

Yeah, ok, a 2 to 4 or a 3 to 6 both represent a doubling of the risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 01:32 PM

Yes, reproduction between second cousins causes an insignificant or almost insignificant risk increase compared to reproduction between unrelated parents. But I was responding to your post saying that there was no substantial increase in genetic risk to offspring of first cousins after only one generation of inbreeding. The risk doubles. And how the increased risk of first cousin mating compares to other factors is yet another question entirely. I don't know much about that, but assuming the fig…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 01:16 PM

I haven't seen one comment like your second paragraph though.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 12:34 PM

Even just the first generation of matings doubles the risk of genetic disorders. It is doubling (6%) a pretty small number (3%), but I would say that that qualifies as a substantial risk increase.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 12:30 PM
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Like, it can take a medium high attractiveness person to a very high attractiveness person. Does this also "not really matter"? It is the same thing as going from very low to medium low.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 07:08 AM
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Yes, losing fat and gaining muscle WILL indeed help even if you have ugly facial features and bad skin. Will it completely compensate? No, of course not. But it can take a very low attractiveness person to a low or even medium-low attractiveness person.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 07:06 AM
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Because of evolution. This is a cross-cultural universal. Same answer to OP's question as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 10:59 PM
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Do you have a citation for that 5% figure? I remember reading a study a while ago that ranked how important various male characteristics (e.g., height, face looks, status, etc.) were to attractiveness. As I recall, the results lined up to what you report here: penis size mattered, but not that much; the effect sizes for other traits were much larger. I would love to be able to provide this citation for debates like this. But it sounds like your study may only be about physical characteristics; t…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 12:05 AM
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This exchange is very interesting and shows how different the average sexual psychology of men and women is. There was even an "experiment" where a woman fed up receiving random dick picks decided to send out random vagina pics to give men a taste of their own medicine. She was surprised and horrified by the generally positive responses! https://www.marieclaire.co.uk/news/woman-sends-vagina-photos-30114
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 11:46 PM
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Not disagreeing with you. Just provided some more detail to your comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 06:07 PM
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Yes, obesity is highly heritable, meaning that a large proportion of the differences in weight among individuals in the population are due to genetic differences between individuals. But those genetic differences include a lot of things other than metabolism or things like that. These genetic differences would also involve things like willpower, how much they like exercise, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 02:27 PM
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