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I’d say men on the whole are worse today than previous generations. They’re less capable, less confident, less knowledgeable, less fit, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 12:55 AM
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'll never believe women who claim to be attracted to guys that have ambition or drive simply because there is no real way to evaluate that and even if that wasn't the case it wouldn't mean anything. Sure there is, it's action towards those goals. If you're constantly talking about your "big ideas" but don't do anything with them, that's not ambition or drive, that's just fantasizing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 10:27 PM
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Yeah, I think it’s hot that my wife is so obsessed with me she wants to check where I am.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 04:24 AM
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haha god you killed him
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 05:53 PM
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I think this is easy to say if you hit the milestones like a regular person.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 05:51 PM
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based jannie hate, CLEAN IT UP
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 05:44 PM
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holy loly
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 05:43 PM
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(Dont come now with dorks like elon, bill gates etc, i am talking about real status, not beeing a rich nerd.) You think rich nerds would struggle to date? Elon has like 9 kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 05:32 PM
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Isn't this basically what most of the guys on here are asking for? Women who aren't attracted to them to be attracted to them?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 06:59 PM
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I've been with my wife since right after I turned 18, we got married right before college ended when I was 24. I'm really happy I went through college with my wife and that she was with me as we've built our careers. I feel bad for people who didn't build those same relationships, there's a lot of depth you're missing when you date & marry late.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 06:10 PM
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I'd marry V.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 06:35 PM
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Ok, in what way? What does it mean to commodify our social lives, how is it happening, and why is that a bad thing? Your point about people moving away for work isn’t really true either: eighty percent of people live within a hundred miles of home, so people largely aren’t leaving what they know. When we talk about debt load, and particularly student loan debt, it’s clear that the cause of that is government intervention in the market for college education. It’s not hard to extend this line of t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 03:01 PM
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So women aren’t benefiting from financial independence from men and having their own career paths?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 02:27 PM
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Don’t break an arm jerking yourself off there, your crummy source didn’t even confirm your claim that humans cant do more than 4 hours of quality work in a day, just that office workers tend to fuck off for half the day. In a source that’s half advertisement for a time tracking app. He doesn’t say anything about trades workers or other types of employees. I think you’re a bit of a dumbass dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 01:54 PM
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Right but you’re not contradicting my point that it’s a very modern problem. Like it should be really easy for you to prove your point since you clearly feel that you’re right, why not whip out a study and prove your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 01:51 AM
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Notice that there’s not really any sources or actual evidence here, it’s just a bunch of stuff that “feels” true.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 01:49 AM
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Lmao I think I’m gonna need something a bit more rigorous than blog.amazingmarvin.com
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 01:48 AM
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Yea blame feminism aka women if we blame capitalism men might have something to do with it. Read more closely. Men are the problem, feminism has just given women the independence to disassociate from men. PS don’t you think capitalism benefits from women’s influx into the labor market? And their subsequent consumerism? I think you're conflating terms here. "Capitalism" just means markets. "Benefiting" from a huge influx of labor just depends on whose point of view you're looking from. For men, i…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 10:44 PM
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People also haven't suddenly just stop socializing either. It's also been a gradual decline, that has kept pace with the rising cost of living and working hours. I don't think this is true though. Male loneliness in particular is an extremely modern problem. Doesn't make sense to completely negate cost as a factor to people socializing less. It just doesn't strike me as a major factor, because we know that there's always been a cost involved in travel of any sort, but loneliness and isolation is…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 10:37 PM
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You're missing my point. These costs didn't just suddenly spring up. People have known that gas costs money and that the bus costs money and that taxis cost money since Henry Ford put together an assembly line. Your explanation simply doesn't fit with history. The increase in loneliness and isolation is an extremely modern phenomenon.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 10:28 PM
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40 hours is overworking, the average human can’t perform any more than 4 hours of deep work a day. Says whom?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 10:25 PM
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When a majority of wealth is concentrated in a few hands, it always has dire effects for society at large. [citation needed]. Vast concentrations of wealth were the norm for ages and the Roman empire lasted for like 1500 years with extremely concentrated wealth. Why do you think that is? Because we went from a labor shortage after World War 2 to a labor surplus. The economy isn't zero-sum, as you seem to be implying.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 09:10 PM
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So capitalism does value those jobs, perhaps more than the state does. It's not like your school taxes zero out when you send your kids to private school, you still have to pay for the public side too.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 09:05 PM
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Socializing today requires more money. Even if someone wanted to do something free, often they need to pay transportation costs to get to if it's not close enough to walk to. lol bus fare is not what's causing people to become shut-ins, come on now.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 09:04 PM
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3 people have as much wealth as the bottom 50% of the country. Those 3 people aren't peasants. Your average person is not substantially richer or poorer than another average person. Bezos's wealth has no bearing on my or your ability to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 08:54 PM
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This dude's blaming capitalism for getting bullied, I mean how much more off the rails can he get here?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 07:40 PM
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I think this is too reductive. By what means is capitalism prohibiting people from starting families? If anything we should look to feminism as a far better explanation. Now that women don't need to depend on men financially, many women are choosing not to be committed to them in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 07:15 PM
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Right, there's also very little wealth inequality between "peasants" today. You still haven't explained the mechanism causing this problem here either.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 06:59 PM
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The problem relevant for dating isn't capitalism. The problem is wealth inequality. Dirt farming peasants have gotten married and had families for thousands of years, how is wealth inequality harming this?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 06:35 PM
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I think the real problem is how liberal capitalism or progressive capitalism is making people toxic and atomizing individuals which is ultimately killing traditional culture norms such as courting culture that both men and women benefit from. Ok, by what mechanism? This is total buzzword salad that you're presenting as settled fact. Basically I believe capitalism is not just overworking people and making things harder to afford but also breaking up communities and dividing people up and making t…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 06:33 PM
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People always cook up these weird hypotheticals. But reality is that most people date in their class (more accurately: proximity). There could be a 10/10 working at Safeway but I’ll never run into her because we simply operate in different orbits.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 03:49 AM
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If you're in the 6 figure range then essentially doubling your purchasing power is still a major bump to your lifestyle, surely that's apparent.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 08:35 PM
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The issue is, will she be hot enough or young enough to compete with the other women the men could get, because men don't have an income requirement? Most people marry in their class, so even if men don't say there's an explicit income requirement the reality is that the manager at the engineering firm isn't dating the hot chick working at the sandwich shop in the lobby of the building.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 08:26 PM
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I heard Patrice O'Neal talk about this once on Opie and Anthony. Basically escorts in the US will generally treat you like a dirtbag and not attempt to make any connection at all while developing world escorts will genuinely try to sell you on the experience. He described going to Brazil along the lines of getting treated like Julius Caesar.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 04:59 PM
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Alexander Skarsgård What "interesting" facial features does he have? He's like the most generic handsome dude I've ever seen.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 04:25 PM
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I'm a male, I don't really have a specific facial type but I think my wife is beautiful and I tend to like large noses, if I was going to pinpoint a feature I like. Body-wise I prefer short, plus-size women, but only as long as the distribution is even, and apple shapes are right out.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 04:23 PM
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I’m laughing at the tone of the posts in this thread versus the thread right above it about nightclubs in Thailand. Where are the women talking about how wrong it is and how pathetic the men are?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 02:41 PM
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If you wouldn’t date or be with these guys anyway why do you even care what they’re doing? If anything shouldn’t you be glad these losers are ejecting themselves from the dating pool so that you’re not running the risk of being approached by them?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 02:25 PM
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I think you don’t understand what dating is like for men. You’re talking about “genuine desire” but most men rarely/never get that sort of attraction from women. And most relationships start out transactional as well, regardless of whether it’s dinner and drinks in the US or a nightclub in Thailand. But I’m going to guess there are orders of magnitude more posts about awful dates with disinterested women on here than there are about bad experiences picking up women in Thailand, even if you norma…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 02:16 PM
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If people don’t unconditionally love each other than they shouldn’t be in a relationship What does this even mean? If it turns out my wife is a serial killer I should stick by her?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 10:35 PM
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Sex is what separates romantic relationships from being roommates.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 06:34 PM
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I LOVE the juxtaposition of this post with your most recent post saying that you basically can't stand sex with your husband anymore. Truly magnificent.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 05:37 PM
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What makes them “very good”?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 12:58 AM
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Right, he’s desperate enough and you’re abusive enough that this situation “works” for you. Are you a sociopath?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 02:20 AM
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He “consented” in the sense that he knew it was either allow an open relationship or get a divorce. You seem like a bit of a shitty person.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 02:04 AM
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It’s weird the abuse men will suffer to stay with a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 01:54 AM
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Always let her be the one to initiate This doesn't work for the vast majority of men though? Women overwhelmingly don't approach men and don't want to approach men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 11:13 PM
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Me: “You’d probably come running to me if I randomly hit you up in a month to fuck even if you were dating him” That you laid out this line didn't strike you as a huge red flag for the relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 10:26 PM
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No, they're too thin.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 03:58 PM
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she isn’t. ain't this the friendzone?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 06:47 PM
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Differential analysis doesn’t play into the point I’m making, I’m explaining why women who avoid lots of casual sex are valued. Men who abstain from pornography and OnlyFans spending are similarly valued. Again, temperance has been valued for thousands of years.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 11:05 PM
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The vast majority of men don't do this, but I also think most women are turning up their nose at these types of men as well, for similar reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 09:56 PM
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ELI5: What is “morally good” about a man desiring “innocence” and “purity” because it makes his dick harder and nut more intense? Temperance has been understood as an extremely important virtue for literally thousands of years.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 09:23 PM
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Yes. He swooped in on my first girlfriend in high school when we broke up and then pined after another girl we were friends with when that fell apart. They eventually got married and he's completely subservient to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 04:57 PM
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I got two, it's easy and fun, dang I love babies. Falling for doomer news stories on reddit just makes you a sucker.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 01:12 AM
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Women don’t shit on other women because most of us have been there at one point or another. There are plenty of women who do exactly this and there have been numerous recent viral videos of women talking shit about body positivity and fat women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 07:35 PM
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Damn I show off with all these categories.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 06:37 PM
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Women are building healthy and supportive human relationships. This is funny because women are also widely known for not really being able to be friends with other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 06:32 PM
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Good women, of course. The onus has always been on men to improve in all areas of their lives, while women are constantly being told that they're good enough as-is, and that their red flags are actually just male insecurity.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 08:23 PM
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This: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/1125j8m/the_officially_published_and_recirculated_data_on/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 08:07 PM
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There was a whole other thread on this today where the OP pointed out that the research only talked about women earning a wage, and excluded entirely non-wage earning women in relationships. This brought the number down from nearly 40% to 15-16% Edit: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/1125j8m/the_officially_published_and_recirculated_data_on/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 08:05 PM
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Right, both events are extremely rare. So when women say they’re living in fear or whatever you know that’s bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 05:11 AM
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Men have to be worried about being murdered literally all the time, not just in the context of dating. You seem kinda dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 11:29 PM
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Men are far more likely to be murdered than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 02:17 PM
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How about Marcus Aurelius?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/23 12:47 AM
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Criminy
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/23 08:04 PM
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You can just admit you’re not part of those circles. People marry in their class, and high earners typically marry high earners.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 01:44 AM
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Look at how many men on ppd complaining about the disappearance of a traditional wife? How many of these men do you think are high value? Stay at home moms are more of a middle/lower-class kinda thing, where the cost/time investment of childcare means it makes more sense for her to stay home than to go earn $12/hr at the grocery store.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 01:06 AM
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Most of the OP was complaining about black women and how the average black man can’t measure up. And at the end of the day the stats exist. Hell, the stats are what black women have been complaining about for years. Calling it “racist” is a lazy cop out indicating you’re incapable of producing a good response. What else do you want to call it? My dad went to a Filipina dating website and almost literally picked her out of a catalog. I think you aren’t really prepared to be challenged on any of y…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 02:17 PM
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The stats exist though, and you don’t even need that much discretionary income to go pick up a mail order bride. My dad did it and he’s basically broke. I notice there wasn’t an answer to my question in your response though.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 01:49 PM
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My question is: what does the average black man actually bring to the table? The stats paint a pretty grim picture of low earnings, high rates of domestic violence, high rates of child abandonment, low rates of marriage, low educational achievement, and so on. You’re blaming black women for being fed up with this but what are average black guys actually providing in the relationship? Heck, what do you bring to the table? You’re below average income for your area, below average height, likely not…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 01:39 PM
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They’re obsessed because recently there’s been a lot of societal pressure (example: your post) for guys to just accept these women as if a huge number of previous sexual partners wasn’t a gigantic warning siren for thousands of years. Guys on here talk plenty about what they want, I’m not sure what you’re getting at with this line.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 09:39 PM
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Insecurity is such a lazy way to frame this. To me, high partner counts imply a lack of stability and a lack of logical thought processes that I simply don't find desirable. Calmness and stability are important to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 08:38 PM
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Today, we have our own careers. We graduate university at higher rates than men do. We own property. We pay our own rent. We pay our own bills. I wonder if this has changed enough to overthrow the longstanding fact that white men are the only ones in the country who are net contributors to the federal government's budget.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 08:33 PM
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Childfree single women are the happiest demographic. Quick reminder that this ain't true, and that this claim was based off of one researcher's misunderstanding of an entry in a time-use survey.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 09:30 PM
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I’ve got a pretty big friend group but that might make me an outlier? I don’t know any woman with as many friends as I have.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 06:50 PM
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It should boil down to: have decent personal hygiene, be a nice person, don't be an asshole, take no as an answer, and keep trying. This isn't advice, this is all baseline shit everyone is doing. Advice is what you need when what you're trying isn't working. People shouldn't be coming on reddit for dating advice, because most of the advice is like what you've written. But literally nobody has ever come back and made a post that was like "I got a haircut and took a shower and now I have 4 dates."…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 05:43 PM
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Reddit loves punching bags. I suspect a lot of this has to do with many/most redditors getting bullied when they were younger, so now that there are some socially acceptable groups to target those subreddits are very popular. You see this with certain celebrities like Chris Brown. Any time this guy is mentioned dozens of people will turn up to shit on him.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 02:42 PM
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it's "complements"
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 08:26 PM
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Hahaha fuck this was funny
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 10:57 PM
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God I’m glad I’m 6’3” and earn $200k.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 10:42 PM
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I’m curious about how this map would look if it had divorce rates among age brackets included. I don’t think the younger generations are getting divorced at the same rate as the older ones are. Of course, that could be totally anecdotal. I don’t think my situation of having parents divorced at a very young age is particularly unique. But I think a lot of us who had this sort of experience growing up recognized that getting together with the first person to bat their eyes at you is truly foolish.…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/22 05:29 AM
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Lmao teach yourself differential equations but don’t take life too seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 05:21 AM
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This reaction is childish and so is the fact that you've got a response speech all planned out.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 10:01 PM
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I'm sort of surprised that people haven't done a little more deep diving. Only one other person in the comments has noted that Paul Dolan's study on spousal happiness (and the "shocking" outcome) has been completely debunked. Essentially his claim revolves around women's responses to a question regarding happiness while their spouse "isn't in the room." Paul took this to mean that they asked the questions to the couples, then had one person leave, then asked them again. But what that question ac…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 06:56 PM
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My IQ is closer to 140 and my degrees are in mechanical engineering and physical science, plus I'm (slowly) working on an MBA. I know how you feel though, I have the same standard (education is required).
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 09:47 PM
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I meet these except N=2. I knew I was high value.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 08:45 PM
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Yeah but what about the remainder? How are the other women failing to find similarly career-minded men? I guess I've only seen it from the male end, where guys are marrying professional women but I'm still surprised at this part.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 05:35 PM
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I'm in my late 20s, and all of my female friends are 25-40, gorgeous, successful, wonderful, and many are single by choice. They have options, but the men they meet are simply not at their level. They don't have good attitudes, good careers, interesting hobbies, or (seemingly) friends, or really bring anything to the relationship. Maybe they'll have one or two good quality out of, like, the bare minimum requirements for a good partner. I find the career part a little surprising because people te…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 05:28 PM
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I'm not missing the point, I don't understand it. I wouldn't tolerate shabby (or worse) treatment as an 18 year old and I wouldn't accept it now. These certainly aren't things that you can only uncover by being with a ton of different people either, like if your boyfriend subscribes to an OnlyFans and you don't like it, that's, what, a 5-minute conversation? What does adding more partners onto that actually change?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 07:08 PM
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I know how I want to be treated. I simply cannot understand how you don't know this instinctively. "Hmm what would it be like to be treated like shit? Oh it sucked? Well at least I know now."
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 04:08 PM
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Questions of taste aside - and let’s be frank there is far more shocking shit on the internet than this - to me their problem seems to be that the notion of using men as a means of improving their lives mostly boils down to Getting Stuff. If the goal of these relationships is to end up with their lives improved at the end of them they should be looking for these guys to cough up for, like, graduate school in a high earning field. Trading your time for baubles and trips just seems kinda dumb, it’…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 12:39 AM
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Tons of stuff. The #1 item at the top of the list is to stop being so pointlessly violent. Killing someone because they scuffed your shoes is not just horrifying, but embarrassing and pathetic. Quit accepting the bare minimum when it comes to your work. If you're in your late 20s and beyond and you're a cashier or something, you need to get your life career on track. There are plenty of opportunities out there but all of them are going to take some discipline and effort to achieve. Get off of fu…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 03:33 PM
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Just one, my wife, we’ve been married for like 11 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 03:17 AM
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Exactly, the health outcomes are better for men than women, not the happiness outcomes. Which your other link explains as men taking better care of themselves. The idea that single childless women are the happiest of all simply isn't true.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 09:34 PM
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Unfortunately you've fallen for some bad science that has been stubbornly sticking around. Paul Dolan - the person quoted in the psychology today article - pretty infamously completely misinterpreted survey results and then pushed a narrative about single women being happier. https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/2019/6/4/18650969/married-women-miserable-fake-paul-dolan-happiness
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 08:57 PM
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I just don't understand how dads are abandoning their kids, I absolutely adore my family. My two boys want to be in a dogpile with me pretty much from the moment we get home until it's time for bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 05:00 PM
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And yet, to your shock, he comes to you looking for help, because he cant get laid! He says he wants to have sex with lots of different hot women, that he sees men doing that all around college, but he doesnt know how, and he cant ask his friends because they dont know either. Hahahahahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 05:22 PM
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So maybe it's just "low tier" men who think they're average or "top tier" that don't care. Common refrain on here, low values talking about what they think high values want.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 03:51 PM
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Most men don't care all that much about how many fancy degrees you've got or how much you focus on your career. We want intelligent, driven women; but the actual degrees and careers don't matter as much. Are you running in these circles? I'm an engineer and I've never seen someone in a professional career go off and marry the hot waitress or whatever. My wife being college educated was incredibly important to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 03:43 PM
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It’s definitely because I’m 35 and therefore out of touch but there’s no way even if I was single that I’d want to talk to a woman who had a fuck buddy, much less pursue her.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 02:54 PM
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I'm not going to watch whatever contrived scenario is in the link, but the thread question is something I've borne witness to in real life. I work at an automotive OEM, and started my career sitting next to a young woman in an office that was probably 85% men, and most of the 15% who are women were/are over 40. More than anything it seemed exhausting. No fewer than 5 times a day would she have to endure some thirsty guy's attempts to woo her, some of them would bring gifts or toys to play with a…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 05:28 PM
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We hear it all the time, the list of things men do not care about: you degree, your job, your accomplishments, your stupid girl hobbies, your thoughts and ideas. Isn't it funny how noisy low value men are about what they think high value men want? I've never understood this.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 05:59 PM
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I'm an engineering manager, I married my wife because she was also intelligent, well-read, calm, patient, and very much into me. We dated all through college and got married right before graduation.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 03:49 PM
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Of course not, just like ugly women don’t get the same attention and rules from men as pretty women get.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 05:37 PM
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In what way? All the dudes that I've known whom were miserable were struggling to date. Being a single guy these days looks totally horrid to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 04:41 PM
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My friend group is populated almost exclusively of happy, long-lasting marriages and partnerships. I've got the longest-lasting marriage at 11 years but I'm a little older than most of the guys so that's not too surprising.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 04:07 PM
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The fact that you jump right to how you'll dole out incredible violence when we're talking about your personality problems is very telling. Unfortunately for your wish for me, I've been happily married for over 11 years now. Sounds like you're going to wind up alone though. Enjoy it!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 03:42 PM
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The reality is that if she wound up actually fighting that guy, she'd get absolutely clobbered. The boyfriend was right to immediately deescalate the situation. A lot of women don't seem to realize that social norms are the only things protecting them from getting punched through a wall in these sorts of situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 05:38 PM
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In relationship: how you operate finances in relationship? We mix funds, both of our paychecks are direct deposited into the same account (retirement accounts, kids' college funds notwithstanding). How much and how often do you spend money on your partner (on stuff like gifts, dates, vacations)? How much and how often does your partner spend money on you? A few hundred bucks each month, usually on meals and treats. We generally don't wait for the other to spend money on us (seems weird), if we h…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 04:23 PM
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Weird thoughts. Ultimately your past boyfriends would have been better off to avoid you, just by definition. And given the history it sounds like your current one would be better off cutting ties as well but who knows! Maybe you've changed.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 04:19 PM
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This implies that the relationships didn't work out, so ultimately the guys would have been right to follow this line.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 03:40 PM
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You can totally jump right into childcare, literally most of human history has involved exactly that. You cannot, however, just jump into water purification or welding.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 09:58 PM
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Good effort at evasion. But this is a copout, of course, industrial jobs are not things that untrained people can simply jump into, and many jobs - pipefitting, welding, logging, etc. - require physical strength that women largely do not possess.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 07:48 PM
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What do you think is harder: cleaning a house or industrial salt production?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 07:24 PM
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I'm so thankful I'm 6'3". Of course I've also been married for over 10 years so I have no experience with how dismal the dating market is.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 06:05 PM
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That's an easily solvable problem though, just have guys take turns keeping an eye on the kids. What are women going to do about power generation or clean water if the men refuse to work?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 06:00 PM
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Wishful thinking for sure, these women weren’t mining coal or making salts for purifying water. It was basically just an inconvenience.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 05:48 PM
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Exactly, women can do cute stuff like this sort of demonstration. If men did it people would die.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 01:48 PM
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Sounds like a concession to me! But the examples you point to simply aren't required for society to run in the same way as power generation or water purification are. Women can do those jobs because men make society stable enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 10:59 PM
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And those women wouldn't be able to have books without men manufacturing and operating the printers (let's not even talk about where the paper comes from), without men manufacturing the writing utensils (and the tools to make the utensils), without men delivering the food to the grocery store that the women pick up for dinner, without men providing the power that allows the women to refrigerate and cook the food, and the thousands of other jobs overwhelmingly performed by men to make society go.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 09:49 PM
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You haven’t even attempted to consider women’s contributions to the fields you listed, Because at best they're secondary to what the men provided. Men are overwhelmingly responsible for modern infrastructure. Women simply are not paving roads or building houses in anything other than small numbers.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 06:16 PM
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None of these men would have been able to do any of it without women. What're you referring to, like, them being born or something? In which case those women wouldn't exist without men either. (and men often take the credit for things women do - I don't know who does plumbing in the Midlands and neither do you). This is industrial grade copium, plumbing is overwhelmingly a male profession.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 06:15 PM
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JFL no one thinks being a math genius will help guys get laid, what are you smoking? My wife loved that I was the math team captain and mvp in high school. It always gets a laugh when I bring it up with other people too.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 06:05 PM
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I likely designed the trucks that hauled everything from the lumber for the house to the concrete for the data center to the groceries at the store. But the comparison was the societal burden between the sexes, and it’s clear that men simply provide far more to society than women. Can you not accept that?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 03:43 PM
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This cracks me up. You wrote this on a computer designed by men, using an operating system designed by men, transmitted via internet protocol designed by men, which was routed through a network hub designed, built, and maintained by men, in a house built by men, connected to roads built and maintained by men, plumbed by men, with fresh drinking water provided by men, defended by men, with sewage and garbage services designed and carried out by men, powered through a substation designed and built…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 02:21 PM
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Right, this is why your anecdote isn’t data. The dudes making $22 aren’t making a big deal about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 02:12 PM
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This post is really interesting because of how incompatible it is with reality. Like there’s no way you’ll wind up with, say, the guy making coffee at the coffee shop because he’d never be able to afford things like travel, home ownership, or a nice wedding. So clearly you do value some level of ambition, but, what, you feel bad saying it? Unless your idea of travel is going to the motel down the road and home ownership means a trailer in a trailer park.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 01:07 PM
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It’s kinda like if you have to say you’re the king, you aren’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 06:49 PM
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I'm 35 and I'm very thankful that my hair is thicker than ever. I've grown it out over Covid and it's down to my shoulderblades. Fun to play with too. There are tons of bald dudes at my work, I feel bad for em.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 05:56 PM
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Demanding she be "submissive" and when she objected to that he changed to "fit and friendly." Haha good lord imagine actually saying this out loud.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 05:54 PM
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About 700 women die during pregnancy annually according to the CDC, the rate is something like 17 out of 100,000 live births (OECD countries are around 8 or 9 so it's not a huge number either way). This is compared to over 5300 on the job deaths (overwhelmingly men) each year.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 04:13 PM
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“Married people are happier than other population subgroups, but only when their spouse is in the room when they’re asked how happy they are,” Dolan said to the crowd, immediately challenging the idea of marriage equaling #goals. “When the spouse is not present: fucking miserable,” he added. Remember that this is totally misunderstanding what people were actually saying. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vox.com/platform/amp/future-perfect/2019/6/4/18650969/married-women-miserable-fake-paul-dolan…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 03:59 PM
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Very nice, hot AND dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 11:51 PM
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You’re trying to say that the definition of “seed” is also applicable as the definition of, like, seed fungus. Which it isn’t, because everybody understands those things as wholly different.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 03:22 AM
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It's not a straw man, your comparison is bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 09:51 PM
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Will a tumor become a human given enough time? Or is this a bad comparison?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 09:03 PM
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You might have done that at some point but I'm guessing that early on you were getting taught, explicitly, by the dudes you were sleeping with.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 05:47 PM
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This just sounds like teaching to me. You basically did a worksheet, turned it in, and got a grade. Sometimes they offered some constructive feedback. Isn't that literally teaching?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 04:23 PM
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I became a good lover through trial and error. Uh, isn't this exactly the opposite of what you're saying? Someone taught you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 03:49 PM
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Incel has become a humorous term because it implies that women's worth is in their capacity to have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 05:33 PM
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lol the pick of the litter, most redditors shouldn't be dating in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 06:23 PM
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Is the need to be able to abandon your kids really one that you feel is important?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 04:05 PM
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It can't be simple but also be a 17 point plan for improvement, those are conflicting ideas.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 01:05 AM
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I apply them separately but I've been using a combination shampoo-conditioner for several years now.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 04:28 PM
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The rules and stuff they have on dating seem fine to me. Don't date low income men, don't date men who don't put out effort, don't date criminals, etc. You might think that stuff is obvious but that's the sort of man my sister-in-law wound up with so maybe that's the sorta thing she should've read.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 04:05 PM
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I've been married for ten years but a lot of the generic stuff I saw them post seemed basically fine to me. Heck, my sister-in-law probably would've benefited from reading some of their threads, maybe she wouldn't have gotten stuck with her low value husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 05:01 PM
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I hope you like monastery living.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 03:57 PM
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Every day I thank God for my 6 figure salary.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 10:16 PM
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Oh sorry, I've never taken finasteride, and never will.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 10:14 PM
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I'm 35 and my hair is thicker than its ever been. I grew it out past my shoulders too for fun over Covid.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 10:12 PM
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Honestly if you're super concerned about her $30 bill for dinner or whatever you're probably not financially ready to date in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 03:44 PM
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man I haven't played HoN in years.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 06:12 PM
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I can appreciate the idea that you should basically wait until someone obvious crosses your path, as that's essentially what happened to me with my wife. I was freshly 18 and hadn't dated in a couple years but she started working at the same restaurant as me and was obviously interested. So there's definitely situations where it can work out. Reddit as whole, though, seems to trend towards impoverished and mentally ill, and those two wrinkles make it a lot harder for that kind of advice to work.…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 03:42 PM
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I've never heard anything like this before in my life but it also just struck me that I don't know any guys who were asked out by a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 09:02 PM
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Something I didn't see mentioned is that dating advice for men has become incredibly stale, because nobody wants to tell the truth about dating. So you get dudes just being given the same advice of getting haircuts and showering because nobody wants to admit that a pretty good chunk of the male population - and the ones most likely to be posting on an advice subreddit - will never have any luck with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 04:29 PM
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Your side of the argument was more compelling and I'm loving how smug you are so I declare you the winner.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 04:16 PM
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LeBron James is way cooler than Jordan ever was. No way.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 03:51 PM
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My wife and I each only had one partner before we met each other, so it wasn't a big deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 05:51 PM
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Making money has a ton of benefits beyond just attracting women, chief among them increased lifespan and happiness. Aside from that, I don't think the men using money to attract women are upset at gold diggers.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 03:36 PM
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I'm 35, I met my wife when I was 18 and she started bartending at the restaurant where I waited tables.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/22 10:15 PM
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Finances make it extremely difficult, I think. My wife and I are spending about $1000/mo on childcare for our youngest in our area, and I'm guessing most urban areas are similarly priced. I hate to blame stuff on boomers, but I remember spending lots of time at my grandma's house as a kid, and she was very involved in our care. Neither of my parents are really involved with our kids at all (and neither of them seem particularly interested), and I'm thankful that my mother-in-law has been so will…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 04:12 PM
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Yeah, but nobody’s saying “go get paid” when they’re giving out advice, which I find baffling, because poverty seems to be quite common on Reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 04:08 AM
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A big salary is tied to so many positive outcomes there’s no reason to avoid it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 12:04 AM
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The gym advice is ubiquitous. Getting a high earning career should be every man’s A1 priority over everything else. Women might say they like fat guys or dad bods or whatever, I’ve never seen a woman say she preferred poor men to well off men. If you’re in your 30s and you’re not making at least $35-40/hr that’s the biggest thing to change. Money is tied to happiness, health, and longevity.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 11:52 PM
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You can level up or die a loser. This is definitely true, where I think men fall down on reddit is that the dudes who aren't getting dates are the ones giving advice to dudes who aren't getting dates. So it becomes this circular thing where everybody's being told to get haircuts and go to the gym. It's the whole "you ask a fisherman how to catch fish" adage, but redditors are guys standing on the pier watching the fishermen bringing back fish and talking about how they could totally catch more a…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 06:04 PM
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Bless you
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 04:58 PM
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I got this reference.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 11:06 PM
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You're not describing most people though. The overwhelming majority of people are capable of feeding themselves, and trying to date when you cannot meet even the most basic of needs is selfish, and shows you've got bad priorities.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/20 07:06 PM
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Just because you're poor in the United States doesn't mean your bad priorities made that happen. This isn't what I'm saying. If you're poor to the point that you cannot meet your basic needs, and you go on to try to date knowing that, you're making bad choices. Women who think that money just falls into the laps of American men need to look up how the wealth is distributed here. Only the top 1 percent can afford even the humblest existence. Oh nonsense, I have a six figure salary and live a perf…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/20 06:52 PM
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I don't think most of them are begging for food on a regular basis? But again, we're not talking about those guys, we're talking about a guy in the US. That speaks to bad priorities and an unstable life, two qualities that are horrid in a dating partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/20 06:32 PM
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If your life is in such dire straits that you literally cannot feed yourself, how can you be a good partner to someone? It's selfish to try and date when you're incapable of meeting your own basic needs.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/20 06:26 PM
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I'm going to challenge that claim, I don't think that most of the world is going hungry. But aside from that, we're not talking about starvation in the developing world, we're talking about a guy living in the richest country in the history of the world whose priorities are so screwed up that he's trying to date when he literally can't even feed himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/20 06:19 PM
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And I don't see how that guy thought trying to date while he's literally having to beg for food was a good idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/20 06:12 PM
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I’d guess the majority of men approaching the women in fds are low value. And “scrotes” is just a reaction to the redpill terms for women like “holes.” Yeah I just don’t see it. Fds is funny and basically right. Makes me glad I got married ten years ago though, dating seems fraught with peril these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/20 04:15 PM
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What makes it misandry? I don’t think they blanket hate on men aside from a way of venting. Mostly they just hate those they’ve identified through their criteria as being low value.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/20 03:16 PM
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People don’t find fds hilarious? They had a screen cap on there yesterday from a guy who tried to take his date to a soup kitchen that made me laugh hard. To me the advice they give women just seems to make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/20 02:59 PM
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It's down to like 35% as far as I'm aware. The weasel words indicate you don't actually know. Meanwhile marriage rates are at a historical low, for the reasons I mentioned. Marriage rates are low because millenials, on top of being pickier, are putting off marriage to do things like establish careers and go to college. And men to work more hours and make more money.They are also the ones who WANT to do more chores. Single men do less chores than single women too. Women don't divorce for chores. …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/20 01:11 AM
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I'll use my own marriage as an example for why I think becoming a stepparent first is a bit of a sad circumstance. My wife and I spent 10 years together before we had our first son. During that time, we were able to grow together, fall deeply in love, and spend a long time as each others' top priorities. Someone who becomes a stepparent right away - like my brother-in-law - won't have that part of the relationship, which I think is a shame, because it's really really great. Maybe they get that b…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/20 12:05 AM
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The 40% statistic is outdated, and it mostly reflects bad baby boomer marriages dissolving. In reality the divorce rate is plummeting, and millenials are more likely than ever to maintain strong marriages when they actually get married. Divorce mostly being initiated by women also ignores the role that men play in women deciding to get divorced. Women, for instance, are still expected to bear most of the burden with regard to housework, even if they're working the same hours as the men. Men repo…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 11:45 PM
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How do you know the chances of a bad outcome are “much MUCH higher”? Are you a sociologist? Have you done a statistical analysis?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 10:58 PM
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I agree, the friends I've known who've had trouble with women have always had personality flaws that made them unappealing, such as being obsessive with girls they were interested in or being unwilling to make moves to actually date a woman (while whining about the girl dating someone else). Appearance really has little to do with it because, shockingly, most people fall somewhere under the bell curve range of average.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 07:12 PM
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I’ve never posted in this subreddit but the thread was locked because of this one crosslinking the post. But the tone of the comments doesn’t seem dramatically different and, even if there are 10:1 lurkers to posters here you wouldn’t have that much of an effect on the posts in there. I guess I’m not really sure why your crosslink warrants an immediate closure of the thread. To me, I’m not sure how you vote anything other than they both suck. She sucks for the obvious reasons of trying to lord h…
/r/MGTOW06/09/19 12:20 PM
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This happened to a buddy of mine. What was even weirder was that the second kid was named after me. Like...he had to have known at that point.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/04/19 08:21 PM
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And the truth. It sort of goes hand in hand.
/r/MensRights05/12/11 04:05 AM
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Otherwise known as the correct view.
/r/MensRights04/12/11 07:07 PM
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