pancakesyo_ Archive

Upvotes	Title	Category	Author	Subreddit	Date (UTC)
45	We need a modern mythos of "the Average Man"	CMV	pancakesyo_	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/08/23 04:07 PM

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–	Women are becoming accepting of their own averageness yet desire above average in men more than ever before For men to have sex for the sake of it they have to take the woman out. Men are able to look at a woman who doesn’t check every physical boxes and even be a tad bit awkward and odd, and still take them out for a date. Yes, male and female sexualities are very different but no one still can have it all.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/09/23 08:19 PM
–	Women are becoming accepting of their own averageness yet desire above average in men more than ever before Can’t argue with that lol	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/09/23 07:22 PM
–	Women are becoming accepting of their own averageness yet desire above average in men more than ever before Yeah, but the problem is the less people engaging in relationships the less children there will be. Which will eventually slow down future job markets and production due to less young people. Which will affect programs such as social security when we hit our golden years. We are looking at a future where a lot of people are literally going to work until their 80s, and it’s not going to be pretty.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/09/23 07:13 PM
–	Women are becoming accepting of their own averageness yet desire above average in men more than ever before Off topic, why are you paying a man let alone a straight man to rate your looks? I’m glad you’re content, but man I think the whole Wheat Waffle rating services is kind of weird.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/09/23 07:06 PM
–	Women are becoming accepting of their own averageness yet desire above average in men more than ever before Aesthetic industries that are set up by other women, to improve solely physical attractiveness. I literally hang out with socially awkward (some are even autistic) nerdy alternative girls where all it took was a physical glow up to get noticed and chosen by men. Not once were they told, maybe their personality are off-putting and needed changed. Meanwhile, men are not only told to do the same (especially these days) but they also have to be social savants, have money, be handy, be intelligent an…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/09/23 07:03 PM
–	Women are becoming accepting of their own averageness yet desire above average in men more than ever before It sounds like we need to dismantle and rebuild our dating and sexual dynamics. The problem isn’t women nor men, but the unwillingness to put away the archaic gender standards and norms such as male provision. You’re correct we are in 2023, women are more than capable of taking care of themselves and are self-sufficient. Why are we still asking men for provision? No seriously, this whole rising standards issue can be fix if we were to just to throw away outdated cultural artifacts and start dati…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/09/23 06:26 PM
–	Women are becoming accepting of their own averageness yet desire above average in men more than ever before I have close female friends and two sisters, and I can say there is some truth to it beyond the hyperbole. Its less to do with looking for perfection, and a lot to do with introspection and self improving. Women are usually told that they should embrace their personalities “never change for anyone” in the name of self-love, while men are told to jump on the self-improvement treadmill and they’re need fix themselves. There’s a reason the self improvement culture is mostly dominated by men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/09/23 06:10 PM
–	Women are becoming accepting of their own averageness yet desire above average in men more than ever before Dating sucks for both genders, but the reasons and circumstances are completely different. For women, they go through rough shit with their exes which creates a steel exterior to protect themselves from getting hurt again. For men, they’re either asking why won’t women date them or how can I attract women. I think most of the men who falls into the Red Pill antics are those who asks the latter while the capital “I” men asks the former. I agree that people should pursue whoever they’re attracted …	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/09/23 05:58 PM
–	Women are becoming accepting of their own averageness yet desire above average in men more than ever before Men are indiscriminate with who they’re taking out for a date but are strict with who they want to stay steady with. Basically a man can look at a girl who doesn’t fit every physical preference, but will take her out and give it a shot. Only PUAs and redpillers play they numbers game, most guys don’t have the emotional capacity to ask out and get rejected by dozens of women just for one to say yes. Very rarely will you meet a man in real life who asked out double digit amount of women, especiall…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/09/23 05:46 PM
–	Women are becoming accepting of their own averageness yet desire above average in men more than ever before There’s a difference, men are more willing to compromise or tweak their standards and preference for women than women. Women tend to be inflexible with their preferences which explains why some women have a string of terrible exes and aren’t attracted to men who outside that box.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/09/23 05:32 PM
–	Women are becoming accepting of their own averageness yet desire above average in men more than ever before I think one of the problems is that a lot women who came to the conclusion staying single and refusing to “settle down” do so to compensate for getting heartbroken, abused, and mindfucked. To be fair everyone wants to date the perfect person who checks every box, but we cannot have it all. I think women especially the average ones, have a harder time accepting that than most men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/09/23 05:24 PM
3	Only men can solve the male loneliness epidemic (and most so called male issues) There's a huge difference between making friends in your late teens - 20s and making friends after 30.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/09/23 07:10 AM
3	Only men can solve the male loneliness epidemic (and most so called male issues) I was responding to this: But men don't need safe spaces in the same way that women and LGBTQIA+ people do. I would argue there is a level of oppression men face related to gender norms and expectations (even the patriarchy negatively affects men). For example, I know this subreddit mostly focuses on dating/sex but the fact that we're seeing a growing number of men realizing that we're holding up archaic gender dynamics that we know isn't working, trickling down into other aspects of our lives s…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/09/23 03:17 AM
6	Only men can solve the male loneliness epidemic (and most so called male issues) But communities, hobbies, interests, and social clubs that are dominated by a particular group of people implement elements of a safe space for those groups of people. Regardless how we feel about incel forums and the manosphere, they are examples of safe spaces. They are a place where men are able to freely express and validate themselves without the fear of facing discrimination, criticism, and emotional harm.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/09/23 02:48 AM
7	Only men can solve the male loneliness epidemic (and most so called male issues) Totally dude, men having fun with card games is truly an example of how much men hate each other. But we should ignore the beauty industry that’s mostly made up of women has a history of creating toxic and self-hating culture in so many women, to the point teenage girls go on dangerous diets and surgeries to appease it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/09/23 12:31 AM
15	Only men can solve the male loneliness epidemic (and most so called male issues) The MRA was probably the closest movement to hit the mainstream before it imploded for various of reasons. That being said, if we look at any group that ever struggled POC, women, and LGBT you’ll see that it wasn’t JUST those members of those groups that supported their causes. For example, those 3 groups civil rights movements and activists had prior connections to either class, leftist, and/or religious groups. Men’s groups never had those connections, they got tossed into the looney far-right…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/09/23 12:21 AM
11	Only men can solve the male loneliness epidemic (and most so called male issues) This I agree with.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/09/23 10:30 PM
9	Only men can solve the male loneliness epidemic (and most so called male issues) At a certain age, you begin to see a slow drift. At first, your friends found steady girlfriends and are locking down their career paths. Then they start becoming spotty and busy, and the suddenly you’re seeing a lot of engagement announcements. Couple months to a year, you start attending a bunch of weddings. Then finally, children starts cropping out of nowhere. One day you ask Joseph to come out to hang out just like the old days, and he says he can’t cause he has a hectic schedule with work …	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/09/23 10:25 PM
11	Women are happier "single" because they're aren't really single at all I’ve never heard a man in real life who unironically said or believe this other than the small corner of weirdo Redpill addicts online.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/09/23 08:30 PM
1	Maybe our view of marriage is outdated. It shouldn't be seen as a "forever" thing Women break their bodies with pregnancy, childbirth, and childreading for 18+ years, and also work overtime around the holidays to pay for presents. I agree, so both men and women break their bodies for their children, we call that a compromise. You know, where two people decide to make a fair and selfless sacrifice for a good outcome. Nah, they weren't "blindsided", they knew how overtaxed and disgusted their wives were. They just ignored her discomfort because their needs were being met by the…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/09/23 03:30 PM
1	Most men think they are more physically attractive than they are Yes, to an extent. People are generally drawn to those with ambition and drive because they're the ones who get shit done regardless of gender. Not to mention that I don't think men would want to be with a woman with crazy debt, terrible spending habits, and completely lethargic in multiple aspect in her life in the long term. There's a reason rich and wealthy men never marries a poor or working class woman, it's because they're looking for someone with experience and competence to support and m…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/09/23 03:00 PM
1	Most men think they are more physically attractive than they are LA must be a the Twilight Zone compared to NYC	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/09/23 01:20 AM
1	Maybe our view of marriage is outdated. It shouldn't be seen as a "forever" thing That’s interesting, I used to work with middle age men too in my late-teens and what I’ve observed were men breaking their bodies and taking multiple overtimes for their families especially around holiday seasons. I knew men who got blindsided because their partners after a couple of decades of marriage and raising their children into adulthood, decided in their 40s that never wanted that life and moonwalks into the divorce. I’m convinced that has been a deliberate narrative-shift about the aver…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/09/23 05:14 PM
3	Most men think they are more physically attractive than they are No shot. I have female friends, sisters, and coworkers who lets me look at their dating app messages, and what you’re describing almost never happens. The worst initial messages they received are dry ones like “hey” or “how are you?” I see dudes who writes a paragraph, throw out pickup lines, and asking questions related to their bio. Not to mention that most of those men were average looking at best. Maybe it’s your area or something, because I’m not seeing what you’re seeing.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/09/23 03:21 PM
8	Most men think they are more physically attractive than they are I would grant the pickiness if you’re extremely attractive and lives an extravagant lifestyle that you want to upkeep. There’s a reason men should be advised to know and stay in their lane. But if you’re average/mediocre to below not just in terms of looks but lifestyle, career, and finance. Basically, you have not to much going on in your life. You’re asking for way too much with very little to offer. No disrespect to the majority of women I see on the apps they aren’t terrible people, but they…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/09/23 01:09 PM
11	Most men think they are more physically attractive than they are I figured that was the case. I keep hearing this notion that men be walking outside looking like crackheads, and I’m sitting here like there’s like “barbershops are booming, there are lines in front of Foot Locker for midnight sneaker launches, and we used the word drip all the time.” Hell, I remember wanting waves (hairstyle) so bad as a little kid lol.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/09/23 12:56 PM
1	Most men think they are more physically attractive than they are They do. It’s the reason barbershops, sneaker culture, watch culture, designers, and gyms are so popular with men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/09/23 12:37 PM
2	Most men think they are more physically attractive than they are The majority of law enforcers and defense/military are made up of men. The majority of manual laborers who we depend on for our day to day basis are made up of men. The majority company/corporate owners and CEOs are made up of men. The majority of the technology that you’re currently using were built and created by men. If men were to collectively throw their hands and walk away we’ll have to embark a multi-generational effort to fundamentally restructure our society to make up for it. The same …	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/09/23 12:34 PM
27	Most men think they are more physically attractive than they are Never met a guy in my life who thinks their appearance doesn’t matter, but maybe it’s due to the culture and environment I came from. I grew up in a black and Hispanic inner city, where we had dudes roasting each other for poor fashion choices, we had dudes who’ll never dare to step outside if they didn’t have a haircut in over two weeks, and don’t get me started with sneaker and watch culture. Even with those things combined, those men never viewed themselves as “very attractive.” I’m going to …	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/09/23 12:25 PM
1	If dating is so broken, why don't women seemingly complain about it? I mean that’s like asking if traditional dating broken, why don’t men back then seemingly complain about it? It’s because of leverage and dynamics. The reason women don’t have a large voice in todays dating culture is because they all the leverage in both romantic and casual relationships. Compare the biggest issues between men and women in dating, for a lot women all their options are inadequate/undesirable while for a lot of men it’s a matter of getting your foot in the door. A	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/09/23 04:56 PM
1	What's the reason for why people need a 'hoe phase'? For men, there's a unique social pressure for them to have asexual experience by a certain age because a lot of women don't have patience for inexperienced men. After 25, if you're a man with no sexual or romantic experiences... you're going to have a rough time. So what happens is that men internalize it into "I need to start sleeping around, so I can be good enough to be considered." Also despite contrary belief, men who are known to sleep around have better sexual and romantic success than th…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/09/23 07:47 PM
1	If some young men are genuinely struggling with dating compared to women like them and compared to more attractive men, is that a matter of inequity or inequality? Attraction goes beyond the physical and initial meeting, like how many times have we heard from older generations about how they met their partners: "When I first met my husband I thought he was repulsive and obnoxious, but after awhile I started finding him attractive." Our brains are very plastic and are molded by various of environmental conditioning.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/09/23 07:17 PM
3	Why dont young men just adapt and evolve ? Whether into asexual, gay or AI girlfriends.. its all viable options when it is too difficult to get a quality partner. Do you really believe what you've just wrote? It's wild that the west went through hundreds of years of social and humanitarian progress, in an attempt to create a society to give the average person regardless of identity and creed the opportunity to pursue and choose to be whoever you want to be and live whatever lifestyle you want. But when it comes to plight of young men, we just throw our hands and shrug our shoulders saying: "Sorry Jimmy but you missed the boat, and there isn't enough space…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/09/23 12:39 AM
–	Personality does not matter to women as much as everyone tells you Don’t worry, you’re awesome in my book😌	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/09/23 09:14 PM
6	How hard do you think it actually is to date as a heterosexual man. It depends on your age, location, culture and where you’re currently standing in life in terms of career, social life, and ambition. Speaking for myself, I’m someone who has their together. I have a good family, great friends/social life, decent paying career, and fulfilling hobbies. It’s a struggle to form a relationship. To put it into an analogy, I’m currently stranded in an extremely wide spread desert where the nearest oasis is about 4-6 months away but here’s the catch some of those oasis’…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/09/23 08:50 PM
10	Why dont young men just adapt and evolve ? Whether into asexual, gay or AI girlfriends.. its all viable options when it is too difficult to get a quality partner. Most of those people don’t “adapt” they just “survive.” Most people don’t want to survive they want to live, know what I mean? Don’t you think it’s bit unfair to turn to a bunch of young men who’s lives barely even started and tell them “oh, women don’t desire you? Oh, you’re facing a growing trend of misandry for issues that wasn’t cause by you? You can’t find a stable career despite doing all of the right things? Shut the fuck up, stop bitching, and learn how to adapt… whatever that means, oka…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/09/23 08:12 PM
4	Why dont young men just adapt and evolve ? Whether into asexual, gay or AI girlfriends.. its all viable options when it is too difficult to get a quality partner. Good to hear that you found your stride by adopting MGTOW, but I don’t most men including myself would be okay with it. To me there’s something empty and unsatisfying about having to hire an escort as the only means of intimacy and sex.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/09/23 07:39 PM
–	Personality does not matter to women as much as everyone tells you Men usually fuckzone women, the only men who friendzone women are the ones with the abundance of choices.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/09/23 07:03 PM
–	Personality does not matter to women as much as everyone tells you Of course women take it a lot better on dating apps because you’re one of the many options they have. “Oh you just want to be friends? Okay, next guy.” Lol	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/09/23 07:01 PM
–	Personality does not matter to women as much as everyone tells you Of course women take it a lot better on dating apps because you’re one of the many options they have. “Oh you just want to be friends? Okay, next guy.” Lol	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/09/23 07:01 PM
1	Men would probably simp less and be desperate for female company if they just got more positive reinforcement/affirmation in their everyday life, I will explain in better detail what I mean It’s so unfortunate and absurd that we continue to play with these outdated roles and dynamics, we’re in a day and age where women are earning more degrees than men and are balancing out gender earnings in high end careers. How can I provide for someone who more than capable and okay with provide for themselves?	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/09/23 05:22 PM
–	Men would probably simp less and be desperate for female company if they just got more positive reinforcement/affirmation in their everyday life, I will explain in better detail what I mean As for my ex, she has a few more unmarried friends (living with one) but the biggest difference is she has men at work and around her eager to, well ‘simp’ as well as going on frequent vacations where local men are more than eager to show her a fun weekend This is one of the reasons women are a lot more comfortable being single it's because they're "simp", desired and sought out for regardless if they're looking or not. It's rough out here.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/09/23 02:11 PM
9	Men would probably simp less and be desperate for female company if they just got more positive reinforcement/affirmation in their everyday life, I will explain in better detail what I mean Society does not even ask what men really want out of their lives, we're just constantly bombarding the average man with success & hustle propaganda, but we barely ask if said men feel fulfilled and deeply-appreciative of their shortcomings in life, we barely even ask men ''are you ok?'', ''everything alright?'' Holy shit you nailed this! For some odd unexplainable reason, we've come to the census that the average man are these temporarily embarrassed millionaires hypersexual creatures who longs…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/09/23 02:01 PM
6	Men would probably simp less and be desperate for female company if they just got more positive reinforcement/affirmation in their everyday life, I will explain in better detail what I mean Men Everyone created a society where being considered “feminine” was problematic. FTFY. It's a all encompassing problem. I've been called gay and effeminate by plenty of women especially if they ask why I don't have a girlfriend.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/09/23 01:35 PM
–	Men would probably simp less and be desperate for female company if they just got more positive reinforcement/affirmation in their everyday life, I will explain in better detail what I mean As someone with a supportive family and a healthy outgoing social circle, those things don't last forever. Sooner or later, people move on. Parents pass away, siblings and friends start raising families and buckling down on stable careers. And if you don't find a partner by then, you might have to prepare for a life of loneliness.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/09/23 01:29 PM
8	Do women resent men who are late bloomers? Involuntary celibate was coined by a Canadian women in the 90s, now whether or not she really was one is up for speculation.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/09/23 02:06 PM
1	CMV: men resent women for having standards? There's no better definition of an inflated ego than someone feeling like they're the shit due to receiving artificial attention from an app. I agree that women have every right to go after the best possible man, but they can't turn around and complain about man ain't being shit when they made that decision. Also I'm good, I'm a decent and swell guy. I have a healthy social life with loving family and friends who I treat right. I finished school and have a comfy job. I take care of my health and…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/08/23 02:33 AM
2	CMV: men resent women for having standards? With the exception of the social pressure to raise children, our society has been on the right track rectifying the former things women are put through. We had a giant international movement dedicated to unveiling the nature sexual assault that women go through. Resulting in powerful men getting arrested, shamed, and documented. It has dramatically changed the workforce dynamics. It has an effect on young men behaviors. As for discrimination, there are a myriad of educational, social, and govern…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/08/23 02:03 AM
3	CMV: men resent women for having standards? Really tho…which one of us gets to grow up being told we’re entitled to things because of what gender we are & nothing else & which one of us grows up being told we need to “marry & have kids” STILL? Both genders for both of those questions, but for different reasons and social pressures. I know both men and women who feels like they're entitled to things because of their gender, for men their entitlement comes from "I am man, I am strong, I am rational, so give me sex" and for women it's "I am …	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/08/23 01:40 AM
2	CMV: men resent women for having standards? Men don't resent women that has standards, they resent arrogance and haughtiness especially when it's unearned. Sort of like the men who consumes a bunch of redpill contents but still lives with their parents, working shit jobs, overweight and yet claims to be "High Value." The problem men are facing isn't that they don't respect what women want, but that they're being told that they're not needed, wanted, and are basically useless due to women being able to provide for themselves. Not only that…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/08/23 01:28 AM
7	Men‼️it's not your fault ‼️ Men who’re looking for long-term relationships tend to afford women with sexual hang ups grace, as long as the relationship is fulfilling and intimate. Also isn’t one of the ways women vet out for committed men, is by holding out sex? Not to mention it’s not very one-sided, there are women who also lose interest and disappear on men who hold out on sex.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/08/23 07:37 PM
15	Men‼️it's not your fault ‼️ Manhood starts as soon as we don’t look like cute kids anymore. Until people understand to what it’s like to be perceived as a danger and a threat when you are a child, then you won’t understand why manhood is the way it is This hit me hard, especially with the fact that I started physically developing way earlier than most boys (even my own father when he was a kid.) By the time I was 13, I had a mustache and a full beard. People started treating me like a grown adult and a danger despite me ba…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/08/23 07:28 PM
1	Q4M: what steps do you take to make women less afraid of you? Huh? No one exposed anything.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/08/23 02:47 PM
1	Do you think men's fashion really matters in attraction? Yes, because the way how you dress represents who you are. From aesthetics, culture, class, and even complimenting body types. This is not to say that you should drop 1k on a bunch of high fashion expensive designers, but you should at least know what looks good on you and what you want other people to notice about you.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/08/23 04:40 PM
6	Why don’t men just do what women do? Most men are already doing those things, they're not sitting at home 24/7 rotting behind a screen lol. As someone who touches grass and has real hobbies, if you don't live in a lively metro area and not willing to drop about $40 - 50 for a day of hanging out I can't blame them for feeling lonely and bored. I would love to have a reliable Third Place™ that me and my friends can consistently attend that doesn't run my pockets. Friends and romantic relationships fill unique roles. Most men love the…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/08/23 03:46 PM
2	Hey, men: You should stop expressing how hard it's to be single. Lying only works in plain conversations but not in practice, people (especially women) can smell out inexperience.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/08/23 01:39 AM
3	Q4Men: For Men Who Think Most Dating Advice is "Unhelpful", What Would You Prefer? Well my mom worked many years in healthcare My mom used to work in healthcare too, she used to help bath and wipe women or various age's asses. My sister used to work in genecology at a hospital where a lot of the patients she had HIV and other STIs. Does that mean that most women have HIV or STI and cannot wipe their ass? No, because those are the worse places gather data of the average person. manufacturing plant How can I forget that manufacturing plants are the quintessential environment to …	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/08/23 11:03 PM
5	What do you make of a woman who regularly dates older men? If the woman is over 25, then who cares. But if you're still in college or god forbid high school, it comes off opportunistic and desperate to look mature.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/08/23 10:24 PM
7	Q4Men: For Men Who Think Most Dating Advice is "Unhelpful", What Would You Prefer? Is this a gaslight? Like, where are you meeting these men? Do you hangout at crackhouses? I need to know because most dudes are doing all of those things you mentioned without being told. You're acting like we're currently experiencing a nation-wide barbershop closings due a lack of clients. Fucking Gillette is about go out of business because men don't want to shave anymore lol. Give me a break.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/08/23 09:56 PM
3	Q4Men: For Men Who Think Most Dating Advice is "Unhelpful", What Would You Prefer? Human's aren't wired to be logical, rational, problem solving machines. For most people, all it takes is empathy and someone giving a shit to change themselves. The reason I have still a healthy set of friends is because I realized that most people when they're venting aren't looking for solutions or advice, they just want someone to listen to them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/08/23 09:41 PM
1	Q4Men: For Men Who Think Most Dating Advice is "Unhelpful", What Would You Prefer? I prefer people to at the very least recognize and understand that it's not completely men's fault for struggling. And to recognize that most men just want a regular life and to be with a regular woman, but they're struggling due to forces outside of their own and even women's control. It has very little to do with personality, social aptitude, hygiene, or even genetics. I would just prefer "We're currently experiencing a huge cultural and psychological shift where some men will fall off despite…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/08/23 09:34 PM
1	Hey, men: You should stop expressing how hard it's to be single. My thoughts exactly. I mostly hangout with nerds and dorks, very rarely have I ran into a unhygienic neckbeard. Where is she meeting such man-children?	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/08/23 08:46 PM
3	Hey, men: You should stop expressing how hard it's to be single. It just so happens that if you missed certain romantic and sexual experiences at a younger age, things will get a bit rough when you get older. A lot of women at my age don't have the patience to deal with someone inexperienced. This is why so many men are desperate, because they NEED some type of experience to get into a relationship after an certain age. Most dudes who are struggling aren't socially inept video game addicts. Also, this is coming from someone who has friends, hobbies, a college…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/08/23 08:38 PM
3	Q4M: what steps do you take to make women less afraid of you? This is the best comment I've seen here. There's not a thing men can do, it's all up to the woman. If you're afraid of all men like the woman in that video, well shit... you going to figure that out in therapy. There's so much a man can do to not make himself into not look like a psychopath. I also think that the consumption of serial killer or criminal documentaries play some role. My sister and my female coworkers are OBESSED with serial killer documentaries, especially the most recent Jeffrey…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/08/23 03:33 PM
1	Q4M: what steps do you take to make women less afraid of you? In a non-dating context it's easy. Read social cues/vibes, smile more, be more gentle, avoid yelling, and don't be pushy. In a dating context it's all up to how the woman interprets and feels about you. You can do everything I mentioned above, but then you would run into the problem of being too platonic and friendly. At the end of the day I cannot make a woman to become less afraid of me, if she were to be. If you're anything like that woman on that TikTok, I can't help you, men can't help you,…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/08/23 03:14 PM
1	Earning more and getting fit isn't always the solution for romantic relationships.. understanding a woman's emotional needs is." Emotional intelligence isn't just understanding a woman's emotional needs, it's the ability to understand your and other people's emotions. Men who are attuned to their emotions are usually viewed as effeminate, weak, and unconfident due to being careful and tactful with how their actions affect other people. Men are generally socialized into bravado and machismo because most women desire men who can brush past emotional affairs and solve problems. From my teenage years to early-20s I used to be…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/08/23 02:49 PM
1	Is Social Media Culture Destroying Realistic Expectations? Yes, because the current state of social media is about grabbing and keeping people's attention which is fed into an algorithm that'll give you more. If you read or watch 3 ragebait videos or tweets about dating, you have manipulated your algorithm into giving you more content that'll piss you off. Not to mention that people airing out shit, that doesn't need to be told. We have men reading random women's group chat on social media, feeling like shit. We have women looking at manosphere content …	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/08/23 02:06 PM
8	Women would be straight up miserable if their partner refused to have sex with them, yet because it usually happens the other way around they find excuses that sex is not important It's because of sunk cost fallacy, it's hard to leave something that you invested so much money, time, and effort into.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/08/23 01:45 PM
1	We need a modern mythos of "the Average Man" Wow… I’ve completely forgot about Bob’s Burgers and how the humor and writing is almost similar to KotH.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/08/23 09:49 PM
7	We need a modern mythos of "the Average Man" Speaking anecdotally, I went to college for a computer sci/tech degree and the majority of the people I went to school with afaik aren’t making over 100k. They’re living good and comfortable lives but they’re not THAT wealthy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/08/23 06:44 PM
7	We need a modern mythos of "the Average Man" As long as you found your inner peace and content you're solid. Best of luck to your journey!	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/08/23 06:25 PM
1	We need a modern mythos of "the Average Man" I also forgot drop-shipping lol No. It is not ok to live a life of mediocrity. You have such a short glimpse on being in this blue pearl, in an ocean of nothingness in the universe. Being so subpar should be admonished by all, every single day, hour after hour of you being a fucking pussy to try and stretch and live life just a bit better than stagnant water. That's a interesting thought, what if I told you that there are people in world who has never left their country, city, or even their town…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/08/23 06:20 PM
8	We need a modern mythos of "the Average Man" This is best take I've seen here. Although, everything is becoming a lot more expensive and most people are in a very tight budget. I don't think we've reached a point where mediocrity isn't okay in material terms, if that were the case the fabric of our institutions would be in the brink of chaos. I think what's really happening is that we're currently living through one of the most crucial and unique era in human history. We're facing a number of existential decisions that will spell out the f…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/08/23 06:00 PM
4	We need a modern mythos of "the Average Man" I despise the hustle/grind/self-improvement culture due to how they hijacked the definition of hardworking and ambition. I absolutely loathe the down talk of working a regular 9 -5.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/08/23 05:36 PM
1	We need a modern mythos of "the Average Man" I read bits of Beyond Good and Evil when I was in college.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/08/23 05:26 PM
6	We need a modern mythos of "the Average Man" I'm calling his way of life mediocre in terms of most people today would view it, me personally I think his life is something to respect and view as "winning." I didn't claim Hank Hill's life as something to be improved, but something respectable for young men to aspire to be. Ofc those internet guru would kill to have what Hank has because he was capable of finding inner peace and content with the little he has.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/08/23 05:24 PM
2	We need a modern mythos of "the Average Man" Effort is relative, in order to not be mediocre and reach the top you need an abundance. And to have an abundance we need have-nots, without them what makes a person not mediocre if everyone can or will reach it? But I'm going off tangent.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/08/23 04:55 PM
1	We need a modern mythos of "the Average Man" This is very true.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/08/23 04:43 PM
3	We need a modern mythos of "the Average Man" I think there is such a thing as "done enough" in terms of meeting basic necessities and standards of independent adult. But I don't think there's a "done enough" when it comes to refining yourself and having personal goals.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/08/23 04:42 PM
3	We need a modern mythos of "the Average Man" But how do know if you're either not trying hard enough or you're participating in almost impossible to win rat race? Most people aren't that special.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/08/23 04:37 PM
8	We need a modern mythos of "the Average Man" I choose Hank Hill in particular because KotH is still fresh in my mind lol. There's a lot of happiness to be had and found in being average, I just wish we didn't look down upon it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/08/23 04:32 PM
5	We need a modern mythos of "the Average Man" Yeah, but the problem is that those who are openly not determined to become something beyond average are viewed as unambitious, stagnant, and boring. Despite, having goals more intuitive and personal.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/08/23 04:30 PM
6	We need a modern mythos of "the Average Man" Most men are average by default, but they don't view themselves that way because they see that as losing.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/08/23 04:22 PM
2	We need a modern mythos of "the Average Man" Same here, my father was working class immigrant who gave a shit about his job and his purpose within it despite it not being the most extravagant career in the world, but he was satisfied. I always respected those who has the kind of honor you're describing.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/08/23 04:20 PM
4	We need a modern mythos of "the Average Man" I totally agree, that you should always strive to be a better person and have personal goals. But for most people their best is mediocre in the grander scheme of things. Which I have no problems with.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/08/23 04:17 PM
4	At what point is 'improve yourself' no longer good advice? When you meet the basic standards of an well-adjusted adult and capable of taking care of yourself, but nothing works. Self-improvement in that context, is basically telling an individual to push up Sisyphus rock to distract ourselves from examining broad issue concerning our socialization and community building.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/08/23 02:14 PM
1	It's not fair that a small percentage of men get to affect women's views on all men I agree that we should hold sexists and rapists accountable. I’m not asking for women to drop their precautions or guard around men, but we shouldn’t also demand decent regular men to pick up the pieces from an terrible person. If I find out someone I know is a rapist or has raped someone in the past, I’ll demand him to to turn himself in or I’m reporting him, either way I’m cutting that person out my life.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/08/23 06:24 PM
1	It's not fair that a small percentage of men get to affect women's views on all men I agree that our society doesn’t have a good modern hardline legal definition of rape, if anything our current laws are still archaic. Without going much into the weeds of how morals vs law, rape cases are incredibly difficult and delicate to solve.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/08/23 05:46 PM
2	It's not fair that a small percentage of men get to affect women's views on all men How so? The point is that a minority of the population make up majority of a crime.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/08/23 05:24 PM
0	It's not fair that a small percentage of men get to affect women's views on all men Nope, in the study 6.5% are self-identified rapists not just convicted. In that same study in a room of 100 men there were more men who’re victims of rape than perpetrators.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/08/23 05:13 PM
3	It's not fair that a small percentage of men get to affect women's views on all men Yeah… we been through this yesterday, not really feeling like engaging with a disingenuous actor today. So I’ll just put you on the bench, have a good rest of your day.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/08/23 04:59 PM
2	It's not fair that a small percentage of men get to affect women's views on all men Gotcha.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/08/23 04:52 PM
3	It's not fair that a small percentage of men get to affect women's views on all men The part where you’re a dishonest troll, have a good one buddy	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/08/23 04:47 PM
2	It's not fair that a small percentage of men get to affect women's views on all men Bro what?	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/08/23 04:26 PM
-1	It's not fair that a small percentage of men get to affect women's views on all men I'm confident that it's not a larger pool of men, one because our entire civilization literally cannot properly function if almost half the population of men are rapists or SA'ers. Two, most rapists and sexual assaulters are repeated offenders. Those who commit those crimes as adults has definitely done it before in the past. Let's put 100 rapists in a room, I'm willing to bet that those 100 rapists collectively make up at least 1-2k of rapes. Same goes with sexual assault.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/08/23 04:25 PM
2	It's not fair that a small percentage of men get to affect women's views on all men Anyone who dismisses this issue to just "Yeah, life isn't fair" or "why should be fair" are apart of the problem. We will campaign and cause uproar for the injustices and unfair treatment for many groups, but when it comes to straight men... it's always be better or stop complaining and figure it out on your own. I think it's complete bullshit for ANYONE regardless of gender, to be held responsible for the crimes and sins of a POS who happens to be in the same gender. It's one thing to be empath…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/08/23 04:10 PM
0	It's not fair that a small percentage of men get to affect women's views on all men Only 40% of rapes are reported to the police.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/08/23 04:02 PM
1	It's not fair that a small percentage of men get to affect women's views on all men But why should the majority of decent normal men be burdened with dealing with the minority scums of our society? Why should I go out of my way and deal with those scum's sins, when I'm already through the hardships of life as an responsible individual. Most rapists and sexual assaulters don't give a fuck. They're moving through life without a CARE or REMORSE about how they're effecting their victims and others, while innocent men are expected to pick up the pieces. Isn't that some bullshit? Sex…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/08/23 03:49 PM
0	It's not fair that a small percentage of men get to affect women's views on all men There's a study "2002 Lisak study" that claims that only 6.5% of men are rapists. Which makes sense since those who commit those crimes tend to be repeated offenders, they make up a larger proportion than one-time offenders. Our civilization cannot function if almost half the male population are rapists.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/08/23 03:30 PM
5	If you don't find a partner, are you ready to live alone for the rest of your life? Exactly. I don't have the emotional and mentally tenacity to be a 60 - 70 year old without an family, children, or a real relationship experience. Like what else am I here for? Might as well not delay the inevitable.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/08/23 04:02 AM
3	If you don't find a partner, are you ready to live alone for the rest of your life? I mean I'm already living alone, but I don't how long I keep it up. I'm at the age where most of my peers and friends are either getting married, raising a family, or moving up the career ladder. They have so little time to hang out with me, which isn't their fault. Most social events that cater to my age group are usually occupied by people with their families and kids. My parents aren't getting any younger, so they're going to be gone soon. My siblings have since moved on with their lives and …	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/08/23 11:27 PM
–	Women are far worse at articulating what they find attractive than men Well it sounds like girls who don't know what they want aren't your type then? So move on when you encounter them. Easier said than done, due to the problem clearly not being in the individual level. Most women just cannot articulate their "spark" nor "connection" compared to men. I would love to be with a woman who not only knows what she wants but is able to stay consistent to it. Um... a relationship and marriage is a team. If I want to share my life with someone for the rest of my life, I wo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/08/23 08:19 PM
–	Women are far worse at articulating what they find attractive than men I agree with this post for the most part, but it's takes two to tango. The butterfly in your stomach-like romantic and sexual tension can only be built mutually. The reason so many younger men out here are extremely stiff, boring, and playing it safe because there are so much going against us. We've built a culture around how most men are horny predatory creeps who would SA women if there weren't any legal repercussions. We've told young men and boys to treat women similar to their friends, beca…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/08/23 08:05 PM
1	Women are far worse at articulating what they find attractive than men I do know what I want, but it wouldn't matter if I'm dealing with someone who doesn't know what they want. A team cannot work together with an individual with shaky foundation and bails out during downtime. Without getting to personal, let's just say that I'm not struggling to take care of myself and doing pretty well. I'm in a situation where "dates" don't very easy for me and that I don't have a lot options in line.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/08/23 07:21 PM
2	Women are far worse at articulating what they find attractive than men Sure it’s not a video game, but how can you develop a spark or connection with someone who doesn’t know what they want? This is literally my struggle. I have my life together, I have aspirations related to my interests, I have a decent social life but for some lovecraftian reason it’s not enough. What else am I supposed to do? Continue to waste money, time and emotional energy in hopes that “spark” comes around?	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/08/23 06:20 PM
1	Women base their entire dating lives on a dodgy initial sales pitch, while dismissing men who would make better long term partners because they are no good at that You don't have to advise me, I've seen it all lol	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/08/23 06:55 PM
1	Is it harder for a man or a woman to be considered attractive? Of course it's absurdly harder to be considered physically attractive as a man, never before in human history men were strictly judged by looks than today. Talk to your fathers/grandfathers about their youth, most of them just applied the most rudimentary hygienic and grooming standards. Meanwhile today we're hearing about young men mewing and getting jawline surgeries, ffs height lengthening surgery is like the BBL for men in terms of risk and deadliness. Now that being said, I think there need…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/08/23 06:47 PM
1	Women base their entire dating lives on a dodgy initial sales pitch, while dismissing men who would make better long term partners because they are no good at that Shy bookish girls want nerdy Chad ime. They don't like the captain of the football team. THIS! They don't like Michael Jordan, they like Michael B Jordan.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/08/23 02:56 PM
16	Women base their entire dating lives on a dodgy initial sales pitch, while dismissing men who would make better long term partners because they are no good at that As someone who attended metalcore/hardcore/punk shows, nerdy conventions, gaming events, and used to be a huge weeb. It's depends on personal temperament. The sex craze emo/nerdy nymphomaniacs girls, tend to be Cluster B and it's easy to tell. They tend to amp up the hyper "uwu" energy around the boys/men they hang out with. They have severe manic episodes of super hype rawr random :3 or quiet as a mouse depression. Not to mention that those type of subcultures tend to attract women who experien…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/08/23 02:50 PM
1	Men who have sex with a lot of women are usually even more misogynistic than 'nice guys' They both want to do the same things, do they not? Beyond wanting sex they don't, the men in those forums want validation from women by obsessing over looks/genes and while the football players who runs trains wants to get their nut out even if it means physically intimidating and taking advantage of women. Two completely different goals. Not to mention the only evidence given for either is talk. I'd imagine some of both actually do things but that's hard to catch. I disagree, the men in those f…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/08/23 06:29 PM
8	Men who have sex with a lot of women are usually even more misogynistic than 'nice guys' I disagree with the framing, it is not the same. One of group of dudes are in a forum complaining and pontificating about women and another are physically harming women. The most dangerous guy isn't the guy on a small forum talking about what they'll "hypothetically" do to women and girls. It's the guys who spikes women/girls drinks, the guys who constantly pressures/pushes women/girls when they're drunk, the boy who invite a girl to his place thinking it'll just be them but his friends pops up …	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/08/23 03:20 PM
1	Q4M - an average looking girl is DESPERATE to date you. How do you feel about it? At first glance, I would probably feel a bit wary as if I'm getting setup, pranked, or she has Borderline Personality Disorder because I never got that type of attention or attraction. But after a while I'll figure out that it's genuine. No it would not reduce her attractiveness, if anything it would motivate me further to work hard and go the extra mile for her because she sees something in me lol. But I would feel weird if she constantly cancels plans with friends, spends money on me, and laug…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/08/23 02:40 PM
–	I often hear women say "I have attractive male friends with awesome personalities, but I don't like them that way." If they're attractive, why aren't they attracted to them? Unfortunately most people don’t operate like that, especially these days. If you’re attractive people tend to be a lot patient and tolerant of your character and flaws, it’s not just about being able to sleep with someone. There plenty of attractive men who are a complete mess but manages to attract women under the excuse of “he’ll eventually climb out of this rut.” Not to sound hyperbolic, but in the abstract level the genetic lottery is important because right now, men who have multiple childr…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/08/23 06:45 PM
–	Men don't care as much about women intelligence in dating, but they do apprecitate it Well, some women choose to be prize wives or depend on a man, being them dumb, and that is OK too. Sure, if they want face getting pumped and dumped by men who will never see any value in them or be completely financially reliant on a man who can replace them with a younger woman when she gets older. Prize and trophy wives are products of the past.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/08/23 02:58 PM
–	Men don't care as much about women intelligence in dating, but they do apprecitate it I'll keep it a stack with you, we're currently in a culture where education and intelligence are needed to live a comfortable life. Regardless of gender, if you don't have a college degree nor certifications, and you're working as an cashier, waitress, barista with little to no goals or aspirations that's a liability.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/08/23 02:39 PM
2	Q4A: Suppose an average guy changes bodies with a top tier guy. How would their lives differ, and how do you think would they react to their new lifestyles? Paul would be surprised of the boost of positive reinforcement and affirmation, he’ll become a lot more confident in himself and become bolder. His attitude would change drastically and will be on Cloud 9. He’s either going to sleep around or lock down a relationship as soon as possible. Chad on the other hand depends, if he was always viewed as a top tier guy since childhood he’ll be confused and shocked of the sudden switch up, little tolerance, and patience people have for him. If Chad became…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/08/23 01:42 PM
1	Dude ghosts girl after first date what can we learn from this? Sounds like the problem is that men are noticing that a lot of women defends, lust, and desire men who exhibits sociopathic and fuckboy-like behaviors. Which results with them adapting/copying those behaviors to attract women, I can't really blame them when reddit stories like what OP is showing them that reality. Me personally, I can't pull off the sociopathic/fuckboy façade but it seems like a strategy that works compared to honesty.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/08/23 01:50 AM
–	Autistic men struggle to hide their keenness/attraction and this puts people off. That’s not an apt analogy since men aren’t resources But in your previous comment, you compared them to literal garbage because you believe they're not useful enough lol. You're intentionally misreading the context of the analogy to avoid answering the question, because you rather be in food desert than to be thrown in the middle of a desert with nothing.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/08/23 03:36 PM
–	Autistic men struggle to hide their keenness/attraction and this puts people off. If you were forced to choose between: being stranded in a desert with no resources or stuck in food desert where the best you can get is mediocrity, which one would you choose?	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/08/23 03:15 PM
6	Q4ALL: How would you react if you found out your son was... This 100%. Having a decent and healthy social life helps negate the effects of those ideologies.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/08/23 07:38 PM
1	Q4ALL: How would you react if you found out your son was... If he’s a teenager 16 - 18 I would give him advice and demand him to leave these spaces ASAP. He’s literally a baby who’s too young and inexperienced too fully understand those groups and topics, and by staying/lurking he’s at risk of self-sabotaging especially if he identifies as an incel or MGTOW. 19 - 20 I would recommend therapy and force him to participate in student groups and events at college, stating the same thing as above. 21+ he’s approaching the danger “no turning back” zone. I woul…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/08/23 07:34 PM
1	I often hear women say "I have attractive male friends with awesome personalities, but I don't like them that way." If they're attractive, why aren't they attracted to them? Not to sound bitter or jaded, but you're basically saying "it is what it is." I'm not autistic or socially inept but the level of social ingenuity and finesse that are solely expected of me is one of a telepath. Not to mention that I'm being up against the Resident Evil 4 Hard Mode No Continues quick time events, as a demonstration of my social skills regardless of how good the date is going for both parties. At this point, are we even talking about dating? Here I thought that dating was about g…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/08/23 06:36 PM
2	I often hear women say "I have attractive male friends with awesome personalities, but I don't like them that way." If they're attractive, why aren't they attracted to them? Okay, don't you think that's a bit unfair and unreasonable to have that onus thrown onto you? We cannot ignore that one of the things women do to vet out men is to withhold sex to see he can stay committed and offer more, men are also told to avoid sexual topics because being explicit is a turn off. There are so much going against you if you bring up sexual stuff UNLESS she nudges at it first. Imagine going on a fun and exciting first date where you talk for hours about shared interests, persona…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/08/23 05:51 PM
8	I often hear women say "I have attractive male friends with awesome personalities, but I don't like them that way." If they're attractive, why aren't they attracted to them? Attractiveness is a bit more objective than that but not in a genetically determined level, there's a reason people from certain cultures, race, environment, etc tends to date people that fits in a particular box.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/08/23 05:25 PM
13	I often hear women say "I have attractive male friends with awesome personalities, but I don't like them that way." If they're attractive, why aren't they attracted to them? Of course, women aren't swoon over every single attractive man, but if you're an attractive man you have a better chance of making a connection than someone who isn't.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/08/23 05:16 PM
1	What do you think is at the root of the “Femcel” phenomenon? Thanks for the information! Now to do some rabbit hole research.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/08/23 12:55 AM
2	You have three wishes, what dating behaviors in men/women would you change? I should've clarify what I meant by patience, what I meant was two things: Going with the flow/vibes where if I missed a couple of signals it's not due to a lack of confident or social ineptness. So I wouldn't be pressured to balance between pushiness and slowing down like a video game quick time event. Breaking the euphoria-to-flimsy cycle, where in the initial meeting/first couple of dates the energy and excitement is high BUT then like a flip of a switch want to bail out of commitment later d…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/08/23 12:54 AM
2	What do you think is at the root of the “Femcel” phenomenon? How's the housing market in the Philippines? It would be nice to retire there if the price is right. I make similar income but looking for higher pay at 27. I'm currently hard saving money and living a frugal lifestyle.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/08/23 12:40 AM
1	You have three wishes, what dating behaviors in men/women would you change? I've been lurking on these types of subs for years due to going down the RedPill and manosphere rabbit hole, but decided to post recently because I get bored at work sometimes.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/08/23 12:12 AM
3	What do you think is at the root of the “Femcel” phenomenon? The advice I would give to an average dude especially those in HS/college age would be that one of self preservation and to fight for what you want even if it means moving because we’re currently in a culture where they’re being told that they are useless, unwanted, and potential abusers/predators (some of your points proves the case). No reasonable person should be put in such a position. The problem with the passport bros movement is that they’re selling men terrible values and views on women,…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/08/23 07:58 PM
5	What do you think is at the root of the “Femcel” phenomenon? I never said it was going be easy, but if one of my goals in life want to raise a family I’ll figure out a way to obtain it even if it requires sacrifice and patience. Don’t you worry about me I’m in field that’s valued and needed globally, and it pays pretty well. I have the time and patience to readjust and adapt to a new culture and find a decent job related to my field elsewhere. But I don’t want to because I haven’t completely lost all faith in the American institution, I’m quite comfortabl…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/08/23 07:29 PM
12	What do you think is at the root of the “Femcel” phenomenon? This confirms my slight suspensions. What it starting to sound like is that decent young men who do want a family and serious relationship should leave the west become passport bros unironically. Like what’s the point?	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/08/23 07:14 PM
11	What do you think is at the root of the “Femcel” phenomenon? Unfortunately, it’s a combination of inadequate social circle and environment.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/08/23 07:08 PM
3	Do you think marriage will die out completely once Women start out earning Men on average? Hey, imagine the average person or couple earn enough money to outsource those jobs frequently . :)	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/08/23 06:51 PM
2	Do you think marriage will die out completely once Women start out earning Men on average? Perfectly said.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/08/23 05:51 PM
1	Do you think marriage will die out completely once Women start out earning Men on average? Hard disagree. We have not loosen up any gender norms or expectations for familial, domestic, romantic, or sexual dynamics. Men would gladly be okay with trading off these roles if it were to be social acceptable. If we were to tell women "Hey, imagine coming to clean and spotless home after a hard day of work because your husband took the initiative, and he cooked you food that he found the recipe on YouTube. We can have that if we didn't look down on those roles." People taking on roles and re…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/08/23 05:02 PM
7	Do you think marriage will die out completely once Women start out earning Men on average? Loosen up gender expressions and norms is exactly what is killing marriage in the first place lol That's only because we've only loosen it up for women, and not men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/08/23 01:51 PM
30	You have three wishes, what dating behaviors in men/women would you change? Here's my three wishes: Destroy and bury pill ideology and other toxic online dating strategies that advise both genders to only seek out what is for their OWN interest instead of building and maintaining a relationship. Those dating strategies are one of the reason so many people are becoming unbearable. Relationships should be about companionship, building and maintaining. No person should go on some lengthy self-improvement trial just to get a partner, and no one should be waiting at the fini…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/08/23 01:50 PM
4	Do you think marriage will die out completely once Women start out earning Men on average? Yes if we don't loosen up gender expressions and norms. But I doubt that's ever going to happen in our lifetime.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/08/23 01:38 PM
1	if withholding sex is not a good way to secure commitment, then what is? Literally the things men are told to do which is pleasantness, intelligence, reliability, exclusivity, and provision. Offer something or a value that the man won't find anywhere else. Me personally I can cook and clean for myself, I don't want a maid.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/08/23 01:52 AM
2	if withholding sex is not a good way to secure commitment, then what is? Withholding sex is a good litmus test to vet out men who are looking for pump and dump/ONS, however it is also important acknowledge that in today's dating climate sex is considered one of the staples of going steady. I didn't make the rules. If women want to secure commitment without having sex after a few dates, they would have to follow the advice men are always given verbatim which is to think about what do you have to offer to that man that'll improve both your lives in the long run.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/08/23 01:04 AM
3	if withholding sex is not a good way to secure commitment, then what is? It is a tragedy but our current dating culture have shown men that having sex is one of priorities of going steady. I don't mind waiting for sex, I don't crave it BUT if it doesn't happen in a certain period of time women tend to ghost on me. Taking things slow and not pushing for sex, was a reason women have lost interest in me (Yes, this is what I've been told by them.)	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/08/23 12:49 AM
1	Can men have healthy boundaries without appearing toxic? Sure, there are a lot of dates or just initial conversations I have where I'm asked questions or received personal slights that are way beyond playful/flirty banter, that are clearly meant to put me off kilter to test my composure. Whenever I respectfully put my foot down and tell them to chill and that I don't find that cool, I'm either treated like I killed the vibes or I get told that I'm too sensitive to be around them. Despite my boundaries not being crazy or high, I just don't tolerate sne…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/08/23 11:51 PM
1	Can men have healthy boundaries without appearing toxic? Safety and reassurance are by far not the only or most boundaries. Most problems don't arise from this even. Emotional safety and reassurance are the top 3 reasons for divorces. For example, lack of commitment is the number one reason for divorce which is a part of reassurance. Men would accept outright abusing behavior because they're expected to endure. This thread would of never existed if we just recognize that men have their own boundaries, Jonah Hill's list shouldn't be a subject of cultur…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/08/23 04:43 PM
1	Can men have healthy boundaries without appearing toxic? By leaving,you are litterallly putting your foot down lmao, showing you ain't gotta accept that crap. By trying to change the abusing person,you show to much care for that person. Who said anything about changing the behavior of an abusive person? I literally said to leave if the person consistently disregard your boundaries. In a normal healthy relationship, partners should be okay with enforcing each other boundaries when it's accidently crossed. Like,if your partner said "I want sex with othe…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/08/23 04:30 PM
1	Can men have healthy boundaries without appearing toxic? That highly depends on one's definition of "flirty." This is why calling something a boundary shouldn't automatically mean it's above scrutiny or criticism. They're always next to each other, very touchy, the majority of tone of the conversation is suggestive, etc.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/08/23 04:19 PM
2	Can men have healthy boundaries without appearing toxic? Men are afraid to break the deal, because most women will never tolerate a man who scrutinizes or criticizes their boundaries regarding to their safety and reassurance. Don't we call those people creeps?	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/08/23 04:13 PM
1	Can men have healthy boundaries without appearing toxic? Everyone is allowed to have their deal breakers, but if it's a common theme that's shared by those you're dating... what am I supposed to do other than adhering to the no questioning and scrutiny standards?	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/08/23 04:12 PM
1	Can men have healthy boundaries without appearing toxic? Yes. You're more likely to constantly experience those horrible stuff if you don't put your foot down. We should able to assert and enforce our boundaries if someone crosses the line, and if that keep doing THEN you should leave the relationship.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/08/23 04:07 PM
2	Can men have healthy boundaries without appearing toxic? Technically, boundaries are when you're setting rules and limits regardless of imposition. You're arguing semantics, everything is a choice. I can choose to never pay rent, but I can face eviction which isn't in my best interest. Usually, when someone tells their partner especially in a marriage that "I will not stay with you if you choose to flirt with other women" what they're trying to say is to cut it out.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/08/23 04:00 PM
5	Can men have healthy boundaries without appearing toxic? Yeah, but that's your unique experience. For most women criticizing, scrutinizing, or even just questioning the reasonability of their boundary is a dealbreaker.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/08/23 03:43 PM
5	Can men have healthy boundaries without appearing toxic? You forgot to include the part of the quote where I mention those boundaries needing to be enforced. If I don't feel comfortable and get disrespected in both professional and personal spaces I will call it out and no tolerate it. Or else those boundaries means nothing. Boundaries are about controlling someone else's behavior for the sake of their comfort. For example, if a woman sees her husband getting too flirty with another woman, and she tells him cut contact or tone it down that is her cont…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/08/23 03:38 PM
4	Can men have healthy boundaries without appearing toxic? I agree with this on theoretical level, but practical? Nah, when it comes to boundaries we tend to treat it differently depending on gender. I know you mean well, but I get the feeling that you might not feel the same way about women's boundaries, especially regarding emotional safety and reassurance. We will never question or scrutinize a woman's boundary related to anxiety and fear by telling them to confront the heart of the issue instead of enforcing them, people will be put off.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/08/23 03:26 PM
7	Can men have healthy boundaries without appearing toxic? I disagree, you set boundaries for yourself to have other people respect it. What's the point of asserting, enforcing, or having a set of boundaries if you're not setting it for others? I would not like to be manipulated, a doormat or abused, but in order to not be those things I have to enforce it onto other people. The essence of boundaries is technically controlling other people's behaviors for reassurance.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/08/23 03:14 PM
1	Can men have healthy boundaries without appearing toxic? Yes, but only certain men can afford to assert those boundaries. I've had a complicated history with my personal boundaries due to experiences of being a people pleaser, bullied, told to man up, and being toss aside for someone else when they don't want respect it to it (I'm no longer any of those things.) Very rarely has my boundaries has been respected nor taken to consideration. Resulting with me having to constantly compromise bits and pieces of my boundaries so I wouldn't end up completely …	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/08/23 03:02 PM
2	If you had a son and he asked you how he can become a man, what advice would you give him ? I’ll teach him to take responsibility and have a sense of self preservation. I’ll also teach him the importance of having honor, principles, and character. I’ll also teach him the importance of taking care/looking after of those who are important to him and truly loves him. Teach him that sex isn’t everything but also nudge him to pursue romantic interests, and show him that admiration and intimacy is more important in the long run. Also to give him room to make mistakes and be exposed to the fl…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/07/23 06:44 PM
2	Would a lot of people be more happy with finding partners if they were willing to expand their age ranges? I was specifically talking about 20-25 year old women dating older men, which is more common than younger men dating older women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/07/23 04:50 AM
3	What was the original RP? I figured	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/07/23 04:05 AM
1	Would a lot of people be more happy with finding partners if they were willing to expand their age ranges? Nope, because what’s going to happen is that a lot of younger men in their late teens and college are going be out of luck due to women their age dating older men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/07/23 12:00 AM
2	What was the original RP? It’s funny because I’m actually on the feminist/progressive side. They have successfully shown throughout their history that gender expressions and norms aren’t concrete and roles can be switched around when necessary, for women but to came to men they took away the ladder. The best way to combat TRP is to eliminate masculine expectations and make it a choice. But they want to don’t want to do that because they’re current at a really good and comfortable spot culturally.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/07/23 11:37 PM
7	What was the original RP? At its core the RedPill is the “understanding of human nature, more specifically women’s behaviors.” Through various of terrible data and study collecting methods. The OG Redpill around a decade or so ago, was closely tied with the PUA and seduction community. The idea was that ANY guy could be an “alpha male” if he put in the work,self improve, and learn “Game.” It was really popular with the older millennial generation that were college ages at the time. Lately, they’ve made a slow shift towar…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/07/23 09:48 PM
0	The bald mans handicap If 40 isn’t old, then is 50 the new puberty?	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/07/23 09:12 PM
4	The bald mans handicap If 40 isn’t old, then is 50 the new puberty?	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/07/23 09:12 PM
2	If a man is really attractive, women will ignore his glaring red flags I disagree, when I see someone like Tate especially now with the whole court case… I think there are some levels of consciousness and awareness in what they’re preaching and lecturing. I don’t think RedPiller cares about relationships in general as long as they get theirs, to them it’s conquering over maintaining healthy relationships.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/07/23 10:25 PM
8	Went full-on pick-me as an experiment and got a boyfriend within a month. Apparently the meaning of pick me has broaden to reciprocity.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/07/23 03:15 PM
-4	Went full-on pick-me as an experiment and got a boyfriend within a month. Dude you’re replying to a women lol	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/07/23 03:13 PM
4	Went full-on pick-me as an experiment and got a boyfriend within a month. No, my question is when anyone implied that waiting to have sex is not treating men like humans?	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/07/23 03:09 PM
3	Went full-on pick-me as an experiment and got a boyfriend within a month. 4 and 5 are things normal people do with reciprocity, the problem here is that OP is love-bombing him and setting him up to fail when she decides to end her challenge	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/07/23 03:08 PM
13	Went full-on pick-me as an experiment and got a boyfriend within a month. I did a quick lurk of the subreddit. Read a bit of the sidebar content, and holy shit does it reminds me of the old school RedPill and seduction subreddit a decade back. Now I'm really starting to notice the cadence and tonality from that subreddit in a lots of places.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/07/23 06:26 AM
26	Went full-on pick-me as an experiment and got a boyfriend within a month. Where was any of that mentioned or implied?	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/07/23 06:11 AM
12	Went full-on pick-me as an experiment and got a boyfriend within a month. But that's not what a pick me is... A pick me is a woman who throws other women under the bus to appease men, for example women who says they're not to be like other women or say they like hanging out with men better cause they don't cause drama.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/07/23 04:51 AM
20	Went full-on pick-me as an experiment and got a boyfriend within a month. What's wrong with simplicity and straight-forwardness?	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/07/23 04:32 AM
5	Went full-on pick-me as an experiment and got a boyfriend within a month. In the next installment the audience is going to learn that this is the same tactics Andrew Tate and his brother used to form a sex trafficking ring.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/07/23 04:30 AM
273	Went full-on pick-me as an experiment and got a boyfriend within a month. How is being attentive and kind pick-me behavior? I thought pick-mes were women who throws other women under the bus to appease men. Imagine living life in tutorial mode where you can treat dating like a challenge, where all you need to do to keep a partner is to be mutually attentive, kind, and considerate. Hell, you didn't have to do #6.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/07/23 04:19 AM
1	You can choose who you're attracted to Usually when people cheat on each other, it's because they're missing something in the relationship. Long-term relationships and marriages isn't about constant excitement and spontaneity, hell the average couple "fall out love" with each other after 7 years. Which is why companionship and routine are crucial in maintaining a relationship. Propinquity describes the reason people become friends or partners, and not what maintains it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/07/23 01:45 AM
4	If a man is really attractive, women will ignore his glaring red flags I don't know what incels you've been running into, but the ones I know come off too shy, anxious, and depressed to be creepy, annoying and obnoxious. But that's just my observation. Hell, when I hear about men spiking drinks to take advantage of women, raging out on a women's rejection, and stalking 2/3 of those are mostly exhibited by fuckboys. But hey... if you find them interesting that's your prerogative.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/07/23 12:59 AM
2	If a man is really attractive, women will ignore his glaring red flags Because being annoying and boring is a trait very aligned with being an incel / creep. Boring yes, annoying ehh. Incels tend to be on the quieter social anxiety side of things. Maybe that's just my experience, because I hangout with a lot of nerds. While fuckboys, as you correctly stated, may be entertaining, and that’s what women tend to fall for Aren't Fuckboys notoriously known for being annoying and obnoxious? Also, when I say "women do tend to entertain fuckboys" I'm talking about level of …	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/07/23 12:45 AM
2	If a man is really attractive, women will ignore his glaring red flags Social class is irrelevant if those women are going dating and sleeping with these men. Like I mentioned before, I know many prestigious women with good prospects who are dating drug dealers and men in prison.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/07/23 12:28 AM
0	You can choose who you're attracted to Sorry for going slightly off-topic but conversion therapy is a tough one, because we've not figured out whether if sexual orientation is mostly genetic or environmentally influenced.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/07/23 12:16 AM
1	You can choose who you're attracted to This might be controversial but I think most of that stuff are mentally and socially conditioned, and has been amplify up to 1000 by the internet. There's a social psychology term called propinquity, which reveals that the longer you share a space with someone the more likely you're form a relationship with them whether if it's friendship, dating, or hooking up regardless of the initial meeting. Our brains are very plastic and flexible, hell we have not even come close to actual scientific concl…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/07/23 12:11 AM
1	You can choose who you're attracted to To be fair, I don't think OP was talking about something hardlined as sexual orientation.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/07/23 11:58 PM
1	You can choose who you're attracted to There's social psychology term called propinquity, where the longer you're around a person the more likely you'll either be friends, develop a crush, or start dating. For example, there used to be a coworker at my job who if I were to see her photos on a dating app I would've swiped left, but for some sociological reason the longer I was around her and got to know each other better I suddenly found her physically attractive.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/07/23 11:55 PM
1	You can choose who you're attracted to There are hardline built-in attractions and soft tweakable attractions, but what's important is if those attractions are reasonable and attainable to the person. Sexual orientation is what I would consider to be mostly hardline built-in, while facial and body appearances are mostly tweakable. In my honest opinion, I don't think most people (both men and women) have a lot of hardline untweakable attraction and a lot of our attraction is mostly mental and social conditioning that can be broken out…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/07/23 11:28 PM
5	If a man is really attractive, women will ignore his glaring red flags Metalcore? Hardcore? Sorry if I say something ignorant, but aren’t those guys the bad boys? LMAO, most metalcore and hardcore dudes outside the moshpit are relatively average or dorky. Then again I'm speaking purely from personal experience.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/07/23 05:28 PM
4	If a man is really attractive, women will ignore his glaring red flags Have you ever heard that one Chris Rock quote "When you meet somebody for the first time, you're not meeting them, you're meeting their representative." Regardless of who that person is, when we meet anyone for the first time they're putting on what they think is a "I want to make a good first impression" face on. Very rarely have I ever met a decent or horrible person who advertise their entire personality right away, it's very natural for people to slowly expose their true selves over time. It…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/07/23 05:22 PM
6	If a man is really attractive, women will ignore his glaring red flags They can have pull, but if they don’t have more than others specifically for being drug dealers, then the theory is incorrect. Where I'm from they definitely had more pull than others. To the point when I was a kid/teenager wannabe gangsters was a thing. The romanticization and glorification of gang culture is a popular theme in many urban fiction books that mostly women read. I’ve seen artists, nerds, good guys, have women interested in them, so then? Why do you people do not count the examples…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/07/23 04:48 PM
5	If a man is really attractive, women will ignore his glaring red flags That’s good that you have that ability. Most of us though give people a baseline level of trust and only revoke it when it’s been broken. Unless if you're incel or socially awkward dude who could be a decent person but people cannot overlook their social awkwardness, they don't receive that baseline level of trust to begin with. I don’t have the emotional bandwidth to be constantly scanning for clues and flags and potential character flaws. But we do with incels and socially awkward men. Red fla…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/07/23 04:36 PM
7	If a man is really attractive, women will ignore his glaring red flags I’ve never seen a woman like drug dealers unless they into drugs to begin with. And while many women indeed ignore red flags when the guy is attractive, they usually also do not think he is boring if he is attractive even if the guy is dull and goody two shoes. You'll be surprised on the amount of pull drug dealers/gangbangers have on so many women especially in the inner cities. You're somewhat correct on the attractive part, but if you're attractive and a badboy... you got it lol.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/07/23 04:22 PM
3	If a man is really attractive, women will ignore his glaring red flags I came from a inner city background where I had to learn how to read people very early to avoid being a sucker. Reading people isn't about detecting whether if they're good or bad. It's about recognizing patterns of behaviors/social decorum/intentions, levels of consistency, and how much you know about the individual's past. My tactics of reading charismatic or rhetorically gifted people are watching their actions, ignoring flattery, and learning about their past from other people.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/07/23 04:00 PM
7	If a man is really attractive, women will ignore his glaring red flags If you're a child/teenager I'll grant you that, but if you're a grown ass adult you should know better. People are not that hard to figure and vet out regardless of social skills and charisma. Unless you're dealing with a sociopath or pathological liar.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/07/23 03:38 PM
15	If a man is really attractive, women will ignore his glaring red flags Redpillers are completely aware of how abusive men lie and manipulate people, it's literally one of their core tactics in attracting women. In the black manosphere Iceberg Slim's book PIMP, is constantly held up as the holy grail of "understanding women." The actual problem is a lot women regardless of background are attracted to men who exhibits these behaviors and red flag despite of the woman's awareness of them. They would date these men and get thrown through the wringer, resulting with the…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/07/23 03:20 PM
2	If a man is really attractive, women will ignore his glaring red flags So basically NAWALT.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/07/23 02:51 PM
13	If a man is really attractive, women will ignore his glaring red flags Are the majority of women and single mothers dealing with high level manipulators like Hannibal Lecter or Dexter Morgan? It's wild how we can easily sniff out incels and awkward men, but for some reason cannot sniff out badboys/fuckboys.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/07/23 02:44 PM
–	CMV beeing a smooth Talker / high charisma will improve you‘re smv more then most men today believe, this is backed by „every top salesman does well with women“ theory The idea that you need to be James Bond levels of smoothness is Hollywood levels of serendipity.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/07/23 06:38 AM
1	Nice Guys are really just lazy. I think the biggest problem isn’t that nice guys are lazy, but how men and women are raised to believe that women are the prize. Most people are boring, average, doing the bare minimum by winging it. You mentioned things do to be physically attractive to men, when we even do it too. Men also shave, get haircuts, workout, buy and take of nice clothes, and take care of their faces/skins to attract women. I’ve never met a man who doesn’t care about his hygiene and appearance when they want to want …	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/07/23 07:24 PM
–	I feel like people are becoming more and more fickle This over here is the issue I'm currently having. The lack of consistency, tenacity, and commitment is killing me. Take someone out on a date have a good time and build good rapport, mutual excitement for the next date and then like a flick of a switch pull the plug or straight up vanish like clockwork. You can't escape the headgames and entertainment because most are playing it. What point should you expect things to feel more steady? Around after you guys sleep with each other. Sex is what sep…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/07/23 01:14 PM
7	[Q4All] Whats your thoughts on some men saying the only women who flirt/hit on them are much older? Older women are a lot more socially adjusted, confident, and straight forward because they came from a different era and have experience, the same could be said about older men. Personally I think a lot older single people (men and women) are lonely in ways that are worse than people my age and younger, which forces them to be a lot more open, confident, and go-getting to socialize with other. There's a reason whenever you go to a local events, fundraising, community centers, churches, and non-p…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/07/23 05:38 PM
5	What are these “ movies and media” that everyone always references for blue pill The Blue Pill tropes mostly show up in children and teen media, especially in the past. Themes of just be yourself, there are no such thing as leagues everything is just pure confidence, be her friend because she'll eventually come around, and the one I cringe at the most... the nerdy borderline autistic loser teen boy who's completely oblivious of the alt/goth/punk best friend who has a massive crush on him. These days most shows and movies that focuses on characters around young adult tend to …	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/07/23 05:19 PM
6	The modern dating world has been somewhat ruined by OLD, but it's mostly men's fault. That’s fair and understandable. I tend to run into boring people complaining about how everyone else is boring lol. Me personally I don’t mind boring and mediocre, if anything I rather that than constant spontaneity.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/07/23 02:05 AM
23	The modern dating world has been somewhat ruined by OLD, but it's mostly men's fault. The problem is that most people are average, boring, and mediocre that also includes the women. If you want a entertainer or comedian go to a club or concert.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/07/23 12:09 AM
7	The modern dating world has been somewhat ruined by OLD, but it's mostly men's fault. It's the fault of the app developers, not men who use them. 99% of the men on apps are just boring, not creepy or gross. To be fair most people are boring and painfully average. The algorithms also actively encourage gross fuck boys. Women respond to creepy proposals because they inspire a reaction, even if it's just to say "Fuck off". And responses of any kind boost a guys score. They would work better if the swipe stack was completely random. This 100%. The algorithms encourages active communi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/07/23 12:06 AM
1	The modern dating world has been somewhat ruined by OLD, but it's mostly men's fault. I agree, but human sexual dynamics are a lot more complicated than that.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/07/23 10:38 PM
13	The modern dating world has been somewhat ruined by OLD, but it's mostly men's fault. Horny yes, promiscuous no. Most people (men and women) aren’t as promiscuous as the internet led people to be Men do shame women for their body count, but women also shame and dismiss men who are either a virgin or inexperienced. It goes both ways.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/07/23 10:35 PM
2	CMV : Your parents could mostly buy houses easily, you can’t. Your parents found partners and had families, you can’t. It’s normal. THANK YOU!	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/07/23 07:24 PM
4	CMV : Your parents could mostly buy houses easily, you can’t. Your parents found partners and had families, you can’t. It’s normal. Holy shit. This guy gets it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/07/23 07:23 PM
7	CMV : Your parents could mostly buy houses easily, you can’t. Your parents found partners and had families, you can’t. It’s normal. This 100%. This over here was one of my fears when finishing college. There’s not a lot viable places to meet people and build a community organically once you get into the workforce these days. In my opinion the level of materialism we’re experiencing today is due people not having a community/club/group to look forward to after work. People convinced themselves in order to be happy and fulfilled they NEED to be millionaires with a bunch of assets. But when you look back, most people were conte…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/07/23 07:11 PM
1	Dating advice for men That’s good for you, but when if they’re clear social and cultural norms that either obsolete and toxic to the other 50% of the population I think it’s worth pointing out. I won’t because I don’t want a world where my son, my nephew, and other boys are told “Look at these groups of people who defied unfair social norms and broke out, but for you? Nope, business as usual” Why should they? Throughout American history progressives were able to bring other “losers” of our society, when it comes to m…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/07/23 02:28 PM
1	Dating advice for men It’s not about percentage nor about “bring women to their knees” it’s about being heard. In regards of how close we are, terms like “blackpill” and the I word have reached mainstream outlets and a growing number of younger men feeling disenfranchised is saying something.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/07/23 02:12 PM
5	Women mostly get “the ick” over perceived shortcomings of masculinity I know a lot of women who does this in real life, hell I’m in group chats with women who ended dates because a guy’s hand was a bit shaky.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/07/23 02:07 PM
1	Women mostly get “the ick” over perceived shortcomings of masculinity You're being dishonest. I know you wouldn't never ask for stats or research to know how much women are in risk of being SA, you can see it through observation and pattern recognition. Also, you're putting your close male friends against multiple people on this thread (both men and women) and current online trends who knows what's going on. Exceptions don't make the rule.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/07/23 08:31 PM
2	Dating advice for men Nope, It's about challenging liberals who are picking and choosing which groups get to benefit from the fruit of progressivism and which gets left behind. For the past 100 years, women have fought to climb to ladder of social progress and freedom from restrictive gender roles, and when it got to men we pulled the ladder away and pressure them to keep playing along to archaic roles.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/07/23 08:16 PM
1	Women mostly get “the ick” over perceived shortcomings of masculinity Your ability to generalize is limited? I know numerous of men IRL who been SA. But, I know that both of us would have no problem generalizing SA as something that mostly affects women. Whenever we hear about "icks" whether if it's real life or online, it's mostly done by women. Men are a lot more lenient unless you're hanging out with the very small top echelon of men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/07/23 08:00 PM
1	Women mostly get “the ick” over perceived shortcomings of masculinity Sure there might be a couple of men, but it's mostly being done by women. Very rarely would you hear about a man losing interest in a woman for minor social hiccups or choice of what to put on their food.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/07/23 07:29 PM
2	Dating advice for men It's not even about getting pussy or forcing women to sleep with men. It's about how progressives and the current culture zeitgeist left so many men behind and/or dismissed them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/07/23 07:06 PM
2	Dating advice for men How would the have nots revolt? It would be interesting to see mass men on the streets protecting for lack of pussy. Easily, by convincing just enough men to stop participating and check out from the economy, infrastructure, social enforcements, or even leave the country through accelerationism. As a reminder to our nation, that the majority of those in our law enforcement and nation defenses are made up of men. Our rights, laws, and social standards were granted and enforced by men. The fight w…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/07/23 06:42 PM
1	Women mostly get “the ick” over perceived shortcomings of masculinity It's point out unreasonable standards and absolute trivial matters that in the most part doesn't matter.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/07/23 05:40 PM
1	Women mostly get “the ick” over perceived shortcomings of masculinity The problem is the level of discernment. Human beings are not perfect logical creatures, we all have flaws and blunders that will be exposed the longer you around the person. flaws and icks are being treated as red flags, when they're not. There are women who will cut off all contact and lose interest if a man voice cracks. There's a video of a woman who ended a date because the man didn't want to put cheese on his burger to save money.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/07/23 05:26 PM
2	Women mostly get “the ick” over perceived shortcomings of masculinity But a nasty personality isn't a "ick" that's a red flag.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/07/23 05:15 PM
63	Women mostly get “the ick” over perceived shortcomings of masculinity It's stuff like this that gets me so blackpilled and jaded. The hoops, the absurdity, and the contradictions are extremely exhausting. I don't even know why men are continuing to ask these questions and have discussions, when most women in these subreddits or discussions know what's going on. Most women knows there's a internal contradictions and outright unfairness in dating from the male POV. They just don't care because there's no incentive for them to do so.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/07/23 04:57 PM
2	Men can't cold approach, but they can't ask out their female friends either. What options are we left with? It's not that it's humiliating. It's just exhausting and it kills the self-esteem especially when you're rejected multiple times.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/07/23 11:12 PM
1	The best possible option for highly educated, high earning, healthy weight men in the west is to passport bro. I figured that you were going to get these kinds of results. There's a lot of women from SEA, South America, and Mexico shows up on my city swipes either due to a bug or they just want to talk to Americans, and from my experience whenever I match one of them they tend to be a lot more kinder, patient, receptive, and engaging. But I'm not a passport bro, if I ever decide to leave America it would have to due to reasons much bigger and important than finding a partner. Also, if I am going to live …	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/07/23 01:46 PM
6	Red pill advice is a terrible doubled edged sword for autistic men As a man who's been to therapy since teen-hood, it has been largely ineffective when it comes to dating and sex. The problem isn't that it's effeminate, it's that there's only so much therapy can do because what it provides is self actualization and emotional intelligence in an individual level. There's a broad and cultural issue related to our dating and sexual dynamics, that cannot be solved by dumping individual men into therapy. The reason men take that as an insult from women, because it's …	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/07/23 07:23 PM
2	Red pill advice is a terrible doubled edged sword for autistic men There used to be a time where people were given basic conventional wisdom with the sprinkles of universal social skill advices to have in mind, and we just live our lives. I find the entire self improvement sphere to be incredibly corny and I think people suggesting it are secretly trying to tell you to STFU and embark on a never-ending snipe hunt so no one would ever have to examine broad and societal issues. Confidence, being healthy, having a career, building a skillset, and learning social s…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/07/23 06:58 PM
3	Red pill advice is a terrible doubled edged sword for autistic men The real answer is discernment, patience, and understanding to a reasonable extent of course. But I have serious doubt that's ever going to happen because there's no incentives for women to do those things if they other options in line tbh. There's so much burden and onus put onto men to even precisely steer a conversation from flirty/banter into a sexual one. If you're not "smooth enough" the person could feel uncomfortable, unsafe, or turned off, and if you don't it they're going to feel like …	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/07/23 06:45 PM
–	2 years of online dating. Here are the things I've learned about women Holy shit, I’m with you on not having a switch for sexual side. If I just met you in person I need some rapport, vibes, and comfortability before throwing in any sexual innuendo. I’m too focus on riding the wave of vibes to mentally check off a list.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/07/23 05:23 PM
–	2 years of online dating. Here are the things I've learned about women Jesus Christ are we talking about dating or how to pass a job interview? It’s no wonder so many dudes are tapping out. It’s literally not enough to have a good time or to be socially adjusted, nah you have to have a checklist and treat every interaction as a video game quick time event where if you miss one minor signal it’s a bust. It’s so unnatural and inorganic that it's shaping men into anxious stiff robots who’ll be more focused on behaving in the most optimized way than to actually vibe an…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/07/23 05:15 PM
–	2 years of online dating. Here are the things I've learned about women At best it makes dating feel like job interview or entrance exam and at worst I feel like a circus monkey being told to dance.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/07/23 05:07 PM
1	Dating in the Modern Age is Analogous to Wealth Inequality in Later Stage Capitalism. I’m good, I’m not going to placate to a standard that is clearly fucking people over for no good reason.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/07/23 10:46 PM
1	Dating in the Modern Age is Analogous to Wealth Inequality in Later Stage Capitalism. No, what we need is patience, communication and consistency. I’m too old to treat every conversation and moment with a date as a zero-sum video game quick time event where ONE missed signal or mistake is total failure.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/07/23 09:31 PM
5	Dating in the Modern Age is Analogous to Wealth Inequality in Later Stage Capitalism. What I see is men of all ages expecting quick sex because it’s sort of expected these days. I’m also nearing 30 with a lack of real relationship skills. One thing I’ve been noticing is that, the women I go on dates with don’t like taking things slow and expecting me to make moves and act pushy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/07/23 07:31 PM
3	Dating in the Modern Age is Analogous to Wealth Inequality in Later Stage Capitalism. Yeah… but it could be read as being desperate which had happened to me in the past. And taking things slow is read as not confident or interested enough which also happened to me in the past.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/07/23 07:24 PM
4	Do you guys even like women? Why? I treat this sub as a fun back-and-forth when I have downtime at work. I don't see it as hate but just a critique of the social and cultural standards, that's affecting a group of people. From what I observed both online and IRL, EVERYONE is frustrated and jaded by the current dating culture and sexual dynamics. When I hear heterosexual women both online and IRL talk about how men ain't shit, manchildren, manipulators, deadbeats, bums, creeps, etc I don't assume that they're misandrists or whini…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/07/23 03:48 PM
2	CMV : Statistical average doesn’t matter one bit, our brains only register “potential” average. Most people are below that average. Nope, most people just go with the flow of life without thinking about developing hobbies and interests. I personally don’t think there’s anything wrong with being boring or mundane, my issue is those who are boring and mundane demanding other to be interesting without putting any work in.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/07/23 09:51 PM
2	CMV : Statistical average doesn’t matter one bit, our brains only register “potential” average. Most people are below that average. Nah, I think people in general are not as special or interesting as they think they are. Women are no different. I didn’t really ask for your disingenuous luck, but thanks though lol	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/07/23 09:35 PM
–	CMV: Say what you want about TRP, but it's messed up that nice, perfectly normal dudes struggle to get basic women while literal thugs and walking red flags slay with women just because they're overconfident. Huh? You don’t have a be a narcissist to be a boss or manager. Also, I recognize that there are more men with NPD than women which is why I switched out “men climbing corporate ladder” with just narcissistic men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/07/23 07:22 PM
8	CMV : Statistical average doesn’t matter one bit, our brains only register “potential” average. Most people are below that average. As someone with real hobbies, interests, and fulfillments who puts in effort in my profile and pictures, most women are not so different. I’m going to assume that you have never seen the other side, most women on the apps are boring and unappealing. One of the biggest problems I’m facing is profiles with little to no information about themselves, other than asking people to follow their social media or just have “Ask Me” on their bios. Most messages sucks to because most of them don’t do anythin…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/07/23 07:12 PM
–	CMV: Say what you want about TRP, but it's messed up that nice, perfectly normal dudes struggle to get basic women while literal thugs and walking red flags slay with women just because they're overconfident. Because those men who climbed up the corporate ladder are exceptionally rare compared to narcissistic women. Now if you were to say why aren’t men aren’t concerned about narcissistic men as they are to narcissistic women then, that’ll be a good question. Also, me personally I avoid and cannot stand arrogance and narcissists.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/07/23 06:57 PM
10	CMV: Say what you want about TRP, but it's messed up that nice, perfectly normal dudes struggle to get basic women while literal thugs and walking red flags slay with women just because they're overconfident. Very much agree with your points. A narcissist is usually far better put together than the average joe. Ask the average guy to keep up with his fashion and hygiene and he will puke at the thought. Have you ever met an actual narcissist? Those people are a mess inside and out. What "average man" are you running into? What average guy has contempt for basic hygiene and fashion? Am I being gaslit? If you hang around with the same 6 people constantly and wonder why the 2 girls in the group are not i…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/07/23 03:40 PM
1	Women let men work for them, think for them and take on their responsibilities, and they call this "masculinity". Lack of emotional control and intelligence, the capability of inflict physical harm/danger to others, high levels of aggression/anger, domineering with little regards to boundaries. Of course those traits nuanced. But you're a feminist who believes that toxic masculinity exists and is harmful, there needs to be a conversation about the contradiction of preaching about toxic masculinity but have no problem dating/having sex with men who exhibits those behaviors.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/07/23 02:36 AM
2	Women let men work for them, think for them and take on their responsibilities, and they call this "masculinity". I'm starting to feel the same as the years goes by. I feel like the movement has been taken over by opportunists who doesn't care about tearing down nor challenging the patriarchy, unless it solely concerns women. It's ironic that if you read famous feminist essays and thoughts, the natural conclusion to their ideas is to eventually lift gender roles and expectations of men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/07/23 03:26 PM
3	Women let men work for them, think for them and take on their responsibilities, and they call this "masculinity". Well that's the problem they have to face, because they're picking and choosing social norms.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/07/23 03:04 PM
2	Women let men work for them, think for them and take on their responsibilities, and they call this "masculinity". Other than changing a flat tire, what other work do men do for their wife or girlfriend? What responsibilities do men take on for their wives/girlfriends? That's a trick question that indicates whether or not you're in a healthy relationship. It's not about what a man can for his wives nor what a wife can do for her man, it's taking roles that plays on the individuals strength and availability. Oh, the wife is good at and knows a lot about ______? Okay, we'll ask turn to her for this. Oh, the hu…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/07/23 02:40 PM
9	Women let men work for them, think for them and take on their responsibilities, and they call this "masculinity". I disagree, I live in one of the most progressive cities in America... probably in the world. Majority of my peers, friends, and the community I hang around with are VERY left leaning. I know women who went to college with me that wrote papers and articles about how destructive and oppressing gender roles are in a systemic and articulate fashion, citing famous feminist thinkers and gender theorists. But when I ask them (cis hetero women) what do they want and expect from a partner, like what kin…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/07/23 02:09 PM
0	This sub really needs to stop calling men who struggle in dating "socially inept" Of course if you don't have a cover or a "sales pitch" you will fail, that was not what I talking about. I was speaking more on a nuance level, like if the book has a average/subpar cover but the contents are decent. A book can have a nice cover but you're eventually going to have to read it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/07/23 07:27 PM
13	This sub really needs to stop calling men who struggle in dating "socially inept" Men were expected to be the breadwinners because for the vast majority of human history, women were not allowed in professional and leadership roles. You know who set that system up? Men. Nope. The system was setup by a minority of powerful men on the top of hierarchy. Throughout the vast majority of the human history, the average man was expected to throw their lives away to fight wars and battles instigated by those at the top. If you go further back if you came from a poor family, you were se…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/07/23 07:13 PM
5	This sub really needs to stop calling men who struggle in dating "socially inept" Every marital artists, arms instructor, and self defense coach that are worth their salt will strongly advise you to avoid conflict and get the fuck away, words exchange are not required. I don't owe a creepy ass stranger my time or energy. If my partner has a problem with it it's all good, I didn't sign up to become someone's personal meatshield.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/07/23 06:32 PM
7	This sub really needs to stop calling men who struggle in dating "socially inept" A better partner is someone who's able to complement your life regardless of the quality of their initial "sales pitch." Action and time speaks louder than a book cover.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/07/23 06:24 PM
31	This sub really needs to stop calling men who struggle in dating "socially inept" Holy shit, give me a break. "Men finally have to add value outside of having a job." "They can't handle doing the things women have always done for their partners/families" What kind of broken/dysfunctional homes did most of you people come from? Men were always expected to be more than breadwinners. Men are usually expected to take on roles that require leadership, handiness, and protection even to this day. A healthy relationship and marriage is one where the man and woman complement each othe…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/07/23 06:16 PM
2	I see a lot of manosphere podcasters just not living upto what they say. Yeah because most of them are salesman and con artists, that preys on the insecurities of young men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/07/23 03:59 PM
2	Women who are in "alternative" scenes like punk rock/metal/raves etc, are more open to dating broke or short men but red pill men don't want those types. You're correct on the broke part lol. But height and looks, ehh it depends. I'm an average looking black dude I don't have piercings or tattoos but I've dressed the part and dyed my hair... only one time. I've been to numerous of metal/metalcore/punk rock/hardcore shows in my city and even other states since I was a teenager. To this day I still love and embodied the music, ethos, and attitude those scenes and subcultures offered, because I relate more to the weird and eccentric crowd. Yeah, the…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/07/23 03:06 PM
1	The dating market isn't fair and isn't meant to be fair, so we should give young men a break Can make the same argument for those college men that has “no game” they’re not that old either.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/23 07:50 PM
1	The dating market isn't fair and isn't meant to be fair, so we should give young men a break The scale is different, but the scenario is the same. Group A are the top remarkable minority that could have it all, and Group B are the unremarkable that either have little or nothing. You’re telling Group B to participate in a rat race in hopes to be in Group A, the difference between this and wanting to be a millionaire is that the unremarkable people are being told to go on numerous trials just be with another unremarkable person.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/23 07:38 PM
1	The dating market isn't fair and isn't meant to be fair, so we should give young men a break You see this as a problem. I see it as an opportunity. There are so many ways to become remarkable in some respect and the majority of men aren't doing them. Bad news for men as a whole, but good news for you as an individual. And there are opportunities and chances for anyone to become a millionaire, but can everyone become a millionaire? No. To be remarkable or a millionaire you need an abundance, and order to have an abundance someone has to have little or nothing. Creating a "race to the bot…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/23 04:18 AM
9	The dating market isn't fair and isn't meant to be fair, so we should give young men a break I'm going to keep it stack. But most people (both men and women) don't go through life with the mindset of developing a tangible identity, they go with the flow and things just happens to them. Most people don't have a giant consistent blueprint on how they're going to build every inch of their lives. Speaking as someone with dedicated life-long hobbies and interests (and I'm not talking about video games), most of the women I'm running into literally have nothing going on with them. I don't mea…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/23 03:53 AM
3	The dating market isn't fair and isn't meant to be fair, so we should give young men a break Why can't people behave like well-adjusted adults who knows how to communicate with their words, and doesn't throw the onus on everyone else understand vague messages? The average man has no game? Who unironically uses the word "game" in real life other than RedPillers and high schoolers?	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/23 03:01 AM
5	What is one thing you would change about male acculturation? I disagree wholeheartedly from personal experiences and environment. I grew up in the inner city with blacks and hispanics, and let me tell you how not clueless these men are about appearances. Growing up I had peers who would never step outside their house without a good haircut, I knew dudes who showed off clothes at school and work, I knew sneakerheads who hearts would drop if their new shoes got a little nick.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/06/23 08:50 PM
3	What is one thing you would change about male acculturation? I'll change 3 things: TL;DR 1. Stop shaming virgins/inexperienced men. 2. allow men to express their emotions for the sake of emotional intelligence, and not solely for the benefit of women. 3. We need a new set of universal standards for masculinity. The immense pressure on young men to lose their virginity and to sleep with many women as possible to be taken seriously as potential partners. As it stands in the current social and cultural climate, a lot of women do not like virgin or inexperien…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/06/23 08:35 PM
1	Women, if cold approaching is unacceptable what do us men who are new to your area/social circle do? Been there done that, didn’t work out well.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/06/23 05:26 PM
1	Women, if cold approaching is unacceptable what do us men who are new to your area/social circle do? Where did I say I was approaching anyone before something stressful as the finals? Where did I say I was using weird pick up lines? You’re creating insinuations that were not even slightly implied.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/06/23 05:24 PM
2	Women, if cold approaching is unacceptable what do us men who are new to your area/social circle do? I disagree, but I wouldn't argue that having good looks makes you the second coming of Christ. It does however afford you a level of patience, kindness, and admiration that a lot of people wouldn't have. If you're not conventionally attractive any mistake, misreading, and hiccups are fatal, and that's if she decides to look past your looks. If you are attractive, your mistakes or blunders are written-off. No, they wouldn't feel fine meeting A guy in the gym, they want THE guy. If they see you an…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/06/23 03:23 AM
1	Women, if cold approaching is unacceptable what do us men who are new to your area/social circle do? I’m from the city and went to bar in the city, it’s a completely different vibe.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/06/23 09:48 PM
2	Women, if cold approaching is unacceptable what do us men who are new to your area/social circle do? BINGO!! On the good looking part. It’s not about cold approaching it’s all about if you looking good enough	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/06/23 09:47 PM
7	Women, if cold approaching is unacceptable what do us men who are new to your area/social circle do? I didn't make the rules either, I'm just speaking from personal experience and observation. I was told by numerous women in my real life, that they don't want to be approached in college because they're too busy and stress about schoolwork. They don't want to be approached at concerts because they just want to have good time at these shows with friends. Bars and clubs are not my scene and are terrible for conversations especially clubs, also I don't drink alcohol lol.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/06/23 04:10 PM
5	Women, if cold approaching is unacceptable what do us men who are new to your area/social circle do? I’m pretty sure those are both acceptable places to approach people. Where is it you are seeing it’s not OK to ask girls out you meet at a rock concert or college? I've been told by numerous women in real life (sisters, friends, coworkers, former classmates) that not only those places aren't appropriate BUT that they don't want to be approached in general. I've been told that being approached is annoying regardless of how you do it. I've been to numerous Punk/Hardcore/Metal shows with female fri…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/06/23 02:43 PM
17	Women, if cold approaching is unacceptable what do us men who are new to your area/social circle do? Bars and clubs are the worst places to meet someone if you don't fit a certain archetype or crowd. As someone who went to bars and crowd a couple of times, most men don't get any success from there. I used to go to concerts when I was younger, mostly Punk/Hardcore/Metal shows. Most people there only talk to friends or moshing, sure there are a few interactions but once the show is over chances are we'll never meet again. Plus concerts are becoming way too expensive to attend.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/06/23 02:30 PM
1	Simping is making dating absolutely unbearable and guys are enabling and reinforcing terrible behavior on both sides. Calling someone or something out that’s harmful is extremely effective, it’s “social sanctions.” It’s the soul of every civil rights and activist movements. It takes a collective to decide to where the line should be drawn. Just moving on isn’t enough if the issue is wide spread. How far should someone adjust their standards until it’s absurd? People keep preaching about men going after the hottest women and models, when that’s far from the truth. Most men average and are going after other avera…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/06/23 09:50 PM
6	Nonverbal consent THANK YOU! Holy Shit!! Thank you!! You've articulated what I've been thinking for a while now. When I was a teenager, I was told numerous times how to conduct myself and adhere to the 100% FULL ENTHUSIATIC VERBAK CONSENT mantra where in anytime it could be taken away, and BOOM you're in a some deep shit. I remember scoffing at jokes like "Haha we might have to make consent papers one day" but it's starting to feel like we're getting so much closer to that reality. We're so lost in the sauce it's…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/06/23 11:06 PM
17	Nonverbal consent To be honest this is out of men's hands. I mean what are we supposed to do, we didn't create the terms and conditions. If it sounds like a man isn't confident or appealing (because even women my age feel weird about the constant questioning), this is something women NEED to speak up about. For example, what you've described on your first sentence of the third paragraph, is a court case waiting to happen. Something has to be said, because apparently whatever is happening today isn't working.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/06/23 07:51 PM
8	Nonverbal consent Men around my age and younger have been told in various ways, that we're potential abusers and predators that are a couple of brain synapses away from SAing a woman. I'm not exaggerating or making this shit up, the level of apprehension women have for men from family members, friends, classmates, and coworkers has made stiff and nervous young men who are hyper-fixated on making women feel comfortable and safe. Speaking from personal experience body language and non-verbal are VERY relative and s…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/06/23 07:29 PM
9	Nonverbal consent The problem isn't social ineptness. The problem is the lack of a set of agreed universal signals that give men the okay sign. Men around my age and younger have been told in various ways, that we're potential abusers and predators that are a couple of brain synapses away from SAing a woman. I'm not exaggerating or making this shit up, the level of apprehension women have for men from family members, friends, classmates, and coworkers has made stiff and nervous young men who are hyper-fixated on …	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/06/23 07:28 PM
2	Loneliness in Men is different to Loneliness in Women Men don't need as much emotional support from others as women do. Men can even find peace in being completely alone and isolated for months. Proof of this is how hermits are almost always men. After following current internet cultural and social trends related to the manosphere and "pills" I disagree wholeheartedly, so many men are too socially maladjusted to find peace in isolation. There's a reason the suicide rates are high for men especially in their mid-life. Also hermits get by life throug…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/06/23 04:50 PM
1	Women are allowed to complain about the suitors they get but men can't I'm talking about in real life not online	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/06/23 12:02 AM
2	Women are allowed to complain about the suitors they get but men can't I'm talking about in real life not online	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/06/23 12:01 AM
4	Women are allowed to complain about the suitors they get but men can't I think he means social repercussions, sure you're allowed to complain but is there a space to do so without people thinking the worst of you.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/06/23 11:51 PM
0	CMV: The most obvious reason why modern dating is broken is because women have too many options because of the internet. The real problem is that you know very little about me. You didn't know that I've had hookups in the past or that I've had a couple of women interested in me. If you think I don't know what I'm talking about, then simply hide and ignore my thread.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/05/23 02:27 PM
1	CMV: The most obvious reason why modern dating is broken is because women have too many options because of the internet. I’m not just speaking from one experience. I’m speaking from the combination of having sisters, mostly female cousins, speaking with female classmates and coworkers, and my age in general. Am I not allowed to give my thoughts and answer questions on a subreddit that are about those things?	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/05/23 01:31 PM
1	CMV: The most obvious reason why modern dating is broken is because women have too many options because of the internet. Dude doesn’t know that the “argument” is over, and writing paragraphs about nothing despite criticizing others of doing the same lmao. Take a walk… cool off that hot head of yours big guy lmaoo	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/05/23 06:52 AM
1	CMV: The most obvious reason why modern dating is broken is because women have too many options because of the internet. Okay so we're just arguing about nothing lol? Cool, have a wonderful day✌🏿	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/05/23 05:10 AM
2	CMV: The most obvious reason why modern dating is broken is because women have too many options because of the internet. It's not about if the relationship is good or bad, it's about how women not needing romantic relationships with men in general to live a stable and fulfilled life. Men are in a position where in order for us to compete in the dating market, we need to provide something more than just dick (because she can get it anywhere), money (she can just go to college/trade school, find a sugar daddy, or open an OF/cam modeling profile), and status (do I need to explain this lol). Let me put it like this. I…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/05/23 03:47 AM
5	CMV: The most obvious reason why modern dating is broken is because women have too many options because of the internet. This is the correct answer. In the past women were selecting men solely out of provision and protection. This is why men were and are still taught and raised the ideals of cultivating a set of tools and assets, regardless of their own emotional and mental maturity. Right now men and the archaic concept of masculinity are facing a cultural and social dilemma where our once foolproof strategy to attract a mate is being challenged, and men are losing. Women no longer NEED men to live a comfortable …	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/05/23 10:55 PM
1	The women who end up as single "cat ladies" are usually not the typical hot, party girl I’m noticing this reality more and more as I get older, and it makes a lot of sense. Extroverts who has the charisma of the “life of the party” personality trait tend to be fine in the dating and platonic relationships. They have a pool of people to dive into and have the experience to know how to deal with people. I think one of the reasons men are obsess with women who has the IG party girl/h0e lifestyle, is because those are the types men are mostly exposed to plus those women have a large pr…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/05/23 11:29 PM
2	Nice guys aren’t really that nice First off, thanks for the measured and reasonable response despite my comment sounding resentful. I already proud of who I am in spite of my post history and tone lol, I’m not perfect but I am at the very least decent according to those around me and my accomplishments. Which is why I will always be defensive of my character and reputation. Being secure of yourself isn’t just not caring about opinions of others, it’s also about shutting down those who wants to provoke and tarnish your character.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/23 11:31 PM
11	Nice guys aren’t really that nice It’s posts and thread like these that makes me want to crawl into a hole, like what am I supposed to do? Am I just fucked? I missed that sexual development phase in my childhood because I was told to focus on building myself for sake of a future partner, I guess I’m just underdeveloped. I have no relationship experience to even quantify my attachment style, I cannot choose a attachment style without experience. Majority of the human race tie some of their self-worth onto the groups of people the…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/23 06:41 PM