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Why would you feel the need to tell anyone that anyways? Just do it and take it to the grave. No one has to know.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 09:43 PM
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Fair lol. Also I’ve done it before and it was super overrated tbh. It looks much better then it feels. I doubt that will change your mind though.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 09:37 PM
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I have never in my life heard it referred as that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 09:33 PM
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What the hell is breast relief?!?!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 09:30 PM
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Yeah, don't get me wrong, I generally agree with your enitre point but I always see this study cited without people fully looking into it. Good post overall though.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 05:44 PM
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The "single women are the happiest demographic" thing has been debunked for a long time. Please stop repeating it. The author of the study is full of shit. "Unfortunately, Dolan inadvertently misunderstood the data that justified this particular sage advice. He based his opinion on telephone poll results supposedly showing that women professed lower happiness levels when their spouse was out of the room, which would theoretically produce a more honest answer. In fact, interviewers weren’t asking…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 04:04 PM
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A lot of issues that men face are the same that everybody faces. I feel like a lot of hopelessness and despair that you see today are caused by economic issues. Homelessness, not being able to afford rent, not being able to afford a family and kids, working multiple shitty jobs, no health insurance. You help solve these for everyone and I guarantee that it will help men too.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 10:04 PM
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I get that but, at least on the romantic side, how many people could even get consistent FWB or ONS situations? It’s easier to just shoot for a bf or gf. Also I feel like MOST people still want something more. Usually these scenarios involve 1 person who will inevitably catch feelings. I want to be clear that I agree with your general point. It would be better for everyone if people were more romantically independent but I don’t know how realistic that is. You already see the results of this lif…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 09:21 PM
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You’re fighting biology. Humans evolved to be social creatures. We aren’t great white sharks. I don’t like whenever people try to constantly push this “just be happy single” “learn to enjoy your own company” “being alone is the best if you learn to like it” philosophy. Just because we are forced to live in a society which goes completely against our biological programming (people living alone, not having any friends, living away from family, not having a romantic partner) people try to justify i…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 08:19 PM
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Thats a fair take. Do you think if you let your narcissism out more it would be bad for attracting women?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 09:49 PM
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Are you saying that this would only work in short term flings? Not in a LTR?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 05:45 PM
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I guess I would think that a woman would choose the nice guy over the asshole if that’s the only difference. Also by “asshole” I mean a toxic guy who displays dark triad traits. Not a guy who simply isn’t a pushover. It’s much more than that. I never said being broke is being an asshole. I said that If a woman has a choice between a guy who is an asshole but is broke and generally has nothing going for him and a guy who is a nice guy and wealthier/ higher social status I am surprised she would g…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 05:42 PM
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That’s an interesting point. Yeah I think that the halo effect definitely makes us men perceive women as more nice and naive when in reality that might not be the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 05:20 PM
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This was a really great reply. Thank you
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 05:18 PM
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I guess my point is that on paper he would be better then the competition in the hood. Guys with no jobs, on welfare, drug dealers etc
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 05:15 PM
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12507975/female-prison-guards-sex-inmates.html They don’t seem that bad to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 03:00 AM
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That is such an insane statement that I don’t think you even believe it. An average woman has 100x more options vs an average man. It isn’t even close. At this point “undatable” men are basically everywhere not just in niche echo chamber forums.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 02:41 AM
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Are people stupid? No a woman who is happy to be a baby mama and doing drugs happily isn’t going to run to mister loser Joe who’s such an idiot he actually went to the hood to pick up women and hope they were desperate enough to pick him. Besides they could read him. The “too good for you” entitled white boy gets jumped in the hood not admired. He didn't move to the hood on purpose to pick up women lol he just ended up buying a house there due to cheap prices. Also his race is ambigious, he coul…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 01:11 AM
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EVERYBODY WANTS SUPER HOT PEOPLE. I am not disputing that. Yes if a man could choose anyone to be his partner he would choose a supermodel just like a woman would choose a male supermodel. The difference is a mid man will SETTLE for a mid woman and generally be happy. A woman will not be happy settling for a mid guy. Do you really believe that most below average women are only being used for sex?! They probably have guys who would LTR her but they are invisible to her and she doesn’t see them as…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 12:42 AM
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You are straw-manning my point as always. Being nice≠doormat. I’ve never claimed this. You are putting words in my mouth. Also being a nice person doesn’t mean that you cannot protect your loved ones and stand up when necessary. It just means that you have a friendly demeanor and are kind.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 12:27 AM
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You do not know enough (read:anything at all) about me to determine anything about my personality. I think if you met me IRL we would be friends actually 🙂 I mean men spawning children are more successful than lonely men when it comes to sexual success? That kind of illustrates it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 12:18 AM
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I mean those are like the worst case scenarios tbh. Usually it’s just a lot of arguing and stuff. I agree that if it’s that bad then maybe it’s better to stay away lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 12:15 AM
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I am not a redpiller
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 12:14 AM
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I definitely think that there is some truth in that, not just when it comes to dating but in general
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 11:26 PM
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It’s a mix of both. I’ve had female friends IRL so I did learn a few things. People can reveal a lot about their beliefs and motivations when they trust you. But even if it was all algorithm. What difference does that make? There are real women admitting to what I just said here. I understand that you have your own perspective and experiences and I’m not trying to just dismiss it but like I said already your truth doesn’t line up with mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 11:25 PM
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Im not really sure how to reply here? I never claimed to have asshole friends. Nor that I am a paragon of virtue. My post was about behavior that I started to notice in general not necessarily in my personal life.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 10:32 PM
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I think that sex is much more emotionally important for men then it is for women. A lot of a relationships IS sex for a man. That’s how they show their love, feel desired and connect with their partner. This isn’t their fault and they shouldn’t be shamed for it. That’s just how biology made us.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 10:29 PM
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I didn’t claim that these men have the end all be all success story but even these objective losers are able to have sex and even have kids while normal nice guys can’t even get a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 10:25 PM
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Mid and ugly woman absolutely DO get a chance. What are you even talking about? The only reason that they don’t have BFs or husbands is because they shoot way out of their league and refuse to settle for less. And then the attractive guys pump and dump them. Perhaps your story about being young and unwanted is true but it definitely isn’t the norm. Make a tinder profile of a below average man and then a below average woman. I am sure that you will get at least a couple guys willing to do an LTR …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 10:17 PM
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If I was married you would never catch me posting on this subreddit lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 10:11 PM
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We’re not debating whether they are terrible people or not. I don’t think that women liking asshole men makes them more terrible than men who like hot bimbo chicks. It’s simply in these people’s nature. What I am against is the constant gaslighting and insults whenever any basic truth gets pointed out.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 10:10 PM
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They aren’t all strung out hoes. There is a lot of women with good job that come from good families which end up with these kinds of men and even support them financially.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 09:10 PM
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If that’s the case then I want people to stop constantly saying “a woman can immediately tell when a guy is a misogynistic incel. She will know and be repulsed” Clearly they cannot or else this wouldn’t keep on happening. Maybe you learned that lesson but plenty of women seem to not.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 09:09 PM
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That is not my perspective at all. Toxic women aren’t the only ones attracted to toxic men. Plenty of regular girls also are. I’m not holding women to a higher standard than I hold men to. If men were glamorizing and falling for literal serial killers I would also call it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 09:08 PM
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I think that the main difference is that most women have a choice when choosing their partner and that most men will take anything they can get. These aren’t the same. There is no excuse for women constantly choosing bad guys and then complaining that they are bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 07:55 PM
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Please stop straw-manning me. The art that we produce and enjoy is correlated to our systems of belief, state of mind, desires and dislikes. I don’t see how you can deny that. There is a reason we love hero stories. Because we look up to these traits IRL. Maybe I am a loser but hobbies and friends do nothing to replace the void that most men without romantic partners have. I’ve been in bad relationships before and I would choose those over being single and lonely every single time. For women bei…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 07:28 PM
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I’ve never said that they are 🥰 Please stop saying this whenever we have a discussion about dating patterns and preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 07:13 PM
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I wouldn’t say it’s an obsession. This is a debate sub for gender dynamics. I’m not obsessed with this point. I just think that it’s the truth. Also I do not wear my beliefs on my sleeve and I doubt if we ever met in person you could immediately tell what I believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 07:00 PM
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We do in fact listen and then quickly realize that what you are saying and your actions are 2 completely different things. We do not envy asshole men. We envy their ability to attract women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 06:58 PM
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No it’s is popular BECAUSE it happens. It’s a trope people can relate with. Just like coming of age stories being popular. Our tastes in fiction and media often mirror what we believe and experience IRL. You shouldn’t dismiss it so easily. Also if you are desperate as fuck, then yes a toxic gf is better than lonely rotting without a doubt.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 06:35 PM
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I do both. And once you start seeing these patterns you cannot unsee them IRL. I used to be more skeptical of this claim myself but have come around with experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 06:20 PM
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What do you think made you attracted to these men in the first place? Or do you think you tend to attract these types of men toward you?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 06:01 PM
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Since you pointed out sociability. You said that considering all factors being equal a woman choosing between a nice guy and an asshole is 50/50? What makes you say that? Why wouldn’t women prefer the nice guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 05:53 PM
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Assuming Mr. Pushover and Mr. Desperate change their personalities and are more confident and less thirsty etc. Do you think that now they would be more desirable than Mr. Bad Guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 05:51 PM
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Are you saying that women don’t value career and education at all? Perhaps you are correct. I feel like most people are under the impression that these things matter a lot actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 05:49 PM
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What are some examples of civilized masculinity? What type of man are you referring to exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 05:46 PM
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I’m not saying that. What I am saying is that being a toxic asshole or a gangster certainly doesn’t stop you from being laid and that it might even be preferable if you’re coming from a nice guy background
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 05:45 PM
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I don’t know. I am around a lot of working class people and it’s not uncommon for a loser guy to have a lot of kids. Perhaps we just had different life experiences. I don’t want to dismiss your point
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 05:43 PM
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Did you miss all of the other traits I listed? The man in question seems to be a BETTER candidate compared to low life drug dealers and ex cons. Especially considering his higher status
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 05:40 PM
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It 100% is. Especially for a guy with no options. Yes there are bad and shitty moments but there are also moments of love and desire. I would be willing to bet that most FA/incel men would prefer a toxic gf than being perpetually single.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 05:38 PM
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I didn’t claim that women are a hive mind. Yes everyone is different and unique BUT there are trends that we can start to see. Behaviors that are common within the dating world. I guess it’s just surprising that a woman would prefer a man who literally mistreats her and is a horrible human being over a guy who might be a bit of a pushover or a little desperate. It’s something that I can’t really wrap my head around.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 05:21 PM
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And yet these are the exact kinds of men that women reproduce with. Why aren’t unattainable and confident nice guys being chased and desired by women like the bad boys are? Also a lot of women are perfectly aware of the personality of these men. They do not hide that they are assholes and yet that doesn’t seem to scare these women away at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 05:17 PM
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No. A nice girl to me is exactly that. A woman who is kind, caring and agreeable. These types of women are often attracted to toxic men. They do not have a preference for guys with their personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 05:14 PM
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I think that this is more than just confidence and fitness lol. There are plenty of normal nice confident people and it doesn’t seem to do anything for them. And there are a lot of not in shape gangsters who do great with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 05:10 PM
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I would if I could but yeah it’s super unnatural to me. Some people are born with it and some are not. It’s difficult to completely 180 your personality like that. I would also like to avoid prison.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 05:05 PM
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Care to elaborate?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 05:04 PM
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What exactly did you do when trying the toxic route? I personally have had the exact opposite experience that you did. Leaning into Dark triad traits, while unnatural and difficult for me, helped me a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 05:02 PM
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The study that I posted. In the conclusion section.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 04:59 PM
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I think that this is definitely a part of it yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 04:55 PM
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“In conclusion, the results of our study demonstrate that the Dark Triad male personality is attractive to women and this effect is not mediated by these men’s greater perceived Extraversion or Neuroticism“ How is this critical exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 04:54 PM
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I’m really tired of hearing this claim that women can sniff out misogynistic men like a well trained police dog. And yet they always end up being played by them. Whether or not a man is misogynistic or not doesn’t seem to have any influence on his dating success.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 04:53 PM
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Most drug dealers make less than minimum wage. Many leech off of the girls that they date or still live with their parents. I do agree that being a drug dealer usually self selects for a certain type of personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 04:45 PM
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Why is it that whenever we point out any strange or bad behavior by women we are always hating women? Your experience is the exact opposite of mine. I just feel like there is this large societal trend and everyone always downplays it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 04:42 PM
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I guess I just want you to understand the perspective which I am coming from. It kind of sucks being a regular nice person and told that this is exactly what women desire and then seeing the exact opposite behavior be rewarded en masse. Plenty of these women don't seem super naive or traumatized. I just cannot believe that every single one of these cases is some form of psychological abuse done to helpless women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 04:40 PM
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I mean are these types of men that I listed really so "desirable"??? It seems weird to have a preference for a deadbeat drug dealer than a guy with a proper career. Do you believe that toxic men are better or worse for the initial attraction phase?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 04:35 PM
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Tell that to all of the women who are always complaining about their boring, nice BF and how they just miss drama filled days of fighting with their ex. A large % of women don't seem to be satisfied with these perfect healthy relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 04:31 PM
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I guess its because they are high inhibition and won't throw their entire life away just for some pussy. Prison is no joke.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 04:29 PM
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If it only boils down to looks would you then believe that a woman would always choose a nice guy over an asshole if they have the same looks?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 04:28 PM
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Here is one: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0191886913012245
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 04:26 PM
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This is pretty reductive especially considering that women seem to seek out these kinds of men. They have hundreds of options to sort through and yet always end up with the toxic guys? Must be a coincidence i guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 04:24 PM
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This is pretty delusional. There is a reason that good girl/bad boy is so popular. It happens all the time. Also a toxic GF is still better than no GF
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 04:23 PM
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I mean it’s not just contained to hood areas. In white collar upper class offices located in wealthy areas it is usually the bullies that do better than regular nice guys. It seems to permeate social classes.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 04:18 PM
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Actually I disagree. A lot of good girls fall for toxic men. I’m not saying I want to be dating toxic women but I do at least want to be seen as a more viable option compared to literal criminals.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 04:16 PM
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I mean a lot of these guys are toxic? I don’t think thugs who shoot people on the regular are “just confident”. It is more than just not being a spineless loser.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 04:13 PM
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No one is forcing them to do anything. They are just simply attracted to these men more because they are richer than their local options. Yes they do have a bigger incentive to date them but that’s literally the same as a regular American girl getting with a rich guy. There is nothing immoral about that. Also I don’t think that these men seek these women out because they are poorer or easier to exploit but because they find them more desirable and are themselves more desirable so they have more …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 05:51 PM
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I’m not sure how I illustrated that at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 05:37 PM
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Sometimes the quality of the women is actually better- women overseas are less likely to be fat, feminists, tattooed etc. And they are more likely to be traditional. Yes it is possible to find these women in the west. They are just extremely desired so you’re competing with a bunch of other guys. There are 2 types of men who benefit from doing this. 1. Undesirable men who aren’t able to get anyone at all in their home country and suddenly have more options. 2. Men who can get options but are loo…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 05:14 PM
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I mean, yeah. They can assimilate to the local culture, learn the language, etc. I don’t think that’s what’s holding them back
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 04:50 PM
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True, but not to the extent that they do today. Overseas travel was expensive and long. It was never an option for as many people as it is today.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 04:48 PM
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Why are you characterizing these women as poor and uneducated?? They don’t always fit this stereotype. Do you believe that all passportbro relationships are just transactional? Many times both parties love and respect each other. Also these men aren’t going abroad with the PURPOSE to find a woman to abuse. They just go to find better options than what they have at home.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 04:26 PM
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No one is exploiting anybody. The women know exactly what they’re doing- securing a higher status/wealth man. Also please don’t characterize them as disabled children. These are adult women capable of making their own decisions. They aren’t all uneducated and poor. These relationships are often authentic and fulfilling to both parties.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 03:45 PM
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I’m sorry but I just don’t believe your advice will yield men who struggle any results. The problem is with attraction in the first place. They are either too ugly or poor to get women. But I do agree that effort does matter once they secure a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 03:33 PM
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Yes they are indeed qualities. Just like a woman looking for men that provide and protect. It has been a tradition for a long, long time and only now people like you are suddenly against others engaging in these types of relationships, even if both parties consent. Also no one is running away, they are just heading to greener pastures- which is the only reasonable and logical move for a lot of these men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 01:53 PM
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They aren’t blaming them for being born outside of the top 15-20% but they are relentlessly shamed if they do anything to improve their standing- for example looking for a woman abroad. Also men get told to “just improve” all the time but the truth of the matter is that haircuts and a gym routine will not save most of them. There is nothing they can do to become attractive to their local women. The passportbro movement allows them to at least have a chance for a normal dating life.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 01:50 PM
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I’m literally not shaming anybody. Also this post isn’t about ME personally. It’s about society as a whole.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 12:53 PM
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They absolutely are? I’m not sure what reality you live in but it’s literally a thing women themselves admit to doing. There are super popular social media posts with women admitting to doing exact things. “When I’m hungry I just open Tinder tehe”. Also it’s not a lot of trouble at all, the men are doing all of the legwork regardless so they will make everything easy for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 12:50 PM
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I’m not fetishizing anybody. I’m just pointing out that being a Betabux and a passportbro aren’t the same thing like you claimed. Also If a guy IS traditional and religious and looking for a woman with these values he is more likely to find them abroad compared to the west. Why is doing this wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 12:40 PM
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I’m saying that women as a group generally shame men who go abroad looking for love and relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 12:24 PM
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Not necessarily. A regular woman can go on Tinder and set up multiple dinner dates with men she knows she isn’t really interested in. And date multiple men at a time vying for her attention. I’ve personally seen women having male best friends who are clearly interested in them and just waiting for their chance. The men do give them gifts and attention. The women know that they will never date them but are happy to receive what they bring.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 12:24 PM
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I mean depends on where they are coming from and where they are going, yes poor men are able to do it. A poor guy from Norway or Switzerland is going to benefit greatly from the exchange rates in third world countries. Even a guy from the USA making just $40K a year would be considered upper class in a country like Thailand.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 12:14 PM
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No one is talking about mail order brides. No one is being exploited. It’s just a man dating another woman. There is mutual attraction there usually. Women who CHOOSE to date foreign men are not being taken advantage of. They aren’t children.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 12:10 PM
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They don’t always bring them back home. There are western men who live abroad permanently and have way better dating lives than they did back home. It’s not the man’s fault that women are attracted to resources. It’s no different than a western millionaire dating a regular working class girl in the west.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 12:07 PM
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You are straw-manning my post and being super uncharitable. I never claimed that these men are paying anybody. Do you not believe these relationships can be authentic?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 12:05 PM
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I said that their POSITION in the dating market is threatened. Which means that stringing men along for resources and emotional labor and generally being able to get away with bad dating behavior will cease if these men become passportbros
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 04:21 AM
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I think you have an unrealistic view. 95% of women abroad willing to date and marry foreigners are gold-diggers? Really? I'm not saying this doesn't happen but that seems very extreme. I personally know many western men who found women abroad, had families, and are in happy relationships to this day. Also there is no olbigation for these men to drag these women back to their home countries if they are already established living overseas like a lot of digital nomads for example. Yes, there are a …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 03:59 AM
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You made an argument that women hate men and want nothing to do with them and that this is the primary reason for the demographic "nosedive". What I am arguing is that there are a lot of factors for demographic decline but your reason is not a major one. I am not intrested in your hypotheticals because I want to look at the actual reason. And I don't believe it to be what you said. As to your question I believe that men AND women would be upset at this scenario. Yes on average men want sex and r…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 03:53 AM
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This can seem illogical because these below average men dont actually affect a random woman's life. This is a very intresting take. But I do disagree with you on this part. First off, passport bros don't have to be extremely undesirable men. Some are men that are looking for higher quality women that aren't easily available in the west. Also like I pointed out women will use men that they aren't attracted to and have no intention of having relationships with. If a woman has a circle of 5 guys th…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 03:38 AM
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And failed. Some people are just a lost cause. No matter how patient you are. Do men need religious piety, pressure, or obligation to ignite their desire to partner and have sex and breed with women? What you seem to not understand that in the modern world we have these things called contraceptives and sex education. MeN hAvInG dEsIrE tO bReEd wOmEn doesn't result in a baby anymore. We don't live in the stone age. A man can want to have sex with a woman and understand that he has to avoid gettin…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 03:14 AM
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A traditional betabux is a man which settles with a woman past her prime that had previous relationships with more desirable men and overlooked the men like him. The pretty Filipina woman from your example is most likely young and maybe even a virgin. It's closer to Trad dating then betabux IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 03:05 AM
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"Single" for men and women are 2 completely different things. A single man literally has no options while a "single" woman will engage in hookups, go on dates and have flings. They just consider that being single.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 03:01 AM
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I feel like not every passportbro is an incel or a guy who gets no action at all but probably a guy who would have to do a traditional "BetaBux" move in the future and settle for a woman past her prime who didn't want him when he was young.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 02:52 AM
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I'm sorry that you are unable to grasp the concept that I laid out. I really tried to make it simple for you. To answer your question- Actually yes, economic factors did kill my desire to ejaculate inside a woman before because I knew I couldn't afford to have a baby. The image of 18 years of child support made me go soft immedaitely.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 02:49 AM
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Do you think that any man who has more resources than a women and proceeds to date her is now taking advantage of her? It is not a man's fault that women like men with money.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 02:28 AM
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You are so bad faith it's actually admirable. Do you not believe that a religious couple which thinks that using protection is a sin and that it is a gift to bring a child into this world will have a differernt view than an atheist couple? It is literally proven that the groups in the US with the highest fertility are all basically heavy religious like Muslims, Hasidic Jews, Mormons and the Amish. Also in the west people generally want to wait until they are well settled in their career+own a ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 02:26 AM
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That was for the TV personalities which go on air with their opinions (Tucker, Hannity), not in regard to the entire news network.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 02:21 AM
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That was in regard to their TV personalities like Tucker, not the entire network itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 02:15 AM
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"In 2020, Tinder recorded a 7x increase in member's use of the Passport feature, with 16% of all active members engaged with people overseas." Direct quote from the Fox News article. Use Ctrl+F and search it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 02:13 AM
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Blaming the demographic decline on women not liking men is a huge oversimplification. You're ignoring economic factors, decline of religion, etc. Also women still like men and want to breed with them, but only the top 20%. Their behaivior has illustrated this countless of times. I know that women liking men is probably a huge shock to you becuase you hate men but trust me it happens sometimes. Women from these countries actually have a *positive* view of men as a whole. I know- it's shocking. Al…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 02:11 AM
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They cite sources plus an expert. I'm not saying its perfect lol but I feel like you are being pretty harsh comparing this to Infowars. By 16% engaged they are talking about engaging with them as in communicating not proposing. Presumably thats data directly from Tinder. I'm not sure if we are misunderstanding each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 02:04 AM
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From my post "These men offer dates, dinners, and gifts." And quite frankly many women just use these men for validation
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 01:56 AM
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I never claimed anyone is stopping anybody but women will shame you and call you a predator for doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 01:55 AM
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Sorry… I had to do it 🙏
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 01:52 AM
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Like I stated previously, 80% of men are undesirable to women. These men aren't all over 30, out of shape and socially awkward. To make the argument that only the absolute losers in the west struggle with dating is just simply outside of the current reality. What do you mean by "true motives" ??? These men are literally just looking for a GF/Wife. There isn't some sort of a grand conspiracy where these men all go and abuse these women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 01:50 AM
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Just beacuse you don't like it doesn't mean that you can just dismiss it as "entertainment". What I linked is not even an opinion piece from a talking head. It's literally just a normal news article. The 16% of all users statistic IS in the article. And the number of Tinder users is approximately 75 million- https://www.businessofapps.com/data/tinder-statistics/ its an easy google. 16% of 75 million is 12 million
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 01:41 AM
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Fox News is the largest news source in the U.S- them covering this is an indication that it's at least a noticable trend. It literally says that 16% of all active Tinder users engaged with people overseas. Thats approximately 12 million people.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 01:29 AM
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A woman who embodies traditional feminine roles. Cooking, cleaning, taking care of the children. Allows her man to be the primary breadwinner and submits to him. Isn't promiscuous, vulgar and vain.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 01:17 AM
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Mainly dating apps and social media. Back in the day you were only competing with your local neighborhood men but today youre competing with everyone else. Women have a lot more options than 20 years ago and thus are more valuable.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 01:06 AM
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Women only find like 15%-20% of men desirable. If you are outside of that range I feel like you shouldm't be blamed and called pathetic. A majority of men in the west struggle with dating and attracting women. There is no shame in seeking other options rather then forcing yourself to rise to unreasonable strandards.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 01:03 AM
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Traditional women are increasingly rare in the West. And the ones who exist are very sought after and they usually get snapped up fast. I don't believe it's possible today for most men to find one. Also I feel like the women abroad don't necesarrily need to get out of their home country. They are just happy to have a man who is able to provide them with a higher quality lifestyle. If you are an expat and live in one of these countries you do not need to drag these women back to where you came fr…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 01:00 AM
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I think that's a pretty outdated stereotype. Ssomething like 80% of men are undesirable to women. Many of these guys are just normal dudes who got unlucky and a change in environment greatly increases their chances for romantic success. While women don't chase after these guys they certainly do benefit from having them around. Like I stated in my post these men are used for money and favors. With more men passportbro-ing there is less men who will remain suckers in the West.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 12:55 AM
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What part of Europe? What made you prefer them over American women?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 12:50 AM
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A lot of jobs are offering remote positions these days. This will only increase. There are already large Western expat communities in SEA and S. America. Yes, this isn't an option for every single man, but I think you are over-estimating how difficult this is to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 12:49 AM
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I never claimed that these women are lining up to date the men that passportbro but that they certainly get a lot of benefits just from having them in their circle. Many women will simply string along men who they don't plan on ever getting romantic with just because of the benefits that they can extract from them. If these men had other options many women would loose these priviliges.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 12:34 AM
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This article: https://www.foxnews.com/media/passport-bro-growing-number-men-ditching-american-women-overseas states "Since the pandemic broke out, an increase of 50% in connections and conversations has been witnessed across geographical borders, according to OkCupid. Daters were also engaged in 10% more interracial relationships and there was a 15% increase in those who said they would date different religions and cultures. In 2020, Tinder recorded a 7x increase in member's use of the Passport …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 12:22 AM
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I wouldn’t trust anyone who takes stuff on R/menslib seriously
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 09:50 PM
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My post was referring to mainly feminist women who increasingly claim that women do not actually desire rough sex/bdsm at all and that it’s only men who push for these things and force women to give in due to pressure from the patriarchy, etc. My argument is that this is false and that women on average desire rough sex at the same rates or more compared to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 01:10 AM
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Oh, I thought you were saying that I used the word “gaslight” incorrect grammatically in the title. In response to what you wrote- the twoX example was only one example of many that I listed. I said that the post was inspired by content on there but you can find stuff like this in general feminist spaces. Also TwoX is not a r/womenhateroughsex subreddit but a subreddit for general women’s discussion
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 01:02 AM
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“Gaslight” refers to manipulating someone into questioning their own reality and perceptions. The meaning of the title is that women are intentionally making men doubt their own knowledge (studies + personal observations) by repeatedly lying to them about their personal preferences when there is evidence that suggests the opposite. How is it used incorrectly?!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 12:40 AM
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Here you go: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30358432/#:~:text=Using%20all%20modalities%20of%20pornography,pornography%2C%20pictures%2C%20and%20videos. “Using all modalities of pornography, 91.5% of men and 60.2% of women herein reported having consumed pornography in the past month. The three primary modalities of pornography consumed were written pornography, pictures, and videos” And the rough sex stat is from https://fightthenewdrug.org/data-reveals-women-are-searching-hardcore-genres/ “As s…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 09:56 PM
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Also I wasn’t claiming that women watch more porn in total and per capita. No study could convince me of that lol. I was claiming that they are more likely to search for rough stuff then men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 09:53 PM
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Hey, it’s no worries it’s an easy mistake to make. I don’t blame you. Yeah these studies aren’t probably 100% accurate and I understand why people approach them with skepticism. You can probably find a study which states the exact opposite conclusion to the ones I posted. I just wanted to show you that I didn’t pull these numbers out of my ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 09:49 PM
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The quote that I am referring to is in the introduction section of the study: “Current studies estimate that the prevalence of pornography use is relatively high, especially in men (around 60–98%) compared to women (around 30–90%)”
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 09:39 PM
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Very reasonable take
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 09:26 PM
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I get where you are coming from but I think that studying porn use and sexual fantasies are going to be pretty difficult in general. People are embarrassed by this stuff IRL so I doubt that researchers can randomly come up to people and ask “Do you like rough sex?” I’m sure that there are more “scientific” studies out there though. I’m not saying that the study I posted is perfect but it is at least A study. Do you think the findings seem not accurate or unrealistic?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 09:25 PM
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This study states that it’s between 30-90% of women- https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s13178-022-00720-z I think women’s pornography use is harder to quantify due to them liking things such as written smut which might not be primarily classified as pornography and not necessarily video content. To your second paragraph what does it matter that other searches outpace “hardcore”? I’ve never claimed that it’s the MOST popular kink that women have but that it’s pretty widespread and general…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 09:19 PM
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https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/life-style/relationships/62-per-cent-of-women-enjoy-rough-sex-finds-poll/photostory/64856786.cms?picid=64856887 Here is a poll which states that 62% of women enjoy rough sex IRL and not just as a fantasy
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 09:13 PM
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Here are the sources which I got the numbers from https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30358432/#:~:text=Using%20all%20modalities%20of%20pornography,pornography%2C%20pictures%2C%20and%20videos. “Using all modalities of pornography, 91.5% of men and 60.2% of women herein reported having consumed pornography in the past month. The three primary modalities of pornography consumed were written pornography, pictures, and videos” And the rough sex stat is from https://fightthenewdrug.org/data-reveals-women…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 09:05 PM
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The 60% stat is from https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30358432/#:~:text=Using%20all%20modalities%20of%20pornography,pornography%2C%20pictures%2C%20and%20videos. “Using all modalities of pornography, 91.5% of men and 60.2% of women herein reported having consumed pornography in the past month. The three primary modalities of pornography consumed were written pornography, pictures, and videos” And the rough sex stat is from https://fightthenewdrug.org/data-reveals-women-are-searching-hardcore-genre…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 09:04 PM
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The 60% stat is from https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30358432/#:~:text=Using%20all%20modalities%20of%20pornography,pornography%2C%20pictures%2C%20and%20videos. “Using all modalities of pornography, 91.5% of men and 60.2% of women herein reported having consumed pornography in the past month. The three primary modalities of pornography consumed were written pornography, pictures, and videos” And the rough sex stat is from https://fightthenewdrug.org/data-reveals-women-are-searching-hardcore-genre…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 05:18 PM
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A lot of feminist women in online spaces
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 04:30 PM
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Many women have these preferences for real life sex not just fantasy. Like I said at the bottom of my post there seems to be a large group of women which like rough sex acts in their hookups/ relationships. But yes there are definitely abusive men which use kink as an excuse to hurt women, I just don’t think that this is the case for most of these relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 04:22 PM
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I’m not trying to criticize their desires, only that there seems to be a lot of lies and mental gymnastics that they do to convince men that they don’t exist
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 04:15 PM
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I found this post with a quick search- https://np.reddit.com/r/AskFeminists/comments/nxfcs6/is_rough_sex_really_feminist_or_must_it_be_rooted/?rdt=63570 The OP claims that rough sex reinforces misogyny and gives women trauma. She claims that it is a byproduct of a misogynistic culture and wants it to be rooted out completely. I feel like she is implying the sort of thing I’m talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 04:14 PM
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I meant the reactions you had from women when revealing your preferences. Were they positive or negative?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 03:23 PM
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You literally just wrote a list of your personal preferences. As to the other 2 points: regular feminists are increasingly becoming “radical” feminists and pornography preferences at least correlate with what you like in the bedroom. Wouldn’t it be strange that there are millions of women that want super gentle sex but then seek out extremely rough content?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 01:16 PM
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What are the reactions from women that you usually get?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 01:04 PM
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As the sub or Dom?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 12:32 PM
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I am NOT claiming that this is YOUR desire or the desire of EVERY single woman on earth. What I’m saying that plenty of these women exist and people like you completely deny that fact No one is telling you to like rom coms lol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 12:31 PM
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Because that is what they seek out in IRL and in what content they consume.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 12:25 PM
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I mean a large portion of them specifically request this stuff IRL. So there are plenty who do want it done to them
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 12:23 PM
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That’s been my experience too
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 12:22 PM
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I’ve had the same exact experience as you. But listening to women online I would have thought that I am living in a different universe. That’s what inspired me to make this post in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 12:22 PM
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In the west young women now hold more wealth and power than men do. The patriarchy doesn’t exist anymore. It’s a ghost which feminists scapegoat their every failure on. Women aren’t fighting to end slut shaming anymore than men are. I would argue that women are its biggest enforcers.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 05:05 AM
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My point is that there is a large section of women which claim that it’s impossible for women to hold these kinky desires and that they are either being brainwashed by the patriarchy or forced by their partner
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 04:57 AM
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Women also slut shame each other plenty. I don’t place the blame on just the men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 04:48 AM
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IIRC The stepsister stuff is popular mainly because there is a small % of “whales” which seek out that stuff and are willing to pay good money for it, where as most porn watchers only watch the free stuff. They also have the best stars and highest production quality so a lot of people will skip the dumb intro with dialogue and go straight to the action. They are not there because they are into the concept
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 04:44 AM
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I feel like this is a pretty broad interpretation of what I said. I feel like there is a solid connection between what people desire sexually and what kind of content they consume to fulfill this desire. Like I also mentioned women seem to also like rough stuff IRL. Just go to one of the relationship subs and look up “I want him to take charge” or “I want him to be more rough in bed”. You should get a lot of results. All I am saying is that it’s at the very least odd that women claim they hate t…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 04:36 AM
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What I’m arguing is that there is a lot less men forcing this stuff onto women compared to women that desire it and aren’t being honest. There is a widespread denial that women can enjoy any BDSM acts at all and that she’s simply brainwashed by men and the patriarchy
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 04:27 AM
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I think they are connected and people can toe the line between both. There is a lot more women willing to experiment with other women than men willing to experiment with other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 04:11 AM
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It’s hardly a women’s only space. In fact a lot of the posts are aimed at men to finally listen what women are saying. This exact same topic is also discussed on pretty much all social media by feminist women. As to your second question, like I laid out in my post- their media consumption seems to show the complete opposite of what they claim they desire. If they aren’t lying to men they seem to be lying to themselves. Unless the women on TwoX are COMPLETELY unaware of the preferences of most wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 03:58 AM
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You really hit the nail on the head here. This is a really good answer. I really agree on the screen time stuff and monitoring for internet info. The dad becoming a dating coach and reading Rollo to his son isn’t what I was going for. But to be open about the nature of relationships and provide support or advice if wanted. The parental intimacy stuff is also huge. I don’t think growing up in these sterile households where the parents don’t say “I love you” or don’t hug or kiss is a healthy model…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 12:58 PM
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Yes, I think limiting screen time is one of the best things that parents raising children can do today in general. First off this point is mainly referring to kids in middle/high school and not toddlers. I’m also not suggesting the parents literally hovering around their children when they are socializing but to at least be proactive when it seems that their child is struggling. If you notice that your son never gets invited out, doesn’t talk about having friends etc You should try to help him w…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 12:41 PM
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That sounds like something from the Victorian era lol. Did you ever end up catching a handkerchief around?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 12:09 PM
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I don’t know how much straight parents can really help with figuring out gay dynamics but yeah it’s good that they are supportive at least
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 12:07 PM
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Yeah sports ideally would be better but the gym is proven to have positive effects on confidence and of course improves looks. It’s better then sitting in the house on the phone. I agree with your point that general social life during the school years is more important but that also needs to be allowed and encouraged. The most socially stunted person I know was always at home because his mother was scared that he would get hurt playing with his friends outside riding bikes etc. She always wanted…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 12:06 PM
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In this case the man in question wants to have his cake and eat it too. He wants to see other women but also wants his wife/gf to be loyal. Asking for an open relationship gives permission for his wife to also see other people which he probably doesn’t want.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 08:59 PM
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While I agree with this take there are a lot of traits that men hold which women find desirable, but they don’t result in a better society as a whole. For example women find dark triad/ psychopathic traits attractive in men. If these men reproduce it would likely produce more men with Machiavellian tendencies. How is this good for society? Also if women are so good at choosing men to raise a good family then why is the rate of single motherhood so high? Wouldn’t these women pick good men who wou…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 04:40 PM
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Retards and losers breed all the time. Women’s current preferences for men are more suitable for the Neolithic era rather than the modern world. 70% of Harvard students are virgins while criminal thugs, deadbeat fathers and drug dealers are having 4 kids with 4 different women. I always said that if women were mainly attracted to intelligence we would have the cure for cancer already lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 04:23 PM
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At this point the market for men is basically an oligopoly with the top 10% of men having access to most of the women. It’s like telling a broke guy to just “start a business bro” and compete with Google, Apple and Microsoft. It’s definitely not better for the average guy
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 04:13 PM
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Pumping and dumping usually happens when a woman has sex with a men out of her league in the hopes of getting commitment from him. The guy doesn’t want to give it to her and strings her along just enough for easy sex. It has very little to do with “being boring” and more to do with attractiveness. A super hot woman is not going to get pumped and dumped - she can get commitment even if her personality sucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 02:42 PM
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Yeah that whole thing was a shit show tbh. I do think that the online gender wars seem to bring out the worst in a lot of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 04:10 AM
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Like I said depending on who their audience is I don’t think they would be mocked. In certain circles radical feminist theory is basically viewed as common sense truth. Perhaps we just had different life experiences but I’ve had women tell me, a man, things to my face which sounded straight out of an Andrea Dworkin book. You can dismiss it as “crazy online stupid people” but it’s definitely a real phenomenon.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 03:51 AM
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The man vs bear thing wasn’t some niche Reddit opinion. It was a viral trend over all of social media/ the internet. Most women in the comments were shitting on men, calling them dangerous rapist and predators. IRL many women hold these opinions but they just don’t advertise them. I’ve definitely been in majority women spaces where the vitriol toward men as whole is not only applauded but also encouraged. Just because women don’t express these opinions to men’s faces doesn’t mean they don’t talk…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 03:37 AM
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I mean internet opinions are real opinions made by real people. Perhaps back in the day a boomer guy harassing some girl for a date until she said yes was considered not a big deal or cute due to the culture back then. Today it has changed and now he would be called a creep/predator which needs to go to jail. Internet opinions don’t live in a vacuum- they have real life consequences. Yes a normal woman might not mind getting hit on every now and then but you don’t know if you run into a bitter w…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 03:27 AM
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I think it maybe started off that way but at this point modern feminism is basically a female superiority movement that wants a matriarchy and a male hate movement
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 06:01 PM
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I think there is a big difference between staying single by choice and staying single by circumstance. It could be easy for you because you know that if you really wanted a relationship again you could get one. Yes, If these men were able to get into relationships they would start to understand that it’s not all sunshine and rainbows but since they are lonely and desperate they are willing to ignore all the downsides and take anything that they are given.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 03:51 AM
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We are talking about society as a whole not this specific subreddit. The men or women on this subreddit are not representative of the real world. By “young girls” I am referring to men who are in their 30s dating women in their early/ mid 20s. I could have phrased that better lol I know. This is pretty common and when you look at age pairings for relationships and marriage the man is usually older than the women. It is not uncommon to see a 30 year old man marrying a 25 year old woman. Yet These…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 03:47 AM
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Perhaps it does. But we are human after all not a stoic machine which can suppress their emotions perfectly. It’s sort of like getting cut off while driving and giving the guy who cut you off the finger. Will it help? No. Could it lead to a further escalation and potentially make things worse? Yes. But when people get cut off many resolve to this behavior anyways as opposed to just accepting it and moving on. Even if that’s the better decision in the long term 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 03:13 AM
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That’s a good question. First of all the men you see here and on these kinds of forums in general are probably in different stages. Some are still in the rage phase. Some in the denial phase. And some in the depression phase. There isn’t a unified philosophy that all men follow here in regard to finding a solution to their dating issues (Blackpill vs Redpill etc.) I believe that most of the angry ones will eventually mellow out and accept their situation. They are still in the begging of their j…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 02:52 AM
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What is actually said: Landwhales think theyre worth a damn just because hot guys pumps and dumps them! When it comes to men getting pushback for their preferences you are using an extreme example and you know it. Yes, if you read toxic Manosphere comments all the time you will see a lot of phrases like this thrown around but that is a small, often angry and bitter crowd. You can absolutely see lots of examples on social media of women shitting on normal men who date young women, men being shit …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 02:10 AM
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The men which are able to provide an extravagant lifestyle are in high demand. You would have to compete with countless 8s and 9s. Plus it’s not like these men are writing checks to these women, they spend the money on experiences like vacations and dinners etc. Maybe a nice handbag could be worth something when reselling but not enough to build substantial wealth. Also it’s not that easy to just “climb the corporate ladder” and with the current cost of living you probably won’t be investing the…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 07:36 PM
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This idea that women don’t care about looks and it’s all about “a good personality” needs to die already
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 05:59 AM
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I agree but what I’m saying is if you’re unattractive they are still so low that you might as well not bother and save yourself from humiliation
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 12:42 AM
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I think that 20% of women is a pretty large sample regardless. Most women that I know used dating apps at some point. The reason why there is less women is because if they want to find someone and get off the apps it is much easier for them to do then for men to do the same + women are less thirsty overall. Also social media like IG and Snapchat indirectly act as dating apps. The fact that you claim that most women “live offline” is a joke. I would bet that a majority of women ,under 30 at least…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 12:26 AM
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Some would say so. What do you think catcalling is?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 11:31 PM
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Even if there is a hidden motive I wouldn’t say it’s necessarily a negative one. Why is it not allowed for men to express their attraction to women? As for Tinder I think just dismissing it like you did is lazy. How can you blame us for bringing it up during this discussion? Women are always ranting about so called incels, right wingers and Trump supporters and say that would never give them the light of day but then proceed to simp over a hot guy with a swastika tattoo who admits to being a sex…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 11:03 PM
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One example would be women themselves writing articles lamenting the decrease in male attention in public
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 10:38 PM
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Do you consider a man approaching a women and calling her beautiful to be harassment?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 10:30 PM
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Like I said it depends on your definition of catcalling. I agree that a man saying “nice ass” is probably not positive attention but saying “hey beautiful” is different don’t you agree? I don’t believe there is some negative hidden motive here. As to your second point the reason that men say that is that there is a lot of documented cases where attractive men get away with things that ugly men never would. For example the Tinder Hot Nazi experiment
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 10:28 PM
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Then your view is very unique and does not represent the majority of women
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 10:23 PM
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That depends on what your definition of catcalling is. Do you disagree that women like positive attention from attractive men?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 09:59 PM
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Just because a guy and girl share a friend group doesn’t mean that it will translate to any romantic relationship. If you are unattractive at best you are just asking to get friend zoned and cause yourself pain
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 08:37 PM
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The comparison is made to illustrate how little women enjoy being catcalled by unattractive men
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 08:32 PM
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You know it’s bad when the book recs for blue and red pill are grifting “self help” nonsense and black pill are literal scientific papers lol. You can’t argue with the science
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 08:17 PM
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I feel like most Red Pill content is consumed by 30> Men rather then older married guys. I could be wrong though
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 08:12 PM
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