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Marriage struggles. My husband eventually stumbled into the manosphere to “find answers” for himself and what he wanted out of life. He caught the red pill rage and changed a lot, so I searched up a lot of the stuff he was reading and watching to see for myself where things might be coming from. Somehow through all the stumble I found this sub and began to read stories of other women airing out my exact same experiences, issues, and concerns, to the letter. I was shocked, did my research, and co…
/r/RedPillWomen31/12/22 05:20 PM
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Yes. I want to make a post soon about the hairy woman. Women here seem to be viewing men in the lens of their ideal, perfect person, and when he does something “wrong” it’s because he did not act according to how the woman thinks he should act. He should’ve planned that trip, he should’ve bought her that thing, he should have cuddled her all night. He’s being viewed as a hairy woman and she’s disgruntled by his misbehavior. It’s a trap I’ve been seeing a ton on here lately and it is not RPW at i…
/r/RedPillWomen11/12/22 04:24 PM
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Thank for commenting. I read every word you wrote and can relate to much of it. I'm so sorry to hear about your dad and the unexpected ending you had with respect to your relationship with him. In The Queen's Code by Allison Armstrong (highly recommend this book way more than the others linked within this group - will make a post on it eventually), she touches on this as well with a character who did not have a father growing up, at her own mother's insistence. I'm so happy your current relation…
/r/RedPillWomen11/12/22 12:25 AM
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Gotcha. I wish you the best.
/r/RedPillWomen30/11/22 05:39 AM
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I don’t understand why you mentioned my post and how it fits into your overall message, but with kindness and sincerity, I would like to understand.
/r/RedPillWomen30/11/22 05:27 AM
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Wow, and my first one! Thank you so much! Posting about my marriage and personal growth here can be nerve-wracking. I’m always trying to find the perfect balance between truthfulness, accountability, and empathy, so I don’t end up with overly simplistic or self-congratulatory viewpoints that hinder an opportunity to learn. I really appreciate your encouragement. I’ll look to continue to post when it feels valuable and right.
/r/RedPillWomen30/11/22 05:12 AM
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I’m probably just writing my thoughts poorly, but to clarify, I understood what you meant and acknowledge this in the post when I said “I know it’s taboo and ungrateful to get on the internet and dunk on your mom.” I explained why I chose “is” vs “can” and am simply saying that I respect and get people disagreeing with my line of thinking for that choice. And I didn’t get into the Blackness aspect of the post not because I feel they’re separate from RPW, but because they come with a level of com…
/r/RedPillWomen30/11/22 05:02 AM
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Thank you for being open enough to sharing this. Your perspective is really valuable. I’m still breaking this habit myself and assessing the damage done, so your story really hits close as a very fair warning. I’m honestly not sure that I’m at a place in my life where I’m willing to call her out for many reasons I need to continue to work through and unpack before deciding where I land on that. But your regret in not doing so can be heard loud and clear in your comment, and I’m so very sorry tha…
/r/RedPillWomen30/11/22 04:50 AM
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Agree our history is highly relevant to where these things come from, and how far back that line really runs. It simply wasn’t the crux of the post so I chose not to get into it much, only to acknowledge it and provide a little cultural context. Would love to see more Black-oriented conversations here but the popularity of this community already is quite limited and the popular content outside of these more hands-on communities feel quite disingenuous. For your side note, I hear you loud and cle…
/r/RedPillWomen30/11/22 04:46 AM
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Dropping by to say your comment I randomly stumbled upon inspired me to check out the book you recommended. It’s absolutely amazing and easier to connect with than Doyle’s. Thank you SO much.
/r/RedPillWomen28/11/22 07:24 AM
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As a woman, you are fucking spitting in this thread. Thank you. Women literally cringe at men who do things so broski will notice. He will never be able to lead her.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 06:37 PM
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You chose not to read the comment and decided to react to what you wanted to see. He said cares about what others think MORE than they care about what they think of themselves. You wrote a whole dissertation about why caring about what others think about you is a good thing, which was not the point. The second sentence about low status losers carries the original context of the first: a lack of self-confidence and self-awareness, so they can only survive off of external validation.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 06:33 PM
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There is actually a growing movement of single motherhood by choice. I’ve mainly seen women who had their clocks run out by men who were dragging their feet or women who couldn’t find a suitable partner in time go for this. Like women 40+. Those women usually have the money, resources, and community to get the job done. Agree or disagree, it can be a purposeful choice for some.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 09:18 PM
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Asking to understand. Men without a combination of status and genetics can’t get away with whatever, correct? Is this the same for women? I think most people see average women as pretty versatile creatures regardless of status or genetics because some aesthetic choices and body maintenance can give those women access to a huge variety of “aesthetic archetypes.”
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 09:40 PM
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Wonderfully helpful comment. Thanks a ton!
/r/RedPillWomen27/09/22 05:49 PM
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Hear you loud and clear. Much to think about. Appreciate you truly!
/r/RedPillWomen27/09/22 05:49 PM
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This is a fantastic comment. I can’t thank you enough.
/r/RedPillWomen27/09/22 04:19 PM
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Thank you. I should've added it to the original post that he's walked back on our timeline in the past (and it was okay, we were young), but didn't want to play the victim and paint an even more biased narrative that he's a wishy-washy jerk secretly stringing me along. What I'm struggling to understand with the flack I'm getting is when it's acceptable to set a personal boundary, and how it should be done in a way that prevents strife, so I can course correct any damage I've already caused and r…
/r/RedPillWomen27/09/22 02:29 AM
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Wow, what a kind comment. Thank you. I absolutely agree to table this subject and pray about it, seek community with my girlfriends, and focus on being at my best. When he mentions anything about our future children, I respond in kind, but it's not something I bring up or try to fish out of him to feed my own ego and desire for validation. I'm still optimistic he can get there, but respect his journey as his own to travel. As mentioned in another comment as well, I agree with taking charge of my…
/r/RedPillWomen27/09/22 02:05 AM
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How long did he keep pushing it off?
/r/RedPillWomen27/09/22 01:57 AM
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Thanks for taking the time to type all that out. I reply in good faith, not to "argue back." We've had this conversation a ton, and the answer has been pretty consistent over time, so I don't believe he's hiding any deeper feelings about wanting to "enjoy the last of his freedom" and if he is, I think we've reached a point where he'll have to sort it out for himself with people he trusts to sort it out with. He's even suggested starting a baby fund next year, which I personally think is huge. I …
/r/RedPillWomen27/09/22 01:56 AM
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Sure, I'll take your critique! I didn't post here to get a bunch of feel good words. Genuinely appreciate the call out and perspective.
/r/RedPillWomen27/09/22 12:42 AM
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I mentioned in my post to keep moving as normal, so agree with you that STFUing about the subject is for the best. I never had any plans to nag. I see it the same as you: it has to be his decision and desire to want to be a father. It was poor choice of words on my end to state I am working hard to show up for him to essentially get what I want, for sure, so I take that feedback. I should've said "Every day I'm dedicated to my RPW work" and left it at that, as I only wanted to convey that I'm no…
/r/RedPillWomen27/09/22 12:40 AM
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Hi, no need to be sorry. This is an extremely helpful reply. Absolutely agree with you on the why he is not ready. We've indeed had conversations about fertility and energy and the likes. These conversations have not been me stomping my feet asking for kids because I want to be a young, hot mom or anything of that nature lol. It definitely revolves around more concrete subjects. So in summary, try coming from a place of love and support, that is putting his needs and the health of your children …
/r/RedPillWomen27/09/22 12:29 AM
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Thank you for this comment. I might try mentioning "It'll be so cute/nice/fun when you can teach your future kid how to game!" at some point in the future when he's headed to his office to play.
/r/RedPillWomen26/09/22 09:17 PM
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I mean no disrespect, and please feel free to ignore if you're not at all interested in answering, but I'm curious to know what made you hold out for so long? Sometimes the wait is so hard for me I feel like I'm going to burst. Not an excuse to force my way at all, but waiting when ready has been incredibly challenging for me.
/r/RedPillWomen26/09/22 09:15 PM
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This is a really lovely comment. Thank you for sharing your experience with someone similar to my husband. It's genuinely helpful. And agree on getting a picture of one's fertility early on. I'm all good there. Even had a pre-conception appointment with my gyno about a month ago to help fend off personal concerns.
/r/RedPillWomen26/09/22 09:13 PM
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It came up early when we started dating in college. No, we did not establish timelines that early in our relationship.
/r/RedPillWomen26/09/22 09:11 PM
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Thank you for your helpful and kind comment. I'll admit I'm a little naive thinking "We'll take them everywhere, not much will change!" because you're right, it really is a huge shift and just because some couples make it look flexible and easy, doesn't mean it will be the case for us as well. The truth is probably somewhere in the middle for each couple's situation! And your point about approaching 30 is absolutely why I chose end of next year. I'll be 28, close to 29, and will need time to div…
/r/RedPillWomen26/09/22 09:09 PM
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What made you take the detachment route, and how has that affected your relationship with your partner overall?
/r/RedPillWomen26/09/22 09:05 PM
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Thank you, I did not expect support for the way I handled this but am grateful for it for sure! I removed my IUD almost a year ago exactly and track my cycles in detail. I've been on a prenatal since then as well in the event of an oops. We've been successfully avoiding for awhile without the need for HBC. I'm all good there and very ready and prepared! 🥰 We hang out with mostly couples. One of his guy friends in the circle of couples is a dad to an amazing two year old, so he definitely has wit…
/r/RedPillWomen26/09/22 09:04 PM
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I mentioned in the post: We've always agreed on having kids, it was the when, not if. ​ he's not ready to allocate funds from "fun stuff" to kids, and "put fun behind him." But to be extra explicit, yes, he wants a family. He wants children. The issue was he wanted to wait much longer than I've desired to wait, and has been putting them out of mind to focus on having fun and enjoying our time together as just two. I (thankfully) stopped pulling the annoying "Do you even want kids? Do you really …
/r/RedPillWomen26/09/22 08:56 PM
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Thank you, Pearl. I agree. A bit off-topic but HVM isn't really a useful term within the context of evaluating an issue a RP woman might be posting on here for. Making her doubt her partner's worthiness in being her partner never really scratches the itch, and doesn't give her problem-solving skills. What I'd love to see more of on this sub is handling changes in your man that end up affecting the household. People do change over time. Kids change household dynamics. Trying to catch the environm…
/r/RedPillWomen15/09/22 08:43 PM
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You addressed that men are physically stronger. I'm specifically asking about what you mean by cooperation, as in your stone age example, cooperation is both women sitting around salting the meat for preservation, and men working together to hunt. Additionally, what main survival challenges are you referring to that men are better able to deal with? There's no human survival if the offspring die, and ensuring that survival requires a multitude of tasks from both men and women.
/r/RedPillWomen15/09/22 05:10 PM
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Same but didn't want my comment to get flagged as "feminist" or anything like that. Sure, if it's time to hunt buffalo, you're going to grab a bunch of men to do it. But who's staying home keeping the rest of the village running, tending to the kids, processing and storing food? And that work was happening in communal spaces. Still a relatively accurate depiction of how things work at a functional level even today.
/r/RedPillWomen15/09/22 05:00 PM
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I like your comment the most here. Not to be rude to others, but you're actually speaking from experience and I'm seeing a ton of anecdotal evidence assuming about friends of friends and such. My husband and I married relatively young, when I was 24. We put our heads down and both worked hard. We are now pretty far ahead in our careers for most people our ages. I wasn't quite a picture of a "girboss" because family was my #1 priority from the jump and when I found a good man, I was not going to …
/r/RedPillWomen15/09/22 04:31 PM
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Men are physically stronger and better able to cooperate than women. For most survival challenges the Earth presents, men are better able to deal with those challenges. Are you able to elaborate further on what you mean here by cooperation, and what survival challenges the Earth presents?
/r/RedPillWomen15/09/22 04:13 PM
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Again, I'm not understanding. why did it accelerate faster in the Black community than in the other communities? Where are you getting this data from? Looks like the rate of increase, based on my second link, was greater than that of other races, but flatlined from 1990 - 2014, way more than any other race + the average. I won't bore you with a long-winded answer answering all those whys - the second link takes a fair shot at answering all of those imo - but always interesting to me when people …
/r/RedPillWomen15/09/22 04:08 PM
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I suppose what you were getting at with your original comment is time and resources directed at one thing leave less time and fewer resources to direct at something else, correct? Asking because that was one of Thomas Sowell's primary critiques of the civil rights movement, so curious if that's what you're referring to here. To be quite honest, never understood his correlation of rising single parenthood rates with more access to welfare considering it surged massively, globally, and across race…
/r/RedPillWomen14/09/22 01:10 AM
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You can see something similar with Civil Rights movements and the subsequent internal decline of those populations that were ostensibly helped by said movements. What do you mean by this?
/r/RedPillWomen14/09/22 12:03 AM
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