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And part of being a real human is not dismissing them categorically but instead either acknowledging them or indeed dismissing them with some kind of good reason. If you were to say “we need to use hamsters on wheels to power the future” I’d explain that there’s better options like for instance tidal power or something that is basically the same principle but tides and currents are more reliable and more efficient conversion than the will/athleticism of a hamster. Want to do vaccines next? I’ll …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 07:57 PM
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“Why do you care about that and not equally valid issues” Is another negation that I could have added to the list. And I’ll show you how easy it is. “We need to use more revenue from our oil refineries to boost cap ex in our renewables department. After all we are an energy company, not necessarily an oil company” Hope the analogy makes sense. Often people will poopoo one thing in favor of the other for fear of weakening their position. Instead one could counsel a combined or mixed strategy. I t…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 07:36 PM
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Yes this happens whenever someone feels wronged. They want payback, not necessarily an equitable deal or compromise. I disagree with this outlook. I think the world is not a zero sum game. Well, it doesn’t have to be. We could all just decide to make things better. Treat each other more fairly.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 07:30 PM
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This is silly. I find it incredibly easy to just support goodness in general. I am a man but you won’t see me treating women’s issues in this way. “Not my problem, and if it is then it’s not my fault, and if it is then it’s not that big of a deal, and if it is it’s still not my responsibility to fix it because it doesn’t affect me” Get outta town.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 07:23 PM
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Blue pill always worked for me it just never felt like I had any control over my life. Women would meet me and fall in love with me but it felt like I had no agency. Also the women I was with always tended to get bored of my golden boy boyscout routine. I was asked “do you even like me?” a lot and also “how come you never chased me harder?” and “you seem like a robot like you don’t have feelings”
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 06:12 PM
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Well that’s my point. Do we care about making the world a better place? Or just advancing the interests of our gang? The comment seems to indicate that if something doesn’t affect you you shouldn’t care about it. I disagree whole heartedly, I will continue to be an ally for people who don’t look like me and don’t share the same privilege as me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 10:17 PM
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What’s the confusion? I just am comfortable saying it’s not a zero sum game.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 09:29 PM
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So people should stop complaining about power imbalances and just double down on using them to their advantage? How does that help make a better world?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 07:46 PM
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Who gives a shit it’s not against the law. Just say something.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 07:33 PM
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Yeah people go through hard times. What I like to do is be an ally for those who are struggling. I don’t sit around and criticize and do brain backflips about how it’s aHkCtShUaLlY all their fault and they should shut up about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 07:21 PM
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I think you need to find balance. Your mother who meant well and raised you to be a gentleman IS right about a lot of stuff. It just so happens that your sleazy uncle is ALSO right about some stuff. You gotta learn how to apply the lessons from each. Abide too much kindly mother advice and women will probably think you’re boring or they’ll be confused that maybe you’re not interested. Abide too much sleazy uncle advice and you’ll turn into the sleazy uncle. Boring answer I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 03:00 PM
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Eh I’m blessed in a lot of ways and I have never really struggled with sex and romance. I’m not trying to get sympathy for myself I’m trying to facilitate understanding for my bredrens who are not so lucky. Also this post illuminates a salient issue. Modern mental health advice would be to share your feelings, express yourself so you don’t breed feelings of resentment. Yet you have elegantly demonstrated how men are often punished for whining by peers and potential romantic partners. Seems to me…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 02:54 PM
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Here’s the thing, when guys are dirt bags I stop hanging out with them… I’m not blinded by his trust fund and hunky jawline. Same way guys will ignore a lot of red flags for a hot gal.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 02:36 PM
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Eh I guess I’m a “let’s make things more fair for everyone” kinda guy. It just seems adversarial because of the context. You see a guy who has a pretty good point, and immediately come in with the “not my problem” routine. Say a lady said “women should vote” and I loudly proclaimed that “it’s not my fault and not my problem and also I’m bored of hearing about it” Would that seem neutral to you? Or a touch adversarial?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 11:04 PM
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Maybe but I think it’s pretty easy to tell early on. Plus if you meet a good guy there’s a chance he might think you’re not interested if you don’t hook up within the first few dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 09:37 PM
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I disagree I just am not a jealous person. So long as things are fair I’d be down for whatever. Consenting adults and all that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 07:01 PM
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Disagree. I think if you just screen more for quality of character then I’d say there’s no reason not to bone on the first date. Unfortunately people think with the wrong head all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 06:45 PM
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Thats silly. Whatever happened to rising tides? Rather than this adversarial antisocial behavior?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 06:41 PM
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Yes. She was nice and I was an asshole who dragged it out. Should have torn off the bandaid sooner. I felt bad about it though because she was sweet just not intellectually stimulating.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 04:50 PM
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Agree but I still think it’s fair to call people out for not being stronger allies. Imagine being a man during the women’s suffrage movement. “Hey don’t look at me I’m not one of these powerful guys, good luck out there, I’m not going to help and I’m probably gonna make fun of your movement the whole time” That guy would be an idiot. I think we can all agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 04:45 PM
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I think it’s just not fair to judge big groups of people like that. Especially if people recognize there are bad people within their ranks. If someone does that then they are clearly part of a positive solution and not to be lumped in with the psychos.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 06:56 PM
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Yeah if you are a horned up slavering dork because you never let it out then yeah that could hurt your chances. Also if you have prostate cancer that could throw a wrench in your romantic plans. Lastly if you’re with a gal and you don’t please her because you cream your jeans that could hurt your chances for a second date.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 06:45 PM
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Attraction wise I don’t care about age. Hot is hot. Relationship stuff is more age sensitive in my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 06:38 PM
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Disagree but even if it was “natural” I don’t think that’s a good excuse for any antisocial behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 07:20 PM
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Correct and I’m certain there were dominant alpha male types at the time who made the exact same argument about how it’s “only natural” I’m just saying that you would both be wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 07:09 PM
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You said it’s natural that everyone doesn’t find a mate. You said it’s natural selection. Your argument harkens back to a time where might made right. A system that many people, especially blue pillers are critical of. What’s confusing?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 06:57 PM
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My personal gripe that I bring up on here is how women criticize men for not adapting to the current environment, then they clearly pine for that ancient male archetype. So what I do is if a female friend or family member goes in some rant about short guys or broke guys or sensitive guys, or whatever, I make sure to check them and point out the hypocrisy in their philosophy. If you’re not trying to bone some chick then I don’t think it’s that hard to hold her accountable to her ideas in public. …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 06:48 PM
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Of course not but I still disagree with these types of takes. The “natural” endpoint of this hypothetical is just going back to the days of might makes right. I’m a little more hopeful than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 06:32 PM
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Op I think a culture shift is definitely possible that could achieve this. For instance the way we teach kids about certain things. The Robert Redford interview where he talks about winning in sports and “Boy Scout” mentality. We could shift to a more pragmatic approach to communication where it’s not like: virtue signal loudly, then call people naive for believing the beliefs you were just screaming about, then shame people for doing the pragmatic thing that you clearly thought was inevitable a…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 06:26 PM
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Yea but neither are computers. Modern medicine. Nothing could be more natural than being mauled by a tiger. Also very red pilled take for a blue piller.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 06:21 PM
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I disagree with your post but I do like it as an example of how polarization ends up with both sides being wrong. I find ultra feminist women to basically have the same take on contemporary gender issues. “We are just better at this current game, its only natural to have winners and losers” I completely disagree with these “law of the jungle” type takes. Not everything must be so adversarial. I think it would be pretty easy to just decide to orchestrate a proverbial rising tide that lifts all bo…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 06:19 PM
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Brother, I couldn’t follow this. Maybe English isn’t your first language so I shan’t criticize too much but I do not understand this post.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 12:03 AM
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Ma’am. The fact that we agree on the original issue, yet you’re fighting so hard to be contrarian kinda implies that you do have some unhealthy bias against men and their struggles. I didn’t move the goalposts. Anyone who follows this thread can see that I’m the one being civil and you’re being awful defending people’s right… to be shitty? You can’t just say things and pretend that it’s true. lol people can see this whole thread. HTH
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 10:58 PM
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Hmmm I disagree with these “law of the jungle” type takes. Just because something isn’t against the law doesn’t mean it’s not wrong. Your worldview is depressing and negative. In my country I could invite violence upon myself with hateful speech and if someone beats me up they would technically be the only one that broke the law. I’m still perfectly comfortable denouncing the use of hateful speech. I’m going to choose to spread peace, love, and positivity while denouncing awfulness. I guess you …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 10:48 PM
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No rules? Explain. We certainly have social norms and cultural convention. They are fluid thankfully, so we could all just decide to make more positive and altruistic ones but of course there are rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 10:30 PM
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Completely disagree. At least in my experience. All I’m saying is the rules should be the same for everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 10:06 PM
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I think this is the issue. Men don’t get a lot of support when they assert similar prerogatives.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 09:26 PM
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I agree that women can have whatever preferences they like and do not need to dole out sex according to whatever arbitrary cultural rule. I disagree with your post because I think men can be fine with this gap so long as they are allowed the same freedom to have whatever preferences they wish and the ability to withdraw consent at any time they choose. As it is many of us have endured much browbeating about not being shallow, and many of us have been on the receiving end of the truth that “hell …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 09:14 PM
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I think it doesn’t have to be. We could all just decide to be more mature, kinder, and more fair to each other. I dismiss categorically that everything boils down to this adversarial relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 06:18 PM
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Well this is the exact reason you should value quality of character over all else. It instantly solves these problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 06:03 PM
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Even if we take away the rights argument. Let’s just talk about the amount of shame and social stigma gap. It seems socially acceptable to talk shit about men not fulfilling their roles. Even left wing women lament about their guy not fulfilling their masculine role, yet there’s a whole dictionary of psychobabble pseudoscience horsecrap to free women from their responsibility to basically just be a good partner. We could all just decide to be fair to one another. It would be so easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 08:51 PM
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No but you could argue that women were for a long time. In that context I certainly wouldn’t try to disagree with you on that. I believe in peace love and positivity. Not this “if it doesn’t affect me then I don’t care not my problem” type morality you’re rocking, mama.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 08:30 PM
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I 100% did not, bot.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 08:14 PM
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So you’re telling me slavery is wrong but you’re not an abolitionist? That’s crazy for 2025.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 08:12 PM
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Ma’am I’m getting the vibe that you’re a bad faith bot. You’re clearly a part of the problem. As evidenced by the above interaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 08:10 PM
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The fact that you ignored my attempts to find a middle ground and facilitate understanding and then highlighted how your husband “handles his own mental health issues” is proving my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 07:49 PM
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Yes. Asking this as a gotcha question implies an adversarial relationship rather than one of mutual good and progress. I think it is illuminating as to your position.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 07:25 PM
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Ladies often complain about domineering men who condescend. Then ten minutes later they’re on about how much of a turn off it is when a guy puts mental load on them by deferring to them or caring about their ideas and preferences. You might say it’s all about balance but I think that’s kinda a cop out with the sheer number of dudes who struggle with this. Is it men struggling to find the balance? or is it ladies needing to reckon with the title of this post? Probably both but let’s all consider …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 07:23 PM
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I agree that it’s silly. I think unfortunately it’s just an archetype that many people have tremendous bias for. People will talk trash about whatever popular alpha guru, but they never seem to reckon with their own bias towards those archetypes. That’s what’s frustrating to me. People waxing poetic about how so and so is such a misogynistic dirt ball but then you can see them being hypocritical in their preferences
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 07:07 PM
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This is why I criticize women a lot. Because frankly if a left wing lady said all those things they would be like YEAH! STEP YOUR GAME UP LOSERS!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 02:53 PM
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Agree with the premise. I think your choice of example/case study significantly weakens your argument though.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 02:51 PM
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Disagree. I’d say women talk liberal but they act conservative. Ladies push these narratives that guys need to be more liberal and then their preferences in large part stay the same for more conservative archetypical men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 07:04 PM
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I’ve heard this before that it injects a seed of suspicion or something. I think that is poppycock, doohickey nonsense, if you will. If we can train boys to not be cavemen then I think it’s perfectly acceptable to train girls to not desire cavemen. Just my two cents.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 04:51 PM
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What I find is that even women will say crazy shit that if it came out of a guys mouth they would agree sounds crazy. Examples: Asking for permission is weird just go for it. If you see a girl you like walking her dog, get to know her route and intercept her. Something tells me if they heard some guy describe these as strategies they would be appalled.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 04:00 PM
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Hilarious to assume that even the most independent women out there are like…. Refilling their own wiper fluid, taking the trash out etc. Even the most enlightened, modern women I know all get pissed when a guy forgets to take the trash out yet act like if a man cooks dinner and cleans the house and does dishes it’s “bare minimum” Are you enlightened or not? I don’t know shit about cars yet somehow it’s my duty to know if I’m being swindled by a mechanic? I just Google it, any woman could google …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 02:54 PM
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I agree but it’s also shitty to be perceived as gay for like…. Dressing nice… trimming your toenails… having a personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 03:32 PM
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If she’s interesting. I like hot chicks fine but if you’re not intellectually stimulating or our vibes are not aligned then I’d rather spend time with the less conventionally attractive woman with a personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 03:30 PM
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Something deeply unsettling to women when you ask “may I…” “are you comfortable with…” I’ll never understand it. It’s literally the most prosocial thing you could do. Consider another persons comfort and preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 03:28 PM
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But by this logic I should be maximizing my influence and cultivating a stable of women so that I can play them off of each other to see which ones will be happy with the least amount of investment. Do you really think that we should live our love lives according to this market mindset?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 04:03 PM
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You underestimate the level of shame and judgement young men encounter. It’s completely inconsistent what people call appropriate vs inappropriate. If the only valid test is “what works and what does not” then I think we need to evaluate why certain shitty people seem to be so successful in romance….
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 03:57 PM
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Ladies often say they like taller guys because of some semblance of safety. The implication is that a bigger guy could dole out more violence/potentially survive more violence. That is not fantasy. That is the majority of women I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 04:10 PM
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I mean it’s 2025. I thought we were all pretty much agreed that violence is not the answer. Yet the idea of these types of men being sexy is pretty common. Should we forgive all because a person is sexy?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 03:24 PM
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I only mean that like the archetype of hot wealthy domineering guy, not necessarily even the extreme example of all that. It could be Khal Drogo for all I care.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 03:41 PM
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It’s hard though. Personally I took a lot of things to heart that I could have just ignored as bitter women being overly critical of men as a whole. Due to my upbringing I’m inclined to listen to women and believe them. It’s a challenging balance to strike. I think the straw that broke the camels back for me was when I found one of my role models, a woman, was reading fifty shades of grey. I was like wtf?! That is not how you raised me to be a gentleman.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 01:11 PM
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I think we just need to separate certain bad boy traits from bad boys. I think people have been telling boys that in the context of dating confidence=arrogance and leadership=domineering and expressing romantic intent=creepy. I’m here to tell you you can get bad boy results without being a cunt. It’s not arrogance to believe that there’s a chance a woman might actually like you, you will never know without shooting your shot it’s not arrogance until you start being a cunt. Leading the way is not…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 05:54 PM
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