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sigh, and now I have to resort to memes. look, that is just, like, your opinion man.
/r/TheRedPill19/04/13 08:10 PM
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ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh generalizing and universalizing you own opinion. and we're back at square one.
/r/TheRedPill19/04/13 07:20 PM
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Well ok then. (o.o)-b
/r/TheRedPill19/04/13 05:52 PM
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I am talking about malnutrition, my grandma survived the great depression by eating dirt (some of the time anyway) and she is a tiny little person, all of her grandkids are giants so her genes aren't coded for tiny, but her phenotype is. if I visit a crappy part of town the lack of health care will have marked the faces of the people around me (no acne meds, no money for a dentist, no fixing a cleft palate, and that "trailer park look" which I can generally know when I see it but as it's an all …
/r/TheRedPill19/04/13 05:22 PM
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well if you're friend is 18 it could be a problem. also men over 40 don't care about internet dating for a number of reasons. people get divorced after they marry young because, and I believe this, human mating patterns cycle with about how long it takes to conceive and raise the last kid to about age 5. we don't mate for life unless we want to, and not everybody wants too once the Oxytocin wears off. so if you want to be aware of a "biological reality" there's one for you.
/r/TheRedPill19/04/13 04:25 PM
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ok, but I want to know why you think this is important, I could just as easily show you the OKC study where bland but conventionally attractive looking girls get less messages than girls who kind of aggressively brand themselves (as somebody who really is into rodeos for example, or a tattooed rockabilly girl) and if it's just breaks in the "genetic game" (which I dispute, poverty will fuck up your face and your height more than anything in your genetic history.) why is it important?
/r/TheRedPill19/04/13 02:29 PM
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I don't view this as a truth vs lies situation, this is a multiple subjective opinions situation. I have a very good friend who is also fat and she has a really nice fiancee who is completely into her and what she has going on. he could date other people, she could date other people (she has never been single for very long because she's good looking, smart, and really nice) but they don't, they like each other. and there are dudes she has turned down and has every right to turn down. there are p…
/r/TheRedPill19/04/13 02:22 PM
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why is what the majority of males thinks important? why is it important to find objective/quantifiable standards of beauty in the first place?
/r/TheRedPill19/04/13 08:15 AM
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I've seen this. yes they are very pretty, discussion questions for you though: why so you think a porn star and a study of porn stars, is your go-to example of an unquestionable and objective beauty? what made you chose this and what appeals to you about it as a source? what point do you hope to prove to me? and why is it important to you that I understand that point? feel free to answer or not answer, any way you like.
/r/TheRedPill19/04/13 08:04 AM
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ok, so she slept with a slut. not my life I don't have to care.
/r/TheRedPill19/04/13 04:58 AM
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these are the broader cultural narratives, I didn't say they were objectively true, they just exist in the undercurrents of our culture. that human beings are prone to seeing patterns in the form of binary pairs is a part of human nature, (left and right, black and white, night and day, all arguably arbitrary distinctions) what is ascribed to the positive, valued, or good side of those binaries changes with time and from culture to culture. when we put men in the side where we put all the good t…
/r/TheRedPill19/04/13 04:57 AM
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it is completely ok to be bad at things, it's widely considered to be step one to being kinda good at things. when it comes to girls you just have to keep putting yourself out there and you'll learn how to show somebody you care about them without stifling them, through the same trial and error process as the people you date. (remember, if you're young the women in your age group are on the whole just as dumb/just as smart, as you are) it's OK for things not to work immediately, and it is import…
/r/TheRedPill19/04/13 04:50 AM
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she's got a bit of a friend crush sure, but I don't think she intends on sleeping with him.
/r/TheRedPill19/04/13 04:42 AM
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she didn't hook up with him. she just wants to talk about him because she likes and respects him (and has found out recently new cool things about him, such as being musical and speaking three languages) and this is in contrast with how she perceives some of his behavior towards women. she's asking SRS to tell her "hey this guy is ok, and you should accept him for who he is flaws and all" and that seems to be much of what they have to say. they are uninterested in slut shaming him and are mostly…
/r/TheRedPill19/04/13 04:13 AM
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I am having fun agreeing with you on many points. boils down to, if you want to get married, find somebody who will also prioritize marriage and work together with you to keep it strong. I would say I would prefer more egalitarian ideals, but people do have to find the marriage that works for them and that lies in finding the right person and treating them well. OP's rant just shows him to be a person ill suited to marriage and uninterested in the traditional trappings of adulthood.
/r/TheRedPill19/04/13 04:04 AM
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well, what do you really want out of your life? first you are desirous of women, you idolize them and put them on an impossible pedestal and consider yourself not worthy. then you cast them down as unworthy of your attentions and now you want to disregard them entirely. how about a middle path? don't be angry at yourself, don't be angry at "women" considered as a homogenous mass that has all equally rejected you (because this is untrue) disregard your anger. it is not useful to be angry all the …
/r/TheRedPill19/04/13 03:53 AM
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you aren't lonely? I mean, women are half of all the people in the world, that seems like a lot of effort to block people out.
/r/TheRedPill19/04/13 03:39 AM
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honor is a concept common to all patriarchies. it is a conceptualization of your rank within the group and can be earned through honorable behavior, but also smart or quick thinking behavior. it does exist for women as well as men but is more often termed "virtue" when applied to women and refers usually to their sexual continence and proper public behavior. think of a young lady dressed modestly who gets good grades, goes to church, and takes care of old ladies on the weekends. a young woman of…
/r/TheRedPill19/04/13 03:25 AM
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many things in life are replaceable. I have a favorite mug, I could always get a new one, it would hold my hot beverages just as well. but I like the one I've got and it could be pure sentimentality but I'm not replacing it until it fails me and I'm going to look after it until then. perhaps an analogy that would have more teeth is this, I can get a dog, but dogs are inherently replaceable. I can love a dog all it's life long and it's still not going to outlive me. but, I am still not going to b…
/r/TheRedPill19/04/13 03:05 AM
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thank you, I consider myself to be trolling this subreddit, but as it appears to me to me to be a sub filled with jargon and reflexive hate, the best troll to that is clear writing and compassionate reasonableness. not everybody is an extremist, but the loud people tend to be, and I'm sure we could agree on some basic principles.
/r/TheRedPill19/04/13 02:49 AM
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is this subreddit supposed to be nothing but cuckold fetishists?
/r/TheRedPill18/04/13 07:37 PM
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30's 40's somewhere in there. their biological clocks seemed to have gone off, which is funny because there were women they could have picked up who were in their age group, but the choose to strike out on younger girls anyway. if you want to be the "cool older guy" then you need to give the impression of being in the class because you find it interesting and you respect the professor. don't be That Guy who has to interrupt everything and be in the middle of every discussion, loudly being Right …
/r/TheRedPill18/04/13 06:59 PM
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well, men are more inclined, in my experience, to struggle with subjectivity. you have a good example right here: Those 3 traits are universally considered attractive. I read this as meaning that you find these traits to be attractive. which is fine. but you've generalized your own opinion and by doing that you've failed to realize that you are being subjective. I could find men anywhere who each like different things: curvy girls, MILFs, dark hair, amputees, tattoos, dark skin, slightly crooked…
/r/TheRedPill18/04/13 05:57 PM
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beauty myth: the idea that women exist to be beautiful to men and have no possible higher function as people with something productive to bring to society. goes along with the myth that women don't value men for their physical attractiveness, but only for their social or monetary worth. which at it's core is the idea that adult men are people and nothing else really is. not children, not "betas", not gay men, not women, not animals or objects. and as the only "real people", men do the looking an…
/r/TheRedPill18/04/13 05:46 PM
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if she's not his ex the "don't date exes" rule does not apply. he can't say dibs on every girl on earth just because he doesn't have the guts to actually date some of them. you like her, she likes you. go for it. (incidentally, like any place on the internet, you should take the viewpoints you see here with a grain of salt.)
/r/TheRedPill18/04/13 05:35 PM
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I've meet/seen guys trying to do this while I was in college. I would not have considered them successful, but "returning students" as they are called aren't exactly a hot commodity. consider the young guys you'll be competing with who won't come off as being in class just to perv on girls. (unlike you) I'm not saying don't take a class, they're a good way to find people with similar interests and to learn things, but it's a lot of money to spend if you're considering it solely as a dating servi…
/r/TheRedPill18/04/13 05:26 PM
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if you want a partner and a family with this girl then you should try and stick it out. women aren't interchangeable, even considering that it is totally possible for you to find somebody else, it's ok to not want to. fidelity and honor is a virtue for both men and women, she's stuck by you through your time in grad school (which is stressful and probably put a lot of demands on your time) why not do your best to prove to her you value her just as much. especially if you think she's the kind of …
/r/TheRedPill18/04/13 05:21 PM
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I feel like over time it is not unreasonable to be mainly attracted to people of your own age group. when I was in highschool I thought highschoolers were hot, now they look like children. no appeal whatsoever. "old people" still look old and unappealing to me, but I've developed a taste for the chest hair and more filled-out physiques of the men in my age group, where I used to like the hairless scrawny look they used to have. I expect I will be attracted to grizzled old guys when that becomes …
/r/TheRedPill18/04/13 02:56 PM
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I'm going to assume you are trolling. my bad for trying to talk to people on the internet.
/r/seduction20/08/12 02:23 PM
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Cis-Gendered: opposite of trans-gendered Stright: heterosexual, attracted to the opposite gender Woman: Lady, person with two X chromosomes who presents as female. Presenting: what gender you act.
/r/seduction19/08/12 03:16 PM
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cis-gendered means that I'm not trans. but thanks for the note I'll fix my self pluralization.
/r/seduction18/08/12 09:45 PM
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so, I'm a cis-gendered straight woman, (not the prettiest, but whatever) who has what my friends have described as a "leering problem" in that I have a tendency to have to to a head-snap when cute guys cross my path and I have wide ranging and diverse taste in what constitutes a cute guy. so, you're saying in my I'm part of the solution?
/r/seduction18/08/12 04:34 PM
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my position is creative expression needs to always include sexuality I argue that sexuality has a time and a place in media and in art, and that having it everywhere gives the important moments less impact.
/r/MensRights27/02/12 08:47 AM
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ok, what I have a problem with is this idea that there should be a dichotomy of insiders and outsiders and only insiders should be catered to. also going after one source of income, one market, has caused the comics industry to be come as overspecialized as the cheetah. they only cater to their insiders and then their insiders are the only people who buy, and then the cycle continues year after year there are less insiders spending less money on comics with now little to no mass appeal to anyone…
/r/MensRights27/02/12 08:43 AM
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I don't want censoship over what other people read I just want fair representation in popular media for people other than 18-25 yr old white middle class men. there is more to the world and in that world than that target demographic. also, just as media and artists can make what they want to make, I can complain that I would like it better if it was done differently. Because this is America. I do buy the comics that I like, I just wish there were more like them, so telling the world what I would…
/r/MensRights27/02/12 08:36 AM
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so, if it's popular with women because it sexualizes and objectifies men, and this is why men are uncomfortable with it, because they are portrayed so damn badly why don't you see that this is why women don't like being purely objects of male desire in nerdy media? it would be better if in all storytelling media everyone was shown to be a real person and not a flat stereotype made with mass appeal in mind.
/r/MensRights27/02/12 08:30 AM
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a greater wealth of influences alright, I will agree with that, I don't want to eliminate all sexy cheesecake in my nerdity, I do want many different kinds of sexy cheesecake. but again, I feel like a lot of the time general nerdity has an amplified level of sexuality that is just unnecessary, sexy comics are well and good but not all comics have to be sexy comics to be appealing. and it's when all nerdity has a prohibitively high level of sexyness (and I'm back again to the spicy analogy) that'…
/r/MensRights27/02/12 02:03 AM
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fair enough, I want to see the movie too. but it was interesting to point out the gender difference on the poster, and remember the people talking about it are just as excited about the movie as anybody.
/r/MensRights27/02/12 01:23 AM
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it's ok, I understand that you like what you like. but I dunno, (analogy time) I like really spicy food, but the more I eat it the less I can taste it. I'm stuck chasing after ever increasing levels of capsicum if I want to feel my mouth to be really ever completely on fire. So, I hold off on drenching all the food in my life in hot sauce so that when I really want to feel that burn, I can. if the whole comic book is nothing but traced stills from porn and the whole movie is nothing but sexy che…
/r/MensRights27/02/12 01:21 AM
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So, you'd like to see a greater diversity of sexuality and bodies portrayed in media and less of mass media telling you what you should find attractive? usually the argument for why all women in these kind of things look the same is that the male gaze has been so homogenized that only a very particular and unusual type of woman could appeal to men. showing only that body type is considered "good for business" and the market is afraid to venture towards anything else. considering you don't want t…
/r/MensRights27/02/12 01:12 AM
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we're only talking about the presentation of women in nerdy media because that's the topic at hand, if you want to argue for a greater diversity of body types shown in video games, more races of people portrayed as people and not stereotypes, or any other kind of way for more kinds people to be shown in popular media I'm behind that too.
/r/MensRights27/02/12 12:59 AM
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just because something is a fun poppy frivolous thing doesn't mean it's immune from serious discussion, frankly I always find that it makes something more enjoyable to look at it from a critical and a sociological eye.
/r/MensRights27/02/12 12:47 AM
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variance of tone is what makes a good story, the same way variance of volume makes a symphony that much more appealing, crank the volume up to eleven on every element of anything really, and it begins to lose cohesion. Again you are oversimplifying things, really that is a bad habit you need to stop, kind of funny for you to say this, considering we weren't talking about movie posters or comic books until you brought them up. the point of that article, if you care to read it for the words and no…
/r/MensRights27/02/12 12:43 AM
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fair enough, but, changes in nerd-ery for the better towards broader cultural acceptance and understanding, are just going to make for better, more complicated, more interesting things getting made by more people. I assume all different sorts of people can feel marginalized by the presentation (or lack there of) of them in popular media, heck, there's a little shitstorm going on in r/mylittlepony by people with eye conditions who felt more included and seen as normal because of Derpy Hooves's cr…
/r/MensRights27/02/12 12:34 AM
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Personally I usually hate feeling pandered to. isn't that a bit of a turn off? feeling that an industry has decided everything you want and how they are going to present it to you? I dunno it's the difference between being told that I should be enjoying something because it has been decided that this is a thing made to be enjoyed by people like me and simply enjoying a thing because it was made well and with care. a pretty girl character doesn't have to be impossibly posed and unrealistically dr…
/r/MensRights27/02/12 12:17 AM
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No problem, and I hate to admit this here but I'm speaking as a woman who feels alienated by the overt emphasis of the male gaze in comicbooks and videogames. I quite enjoy both things as a medium of storytelling and I would totes be even more into them if the women I was looking at reflected my ideas of a power fantasy. I linked this article and this comic elsewhere in the thread but I feel David Willis hits the nail on the head.
/r/MensRights27/02/12 12:09 AM
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it's not, but neither is Edward Cullen's abdominal muscles the primary point of Twilight. the question is can we de-emphasize the sexuality of a character and keep them still appealing to their core audience and at the same time broaden their appeal so that women and girls who enjoy comic books can feel that the power fantasy being presented is something that they can identify with? I think it can. it just comes down to treating the character like a person with a story to tell rather than just a…
/r/MensRights27/02/12 12:02 AM
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twilight would be more popular if it didn't alienate men, but for twilight not to alienate men (or women who enjoy actual books) it would have well written interesting characters a thoughtful and provoking plot and just in general would have to a drastically better book all'round. I don't think the basic love story of "girl must choose between two dudes" story line has anything in particular about it that precludes male enjoyment and I don't think twilight would be imperiled by better writing be…
/r/MensRights26/02/12 11:52 PM
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I feel like they alienate women and then say that if they didn't do the things that alienate women they feel they would lose their old demographic. I don't think this is true. men and women both enjoy good stories and the cheesecake factor should not be the primary point of comicbooks/videogames/any other kid of nerdery anyway. I think David Willis put it best in this comic about Starfire's recent sexy redesign and I thought this article on comics alliance also summed up some of the same problem…
/r/MensRights26/02/12 10:54 PM
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they'd have even more readers/buyers if they didn't alienate women. that's the most capitalist reason it should be changed.
/r/MensRights26/02/12 07:53 PM
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campsite rule applies. leave her better and more well adjusted and more knowledgeable than you found her.
/r/seduction27/12/10 02:24 AM
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it's good to know how the other half thinks and i think it's reasonable to occasionally chime in with advice. usually it is to the effect of "women are not a homogeneous group, what one likes another may not, that said, I like it when herp derp"
/r/seduction26/12/10 06:34 AM
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my apologies for making the all too common mistake of assuming I was talking to a guy on the internet. yes feminism and masculinisim benefit everybody when they get some real equality. although I'm pretty sure women are still not allowed on US submarines, I remember making fun of my cousin in the sub core about this. no wait I'm wrong, but this is pretty recient
/r/MensRights02/11/10 08:18 AM
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Let me put in song First World Problems
/r/MensRights01/11/10 02:36 AM
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I was kind of trying to make an example of me checking my gender privilege while showing why I used a gender neutral example in the first place. and yes, in an ideal world the men's rights people and the women's rights people could get together and talk about human rights.
/r/MensRights30/10/10 06:57 PM
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I was trying for an example that was not too loaded or offensive as I was checking my privilege as a woman and a feminist posting in the men's rights subreddit and I was worried that a gender-privilege example would be paid attention to for the wrong reasons.
/r/MensRights30/10/10 06:14 PM
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but that's what feminism is, is a feminist who just wants gender equality
/r/MensRights30/10/10 06:02 PM
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join us over in r/TwoXChromosomes
/r/MensRights30/10/10 06:00 PM
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I know it's a bit confusing, I just like it because the language has never accepted an outside imposition of a genderless pronoun yet people have produced/appropriated gender neutral words all on our own. out here on the west coast people also use "guys" or "dudes" as words for addressing a group as well.
/r/MensRights30/10/10 05:58 PM
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you're welcome. I'm just trying to be a helpful feminist and use all my cultural anthropology knowledge for good.
/r/MensRights30/10/10 05:53 PM
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I'm being serious, you guys deserve a real answer.
/r/MensRights30/10/10 05:48 PM
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women do tell one another to man up. I have heard it, I have said it. I think of it as meaning "go be mature and responsible, be bold, face up to your challenges, square your shoulders, be brave, and defeat them" recent example: me to roommate "I have done what I can, time to man up and buy a damn plunger"
/r/MensRights30/10/10 09:51 AM
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the problem is men are oppressed by other men more often than by women. and it's partly because, yes, you are ontop of the hierarchy. I know, it sounds weird, but when you are on top you have less freedom to do what you want then the people on the bottom do (think the restrictions and the scrutiny put on the actions of a king and a peasant) because of the expectations of saving face and holding up the status of yourself and others in your group. people on the bottom have no status to lose. diffe…
/r/MensRights30/10/10 09:45 AM
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cough also really? if you said pointing out how she is trying to achieve higher status in the group by trying to attack you as an outsider to me in response to an offcolor joke made between me and my female friends in-front of you, I don't think it would have the effect of shattering group unity, quite the opposite.
/r/MensRights30/10/10 09:28 AM
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oddly enough women do tell other women to "man up" on appropriate occasions. (usually these situations involve hotsauce or feats of strength)
/r/MensRights30/10/10 09:23 AM
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it is a little annoying that the default state of a person in our language should be male. I thought that the english pronoun for a gender unknow or gender neutural person is the same as the plural. examples: "someone left their jacket on the bus" "Jessica decided she liked this genderfuck person and now she is dating them"
/r/MensRights30/10/10 09:16 AM
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it means to examine where you are coming from and why your opinions might be hurtful to others even if they are unintentionally so and really that they are more hurtful because of being unintentional. that's about it, example: if I whine about not being able to find the right jacket in exactly the right color, I should check my privilege and remember that this is a strictly first world problem and that I am lucky to be able to afford jackets let alone to get picky about them.
/r/MensRights30/10/10 09:11 AM
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I'm a woman and I think this show looks awesome.
/r/MensRights27/10/10 07:49 AM
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Oh god me too, so glad I am not alone in this. I hate touching other people I don't know, and I hate being randomly touched. I particularly hate having people touch me on the shoulder. it makes me wince, found up like a turtle and make the "I will not punch you in the face" expression and then hate them forever if they don't stop doing it. which is no good when they are just trying to be friendly. most of my friends know not to do it, but some random person I just met isn't going to know that th…
/r/seduction16/09/10 09:30 PM
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because the other girl is not trying to get into the aforementioned pants. and has no assumed ulterior motives. duh.
/r/MensRights11/08/10 11:56 AM
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I've found the best way to solve the feeling of disempowment caused by men hollering at me and my friends from cars, is to drive a car full of women and holler at the men we see.
/r/MensRights05/08/10 05:41 AM
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