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Do you have a firm grasp on what blue pill behavior is? If so, then no. It's not worth reading. "As a man thinketh in his heart so is he". Think about what you want to be.
/r/askTRP20/03/14 06:01 PM
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We have fun together but we're not dating and I don't want to be. I have no reason to tell her what not to do That would have been an excellent reply. As far as if it is a test. Well, I always assume that if a woman is taking to me, she's testing me. Makes things much easier.
/r/TheRedPill11/03/14 02:30 PM
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Or perhaps the key is turning off your emotions or at least tamping them down? Can you learn not to give a shit? How does that even work? I prefer going somewhere I can be alone for 30 to 60 minutes. Someplace quite and peaceful. Then I sit perfectly still and try my best to think of absolutely nothing. I can't really completely quiet my mind but I try not to actively think. Then I let whatever thoughts ebb and flow. I can come up with some interesting thoughts this way and after practice it's e…
/r/TheRedPill11/03/14 04:38 AM
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Others have provided some good examples. The ones I had to bite my lip on were "What are you doing?" or "Why are you doing that?". Those types of questions could be asked in a tone that conveys that you are generally curious. They can also be asked in a tone that conveys that you think the other person is crazy.
/r/RedPillWomen10/03/14 08:59 PM
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Tone of voice not matching what you are saying.
/r/RedPillWomen10/03/14 03:34 PM
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For women it's just the biggest bang for your buck when it comes to validation. Take off your clothes & post pictures, it doesn't get any easier. Then sit back and soak up the incoming flood of validation.
/r/TheRedPill07/03/14 05:16 AM
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I don't know. I came from a very small town where hunting, fishing & driving in the mud were the top 3 forms of entertainment. The cowboy or country boy was the most common stereotype. I however was more like a hippy computer nerd that had been bitten by a vampire. The shit tests were very uncommon from the country girls I went after. Most would just say ”you're weird ” to which I would say "thanks". It was very easy to progress to sex without resistance. Years later when I wanted to meet my equ…
/r/TheRedPill17/02/14 10:05 PM
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Reminds me of a warning from No More Mr Nice Guy which says something like "The relationship will get better or it will be sent to a long overdue grave". Sounds like you have made peace with that. Good for you. Hang in there.
/r/TheRedPill17/02/14 08:07 PM
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Personally, I think it's better to be genuine and let the chips fall where they may. However the typical way I respond to shit tests at work is get an animated angry look on my face, open my mouth, take a deep breath, point and generally convey I'm about to give you a piece of my mind. Then I pause like that for several seconds. Then pretend like I just thought of the funniest thing, turn and walk away in silence. It keeps them guessing but says several subtle things at the same time.
/r/TheRedPill17/02/14 03:30 PM
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I can't recommend it enough. It even addresses one of OPs points. That the opposite of a nice guy is a cocky asshole. Which is simply not true. Nice guys give to get, they put others before themselves, they mold themselves into what they think others want them to be. All of which is the surest way you will never get what you want. Being red pill isn't about being an asshole. It's about taking responsibility for what you want in life and taking steps to get that no matter what it is. Some may say…
/r/TheRedPill12/12/13 07:42 PM
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Sure it's for validation, but that's not the main reason. It's because of the amount of validation they receive for the effort they put into it. For a woman, there is nothing that will yield a higher return to investment ratio.
/r/TheRedPill09/12/13 09:32 PM
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By turning the conversation sexual as soon as your fairly sure she's attracted. Look up escalation ladder. If you keep doing what you've always done, you'll keep getting what you've always got.
/r/TheRedPill05/12/13 02:24 AM
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That's the funny thing about men and women. To a man a woman who is hot is always hot. Sure it will change a little depending on whether she just woke up or is dressed for success, but not too much. To a woman whether or not you are hot depends on a laundry list of conditions that are in constant flux. When I see a hot woman I like to think that, right now, I'm exactly what she's looking for.
/r/askTRP03/12/13 02:30 PM
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I've read No More Mr Nice Guy several times lately. This sort of thing is something that is covered. You give while you expect to get something in return and if the other person does not live up to this covert contract you've made then it breeds resentment. This woman gets it. It is about giving out of abundance. Giving without expecting anything in return.
/r/TheRedPill01/12/13 02:26 PM
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And there it is. Women are not better than men. Men are not better than women. However, we are not equal either. We are an impossible formula that are made to work together. That formula will never work without that balance.
/r/TheRedPill30/11/13 10:09 PM
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Yeah, I got laid quite a bit. However, I didn't understand why I did or why it would eventually devolve into an unpleasant relationship. I used to think that I knew how to make a woman fall in love with me but kept making bad choices in women. The truth is that I was a nice guy who was smart and successful but still had a bit of a crazy streak. I attracted women because I was different than most men. I attracted crazy women without even trying. What TRP taught me was that I wasn't crazy. That be…
/r/TheRedPill27/11/13 02:55 PM
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Any girl that will give you a shit test about showing up for a date is either not that attracted to you and wants to keep her options open or is a drama queen looking for validation. So I ask them straight up if they are going to flake. If they say "Oh no, I'll definitely be there" then, that's great. Anything less than that simply won't work for me and I tell them that I won't accept it and it would be better if we didn't go out. Using that, I have had to walk away from a date, but I have never…
/r/TheRedPill22/11/13 03:09 PM
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I like to give them one text to make them briefly think I failed the test. Something like "on a scale of 1 to 10 how likely will you be available". Anything less than a 10 gets "that won't work for me, I'll be going with someone else, so never mind". Don't reply until she says she will definitely be there.
/r/TheRedPill21/11/13 05:03 PM
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Talk to men you feel you can trust not to judge you. Not about red pill, since some aren't ready to hear it. Just about what's aggravating you. Just don't bottle it up because then it's likely to explode at the worst time. Offer them a 6 pack, cup of coffee, lunch, etc. if they'd just listen to you vent. Works wonders.
/r/askTRP20/11/13 10:19 PM
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Read No More Mr Nice Guy. While it does focus primarily on heterosexual couples, it does give examples of a homosexual male that is definitely blue pill. He had just as many problems with his relationships.
/r/TheRedPill20/11/13 01:01 AM
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But remember, one is fixable/changeable Absolutely, but try telling that to the hamster. You know it lives in the here and now.
/r/TheRedPill12/11/13 10:42 PM
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Yes, but that's much more gradual. How many hot women do you know that were kick to the curb because they lost their job? How many men?
/r/TheRedPill12/11/13 04:15 PM
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I think this is because a man's SMV can change suddenly and drastically through no fault of his own. I've personally seen one example of it. I was dating a college student her senior year who was a part of a close knit group of 8 friends. I had my own place, a new truck & a good job. None of her other friends had a man in their life with any of these things, much less all 3. Then she graduated from college and all of her friends moved. Her only group of piers she would regularly see was from chu…
/r/TheRedPill12/11/13 03:37 PM
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This shit starts really early. I have a 5 year old niece. I ask her a simple question with a yes or no response and if she knows I won't like the answer I get a lengthy story of the extenuating circumstances that caused her to do or not do what I wanted.
/r/TheRedPill11/11/13 01:34 AM
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Then you are not ready yet.
/r/TheRedPill10/11/13 10:50 PM
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The closest thing to a cop-out reply I ever give is "Oh, okay...I see". If they want to know what that means, I don't say anything. If you feel it is to your advantage to come up with a cop-out the less said the better. Let them draw their own conclusions. If you talk to much it's usually never to your advantage.
/r/TheRedPill10/11/13 05:07 PM
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Yes, but an important aspect of it is being left out. The severity of the personality traits. You can have all the traits at one time or another but if they don't impact your life in a negative way then you do not have a disorder. Only when a group of traits start causing problems for you and others. Cluster B disorders are typically the erratic, dramatic & emotional ones. All women can be like that, but not all have a definite disorder. The truly insidious ones come as close to the line as poss…
/r/TheRedPill10/11/13 04:07 PM
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Frank Pittman was one of the first people to categorize types of affairs and pin many on men’s fear of true intimacy with their wives. I had no fear of true intimacy with a woman. Hell, I was taught that once I found the right one it was to be expected. Years ago I thought I did. She was 25, athletic, crazy about me, and Christian. I felt like I could tell her anything. I thought she would be a wonderful wife. She was cheating on me with her 50 year old boss until his wife caught them together. …
/r/TheRedPill05/11/13 10:00 PM
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I think you're right. However, personal experience suggests that some women are addicted to the praise more than the feeling of accomplishment or joy of learning. I've personally seen a friends wife enthusiastically give her time to cook & clean for a charitable organization while never doing it at home. My friend does praise her, but she gets several times the amount doing it for charity. GW is just the lowest common denomitor for praise for women. "What's the least I can do to get praise? Take…
/r/TheRedPill26/10/13 01:10 PM
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TLDR: Ovulation hormones = hamster nitrous
/r/TheRedPill25/10/13 03:20 PM
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The relationship that was probably the most emotionally supportive in the beginning took the same turn as all the others. I had days prior confided in her what was, at the time, the thing I regretted the most in my life. A missed opportunity I should have taken. A few days later at the birthday party her and her friends threw for me, she joked about it in front of everyone right after I blew out my candles. Women want to know your innermost hopes and dreams while being intimate. But throw them i…
/r/TheRedPill21/10/13 04:08 PM
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I've always used this with women I know are in relationships. I ask the question and stare at them until they ask "What's the secret?". I say "Whatever happens next" and go in for the kiss.
/r/TheRedPill15/10/13 10:00 PM
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Some red flags are easy to look over or blame on the situation. They may be subtle. It's also easy to dismiss them when you put your foot down and they are recanted. All are an indication of future behavior that will continue to grow in severity if allowed and will manifest fully when a certain threshold is crossed. Usually when you are so deeply committed that the woman knows that it will be very difficult for you to walk away.
/r/TheRedPill11/10/13 06:46 PM
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No need to pretend it's real. Just improve your acting skills. It's a lot easier to play the game when you see how everyone else is cheating.
/r/TheRedPill11/10/13 03:49 PM
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A man that places importance on validation from a woman will be subject to the emotional volatility of said woman. I.E. If mama's not happy, nobody is happy.
/r/TheRedPill11/10/13 02:24 PM
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Well, I can chime in on the petty tasks. I've seen it before in one LTR. Could you change the light bulb in the closet since your taller, could you go get the mail since you already have your shoes on, could you turn off the lights since your closer to the switch, etc? I had a to do list on the wall. If it was some sort of task like the light bulb, I'd tell her to put it on the list and I'd get to it sooner or later. Since it was on the list there was no need to remind me. If I was reminded, I w…
/r/askTRP07/10/13 05:08 AM
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The personal red flag that is at the top of my list is the women that won't listen to you or believe you when you honestly tell them something. Especially if it is over something simple or trivial. To me this suggests that they have already formed the option that men can't be trusted. Also if they want to argue over minor things even after they state that the decision doesn't matter to them either way. The best example of this was going to a picnic lunch and I was picking up a case of water. She…
/r/TheRedPill03/10/13 03:39 PM
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women, in general, really don't want to talk about the things I am interested in or ponder the bigger questions in life. That's what your guys are for. Let me back up. That's what you debate and argue about with your guy friends. With women it's not so much that you talk about it. Just that it's not a debate. You are not trying to win her over to your way of thinking or ponder over things because you don't care if she believes something different. Even if she believes something different you can…
/r/askTRP25/09/13 03:10 PM
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I could see myself being a stay at home dad. I could also see myself using the driveway for free yoga classes for all the neighborhood stay at home moms. My wife might be rich and successful but she'll know I'll be surrounded by women in spandex while she's gone.
/r/TheRedPill24/09/13 02:35 PM
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Also something not pointed out here is that women have a strange fascination with anniversaries. I find it interesting that it was almost exactly a year. I had a close friend whose ex-girlfriend would just show up every anniversary of the day they started dating and be very flirty & friendly. Something about it being a year since something happened makes some people spend a lot of time thinking about it.
/r/askTRP23/09/13 07:17 PM
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The most aggravated I have ever been was with a SO that would use tone as a shit test. I would be busy doing something she didn't want me to do at the time and she'd ask "What are you doing?". However it was in the manner that you might ask the same question to a friend that had just lit a joint in a police station. Any kind of reaction to this would have her take the defensive position. "Jeez, what's wrong with you, I just wanted to know what you were doing. You don't have to bite my head off."
/r/RedPillWomen23/09/13 06:45 PM
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As a man the simplest, most common, day to day thing that has the potential to aggravate is tone of voice. It seems to undermine a lot of conversations when the words say one thing but the tone says something completely different. Plus there is no point in reacting to the tone because there is plausible deniability.
/r/RedPillWomen23/09/13 01:27 PM
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She was a solid 7 and a couple of years younger. Once I saw that she wasn't a loon and doing that to everyone we fooled around a bit. But not before I asked everyone that knew her to make sure she was okay mentally.
/r/askTRP23/09/13 04:00 AM
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Some may come off as odd or obviously drunk/high. One instance sticks out as creepy. In college, passing by a classroom before it started a woman comes out the door shouting "Hey!!!" I turn to her and she hugs me and asks how am I doing. I'm thinking of someone from my youth I don't recognize or friends sister long forgotten. Then she hits me with "What's your name?".
/r/askTRP23/09/13 03:38 AM
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It wasn't bitter for me because I had went through the bitter stage years ago. At first I thought I kept getting into abusive relationships or that they had some personality disorder. Then I thought I was the problem and worked on being the best I could be. Then I did the casual thing with as many plates as I could. That was the most fun since they all knew I had several directions I could go with my life and that I didn't want a relationship. They were open, honest and nice. They would tell me …
/r/TheRedPill23/09/13 01:04 AM
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While I agree about the spoiled comment being a potential red flag, I'm not sure about the picture. Photography is a hobby of mine and I know some pictures have the ability to rise way above the way someone thinks they look. If it is always that same picture don't worry about it, but if she cycles through pictures of herself then yeah I'd say it's a red flag.
/r/askTRP21/09/13 09:58 PM
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No idea what you could do but I can offer some advice as to how. Inform her that you are making plans for a certain time and tell her what to wear that is appropriate. That's it. No other information. Then go celebrate. Maybe have a couple of things to do. Don't let her know what is going to happen next. Tell her when it is time to go and then go to the next event. The whole experience will be a mystery that you alone control.
/r/askTRP21/09/13 09:47 PM
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Only the women with very high SMV will launch these types of attacks overtly from the start. Well, to be honest, ones with low SMV do as well but they also wonder why they can't keep a man. Both of these are easy to spot and guard against. However, the most sinister of these is the subtle attack. Be on guard for these because if you fail to keep your frame they will continue and escalate. They are usually in the form of concern for you or for something not being fair or making sense. All are mea…
/r/TheRedPill21/09/13 06:11 PM
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When it comes to BPD I personally feel it's a case of runaway hamster. Women in general are capable of the same behavior, just a milder form of it.
/r/TheRedPill21/09/13 04:03 AM
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It's possible there is some sort of mild personality disorder but it will be up to her to decide to act on taking care of it. You just need to be consistent with not tolerating the bad behavior. The next time she mentions about not being able to help it, calmly tell her that doesn't sound normal or healthy. Tell her to make an appointment with the family doctor to talk about it. They may not be the ones to help her, but it's a good place to start.
/r/TheRedPill20/09/13 09:32 PM
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I've been there before. It's frustrating and doesn't make sense. You begin to think that if you could say the right words she would understand, but that's not true. A man who argues uses logic and facts. A woman who argues uses just enough facts to be believable coupled with emotions & hamstering. You will never be able to come out of it ahead unless you put your foot down and hold your frame. Calmly state that you know what needs to be done but her attitude is unacceptable and needs to stop now…
/r/TheRedPill20/09/13 09:01 PM
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I had a great mentor when I was in high school. We became good friends because we were the only two guys in a girls gym class (long story). After a year of that we couldn't help but bond. After high school he invited me to all the parties and tried his best to help me get laid. The problem was I thought I knew better and that he was going after a lower class of woman. Years later after we lost touch I find out that he's banging a woman I had previously dated and desperately wanted a relationship…
/r/TheRedPill20/09/13 02:50 PM
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This is true. Some kids do a complete 180 to their upbringing. Everyone knows the stereotype of the wild preacher's daughter. It happens but they are usually the minority. Consider yourself lucky you saw the behavior as toxic instead of normal.
/r/TheRedPill20/09/13 02:01 PM
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I never really understood until I moved out to college. When you are a kid everything you see is rationalized as "normal". This is exactly why it is important to get to know the parents. Once they get some distance from home, some people see their home life for what it is and do a complete 180. While others (probably most) never do and keep seeing it as normal. You can tell the ones who have done the 180 because they either don't want you to meet their parents or you get a long talk before you m…
/r/TheRedPill20/09/13 01:46 AM
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Also pay close attention to the cleanliness of the house. Sure, you can pick up a place to make it presentable but I'm talking about signs of regular cleaning. Look for cobwebs, black tile grout, buildup of dust on ceiling fans & light fixtures, items that should be thrown away, places where food is prepared or served that is not sanitized, etc. Because any child that is raised in a house that is not routinely cleaned will not see the purpose to do so no matter how much you tell them to. You'll …
/r/TheRedPill19/09/13 06:52 PM
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While your theory is sound, it ignores how excitement and danger can raise SMV. I've personally seen a dirt poor 9 ditch a corporate suit for a firefighter making significantly less.
/r/TheRedPill18/09/13 03:01 AM
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