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CMVpetella-2-the-sac/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 12:56 AM
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Word salad. Too bad I'm a carnivore
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 12:33 AM
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Cool. You don't need to worry about men leaving. Enjoy your life
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 12:23 AM
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You have revealed yourself as a bored antagonist with no real interest in the topic
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 12:22 AM
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Low effort 2014 era shaming. Not worthy of any further responses
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 12:21 AM
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None of that is true. The fantasy utopia you have to fabricate in order to own people online will never come true. No amount of false concern or passive aggression will distract me from informing men of a better way to live
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 12:20 AM
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Baseless concern trolling meant to derail the point. This solution seems like a real threat to you. I wonder why
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 12:18 AM
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No. Romantic love is a foundational need for men. They deserve more than the death sentence of isolation with the occasional prostitute as you prescribe. They should go after a better life overseas
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 12:16 AM
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Correct. American social circles and communities are broken beyond repair
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 12:15 AM
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I'm conceding the point and still getting down voted lmao. I'm about to be bitter myself
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 09:34 PM
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I could never get away with mind reading like that, but go off
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 08:59 PM
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Loaded questions? What is this, 2013 reddit? How long have you been beating your minority children?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 08:58 PM
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Whatever other women feel, their attitude is better than that of Americans
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 08:56 PM
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She loses value.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 08:49 PM
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I don't think it works that way, because women who have positive experiences with men don't love men. They are just neutral. But I don't know how to argue about Iceland so I concede
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 08:48 PM
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The type of woman who can obtain what women typically want, manogamous commitment from a top tier man. This requires a bit of reverse engineering to figure out. But it is something like this: a conventionally beautiful 20 year old virgin with a predisposition towards domestic duties and motherhood.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 08:46 PM
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Okay
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 08:40 PM
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I stand corrected.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 08:37 PM
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It comes exclusively from acedemic indoctrination. Women in other countries suffer bad things and never develop a disproportionate contempt for men that the average american woman has by default
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 08:19 PM
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I compared them. I'd do it again too. People who have never been to the Philippines are free to assume the women are living in literal garbage. The truth is filipinas with degrees and jobs are still poor because its a poor place. Those women are happy to pair up with American men for a lifestyle boost and no amount of fake moralizing from redditors can turn this into exploitation
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 08:18 PM
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Genuinely happy for you winning the genetic lottery. This strategy is not for you
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 08:14 PM
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Yeaaaaah
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 08:12 PM
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I factor women's ingrained disdain for men into everything they say.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 07:31 PM
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The improvement method works for zero men. Not few or some. Zero. Improvement is still important, but I think you would agree with me that average men should stop burdening American women for dates and love. Its not here. Think of it as me saying men aren't entitled to American women. Thats a feminist friendly way of framing it
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 07:29 PM
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If anything it will be far better
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 07:21 PM
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Being openly misogynistic is the new meta for dating success. Just remember to also be hot
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 07:15 PM
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Its always, always tall good looking men saying stuff like this. They want short ugly men to try harder and put themselves into the dating pool to get rejected. It makes the hot guys look even better by comparison. Reject this and take the greenpill. Get a passport, date in other countries. Ignore Americans calling you a loser who can't compete, they don't matter. Find love abroad
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 07:08 PM
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That was actually pretty insightful. I tend to tune out women when they say the exact same things because its difficult to know when they are being genuine or just shitting on men. But the you put it finally makes sense why women would feel unsafe and suffer frustration about hooking up with men
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 07:04 PM
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American men cannot strike out overseas. Dating is not wretched everywhere. It is wretched here. It is great elsewhere. I will diligently swat these objections until there are none left. The greenpill is the answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 06:38 PM
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Yes. You're now picking at details of the post like a scab. Do you have an actual point to make or are you just bored. I think its important for American men to travel and date in countries that are more receptive to it. That's the post
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 06:36 PM
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Men who put in effort, go to therapy and treat women as equals remain celibate. None of those things attract American women. American women already say things like they just don't want men, enjoy being single, and see no need to settle for average. I believe the era of debating and negotiating attraction with American women is at an end. Women in other countries still seek ordinary men. Those are the women American men should pursue
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 06:34 PM
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It doesn't need to be easy. It just needs to be better than striking out and rotting alone in the states. Its impossible to fail once a man arrives in another country. People have no idea how wretched dating is in America until they step foot elsewhere
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 06:30 PM
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I never said to not invest in looks or bring women back to the states. The only way to invalidate the greenpill is to attach absurd claims I never made to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 05:15 PM
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Alright its not exclusively American. But my focus for the purpose of this post will be on American men
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 05:14 PM
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I don't know how many ways to explain that obstacles are not a reason why men shouldn't try this. All cons must be compared to the wretched existence of living an isolated life of rejection in America. Average men can either travel or rot alone
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 05:12 PM
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Their actions will overcome your doubts
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 04:37 PM
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I want a quarter every time somebody says it
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 03:55 PM
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I made sure to specify who this strategy was for: average American men. As in average income. Thats about 40k a year. Its not a strategy for poor men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 03:39 PM
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Oh no, tate.. They'll work out and be ambitious. Good for them. What answer are you looking for from me
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 03:14 PM
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Damn you're right. Cancel your flights and remain in the states, guys. I was just kidding
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 03:11 PM
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Its a bit of reddit hyperbole. Don't make a big deal out of it
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 03:10 PM
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Its a dead pill. Its only good for running podcasts. It doesn't serve men. The greenpill offers a tangible solution with proven results
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 02:50 PM
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I specifically said to abuse. There's nothing bad about taking a poor woman and sharing a better life with her if she agrees to it. Only people who assume the worst of men and erase women's agency can possibly find a problem with it. Im not interested in getting their approval
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 02:40 PM
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Everyone gets used for something. This is a fair trade off. Also bring them back to the states is not a part of the strategy. Better to live in other countries together
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 02:35 PM
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A large topic for another post. The important thing is that it happens, and men should take advantage of this instead of rotting alone in the states for fear of people on reddit calling them losers
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 02:25 PM
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Because it already having every country I went to and countless other men confirmed it happens to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 02:22 PM
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Are you being obtuse on purpose? Pill talk is an American thing
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 02:20 PM
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Its not taking advantage when the broke woman with college debt in America meets a well off guy and gets into a relationship though. Its only framed that way when borders are crossed. Strange
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 02:19 PM
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Noted. We will remove your country from the list. There are still like 80 countries where American men are sought after by women
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 02:17 PM
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Assuming the worst of men is an attitude best kept in America. Not worth addressing. The men who adopt this strategy are decent and normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 02:15 PM
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Redpill is using a bunch of tactics and molding your personality around the toxicity of american dating and social interaction just to endure women who don't like or need you long enough to get laid. Greenpill skips all that. Start a family with a kind woman in another country. The two pills have nothing in common
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 02:13 PM
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This strategy may not be for you. Find success in America if you can
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 02:10 PM
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The receipts are in. Decades of expats with wives and children, not divorced, smiling. By the thousands. This strategy saves mens lives
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 02:10 PM
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I could just copy paste my post again. My reasons are stated there
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 02:08 PM
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That must be the reason. Anyway, its a solid strategy and men should do it
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 02:07 PM
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Anything white people do is a complex, syndrome and a microagression if you are woke enough. People of every race travel to marry foreign people
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 02:06 PM
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Straw successfully grasped
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 02:03 PM
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Its not more work and stress than the debilitating hell of being a celibate lonely American man. Men end themselves over this. Taking the trouble to get on a plane is a vacation by comparison
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 02:02 PM
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It is that easy. And even if it wasn't easy, it is superior to life alone, facing eternal rejection in America. All men who travel for wives get them. Any difficulties faced are worth the trouble to avoid isolation
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 02:01 PM
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None of the obstacles a man might face while traveling for love are comparable to the withering isolation of being a single man in America
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 01:57 PM
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A man can earn 30k usd a year remotely and live comfortably in various countries while taking care of a woman. I've traveled and met many expats living the life I now advocate for. There is no shortage of jobs or skills that earn this measly amount of money. Its not free of snags but it is vastly superior to life as a celibate overlooked average American man
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 01:56 PM
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All of them. They want American men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 01:53 PM
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Its not a solution for the world. Its for American men, the foundation of pill related dating discussions
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 01:50 PM
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Life isn't fair. Its a solution for American men, not the whole world
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 01:48 PM
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No it doesn't. Its not trafficking unless she is being trafficked. Women can choose to live poor with the poor men around them. They can choose to take advantage of an opportunity to cling to a man with money. An option poor men don't have. This privilege is not victimhood
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 01:47 PM
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Still better odds then wading through the swamp of western dating
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 06:00 AM
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The soon men like me exit the country, the sooner you will be rid of us
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 05:54 AM
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I feel no desire whatsoever to convince clear misandrists of my pure intentions. Im a villain to you regardless of what I say or do. Believe what you want. If I'm a danger to foreign women, you should save them and stop me
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 05:05 AM
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So we should be hearing at least 51 percent passport bros retreating back to the west with tales of betrayal. Wild how there's none at all
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 05:02 AM
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Your default assumption of men's evil intent is what I hope to free men from. Fortunately men don't need your permission to travel and treat foreign women with mutual love and affection. You can assume the worst from behind a screen in America. You can imagine every lurid and sinister fever dream of abuse and exploitation while men carry on having perfectly normal relationships with women thousands of miles away.. it doesn't make a difference
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 04:54 AM
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One day eastern women will be as fulfilled, free and happy as western women.. oh wait
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 04:45 AM
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Okay but my solution is valid
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 04:05 AM
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Pitiful coping and seething. Enjoy the perfect stable and fair dating market that 99% of people are happy with even though half of people are single and crying about it online. I'll go be a 4chan weirdo overseas. Everyone wins
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 04:05 AM
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Mens leverage quadruples in other countries. Its like being on a different planet. You just have to try it and see
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 04:01 AM
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It is worth implementing in the short term anyway. Someone will come up with a better solution later. For now, we must initiate the greenpill protocol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 03:43 AM
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I don't care about being well adjusted and socialized according to the bizzare clown world standards of the average redditor. Ill suffer all the basement dweller labels to further the message. Men must escape the west at all costs. Im sure its gonna be a yikes for you and you might have to unpack this while telling me I'd have a chance with an obese climate activist if I was just a decent person. I respectfully decline. Everything sucks here, not just dating. I will travel because its cheaper, s…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 03:18 AM
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You are about to live a life of unimaginable bliss, my friend. Well done. Safe travels
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 02:58 AM
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Somehow, no country where expats roam has locals running out of women. It there is a surplus of women everywhere on earth besides China. Local men have their hands full. Chad is not a concept outside of America. All of these problems melt away when men hop on a plane
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 02:53 AM
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Woke is a spiteful, censorious, and hostile socio-political disposition disguised as decency and empathy. It is commonly adopted by leftists. It is characterized by hypocrisy, overbearing moralizing, denouncing hatred while openly hating certain approved subgroups of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 02:50 AM
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We both know that's not what I mean by woke
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 02:37 AM
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Its international savior complex, and its great. Men of many ethnicities are doing this. And before you pull the trafficking card, remember that a broke American woman who lands a well to do man isn't being trafficked. Doesn't make it trafficking just because a woman is in another country
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 02:35 AM
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Okay. Its not plan a. It would be better if every man could slay. But there's no reason to dwell on that or wish for it. I think its funny that men who are successful dating in the states notice passport bros and say "but don't you wish you could just be us? You're still losers compared to us! You're only leaving because you can't compete!" Its as if they need unsuccessful men to be stuck next to them to create a nice contrast for them to look superior. If they leave, there's no one left to poin…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 02:31 AM
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I understand now. My answer is that this won't/ can't happen, so it doesn't merit any consideration. The world will never resemble a single nation, let alone America of all places. Nothing about an exodus of American men traveling for wives would facilitate that. The millions of Mexicans that enter the states every year haven't turned the states into Mexico. The very few single American men by comparison will have absolutely no significant cultural effect on the wider world
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 02:25 AM
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Either way men are not obligated to rot alone in the states in order to uphold any sort of balance of nature. They should absolutely go to where they have more leverage to find a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 02:22 AM
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Talking about it is a major aspect of the movement. Men must hear about it and spread the word to other men. Unfortunately some women will snoop around and see these discussions, get annoyed, and tell men to somehow do it without talking about it. This is of course impossible. But it comes with the territory
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 02:19 AM
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The women in other countries pray to their gods and ancestors for American men. They don't need pity.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 02:18 AM
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Any obstacles a man might face abroad pale in comparison to the hell of celibate American male isolation. Men will just treat it like a grand adventure. With a woman by his side, its all worth it
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 02:17 AM
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Men all thru history have built massive sea vessels and braved stormy seas in search for new lands and women. Men go to great lengths to gain sexual access. Only in modern neutered culture is it considered cringe to do anything for the explicit purpose of 'coochie'. Purposefully killing your genetic line by convincing yourself that pursuing women is thirsty or pathetic is a product of stunted self loathing abortion-happy American culture where no one wants to reproduce anymore anyway. People pus…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 02:15 AM
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Thats fine. They are too short poor and ugly for American women. No use being sad and alone when Filipina women think they are tall handsome and rich. There's nothing special about obtaining an American woman. If slimmer, cuter and more receptive women exist elsewhere, American men owe it to themselves to find them
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 02:10 AM
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The new us dream is earing remote income and living comfortably in a foreign country next to a cute trad woman
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 02:07 AM
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You are conflating edgy internet trolls with guys who talk specifically about traveling to find wives. There is no overlap there
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 02:05 AM
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It absolutely is both. There are enough unsuccessful men to cause a growing problem in one country. But not enough that when spread out among the billions of receptive women across the globe, any one country would be negatively affected. The only way it would be a problem is if all of the men picked one small country, which wouldn't happen
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 02:04 AM
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American guys are not analogous to Californians. The comparison doesn't work. Americans cannot vote or subvert foreign countries. They just integrate or form little expat hovels
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 02:02 AM
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Men in the states are not genetic failures. They are simply stuck in an suboptimal mating area. They are in many cases larger, healthier and with more resources than men in other countries who are reproducing like crazy. Nearly every expect of commerce, media and culture have been globalized. Its time for mating to be globalized.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 01:56 AM
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imagine a country called Goodmanistan where the men outnumbered the women. Their average height was 6'1. The vast majority of the men are fit, well built, physically appealing, don't have the genetics to go bald. The culture of the country is one of traditional male roles and chivalry combined with liberal feminist roles for women. All the men are high earners, yet all have the time and energy to court and date women like in ye olden days. They don't push for sex or harrass women, yet can someho…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 01:53 AM
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Men did not used to build their lives with the intention of being an expat. But they should begin to now. A celibate man entrenched in the states with a job and property who can't leave will have to sell everything and live humbly in another country. Still better than isolation. This lifestyle will require radical changes for some men. But reproduction is a powerful drive. If its not realistic, men will make it realistic
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 01:43 AM
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If every single celibate American man left America to the the counties i mentioned, the gender ratio and social dynamics around the world would scarcely feel a blip of a shift. The number isn't nearly large enough. Its nothing like the hoards of immigrants that flood the UK or America every year completely upending small communities and economies. It would be a very small number of men spread across the world, boosting various poor countries business and helping people. I didn't realize it at fi…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 01:38 AM
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Anyone who can create a social media account or get an ID card can obtain a passport. Its not difficult. I don't know what sort of handicapped men you think can't get it. But its not a significant thing to worry about. The problem of sexless isolation is so great and the solutions so few, that the passport strategy will move even the laziest man into action
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 01:34 AM
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Not enough of a problem to avoid initiating the greenpill protocol. We will have to address this behavior as it arises. But the important thing is that men quit arguing with women in America and leave to better areas
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 01:31 AM
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If the greenpill catches on, there will be no more questions or debates on this sub. Everyone on earth will have a partner
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 01:29 AM
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The number of men this strategy applies to is not large enough to make a devastating shift to any other countries social structure. It is only single American men who are unsuccessful dating. Not all men. The influx will bring money and tourism to poor countries and help to the families of foreign women. Its like a new international resource- sex exchange program. It will coat the world in harmony
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 01:28 AM
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Men will figure that part out if the promise of a loving woman seems plausible. The wider economy is not my concern. Im only posting about the dating crisis. Also. If every single man in America left to all the various countries where women are more receptive, it wouldn't even be a drop in the bucket. The world and the population of women is massive. That won't be a problem
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 01:24 AM
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I see your donut and raise you an bagel. The aimless rants about feminism and the wall is one thing. An actual solution with actual physical affection in sight is entirely different. This ill compell men to action
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 01:21 AM
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I don't think such a person exists. A passport is less than 2 hundred bucks so you'd have to be too poor to maintain internet access to truly not be able to get one. You can't be a failure on that level while also ranting about women online. Everyone can get one. Everyone can travel. Also, it is already established that men with ambition, jobs, manners, social skills and hobbies can be celibate in the states. None of this is enough to attract an American woman. Every little thing gives women her…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 01:19 AM
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Its a shame that we desire sex... and food, and air, and shelter and comeraderie. It certainly would solve everything if we just didn't need things instead of needing them. But that would also suck. I believe satisfying desires is better than having no desire. This applies to sex and everything else
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 01:12 AM
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Men have been traveling abroad for women for decades before the internet came up with labels for it. Not one of them lost any sleep worrying about whether people back home thought they were losers who couldn't land hostile American women. There is no net downside to passport maxxing
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 12:40 AM
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Yes. Let them reach critical mass in silence
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 12:30 AM
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Opposite. Most of them marry and start families. All of the worst things people accuse passport bros of is demonstrably false
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 12:24 AM
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They deal with any unfamiliar problems they might face with a smile knowing their predicament is leagues better than the sexless, loveless isolation of being a dude in America
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 12:21 AM
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There's a simple way to communicate this without needlessly extending word usage. Just say women. By next year people are going to be saying female women of uteri who posses xx chromosomes and bleed monthly. Trans people are still exceedingly rare. Unless they are being refered to directly, everyone understands woman to mean adult human female
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 08:33 PM
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Question for women. What percentage of you are woke? Does a man have to adheare to woke opinions in order to qualify for a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 08:09 PM
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Too wholesome for this sub. Almost saccharine in its delivery
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 07:18 PM
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This is worthy of a post. Show women how its done. Since men making moves is either pitiful or inappropriate
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 06:58 PM
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If you were pregnant and are married then you've already succeeded in a way that makes this topic irrelevant for you. A man must have made his move on you already
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 06:42 PM
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I refuse to accept morbid obesity as 'normie'. An Instagram model is an extreme that I wouldn't approach because I know their expectations are in space. There are very many non fat, unremarkable women who are unattainable by non fat, average hieght, unremarkable men. This seems off balance to me. Sentencing these men to be burried underneath enormous women is cruel. There must be a peace treaty between the true average people, beginning on some hard definitions of what average means.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 06:41 PM
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Then we are stuck speculating on what ratio of men are holding out for drop dead gorgeous women. I think its very low for the overwhelming numbers of men who debase themselves for a crumb of attention from anything vaguely female-looking
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 05:40 PM
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That almost sounds plausible but it doesn't bare out. Mens standards have proven to be astronomically low relative to women's. I can attest to seeing a frightening ratio of fit guys hand in hand with grotesquely obese women in my city, with no reverse equivalent. Mens standards are underground right now, and below average looking women are spoiled for choice. Both sexes want the best looking partner they can find. But men are currently at a severe disadvantage
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 05:34 PM
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The answer is considered demeaning to modern western women, but it is this: be traditional. I've been listening to accounts of passport guys and a common thing that happens is that they marry very quickly (commitment) because of how traditional the foreign woman they date is. She will, without men asking, start doing things like cooking, cleaning his place, folding his clothes. Rubbing his back. Men can't enjoy treatment like that and then just move on. They will lock a woman like that down. Of …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 05:27 PM
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Male option a: get a remote job, passportmaxx in a country where dating is still good for men. Male option b: expire alone. Female option a: share Chad with other women. Female option b: explore bisexuality/ live with other women or alone
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 05:13 PM
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Female women? God i hate what the internet has done to the English language
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 05:07 PM
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No one liking you is far worse than 'not everyone liking you'. The point of this thought experiment is to highlight the profoundly withering effect of knowing that absolutely no one wants you. It's not about the normal experience of knowing that not everyone wants you
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 05:04 PM
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Touch starved men would. I don't factor myself into these topics because I'm doing fine
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 12:23 AM
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Another take that could only exist in the west. Always remember that in other countries, ugly poor people are pairing up and having families like people have done for millennia. Only here is looks, income, social status and conversation skill so obsessed about that people end up alone rather than suffer the profound indignity of dating a loathesone average person
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 09:23 PM
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Its called the ick. Guys who make social blunders like expressing emotion or being insecure in any way will trigger this in women
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 07:49 PM
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Guys who follow all the normie advice and end up with no results are certifiably ugly. After coming to this conclusion, the next solution is to passportmaxx. Do not continue to try and find dating success in the west
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 07:48 PM
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Dating apps are not built to help men find dates. They are built to facilitate addiction and siphon money. To that end, they are designed perfectly, down to the absurd double standards in filters and frustrating lack of features
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 07:41 PM
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Here is why this doesn't work: Men can only focus on other things while supressing their desire for sex for a limited time before sexual frustration begins to reveal itself. If no woman wanders into their bed before then (they wont), now they must work even harder to hide their compounding desire for sex because any expression of this desire registers as needy desperate and creepy. They are now engaging in whatever hobbies or mixed social circles as pressure cookers of libido who must put on a m…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 07:33 PM
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No one lives their entire life based on the desire to get laid. Thats an unfair exaggeration of the original topic. I am asserting that, for men, sex is a need. Men must do certain things for the explicit purpose of getting laid. If they develop other motivations to continue those things, that's fine. But it won't work the other way around. Men do not have the luxury of just living life and sexual opportunities just falling into their lap. If they attempt to live that way, they will become celib…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 05:53 PM
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Men have more collegen than women which causes their skin to retain it's elasticity and youthfulness for longer. This is why women's skin sags and they develop jowels earlier than men. Higher test levels also account for slower loss of muscle mass and energy levels relative to women.. this is why men remain work horses into their 60s while even single childless women report burnout from their careers.. This is only a partial aspect of aging, but even women themselves admit to aging worse than me…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 04:44 AM
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I wonder how common this feeling is, but I think I've been influenced by a combination of real life experiences and internet accounts of women doing things like agreeing to a train on a whim or kissing a random who approaches her at a club just because. I have allowed over exposure to this behavior to sour me on the idea of women needing time or a connection before action. And then I take it as an insult if a woman warms to me but doesn't want to jump into bed right away. I assume if I were suff…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 04:25 AM
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This insight seems to only come from guys who already have sexual access, or women. It is easy to overlook how profound sexual frustration can be in men. It derails their psyche. Porn and a fap doesn't alleviate it. Focusing on wellness, goals, nature, hobbies, and friends gradually becomes more and more difficult as the celibate manuvers through life untouched for months, years, a decade. It is not just about having the pee pee touched. Long periods of rejection and isolation is withering on a …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 04:07 AM
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I pursued money and travel for the sole purpose of getting laid. Got laid. It is common to frame the desire for sex as the most heinous and undignified motivation for doing anything. But it isn't rooted in any legitimate reasoning. Reproduction is as strong a drive as hunger or self preservation. Its as valid a reason as any other for self improvement
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 03:57 AM
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This is why women want male friends more than men want female friends. Women know men catch feelings. It is useful to have a man in that position. He's more attentive, more servile. And due to the social atmosphere, he has no leverage to excepect anything from her. It's an absolute layup. I don't blame women for collecting male friends like pokemon. I'd probably do the same thing. There are no downsides
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 02:41 PM
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Not mainstream media, any group of people. Ask anyone if a guy is a jerk for changing his mind about a relationship after sex. Majority will say yes. Ask anyone if a woman is a jerk for changing her mind about sex after a very flirty date with great chemistry leads to the bedroom. 100% will say no, she owes him nothing. He's entitled to nothing. Women should get what they want from men. Men deserve nothing from women. Men deceive, women simply change their mind. People in general side with women
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 02:23 AM
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It would be normal to fear and hate men after experiencing that. Its simple self preservation mixed with pattern recognition. I don't make excuses for this. I am not ascribing a value to it. It doesn't require excusing or justifying. I'm just stating how things are. I used to say not-all-men but now I just figure people have a reason for how they feel so I steer clear of women who hate men. I don't need everyone to treat me like a blank state. People don't operate that way
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 01:54 AM
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The judge im referring to is the wider culture of people. There seems to be a significant bias in favor of women
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 01:49 AM
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I wouldn't believe you either. I would think I was being set up for a tik tok prank or something. Don't sweat it.. if the vibe was that good he'll be back
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 01:47 AM
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I can't imagine you have absolutely no knowledge of women checking their men's phones, forbidding their men from socializing with certain women they find threatening, interrogating their men, etc. Accusing famous men who sleep with groupies of abusing a power imbalance. Framing a drunk man and a drunk woman having sex( everyone who's ever gotten married ever) as him raping her and then encoding it into law,.. I got way more, but yeah women try to impede men's sexuality through shame, cultural an…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 01:40 AM
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A mirror image of women bragging about wasting guys time on tik tok and irl. Scamming men for dinners. "Finnessing" men. There is a vibrant and active culture of women competing with eachother to fleece men of time, attention and money while leaving them blue balled. Its a sport. My point is not to determine who is worse, but to point out that both sexes do it but men are more harshly judged for it
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 01:29 AM
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You will need to be more specific. Most men will commit. But most men are ugly and lame according to women. How tall, what race, what level of education, what income, what hobbies, how popular, what political stances, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 01:22 AM
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I don't know how to quote you on reddit so my reply might be all over the place. The reason I don't hear women saying the exact same thing that men say is because the sexes are different and they mate gaurd differently. I wouldn't expect the sexes to use the exact same tactics or shaming language on one another. Women call men other insults and use other tactics to influence male behavior. Men experience a different suite of societal pressures and shaming related to their sexuality and behavior.…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 01:19 AM
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Women working and making money in non western countries are still dating and starting families with average men in such high numbers that western men have fled to those countries to find mates. Not impoverished desperate slave women, but working, educated women in other countries. Its not simply a matter of economic shifts. In the west specifically, a combination of hostility towards men taught to women from gradeschool into university with a deliberate diminishing of men by government and cultu…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 01:01 AM
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If I over explained it, just saying patriarchy is an extreme under- explanation. Especially since women also don't want the men they are interested in to have options, and go about mitigating those men's access to other women in other ways. Thats not matriarchy. It is mate guarding. Men do it, women do it, in different ways. The problem with invoking patriarchy is that it reduces men's thoughts and inclinations to the level of a Saturday morning cartoon villain. Men just being jerks to women bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 12:44 AM
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It's not an airtight theory, I just remember skimming the study years ago. Short of men's mere instinct for wanting women that other men haven't had, there isn't a justification for the standard that would satisfy women As for comparing other men vs women partners, its a matter of the man's perception of his standing with the woman. He won't feel diminished if his woman was with other women, even women who were better in bed. Hell, I expect women to be better with other women in bed. No refracto…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 12:11 AM
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This assessment would have been reasonable as much as a decade ago, but the rapid collapse of social dynamics is becoming too apparent to brush aside. This year the incel rate is something like a 3rd of American guys. It will be half by 2025. It will only rise. All social media apps have gotten noticeably more addictive. Social venues and irl events have less people at them. Guys with good jobs, gym routines and manners are reporting being alone, not approaching for fear of accusations of harras…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 11:57 PM
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I think 1) that women are as ill-intentioned as men, which probably sounds harsh when its so normal to assume men's guilt in all matters. 2) women currently have the social advantage over men, which skews the rate of who takes advantage of whom in modern dating. I'm fine if we disagree on these matters though
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 11:37 PM
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The wicked beauty of women's methods is that nothing is direct. Plausible deniabilty permeates women's interactions with men. While men must be overt in their courting a woman, so that when he decides to leave after sex, the whole scenario appears diabolical on his part. A woman can simply be receptive to a man's attention and favors, without asserting anything. Kindness and flirting are interchangeable and indistinguishable, so she can't be accused of leading a man in any way. A woman can go as…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 11:19 PM
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Men in general are not good at manipulating women, let alone talking to them. It may or may not have been easy in times past, but in the current culture, women are at a massive social advantage. A small number of men possess the looks and social acuity to make up the majority of villains in women's tales of manipulation and abuse, while most men are alone in their apartments looking up videos on how to approach. Women, while more intentional, are having a harder and harder time finding the men t…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 11:10 PM
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Women get money, attention, validation, favors, and gifts from men. Very few men are even attractive enough to be deceptive players, while the average women leads men on as a matter of instinct. The woman's version of this is so normalized into modern life that it doesn't even register as a cruel thing to do. While men's behavior is far more harshly scrutinize. The bias in favor of women getting what they want while having no obligation to reciprocate when men want is practically enshrined into …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 10:57 PM
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There's no way to quantify how many men intentionally mislead women vs women who intentionally mislead men. My most charitable assumption is that the ratio is roughly equal, although there are far less attractive male players who can do this than there are women with abundant opportunities to do it
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 10:53 PM
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What men are referring to is a loss of pair bonding ability. I don't have the data on hand to back up what I say so feel free to dismiss it entirely. But there were studies that showed women produced diminishing levels of whichever chemicals facilitate bonding with each successive partner, and that this was not the case in men. Those old studies are the basis of the idea that womens body counts ruin them but mens don't. As far as a woman who only has been with other women, I would assume most me…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 10:47 PM
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The primary argument used against this very solid comparison is an assumption of deceptive intent on the part of the man who changes his mind, but not on the woman who changes hers. Halo effect in action
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 10:34 PM
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Deceptive intent to is ascribed to the man automatically. Thats the point of the post making the comparison in situations. Either sex can change their minds. But it is not perceived this way for men
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 10:32 PM
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Women in more traditional countries don't even do this. All women work everywhere in the world. The difference in more traditional countries is that women do not prioritize their jobs. They work until they find a husband and then shift to focusing on mother/wife duty without the neurotic power struggle that western women go through.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 10:26 PM
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The blackpill always cuts through the fog of sophistry and gaslighting that make up dating discourse.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 06:36 PM
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The thing that will always derail this topic before it can even get going is the clownish western confusion about what constitutes femininity vs masculinity. You will get a dozen objections to pink cute things being inherently feminine before you ever get a straight answer as to the legitimacy of wanting a feminine woman
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 06:33 PM
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I call this the stolen victory lap. It is something that has been nagging at me regarding gender discussions. Something left unsaid. One example of a popular topic involves the discrepancy between men and women in life and dating. Commonly I hear that women are doing great now, having more sex, relationships, better social lives, earning more money, getting more education, hot girl summer, etc. While men by comparison are languishing. Lower grades, less participation in college, more isolated, s…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 06:24 PM
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None of this is based in the reality of human nature. Firstly, the right to hate is inherent. It isn't granted or justified by anyone. People just hate. Secondly, multiple bad experiences with the opposite sex will cause both men and women to develop resentment towards that sex. This is the most common and relatable form of hate. Thirdly, hating the other sex doesn't affect success in attraction. Being ugly or hot does. This is why toxic, abusive and sadistic men and women never run out of victi…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 06:11 PM
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Even the worst description of a passport bro is living a better life than the average man in the states. No guy in a foreign country, living with a young attractive woman, experiencing abundant sex and validation, is worried that Americans on reddit are calling him a beta who couldn't attract western women by being chad enough. No guys who do it ever come back to the states or ever report missing dating or women in the west.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 06:01 PM
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