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It feels if something happens to a woman, people jump on the bandwagon to tell how it wasn't her fault, society socialized her that way, how society is biased against women. This sentiment is also present in the near-equivalent female version to the word "toxic masculinity", which is "internalised misogyny". The word selection in the term "internalised misogyny" heavily implies that the person has internalised the harmful gender norms - that is, they originated from somewhere else (society), so …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/09/20 04:15 PM
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It's a legitimate worry I have with a lot of women. Considering how difficult it is for me and other men to be vulnerable around others, I'm not sure many women know what a vulnerable man even looks like most of the time. I feel like the expectation with emotionally vulnerable men is to be vulnerable in a way that is not too unbearable for anyone present - to hold back tears, to show signs of composure even when breaking down, to signal emotion but not too much lest the listener become overwhelm…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/08/20 08:36 AM
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They're quite literally flexing on a bunch of dead and ill people, more still to come. Really not the most tactful thing to do at this time.
/r/MensRights06/04/20 01:51 PM
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When it's men who bear the brunt of any kind of suffering, sincere empathy is so painfully hard to come across. Much like with the life expectancy gap, if men are not well off in a certain area, it's rarely seen as an abnormality - it's just how things are. Wasn't there even one gender equality index where noticeable equality in the life expectancies between men and women is considered problematic for a country's rating because it's unnatural? Can't help but be reminded of it in this case. Edit:…
/r/MensRights04/04/20 02:08 PM
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Considering the amount of criticism directed towards current rape laws for being too one-dimensional, it's funny how sometimes it's those same critics who are seemingly willing to pull out the outdated "penis forcibly pushed into orifice" definition to narrow it down to men like it's no biggie.
/r/MensRights03/04/20 06:43 PM
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It's a very egregious misuse of authority on the doctors' part, considering how much trust an average layman is willing to place on their opinion - especially when there are babies involved. There's a fundamental bond of trust that's being abused here. All for their financial gain, no less.
/r/MensRights19/01/20 07:49 PM
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Another complication that could've been prevented if we just didn't perform this procedure on baby boys. My worry is that instead of reflecting on whether this procedure is necessary at all in the modern world, the parents will just shrug it off as being "unlucky" and continue supporting this tradition as if absolutely nothing had happened to this young boy at all.
/r/MensRights19/01/20 05:03 PM
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Yup. If your aim is to actually make a difference and convince people to listen, you absolutely have to be empathetic towards the audience and maintain a good image. It's a pretty important attribute of a good speaker. Being persuasive is all about being assertive while also being approachable.
/r/MensRights19/01/20 04:50 PM
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The poster is both hellbent on blaming the boy and downplaying the agency of girls at the same time. These are some funny attitudes coming from the people that seemingly care about equality and dismantling stereotypes.
/r/MensRights19/01/20 04:29 PM
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If you truly are attracted to strong, independent women – nothing in this blog will offend you or make you uncomfortable. Remember that. Never thought I'd see the day when a psychologist can end a text with a primary school level double bind and still call herself qualified in any meaning of the word. "If you're upset that I called you stupid, that means you're stupid!" The tone of this text makes me seriously question her ability as someone who claims to help men with mental health issues. Pret…
/r/MensRights14/01/20 05:49 PM
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And by "extra kindness" she means our right to due process or some other basic right, I'm assuming? Taking the position of the accused into consideration and not executing them immediately is "extra?"
/r/MensRights08/01/20 06:18 PM
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That's what I got from this, too. We criticise feminism - not women in general, like OP framed it - and that's an absolutely necessary part of the movement. There are a lot of unhealthy and counterproductive attitudes under the feminist umbrella regarding men and masculinity, and it'd be wrong not to hold them accountable for it. However, we need to focus on those problems when they concern us. Poking fun at feminism is often justified, but if it doesn't have a clear link to our movement, I feel…
/r/MensRights08/01/20 01:46 PM
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Well, let's attempt to break the argument down: Males evolved later from females... ...ergo, females are superior to males. There's a missing link here. It's a rough simplification, but it does reveal an interesting assumption that isn't explained in the text: why does the precedence of the female sex in a biological process indicate women's superiority in another, completely unrelated context? Could it even be used as an argument in the context of gender discrimination, or anything else for tha…
/r/MensRights08/01/20 01:24 PM
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It's pretty much the same as calling people incels. The message being that you can't get laid. It's an ad hominem, so there's very little to do besides simply calling them out on it or just walking away. They're either just trying to rile you up or they don't have any solid arguments against you. I guess you could just say that your life doesn't revolve around getting laid and that men's rights take priority over that.
/r/MensRights08/01/20 10:56 AM
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Ah, gotcha. It's not a thing I've had to worry about yet, luckily, but I'm sure if I ever dare venture out into other subs at some point I'll get what you mean firsthand. I feel like I've gotten used to not giving a shit because I spend so much time here, ha ha
/r/MensRights07/01/20 10:36 PM
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Good call. I'm personally not that worried about what people think of me, I'm not that well known around here or in real life, but I can see how what I said could be held against me. Still, I don't think they really need to be too far down the feminist rabbit hole in order to make posting about men's rights a little awkward. Topics like the wage gap myth are bound to get shot down by most women, feminist or not, I feel. That's why I felt a little justified in making the generalisation.
/r/MensRights07/01/20 10:00 PM
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r/menslib, for a sub that claims to talk about "the real issues facing men," focuses way too much on superficial issues regarding men's gender roles and expectations of masculinity. The sub has a significant female following (1/4 female last year, if I'm not mistaken), which obviously waters down most, if not all, the discussions taking place there. There's a woman chiming in in every major post about how the sub is "safer and less toxic," so any theories deemed too controversial will probably n…
/r/MensRights07/01/20 07:30 PM
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discussing consent or sexual ethics is somehow the equivalent of racist stereotypes Teaching black people not to steal and Muslims not to bomb are both racist stereotypes. Teaching boys not to rape is also a stereotype - a sexist one - but of course they didn't want to call it that. I could just as well frame teaching black people not to steal as "educating them on people's right to own property," because that's what it is. The stereotypes are offensive because the underlying message is that the…
/r/MensRights07/01/20 07:01 PM
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Boy, nothing more motivating than working your ass off and watching half of the population get essentially carried to that same level.
/r/MensRights07/01/20 05:33 PM
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This is a very good comment. I feel like there's a lot of perceptive stuff here that women should know regarding how we view them in a lot of situations. Women have a lot of power in ways that might be very difficult for someone of the same sex to notice.
/r/MensRights07/01/20 01:58 PM
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Pretty sure they're just collectively lamenting something that they perceive to be an issue but actually enforce upon themselves. As in, she makes the conscious effort to be excessively nice and gets sad about it afterwards because others' standards aren't as high as hers. We have to do better, on all fronts, even if it means not apologizing as thoroughly as I feel I need to If apologising in a thoughtful way comes naturally to you, why would you stop? Just to send a message? To whom - some rand…
/r/MensRights05/01/20 12:26 PM
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They should absolutely be outraged, without question, but I feel like the focus is on the wrong thing here. We want to make criticism of circumcision mainstream, change public opinion and eventually stigmatise the tradition so that deciding to circumcise your son will make you the odd duck, not the other way around, sure. But I feel like it's incredibly counterproductive to establish that sort of mindset by stigmatising those that have already been circumcised. Why focus your effort on the boy w…
/r/MensRights05/01/20 11:44 AM
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I appreciate her enthusiasm and the sentiment behind it, but she's definitely struggling a little bit with the wording. Routine infant circumcision is barbaric, but it doesn't justify belittling cut men and outright insulting their physical appearance. Needless to say that "a pitiful remnant" in reference to someone's penis is a very poor choice of words in any context. But on a slightly different note, this post reminded me of how tough this kind of stuff can be for some of the circumcised blok…
/r/MensRights04/01/20 11:38 PM
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Girls in a groupchat I’m in started going off when I jokingly said “if I have to suffer, you’re suffering with me” and started bringing up how they give birth... Women justifying discrimination against men by saying they give birth is an incredibly inane argument that needs to die. Despite all the supposedly empowering feminist rhetoric that is so critical of viewing women as people whose main role is to give birth, for some inexplicable reason, the argument of "women give birth, so it's only fa…
/r/MensRights04/01/20 09:50 PM
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What a sad world it is where jailed mothers - criminals - are able to get more empathy than your average father. A perfect example of the women-are-wonderful effect if I've ever seen one. It's very telling of a father's status in society when women can still be regarded as fit mothers even when jailed while, at the same time, fathers have to specifically prove their worth just to earn the respect and trust of other people when it comes to being the guardian of your own child.
/r/MensRights04/01/20 09:09 PM
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This is, in all honesty, a larger problem than any inequality that you could find in STEM. You can't suggest that male-dominated jobs are harmful because they shape the way young girls see the world when the jobs that actually have to do with children (when they're at their youngest!) are dominated by women. I'd hazard a guess that having little to no male influence in kindergarten or school is inherently more harmful than having little to no female representation in a field most kids wouldn't k…
/r/MensRights31/12/19 09:31 PM
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If power were the primary motivator for raping another person, who would desire it more? Wouldn't it be the person without power, not the one who already has it? Also, "she wants to feel that power over a man that society says she doesn't have." So women do actually have power over men already? I thought we were living in a patriarchy. Freudian slip?
/r/MensRights24/12/19 06:58 PM
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Getting compliments is a very, very subjective benefit and I don't think being circumcised really contributes to that unless it's the cut look that's specifically being complimented. Cut and intact dicks don't look insanely different when erect, most people probably wouldn't even notice it in the heat of the moment. Also, nailing the g-spot is easier? What?
/r/MensRights21/12/19 07:37 PM
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I wonder how big the percentage must be for even these biased publications to admit that their concept of equality is completely perverted. 80% women? 90%? Would they publish these statistics then? Or would they conveniently crop out the outlier to avoid backlash?
/r/MensRights18/12/19 08:09 PM
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The five-party coalition government in Finland is actually currently led by five women, which includes the recently-changed PM, so this is actually already true. The government is being revered as quite the milestone in Finland's political history, and a sign of "women breaking glass ceilings" in a country where there's been a remarkably equal amount of male and female ministers for the last two decades... and a female president who was in office for 12 of those years.
/r/MensRights18/12/19 07:49 PM
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Again, what's there to ask? Judging from your history, you have nothing to do with feminism or the MRM. You're not a politician or an activist. You have barely any importance to this movement or this sub. What kind of insight could we get from this?
/r/MensRights18/12/19 03:51 PM
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I very seriously doubt we'd get any valuable discussion out of this even if we did ask. Go troll somewhere else.
/r/MensRights18/12/19 03:34 PM
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Funny how "married" is included as if the fact she cheated on her husband is the juiciest detail, not so much the statutory rape bit.
/r/MensRights17/12/19 09:54 PM
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A white man's opinion has no value, so we must not speak - except when we're supportive of yours and everybody else's opinions, then it's advisable. Any other sign of life coming from our side is, in any other circumstance, strictly prohibited and unwelcome. All we are allowed to do is agree.
/r/MensRights13/12/19 07:33 PM
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From the comments: if something is a "feminist issue", that doesn't limit it to just the ladies, right? i support affordable housing for all irregardless of sex, gender, etc. A response: Of course it doesn't. Trans rights intersect with feminist rights, men's rights intersect with women's rights, etc. It all bleeds into each other. So it isn't a feminist issue... it's just an issue. They literally nullified the meaning of the post themselves.
/r/MensRights12/12/19 06:56 PM
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This one? https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/e72e1v/a_great_rebuttal_to_toxic_masculinity_is_the/ Just the image, though.
/r/MensRights12/12/19 12:44 PM
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...This is art?
/r/MensRights11/12/19 07:25 PM
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And, as usual, the original post is riddled with talk about "toxic masculinity" being the culprit. Pretty sure a phenomenon this widespread has something more substantial going on behind it than just... toxicity. Just a thought.
/r/MensRights11/12/19 02:50 PM
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Exactly. The result would be the same either way. That's why it's so unbelievably infuriating that these methods are being graded the way they are here, as if the lack of blood or visible injuries would make things any less tragic and more "considerate" towards others. When a person sincerely, and truly wants out, I feel like the opinions of those around them don't weigh very much in the bigger picture - not to say that they don't or couldn't care. It's exceedingly disgusting to throw this one l…
/r/MensRights10/12/19 05:06 PM
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Women will never go back to the “role” of baby-making, apple-pie cooking wives, because any attempt to reduce women’s “multi-option” life will be met with resentment, if not interpreted as abuse. Pretty much the gist of it. Women's flexible role in society has been more or less cemented after years and years of feminist activism and advocacy, and it's obviously here to stay. Feminists are eager to claim this achievement as theirs, even though it's pretty self-evident that the society they were s…
/r/MensRights10/12/19 02:37 PM
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Those evil, selfish men with their brutal suicide methods! At least women take the effort to present their deaths in a graceful manner. How uncouth! /s What a vile person. Imagine being so far up your own ass that you'd go so far as to use suicides to give you and your gender an ego-boost. Makes me incredibly angry.
/r/MensRights10/12/19 10:55 AM
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OU president Moishe Bane said that “the Swedish Center Party’s decision to promote a ban on religious circumcision is synonymous with calling for the end of Jewish life in Sweden. It's incredible how central baby penises are to these people. Apparently even just a mention of a ban is enough to make the whole religion collapse on itself and make these blokes consider the country completely unliveable.
/r/MensRights08/12/19 02:59 PM
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Unpaid emotional labour, as if we're ever going to pay anyone even a cent for something so exceedingly vague. Imagine demanding money for just being a good person lol. I'm not getting paid for being expected to put my life on the line in the case my country goes to war, either.
/r/MensRights06/12/19 04:54 PM
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When writing, there's a "quote block" button at the bottom. It will create an indent where you can copy the quote or write your own text like this On PC, at least. Have no clue about how it works on mobile devices.
/r/MensRights06/12/19 03:56 PM
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I'd rather eat alone that with people who refuse to see women as deserving of humanity and respect. Shut uuuup. Refusing to call oneself a feminist has absolutely nothing to do with seeing women as lesser beings. Feel free to eat alone, I don't care. Just don't start complaining that you've got no buddies to eat with, it's not their problem and you're not entitled to their presence.
/r/MensRights06/12/19 03:43 PM
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Granted, I get the joke, but it's still very ironic considering how it's the cut dicks that tend to have a rougher look after all the years of being "polished" by the inside of your pants. That, and the lack of moisture.
/r/MensRights03/12/19 05:34 PM
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We all wish... But honestly, with Finnish documents you're better off finding a Swedish version and translating it from that pretty much every time. The gap between the two languages is just way too big.
/r/MensRights02/12/19 07:47 PM
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Kind of late, but thought these were relevant: "In Finland, circumcision of boys for non-medical reasons is, for the moment, not expressly forbidden by law. The Finnish Medical Association recommends in its statement that surgery not be performed on a child until they themselves can make a decision regarding the matter." "The parents' right to practice religion does not justify breaking the law or restricting the child's own right to religious freedom by performing irreversible operations on the…
/r/MensRights02/12/19 07:16 PM
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Imagine attacking someone's gender and essentially their entire identity, calling it shit, watching them get rightfully offended, and coming to the conclusion that "yep, this person is shit." Asshole.
/r/MensRights14/11/19 09:10 PM
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This shit's just everywhere, isn't it? If the fact that they're completely willing to pull off that kind of shit and lie - in front of cameras, even - in order to advance in some reality show isn't proof of how widespread this problem is, then I don't know what is.
/r/MensRights14/11/19 08:28 PM
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What? Check my other comments on this thread. I'm not a feminist - anything but. I feel like we're both having some sort of stroke here, I'm a little confused.
/r/MensRights14/11/19 07:57 PM
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Yeah, sorry about the confusion, I was starting to think I was going crazy here, haha. I guess my comment was a little hard to read.
/r/MensRights14/11/19 07:13 PM
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I didn't say they weren't similar, I think we're talking about two entirely different things here. I was criticizing feminists for making a post about FGM in relation to circumcision, when there was no reason to mention how circumcision is supposedly not as bad. It wasn't a post that said "FGM is bad, we must stop it", it was a post that said "FGM is worse than circumcision and here's why". I'm saying the post is shit because they compare it to circumcision to emphasize how bad FGM is. My whole …
/r/MensRights14/11/19 07:07 PM
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I wasn't trying to say that FGM is acceptable or that bringing it up is wanting to look like a victim, guess I should've clarified. I just meant to say that OP's comment is completely valid and isn't derailing the conversation about FGM because the point of the whole post was to compare the two. I'm also saying that making a standalone post about how FGM is worse compared to circumcision with (seemingly) zero provocation is distasteful. Discussing FGM on a feminist sub is obviously okay, but the…
/r/MensRights14/11/19 06:34 PM
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To be fair, according to OP, the post was about comparing the two together, which is kind of an odd thing to do in and of itself. To borrow your analogy, it'd be like making a post about how cancer is worse than diabetes when diabetes wasn't even mentioned. It's weird and reeks of wanting to look like a victim.
/r/MensRights14/11/19 05:28 PM
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What a vulture of a girl. She worked fewer hours for the same pay and manipulated you into giving money on top of that? Sounds like a deranged opportunist to me. Probably has an inflated ego too, I'm guessing. Looks like giving her the money didn't really help either if she's still spreading those rumours around. Not sure if there's anything to be done there, she'll probably be believed regardless of... anything that you say, really. The power women have is scary.
/r/MensRights14/11/19 05:20 PM
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She even brought up school shootings too. Reeeaally mature. It's sadly very telling that this kind of bullshit is able to fly even in places like AITA. How is reddit supposed to be biased towards men, again?
/r/MensRights14/11/19 04:25 PM
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Man, that's rough. There's no valid reason to leave the man completely out of the abortion like that. He's just as much the parent of his kid as the mother and he deserves to know about the decision well in advance. Must feel absolutely horrible to have your own feelings on the matter neglected like that. Scarring, without a doubt.
/r/MensRights12/11/19 03:12 PM
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It's treated like it's a big crime? It is a big crime. Besides, you're kind of leaning on your personal experiences here. Not judging you for being hypothetically ecstatic about it - knock yourself out - but going on about how "it's not even that big of a deal" is exactly the type of climate that enables the abuse of those that are not ecstatic about having sex with someone possibly decades older than them. I'm sure some kids out there think it'd be cool to have some woman be sexually attracted …
/r/MensRights10/11/19 09:47 PM
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Punching up is still punching - in this case, punching about half of the human population. It's this kind of bullshit that perpetuates DV against men, among a plethora of other things. We're not all on top of the fabled ivory tower. A lot of us are doing worse than you.
/r/MensRights22/10/19 07:06 PM
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And because we're the losers of this victim game, we're gilded with the privilege of being essentially free game for any amount of generalization and harassment. Funnily enough, it becomes a "negative privilege" in itself - being treated differently on the basis of gender, I mean. I really doubt they'd allow me to assert something like that, though. Being the "oppressor" and therefore deserving of shit is pretty much another negative multiplier that men are expected to put up with when it comes …
/r/MensRights21/10/19 03:26 PM
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"Just remember that men don't feel guilty about using women..." projectionprojectionprojectionprojection
/r/MensRights21/10/19 02:15 PM
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The amount of signs saying the same thing is absolutely hilarious. Pretty sure there's seven, not counting the ambiguous one behind the car. Not sure if they're trying to make some sort of point here or...
/r/MensRights20/10/19 06:50 PM
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The whole "but your problem is men's fault" argument is beyond stupid. I've seen it used as some sort of fucked-up "gotcha" line by feminists, but all it does is silence men's voices about their own issues. I'm assuming they think that a man in power would have no reason to enact laws that go against men's rights, but that's a really asinine assumption. Women have voted for restricted access to abortion - keep in mind that this is the gender that has a stronger bias towards themselves than men. …
/r/MensRights19/10/19 09:59 PM
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