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Upvotes	Title	Category	Author	Subreddit	Date (UTC)
45	Sometimes, women's judgements about men are not accurate	CMV	phalanxbg	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/05/20 12:49 PM

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5	What was the moment that made you go MGTOW? A combination of natural dislike for what relationships offer and several consequent bad experiences with love and dating totally ruined relationships in my eyes. I was in really bad situations and really struggled to find my place within the manosphere ideas - I was in foreveralone but wasn't really a forever aloner, I was a mgtow but not fully accepting the core idea, I was fully black pill at certain points. Now, I can't say what I am but I can say that I'm good.	/r/MGTOW2	13/09/20 09:21 PM
1	Q4RP: Who do you turn to for emotional support? No one, which at first, when you realize it, is scary but after some time it stops being scary because you are stronger than ever before. The reason I turn to no one is because no one will actually take their time to at least hear me out. It just never happens.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/08/20 03:22 AM
1	A man's best chance at a sexually healthy relationship is one in which he is far more attractive than his partner. Ironic. The same thing happened to me though I ended the relationship due to other reasons and am not really regretting what I did. The relationship itself was good. It was like a relationship should be imo - basically a safe space with a person you want to be with plus the other more basic relationship things.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/07/20 12:00 PM
2	Do you ever get approached sexually? Mid twenties, had 4 cases where that happened but it was luck. Women don't chase me nowadays, especially for sex. I'm just not the type of man they want for sex or for relationships.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/06/20 07:43 PM
2	I think social media and online dating is mentally ruining women I've noticed the same with women in online dating - girls act so harshly and arrogantly there while they really have nothing else going for them. Some of the ones that act harshly are ultimate nerds in reality. Fat girls, ugly girls, fat ugly girls, even they can respond as if you are literally inferior to them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/06/20 09:15 PM
2	Being considered attractive as a man is harder than being considered attractive as a woman Well, not really. I try to stay away from feelings like hate, jealousy. It's like I just don't want it to be that harsh towards men mostly because dating isn't supposed to work the way it is now. It should be way easier to have fun with it and having to go on strict year long diets and having to exercise years just to get one of the basic qualifiers is too strange.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/06/20 08:47 AM
2	CMV: The supposed threat of 'Societal Collapse' because men aren't getting laid sounds like ridiculous wishful thinking and projection Absolutely, the types of men that we will have in large numbers can be motivated to fight for some cause. It's strange how people never even attempt to make judgements on why the stuff in Dijon happens between the Chechens and Algerians and how it is possible for more if that stuff to occur.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/06/20 08:36 AM
1	Are women more critical of men? Yes, whenever a man says something that doesn't benefit women, people will try their best to look for rational explanation or any explanation whatsoever that will refute the claim. It's quite different for the other side.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/06/20 08:57 PM
2	Being considered attractive as a man is harder than being considered attractive as a woman If you read some comments from women about what a man should do in order to cover the basics, you see stuff which would need long-term diets and years of constant physical exercise because that is how you can actually achieve what women desire. It's not just half a year of training and boom, you are good. I actively played sports and continued to do physical exercise and the amount of work you have to out in just to be considered basic by some women is amazing.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/06/20 08:54 PM
4	CMV: The supposed threat of 'Societal Collapse' because men aren't getting laid sounds like ridiculous wishful thinking and projection The thing is that we should define what a collapse means and that has to be linked with the changes that the current trends will bring. Personally, by collapse, I dont mean an apocalyptic series of events but a slow decline that will make Western societies poorer and potentially dangerous due to the fact that there are large minorities of people who do not care about the society they live in. Example, we have the Algerian vs Chechen fights in Dijon of which we will see more as time passes, we ha…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/06/20 08:50 PM
1	For guys who complain about women not emphasizing with men who having dating struggles, what would like women to do to show they care? Well, there is no other way for the time being - people will judge men more harshly and they will have reasons for it. Especially where I live, there are so many men with deviant behaviours. I don't know why, tbh, or more like I will need a ton of research to determine that. When it comes to men that are harsher towards lonely men, unfortunately, it is true. Ironically, I know a ton of guys who struggle a lot but they rarely talk completely freely about their issues. It could be a defence mechan…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/06/20 10:26 PM
2	The science behind why women struggle to take responsibility and accountability for their mistakes and problems You know what I find ironic, when it comes to presenting any hypothesis that portrays woman as not perfect creatures, I always see a ton of comments critiquing the logical merits of the arguments with so much rigor and motivation. When it comes to men, though, it gets completely different - unproven stuff just gets accepted without the same rigorous checking in the other cases.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/06/20 09:24 AM
1	Men can't handle life's burden of performance because they were not trained by their father to fight for what they want. There certainly are men who can't handle life's burden, however, I am not sure how many of them are like this. There are also those who were motivated in the beginning but just lose all the time. This is damaging. People who have lost several times but had success in something, for example dating, will always tell you 'oh, you just need to work harder, you just need to improve more' but they never acknowledge that the life of many young men is just a series of failures where the man is like a dr…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/06/20 09:18 AM
0	For guys who complain about women not emphasizing with men who having dating struggles, what would like women to do to show they care? It's connected to dating but I really don't understand why some women say they are alone when they are lonely and still have people who they can talk with. When I say I am alone, I mean it. I've gone through the worst period in my life completely alone - my family didn't understand anything, my friends all left me. I was literally alone and as a man, it is hard to make new friends, enter groups because you are always judged harshly, especially if you do not conform to the male archetypes. Just b…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/06/20 07:55 AM
2	What do you think the state of the sexual marketplace will be like in 10/20/30 years time? There are no indications of a possible change because the system is not only slow to react, but the ones that benefit from it do not want it changed while having more power than the ones that want it changed. Id say that we will have a massive amount of people above 30 who will never create a family, have kids and will end up being alone. Most of them will be men as even older women will be able to take turns to play with the older chads. More young guys just drop dating or have no or limited su…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/06/20 04:00 PM
15	Men here are the biggest perpetrators of the halo effect The ironic thing here is that the signs of high self esteem, ambition and social skills are dictated by popular culture. Currently, what common people understand as high self esteem and ambition is someone who acts like a bad guy in cases where he knows there is not a lot of risk for him with his behaviour. It is a facade. The actually capable, high risk, ambitious guys I know that will really do crazy stuff that could even cost their lives have nowhere near as much dating success as the bad boy…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/06/20 02:35 PM
3	What, exactly, is this great disconnect between what you give in a relationship versus what you receive? Interesting topic. Basically, what I give is: My free time spent with the person who I want to be with instead of doing other stuff I have to do. The girls I meet nowadays aren't really fond of me working long hours on some project and not seeing them so I try to stay with the person as long as I can but even several days of doing work and not going out can lead to issues like women nagging how I'm never there for them. Emotional investment - I want to hear what the other person has to say about…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/06/20 09:10 PM
1	Women are complaining men don't want to commit. But what do you have to offer exactly? Do you think the problem is only due to men, or might also be tied to what the average modern woman has to offer? It is a problem for some women and I even know women who had it and have even talked to me about it. I have not made a claim as to how widespread it is as it is not known to me. I'm not sure if there even is research being made.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/06/20 02:26 PM
2	Getting attractive men as a women is not nearly as easy as some guys on here make it out to be. A valuable comment that I'd wish to see more often. Its amazing to witness a 5 or a 6 (on looks) guy who has only been rejected being shown some attention from a woman that is a 4 an his life literally gets so much better in a second. I know guys who cannot even comprehend what it is for a woman to show interest in them. They cannot even imagine it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/06/20 02:23 PM
3	Getting attractive men as a women is not nearly as easy as some guys on here make it out to be. I agree that the idea is really exaggerated and I have never supported it mostly because it has not happened in my experience. The top guys can and will want to have sex with an average girl but it is not that often. That will still not change people's opinion because you will still have a chance to have sex with a good looking guy if you are a 6. Some normal guys (5s or 6s) don't even have a chance with women that are 3s or 4s at this point. Hell, even 7s and 8s on looks will have issues with 4…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/06/20 02:15 PM
-2	Women are complaining men don't want to commit. But what do you have to offer exactly? Do you think the problem is only due to men, or might also be tied to what the average modern woman has to offer? As expected, we see a lot of comments saying: 'but I have no issues with commitments, why do you ask?' as with all cases where there is a question about a problem that women have to answer.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/06/20 01:52 PM
1	The Modern hypocrisy of A lot of Women sexualizing and objectifying themselves and then being upset when they are treated as sexual objects is proof that the modern world lets female hypocrisy slide on a large scale Some girls specifically chase older guys so, yes, they are sexualizing themselves for the guys they chose if sexual intercourse is a part of the relationship. The laws here state that 14 and above are perfectly capable of having sexual intercourse with older people if there is consent so that means no jail for the guys that girls 14 or above chase.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/06/20 07:29 PM
1	The Modern hypocrisy of A lot of Women sexualizing and objectifying themselves and then being upset when they are treated as sexual objects is proof that the modern world lets female hypocrisy slide on a large scale Tell that to the strange old men that constantly harass them. Especially where I live, girls below 18 date guys in their 20s and some even date older rich men. Some girls start doing this when they are 13 or 14 and it is a choice they make. Nothing is wrong with me and I have stated what I see with my own eyes. For a man in his 20s to date a girl that is 14, there is sexual attraction no matter how hard people try to avoid it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/06/20 04:16 PM
0	The Modern hypocrisy of A lot of Women sexualizing and objectifying themselves and then being upset when they are treated as sexual objects is proof that the modern world lets female hypocrisy slide on a large scale It's funny when some random woman comes here and say: but I don't sexualize myself, only certain people do it. This is not true. Go and see how gen z girls dress for an example of sexualization - visible ass cheeks, a lot of emphasis on the ass, see-through clothes. The random woman here will not change what I see. I've been hanging out with gen Z guys and even they acknowledge this.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/06/20 10:25 AM
2	Instead of complaining about men being "players", why don't you simply stop giving those guys a chance with you? The best direct way to discourage a dating behaviour in men is for women to not encourage it. For most of these fuckboy type of guys, it is not that hard to make a correct judgement that they are players and will not want a long-term relationship. We constantly see massive assumptions being made about guys who people deem as losers, nerds, low value or whatever and these types of guys get shunned. There are implicit claims that women are able to make consistently correct judgements about these g…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/06/20 12:29 PM
1	CMV: 'Game' Is Easy for Psychopaths and Sociopaths That's not how things work in practice - there are different women with different moods in different situations and their views on the balance can be contradicting which means that, once again, the 'balance' thing is just being what the woman wants you to be. Humans as a whole are not consistent in their judgements and views meaning that you would have to do it according to the situations you are presented but when these situations aren't consistent, how can you will be able to balance everythin…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/06/20 02:08 AM
1	CMV: 'Game' Is Easy for Psychopaths and Sociopaths The guys who are not rich and who have had the most success with women are almost all of the times just creating a facade without substance. When most of the humans aren't that intellectually capable, they do not strive for substance and, as it is with men, the majority of women do not strive for substance and/or cannot recognize it. Whether you call that facade 'frame' or whatever, Id say that this is an indicator that could point to what your are saying.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/06/20 02:00 AM
2	Remember to always be yourself. Unless you suck I'm a writer and I don't even mention it anymore. I'm not even in the artsy crowd when it comes to looks and manners but, seriously, it is almost always a massive mistake which alienates me from the women that have had interest in me. The way I see it is that you have to blend in in certain archetypes. Why archetypes - most of the guys that have success with dating can always be placed in a certain archetype, at least where I live. In our case, the most popular ones have stoicism as one of their…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/06/20 01:20 PM
2	The recent chain of posts reinforces how apathetic women are to men's emotions. Some people here support the idea that opening up would not lead to unwanted consequences most of the time. My experience and the experience of all the guys I've known shows completely the opposite with a few exceptions. It is just thought police no matter how they try to spin it because even when you claim that people are individuals, there is also popular culture, trends which affect how people perceive things around them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/06/20 01:09 PM
2	Remember to always be yourself. Unless you suck Damned if you do, damned if you don't. That's what the whole mess seems like. You will be judged all the time, no matter what you do.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/06/20 12:59 PM
2	Q4A: If you could "switch off" your sexual attraction to men/women, would you do it? Would your life become better as a result? You explained it really accurately! Thanks!	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/06/20 09:08 PM
2	Q4A: If you could "switch off" your sexual attraction to men/women, would you do it? Would your life become better as a result? Straight man mod 20s here. I really want to turn it off and have actually managed to almost do it. Its hard but it pays off really well. My sexual desires have caused so much damage and have brought me so little that just not having them is way better.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/06/20 09:04 PM
2	A lot things guys on here complain about are simply a consequence of modernity Man, I've seen that claim before: 'they are doing it at an older age' but I have never actually managed to see data for the actually young men, let's say 18-30. Am I missing something because I'm super curious and I have never managed to understand that claim. Will an incel who has had no women being interested in him be able to have sex later? And even than, what does 2-3-4 etc sexual encounters account for when you have been alone for your whole life because women have never desired you? There…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/06/20 08:55 PM
1	A lot things guys on here complain about are simply a consequence of modernity The statements here certainly are a way to explain some of the things we see but there is too much that is not explained. Nobody in the mainstream has ever managed to explain how young men have so much issues with dating and are basically alone throughout a large portion of their life. They say that young men do not want relationships in the first place while the pillosphere (really cool word) say - no, it is just that women do not consider a majority of men good enough and the combination of in…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/06/20 08:53 PM
1	Comparing the effort men and women put into looks is comparing apples and oranges Really interesting take. The amount of accepted styles for women is more than the accepted styles for men. When it comes to looks, there are like 4 archetypes of men who you see with girlfriends while it's way more than that when it comes to women. Like half of the young men Ive seen have the fuckboy look.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/06/20 03:09 PM
3	CMV: The amount of sex a man has doesn't not determine his value. Thanks! Great video! I actually like how these topics got into the more mainstream crowd.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/06/20 11:20 PM
1	CMV: The amount of sex a man has doesn't not determine his value. There are people who make such claims on this sub and on others. Sometimes it is a matter of loose definitions but there certainly are cases when people look down upon people with lack of dating success.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/06/20 11:18 PM
1	CMV: The amount of sex a man has doesn't not determine his value. I knew a handful of Chad's personally. Literally all of these guys lived in a bubble and were really good at creating a nice facade but when you looked for substance, you found none - when you have to count on them for something, they fail; when you need them to be brave and get out of their bubble - they fail. It is an issue with humans but Chad's status sometimes manages to keep him safe from critique.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/06/20 11:16 PM
1	CMV: The amount of sex a man has doesn't not determine his value. One issue that leads to this are the loose definitions people use but there are certainly many here who explain success with women as a result of some holy evolutionary value. Being a young man and having success with young women is a result of mostly social skills and attractiveness. The other thing is stereotypes - you will constantly see people assuming so much about guys who have no or limited success with women. Advice like shower, lift, haircut has become a meme. There is also the people w…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/06/20 11:10 PM
5	Men who think "men age like wine" while saying women hit the wall are exactly the same as fds women who look at an obese, unhygienic woman and call her a "queen." I hope I see your comment more often as people like to insult other people in this sub, too. Sometimes it is low-key but it is always full of assumptions that cannot be proven like the some of the statements in this post.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/05/20 09:45 AM
2	Eastern Bloc vs. American dating culture Well, that is a thing from the past now. This new culture has spread and all the trends I see talked about in the US or Western Europe can be seen here. The main difference I see is that the male archetypes that women like are a bit different. If you act like a gangster in Eastern Europe from the 90s (even if you are still using dad's money), you will be really popular. For example, these types of guys act cocky, aggressive, like drugs and football (soccer), go to the gym, beat other people. Whe…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/05/20 09:42 AM
2	How would recent events shape the dating world? To be honest, I really wished that all your words are true, really. If they were, we probably wouldn't even be here in the first place.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/05/20 10:02 PM
1	Is there really a whole other america/world out there? The lovely Balkans but I won't say much due to security reasons.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/05/20 09:26 PM
1	Is there really a whole other america/world out there? Eastern Europe - here, bad boys are walking gods on the streets. Everyone says they are hated but it never shows. They always have girlfriends and women who are not girlfriends but stay with them for some reason. The majority of the women that do not like bad boys are around other types of drug users and also fuckboys. There are like 4 archetypes of what a man should be and everything else is not accepted. Especially in the country I live in, guys who had no issues finding sex in other countries…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/05/20 09:17 PM
5	How would recent events shape the dating world? Tell me about it. There are so many assumptions made about young men that I cannot blame them for feeling ostracized - they practically are. If you ask the common person about men that lack dating success or have stopped dating, you will get the image of a lazy ruin of a human being that is incapable of doing anything worthwhile. In reality, there certainly are intelligent, capable, average, above average and borderline good looking guys that fall in the above categories. I see such guys in the …	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/05/20 08:28 PM
2	How would recent events shape the dating world? I currently know a guy who is a 7 on looks, extremely intelligent and capable problem solver with an amazing career whose love life is comprised of rejections - one or two from him and 1-2 from a girls he liked. He did not have much desire to deal with relationships at all and he is now a mgtow and has vowed to never deal with dating again. Tbh, you are right that he can end up getting laid, however, it will be with chubby 4 or 3 on the looks scale. If he starts chasing and learns better social …	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/05/20 08:20 PM
4	How would recent events shape the dating world? Have you ever talked to young guys who date or have experienced dating as a common man these days? Have you ever been to a uni in the last decade or have read mainstream media, not even fringe platforms like this sub on reddit? Abandoning dating is as common as it was? Absolutely not, workplace, University, social networks, I constantly see guys who are just tired of all of it despite having some minor success. The ones that have no success aren't failing because they have no money or aren't fol…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/05/20 02:41 PM
1	Q4M: Did you experience any anti-male bias during your education? Please read the full post before commenting. Raising it had several issues. 1. Institutions even more higher up had to be contacted (some sort of inspections would have taken place) as the school administration would have defended the teacher. 2. The school administration has connections with the inspection so they will know exactly who filed reports and there will be a risk of being even more hated. Note that I, as a nerd who is loud enough to be heard and smart enough to sometimes make sense, was not really liked by a lot of the school c…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/05/20 02:16 PM
1	Q4M: Did you experience any anti-male bias during your education? Please read the full post before commenting. There were outright double standards - girls who did absolutely nothing during the school year were able to pass with As extremely easily with 1 assignment while guys who were active throughout the year had to constantly perform. I saw the futility and I just ended up stopping performing well in school	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/05/20 08:22 AM
2	Sometimes, women's judgements about men are not accurate The fact that I point this out here and I automatically get attacked for generalizations where I specifically use the word "sometimes" and then explicitly say that people are not good at judging people is just amazing. Whatever these people claim, there are double standards when it comes to men and women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/05/20 03:03 PM
1	Sometimes, women's judgements about men are not accurate Knives - not knives that are long enough to do anything substantial without high quality training plus, the legal system here is absolute bullshit and it is completely possible to partake in a defensive action and then go to jail for it while the aggressor is free. There are soooo many cases where this has happened so people have become really careful and avoid escalations. Pepper spray - yeah, however, I dont see it being effective when you are attacked by a gang of men who surround you, have b…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/05/20 09:49 PM
2	Sometimes, women's judgements about men are not accurate Hope it was, at least I would have been able to defend myself in certain states! Hahaha	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/05/20 02:53 PM
2	Sometimes, women's judgements about men are not accurate Eastern Europe though I wouldn't want to share more details due to security reasons. Shit is tough here and I'm planning to leave this place for good.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/05/20 02:51 PM
3	Sometimes, women's judgements about men are not accurate Oh man, I wish I was able to! We do not have such legal right's here - only the state, the organized criminal sector and minor rogues have weaponry. Also, even if you have weaponry, you are basically tied by the law and you can get in trouble if you actually defend yourself. It's a damn mess.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/05/20 02:48 PM
4	Sometimes, women's judgements about men are not accurate Yeah, when you actually try to confront them, people ostracize you and you might get beaten by 5 guys. Both have happened to me so I don't care about all the virtuous stuff being thrown around social media saying 'oh, but people don't actually like them'.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/05/20 02:43 PM
4	Sometimes, women's judgements about men are not accurate Indeed, this is what appears to be the root of the issue, however, what you said is not what is discussed in almost all of the platforms I have been in (some of them were normie platforms, as some here would call them) so I based my post on the premise that we are trying to pin point the exact details of how these things work.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/05/20 02:39 PM
0	Sometimes, women's judgements about men are not accurate Yes, that's basically one of the possible implications I was trying to make from my post. There is certainly the virtue gained from being experienced in judging men but does that lead to so much successful judgements as it is claimed - I doubt it. There is a comment here where the idea is that women actually know these things but have based their judgement on other stuff like looks and how he makes her feel which, tbh, is an interesting take.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/05/20 02:36 PM
0	Sometimes, women's judgements about men are not accurate That's a really interesting take, man! Thanks! I will think more about it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/05/20 01:32 PM
1	Sometimes, women's judgements about men are not accurate I agree, though we can argue and extend the substance part to most of humanity.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/05/20 01:29 PM
1	Sometimes, women's judgements about men are not accurate 'Sometimes, women's judgements are not accurate' I make no claim of a universally true statement in all cases when a woman judges shown by the word sometimes and This is emphasized by what I wrote - people as a whole do not judge other people accurately sometimes.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/05/20 01:27 PM
4	Sometimes, women's judgements about men are not accurate Annoying? Not in the society I live. I'm in Eastern Europe and these types of men act like gods on the streets. People attack and criticize them only on social media while what happens on the ground is completely different.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/05/20 01:25 PM
1	Sometimes, women's judgements about men are not accurate Absolutely, however, I did not mention nice guys intentionally. There is no need for nice guys here. I was talking about actually capable people vs people who are not capable but act as if they are.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/05/20 01:21 PM
2	Sometimes, women's judgements about men are not accurate Yeah, I forgot to mention that I see women who claim to want long-term relationships judge men using SMV and not RMV which does not seem productive. Also, the way relationships also work in my experience is that the idea for a LTR comes later after the initial period of people just wanting to have fun meaning that a woman moves from judging based on SMV but not RMV which could lead to issues.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/05/20 01:11 PM
3	How do you see the relationship futures of young millenials/Gen Z Man, the value thing is so subjective. How can you be sure that what we perceive as value is not actually just a shallow assessment? When I see the guys that get the most success with women, these are the most superficial type of men I know. They act cocky, they pretend to be capable but it is a facade. Actually brave guys, the type that will enter a fight vs 5 men, act completely different ways than the cocky ones. When it comes to capability, whether it is intellectual or material (like mainta…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/05/20 09:26 PM
6	How do you see the relationship futures of young millenials/Gen Z I actually support the idea that stuff like MGTOW is a fringe movement but, tbh, we have no idea how many guys have never heard of mgtow but are basically practicing it in it's different forms or are on the fence. Combine that with the incel guys and the guys that have limited success with relationships. About the limited success, if you have had sex 1-2 at all or 1-2 times per year with massive dry spells, this is absolutely not normal so I bunch these types of men with mgtow and the incels bec…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/05/20 08:59 PM
1	Discussion: Let's hear from the volcels for a change. I became a volcel in high school when I rejected several girls some of whom where really into me as I found out later. I just did not know what relationships encompassed and couldn't be bothered. Things went completely dry for some time as I had several crushing rejections and went through extremely bad mental states. My sex drive almost disappeared during this period. My health worsened. Some time later, I stumbled upon a girl who wanted to be with me. Ironic, due to the fact that I went throug…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/05/20 08:44 PM
1	Do you think Women will notice? In my country (Eastern Europe) some women have noticed and started making posts about how young guys no longer chase them or never act after the women have shown signs that they likes the guys. There have also been posts and discussions about how men that are 25-30 never bother with dating while they are supposed to start thinking about a family according to the current traditions. There is also the "where have all the good men gone" question. All of these are an indication that there is a chang…	/r/MGTOW2	21/05/20 05:31 PM
2	I think I am a worse person after listening to MGTOW youtubers Even though I do not support the idea there is one right way to go MGTOW, there is certainly material that provokes you to have certain emotions. I try to avoid such material. At some point, I realized that there is nothing new so there is little point in watching mgtow videos on YouTube, for example. You just dont see high-level discussions there.	/r/MGTOW2	17/05/20 10:05 PM
1	If—Rudyard Kipling - 1865-1936 Cool text man, thanks!	/r/MGTOW2	16/05/20 10:06 PM
1	You didnt want to go your own way Gatekeepers are attacking you or saying you are confusing mgtow for incels or whatever, however, they are missing something really simple. Yes, most of the times, mgtow is a result of bad experience and dealing with this bad experience by acknowledging that you do not wish to deal with these things (for whatever reason) is, in fact, coping. It's the same thing when engineers simplify the equations (not sure if I should use the term equations tbh) they use due to the fact that the complexity of t…	/r/MGTOW2	14/05/20 10:27 PM
3	The answers incels want to hear when they ask dating questions on MGTOW The condecending tone and the broad generalizations can be seen here, unfortunately. Some of the people who kick these guys while they are lying on the ground will then wonder why there are so many attacks pointed at mgtow. Knowing guys with limited or no success with women irl, it's amazing how there are some who should have never had massive issues to begin with - you have physically and mentally capable, average, above average and even good-looking guys who struggle nowadays. Reasons could be…	/r/MGTOW2	13/05/20 10:15 AM
1	The answers incels want to hear when they ask dating questions on MGTOW Things like 'Incels are lazy' or 'oh, they are just single' are generalizations that are not true if we apply these things to all incels. Unfortunately, there are MGTOW people who do the same things like all the other commoners do - kick these guys while they are on the ground, as if everyone else hasn't been doing that for decades. Then some spend time complaining how MGTOW is being attacked on the same basis as they attack incels by calling them lazy or just in need of some sex. Now, I persona…	/r/MGTOW2	13/05/20 10:10 AM
2	The answers incels want to hear when they ask dating questions on MGTOW This whole thread, despite having some generalizations like the ones for the black pill concept, is quite 'productive' when it comes to the ideas being presented. Thank you for the valuable comments. I will certainly save them!	/r/MGTOW2	13/05/20 09:49 AM
1	Every single time a male removes himself voluntarily from the dating pool (MGTOW), downward pressure is applied to the SMV (Sexual Market Value) of ALL the remaining females - Part 1 In the end, the thing is that we have no data on what the current situation is and we won't be able to know how certain groups will react. I know it is only anecdotal, but we have no idea how many men are actually having success with women, how many pump and dump and how many are going their own way. As far as I've seen and talked with the guys I know, it seems that a large minority of men have no success with women while most of the guys have limited success (having sex 1-2 times a year, stayin…	/r/MGTOW	04/05/20 12:31 PM
1	How can I free myself from being attracted to women? No, it doesn't. Go check out Foreveralone, not all of them are fat incels with neckbeards. There are good looking and capable guys that struggle.	/r/MGTOW2	27/04/20 03:03 PM
2	How can I free myself from being attracted to women? I am actually amazed at how many people here claim that it is not possible. It is - I and many others have done it, however, it is hard, requires a ton of work and guessing. The whole process seems to be complex meaning that you would have to start doing many things and I think it will be different for you. At first, what helped me is that I started practicing hobbies that are extremely unpopular and are not practiced by women. Then, start reading about subjects that are also unpopular. This wil…	/r/MGTOW2	27/04/20 03:01 PM
2	How I beat procrastion and increased my productivity by settting hourly targets. #ProductivityHack Man, that's post was eye-opening. I've been thinking about procrastination during the last months and how it has lead to nowhere. I've worked super hard last year and had several burnouts so it's not like I don't know what it is to work but I shall start using this method!	/r/MGTOW2	22/04/20 02:34 PM
4	Has anyone here basically lost their desire to have sex since going MGTOW? Well, mostly literature that disconnects you from the primitive animalistic parts of being a human. The good thing is that many things can work here - you can check out Posthumanism, transhumanism, stuff about different forms of enlightenment, forms of meditation, stoicism, philosophy of science, logic, metaphysics (or any other complex topics in philosophy). I might not be using the word occult in its more popular meaning but I categorize all of these pursuits as occult as you seek something th…	/r/MGTOW	21/04/20 01:20 PM
12	Has anyone here basically lost their desire to have sex since going MGTOW? I lost it, mostly. There are only a few traces which are fading away but I feel so much better than before. I'd say that the loss of sex drive is one of the best things that has happened to me in the last years. I managed to reach this state due to discipline and occultism (not the ritualistic stuff). It's a hard road and it is uncertain that everyone will reach it.	/r/MGTOW	21/04/20 01:38 AM
2	Drove by a girl today Exactly, culture directs us to think that things like true love exists or that having success with women is an actual sign of useful qualities. Once you sprinkle some just world fallacy, this ideology claims that it's just a matter of time before you find your unicorn.	/r/MGTOW	21/04/20 01:23 AM
7	Drove by a girl today Your post made me think about the idea of going your own way and why I actually love it. I support the idea that the culture we live in is a losing one because it consistently glorifies behaviours that are not supportive of a society striving for sustainable growth. One of the symptoms is the following: The most intelligent people that are good at problem solving I know are constantly getting isolated from society. The ones that have rich or influential families flourish while the ones that come…	/r/MGTOW	20/04/20 09:07 PM
2	Drove by a girl today Thank you! It was a pleasure to read this text! Your style and thoughts remind me about some authors in the sphere of philosophy and history from the 19th and the early 20th century.	/r/MGTOW	20/04/20 08:08 PM
3	Real world (closet) mgtow numbers are actually in the millions right now....similar to beer virus number actually 10 times higher ,since 80% asymptomatics never get tested.There are a lot of successful hyper/ultra successful good looking and good natured males closet mgtows in incognito mode. When it comes to your question, I say: absolutely yes, it is a choice anyone can make and that is one of the qualities of the mgtow philosophy - you can basically get all types of men choosing some form of it, their circumstances and/or qualities are just details. No amount of gatekeeping can argue against the choice of going your own way. Yes, you will get the occasional gatekeeper here and there but the other guys will welcome you warmly! About the contributing, as I understand, mgtow does not…	/r/MGTOW	14/04/20 04:43 AM
2	Real world (closet) mgtow numbers are actually in the millions right now....similar to beer virus number actually 10 times higher ,since 80% asymptomatics never get tested.There are a lot of successful hyper/ultra successful good looking and good natured males closet mgtows in incognito mode. Id say the impact of the different forms of mgtow should be looked in conjunction with the "where have all the good men gone" phenomenon (women consistently being fooled by guys who just want them for sex), the child free lifestyle, wgtow (it exists in different forms, too), forever alone people (still mostly men). The number of mgtow might be low, but changes are in place due to the things I mentioned. . On the quality of the men in mgtow - yes, there are low quality guys that are not desired b…	/r/MGTOW	14/04/20 01:01 AM
22	Real world (closet) mgtow numbers are actually in the millions right now....similar to beer virus number actually 10 times higher ,since 80% asymptomatics never get tested.There are a lot of successful hyper/ultra successful good looking and good natured males closet mgtows in incognito mode. I'm biased but more and more guys start thinking about the red pill, the black pill and how things just don't add up when it comes to what society expects of young men. It's so strange, some years ago, it was truly ideas on the fringes of society. Now, it is something I see more and more often.	/r/MGTOW	13/04/20 07:28 PM
3	At this point, Europe is a lost cause for men. Why does the world hate us so much? It is just bad culture. I'd say that most of the attitudes shown towards nerds are just a part of culture and not really a product of some evolution. Culture can be changed and attitudes towards nerds can be changed, too, though that is not something the ruling elites desire. Keep the capable people isolated and they won't care about society meaning that you are left with mostly the ones that are easy to mold and control.	/r/MGTOW	13/04/20 07:18 PM
1	Do you have MGTOW friends in real life? One by one, the guys I know that are in their 20s have chosen different forms of mgtow. The ones that still chase women tell me - it's not worth it. Also, the guys I talk to tell me the same about their colleagues - more and more guys support this philosophy. I'm aware that I communicate with a relatively closed group of guys, all of whom are not part of popular culture in some way, so my point of view is not diverse but there certainly are changes happening which normal people and the media hav…	/r/MGTOW2	09/04/20 05:01 PM
2	Shell Oil Will Change Its Name To ‘She’ll’ For International Women’s Day At the same time, company employees and shareholders could be using elite prostitutes or even worse but at least the facade will look good.	/r/MGTOW	08/03/20 10:05 AM
2	Book recommendation needed for MGTOW (outside of financial topics) You are absolutely right. After I have read books about Logic, popular culture seems so bad, I can barely stand it. Ive read stuff like 'No more Mr Nice guy' and man, some of these books have really badly constructed arguments as if they were written by a 18 yo in high school.	/r/MGTOW2	22/09/19 09:17 AM
2	Book recommendation needed for MGTOW (outside of financial topics) The Decline of the West - Oswald Spengler. There are two volumes of this philosophical work wherein he presents a metaphysical system of the life cycle of civilizations and tries to prove how the European civilization has been declining since 2-3 centuries (forgot the exact timeframe). What I really like is how objective ths theory is presented - there is no crying about the West. Every Empire comes to a halt and starts declining slowly. As for other stuff, I would really advise reading academic…	/r/MGTOW2	22/09/19 09:09 AM
1	My parents are bitter that I'm not getting married and having kids Hm, I know how it feels. My parents also want me to have children and reacted quite bad when I first told them about my decision. It was some time ago so they might think Ive changed my mind. Im just waiting for the day when this topic is going to come up and they will try to argue how good it will be, how kind and smart man I am and how women would love me. I doubt that anything can change my mind nowadays, especially when I have been thinking about these topics for so long.	/r/MGTOW2	31/08/19 08:03 PM
3	Women don’t prefer jerks, they just despise weakness My experience has shown that it is actually a simple facade of strenght and bravery that women like. The most capable/strong guys I know never show what they can do - at one point you see a guy cheerfully playing folk music with his harmonica and then you see that he is a war veteran that can talk about philosophy. The guys that show strenght arent really reliable but they are the ones women flock to all the time. Its the neighbourhood football hooligans and the average young men who pretend the…	/r/MGTOW	18/08/19 01:27 PM
2	MGTOW is not a reaction to the current political climate, but it is the school of philosophy of freedom and the true female nature. Thats a quality post! Thank you for the insights!	/r/MGTOW	09/08/19 11:04 PM
1	Why do people think MGTOW is the easy way out? They tell me I need to get out of my comfort zone by approaching new woman every day. It can be easy and hard in different situations and points of view. If you go monk mode, as was already said here, the road might be quite hard because you overcome biological desires. If you just avoid long term relationships, you can say its an easy way because you will avoid damage and hardship. But all these dont matter imo. It will be hard for normal people to understand and accept men GTOW so Id say that arguing with them wont lead to much. More people will accept the concept if more and m…	/r/MGTOW2	03/08/19 08:02 PM
3	Bilbo Baggins is mgtow Frodo is, too. He just left for Valinor after the war.	/r/MGTOW	31/07/19 09:02 PM
2	Mgtow & Neoindigenous Living. Man, your posts are pure gold! One day Im going to read absolutely all of them in one go!	/r/MGTOW	31/07/19 08:53 PM
1	Have you been able to turn it off? Damn, I was so thirsty when I was at that age. At least I still had the mgtow mentality...	/r/MGTOW	13/06/19 11:26 PM
1	Since 'romantic love' is essentially a chemical release in our brain, when the FUCK are they going to make a pill that reduces or eliminates it? Thats seems like a great strategy! It required a lot of discipline in my experience and could lead to uneasant thoughts some time after but Id say its a good way to approach auch a situation. Thank you for sharing your method with us!	/r/MGTOW	13/06/19 10:57 PM
5	Is it just me or is reading MGTOW stories from 10, 16 or 20 something year olds, just doesn't feel right. I can not take any of them seriously. Am I judging too much? (by the way I'm over 40 and divorced) Early 20s guy but rejected girls from the age of 15. I dont think I will get anything positive worth fighting for so Ive chosen masturbating. I also try to lower my sex drive which has actually worked - it was super high several years ago but now its definitely lower. I dont even stare at women on the streets anymore like all the normal guys do (ive seen how some of them cant even continue a conversation if they stare at a girl). It seems that slavery to sexual desire leads to being a part of th…	/r/MGTOW	03/04/19 04:27 PM
3	Is it just me or is reading MGTOW stories from 10, 16 or 20 something year olds, just doesn't feel right. I can not take any of them seriously. Am I judging too much? (by the way I'm over 40 and divorced) MGTOW proposes choosing your own path which might differ from anyone else's. You suppose that being over 40 and divorced is a better experience that could lead to MGTOW which conflicts with the ’your own way' part in the concept. Those who claim that playing your role in the system is a better way to understand it fall in the same category as your argument. In my opinion, doing this and continuing the systems existence wont give me any benefits and I do not see a way to change anything so retrea…	/r/MGTOW	03/04/19 04:15 PM
2	Books/Reading Great recommendation! Ive already made a reading list and the plan is to educate myself. University does not satisfy me desire for knowledge at this point so Im trying to read a ton of stuff paralel to the books for uni.	/r/MGTOW	03/04/19 10:58 AM
2	Men 18-30 had biggest decline in sex, with 28% saying no sex over the year, 2X the rate in 1989 of 14%. Young women in same age range report higher rates. I agree. Even being above average doesnt mean success. Ive had 5 girls just from my class that expressed their feelings towards me (two of these girls actually chased me). I was a bit of a MGTOW even back then so I rejected them but thats not the point. My idea is that even with the fact that Im at least above average when it comes to looks, judging by girls' interest, my love life has never worked. I was quite simple back then - I just wanted my relationship to be a safe place where I didnt thi…	/r/MGTOW	31/03/19 07:53 PM
3	Men 18-30 had biggest decline in sex, with 28% saying no sex over the year, 2X the rate in 1989 of 14%. Young women in same age range report higher rates. At this point Im more content to just stay as far away as possible from the current dating sphere and observe what happens to our society. I have been both desired and played by women, Ive had a simp period. Now I go my own way and I dont know what could change my mind. I just cannot look at relationships the same way I did.	/r/MGTOW	31/03/19 07:43 PM
2	Tips for young MGTOWs? Thank you for the answer! I already own it and it is on my list. It seemed that it was one of the more valuable books on the topic.	/r/MGTOW	23/03/19 09:36 PM
3	Tips for young MGTOWs? That has probably been asked many times but Ive never seen recommended books that deal with the topic and arent filled 70 percent with fluff, advertisement of products and very little knowledge. Im reading academic literature that deals with extremely complex topics and most of the popular books on investing seem like low quality popular literature for the masses that gives a false sense of knowledge.	/r/MGTOW	23/03/19 08:50 PM
5	The young men are waking up and avoiding relationships...and the women are losing their minds! Interesting. Im only familiar with the politics and public order of the Middle-Late Republic. Do you have sources for your claims? Id love to learn more!	/r/MGTOW	22/03/19 05:02 PM
2	MGTOW is quite a feminist-friendly thing. I don't know why feminists are so upset about us. Have you noticed how there is so little coverage on the fact that trafficking of women is a great earning bussiness? Nobody talks about prostitution and women of all ages being essentially slaves. Nobody mentions the even worse trafficking of children. The people on top of all of these activities will never get touched by the law because they can buy not only the judicial system, but the executive and the law-making power. As a whole, it seems that these movements generally attack the common men…	/r/MGTOW	09/03/19 05:00 PM
3	In what ways has your masculinity been attacked in your life? The common attack is claims that I am not a real man. Ive also had many times when women say how men arent good for anything. Of course, they will never tell that to their boyfriends or the guys they have crushes on. They will just say that to guys like me because Im normally polite and they probably dont view me as a real man. I once tried to do the mental exercise and categorize myself using the 'real man' term and the result was that Im not really a man in their eyes. Their atacks/assumptions…	/r/MGTOW	09/03/19 04:45 PM
3	Here it is, from the horses mouth. Don’t waste your time on THOTS. Ive only seen some woman in science speaking like this. I doubt this is a woman.	/r/MGTOW	20/02/19 08:58 AM
2	I’m 18, and I don’t think I want to have a future relationship. Just make your own way and take whatever suits you from the concept of MGTOW. Be prepared as you might feel lonely and pressured by society at some points in life. Finding your own purpose is a struggle, thats for sure.	/r/MGTOW	20/02/19 12:45 AM
3	Any good advice for starting investing and trading stocks / buying shares Finding good advice on this subject has been impossible for me. Everything Ive found is just 1-2 meaningless sentences on forums or 1000 page books which can be compressed to 200 pages of useful material.	/r/MGTOW	19/02/19 10:21 PM
1	Introduction As others have sad, the struggle to go your own way is hard. You will be alone (most probably) and will have to make the decisions on your own. I doubt there will be much support from other people (except forums like this one) as a lot of them are already indoctrinated by society's standards. Know that you might get criticized for who you are and what you chose to do. Even the people close to you might try to shame you for your choices. Be prepared. Choose the things you want to use from the con…	/r/MGTOW	19/02/19 10:08 PM
1	Find your Anima or Get a Societal Enema Could you define the so-called inner divine female - how can you prove it exists (not in the empirical way, of course), how it forms, what is its meaning? Im interested in what you wrote and would lile to learn more! I delve into other spheres of the human thought so Id be glad to find sources on this so-called enlightment.	/r/MGTOW	19/02/19 09:43 PM
1	Grateful for MGTOW I agree with you about the fact that we can discuss things more freely than normal. For society most of the topics here are taboos .	/r/MGTOW	17/02/19 01:44 AM
5	The girls at my high schools goal in life is to be a trophy wife Ive added it to my comment as it is super important.	/r/MGTOW	13/02/19 05:11 PM
6	Why you shouldnt get attached. That describes me several years ago. More than 5 girls had interest in me and directly told me they like me but I rejected them all because all of it didnt seem important in the grand scheme of things. I wanted to read, write, strive academically and relationships looked pointless. At some point I started chasing women and all of it was failure. Now, Ive reached a point where I think that current dating is not a good system no matter if it is successful or not and, most importantly, even if you …	/r/MGTOW	13/02/19 05:10 PM
5	The girls at my high schools goal in life is to be a trophy wife Young and even middle aged women in the society I live in always talk how they want to marry some rich arab. Its amazing how they talk about themselves as if they were objects while preaching to the common man how they want to be treated as humans. Ive seen claim that almost all of the women in the world will sell out and whats important is the price. In other words, most of them are prostitues with different prices. Edit: that is true for humans as a whole. It amazes me how they have no problem…	/r/MGTOW	13/02/19 04:54 PM
1	Mgtow & Neoindigenous Living 2 In my country, there are still people who live lives resembling those of village populations from a century ago. Some of them actually started buying more current technology but they have no problem living without it. They are civilized, of course, but living in such a village could be a good stepping stone for further development. What do you think?	/r/MGTOW	13/02/19 01:56 AM
1	Mgtow & Neoindigenous Living 2 I like how you moved away from my pointless rant and went straight to the important things in your post! I wrote my comment just to point this idea out. Now to the point, I really liked your idea about learning the practical things, collecting knowledge and needed skills. I am actually trying to follow this concept - Ive created a reading list with blocks consisting of different broad topics. I also make detailed or semi-detailed notes on all the books I read so I can refresh the knowledge in an…	/r/MGTOW	12/02/19 08:40 PM
1	Recommend books about political ideology to your fellow redpilled man Jordan Peterson cerainly has interesting ideas. The problem with him, though, is that he uses philosophy quite 'freely'. By that I mean that there are several times when people have caught him using sources in a manipulative way (using only cherry-picked quotes and disregarding the other works of an author). He also doesnt seem to show in-depth knowledge about the things he uses to support his ideas. A good example of this is how he freely interprets Godel's Incompleteness theorem. He is definit…	/r/MGTOW	12/02/19 07:59 PM
0	Recommend books about political ideology to your fellow redpilled man Thanks! I will definitely put this book in my list! Im not a supporter of the Austrian Economics school but some of their ideas are interesting and require further reading!	/r/MGTOW	12/02/19 06:28 PM
1	What games do you play these days? Mount and Blade - a sandbox RPG where the player can roleplay as a simple soldier, an aristocrat, a monarch, a trader, a bandit and many more. This game has a Napoleonic Wars multiplayer only DLC which is still played to this day. The game has also formed a great modding community which has made a ton of mods and some of them are like playing a new game.	/r/MGTOW	12/02/19 06:23 PM
2	Mgtow & Neoindigenous Living 2 Interesting read! What I just want to point out is that a grand collapse will most probably bring us to points in time resembling the Era of Industrialization. Reality is that humans will not forget how to create machines and we can still use energy sources and materials known to people in the 19th century. I make this claim for two reasons: we still have a ton of documentation about how the machines back then worked and we have a lot of knowledge about maths, mechanics, chemistry etc. Really go…	/r/MGTOW	12/02/19 06:19 PM
1	Recommend books about political ideology to your fellow redpilled man Oswald Spengler - 'Decline of the West' wherein the author discusses the idea that history is non-linear and evolution in human culture is not neccesarily positive, what the different civilizations were and how we can categorize them. He also talks about the life cycles of those civilizations. I recommend reading into the sphere of Informal and Formal logic. For an introduction in Informal logic Id recommend 'Introduction to Logic' by Harry Gensler. For formal logic 'A Modern Formal Logic Primer…	/r/MGTOW	12/02/19 04:58 PM
62	You know what's great about MGTOW? You are allowed to fail Yeah, according to my experience, I make one mistake and Im no longer allowed to enter the competition for her attention. I keep hearing 'You shouldnt do that, you should do that.' while the other side can simply stay passively and not do anything at all. Id prefer to keep my dignity!	/r/MGTOW	12/02/19 12:26 PM
1	Why is everyone here willing to just give up? NAMALT The problem is that some claim that MGTOW does get more attention by becoming a bit more popular lately which might cause many problems. As you said, we might get crushed - the concept of MGTOW might get torn apart, MGTOW followers might get labeled as the worst possible terrorists, bachelor taxes might get introduced. Id make a bold speculation that MGTOW is going to be stopped at this stage of human civilization. I say that when transhumanism becomes reality, we might see a change in the parad…	/r/MGTOW	10/02/19 10:07 PM
2	Why is everyone here willing to just give up? NAMALT This post is interesting and has made me think about really important things. Beware as all of the following is speculation and might be a long read for some. Even if some organizations emerge their main problem will be the fact that they dont have financial resources, connections, manpower and an ideology that can sway people on its side. Thus they will be easy pray. Not only will they get labeled as the worst possible nazis, they will also get infiltrated. Also, such a movement might cause mas…	/r/MGTOW	10/02/19 09:37 PM
3	What happened to this sub? Unfortunately, a lot of people here (I am also guilty of this) havent went fully MGTOW in the sense that we have abandoned the desire for love and sex. I am trying my best to erase those thoughts but it is hard due to natural desire and societal pressure. Id also say that for me this sub could be seen as just a step in the process of abandoning love. The next steps might be discussing other things in other communities. Whether its hobbies, sports, careers, 'intellectual pursuits', whatever, I th…	/r/MGTOW	10/02/19 09:08 PM
1	Food for thought. Thank you for the post! It is definitely a good read and provides great insights from the perspective of a man like you. Edit: As you said, women dont really need men like you, me and others so thinking about love and sex wont be beneficial to us. People lile me will always lack something to be good enough for the precious attention of a woman. Even if I qualify for some attention, I am so easily replacable that I just start feeling as if Im a cattle or a toy in the hands of others. Id say that …	/r/MGTOW	10/02/19 08:18 PM
1	Most men are betraying cuckolds I was really wondering about the definitions of the man/woman dichotomy. They work when it comes to biology and in a certain social context but some humans have managed to contain their biological desires so calling them men/women isnt really showing the whole picture. For example, you see a MGTOW hermit in his garden in the middle of the wild and you say: 'What is this man doing in the wild?' Does saying he is a man have any meaning? If you saw one of the common bad boy types in a club, saying …	/r/MGTOW	09/02/19 09:43 PM
1	Most men are betraying cuckolds I cannot really claim I am a MGTOW and I will explain why. I rejected several extremely good looking women (and more not that good looking) chasing me years ago. After that I chased several women and failed. Now I started the process of erasing positive thoughts about relationships and love. This has been successful and these concepts have no good things surrounding them in my head. The next thing is to erase the thoughts about sex which is going to be hard. So, why Im not a MGTOW? Because I som…	/r/MGTOW	09/02/19 09:20 PM
4	This App is Better Than All Girlfriends Never thought that such a thing would become reality. Thanks for sharing the app! Ill definitely try it! It looks way more fun that actually trying to chase women and failling.	/r/MGTOW	09/02/19 08:51 PM
3	Great quote from Tolkien It seems that Tolkien hid away interesting insights throughout his works. Thank you for the post! It inspires me to read the chapters where they meet Bombadil again!	/r/MGTOW	09/02/19 06:48 PM
1	come here and drink my royal milk Am I the only one who thinks that women like this are just glorified prostitutes? They do the same things - have sex and expect gaining money or gifts.	/r/MGTOW	09/02/19 06:38 PM
1	New to MGTOW where to start Thanks for the reply! I will surely listen to his videos! Im glad that I found this movement early on!	/r/MGTOW	29/01/19 07:56 PM
1	New to MGTOW where to start What are your opinions on channels like Howard Dare, Sandman?	/r/MGTOW	27/01/19 09:24 PM
1	Why are modern young men so pathetic? What do you think are the main causes? Firstly, I think you dont address the core of the problem. Being metrosexual is feminine not because you have your legs shaved but because peoples opinion about you is based solely on how you look. For example, the same shallow way of thinking is seen with girls and the bad boys. The so-called bad boys act tough and confident when they never put anything in danger. If they risk their life or health they turn back and dont act confident. The problem is that shallow people dont know this. Also, ju…	/r/MGTOW	26/01/19 12:50 PM