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That's the thing. Every time I see all these posts making fun of how stupid women are I can't help but laugh. Because in my experience, 99% of men are even more retarded. I was "lucky" that I realized as a teenager how different my friends started to behave when there were women around. Pretty cool guys started to behave like total dicks just because they wanted to impress girls and shit. And since then I've only confirmed that most men keep being retards for pretty much the rest of their lives.…
/r/MGTOW14/12/16 07:57 PM
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The thing is that I have the impression that the happiest people are the most ignorant. They live in this fantasy where they believe in unconditional love and that their wives love their disgusting beer bellies and are even happy to be slaves from Monday to Friday because they're proud of providing for their families and all that shit. Meanwhile I'm red pilled, I know the way attraction really works, I know there are good evolutionary reasons for it and I'm not even mad. I won't be getting divor…
/r/MGTOW14/12/16 07:48 PM
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I hate working as well. The only reason I'm not a kept man is because I can't find any retard that is willing to pay for my shit. If there are millions of retarded men that are happy to pay for women's shit, they would have to be stupid not to take advantage.
/r/MGTOW14/12/16 07:42 PM
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I just want to know if other men are experiencing this heartbreak with the opposite sex on a macro global level, rather then a micro personal level with a women they know. ? Not really. Whether I'm a slave to more powerful men or I'm a slave to feminists doesn't change anything in my life. My grandfather had to work Monday to Saturday pretty much all day for peanuts and he probably had a dead bedroom with a woman that had to put up with him for survival. So what was so good before feminism anywa…
/r/MGTOW14/12/16 07:33 PM
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Exactly. The future of dating is that the guys that want to dedicate their lives to play video games will do so, but women won't give a fuck because they will be fucking alphas and squeezing beta bucks. It's just human nature. If some men don't want to fuck women, the more reason for the remaining men to go after women (hopefully with fewer competitors).
/r/MGTOW14/12/16 07:24 PM
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According to this sub women are retarded but then it looks like most men fall easily on their trap. And as she said, most men even support it. So maybe women are not the only retarded human beings on this planet after all.
/r/MGTOW14/12/16 06:52 PM
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I wouldn't bet on the guy being the one who said that. I had a girlfriend that would cry and tell me that I didn't love her because after a few months living together I wasn't always in the mood for sex and stuff.
/r/MGTOW13/12/16 07:07 PM
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Because we have evolved to like sex and try to reproduce. That's the only reason the species hasn't died off yet. And people don't like other people that are different, that's why historically people have ridiculed nerds, gays, etc. So, by not chasing pussy you are an anomaly from their point of view of normal people following their natural instincts.
/r/MGTOW13/12/16 07:04 PM
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You can always try and see if you can get a vet to do the same procedure they do on dogs. I think they just take the balls out.
/r/MGTOW12/12/16 07:31 PM
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I understand men are angry and upset about women, but mgtow is about self improvement, that is what attracted to me to it. It is about learning to be happy alone. The only way this can happen is if you learn to get self validation Exactly. What most guys don't seem to understand is that by making constant angry posts about women they are validating them all the time. I don't open posts all the time complaining about things I don't care. When I complain about something it's because I care enough …
/r/MGTOW12/12/16 07:27 PM
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If they don't think it's worth exterminating us, they may just give us a basic income so we can be at home playing video games without causing trouble. In any case, society is not going to break down because most men going their own way are not going to be necessary either for procreation or for labor. All I'm saying is that I don't agree that video applies to MGTOW. Society doesn't have to break down because of some men going their own way. It's pretty much going to be forced as women have more…
/r/MGTOW12/12/16 07:08 PM
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There are only 20% alpha males and 80% of girls will fuck them. How the hell would they produce children to 80% of women. It's impossible in a monogamous society. But that's already changing. Let's suppose the population is 200 people, split equally 100 men and 100 women. If 80% of the men are exterminated because they're not needed anymore, 20% of men may need to fuck 80% of women (the other 20% of women may be the unfuckable). That simply means that 20 men would have to fuck 80 women. That's o…
/r/MGTOW12/12/16 07:02 PM
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eventually it will leave all the women and just a few men, (statistically), to maintain everything. And that may or may not be alright. If the few men can fuck all those women and robots can provide the work that betas used to do, then everything should be fine. No one can know for certain what's going to happen so we can only guess. My guess is that it will be alright because most betas won't be needed. They might leave us alone or exterminate us. That I'm not sure... What I'm sure is that no o…
/r/MGTOW12/12/16 12:32 AM
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you can't pass on being tough or being muscular or anything else that you name. All I know is that there are people that don't work out and are stronger than many people that do work out. There are people that have better physiques because of their genetics. No matter how much you work out your hands or your wrists are not going to get much bigger. That's genetics as far as I know. And I'm pretty sure that tall men are more likely to have tall children than short men. While there are no guaranti…
/r/MGTOW12/12/16 12:23 AM
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Except that society seems to be in a path to not need men as much as it used to. With automation taking over most men are going to end up not producing any value in the next couple of decades at most. And with the decline of monogamous relationships every alpha man will be able to take care of the sexual urges of, say, 5 or 10 women. So I think it's not like men going their own way are going to break down society. Quite the opposite. I think the way society is going, most men are going to be for…
/r/MGTOW11/12/16 10:53 PM
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Except intellectual pursuits can show those things too. And they become attractive when they have something to show for it. Men determined to get strong become attractive once they've been doing it for a while and have a nice body to show for it. Intellectual pursuits become attractive once they create companies and have something to show for it (fame, money...). It's the same thing. Do people even pay attention to wrist width? Come on. Sure, I get how people pay attention to height, but why wou…
/r/MGTOW11/12/16 10:45 PM
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I think for most men we would have to go to the times of monogamy and women out of the workforce so that all men could have one woman each for their whole lives. Personally I would still go my own way because I'd rather be on my own than being stuck with a woman that doesn't like me but is forced to put up with me.
/r/MGTOW11/12/16 08:13 PM
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Actually...no. I've never seen nerds get picked on or beaten up like that. I'm glad you haven't. I haven't been beaten up but I was picked on for a couple of years and I've seen it in others too. Every now and then I see some story in the news about a kid that committed suicide because he couldn't put up with the bullying anymore. It's sad but it happens. The funny thing is, a good body doesn't indicate good genes. It kind of does. For starters, there are things like height or wrist width that y…
/r/MGTOW11/12/16 07:59 PM
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The one thing I don't get though is why you use the word "protection". Like I said in my post, we're not cavemen who have to fight wild animals and defend from other tribes of roving marauders. This is the 21st century. If you live in the first world that's not a concern. I've always lived in the first world (western Europe in particular) and I still was bullied for a couple of years in high school and I couldn't do much about it. From the stereotypes I see in american movies it looks like nerds…
/r/MGTOW11/12/16 05:07 PM
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I honestly don't think they do it bad at all as it is. I know they do this later in life, but why not start early, like in high school and such? There's no reason at all for women to start early. As it is now, they can be with the better men at every stage of life. It wouldn't make sense for them to be with a wimp in high school just because there's a better chance they may make a lot of money in 10 years time. It may or may not happen. Those nerds could as well end up not using their intelligen…
/r/MGTOW11/12/16 03:43 PM
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Yes, great, so what the problem? There's no problem. I was just agreeing with you on that.
/r/MGTOW06/12/16 10:38 PM
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If that's sarcasm you should check out /r/Asexual
/r/MGTOW06/12/16 08:06 PM
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I couldn't care less if women fuck Chads or whoever they want. Most mammals have an alpha that fucks all females and it's not the end of the world. If humans end up like that, so be it.
/r/MGTOW06/12/16 06:55 PM
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I've always thought that masturbation felt better but I thought it was probably just because I had watched too much porn growing up or something. Masturbating could be better if I had some nice tits to play with but other than that it feels pretty awesome.
/r/MGTOW06/12/16 06:41 PM
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Well it is a weakness if your goal is not to reproduced but enjoy life. Yeah, I've always been quite sure I don't want children but I still have these stupid cravings for women's affection. you can fuck them AND NOT MARRY THEM, they are cool with it That's a good point. If a woman is just sexually attracted to you, there's not need for much commitment. Maintaining your independence and freedom to get out of the relationship whenever you've had enough is essential.
/r/MGTOW06/12/16 06:37 PM
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Yeah that's a good point.
/r/MGTOW06/12/16 06:29 PM
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It might be possible to strike it lucky and get a great relationship as long as you keep your legal risks to a minimum and get a vasectomy and regularly tested to ensure it's working as it should. Yeah that seems sensible. I think most of the trouble with women is because men get to a point where they are not able to get out of the relationship at the drop of a hat. Once you're there you're fucked.
/r/MGTOW05/12/16 10:11 PM
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Most of them can't actually. That's why we see so many post-wall women moaning and stocking up on cats and boxed wine. Yeah that's true. But I think that's alright. Women moan because they can't get what they want and then we have men moaning because they can't get pussy or whatever. Life is tough. The same way I'd rather be on my own than put up with an ugly obese woman, I understand women that would rather be on their own than put up with a beta. We might moan about it but at the end of the da…
/r/MGTOW05/12/16 09:01 PM
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This is our weakness and women have evolved to use our weakness against us. It's not that women evolved to use that weakness. It's more that men evolved to have that weakness because it gave their children better survival rate. Probably at some stage a man had a mutation that made him fall in love for her woman and instead of fucking her and then move on, he would stay with her protecting her and their offspring. Because of the man's protection, those children had better survival rate and the mu…
/r/MGTOW05/12/16 08:20 PM
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women should not hold sex as a weapon I agree with that and that's why I say that the good old days of monogamous relationships that most men here seem to miss, were just an illusion. Of course if you impose that women can't work and they all have to marry one man each, pretty much every man is going to get a woman, but that comes at a price. If a woman is forced to be with you regardless of whether she's attracted to you or not, you can't expect her to be willing to have sex with you every day.…
/r/MGTOW05/12/16 08:05 PM
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What makes beta bucks attractive is not their inherent qualities, but their bucks. Yeah that's true for beta bucks. The attractiveness in men is a combination of physical attractiveness, status/money and game/behavior. If your smart you can become attractive (by increasing your status, and also game and looks to a certain point). But if you only make money I agree you can only be a beta bucks. Maybe if you've read this you'll catch my drift a bit better: http://www.goingyourownway.com/mgtow-mgto…
/r/MGTOW05/12/16 07:34 PM
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We've had different experiences. My father is a trucker and when I was younger I hung out with his friends occasionally and in a couple of times we ended up in a brothel and most of these guys were married. I also have a friend that fucked a tourist he met one night out while having a girlfriend and the guys that found out were more like "way to go, stud!". For men fucking around has always been very cheap because they don't get pregnant, so historically cheating has always been relatively commo…
/r/MGTOW05/12/16 06:48 PM
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Yeah, most of the time it looks like I'm dealing with incels rather than men going their own way.
/r/MGTOW05/12/16 06:33 PM
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Women suck at assessing men's worth I don't think they suck that much. Good genes in strong men are can be spotted because you see it right away in that they look strong and healthy. Intelligence is only noticeable if you use it to do something valuable. In the past, intelligent men would add value because they would create tools to hunt more effectively or whatever. In this day and age more intelligent men create companies, make tons of money and both, men and women notice when they become succ…
/r/MGTOW05/12/16 12:28 AM
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Wifely duties were in exchange for resources. The same way husbandly duties were in exchange for pussy. Everyone wants something in return. The good old days of unconditional love never existed. Women had to put up with betas because they didn't have a choice, not because they'd rather be with betas. The same way men don't like to fuck fatties if they can help it, women don't like to fuck unsuccessful men if they can help it. The fact that eggs are more expensive then sperm makes them even more …
/r/MGTOW05/12/16 12:13 AM
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The proof is in front of you. Human beings have evolved from being retarded apes to creating computers, the internet, self driving cars, rockets... If things worked the way you say, throughout evolution our species would have become dumber and dumber and at this point most monkeys would already be smarter than us.
/r/MGTOW05/12/16 12:06 AM
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those who reported spending more than three hours a day tending to their kids had the lowest levels of testosterone of all the groups So the solution is simple. Spend less than three hours a day in such activities, lol.
/r/MGTOW04/12/16 11:54 PM
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That's because that's what we've been SOLD. Women control the sex I don't think we have been sold that. It's a fact that eggs are much much more expensive then sperm. There are very good reasons for women to be much more selective then men. They don't need to sell it, it's just common sense and evolution.
/r/MGTOW04/12/16 11:52 PM
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Men can also cheat and be cheered on by their friends. In fact it's always been well known that many of the men in brothels are married.
/r/MGTOW04/12/16 11:36 PM
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Yeah that's true. But the issue is motivation. I believe there is no stronger motivation than pussy for most men. From my observations, single men that are looking for a partner tend to be more active and take better care of themselves. Without chasing pussy it's easier to become Homer Simpson than a hard working successful man (although there are always exceptions).
/r/MGTOW04/12/16 07:32 PM
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Never getting married is a good thing. But you can still have short term relationships and have fun with women. Check out /r/theredpill if that's something you'd be interested in. At your age you are around your peak in terms of sex drive and it's socially accepted to fool around with no commitment so I'd try to have fun if I were you.
/r/MGTOW04/12/16 06:16 PM
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Debatable. They surely do not choose intelligence. They do. That's why successful men (even if they're not handsome) can get more pussy they can handle. Intelligent men that can't get pussy just from his looks have to work hard to become successful and show they're worth the pussy. The beauty of it is that the whole society enjoys their breakthroughs. And that's why we can have this conversation from thousands of miles away.
/r/MGTOW04/12/16 06:05 PM
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Yeah, that's how pussy magnet works. Men that are not attractive to get pussy have to work hard to gain status and money that eventually leads to pussy. If all men were assigned a nice woman to blow and fuck them every day since they became sexually mature, we would spend our lives sitting in our butts and going to the moon would still be a thing of science fiction.
/r/MGTOW04/12/16 05:58 PM
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That's what happens when you force monogamy on society. As men and women start going their own way (women sharing Chads for sex and the rest of the men fucking hookers or playing video games or whatever), the dead bedrooms should be a thing from the past. The good old days (that so many men seem to miss) of women being loyal to her man were usually hiding lots and lots of dead bedrooms as people were in monogamous relationships because of society pressures rather than physical attraction.
/r/MGTOW04/12/16 05:51 PM
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I think you can't think logically about what women would like in a man, because that would lead you to believe women want a nice man that is always there for them treating them like princesses and all that shit that sounds logical but we all know doesn't work. The reality is that we're animals (very smart monkeys) and sexual attraction has been shaped by evolution for the best genes to spread. You don't choose who you're attracted to (otherwise I'd choose to be attracted to ugly, obese and old w…
/r/MGTOW04/12/16 05:46 PM
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Oh I see what you mean now. But it's just biology. If you think about it, it's perfectly desirable for women to be more selective. Eggs are expensive as hell. If they get pregnant they carry that man's genes for 9 months and then all the years to raise the child. On the other hand sperm is really cheap. If you have a high sex drive you could potentially get over 5 women pregnant every single day. Why be selective if you can fuck all the women around you and you have enough ammunition for all of …
/r/MGTOW04/12/16 05:07 PM
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Kudos to those women, then. I'm not sure I could keep my feet on the ground if most females around me had me in a pedestal.
/r/MGTOW04/12/16 04:56 PM
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My point is that most women don't seem to need men in themselves And most men don't seem to need women in themselves either. Most men want women for pussy and affection, that's pretty much it. But then they get upset if women only want them for protection and resources. most women wouldn't date or even have sex with a man for the sake of it Most women like having sex for the sake of it, but only with the top most attractive males. What they won't do is put up with a beta if they can get the prot…
/r/MGTOW04/12/16 04:55 PM
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And that's not her fault. If I had half the office licking my ass I'd be entitled too. Everyone aims at the best they can get. It's just supply and demand in a way.
/r/MGTOW04/12/16 04:44 PM
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Why do you read PUA sites if they piss you off? They don't piss me off because they don't make any harm to me by pursuing women. I'm going my own way and if there are men that find purpose in increasing their SMV and having sex with many women, that's fine by me. It's understandable as fucking around is in our biology anyway.
/r/MGTOW04/12/16 04:42 PM
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Women used to offer pussy and affection in exchange of safety and resources. Now that they don't need to put up with a beta for protection or resources, they can go their own way and fuck men that actually get them wet and spend their precious eggs with good genes from Chads. And on the other hand some men are also going their own way, playing video games, masturbating or doing whatever they want. We simply don't need each other as much as we used to. Women fucking Chads is how they go their own…
/r/MGTOW04/12/16 04:38 PM
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The thing about the back is that any misalignment in any part of the body needs to be compensated in other parts of the body to maintain balance. So something wrong in your legs can fuck up your back, for instance. You may need to do some specific exercises and stretches for your condition but in the long run you just have to get fit if you want to be healthy. The best way I know to be fit and healthy overall is to do a good routine of bodyweight exercises. Have a look at the routines in "you ar…
/r/MGTOW04/12/16 04:28 PM
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Well, men love to brag about their achievements. It's like the only reason they even tried is so that they can brag about it. At the end of the day we are driven by our evolutionary traits, like monkeys.
/r/MGTOW04/12/16 04:18 PM
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It's funny I saw this as a conversation between a fake MGTOW and a red pill. I see a fake MGTOW that doesn't want to understand why attraction works the way it works and he just wants to be mad at women because they don't want to love them unconditionally regardless of how unattractive or unsuccessful they are. A red pill understands why we evolved this way and finds solutions that embrace the way we are. A true MGTOW understands why we evolved this way and just go their own way because the rewa…
/r/MGTOW04/12/16 01:59 PM
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This is probably a good thing for everyone. As automation keeps taking over most men are not going to be needed in the workforce anyway. I'd be worried if they were turning to drugs as that can lead to violence and insecurity once they start assaulting people to get more money for drugs. But as long as they're content playing video games that's fine. These men won't be needed for procreation, as alpha men can have sex with over ten women each regularly (which is becoming more tolerated in societ…
/r/MGTOW04/12/16 01:46 PM
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And if it was the opposite (the man didn't want the child and she wanted it), you would be moaning about how the evil bitch wants to keep it so that he can get child support raped. In all honesty I think he has a say but it is ultimately her choice as it is her that has to go through the whole pregnancy and give birth. Eggs are so much more expensive than sperm, it's only fair she can have the last word about it. And after reading the story I doubt having a child to a cheating unemployed boyfrie…
/r/MGTOW04/12/16 12:24 PM
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I think you have unrealistic expectations from Christianity. No matter what the Bible says, attraction is not a choice. There are good evolutionary reasons why attraction works the way it works and no matter how christian you are, if you're not attractive you're not going to get women wet, no matter how christian they are. It's biology, not much you can do about it.
/r/MGTOW04/12/16 12:18 PM
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I eventually quit this job and I am in the market for a new position. Why did you quit? You could have stopped working long hours and the works that could have happened is that you lost the job (which you quit anyway so it wouldn't be that bad). In the best case scenario you would have stayed at the job working your normal hours. If they need to go because of their kid you go because you have a date, or guitar lessons, or because Doritos and video games are waiting at home. Whatever. You just go…
/r/MGTOW04/12/16 12:13 PM
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Married at 24. We were sexually incompatible from the get-go There's no wonder things turned out the way they did. He made a huge mistake thinking things would be different in the long term. That's not very smart.
/r/MGTOW04/12/16 12:03 PM
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But this chap looked like he was in his late 40s. His hair had receded and balding, he had a malnourished physique. His posture was someone who was defeated in life. Plenty of single men are balding, have weak physique and bad posture. Especially in this day and age where we we sit on the couch and in front of the computer for so many hours. Some people find purpose in raising their children and some people are better off on their own. It may not be very common, but I know married men with child…
/r/MGTOW04/12/16 11:55 AM
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The woman is a software engineer. That means she works in an office surrounded by lots of virgin incels that would do anything to get a woman to touch them. I'd be surprised if she didn't have high standards. There's no reason for her not to.
/r/MGTOW04/12/16 12:08 AM
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It may be fake but it wouldn't surprise me if it weren't. People respect your opinion and freedom of speech as long as you have the same opinion as they do. It's also a shame the need for most men to appear strong and dominant in front of women. I've met lots of guys that were nice when there were no women around but became assholes when there were women around that they wanted to impress.
/r/MGTOW03/12/16 05:24 PM
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Because once you give up on pussy you don't feel bad about wasting your time anymore (as now you don't have any reason to work on your SMV). If video games and Doritos is what makes you happy that's what you do.
/r/MGTOW03/12/16 05:01 PM
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What did you expect? Why would anyone on an online dating site not choose to fuck an attractive person if they are given the chance? Would you go after the fatties?
/r/MGTOW03/12/16 02:25 PM
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Just do the opposite of /r/nofap I've found that the more I watch porn the more complicated it gets to find videos that turn me on. Eventually normal women stop turning me on because I got used to unrealistic stuff from porn.
/r/MGTOW03/12/16 02:15 PM
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It's all led me to the realization of the following principles: Yeah those are spot on. To be honest the only reason I still show up at work is because I need some money to pay the rent, bills, food and stuff and I can't figure out a way to scale it down. In what I do no one hires part time and the available part time jobs where I live are mostly the ones that pay minimum wage and I couldn't even afford paying the minimum living expenses on those shitty jobs (they're more the kind of jobs studen…
/r/MGTOW30/11/16 08:13 PM
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I guess it depends on how hooked they are and maybe the type of drug. The people I call junkies are the ones that are seriously addicted to some drug that makes them look like zombies. The guys that have a bit too many drinks after work may still function alright as long as they get their shit together when they're working.
/r/MGTOW30/11/16 07:55 PM
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Yeah there are lots of beautiful women in eastern Europe, but keep in mind that their biology is still the same. Although as an american you would be perceived as having a higher status so you can use that to your advantage.
/r/MGTOW30/11/16 07:51 PM
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No way I'd take it back. I was more obsessed with women when I was a virgin. Everyone should experience it at least once in their lives. You need to know what you're missing out on so you can decide for yourself if it's worth it or not.
/r/MGTOW30/11/16 07:45 PM
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Yeah, I agree. The sharing personal stories is good because that way we all get to see the sort of things that can happen if you let your guard down. But there's a lot of whining that true men going their own way wouldn't do, but keep in mind that most people posting are probably going through a phase of anger and they just need to vent.
/r/MGTOW30/11/16 07:41 PM
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There's a difference though. A junkie doesn't do anything productive with their lives. Blue pilled men work hard to get money, status and increase their SMV so they can get some pussy. That ultimately benefits the society as a whole as we all get to enjoy what they produce.
/r/MGTOW30/11/16 07:31 PM
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Yeah it was a generalization. But it seems to me that most men tend to take a lot more care of themselves when they want to get women to like them. Also, we probably have hardwired the desire to take care of our partner and kids. It's like for most people having that responsibility gives purpose to their lives. If you're having a hard time at work or whatever and you don't have a partner and children you may think "why bother putting up with this shit if I can just die and I don't have anyone de…
/r/MGTOW30/11/16 07:13 PM
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Yeah I've come to realize that this sub just attracts a lot of people that need to blow off some steam because of bad experiences with women (divorce raped, incels...) and even if they say a lot of nonsense they just need to get it off their chest and this may be the only place where they can do it. I don't know, I think they will eventually have to leave all the hatred behind and start to truly go their own way, but I guess it's something that can't be forced. They just need to go through that …
/r/MGTOW30/11/16 06:58 PM
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Yeah that's the thing. I can't find in the original post anything regarding how long it took for her to find the next one.
/r/MGTOW30/11/16 06:44 PM
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I'm the same here. It was nice to suck on tits but other than I'm fine with masturbation.
/r/MGTOW30/11/16 06:42 PM
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Makes sense. I guess coming from bad experiences it's understandable some people may need to go through an anger phase on their MGTOW journey.
/r/MGTOW30/11/16 12:11 AM
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I see. I guess this has become an outlet for many people that know they can't do anything to change how attraction works but still need to vent their feelings. That's fair enough.
/r/MGTOW29/11/16 11:26 PM
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Basically, when we start caring about our credibility we slowly become Politically Correct. Well, I what I mean is that if I find this sub and see that it seems to be about a bunch of incels having a tantrum I'm not even going to bother trying to find those pieces of truth (how evolution shaped attraction for men and women and what we should look out for) that is the only thing worth finding here. There's so much nonsense that it is no wonder most people think MGTOW is the same as incels. Most p…
/r/MGTOW29/11/16 11:20 PM
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See, you're still missing our point that we're not as much doing this(posting) for ourselves, as much as being an example or testament to serve as a warning- a continuous warning, a daily warning even as to what can happen to you, and how bad the world is really getting for us. I get that. But you still don't get what I mean. I think it's good that some guys are sharing how they got divorce raped and that kind of stuff. It's good that the rest get to see what can happen when you're blue pilled a…
/r/MGTOW29/11/16 11:05 PM
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I think I get what you mean. If I had been divorce raped or something like that I'd be more bitter towards women. But I just think that exaggerating about women's meanness or stupidity doesn't make the message stronger. The reality is that women like hypergamy, alpha's genes, beta's bucks and other stuff we know. That's all based on facts and I think it's good for men to be informed about the facts. By letting the bitterness take over, some men start talking nonsense about how smart and good men…
/r/MGTOW29/11/16 10:48 PM
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Yeah Europe is quite varied. In Portugal, Spain or Italy they seem to drive much more aggressively than in Ireland or the UK, for instance.
/r/MGTOW29/11/16 10:29 PM
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I don't expect you, as a woman, to relate with or get why hopping back into a relationship is such a big deal to us. We're mixing things here. No one is telling you that you have to hop back into a relationship. You can stay all your life going your own way without moaning about how evil and stupid all women are, while presenting as an example articles on evil things women did that men also do every day. That's really lame and that's the reason most posts from this sub are going to end up in ano…
/r/MGTOW29/11/16 10:19 PM
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Fast doesn't mean aggressive, you chose to equate fast with aggressive because it suits your narrative. Women lose their temper more often and will insult others or initiate dangerous maneuvers, especially in traffic jams. Sorry I replied to the first question and missed this. Well I don't just mean fast. I really mean aggressive as in doing dangerous maneuvers, overtaking with no visibility, honking their horns for no reason (you may not believe this but I've only had men honking their horns at…
/r/MGTOW29/11/16 09:25 PM
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No, that's why I put it between quotes, but I admit it probably wasn't very clear what I meant. I just give my opinions, and because they seem to be against what most people seem to experience in this sub, it always look like I'm defending women. But I seriously think there's a lot of nonsense here. Women more aggressive than men behind the wheel (ok, depending on where you live maybe it might be true, but I've never seen this anywhere). People posting about how evil and stupid women are and the…
/r/MGTOW29/11/16 09:20 PM
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Yeah, and to be honest there's nothing to worry about. Pussy attraction is too strong for most men. I'm pretty sure most men would rather be beta bucks (even if they were well informed about their actual role) than living without pussy (they'd rather commit suicide). And that's fine. It keeps the world moving.
/r/MGTOW29/11/16 09:11 PM
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It doesn't look like a joke. That picture clearly proofs that all women are idiots and there are no stupid men. That's the definitive proof we needed.
/r/MGTOW29/11/16 09:03 PM
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Men in their early twenties and slightly below are aggressive as fuck. If I hadn't read so much nonsense in almost every thread I wouldn't have had to "defend women". But it's just like we live in different universes. The fastest and most aggressive drivers I've ever seen have always been men, and particularly very young men that think they can drive like Lewis Hamilton. I live in Europe, though, maybe in the US women are more aggressive?
/r/MGTOW29/11/16 09:00 PM
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I don't know man... The most aggressive drivers I've ever seen are young men. I don't know if it's the hormones or what but that's what I've always seen.
/r/MGTOW29/11/16 08:36 PM
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If you think I'm a woman I'm fine with that. Anyway, I'm an introvert and I know that I don't want to have children, I don't like to put up with most of the shit in long term relationships but I don't have the attractive to get nice girls easily for FWB or something that would suit me better, so it's pretty clear to me that I may be going my own way. I found this subreddit and I thought it would be a good place to find information about how to cope with some of the things that we have hardwired …
/r/MGTOW29/11/16 08:29 PM
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If it were not for woman, we would have paradise. Or we would still living in caves because without having to compete for women we would live happily sitting in our butts all day.
/r/MGTOW29/11/16 08:09 PM
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The thing is that if they didn't find any men interested they would lower their requirements. So I can only imagine the horniest men out of the 80% of men that can't fuck nice girls because they're all being fucked by Chad, are probably fucking the worst of the worst that is what Chad doesn't even want to touch. So no matter how much you'd enjoy that they didn't get dick, they're probably still getting plenty of dick. Even the ugliest ones.
/r/MGTOW29/11/16 08:06 PM
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How do you take shits? Teabagging the turd? I don't have that issue.
/r/MGTOW29/11/16 08:00 PM
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Yeah men can be accused of false rape and women can actually be raped. It's not like life doesn't have any risks. You can also get stabbed by an evil woman or even an honorable man... But seriously, apart from the obvious risks of being alive, as long as you don't get trapped in a relationship you're alright most of the time. "bitching and moaning" is really just men telling their stories Yeah, but many times it's just articles about a woman that did something evil. As if men didn't do the same …
/r/MGTOW29/11/16 07:54 PM
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Because pussy is the strongest motivation for men to do stuff. The men that give up on finding a nice girlfriend don't have any reason to work or even shower. Playing video games and doritos is all they want to do until they die.
/r/MGTOW29/11/16 07:37 PM
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Sit down for peeing. Problem solved. That's what I do at home (I want to keep it as clean as I can and sitting helps).
/r/MGTOW29/11/16 07:35 PM
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So are you supposed to never love anyone ever again if your partner dies? If she's found someone else, fair played. The man is dead, she's the one that needs to move on.
/r/MGTOW29/11/16 07:33 PM
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Some movies even made me believe that if a spider bit me I'd have super powers. Movies telling crap wouldn't be a problem if our fathers had taught us how the world really works.
/r/MGTOW29/11/16 07:31 PM
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In the internet there are people that enjoy provoking other people. They are called trolls. Some of them are men and some of them are women. A woman trolling MGTOW men doesn't make women more evil than man or anything. This post is simply saying that there was a troll in a thread in reddit. Well, welcome to the internet.
/r/MGTOW29/11/16 07:28 PM
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To be honest all you have to do if you don't want to have any issues with women is: 1) Don't get married 2) Don't have children 3) Maintain your independence so you can get out of a relationship at the drop of a hat (like living on your own or at least having a separate apartment that you own) All those stories of "look how evil women are, this one killed a cat" are just ridiculous. Men and women do evil things all around the world. They cheat, they kill people, they do horrible things regardles…
/r/MGTOW29/11/16 07:20 PM
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My understanding is that many MGTOW are pissed off precisely because they did achieve a degree of professional success and women still don't give a damn about it and prefer the poor but hot fuckboy. Women that don't want to settle down are going to want to fuck hot men (why would they fuck ugly men?). Once they feel the need to settle down they may need a good provider, in which case someone with professional success could be a good option if they can't get the whole package (good looking and su…
/r/MGTOW27/11/16 10:26 PM
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You think it's good that the vast majority of women would rather breed with an athlete than a scientist? I know it's a rather long post, but it really is worth reading. From the post: Women are looking to get the most resource-rich men they can and that’s why we have cell-phones, symphonies and self-driving cars. Guys who didn’t look like Brad Pitt still wanted to find a high quality mate, which meant they needed to bring something other than looks to the table. So they went out and created more…
/r/MGTOW27/11/16 09:46 PM
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We're not talking about "personal choice" Well, abortion is not imposed as far as I'm aware. We were talking about the personal freedom of women to get an abortion and you seem to be talking about something different. Someday, your brain may actually begin functioning That's what I call not respecting other's opinions. But I guess in your eyes I'm the one that doesn't respect. Let's agree to disagree then...
/r/MGTOW27/11/16 02:37 PM
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I would say that you really don't "respect" anything. I just have a different point of view about abortion but I haven't disrespected you. People can have different opinions and that's fine. But no doubt you would VEHEMENTLY object to that. Obviously you don't know me at all. The only reason I haven't got a vasectomy is because I'm not really in the dating scene so the (small, I think) risks of the surgery are not worth it in my current situation. Not only do I not object VEHEMENTLY to steriliza…
/r/MGTOW27/11/16 02:14 PM
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She had a girl from a previous relationship. When we first met, the connection was automatic and the sex was mind blowing. I had no previous relationship experience. Without any previous relationship experience, of course her affection and sex are going to blow your mind. As with any other woman, dating a single mom is going to be all right as long as you: - Don't marry her. - Don't have any children with her. - Are always ready to walk out of the relationship at the drop of a hat (keeping your …
/r/MGTOW27/11/16 02:01 PM
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This really should be pinned at the top of this subreddit. All these dudes moaning about how evil women are because they want to fuck Chads should really read this and understand the biological difference in men and women, why we evolved that way and why it is a good thing. Sure, who wouldn't want to have the unconditional love of a beautiful woman no matter how ugly you are? Yeah and add to that a Ferrari and a nice house with a swimming pool while you are at it. But the world doesn't work that…
/r/MGTOW27/11/16 12:01 PM
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It depends, once the woman hits the wall, if the man stays relatively attractive and healthy enough he can still provide, the chances are she's not going to be able to get any better. If the man behaves like Homer Simpson because he's married and he thinks he doesn't have to take care of himself anymore, then yes, she may be able to find a better man even after hitting the wall, because the husband just made it to easy by not taking care of himself. But it's similar the other way around. If a wo…
/r/MGTOW27/11/16 11:55 AM
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So MGTOW is in my opinion the real RP. I think they overlap in some aspects (such as in understanding the truth about how relationships work and why we evolved to like what we like in the opposite sex), but in my opinion MGTOW and RP have different goals. Sometimes going your own way can make you a better man and that will make you more attractive to females and a better red piller, but it really depends on how you go your own way. For some men their own way is coming home from work and playing …
/r/MGTOW27/11/16 11:47 AM
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Maybe you're catholic or something and I respect that. But to me, abortion is the right choice in so many cases that I can't judge women for not going through with their pregnancy. If anything I think abortion should happen more often. When a woman that shouldn't have children still has them, everyone loses. The child that growing up in the wrong environment, the father that has to pay child support, the society as a whole that has to put up with the antisocial behavior of a child that then beco…
/r/MGTOW27/11/16 11:33 AM
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Going your own way and having sex are not exclusive. I'm not saying you need to do everything within your means to increase your SMV and have sex (that would be the red pill, pretty much). All I'm saying is that for a man attractive enough to get hotties from Tinder without much effort it would most likely be worth it (maybe not for you, and that's fine).
/r/MGTOW27/11/16 01:20 AM
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It's all about risk and reward. Getting hot pussy is still worth the risk for most people. For some people it may not be worth it and I respect that. Although in my experience the ones that say it's not worth the risk or whatever couldn't get hot girls anyway so it sounds lame.
/r/MGTOW27/11/16 01:02 AM
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everyone uses everyone Spot on. Men moan about the crazy bitches and women moan about the bad guys or whatever but in reality everyone is just trying to get what they want. It's the same shit. But you need to be objective to see that.
/r/MGTOW26/11/16 11:19 PM
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Yeah well, I didn't mean physically attractive, but attractive in general. Attractiveness in men is usually about looks, status, money and game. If you don't score high in global attractiveness you're going to trade shit.
/r/MGTOW26/11/16 11:12 PM
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IMO, no woman (or man) is worth bending over backwards for. But what I've seen on PoF is pretty much the same I see every day on the streets. There's a bit of everything.
/r/MGTOW26/11/16 11:07 PM
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Yeah, in the US and the UK there's a real issue with obesity. But still, these are not only the fatties of PoF. They're fat, ugly, disgusting and can't even spell a word right. I've browsed PoF a few times in different locations and women like these are really the worst you can find. There are many good looking women that can spell.
/r/MGTOW26/11/16 10:00 PM
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Learn to cook healthy foods. Make sure you stay organized or you'll become a mess (as no one will complain about your stuff being in the way).
/r/MGTOW26/11/16 09:51 PM
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I think it depends on what exactly he's been telling people. From what I've seen on this subreddit, there seems to be 3 types of MGTOW guys: 1) The ones that realized that women are not divine creatures and are just human beings with their own evolutionary traits. They are aware of how the world actually works and deal with it the way they think it's appropriate to their circumstances (an attractive guy may decide to just go on short term relationships and enjoy being an alpha who doesn't need t…
/r/MGTOW26/11/16 09:45 PM
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That's what Chad's been doing his whole life. If you're not attractive I don't think you're going to trade much though.
/r/MGTOW26/11/16 09:14 PM
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I don't think these are the women most men want to impress. I've you've ever used plenty of fish you would know these are something like the lowest 5% of women on there. The ones that Chad doesn't want to fuck, basically.
/r/MGTOW26/11/16 09:11 PM
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I have to call bullshit on that. And anyone that has ever dealt with salesmen has probably suffered all their lies (this car has super low miles. Just check the odometer). Men and women sometimes use different "weapons" but lots of them do whatever they can to get what they want. I haven't really seen much of a difference between sexes.
/r/MGTOW26/11/16 09:07 PM
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I refuse to join tinder because I have the feeling it would be a waste of time for me. If I had the feeling I could easily get hot chicks on tinder I would flush my principles down the toilet. What I mean is, the hookup culture only sucks if you can't use it to your advantage. Otherwise it's a gold mine. Most people saying tinder sucks is because they can't get pussy on it. If they could, what's not to like?
/r/MGTOW26/11/16 08:58 PM
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I guess women love children as much as men do. For every story of a woman killing her kids or abusing them there's at least another story of a man doing the same shit. I just think some people grew up thinking women were divine creatures and it must be a shock to realize that they are just human beings not really much better or worse than men.
/r/MGTOW26/11/16 08:52 PM
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There may be differences in the way men and women travel but I don't think there is that much of a difference. Women don't travel on their own as much because it's more dangerous for women but they still do. I've lived in several countries and I've met women that moved countries for the same reasons I did. And being from western europe I've met lots and lots of men that travel to either eastern europe, poor asian countries or south america looking for sex.
/r/MGTOW26/11/16 04:25 PM
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Comitting to MGTOW at your age only makes sense if you're truly undateable, in which case you don't really have any other choice. At your age the best you can do is going "The Red Pill". Women's affection feels good, pussy feels good. My only regret is that I didn't get more of it when I was younger and had a higher sex drive. And even though I think getting married or having kids would have been the biggest mistake of my life, I am really grateful I got the chance to experience love and sex. I …
/r/MGTOW26/11/16 02:43 PM
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Thank god there are people that get what going your own way is. Men that despise women are implicitly validating them and those are the men that they laugh at. By being bitter they show that they're just upset they can't have the relationship they'd like with women. Men that simply don't give a fuck and go their own way don't have any reason to despise other human beings because of their gender, race or whatever. I think that's something that more people should understand because despising women…
/r/MGTOW26/11/16 02:25 PM
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That's only if she didn't find him sexually attractive in the first place. Women want both sexual attraction and protection but it's hard to find both so most of them have to settle for a provider that is not really sexually attractive. That's when dead bedrooms happen. But men that thought that they could get sex by being nice and providing are as much as fault as the women that took advantage of it. We're not in a Disney movie. Men need to know how the world works and make a conscious decision…
/r/MGTOW26/11/16 02:13 PM
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Yeah that makes a lot of sense. I guess it's likely that you would end up living together because economically it makes sense to split bills and stuff. Or if you normally spend the night together you may as well live together and rent out your apartment. But yeah, if you're not in a position to walk out of the relationship at the drop of a hat, you're going to be screwed over.
/r/MGTOW25/11/16 07:56 PM
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That's great advice. I'm looking to buy an apartment in the next year or two. After a few years of saving I think I'm in a good position to give a good down payment and stop moving every year depending on the landlord's wishes. I'm not naive enough to think some of you younger guys on here identifying with MgTow will remain single your whole lives This is so true. I've been going my own way for the last couple of years but sometimes the lack of affection from women can get to you. Last year I wa…
/r/MGTOW25/11/16 07:31 PM
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This. If you're tall and wide you're not going to get this shit from men because they know you can kick the crap out of them and for most of them it's not worth the risk. You may still get it from women as some of them may think that you wouldn't fight a woman. But if you're short or look weak men and women are going to do it alike. What's more, probably men would even do it more than women. Add to that that men walking with their girlfriends don't want to look weak in front of them (everyone kn…
/r/MGTOW25/11/16 05:16 PM
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That's bullshit. If they get free drinks it's simply because it's just too easy. If I had hordes of women willing to buy me drinks without having to do anything in return I'd be stupid to spend 100 bucks on a night out if I can have it for free. The main issue I see is that some men are plain stupid. Regardless of your morals, you can't get free drinks from fatties because it's just not going to happen. The chances are she wouldn't buy you a drink right away so having to spend some time with her…
/r/MGTOW25/11/16 11:35 AM
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I think as they become more independent they'd rather enjoy their prime 15 years of SMV and then remain single mothers to Chad's kids than settling for a beta. Of course they will moan because we humans (men and women) always want it all but I'm pretty sure they'll still take enjoying their prime years with Chad over settling for betas without any regrets. In all honesty I'd rather fuck hotties for a decade and then remain single for the rest of my life than settling for an unattractive woman fo…
/r/MGTOW25/11/16 01:20 AM
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Yeah I agree that's exactly what we're moving towards. I don't like it but I understand the reasons behind it. Which is why I can't hate women any more than I can hate a lion for eating an antelope. Life is tough and there are things that you just have to accept because it's no one's fault that they are the way they are. Anyway I believe prostitution and the likes of VR porn are probably going to be enough of an outlet for most men.
/r/MGTOW25/11/16 12:14 AM
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If I had to bet my money I'd say it is like this everywhere. That guy above was spot on. 20% of the most attractive men can short term fuck 90% of women easily. They could even fuck 100% of them easily but they won't because there are women that are too ugly/obese.
/r/MGTOW25/11/16 12:07 AM
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Well, you don't even need to observe any other animals. Just look around and you'll see how women, when they can freely choose (such as college girls) tend to all go for the top alpha men. Again, I don't understand why this is so surprising to so many people. Wouldn't you want to fuck the most attractive mate you could get? Civilization may or may not decay because of this. It may turn out that once betas accept the reality they get more motivated to work hard as they don't have any distractions…
/r/MGTOW24/11/16 11:55 PM
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Most mammals are not monogamous, so it's quite likely that humans didn't use to be monogamous either. If a woman doesn't have society's or other pressures to be monogamous it's only logical that they will want their children to have the best genes they can find. Female lions could easily kill the alpha lion and fuck a beta, but that will never happen because they want to be fucked by the strongest one, which makes a lot of sense to me. If a woman doesn't need to put up with a beta because of soc…
/r/MGTOW24/11/16 09:16 PM
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The only reason things used to be different was because of the society imposed monogamy. Remove that and things go back to the way they had always been. Have you ever seen a documentary about other mammals? In, say, a pack of wolves there's the alpha wolf that fucks all the female wolves because he's the strongest one and that's the way it works for most mammals. Women stopping having sex with betas is what naturally happens if they become free sexually and financially. Would you rather be in a …
/r/MGTOW24/11/16 08:36 PM
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I have to agree with this. That list is full of bullshit.
/r/MGTOW24/11/16 08:30 PM
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It doesn't surprise me. Would you be with someone that seems to have issues with your daughter being of mixed race?
/r/MGTOW24/11/16 07:27 PM
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I can relate to that. I also work in IT and it's great in that it gets me double the median household income where I live, but I hate spending the day in a fucking open plan office where I'm supposed to do concentration intensive tasks. At this point I'm thinking of whether it would be better to suck it up and try to get financial independent at around 55 or fuck off and become a trucker or something where I'm not supposed to be committed to the company at all times, keeping up with all new tech…
/r/MGTOW23/11/16 09:15 PM
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I don't think this has anything to do with men or women to be honest. People in general are naturally inclined to bully weak people. And that's the reason weak boys are bullied at school by either boys or girls (more commonly boys I'd say).
/r/MGTOW23/11/16 07:20 PM
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