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In war time. Women rule over men’s lives. Since the government’s women put in power rule over men’s lives. By definition of men’s forced sacrifice for government rule. If there was no woman’s government rule, men wouldn’t be fighting THAT war. They’d be fighting wars for their own autonomy. Taking out their own trash. Not someone else’s.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 09:43 AM
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I think the constant kidnappings say otherwise 👀
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 09:41 AM
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In war time. Women rule over men’s lives. Since the government’s women put in power rule over men’s lives. By definition of men’s forced sacrifice for government rule. If there was no woman’s government rule, men wouldn’t be fighting THAT war. They’d be fighting wars for their own autonomy. Taking out their own trash. Not someone else’s.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 09:40 AM
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Why does that matter? We still live in a system which mandate men to die so women can rule. That’s matriarchal.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 09:38 AM
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Why does that matter? We still live in a system which mandate men to die so women can rule. That’s matriarchal.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 09:37 AM
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That’s because women couldn’t past the test. There are still no female seals and only one passed test in 2021. It isn’t sexism if I want the person to carry me out of a burning building to be able to sprint with 50kg. Just as it isn’t racist if only 10% of blacks pass my entrance exam but 20% of whites. These tests are colour and sex blind. 100% your capability as an individual is what matters. However forcing one sex into a role is not sex blind and by definition discriminatory and thus oppress…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 09:35 AM
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Or why die at all and not just use the democratic mandate to change the fvcking law like we did with every other discriminatory legislation?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 09:28 AM
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So why not conscript women in the name of feminism? I thought that what liberals wanted, complete equality between the sexes.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 09:26 AM
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So why not change it along with all other laws that were change for egalitarianism?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 09:25 AM
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In war time. Women rule over men’s lives. Since the government’s women put in power rule over men’s lives. By definition of men’s forced sacrifice for government rule. If there was no woman’s government rule, men wouldn’t be fighting THAT war. They’d be fighting wars for their own autonomous government. Taking out their own trash. Not someone else’s. You can say whatever you want about governments be prepared to throw women as cannon fudder. The reality is they are not doing that. Democratic gov…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 09:24 AM
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I agree, evolutionary speaking women shouldn’t vote and should be property of their fathers/husbands. That’s how it’s always been. Men fight wars and kill all men in the tribe. Men take the spoils of war, women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 09:15 AM
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Because the west is not allied with Russia but with Ukraine. It would be like me saying segregation is wrong and then you pointing at all the concentration camps in nazi germany and saying “where’s you criticism of them hypocrite?”
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 09:13 AM
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So why do women now have the right to vote but men don’t have the right to not fight?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 09:08 AM
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And if they were solely choosing them would also be discrimination. What you said is purely subjective. Objectively men are still denied their egalitarian rights as individuals. I could also say tradwives are privileged to not work and be at home with their children, and to an extent I truly believe that. But to FORCE it in someone is objectively oppression, nothing more.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 09:06 AM
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That’s like saying denying black people rights isn’t oppression because in general they’re more violent and criminal and working this way benefits policing,the government and society overall. Your inherent motivations are completely irrelevant. All that matters are that the individual doesn’t receive the rights anyone else does under egalitarianism. In essence he shouldn’t be seen as a man or woman or black or white or gay or whatever in the eyes of the law, he should be seen as an individual. A…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 09:01 AM
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How does this change the fact that the individual man is not oppressed by the draft?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 08:55 AM
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In war time. Women rule over men’s lives. Since the government’s women put in power rule over men’s lives. By definition of men’s forced sacrifice for government rule. If there was no woman’s government rule, men wouldn’t be fighting THAT war. They’d be fighting wars for their own autonomy. Taking out their own trash. Not someone else’s.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 08:54 AM
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Adress his point, how is it beneficial to not send women to war who are not having babies? We could easily write laws saying if your not a mother your subject to the draft. I guarantee we’d see far MORE mothers then.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 08:49 AM
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So where in law are the pros? Because even if I accept culturally there are different positions for women and men, how does that benefit the individual man who sees himself not fitting into this culture? Atleast there is freedom and autonomy within culture. A right to refuse participation. But the draft makes absolutely no exceptions, you have balls you’re in. How is this not robbing the individual man of rights and dignity???
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 08:46 AM
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Then what would you call men being forced to die for it?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 08:40 AM
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How these obvious logical conclusions get downvoted absolutely baffles me
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 08:39 AM
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True equality would mean either no conscription at all or making it apply to everyone. I agree, so why isn’t it that way?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 08:37 AM
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I don’t do anything. But I don’t do anything ACROSS the board. I’m more of a moral anarchist. I believe good in the world will come through me affecting those in my immediate vicinity. Not taking on some public political agendas. I don’t even vote. But feminist activists despise my position. They say the personal is political. They believe in universal morality and frame anyone that doesn’t as deplorable at best. They control the cultural zeitgeist. I’m still part of that culture. I have a right…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 08:34 AM
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Why does that matter? Do I have to witness oppression to point it out?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 08:26 AM
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If he’s representing female interests by being voted in why does it matter? He could be a donkey for all I care. Just as any females can also support the patriarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 08:23 AM
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I honestly think women just don’t care about truth. All they care about is perceived power dynamics. That’s why they can cheat and still be the victim. And all their friends will agree. Atleast when men cheat, we know we got caught red handed. So it doesn’t matter if what she said was true. What matters is that she’s a poor woman. So believe her so that she feels better.
/r/ExRedPill31/03/25 08:21 AM
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I really don’t understand your purpose here. Don’t you believe if women really wanted to get rid of the draft like they wanted their equal rights it would be gone by now? How can you seriously blame it STILL existing solely on men?? I really don’t understand that logic. It’s like you’re admitting the democratic majority of women hold no power whatsoever and every form of emancipation was handed down to them. Please put the hostility aside and explain it to me. I’m honestly really confused.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 08:12 AM
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Their governments are funnelling billions into the war and holding press conferences praising Zelensky everyday. Believe me if women were in anyway oppressed in Ukraine you wouldn’t be able to stop feminists screaming about it. Ukraine is basically the wests protectorate, an extension of our territory
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 09:07 PM
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Name me one law still in effect that advantages men over women. Name one law changed that removes male inequality. (Don’t mention abortion, men can’t even get pregnant)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 09:04 PM
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Amazing. So why hasn’t it been abolished yet? Along with all other discriminatory laws.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 08:59 PM
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That sounds like the sort of thing you should complain to patriarchal leaders about. They’re not patriarchal women hold over 50% of the vote. The leaders represent women interests. I personally am opposed to conscription full stop (or “period”). Then why hasn’t the draft been abolished yet?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 08:57 PM
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We’ve been asking ourselves that question ever since the serpent convinced her she could be greater than good… Probably an accumulation of all 7 deadly sins.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 08:47 PM
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True it was never your problem to fix. But if he really would have married you and broke up because of this, then he’ll be wiser. He‘ll definitely be more guarded and aware with the next girl he gets in. Specially if he’s into rp like you say. May I ask you why you told him then?
/r/ExRedPill30/03/25 07:49 PM
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She doesn’t care about common sense bro, she just want validation for the female condition.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 07:41 PM
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You haven’t heard of the cycle have you? If done correct it should be impossible to get pregnant. Not saying a man isn’t an idiot for cumming inside a random chick but if she were honest, nothing could of happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 07:37 PM
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Maybe then that was the problem. His masculinity was never secure in you. It wasn’t meant to be. And in my experience. Yes. Or atleast he would feel that way toward his sister and other women. In my experience, if you are cruel to one person, you are cruel to all people.
/r/ExRedPill30/03/25 07:24 PM
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Why won’t you engage with my example of the Rolex?
/r/ExRedPill30/03/25 06:14 PM
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If I walk through the ghetto with a Rolex in open sight, is it my fault that it gets stolen? Modern women need to recognise what value their bodies hold to thirsty men. It isn’t all emotional the way men attract thirsty women. That is fact. Also we still don’t know what forced actually means. Empathising and victimhood can only get you so far in this world. I’m trying to be realistic. You say it wasn’t her fault 1000 times, just for 1000 other 15 year old girls to fall victim to the same exact t…
/r/ExRedPill30/03/25 05:41 PM
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You’re just proving his exact point. All he was doing is being honest for the pursuit of truth and everyone vindicates him. Women hate honesty. We all know deep down that being “misogynist” has nothing to do with the ability to get pussy. Infact those who often get the most are precisely those who treat women the worst. But women can’t handle this reality. So they blame “misogyny” for inceldom because it feels better. And what feels better is what feels right in woman world.
/r/ExRedPill30/03/25 03:33 PM
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Because their misogyny is the result of them not being able to get into bed with women.
/r/ExRedPill30/03/25 03:25 PM
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Apart from the trauma. It seems to also just be a flat out question of beliefs. You’re not going to get very far with men like that by questioning sexual “fairness”. We men learn every single day that we have our place in comparison to women have different standards and expectations and will be judged differently. Specially in relationships. How many times has he had to drop everything and come listen to you rant about your day or complaining about what your friend did? Who will literally have t…
/r/ExRedPill30/03/25 01:40 PM
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I understand and you’re completely right. Love should hold nothing against you from the past. Even if you did do something wrong and specially when you didn’t. But I really don’t know enough about the incident, or your relationship in general for the matter of fact, to hold any judgement against him. There are always two sides to each story. But here is probably not even the right place to fully unpack yours. What I can say though going forward is what would make me dismiss or accept a girl with…
/r/ExRedPill30/03/25 01:25 PM
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That’s fine, then find someone who thinks how you think. I was just telling you my opinion, which could be similar to your exes thought process. But I wouldn’t hold a grudge toward people who think differently than you do and just let them be on their way. He is free to construct his own values and beliefs. It seems it wasn’t meant to be.
/r/ExRedPill30/03/25 11:16 AM
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All the downvotes just underline the dynamics you were trying to express. Women are innocent until proven otherwise, men are guilty until proven otherwise. Encouraging all the shady tactics and behaviours in women to distort reality and disassociate from their trauma. Making it hard for people who aren’t blinded by “believe all women” to inevitably trust any of them. The more people defend blank accusations by women the more the divide will grow:(
/r/ExRedPill30/03/25 10:24 AM
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You haven’t really mentioned anything about your SA. SA is a buzzword and is used by women to literally mean anything from asking a second time to literally pinning them down and forcing yourself inside them. I’m not saying it wasn’t intimidating but depending on what happened, it may make him uncomfortable to be with you. And he’s well in his right to be uncomfortable about ANYONE. Just as women dump men all the time when they encounter dangerous situations and the men freeze up leaving the wom…
/r/ExRedPill30/03/25 10:13 AM
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All rights and laws changed since feminism have been in women’s favour yet this one can’t because of 10,000 years of history? Are you serious?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 06:20 PM
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This is a non sequitur. Women hold 50% of voting power, if they happen to vote in male representatives this changes nothing of the fact he represents the FEMALE interests just as much as anyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 06:18 PM
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Ukraine? Where are all the feminists now?? Why have all other laws changed except the ones in favour of men?? Hmmm
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 06:13 PM
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So you just came here to strawman my position. Now that Ive corrected your strawman you divert that I haven’t repeatedly directly supported my premises and thus have no valid argument lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 06:11 PM
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So you WOULD endorse abandonment of mandatory conscription? In other words if there were enough people(and women) like you, democracy should get rid of military conscription altogether? Absolutely no one is obliged to defend the state from external military threats?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 06:07 PM
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12% is the initial draft but the percentage will immediately be extended when necessary. But regardless. This is completely irrelevant. Any reasons are completely irrelevant. What matters is that two dignified individuals come to existence in a certain community, and under this communities egalitarian values both receive equal rights, autonomy and authority in governance, as a birthright. It is completely irrelevant what the community stands to gain from one biologically over the other, his equa…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 06:03 PM
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Women make decisions innocent men will HAVE to suffer and die for.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 05:50 PM
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This is purely an ad hominem. Moderators please delete.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 05:47 PM
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When have you seen one liberal voice their opinion against ukraines recruitment of boys and men? When individually pressured sure they’ll say “no conscription, world peace ✌️ “. But they haven’t got a clue what they are talking about and also don’t care that they don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 05:46 PM
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Yes and so was exclusively male voting rights. That’s been changed since a century, why not the other? It’s pure cope to blame this on men again.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 05:42 PM
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It’s honestly sickeningly embarrassing and reveals the true extent of solipsism behind any feminist activist who stays silent. They don’t care about universal oppression and liberty, they just care about what their class(women) has to gain. Framing themselves as egalitarian freedom fighters just emphasises how truly oppressive the western feminist movement is. At least if they would admit it’s a purely selfish movement and they are advocating for female supremacy not egalitarianism their silence…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 05:40 PM
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We live in a system where women draw all the benefits without any of the military obligations. In other words women make 50% of all choices yet are responsible for 0% of all outcomes. What if it were 75%? What if it were 99%? Men must be willing to die for the outcomes of their governments choices while only being at maximum an equal force in deciding their governments course of action. In reality every man is fighting for 50% of his relative authority compared to burden of responsibility. The o…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 05:17 PM
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Both men and women have equal say in the system (usually there are just slightly more women). So even if men did create that system, it is irrelevant, since women benefit just as much and are just as responsible for what the system currently is.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 05:09 PM
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It’s still a minority and women are more violent, just not criminally (recorded).
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 01:18 PM
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I don’t need to date anyone. Dating is for sex addicts.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 12:41 PM
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I never said accountability shouldn’t exit because of women I’m just saying men aren’t the primary perpetrators in these secenarios. Big difference. Your original point was to point out where men were despicable instead of women I was just pointing out that adjacent women were more despicable. Take for example murder and rape, I agree it’s wrong. But it’s a minority and I still think woman are FAR more cruel when given the opportunity. So it both doesn’t represent the majority of men and women a…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 12:40 PM
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Tell me where men should be accountable absent women. Do women not constantly lie ? Do women not constantly nag and control their boyfriends? Men are logical, we are perfectly easy to get along with. The key is get along and not worship your ego.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 12:05 PM
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But it’s true, women lie like they blow their nose.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 12:00 PM
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Why should it matter if she cheats now?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 09:13 AM
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So first off you’re basically arguing against your own point. With your logic any women that let’s herself be lied to to have unprotected sex must be pro choice since anything else would be retarded. Second, I’m willing to put money on the fact the man who lied about his sperm absolutely knew you were a pro choice liberal Thirdly your still acting like a morning after pill doesn’t exist, which not an unsubstantial amount of women use as primary birth control. Lastly, the point isn’t what you ris…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 07:52 AM
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Because women are devious. Even the ones that want to sleep with you and have relationships with you. Many absolutely would take single motherhood from a charming man’s sperm if that’s all they got. Absolutely no doubt. And they have no guilt whatsoever lieing to achieve this. Women have no honour.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 07:40 AM
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She won’t, but he won’t take it with him since you said any man who does do is truly cooked
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 07:32 AM
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What about that? Yes it’s tragic. And you continue to prove our point. Your gaslighting for reasons of how undesirable it is and thus unlikely just for naiv me to walk into an open blade😂 I pray for your sons.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 07:30 AM
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If she’d poke holes in condoms why wouldn’t she steal fresh semen out the garbage can?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 07:24 AM
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Ofcourse it’s less risky people successfully implement the pull out method all the time. Not to mention the morning after pill if things do go wrong. And are you pro choice? Because you’d have no right to equate conception with getting a baby. That’s like equating abortion to infanticide. There are tons of steps between busting a nut raw and actual child birth, where as a cunning women literally only needs one orgasm on one night to turn a man and his child’s life into a living hell.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 07:22 AM
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But that’s precisely the problem, most of us do trust women. And it’s not just out of nowhere but because women convince us we should be able to trust them. You’re even doing it now, by getting jizz out of condoms is “cooked” paranoia. Until one man does take your advise and is then cooked. Just for you to then continue to avoid accountability and gaslight him it’s his on fault for taking your advice or whatever. Or that you told him to take his own condom lol. You woman live in delusion and pul…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 07:17 AM
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It may be silly but it still is despicable women do it. And that should be pointed out, also to avoid more being silly. And while I don’t agree with dudes like that, there is still a substantial difference in deceiving to get better sex than actually fucking trying to steal a baby from someone and coerce them into lifelong marriage or child support. Risking pregnancy and intentionally getting a child are not the same level.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 07:10 AM
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We learnt that from you. Lie/pander to another person’s ego to get what you want and convince yourself it was to boost their self esteem and build connection. Meh. Can’t really speak for peoples relationships, but while I generally do think loyalty is noble women have none of it. And I generally believe any relationship party should be able to get up and walk out anytime without any guilt whatsoever. 3.Again, lieing we learnt from those that do it best. If men loved honesty, we could never love …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 07:02 AM
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You’re missing the point. The problem isn’t getting a baby. Shit happens in life. The problem is LIEING to get a baby. It would be like me saying car crashes happen, just stop ridding cars if you don’t want. Then going street racing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 06:40 AM
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How do men act despicable all the time?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 06:35 AM
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Most of us men are too naive. We’d never dream a woman we liked and that liked us back could do such a thing. Which is why the red pill has so much momentum. Men are waking up. Women are despicable. Women you once considered ride or die will turn in a heartbeat.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 06:26 AM
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She lies so you assume both of you DONT want a baby. Hence it must have been gods will.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 06:21 AM
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Never mind his stats. Do you personally believe this is not often enough the case to cause concern?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 06:19 AM

That you are the oppressor, not the oppressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 06:07 AM

Well then you literally fail to explain why women still are purely emotional beings. Because that is what I claimed. Not that they just express them more. But you’ll never concede to this. Just see men who don’t act emotionally like you as consumed by the pAtRiaRchY. You can’t win with a feminist, oppression makes her right by default. And the men that do act emotionally are setup to do so by women like you so they can feel equal. You’re right, the inherent power of socialisation lies in breakin…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 06:05 AM

HOW is it a fact that gender essentialism doesn’t exist because if socialisation???
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 11:18 PM

As the logical gender I see through your facade and understand that the “socialisation” rhetoric is a way for you to gaslight your way into all authority and out of all accountability. Grow up. Take responsibility for your individual actions and let men who are better than you, carry on being men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 10:52 PM

How is it better for the children if the malicious wife is in full control? Nothing happens without her approval and if it’s approved it’s for her relationship to the children not mine. The relationship which turns the kids against me. You can’t win and thus the kids can’t win.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 10:12 PM

No man comes home from work and thinks, let me beat my wife. But most women try to control their husband’s, and if not destroy him. Abusive relationships don’t happen overnight, in most cases he was abusive far before any kids were around. And she stuck by him, it’s got nothing to do with the kids. She loves the power she has over his emotions. And what the court gonna do? Give him every second weekend at best and a ton of money her way. She won’t let him see the kids as agreed, she’ll turn the …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 10:09 PM
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You said he’s reaching out to you 🤨
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 08:56 PM
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He’s trying to show it now isn’t he
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 08:46 PM
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But how do you KNOW he never gave a shit about you?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 08:41 PM
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But you’re not taking them at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 08:33 PM
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You think it’s that easy to take away a child from its mother? And if you can’t take it away wouldn’t your efforts be in vain, potentially causing the child to experience far more abuse?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 08:31 PM
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So what if I told you the mother was beat?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 08:28 PM
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Would you say the same if a mother you knew nothing about, abandoned her husband and child you knew nothing about?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 08:26 PM
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How do you know he never gave a shit about you?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 08:19 PM

So what makes you believe you opinion on these dynamic are valid and mine are bs? Let me guess. You are a woman. Speak of the devil.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 08:12 PM
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i never said otherwise I was speaking on “ideologies consist of beliefs though” Well I would consider it commonsense evidence that men are from Mars and woman are from Venus. Then why on earth were those 11 verses written? It would seem Eminem lyrics have more meaning than bible verses in your opinion of the bible
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 08:11 PM

What do you think of this? https://youtu.be/2Jmkg3nXM0M?si=hwRLya82NpOF6vwf
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 08:05 PM

If the mother of my children is set out to turn my children against me even at their expense, undermine me every chance she gets and make my life a living hell, how am I helping anyone by just be there to suffer and be humiliated while any sympathy of my children will result in them bearing the brunt aswell?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 08:01 PM

Women work through sympathy and validation. They thrive on this.Men that are taught sympathy as a universal rule are just taught to be simps. They give in their relationships (to friends and lovers) but do not actually like anyone. This leads to them being unfulfilled and their counterparts also not receiving any genuine friendship what so ever. A complete disaster for their social lives until they happen to realise it. This is just one example of many. Men groomed into a woman’s set of values a…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 07:57 PM

Let me put it this way, the kids are fatherless because the mother is impossible to deal with. If the house is burning what point is there in running into flames to save my belongings ?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 07:49 PM

The mothers assume their needs growing up map onto her needs growing up I.e. that of a girl. It’s as if a cow was raising a wolf. It would teach it to graze not to hunt. No one is to blame. The cow can’t know any better.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 07:47 PM

Honest question if most men who left were presented with the choice of full custody or abandonment, which do you think they’d choose? Just because women are physically inferior to men doesn’t mean that can’t orchestrate just as tyrannical relationship dynamics.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 07:44 PM

No one is as scary as a mother can be. Men are logical, women are emotional. Kids replicate their environment. So, yes, when you build on logic rather than emotion you have a secure foundation to produce good outcomes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 07:40 PM

Men don’t abandon kids they abandon mothers
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 07:36 PM

There’s a difference between shaming and telling the truth. In the latter it makes perfect sense for promiscuous men to be altruistic and advise women to avoid their lifestyle. Just as a drug addict can advise against drug use. Just because women don’t heed his adivice doesn’t mean he’s a hypocrite, for multiple reasons. One of which is that not everyone may make it to the top. Who says we should all end up in marriages that last and live happy ever after. Maybe some women are born sluts.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 07:22 PM
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I never said otherwise. How can you prove any perception apart from your own? If redpill is ideology because it can’t be objectively proven, then so is your belief in anyone else. So let me get this straight, your takeaway from the 11 verses I just gave you is that wives and husbands have perfectly equal responsibility to another and domain over one another?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 07:14 PM
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Beliefs are about what is, ideologies are about how things should be. What else is reality other than perception? … I leave you with this: Ephesians 5:22-33 KJV 22 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord. 23 For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body. 24 Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing. 25 Husbands, love your wives, even as C…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 06:21 PM
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If that were true you wouldn’t be so obsessed with the “cult”
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 06:03 PM
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You only use biology to describe redpill though, does that mean radical feminists think differences are exclusively based on socialisation? Or that they are inherent to one’s biological sex? And yes I understand, although technically I would still consider any reality opposing mainstream framework of reality red pill, I understand when multiple such realities opposing eachother come into play it would make sense to create multiple pilles. Though this is the first time I’ve heard of a radical fem…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 06:02 PM
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Your views on gender equality are a simulation.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 04:23 PM
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The blue pill position though is that origin(maybe) health education context all count for something, biological gender (apart from indirectly through socialisation) does not though.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 04:18 PM
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The idea of morality or good and bad in general is a assessment if the human condition and how humans should be(or things should be). If you don’t differentiate between man and women you project this assessment on everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 04:00 PM
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So are they different psychologically?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 03:57 PM

Do male lions who defeat contenders not “deserve” the pride?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 03:49 PM
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They do see humanity as monolithic
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 03:48 PM
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How do redpillers think like the majority of people? The average person in the west is a feminist through and through. He essentially sees no differently a random man he encounters than a random woman .
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 03:44 PM

Science is observation. And you can’t observe any consciousness but you own. If we build on observation alone, yes it would seem very much like promiscuous women deserve worse. When has it ever been otherwise? It would seem that way just as we observe male lions fight eachother and the winner enjoys the whole pride.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 03:40 PM

Science is observation. And you can’t observe any consciousness but you own. If we build on observation alone, yes it would seem very much like promiscuous women deserve worse. When has it ever been otherwise? It would seem that way just as we observe male lions fight eachother and the winner enjoys the whole pride.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 03:40 PM
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Well then the matrix must really be out to get us because I sure as hell didn’t downvote anything 😂 I never downvote comments and always appreciate other opinions even if they are batshit crazy. Then let me clarify, redpill stands for people who believe they have found truth contrary to the belief matrix of the masses. It Isn’t a guarantee of anything. Side note: there’s a theory that the world outside the matrix in the movie the matrix is just another matrix to satisfy the human urge for truth.…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 02:57 PM
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If you conflate the two you create a system where anybody who doesn’t believe in the status quo is automatically ostracised and demonised. In a sense precisely what bluepillers fear redpillers doing, in creating a monolith out of women, IS what blue pillers are doing to red pillers.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 12:51 PM
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Just as much as I believe millions and millions of free citizens expressing their autonomy and voting for nazis is good.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 12:47 PM
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But that’s the point, in its literal definition it’s not about ideology but about reality. IMO this is why rp gets so much hate because blue Pillers believe anyone who opposes them automatically wants to subject them to their preferred “misogynistic” worldview and destroy freedom and equal rights. When in actuality ALL it means is I don’t believe women and men are the same. Any ideologies built on that aren’t rp per say but personal ideas or values of a redpiller (and his following)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 12:45 PM
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It’s a metaphor for the matrix, not a literal representation of the matrix. In this one instance of sexual relations does the metaphor apply, in no way does it mean the masses must always be wrong. I don’t literally think I’m neo breaking ALL of reality. And when it comes to agreeing with beliefs, the metaphor for a shared reality, how can you not be binary? You either agree with it or you don’t. You don’t have to like it, but this is what the pill means by definition. This bluepilled “everyone …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 12:21 PM

How can we objectively prove anything about anyone. For all we know we could be in a video game.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 12:03 PM

It’s an opinion on objective truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 11:51 AM
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But which is true when it comes to gender essentialism? Because both would be a contradiction.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 11:49 AM
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That’s the perspective of the matrix. “Do you think that’s air you’re breathing now?”
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 11:48 AM
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The gender inequality of biology, not politics culture or socialisation. This makes it a perspective of objective reality, not a belief in certain ideology.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 11:44 AM
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You may be right that other beliefs have more infighting or variety or whatever but that isn’t the point. Red pill literally just means you don’t agree that women and men are the same, that in itself has nothing to do with ideology. That is reality. Ideology builds on reality of course. If radical feminists believe women and men are the same they are by definition bluepilled. They are part of the matrix, it doesn’t matter how much they fight others if it’s still within the matrix. If however the…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 11:42 AM
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It’s not about Ideologies per say it’s about beliefs, it’s about reality. Let’s say we both agree people are good but I’m a communist and you’re a capitalist. We share the same belief but have different strategies to cope with it. Let’s say I believe people are bad and you believe they are good, now we have a fundamentally different reality. That is the binary of redpill, the binary of being part of the matrix or excluded from it, either you agree biologically different women and men are psychol…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 11:29 AM

Not a man who gives the women value who he sleeps with
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 11:11 AM
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It isn’t virtue signalling to emphasise good just because it doesn’t always work. Fathers will always be important for a functioning household regardless of what bad fathers you can find.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 11:09 AM
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So what do you consider your blue pill takes? And all feminists consider themselves oppressed. So I guess when you’re oppressed, wiping your own bum is an achievement.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 09:47 PM
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I can get behind that. You’re redpill but you enjoy the prospect of a bluepilled society. Similar to how casual sex has never been easier than in a blue pilled society so red pilled Chad is probably having a field day out there if that’s what he’s into. But I disagree as to cuddling is what makes women unindependent or self confident. No such thing as a strong women. They will always want sympathy and validation over solutions, regardless of what they’ve been through.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 09:41 PM
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I think we need to come back to neo breaking the matrix. The pill isn’t about disagreements on who has it better or acknowledgment of privileges, but a fundamental understanding of how the framework of the world actually works. In this case the dating world. It may drift off into superficialities to give examples and undermine positions, but these are just extensions of core contradictions in beliefs. Deeper than morality even, it’s about wtf is actually going on in her or his mind. Which is ext…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 09:12 PM
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In a sense the only real equality comes from a culture that addresses the needs and expectations of the sexes individually. Otherwise one (probably crazy feminism) will always dominate the other in the name of “hUmANitArIanIsM”
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 09:00 PM
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Exactly, but women don’t see it this way so they think society is just geared toward good people. Where as redpillers recognise you can never gear society to a one size fits all when it comes to biological sex. The cultural standards will either advantage one sex or the other,an egalitarian support for fundamentally different archetypes is a contradiction. Cultural equality is delusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 08:53 PM
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That’s fine. I’m not arguing for any ridged rules or cultural norms people must feel obliged to stick to. I’m just saying redpill is to accept the reality, biologically different women and men are also psychologically different women and men. Apples and carrots let’s say. Doesn’t mean you can’t use carrots for dessert and apples for the gravy. But you should still have respect for the differences when constructing your recipe.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 08:43 PM
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A very beautiful story but the fact of the matter is the relationship did not last. The proof is in the pudding. If it were true love you had for her personality and she for yours there would be no reason in the world for it to end. I’m not saying her personality didn’t triumph over her looks by any means, I’m just saying it wasn’t true love you had for her personality but probably something like she stroked your ego the way no one else ever had. Specially when I hear months of online talking wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 08:34 PM
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Ofcourse it does. But the ultimate question is, can we ever get to the place of complete gender egalitarianism on the sexual/relationship marketplace? If your/the answer is no, then you are redpilled(before it was called that), and anybody bluepilled is committing relationship suicide in the short or long term.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 08:17 PM
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That is one version of redpill I agree(and it works for incels in getting atleast SOME pussy). But this has nothing to do with the fact that it is still a complete binary, you are either blue pilled, or have become red pilled.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 08:03 PM
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There is no ideal redpill relationship. That’s like saying what’s the ideal democratic country. Every individual is free to construct their own relationship, the point of redpill is that this starts from a place of truth, not lies. For example the body count discussion. Nobody in redpill actually has a problem with promiscuous women. Sleep with a new guy every single day if that’s what you wish for your life. Redpill just tells you the truth that if you do this, you shouldn’t expect to get treat…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 06:55 PM
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Yes, and democracy lead to nazism and the holocaust. Let’s give up all our values, since values can be corrupted. Let’s turn society into a literal pigsty.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 02:35 PM
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So you think unwanted pregnancies are the result of men willingly and knowingly ejaculating in and impregnating women?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 12:49 PM
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You don’t choose where you ejaculate. You choose with whom you have sex. Ejaculation is a natural process of sex. Both men and women equally choose to have sex. If this wasn’t the case there would be no need for this discussion. Choosing to ejaculate into an unwanted pregnancy is an oxymoron. If he chose to risk it, other than rape, she accepted the risk of him shooting off inside her aswell. That is what consent means. It’s illogical to make both responsible if consensual sex, but only one resp…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 12:15 PM
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And he has to work to pay child support. He should have the final say of what happens to his body. Ho can you not see how this is hypocritical? Consent was your incentive for taking away a man’s autonomy, how can you not apply the same metric to a woman? Both can easily avoid this if they deem the consequences to much of a burden, but to relieve themselves of responsibility in hindsight is what is demonised. Yet only for men, on the left.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 11:54 AM
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I could ask the same for women. Apart from rape, both know when they’re risking impregnation. Yet women’s autonomy is still prioritised after mens is not. If men are not slaves. Then neither are women when they are denied abortion access or no fault divorces.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 11:15 AM
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Because any women could be Madonna, but not every man can be Chad. For women being disadvantaged was their decision. For men being disadvantaged is their reality. It’s like saying what the difference between a guy with face tats and a black guy being discriminated against for a job opportunity.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 09:42 AM
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It’s because they don’t think that the mother has to do anything except give up her monopoly on authority over the kids. She can either abort/give up for adoption, or decide to get full/majority custody later when they split up. For men no such autonomy exists. The moment the embryo comes to existence the family matriarch also does. Men become her personal slave because they busted a nut at the wrong moment. That’s what they are freeing themselves from, not responsibility for children. 99% of fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 09:28 AM
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See what I mean, your question is completely rhetorical. You’ve already 100% made up your mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 02:04 AM
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The difference is male sexual desire is rooted in sex. Women’s sexual desire is rooted in admiration. It’s not the expression but the admission of reducing a person to a sex object that is instinctively frowned upon. When a woman expresses her wishes, she setting the foundation for some sought of relationship. When a man expresses his, he’s setting the requirements for his arousal. It’s the epitome of superficiality.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 10:52 PM
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The only catch 22 is if you answer this question correctly all men will be deemed misogynists, and if you have no answer, well, all men are misogynists.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 10:44 PM
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