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| 1 | I have a very independent and strong mother, but she has the most interesting view on women's rights and feminists, and male rights for that matter.His mom made herself sound like an idiot for saying that. Oh yea, being a secretary (a severely underpaid job set aside for women in the business world), and professors (the people that teach our generations), is all "stupid shit." | /r/MensRights | 23/03/12 02:09 PM |
| 3 | I have a very independent and strong mother, but she has the most interesting view on women's rights and feminists, and male rights for that matter.It's great that your mom has never felt these pressures, but it's also making her points very one dimensional and short sighted. She's also over generalizing Femism (as in simplifying it to Radical Feminism) without taking into consideration all the other work that is done "in the real world" -- abortion/health care reform, planned parenthood, rape victims/slut shaming, etc...and i'm not even going to get started on this whole professors "not being in the real world" bull crap...I'm sorry, but t… | /r/MensRights | 22/03/12 03:17 PM |
| 1 | Mother uses child support money only to buy 500$ shoes for herself [Facebook]Realize that now. The full thread was blocked from me viewing on my work computer, so I just assumed that r/mensrights wasn't exaggerating anything. Clearly I was wrong though; the thread of this title is misleading. | /r/MensRights | 16/03/12 10:56 PM |
| 1 | Mother uses child support money only to buy 500$ shoes for herself [Facebook]you used the example of a father spending cash in a wastefull way as a justification, i personally find both abhorrent and yes even if she spent 500 or 1000 on her kid she doesnt qualify for a refund through CHILD support payments I guess we won't see eye to this than. I didn't agree with the way that this woman was (fantasizing) about spending the money (if you read the thread closer, she hasn't actually bought any shoes (yet))...My bad for not realizing that r/mensrights is promoting something… | /r/MensRights | 16/03/12 10:16 PM |
| 1 | Mother uses child support money only to buy 500$ shoes for herself [Facebook]Who says that this child is suffering? I never went there. And I didn't disagree with you, either. It's child support, yes, but the person paying it isn't allowed to dicate what a single mother actually spends it on (which is what the real problem is here...not shoes). If the mother is the kids sole provider, she could argue that over the past year she spent $500 in clothes and food for the kid, so she was treating herself instead. Is that still fucked up? Yeah, shes obviously an idiot. Will 4ch… | /r/MensRights | 16/03/12 08:29 PM |
| 1 | Mother uses child support money only to buy 500$ shoes for herself [Facebook]Yep, a savings account is allowed, but not mandatory. Anything that can directly or indirectly benefit the child is what the money is supposed to be used for...this mother is obviously a dumbass though for buying something so outlandish. Maybe she will be forced to have her checks audited now or something. Sorry for your loss. | /r/MensRights | 16/03/12 08:19 PM |
| 0 | Mother uses child support money only to buy 500$ shoes for herself [Facebook]Yes and I don't disagree with you that it's for the childs well being. I'm not trying to justify but rather explain that it's not literally stealing because the checks are not technically the childs. Checks like this are made out to the parent and meant to be spent as they see fit. What she did is obviously a rediculous way to spend money, but again it's technically not stealing. If anything, she will probably just say that she got a big tax return (as it is that time of the year), so she just h… | /r/MensRights | 16/03/12 07:36 PM |
| 2 | Mother uses child support money only to buy 500$ shoes for herself [Facebook]The money being "the childs" is debateable. It is up to the parent to spend that type of money as they see fit. I was raised by a single father until I was 8 years old (due to him being widowed), and he got a good sum of government money every month (even though he already had a pretty good job to pay all our bills (widows comp is different than welfare))...technically, yes, it was supposed to be spent on my brother and I every month (and I know that a lot of it was, of course), but I also know … | /r/MensRights | 16/03/12 07:14 PM |
| 1 | Mother uses child support money only to buy 500$ shoes for herself [Facebook]Yes, obviously it's wrong. But it just gets annoying sometimes how much r/mensrighits takes individual, extreme cases of women behaving badly and then it gets the top votes. It also invites wonderful comments that I see like "what a stupid cunt whore....what a bitch", etc, etc. I would much rather see articles about what can be done to reform the overall system itself. This is exatly why people get the impression that those in r/mensrights are bitter and angry at women in general. | /r/MensRights | 16/03/12 06:32 PM |
| 2 | Men are raped more than womenThe number of men raped in prison is similar, not greater. But then you have to add in all the men who don't report being raped to the police or on criminal surveys. I think you are understanding the statistics of the original thread wrong. The comparison is BS. Those numbers ARE the estimated total number of male rapes in prisons (they are tallying in the 'unreported' figure too)..and people are trying to compare it ONLY to the reported number of rapes for women. You have to consider the women … | /r/MensRights | 07/03/12 03:41 PM |
| 2 | Men are raped more than womenI'm pretty sure everyone realized that this original thread was a bunch of BS. Not that prison rape isn't an important issue, but these statistics are only taking into consideration "violent rape" and is excluding date rape/rape through drugging/etc (which is the most common way that females are raped). Also, if you look at it carefully, this is tallying the estimated TOTAL number of rapes of men in prison compared to the reported number of rapes of women. Unreported rapes for women make the fig… | /r/MensRights | 07/03/12 01:29 PM |
| 2 | Why do you hate feminism?I merely quoted the facts about who got saved on the Titanic. yes, but you did this to try and prove a point that this happened because women had 'more rights' than men, and it's just not valid. As I said, it's a poor example because women's rights does not have to do with the way that society would assimulate individuals during a crisis back then. Women could be "seen" as delicate and having the more important role of motherhood (while men were viewed as "strong" and able to withstand such hars… | /r/MensRights | 06/02/12 10:02 PM |
| 2 | Why do you hate feminism?Well if you are only concerned about the choice why did men not get a choice? Because they weren't banned from working & going to school. As I said before, the feminist movement benefitted the working class (including men) because there were two incomes for a household now instead of one. Men could make the choice to not work, if they wanted. There was (and still is) nothing to legally hold them back. With the exception of many new mothers, most people (men and women) WANT their own careers and … | /r/MensRights | 06/02/12 07:33 PM |
| 1 | Why do you hate feminism?You're trying to make being saved sound bad. How? I'm saying that's WHY this happend on the titanic. I'm not trying to say that it was right what happened, but just from a sociological perspective; this is how women were viewed and this is WHY they were saved first on the titanic. It's the North Atlantic. Everyone is going to die if they don't get on a life raft. Yes, we can recognize this as people who are not from that CENTURY. You're trying to rationalize the viewpoints and beliefs of people … | /r/MensRights | 06/02/12 07:17 PM |
| 2 | Why do you hate feminism?Using your logic the anti-choice crowd can say abortion oppresses women too. ...they do. You pull that stunt all the time because at the lower levels of society women were better off than men were, not worse. Being a housewife was a pretty decent job, and being a maid to a rich woman beat the shit out of coal miner for example. Says who? Did you know what life was like for individuals? It's irrelevant what life was like for a housewife or coalminer or a maid or a rich person - it's not a contest… | /r/MensRights | 06/02/12 06:28 PM |
| 1 | Why do you hate feminism?No, my point is that the titanic illustration is irrelevant. Women have, historically, been viewed as fragile, less strong, and delicate creatures (i.e why they wanted women to be saved first on the titanic). This has nothing to do with all of the important political and economic reasons that I listed as to why first wave feminism evolved. | /r/MensRights | 06/02/12 05:59 PM |
| 3 | Why do you hate feminism?many women actively campaigned against the vote for women. Just because some women played into the oppression themselves, doesn't mean that it still wasn't oppression. I think you are the one with a warped view of history. There was a woman called Queen Victoria for example who was pretty highly paid. Once again, you are trying to compare an extreme situation (like "queen victoria") to how women were treated overall. Nice try. Of course women could enter contracts and own property. Yes, of cours… | /r/MensRights | 06/02/12 04:14 PM |
| 1 | Why do you hate feminism?You're seriously trying to compare the titanic to how women were treated overall? The feminist movement did not come about because women were trying to be "better than men" -- it came about because women WERE very much treated as second class citizens. First wave feminism dealt with women trying to gain the most basic equal rights in terms of marriage, divorce, parenting, voting, property rights, sexual, reproductive rights; political, economical, and job wages. Women have come a long way since … | /r/MensRights | 06/02/12 04:10 PM |
| 1 | Male and Female Infant Circumcision: Which One is Worse?I certianly aint disagreeing with you. I'm 100% atheist too, and hate that religion tends to seep into politics, schools, etc. I was just pointing out his point of view from the culture that he was raised in for 25 years (very strict muslim background where men are required to get circumsized). I don't really agree with his points of view, but it was still kinda interesting to hear. Forgot to mention he also said that at this point, it might be safer to treat male infant circumsision like how pe… | /r/MensRights | 31/01/12 04:24 PM |
| 1 | The day my wife beat me up because she hated my haircut: A third of domestic violence victims are male – yet it remains taboo.Ever think that feminists would be more inclusive if Mens rights was more inclusive as well (or at the very least didn't refer to feminists as 'men-hating nazi bitch's' -- yes, I was called that here for expressing valid, unoffensive points). It goes both ways, you know; It's a bit hypocritical to be upset at a movement for not being 100% inclusive when you are doing the exact same thing (and in many ways it's a lot worse on your end). No offense. As a Feminist, I support Mens Rights. But the fa… | /r/MensRights | 30/01/12 09:46 PM |
| 1 | Male and Female Infant Circumcision: Which One is Worse?Thanks :) ...and gosh I hope you are right. To think that these are the types of people representing the mens rights movement is kinda scary. There really wasn't any reason to take offense so quick, I wasn't 100% agreeing with everything they or the article said, but I still remained neutral and on their side (which is the most ironic part). I would have welcomed intelligent conversation, breaking down both points of views, but instead I was belittled by incredibly bigoted and immature backlash.… | /r/MensRights | 22/01/12 06:57 PM |
| 1 | Male and Female Infant Circumcision: Which One is Worse?Continue to be immature and rude, really, go ahead. It's only making you look like a huge ass. | /r/MensRights | 22/01/12 06:52 PM |
| 1 | Male and Female Infant Circumcision: Which One is Worse?Wow, congrats, you can copy and paste and opinion form a blog. Funny enough, I wasn't attempting to compare western circumcision to the african bush. Regardless of weather it's legal in malaysia, I was simply stating that FGM stems from tribal practices, and this is mostly where and how it takes place... while there is no question that they are both morally wrong, they do generally have different physical and psychological outcomes and stem from different roots. ALSO what's really funny is that … | /r/MensRights | 22/01/12 06:49 PM |
| 1 | Male and Female Infant Circumcision: Which One is Worse?Nope, you're just an idiot that's making MRA's look bad. I had some faith in this subreddit, but now you have confirmed that it's filled with a bunch of bitter and angry bigots. | /r/MensRights | 22/01/12 04:53 PM |
| 1 | Male and Female Infant Circumcision: Which One is Worse?Wow, you're so smart. | /r/MensRights | 22/01/12 04:20 AM |
| 1 | Male and Female Infant Circumcision: Which One is Worse?Voluntary adult circumcision is ok. It's the adult person's body he can do whatever he wants with it. Yeah i don't disagree with you there. Non-medical cosmetic procedures, while I think can be silly, are still a persons choice and almost always out of pocket money (not covered by health insurance). I wouldn't say that it's only America though that has accepted removal of the foreskin as a sometimes "necessary medical procedure" upon birth? What about many parts of europe, south america, middle … | /r/MensRights | 21/01/12 11:54 PM |
| 1 | Male and Female Infant Circumcision: Which One is Worse?Oh wow, so because I screwed up a sentence and said "only" instead of "mostly" or "generally" that means I'm pushing 'feminist propaganda'? God, people in this thread need to get over themselves. | /r/MensRights | 21/01/12 11:46 PM |
| 1 | Male and Female Infant Circumcision: Which One is Worse?misunderstanding. in which case, yes, male circumscion should be treated similar to a consensual cosmetic procedure like labiaplasty. Will this ever happen? Who knows, it's hard to change peoples cultural ideals. It's shitty how accepted it is, I have a lot of jewish friends who say that it's so ingrained in their culture, people don't even think twice about having the procedure done at birth. Labiaplasy is not really comparable to FGM though, considering FGM usually goes beyond just making the … | /r/MensRights | 21/01/12 05:10 PM |
| 1 | Male and Female Infant Circumcision: Which One is Worse?Dude, stop trying to pull up a few anecdotal articles in order to make my opinion invalid. I really don't think that I was being offensive, more neutral if anything...but somehow mens rights still gets offended when a woman presents an alternative viewpoint? Sorry that I don't 100% agree with you or this article, but I wasn't being offensive in any way. You are. I clearly stated that I was against all forms of circumcision and think it should be banned (or at the very least laws should be design… | /r/MensRights | 21/01/12 04:48 PM |
| 1 | Male and Female Infant Circumcision: Which One is Worse?If you are looking at it in terms of worldwide practice, overall, it is done in unsafe/unsanitary conditions which statistically results in a higher mortality rate (about 20 babies per 1,000). | /r/MensRights | 21/01/12 04:00 PM |
| 1 | Male and Female Infant Circumcision: Which One is Worse?And now you evil feminists whine, wail and complain when somebody responds to the oppression olympics that YOU started. It's payback time, feminazis. Are you 11 years old? No, really, are you? The article is a response to the people who play the MGM vs FGM oppression olympics card (usually you feminists and pro-circ people). Seriously, I never played the fucking oppression olympics. I was stating FACTS about the different effetcs that male and female circumcision has had worldwide in terms of pr… | /r/MensRights | 21/01/12 03:48 PM |
| 1 | Male and Female Infant Circumcision: Which One is Worse?Way to twist it and assume that I'm a "femnazi"...? Now restrict that to only Western countries. FGM is very rare and illegal. MGM is legal and acceptable by society, so MGM has to be worse. Nope, what you are stating is precicely what makes MGM not worse, overall. It's legal and therefore practiced under safe/sterile conditions. Male circumscion, although practiced worldwide, has an extremely low mortality and short/long term complication rate -- this is because it's always been leagal and prac… | /r/MensRights | 20/01/12 06:42 PM |
| 1 | Male and Female Infant Circumcision: Which One is Worse?Umm no, I mean that If someone finds the procedure beneficial to themsevles, then they can go to a doctors office and have it safely done. I've known a few grown men who were uncircumsized and made that choice for themselves. Babies can't consent which I think is the biggest problem of male infant circumscision. | /r/MensRights | 20/01/12 06:31 PM |
| -1 | Male and Female Infant Circumcision: Which One is Worse?Overall, FGM is statisticlly proven to be worse in terms of cultural and medical practice (long and short term effects of the surgery have very high mortality rates). In example about 20 babies per 1,000 and 10-25% of women end up dead as a result of FGM. 90% of women in E. Africa have the type III procedure done, which is the partial or full removal of all the sex organs (the most brutal/inhumane type of FGM). But as someone mentioned here, that is because FGM is mostly practiced in tribal cult… | /r/MensRights | 19/01/12 09:09 PM |
| 3 | Rape and murder of males deemed irrelevant. The press decries systematic rape of women in African war zones while keeping quiet about the killing of even more men. 'It’s simple,' one woman here explained. 'When the men go out, they’re killed. The women are only raped.'CVTHIZZKID is right. I mean, even if women are given more media coverage (and there's nothing wrong with reporting on the violent rapes there), the focus shouldn't be on who gets more media coverage, but moreso on the fact that life for everyone just sucks, and nobody is ever given enough of a voice. Yes, perhaps rape victims are given more coverage, but it's still not enough to bring justice to the terrible situations they face, or enough to bring attention to the support that rape victims ther… | /r/MensRights | 19/01/12 04:35 PM |
| 2 | Dear MensRightsWomen judge Men as rapists until proven innocent. I'm sorry that you were falsely accused, but it's not going to do any good to stereotype 50% of the worlds population. I've never known any woman that would be so ignorant as to hold the mindset of 'guilty until proven innocent.' It's shitty that you had poeple like this in your life. I've been emotionally and physically abused by every boyfriend I had between the ages of 16-20, been sexually assaulted twice, was beaten by my brother at a young a… | /r/MensRights | 17/01/12 09:04 PM |
| 1 | People like to call it "blaming the victim" but isn't it just advice on how to be safe?I'd consider a man lying about a vasectomy or condom to be a rapist. If a woman does likewise about her birth control then she's a rapist, too. For condoms there's also the matter of disease, but mostly birth control rape is about consent to parenthood. While this is certainly fucked up and wrong for anyone to do, it's still not rape. I know from experience, it was scary to have to be tested for STDs and pregnancy when I thought that the man I was with had a condom on (we were in the dark and he… | /r/MensRights | 10/01/12 11:35 PM |
| 1 | People like to call it "blaming the victim" but isn't it just advice on how to be safe?Well now your argument is different. There's nothing wrong with being careful, I agree with you. There is something wrong with being labeled a 'moron' or 'careless' if you are raped, though. Also, trying to compare being a safe pedestrian is a lot different than the act of rape. One is an accident and the other one is a violent crime. | /r/MensRights | 10/01/12 11:12 PM |
| 1 | What are your thoughts on maternity leave?That's great. Some women are bedridden for a month after having C-sections. I guess if someone has a stroke or breaks their legs, it's back to working asap! | /r/MensRights | 10/01/12 09:02 PM |
| 0 | People like to call it "blaming the victim" but isn't it just advice on how to be safe?So I guess women are the morons when they get raped? Shame on them for leaving their home to go out and drink with the men? If people didn't run on the side of the road, then there wouldn't be the problem of padestrians getting killed. And if women just disappeared from participating in social activities, then the problem of rape wouldn't happen. Great logic. | /r/MensRights | 10/01/12 08:55 PM |
| 1 | People like to call it "blaming the victim" but isn't it just advice on how to be safe?You're view doesn't make sense though because nowhere in this thread are women being treated with sympathy. Actually, it's the exact opposite - people are indeed trying to blame the occurance of rape because WOMEN DRINK TOO MUCH. If you knew anything about rape culture and victim blaming, you would know that the OP's overall stance is STILL very much victim blaming, and it's not okay. You're trying to compare vicitm blaming when it happens to both men and women, but that's not what he's talking … | /r/MensRights | 10/01/12 08:46 PM |
| -1 | People like to call it "blaming the victim" but isn't it just advice on how to be safe?You're comparing locking car doors/robbery to someone being raped. The problem with victim blaming is that it tries to control womens behavior, down to what they consume. Yes, rapes can happen at a frat party or when someones drunk - but why should a woman not be allowed to drink (a very common activity among young adults) just because there are frat boys out there who don't know right from wrong? Should women be aware of their surroundings, not be overly trusting of strangers, and go to a party… | /r/MensRights | 10/01/12 08:29 PM |
| 4 | People like to call it "blaming the victim" but isn't it just advice on how to be safe?There is a line between victim blaming and giving safe advice. Should people that have a higher chance of being the victims of sexual assault or violence in an area be given tips on how to stay safe? Absolutely. I'm sure this has saved many people from becoming victims of a crime. There lies a major gap and problem with your comparisons, though: Men who believe they should be able to fuck whoever they want with no consquences seem to me to be just as delusional as women who are argue that a woma… | /r/MensRights | 09/01/12 07:07 PM |
| 1 | Being a mother is not the most difficult job on the planet, and fuck you for saying so.maybe "hardest" isn't the best term, but perhaps it is the most stressful job? I think about what pressure there must be to care for and be responsible for another human being and just thinking about it freaks me the hell out. My mom stayed at home for most of me and my brothers childhood, and while I don't think parenting in general is the most difficult thing in the world, I think that certain types of parents can actually fall under that category. Basically, if you have a sick child, you can'… | /r/MensRights | 09/01/12 05:46 PM |
| 1 | What are your thoughts on maternity leave?So I guess that people also don't deserve: disability leave, bereavement leave, social security/retirement benefits, unemployment insurance, welfare, and food stamps. People should just be worked to the bone no matter what's going on in their personal life, or what their monetary or physical capabilities are. Personally I think it would just be really funny to have a conversation with your boss like: "Oh you need to take time off for your pregnancy? Pshhh! Just take a week out of your vacation t… | /r/MensRights | 05/01/12 02:46 PM |
| 1 | What are your thoughts on maternity leave?I don't understand what the alternative is - make women go back to work a week (or even a month) after giving brith? How is it a "privilege" to recover from a physical procedure that takes a toll on your body? Aside from that though, I think more women would go back to work sooner if a lot free/low cost daycare options were available either through the government of through their own job, but thats just not the case. For most women it's either stay home for a year and bond with the child, or pay… | /r/MensRights | 04/01/12 08:21 PM |
| 2 | Media focus on rapes and other female miseries while ignoring male executions, worked-to-death laborers, tortured prisoners, and nine-year-old boy soldiers trained to kill and be killed. Cultures in which women are raped arbitrarily are cultures in which men are shot dead arbitrarily.Yes a bit of misunderstanding perhapas. I get what you're saying and I do agree with it, that everyone who is suffering deserves attention. What I'm saying though is that it seems this might be slightly overexhaggurated view as to 'how women have it better to the point of being above and beyond.' Don't see any real evidence of that - women in these places have few rights and help from their government... and if they've gotten a bit more coverage, it's never anything that significant. Could war a… | /r/MensRights | 04/01/12 05:44 PM |
| 1 | I hear the "we have it tougher than you" argument all the time, and I've decided it's crap.LOL yes, the definition of feminism is "anti-male." I totally forgot that this is the exact definition outlined! How could I miss that, I mean, It's CLEARLY highlighted in the first sentence(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feminism)! Gosh, MRAs just make so much logical sense here. | /r/MensRights | 03/01/12 09:28 PM |
| 2 | Media focus on rapes and other female miseries while ignoring male executions, worked-to-death laborers, tortured prisoners, and nine-year-old boy soldiers trained to kill and be killed. Cultures in which women are raped arbitrarily are cultures in which men are shot dead arbitrarily."Well, men are simply killed outright, and that's not as bad." And then, "Rape of females is a more important issue, and we should focus most of our energy on that." I still don't get where this idea actually comes from though; that men in war aren't being given as much coverage as a culture that has high rape statistics? Doesn't it all just really suck and neither is really given that much attention, because these are third world countries and on a daily basis we are able to put out of our mind… | /r/MensRights | 03/01/12 09:13 PM |
| 2 | I hear the "we have it tougher than you" argument all the time, and I've decided it's crap....coming from an MRA troll. Oh wait there are many actual MRAs who think that women are evil and the point of feminism is to destroy men. lolol. this subreddit cracks me up sometimes. | /r/MensRights | 03/01/12 08:46 PM |
| 3 | Media focus on rapes and other female miseries while ignoring male executions, worked-to-death laborers, tortured prisoners, and nine-year-old boy soldiers trained to kill and be killed. Cultures in which women are raped arbitrarily are cultures in which men are shot dead arbitrarily.It's not really something that's comparable. No use in trying to figure out who has it worse. Women AND men living in war-torn-child-soldier countries have never really had a voice, so i'm not really sure as to where this belief that 'women are only given the attention' comes from. Perhaps this just paints a larger picture of human nature -- that we always have used war as a way to solve our problems, and the effects it has on men, women, and children are always devestating. When I think about i… | /r/MensRights | 03/01/12 07:56 PM |
| 2 | I hear the "we have it tougher than you" argument all the time, and I've decided it's crap....no. you are doing nothing but representing the bigotry and arrogance in mensrights...stop making your movement look bad. | /r/MensRights | 03/01/12 07:23 PM |
| 2 | Yet MORE proof that radical feminists are out to silence all but themselves, the "ladies" at radfem hub stating that transwomens voice's arent welcome in feminist spaces.anddd mensrights is really so welcoming of transpeople? | /r/MensRights | 03/01/12 07:19 PM |
| 1 | Kansas State Student Aisha Kahn Found Alive - Not abducted, not raped - Looks like anohter cry for attention at the tax payer's expense. Her family wont be charged with over-reacting and the real lesson will be forgotten just in time for the next false accusation to take off in the media.....? | /r/MensRights | 31/12/11 05:53 PM |
| 4 | I hear the "we have it tougher than you" argument all the time, and I've decided it's crap.Wow, really? After everything I just broke down, that is the only thing you have to say. Yet another over generalized, ignorant, blanket statement? | /r/MensRights | 30/12/11 09:15 PM |
| 1 | Kansas State Student Aisha Kahn Found Alive - Not abducted, not raped - Looks like anohter cry for attention at the tax payer's expense. Her family wont be charged with over-reacting and the real lesson will be forgotten just in time for the next false accusation to take off in the media.How was I against equal rights? I was pointing out to you that it's not okay to wanna strip away the equal rights that women worked for just because you may feel frustrated about certain things. If men are being oppressed in some way, then by all means they should have that equality (I believe in equality for everyone), but it should never be at the expense of taking away other peoples rights. | /r/MensRights | 30/12/11 09:12 PM |
| 3 | I hear the "we have it tougher than you" argument all the time, and I've decided it's crap.No, that is nothing but a misconception of many MRAs. Just because the feminist movement deals specifically with womens issues (like the ones i listed above - where women in certain places are still barred from voting, going to school, or are much more the targets of sexual violence simply because under the law they have very few rights), does not mean that mens issues are being ignored. If anything, feminists want men to be included, and are NOT separatists. I think that it's just too broad to … | /r/MensRights | 30/12/11 09:03 PM |
| 1 | Kansas State Student Aisha Kahn Found Alive - Not abducted, not raped - Looks like anohter cry for attention at the tax payer's expense. Her family wont be charged with over-reacting and the real lesson will be forgotten just in time for the next false accusation to take off in the media.Women have fought long and hard to have gender specific rights (regarding birth control, abortion, jobs, etc)...It's wrong if certain people abuse the system, but it's also not wrong for people to be protected under the law, either. If men feel as though they want more rights regarding a certain issue, then they should fight for it. But don't blame women for any lack of protections that you feel you have...trying to make women feel guilty for having protections and equality that they worked long… | /r/MensRights | 30/12/11 07:46 PM |
| 1 | I hear the "we have it tougher than you" argument all the time, and I've decided it's crap.It does suck to be a person in any of these countries, but what's so flawed about the idea that "women have equal rights everywhere in the world extreme gender oppression doesn't exist" is that this statement is not true. Under the LAW, women in many places in the world are not equal. Which is why feminism, as a worldwide movement, is still viewed as important. | /r/MensRights | 30/12/11 05:40 PM |
| 7 | I hear the "we have it tougher than you" argument all the time, and I've decided it's crap.I always think it's hilarious when someone claims women have it harder than men anywhere, let alone in the feminized western world. Nope, Nope, and Nope. It's one thing to completely overgeneralize women (and the feminist movement) in developed nations (which yes, you are doing). But something I think many people are failing to realize is that the definition of feminism is not actually about giving more power to women that already have power. It's actually about fighting for womens rights where … | /r/MensRights | 30/12/11 05:33 PM |
| 1 | Kansas State Student Aisha Kahn Found Alive - Not abducted, not raped - Looks like anohter cry for attention at the tax payer's expense. Her family wont be charged with over-reacting and the real lesson will be forgotten just in time for the next false accusation to take off in the media....i think you just hate women. | /r/MensRights | 30/12/11 04:34 PM |
| 3 | Kansas State Student Aisha Kahn Found Alive - Not abducted, not raped - Looks like anohter cry for attention at the tax payer's expense. Her family wont be charged with over-reacting and the real lesson will be forgotten just in time for the next false accusation to take off in the media.I don't believe she should entierly be let off the hook either; you are right that having to spend a lot of time and money (when it could have been spent on something else) is wrong. I really have no idea what the legal implications for this type of offense is. My point was more that it seems this thread was originally intended to be pointing the finger at yet another 'false rape accuser' (when that's not what this article is about). Her story (for whatever it is) should be treated individually … | /r/MensRights | 22/12/11 11:06 PM |
| -3 | Kansas State Student Aisha Kahn Found Alive - Not abducted, not raped - Looks like anohter cry for attention at the tax payer's expense. Her family wont be charged with over-reacting and the real lesson will be forgotten just in time for the next false accusation to take off in the media.She didn't hint at a rape, though (that was more of the media, if anything). She told her sister that there was an unidentified drunk man bothering her. This may or may not have been true. The cops aren't releasing what actually happened to her, but it doesn't mean that any of it had to do with a womans attempt of making a false accusation against a man and putting him in jail. The title of this article/thread is misleading and a pretty bad/offensive attempt at making a woman look like a "false … | /r/MensRights | 22/12/11 09:41 PM |
| 1 | Kansas State Student Aisha Kahn Found Alive - Not abducted, not raped - Looks like anohter cry for attention at the tax payer's expense. Her family wont be charged with over-reacting and the real lesson will be forgotten just in time for the next false accusation to take off in the media.Who says they wouldn't also report on a man that went missing for six days? Where are there actual statistics that the male gender is not reported in disappearences? There aren't, because this isn't a real problem. So, let me get this straight, a Muslim-American woman goes missing and her family doesn't deserve for it to be publisized because she is a woman, and there may be news sources out there that don't report men disappearing as much? Also the OP is correct. Black & poor people are the lea… | /r/MensRights | 22/12/11 08:18 PM |
| 20 | Kansas State Student Aisha Kahn Found Alive - Not abducted, not raped - Looks like anohter cry for attention at the tax payer's expense. Her family wont be charged with over-reacting and the real lesson will be forgotten just in time for the next false accusation to take off in the media.This wasn't a false accusation because NOBODY WAS EVER ACCUSED. She disappeared for six days. It's not outlandish for people to assume that she was kidnapped/raped/killed; if I was a parent that would be the first thing I would start to fear....Why should her family be charged for "overreacting"? They were the ones who were rightfully so, distraught and looking for her. Clearly, there are things here that the family will not disclose of as to what happened. We can only speculate, but we don't kn… | /r/MensRights | 22/12/11 07:00 PM |
| 1 | "Distraught" Woman, 53, murders daughter, 10, and father before taking her own life.I'm not going to care that much about anti-feminist men or women, because anyone who participates in hate speech is not truly apart of any proactive movement. Will you, then, spend your time trying to get rid of the bigots who hate women in r/mensrights? | /r/MensRights | 22/12/11 06:49 PM |
| 0 | "Distraught" Woman, 53, murders daughter, 10, and father before taking her own life.Oh yes, because another definition of "woman" is actually just "mentally unstable feminist." At a mother/wifes first glance of reading the SCUM manifesto, you are automatically programmed to wanna kill all men. | /r/MensRights | 22/12/11 06:13 PM |
| 1 | "Distraught" Woman, 53, murders daughter, 10, and father before taking her own life.I'm just talking about feminism. Which accepts the mens rights movement as part of the feminist movement. There are hateful women with superiority issues who claim to be feminists, but actually aren't. This is the same for the mens rights movement, yes? It should be about gender equality and inclusive of women in their movement; yet, there are complete biggots here who claim to be MRAs, but actually aren't. They really just hate women. Really, I can pull the same exact card except from the femin… | /r/MensRights | 22/12/11 05:54 PM |
| 5 | "Distraught" Woman, 53, murders daughter, 10, and father before taking her own life.Mmmmmm nope, it's not. Still no relevance as to why this article is a mens issue that deserves bashing of feminist literature. Shall I pull up similar articles where the gender is reversed, and then bash the mens movement? Would that be fair? | /r/MensRights | 22/12/11 05:44 PM |
| 0 | I'm making a more moderated version of /r/MensRights.Feminists want a more moderated MRM but they also want all men dead LOL WHATTT. Seriously, LOL @ this entire comment. WTF. Really, just keep digging yourself into a deeper and deeper hole. Once again, THIS is why women and men want a more moderated version of r/mensrights. | /r/MensRights | 22/12/11 05:34 PM |
| 1 | Thinking of dumping my GFThis. She does not owe you anything (including sex). Sometimes it's just nice when a man (or woman) does something thoughtful for their significant other just for the hell of it. I went through something similar a while ago where I was "not in the mood" to have sex with my SO. NOT because I was cheating or not sexually attracted anymore, but just because I was going through some personal family issues and work related stress. For myself, being stressed out is a huge turn off and makes me not wan… | /r/MensRights | 22/12/11 05:23 PM |
| 6 | "Distraught" Woman, 53, murders daughter, 10, and father before taking her own life.how does this call for bashing of feminist literature? I could also pull up an article of a man that beat his wife to death, shot his two children (killing them) and then took his own life. Relevance to gender rights? I think they are all just crazy motherfuckers regardless of gender. | /r/MensRights | 22/12/11 05:07 PM |
| 1 | I'm making a more moderated version of /r/MensRights.annnddd that is why poeple want a more moderated r/mensrights... | /r/MensRights | 22/12/11 04:53 PM |
| 3 | If you are a Feminist, and you've come here to tell us that "RadFems don't represent Feminism" please read this.That's not true at all, or rather, that is an extremist and overgeneralized view. Real feminists do believe that the mens liberation movement needs to be included in order for gender equality to truly exist. MOST women are not separatists (the same way that I would hope most MRAs aren't separatists, either?). Also, these "radicalfem" movements really don't hold any significant political or social weight, especially today...perhaps in a classroom at a university, or some type of small grassroots … | /r/MensRights | 18/12/11 04:28 PM |
| 2 | More men than women were raped last year according to the NISVS study..."and be able to get a guilty verdict without any corroborating evidence to her testimony." Youre making it sound like that's something which happens often? Most rape cases aren't taken as far as a trial, and if they are they are usually thrown out. A recent high profile case in NYC where I live let two cops off of their rape charges because there was "lack of evidence" -- even though there was an audio recording of them admitting to it and a video showing them coming and going out of her apartme… | /r/MensRights | 18/12/11 04:15 PM |
| 1 | Male birth control pill soon a realityAll ideologies have radicals, including MRAs. These sub-groups do not hold true to what the larger idea of feminism is, nor do any of these ideas hold any type of political or social weight, especially today (basically the tea party holds more tangible power than they do). Also, just because someone has an 'extremist' belief, doesn't mean that they are terrorists; but rather their beliefs could go against the mainstream; they are/were minorities. Their biggest gripes is that they didn't/don't wa… | /r/MensRights | 18/12/11 03:56 PM |
| 1 | Male birth control pill soon a realityCiting a few biased articles and blogs isn't going to change the true definition of a movement that has existed for over 100 years...While I hate citing wikipedia, I think that this is pretty accurate regarding what true feminism is. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feminism#Men_and_masculinity Feminism is mainly focused on women's issues, but because feminism seeks gender equality, some feminists argue that men's liberation is a necessary part of feminism, and that men are also harmed by sexism and… | /r/MensRights | 17/12/11 09:47 PM |
| 1 | Male birth control pill soon a realityI've actually had my work featured on the covers of grassroots/up and coming magazines, and have sold anywhere from $500-1000 in comissions at art shows...and have done volunteer/activism work in the U.S and India (mostly working with women in shelters) before I was 20. I'm not really sure what a family guy quote has to do with anything though? My point was that I'm just really not sure why, if you guys actually really, really want birth control, to counter act it by implying things like 'well w… | /r/MensRights | 16/12/11 09:17 PM |
| 1 | Male birth control pill soon a realityoh yes, because this is just happening left and right.... so because of a few instances where the legal system failed a guy, all of us are actually 'femnazis' who just hate boys and want to have complete superiority over the world. | /r/MensRights | 16/12/11 09:06 PM |
| 1 | Male birth control pill soon a realitythinking about it more (considering I didn't really know what LPS was before), men should certainly be able to do this, regardless of their reasons for not wanting to take part in the childs life. I was more responding to the quote "well men don't have the option to abort like women" -- so my argument was more about the physcial aspect of bringing a child into the world; that it is ultimitatley the womans decision because she's the one pregnant, and no one has the right to interfear with that. L… | /r/MensRights | 15/12/11 09:42 PM |
| 2 | NY Daily News - 20% of women have been raped; only 17% have suffered a "terrifying experience at the hands of an abuser" - so rape is not a terrifying experience in some cases | also, male rape victims ignored again (surprise, surprise)err wtf are you talking about? When I read the article this morning, that comment (the 1 in 40,000) statistic WAS posted by someone who claimed to be from the false rape society. Perhaps they edited it or deleted the content, so we are thinking of two different things? I never said that everyone (or even many) who associate with the false rape society are trying to whip up false information. My point though is that it's a common mindset in many areas, for whatever reason, that the 1/5 or 1/10 st… | /r/MensRights | 15/12/11 08:39 PM |
| 1 | Male birth control pill soon a realityFrom what I understand this is the voluntary surrender of parental rights and denial of paternity. How would this relate to abortion, though? Is it suggesting that a man could surrender all paternal rights before the child is born, if he knows that he does not want it? If so, I think that is a good legal solution. | /r/MensRights | 15/12/11 08:09 PM |
| 0 | NY Daily News - 20% of women have been raped; only 17% have suffered a "terrifying experience at the hands of an abuser" - so rape is not a terrifying experience in some cases | also, male rape victims ignored again (surprise, surprise)Yes, and if you scroll through the comments in this article, someone who says they are from the false rape society decided to pull a stastic out of their ass that "actually, only 1 in every 40,000 women are raped" ...I understand where mens rights issues regarding custody and false rape accusations stem from, and it's important to be educated on those important matters... but when I see a "statistic" like that, from someone who is claiming to represent a supposed website of the mens rights movem… | /r/MensRights | 15/12/11 07:02 PM |
| -3 | Male birth control pill soon a realityOKAY then don't support male birth control. Geeze, I dont know any woman that wouldn't be thrilled to have male birth control come on the market. Why does this have to be turned around to deamonize women, too? You want birth control? Great, rally together and fight for it non-stop (that's how women in the 70's got it). But you wanna bring in some topic of how women are going to be evil and use it to put men in jail? Then just don't get it, and don't fight for it; because it's really not fair to … | /r/MensRights | 15/12/11 06:34 PM |
| -4 | Male birth control pill soon a realityAre we really going to get into this? Men can't get pregnant, women can. What is the solution here, that a man has the right to force an abortion upon a girl if he wants one and she doesn't? Until men can get pregnant, I really don't see how this is something that will be entierly equal. Yes, this is a subject that can't be completely equal, not because one gender is more special than the other, but just simply because of biology. | /r/MensRights | 15/12/11 06:22 PM |
| 7 | NY Daily News - 20% of women have been raped; only 17% have suffered a "terrifying experience at the hands of an abuser" - so rape is not a terrifying experience in some cases | also, male rape victims ignored again (surprise, surprise)Entire articles should be read before jumping to conclusions like "men are being ignored once again." This article is actually very well balanced. I also think that the meaning behind the "17% have suffered at the hands of an abuser" is more of an umbrella term for domestic abuse and not rape in itself; like 17% have experienced some type of severe domestic violence. I think it goes without saying that rape, in itself, in any form, is terrifying and awful. | /r/MensRights | 15/12/11 06:10 PM |
| 1 | I think it's pretty relevantFGM is not 'stopped' - it's just that it's only really practiced in tribal/rural cultures (like places in E. Africa) when a girl is 'coming of age' or getting married, and they don't want her to feel sexual stimulation anymore, so that she wont 'sleep around' with a bunch of men. Most of the time it results in full removal of the sex organs, and sewing up the labia, which results in infections and early death from being unable to pee and menstruate properly. I think the best way to handle male c… | /r/MensRights | 14/12/11 03:25 PM |
| 2 | "I just want to go for a walk" feminists believe that women can no longer walk about alone, thoughts?Whats with pulling the "we man" card, like we are all against each other? My point was that women issues should not be ridiculed in a mens rights forum, it's counter productive, makes people go against each other, and humiliating for people that experience it. I would never post an article in r/feminism like "LOL @ men who feel unsafe walking in their neighborhoods because of violence." It's also comparable to femnazis who say that because they've never heard of a man being raped before, then it… | /r/MensRights | 13/12/11 11:10 PM |
| 2 | I'm getting fed up of TV ad's that would be horrifyingly sexist if they were the other way around. Example - Lindt.Men and women experience sexism in the media; in my observation, to an equal degree, and it can be terribly offensive and hurtful both ways. Sure, men are portrayed to be the macho man stereotype (among other things, of course)...women are portrayed to be the dainty housewife that loves to talk about her favorite dishwashing detergent, or needs that Slimfast to fit into size 2 jeans, etc, etc. It's great to address sexism in the media towards men; but it shouldn't be done by down-playing sexist … | /r/MensRights | 13/12/11 04:14 PM |
| 1 | "I just want to go for a walk" feminists believe that women can no longer walk about alone, thoughts?What you are saying basically goes against your views in this original post, because you are now agreeing that women in certain areas do indeed have it more difficult when in comes to men approaching them. So therefore, don't belittle something that is a real problem for certain demographics of women via this article. And once again, YOU have found a way to make men back off in YOUR neighborhood when they approach you - but this doesn't mean that all the other women in this world are going to re… | /r/MensRights | 11/12/11 07:53 AM |
| 1 | What is feminism? "a demand that women come first, using the justification of equality, at the expense of men."oh geeze haha I didn't even realize how much i wrote sorry. My main point was that the whole movement shouldn't be looked at as illegitimate these days just because there are some bad apples that claim to be "feminists," but really just have a superiority complex (and the same can be said for the mens rights movement). Feminism is just about making change where it's needed, where women are being degrated and/or oppressed; weather it's a sexist ad in a magazine, or women in the middle east who ar… | /r/MensRights | 09/12/11 09:47 PM |
| 5 | "I just want to go for a walk" feminists believe that women can no longer walk about alone, thoughts?Please tell me how something is a load of bullshit that exists? I have experienced this from a young age because of where I grew up, all of my friends have as well. Typically it's the teen/preteen girls that are most vulnerable to it, yet still to this day my friends and I have had very innapropriate flirtacious actions happen quite frequently. These are facts (not bullshit) of my experiences based on where I live and based on the culture that many men around me grew up in. Be a girl for 10 year… | /r/MensRights | 09/12/11 09:22 PM |
| 0 | "I just want to go for a walk" feminists believe that women can no longer walk about alone, thoughts?"If a woman does not want a man to flirt with her, just say "I'm not single" and keep walking - what can someone say to that, fuck all really. " Well you obviously don't understand this problem or where she is coming from, nor have you ever experienced it yourself. You've never experienced it? Great, you're in a position of privilege then to view it as an outsider for women that do experience it on a daily or weekly basis. So, the neighborhood that I live in, at least, I can't go out walking at … | /r/MensRights | 09/12/11 05:39 PM |
| 1 | What is feminism? "a demand that women come first, using the justification of equality, at the expense of men."I understand the gripe with roe v. wade, but at the end of the day women and men are not equal in this sense, not because one gender has more privilege over the other gender, but because of biology. Men can't get can't pregnant, they never will, so therefore laws are not going to be equal in this sense to suit both genders. Sometimes laws have to be decided upon not to suit the individual, but to suit what is best for people as a whole. Is it sad that there's some men who may really want a child… | /r/MensRights | 09/12/11 05:14 PM |
| 1 | What is feminism? "a demand that women come first, using the justification of equality, at the expense of men."you know poeple can (and do) say the same exact thing about MRAs. it may come as a shocker, but womens rights organziations still have a lot of that same passion due to modern day issues that women face...it's would be similar if you said to people/organizations who work on modern day race issues "well you got the right to vote so just shut up already" ...Also, more importantly, there are feminist organizations that work towards equality NOT just in developed, first world nations, but in places … | /r/MensRights | 08/12/11 09:13 PM |
| 1 | What is feminism? "a demand that women come first, using the justification of equality, at the expense of men."Sorry, but I think that real feminism, like any other historical movement, is not about mantaining superiority, but more about keeping constant. If you are consistent then the rights that you worked hard for will remain in tact, but if you stop fighting then they will disapear. Same goes for the civil rights movement - racism and race equality is not 'won' just because the movement happened 50 years ago.... What would happen if the feminist movement and womens organizations just stopped? The fir… | /r/MensRights | 08/12/11 09:02 PM |
| 1 | Crown seeks two-year prison term for N.S. man who poked holes in condomsthis shouldn't be looked at as a woman vs. man thing...it's just that there's not a strong way to actually prove if a woman was lying about being on the pill, considering it's nothing more than a low dose of hormones. Theres not a ton of tests that can prove if someone was or wasn't on the pill when a child was conceived. Poking holes in condoms is obviously more tangible evidence. I believe reproductive coercion, or reproductive abuse is the proper term for someone who might do this. If this ma… | /r/MensRights | 02/12/11 09:45 PM |
| 1 | When dating, is it a big deal that she have a job, car, college education, and place of her own?It depends what matters to you and what the persons intentions are. When I met my SO, I had my education, yes, but I dindn't have the other things due to financial problems and being laid-off. My intentions though, were to work towards all of those things. My SO didn't care though that I had fallen on some hard times upon meeting me, and now that I have all those things I don't think he views me any differently... I don't really think it's as much of a gender thing as it is a human thing...even … | /r/MensRights | 03/08/11 05:55 PM |
| 1 | Checking Our PrivilegeO.J. got off scot-free. Not a good example - OJ got off scott free because he was a rich celebrity. If you really don't think any of my points are valid (skin whitening creams is not a 'lame' example either, i didn't wanna go into massive detail about it, but just in general the industry essentailly profits off of what they want people to think the top notch standards of beauty are, which is, in the black and many asian communities, light skin - and it has nothing to do with tanning beds either,… | /r/MensRights | 29/07/11 07:55 PM |
| 1 | Checking Our PrivilegeWell, privilege in specific situations and overall privilege can usually overlap, which is why I suppose it was easy for me to misunderstand your point. But, we don't live in a genderless and color blind society, we never have and probably never will. White/male privilege exists. It really, really does. And I can't name one? The list in endless, but to name a few - blacks and latinos are three times as likely to be pulled over by cops. White offenders are much more likely to be given lesser sent… | /r/MensRights | 18/07/11 05:42 PM |
| 1 | Checking Our PrivilegeWow...just...wow. Someone finally in r/mens rights tries to bring up the topic of men 'checking our privilege' at the door, and what does everyone here pretty much do? Deny that such privilege even exists. Just..wow. As a male, especially is you are a white male you have privilege, and do need to check it. End of story. Mens rights will never become an established movement, or even be taken seriously unless you being to do this. | /r/MensRights | 17/07/11 10:15 PM |
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