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Spread the word.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 07:35 PM
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You should tell your sisters that because many ladies speak as if they speak for all.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 07:19 PM
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And I’m saying that women dated and had kids in the time of much less favorable cultural norms for women. Would you call those women naive? Or stupid? It’s a direct extrapolation of your logic. I’m using that to indicate how I think it is harsh to criticize men as naive or stupid for dating in a time that has unfair double standards for men. You wouldn’t say that your grandma or great grandma was an idiot, even though your grandpa in 1940 probably had less enlightened views on gender norms.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 06:02 PM
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And…. Never date? So they failed? You are really harshly criticizing those women of the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 05:52 PM
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I mean I guess some people don’t have to be pragmatic about this stuff but then I think that’s part of the issue, isn’t it? What would be your advice to a lady in the past when men were much more chauvinistic? Just give up? You think every woman of the past is a big dummy for getting married to chauvinist pricks?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 05:47 PM
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Eh I think that not every problem can be solved by taking your ball and going home. At some point you need to engage with people and learn to be social, which is a perpetual exercise in balance between boundaries and compromise. For instance I think your approach impractical, wait until you find someone with exactly the same values as you? I don’t necessarily think that paying for the first date is totally enlightened or egalitarian but I’m not gonna risk scaring off a good gal with “battle of t…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 05:14 PM
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People are complex. It’s easy to say “those who don’t value you are not worth your time” I understand the sentiment and the value in having that outlook. On the other hand I think it is still valuable to examine: why people find certain things attractive? Does it make you a bad person if you do those things? Is there a way good folks can employ certain tactics to have more success in matters of the heart?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 04:56 PM
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I find this to be an untrue narrative. “Only the garbage kind of women fall for these tactics” I think that is a cop out to not fully reckon with just how widespread problematic preferences are and why people have them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 02:48 PM
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Yeah I think the whole getting laid thing is more of a symptom than the real issue. Like you mentioned education, employment, and such.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 09:26 PM
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As a nerd I can tell you that in my experience it’s not the nerdiness that turns gals off, it’s being a gatekeeping, pedantic, know it all. So if you foster the curiosity of others, use terminology that isn’t esoteric, and keep an open mind, you’ll be fine to gush about whatever your hobby is.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 09:10 PM
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I mean yeah you gotta hear diverse perspectives to get the full picture innit?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 08:02 PM
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My answer to that is. I would feel intellectually disingenuous if I stooped to the level of (some of the most radical) feminists, in order to fight feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 06:35 PM
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I generally dismiss these kinds of takes. It’s too “law of the jungle” for me, dawg. I would say that men should care about women’s problems AND women should care about men’s. I mean call me crazy, I know it’s a hot take.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 06:27 PM
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I can understand the base desire to want certain things, but not if you sit there and defend it all day as your inalienable right to have preferences. Those little fruity vape things are amazing but I just choose not to buy them, not because don’t like them (I fucking love them) but because it’s just not a wise choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 06:21 PM
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Well there were a lot of messages to young boys to not be pigs, to be gentlemen, not objectify women. So yeah it is a little surprising to some when they hear women being pigs, unladylike, and objectifying men. Then to make it worse implying that men are naive and stupid for not noticing that hot people are hot or whatever. That was not the point, the point was I thought we were ALL supposed to value content of character more. Not the “nana nana boo boo, girls can be crass too, dude” retaliation…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 05:56 PM
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I think if you tell someone explicitly that you should value content of character more, then it’s not naive or unintelligent to believe that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 05:21 PM
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I think times have changed but for some reason people defend draconian gender roles as preferences. People will loudly proclaim that “meat is murder” but then they’re like always eating a steak. If you want gender roles to go away but you obviously have preferences for them that is incredibly confusing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 05:05 PM
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Isn’t J-Lo like 60? I’ll say 60.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 07:56 PM
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The major problem is that men are perceived to be this oppressor class that deserves to be knocked down a peg. I understand that sentiment but when you just assume that all men are pricks and therefore deserve to be ridiculed like this it makes the good folks jaded at best or sends impressionable people down a tribal trench at worst. Inb4: you’re only upset because you actually ARE a piece of shit. Imagine saying something mean to someone and then implying that if it makes them sad that the pers…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 07:53 PM
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“Just find a girl who wants that” But somehow also “Red pill tactics like being flakey and dating multiple women don’t work”
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 03:48 PM
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Kinda sounds like you agree with the OP
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 03:47 PM
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I’m a hot nerd. It jaded me terribly when I realized that I could easily get laid if I just acted like every shallow frat boy douche. For some reason all the gentlemanly things just don’t work as well. Even if you’re pretty good looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 05:30 PM
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There’s a tv trope that drives me crazy. Docile, responsible guy is the butt of the jokes, haha what a loser. Then he does something toxic and horrible and all the sudden his wife wants to sleep with him again, he starts getting sexual or romantic attention. What’s that all about?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 05:20 PM
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I appreciate your response and I don’t want to invalidate your experience. For the sake of argument, you basically indicated that sometimes nervousness is perceived as nefariousness. Or at least it’s icky. Which is tough to hear for guys who were listening and taking women’s advice on board and that’s why they are a little nervous. I mean what kinda guy wouldn’t feel a little bad approaching a lady when he’s heard all the horror stories women have experienced? Many guys were taught to be much mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 06:39 PM
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I think it’s probably because some people absolutely do talk as if they speak for all.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 02:45 PM
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Your response is nuanced and I do agree. Where I would push back is there really are a lot of people who immediately jump to conclusions. For instance if a guy is struggling he really could be an awful person with a bad personality. On the other hand I think there’s lots of guys who have a great personality, probably have good relationships with female friends and colleagues but they lack the specific skill for courtship. Which is IMO, in part, to do with the hyperbolic and dogmatic way some peo…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 02:35 PM
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Look I get it women want to do shock comedy too. Just like the boys do. I just can’t think of any clean lady comics off the top of my head. I can think of a few male ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 03:09 PM
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Don’t forget all those squeaky clean female comics.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 02:54 PM
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Well, I think if you don’t acknowledge the hormonal nature of a pregnant or menstruating woman then you’re in for one hell of a ride and probably a short relationship. “Nah baby you don’t really want ice cream that’s just the hormones talking” People often describe being in the throes of romance that someone makes them feel “brand new” or “like a kid again” it implies a sense of real passion a passion they have lost or grown out of. You make them feel that magical butterfly feeling like a first …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 06:30 PM
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You’re doing that thing. Using negative terminology to describe pretty normal things.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 05:58 PM
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I agree and i appreciate you’re acknowledging the nuance. I find that’s kinda the issue. People saying “never do xyz its bad it means you’re a bad person” Meanwhile it’s something pretty innocuous like looking at someone. You could call it something negative like ogling, or you could call it admiring. But no matter what way you slice it looking at someone is often the very first step in romance lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 05:46 PM
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Well that’s my point there’s basically no difference between USA and UK in regard to this subject and yet people find something different a little more appealing. I think it’s not all about being an unlovable loser in your home country. Sometimes it’s just that you stand out more if you change your location. Being a low tier athlete means you’re probs a physical stud in the theater crowd. Etc etc
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 05:29 PM
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This is ridiculous. Surely you can see the difference between calling someone a whale and noticing a gal is wearing an all black outfit and saying something like “what are we mourning?” or “where’s the wake?” It’s making fun of her in a playful way that opens a door to more banter and more conversation. You would have to be an idiot to just be like “hey mama, you’re ugly” that’s absurd.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 05:07 PM
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Mmmm that’s a little personal, I’ll not answer that directly. That being said I have had long fruitful relationships start in this way. See gal, introduce yourself, playful tease, don’t text too fast. Once you start talking, plan a date and then stop talking except maybe one message to say “can’t wait for friday”. I am a guy who used to listen to your style of advice. Guess what? I basically just made myself invisible and when I talked to women about this they honestly seemed like they thought I…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 04:40 PM
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That’s crazy. All I can say is my experience is exactly the opposite of what you said. You have used negative terminology to describe neutral behaviors that have absolutely improved people’s luck in dating. Being flakey is one way to describe just being secure or stoic. Not constant texting and looking for validation and confirmation. Negging is one way to describe playful teasing which is an extremely effective way of initiating a romantic connection. Multidating? Isn’t that just…. Being single…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 04:10 PM
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I think there is a novelty aspect that confounds the LBH narrative. American gals love British accents. So a plain average dude that probably did fine in merry old England all the sudden goes from plain average to “oooh maybe he’s like a duke or something” Oiven eef ay taulks loike iss and doesn’t sound posh at all
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 02:33 PM
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I think it’s funny how the person delivering message matters so much. Often a scenario is exactly the same and yet depending on the people involved, one persons behavior will be described with negative terminology and the other person’s behavior will be described with positive terminology. There is no difference between entitlement and knowing your worth. The difference between confidence and arrogance is often just like… your opinion, man.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 02:05 PM
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Oh hell yeah if I had a kid that’s only fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 08:13 PM
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Okay so you’re saying men should make most of the money and do all the chores? What is a ladies’ responsibility in that scenario? Just… be?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 07:18 PM
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I’m confused as to your point then. It appears your point is “times have changed and we must all adapt…. Except for me, of course”
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 07:09 PM
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Huh? I’m all about fairness. Meaning both work and contribute. Call me crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 07:09 PM
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Wow. So enlightened and egalitarian of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 06:30 PM
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“We need to shake off these draconian gender roles women can be the big, strong, boss providers” Also “He’s a great guy but he’s just not on my level success wise”
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 06:29 PM
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Eh I don’t think it’s all men’s fault. Just saying. It’s a lot more complex than “men just can’t handle these changes” frankly I think a lot of guys would love to ditch those roles you’ve brought up. The frustration I think comes from seeing people say things like this but then they still desire the traditional gender role setup. The hypocrisy is I think a larger problem than the things you brought up.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 06:19 PM
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lol until you get a girlfriend. Then it is a whole other bag of worms.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 04:33 PM
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I think people are just afraid to be honest about how shallow they are. Especially if you have been proselytizing for years about how important personality and content of character and shared values are.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 10:06 PM
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In my experience almost every relationship starts with a little bit of ogling. I find people who say that you shouldn’t even look at someone with desire to be a little unreasonable and extreme.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 03:58 PM
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Nah mate this is how it usually goes for me. Yeeeeeoooo you support (local football club/whatever jersey they are wearing)?! Instant buddies.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 05:51 PM
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I agree with your core point but I feel the world requires a lot more honesty and people need to do more internal work for this strategy to be realistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 05:44 PM
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No. Men also have the same issue. More like letting go of attraction biases and customs that are clearly outdated and based in a draconian mindset of the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 04:17 PM
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Yes. When you change subject to avoid confronting a flaw in your logic you do open yourself of to criticism of doing that. Assumptions are what happens when you don’t communicate well. For instance if you said something about women’s problems and I quickly dismissed them by saying “men also have problems” you would probably assume that I didn’t want to concede your point about women’s issues. So yeah you can’t just say something isn’t a legitimate criticism because it’s based on assumption. Your…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 03:30 PM
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Not denying that. Still agreeing with you. I do feel the need to defend POC men here and say you’re still not fully giving them the grace they deserve on this issue. Saying “I’ve got it hard too” is what you’re attempting to shame me for…. But it’s exactly what you’re doing right now…. It’s a deflection of the issue. Also do you like the feeling of people’s prejudice? Your remarks make it seem that you don’t… so I’m confused what your point is. You seem to be minimizing prejudice as a problem, y…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 03:01 PM
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Gladly, I have always been quite feminist and egalitarian. Sometimes too much so for so-called feminist/enlightened women. I think a lot of women say they want an egalitarian future but they haven’t done the internal work to accept men who are really working towards that. Those men are often perceived as whiny/weak/feminine.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 02:43 PM
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Yes and through a lens of intersectionality I’m sure we can all see how tough it must be to navigate these situations as a black man. Jeepers, that’s gotta be so challenging.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 02:28 PM
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I just disagree categorically because it’s 2026 and we could all just decide to live differently. I don’t see any assumptions in the OP that can’t be fixed with a little mindset shift.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 02:06 PM
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This is important. The danger aspect. I find women have no clue what it’s like to be feared as a default. I have asked this question to women on here before who have described strategies that depending on the perspective could be seen as stalking or taking advantage. They just don’t see it that way because they have never reckoned with what it is like to be perceived as default violent and predatory.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 02:02 PM
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So you think it’s wrong to shame and cajole people to change their preferences?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 08:24 PM
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I think there is nothing draconian or dystopian about encouraging people to value content of character more highly than big tits or a trust fund. My pops always said “it’s a tool not a toy” and “think with the right brain” I never felt oppressed it was just pretty wholesome advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 05:36 PM
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That’s great. According to your logic, if you have ever found someone attractive without knowing them personally then you are guilty of objectification. I’m sure you’ll say “I would never” but I find that hard to believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 05:16 PM
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I agree. I don’t think it’s wrong to be horny about someone as long as you’re being a kind and considerate person.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 05:07 PM
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So you do find them attractive and the tipping point for you is the utility and fungibility? Because if that is the case then I think you do actually agree with OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 04:38 PM
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So finding someone attractive who you know nothing about. Is that objectification? Because I would call that too broad of a definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 04:34 PM
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I think that is true. Do you find any celebrities attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 04:30 PM
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Well the OP is pretty specific that objectification exists and the people who do it are real psychopaths. Your vehement disagreement with a point that OP specifically countered in the first line of the post is real cognitive dissonance. It does imply that you think that all sex is objectification. If you didn’t think that then your response would have been something like “yeah bad people do ruin good things for the rest of us”
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 04:27 PM
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I think admitting that bad people do bad things is not proof that the definition of objectification includes normal, healthy, human sexuality. If that’s what you were trying to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 04:16 PM
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Exactly, that’s my point. I don’t feel any need to deflect, deny, or dismiss legitimate criticisms of people just because I have the same plumbing. We can absolutely criticize PEOPLE who say “I am vegan, AND my favorite restaurant is Mikes Mega Meat Mansion”
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 03:50 PM
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I think every time a gal says “men are so shallow they should really value content of character more than big tits” Then turns around and vehemently defends her inalienable right to have a preference for (whatever it is) Another cynical red pill troll gets created. I don’t think it’s necessarily red pilled trad con chicks shouting online that red pill most of these guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 03:35 PM
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Yes and I’d call those people hypocrites. I agree that’s dumb I shan’t defend it. See how easy that is? I don’t feel any need to defend that the way you have so eloquently put it “nana nana boo boo, boys do it too too”
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 03:28 PM
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Eh I’d argue that there are many ladies who claim to be enlightened, modern people who still have an attraction bias towards a classically masculine archetype. Just based off my life experience being raised by, surrounded by, and romantically involved with these types of enlightened ladies.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 03:15 PM
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This all just boils down to “do you want the world to be fair or honest?”
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 02:06 PM
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I think that neither success, status, or attractiveness has any bearing on whether you’re a good person. I think that the nice guy/bad boy BS is due to the fact that people have spun narratives that make normal behavior seem bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 01:52 PM
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Hey man all I’m trying to say is you might waste a lot of energy with the “what is a true feminist” thing. If you focused on the issues more clearly it could save you some time and lead to better conversations that facilitate understanding.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 06:20 PM
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Anyone can label themselves as a feminist though. There’s no committee to ensure that they truly are. As long as people are willing to denounce bad actors in their group and proceed to talk about the real problem then that’s all I care about. That would go something like “okay if that is an extreme example, then how about the general tendency to use negative buzzwords to describe a man in a given situation and positive buzzwords to describe a woman in the same situation” which is more common and…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 05:02 PM
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I agree but I don’t want anyone to think that they should just sit back and wait for a gal to choose you. You gotta slang that charm and put yourself out there to determine her level of interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 04:44 PM
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I just don’t think it’s productive. Like I said I agree with your point but bringing up the “destroy all men” crowd weakens it because it’s too easy to dismiss. I think few, very extreme feminists do indeed think these awful things. Yet I think more widespread is the tendency to just criticize with negative buzzwords the behaviors of men and support with positive buzzwords the behaviors of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 04:37 PM
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Eh I try not to judge a group by its worst actors. That being said I do find it is more socially acceptable these days to criticize men and their behavior. Even if it is totally normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 04:20 PM
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I don’t like this example but I do find that progressive/feminist women do tend to appreciate the “classically masculine” archetype more than they say they do. I think that is a legitimate criticism
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 02:43 PM
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Can’t we be better though? If my friend let some gal ruin his life because she was a 10/10 succubus I’d probably be counseling him to leave her. I wouldn’t be giving him all this grace like “well it’s natural, man just keep doing what you’re doing. Maybe buy some cheap used tires so it’s not such a loss when she inevitably slashes them again” I think we really SHOULD value content of character more. Is that crazy?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 02:36 PM
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Yeah that’s dumb. I would never argue that. My pushback is that I think it is perfectly fine to criticize trends that lead to negative outcomes for society.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 02:32 PM
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I think the wording you used is a little confrontational. This could all be summed up as “certain positive behaviors are discouraged for both sexes based on whether they fit the associated gender archetype, and thats fucked up, man” Like a man being a little risk averse, polite, and humble is a good thing probably. Yet for some reason when you ask someone to describe a sexy “manly man” it’s always a bold, confident, risk taker. A tv trope I LOATHE! Is the one where a good guy breaks bad and all …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 02:18 PM
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Yea there are stronger societal stigmas about men’s sexual fluidity. The irony is that many people pretend to be all woke but a scenario like you describe would absolutely turn them off. It raises the question, at what point is the rigid avoidance of a thing an indication of a moral judgement of a thing. “I’m not homophobic I just find it nauseating to think about my boyfriend being bi” You can extrapolate from there. Where is the tipping point?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 03:56 PM
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Well what’s frustrating is that as a hot nerd I can kinda exist in both realms. It’s frustrating to see what works to get laid and how it’s kinda the opposite of what I was taught about being a gentleman, vs the “good behavior” seems to get you that BB treatment. I ask you this, why can’t being responsible, kind, honest, and humble be sexy? Like couldn’t we all just decide to find having a well funded 401k sexier than debt on a hellcat/ducati?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 03:44 PM
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“We aren’t all….” Well that’s the issue the advice rarely has much nuance to it It’s “wait for direct communication and consent, never assume interest based on anything, ever, other than explicit communication” Or “never approach at XYZ location” Ladies how often have you walked up to a guy and said “just so you know I find you attractive and I’m very open to you flirting with and courting me romantically” or “hey stranger, so you know I’m the kinda gal who is open to being hit on at the gym, th…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 03:37 PM
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