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Yeah, but you need to compare people in order to choose. If i have two guys I like l, and I am expected to choose 1, how can I choose only 1 if I am not able to compare them?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 07:05 PM
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Like men, women can also be extroverts and introverts and what they like in a partner depends entirely on how they like to spend their time. Which is why an extroverted women tends to be happier with extroverted men and vice versa (Not saying there can't be intermingling and middle areas)
/r/seduction06/08/26 05:14 PM

Yeah, so, if someone breaks the vows, then you can divorce them. But most people wouldn't make a vow for tjings like sex as mental ir physical disorders can change your ability to do things
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 05:10 PM

What do you mean? Because we are often expected to give up our hopes and dreams and careers in order to allow a man to follow his while getting a family Ie, he gets a family and still gets to work and have friends outside of family life
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 05:10 PM

This is how life works. We compare everything. Its why we have borders. Others vs us. You know what you like and don't like in a partner because of your past experiences. Do you like an overly silly woman who can't take anything seriously and needs to make a joke about everything? Maybe you would date a woman at first and then learn you can't stand this And another woman comes by and is the exact same, wouldn't you be comparing her to your ex and understand you may not want to give this new woma…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 03:25 PM

It is marriage. If you're unhappy and the person keeps refusing sex, the only 2 options for you is deal with it and be miserable, leave, or rape your partner (edit, if after you talk to them and they keep refusing)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 03:05 PM

I don't think so. No one is entitled to friendship or relationships, so adding any qualifiers still makes it not true. If your relationship is unhealthy, ie no sex, then leave. You cannot say "im entitled to a healthy relationship" as a means to get the other person to do better. Your only option is to leave because you're not entitled to that relationship working out or being a good relationship You got into it. Get out of it The idea that the other person needs to buck up because you deserve a…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 03:03 PM

We are considered maids and brood mares for a lot of men. We have a whole history of women legally being property for a shit ass long time. So, we literally did have a "one purpose" which was to serve men and breed his heirs. And that was it. So, asking us if we'd like to go back to this is a little weird since the obvious answer is no Men are a little behind on what a lot of feminists are talking about. I shouldn't need a man for a fulfilling and independent life where all of my basic needs are…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 02:52 PM
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You're creating a fake wave or sect of feminism as a way to say that feminism, in general, is bad. I can say "religions are bad because what if one forms and it is entirely about cannibalism" Like. That means that religion is bad and not religion.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 02:43 PM
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This is so "im worried about women harming themselves with their own free will" Its the same argument a lot of white people used to keep slaves "Without us owning them, they are too stupid, naive or child like to live on their own and make their own decisions. So, to be kind, we have to subjugate them for their own good" Adult women aren't stupid. We are capable of making our own choices even when they don't benefit you. You think you know better than women thus you and other men should decide o…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 02:36 PM
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The point if freedom isn't that my choices are always good. It means I can make the wrong choices, but at least I am allowed to make them But also, my choices may be seen as moral by some and immoral by others. Hence why freedom is necessary I should not have to make a set of choices because people like you think I live an immoral life Just like your freedoms shouldn't be restricted because another group of people think your lifestyle is immoral. The idea that someone with a moralistic outlook t…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 02:28 PM
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As a woman, I think it have the opposite problem in a way. Women will low key respect your decision (hopefully) and not wanna shack up with you and get in a relationship with you if she wants kids But a lot of men i end up dating think they can change my mind. Like as if their partnership will make me some how desire having children despite me knowing I didn't want them at like 10
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 06:54 PM
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🤣 this is such a generalization. A lot of men and women don't want kids. And a lot of it is the economy
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 06:53 PM
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Its not really a secret. But for women the female gaze tends to be about faahion driven by women and women lead trends vs sexy or attractive outfits and fashion for men. Its like a book club but for beauty, trends, fashion and the like based on what women enjoy vs what men enjoy
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 11:40 PM
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Yeah, this goes for everything. People will always do whatever they want with your precautionary actions or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 08:48 PM
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Yeah, but they can't say anything or do anything because I paid for it. They are unable to argue their way into being entitled to the sex. They were entitled to the sex because they paid
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 08:19 PM
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It removes them using it as a means to exert their entitlement.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 07:44 PM
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No, it doesn't prevent them from the mindset of being entitled to sex because they paid for dinner. But it removes the opportunity to express that entitlement in a very physically harmful way
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 06:45 PM
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100% I feel like guys think women view masculinity in the same way they do. What they value in men, they assume we value that as well. When we don't
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 06:40 PM
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Sure, but I'm not looking for something so much that I am willing to approach strangers who may cause me harm. And yes, in public settings, they are still chances of an altercation. As most men approach us and then harm us for saying no or for whatever reason while in public. Me approaching a man in a public setting doesn't make him any less likely to be safe than if a man approaches me in a public setting In fact if a man approaches me and it goes south, people sre much more likely to help me I…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 06:36 PM
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Yeah, and if i avoid talking to an excessive amount of strangers, I mitigate my risk of bwing harmed by a shit ton. And unfortunately the majority of violent criminals and sex offenders are men So, as a man, you approaching women has a much lower rate of her murdering you or assaulting you vs me approaching men. I am much more likely to be murdered or assaulted for approaching men than you are when you approach women We carry way more risk as the woman
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 06:33 PM
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In some ways yes and in others not Ie our sexual roles are somewhat fixed. Ie, I am the one who gets pregnant And speaking in terms of heterosexual cis people. These roles sometimes cause other roles to form because of it But beyond that there are so many "men should" "women should" etc that drive me crazy Why can't men do things without being seen as gay or feminine like enjoy fashion and skin care? Or even be a stay at home dad if that's what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 05:42 PM
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A lot of it is bullshit (edit, i don'tmean masculinityis BS. I mean the constant fear of losing it is bs [for men'smental health]). I know some women uphold the concept and structure of this masculinity But as a woman. I don't have to defend my womanhood constantly or feel attacked by non feminine women. Ie, i still feel feminine even if a butch woman hits on me or if someone thinks I am a little masculine. I don't feel like I have to acheive and then fight to my last breath to defend my perceiv…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 05:30 PM
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People are straight. You can emotionally and platonically like your own gender more but that doesn't mean you wanna do the whole gay sex thing
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 05:23 PM
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I really don't think they get how crazy some guys are. If making eye contact with some men makes them think we sre inviting them over for sex, imagine what those men would think if we approached them? Sometimes us talking to guys makes them think we wanna bone them, and this is super dangerous when mixed with entitlement. It would absolutely cause us to be in harms way way more And we'd be extra blamed for our rapes because we approached him.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 05:17 PM
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Exactly, if I am approaching strangers, there's still a chance those guys are bad men, just like there's a chance of the men approaching me might be bad guys You cannot tell who a good guy is by sight. So, me approaching does nothing because I am still approaching an unknown stranger who may or may not be bad. It solves 0 safety issues
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 05:14 PM
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Well, i am an adult. I am not lost. And if i approach men, I am way more likely to be assaulted than if I don't since the bad men take everything as an invite to sexually assault you because you "signaled" to them you wanted it
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 05:08 PM
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No, because even just making eye contact will make some men see that as an invite and get upset if you don't want sex. Some guys take everything as an invite and it gets really dangerous when you refuse that invite Because, just cuz I am approaching doesn't mean I want sex but some bad guys won't get that and assume my approaching them means they can do whatever they want to me and that I now owe them because I showed interest and to them interest=equals an invite and there is no difference to t…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 04:23 PM
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Absolutely not. I am already in danger from being approached. By approaching i increase the threat levels and am less safe. Especially since if i approach men, the bad men will see this as an invite and assume they are entitled to whatever they want from me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 03:46 PM
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Ok, but no one who disagrees should feel like they have to side with OP just cuz op needs validation
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 11:52 PM
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Not to the point they need everyone to agree with them. Sometimes you have to make the tough choices cuz its what you need even if others don't understand
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 10:23 PM
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Yall realize you can end any relationship for any reason. You needing to feel validated about it by others is what is weird
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 09:35 PM

He thinks all women should look the way he likes. So weird
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 09:29 PM

Why don't people around me appeal specifically to my desires Newsflash women like to wear their hair in different ways and not all men are like you and like a woman with her hair up. Your desires are not universal
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 07:36 PM
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But it has, as i have just told you
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 04:26 PM
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You're just arguing that because it doesn't help you it isn't helpful in general
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 04:21 PM
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Well, it has helped me and many other women just like driving my own car to the date has also help me avoid dangerous situations
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 04:05 PM
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Yeah, exactly and that looks different for every woman, and making women feel like we are agreeing with male entitlement to sex because of the way we do what is right for us is kind of victim blamey or a slippery slope to it
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 03:58 PM
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That's fine for you. But for women who have faced issues with paying for our own dates, its just a psychological preventative we have to do in order to feel safe. Sorry we have like PTSD and shit and now not do the thing that made us feel unsafe. Yeah, its not the action of not paying that made us unsafe. It is the men's entitlement But we are humans. Our brains are wired to avoid pain. If we get bit by a rattlesnake and live, we avoid the sounds of all rattles, snake or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 03:50 PM
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I am not saying we do. I am saying that to mitigate assault we sometimes have to be proactive, but that doesn't mean we are saying women who aren't proactive are deserving of said assault. If doing X to mitigate a rape or assault from happening doesn't mean i believe the entitlement men have around sex because of X is valid. I don't think men are valid for thinking paying for dates makes their entitlement valkd But I don't wanna have to take another plan b and HIV prep/prevention for a month bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 03:43 PM
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But I have, I have had men assault me because them paying made them feel entitled to sex with me Mitigating their entitlement means mitigating potential assault Men's entitlement is usually what causes them to assault us women
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 03:28 PM
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But with the entitlement comes assault Guys don't assault without the entitlement. The entitlement causes the assault
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 03:21 PM
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It does though. I refuse to let men insist on paying anymore and its a huge red flag to me now
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 02:59 PM
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Me mitigating a bad reaction doesn't mean I am agreeing that the action of non mitigation means a man has a right to hurt me Ie, me carrying pepper spray isn't me saying that men have the right to do whatever they want to women who don't carry pepper spray Me taking a precaution to avoid being physically assaulted like I have been, for not paying, is not me agreeing with the man's idea that he is entitled to me if he pays
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 02:55 PM
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This doesn't make sense. If i decide to drive myself to the date vs being picked up, so I can leave on my own watch if things go bad, doesn't mean I am expressing that I think that if he drove me there, it gives him the right to treat me badly. I am just mitigating potential issues and assault
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 02:49 PM
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Because from my experience i personally like things equal and don't mind paying Because it gives me more agency and independence from said man. Its like driving to the date vs having them pick you up. It just gives you more freedom and agency to get out safely if things go wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 02:45 PM
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That is your experience because you aren't going on dates with men who insist on paying then insist this gives them the right to do whatever they want to you
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 02:43 PM
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I can't reject the rule until I know a man is operating by that rule and I don't know that until after the meal is paid for. Its almost like some dogs bite you out of the blue when they actually were calm 2 seconds ago
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 01:34 PM
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Because I have been physically assaulted because a man paid and felt owed. So, when I go on firat dates with strangers it mitigates me from almost dying again
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 01:26 PM
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This is so goal past moving. Men feel entitled to our bodies and harass or assault us just because they pay for a meal for us In order to counter act this issue, ie to stop ourselves from being assaulted or harassed or shamed etc, we pay for our half so the man can't use him paying for everything as a reason to try and have sex with us and yell at us and be rude as fuck. Blaming the woman for the men's entitlement to sex after he paid for a meal is why we women feel so defiant about sex on the f…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 01:20 PM

No, its like having a job and spending money When you are 18 and have your first real job with freedom, you buy dumb shit and almost never invest. You pay rent. Buy pizza and random ass shit that get thrown into the landfill eventually As you grow older and get a better job and learn from your past poor spending habits. You learn financial literacy and begin having a deeper appreciation for it and taking finances more seriously. Until you're fully developed and have no real urge to spend on non …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 03:26 AM

There are men in have fucked i wouldn't bring home to my families. Not because I think they are bad men. Great boyfriends for other women but I don't introduce casual guys to my parents. Often times, the man has nothing to do with whether or not we want a relationship or just sex. It depends entirely on ojr ovulation cycle and or if we wanna settle down and do the whole family or marriage thing Like I have met many guys who'd if I was 5 years older, would have tried to date seriously but because…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 03:18 AM

That's not true
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 01:01 AM
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You're acting as if someone can trick someone into a legal marriage. Both people have to agree they are common law married. It just means people who live together as a couple, who view each other as husband and wife, who do not want the government or a religious institution to be involved with their marriage. It isn't just living together. It is about acting as husband and wife while living together. If you're together for 70 years and live together you're not considered common law married if ya…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 11:51 PM
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The concept of actual common law marriage is where BOTH couples declare themselves married without the INTERFERENCE of state or religion because they cohabitate and act as a married couple. That is why mostly only red states, it is still legal Its basically a couple saying "fuck you government. We have been living together for 45 years and have 3 kids and a house together. We don't need your fancy documents and you butting your government hands into our lives" It is something both people are agr…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 11:47 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 11:45 PM
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"The original concept of a "common-law" marriage is one considered valid by both partners, but not formally recorded with a state or religious registry, nor celebrated in a formal civil or religious service. In effect, the act of the couple representing themselves to others as being married and organizing their relationship as if they were married, means they are married."
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 11:44 PM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common-law_marriage I don't think you understand common law marriage
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 11:43 PM
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What you're advocating is that women shouldn't depend on men period. Amd that if they do, it needs to be stated in their marriage contract that if things end they get X amount of assets and money so she isn't left in poverty. Ie, the house
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 11:40 PM
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Because that's not the point of it. It is meant to protect people who may have pooled recourse into a dwelling via paying for the mortgage etc amd bills if things end. Ie if you and your gf buy a house together, and it is under her name and you pay half or most of the mortgage every year then she cheats on you before you decide to get officially married, why should you be left without some form of legal compensation? If you have proof of long term cohabitation and financial stakes in the relatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 11:37 PM
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People know common law exists. Just don't live together
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 11:29 PM
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You can by law, not get in a regular marriage or a common law marriage. Both are choices. That no one is forced into
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 10:57 PM
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You should listen to the individual about what they find attractive at least especially if you're trying to attract that individual I think some guys want a catch all that works for everyone and dislike having to genuinely treat women as individuals
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 10:07 PM
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Sure. I guess. You have the right to believe that and I have the right to believe the opposite
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 09:46 PM
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This seems like a people thing. Men also loose interest quickly too. People in general just aren't tolerating mistakes or orange flags anymore and not communicating what the other person can do/not do to make things better. People often would rather leave than express what's wrong and give the person a chance to fox things. It's really not a gendered thing
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 06:13 PM
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ONS are so easy to most guys and they are soooo easy themselves and they think something so shallow and easy as a ONS is something cool. Its like someone renting a Ferrari to be cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 05:10 PM
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Also, idk where my other comment went But if I want a long term relationship, I am not going to match with any man who has "short term" on his page. I am only looking at men who only have "looking for long term" Because I am not open to short Edit: from my perspective it looks like the men i have dealt with when I have been looking for short term and long term Some men will say yes to a short term with you, and then fall in love and get mad you don't want a relationship with them So, they don't …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 04:53 PM
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Ok? Men who want casual sex should go for it but not feel like a victim when women want a long term relationship and stay away from short term or one night stands. Because a one night stand is mainly only beneficial for men. So, there are less women willing to risk so much for such a low chance of a reward
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 04:52 PM
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No, I think calling people gay for loke normal human activity is causing way more harm
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 04:42 PM
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I mean, I am not. And not tons of women. But men tend to care less about how they physically appeal to women than women care about appealing to men, or at least the standard beauty standards A lot of men do not try to be physically attractive. And what they end up doing is often only something men find cool (being super buff)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 04:34 PM
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But this discourage straight men from being sexy and exploring fashion and things and being considerate because they don't wanna be perceived as gay And no, that isn't homophobic. Straight people don't want to come off as gay to the sex they are trying to attract
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 04:32 PM
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None of this is gay. Being considerate isnt being gay and making yourself sexually appealing as a man or expressing yourself as you like also isn't gay
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 04:22 PM
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Exactly. Men who pay often end up expecting us to put out like cheap hookers
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 04:13 PM

That's absolutely not true a lot of those guys who are unattractive also just want sex and don't have honest intentions Being an unattractive man doesn't automatically make you a nice guy. A lot of those guys are still guys and just want casual sex
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 01:10 PM
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Board shorts? Imo no, but like running athletic shorter shorts? Yes. I like wjen men dress like they have a body that can be sexualized. Sometimes guys just wear boxy ill fitting clothes, and its not unattractive but just bleh
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 01:05 AM
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I mean, yeah. How can I know your personality without knowing you for a bit, hence why I wait to have sex so I can see if the man is actually someone I wanna have sex with
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 02:52 PM
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Yeah, I have been emotionally abused by my ex and understand my baggage. But also I don't care too much if someone doesn't wanna date me for it I am aware of it and know how to cope some things. But I get it. I personally wouldn't wanna date a man with cheating trauma and who has trust issues. I have very little patience for being questioned and having my privacy invaded due to these trust issues Sure, if they worked past the trauma I could see myself maybe dating them. But I can't deal with a m…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 02:38 PM
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So, what type of personality do you find attractive and why?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 01:26 AM
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I guess the view from women is that men will conversely say they care about things like body count and personality then go after and give all of their money and attention to literal sex workers and or absolute hoes. Like the hottest but most butchy gold digger women end up rich and happy because men give them their money. So, why not just become a bitchy gold digger as they seem the happiest
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 12:19 AM
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You know what you like. Same with men. Men know what turns them off even if they can't pinpoint it to a microscopic reasoning
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