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1	What is masculinity? There can be specific forms of bad behavior expected of men, which is why it's useful to explore that in the context of masculinity. Violence is an example since women don't face the same kind of social expectations to be violent. I'm totally onboard that masculinity is a social phenomena and changes over time. Maybe there are some core biological related aspects that don't change (men being stronger, and the cultural expectations that flow from that). But most things associated with masculinity…	/r/MensRights	02/03/24 06:19 AM
1	What is masculinity? But masculinity is closely linked to gender roles. Because masculinity exists also as expectations. When someone tells a boy to "be more manly" or "be less effeminate", that is a statement about expectations. The speaker is saying that the boy is currently not masculine enough, and should try to be more masculine. This shows two things. First, the definition you are offering does not match up with how people deal with masculinity. If masculinity is simply what men experience, then why do people …	/r/MensRights	01/03/24 02:48 AM
1	What is masculinity? These assorted quotes are very messy, so I'm going to consolidate. First, everything is open to criticism. Certainly including characteristics. If someone is characteristically racist, we should have no problems making a moral criticism of that. Further, and perhaps more deeply, masculinity is not merely about characteristics. It's also about conduct and behavior - you directly admit this when you entertain the behavior of a man putting on a dress is capable of being part of masculinity. The mor…	/r/MensRights	29/02/24 06:37 PM
1	What is masculinity? The moral value of an action, attribute, or quality is determined not by those things in themselves but by the contextual information around them. Well yes, but this doesn't address the point I am making. The list of "masculine boxes" are open to criticism of being toxic and positive, and obviously in that assessment we are applying our own contextual information about them. E.g. Killing people, is evil in modern society. You're transplanting values, principles, and priorities from the present a…	/r/MensRights	29/02/24 03:23 PM
1	Feminists actually perpetuate hypermasculinity all the time, and they use the phrase "toxic masculinity" to trick people into thinking they oppose it. It's a phrase used simply to demonize men. ttps://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-7732557/The-women-demonised-championing-mens-rights.html she said it This is what the article says - She became a hate figure for saying so. 'They branded me a 'victim blamer'. 'After a bomb scare, the police suggested my post be sent to them for inspection.'. She doesn't say who sent the death threats. again, contact sexual violence means groping and sexual coercion not just rape Yeah. Isn't that the correct approach, so that acts against men are not li…	/r/MensRights	29/02/24 06:44 AM
0	Feminists actually perpetuate hypermasculinity all the time, and they use the phrase "toxic masculinity" to trick people into thinking they oppose it. It's a phrase used simply to demonize men. As I said, this is going in circles because instead of proving your own sources, you ask me to "look it up". I go look it up, and bring back all kinds of information showing that you are wrong. Instead of showing sources that will show you are right, you again ask me to look it up. I find more information showing you are wrong. You will feel much less exhausted if you just showed the evidence of what you are claiming. Look it up militant feminists Erin pizzey she said it was feminists who the fu…	/r/MensRights	29/02/24 05:39 AM
1	Feminists actually perpetuate hypermasculinity all the time, and they use the phrase "toxic masculinity" to trick people into thinking they oppose it. It's a phrase used simply to demonize men. I'm actually really puzzled why you expect me to do research to support your arguments. They are your points, your burden to prove. I've given you plenty of links showing why I think your argument is wrong. I think it is a bit strange that the best you can do is to reply to me to "look it up" myself. I have looked it up, and all the data disagrees with what you are saying. last year prevalence is equal What is your source for this? All the sources I see put women as more affected by rape. This (…	/r/MensRights	29/02/24 05:15 AM
0	Feminists actually perpetuate hypermasculinity all the time, and they use the phrase "toxic masculinity" to trick people into thinking they oppose it. It's a phrase used simply to demonize men. Look at past year prevalence it’s on the rise On the rise does not mean that men are affected equally as women. On the rise just means the incident of affect men has increased. The CDC figure I cited above is from 2022 (just 2 years ago), and it quite clearly says - Over half of women and almost 1 in 3 men have experienced sexual violence. And she probably heard them say themselves hey I’m a feminist but not their specific name Come now this is entirely your own speculation. She said it: feminis…	/r/MensRights	29/02/24 05:02 AM
0	Feminists actually perpetuate hypermasculinity all the time, and they use the phrase "toxic masculinity" to trick people into thinking they oppose it. It's a phrase used simply to demonize men. In your article, she said it herself that the calls were anonymous. I have looked up the male statistics. Here's the CDC on made to penetrate from 2020: About 1 in 14 men in the U.S. were made to penetrate someone during their lifetime. Here is the CDC on women in 2022, all of the stats show that women are more affected than men: Sexual violence is common. Over half of women and almost 1 in 3 men have experienced sexual violence involving physical contact during their lifetimes. One in 4 women a…	/r/MensRights	29/02/24 04:57 AM
1	What is masculinity? However, wouldn't you agree that the specific set of "boxes" that you tick in order to be deemed masculine, is surely open to criticism as being toxic or positive. Hannibal, for example, was a violent man in a violent age. We can look at that and say that in today's context, propensity to violence (and/or holding a life long generational grudge passed down from your dad) is bad. If someone is selling that as a brand of masculinity, then what's the difficulty in calling that toxic? Or the other e…	/r/MensRights	29/02/24 04:34 AM
0	Feminists actually perpetuate hypermasculinity all the time, and they use the phrase "toxic masculinity" to trick people into thinking they oppose it. It's a phrase used simply to demonize men. The statistics I got was from the CDC in 2020. What numbers are you referring to showing that "just as many men have experienced it" in 2023? You might want to read that article. Erin writes that the threats were anonymous - Despite attacks in the Press from feminist journalists and threatening anonymous telephone calls, I continued to argue that violence was a learned pattern of behaviour from early childhood. I don't doubt that many objected to what Erin was saying. My objections and death…	/r/MensRights	29/02/24 04:30 AM
1	Feminists actually perpetuate hypermasculinity all the time, and they use the phrase "toxic masculinity" to trick people into thinking they oppose it. It's a phrase used simply to demonize men. I'm not at liberty to post identifying information. Well, you are at liberty to post whatever information you want. You have chosen not to. And that's your choice to make. But you'll also understand that without the context you are relying on, then I can't see how much exactly you have spent time talking to and understanding feminist organizations. Masculinity is not a behavior. Masculinity is the aggregate qualities and attributes of the male experience. On its own it is no more moral or immora…	/r/MensRights	28/02/24 06:36 PM
1	Feminists actually perpetuate hypermasculinity all the time, and they use the phrase "toxic masculinity" to trick people into thinking they oppose it. It's a phrase used simply to demonize men. Naive. You're not listening. I'm listening. I went to look up your claim. I gave you my findings. I think men face real problems, we don't need to come up with a non factual problem foreskin harvesting. You mean the feminist organizations in my home city who united against domestic violence shelters for men Link me a news article. I'm interested to read about this. Masculinity is neither positive nor negative, it just is. Masculinity is a form of social behavior just like a bunch of other things…	/r/MensRights	28/02/24 04:38 PM
1	Feminists actually perpetuate hypermasculinity all the time, and they use the phrase "toxic masculinity" to trick people into thinking they oppose it. It's a phrase used simply to demonize men. This discussion has gone nowhere because you've unfortunately just keep asking me to "look it up" when I ask you for some substantiation. Just as an example, I looked up made to penetrate. The CDC figures say that "About 1 in 14 men in the U.S. were made to penetrate someone during their lifetime." The same source, the CDC, says that 1 in 5 women have been raped. Needless to say 1 in 14 is not the same as 1 in 5, making your claim that "women rape men just as much" problematic. It's the same thi…	/r/MensRights	28/02/24 11:06 AM
1	Feminists actually perpetuate hypermasculinity all the time, and they use the phrase "toxic masculinity" to trick people into thinking they oppose it. It's a phrase used simply to demonize men. Where does she say the death threats are from feminists, because I can't find that. It’s self evident I don’t need to cite statistics Are you really satisfied with such a tenuous amount of evidence? I'm sure you do not put much stock into arguments that it is "self evident" that men are violent rapists, who cares about statistics.	/r/MensRights	28/02/24 06:45 AM
1	Feminists actually perpetuate hypermasculinity all the time, and they use the phrase "toxic masculinity" to trick people into thinking they oppose it. It's a phrase used simply to demonize men. If you want to claim that feminists dismiss it, then I'd like some substantiation. What incidents are you referring to about dismissal? She received threats, I'm not disputing that. I'm pointing out that there is no evidence that these threats came from feminists. It's just a general statement of threats.	/r/MensRights	28/02/24 04:24 AM
1	Feminists actually perpetuate hypermasculinity all the time, and they use the phrase "toxic masculinity" to trick people into thinking they oppose it. It's a phrase used simply to demonize men. I have looked it up, this is what her wiki says - Pizzey says that she has been the subject of death threats and boycotts because her experience and research into the issue led her to conclude that most domestic violence is reciprocal, and that women are as capable of violence as men. Are you able to show that the death threats came from feminists? feminists have fought tooth and nail to deny that domestic abuse is a gender symmetrical crime Feminists, specifically modern feminism, has been talk…	/r/MensRights	28/02/24 03:37 AM
0	Feminists actually perpetuate hypermasculinity all the time, and they use the phrase "toxic masculinity" to trick people into thinking they oppose it. It's a phrase used simply to demonize men. You're right that aware is not all feminism, but then surely that same logic also means that all feminism is also not defined by the bad example of Scottish Women's Aid. Like think about it for a bit - are you really so certain that ALL feminist outside of Singapore don't care about men's rights? Like the whole world? Have you spoken or studied about all feminist groups world wide? Yes she received death threats she had to flee the U.K. look it up The wiki says she received death threats from un…	/r/MensRights	28/02/24 02:58 AM
1	Feminists actually perpetuate hypermasculinity all the time, and they use the phrase "toxic masculinity" to trick people into thinking they oppose it. It's a phrase used simply to demonize men. Well how many feminist organizations have you really looked at or talked to, beyond simple just whatever the internet says about them? I would agree that toxic masculinity is blaming men, IF there's no recognition of positive masculinity. But there clearly is. And if the concept understands that there is positive male behavior, how is it saying that men are to blame for everything? And nope. Positive masculinity, as this group discusses, is primarily a benefit for men. Being in touch with your e…	/r/MensRights	28/02/24 02:54 AM
1	Feminists actually perpetuate hypermasculinity all the time, and they use the phrase "toxic masculinity" to trick people into thinking they oppose it. It's a phrase used simply to demonize men. AWARE's website literally calls themself feminist. It's not just a women's group. I don't get why you are trying to tell me that a feminist group I'm personally familiar with, is not feminist. You can just Google AWARE and Feminist and see all the feminism workshops this group does - https://www.google.com/search?q=aware+feminisn&client=ms-android-sonymobile-rvo3&sca_esv=992d05270e954243&sxsrf=ACQVn08x5SfQUMIjxGKy6oi4MO1XMq5ayQ%3A1709087592796&ei=aJveZYWNMMOv4-EPsY23sA0&udm=&oq=aware+feminisn&gs…	/r/MensRights	28/02/24 02:39 AM
1	Feminists actually perpetuate hypermasculinity all the time, and they use the phrase "toxic masculinity" to trick people into thinking they oppose it. It's a phrase used simply to demonize men. That’s not necessarily a FEMINIST group This is such a weird claim because I already gave you a link to aware's homepage where they completely identify themselves as feminist. In case you missed it - AWARE provides a feminist perspective in the national dialogue. It has effectively advocated against laws, public policies and mindsets that discriminate against women. AWARE has contributed towards the strengthening of laws dealing with domestic violence. https://www.aware.org.sg/about/#:~:text=AWA…	/r/MensRights	27/02/24 06:51 PM
1	Feminists actually perpetuate hypermasculinity all the time, and they use the phrase "toxic masculinity" to trick people into thinking they oppose it. It's a phrase used simply to demonize men. You would bet poorly, it's right there in the article - In her third IPS-Nathan Lecture last year, Ms Corinna Lim, executive director of the Association of Women for Action and Research (Aware), had also called for NS to be made gender-neutral, and expanded beyond the traditional domains of the army, navy, air force and police.	/r/MensRights	27/02/24 06:36 PM
1	Feminists actually perpetuate hypermasculinity all the time, and they use the phrase "toxic masculinity" to trick people into thinking they oppose it. It's a phrase used simply to demonize men. Again you don't have to believe me. Here's a news report of the organization asking publicly for our conscription laws to be gender neutral, and then that issue being debated in parliament - https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/politics/cost-of-enlisting-women-into-ns-even-in-non-military-roles-far-outweighs-benefits-ng-eng-hen Singapore isn't unique. We inherited a British system, we speak English. We're probably the most westernized country in Asia. But maybe your experience is different, su…	/r/MensRights	27/02/24 06:32 PM
1	Feminists actually perpetuate hypermasculinity all the time, and they use the phrase "toxic masculinity" to trick people into thinking they oppose it. It's a phrase used simply to demonize men. I've done it, and as I said, they aren't bigots against men. Toxic Masculinity is not blaming masculinity for all of society's problems. The organization in question fully supports positive examples of masculine behavior. Men being able to talk about male vulnerability is essential to allow men to be emotional and vulnerable. I mean, in this thread, you have people pointing out that men are not taken seriously when they are being emotional or vulnerable.	/r/MensRights	27/02/24 06:09 PM
1	Feminists actually perpetuate hypermasculinity all the time, and they use the phrase "toxic masculinity" to trick people into thinking they oppose it. It's a phrase used simply to demonize men. I've already said in my first post to you that I can only speak from my own personal observations. I've also followed AWARE closely - they bring all of these policy proposals to parliament and government as well. Since we are talking about personal observations, I guess this is a useful point to ask again if you're able to tell me which feminist organizations you say send death threats?	/r/MensRights	27/02/24 06:06 PM
1	Feminists actually perpetuate hypermasculinity all the time, and they use the phrase "toxic masculinity" to trick people into thinking they oppose it. It's a phrase used simply to demonize men. Nope, haven't blocked you.	/r/MensRights	27/02/24 03:08 PM
1	Feminists actually perpetuate hypermasculinity all the time, and they use the phrase "toxic masculinity" to trick people into thinking they oppose it. It's a phrase used simply to demonize men. You don't have to believe me, you can go look at the policy position page of the organization right here - https://www.aware.org.sg/about/policy-and-position-statements/#:~:text=We%20support%20the%20rights%20of,it%20does%20not%20harm%20others . Some illustrative examples: Spousal maintenance should be based on fairness and need, not gender. National Service [Edit - this is our country's conscription that currently only affects men] should include more options than military service, and men and w…	/r/MensRights	27/02/24 03:06 PM
1	Feminists actually perpetuate hypermasculinity all the time, and they use the phrase "toxic masculinity" to trick people into thinking they oppose it. It's a phrase used simply to demonize men. Actually my local feminist organization advocates for gender neutral laws, including for child maintenance in divorce cases. They also don't send death threats to anyone. Which feminist organizations are you referring to that are sending death threats to male victim advocates?	/r/MensRights	27/02/24 02:53 PM
1	Feminists actually perpetuate hypermasculinity all the time, and they use the phrase "toxic masculinity" to trick people into thinking they oppose it. It's a phrase used simply to demonize men. Feminist organizations use the internet as a tool to achieve real life change. That's why the best way to actually see what feminists are doing is to go to these real life organizations and see what they do. Relying solely on online discourse is missing half if not more of the picture.	/r/MensRights	27/02/24 02:49 PM
2	Feminists actually perpetuate hypermasculinity all the time, and they use the phrase "toxic masculinity" to trick people into thinking they oppose it. It's a phrase used simply to demonize men. Singapore	/r/MensRights	27/02/24 12:38 PM
0	Feminists actually perpetuate hypermasculinity all the time, and they use the phrase "toxic masculinity" to trick people into thinking they oppose it. It's a phrase used simply to demonize men. If we expect to be treated fairly, then why shouldn't you care about what is fair? Online spaces are online spaces. They are an imperfect representation about what people really are like. I mean if you believed reddit, Ukraine would have won the war by now, and China is going to go bankrupt and day now.	/r/MensRights	27/02/24 09:28 AM
-11	Feminists actually perpetuate hypermasculinity all the time, and they use the phrase "toxic masculinity" to trick people into thinking they oppose it. It's a phrase used simply to demonize men. We're in a post, talking about what feminists allegedly think about men. Clearly people care.	/r/MensRights	27/02/24 08:55 AM
-10	Feminists actually perpetuate hypermasculinity all the time, and they use the phrase "toxic masculinity" to trick people into thinking they oppose it. It's a phrase used simply to demonize men. Well do you think it's fair for someone to say "I don't read geek literature or talk to geeks in real life, but there's enough articles online to show that they are all incels"?	/r/MensRights	27/02/24 08:54 AM
-24	Feminists actually perpetuate hypermasculinity all the time, and they use the phrase "toxic masculinity" to trick people into thinking they oppose it. It's a phrase used simply to demonize men. I think you sound like you might benefit from speaking with some feminist organizations in real life, and see what they do and what they actually mean when they use terms like the ones you discuss. I can only speak from my own experience, but the most prominent feminist group in my country: Does not virgin shame, do not talk about small penises (tbh I hear more men talk about that), have been historical allies of the LBGT movement and are not homophobic, have workshops that allow men to particip…	/r/MensRights	27/02/24 07:35 AM
-3	Military Draft I'm just pointing out the Government's position. It is not my position. I actually agree with the feminist group's view - everyone should be conscripted. So actually I'm not sure what you are referring to when you say "Suddenly in these scenarios feminists are aware that men are stronger but men earning more due to working harder and more dangerous jobs is a "pay gap" that needs to be fixed" - the feminists in this case are aware that men are stronger but think women should be conscripted anyway…	/r/MensRights	21/02/24 09:20 AM
-6	Military Draft I'd like to share a feminist perspective on this. I'm from a country with mandatory conscription of 2 years for men only. So to be clear this isn't a conceptual draft. Every boy at 18 is guaranteed to be conscripted and then given 2 years of military training. The issue of whether women should be included is discussed very often. Interestingly enough, the most vocal local feminist group has long stated that if we have conscription, it should apply to all genders. The feminist perspective is that…	/r/MensRights	21/02/24 04:50 AM
0	Why Does Today’s Media Hate Strong Male Characters? Er if you go watch the movie (edit: Youtube video, lol) you linked up there, the guy specifically mentions several movies from the early 2010s as good examples of male character led movies. I think you might want to go look at the top earning movies for 2012-15. I'm just going to put top three for brevity. Full data at https://www.boxofficemojo.com/year/world/2015/ 2012: The Avengers Skyfall The Dark Knight Rises 2013: Frozen Iron Man 3 Despicable ME 2014: Transformers The Hobbit Battle of 5 Arm…	/r/MensRights	20/02/24 07:11 PM
0	Why Does Today’s Media Hate Strong Male Characters? How are these cherry picked, when they are coming from the top 10 best earning movies from last year? (John Wick was 11, but still)	/r/MensRights	20/02/24 05:18 PM
1	Why Does Today’s Media Hate Strong Male Characters? Would you describe characters like Ethan Hunt (Mission Impossible) or John Wick or Dominic Torreto (Fast X) as dumb and incompetent and requiring female guidance?	/r/MensRights	20/02/24 04:49 PM
1	Why Does Today’s Media Hate Strong Male Characters? If you look at the remainder of the top 200 best earning movies from my link, I can at best only spot a handful more that can be called woke. Meanwhile there's plenty of movies with traditional male main characters. Stuff like John Wick, etc.	/r/MensRights	20/02/24 04:41 PM
0	Why Does Today’s Media Hate Strong Male Characters? I know, which is why I asked you how are movies no 2-9 woke. Because it's a bit difficult to go along with the argument that "movies definitely reflect wokeism" when you can only point to one movie in the top 10 that is actually woke.	/r/MensRights	20/02/24 04:28 PM
0	Why Does Today’s Media Hate Strong Male Characters? I don't think my list is merely making the point that good male characters exist "here and there". Other than Barbie, the top earning movies of the past year have plenty of masculine male roles. To put it more directly, there are plenty of good male characters in the movies from 2023. Thus my point - I don't think the central premise has been established. Are movies really lacking in good male characters? Is there really a broader emasculation of male characters? The top earning movies from last…	/r/MensRights	20/02/24 04:27 PM
0	Why Does Today’s Media Hate Strong Male Characters? Well okay if it's mainly men who play the games, and if the games provide strong male characters, then what exactly is there to complain about? For the movies, how are movies no. 2-9 "woke"? And besides whether they are woke is different from the issue of whether these movies only have "weak men".	/r/MensRights	20/02/24 03:23 PM
1	Why Does Today’s Media Hate Strong Male Characters? I think the video (and the title of the post) fails to establish its main premise. Does today's media actually hate strong male characters? The top grossing movies of 2023 (https://www.boxofficemojo.com/year/2023/): Barbie Super Mario Oppenhiemer Guardians Fast X Spiderverse Wonka Avatar Mission Impossible Elemental From the above, there's a good range of good male characters. You have the standard male macho hero (Mission Impossible), the man protecting his family (Avatar), scrappy young guy st…	/r/MensRights	20/02/24 10:29 AM
-5	Woman decides, man pays You know what's sad, r/sg isn't exactly what I would call feminist to begin with. It is male skewed for demographics. In most threads concerning gender issues, there is clear leaning already against any position that even sounds feminist. In this case, this less than wonderful father has managed to be roundly condemned by an already anti-feminist leaning sub. Yet, the OP thinks that somehow r/sg is clearly full of white knights, and has come here to basically throw Singapore under the bus to hav…	/r/MensRights	16/02/24 10:51 AM
-6	Woman decides, man pays Yes, currently only incapacitated men can apply for maintenance against their ex-wives. That is unfair, and should change. Everyone including feminist groups and the courts are asking the government to change. But so far, for whatever reason, the government has declined. What lawyers? He's unrepresented. The dad was represented when he agreed to bear all education costs. This isn't the first time I'm going to point out that you have simply failed to read the judgment that you are talking about. …	/r/MensRights	16/02/24 10:44 AM
-1	Woman decides, man pays She didn't disclose the costs and financial commitments up till the point she didn't have money. By your own admission this is completely made up speculation. I can get having a personal narrative you wish were true. But you are doing no one favors, including your own country, by completely making stuff up about our family justice system.	/r/MensRights	16/02/24 10:38 AM
-7	Woman decides, man pays It didn't happen. Evidence not being there, does not mean something did not happen. The woman may or may not have discussed the price, we just don't know. It may have been in evidence but the judge left it out of the decision. Like come on, don't make shit up. I'd just include some of your own thoughts on the matter: What was communicated up till this point in terms of the changes in cost and father's liability is up in the air. Quite frankly, be it myself or others in support of the mother, all…	/r/MensRights	16/02/24 10:34 AM
-6	Woman decides, man pays The man agreed, with the benefit of his own lawyers at the time, to paying. And for the love of god, please don't misrepresent you own country. The Women's Charter has been updated as recently as 2023. On the specific issue of child support and custody, the WC is completely gender neutral and treats male and female parents equally. The courts have done away with archaic ideas of the mother being best able to take sole custody. It is literally in the judgment you keep referring to that the modern…	/r/MensRights	16/02/24 10:30 AM
1	Very fucking equal Isn't the real trump card that if you were a woman during ww1 and wanted to fight, you could not since the army (led by men) wouldn't let you? Like... I think the gender inequality in combat deaths seems to be a situation willingly created by the men of the time. I'm even happy to go out on a slightly speculative limb here and say that if you asked Tommy Atkins about whether he would feel better if women were also being sent over the top to die, he would have so gosh no women belong at home.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/06/23 05:22 AM
1	Sorry to ruin Men's Day, but here's a depressing thread about the reality of divorce for my country, Singapore I think it's obligatory to point out that the multiple of anecdote is not evidence, or reality. Not everyone is even saying the same thing either. There's a sizable discussion pointing out that if men chose not to pay their maintenance sums, there is no cost-efficient way to force the payments anyway.	/r/MensRights	19/11/19 09:21 AM
1	Sorry to ruin Men's Day, but here's a depressing thread about the reality of divorce for my country, Singapore Come on, I think you know better than to take this anecdotal "uncle story" (literally) at face value, and worse, as indicative of a wider thread. The story about this uncle (heard indirectly) is not a good indicator of any "reality" in Singapore.	/r/MensRights	19/11/19 09:16 AM
1	Let women in the army lol I didn't make the joke bro. Didn't said you did? You are saying this though: But when people joke about male suicide and such, who cares if someone mocks a women's death? Which leads right to my previous point about how you're simply saying "well there are these other shitty people over there so we can be ambivalent to these shitty people over here. So why give a fuck about? Yet here we are discussing the very issue.	/r/MGTOW	28/04/19 10:46 PM
1	Let women in the army lol I fine. I'm not the one relying on people dying and/or being disrespectful about 911 to validate my behavior.	/r/MGTOW	28/04/19 09:36 PM
0	Let women in the army lol So other people laugh at 911 so now you can also a shitty person too? Okay	/r/MGTOW	28/04/19 03:45 PM
-5	Let women in the army lol I never get replies that say they don't care. Um okay then maybe not reply?	/r/MGTOW	28/04/19 11:28 AM