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| 6 | CMV: Men would have an easier time dating if they talked about sexuality without propositioning | CMV | pink-bubbly | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/23 03:32 PM |
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| 2 | Women of Reddit, does your potential man’s salary important? What is a reasonable $# you’d accept?He needs to be a productive member of the household and our arrangement needs to work for both of us. It might make me depressed for him to make $400,000/yr, but work 80 hours a week, constantly taking work calls in the middle of dates or vacations or dinner. It could make me depressed for him to lose his job while his ambition and drive dwindle while I feel and I'm the only one keeping the household above water. I can deal with a lot when someone is committed and accountable, but there are bad … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/23 01:23 AM |
| 1 | Honesty is the kryptonite of sexual success for menAgreed, but I still think being honest with yourself and others is the best way to find fulfilling long term pair bonds and not just sex. I can understand that lying to get sex once a year or something is "worth it" but I see a lot of men who can't tell themselves apart from who they truly are and who they project themselves to be and they're fighting demons because of it. There's a few factors at play, including our understanding of masculinity and what defines male worth, but it's a short term… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/23 02:47 PM |
| 2 | Honesty is the kryptonite of sexual success for menI would agree for the most part when it comes to short term relationships. You have to understand that this is not conducive to having children and raising them with someone mentally stable. Being lied to and manipulated over time makes you mentally unstable. You can use deceit to get sex, sure, but if and when you want children this approach will be a trainwreck waiting to happen. If that's not you, cool. I think most long term relationships/successful long term pair bonds happen when both peop… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/23 01:51 PM |
| 1 | Women don't receive a benefit in dating by 'waiting'I'm agreeing with you. Read it again lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/23 02:56 AM |
| 2 | Women don't receive a benefit in dating by 'waiting'Pretty much. If you are an attractive woman there is literally no reason not to be a serial monogamist. This is one of those situations where men give awful advice to women. Stop thinking about sex as a tool to win a relationship. Require every guy to get tested. Birth control, condom. It's that easy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/23 01:56 AM |
| – | “good girls” still slow me downI have experienced this too. Made me a fat pothead who never went out. He wanted to be over every night eating drive thru munchies watching a TV show. Now that I'm out of the relationship, I work out almost every day and cook for myself every meal. My solution? I avoid people who offer up "quality time" as their love language. Gym, reading, & cooking time is a non-negotiable for me. The oxytocin can wait. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/23 08:10 PM |
| 5 | CMV: a girl would hook up with you on a first date if she’s attracted to youNo. If I am attracted to you, I will really really really want to. And honestly, maybe "hook up" meaning make out and get a little handsy, but clothes will not come off and I won't have sex (including oral & digital). There's just no non-autistic way of making sure every risk box is ticked on the very first date and people who skip this step don't think far ahead enough to be around me anyway. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/23 01:14 PM |
| 1 | Yes, muscles will get you laid.Yes. Proving that you can invest in something that is a years long undertaking and delay gratification is impressive. Not to mention, they look nice. Absolutely hate people that look even a little bit roided, and definitely don't appreciate men who are eat with no variety and only like to do one form of exercise. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/23 10:11 PM |
| 1 | CMV : A lot of men feel like a date went really well when it didn’t. They made a friend.You wrote so many words without really saying anything. "He could be really attracted to you or not at all!" Yeah. I know. That's why I give them three. So they can do their own searching about deciding to express liking me or not liking me. What happened to all this "men know within minutes whether you're a whore or a wife"?! It doesn't seem like most men I've dated even bother to decide whether they like me or not, and honestly, that is more probable than either option you presented. I am not … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/09/23 09:09 PM |
| 3 | CMV : A lot of men feel like a date went really well when it didn’t. They made a friend.Tbh, I think we are? Unless they are fantastically nervous for the first 2-3 dates. I always give someone three dates. If I don't feel an immediate connection, the second and third will be free (walk, coffee & I pay for both, public whatever). Half of what attracts me to someone is their clear desire for me and I'm probably incorrectly assuming it's the same for men. Maybe some find me physically attractive and just want to stare at me and eat something with someone, but I am always the one to d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/09/23 01:41 PM |
| 3 | CMV : A lot of men feel like a date went really well when it didn’t. They made a friend.I have done this too but no longer will. It's not fair to me or him. At times I found myself wondering, "Do YOU even like me?!". Are men incapable of feeling a spark with someone they might not have found attractive in a photo? I feel like I find myself kinda swooning over guys I would've never have been attracted to because of the flirting/sexual tension. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/09/23 01:27 PM |
| 4 | is anyone else who is attending college afraid because of all the rape cases going on?…Get a load of this guy! Jesus Christ. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/09/23 03:15 AM |
| – | The average woman brings more to the relationship than the average manBoth OP and I said "with". Most people attribute that to a monogamous relationship. This is what a porn rotted brain looks like, everybody. Normal relationships aren't 3 dates then sex. They happen between two people who find each other attractive and start doing romantic things and start being "with" each other. I feel like I shouldn't be explaining this basic of a fucking concept. Are you stupid? Nobody said "more sex partners" we said with. And yeah, actually, it is a studied phenomenon. Let … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/09/23 03:09 AM |
| – | The average woman brings more to the relationship than the average manI read every word, and I'm sorry you went through that. I think a lot of women have similar experiences. I had a great mother and step-father who were really excited to teach me to live and flourish, not just keep me alive. Some people should not be allowed to have kids. For real. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/09/23 10:42 PM |
| – | The average woman brings more to the relationship than the average manNeither prehistoric, nor ancient, nor classical humans lived Wall-E style lives the way Americans do today. I'm not saying we need to go back to monkey. My point is that it's a fucking issue that there are humans aged 30+ fucking unable to make themselves a a week's worth of meals. You're looking at the trees and missing the forest. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/09/23 09:19 PM |
| – | The average woman brings more to the relationship than the average manA quick sweep of that article shows the study is based on one anthropologist's account of one group of people in what looks like a very fruitful region of the world. Not the case for most people before the agricultural revolution. Even so, that doesn't even pierce my argument. We know that sitting and laying most of our waking hours is really, really bad for us. Maybe they weren't hunting (which, we know they were in most other cases), they were gathering, cooking, socializing. NOT laying in bed… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/09/23 09:06 PM |
| 5 | The average woman brings more to the relationship than the average manI think we should stop viewing "domestic work" as gendered. It's not private, or downgraded or something. It's basic survival skills that, at some point, have to get done. It's not a gender thing. If your wife has a hysterectomy, you should be willing to do the dishes, handle the laundry, and soothe a crying child. If your husband hurts his ankle, you should be able to mow the lawn and change the oil in your car. These might be skilled, but you should do your best effort to at least learn these … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/09/23 07:56 PM |
| 16 | The average woman brings more to the relationship than the average manFor the first part, this is untrue. There are some men that believe every woman is a whore, but this a small minority. In most studies, being with someone else actually drives your values up. Somebody else picked you, you must have worth. Most people assume that if you are having sex with someone and making active steps towards a long term relationship, this is not ignorantly or willingly being "used", it is tactful. As for the second point, I would agree for the most part. I don't necessarily k… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/09/23 06:10 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Men would have an easier time dating if they talked about sexuality without propositioningMy post went over your head. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/23 06:37 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Men would have an easier time dating if they talked about sexuality without propositioningOkay, let me make this more clear. Flourishing (not passive) romantic relationships involve work from both parties in different ways. If you have decided to bow out because you think it's rigged and don't want to commit the labor, you will not receive the fruit. That is your decision. I am not Mother Nature. I didn't make an affirmative claim about how to fix dating, I implied that there are women who want to have good sex and gave advice on how to access consent for it, as well as improve their… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/23 05:59 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Men would have an easier time dating if they talked about sexuality without propositioningI think that's an unintelligent dating strategy for people like me. The women you're referring to are women who can't orgasm, don't see sex as important, or don't have a high sex drive. These women are common, just like it's common to meet men who do not reflect on their sexuality and have no interest in making sex seem like it would benefit you. I listened to the "three date rule" bullshit for so long and cut myself off from sex I really wanted to have in order to manipulate men into sticking a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/23 05:39 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Men would have an easier time dating if they talked about sexuality without propositioningBullseye. Some men have a hard time with it, though. That's what the question examples are for. There are literally thousands of men who don't know how to make women orgasm and the very simple answer is to ask. This is a more complex answer. If you are a person (the vast majority of normal people) who are unable to enjoy sex unless you can tell for a fact the other person is enjoying it too, it could help to start with a map. You will always have things to talk about and deepen understanding abo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/23 05:28 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Men would have an easier time dating if they talked about sexuality without propositioningMaybe so😂 I could just maybe be the bearer of good news, then. Yes, there are women that enjoy good, safe, skilled sex and are super interested in that, but I won't jump unless I know I will ALSO enjoy it. I know for a fact there are other women like me. I'm saying if you want a woman who is wants to have sex with you, do this. She won't be pushed away. If you are not interested in a woman that enjoys the conversation and endless nuances of human sexuality, move along! There are lots of women th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/23 05:14 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Men would have an easier time dating if they talked about sexuality without propositioningI hear you. This post wasn't directed at !ncels. It was for men who are able to get dates, but have a hard time showing sexual interest in women without pressuring them and deepening romantic (inherently sexual) connection. I cannot speak for all women but I have personally been to the 2-3 date mark multiple times with men that I don't want to see anymore because I don't feel sexually attracted to them. For me, it's not about appearance. It's about if I can tell they have the same curiosity and … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/23 05:13 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Men would have an easier time dating if they talked about sexuality without propositioningAgreed. Not "how about", but both. I was writing this thinking about men who have trouble making women orgasm, and women who have a very hard time correcting men who don't know how to make them orgasm. It makes me annoyed AF to live in a culture where sex is everywhere, advertising everything, and we are literally at a meeting basically to determine whether we want to hang out and have sex with each other for the foreseeable future, but nobody wants to talk about it. Men need to feel less shame … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/23 04:44 PM |
| 0 | CMV: Men would have an easier time dating if they talked about sexuality without propositioningAgreed. Like the other advice on this sub, it should be used with social intelligence and while reading the person. I like your advice to talk about yourself and see if they bite. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/23 04:35 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Men would have an easier time dating if they talked about sexuality without propositioningI wanted to include a variety of questions, but you are right about some being too soon. And there are some things you simply cannot find out about a person until you are in the act, so I agree with that too. The overarching message is that men should feel open to asking questions and inquiring about sexuality, but only if this is out of curiosity and not before propositioning that day. And that they should do more self-research about what they are looking for in terms of sexuality. "Hole" is no… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/23 04:33 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Men would have an easier time dating if they talked about sexuality without propositioningThis is in poor taste. Are we watching the same movie? Seeing the same post after post of men complaing about women "not telling them" what makes them orgasm? Or not taking initiative over their own pleasure? Having this conversation ensures that the person you're with doesn't write off sex as unimportant or not something worth thinking about and talking about. This post wasn't for women to use. Every woman is different. Men have reason to approach it clinically. I never said they have to ask th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/23 04:25 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Men would have an easier time dating if they talked about sexuality without propositioningWhy? If you are not dating romantically in order to eventually have good, safe, skilled sex, I have literally no idea why you are going on the dates. If you want only emotional intimacy with another person, focus on family and friends. You can and should develop emotional intimacy while determining sexual compatibility. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/23 04:06 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Men would have an easier time dating if they talked about sexuality without propositioningWould you rather someone be prepared to have sex with you or go in blind? Just so we're under the same definition, "grooming", when it involves two adults, is "the practice of preparing or training someone for a particular purpose or activity", which is very beneficial to me. I want my sexual partners to be prepared to have sex with me and vice versa. I want to see what your ideas are about sex and if it's even a possibility at any point in time and if it might be compatible based not on the rel… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/23 04:00 PM |
| 3 | CMV: Men would have an easier time dating if they talked about sexuality without propositioningGenuine question: why have sex with someone who is "giving it" to you at the expense of what they perceive is power? I think having these conversations diffuses the idea that sex is about power. Does is actually benefit you at all to have sex with women who wouldn't if you hadn't propositioned? I think introspecting about what makes good sex and what makes bad sex would make men better able to say no to sex that will basically be masturbation. Maybe I should've made it clear that this post is fo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/23 03:58 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Men would have an easier time dating if they talked about sexuality without propositioningWhy? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/23 03:52 PM |
| 1 | Nervousness or Fear Attracts Women the mostIf you are attracting women that push through a fear response to be around you, they have poor emotional intelligence. These women may realize they also pushed through a fear response to do something they didn't want to do, and realize they were coerced through intimidation later. It might be valuable to consider this. If you are using women for sex, you will have no issue with the fact that they are not making a rational decision to allow your penis inside them. For anybody with a brain, that i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/23 07:28 PM |
| 6 | CMV The biggest fear of a Women in Dating is getting Pump and dumped, the biggest fear off a Man is not beeing seen as sexually desirable by his Girl.op RAN lmfao. Easiest way to show you don't understand or listen to women is to pretend like violence comes from random strangers. Take a peek on r/whenwomenrefuse. Just scroll for five minutes and see how you feel. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/23 12:58 AM |
| 1 | CMV: successful men do care about womens’ careersWho gives a shit? You said so many words without saying anything at all. Nobody said that high earning women are all beautiful and have amazing personalities. Nobody said that in every situation that men and women go for people earning the same as them. We are saying that isogamy in salary is far more common than lower class men think and that it is probably conducive to a longer lasting healthy relationship. This discussion has nothing to do with generalizing men's wants. OP and I are saying th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/23 10:55 PM |
| 26 | Men should be able to get someone at or near their level of attractiveness, and being told “it’s not a points/bartering system,” “you are what you can get” or that “no one is obligated to date you” are simply deflections and gaslighting nonsense.This post is extremely rapey. OP I suggest you Google Search "aggrieved entitlement" and "mass shootings". Lots of convicted mass shooters use this rhetoric exactly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/23 01:37 PM |
| 1 | CMV: successful men do care about womens’ careersOP sort of set the scene that the man is making as much or more than the woman. She is saying that lower status/class men that vilify women for being ambitious career-wise are SOL when it comes to real life. Women in high paying careers meet men in high paying careers, they have a lot in common and money is not an issue like it would be with a man in a super high paying career who picked a lower class woman who wants him so she can spend his money. It honestly makes way more sense for both of th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/23 12:20 AM |
| 2 | CMV: successful men do care about womens’ careersI don't exclusively date up when it comes to money. I think the biggest area women no longer compromise on is sexual enthusiasm and dexterity. If you have no idea how, no intention of learning, and no enthusiasm to help me enjoy sex to the maximum. I'm not sure about other women, but I definitely do that for rhe men around me. They are not all jack off and PIV. Lots of them love massages and variety and shit like that. If the sex is lackluster and I make more money in the face of any conflict, y… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/23 12:23 PM |
| 21 | CMV: successful men do care about womens’ careersSame. In finance as well and totally agree. Money, especially in this economy, greases the emotional wheels for a healthy relationship. Also, there are lots of beautiful women in high paying careers. I don't know what this section is on about pretending that beauty and a good salary are mutually exclusive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/23 07:36 PM |
| 12 | Most men simply want women at or even slightly below their level of attractiveness, or just one who isn’t overweight. Most women feel entitled to men way more attractive than them and meet a whole laundry list of criteria. The whole “neckbeard wants supermodel” narrative is fictional projection.LOLLLLLL FOR REAL | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/23 06:47 PM |
| 1 | Women are more emotional than men - this shouldn’t have a negative connotation to it.The word you're looking for here is "neurotic". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/23 08:58 PM |
| 1 | How much would you rate yourself out of 10, and why?7! 20F, symmetrical face, 6'1, $55k/yr. 36DD & athletic body type (with a great ass, might I add). Heteroflexible. Bachelor's degree in Gender & Sexuality Studies! Most people think being so tall makes me unapproachable, but I think it has the opposite effect. Studies show that being a 7 where there are a good amount of people rating you as 10s and a good amount of 3s are much more likely to get people to jump (7 as a mean, but not median), rather than 90% of people rating you as a 6, for exampl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/23 04:36 AM |
| -2 | 'Getting women' by lying and manipulating them isn't reflective of skill, it's just coerciveMen are dishonest about how long they intend to commit to exclusivity in order to ensure consistent sex. The woman who is under the impression that he wants what she wants has no reason to part ways! He is not giving her all the information to make an intelligent decision about whether they are compatible or not. You assume that everyone involved has all of the information. Sometimes, he doesn't even have the information himself. Men will willy-nilly have casual sex to find a woman who will put … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/09/23 01:34 AM |
| 2 | Men will lie and say they won’t wife up a promiscuous girl or a girl with a past the same way women lie about their pastThe discussion is about shame and promiscuity. Sort of...begs that there's a moral implication about virginity. I don't think the word you're looking for here is "double standards", I think it's probably "nuanced". Men don't just go monkey and make the same decisions they would've made as a prehistoric hunter gatherer. We have sat on our asses and thought ourselves into ascribing moral values to promiscuity. It has resulted in cognitive dissonance, where men marry a virgin, who, in our society (… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/09/23 01:06 AM |
| 2 | Men will lie and say they won’t wife up a promiscuous girl or a girl with a past the same way women lie about their pastYes. Assigning a moral value to that something and holding others to that standard without holding yourself to that standard is hypocrisy. If you are also a virgin, it is not hypocrisy. It is something different, and more sinister. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/09/23 12:57 AM |
| 1 | 'Getting women' by lying and manipulating them isn't reflective of skill, it's just coerciveFirst sign of actions not matching words, I'm out. These men have no sense of integrity. This type of behavior spilleth over. To drugs, alcohol, work, school, and cheating. They are constantly dealing with the cognitive dissonance of seeing themselves as a decent and honest person to stay mentally healthy and actively manipulating women who want to be in a relationship that requires authenticity and trust. Why is it that only when you are trying to bang that the rules about lying and misrepresen… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/09/23 12:51 AM |
| 1 | Women shouldn’t be shamed for wanting to have sex when you consider the orgasm gap.Untrue. Women orgasm at a far higher rate when masturbating than having sex with men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/09/23 07:29 PM |
| 5 | Q4Men: To what extent does a woman’s presentation (hair, style, mannerisms) factor into your attraction?"Petite" is not a mannerism. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/23 02:06 AM |
| 0 | Do women often assume if a guy isn’t salivating over them that he must not be very interested?I think what's missing from this conversation is that women want to have sex and want to look and feel desired sexually, but not pressured to have sex at that moment. It's kinda like leaving the light on or the door open. Make suggestive comments, flirty looks, etc. all things people on this thread have been mentioning, but do not make me feel like I need to have sex with you TODAY. In my opinion, that's the difference between being creepy and showing interest. I really appreciate an "exit strat… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/23 09:28 PM |
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