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Considering we're sitting on a planet with 8 billion other people, it seems like plenty of women are performing their "needed and by nature assigned task."
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 07:18 PM
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womens achievements are worthless to men, because women are not made for that. women are made to be mothers and look good and bond communities society, not do that mans work. Terrifying to live on planet earth with people that think like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 06:40 PM
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Do men even want to be proposed to? Honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 01:45 AM
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Hmm, I guess I have different levels of attraction then. Women are undoubtedly more pleasing to the eye. I swipe right on probably 50% of women I see on dating apps. Men don't seem as nearly as attractive, it takes so long to find someone. What I do find attractive - clean shaven guys, guys with long hair, fuller lips, slim/fit but not muscular, the only trait that's less feminine that I look for is taller guys because I, myself, am very tall for a girl. Beards are an extreme turnoff, muscular m…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 06:56 PM
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I am a woman and I find other women way more attractive than men, even though I'm mostly sexually interested in men. It's disappointing, I wish men were prettier!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 11:29 AM
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A loser in a Ferrari does nothing for me, still.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 01:02 AM
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When we reconnected she would always mock how soft and nerdy i was. She would frequently make me feel…bad about the fact I’d never gotten in a fight. It was almost as if she was judging my manhood and sense of masculinity. The type of men she’s into are the typical street guys who are hyper masculine and strong willed. She is attracted to "typical street guys" and isn't impressed with the fact that you haven't gotten into a violent physical altercation with someone. It sounds like she's unintell…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 01:37 AM
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not to mention the risk of exploitation is sooooo fucking high it's unbelievable. Something tells me you dont have the resources to be exploited.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 12:38 AM
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You don't have to come from a place of privilege to make these observations, but I understand what you mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 12:50 AM
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Why do you think that makes you sound like an asshole? I also work within that world which is why it's so laughable that people on PPD think wealthy, high earning successful men want to marry 18 year old virgins.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 09:06 PM
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People really think like that here 😭
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 11:32 AM
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Imagine being a grown ass man, working at a successful company, bringing your child bride to an event. I'm sure plenty of well-adjusted, well off adults envision that life for themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 11:31 AM
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Grown ass men with lives and friends don't want to marry 18 year old virgins.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 03:35 AM
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Considering women bear children and do majority of the rearing, it makes complete sense to find a mate with adequate resources. Can't argue with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 12:09 AM
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Are you saying the wife doesn't have her own job? Because in most modern families, the wife works
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 03:31 PM
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So, I wonder what it is about moving in with a man that makes women stop wanting to be intimate after a year? Surely, it's not the man, or is it??
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 03:28 PM
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If you look around outside in the real world, it seems like most couples are pretty aged matched
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 03:20 PM
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Theoretically, you could have also met a man you loved who had decent income, but it's not something you prioritize which is okay. But for most people, it's not an either or.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 07:48 PM
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Exactly, just give it a go and see how it works out.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 05:10 PM
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or the gas station 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 03:01 PM
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Why don't you just focus on using okcupid then? I met my fiancé there after searching for a while
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 03:01 PM
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I don’t want some 6-ft investment banker with psychopathic traits and is going to cheat; am looking for a normal dude who goes to church and cares about family. *Tinder keeps showing the former. * But there's more average men than ultra attractive narcissist 6 foot investment bankers, are you sure?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 03:00 PM
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But many women are into being pump & dumped by weirdos. It's time for men to come to terms with that women don't want 99% of men. How are these compatible?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 02:56 PM
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Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 10:50 PM
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It's not a separate issue, it is a precipitating factor.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 09:50 PM
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But I think what most guys are really concerned about is putting in more effort to get a woman than someone else in the past has had to. You will legitimately never know so it's almost like you're making stuff up in your head to hurt your own feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 09:24 PM
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Are you saying you take inventory of your partners sexual past? Or are you just speculating/making stuff up to hurt your own feelings?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 09:22 PM
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The authors suggest that women’s sexual desire may function not only to facilitate reproduction, but also to enable pair bonding. They speculate that once couples marry, women may not feel as strong a need for sex to secure their bond with their husbands. Food for thought is right, because I think all of these studies miss the mark. Sexual desire decreases for women after marriage when women move in with their partners and then have to clean after them, make their doctors appointments, manage ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 09:19 PM
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women hold 80% of debt AND spending 80 cents for every dollar. Women are poored via cashflow, spending decisions, and debt they carry. And they would still rather be alone, you love to see it The fact you thing the average woman makes enough money to be "ight" shows me how little you know about finances 🤣 Everyone I know is college educated with careers and doing well for themselves, whether they have husbands or they're single. So, yes... we will DEFINITELY be okay
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 06:06 PM
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Women want to marry, but marriage worthy men are in short supply. Men may make more money, but women make enough these days not to have to rely on marriage. We be iight
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 03:45 PM
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Why risk your money, assets, and way of living? There's virtually zero benefit. Most men don't have anything to lose in the first place. Plus, women make their own money and are deciding against being domestic slaves to husbands
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 03:33 PM
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Why do you care about a woman's standards?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 02:48 AM
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Exactly, y'all don't care that most women don't want to be bothered. The only thing that matters is you "shooting your shot" after you've appraised a complete stranger as sexually attractive to you. We are tired of it. It feels like harassment to most of us, and I'm glad it's becoming more and more socially unacceptable.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 11:43 PM
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I think the real issue is most people don't use discernment. Is a girl clearly interested in you? Has she acknowledged and smiled at you? Wow! Maybe go approach her. Is a woman avoiding your eye contact and grimacing in discomfort about your presence? Wow, maybe leave her tf alone. Most women have been woman #2 a hundred times or more.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 08:02 PM
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What advice would you give to a woman who was similarly accomplished and dating in hopes of starting a family? Would you suggest she date a barista/waitress? Should she risk poverty during pregnancy and child rearing just to make dating seem equitable to random strangers on the internet
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 10:15 PM
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Huh? Preferences can be either disqualifiers or not, but they're still preferences regardless.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 09:09 PM
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there's not such a thing as "equality" in sex attention or dating chances Why do you think there needs to be equality in dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 05:28 PM
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height - men definitely have height preferences income - men don't want broke chicks for relationships social status - college educated men seek women with some kind of status educated - most educated men are looking for similarly educated women
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 05:27 PM
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That's totally false. The hot guys that I went to HS with have all settled, I mean all of them. They don't look so hot either, but their wives are not the 10/10 beauties they dated when they were young.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 05:24 PM
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He hasn't existed for like 30 years 😭
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 05:29 AM
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Tori Spelling is very unfortunate looking
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 03:52 AM
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She looks like a elementary school kid
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 03:51 AM
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I agree with you about Jason Momoa. He's like almost attractive but there's something about him - he looks homeless and dirty and not in a cool way
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 03:49 AM
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And I’d say Danzig is a good example of a 2/10. Young Danzig though, absolute 10/10 for me personally
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 03:47 AM
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The funny thing is he's completely incapable of knowing, so he'll just always assume he's missing out and die mad
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 04:09 AM
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Please break up and move on. Yes, I would leave him. Next question
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 05:00 AM
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I'm even into heroin chic sometimes but Pete Davidson is just straight oogly. Those teeth 😭
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 04:54 AM
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Men literally kill other men just for being gay, so they keep the award for most homophobic
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 11:38 PM
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No one is disputing the fact that women can be murderers. The simple fact is that women commit far less violent crimes than men. I'm sorry if you can't accept that, but that's your reality. You are disturbed.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 06:35 PM
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This is some next level reality bending insanity. Please seek help.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 06:31 PM
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You hate when women bring up domestic abuse numbers because men literally kill women and you have cognitive dissonance about that
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 06:29 PM
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Almost, actually. Suffered a brain hemorrhage after being assaulted on the street by a rejected man
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 05:43 PM
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mmmhmmm
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 04:43 PM
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most guys: do absolutely nothing and still complain
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 04:07 PM
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And men just happen to be telling the truth?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 04:06 PM
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Is this coming from the sex that literally kills people over rejection
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 04:04 PM
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I'm pretty sure her husband is the Chad
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 07:24 PM
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Manic pixie dream chad Lmao, this ones great
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 07:24 PM
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This guy is really trying to pretend like calling black women disgusting isn't racial and hateful, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 06:06 AM
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but vetting against shitty guys is literally violence against men
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 05:30 AM
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Beauty ❤️
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 12:44 AM
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It's so refreshing when men admit they also have height preferences. We already knew, but it's good to talk about.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 12:37 AM
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No, I was mocking the commenter above you. I agree with you
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 03:07 PM
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no, no, no, it's because they're biologically more attracted to women in their twenties because they're more fertile! It has nothing to do with anything else, like lower expectations
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 10:27 AM
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I would have punched this man in the throat
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 10:22 AM
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What is stopping them from trying to make themselves more attractive like women do every single day?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 10:02 AM
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I love that you require the pageantry of paying for a date. You fully intend to, but you require your date to pretend to want to as well. If they don't offer to pay (which you will reject anyway, according to script), no thanks. This is pretty funny
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 04:38 PM
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Why did you pick this particular girl as a partner when you can do so much better?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 03:22 AM
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What about the men who are legitimately into simping and just trying to do what gives them pleasure in life?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 05:13 PM
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It goes both ways then?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 05:11 PM
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This sounds like a fetish. Are you kinkshaming?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 05:10 PM
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The man that took me on high effort dates immediately is the man that I ended up with. He was worlds different from every other "let's meet for drinks or in a park" guy and it showed on every single level. Just wowza.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 02:13 AM
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People want what they want. If coffee dates work for you, do them. If dinner dates work for you, do them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 02:08 AM
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People who think like that have rejection as their only experience. It is easier to say, "it's because I'm not Jason Mamoa!" than to acknowledge the complexities of attracting the opposite sex. They think sex and dating is a numbers game where only players who are 6'2" with 6 figure jobs win, despite real life evidence of the contrary literally all around them. It's delusional and terrifying, honestly
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 12:46 AM
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Imma need men to start valuing things other than pure unadulterated lust
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 12:41 AM
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I don't care how much your sunglasses cost, but that BMW better be a 7 series
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 12:40 AM
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but you're simply restraining from sex because you want it to be a meaningful and serious relationship in the future This makes it seem more calculated than it is. Some women genuinely need to get to know their partners before feeling comfortable with sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 09:46 PM
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Try to remind yourself that you know absolutely nothing about the strangers you're engaging with online. Your assumptions are so wrong I'm a little embarrassed for you. Take care, kid
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 05:01 AM
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Who cares what my particular standards are? Why are you so deeply bothered?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 04:57 AM
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You simply don't know what you're talking about, there's tons of posts about leveling up and I don't even visit FDS that much. You're projecting your own insecurities onto me. I don't make 6 figures but I'm pretty close. The contempt you have towards this idea shows you feel particularly threatened by it. It's probably because it's something you don't measure up to. But sure, tell me more about my finances, sir
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 04:54 AM
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No one is talking about gold diggers, lol We've talked about this - the only men who care about gold diggers are men who don't have any gold
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 04:46 AM
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You've made the mistake of thinking it's about money. It's actually about weeding out people who aren't compatible. You don't have to agree or like it, but it works. Femcels? Nah, it is a dating strategy. You're in a better position to date and find a partner when you've got your life together.. so financial independence is key
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 04:41 AM
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Yeah, because being financially secure is clearly some terrible and shallow thing to aspire to
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 04:36 AM
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You wouldn't want to have sex with the women they're having sex with
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 05:04 AM
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Women would rather date someone they really like or be alone, I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 08:09 PM
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If looks are all that matter, and you don't have them, how are you sleeping with anyone?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 12:43 PM
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The idea that personality has zero effect on sexual attraction just tells me you don't date or interact with the opposite sex much at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 11:32 AM
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I'm sure there's an operational definition for personality somewhere. My fiancé is an introvert and I find both him and his personality very attractive. You attract a partner by figuring out how to like and be your authentic self. No one wants to date someone who hates themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 05:29 AM
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I know this is a foreign concept, but not everything needs a mathematically clear basis. Personalities are subjective qualities. One person can view an introverted person with x, y, and z hobbies/interest as unattractive, while the next person can view them as super attractive. Everybody should stop trying to be everything to everyone. It's ineffective and exhausting
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 05:10 AM
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Looks and personality matter to people, how awful!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 05:03 AM
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Who honestly says looks don't matter though??? Like where did y'all get this from
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 04:41 AM
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Who says looks don't matter? I don't get why people keep saying this. People talk about personality a lot, but that doesn't automatically mean "personality is all that matters" - being an attractive human being is clearly important? Like I really don't get this
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 04:41 AM
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Women either objectify men or can't sustain sexual interest?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 11:10 PM
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Has that been your experience? Women just using you as a human dildo?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 10:16 PM
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Hmm, I actually don't think that's how most women view sex. Saying pleasure is important does not imply it's the only important thing. I'd wager most people have sex for a combination of pleasure, sensuality, love, connection, intimacy. But you're just angry that women have any expectations of their partners at all, and I can't help ya there
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 07:39 PM
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Your comment is unclear. Looking for a whore?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 07:15 PM
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The tone of abuse, gotcha. 🤨
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 04:07 PM
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The clearly observable Reddit culture of women who swarm in to coddle male egos the second anyone mentions big dicks would disagree It's never "personally, I prefer smaller" but "don't worry OP, most women don't like big dicks!" x1000
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 03:56 PM
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When did I say anything about abuse?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 03:54 PM
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They have a podcast about penis size that I actually listened to because I was very curious about what they had to say. I think a lot of comments here are missing their point, which is women should be allowed to have preferences in general. Maybe she likes a slight curve, maybe she's a size queen, maybe smaller is better, whatever works for her vagina is what she should seek. FDS says we've been so busy reaffirming male egos with "it's not the size of the boat but the motion of the ocean!" that …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 02:39 PM
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The only people dating on planet earth are rich men and men who are models, you got that!?!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 04:50 AM
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Maybe it takes 2 dates Honestly could not imagine sleeping with a stranger after two dates
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 07:32 PM
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You'll never catch me saying that
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 11:06 PM
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There are women designed sex toys, for one! They are less phallus centric
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 09:45 PM
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Are you hot enough?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 02:39 PM
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You made the right decision. Whatever made you pull back was trying to protect you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 02:38 PM
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The only thing you should ever listen to is your own gut instinct. Sometimes, someone feels safe and comfortable. Sometimes, you really don't know if you know them well enough. Both times it's 100% okay to do what you feel is right, so as long as you are always paying attention to your instincts. Don't listen to the men on here who say "if you like me you'll sleep with me right away." If there is an inkling of distrust and they expect you to sleep with them regardless, that's your cue to leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 02:35 PM
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what happens when you get cheated on by someone with an n count of 4
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/21 10:37 PM
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This is fascinating because it assumes we haven't all experienced this. I felt overwhelmed with sadness and quickly hugged and comforted my fiancé when he was crying, because he's a human being.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 01:37 PM
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Insightful take, I've never thought of it that way but that makes so much sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 09:45 AM
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I LOVE your reasoning Thank you ☺️
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 11:52 PM
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The only men concerned about being treated like "wallets" are men who don't have any money, and I don't date y'all. I don't know what to tell you. Broke men are spiteful and contemptuous about dating, and I don't have the time ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 11:45 PM
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It's quite deliberately an exaggeration
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 11:36 PM
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Well, I do peg you as the type to not enjoy paying for dates all the time. You seem like a once or twice until the resentment kicks in type. Am I wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 10:26 PM
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Only going by the types of posts and replies I get on here, but you're right! I acknowledge I don't know absolutely everything ever
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 10:20 PM
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It's almost irrelevant because I don't date or even know people like the men who post on here
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 10:18 PM
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Well, I'm not sleeping with you after a date so I'm still not a prostitute, despite you wanting so desperately for me to think of myself in that way
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 06:19 PM
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I'm more interested in weeding out men who feel contemptuous about paying for a date because it is indicative of many other things in my experience, so I'll continue to do what I'm doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 06:08 PM
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If you think going on a date is solely and explicitly about nothing more than getting sex from someone, why even date? Just go to a prostitute. Women don't exist to immediately provide sex to you because other women have had one night stands. If you want immediate sex just say so - and let women who want more than that date other people instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 05:59 PM
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Dating is not prostitution. I bet if you told a woman, "I'm buying you this dinner explicitly for sex" they wouldn't date you because they aren't prostitutes. Go on, give it a try.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 05:44 PM
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Almost every man on PPD thinks you should be ready and willing to sleep with them after 20 minutes of chat and an Applebee's 2 for $22
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 02:07 PM
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high heels Are you short?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 03:28 PM
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Tell that to every insta celeb
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 03:22 PM
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Beards. They may be manly and masculine but they are an extreme turn off for me, even well manicured and taken care of ones. I will not date a guy with a beard ever. Guh
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 03:22 PM
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If you care about chastity, find the women who meet your standards. Move to Utah and join a Mormon church or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 03:49 PM
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Hmm, no I'm not. You must be conflating posters because I don't care about people's preferences. In fact, I think both men & women should be ruthlessly discerning with who they have sex with and date.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 03:46 PM
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You're trying to apply logic to a domain heavily ran by emotion and illogical tendencies. You can be "right" from a philosophical standpoint, but that doesn't translate into the real world and doesn't mean anyone will date you. This isn't Practical Argument 101, it's dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 03:19 PM
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These aren't the insightful questions you think they are. Are age x income related? 20 year olds in college probably aren't getting married. 30 year olds with established careers (who then make more money) probably are. Being tall is like a woman having big boobs. There are some blatant societal preferences but short people and people with small boobs are still very much dating, marrying, having sex, and procreating
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 02:55 PM
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Do men and women not settle down for marriage at the same time? Why is the behavior looked down upon in women? Men are hooking up and casually dating into their 30s until they decide they want just one person too.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 02:20 PM
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So women should only date chads because they'll never love anyone else?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 02:17 PM
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Not wanting to sleep with an absolute stranger is a sexual hangup? Fascinating
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 05:35 PM
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I have never in my life slept with someone on the first date, not even my fiancé who I knew right away that I wanted to be with forever. If he felt entitled to sleep with me before I felt 100% comfortable I would have ghosted him first. So, you continue to do what works for you and I'll continue to do what works for me. Cheers!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 02:52 PM
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Easiest way to weed out people that don't want a relationship is to not sleep with them right away and actually go on a first date to begin with. You're getting intimate too easily with people who don't want the same things you do. Find someone you actually like and get to know them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 02:55 AM
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He's definitely not, not at all
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/21 03:46 PM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 09:34 PM
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Women are more poor than men, from the numbers: https://247wallst.com/special-report/2019/11/04/here-is-the-poverty-rate-for-every-quantifiable-group-in-the-united-states/
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 01:15 AM
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I prefer the men I date to be taller than me. If we're the same height barefoot, that means I'll be taller than them with a pair of boots, heels, hell... vans loafers. So, same height is a no. I've dated men my same height or shorter than me. They had a problem with it, they made me feel like something was wrong with me, and I simply told myself I was never doing that shit ever again. 🙂 Guy who was my same height - I went over to his house one day and he answered the door barefoot, I obviously h…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 01:11 AM
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There's got to be something between do nothing and gain wealth. Getting a college degree, a better job, moving to a different city? I did that all on my own and I'm much better off.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 02:15 PM
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Whereas it seems men who aren’t in relationships don’t have any outlet for emotional support. Do you have any grand ideas on how to rectify this
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 02:05 PM
0

Why don't men improve their own social standing?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 02:01 PM
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There are so many support groups and resources dedicated solely for women of all ages, while men barely have anything. We live in a patriarchal society. There is a man in almost every single powerful position in this country, save a few women. Check out the leadership of the company you work for and tell me what you see. Women are not responsible for saving men. There's so much support for women because THEY advocated for it. If men want support, what is stopping them from starting groups and su…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 01:51 PM
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Everyone I don't know is essentially some random person. I don't like being propositioned on sites that aren't for dating. I like people who know boundaries. Sorry if that means I'm entitled because I don't want to be harassed by effing strange men desperate for attention and sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 01:42 PM
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You have options falling into your lap on a regular basis and you're actually complaining. Low value options? I'd literally rather be alone. A family? You think I'm starting a family with some random dude that slides in my DMs? Lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 05:06 AM
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Why is it a bad thing? Imagine if you're a woman and every social media platform you use has random friend requests, messages, from at least 2-5 men pretending to be nice but really just looking for sex. It is annoying and exhausting.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 03:16 AM
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I just said stranger. And don't pretend like sex isn't the goal.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 02:56 AM
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while random dudes blow up her inboxes across social media and dating apps Yeah, she wants to meet a good guy, not some stranger who is using social media to message people they don't know in hopes of getting sex
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 02:32 AM
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The first step is a mental shift, which is simultaneously the easiest, hardest, and most important one. Most people here absolutely refuse to believe they have any control over their circumstances. Changing the belief system is the key, but saying that is like talking to a brick wall.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 10:38 PM
2

How about... therapy or journaling, exercise, eating healthy, joining local communities (book clubs, sporting groups, etc), connecting with family, making a conscious effort to make friends, taking a class at the community college, hiking, exploring nature, meditating, reading self-help. There's so many things people can do to improve their existence, but the first step is believing they have power over their lives. That's where a short dose of antidepressants can come in, and you don't need a p…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 03:03 PM
0

Why don't you guys join a church or something
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 02:52 PM
0

Romantic relationships aren't the only way to get approval from others. In fact, it's probably the worst, most unhealthy way... and seems to be the one thing most lonely men fixate on
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 02:51 PM
2

Bald, murderer, bad teeth, ugly facial hair = conventionally attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 09:46 PM
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That guy is conventionally good looking Lmaooo, noooo the eff he wasn't. He was absolutely unattractive by almost every measure.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 09:43 PM
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there's a steady demand for thugs. From who though? What social class?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 09:38 PM
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the fact that most women would rather have an abuser that a passive doormat. This is not a fact, actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 09:35 PM
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Men are "expected" to have certain features, the overwhelming majority of men don't have them, and somehow we're sitting on a planet with 8 billion people. Someone's fuckin'
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 06:54 PM
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Women don’t have to do shit Um, women definitely put a lot of time and energy into their appearance, unlike most average men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 04:55 PM
5

hot homely Pick one, hoss
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 04:51 PM
2

You do realize that attractive people often suck in bed, at least attractive men do, and from what my male friends tell me attractive women can also be dead fish, so I think you are missing that point entirely. Exactly. Has anyone on PPD ever had sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 02:49 PM
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Because they don't care about a woman's sexual pleasure, only their egos. I can't believe they admitted they'd rather hurt someone with their penis than be a size that's more practical for pleasure.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 02:48 PM
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Does sleeping with someone really attractive for a period in your life ruin sex with other more average people? Attractive does not mean good sex, at all. Please stop conflating the two
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 11:48 AM
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Romantic partners aren't the only people that should pay attention to you and compliment you. Please, foster relationships outside of pining after sex for your own sanity. I have gone long stretches without compliments from random people and it hasn't affected me at all. I have friends and family that treat me like a valuable member of society and that matters most of all.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 04:57 PM
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it's just a vain Neverending search for some elusive megachad Do you know any women in real life, or?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 08:05 PM
2

Is he taking you to brothers and picking out dudes for you to have sex with?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 02:23 PM
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who actually genuinely likes you for you Y'all don't even like you for you and it's not a woman's job to come into your life and make you feel better about yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 02:14 PM
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To appease women’s entitlement. Entitlement = having a socially and emotionally competent partner that grooms and takes care of himself
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 02:09 PM
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if you see your partner as a sexual resource to be mined and exploited to the fullest extent This is all they value
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 04:12 AM
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It means you're not her type which usually means she only lusts after your wallet Off topic - but most men, and I cannot stress this enough, do not have enough money or resources for anyone to lust after to begin with. Please keep that in mind
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 08:30 PM
1

So historical data is irrelevant and women are still the bad guys somehow?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 01:37 PM
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It's not the precipitating factor that leads to divorce, relationship problems exist well before people cheat... but most people aren't cheating. And statistics show that men are more likely to cheat than women anyway https://ifstudies.org/blog/number-1-in-2018-who-cheats-more-the-demographics-of-infidelity-in-america
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 12:34 PM
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a good wife that keeps his stomach full and balls empty. 🤢🤢
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 01:05 AM
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This is not even a thing the average person has to worry about, now y'all are just making up stuff to be concerned with
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 12:59 AM
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Now it's a million, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 05:44 PM
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No, I wouldn't. I don't have time to argue with someone about fundamental and core beliefs. My partner and I agree politically on 90% of things and are able to have healthy, constructive, and even persuasive debates on different issues because we at least have similar core beliefs. It's a dynamic that I prefer. In my early 20s, I dated this ultra wealthy guy in my friend group who was fun & liked to drink and go out, but was super Republican and conservative. He had absolutely no respect for my …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 04:19 PM
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There's nothing wrong with learning and growing. But it doesn't take 20 dicks to learn you don't like hooking up. People learn and grow at different rates. I have no idea how long it takes the average woman to figure out what works for her sexually. I find it fascinating that you probably don't have a vagina nor have sex with men yet you are confident you know more about the experience than women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 04:14 PM
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And you're operating on the premise that every woman you encounter has given something to a Chad but not you, it's disturbing as fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 02:59 PM
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Did I? If anything, I was pretty confident there was no problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 02:56 PM
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This is fucking unhinged. Number one, I have never slept with a person I knew for only a couple hours... literally never in my life. Number two, I have never slept with a "Chad" in my life. Go see a therapist, seriously, because you are living in a fantasy world with people and situations that don't even exist for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 02:54 PM
2

Sony Ericsson in like 1999
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 01:02 PM
0

Go to bars, download tinder?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 01:00 PM
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This guy is pretending he doesn't know the explicit meaning of pump and dump
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 12:51 PM
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Let men do what they want if it makes them happy and harms absolutely no one
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 12:50 PM
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My close friend who is late 30s, a lawyer, and in a longterm relationship purchases onlyfans subscriptions of egirls he likes. He seems very normal and not mentally ill.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 12:45 PM
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Why does someone need to be blamed? Everyone is doing what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 12:42 PM
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You don't want us to be one-try-and-done bitches, because only 20% (probably even less) of women would choose to keep having sex. Exactly this, 100%. But this is the world OP wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 11:48 AM
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You said it better than I could, thank you!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 11:44 AM
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Sex shaming aside, why would a normal person risk pregnancy, and STD dozens of times for self-admitted low quality sex? What good reason do women have for it? I'll answer this question you think everyone is avoiding - I've experienced self-admitted low quality sex (not so much casual sex but in dating and FWB dynamics) because I literally did not know any better. Sex felt like the intimacy I thought I wanted even though it wasn't that fulfilling. I didn't wake up from the illusion until I dated …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 03:42 AM
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Women have complete sexual freedom in the West, so the fact that we have moved towards a hookup culture shows that this is what women collectively wanted. I don't believe this is true. Women collectively want hookup culture insofar as we're being told, repeatedly, that casual sex and hooking up with strangers is somehow liberating and fulfilling. Women believe this despite lived experiences, and the second they decide they deserve better, men get mad at them. Apparently, women are supposed to be…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 01:02 AM
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I've seen this on a lot of guys profiles too? It's something dumb and cringe that people say
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 11:46 AM
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It's very easy to make pornography seem neutral when you ignore the broader societal implications and everything else about it. There is nothing inherently wrong with consensual sexual imagery, that's true, but pornography has become intertwined with abuse, coercion, and degradation, which means you cannot reference one without the other. This is like talking about communism and demanding that crime be held responsible for the murders of millions, not communism itself. Sure, but the conversation…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 12:46 AM
2

You're correct, I personally do not find him attractive but I can acknowledge that he's fine/normal looking. Just not for me 😀
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 09:30 PM
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You seem to think that if a girl goes through the casting couch and doesn't get the part then she's been exploited When the hell did I say I thought that?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 04:53 PM
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I'm 5'8" so taller than me is preferable 😁
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 04:52 PM
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So, the exploitative nature of porn comes from acts of coercion, abuse, degradation, and manipulation that certain performers face. From an ethics point of view, consenting couples creating videos together doesn't meet that criteria, unless one is coercing and abusing the other for the sake of porn?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 04:50 PM
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And there's is something especially heinous about sexual exploitation that makes me simply not want to watch it. That doesn't mean I don't care about any other exploitation on earth, because I do. Things are fucked, and not watching porn is literally one consumer habit I have out of many that are guided by my own personal beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 04:48 PM
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It's actually just one person and they're killin' it
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 02:58 PM
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Hillary looks like she hasnt had sex in 25 years
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 02:53 PM
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Can you elaborate on what you find arousing about pale, white skin
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 02:48 PM
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I would legit say no thanks and Jason Momoa is an 11/10
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 02:38 PM
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It seems to be female nature to manipulate and gaslight and you're just a victim 😢
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 02:36 PM
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tall and skinny, thx!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 02:32 PM
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I dislike porn because it's exploitative and for every popular, successful, rich porn star there's 1000 girls who are abused and coerced into performing. It's a terrible industry and wholly irrelevant to my sexuality. You don't have to agree or care, just stop pretending that it's good and harmless, it's not.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 02:19 PM
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I'm sure you have oppressed and/or influenced the trajectory of effectively zero women, so you don't have to worry
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 02:14 PM
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Exactly, those dudes look gross
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 02:11 PM
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Nursing homes are filled with people who have children that never visit them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 06:24 AM
1

Stop stalking me! High school felt like 4 years of small dick jokes tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 02:29 AM
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Talking to women here almost made me actually hate women Troubling
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 10:25 PM
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Men make fun of other guy's dicks about 100x more than women do, honestly
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 10:04 PM
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relationships that go long enough You mean a committed, longterm relationship? There is nothing unusual about partners of either sex sharing a car or credit cards after a certain point.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 09:54 PM
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Didn't realize making jokes made you vulnerable and exposed
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 09:26 PM
2

I can see moving in with a partner... but are men are really out here giving their cars to women and giving them credit cards?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 09:25 PM
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I just looked at their most recent posts... I don't think FDS wants one sided relationships, they just want to date men that actually like and respect them. It's a woman's sub so of course the advice will be specifically for women, it's not their responsibility to fix the dating woes of men. People talk critically on the internet, it's true. They're allowed to dislike men with bad taste in clothes, poor hygiene, who are broke, etc. Ask yourself why you think they have a moral imperative to be ki…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 03:34 PM
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I've seen tons of their posts but haven't seen anything even close to manipulation.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 03:09 PM
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Theyre misandrists who manipulate men. How is it manipulation to avoid men who are abusive, addicted to porn, mean, etc?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 03:02 PM
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but they use the term sctotes which means they're literal terrorists /s
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 03:01 PM
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Maybe she's 5'8"
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 02:55 PM
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Y'all care too much about FDS
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 02:51 PM
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Fuck no. She can help him find his own place, save for a car, and repair his credit without providing for him like a child. Who wants to be treated like a toddler incapable of adulting?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 02:44 PM
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calls up the nearest Planned Parenthood
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 02:39 PM
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Women have more options than men!!!!!! The options:
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 02:38 PM
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90% of Reddit at any given moment is men crying about women's preferences, not the inverse
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 12:52 AM
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Show me women giving a shit about guys not liking fat girls, because I can't seem to find it anywhere
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 07:58 PM
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Actually - yes. Women shouldn't work out to improve herself for a guy, she should do it to improve herself for herself. And men should hit the gym to improve their self-esteem and confidence as well. There's a small fraction of women who think being fat is a good/healthy thing, and most people disagree with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 04:51 PM
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Then why do you even care what whales do with their time
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 04:25 PM
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they can't imagine not being completely dysfunctional about sex and desire
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 03:25 PM
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Are you even dating whales? Or do they reject you too?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 03:07 PM
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Right, I thought our desirability is a runaway train destined for a firey crash
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 02:59 PM
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As a woman, you just naturally attract men as you go through life imagine if men were hitting on you, whistling at you, eyeing you up and down, catcalling you, and harassing you since you were 9 years old
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 05:53 AM
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just gonna unsubscribe for now 😀
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 05:52 AM
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husband material doesn't imply real attraction. That's exactly what husband material means
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 04:28 PM
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Liking someone isn't enough. They have to like her back & be trustworthy and understanding about her situation... willing to teach, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 02:08 PM
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a man will almost certainly have an orgasm, sooner or later. She probably wants to have fulfilling sex too
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 02:07 PM
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Me too :(
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 02:05 PM
2

Should women date down?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 05:05 AM
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The fact that women still can’t get their heads around the realities of hypergamy Can you elaborate?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 01:14 AM
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If only there was something in between
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 10:51 PM
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Blocking men you don't want to talk to isn't revenge, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 06:59 PM
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Is it really revenge if all they're doing is avoiding the type of men that hurt them? Because I don't think it is. They're simply trying to date kinder, better men and ranting about the ones that hurt them. Venting is cathartic, it doesn't hurt anyone on that forum. There are no FDS Eliot Rodgers' going around.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 06:42 PM
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Everything is subjective but, for the sake of this forum, it would be great to see how women define husband material.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 06:04 PM
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I genuinely think a lot of FDS readers are trying to figure out how to be their best selves and have safe, supportive, and healthy romantic relationships with men. But some of the posts are terrible, for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 06:03 PM
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I'd be happy to be out of that category and into the fuccboi category. Yes, because the only thing you value is sex. We get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 06:02 PM
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This is a stupid sentiment. FDS has some good principles but not everyone that posts there makes good arguments. My fiancé and I contribute to a joint checking and savings for household bills, utilities, etc., we don't just use all of his money for everything while I spent my money on whatever I want. That's not a partnership or a healthy relationship dynamic. My partner contributes significantly more though because he makes more and he wants to.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 03:40 PM
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FDS shouldn't even be on your radar... that sub is for mostly late 20s-30s+ women who have had bad relationships in the past. Don't lose your shit. No 17 year old girl is expecting you to be a provider or spend all your money on her because you probably don't have any.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 02:24 PM
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... a lot of things just came into perspective
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 02:19 PM
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I'm an engaged woman in my 30s, completely fascinated by sex and dating, and working as a social psych researcher who focuses on intimate relationship dynamics & gender. I come here because it is beyond fascinating to read and engage with the thoughts on sex, dating, and gender issues outside of structured research.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 02:18 PM
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Do you think the average guy has access to casual sex? Absolutely, yes, 100%. I'm surrounded by average men who casually date/bang with no issue. But they're all well adjusted and relatively confident. I have one friend who really struggles, he's average looking but above average height, however, he has low self-esteem which I think is his biggest hinderance
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 02:14 PM
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That would make them "husband material" The violent misuse of the term husband material by PPD men is hilarious. I'm assuming 99% of them here don't even make the cut. I wish someone would ask a Q4W about how they define husband material so we could settle this once and for all
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 02:12 PM
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The truth is that affection and loving relationships are the greatest factor in happiness (and reducing stress). If relationships are the goal, men have to stop trying to use women for casual sex and actually get to know people enough to foster romantic love. Most aren't up to that challenge, want sex without commitment and within the first few dates with no effort. Also, men are casting too wide of a net which doesn't help find romantic love, but someone as lonely as them with the same low stan…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 02:09 PM
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We get it, you're subservient to men. We get it already!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 02:04 PM
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Regarding the post on Korean women... If you are culturally expected to take care of in-laws, children, and the home, why would you not aspire to marry up? Why would you make your situation worse and marry down? It is better to be alone than to choose a life of struggling, birthing, and catering to in-laws.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 12:00 AM
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This manipulation tactic is awful but super common. He did x, y, and z, but he's still the victim because she reacted.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 09:00 PM
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"Women have too many options on dating apps" Too many men employ the swipe-right-on-everyone method with no results. Women are legit forced to completely ignore and disregard so many matches. Think about your first email address, you received a few emails and you'd check every one. Now, 5 years later, your inbox is so inundated with messages that you just glaze over unless something really sticks out to you. "Women aren't receptive to men in the wild" Legitimately no explanation needed for this …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 08:51 PM
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How did that relationship end up?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 04:52 PM
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Funny thing is, the guy whose podcast it is has a sex therapist wife. Really bonkers. They pretend to be all woke about sex and dating but she was a forever girlfriend who he slept with whenever he wanted and she was still around once he got tired of sleeping with everyone in LA... that's their success story. Now he has a misogynistic podcast with two of his friends and it's just a hot mess. I dislike them both immensely, lol. https://youtu.be/zXt5mudLvXw Good for you, glad your gf took you in.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 09:50 AM
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So, you are actually a friend to the person you're sleeping with. That's admirable. I was listening to a podcast recently with three dudes talking about how you shouldn't so much as be friendly to your FWB otherwise they might get the "wrong idea"
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 02:46 AM
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These are great examples
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 01:47 AM
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A toned bod that's not too muscly easy adds like 2-3 points for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 01:45 AM
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It’s nice that you equate “husband material” with “the perfect man.” But it isn’t realistic. But that's what it means, that's all I'm saying. No woman is using the term husband material to describe a guy she settled for.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 12:04 AM
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Men call women wife material because it's someone who they're settling for but will do everything domestic. Women use husband material to talk about the total package. There are fundamental differences in how the sexes view the "marriage material" thing What else would husband material be if not the total fricken package?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/21 09:57 PM
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there is “husband material”, something most average men can easily be Personally, I don't think the average man is even regular husband material. It's a fantasy for a reason. When women talk about husband material, they aren't talking about any-warm-body that may pay a few bills. They're talking about the rare type, not the person they settled for and are miserable with.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/21 09:56 PM
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Y'all think husband material is a negative because the only thing you value is sex. So husband material = no sex, thanks for clearing up all those misconceptions Husband material includes great sex, but because it also includes other things (hence the whole husband part) y'all freak out because the only thing you want is sex. Don't worry, no one will ever consider you husband material and you don't want to be! So you're safe
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/21 09:52 PM
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That's literally not what women mean when they say husband material, not at all. You are wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/21 09:48 PM
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Why are you trying to tell me what women mean by husband material? I'm a woman and I'm telling you y'all have it 100% wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/21 09:48 PM
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There's an obvious initial attraction and then everything just builds from there. More often than not though, I've found myself initially attracted to someone then over the course of a date or two realized I absolutely wasn't. So... time is important!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/21 08:06 PM
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Husband material is a good thing -> it means a guy is the total package, including attractive, smart, great sex, successful, etc etc. Y'all think husband material is a negative because the only thing you value is sex. You're offended someone would think you would be good at anything else, like being a good father and husband, because if anyone values anything other than having sex with you then you must not be a Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/21 08:02 PM
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Exactly. There's no friendship part anywhere in the equation, either. Best friends is a joke. You would not call your FWB to help you change a tire, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/21 03:16 PM
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You can't just google ugly guy in an ugly suit. Men are definitely elevated when they dress well, it is amazing actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 04:15 PM
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It means he's famous and rich, but dude is not attractive. He looks sick
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 01:50 AM
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Relationships are not attractive 😭 if someone isn't available that's a total buzz kill
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 01:48 AM
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You think he's a super duper sexy catch and all
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 01:46 AM
2

What's your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 12:45 AM
5

You may be attracted to him but I'm not
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 11:34 PM
1

More guys should try to be musicians then
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 10:00 PM
1

I, myself, feel strongly about a lot of things, but I recognize I don't know everything and can always learn more. I'm open-minded about flat earth theory insofar as I could talk to someone and hear them out. Why not? Doesn't mean I have to adopt their worldview or abandon the demonstrable fact that we live on a round planet.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 09:58 PM
1

demands I be above a certain height (even if I am above that height) You can't go up to a man and demand he be a certain height because it's a fixed trait. The most someone can do is state their preferences and then date accordingly, but that isn't a demand.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 04:55 PM
2

It just shows immaturity and a lack of emotional intelligence. Someone made you upset so you call them ugly, are you in 5th grade?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 04:52 PM
2

People who think they know everything come off as arrogant, rigid, and unattractive. This applies even to stuff like spirituality and religion. It's preferable to have a partner who is open-minded and can engage with different ideas about life and existence vs someone who is close-minded and staunch in their beliefs. That's my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 04:49 PM
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Dealbreakers are dealbreakers for a reason. I would rather stay alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 04:39 PM
5

You brought up a good point. People don't need a "huge majority" to be into them, they should find their niche and just be authentic. I think the issue with dating & sex is too many folks are focusing on how to be attractive to the most amount of people, which is a losing strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 04:38 PM
6

There are definitely tall, skinny feminine men though.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 02:41 PM
2

I might have been that woman 🤗
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 02:37 PM
3

Speaking of emo... what about Wicca Phase? He's def not a Chad but girls are obsessed with him
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 02:34 PM
2

Not millionaires but we are definitely high earners
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 10:44 AM
1

Not hold sex as some bargaining chip to get something else in return. Waiting to feel comfortable isn't a bargaining chip lol, but a lot of commenters on here have dysfunctional ideas about consensual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 02:12 AM
1

My fiancé loves doing nice things for me and has since the first date we ever went on so idk what to tell you, chief
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 02:10 AM
1

I'm not
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 01:10 AM
2

That bordered on a personal attack. Lmao, stop. she slept with someone and they didn't commit afterwards. Yep, and then she learned she should probably date people a little longer to find out if they want something serious or not. You're so offended because all you actually want from her to begin with is sex, and you want it easily, so just go find someone else you're compatible with because that girl simply deserves better. Imagine if a man got burned by several golddiggers and started demandin…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 11:35 PM
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The baseline assumption is they got burned by people they tried to build that connection with. Everyone gets burned though, everyone gets their heart broken. The answer isn't casting a wide net to catch any warm body, because that doesn't work either. It simply doesn't. When women get heart broken or disillusioned, they tighten their standards and really vet people. I just think men should do the same, that's all. Because high standards means higher quality results and it's worth it. Men just ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 08:10 PM
2

Stop casting a wide net and actually figure out what they want in another partner, then focus on that. The any-warm-body method is transparent, most people want someone to be more into them than that. Find people they actually connect with, they literally cannot do that if they're trying it with 4000 people, and that is the issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 07:00 PM
2

Most men are here because they're angry about their dating woes, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 06:44 PM
9

It seems self-evident to me. A man who dislikes women will probably prioritize his own pleasure and needs at the expense of hers?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 06:43 PM
12

Someone can be hot, but if they're misogynistic trash they are probably terrible in bed. I would go home before I'm used as a masturbatory object and so would a lot of other woman. Maybe orgasmless sex is some people's deal, but it's definitely not mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 06:19 PM
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I honestly genuinely and truly believe the core issue is that men don't have enough discretion. They think everything is a numbers game and spread themselves terribly thin trying to half-heartedly court as many women as possible thinking one will hopefully result in sex. It's seems to be "logical" but it simply isn't working. Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and over and over again and expecting different results. This doesn't even reach the threshold of awareness because most PPD …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 06:17 PM
1

The goal is to find a guy who you have great sex with because sex is amazing. The reason people stop having sex is because of unaddressed relationship issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 06:13 PM
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Let me get this straight. In this hypothetical scenario, someone hurt the girl you like and you're mad that she's not giving you the opportunity to do the same? It's a good thing you'll bounce because she deserves a better human being.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 06:12 PM
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And we like to know what kind of human being we're dating before we let them into our bodies
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 04:27 PM
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How do y'all know what other women have done????
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 04:26 PM
2

Just date women that desire you then 🤷🏽‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 04:22 PM
0

shy genuinely nerdy girls to girls who party 6 nights a week throw themselves It sounds like you're talking about women between the ages of 16-21, there are more women in the world
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 03:16 PM
2

Let's be real, women can't tell the difference between 6' and 5'11" I can because I'm 5'8" without shoes and any guy who claims to be 5'11" is probably two inches shorter
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 02:49 PM
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I think they are just at a point in life where they aren't interested in sex/relationships like that Jeff Bezos was cheating on his wife sending cringe sexts and dick pics to a married woman, you know that right
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 02:45 PM
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women lust for and throw themselves at professional athletes, actors, musicians A specific type of women but not the guys writing their cheques, who would have more status If they're attractive and well off, I'm sure they are doing okay dating-wise how many women would genuinely rather fuck Bill than the other guy? You make a great point, Bill Gates seems thoroughly unfuckable to me and his billions are irrelevant
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 02:43 PM
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Until they wise up and realize it does not benefit them to sleep with random men who don't care about their sexual satisfaction, so they propose standards and getting to know someone, and men on PPD lose their minds
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 02:33 PM
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And over 80% of women know crushing disappointment
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 04:34 AM
3

Sleeping with someone depends on a combination of attraction, chemistry, emotional connection, and comfort. These things happen at different rates with everyone so it's not the same. I've dated guys who I found extremely attractive but didn't quite feel 1) an emotional connection or 2) comfort with so we did not sleep together right away. I've dated average guys who I've felt super comfortable with and attracted to and the physical aspect would progress much quicker. That's all I'm saying. It's …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 11:47 PM
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This logic is so flawed. There is no benefit to sleeping with strangers, it is thoroughly terrifying and unenjoyable. I'm not taking a stranger out for a test run with my body before I even know if I like them. I lose nothing by getting to know someone first, and I lose everything by sleeping with a man I have no desire or connection to. People are different and it is what it is. There are billions of chicks that will happily give your dick a test run without knowing anything about you, have fun…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 10:31 PM
7

Having sex with random guys who don't care about us is a one way ticket to the No Cum Zone, no thanks. Would you have orgasmless sex with women?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 09:13 PM
5

Why do you guys think you know someone's explicit sexual history?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 09:11 PM
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Some people don't want to have sex with total strangers, sorry that bugs you
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 08:57 PM
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Because there are many women who are afraid of being seen as easy, so they hold off until sex becomes acceptable And there are many women that genuinely don't like sleeping with strangers and don't have sex with any guy right away... LTR or casual relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 06:22 PM
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The only thing that's valuable to PPD men is access to vaginas.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 06:20 PM
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Not mutual attraction, emotional connection, and friendship? Just strrrrrraight to penetration, huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 05:55 PM
5

The first building block to what?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 04:38 PM
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Y'all are so delusional here, lol. Husband material to woman is the whole package ... handsome, incredible, sexy, successful. Just because wife material to men means some asexual woman who will cook, clean, and birth your children does not mean it's equivalent to women in the same way. Husband material is goals, and 90% of you all are not even close.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 04:37 PM
1

When I said I was okay with feeling bad, I did not mean I liked bad boys. Decent people can make you feel bad. You can have relationship & incompatibility issues with people who aren't stereotypical bad boys. And I was a teenager, definitely was not my most attractive since I was still basically a developing child at that point.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 02:12 AM
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Good point, when I was a teenager and didn't know any better I was more okay with feeling bad. It's interesting, once women gain a sense of self worth and quality they tolerate less bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 12:15 AM
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If you make me feel bad, I'm outta there
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/21 09:18 PM
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We have evolved to find women in their 20s to be the most attractive. It's really as simple as that. Sure, I'll go ahead and believe there's no cognition happening whatsoever in men that intentionally seek out the youngest women they can find. They're just big ole dumb dumb Neanderthals
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 09:57 AM
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In your opinion, is sex a marital duty that both partners must perform whether they want to or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 11:30 PM
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"attractive" has been redefined to the point where it is unrealistically obtainable Perhaps we are in different age and social groups, because no one I know expects their partner to be a supermodel. In fact, I feel like I'm surrounded by relatively average or above average people just living their lives. you're saying that normal men must act inappropriately to even try to date. No, I'm not. for many men, there is never anyone who seems to be into them in a social setting. how are they supposed …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 10:47 PM
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Yeah, it didn't, because I thought we were talking about dating and casual sex. Just because you're married to someone doesn't mean you become their Sexbot 5000 and have sex whenever your husband pushes the "Sex, please" button
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 10:19 PM
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You'll meet women in person if you have friends, have a life, have activities to do, are sociable, and at least try to be attractive Flirting is inappropriate if its unwarranted, you've got to learn how to read the room. If you're in a social setting where someone seems to be into you and you them, there you go. Flirting with random women minding their business is terrible and no one likes that. What honest mistake results in severe consequences? Can you give any such example?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 10:16 PM
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Great point - women take pride in their appearance and do things to enhance themselves. Makeup, dressing better, etc. The average guy doesn't give a shit about making himself look attractive, doesn't dress well or even try to. Lots of men do, but the average guy doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 10:10 PM
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First off, you rarely see the man look worse than the women in a relationship. He always looks better. We must live in different worlds because from what I've seen women always look better than the guys they date
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 08:34 PM
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I think the moral of the story is to get off dating apps and meet people in person, like she says. 👍🏽
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 08:33 PM
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Should women just have sex as charity?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 08:24 PM
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Average and below average women are able to get on tinder or any other dating site and get attention and dates from men way out of their league. This raises their looks standard. Now your average woman that would have been fine with dating an average guy if old wasn't a thing, is now only attracted to male models. It's as simple as that. Most average women are dating and marrying average men though. This idea about attention raising women's standards doesn't hold up once you walk outside of your…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 08:20 PM
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Women are not the solution to men's problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 08:09 PM
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No one cares about men's problems. Men need to collectively worry about their problems first. We, as women, can not do all of the work. And to be 100% honest, I do care about men's problems because I exist and have to share a planet with you all.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 05:04 PM
2

And the only men that complain about gold diggers are the ones that don't have any gold 🤷🏽‍♀️ Women date up knowing that they'll be the primary bearers and caretakers of children and the home. It makes sense ... but 50/50 financial relationships are way more common, even while women are more responsible for the child rearing, cooking, and cleaning Your animosity towards women kinda highlights that you'll never even be remotely in the orbit of the women you dislike, so you can rest easy my friend
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 04:53 PM
1

Does hypergamy need any justification?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 01:39 PM
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would you truly feel fulfilled and happy knowing that you're essentially only getting starfish sex from a woman twice a month because society pretty much forced her into it? That's why men had affairs with their young secretaries and had secret families states away... gotta have more sex somehow!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 01:36 PM
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The technically not all is implied! Always! Unless you have some weird all encompassing ideology, but even those make exceptions
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 01:19 PM
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they aren't emotionally complex. Why are women then able to be emotionally complex and raw with each other without having to trauma bond? Why can't men do this?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 01:17 PM
1

Which side gets killed the most by the other side?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 01:13 PM
1

Seriously 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 01:07 PM
1

Sounds terrible
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 06:17 PM
2

Across or up/down what domain exactly? Are we talking about looks, class, finances, education, etc? Because men seem to date up looks wise, across finances, across/up/down with education. Women tend to date down/across lookswise, across class, up finances, across/down on education .... from my perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 01:45 PM
1

Do you consider entitlement and expectations to be the same thing? Because I believe most women have expectations of their dates but don't necessarily feel entitled to anything. I think entitlement is rare, especially considering how many women actually go dutch or go on low/no cost dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 01:24 PM
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If someone is paying for me, I order the cheapest thing on the menu and still feel like a leech. You have value as a human being, you don't have to order the cheapest thing and feel like a burden. There's a happy medium here somewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 01:04 PM
3

That 6'6" Chad famous basketball player probably loves to wine and dine chicks like it ain't no thang
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 04:24 AM
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There are men that genuinely enjoy wining and dining their dates, they have the funds, they have the personality, they like women exactly like Sugarfuzz. Then there are men that absolutely don't want to pay for a woman who they think is entitled, they want a completely different dynamic, they want someone who feels grateful and wants to go half. They should not date Sugarfuzz. These types of people live in different worlds and hopefully never interact.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 04:21 AM
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I was thinking more along the lines of simply dating people you actually like and have things in common with. That requires discernment and standards... if someone is throwing it out there to 4000 women per year they definitely don't have high enough standards or vetting. Idk, we're all looking for different things I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 04:17 AM
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Being alone is better than dating someone you don't even like and have nothing in common with, honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 01:45 AM
1

Do your core values, interests, and hobbies inform your dating decisions or are you just trying to date any woman with a pulse and a normal BMI?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 01:27 AM
2

Let me help you out - no human being can court 4,000 women in a year. The fact that you have even come across that many women (through Tinder?) means you aren't even looking at them as human beings anymore. You're playing a numbers game and surely can't be engaging with people you even like. Discretion and discernment are a GOOD THING. Stop setting yourself up to even be rejected by 4,000 women. What are you even looking for at this point?????
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 12:56 AM
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There's a lot about interacting with romantic partners that people have to unlearn. Instead of engaging in introspection, most people change nothing about themselves and blame everyone else... especially the people on PPD. It's one big Do I have any desirable traits or know how to be in a relationship with other people? No, it is the women and society at large who are wrong! -fest.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 04:53 PM
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I realized the point, I just don't agree with it. Being nice/considering yourself nice to the opposite sex is still acting in a certain way/projecting a certain attribute, which still seems like performative niceness to me. Regardless, more people need to understand that being "nice" is not a personality. It is a fleeting, impermanent attribute that doesn't mean anything. Anyone can be nice when it matters, even the meanest most unpleasant person you know. The nice guy debate is tired and lazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 07:25 AM
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Women want guys who are kind and caring, in addition to several other desirable traits, like being attractive, interesting, confident, funny, etc. The same goes for men. Performative kindness is not a personality and no one has to apologize for not being attracted to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 05:42 AM
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Women definitely date guys without cars or jobs. It's an entire cultural theme in black movies -> dating a guy with no job who borrows her car while she goes to work to pay all of the bills, etc. See: Baby Boy and many, many, many others
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 05:34 AM
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Yeah, it's fucking depressing here. Men who hate women and themselves sit on Reddit talking about how hypergamy, feminism, and the internet are the reason why they're alone. It hasn't dawned on them that it might be because of their abysmal self-hatred and pessimism that literally no person would want to ever be around. People of average attractiveness & average means are living their lives and getting married everywhere all across the globe... do these people here ever go outside?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 05:20 AM
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These blanket statements about what women are like is terrifying. You're on a planet with billions of men and women, most of them if the same attractiveness and social class interacting and marrying each other. Then you adopt a damning caricature of female behavior and apply it to every single woman you interact with for the rest of your life when most women are doing nothing for you to be angry at them for.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 05:11 AM
1

What about the behaviors of men, do you have any critiques about things they do and how it might affect your dating life?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 05:14 PM
1

These self defeating comments are so depressing. You have to believe you have some agency over your dating life or else you will create the same scenarios over and over again forever
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 01:22 AM
1

Honestly, if you log off the internet and interact with real people doing real things in the real world, you'll realize how little PPD applies to what most people think
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 01:13 AM
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Most people are looksmatched. This is what I see every where. Exactly. Men on PPD are delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 10:28 PM
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Yeah, once I learned how women "love," I became incapable of loving them. Now the only thing that matters is how will they benefit me. Yikes
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 10:26 PM
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love the outfit, super hot!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 06:21 PM
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I'm sorry if who you are is not someone anyone wants to date 😢
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 03:27 PM
2

😒 c'mon man There's nothing "to do" besides be yourself and form authentic connections with people
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 11:03 AM
7

Compared to the zero that exist about women with excessive vibrator use while ignoring their relationship? Seems to be a relevant distinction
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 02:37 AM
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Pretty certain there are hundreds of posts on reddit alone about this experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 02:26 AM
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People withdraw when they sense someone isn't genuine. If I liked someone and they started doing and saying a lot of sweet things soon after meeting, I would think they were being manipulative and using "sweetness" to disarm me. I would lose interest almost instantly. Now engaged to a very sweet and thoughtful person and I've never once got sketchy feelings about his gestures... long story short women absolutely want sweet, loving men... it just has to be real. Obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 02:01 AM
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These things simply aren't equivalent at all. There isn't an entire culture of women who have withdrawn from sex in favor of sex toys at the expense of their partners. Does it happen? Anything is possible but I don't think it's a thing. Excessive porn usage can change human behavior, arousal, performance, and a host of other things... but that's when it's excessive, I think that point important to consider.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 01:35 AM
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That's absolutely not true. Most incels obsess and fantasize about the dating habits of above average or super hot women. Average or below average women don't even exist to them... unless it's to make half assed efforts at manipulating them. Once they're rejected, they use that as proof that ALL women are shallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 02:30 AM
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We're all visual creatures. No attractive guy is settling for an uggo either.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 07:17 PM
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Exactly. They think the option to have sex with people is the only thing that matters. They are upset because there aren't 20 women just ready and willing to have casual, no-strings-attached sex with men who don't care about them. They're even madder that ultra attractive men seem to get sex easily, and they take their anger out on the women in that situation instead of trying to make themselves more appealing in any way. It is fucking bonkers.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 07:16 PM
1

Is your wife fucking other men because she's tired of sleeping with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 03:32 PM
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90% is definitely an exaggeration. Attraction and looks matter to everyone, that goes without saying. But, I guess OP is trying to make a point that personality & conversation skills matter as well. That's definitely true.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 03:25 PM
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All you need to do is learn to talk, get good with the language that you use, learn how to be witty and quick on your feet. getting a dapper look and nice clothes can helps but 90% of scoring a girl depends on how you use your tongue (figuratively ;) ) But that goes against the ultimate male fantasy, which is some drop dead sexy 10/10 who materializes out of nowhere and loves them exactly as they are and expects absolutely nothing of them. Insinuating that they must be desirable in any way is vi…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 03:18 PM
3

Exactly. I simply don't care about men's dating woes. They absolutely don't give a shit about mine, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 03:10 PM
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second date and still wanna hold back on sex, you know... You can feel a connection with someone and not want to immediately have sex with them because they are literally still strangers, you know that right?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 10:04 PM
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there is nothing bad to just want to have some fun Why is it so hard to understand that some people don't find having sex with people they barely know as fun?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 09:54 PM
1

The men on here believe you're not serious about a guy unless you immediately let him use your body as a fleshlight.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 09:52 PM
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Do not sleep with this guy. He does not sound like he actually likes you for you. He just wants to sleep with you. You're allowed to want a deeper connection with someone, and you're allowed to want to wait for sex. Anyone that rushes and pressures, even slightly, does not deserve another date.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 09:47 PM
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