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How emotionally available a man is towards a woman, at least in the sense of how positive, caring, attentive, patient he is towards her, is a function of how much hotter the woman is. Link: http://www.psypost.org/2010/04/happy-marriage-attractive-husband-562
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/18 11:26 PM
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As always when men ask "why do feminists", the answer is "it's not the same people".
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/18 11:23 PM
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I can't make my body Stacy. Large shoulders, muscular arms, large rib cage, wide back, long torso, narrow straight hips, short skinny muscular legs. I'd had to that large head, which also cannot be changed. And of course a load of freckles much larger than you can imagine.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/18 11:22 PM
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Welcome to the real world where men don't cherish women and college-educated Millennial men swim in so much pussy they can reject who they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/18 05:18 PM
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They used an equal amount of good-looking and bad-looking men and women. Overall being male got more callbacks for identical resumes. Anyway if you want me to search specifically for this topic, it shows what I'm saying too: https://www.news.com.au/finance/work/careers/the-same-resume-with-different-names-nets-different-results/news-story/a2a182fb4570e948c27ce63139ee66b1 In large companies (over 500 employees), 62 per cent of hiring managers said it was extremely probable they would interview ‘S…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/18 05:00 PM
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You LIE about the studies to try to influence those who won't read them. The Italian study DID compare male vs female and the male candidates got 32% callback rate while the female candidates got 28% callback rate for the SAME RESUMES. You're doubly crooked because you mention that attractive women get more of a boost than attractive men but COWARDLY leave out that the unattractive women's penalty is much larger than the boost! Unattractive men get 26% callback rate and unattractive women get 7%…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/18 03:34 PM
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I just posted tree links all from recent years.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/18 03:07 PM
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I mean there's a ton. Off the top of my head: Same application randomly assigned male or female: https://news.yale.edu/2012/09/24/scientists-not-immune-gender-bias-yale-study-shows more likely to hire the male, ranked him higher in competency, and were willing to pay him $4000 more than the woman. They were also more willing to provide mentoring to the male than to the female candidate. Same CV changing name/photo only: https://c-5uwzmx78pmca09x24ux78zix2ecjx2ecvq-ucmvkpmvx2elm.g00.medicaldaily.…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/18 02:59 PM
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Same my ex was fat, short (5'5), broke, a drunk and unsuccessful in life. I liked him because he was my age and I was able to approach him.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/18 02:12 PM
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Well I was talking about college too. But I agree yeah. High school is a pretty good day-care too. Putting them somewhere and giving them something to do. A microcosm to learn about how to be social.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/18 12:29 PM
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But there are also studies where they send identical CVs with either a male or a female name and the man gets hired more and gets offered more mentorship. I think as long as there are studies going both ways we can't really know.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/18 12:22 PM
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The violence gap, education gap and fathers' rights are all important men's issues I think. If we can modify the education system to help men I'm all for that. That being said, the education system wasn't tailored to favor girls, girls entered an existing education system that had been constructed for boys, and they just happen to fit well into it. So yes we can see the education system favors girls, but it's not because it was designed to favor girls. I think the way it was designed before girl…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/18 12:17 PM
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No auto mod... I think it's true that women are more responsible: doing well in school, getting jobs, being nice to others, compassionate, not doing too much drugs or too much crimes, and they are more sociable. In Canada women are also slimmer than men, so I would say they exercise more and eat better here. When it comes to family, women do most of the childcare and housework, even when they earn more than their partner. Women are just really selfless. It's good to see someone acknowledge these…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/18 11:48 AM
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I was fit, didn't "make scenes in public" whatever that means, I was always volunteering and involved, plus I had a large group of friends. I still didn't get approached by men for 25+ years and I got rejected by several men, some incels, the others low normie friends. I was always aiming lower in terms of wealth and success too. If you have an awkward face, such as freckles, coupled with an awkward body, such as large shoulders, men run like the plague (except to friendzone you, men loved me as…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/18 10:51 AM
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If 17-year-old guys can call themselves incels because they've been called ugly and no one has wanted to date them, why can't girls do the same? I was personally called ugly by men despite never being fat and I've been rejected from dating by even the incels. Men are thirsty yes, but even them want to avoid being with a girl that their friends won't think is hot. It only changes when they become too thirsty and realize they aren't getting Stacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/18 10:42 AM
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I see fat fucks in relationships with Stacies all the time and they aren't beta bucks because they are broke and do poorly in school, moreso than their girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/18 10:41 AM
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Bullshit. I was thin, athletic, I had an interesting life and I had male friends who thought I wasn't bitchy at all, yet no guy approached me for 25+ years and I got rejected by several guys I approached, including incels, the others being low normie friends. There are 4 girls for every 3 guy in college, so the guys can afford to be picky and wait in case Stacy changes her mind and picks them. That's the reality. Even the ones in STEM get girlfriends from other programs or orbit a Stacy. Every b…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/18 10:39 AM
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Seriously, that's what you come up with? Reminder that men are more likely to overestimate their looks and that women are more likely to underestimate their looks, But men block their ears and like to pretend the opposite is happening. Why can't men be logical? Women are also more low self-esteem and therefore do not try to go for the top guys. Messaging patterns online show that it is men who always aim for the top woman no matter who they are themselves. Of course men project all of that on wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/18 10:33 AM
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I just silently watched what my parents were doing? I saw who rushed to the store to get colored cardboards for my school project at 9 pm after coming home from a 14h work day and I saw who sat in front on his computer after coming home from a 9h work day. No one complained, but I saw who was doing what. Who went to the pharmacy to get special acne treatment for my brother, who made sure I had clothes, who signed the checks for my swimming competitions, who bought stuff so we'd have food to make…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/18 02:34 PM
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I saw what my dad was doing?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/18 02:29 PM
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No, I legit didn't hear my mom complain. I saw what my dad was doing while he was home and my mom wasn't, which was like 5 hours every day before and after school.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/18 02:28 PM
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I'm tired of these men complaining "this is what you're supposed to do as a husband". My mom makes 4X what my dad makes, she worked much longer hours than him and still took care of the house and the kids more than him. She never complained a single day about any of this. Same for all the other women I know who make more than their partner. No complaints and they do more on all front. What is wrong with men that they complain so much? Do they seriously hate having to do stuff?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/18 11:28 AM
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You sound like you're saying a marriage where the woman makes more money is unfair then because the man doesn't have to "establish himself and gain financial stability".
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/18 11:26 AM
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No? There are women who make more money than the father of their baby so then you can't say the man is doing anything of value.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/18 11:25 AM
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Anecdote: my uncle is a doctor and his wife is a nurse. My uncle pays for almost everything and his wife pays for the groceries and pockets her paycheck. She manages his money somewhat too since that's the family money. That's how I think it should be. My uncle probably makes $200k+ and my aunt makes $80k. It's just fair. She has her security by saving her paycheck. My mom is some type of specialized surgeon and she makes like 4X what my dad makes. She pays for everything and my dad uses his mon…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/18 11:16 AM
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Yes, marriage is only for the rich and pretty. If you're not all that, no man is going to be 100% that he wants to tie himself to you for life. There might be a Stacy out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/18 03:09 PM
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Yes, it seems the norm around me rather than the exception. It's not Disney-esque, but it's real-life-esque. Like two people meet and fall in love and stay together. Both of my brothers married beautiful women who make more money than they do, and they were the first woman they had been with. They are obviously very happy. Most of my friends met someone through school or work or online. It seems like all the men in my family or group of friends married up (often a doctor Stacy), whereas the wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/18 02:30 PM
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He seemed proud to be around me, he thought I was beautiful, but I think it was because I'm white and he wasn't. That sounds like a horrible thing to say, but it's the vibe I got from hearing him talk about these matters. He often called himself brown and ugly. I swear that didn't come from me! I never said anything about race, I didn't even notice it, and when he pointed it all, I always replied with "I love your skin color, it's so beautiful, you're so handsome". He just hated other cultures, …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/18 11:00 AM
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I'm not very attractive, he wasn't very attractive either, I stayed with him because it was like... "I found a guy who wants to date me! better stick this through hell and all! love finds a way!" Anyway my philosophy was always more "what can I do to bring joy to this guy", not "what can this guy bring me", so I was willing to weather a solid drop in my happiness to make him happy! Like it really made me unhappy that I had to stop traveling for him and that I had to drop most of my activities fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/18 10:38 AM
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I don't care about penises. I don't know what I saw in him, just that I was able to strike up a conversation with him and he responded by being interested in me. That's all it takes! 1) be approachable 2) respond with interest The reason why I approached him initially was because he was around my age and he came from a country I was interested in. My train of thought was just "that guy seems like he's around my age and he's from that country I'm interested in, I'll go talk to him!". No further r…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/18 09:40 AM
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Well I dated years ago when I was a normie with lots of friends and I didn't spend a single minute on reddit or similar platforms back then. And back then I definitely didn't discuss relationships, pills, or incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/18 09:02 AM
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No. I am a woman who dated down.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/18 08:49 AM
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I think I can genuinely like anyone. I guess I didn't have a mission when it came to dating other than do what everyone else does which is get a boyfriend and try to please him. I just didn't notice that we're supposed to choose capable or good-looking men. I didn't know that some people are better than others and that the ones I got together with were omegas :(
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/18 08:43 AM
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I had a mission and I dated men without a mission :( I was fit and exercised hours every day and I dated guys who weren't fit and never exercised :(
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/18 08:06 AM
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Gender reversed version of that story does happen. I had cool hobbies and a busy life when I met my boyfriend mid twenties and he had no life and no hobbies and no job and he always got mad at me until I dropped everything for him. Actually once I dropped everything he just found new reasons to be mad at me, so there was no winning.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/18 07:33 AM
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Would you describe yourself as a feminist? Sure. I think it's offensive not to describe yourself as a feminist since feminism means gender equality. And no, feminism isn't bad for men, for instance I believe women have to provide as much as men and men don't have any responsibility that women don't have. The only responsibility they have I guess is that if they are going to hit a woman they should use less force than she would, because even at the same height and weight women are weaker. Why sho…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/18 07:20 PM
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But we're raised with the opposite idea: be a good girl who gives any loser a chance, don't care about looks, don't care about money, don't ask for anything and love him unconditionally. It takes a while to realize the message society is selling us is biased.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/18 04:33 PM
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The abuse is when you try to prevent her from making an enlightened decision. Behaviors include: belittling her so she thinks she can't find another man, getting angry when she meets new people until she develops Pavlovian social anxiety, crushing her dreams until she's an empty shell with nowhere to go, preventing her from reaching out to friends to get second opinions on the relationship, lying so she doesn't know how much of a loser you truly are, etc. It's not really age-dependent, all men c…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/18 02:57 PM
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All I'm saying is that sometimes the first guy you date turns out to be an omega loser with no plans to get married, or people move away, or both. It's not really fair that women only get one shot when men are so unstable, especially in their youth. Men want to switch girlfriend and life a few times while they are young before settling down.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/18 03:39 AM
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Yeah but if you go with the approach that women are one use only then there won't be enough women for every man because some men will use more than one. A woman with the willingness to try new things... becomes a woman with experience as soon as she meets a man. Then the next man also wants an adventurous inexperienced woman, but it can't keep going like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/18 07:07 PM
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Just because it's harder doesn't make it nobler. In fact, it makes it more despicable, because the guy, despite having few opportunities to cheat or branch swing, actively went looking for that opportunity and made it happen, whereas the woman probably virtuously turned down many opportunities and only succumbed when someone made her an offer she couldn't refused.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/18 10:51 AM
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The low value men accept what they can get. it can be from a 0 to a complete 10 Empty words. There are plenty of women who accept any man. This is why plenty of 0 men have girlfriends and wives. The thing is, you won't find a person who "accepts anyone" and is still single. Women who accept any man are already in a relationship. Incel men who claim they would accept any woman are lying or they'd have been with someone already.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/18 08:31 AM
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Most married women I know married men who make less than they do, considerably so. I think they get married for love and because it's still that cultural rite of passage from childhood to adulthood, creating your own family, having that romantic memory with friends and family. You still hear people say "i hope i live long enough to see my daughter's wedding" so not getting married is kind of a failure of life stages. But more and more people stop caring about that and proceed to the next stages …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/18 03:03 PM
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LOOK AT MY OTHER LINKS. THEY ARE IN THIS THREAD. THERE IS A US STUDY ABOUT GRADES 6 TO 12. I DO NOT HAVE TO RELINK IT PRIVATELY TO YOU JUST BECAUSE YOU ARE TOO LAZY TO READ THE OTHER COMMENTS ON THE THREAD BEFORE COMMENTING.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/18 02:56 PM
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I ALREADY DID LINK THEM. READ THE THREAD MATE. THIS ISN'T A PRIVATE CONVERSATION. I ALREADY TOLD YOU I ALREADY LINKED IT AND I TOLD YOU WHICH ONE AND I QUOTED FROM IT. THE LINK IS THERE MATE.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/18 02:50 PM
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I said check my other links. I said check the US study. Look, you're wrong, and you're too much of a baby to admit it, so you stall. This is silly. You're like "waaahh i can't navigate this thread and read the other comments i need you to repost your other link specifically for me otherwise I'll ignore its existence wahhhh".
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/18 02:42 PM
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I already did. Check out my other links. I spammed them. “Mean girls”-style behavior declined significantly from grade six to 12 So the US study was from grade 6 to 12, ie. ages 12 to 18.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/18 02:31 PM
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I can't do that cause I'm nice, principled and not manipulative. I wouldn't accept anything anyway, I'm just pointing out that no man ever offered anything. And I dated way below and I gave them all the sex. Sex was never when I wanted it LOL. And believe me I dated way down.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/18 02:26 PM
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It actually says it decreases with age.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/18 02:24 PM
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https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3736589/ https://psmag.com/social-justice/mean-boys-social-bullying-isnt-just-girls-98119 https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2016/10/161017083720.htm
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/18 02:00 PM
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girls are more socially bullied. Myth.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/18 01:59 PM
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There is one worse than the other because boys do more "male" bullying and as much "female" bullying as the girls. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3736589/
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/18 01:59 PM
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Well boys do more of one and equal of the other. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3736589/
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/18 01:57 PM
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False. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3736589/
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/18 01:56 PM
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Stop your false stereotypes. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3736589/
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/18 01:54 PM
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Boys do more physical bullying, but as much psychological bullying. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3736589/
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/18 01:51 PM
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Everyone in this thread says "women do more psychological bullying", even though that's a myth, and then everyone upvotes each other because they agree with their misinformation. Circlejerking at its finest.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/18 01:49 PM
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Funny you'd say that because studies show men do just as much psychological bullying as women. Psychological bullying being associated with women is a sad misogynistic myth. Literally everyone is this thread just assumes psychological bullying = women and I'm the only one who bothers to look it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/18 01:46 PM
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Well I'm just tired of everyone assuming the worst about women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/18 01:43 PM
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MYTH. Well it is true that men do more physical aggression, however men do as much psychological/relationship aggression as women. So overall men bully with greater intensity and frequency.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/18 01:36 PM
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car rides, small gifts, food, alcohol without even batting an eye. which I presume these guys you had sex with gave you but you didn't register as "free stuff". Do you have to be an asshole about this? If I say I didn't get any free stuff, it means I didn't get any free stuff. NO. NO FUCKING CAR RIDES, NO FUCKING FOOD, NO FUCKING DRINKS. THEY NEVER BOUGHT ME ANY-FUCKING-THING AND THEY NEVER PAID FOR A DATE. WHY THE FUCK IS IT SO FUCKING HARD TO UNDERSTAND??? I'm fucking tired of everyone fucking…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/18 01:07 PM
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Girls don't do more social and psychological bullying than boys. It's just a stereotype rooted in misogyny as usual. https://psmag.com/social-justice/mean-boys-social-bullying-isnt-just-girls-98119 Just because it's girls' principal tool of bullying people assume they do it more, but actually it seems like boys do it more, on top of also doing the physical bullying. All in all it obviously makes boys the worse bullies. https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2016/10/161017083720.htm "The study con…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/18 01:00 PM
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Men. There's this stereotype that women do more relational aggression (excluding, talking behind the back, damaging a reputation, etc.) than men, but studies show it's not true. Men do more physical, verbal, direct violence and they also do more relational aggression, so with both things compounded, men are definitely the worst bullies. Edit: This question could be settled by a quick Google search, but instead we have to sit here and watch the circlejerk of people spreading the false stereotype …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/18 12:54 PM
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Well i feel bad taking stuff from people anyway. But they didn't offer.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/18 12:51 PM
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Just because it happens to your cousin doesn't mean it happens to everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/18 12:50 PM
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Not surprised. Girls are thoughtful.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/18 10:55 AM
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Men exaggerate how often women make false rape accusations. Men exaggerate how much money women get from dating men. Men exaggerate how high the requirements are to get a girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/18 04:44 AM
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Not getting free stuff is considered a "bad experience" now?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/18 04:41 AM
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I'm a person. It never happened to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/18 04:40 AM
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Or maybe you don't know the world as well as you think you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/18 04:07 AM
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Not good for me. Good for men. I get no reward for being a good person.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/18 04:06 AM
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Ridiculous. I had sex with guys and dated guys and never got free stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/18 03:50 AM
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Ridiculous. I had sex with ugly men and never got free stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/18 03:50 AM
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Ridiculous. I had sex with guys and got no free stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/18 03:49 AM
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Ridiculous advice. I dated men, had sex with them, smiled to them, I never got a penny worth of free stuff, they never took me on a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/18 03:48 AM
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Or he was just trying to help. How do you know he wouldn't have stopped to help you if you were a fat dude? Some people are just good people.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/18 03:47 AM
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Gifts are a joke. I've had sex with men and never received any free stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/18 03:45 AM
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That's ridiculous. I actually had sex with men and got no free stuff out of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/18 03:44 AM
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Have you ever been to a bar? Losers will trip over themselves trying to get you drinks with no indication of reciprocal interest Been to bars. Never been offered a free drink. You men are absolutely delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/18 03:43 AM
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How is that possible though? I actually gave sex to guys and never got a penny of free stuff for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/18 03:42 AM
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That is what dating and vetting is for. I think I've dated wrong my whole life. I never vetted anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/18 02:09 PM
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And I think men and women would act the same: if they find a partner that's better in every way to replace the role the old partner played, they will branch-swing. If the new partner is just hot, but couldn't replace the husband/wife and mother/father, then they will prefer to cheat. It doesn't matter that the man wants to keep the wife around because she cooks Christmas dinners and that the woman wants to keep the husband around because he changes tires, the bottom line is that they both want t…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/18 12:37 PM
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The point is that the reason women branch-swing is because they have to make one man their main man, and men also have to make one woman their main woman, so they are just as prone to branch swinging, if not more. It doesn't matter that "men would like to have a beta wife and several mistresses" anymore than "women would like to have a beta husband and several Chad lovers" because in practicality neither gender can do these things. Her comment does not support the idea that women are more branch…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/18 06:19 AM
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That's not how it works, that's not how any of that works. You could just as easily say "A woman will be perfectly happy to keep her 45-year-old husband who has given her four children and changes her car tires every year, as long as she can also have a 30-year-old Chad Thundercock banging her brains out when her hubby's not looking, and Tyrone fucking her in his ski chalet, and that attractive dilf from soccer practice." You would say it doesn't make sense because no husband would want that, ri…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/18 06:03 AM
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I agree with this OP. Men demand commitment, especially the low value ones. Every time I tried dating a guy he was the one to lay down the law telling me I needed to be exclusive to him. The woman gives up more by committing to a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/18 11:35 AM
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Anecdotes are not made up, so I guess you just proved you're bullshitting. I have articles, logic, examples, arguments, lots of things that prove your wild claims wrong. You have only your bulllshit made-up theories.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/18 09:15 AM
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Nah sorry bro, your condescending sentence "next time make sure you understand the concept before you use evidence" isn't enough to fool me into thinking that I didn't understand the concepts. I disagree with everything you've added, and I did a better job at supporting my point, you are just regurgitating the bullshit you made up or picked up from others who also conjured it out of thin air. You have no proof that women are not happy with not the top men, but that men are happy with not the top…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/18 08:12 AM
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Fair enough, but how come I didn't get resentful and bored at my boyfriends' inactivity?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/18 08:08 AM
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YOU look at OKCupid data. Reds keep regurgitating that analysis without an ounce of critical thinking. The massaging pattern shows that men overwhelmingly messaged the most attractive women, while women messaged all men about equally, with only a slight shift towards higher attractiveness. Convenient how reds can look at a single graft and ignore part of the information that's presented on it. Earlier today someone even linked me to a version that was the same graft based on the same data, but w…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/18 08:07 AM
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How did you get a boyfriend if you didn't sleep with him until you got engaged? Most people don't consider it dating if you just hang around and don't have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/18 08:02 AM
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I suppose if she's a hardcore doormat and doesn't press me for more of my time/effort then it could drag on much longer That was me, I dated guys who didn't have anything going for them and I placated them by doing their demands and I never demanded anything out of them, so they kept me around for sex as long as it was feasible (ex: until they moved). These girls are "only temporary" because they usually have lame-ass lives and have little to offer me except for someone new to fuck. It was actua…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/18 07:57 AM
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It's not always like that. I was the placeholder girlfriend for the guys I dated, and they were the ones who had no drive, who were simple, who didn't get out or have ideas. I was a rather challenging girlfriends as I was climbing mountains, studying challenging things, etc., but they still weren't into me. I think a girl is a place holder if the guy doesn't like her, regardless of how much stuff she does. My last boyfriend actually actively tried to stop me from doing my research, volunteering,…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/18 07:53 AM
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To put is succinctly, women are not attracted to their male counterpart and thus women are fighting for a much smaller pool of men at every level of SMV. Except studies show the opposite is actually happening. 1) The ratio of messages received by top women versus bottom women is much greater than the ratio of messages received by top men verses bottom men. 2) Men agree more on which women are attractive than women agree on which men are attractive, resulting in men having more competition for fe…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/18 06:35 AM
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So the 6/10 woman 'settles' for a 6/10 man, not a 4/10 man as you'd expect. I disagree. You really have no proof of this, and I don't have proof of the opposite, but since you give your random opinion, I'll give mine. I think this "theory" is bullshit incel propaganda. All the men around me have had no trouble finding women who look better than them and who make more money than them (the money thing might be rare in general, but it's not rare among liberal educated feminist UMC circles). These w…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/18 06:30 AM
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90% of crimes are committed by men, but you choose "divorce" as the biggest offense.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/18 07:17 AM
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You're right, women are superior at least in that second aspect.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/18 07:15 AM
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Is this r/relationshipadvice? Do what you want. To answer your question as to why your female friends advise you to stay alone, I think it's because for women it's more resourcing to stay alone before you start serving another man, but for men it seems like it's better to have someone fuck you and take care of you while you wait for a serious girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/18 05:26 AM
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There's no sexuality involved in being a prostitute lol. You just need a hole. What a male thing to say "I can't have sex with men for money because I'm not sexuality attracted to them". I guarantee you a lesbian can lay down and take the dick for money, why can't you?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/18 06:51 PM
1

That's sexist. What about men who don't want careers?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/18 11:08 AM
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You can go get fucked by men for money.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/18 09:24 AM
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Why do you assume you'd be paid to fuck a relatively young relatively hot woman? Go get fucked by men if you want money. Don't serve me the "I'm not gay" bullshit, it's a job, you're not supposed to be fucking people you'd pay to fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/18 09:21 AM
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Why compare these two different jobs? You know there are women who work menial jobs at $15/h. In fact, last time I checked, there were more women working on minimum wage than men. This idea that all women get money from having a vagina is dumb. If the escort lifestyle appeals to you so much, why don't you become a male prostitute?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/18 08:18 AM
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The "why not" i think of is that it puts unfair pressure on the man and breeds more behavioral problems for daughters, but the latter can be avoided.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/18 01:02 AM
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She'd be even sadder with a man. Also, the feminists were right, you can have it all, plenty do, just because you personally fail doesn't mean women can't have it all. They definitely can, and I know many who do. If you can't, that's on you. Don't start blaming the world. I think this is an example of a person who fails, and rather than admitting they failed where others succeed, they prefer to come up with some catarthic theory claiming it was impossible to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/18 12:27 AM
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My mom was a surgeon working surgeon hours and she still had 3 kids and did all the mom things. Stay-at-home moms do just the mom part. It doesn't add up. I never felt life my mom wasn't there enough. I would have rather had less time with but higher quality than simply more time with her. The time was already plenty.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/18 12:22 AM
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It's a shitty idea regardless to hitch your life to someone else. Why do that and pray you've got a "good man" when you can be a good woman yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/18 12:16 AM
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even if you're not a controlling shrewy cunt things could go very wrong if the man is a loser
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/18 06:29 AM
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When you call a man a bitch, you are using the fact that being a woman is an insult, same for calling a man a pussy, both a gendered slurs relying on misogyny. Skank and sluts are sexist too because it implies there's nothing wrong with being a man who loves sex, but being a woman who loves sex is wrong. Virgin is an actual factual word for the dictionary that can describe a person of either gender who hasn't had sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/18 10:09 PM
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Pumping and dumping does sound like a myth to me. I see women pump and dump men perhaps more than the opposite here. All the men I've dated were insistent on commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/18 07:58 AM
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Men typically sacrifice money, time, and flexibility. What the fuck? Women sacrifice time and flexibility. How presumptuous to say that the time a couple spends together is time spent by the man but not by the woman. So that only leave money, and money is not always spent by the man. Where I leave, men and women pay equally when they date, split bills, and marry their salary match. I'd say a woman's time is more valuable because her eggs die sooner.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/18 07:56 AM
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I don't call other women skanks or sluts. It's a gender slur in my eyes. It means it's a rude word meant to demean women. Slut, skank, bitch, cunt all carry the idea that it's worse to be a woman or that some behaviors are worse when exhibited by women. It's sexist. The word "virgin" in itself is a neutral word.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/18 07:37 AM
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If we're talking about someone who has nothing then if the guy didn't go out of his way to marry a woman with nothing who would be economically dependent on him then the woman would have been alone and working and so she wouldn't have had nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/18 06:15 AM
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Yeah sorry, that flew over my head. I don't know why they stay then.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/18 06:14 AM
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there is the chance to pay for a surrogate mother in the same way you pay for sex. the price of these things supports my point about which one is more valuable
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/18 02:30 AM
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because they are stuck, not because they love the man why do all men want to retain women through economical subordination? it's disgusting AMALT by the way, my comment was in reference to the fact that red pillers regularly complain about divorce-rape, but in a situation where the man divorce-rapes the woman, they still blame the woman i guess that flew over your head
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/18 02:25 AM
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By that same logic the woman is getting less out of the "improved" man because he's more of a douche and slower to trust women. Honestly the most you can get from a woman is her being willing to produce your children. You can find a hoe any time, but you can hardly find a child, especially a biological child. I'd say second to that is a woman willing to grow old with you and take care of you. Youth and crazy sex can be purchased for a couple of hundred dollars.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/18 02:21 AM
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yeah i think sluts are caring and selfless what's the thing that can make a man the most happy, raise his self-esteem the most, give him the most validation, and doesn't take forever? sex sluts are literal angels to men i have no idea why men complain about them
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/18 02:14 AM
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Okay so when women divorce men who make more money than them, women are selfish gold-diggers, and when women divorce men who make less money than them, women are selfish gold-diggers Makes sense /s Edit since it wasn't clear enough let me phrase it this way: woman divorce-rapes a man = women are gold-diggers man divorce-rapes a woman = women are gold-diggers just male "logic"
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/18 02:09 AM
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I guess it depends on your crowd, but you can also go through life without ever meeting one of these girls who use guys to get free meals.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/18 07:24 PM
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Your friends are bad people.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/18 07:18 PM
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Partly because of the minority of women who do enjoy sexualizing men and partly because of the appeal of a role reversal. It seems edgy, progressive, naughty, perhaps bold and empowering, perhaps plain silly and riotous to see the slave master become the slave. In a way if women want to prove they are equal to men in every way, someone has to go see those shows. Another way would be to just stop objectifying women, but we're still waiting on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/18 06:59 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/18 08:34 PM
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Those are stupid women who's sex is their only value, I don't know how you feel sorry for people who have nothing else to offer That's the point yes. She said "low value women are forced into sluttery in order to attract men" and you point out that they have no value beyond offering sex? That's exactly the point she was making.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/18 06:28 PM
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Well if you're one of 6 men setting up a date with the same woman, clearly it's because all men go for the same women. Go for the other ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/18 04:30 PM
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It's not settling if she doesn't care about looks. She's not a man who watches porn all day and wants to get his duck hard. There are plenty of reasons to love someone that have nothing to do with looks or your utilitarian reasons. It blows my mind that you immediately jump to utilitarian reasons if the looks aren't there.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/18 11:47 AM
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Déjà vu. Wasn't there a feature like that 10 years ago already?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/18 03:30 PM
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That's bullshit you know. You have one man telling the tale of the time he showed weakness and his girlfriend went cold and dropped him. I can relegate tales of how my boyfriends also went cold and dropped me after the first time I showed weakness (ex: opened up about being depressed and having been to a doctor or crying in front of them because of being tired and depressed). That's just human. That story has happened to me countless times: I didn't show that anything was wrong, I kept being the…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/18 01:01 PM
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It does add up. You just have annoyingly rigid preconceived ideas. Why don't you go trolling someone else? I did more than you could do while being more depressed than you, so shut up about it. I did succeed in medical school with minimum effort and attendance, but guess what, you reach the point where it's hospital work and there's no more minimal attendance there, you need to actually show up every morning and I couldn't leave my apartment by that point, so I told them I was taking a medical l…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/18 12:28 PM
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I know many women who married a man who makes less. How is that an economic agreement?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/18 04:55 AM
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I never had any problem being sexually objectified unless it was specifically a guy trying to grope me or rape me, but in my every life I registered as a non-sexual being, probably because I'm not hourglass and I don't flirt. Definitely never had men looking at me or making advances on me. It was fine by me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/18 04:45 AM
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I don't think seeing a prostitute counts as a sexual affair, but even if it did, seeing a therapist isn't a paid romantic relationship, keyword romantic.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/18 04:38 AM
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Depression wouldn't stop you if it was really that easy. It didn't. I was diagnosed with severe major depression years ago and despite the depression I went to university, graduated top of my class in my physics degree, got into med school and went to med school for a few years, among other things. I did a bunch of things while depressed for many years and every minute of it was agonizing, but I kept going. I didn't fail any classes, I was just deeply deeply suicidal and finally stopped going to…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/18 04:03 AM
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Low-achieving but hot right? No, I dated unattractive men. Like 5'5 chubby guy. They just played video games, smoked weed, were socially awkward and unemployed. They ate fast food or microwaved food. You sound like a Type A Not everyone has to fit in a box. Yes, I was high-achieving, winning in everything I did and involved in a large amount of activities, but I had the personality of an underachiever. Like I said, I never studied, didn't go to class, never read the book, never asked questions, …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/18 07:10 PM
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My dog gravitates towards men and I don't know if it's because I'm so un-alpha, give off restless neurotic vibes, or simply don't produce the same kind of body heat as a man does.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/18 03:18 PM
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Can't it be a Shrodinger's cat situation until he starts talking and she gets to know him better?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/18 03:16 PM
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I'm just saying that my parents don't seem to make that much money even though my mom is an ophthalmologist, which is the second highest paid specialty in my province. Canadian doctors don't seem as rich as American doctors.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/18 03:15 PM
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Well right now I am a deadbeat good-for-nothing plague of a human being so I'm not trying to impose my presence on any unsuspecting man. Before that I guess I just didn't know about the "value" of people and I didn't know I potentially had some value for being smart and fit. I just knew I was a rather ugly woman who didn't elicit romantic feelings in men and I went from there and dated the first guy who was interested. I kind of hung out with the low-achieving men and stayed away from the Chads …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/18 03:08 PM
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Yeah I thought that it didn't really disprove it too. But like I explain elsewhere, I think if we said a man can become interesting once he starts talking, the men would just call it beta buxing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/18 02:48 PM
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I mean one difference is the sex vibe between a heterosexual man and woman. Like I think if a woman were to say "he doesn't see me as a woman" it would mean sex. But I don't think you mean sex when you say "as a man". Is it like a dog whisperer thing where the man just inspires respect by his calm alpha energy? But what is it that dogs respond to? Deep voice? Pheromones? Posture?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/18 02:45 PM
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Mmm no. The average Canadian doctor makes 339,000 CAD. That's 264,000 USD. That's the gross pay they receive. The net pay before taxes is 25% less than that. 1) I'm pretty sure you looked up the average specialist in Ontatrio. Add general practitioners and it goes down. Add other provinces and it goes down a bit more. I think a Canadian doctor who makes over 400,000 USD would be pretty rare. 2) In my province doctors can't practice private medicine on the side. If you practice in the public heal…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/18 02:36 PM
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Mmm well. I was a regional swimming champion and my team alone had maybe 50 swimmers in my age group so if you add in all the other teams it makes hundreds of people, and that's just the people who swam, so if you include the entire population, that would make me maybe more than top 1%. Of course there might have been fitter people who didn't swim, but there would also be less fit people who didn't swim, so overall I think the 1% would stand. Then in fitness tests (either the running tests or th…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/18 02:07 PM
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It really depends what respect means. I respect other people, I respect the cashier at the grocery store and my neighbors, so why wouldn't I respect the guy I'm dating. But I feel like this post is alluding to a different form of respect. Is it like deference? Or like respecting the man because he's better than you? There was a post about why men don't respect women and it was speaking in terms of men being better and stronger than women. If that's what you mean by respect, then it would only be…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/18 01:16 PM
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What does "as a man" mean? What do men do that women cannot do?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/18 01:11 PM
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Yeah I was thinking about that too. I think it's possible, but I think that would be a more controversial stance, ie. men would reply that that's beta buxing or comfort buxing or personality buxing. Men seem to want a woman who has a raw desire for their physicality before anything else. I don't understand it because as a woman I'd be flattered if a man told me he does not find me physically attractive but really likes my company.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/18 12:31 PM
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It was everything. How else do you think I calculate? Who says "I was top 1% on my history exam that one time". No, it was everything, as in my average was 3 standard deviations above average, and my best subjects were math and physics.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/18 12:26 PM
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Women aren't men and they don't work on smash or pass. A guy can look nice while he says hi and introduces himself but everything he says after those first 15 seconds could be a turn off.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/18 08:55 AM
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Have you ever met men that meet the 1% criteria? No. I know a lot of doctors, but most are women, and I don't think many Canadian doctors make 387,000 USD anyway. The other men I've known make even less than doctors so I've never met a rich man. I assume they would have to be entrepreneurs, business men and finance workers who evolve in elite circles. I'm not going to address height or penis size because... you ask if it's realistic for a man to be in the top 1%... but height and penis size are …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/18 08:43 AM
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Haha thanks. Pretty sad that they had to lower the standards! Health is a good reason to want a fit partner maybe, so they can live longer and age gracefully, but I don't care that much about the physical aspect.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/18 08:41 PM
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Yes I went to the race with male friends and they ran it slower, even the guy who was supposedly fit and was a kinesiologist working in fitness. They were a bit embarrassed.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/18 08:27 PM
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I'm not hot I'm kinda masculine like a boxy head and jaw and my shoulders being much wider than my hips. Probably helps with the running if my rib cage and lungs are manly. I'm not a man though I menstruate normally so my hormones must be normal for a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/18 08:09 PM
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No. I am always very in shape. One time I ran a 10k without preparation and ran it in 42:30. I'm a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/18 07:53 PM
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Same I hung out with nerds and nerds were doing the same things as Chads and Stacies only with less beautiful people and lamer.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/18 01:49 AM
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15% seems high, but maybe they dated? I think women sleep with the men who ask them out, and maybe bosses ask out their female employees since it's like a buffet of lower status females. In general I think men can easily ask out lower status females and they will say yes. When it's a boss they should say no though.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/18 01:42 AM
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I don't think women hold the power. I think men are pretty good at collectively sticking together and saying they will only date with sex from the start. I literally don't know any guy where I live who dates without sex. If women want to date and hope to one day find love and a family, they have to do it. I mean it seems like with gender equality expectations have just become more advantageous for men both ways: men are no longer expected to pay for dates and to plan things, women are expected t…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 02:29 PM
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It doesn't say that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 02:27 PM
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It's the dating culture. It's how people date nowadays. In surveys both men and women report hoping hookups will lead to something more. But not all relationships work out. It's kind of the barrier to entry. If you want to hang with a guy as more than friends and see where things go, you have to sleep with him. Well you don't have to, but it's the normal way things go. It's definitely not good for women and I think men pulled a great heist by transforming the dating culture that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 12:19 PM
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Face > body, but you should be fit for your own health.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 07:58 AM
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I don't assume anything. I said she is lazier than a person who plans on working. Mom and passion? People do that while working too. She is lazier than those people. That's all I'm saying here. I call her greedy because she wants a husband who makes $90k and she plans on making $0. That has nothing to do with her savings. It has to do with the fact that she demands her husband makes $90k more than what she plans on making. Stop trying to turn this into something else. And also, no, for me femini…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 07:52 AM
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No, I'm saying stay-at-home mothers are lazier than people who work, and they are putting the burden of earning of their husbands and they are demanding free stuff just for existing, ie. they are gold diggers. I accused that girl of being particularly greedy because she wants a husband who makes 90k and she wants to make 0k herself.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 04:49 AM
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What? No I did not flip flop, I think you're just not following. And now you're trying to invoke magical money? According to a 2017 GOBankingRates survey, more than half of Americans (57 percent) have less than $1,000 in their savings accounts. For households between 50 and 55, the median retirement account balance is just $8,000. For those between 56 and 61, it's $17,000 -- not much better. Women giving birth aren't that old.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 04:26 AM
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Well half should come out of her own salary so he should only pay her half of what daycare costs.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 04:19 AM
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I consider it unfair to their husbands. If the husband loves her enough to do that for her, they should go for it, sure, lucky ladies. I just don't think they should try to argue they are anything but kept unemployed women. It's kind of like if you decided to not written and live off your parents for ever or some other wealthy relative, but they are doing it with their husbands. It's certainly gun. But it's not work and they are not doing their part. Fending off for yourself is harder than havin…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 03:48 AM
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Well yeah if both are unemployed it's fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 01:09 AM
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Men don't respect men for being men. Men have to earn respect. Except they do. Men give each other more respect simply for being men. Example in a STEM class the men think the other men are smarter than they really are and they give each other a reputation. Men will identify the best student as one of the male students even if it is in reality a female student. Men don't get respect for existing. Men absolutely get respect for existing. At equal competency or intelligence, they are considered mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 12:53 AM
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It would only make a marginal difference at the beginning. Soon enough the couple will learn sex with each other and that will be all that matters. The longer it lasts, the more similar their experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/18 06:01 PM
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Well no one is independent then because we can't build all the stuff we use. Humans have specialized labor and money to trade.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/18 05:59 PM
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You're needed in jobs, why is that not good enough?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/18 05:21 PM
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Can they fix the sink, their car, do woodwork, build stuff? What does that have to do with anything? If she makes enough money she can pay people to do that stuff. There are a lot of men who don't do woodwork or build stuff and no one would accuse them of not being independent.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/18 05:18 PM
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rightly so cause they are doing half their jobs
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/18 04:42 PM
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You can call it true all day long but that won't stop it being sexist. I don't see why you have a problem with the word sexist applying to a context where it fits.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/18 02:34 PM
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Actually I was wrong. I had the "likes video games" filter on. So I'd correct my observation to: US women who like video games are abnormally fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/18 02:26 PM
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Mmm. It was an entire quote that I called sexist. It was saying that doctor is status for men and cheerleader is status for women. I don't don't why you're trying to cut down the quote further.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/18 10:37 AM
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Well you ask how is it sexist. It is sexist. Like it or not the word applies.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/18 09:44 AM
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I'm not totally convinced that we are born a certain way and that our attraction to one sex or both is hiding in our genes. Saying "I'm born this way, it's not a choice" was important to champion the acceptance of homosexuality in society, but once we reach the point where it's fully accepted, could we go back to saying that part of attraction is a choice, and that all choices are equal? Maybe men have more of a hard barometer because their erections are sort of binary and so they'd be to say me…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/18 09:43 AM
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Well in the quote I pointed out, he says a woman with a high status is not a doctor, but a cheerleader.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/18 09:32 AM
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Glad you asked, I thought of saying startup CEO since those tend to be men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/18 09:30 AM
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I'm not talking about male status like being a rich doctor, but like if she's the queen bee, the top cheerleader, appeared in an ad or music video, is the new girl, etc. That's sexist. Most med students are female, so can we stop using "doctor" as the example of male status?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/18 09:08 AM
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I'm not talking about male status like being a rich doctor, but like if she's the queen bee, the top cheerleader, appeared in an ad or music video, is the new girl, etc. That's sexist. Most med students are female, so can we stop using "doctor" as the example of male status?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/18 08:26 AM
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Self-improvement is only if you're not satisfied with the people you can currently attract. Everyone can attract someone, it just might not be who you want. If you can't find anyone at all, it's not a problem with you, it's a problem with your location and search strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/18 08:24 AM
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No they don't. Studies show men largely agree on who's attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/18 07:11 AM
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Some small cities in the US have abnormally fat white women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/18 07:09 AM
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Yeah it depends in what circle you evolve. I've never been around fat people nor very poor people and therefore I wasn't considered attractive even if I was a fit young woman without acne.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/18 07:06 AM
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In a big city there are a lot of young attractive people.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/18 07:04 AM
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Well you know I was in med school, and maybe I'll kill myself, maybe I'll return, maybe I'll find another job, but making 40k might be feasible one way or another. In any case, I'm not the one demanding a husband who earns 90k. She is. So your accusation here makes no sense. I literally dated unemployed dudes and would expect my husband to make $0 if I ever married.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/18 06:23 AM
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I'm very aware that it's not me they are doing those things for. I had boyfriends and they couldn't even get a job or stop smoking weed for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/18 02:13 AM
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I didn't use name-calling. I was polite. I said "lazier than people who work". It's a comparison. She's not even a stay-at-home mom, so how is my criticism specifically directed at her? Also, since when can't we talk about gold diggers on a pillosphere sub? Aren't we here to discuss relationships, sexual markets and exchanges?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/18 02:03 AM
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You don't need to be unemployed to do that. It's just lazy to want to be unemployed while your husband is employed. What do you bring to the table: reproductive capacities, sex, cooking, cleaning. Women who work bring the same things to the table. It's ridiculous to say you deserve to get to free-load off a man because you bring those same things that all the other working women bring.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/18 01:49 AM
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What?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/18 01:46 AM
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Well just don't try to pass it off as some noble thing. You are lazier than the people who work and you are putting that burden on your husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/18 01:06 AM
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Then you just have to make $40,000.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/18 12:46 AM
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Not important. A guy who doesn't have time to hit the gym because he's too busy working is a lot more attractive than any gym bro. But that's coming from a woman who dated broke unambitious out-of-shape sedentary guys, so clearly, neither is a requirement. My actions speak louder.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/18 12:43 AM
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I'm on the other end of the spectrum where I can't make friends because people don't approach me. Of course I can approach people myself or stick to the people I know and that has worked for me and I had large amounts of friends in the past, but if I'm alone in a new environment, be it school, work or a party, I never get approached, by men or women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/18 12:30 AM
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Never? I never had a job where my looks were important to get sales and I don't flirt to get guys to do stuff for me. Even when I dated the guys didn't pay for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/18 12:16 AM
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How could your wardrobe possibly affect the result of a written exam though
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/18 12:11 AM
2

Dude. A father takes his kid to the park one time and everyone fawns and flips showering him in compliments and people will borderline choke up with emotion because he's being such a good father. Meanwhile women do everything even if they earn more and work longer hours than the dad and that's just expected. Yeah they get one day on mother's day where they get a card, what a blasphemy. Being a father is literally just fathering children and doing nothing thereafter. There's a ton of automatic re…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/18 12:02 AM
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My father was a man with a job and kids. He would have been revered and respected in any kind of circle in society. My mother had a job with longer hours and a higher salary, but she had to do everything with the kids and the house anyway. That's just expected.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/18 11:49 PM
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Beautiful women inspire more love than ugly women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/18 02:31 AM
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:O You are a pro. :O
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/18 02:28 AM
1

1) I lost my ability to live, don't go out, don't live my life anymore. 2) It's my fault or my brain's fault, but my brain is me too. 3) No.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/18 01:54 AM
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I would be happy if I had done what I was supposed to be doing... get a graduate diploma quickly, live in cool places pursuing cool opportunities... have money and freedom. I wasted time on boyfriends instead. They were a chore, not a source of happiness. They were a chore I felt like I could take on when I had a good life going on and a lot to offer. I like it when I can bring others happiness. But they were definitely a useless sinkhole if I look at it objectively. They left me in a better pla…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/18 06:27 AM
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That's just the way I was. I encouraged my boyfriend to sleep with other girls. I wouldn't have been angry if he met someone else and left me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/18 06:23 AM
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Yes. and it has nothing to do with the man's attractiveness People saying women only react to the sexiest men are projecting because men actually need to look at a hot woman to get an erection and to masturbate. Women don't do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/18 05:21 AM
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I don't do that. I don't expect things from people. Especially not boyfriends. Think about what you can offer to other people rather than what they can offer to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/18 05:16 AM
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I am a woman and an extremely attractive man would have to do the same thing as a less attractive man, which is be someone I've known for a while. I don't want to get with someone and then find out I don't like the way they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/18 02:22 AM
1

It is normal in the West. Where do you live? Bible belt?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/18 12:22 AM
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Look, the girls doesn't have to sleep with all of her friends, the guy doesn't have to be her friend, if they keep hanging out it's because the guy likes it or like her a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 08:14 PM
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I agree. Some guys are better than others, and maybe she makes you wait longer than she would make a better guy wait, but you'll be getting with a better girl than the girl who wouldn't make you wait. You get to choose where you want to stand. Choose a worse girl and you'll be the best guy she can hope to be with, choose a better girl and you won't be the best guy she can get. You have to choose how hard or how little you want to work for what kind of girl you want to be with. I think some guys …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 08:04 PM
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I agree. Some guys are better than others, and maybe she makes you wait longer than she would make a better guy wait, but you'll be getting with a better girl than the girl who wouldn't make you wait. You get to choose where you want to stand. Choose a worse girl and you'll be the best guy she can hope to be with, choose a better girl and you won't be the best guy she can get. You have to choose how hard or how little you want to work for what kind of girl you want to be with. I think some guys …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 10:42 AM
6

What if the other guy was just better than you?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 10:30 AM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 09:33 AM
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It's rare enough that it happened once in decades for him. You're not being logical here. These women exist, but what are the chances he'll meet one? The chances are probably 1 time every 10 years. If he dates me 2 years he lost no opportunity. And like I said we had an open relationship on his side only so he doubly lost no opportunity.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 07:36 AM
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Studies show that women do most of the housework and child-rearing even when they earn more than their husband. Studies show that men in STEM are considered by their peers and by themselves to have better grades for the same grades. Everything I described is the standard state of society.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 07:36 AM
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It's not an extremely difficult field to get into for upper middle class college educated smart families. But I'm not following what you're saying. The family I described wasn't her environment growing up. She became a surgeon before creating her/my family. Also, it's not a special environment, that's just the way society is. It's literally the case that in every family women do everything and men just go to work. It just happened that in mine my mom worked longer hours and made more money than …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 07:28 AM
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That's like one every 5 years though so if he dated me less than 5 years... Anyway your argument doesn't hold because I was actively encouraging him to sleep with other girls and he couldn't find one. The proof is there
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 07:25 AM
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You don't necessarily lose. Lots of women give it up for free to be nice. I was literally raised with the saying "a nice girl is a girl who fucks". And there's also the belief that a nice girl is a girl who isn't shallow, doesn't care about looks, money or skills, and doesn't make any demands. So you put two and two together.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 04:39 AM
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No, it's just that she was like the female side of the family and I didn't want to be associated with it. Her side was like buying us clothes, insisting we turn off the lights and clean up after ourselves, telling us what to eat, gossiping, saying stuff like "that's too complicated for me", etc. Meanwhile the male side of my family was like being reckless, having fun, thinking themselves very smart, mocking others, talking over other people, etc. It was easy for me to perceive my brothers as bei…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 01:36 AM
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You should have met my unemployed stoner boyfriend who played a computer game from the 2000s all day every day and hated going to social events. He had no luck getting women and his only friends were his weed providers, all male. He hooked up with a girl in college, but she ended up dating some other guy. He actually went clubbing but never hit it off with any girl. When I was dating him, I was encouraging him to go out with his friends and sleep with other girls, but he never managed it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 01:26 AM
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Lol. I have a dad and two older brothers. They were always extremely mean, they beat me up, made fun of me to make me cry and to laugh at watching me cry, they controlled the computers and everything else in the house. They were rude to my mom, to me, to their girlfriends, but somehow it's considered cute when guys are rude. My mom has always been the main breadwinner. She made/makes twice what my dad makes. Now my brothers are both married to women who make twice what they make. I suspect that …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/18 11:53 PM
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I don't know any 25 year old man who actively looks for 20 year old women. Most normal people seem to want a woman their age. The average age gap in marriage in 2 years, but you can imagine that average is stretched by the old men marrying younger women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/18 11:03 PM
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I think my expiration date was when I was dating my last boyfriend. That's why I did everything he said, like travel to his country often and stop seeing my friends and drop my activities, because he was always threatening to break up with me and I really didn't want to have another relationship after that. I just wanted to stay with one person my whole life.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/18 08:19 PM
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I can't aim higher. Women have an expiration date.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/18 07:34 PM
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Not true. I dated guys with deficits all spheres. I gave them all the sex, they never did anything nice for me. Stop spreading your fabricated world view.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/18 07:33 PM
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I don't see Christian Grey as desiring Anastasia. He could desire her without being into the cheesy bdsm roles. What he wants to do to her seems to stem from being abused by an older woman when he was a teenager. Or I don't know, maybe it's his existential angst and need for control. But it's not his desire for Anastasia. I haven't read the book, but I just saw the movie was on Netflix and watched the beginning. I couldn't get through, but that was my take on it. Also Christian is actually a whi…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/18 10:10 AM
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Well yeah, they've dumped me, they are long gone. Part of stopping to care about them is looking at it objectively and realizing they weren't that great and I'm okay without them. It's just a normal thing to do, I think, to process breakups and move on. There's no point missing people who are gone and they all live their own happy lives now.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/18 10:02 AM
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I didn't date them out of pity. I dated them because I don't judge people and I accepted them the way they were. They were interested in me and I didn't see any reason not to like them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/18 09:59 AM
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No, if I have nothing to offer to someone, I don't date them. When I did date those guys I was either the top student in the physics program or a med student, and I was also extremely fit and involved in a bunch of activities. I could offer them love and sex and a good family and the promise of providing for them. I could also bring them on trips and make them laugh and inspire them to adopt a better lifestyle. I had plenty to offer. I wasn't desperate, I was just selfless. I dated guys who were…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/18 09:44 AM
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Just love at leaving out the parenthesis from my quote to make me sound more evil.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/18 08:54 AM
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You enjoy the visual spectacle and experience. Women do not. Same reason men watch porn, except you get to actually be there instead of seeing through a screen.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/18 07:50 AM
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Nice try. Tell that to the millions of men read to have sex at the tap of an app.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/18 07:47 AM
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you seem to be saying that women don't enjoy sex itself That's the point of the OP, yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/18 07:46 AM
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No, you don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/18 07:14 AM
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Maybe you, but not the men I date. The men I date can't get other girls and don't spend any money on me.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/18 06:40 AM
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Only if that man is able to acquire sex with other women. Also, he couldn't pay for more than a couple of children. If that woman turns out to be infertile, he can dump her and start over.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/18 06:00 AM
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I don't care if you like it when your girlfriend orgasms. Must her orgasms really be about making you feel good too? We already know you like sex. The question is does your girlfriend like it when she orgasms? Does she like sex? Don't bother though, she will lie and say yes. I am convinced all women pretend to like sex because they want men to think they are great and men like women who like sex. You'll never know the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/18 02:34 AM
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I meant "mind", but you got it anyway. Well, yes, that is my point, it's not just Chad who fits the OP, it's all men who want sex, which we might as well say is all men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/18 02:31 AM
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By that logic beautiful rich women also make cute babies and have a lot of money to provide for said babies. Don't act like women don't work.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/18 02:30 AM
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Okay here's where you're wrong: young women are more successful professionally than young men. Women who remain single and don't have kids are more successful professionally than women do get in a relationship and have kids. Therefore your caricature of these pathetic 30-year-old women who have nothing to offer contrasted with their professionally-successful male doctors is plain wrong. If anything, it would be a slew of professionally successful older women unable to nab a half-decent man becau…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/18 01:47 AM
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Booohhh. Most young doctors are women. Lots of single women in their 30s-40s are beautiful doctors who make six figures and who are athletic and toned. Get out with your misogyny. Double-booohhh. I'm a woman and I got asked out once in decades. The "where are all the good men gone" women are women who got dumped on the eve of their 30th birthday.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/18 01:33 AM
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It's not anyone's "fault". It's that an ugly man can score points in other areas, an ugly woman not really.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/18 01:25 AM
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Here's a novel idea: don't try having sex with a woman unless you're willing to commit to her before you risk pregnancy and are willing to stick around for a while, marry her and raise her kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/18 01:21 AM
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She describes sex. It's the same with any man. A man who would "different" would be a man who doesn't like waiting for sex until they are ready to have kids. Omegas and incels are the first ones to say that sex is their number one requirement in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/18 01:15 AM
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Think about it: when a couple becomes exclusive, the woman gives up a lot more sexual opportunities than the man. This is just another ploy by men to control women and you try to pass it off as if it had some value.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/18 01:13 AM
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Jammerly you are like the purest pinkpill phoenix rising from the dumpster fire that is purplepill debate. I disagree about the part where men should pay with money, but I agree that men are ungrateful. I think money should be spent equally, however men should stop being so demanding and entitled about sex. Sex is humiliating for women and validating for men. Men should stop saying that women are privileged to be able to get sex whenever they want. I think the real privilege is that men are neve…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/18 01:06 AM
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It's absolutely possible to be locally invisible as a woman. All throughout high school, no guy ever showed any interest in me, no guy ever invited me to a dance, no guy asked me out, no guy ever told their friends they had a crush on me, etc. And I could say the same of at least 20 of my female high school friends. It wasn't because I wasn't around people. I was in two varsity sport teams, I had a large group of friends, I never sat alone at lunch, I was invited to parties, I was in the outdoor…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/18 12:45 AM
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Bullshit. Female med students are more unsuccessful in dating than male med students. These guys are never single because they are swimming in pussy and because women like a good personality. Female med students and female doctors, on the other hand, always date down, unless it's Mark Zuckerberg's wife. And stop acting like medicine is a man's profession. It's a woman's profession now. They already have to make the entrance interviews easier for men because they can't get in. Also, analysis show…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/18 11:56 PM
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A woman who is funny, smart and rich, if she's truly terrible-looking, will have to date really terrible-looking men who will be neither funny, smart nor rich. Studies show that women attribute more importance to status, money, personality, profile content, etc. so ugly men can compensate with these aspects. Men almost entirely solely care about looks. I think a simplification is that a man is rated on the average of all of his qualities, whereas a woman is rated solely on her looks. So an ugly …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/18 11:50 PM
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I have been rejected in the pass and usually they became my best friends with no awkwardness. I used to like getting friendzoned more than anything else because friendships are fun and easy and I don't require sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/18 08:38 AM
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What are you saying dude? Your own definition contradicts you: or is strongly prejudiced against women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/18 08:04 PM
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No, the blue pill is just those who think the red pill is bullshit. We have a problem with your ideas.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/18 08:03 PM
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Is it because female sexuality is inherently valuable in ways that male sexuality is not, and being mistaken for a prostitute is a sign that you give your sexuality away for low cost (something men don't have to worry about or be offended by)? No. It's because all women can be prostitutes, and the only thing that stops us from selling ourselves is our moral principles. Men are sort of the opposite. When you say: I would probably be flattered that someone thought I was attractive enough that peop…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/18 11:13 PM
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Well I don't know. I'm attracted to shy socially awkward guys and I don't go for sex conquerors, but this happens anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/18 11:47 PM
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I wouldn't have asked him to bring anything. But since she did, it was rude that he didn't. I still would have said "don't worry about it come in I have something else to drink". But since she really wanted him to bring wine, perhaps she could have said "can you run to the store and grab some wine because I don't have any".
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/18 11:40 PM
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Maybe she's old. At some point old people start making elaborate dishes and don't order pizza on dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/18 11:37 PM
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Well childbirth is a better reason. You sound like a great couple! I'm really happy for you two having two wonderful children! Congratulations! And best of luck Tuesday!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/18 11:06 PM
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I rather pick the 4/10 and keep improving myself in order to know with some degree of certainty that I am the best she got and the best she will ever get Well that works. I'm just surprised.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/18 10:39 PM
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People can actually grow up. It's very possible that when she was younger she was too naive to say no and then she grew up and understood what she wants. What you're saying only works if she's doing both at the same time. If she is doing both at the same time... so what? You're obviously not as attractive as Chad and that's not influenced by her sexual behavior, it's a fact of life. The question is do you want to punch above your weight to get with a hot girl who can get with hot guys, or do you…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/18 07:50 PM
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Lol. What's wrong about a stranger on a dating website deciding not to pick you and then going back on that same dating website in the hopes of finding a better man? Is she suppose to swear off that dating site forever since she didn't give you a chance? OP asked for advice on how to attract men, and you just give her instructions on how to become your emotional prisoner, torpedoing her chances of meeting men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/18 07:42 PM
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Learning that supposedly the world is full of great men who can't find a girlfriend, as reddit claims, makes me more hopeful for the future, but things definitely weren't like that when I was from 0 to 25. Just because I was a bit ugly meant I was rejected by guys left and right, no matter how good friends I was with them. And I knew many smart nice beautiful girls in medicine who were stuck dating less than desirable men or who couldn't find anyone at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/18 05:07 PM
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Well yeah the last guy I dated had these red flags, but I was unable to find a boyfriend elsewhere. Guys didn't like me. Back then I was fit, successful, positive, I loved so many things about the world and life, but guys didn't want to date me. I could only find him, and he was lazy, unsuccessful, negative, and he hated everything I liked. I traveled the world volunteering in free clinics and he just hated poor people and doing good deeds. Then I was in medical school and he was an unemployed s…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/18 04:45 PM
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Well i think it's me not being able to kick a guy out. I couldn't stop because they would be mad and give me the silent treatment. And it's not because of the way I said it. I always said things nicely, smiling, giving them lots of compliments, it doesn't matter. With my last boyfriend i could literally have sex with him multiple times a day for ten days straight and then one time refuse by saying "oh I'm sorry i just got dressed and I'd really like to get my run done before dinner but how about…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/18 04:12 PM
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I mean... pain is usually communicated in the moment... Like "ouch it hurts ouch it really hurts sorry ouch ouch ouch nope still hurts ouch". 0% of the men I've slept with have been deterred in anyway by such pain. They literally do not care and push through to get their dicks in. It's not about orgasms, who gives a shit about those, pain is there right at the start.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/18 03:42 PM
5

Ok you're right then.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/18 03:39 PM
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I dated men who got plenty of sex and complained that they didn't get enough attention. Some men just want both (sex and attention). If you ask me men have seriously slanted things in their favor as we went from "you should sleep with your husband" to "you should sleep with any guy who gives you a modicum of attention otherwise you're literally robbing him off what's fair". Also, in my experience, most men do not give a flying fuck if the sex is painful. They just push through to get their dicks…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/18 03:21 PM
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I agree it's a win for men and a loss for women. Luckily for men, women are generally humble creatures who like to help others win.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/18 03:09 PM
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The last time the "women get shorter sentences" argument happened, I pulled out studies comparing male and female criminals. Female criminals were more likely to be first time offenders, more likely to be mentally ill, more likely to come from a history of abuse, more likely to have children under their care, etc. Like it or not, these things all come into play during the trials. Moreover, female criminals are less likely to recidivate, so in so far as the goal is to prevent crimes, they don't s…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/18 02:45 PM
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Well I do agree that men who push for sex get more sex. I don't agree that it's what women prefer. Coerce a woman in a way that she runs out of ways to say no and you will get sex, sure. But red pill tries to rationalize that it's what women like and that a woman who says no secretly means yes. That's bullshit. What works doesn't equal what women like. There are just women who are passive people-pleaser conflict-avoider who feel obligated to give to other people and put other people's feelings f…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/18 04:08 PM
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No. Once again you're wrong. I've never made a guy pay for my company. (I'm a feminist.) I'm just pointing out that clearly men want the companionship of women more than women want the companionship of men because men are willing to pay for it and men have a hard time finding a date online. Nothing to do with me, just the reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/18 05:35 PM
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Why do you think a woman can get free drinks? Why do you think prostitutes, even ugly ones, can get paid for sex? Why do you think a woman, no matter her age, can find sex any time? Because men enjoy the company of women more than vice versa. I know I'm being unpleasant, but isn't there some truth to it?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/18 02:40 PM
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Modern bitch culture tells women that every interaction has to be 100% positive for her or she should disengage It's the very opposite and you know it. It's men who are online making entire blogs and movements on how to make every interaction 100% positive for them of they should disengaged. Men are the entitled, selfish, self-interested gender and whenever you start saying that women are like that it is pure projection. Men already benefit from any interaction or they are out of there, yet they…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/18 01:22 PM
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My more optimistic message would be do what you want, I don't control you. Growing up I just had plenty of role models for having relationships and sex at a young age and none for the opposite. I wish I had known not having sex was an option. Because no, I never felt the carnal desire to have sex, it just a thing that I let happen to me since I thought men were entitled to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/18 12:08 AM
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I think the "where have all the good men gone" women are just as likely to be women who dating guys in their twenties and got dumped. If I really think about it, it was dumb of me to date a guy who lived in another country, was unemployed, probably only liked me for sex, asked me to go visit him over there frequently, didn't want to move to my country, etc. There was no future. And I was with that guy during my last good years of my youth. I think that's how "where have all the good men gone" wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/18 09:22 PM
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It didn't work for me. I dated omega men who were at best my looksmatches. They still weren't interested in staying with me long term. One was 20 and kind of started hanging out with new people and we grew apart and he left me. One was 22 and gave me the speech about not wanting to be with the same person forever. One was 28 and he did want to stay with me (he thought I was super hot), but it was a long-distance relationship and he got frustrated when I couldn't go visit him and he dumped me the…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/18 03:57 PM
1

Then why don't you become a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/18 02:44 PM
1

The bullshit was saying that "feminists are happy to let men fight wars for them". It should be "republicans are happy to let men fight wars for them". It's definitely not a feminist thing. Like I explained, feminists would most likely lean left and vote against funding the army and having any conscription. Sexists, anti-feminists, republicans, etc. are the ones who would vouch for gender-differential conscription. You were being full of shit by saying it's a feminist thing. You were being doubl…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/18 01:28 PM
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I meant republicans. Sorry I'm Canadian.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/18 01:08 PM
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Ew.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/18 12:56 PM
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I agree with randomcarrotaf, it seems like it would be weird to have an appendage there dangling around and getting in the way. I think having the genitals inside the body is much more practical, except for peeing / longer urethra.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/18 12:33 PM
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By lefty association most feminists would vote to abolish conscription, if not the army entirely. If there was actually a war and conscription was happening, they'd be picketing to end it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/18 12:23 PM
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If you call education being brainwashed lol. Is this some anti-academia anti-free thinking anti-knowledge policing? Just one example, "women in STEM". Nobody prevents them from going there; and at least in IT, they actually have free female only trainings, female first and perhaps even female only positions. Can't you read though? I said that movement is new. It wasn't there when I was in school and girls who were good at science were told to go into health sciences because that's what girls lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/18 11:27 AM
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I'd be a man. I'd be easier to do most of the things I like to do: science and climbing mountains. I think I would have been liked by people more as a man too because I'm not cute and bubbly. My brothers can be literal assholes to people and everyone just accepts it because they are guys. "Ugh that phone you purchased is shit. Your paying for the brand name like an idiot. Mine does the same for a third of the price." People think "yeah he's a bit rough, but he knows his stuff, he's smart and dec…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/18 11:21 AM
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You're so full of shit. You divorce-rape your husband if there's money to be had and you love him if there isn't? Thank god women are better than you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/18 07:35 AM
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How can you compare this? One is a daily occurrence that no one can stop and the girl has to endure it. The other happens but is still illegal.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/18 07:31 AM
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It's gendered because she gets raped.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/18 06:54 AM
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Lol. What if you're married to a brick-layer in rural Pakistan who makes 15 cents a day and doesn't have a bank account?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/18 06:51 AM
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Oh come on. Men do these things and get no consequences, it's sexist to say women should get consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/18 02:36 AM
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You're not dumb enough to be confused about which part of your double statement I was talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/18 04:46 PM
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lol no one says that
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/18 04:22 PM
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It's understood that we correct for other factors.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/18 03:14 PM
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What I see is a bunch of women saying "it didn't happen to me".
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/18 03:09 PM
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they're perfectly happy to have men fighting and dying to protect their way of life. It's not feminist who are voting for more army and more war. You are confused.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/18 02:05 PM
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This shows that in areas where men outnumber women, there are fewer sex-related crimes such as rapes, sex offences and prostitution.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/18 02:01 PM
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I hate to use this word, but I think that's what people mean by "woke". Not being "woke" is when you don't notice the things feminism fights and therefore you think they don't exist. For instance when I was a teenager there wasn't any talk of consent or women in STEM as there is now. We didn't talk about feminism because we lived in an "equal" society. But really guys coerced girls into having sex and if you were good at science they would tell you to go into health sciences because girls like t…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/18 01:10 PM
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Just do a bit of research and you'll see.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/18 07:11 AM
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It's better for the kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/18 06:59 AM
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That's not being a leftist nor a male feminist. That's being tradcon.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/18 02:45 AM
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The absurdity of this notion that equality of outcome is legitimate could be solved if women just stopped doing all this "unpaid work" that you think is so rampant. Well yeah, I think we're getting there. After all we went from women doing a lot more unpaid work and men doing a lot more paid work (the model of the stay-at-home wife and working husband) to women doing just a little bit more unpaid work and men doing just a little bit more paid work (the current difference being about 20%?). So we…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/18 07:37 PM
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Women earn less because they do more unpaid work. If you combine paid work and unpaid work, women work more hours and of course get paid less. I'm not saying the solution is to pay unpaid work, but men will have to do more of the unpaid work if we hope to reach equality. Also, the reason why women do not choose to go into certain higher paying professions is in part because women are underestimated. Studies that men consider themselves and other men more intelligent for the same intelligence, an…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/18 06:35 PM
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I'm pretty sure we're talking about looks here. Men are the more hypergamous sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/18 06:24 AM
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It's not real at all. Men are shown to approach people who are more out of their leagues than women ever do and men are shown to overestimate their looks the most. It doesn't take much math skills to figure out that men are the most hypergamous sex. Men only approach women who are out of their league and they do most of the approaching. So most couples end up being a hypergamous male with a hypogamous female. Of course you can't judge males to gauge anything as they are delusional and will refus…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/18 01:21 AM
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Anyone who does something to distinguish themselves will attract fans? How is that hard to understand? If there are guys who shoot up schools, it should be no surprise that they are girls who like school shooters. There are all kinds of personalities in the world. You can't look at a shooter receiving letters and conclude that women prefer men who do bad things. What you need to do is pick someone who has done something equally rare, equally noteworthy, equally publicized, but "good" and compare…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/18 03:12 AM
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Because he's famous and unique.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/18 03:04 AM
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Doing something notorious that is also positive is hard. Doing something notorious but negative has consequences (prison).
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/18 01:08 AM
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Do you seriously not understand what makes him stand out compared to you who have never done anything that 6 billion people are also currently doing?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/18 12:59 AM
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Because he did something unique and is now famous.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/18 12:54 AM
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Being pretty. People won't let you be an ugly woman. They'll say you need to change your hair, your makeup, your clothes. Also women are expected to have a tidier home and life and to take care of their relatives.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/18 06:00 PM
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It's possible. I say it's not a gender issue because I hold myself to higher standards than others (I know it's a condescending thing to say, but hear me out if you can bear it). I expected myself to be fit, but I didn't expect my boyfriends to be fit, I expected myself to earn a good salary, but I didn't expect my boyfriends to earn a good salary, I expected myself to use a bicycle instead of a car to avoid contributing to urban pollution, I didn't expect my boyfriends to do that. I am demandin…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/18 07:05 PM
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I don't think it's a gender issue. I think everyone should hold themselves to a higher standards than others. For instance you should be less shallow than what you want others to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/18 05:01 PM
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So you hold others to higher standards than yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/18 02:45 PM
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It's feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/18 04:52 AM
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Another insisted he wants women splitting 50/50 Why did he have to insist sis? Did you expect him to pay for you? When I suggested a meetup at a local diner, he flipped out saying I need to prove myself & what I bring to the table before he shells out his cash. Were you again asking this poor fellow to pay for your dinner? Why do so many men have this need to subtly put down women? I mean, they weren't exactly "verbally abusive". They were just bragging about being too good for you. Did you try,…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/18 04:02 AM
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Prove YOU'RE not shallow by dating an overweight, short, unattractive older woman with unclean hair STAT. That is the only remedy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/18 03:40 AM
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Well maybe it's because I'm in Canada but everyone holds doors for everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/18 02:54 PM
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It's not new. Some parents raise their kids to be Olympic champions. Other parents don't even bother making their kids do any sport at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/18 02:52 PM
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It's all in your head dude. Most people navigate the world naturally handing out the correct amount of door holding and help without even having to think about it. I guess it's social skills. For door holding, hold doors for everyone. That way you don't look like a sexist jerk when you selectively hold doors for women you hope to sleep with. For help, just don't patronize. Ask if the person wants help, listen if they say yes or no. Not helping is only inconsiderate if the person is really in tro…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/18 02:13 PM
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What makes you think she was "training you to be future husband" and not just using her child to do chores?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/18 02:04 PM
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Sports? I got a trophy just for showing up. Where does this meme come from? Who confuses a participation trophy with an actual podium finish? Varsity sports had winners and champions in the 2000s. There are still people who go to the Olympics so getting a participation trophy at age 5 didn't prevent them from becoming good at their sport and competitive.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/18 01:59 PM
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Sounds like your mom wanted you to help around the house because she didn't want to have to do everything and because she was teaching you discipline. Not everything is about sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/18 01:55 PM
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Well how can you say sex is hard to get if you didn't even try anything? It's like if I sit at home depressed and complain that going to the botanical garden is hard. But the entrance to the botanical garden is free and all I have to go is walk in there. It's not hard to go to the botanical garden, I'm just depressed in a way that prevents me from going there. That is your situation. It doesn't say anything about sex being hard to get.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/18 04:33 PM
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Oblivious to what? Your great pain as man who can't get sex? If you can't get sex it's because your socially avoidant or because your standards are too high (nothing wrong with holding out for that special girl, just recognize you're doing it because you don't want to lower your status by association).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/18 04:19 PM
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You make it sound like men are truly animals controlled by their feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/18 01:39 PM
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I think he's only talking about the need of a romantic and sexual relationship. People could still be super passionate about academia or business or services.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/18 01:37 PM
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Men would match higher with women they were a few years older than. Why? Who wants older men? No thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/18 01:33 PM
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Having sex is ridiculously easy. Either find a loose woman or become a regular woman's boyfriend and she will have sex with you within a few weeks.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/18 01:29 PM
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Maybe people are finally realizing that sex sucks. The benefits of sex in your twenties do not outweight the negatives. It should really only be used when you're trying to get pregnant. That said, I think anyone who wants sex can get sex unless they are an extremely ugly man, and even them could succeed in dumpster diving. Most of the men who can't get sex have either high standards or are socially awkward or both. "I'm so desperate I would date any woman, however she can't be ugly or fat or fro…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/18 01:25 PM
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Same thing for me, could but don't want, too depressed, conserve energy for more important things, etc. The only difference is that I would deny sex, but I'm a woman, so sex comes with a bunch of negatives.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/18 12:49 PM
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It's okay. I could go my life without it, but of course not if I was dating a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/18 07:50 PM
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Maybe it's mostly sex, but if it's so easy for women to go online and find a man than it is for men to go online and find a woman, it's more argument in favor of the giver-taker dynamic. If men had something to offer, they would find takers. Women apparently do have something to offer if they get takers. But I don't think it's just sex because women are more likely to support their partner's agenda than vice versa. Married women report that their husband is the biggest cause of stress above the …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/18 09:53 AM
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It's not being a virgin that's a problem, it's not doing like everyone else. No matter what it is, not doing like everyone else is considered weird. People think "well everyone was dating and having sex, what was he doing ask this time?". Virgin women don't have a hard time because some men see women like objects not people. They will think it's nice to get a car that's never been driven instead of thinking I hope this person has had a rich life and nice experiences before I met her.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/18 09:31 AM
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But they can cheat.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/18 09:23 AM
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My honest opinion is the opposite. Since youth, men are taught to demand and women are taught to give. That's why men are more entitled, confident, self-centered, pretentious. Women are more subservient, selfless, generous, self-sacrificing. You'll find more men doing business and more women being nurses. Women do the giving and men do the taking when it comes to sex too. We grow up hearing nothing but "nice girls give blow jobs", "dump her if she doesn't put out", "you must sleep with your man …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/18 09:11 AM
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Really though? Unmarried women + women married to men who don't make more than them doesn't equal a majority? I think you're mistaken.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/18 10:47 PM
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Just break up with your current woman if you want to sleep with another. Then it's not cheating. If you want to stay with your woman more than you want to sleep with another, then stay with your woman. No cheating. Two perfectly viable options.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/18 06:50 AM
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The fact that men cheat more while it's so much easier for women to cheat goes to show which gender is more faithful.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/18 06:47 AM
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You mean even if you're not married to a man who makes more than you? Oh no you don't mean that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/18 06:40 AM
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Yeah if you choose to believe everyone lies all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/18 01:52 PM
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Yeah I had some experiences in common with the other post, but not this one. Are you sure you weren't dating high betas? Rose petals on the bed, scented candles lit before you come over, an offer to go to your favorite restaurant after you made an offhand comment about having a rough day dealing with your family members or work... I never experienced any of this and I dated lowly shy guys with nerdy hobbies who couldn't get girls. In fact they rarely if ever had an idea of their own concerning s…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/18 09:02 AM
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Because if u are - woman should be supporting woman no matter what they chose. I can support whatever the duck I choose to support. I believe in children's well being, and children with mothers who have food careers fare better on all aspects.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/18 11:09 PM
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To be a balance of an excellent parent, financially and emotionally and also be an excellent doctor or lawyer is very slim to none. Literally everyone I know does it though. Not so slim. There are much shittier parents among those with shitty jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/18 09:19 PM
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I think aspiring for the top career is better for your kids. It sets them up with more advantages in life and they are more likely to have options and to do well in life. They are also less likely to have behavioral and emotional problems. Basically they get a better life, so it's another way to care for your children, in my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/18 09:01 PM
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Yeah, but the men confess that they weren't unhappy with their girlfriend and that they wished they hadn't done it. Seems like it was just a momentarily lapse of judgement for them, whereas the women were attempting to get out of a bad relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/18 07:46 PM
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At 30 though? Why do you move the goalpost to 10 years later than what I said?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/18 07:45 PM
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Well according to these comments it seems like there is a basis for it no? All the women say "my boyfriend was treating me like shit so I cheated on him" while all the men say "I just felt like having a one night stand because SEX and then I regretted it". Morale of the story: if you treat your girlfriend well, she won't cheat on you, if you treat your boyfriend well, he might still cheat on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/18 07:29 PM
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All the women I know have careers and I find the term "career woman" offensive, as if it's assuming the "normal" course for a woman is to serve the aspirations of a man. A lot of the women I know are doctors and they get married and have kids like everyone else. Now tell me again how "being a mom" is a full time job...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/18 07:14 PM
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Fertility treatment at 30? Retirement in your 50s? Your family must have shit genes.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/18 07:11 PM
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I disagree with you about what constitutes "male interest". It is not finding a man who will have sex you, because men will have sex with fences and dead animal carcasses. They like it. There are only upsides for them. Male interest would be more like men taking a liking to you in normal social interactions. Like I said below, if anywhere you go there are 5 prettier women around, no man will ever approach you, they will all go after the prettiest one. So ugly women have to approach desperate men…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/18 01:47 AM
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It was still about why some women are ugly. See my previous comments way below about the expression of male interest (spoiler: it's not a desperate thirsty guy reluctantly agreeing to use you for sex while never being nice to you).
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/18 01:38 AM
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I completely disagree. I'm a woman. Never been interested in the king. Only went for lowly pawns that might be interested in me. Only ever had an interest in men if they were interested in me. Sometimes I wasn't sure, but I completely lost interest once they rejected me. No problem getting friendzoned either.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/18 01:31 AM
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Also showing interest. Of course women are more interested in the guys who are into them than in the guys who aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/18 01:14 AM
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Meanwhile, actual high quality men like Prince Harry marry 36 year old divorcee roasties. But sure. You're "high value". And women "care about what you think".
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/18 01:03 AM
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Well just having an overall square shape with computer neck is instantly killing male interest. It doesn't take much.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/18 12:26 AM
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No. You just don't notice or register.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/18 12:18 AM
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homely looking women like Madonna or Lady Gaga Come on, these ladies have no flaws. As long as you have petite unremarkable features they can paint themselves a new face, but that's a big if. As for the bodies, I've been exerting myself trying to tell you guys that even if you're skinny you don't magically get desirable shapes and proportions like these celebrities. Here's a list of things that can make girls ugly: Thinning hair Bad hairline Small pig eyes Masculine facial features Crooked or la…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 11:56 PM
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Are you sure there's not A REASON why women get shorter sentences for the same crimes? It's easy to say "it's the women are wonderful effect reee", but what about attenuating circumstances? Men commit 20X more crimes than women. Women commit so little crimes that those who do commit crimes are often mentally ill (delusional symptoms) or in abusive relationships, and they are much less likely to be repeat offenders compared to men. "In comparison to male offenders, female offenders were more like…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 11:43 PM
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Don't we have brothers and male friends though? I know a lot of people on the internet are isolated (myself currently included), but I was around large groups of friends during school and college, and I knew about the dating life of my brothers, male friends and male aquaintances. I saw that they had it easy. In fact I saw women being alone much longer. I can honestly say that all the guys in my entourage dated up and the women dated down. My own brother was an incel with a horrible personality …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/18 11:56 PM
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What don't you understand in the sentence: "I don't want to have sex, but I still want to hang out and get to know you"?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/18 06:50 PM
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It's just communication. A human man can understand the meaning of that sentence and decide whether he's interested in pursuing the relationship or not. Pushing for sex is IGNORING the communication. She SAID she doesn't want to have sex. Now all he has to do is SAY he's not interested in her. WORDS. HUMANS. LANGUAGE.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/18 03:54 PM
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Some people still hope to date without sleeping with the guy on the first night. How are you going to get to know people if you can't say "I don't want to have sex, but I still want to hang out and get to know you"?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/18 03:49 PM
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Like I said in my other comment, guys think no means yes. So if you "I don't want to sleep with you, I just want to get to know you, if you're not interested in that, let's not hang out", the guy will say "sure, no sex, I want to get to know you too" and then he will push for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/18 03:43 PM
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So how are we supposed to get to know people? He could have said no to hanging out, the conditions were clearly laid out.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/18 03:41 PM
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What about "no, I will not sleep with you at any point during the weekend, under no circumstances, and if you're not okay with that, let's not hangout at all". Because then the guy will say "no problem, I still want to hang out, no sex". Then he'll try pushing for sex the whole weekend. True story.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/18 02:39 PM
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That's fair in most situations, but sometimes she wants to get to know the guy or even date the guy without having sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/18 02:37 PM
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Yeah, because I'm trying to end rape culture. People have to stop saying no means yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/18 02:17 PM
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It's not a game. She doesn't want it that much. You just insist until she feels obligated.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/18 02:07 PM
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I'm just saying that convincing a girl who initially said no to have sex is not crucial to populating the Earth.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/18 01:58 PM
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Harm her how? She won't die if she doesn't get the D. If she really needs a D that badly she can say yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/18 01:55 PM
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Your casual sex produced no children. Children can be had by having sex once at a calculated time. Men being happy at the detriment of women being happy. No thanks. Not to mention all the problems like STDs, unplanned pregnancies, child support, etc. "Muh men sexual pleasure" isn't more important than everything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/18 11:42 AM
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No? My point is "no means no" and stop trying to convince women to have sex with you. I don't see it being beneficial to society. And it wasn't just violence against other men, it was violence against other men and sex crimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/18 11:24 AM
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Fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/18 11:16 AM
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https://www.newscientist.com/article/2107806-men-are-more-violent-when-there-are-more-women-around/
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/18 11:13 AM
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Just hear one no and give up. No dire consequences. Nothing bad happened. Less problems in society. Maybe actual violent rape would be much more common. Nope. There is MORE violent rape when men are outnumbered by women. They is less violent rape when men outnumber women (ie. when men have a smaller supply of sex).
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/18 11:07 AM
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A ‘no’ said in a shy, flirty manner is very different from an emphatic ‘NO!’ Bullshit. A shy people-pleaser girl who doesn't want to have sex will say a shy pleasant no. There's no such thing as a "flirty no". More rape apologist lingo.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/18 11:01 AM
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Bullshit. If the woman is not willing to have sex, stop trying to convince her! What wrong will it do? That you won't get to have sex? Who cares? No one other than you. Stop trying to supersede other people's interests with your own. If sex is not had, literally nothing bad happens. Literally. Less STDs, less pregnancies, etc. Stop pushing!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/18 10:58 AM
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Yeah I think it's important to have a diverse representation that reflects the diversity of healthcare services users. It's not a huge difference and obviously this shouldn't be used to conclude anything about an individual's potential: http://time.com/4975232/women-surgeon-surgery/
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/18 04:16 AM
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But then women are better doctors and surgeons according to studies.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/18 03:05 AM
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I don't know about the MCAT, but if looking at grades, women get better grades.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/18 02:58 AM
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It's heavily female dominated in Canada and has been for years. In fact ten years ago they were already implementing affirmative action measures to get more men in there. In the province of Quebec, there are now more working female doctors than there are male doctors. Considering the older generations had more men, it gives you an idea how much female the younger generations are.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/18 10:52 PM
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Personally my parents are both doctors in their 60s and still married, so are my uncle and aunt, so are many of their colleagues I've met over the years.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/18 03:05 PM
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It happens all the time though. Lots of married couples with kids are like that. If you find this "surprising" you must live in a conservative area of the US. I went on a trip with med students from the US, UK, Australia, Canada, India, Germany, Denmark, Norway and all of them were dating another med student.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/18 02:58 PM
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Easy: Med schools have more female students than male students. Male med students are drowning in pussy if they can so much as grab it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/18 02:33 PM
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Well they were at least open to a relationship. Initially we had some cute-shy exchanges with butterflies in the stomach like tee hee he touched my hand. I kind of thought if the guy was shy it meant he liked me. Once they weren't shy anymore well yeah they didn't seem to care anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/18 11:49 AM
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I suppose it's my fault for not finding the ugly guys who live good lives. But it seemed like those ones didn't like me. I think men are hypergamous in looks. An ugly guy with a good life doesn't want an ugly girl with a good life, he thinks he deserves a hot girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/18 11:44 AM
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This is so offensive. Why are men so offensive all the time.
/r/MGTOW19/02/18 02:38 AM
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No. You spoke of class first. I was just replying to you. Here's your exact quote mate: Most white women just consider those types of guys "undateable", of some lower service class, the way "the help" used to be viewed. And now you're trying to fault me for giving you proof that I wasn't classist? You literally accused white women of being classist and I literally replied to that comment. Stop trolling.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/18 09:36 AM
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Oh, I'm sorry, did I say I had trouble finding a boyfriend? I was saying I have no trouble, but they treat me like shit. One of them was Peruvian and unemployed. I was in med school. Just to give you an idea of how far I was already willing to date down. I wasn't exactly classist. The reality is that low quality guys are low quality. They won't magically make great boyfriends.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/18 08:48 AM
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I'd love to, but my city is super white.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/18 07:55 AM
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It's only one line. You can check yourself. When both are employed, the wife makes more than the husband in 1/3 of cases. You're sexist as fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/18 01:37 AM
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Well yes in retrospective I realize that the guy who eats cheetos and smoke weed is unlikely to put any effort in anything, including relationships, but I'm a pretty ugly woman, so I took what I thought I could reasonably expect.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/18 10:04 PM
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I mean, you actually think woman are entitled to $10k for each engagement of intercourse. That was purge week... a week for shit posting... In reality, I always gave free access to sex to my boyfriends, as much as they wanted and then some, so don't worry about that. They never even paid for a date nor in any way spent money on me. I strongly believe in gender equality and I've always lived by it. I spent more money on them than they spent on me AND they got all the sex AND they weren't attracti…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/18 09:59 PM
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Sorry for the shitty data from 2000, but: Husband and wife employed 53.2 Husband only 19.2 No members employed 16.0 Other combination 6.2 Wife only 5.4 In 1/3 of marriages where both work, the woman makes more, so: (1/3(53.2)+5.4)/(53.2+5.4+19.2)=30%
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/18 05:22 AM
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Given your description of the men you apparently asked out makes me believe that you probably weren't all that nice to them, even if it was mostly just sub-conscious without you realizing it. Ah you're so clever you're a real detective using my reddit comments on a mysogynistic forum to judge how I probably really felt about people in my real life years ago from when I never reddited or spent time online. But obviously you see things that I cannot see! You're so good at judging people's characte…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/18 12:53 AM
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Bullshit. I was nice in college (and also super fit and successful). No guy ever asked me out. I asked out the shy ugly dumb guys that no one else wanted to date. They weren't nice to me. They definitely didn't love me. I find what you are suggesting deepling insulting.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/18 07:09 PM
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I don't think looks communism will work. I don't blame men for preferring pretty women. They are really pretty...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/18 06:04 PM
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Life isn't fair. I was super fit and skinny while I dated these guys. You just need to be more of an asshole really. They just took off my clothes and shoved their dicks right in even if it was painful. I could get them to at least enter slowly, but it took all of 30 seconds maybe. I remember one time I tried to be charming and ask my boyfriend for more foreplay and he rage quit and gave me the silent treatment for the rest of the day.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/18 05:42 PM
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BS. The way men treat hot women and normal women is night and day. They treat the Stacy they orbit way better than the girlfriend they later get. Also, like I said, a man who gets with a super hot woman will propose marriage right away and never to an ugly woman. Plus paying on dates, dressing better, the whole nine yards.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/18 05:39 PM
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That's if you're a hot girl. As an ugly girl who dated ugly guys, foreplay quickly disappeared. Sex needed to happen right when they had their boners. If sex was painful and I nicely asked if we could do more foreplay, they would get mad and rage quit. One of my boyfriends gave so little shit he said his favorite position was doing the starfish and I had to do all the work. He said it was because he liked lying there and not having to do anything, otherwise it was too tiring. I did all that stuf…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/18 05:36 PM
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It's good for your health and it's good for society and everyone. It's like if we all decide we won't drive like maniacs we all get less chances of being hit by a car. It's the social contract.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/18 02:01 PM
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Context my friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/18 01:54 PM
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Context my friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/18 01:53 PM
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Ok thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/18 12:31 PM
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Men can write any bullshit in here and get adulated by the echo chamber, but when one person speaks the truth, it makes you mad.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/18 12:27 PM
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It was that or being single and at the time I wanted to be normal and have a relationship and live a normal life.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/18 12:27 PM
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For instance they will ask for sex when they want it, not care about foreplay or what she likes, get mad if she says something, refuse to have sex if she wants it when he doesn't, etc. Outside of sex they just won't do anything. They'll refuse to go on dates and just be annoyed at anything that isn't sex. I've described it as dating a bad of sand who contributes nothing and asks for sex: They would never buy gifts, never make plans, never pay for dates. They didn't groom themselves, didn't exerc…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/18 11:02 AM
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Great post. Very clear and I couldn't agree more. Men will date ugly women for sex, but they won't put any effort into giving her what she wants or into making her happy. They will stay with her only as long as they can't get sex with a hotter woman, which might actually last forever if they are an ugly guy with no game. I've seen men bend over backwards and on their knees to please a Stacy they were orbiting even though the Stacy never dated them. Then these same men won't do any of that shit f…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/18 10:48 AM
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Wouldn't that mean most young men wouldn't be fine dating someone in their own league or below? Yes exactly. 3/10 men date 5/10 women who have better jobs, better social skills, give them all the sex, etc. and still consider themselves unlikely they can get Stacy. While they showered Stacy with gifts and favors, they do none of that for their girlfriend. They only stay with their girlfriend for sex as long as they can't get sex with a hotter woman (which might be forever). They'll still orbit so…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/18 10:12 AM
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Yeah but one person doesn't go through millions of collisions. A shy-ish woman whose looks don't attract male attention can reach the age of 25 with merely 300 Facebook friends. Out of these 150 men, only 1 or 2 will have never had a girlfriend, and one of them might be her cousin.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/18 09:50 AM
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If an ugly woman makes an effort not to be a vile person, acts and dresses feminine, and accepts that she needs to select a man not ridiculously far above her league in looks, she'll quickly find men, and will be husbanded up rapidly. I wasn't vile, I dressed up in nice clothes, and I selected men well below my league, but these men made no effort whatsoever to contribute to the relationship and they didn't care enough to want to marry me (that second part might have been because we were still y…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/18 09:33 AM
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Any woman who is actually looking to settle down for marriage has a strong preference for a man who earns more than her, or at the very least, as much as she does. If she cannot find said man, she has to settle for someone beneath her, which is a formula for marital disaster, because a woman will never feel secure in a marriage if she feels that she has higher value than her husband. Only in your sexist worldview man. Go do your own research, there is a staggering amount of evidence that shows t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/18 05:45 AM
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Utter bullshit shows your prejudice is strong. You have literally no basis for saying any of that: In addition to this, most of these marriages resulted from the woman not being able to attract a better spouse (mostly due to them being well past their prime, as implicitly indicated by their higher earnings). Most of these women realize that if they truly do want children, they're going to have to turn their hypergamy down several notches and get what comes to them at that point in their life.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/18 03:37 AM
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Women are not demanding.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/18 08:22 PM
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There's like 1/4 of marriages where the woman makes more than the man.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/18 01:06 PM
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I think the point is that if you did that you would get less hot girls. Are you okay with that? Wouldn't you want to get the hotter ones?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/18 01:05 PM
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Many women date and marry men who make less than they do. Why say "pretty much every"?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/18 01:04 PM
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That's not true. Plenty of 6/10 who are nowhere as demanding as 9/10. 6/10 will not only love unconditionally, but also do the providing for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/18 01:02 PM
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I think confident men don't worry about their girlfriend loving them for them and just want a hot girlfriend no matter what's the reason she is with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/18 12:59 PM
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I think a paternity test is totally fair. Women are 100% sure the baby is theirs and men should have the same biological knowledge (gender equality). I wouldn't even think he suspects me of cheating. If really he suspected me of cheating, a paternity test wouldn't prove I did not cheat so the suspicion would still be there.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/18 06:57 AM
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I really don't understand the outrage. He just wants to be sure the same way the woman is sure. It doesn't mean he thinks you're the kind who would cheat.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/18 06:10 AM
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1) Confident. Acing a test is always fun. That one would a sure thing. 2) No. 3) No haha that didn't cross my mind. 4) No. 5) No.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/18 06:04 AM
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Ah you're right.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/18 07:00 AM
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And how many women have you encountered in total
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/18 12:10 AM
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Alright then. Unicorn until no longer virgin. Then just another failed normie because her boyfriend dumped her. Still a lot of women are like that. They aren't man-eaters.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/18 10:44 PM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/18 10:41 PM
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Still, many women are like what you describe. Go to some university programs and it's like 99% of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/18 10:32 PM
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This has nothing to do with men being evil, it's her own attitude. It's extreme self flagellation. Come on. She didn't even do anything and she feels bad because of what the men on the internet are saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/18 10:21 PM
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I'm just saying they won't leave you just for better eye candy. Who cares if another dude is hotter? You were already good enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/18 10:05 PM
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Many women don't even think about other men and certainly don't care about looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/18 10:00 PM
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What you described isn't rare at all. In fact, it sounds misogynistic to say almost all women cheat and don't want serious relationships (the misogynistic part is where you have contempt for women). It's men who want to cheat and not have serious relationships. Women just picked it up from them. It's really unfair and untrue to say that women who don't cheat and want serious relationships are "unicorns".
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/18 09:56 PM
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I would say no. If he was kind of joking it wouldn't put a strain, if he was dead serious it would put a strain.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/18 09:55 PM
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Yes, this thread alone has many.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/18 09:54 PM
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The unicorn is a fantasy animal. Thus the metaphor.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/18 09:49 PM
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If you're gonna whip yourself trying to please men you're a prime victim for abuse. You didn't even have sex and you already feel guilty for being too slutty. Promising start. Guys will exploit that. They will make you feel guilty for something you shouldn't even feel guilty about. Then you will spiral down trying to prove your "goodness". It's very easy to fall into doing that even for a guy who isn't even good himself. All he has to do is accuse you of not being good and watch as you only look…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/18 09:45 PM
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Many women are like that. A unicorn is supposed not to exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/18 09:43 PM
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Many women are like that. A unicorn is supposed not to exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/18 09:43 PM
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We can't all be Chad though. Why should she want to please you as much as Chad? You're objectively worse in every way and you're lucky to even be with her. Is this a narcissistic thing? Like the delusion of grandeur / desire to be someone important? I'm not a pretty girl and I never expected men to treat me like a pretty girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/18 09:35 PM
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Fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/18 07:23 PM
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I agree with that. There's some of that, but I think people get less anxious as they grow older too, so she could be with a higher value man but more comfortable anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/18 07:22 PM
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This is male projection. Young people are more suggestible and susceptible to peer pressure. It has nothing to do with level of arousal. Why? Because women can and will do sex act without being turned on. You could say she was more anxious to please her previous lover than her current lover, but arousal plays no part. That is male projection because you only do stuff when you are turned on.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/18 03:14 AM
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Women don't "lust" and don't "crave to devour a dick" because women aren't men. Women give blowjobs to please their partner and if they act like they like it it's because porn brainwashed them into playing the part and believing it themselves. There are two reasons why she could stop giving blowjobs: 1) she became a bitch who doesn't want to do things for other people anymore or 2) her new guy said he doesn't like blowjobs that much.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/18 03:08 AM
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Personally, I was never taught that all sex is good. You never heard "doesn't matter, had sex" and "a hole is a hole" growing up? I call bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/18 09:55 PM
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Yeah he was unprepared, unfit, but guys always think "if you can do it I can do it" and he was like "I can do it eeeasy" and I was the meanie for suggesting it might be harder than he imagined. He complained the whole time that he was going to die and his legs didn't have any power left and he wanted to give up and spend the night where there was nowhere to pitch the tent in the cold. I'm not tall, I was just endurant and fit. The day wasn't even hard for me and even with the two backpacks I was…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/18 01:59 AM
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Heu of course some people can have it all. Some men absolutely have a wife you is attracted to them and children and even a wife who makes more than them. Saying "you can have it all" means it's possible and it's true. Beside, the feminist "you can have it all" doesn't refer to being handed gifts or getting a rich husband. It refers to working hard to have a career and raise kids at the same time. It's the woman's double burden.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/18 12:13 AM
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What kind of nerdy social group were you part of where the men were less numerous? It was the advanced placement classes in high school. More girls get good grades therefore there were more girls. The idea that there could be a social group that consists of more women then men, that spends their time getting drunk in the woods or whatever and ends up with all the men chasing a single women? Not pairing off into tents or what ever as the party winds down???? Yep, I swear to you. I shared tents wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/18 06:03 PM
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One of the problems is that men in their 20s don't want to settle down and women in their 20s don't want to date men in their 30s. At least that was a problem for me. I tried dating guys my age who weren't ever going to be husband material but I didn't care about that I just wanted a partner. They all dumped me because "life is only beginning and I want to try riding the pussy train before I think about settling down with one woman".
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/18 05:40 PM
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A social group of 60 friends does not devolve into all the men chasing a single woman. Oh about that the men were less numerous. We were a group of 30 female friends and the Stacy made friends with a group of 10 guys and they meshed with our groups though some girls were more on periphery and never got to talk to the guys much. The point is these guys pretty much all remained single because they were all in love with the Stacy who lured them in to begin with. Your guess is wrong. I made friends …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/18 05:29 PM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/18 05:07 PM
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For instance the bachelor degree in physics. 20 men, 5 women, all men after the one Stacy. Stacy was also a huge nerd, just a hot one. Of course the guys will think like you "finally a girl who likes anime like me", but really she's just the "perfect woman" because she likes anime AND she's pretty. It's the Belle from Beauty and the Beast effect. "She's so different so nerdy she likes books!!!" Oh but she's also the prettiest woman in the village, a beauty like you've never seen, and it's import…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/18 04:51 PM
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This post is a game changer on purplepilldebate. Incels are volcels, judgmental, picky and selfish. There are no incel women because lowly women will put up with anything bad coming from a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/18 04:47 PM
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I think the point is that women are willing to do worse things to get a boyfriend than what men are willing to do to get a girlfriend, that is why there are no lowly single women. Women are willing to get abused, used, disrespected, anything, and that's how lowly women get boyfriends. If incels were willing to date single mothers with kids, cheaters, golddiggers, then they wouldn't be single.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/18 04:45 PM
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If these women are passive they are more likely to end up with prison dudes than "nice" incels. They don't have the option to "choose".
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/18 04:41 PM
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They can't choose to date an incel if incels refuse to date prostitutes, single mothers, or women down on their luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/18 04:29 PM
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Yeah you're right. I just haven't witnessed cheating in my life and heard about it in the news.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/18 06:29 AM
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To various degrees. It reminded me of that because at some point there was a lot of talk about foreign students in American universities and cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/18 02:21 AM
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Maybe it's the same reason why citizens of some countries cheat more on exams, disregard traffic rules, throw garbage in the streets, bribe politicians.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/18 02:14 AM
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Sex [...] slanted towards the enjoyment of women Oxymoron. Propaganda. If men were interested in doing something "for women", it wouldn't be more sex. Yeah, men look for tricks to keep women interested in sex so they can keep having more sex. Sorry for the snark. I agree with the rest of what you said. navigating the more casual aspects of courtship as a young man is difficult It's difficult as a woman too. Men ask for sex right away and if you express hesitation they are hurt and move on. Can w…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/18 11:03 PM
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No they don't. I live it too. That's reality. Deny it if you want, doesn't change it. And I've lived longer and known more people so I win.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/18 08:15 PM
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Opposite. You can deny reality all you want it doesn't make it true.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/18 08:11 PM
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Not true dude. Do you live in Saudia Arabia or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/18 08:08 PM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/18 08:01 PM
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Yeah it was an overstatement.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/18 05:58 PM
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I liked them enough. I would have married them and have babies with them and nurture them into old age cherishing a lifelong of memories together.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/18 05:31 PM
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If a man wanted to pay for stuff I'd fight him. Lucky for me it's never happened. I doubt it would have ended well because I don't think men appreciate being challenged to a fight and they would see it as unfeminine.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/18 05:22 PM
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Yes but many women are fine dating pussies.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/18 05:19 PM
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No. Have you seen how I talk? I'm full-on crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/18 05:18 PM
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Liberal women don't say that and don't want that. I don't think you've ever met one.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/18 05:17 PM
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The only one that's true is that they couldn't and didn't support me financially. For the rest they didn't accept those things at all, they sat on the floor and threw tantrums until I gave in. Typical men want to maintain all the privileges without having to do the providing. They literally stopped me to do stuff on my own by using emotional manipulation like "if you go on this trip you don't like me" or "if you go on this trip you're cheating on me" or "I'll miss you too much I can't bear it th…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/18 05:15 PM
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No. It's mostly liberal women who say this. They want big buff macho men who pay the bills, and whatnot. Typical 1960s man who holds the door open, puts the jacket down in a puddle, etc. That's not liberal.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/18 05:12 PM
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In the civilized world women expect men who make more than them but only in the proportion that men make more than women. Basically women hope to date their corresponding percentile. It doesn't happen for women in the higher percentiles because the men in the top top percentiles often date hot women from the lower percentiles.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/18 05:12 PM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/18 05:09 PM
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Many people are okay dating "pussies". The average white collar city man is a huge "pussy".
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/18 04:59 PM
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It's NOT the same woman saying these two things!!! I've literally never EVER EVER EVER heard a woman say a man should provide and protect. People are liberal where I live and that shit won't fly.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/18 04:58 PM
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1/3 of marriages where they both work. It's not a huge proportion, but applied to the entire population that's a lot of people and enough to get trends out of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/18 04:57 PM
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I suppose it's my type.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/18 04:56 PM
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Most women date men they are not attracted to and they sleep with them at least hundreds of times before considering dead bedroom.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/18 04:39 PM
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Lol you don't know the guys I dated. If we got mugged they'd be behind me I guarantee you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/18 04:37 PM
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It proves that it's not a requirement. Protection? Seriously? The modern man's biggest struggle is keeping his spot in line at Starbucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/18 04:35 PM
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--pay for everything, even when they earn less than the women they date Uber false. I've dated men for a total of 7 years and I NEVER got a man to pay for me!!! --when married, outearn their wives (except for the exceptions which all appear to be on PPD) Men went from being expected to earn 100% of the income to being expected to earn 60%. HUGE reduction in gender role expectations. --act as physical force/brute strength/protector No. Lol. Haven't you read my story of when I went to climb a 20,0…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/18 04:32 PM
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I feel like I am better than typical women or blues in that regard because I have given access to my body to someone who I wasn't attracted to. You think the typical woman doesn't give her body to someone she isn't attracted to? That's like every day in most relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/18 04:25 PM
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I retract my saying about men having no awareness!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/18 04:06 PM
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They just want casual sex, it's not like they think you'll marry them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/18 03:37 PM
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You don't even need to be fat to get that treatment, just having a slightly less cute face than your friend does the trick. It's not an injustice that men don't hit on them because no one is entitled to male attention. And I'm saying this as someone who never got hit on in a club or otherwise. There's just no reason a man will go for the less attractive woman. Men have no self-awareness and will always imagine themselves with the hottest women. They only move to plainer women once the attractive…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/18 03:33 PM
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Many men who think the women they're with are into them end up having their bank accounts drained but not their balls. No. That never happens. Certainly not "many" men. What? Why would video games be a contraceptive? Its a social realm just like meeting women in real life. Because you're not actually around people and it's time consuming. The casual sex with the guy you wanted to fuck could easily turn into a relationship. There was no one I wanted to fuck and I don't think so because I'm ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/18 03:00 PM
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Like I said before, men went from being expected to earn 100% to being expected to earn 60%. Huge reduction in "expected role". Women have experience a reduction of their "expected role" too, but not really if we consider they are now expected to be porn stars for their partner. If anything they want men do to more at home while still being the breadwinner. Hypocritical. Women work more compared to before than men do housework compared to before. Women who out earn their husbands do more housewo…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/18 02:48 PM
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So you admit incels only talk about the Staciest Stacies?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/18 02:45 PM
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So? Men went from being expected to earn 100% to being expected to earn 60%. I'd say women went from being expected to do 100% of "female role" things to being expected to do 60% so men aren't held to their roles more.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/18 02:43 PM
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No I was just replying to cjx who said it's only attractive men. It's all men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/18 02:41 PM
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Because if there's one guy somewhere who only dates amputees I'm just going to look for a guy who's not like that instead of focusing on guys like him. It's like they give more power to the fact that some women write "6'+" on Tinder than to all the women dating below 6' men. Women know very well that not all women can date men over 6'.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/18 05:11 AM
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It's that men are so delusional about how hard they have it. "All women have 100 perfect-man suitors!!! They won't date anyone under 6'0!!! She wants me to give her cash!!!" It can be mended by listening to me: I dated guys who were short, poor, shy, chubby and had no game. They didn't have to approach me and set up dates or do any of that. They didn't have to work hard for sex nor to spend any money. They didn't even have to do nice things like write me a card or come to my games. They could ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/18 04:59 AM
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Who's doing that exactly? How are men "expected to fill their roles" by women wanting to work more? It seems women in fact want to share the burden that used to be on the men. How can you find a way to complain about that? And you know why you're even more hypocritical? In marriages where the woman makes more than the man, she still does more housework.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/18 04:58 AM
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What? Relocate where? Approached whom? I dated guys who had no height, no looks, no muscles, no confidence, no money. They didn't approach me and ask for my number, obviously since they didn't have the confidence or the social skills, and they didn't set up any hangouts. We were either friends or I approached.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/18 04:54 AM
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You think she wanted sex but the sex was too bad so she left?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/18 03:04 AM
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Maybe her beef was that she doesn't want to have a one night stand, she doesn't want to have the sex and be dumped the next day, so she wouldn't have wanted to have sex with an attractive man either.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/18 02:14 AM
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Well the Chads I knew had way more fun, but I couldn't date Chads.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/18 02:08 AM
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IF Who says they are humans? What if they are ducks? And they are lesbians? They are wearing skirts?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/18 01:01 AM
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Ok. I don't really know.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/18 12:54 AM
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I should have added: if she can leave him for a better partner and he can't leave her for a better partner, he's the reacher.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/18 12:53 AM
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I mention it now! But I didn't know when I was young. I thought it was normal to do it 100% for him and I thought it was normal to ignore what I want or like. That is kind of the idea of sex. Even in sex ed the idea was that they were teaching us how to please men safely. Beside it's not like I was "tricking" anyone. I always gave them infinite access to sex and initiated and took an active role and did everything they wanted. I don't see at as "deception" because I had always learned that sex i…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/18 11:26 PM
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:)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/18 11:10 PM
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I think my life is far worse than my male looksmatch and everythingelsematch, but I don't think my life is worse than ugliER men.* *Caveat: Although I'm depressed now so my life would be just as fucked whether I was a man or a woman or a horse. I forget.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/18 11:07 PM
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To have someone that I could care about, share the good things of life with, hold hands with. His "stats" and his appearance didn't matter. Just that he was sweet. The thing is all interested guys act sweet at first so it was pretty darn easy to charm me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/18 11:03 PM
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No there's ugly, average, good-looking, then Chad. Everyone is fine dating average and up.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/18 11:00 PM
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Same as anyone else would leave for a better partner. If anything it proves men are hypergamous (true meaning of hypergamy). If a woman can leave her partner for a better man it means her partner was dating up.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/18 10:59 PM
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Disclaimer: I'm talking about my dating life from 18 to 25. If anything, it's plain/mediocre women who won't look twice at any guy who's not a Chad while not having much to offer themselves. Guys seem more realistic with what they can hope to attain while girls are then ones complaining about a Chad shortage. My experience has been the total opposite. I had a ton "to offer" and I never even dreamed of Chads because I knew they exist in another universe. I never wished I could be with one or imag…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/18 10:51 PM
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They will leave you for a better man?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/18 10:29 PM
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Why is this relevant in this conversation? I claim the guys I dated were uglier than me and that they got sex with me easily. My larger point is that you have to sleep with a man if you want a relationship even if he's ugly. My larger larger point is that red pill's "female hypergamy" is bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/18 10:00 PM
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His quote was: it’s very hard to get a relationship with an attractive guy without sleeping with him first. My "ugly" doesn't overlap with his "attractive" does it?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/18 09:49 PM
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below average
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/18 09:41 PM
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Not entirely. I don't want men to have to slave to pay for my stuff. The middle ground would be that I would work, but I still wouldn't have to sleep with men before marriage. You can't because your not a guy. Why does it matter? I slept with the loserest losers. If they could do it anyone can do it. They had nothing going for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/18 09:25 PM
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I know you think you "caught me", but I didn't mean to say women are "better", just that more men do the computer thing I was talking about earlier. More men like video games. It's not controversial. I don't think I even said "women are more social than men", that was you. I was talking about spending 10 hours a day playing a video game and it getting in the way of meeting people.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/18 09:14 PM
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No idea. Deep curves and provocative makeup? I don't think all men like that makeup.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/18 09:13 PM
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Sure, a bunch of things, why? It's just averages. There are a greater number of men who play video games. Doesn't change the fact that a man who doesn't play video games doesn't play video games.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/18 09:02 PM
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Uh don't you mean to say its in favor of women? Yes. But men haven't won here dating wise least not yet. But blame feminism for that one not men. Its not men's fault that women don't date down. You think women sleep with men early because they date up? How is getting sex never been easier? I'm thinking my grandma didn't have to submit herself to humiliating premarital sex to get a good man. And she didn't have to work either. She just had to stand there and be smart. I, on the other hand, had to…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/18 08:48 PM
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I think on average men are more like that, but those women probably have trouble too unless they meet gamers.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/18 08:35 PM
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I know. I realized it made no sense after posting it. I suppose what I mean is that it broke my life-guiding belief that men and women should be equal in spending.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/18 08:12 PM
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They are attracted to fitness on a body with the right bone structure: horizontal pelvis, small waist, small rib cage and compact shoulders.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/18 08:07 PM
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Oh you're right.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/18 07:35 PM
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New idea: ban all women from the internet because they are never interesting anyway!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/18 07:29 PM
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Well at the time I was dating omega and I was happy with that so I thought my efforts to dress pretty were working. Now it's not my looks that's stopping me I'm just mentally ill. Yeah it's true some celebrities without makeup are ugly, but at the same I couldn't look as good with makeup. I think the trick is they have small features and paint themselves a face over that. It's harder to minimize coarse facial features.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/18 07:13 PM
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I had to give the sex to get ugly guys to date me, but I'm sure the culture varies from one place to another. Here there are no people who are "waiting" or "saving themselves" and that stuff is not part of our sex education in school.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/18 07:09 PM
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Except the nice guys use that logic to be the charity case themselves hoping to date hotter girls whereas I used the logic to go ahead and date charity cases. Nothing surprising, as usual men take and women give, low self-esteem guys stalk supermodels and low self-esteem girls date any ugly guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/18 07:05 PM
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Except 80% of my comment specifically referred to bottom men. But hey, women don't know they exist, I can just somehow describe how they spend their time and how I dated them and include them in most of my comment, but no, I don't know they exist... because.. TRP!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/18 07:03 PM
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:)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/18 05:51 PM
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I wish I could show you pictures, but I wouldn't find it ethical to post pictures of other people without their permission. For the record, I'm not a beauty myself. I suppose we were facematched though, and their shortness was equal to my lack of womanly curves. I was just way fitter than them (in terms of athleticism and body composition) and I had them beaten in every non-physical parameter. But it's not like they were omegas dating a hot girl. They were omegas dating an ugly girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/18 05:46 PM
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I saw the movie too and the point went over my head. I thought "oh well I'm not that pretty". I couldn't ornate myself with makeup because I would have looked like a drag queen. From the age of 13-14 I had shoulders busting my sleeves. I was definitely very fit, but men are not attracted to fitness, they are attracted to the proper bone structure.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/18 05:43 PM
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I can't now. These were my good years. I'm now old and my personality got much much worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/18 05:14 PM
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I'm sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/18 05:14 PM
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I guess but I wasted my youth.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/18 04:40 PM
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passive men that offer resources in hopes of sex and aggressive men that offer themselves explicitly for sex I'm saying I dated men who were passive and offered no ressources in the hope of sex. Omegas.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/18 04:34 PM
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Because I was shy, so I was happy just to find someone, and I thought what counted was having a boyfriend, not the quality of the boyfriend, and I believed in being nice to the underprivileged, and I foresaw myself earning enough money for the both of us, and I thought caring about physical appearance was wrong and I wasn't greedy. "All you need is love" "The essential is invisible for the eye" "The nice fish shares his shiny scales" etc. I really listened to all the things I was taught and I no…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/18 04:28 PM
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Oh come on. I've been here for 7 months saying men never bought me gifts and never paid for dates and I was defending it as a just and good thing. But yes, I guess after 7 months of hearing how men supposedly transfer their riches to the women they date, it has started to make me feel even more worthless and unloved. I'm glad you're getting such a kick out of it. PPD breaking people's morale one by one. Next you're going to accuse feminism. No, it's the misogyny here that broke my feminism. Men …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/18 04:06 PM
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Yes it might color my belief that men are good for nothing. I'm conscious there are smart capable men out there who work hard, innovate and have ideas, but for me they are mythical creatures far removed from the guys I dated.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/18 04:01 PM
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They were the opposite of alpha fucks too. I dated omegas. I didn't know at the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/18 03:20 PM
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Because men want sex not gifts. Seriously though, how come the men I dated never wanted to celebrate Valentine's Day saying it was stupid? They never bought me gifts and never paid for dates. Dating me was literally free and they got more money from it because I had more money. Why are other men giving their girlfriends cash and prizes? Where's this 'equality' stuff we hear so much about? This equality stuff is apparently in my relationships. I was hogging all of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/18 03:03 PM
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The problem is that it's impossible to get a relationship without sleeping with the guy first nowadays. Men complain that the dating game is rigged in favor of men, but come on, they've completely won and made everything centered on their imperatives, as usual. It's pathetic that some men find a way to complain that sex is too hard to get when it's never been easier. Maybe it was easier in the 80s, 90s and 2000s as the internet has recently started to take a dig at the numbers, but that's again …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/18 02:31 PM
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Not everyone can be hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/18 02:24 PM
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only 5% of women can marry and reproduce with a top-5% man. We're well aware of that and women don't wait because they think that will happen. They are just struggling to find someone who will suck around like everyone else, plus extended adolescence and all that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/18 12:14 AM
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Sarcasm or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/18 09:49 PM
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Nothing controversial here. Good looking tall people are already ruling over us. Ugly people are more often ugly on the inside and rich people are more often nice and interesting people. These aren't absolutes but trends.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/18 06:28 PM
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okay I understand
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/18 05:35 PM
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Those things are what every man demands in a relationship. It's literally just describing a normal list of men's base-line demands in any normal relationship. Why is okay when a man demands these things and horrible when a woman demands these things? Huge double standard. Where's the equality?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/18 05:30 PM
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In the show he regularly says he has a hard line at 30. One time his friends challenge him to pick up girls in old-man makeup, he introduces himself as 83, the girl replies she's 31 and he nexts her with a shudder. He also uses the "Ewok line" theory to determine if a woman is lying about her age (if she dislikes Ewoks she's too old, a contemporary version of this would be Jar Jar Binks). However the consistency is not perfect because there's one episode where he pursues a cougar and instructs h…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/18 04:34 PM
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You just fill-in the gaps to make the choice easier. What if A isn't a "super cunt grad a annoying" but she's actually super chill and and fun to be around, no complaints in that department, she just happens to fuck other dudes? Meanwhile B is loyal, but she's the annoying "cunt" who's always complaining?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/18 03:18 PM
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Barney in How I Met Your Mother. The other characters sometimes morally object to his deceptions (he pretends to be someone else, wants to take advantage of women who are dumb and have issues, invents ways to get them out the door faster, etc.), but in general it's portrayed as awesome and funny, his friends regularly high five him, he says he loves his life, his friends give him challenges for fun like "pick up a girl while doing X", and his friends sometimes join him either as wing man or as p…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/18 03:13 PM
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Well I thought you were one of my ennemies, but I don't think that anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/18 10:55 PM
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How? I thought the description of Christian Grey's furniture from the video was pretty hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/18 10:49 PM
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I am ashamed to say I don't know much about you since I projectile-overshare here daily, but thank you, it's fun arguing with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/18 10:37 PM
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Number 3 doesn't exist in reality, does it?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/18 09:46 PM
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How did you getting drunk make him ask you out? I blacked out and woke up in his bed and he asked me to be his girlfriend. who approached who initially. It's hard to say. He was in my university program so he was kind of there, but he didn't talk. I started talking to him because he seemed like he had a hard time talking to people and making friends. Then some of our extroverted friends started pushing us together, saying we liked each other. Then we went to an activity with a friend, but she di…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/18 08:50 PM
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An unattractive girl who does not approach does not get approached. I'm sure of that one.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/18 08:34 PM
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So you cannot say you "never got attention" you accepted any guy who gave it to you. It happened three times and it wasn't offered on a platter. I had to work for it! 1st I had to know him for 6 years and be his friend for 3 and inch myself closer and then I had to get drunk enough for him to ask me out. 2nd I did most of the befriending and eventually it was a mutual friend who pushed us together. 3rd I approached him. If I hadn't done these things no man would have approached me because for th…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/18 08:31 PM
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Is Chad an English name?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/18 08:21 PM
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It's not a catch 22 if their goal is to pump and dump.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/18 08:09 PM
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Yes men do most of the approaching but they do not approach unattractive women. Unattractive women do not get attention. I did get attention and I was at least not fat. I'm not discounting unattractive dudes. I just did not get attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/18 08:06 PM
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But it was the same for me. I had to make it happen too. And again, I never rejected a guy. And again, guys like me get way better women. Male hypergamy is real.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/18 08:04 PM
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It's mostly fair until you say I have too high standards. I had no standards. I never rejected a man. I accepted anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/18 08:02 PM
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Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/18 07:38 PM
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I am.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/18 07:29 PM
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All I'm saying is that you're contradicting yourself. On one hand you say "even low value women receive attention from the other gender". On the other hand you say "if you didn't receive male attention you are a low value woman". You use them interchangeably depending on which point you are trying to make "men's lives are so much harder" or "you are a low value woman". I don't even see why you would try to make that second point, you seem to use only when you cannot make the first point work any…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/18 07:27 PM
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I'm thinking of dropping out. I'll take some time off, see if I kill myself, return if I can, if I wait too long they might not accept me back, I'm too depressed to care, I love it, but none of the things I like give me pleasure anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/18 07:02 PM
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I know there are men looking for companionship, but it's not as easy as you think. I did what I could while I was young. I received next to no male attention and I wasn't picky. Thus I ended up dating men who didn't have much going for them, but I didn't mind that. I was blue pilled so I believed all that mattered was love and that loving people unconditionally despite their flaws was a virtue. Maybe I wasn't that great to date, but my point is that it's not true that women have a million of opt…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/18 06:56 PM
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But maybe remaining single isn't the end of the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/18 06:47 PM
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There's nothing I am not disclosing. I just didn't know I was supposed to be entitled to better men. I think this was even what this comment chain was about. I wasn't valued by my family and so I didn't feel valuable and so I went for low-value males. I spent all my good years dating near-incel men being a good girl and believing if I loved them enough we would be happy forever after. Now my situation is different because I'm old and depressed. But I wasn't like that when I dated. In fact I no l…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/18 06:22 PM
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Why do you think the friendzone has a negative connotation? Men culture is mainstream culture. My initial response was to this quote in an effort to point out that you are only talking about high value men. You can get low value man but many women treat them as if they don't exist as a potential partner. I know you have said that you have given charity attention/sex to incels, but you are in the vast minority. Well yes, but I wasn't an incel-equivalent woman (I wasn't among the worse women, I wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/18 05:52 PM
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I mean men discourses and experiences dominate society. We're taught that friendzoning is a horrible thing because it makes men mad. What men feel can never be questioned.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/18 05:09 PM
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Because they didn't want to have sex with me and they gave me no intimacy. I know what friendzone means and you're being an ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/18 04:43 PM
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In my opinion being used for sex is far far far worse than not having sex. You said you see men getting friendzoned and think "lucky them". If that is true, then how could you still feel bad about being friendzoned? It's called empathy. They say it hurts them, I believe them, I put myself in their shoes. It doesn't matter that I would like to be friendzoned, they are not me and they don't like it. I absolutely love getting friendzoned. I got friendzoned by many men in my life and it was always m…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/18 04:22 PM
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Yeah. There are also many women willing to be used for sex in hopes of getting something more. It all balances out. I guess you see women being used for sex and think "lucky them I would love to be used for sex". And I see men getting friendzoned and I think "lucky them I would love to get friendzoned". But I still feel bad getting friendzoned because the male imperative is what matters. You might not feel bad for women being used for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/18 04:03 PM
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D:
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/18 03:59 PM
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Also a doctor, but one who works in a lab and only talks to patients once in a while.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/18 03:46 PM
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I guess my whole family is like that, but it didn't stop the others from finding love and having a family. I think I could have done it too. I wasn't icy with my boyfriends and friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/18 03:35 PM
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Your mom is also your dad.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/18 03:30 PM
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No she's just a person. Everyone has their strengths and weaknesses. My dad was even more aloof. At least my mom knew what grade I was in.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/18 03:27 PM
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A specialty in ophthalmology where all she does is surgery.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/18 03:26 PM
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It negates the rule when the rule is "never, ever".
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/18 02:35 PM
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:)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/18 03:05 AM
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:(
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/18 02:48 AM
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Fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/18 02:12 AM
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You don't know what women would have invented in the absence of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/18 01:42 AM
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But do you understand? No more than 20% of women can marry a top 20% man. Numbers!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/18 12:59 AM
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Each beautiful women will sleep with many men. It is possible for any man. Each high quality men will only marry ONE woman. Is is only possible for a few women. There are far more beautiful women than there are high quality men anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/18 12:53 AM
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My mom's career is the only thing I love about her. I would have despised her if she were a housewife.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/18 12:34 AM
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I've never wanted a one night stand.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/18 12:23 AM
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Can we elect this guy as our leader?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/18 11:40 PM
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That's not a problem if the goal is to keep only one gender. Women could discontinue men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/18 11:37 PM
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Then I assume male gametes are already ready.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/18 11:24 PM
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Making male gametes from ordinary female cells will be possible. Good luck making female gametes and wombs.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/18 11:19 PM
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betas do that to me :( and then they say oh sorry I was drunk I didn't mean it
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/18 11:18 PM
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What's wrong with what I said?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/18 11:17 PM
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For now...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/18 11:15 PM
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Women don't know how to troll.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/18 11:04 PM
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So? By numbers, no more than 20% of women can marry a top 20% man.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/18 10:50 PM
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Even then, this isn't really about me, it's about the fact that dating isn't as easy as you think for women. Women don't date up.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/18 10:49 PM
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The equivalent of just getting married is getting to sleep casually with a few girls. Almost all guys achieve that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/18 10:15 PM
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That is true.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/18 09:57 PM
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Men are superior in a lot of ways. Women can grow babies. One can survie without the other. It's women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/18 09:22 PM
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You're not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/18 09:20 PM
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perhaps a bit difficult to deal with in person? Not really. Like I said, I've descended into madness, so my difficultness went up by a factor of 9000, but I was a chill person before that. That's even what my friends said about me, that I was really chill, relaxed, unphased. Girls told me they could never picture me angry and guys told me I was the least naggy woman ever. But that was before my descent into madness. I'm pissed now. And I joined reddit. And that's why I stopped dating. I wouldn't…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/18 08:49 PM
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If we're talking way too long there's two types: porn star long is for Chad, hippie long is for themselves. You will recognize the porn star long in trans women lifestyle bloggers. You will recognize the hippie long on a farm deep off the grid. If we're talking reasonably long that's just the fashionable thing and it gives you more options on how to style it. I don't mean cutting edge fashion, but do-like-everyone-else fashion. Age-appropriate styles then change as you age. Also as you grow olde…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/18 08:21 PM
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Are you kidding me? They have way way way more chances of sleeping with a top 20% woman than their female equivalents have a chance of marrying a top 20% man! That's just such a simple fact!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/18 08:07 PM
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Even then, many men, expecially at that age, don't have that kind of choosing power. I'm not exactly like those men. I'm a good height, I had rich parents, I was excelling in school and in sport, I was athletic, not fat, I had talents, jobs, hobbies, friends, I volunteered, I was nice to people and eventually I was in med school. A man like me would have had no trouble finding a girlfriend. Case in point, my brothers, who were similar to male versions of me except they did worse in school, worse…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/18 07:43 PM
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It's easier to have sex with top 20% women IF AND ONLY IF you are yourself a top 20% man. Not true. Sleeping with a top 20% woman is always easier than getting a top 20% man to marry you. BY FAR. It's not even in the same ballpark. Sleeping with a top 20% woman could happen to any man. Marrying a top 20% man will happen to less than 20% of women. Simple. that woman with 9 SMV is never, ever going to sleep with a man at 7 SMV (because he's bottom 80%)? Ultra, ultra false. It happens all the time.…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/18 07:38 PM
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And everything you're saying is insanity and bizarre to me. Except I talk about things I've actually seen around me whereas you comment on the entire world based on your inner feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/18 07:29 PM
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Yes I had sex with the ones I dated. The other ones were my friends so they told me about their sex lives. A lot of them friendzoned me and confided their girl troubles in me. Why does it make you so angry to hear the truth? I have to read all your red pill delusions. Your stuff is theories and hypothesis, my stuff is actual descriptions of reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/18 06:50 PM
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I know it. From having friends in real life. Granted I have no friends currently, but I had a lot of friends all of my life until a few years ago. I lived with men, I studied with nerds, my friends were men, I was friendzoned by men, I helped men find girlfriends. My neighbor is an ugly brown guy and he gets casual sex whenever he wants with younger women from just going at the club and he says it's really easy and the choice is ample in the 18-22 age range (legal age to go to clubs is 18 here).
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/18 06:44 PM
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Oh come on. Men love shit posting, circle jerking and locker talking. There would always be the manosphere and the red pill. I don't see you providing any more source.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/18 06:41 PM
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The male imperative is still much easier to achieve than the female imperative.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/18 06:37 PM
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Yes most men are getting casual sex when they want, however most men prefer a relationship. If the male imperative is constant sex with several high value women, then the female imperative is eternal love from a prince. The male imperative is much much easier to get.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/18 06:36 PM
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constant high value, low investment sex That is not the imperative, that is the ideal. That is like marrying a prince. And it's easier than marrying a prince.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/18 06:31 PM
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Almost all men sleep with multiple women. It seems much easier than finding a husband who loves you and wants to have children with you. Men can just as easily fulfill the female imperative as women can fulfill the male imperative.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/18 05:56 PM
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I am French Canadian.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/18 05:18 PM
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Yeah it's seen as evil to care about money here and to be greedy or want luxury.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/18 05:12 PM
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I'm talking about couples who are finished with school and have their careers set already, not someone momentarily earning more. A woman who makes less than her husband but supported him a few years while he was in school does not count as a woman who makes more than her husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/18 05:07 PM
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Not one time. Every time. It's like their job. Don't patronize me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/18 05:05 PM
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It's not just my parents, it's practically all the couples I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/18 04:56 PM
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Okay I chose to date, but what motivated me was the desire to be a normal well-rounded person and I couldn't choose which boyfriend because there was only one guy I could date.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/18 04:55 PM
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This might be bad for circumcision especially if doctors tell them it's standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/18 04:53 PM
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My mom makes more than my dad and the woman making more than the man is the norm in my family and entourage. There are no relationship failures except for my cousin who married an African who used her for a Canadian citizenship and then divorce-raped her as soon as the wait period was over.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/18 04:52 PM
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Maybe that's part of it with the first boyfriend. His mom always told him that I was too good for him and that I wasn't going to stay with him. There was a bit of a class difference. His father did prison, his mom supported him alone, he wasn't ambitious. He made new friends who were more working class and they made fun of me for being too straitlaced and eventually he dumped me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/18 04:49 PM
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But sometimes they stay with their girlfriend until they are old enough to want to get married. My boyfriends didn't seem to care. One dumped me because he made new friends who thought I didn't fit in with them because I was too rich. One dumped me because he wanted to go his own way after college and revealed he didn't believe in marriage because most couples don't stay together forever (his words). One wanted to marry me and have children with me but he was unemployed in South America and I wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/18 04:43 PM
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Also I understand attractiveness is subjective, but what I'm talking about is objective (shorter than me, fatter than me, less athletic than me, less intelligent than me, less successful than me, poorer than me, less social than me, less talented than me, had less hobbies than me, had way worse life habits than me, had worse job prospects than me).
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/18 04:39 PM
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To be fair, they were young. I'm sure some of them will settle down and get married. I think they were just hopping to ride the slow CC a while before doing so.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/18 04:36 PM
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I was not. I always shot way below my SMV. I only dated men who were shorter than me, fatter than me, less athletic than me, less intelligent than me, less successful than me, poorer than me, less social than me, less talented than me, had less hobbies than me, had way worse life habits than me, had worse job prospects than me. All of that in every man I dated. One had a better face than me though.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/18 04:33 PM
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Yes, but I didn't think of anything to say about the rest, so I singled out the passage I wanted to address. Is that wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/18 04:32 PM
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I didn't choose I just accepted anyone who wanted to date me. I would have been happy if they stayed with me and we got married and we had kids because really I wanted to care for people more than I wanted people to care for me, but they dumped me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/18 04:30 PM
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I've never met a younger woman who couldn't get commitment from a higher value man. I just told you there was me and I know many more like me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/18 04:23 PM
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Even if women like circumcised penises, I can't imagine a heterosexual couple opting to circumcise their son against the father's wishes. The father would always pull the card "I'm the one with a dick" and rightly so. Where I see a bigger amount of contention is when the dad want a circumcision for cultural reasons (Arab, African, etc.) and the woman is a white woman who considers it barbaric mutilation.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/18 04:06 PM
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Why do you think it's the women circumcising their sons and not the men? That shit was obviously a male invention, propagated by men, "researched" by men, recommended by male doctors, covered by insurance by male decision-makers. The rest is just word of mouth. It was adopted in the US because a man at some point popularized it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/18 04:03 PM
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I don't give him much status if he stays home and plays League of Legends. I don't have good memories with my boyfriends because they never did anything and they stopped me from doing things. Plus I found myself servicing pirates, jabba the hutts and unemployed stoners with an enthusiastic smile while searching my soul on how to make them happy. The energy would have been better spent on anything else. I guess what I got out of it was that it made me happy to have someone to love and to care for…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/18 03:58 PM
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There's a shortage of fast food workers so it must mean unemployment is low.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/18 03:51 PM
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I'm not special. My experiences corroborate with the experiences of people around me. Why would your theory be a "rule" but mine would be a "case"?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/18 03:49 PM
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It's way harder for a man to get lots of casual sex with attractive women. It's way easier to have sex with top 20% women than to get a top 20% man to marry you. Can you guys even math? Each top 20% woman is going to sleep with several men. Each top 20% man will marry only one woman. Do you even realize that necessarily less than 20% of women can marry a top 20% man?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/18 03:45 PM
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For a woman in her 30s, it's damn near impossible to get commitment from a man who meets all or most of her criteria. She will be able to get commitment from "a man". But she will have to compromise deeply on at least one characteristic, and that characteristic is almost always sexual attractiveness. This applied to me when I was 18-25. In fact it was worst than that, I had to compromise on all characteristics. I could only find boyfriends who were sexually unattractive, lazy, short, unambitious…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/18 03:41 PM
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fairly easily Sorry but I dated a bunch of men and none ended up wanting to marry me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/18 03:37 PM
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That is not true. I never got any attention from men so men didn't have to engage in any sort of silent competition for anything. The men I dated had no status and approached no women. They also had no qualities. THEY LEFT ME even though I never refused sex and often initiated sex, even though they never spent money on me and I spent money on them, even though I gave them emotional and physical intimacy, even though I never said no to anything and never required them to do anything. Saying men d…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/18 03:34 PM
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It's not like that where I live. I never got any attention from men. All men who want casual sex easily get casual sex by just going to a club. All men who want a relationship easily date up and marry up. These socially awkward men who never work out get to marry pretty doctors and a woman in their position would be stuck dating losers.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/18 03:26 PM
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Women's imperatives are much harder to fulfill. I'm not even talking about the quality of the partner. Just the action themselves. It's much easier for a guy to get casual sex than for a girl to find a guy who will love her and want to have children with her. You can stumble by luck onto a one night stand. You can't stumble by luck onto a guy telling you: "I want you to have your dream because you've already given me mine" (quote from Marshall from How I Met Your Mother referring to the fact tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/18 03:24 PM
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My mom worked 12 hours a day and then kept working at home, but her absence never bothered me. Her presence was much worse. She made me feel like shit when she interacted with me so I actually really liked that she worked a lot and I thought she was cool at her job. I would have preferred by far increased quality over increased quantity in the time we spent together. Even just a positive 5 minutes a day.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/18 03:08 PM
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My mother is a doctor and my brothers both married a doctor. Dating is so easy for men. There are 10 women who are doctors in my family and they are all married to men who make less money. No men in my generation are doctors because they couldn't get good grades. The same goes for my friends and acquaintances.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/18 02:57 PM
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We don't disagree that people are people, we disagree that asking someone to clean mud is inhuman.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/18 02:49 PM
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They weren't into it, but they wanted to do it, and they did it, and they are not accusing you of rape, so it seems like it worked out. If you didn't force the girl you're neither a rapist nor an asshole. It would be creepy if the girl was like "no I don't want to give you a blow job" while uncomfortably smiling to try to defuse the awkwardness and the guy replied "come on please just open it's gonna be fine I really want it" while shoving his dick in her face. I'm sure no one would take that to…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/18 02:36 PM
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I just don't have any respect for unemployed people. They are lucky someone loves them enough to let them stay in their house and pay for their stuff, but the least they can do is clean when the other drags mud in. Having a job is much harder work.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/18 02:23 PM
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No. That person isn't working! They literally get the other person's money!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/18 01:08 PM
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I think I have, and I think you're just enjoying being a thread-control freak.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/18 01:01 PM
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You don't? They clean your house, you pay them by paying all of their bills.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/18 01:00 PM
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Where's the snark in my response? I engaged with you earnestly and politely.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/18 12:57 PM
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Why is it less wrong when it comes from a sexual urge and concerns a girl who the guy thought would be willing but turned out to not be willing? I guess the difference could be premeditation, but maybe some violent rapists don't premeditate and decide to rape a woman when the occasion arises. The date rapist also makes that decision when the occasion arises, only the occasion is a girl he went on a date with. I think the only difference that matters is how obvious the non-consent was. If it wasn…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/18 12:54 PM
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How can you be "too timid" and rape a woman at the same time?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/18 12:44 PM
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At first I didn't understand your question, but I've read your comments where you and your partner have an agreement with each other that the other person can always continue unless there's a "no". I general, consent can be removed at any time and so enthusiastic consent needs to be continually given. Usually it is given by both partners participating and communicating during sex. If one partner passes out for example, they are no longer consenting. If you want to have a different rule with your…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/18 12:42 PM
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You could have found a girl to use for sex too if you looked for the ones who weren't cherished by their parents!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/18 03:31 AM
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I guess my corresponding belief is that high value males don't want me, I feel nothing when a guy talks to me and I would never believe an attractive guy could be interested in me, so I avoid them. I love being friendzoned by men. My best relationships with males where I had the most fun hanging out with them was when they friendzoned me. I've only dated guys who were ugly, unambitious, poor, lazy, introverted and I never broke up with anyone. I think they used me for access to sex while looking…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/18 03:17 AM
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I am a girl. Both my parents were distant/indifferent. There's no member of my family I could honestly hug. I didn't have a problem hugging or holding hands with my boyfriends and I don't think they were particularly distant. As for choosing partners, I don't get much of a choice in whom I date (I've accepted everyone), but I guess I stayed with guys who didn't seem to like me much because I'm used to not being liked much by my family. What about you?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/18 02:46 AM
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My mom was the same except without the mood swings. She also did the adoption and sending away threats. One time we went to see a therapist and my mom wanted to look like a loving mom so she sat close to me and held my hand or some shit, it was so weird because she never ever does that and it still chills my blood thinking how weird her touch felt and how fake it was. I also never hugged my brother and one time my cousins said it was weird and told us to do it and we succumbed to peer pressure a…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/18 02:05 AM
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It's not a slave if they work for food and board and clothes and everything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/18 12:21 AM
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Yes if someone pays 100% of the bills that gives them the right to use the other as their employee.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/18 11:04 PM
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Bloopers seem to have this attitude that housework is super hard and that only women clean houses. That's the opposite of blue pill...
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/18 10:57 PM
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And remarkably, half of unemployed men in the U.S. are on some sort of painkiller. I've noticed that unemployed people at the doctor usually have a story that goes something like "I injured my back 12 years ago at work lifting a box and I've never been able to work again" and they come to the doctor for pain medication. Maybe they get more welfare money if they are on pain medication?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/18 04:41 PM
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Maybe you should, but I wouldn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/18 11:22 AM
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What I said earlier.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/18 11:14 AM
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Because it's men who like casual sex, not women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/18 10:50 AM
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I had a conversation with a bloop here a couple days ago where I pressed her about why she held such high levels of animosity towards "unattractive/ugly loser males" but not their female counterparts. I explained to her that despite the fact that unattractive women have pestered me in the past, I held no animosity towards them like she did with men. Dishonest. From the dawn of time ugly women have always been ridiculed by men and rather viciously so. The animosity towards unattractive internet m…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/18 01:47 AM
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Running shoes wear out fast. Shoe companies must be making them like that on purpose.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/18 01:35 AM
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Good argument against incel logic. They argue that women are obsessed with "Chad cock". If they were, male prostitutes could profit. My answer to your question: women have sex to please men. There's no point in paying a man to please him.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/18 01:32 AM
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Places like r/depression are real deserts. Lots of posts and no answers.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 10:56 PM
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No. What they feel might be nervousness but what others perceive is disinterest. I mean now that I've seen the meme I understand the feeling, but before I saw the meme I though these guys hated everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 10:48 PM
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I would say not exactly the red pill because popular men tend to be nicer than that. But basically since women don't approach they end up sleeping with men who approach and that's not necessarily an indication of women's preference it's just what's available. Shy men will have less collisions with women and therefore will sleep with less women. Also guys who exhibit the virgin walk won't get laid because it communicates disinterest and untrustworthiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 08:43 PM
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That's a false positive not a false negative.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 01:38 PM
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Did I say otherwise? Your statement is so empty you could have commented it on any reddit post or comment ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 01:27 PM
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They need food.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 03:11 AM
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I've never heard a woman say they are more horny around ovulation day so it might not be a human feature at all. There's this study about women preferring more alpha men when they are ovulation compared to the other days of the month, but I haven't seen anything about general sex drive or enjoyment of sex. So many women are on hormonal contraceptive anyway. When I said deviant I meant anything sexual we do that does not lead to reproduction, but it's obviously not deviant by human society standa…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/18 09:28 PM
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I understand I'm not always clear, but this is just reddit. It's just not what I meant to say in this case. I don't think you're a jerk, you're being polite and engaging.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/18 09:11 PM
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Not good men no. A man who knows he's good and has a decent offer to make will make his offer in an appropriate way.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/18 08:38 PM
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Gosh you really pick apart what I say. In this case when I said sexual deviant I wasn't thinking about sex every day.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/18 08:37 PM
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I do wonder about that because no one says human women should be horny once a month, the general idea is that all humans should be horny all the time, having sex every day if possible. Why is it that women aren't wired to want to have sex only when they ovulate? I hope you're not eating because I'm going to go into gory details. When a woman ovulates she produces a massive dollop of clear thick lube that originates god knows where but falls into the vagina. It actually looks like commercial lube…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/18 07:13 PM
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Here's a male teacher in Texas getting 2 years of prison for sleeping with a 15-year-old girl over several months and getting her pregnant. http://www.star-telegram.com/news/local/community/northeast-tarrant/article176150171.html Here's a male teacher in Canada getting 10 years of prison for sleeping and romancing a 13-year-old girl over several years. http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/edmonton-teacher-student-prison-1.4443016 Look you can say that male teachers get higher sentences on aver…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/18 06:32 PM
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If you study evolution, some organisms are definitely more evolved than another. Unicellular organism > slugs > dogs Just look at the brains. Human brain vs monkey brain. Huge difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/18 05:12 PM
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That was a 28-year-old man having sex with an 11-year-old girl. He only got 5 years. Get off your meninist horse.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/18 05:10 PM
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No, but I mean I don't think she did it because the sentence was not enough to dissuade her, I think she did it because she didn't know about the sentence. Sentences are less effective if people don't know about them don't you think? I doubt she would have dated that boy had she known she would do 10 years of prison for it... unless she was really depressed and messed up and wanted to go to prison.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/18 05:03 PM
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It sounds worse the younger it gets but I don't know. I definitely didn't give enough thoughts to this to make laws. I think the essential is that the punishment dissuades the criminal from redividing and also dissuades potential criminals from committing the crime. This woman didn't even try to hide her crime. Does that mean she didn't know the law?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/18 04:56 PM
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I think I loved my partners like children. But I've also felt that kind of love for friends and for pets. If I have to choose between loving as if* they were my child or loving as if they were my parent, I would choose loving as if they were my child.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/18 04:33 PM
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I just give up easily. If the guy doesn't like my nose or is flirting with other girls I give up and think I'll save him the trouble of getting with his not first choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/18 04:29 PM
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Can it be worse if the child is 6 versus if the child is 13?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/18 04:28 PM
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And that's why I initially said "Men are just as fat as women". Look up. I provided those stats because someone ask if the West was different from the US. It is.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/18 04:09 PM
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10 years is steep. Her life is very much affected. In France it's 5 years for sleeping with an 11-year-old girl the dude picked up at a playground: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/france-rape-case-man-avoids-jail-child-consented-prosecutor-a7970811.html
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/18 04:07 PM
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You said the West Canada is in North America Australia is not in Europe
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/18 04:03 PM
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there was a non-trivial percentage of men who throw off BMI measurements due to weight lifting I think it's trivial.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/18 04:03 PM
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Actually I read the whole thing and it seems they were in love: After the open house, she accompanied the student to his home where she was introduced as his girlfriend to the parents. Vera said that she was received very warmly, and the student’s parents even began inviting her to family functions. The student and his teacher’s relationship grew, and they saw each other and had sex often. I don't know if she took the defense of the negged girl, would make more sense to take the defense that the…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/18 03:49 PM
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Yes, I'm sure these huge percentage differences are due to men's sick gainz in the gym...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/18 03:47 PM
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If you think the title is disgusting why do YOU describe it as the kid pursuing the woman? Instead of describing it as a negging technique utilized by the kid, you could simply say the woman wanted to fuck a little boy, at first decided it was a bad idea, but eventually she went for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/18 03:43 PM
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http://www.statcan.gc.ca/pub/82-625-x/2015001/article/14185/c-g/c-g01-eng.gif http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/10/11/new-figures-reveal-widening-obesity-gap-for-gender-and-class/ https://therootcause.com.au/wp-content/uploads/0812obese_729.png In 2010 38.5% of men and 26% of women in France were considered overweight while 60% of men and 43% of women in Germany were considered overweight.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/18 03:32 PM
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Well yeah that's in the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/18 02:46 PM
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Depends where you live genius. In Canada men are much fatter than women. But I take a global approach and say "men are just as fat".
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/18 01:26 PM
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I hate negging and dread. If done correctly I'll think the guy doesn't like me and I'll give up pursuing him, if done incorrectly I'll see what he's doing and he'll come off as an idiot. Generally all lines I've seen from red pill sounds very cringy to me and I don't like that type of fakely cconfident cocky persona guy. Amused mastery could be okay if he's genuinely smiling and having fun, but if he's putting on an air it's off-putting. Usually what red pill considers witty banter sounds cringy…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/18 12:42 PM
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Look again mate. Seriously reread this conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/18 12:29 PM
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That's not a good advice. I did that and the guys dumped me anyway. Men are people and sometimes they fall out of love. Then I'm old and I've had lots of sex and no man's ever going to love me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/18 12:28 PM
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You're describing conditional lust not conditional love. A person can love their partner unconditionally without attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/18 12:26 PM
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men’s suits cost a lot more than women’s clothes What percentage of men wear suits? Everything else is cheaper. Men's jeans vs women's jeans. Men's t-shirts vs women's t-shirts. Men's socks vs women's socks. Underwear. Men bulk, for example, and virtually no women bulk. I have both bulked AND cut, and I can tell you that bulking takes more effort and willpower than slimming. Also a CrossFit workout takes more discipline, willpower, and inflicts more pain than your typical yoga session. You've go…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/18 12:22 PM
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Men are just as fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/18 12:12 PM
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It's the trump effect. More people say it, more think it, it's a movement.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/18 12:07 PM
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You think it was easy for the first feminists? You don't seem to have what it takes do to something hard. You seem to prefer shitting on feminism as if that's going to help.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/18 12:06 PM
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What I see is you bitching about feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/18 12:05 PM
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Oh I'm sorry, name another job where you don't even need a primary school diploma. Paper route boy?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/18 12:04 PM
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Except that all of mainstream culture will eviscerate you for it and call you a rapist and nazi apologist Then why do you eviscerate feminism and call feminists feminazis? If you act like that you can't be surprised when others do it to you. If you start to talk to somebody who leans left about anything that's a remote whisper of men's rights I wouldn't have a problem if you talked about men's suicides, prisons, homelessness, child custody, paternity leave, dangerous jobs, crimes, gun violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/18 04:38 AM
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So? There might still be points where women are treated unfairly and it's fair to want to address them. You can do the same for men if you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/18 12:24 AM
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Good thing "make online dating easier for women" is not one of the demands of feminism then. You know, feminism makes specific requests. At least address them specifically. You could say "it makes me angry when women demand equal pay because in my opinion they already get paid more than men". Fine. But saying "it makes me angry when women demand equal pay because they get more matches on Tinder" is puzzling.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/18 10:20 PM
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You still didn't adopt the kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/18 08:20 PM
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Well I don't think realistically you will be made to pay child support to the child of the widow you dated, but whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/18 08:09 PM
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Hopefully I could still send them gifts.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/18 08:01 PM
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exceptional, which most women are not. Pleonasm. I understand it's a problem that you don't have the same rights regarding the child. Good point. I'd still do it for a widowed father's child even if I had no guarantee to be in the child's life forever. But I really like kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/18 07:57 PM
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Well there's nothing I would love more than avoiding premarital sex but men are very demanding in that regard.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/18 07:36 PM
1

Fine, what if the dude's dead?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/18 07:28 PM
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It's pretty much 100% effective if you're careful. But anyway the point was that the girl who slept with an exchange student who got accidentally pregnant is not more impulsive than the girl who slept with an exchange student who didn't get pregnant. You see what I'm saying?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/18 07:07 PM
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Well I agree it's not hard to avoid getting pregnant, but there are always people who say "I was doing all the contraception perfectly and I got pregnant".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/18 06:47 PM
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I was saying the girl who slept with an exchange student from China and got accidentally pregnant (supposing she was using contraception perfectly) is not more impulsive than the girl who slept with an exchange student from China and didn't get pregnant. I said "oh wait" because the stereotype is that Chinese men don't get laid, but that was just a joke.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/18 05:25 PM
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She's probably not the only girl to have slept with an exchange student from China. Oh wait...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/18 05:11 PM
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I get the impression that where I live it's girls posting ads online. They can probably work whenever they feel like it. There's no responsibility to the establishment that employs you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/18 05:09 PM
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Acting in such a way to make a man feel like a sex God doesn't seem easy to do. Every girlfriend does that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/18 05:07 PM
1

I specified no ex. Like he's not paying child support and they never dated. But for the rest I understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/18 05:06 PM
2

Well you don't want her to be your mom. I don't mind if you don't want to date single moms. I'm just curious because I wouldn't mind dating a single dad who had no other bagage than kids. I love kids and I would be insulted if his kids didn't come before me. I don't have the need to be someone's most important person. Just being part of his family is great honor.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/18 05:00 PM
0

So by baggage you mean kid. You should have said "too much kid".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/18 04:53 PM
1

Personally I agree that it's easy to not get pregnant, but there are always people saying "I got pregnant even though I was using protection".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/18 04:51 PM
2

You should write romance novels.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/18 04:47 PM
-1

What if there's no bagage? Like she slept with someone, accidentally got pregnant, kept the baby and the father was never involved. It's technically no more bagage than another girl who slept with someone but didn't accidentally get pregnant.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/18 04:37 PM
1

With another job you have to show up on time and consistently. I imagine it would be hard to find work as a prostitute if you don't show up on time, but since it's illegal you can't really be exposed or fired for lack of professionalism. It would also be a more flexible schedule where you work less hours for more money. I guess it depends if it's hard to find work.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/18 04:30 PM
-1

Yes, especially if he's widowed that's free children for the taking.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/18 04:24 PM
1

I tried it. Got only a few messages. I went on a date with anyone who messaged me. It only amounted to like 4 people and none called me back. I also tried messaging people and never got a reply from someone I had messaged myself. But keep YOUR victim narrative. Unlike you I don't consider the other gender OWES it to me to want to date me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/18 04:20 PM
2

Did I bash? All I said was that it's an easy job. You're just making my point stronger by pointing out how much money they can make. Beside, you're missing the point. The real "good girls" are neither sugaring nor going crazy during spring break in Cancun. It's not one or the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/18 04:17 PM
1

I was never confused about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/18 04:15 PM
3

Some of them have legitimate jobs or side businesses So that's another job, not the prostitute job.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/18 12:48 PM
1

Men have no conscience. When the police in Toronto pretended to be 13-year-old prostitutes to catch their would-be clients, the arrested men were also respectable men with families and jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/18 12:43 PM
5

He meant to say he feels bad fucking his wife because she's the mother of his children, but he slipped up and admitted he feels bad fucking his wife because she fulfills the role of his mom in his life.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/18 12:41 PM
5

Men don't need sex. Those who succumb to it are indeed no more evolved than monkeys.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/18 12:36 PM
1

Marriage is not a profession.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/18 12:34 PM
-3

And there are plenty of women who go out on dates with men and don't expect him to pay for their dinner and drinks and still sleep with him so it balances out. Women are not prostitutes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/18 12:31 PM
5

However, most women are dishonest prostitutes. Really? MOST? You're just a misogynist. Most women have boyfriends from the age of 14 to 27 where they get zero dollars from the man. No ressources extracted. Try some honesty.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/18 12:29 PM
1

Any woman can do it since you don't need an erection.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/18 12:27 PM
1

It still requires the least qualifications and effort of any job.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/18 12:26 PM
6

I've met Chads who weren't disgusting players and I've met disgusting players who weren't Chads. Usually Chads are actually nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/18 09:34 AM
1

Nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/18 10:28 PM
3

Never happened to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/18 08:21 PM
2

nope
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/18 07:58 PM
7

I didn't say I don't think male genital mutilation should be outlawed too. I was just giving you an example to make you understand that a feminist does not always advocate for herself. In this case the example is that a woman who never had genital mutilation could be campaigning against the genital mutilation of girls. It's not going to help her PERSONALLY, it's going to help a cause she believes in. You can disagree with the cause, but it's dumb to say they ask "can someone help ME". I am again…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/18 07:16 PM
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I have to explain this so many times on this sub. There's a difference between an individual asking another individual to do them a favor and an individual campaigning on a societal level for the rights of an oppressed group. A woman asking a man to change her tires - not feminist. A woman asking her government to outlaw the genital mutilation of girls - feminist. Get it?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/18 07:10 PM
9

It's not feminism to ask men to help you. I was rather feminist in my youth even without knowing it because it just felt normal for me. I never asked my guy friends or boyfriends to help me with anything. Like when other girls were asking a guy to give them a car ride I was bicycling for an hour in a blizzard. It did not make me popular with men. I think there's a saying "if you want someone to care about you ask them to help you".
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/18 06:53 PM
2

I never had more than one man pursuing me.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/18 06:53 PM
2

Single, that I knew, that wasn't a Chad, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/18 06:48 PM
3

You know I'm just using red pill logic here. We hear red pill men say "if women get dressed up it's because they want male attention" and we also hear men say "if women don't get dressed up they are dumb not to take advantage of the attractiveness boost".
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/18 05:03 PM
1

Fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/18 03:48 PM
1

Ok you're right
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/18 03:47 PM
11

when they act alpha and dominant, they get #metooed and their careers are suddenly completely destroyed. On the other hand, if they are nice men, they get friendzoned. The flaw with your argument is that being friendzoned is not a guaranteed outcome and is not a consequence of being nice. It's just that if you act nice to a Stacy who's out of your league, she won't want to date you. Also if you act nice to a Stacy who has 5 other guys after her, she can only date one of you. And before you say a…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/18 02:54 PM
9

She spends at least as much time as you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/18 02:36 PM
3

My solution works in so far as the assignment was "how do men avoid the kind of women the redpill talks about" with no other requirement.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/18 02:24 PM
20

They seem to hate attention-whoring hypergamous sluts so they should try dating women who don't wear makeup or nice clothes, however, they love femininity so they are attracted to women who wear makeup and nice clothes. That's one of the problems of red pill. They hate and love toxic femininity at the same time. It's not unlike what they accuse women of doing. They accuse women of saying they dislike toxic masculinity while actually rewarding it. As usual they are projecting how they feel themse…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/18 11:45 AM
2

But I think he might have had an actual mental disability. At least he had the speech style and look.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/18 02:18 AM
1

A fine example of confusing what feminism and blue pill stand for. It's toxic masculinity that's telling you that men can't be loving, can't be hurt, can't be used, can't be raped, etc. Feminism stands against that. The prototypical blue pilled man is a man who wants a LTR because he buys the fantasy of romance and finding the one true love.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/18 12:24 AM
3

Why did you say "boo"? That's not funny. It sounds nefarious. If you were a normal guy you wouldn't say "boo", but if you were planning on hurting her you might start by saying "boo" to enjoy scaring her. It's like the only time I was scared was when I went in a dark footpath and out of nowhere there was a man. No problem except he told me "don't be scared" with a mentally retarded look. The best way to scare me was to say "don't be scared". It made me question "why does he expect me to scared?"…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/18 11:03 PM
1

No.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/18 10:56 PM
1

Yes it is. He always sleeps with women. You get an indubitable proof and you still argue. Pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/18 10:55 PM
1

It's almost all women he slept with.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/18 09:52 PM
3

Not unsuitable. I did date the only choice I had. I'm not picky.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/18 09:19 PM
1

99 women are just the ones we know about on the show.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/18 09:19 PM
2

I think they can ascend or descend based on their jobs and personality. The two on the outside are good-looking with good faces. One has a bro-style going on and the other has a clean look. I see guys like that with hot thin girlfriends. The one in the middle... he has a pony tail and an actual neck beard. Maybe he would get a chubby girlfriend as punishment but they could be very happy and love each other. Their tolerance to hooking up with fat girl depends on what's around them. If they're alw…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/18 09:15 PM
3

We don't see the men's bodies. They might be as fat as the women in group A, yet I imagine they would be disgusted by the women in the group A. Although if the men are lower-class they might be used to fat women because virtually all lower-class women are fat in the US and it gets even worse than the women in group A. The same men with good jobs would hookup with group B and swipe left on group A.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/18 09:02 PM
4

If vaccines work, why are so people vouching against them?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/18 08:57 PM
2

No, I had one option, no worse ones either.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/18 08:53 PM
3

I just didn't have a choice in partner. There was only one guy I could date seriously at any given time so I dated that guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/18 07:20 PM
2

Obviously the equivalent of a dildo is a fleshlight and they both disgusts me equally, but they are just objects that do not ressemble people so it's pretty far from the feeling of a sex slave.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/18 01:22 PM
2

It's very relevant and there's a big market for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/18 09:48 AM
3

The guys I dated were also within 1 year of my age. When I was mid twenties I was weirded out by late twenties men. They just seemed foreign to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/18 09:44 AM
3

I don't get it, everyone is saying early twenties women prefer mid-thirties men, but the reality is that the average age of marriage is just two years apart for men and women. Are all red pillers closing their eyes and substituting their wishful theories for reality?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/18 09:40 AM
11

Women have always said intelligence is something they want in a partner but men have always made fun of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/18 09:31 AM
3

Oh it's significant and it's perfectly representative of the value of men and women. You can't breed life without a woman to incubate the fetus.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/18 09:30 AM
2

There is a market for it. It's happening. It's real. You absolutely can buy sperm and you can absolutely buy an egg and the services of a surrogate.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/18 09:28 AM
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Except we have a more applicable example: humans. There's already a market for it in real life. Try to buy sperm. Then try to buy an egg and the services of a surrogate. Tell me which one is cheaper.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/18 09:27 AM
2

Yeah if you won't want kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/18 09:25 AM
1

Eh no, if their counts were in hundreds they wouldn't consider Barney gross. Here's a lits of 99 women Ted had sex with mentioned during the show: http://how-i-met-your-mother.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_Ted%27s_romances
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/18 08:56 AM
3

That's not a robot, that's a blow-up doll.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/18 06:56 AM
2

For starters one is 5'5 and the other is 5''5
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/18 06:35 AM
2

If it's at work, yes, but how will you know it was indeed flirting? A lot of men say "she was flirting with me" when the woman is just saying normal stuff but with a flirty tone or smile or look. If it's not at work, then follow the same rules as for men: Talking is okay as long as it's in an appropriate context and polite. Catcalling or cold approach in the supermarket are not worth making a metoo post unless they keep harassing you after you've refused them. Grabbing, touching without consent …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/18 06:28 AM
3

And I addressed all of your points.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 09:19 PM
3

Hey! You misquote me under the guise of a quote! That's not how that sentence ends. It ends with "included in this AS PART OF THE FAMILY". Yeah if he doesn't want to be my family he can leave. I'm not exactly the bad guy here, I'm not forcing anyone. Also, you leave out this important part: "Also it would have been nice for him to be free to do what he loves and I wanted him/them to be happy." I answer you humbly, making sure I do not pretend to be better than I am, and you grill me for being ba…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 09:13 PM
1

Well yeah he's good-looking and it seems like it would be nice to hang out with him. I don't know the other guy, but I googled them and the other guy is 15 years older.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 09:04 PM
2

Wow. Just what I always wanted. Sweetie, you're not the guy I dated. But anyway, "thrown in there" references to the finances. Like if I'm buying a house for myself then my partner can leave in there with me and it doesn't cost me more money. That's what I mean by "thrown in". All that matters is that I get enough money to provide for my family and then my partner would be included in that. An afterthought. Fungible goods. Utterly replaceable and interchangeable. "Um, oh yeah, need a man in ther…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 09:01 PM
1

He seems nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 08:52 PM
2

Well no I wanted to support myself and my future children financially and then the man could be thrown in there as part of the family. Also it would have been nice for him to be free to do what he loves and I wanted him/them to be happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 08:50 PM
2

Because I wasn't greedy. And I didn't judge people on their money.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 08:48 PM
2

No, that's not how it works where I live. All the women have a career so "career girl" is a pleonasm. What makes the female beta bux different from any other woman is that she makes way more money than her husband. That's the whole point I was trying to make: that I was planning on marrying men who would end up making way less than me. It's strategy that most of the women I know employ to various degrees, but the difference between me and the guys I was dating would have been particularly huge. …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 08:35 PM
2

Well actually my grandmother was a stay-at-home-wife, but when I met her she was already retired. The same is true of other grandmothers I've met. What can I say... my parents' friends all had careers, my friends' parents all had careers, my neighbors had careers, etc. I just never met a stay-at-home-mom in real life. There is such a thing as a female beta bux. It means I was planning on earning a lot of money so that my boyfriends didn't have to worry about it (they weren't very smart or talent…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 08:15 PM
2

No I never did any debating not even in high school. It's just that twice in this conversation you tried to dismiss me by not understanding what I was saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 06:55 PM
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No I'm talking in real life. If right now I go out and try to buy sperm and you go out try to by an egg and the services of a surrogate, who do you think will have to spend more?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 06:53 PM
1

No dude. I'm talking about the cost of sperm vs the cost of an egg + surrogate. Nothing to do with IVF nor hospital bills. I'm not dodging your point, you're just too dumb to understand what I say.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 06:39 PM
5

Is that why there are standards to donate to sperm banks? Sperm is worthless until it's from Thor, then it's priceless. Priceless? That makes no sense. It's more expensive to get an egg and a surrogate. That alone is probably worth $100,000. In other words, only good marriages increase your longevity, and divorce will put you in an early grave as a man. Gosh the point went straight over your head. Compare the decrease or increase in happiness between coupled and single men vs the decrease or inc…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 05:41 PM
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What you're saying is that women WANT more from an ideal man than what men want from an ideal woman, that doesn't mean they GET more from a man when they are in a relationship with him. If you look at a specific couple, suppose the man and the woman are equally attractive, rich, intelligent, equal jobs and everything else, then who's getting more from the other? I think it depends on who's nicer and more giving to the other. If they are equally nice and giving and helpful to each other than... t…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 04:37 PM
1

The temperature is not just that women are more sensitive to cold, it's that women literally get colder. Men have higher metabolisms, more muscles, more mass. That produces heat.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 03:05 PM
3

I think it's implied in the scenario that you don't want to date her.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 01:54 PM
1

Option 3: pump and dump her.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 12:21 PM
4

Chris Hemsworth's third wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 12:11 PM
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Lots of women have a career and children. It's not one or the other. It wasn't even one or the other 40 years ago. My mother is in her 60s and she's a surgeon and she has three children and she wasn't the first to do it. There are lots of women her age in her situation. Where I grew up and where I went to school, none of the kids had a mom who didn't have a career, so it's not a new phenomenon. And I still haven't met a "stay-at-home-mom" in my entire life. It's just a thing I see on US TV. You …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 11:52 AM
1

I'm not changing the argument. What's in the media has always been controlled, so you're wrong right there, but I'm not even talking about control, I'm criticizing. It's damn well allowed to criticize the media. You're being ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 06:52 AM
1

Not a high percentage chance no. In college educated people who marry late there's not a lot of divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 06:37 AM
1

It's not rare where I live. It's the majority of the couples I know. And yes, you are insisting it's impossible, because you are insisting they will break up.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 06:33 AM
1

You're policing me about what I can and cannot be offended by? I would say the same about a movie that represents women in a sexist way. Porn just does it a lot worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 06:01 AM
1

You're so biased. Many women don't care that they are better than their husbands. I know many that made a life for 30+ years together and others who are starting the same thing. It's silly to insist it's impossible when it does happen all the time. You just don't understand or know women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 05:59 AM
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Because we're not assertive? As for why they get mad about it later, that's a different reason and I don't think it's that common. Built up frustration from bottling it up too long maybe? Also, I think women put a lot of thought into anticipating men's needs and might be shocked they don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/18 08:08 PM
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No I think they are fine with the not communicating their wants part, they just don't like the complaining about it later part (from your OP).
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/18 08:06 PM
1

If it's not about fear why is it literally called dread? It's not just about making other women envious.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/18 07:04 PM
2

It might be difficult to measure rape, but I also include sexual assault, human trafficking, misogyny and sexist attitudes. My reasoning is that sexbots would help propagate the idea that "women are only good for their orifices" or only exist as sex objects. If someone has that belief, I believe they are more likely to treat women badly, maybe not break the law, but do the things that he can get away with. Of course I am ready to change my opinion if it turns out that sexbots make men have more …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/18 06:56 PM
2

Are you trying to corner me or is this an honest question? I think my comment made it clear that I have no data on it and that my mind remains therefore open.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/18 06:02 PM
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I've never used sex to control a man or aspired to and I find it offensive that you suggest this is women's goal. Porn is offensive because you use our image in your fantasies. They are caricatures of women or perversion of women. (They are real women in porn, but still acting and used in a demeaning way, and sexbots are like women-face.) If you made porn about fucking paper planes and apples I wouldn't have a problem with it and you would still be in control of your sexuality. Moreover, sexbots…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/18 03:57 PM
2

the man has to be better than the woman for her to even consider him. Not true. Lots of men dating and married to better women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/18 02:50 PM
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Honestly I get the opposite impression. I feel like it would increase rape, sexual assault, human trafficking, misogyny and sexist attitudes. But I'm not closed to the idea of sexbots. It's already growing on me. If I knew it wouldn't increase these things I wouldn't have anything against them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/18 02:32 PM
4

Which part is denial? It seems to check out that women with low self-esteem don't like toned, well-groomed, smiling men. It also shows that the same is true for men. Anxious men dislike smiling, well-groomed, intelligent women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/18 12:32 PM
1

Oh don't argue on detail. I'm sure you know what I'm referring to - small, average face, doesn't work out, body is either fat or skinny, not stylish, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/18 09:04 AM
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"suitable for marriage" "happily married" Yeah no. You don't make people happy by controlling them with fear and shame. Let people be free to do what makes them happy. No slut shaming required. Those who will be happy slutting will slut and those who will be happy married will try to get married (spoiler: non sluts who want to get married don't all manage it easily).
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/18 07:22 AM
3

If you mean helicopter parenting that's more recent than gen y's parents in my opinion. Boomers were hippies and they didn't care dirt or letting their children go to the park alone. Now that gen y is having babies you often see this conversation between gen y and their parents: "it's very important that babies sleep in a crib with firm mattress and no blankets or pillows and it has to be fire deterrent PBA-free" "we didn't have any of that in our time and you turned out just fine!"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/18 05:12 AM
0

Because they make more money than most men and never cared about money anyway? Maybe it's because so many of my family and even people I end up meeting are doctors, but all the women doctors date guys who make less than them and are usually beta-looking. Even my female friends who have different professional jobs date men with less money and less status.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/18 04:29 AM
0

Never? I know so many couples where the woman earns more than the man. Married or with kids or both. And for all of them the woman tends to be way better-looking than the guy too.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/18 04:23 AM
4

When I started dating I had no standards. I was just flattered that any guy at all showed an interest and it didn't matter if he was hideous and had no career prospects.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/18 04:21 AM
5

Why that stereotype? Gen y have working parents whereas the previous generations had stay at home moms who literally had nothing better to do than to baby their children.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/18 03:56 AM
1

Ah okay well now I've seen one. I was under the impression that a new man erases previous men for most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/18 11:43 AM
1

An old ex, ie. an ex from before a current or past relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/18 11:33 AM
1

I never had an ex text me if that makes you feel better! I posted this here because "alpha widow" is a red pill concept.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/18 06:23 AM
3

It doesn't make much sense if you don't adhere to red pill dogma. For instance, when I had sex, I was "fucking down" and I would never have "fucked up".
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/18 04:05 AM
1

Didn't you just say you get 0 matches and no sex? You are a 1% bottom man. I don't know why you imagine yourself as a representative of the 80%. The men on the 70th percentile are nothing like you. The average men are nothing like you. I'm saying it's easy for men because even bottom men have it easy. I've known fat and poor men getting hot and rich girlfriends. I've known ugly men sleeping with several women. The guys I dated were bottom men and they didn't have to do anything to get sex from m…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/18 08:43 PM
1

Then change it for you're just looking at bottom men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/18 08:31 PM
2

Well I'm not as much as an expert as you, but the show is regularly summarized as Ted telling his children about all the women he fucked. Sure he wanted to date them all because he was the perfect blue pilled man, but that doesn't change the fact that he slept with them all. Usually on the first date unless it was a girl he really liked. Every time they were dating someone no matter how short they had sex. And most importantly, they told everyone about it and weren't shy about it. Nobody lied an…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/18 08:25 PM
1

I'm not sure. I don't really have an opinion. It seems like a good idea, but I don't know how it would be applied.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/18 08:22 PM
2

Okay, sorry I mentioned it. I didn't mean that is life, I meant it's an illustration of what is normal for a lot of people (not that everyone has such cool jobs and success, but the laid-back attitude to hookups).
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/18 08:21 PM
5

Excuse me while I choke on your condescension.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/18 07:42 PM
5

I can't relate to pining for an ex sexually or relationship-wise. They are the same anyway and once the relationship is dead it's all dead. I like to reminisce about being young, but I don't do it in connection to an ex. My happy memories are not associated with them. I can't relate to thinking of an ex when thinking about sex either.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/18 07:24 PM
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I do.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/18 07:16 PM
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Sure, Barney was considered gross, but Ted and Robin and every girl Ted dated seemed to have N counts in the hundreds and they were considered normal. They were never shy about talking about the sex they were having, thus suggesting there was no stigma surrounding it and no girls who would lie about it. I'm not saying the TV show determines social norms, I'm saying it's mainstream entertainment and reflects social morals of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/18 07:14 PM
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I don't like to go as condescending as trying to tell someone what they should do and think, but since you're doing it, I'm doing it: I recommend you stop being closed-minded and try to go past looking only at top women and your social circles. Listen to others instead of blindly telling them what they are saying is untrue. I'm telling you something, but you refuse to listen.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/18 07:11 PM
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It is ridiculously easy for the average man. Here we were talking about the nerdiest men in the most gender-unbalances environments. Of course they have to compromise, but they are not most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/18 06:51 PM
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I deny that women lie about their N count. In liberal places it doesn't matter so why would anyone think to lie about it? Have you seen the TV show How I Met Your Mother? Everyone sleeps with everyone and no one cares about finding women who haven't slept around. That show was 10 years ago and it was already the normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/18 06:43 PM
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It would be easier if everyone slept with everyone without shame. It seems like couples would form more easily. Maybe they would form and break more easily, but I think in the end people who are good for each other would find each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/18 06:20 PM
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I am like you at first I didn't know what I wanted in a relationship as I was just fine with anything. On the other hand, I know many people who stayed with the 1st or 2nd person they were with and they don't struggle. It seems like some people are quickly smart about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/18 06:16 PM
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At least your intentions were pure you were just mistaken. I do hear that past a certain age all relationships start with hookups. That makes it difficult to date while living by the rules of not being slutty.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/18 06:06 PM
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How does becoming more anti-social and introverted help men? Don't they risk shutting off and becoming less attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/18 06:02 PM
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Red pill often pictures it as a woman hoping she can date someone as great as the guy who had casual sex with her. Did you get a reverse of that (hoping to have casual sex with girls as hot as the one you dated (which you did))?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/18 05:46 PM
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Women are also reported to become more extroverted after a breakup whereas men become more anti-social and introverted. That is sad! Poor men. I still remember all the women I've loved. Sad. Luckily, I love my current gf more than any of the others. Happy!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/18 05:33 PM
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It's never equal because while the man can dump the girl and live a perfectly unchanged life for 9 months, the girl is pregnant and it kills her chances of dating and doing certain things. Then again after the baby is born the girl shoulders more responsibility and still sees her dating prospects more crushed than the guy's. She could say "we're splitting 50/50 so the baby is spending one week with me and one week with you", but how is that going to work if she wants to breastfeed? It's much mor…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/18 05:22 PM
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Well I haven't had sex in years so a while ago. But I would say it was every time.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/18 01:53 PM
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Okay I believe you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/18 01:23 PM
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"Carefully reread my" comment. I don't care if it's about you or a hypothetical you. You didn't ask "should I tell my girlfriend if I'm thinking about getting a vasectomy", you asked "should I tell my girlfriend if I did get a vasectomy". What I said applies to someone actually getting it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/18 11:25 AM
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Maybe just mention it? Since you're together and you're getting a small operation it should be something you would normally mention. I don't mean getting her opinion on it, I mean telling her about it. If you were getting a skin spot removed or something you would probably mention it. Why don't you want to mention it? Is it because you are afraid she will leave you if you tell her that?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/18 11:18 AM
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I think it would be gradual too if they were turned off by the US academic culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/18 06:59 AM
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It doesn't change much. It seems like it only affects the sociology department or faculty. I don't think you can know that what is happening with Indian students is a symptom of a disease. Like I said initially, it might as well be happening because the top Indian universities have stepped up their game, because India as a country offers more opportunities than before, or because American universities have become saturated with cash-cows foreign students.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/18 05:21 AM
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Divorced means failed marriage so it's wearing a badge of failure. On the other hand it means you managed to have someone love you enough to want to marry you. Older people who are never married might be even bigger failures (unless they didn't want to get married).
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/18 05:01 AM
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Yeah okay I understand that you're sad with the way your school is changing, but I don't understand why it's sad that smart Indian students now choose Indian universities. Good for India.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/18 04:14 AM
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Reds are usually wrong about majority and cause and effect. You're also contradicting yourselves. Usually you say it doesn't matter if men do it just as much because you want advice that's useful for men to deal with women. Here you're saying you talk about the stuff that women do more than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/18 02:18 AM
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When I say "not all women are like that", I usually mean "most women aren't like that". I'm allowed to say your red pill concepts are wrong and do not reflect reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/18 02:15 AM
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We had the same friends and we got together in groups and we got talking during these group activities and one day we kissed.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/18 02:03 AM
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This implies all women or most women share your same view about that they know how to tell men what they want and aren't afraid to voice it. No actually when I said "women keep telling you to wait for affirmative consent" I was referring to all the news articles about affirmative consent. That's not in my head. These advice about sex are out there. And yet There's no "and yet". You said "she didn't say a word". That's wrong because she said several words.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/18 01:58 AM
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I'm all for the decentralization of knowledge. Hopefully if the Indian brain drain has stopped it's because the top Indian universities have stepped up their game and because India now offers better opportunities than in the past. I don't see why you would want the US to have the monopole on smart students other than to justify your life choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/18 05:49 PM
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I understand why you might disagree with what I said, and I disagree with you that this women didn't say a word since she said "let's do this some other time" and "I don't want to feel forced", but beyond all that I'm most interested in hearing you explain why you call it solipsism. So please: why do you call it solipsism?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/18 05:12 PM
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I disagree. The most militant feminists I've known didn't act bubbly and dumb. They acted grave, studied serious subjects, and could talk about a bunch of different topics. It's like you're trying to argue that feminists are the most girly, bubbly, flirty women out there. Anyone would say that's not the case. I think it's dumb to say "anyone who advocates for feminism is doing it because it will personally benefit them or because they aren't good enough to live their lives without it". Some peop…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/18 01:21 PM
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Doesn't check out. Even in my "prime years" of 18-22 I was walking around thinking "I'm a 5, there's no way any guy's ever going to like me, even that 3/10 would be sad to be with me because I'm not hot enough, oh and I better look away and avoid that 7/10 guy because if he thinks I'm into him he will bully me for it". In before you ask if I was fat: I wasn't. I was very athletic in my youth. The guys I dated were not good-looking, they were 5'5 and 5'7 (I'm 5'6) and they were chubby. In before …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/18 01:13 PM
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Never heard my girlfriends talk behind guys' back. The only time I heard something remotely negative was when my friend's boyfriend cheated on her and left her for another girl after she supported him for 7 years and even then no one badmouthed him, she just said it had been a tough few months for her and we just said she would pull through and did the right thing (concerning her moving out and refusing to see him thereafter). You really should hear how women talk among themselves. It's nothing …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/18 11:58 AM
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For all you know he could have been a Chad sleeping with a ton of girls and his grandma wanted him to get with a nice girl from church and he kept saying no way and the grandma passed it as he's shy to be polite and keep you on the hook.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/18 11:51 AM
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Playing dumb doesn't mean you're an object. It's a flirting strategy and those who use it aren't necessarily flirting all the time unless their personality is to be flirty. Not all women have a flirty personality. I've seen women act non-flirty and be treated like serious, intelligent peers by men. I've seen it a lot. Maybe you haven't known women like that, but other men have.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/18 11:41 AM
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You've never heard a man use self-deprecating humor to get out of an embarrassing situation?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/18 11:28 AM
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I denied almost all of them. Let me rephrase: Not asking a man out can be being a subject if you don't want to date anyone Women who are good at being an entrepreneur do become entrepreneurs Guys make the first move because they become subject first not because women aren't subjects Proposing whatever Many women do not wear makeup - I certainly don't Women blaming the patriarchy whatever Affirmative consent is women being subjects not objects Bad sex I don't think I addressed what you were sayin…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/18 08:11 AM
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Nobody does all that and even when we do it's not as inconsequential as you think. ask men out. When I didn't approach men it was because I wasn't looking for a man. Simply not asking men out doesn't mean I'm an object. When I came to think "I should be dating someone right now" I did approach a man. entrepeneurs. I don't want to be an entrepreneur because I suck at it and I have no good ideas. I'm not forcing men like me to become entrepreneurs. I think those who are good at it should do it reg…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/18 07:48 AM
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Well this wasn't about happiness, this was about toxic masculinity. I was only arguing that toxic masculinity is not caused by competition for access to female sex partners, which is what the OP is about. You're the one pushing an agenda by accusing me of gynocentrism. My comment didn't even mention if one was more ideal than the other. I was purely addressing the causality link raised in the OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/18 05:14 AM
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I liked shy guys when I was younger, but I didn't have the social awareness to think "that guy is shy, he probably doesn't have a girlfriend, I should go talk to him". I would just think "he doesn't talk to me so he doesn't like me". It's a lot to assume someone would think you are their dream girl. (Edit: oops I wrote the same thing twice)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/18 03:20 AM
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I've shown this study on the sub before so sorry for the repeat, but it might CYV: https://www.newscientist.com/article/2107806-men-are-more-violent-when-there-are-more-women-around/ It seems like men are more toxic-masculine when there's less competition to get women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/18 03:12 AM
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I briefly looked it up, they say fair pay, consent, equality between the man and the woman, sex in the context of a larger relationship, sex as something two people do for themselves not for the viewers, diverse representation without fetishization, and sex as "not something a penis does to a vagina".
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/18 03:28 PM
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She's a person not a stereotype.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/18 03:08 PM
1

I saw someone non-ironically recommend "feminist porn" during the metoo movement.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/18 03:04 PM
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I think a fleshlight is pretty devoid of female stereotypes. I don't really see it as a representation of a woman. I guess the more complex the masturbation device, the closer it becomes to a caricature or "woman face". I think porn is sexist in the way it represents women and I imagine some of these features would be implemented in sexbots. The same applies to male sexbots.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/18 02:54 PM
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I wouldn't mind. Paradoxically, I think sexbots are pretty sexist (just like any other representation of women as stereotypes reduced to sexual objects belonging to men), but as long as my partner isn't sexist himself, he can do what he wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/18 02:40 PM
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I'm a woman and it makes me feel worthless. Imagine this: I dated some schmucks from 19 to 25 and got zero dollar for it. Does that mean I have these losers metaphorical hundreds of thousands of dollars? I say don't sweat it, it's only a few pretty girls who can do this. Chances are you wouldn't be one of them if you were a woman. Even if you've got the looks, your soul would have to be incredibly blackened to think about doing this at 19.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/18 01:49 PM
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I think a lot of those will be late bloomers (though they would find that suggestion insulting). The average age on incels.me is about 18. I think the true incels in the past would have struggled to make the social connections leading to an arranged marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/18 03:12 AM
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From my first post I had broadened the scope of the argument. It was not clear. You mentioned including everything outside of arranged marriages after I had already made a reply about arranged marriages. My comment is still true for arranged marriage regardless of how mad it makes you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/18 02:20 AM
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No, the topic is about arranged marriages in the past. You used "blowjob and sunshine" to imply being in an arranged marriage wasn't so great for men either, and it was more literally implying a good marriage is a marriage with blowjobs, which seems pretty silly when you think about the sexual horrors that some women had to endure in arranged marriages.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/18 02:18 AM
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Just a reminder that you quoted yourself with an extremely cliché and paradoxal saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/18 02:14 AM
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Incels are 90% 18 year olds who complain they haven't had a girlfriend yet and decide it's over.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/18 02:12 AM
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We were both talking about the downsides of arranged marriage, as this is what the post is about. You said: "people act like women had it bad, but it wasn't all sunshine and blowjob for men" I replied: "getting beaten up and raped by your husband is worse than not getting a good blowjob from you wife" Notice thus far everyone was still talking about arranged marriage. Then you tried saying something totally unrelated to the topic in a desperate attempt to save face: "bbbut dying in a war is wors…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/18 02:09 AM
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You said that in A DIFFERENT COMMENT.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/18 02:06 AM
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You said: it was all sunshine and blowjobs for men The post is about arranged marriages.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/18 02:04 AM
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It's the opposite actually. I wish to go under the radar and unnoticed. The only times I considered leaving were when I was getting too much attention from people like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/18 02:02 AM
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If you want, but that's not what you were talking about now. In fact, that has nothing to do with arranged marriage. Nice try.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/18 02:00 AM
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I don't think men had a higher chance of having sex in the past. Now it's 99%. No parent would marry their daughters to an incel - actual incels from the incels community who don't have looks, personality, money, intelligence or status and can't hold a five-minute conversation in which they give off a decent vibe.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/18 01:56 AM
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Yet they also claim that only a percentage of men passed their genes compared to women. Or some kind of statistics that shows there were more rejected men in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/18 01:54 AM
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Getting beaten up and raped > Not getting a mind-blowing blowjob
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/18 01:52 AM
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For casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/18 01:47 AM
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Which part is trolling Doom_and-Gloom? Because you get to say PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT pinkgoldrose is a troll. Don't feed her. in response to my intelligent answer and the mods don't ban you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/18 01:46 AM
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What's your point? You know I'm not trolling. I wouldn't take the time to write an intelligent answer if I wanted to troll. What you're doing is witch-hunting and circle-jerking.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/18 01:38 AM
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I'm talking about men in general, even the ugly ones. They have it ridiculously easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/18 01:36 AM
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No, I'm sincere.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/18 01:34 AM
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Not everyone. We're discussing trends. And I made sure to use "I" statements not to hurt your feels. "I agree with this." "Where I live" "The only thing I can imagine" Then I posted a study that adds to the discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/18 01:28 AM
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And you think I didn't have to compromise?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/18 01:27 AM
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women don't really want a lot of sex, they "settle" for it when they don't think they can find a man who will commit to a low-sex relationship. I agree with this. Where I live it's necessary to have sex if you ever hope to find love and have some kind of normal life down the road. Men have the upper-hand. It seems very easy for them to find casual sex or girlfriends who are superior to them in every way. Women aren't in a position to negotiate things such as staying a virgin. Why would women hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/18 06:36 PM
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It's true there was an increase in the amount of eye-rolls my boyfriends gave me before they dumped me. I took it as a form of dismissal more than disgust.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/18 04:57 PM
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Friendzone is nothing. People have 30+ friends. Being made a friend or "used" as a friend is not doing anything to that person. Sex is more serious, more exclusive, more risky. There's no double standard because if you reverse the genders in the story people would give the same advice. Your error is assuming the friendzone is the same as the fuck-zone with gender reversed. It's not. Edit: The opposite of the fuck-zone is being in a committed romantic relationship without sex. Edit 2: Also, if th…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/18 09:00 AM
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Lots of virgins during their bachelor degree, but they had sex during it or shortly after it. It's a pretty impressive feat considering they outnumbered girls 5:1. Those who were late virgins admitted they were holding out for a Stacy who was way hotter and more popular than themselves and they had sex when they lowered their expectations. Dating is so easy for men, I know several who went only and quickly found a girlfriend/wife who was hotter and richer than them. You can't just expect to be a…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/18 01:57 AM
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It's never called creepy, no. It's only a bit dramatic if they make it a "declaration". Otherwise they can just chill and make other friends like everyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/18 09:40 AM
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No he's not. A guy who breaks up a friendship for some dramatic reason like "I'm in love with you and being around you is too painful so goodbye forever" is not a "Nice Guy" and nobody hates him.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/18 08:17 AM
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A "Nice Guy" is a guy who says he's nice, but he's not. Images from r/niceguys illustrates that concept succinctly: This guy is talking about sex like a mad man, then he exclaims "I tried being nice, not anymore, fuck you bitch you deserve an animal". This guy tells a girl she lives too far for his tastes, so she says it might not work out then, guy calls her names and tells her he hopes she dies alone. This guy goes on about how he's a good person on the inside while simultaneously being an obv…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/18 08:12 AM
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What is it that women ask of men? I was always under the impression in my relationships that the men asked for sex from me and I didn't ask for anything from them. Sure, sometimes they came to eat dinner with my parents, but I went to eat dinner with their parents too. There was no other expectation or demand.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/18 07:23 AM
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She did. This whole thing happened in like 30 minutes. That's how long it took her to "pull her head out of her naive ass". It's not that bad. And she did refuse penis-in-vagina so at least she had that amount of self-respect. I'm sure she will find a guy who will be more suited for her eventually.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/18 05:31 AM
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At least you drive them to the pharmacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/18 03:44 AM
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I thought you said you were done. No one is talking unilateral control over sex. It's about stopping when the woman says no. And the woman will stop if the man says no. There's no inequality. The power struggle is in your head. It's easy: if you want to have sex, ask, if the other says no, stop. Applies both ways. No one's interests are being disrespected.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/18 02:03 AM
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I understand how afraid women are to give a direct "yes," to avoid responsibility and not feel slutty. This is the manure you spread to grow your garden of sex opportunities. If the woman is 100% sure she wants to have sex with you, she will jump on you. The fact is you hope to have sex with women who are as little as 1% sure and that's why you hamster that women "are afraid to look slutty". Women aren't afraid to look slutty, they aren't sure having sex is a good idea, that's why they hesitate.…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/18 02:00 AM
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When all you say is "I don't wanna have sex" - there's no meaning there other than the exact literal meaning, which may or may not be true. Why "may or may not"? It just is!!! And if it is really true, then it begs the question of why do you not just walk out the door? Why else are you there? Do you expect to pursue some kind of relationship where you dole out sex like a dog treat? Why isn't the guy walking out the door if he wants sex and the girl says she doesn't want sex? Why else is he there…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/18 01:39 AM
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That doesn't come across like honesty and vulnerability, that comes across like trotting out a party line in order to manage expectations. No guy takes that bullshit seriously because they've all seen women contradict themselves on that a few hours later. More hamstering. "Words don't mean words because hamster hamster hamster mind reader hamster" any girl who says she doesn't want to have sex and refuses to communicate yet wants her wishes adhered to like some dictatorial fiat, well she gets he…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/18 01:17 AM
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Good mention of the post-ejaculation cold shoulder. A guy can be really sweet and attentive when he's horny and instantly flip to disdain and distance after sex. Another of the many joys of sex!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/18 01:16 AM
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"where do you want me to fuck you?" - "next time" - "oh you mean second date?" - "yeah" "Are you okay?" - "I don't want to feel forced because then I'll hate you and I'd rather not hate you" He kept pressuring her. He didn't do anything illegal, but he didn't need to be a "mind reader" to know she didn't want to have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/18 01:00 AM
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You keep trying to describe a different situation where the girl doesn't say anything or the guy has to ask what's wrong. It's not what I'm describing. I'm describing a situation where the girl says she doesn't want to have sex. She just said it. It's not a game. "I don't want to have sex" means "I don't want to have sex". It's disturbing the level of hamstering you do to justify ignoring it. "oh, I just don't want to have sex" and leave it like that...how's he supposed to take that. Could it be…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/18 12:50 AM
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I feel like we're not talking about the same thing. You keep saying "if only girls did communicated their sexual wishes clearly" and you seem to be talking about a hypothetical situation where the girl doesn't say anything to keep "power in a sexual situation". I can't picture that. The girl probably just doesn't want to have sex and you're imagining it's some kind of game. But what I'm talking about is a situation where the girl says "I don't want to have sex" on the first date and the guy says…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/18 12:09 AM
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I still don't think anyone is playing hard to get. It sounds like something that men made up to justify ignoring nos. A no is a no. Why do men keep going after hearing "I don't want to have sex"?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 05:40 PM
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He wanted to have sex and he failed ultimately. I don't think she should complain publicly, but she could complain privately.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 05:30 PM
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I don't see why it's a power play or manipulative. The girl said "let's have sex some other time, second date maybe". She just didn't feel comfortable having sex with him right then. It's not a game. If men stop when women are uncomfortable, they still have the same amount of sexual agency as women have because women also have to stop if the guy is uncomfortable.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 05:27 PM
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Yeah I understand what you mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 05:20 PM
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That's true, however, the slut is not harming anyone, she's giving sex to men who want it, without forcing them. The insistent dudes are at least hurting the women's feels and putting them through a bad time.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 05:07 PM
1

I suppose you're right. Maybe porn addiction was not well known back then.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 04:59 PM
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So? Everyone is a sum of their qualities. Another guy could have been less famous but more good looking and gotten the same result. The point is, Aziz Ansari's fame was not enough to get him sex that night. The girl didn't want to do, got roped into a sad blowjob, refused full intercourse and left crying. Not a success for Aziz Ansari. I would find that alarming if I believed it. You'd be surprised. Pretty much all the sex I've had was because I was too shy to say I wasn't into sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 04:54 PM
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I think it comes from surveys showing that 99.9% of men watch porn. So they don't exactly decide what is normal based on moral principles, they try to take the pulse of society and regurgitate reasonable advice. I'm sure they've got sexologists building sex ed curriculums too.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 04:52 PM
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But what if you're on a date (like hanging out at home) and you want the date/relationship to continue, but you don't want to have sex right now. If you say "I don't want to have sex", the guy will do like Aziz Ansari, he'll say "of course no problem we can just chill" and he'll try to shove his penis in your mouth.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 04:48 PM
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Canada. Why do you think it's misanthropic?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 04:30 PM
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And to think that ordinary men spend so much energy on sexual strategy when, even if they are as unattractive as Ansari, all they have to do is learn how to point to their dick! You consider this a win that he got a sad blowjob from an uncomfortable girl who wanted out and was too shy to say it? To me what Aziz Ansari obviously did not work as hoped.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 04:27 PM
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Do you differentiate between hard nos and soft nos?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 04:05 PM
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What message precisely? Is it "unified" or is it "conflicting"? Young men are confused about where they are getting their messages from and you can't blame that on feminism. For instance, on this sub you see people saying "why are feminists saying approaching is harassment but they are saying only men should do the approaching or they aren't 'real men'?". There's no part of feminism that says that second part of the statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 04:00 PM
11

That's kind of why the crazy person on the bus who talks to strangers is considered crazy. There's a context that's appropriate and there's an amount that's appropriate. "Only stop if she gives you a hard no" does not seem appropriate. Whether you're trying to make friends or get sex, you have to read your audience.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 03:52 PM
4

Why? Women don't exist to give you pleasure. You shouldn't have a fundamental right to annoy them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 03:41 PM
17

I don't see what's wrong with the message of don't do what Aziz Ansari did. It's basic politeness and it's not infringing on men's rights. I don't understand the men who are like "I was already too shy to approach women and now I'm even more scared!". If you were already too shy to approach women, this is not about you, you don't need to dial back. If you were behaving like Aziz Anzari, then you need to dial back.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 03:37 PM
3

Yeah if you're out* trying to have fun with your friends and people ask you for drinks it's incredibly rude.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 03:31 PM
2

Would she have even given him her phone number if she had met him at a party (that she was at with a date) if he hadn't been a celebrity? I'm sure this girl has gone on dates with non-celebs, yes. I really doubts she only dates people Aziz Ansari-famous or over. "When you're a star you can do anything...grab 'em by the pussy." Apparently she didn't like it even if he was a celebrity. Rape or not she dodged full intercourse and ultimately ran out of there crying.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 03:18 PM
4

In my high school's sex ed classes they told us all guys watch porn and masturbate so if we had a boyfriend we should expect him to be doing that and it's normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 12:42 PM
3

Yes, but that's just one of the positions of sex. It was his favorite position though, which fits with the explanation that he found sex was too much work because he had to move. But even planking for sex requires him to get off the computer and get undressed and it takes more time.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 12:34 PM
1

Wrong girl. If a guy ever brought me flowers I would have fallen head over heels for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 12:21 PM
4

I think it's more basic than that. To have sex he has to move his entire body or at least lay there for a while. Masturbating can be done with about as much ease as browsing the internet from the comfort of your chair.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 12:07 PM
2

I don't think watching different women feels like being with these women, but okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 12:07 PM
9

I had a boyfriend who preferred watching porn to having sex. He said it was just less work.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 08:37 AM
3

I know a lot of people who live together monogamously and raise kids in a normal home but who aren't married. That would just become the norm if no one wanted to marry anymore. I think it might already be the norm where I live.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 04:22 AM
0

You can, but expecting men to initiate is not feminist. For instance, I can be a feminist, yet when I brush my teeth it is not a feminist act or stance.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 04:17 AM
11

I agree with what you say, but there's something I want to say regarding the Aziz Ansari - random girl encounter. The girl didn't give him a blowjob because she had an impulse to do so, she gave him a blowjob because she yielded to him. This story illustrates that "sluts" don't necessarily act on aggressive impulses, they might in fact be sweet girls who are too submissive. But men here say submissive is good and slutty is bad, so they talk as if they couldn't coexist.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 03:30 AM
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Not a gender role.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 03:09 AM
1

Happily been with my hardcore feminist girlfriend for four years. She liked me for a year and I never knew. Her excuse: "I baked for you a lot. And I wore really tight jeans. And I always did my makeup when I knew I was going to see you. And I would laugh a lot at your jokes. You never got the hint!" Not what I would call a hardcore feminist! Baking, wearing sexy clothes and makeup, and waiting passively for him to make a move are NOT feminist things. She might be a hardcore feminist in her beli…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 01:34 AM
4

I took this from the incels website. Did you think I just googled a picture of a pretty girl randomly? Unlike men, I'm not making stuff up. They produce pictures of Chad themselves. This picture of this girl is what gets posted around incels.me as the type of women they would want to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/18 05:26 AM
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There's no difference. Imagine if everyone went around airing what celebrities are like in the bedroom.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/18 02:37 AM
1

It's definitely worse than 7 SD 0.3.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/18 02:22 AM
3

Even the incels think a woman is only this: https://i.pinimg.com/564x/45/5b/c8/455bc81dede74d3597fc82ab20c94a2a--pretty-face-beautiful-eyes.jpg
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/18 02:01 AM
3

Pretty girls are on top yes. Being married gets you points yes. Having a hot boyfriend of high status doesn't change anything no. Being a slut does not lose you points with other women either.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/18 01:49 AM
10

What's peaches and sea foam green? I think you overestimate the importance of being 18-22 and no guy was like omg you're 18-22 I love you so much more for that. In female social hierarchy I don't think other women care that you're 18-22 and I don't think women who are 18-22 feel like they are necessarily living the best years of their life.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/18 01:46 AM
5

There was a study where they analyze the rate of (male) violence and compared it to the gender ratio for various location. They found that when women outnumbered men, men were more violent. https://www.newscientist.com/article/2107806-men-are-more-violent-when-there-are-more-women-around/ This might reveal that instead of being "women like thugs" it might be that "men who receive female attention become thugs".
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 11:56 PM
2

I can see one of two reasons why she went home with him. She was hoping to have a good time with him and his idea of a good time was different than what she had in mind. This is an example of letting the man lead and hoping he leads you somewhere you want to be. Sadly he lead her to the claw. She was considering it ("I can do this, it's Aziz Ansari!"), but she choked at the last minute ("nope I can't!").
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 11:48 PM
3

You have a right to do what you want with your own body before other people's bodies. The right to not be touched and the right to touch others are not equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 09:37 PM
5

It's ridiculous to say "we can't ban groping because sometimes it works and we wouldn't want that guy to miss out on one sexual encounter!". I don't think 1 guy getting laid is more important than 99 women being made uncomfortable.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 09:35 PM
14

if the guy hadn't been so aggressive so as to grab her without asking, he probably wouldn't have had sex with her. And that would be a problem because...? The world isn't in need of more ill-considered bathroom hookups. What do we do about this? Stop grabbing people and live with the small loss of successful sexual encounters initiated by grabbings.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 02:58 PM
6

Why the convoluted premise? Why not just say two identical women, one marries a great guy, the other marries a less desirable partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 02:52 PM
3

She's not saying she wants to be with this guy, she's asking "since I felt so good meeting someone new, does it mean I'm not in love with my fiancé?". Solid neg, but she can't go switching boyfriends every time someone negs her.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 02:44 PM
5

I think if you kiss a guy he gets a boner so he does feel something. But I agree kissing a guy with a bear sounds gross (which I'm sorry to say because shaving every day must be pretty annoying).
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 01:37 PM
2

5 SD 3 would be better for finding a boyfriend and for standing out, but I think for vanity purposes I would choose to be a 7 - the general population would like me more.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 07:39 AM
1

What about when an 17-year-old guy hits on a 25-year-old woman? I don't think the woman would say he's creepy. She would say no thanks but you will make some girl very happy one day.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 03:40 AM
1

Yeah what you said was clear and I think it's true I've been able to take advantage of that in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 03:01 AM
1

Hard data? They didn't ask "who decided if the baby son gets circumcised". I'd bet the answer would be "the father and I do not have a say in this unless I'm SJW arguing AGAINST circumcision". Personal anecdotes? Who do you think built the medical practices in the US and decided circumcision would be standard? It was 100% men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 01:53 AM
3

It's the proof that you've made it as a normie and also weddings are portrayed as beautiful and romantic and "true love". If you're a girlfriend forever than I guess he just feels "meh" about you. Unless you have different views.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 01:31 AM
1

You're not going to convince me to blame circumcision on the women. The dad decides because he's the one with a penis. It's the one thing where he knows best. Also, the US culture regarding circumcision was totally decided by male founders and doctors and honestly you probably just got penetrated by powerful jews when US medical practices surrounding birth were being established. Where I live there's only 10% circumcision, but you see white women pleading with their African boyfriend to please n…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 12:39 AM
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That's only in the US and muslim countries and it's not required by law and it's a culture perpetrated by men onto their sons with male doctor advice or male religious leaders.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 12:15 AM
9

Hide hypnosis in porn videos.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 12:12 AM
7

Oh yeah same, my dad was really into getting my brothers into his interests like sports and nature. When my brothers turned him down and I turned out to be the most interested in that stuff, my dad was like oh never mind let's just not do it. I was in varsity sport too and no member of my family ever showed up.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 12:07 AM
2

It gives me hope that the reddit guy married Serena Williams. Obviously Serena Williams is independently wealthy, famous, awesome and incredible, but at least it proves that some men appreciate these sort of qualities.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 04:05 AM
1

No and I'm not a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 03:07 AM
1

Maybe it's me, but I don't like huge men. I like a more natural look.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 01:32 AM
0

You don't need to learn anything. You literally just have to move. Swim an hour a day in the morning or the evening and you have a guaranteed perfect male body. No PhD in macrogymming required.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 01:25 AM
6

That's not true. I went on that incels website that was linked here the other day and even the women that the incels talk about are the 1% beauties with perfectly feminine proportions and cute faces. As a teenager I was super muscular, like beefy arms and frame and thick neck, and there was not much I could do beside do my hair and look like a young drag queen. Muscles decrease a bit as you grow older, so that helps, but if you have a manly face with a big jaw, big nose and small eyes, that's on…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 01:21 AM
1

I disagree. Canada is Toronto. At least more than Newfoundland. Just a number's game. 26% of Canadians live in the Golden Horseshoe (around Toronto) and half of Canadians live in the Quebec City-Windsor Corridor (a much larger region, but still). I'd wager most Canadians have been to Toronto, but not to Newfoundland.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 01:09 AM
1

I don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 09:22 PM
1

No, no I haven't. Vancouver, Toronto, Montreal have some of the lowest obesity rates in the country and it's true the rate is higher in places like Saint John, St. John's and Saskatoon. But the observation remains that the younger, wealthier, more educated you are, the less likely you are to be overweight, so college campuses aren't the fattest places.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 09:21 PM
1

Only in poor parts of the US. In Canada, on a university campus where kids are wealthier and more educated than the rest of the population, there's virtually no overweight women. In 2014, 27.5% of Canadian women 18 and over were overweight. That's for all ages, and older people are much more likely to be overweight, so if you look at women under 30, there aren't many overweight women, and they are concentrated in the poor parts of a city anyway. Source This amateur video of "normal" Americans pl…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 09:08 PM
23

I had two older brothers constantly telling me I sucked, girls sucked, anything girly sucked. In primary school the first time my friends became friends with guys we watched American Pie and that was the guy's favorite movie. A lot of the movie we watched around that time period were centered on the same theme. In sports, no one cares about the women unless it's something pretty like figure skating and gymnastics (men are better at these things too so it's not just because men are better in the …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 09:00 PM
4

I'm not even the one who started a thread to warn women about red pill men, I was just refuting the OP. I think red pill men are too obvious to worry about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 09:49 AM
11

I think when it comes to branch swinging there is no difference. If a man has a crappy girlfriend and a better woman wants to be his new girlfriend, he'll take it, or he'll ask himself the same questions ("should I stay for the kids?", "am I a terrible person if I leave her after she stuck with me through my cancer?", etc.). The thing is that for most people better options who want to be with you don't happen very often. In fact if you go straight home after work it might never happen in your en…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 09:48 AM
8

It doesn't matter what I think, I was just saying that saying beware of AWALT is not the same as saying beware of red pill guys. Red pill guys write themselves that they are trying to take advantage of women. It's fair enough to say watch out for that. Women aren't AWALT so it's not fair, in my point of view, to say watch out for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 08:50 AM
4

IT'S A DORA THE EXPLORER REFERENCE.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 08:46 AM
7

That's not AWALT. Everyone is free to leave one person for another, that applies to men too. The point is that I've always strictly dated men who let themselves go, had no job, weren't sexually attractive, didn't groom themselves, and had little ambition or future or talents or interests. I've never bathed in male attention and none of my female friends have. None of my female friends date men who are better than themselves either.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 08:45 AM
8

Actually, I misspoke. I find there is no truth at all in AWALT.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 08:03 AM
2

When a guy is illegitimately called a creep (which happens a lot) at a party or bar, and a girl shouts this out and other girls hear Never seen it happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 08:00 AM
8

I find there is next to no truth in AWALT.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 07:51 AM
1

2) Sometimes you prioritize a man and it screws you over. Ability to prioritize a man is not the problem. 6) The guy will break up with you (different than number 2, at least that one sets you free).
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 07:47 AM
10

If he's given it some thought and decided that the red pill philosophy was something he agrees with, then yes, for some people, that is enough to make him bad. You know the problem with AWALT isn't that AWALT women aren't bad, it's that AWALT isn't true.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 07:30 AM
14

Not that much different than when you complain about the term AWALT being a form of paranoia. Totally different. AWALT is assume all women act the same. Beware of red pillers is beware of a few men with extreme beliefs. Avoid them and keep dating the majority of men who aren't red pill. you're not going to be able to tell he's Red Pilled. Why bother trying? Maybe you will? Not everybody is the cleverest swiping Swiper. Why bother trying? Are red pillers so impenetrable? you care if he read sexis…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 07:21 AM
8

Except "creepy" is a real adjective that means something or someone unpleasant who makes you feel uneasy. So that's it, literally, it's when the guy is being unpleasant or makes you feel uneasy. It's not a slur nor is it made-up.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 01:06 AM
1

I'm not attractive enough for people to want to be my friend in my every day life, but people still treat me with kindness.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/18 08:03 AM
1

I'm not sure about the examples he uses. Not crying when you're a kid - everyone is told not to cry because others will call you a baby and make fun of you, it's not just men, it's part of growing up. Emailing your dad when you're stuck and need help and getting told to just do it yourself - parents reply the same thing to their daughters. But it's true that women can cry at funerals and are less likely to commit suicide.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/18 07:24 AM
1

Saying, "I love you." is a great way to get single. Commitment is a great way to get single. Dedicating yourself to a woman is a huge signal to a woman that she can do better. So displaying loyalty or even admiration to a woman is a huge mistake. Behaving mopey or looking sad or disappointed is a great way to get single. You are not allowed to be depressed or even disappointed. Showing signs of anger is a great way to get single. Absolutely nothing that irritates you or even annoys you can be ex…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/18 07:14 AM
1

I had a friend who said our local Chad was with him waiting in line for a hot dog and he turned around to a girl and said "if you like sausages, how about my dick in your mouth?" and supposedly it worked. That Chad wasn't even good-looking, and he was a school reject in high school, he just decided to fake confidence in university and spit the craziest lines all the time and he was always hooking up. To be fair, he was operating in nerd town so the competition for craziest lines wasn't fierce.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/18 02:42 AM
1

Wow your grammar is awful. Since your post was a request for personal advice, I gave you a personal advice. Sorry if it is mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/18 12:04 AM
4

I disagree that most people are shitty and therefore I disagree that most women are shitty. Everyone is kind in my bubble, but I've also traveled and I've encountered kind people everywhere. So many shady taxi drivers in third world countries could have tried to steal from me when I was alone in the middle of the night, but the vast majority of people are just normal people trying to live their life and they are probably just as worried of being robbed. Men in hotels sometimes tried something se…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/18 11:20 PM
1

Should you even be allowed to raise a daughter when you confuse "they're" and "their"?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/18 11:03 PM
3

Are BPD chicks considered magnetic and charming here? Also, by the number of men who claim to have dated BPD chicks, is BPD used loosely to designate any woman who acts emotional? I think I've talked to a couple of BPD men on reddit and it was hard just to have a conversation. They started by berating me in pms, then when I didn't get mad at their berating me they started loading me with praise and saying I was the perfect human being, then when I said something wrong like "The Big Lebowski is n…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/18 11:00 PM
5

When a 6-year-old boy says he's in love with his babysitter and wants to marry her people just laugh it off and understand it's not actually going to happen. Are these teenagers so predatory that they can't be shrugged off? Would you say it's creepy when a 17-year-old boy hits on a 25-year-old woman? I think she would just tell her friends "aww that is so cute".
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/18 06:36 PM
1

It was also the extreme of political correctness.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/18 05:55 AM
0

My sex ed classes taught us about emotional abuse. A bunch of mummers came to do sketches where the girl was like "how do I look in this?" and the guy replied "you look like you're wearing the fucking curtains! and by the way you've gotten fat!". Of course they had an equal amount where the woman was the aggressor. I think they should teach consent phrases now. https://medium.com/athena-talks/consent-phrases-1ddfb035e7ac
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/18 02:35 AM
0

No, for being that desperate and embarrassing himself. What I've been describing all along. Just reread my comments instead of trying to make me say something else because that's what you would like to argue about.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/18 01:59 AM
0

She doesn't even want to see him. She just wants a proof for her friends because he's a movie star. Normal. He is a grown man and has no excuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/18 01:42 AM
0

To me he sounds like he's desperately struggling to find pussy. He can't even say no to this girl who's negging him and trolling him. But there's no way finding pussy can be hard for him unless he's strictly trying to get them just legal. She sounds like a normal 17-year-old.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/18 01:12 AM
4

In medicine, they are making hiring quotas for men because men don't have good enough grades to get in. Sorry for explaining it, but you asked "from fucking what exactly", so I answered that question.
/r/MGTOW10/01/18 11:43 PM
3

I think marriage with no financial implications could work. For some people, marriage is still of ceremonial importance... making the beginning of your shared life and becoming a family, partying with your friends in honor of this happy event, plus the feelings of love. We can't take away people's fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/18 10:34 PM
1

Maybe it's because I'm in Quebec. I can't tell you exactly how I was filtering. I think I was a mid twenties heterosexual woman looking for men in their twenties.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/18 10:28 PM
-1

Hahahano.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/18 09:58 PM
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