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| 1 | Proof that Elliot Rodger Hates MenOk, let's take David Berkowitz as an example. It is commonly accepted by experts that misogyny was his primary motivation for killing. He killed men and women. Does that mean the experts are wrong? That, because men were killed also that misogyny cannot be considered a motive? | /r/MensRights | 29/05/14 10:44 PM |
| 1 | Proof that Elliot Rodger Hates MenIn no way does calling this event misogynistic diminish the deaths of the men. If I go out to shoot gophers in my garden out of my hatred for gophers and shoot a rabbit in the process, my hatred for gophers does not diminish the death of the rabbit, does it? Nor does it make me a hater of rabbits or a hater of all furry animals in my yard. | /r/MensRights | 29/05/14 07:23 PM |
| 1 | Proof that Elliot Rodger Hates MenThe entire premise of this discussion has been proving the motivation behind the killings, not an exchange of opinions on the value of the lives that were lost. My firm belief that misogyny was the prime motivating factor, in no way, diminishes the tragedy of each victim's demise. They were all human and equal to me. It is you, not I, that seems to think that the deaths of the men are somehow less awful or less important if they were committed by a misogynist in a plot to take out his revenge on… | /r/MensRights | 29/05/14 07:03 PM |
| 1 | Proof that Elliot Rodger Hates MenThe women's deaths are in no way more tragic or unfortunate, but they were misogynist. In fact all of the killings were. His hatred of women was the motivating factor in the entire plot. | /r/MensRights | 29/05/14 06:25 PM |
| 1 | Proof that Elliot Rodger Hates MenYou are somehow thinking you can decide what someone else actually believes rather than what they profess. That is as illogical as me deciding that you do not believe any of what you just wrote. As for misogyny, there is nothing in that definition that says one can't kill their roommates, regardless of gender and not still be a misogynist. Nothing. And he did kill women. It's also impossible for us to know if the guy he shot was actually his target. We have no reason to believe he was skilled at… | /r/MensRights | 29/05/14 05:32 PM |
| 1 | Proof that Elliot Rodger Hates MenUnder your overly broad definition, any schizophrenic, rambling nutjob can claim to have an ideology. That isn't overly broad definition. Ideology does not require sanity in any way, only belief. My examples were chosen to cover a broad range of crazy that does indeed have an ideology behind it. As for the rest of your argument, you are using a great deal of supposition that has no proof in order to come to your conclusions. Also, any of the possibilities that you've offered to suggest that Rodg… | /r/MensRights | 29/05/14 02:15 PM |
| 1 | Proof that Elliot Rodger Hates MenSo now you know, right? People who say things like that are viable threats. | /r/MensRights | 29/05/14 06:02 AM |
| -1 | Proof that Elliot Rodger Hates MenFirst, any system of belief is an ideology. There is no suggestion of coherence, whatsoever. Hitler had an ideology, so did Jim Jones, so does Al-Queda. Second, I've quoted from Roger's epilogue. His very own summation of his very own story- his final thoughts immediately before he set his plan in place. This is the explanation he leaves us with, after he claims to have sorted out his motivations and pinpointing the root of his acts. He tells us it's women. All of them. If you find more profundi… | /r/MensRights | 29/05/14 05:09 AM |
| -1 | Proof that Elliot Rodger Hates MenIdeologies are reserved for sane people?? Exclusively?? You can't be serious. He indeed had an ultimate, final ideology: http://news.rapgenius.com/Elliot-rodger-my-twisted-world-the-story-of-elliot-rodger-epilogue-annotated | /r/MensRights | 29/05/14 04:19 AM |
| -1 | Proof that Elliot Rodger Hates MenHe wanted to exterminate women and preserve the world for men. From his epilogue, his ultimate wish: "In fully realizing these truths about the world, I have created the ultimate and perfect ideology of how a fair and pure world would work. In an ideal world, sexuality would not exist. It must be outlawed. In a world without sex, humanity will be pure and civilized. Men will grow up healthily, without having to worry about such a barbaric act. All men will grow up fair and equal, because no man … | /r/MensRights | 29/05/14 03:54 AM |
| -1 | Proof that Elliot Rodger Hates MenHave you read his ultimate ideology? It says nothing about destroying men, only women. He actually decides that any faults in men are caused by women. Without women, the world would be perfect. He may have shown exasperation for men in some online posts, but he reserved his unforgiving hatred for women. Edit: clarity. | /r/MensRights | 29/05/14 03:32 AM |
| -1 | Proof that Elliot Rodger Hates MenHe also wrote that he wanted to rid the planet of all women (except a few in confinement for breeding purposes,) so that it would be a sexless Eden for men. The only problem with men were the women that they were attracted to. | /r/MensRights | 29/05/14 01:55 AM |
| 1 | Proof that Elliot Rodger Hates MenIndeed they do. And they aren't regarded as a legitimate threat. I'm wondering what made this particular comment seem so threatening. | /r/MensRights | 28/05/14 07:50 PM |
| 5 | Proof that Elliot Rodger Hates MenI'm curious. If you knew about this way ahead of time, and took it as a legitimate threat against men, did you take any action? | /r/MensRights | 28/05/14 03:46 PM |
| 1 | European press not buying the Elliot Rodger MRA hysteriaI'd be happy to discuss this further if you take the time to read the document. | /r/MensRights | 27/05/14 11:23 AM |
| 1 | European press not buying the Elliot Rodger MRA hysteriaYou really need to read his manifesto to discuss this in context. I base my entire assessment of what happened on his personal account of his life and his confessed plans. It is you that are blurring your preconceived notions with fact. | /r/MensRights | 27/05/14 05:15 AM |
| 2 | European press not buying the Elliot Rodger MRA hysteriaThe guy had only recently learned how to operate a car and gotten the courage to walk downstairs in the dark. He couldn't manage to sit in a classroom with an attractive woman. Maybe he was terrified at actually having to face one of the objects of his hate and decided to hide in the bushes and kill them that way. He never put real effort and planning into anything he did, much less follow through. It was part of his personality flaw. It's not a big surprise that he was half-assed in his "Retrib… | /r/MensRights | 27/05/14 04:48 AM |
| 2 | European press not buying the Elliot Rodger MRA hysteriaHe was a worthless coward throughout his entire life and nearly everything he did was "silly" in a sense. His biggest accomplishment was checking lotto numbers. The fact is, he tried to get in (as he fantasized about in his writings,) and failed. Who knows what went wrong, or why he chose to give up. Instead he chose to shoot the girls in their yard. | /r/MensRights | 27/05/14 04:07 AM |
| 1 | Am I taking crazy pills!? 4 of 6 victims in Santa Barbara shooting are men, but the media frames it as some sort of mysoginistic killing with all women as victims?!When did he say he wanted to kill all the men? In the manifesto he said he wanted to kill all women (except for a select few to be held captive for breeding purposes) but preserve the men for a utopian society of sexless gentlemen. | /r/MensRights | 27/05/14 01:44 AM |
| 3 | European press not buying the Elliot Rodger MRA hysteriaHe tried to enter the sorority house, but they wouldn't let him in. He then hid in the shadows and waited for the girls to come out, shooting three of them. | /r/MensRights | 26/05/14 06:07 PM |
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