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Red Pill Theoryplayingwithfyre/r/TheRedPill26/08/16 11:11 PM
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Red Pill Theoryplayingwithfyre/r/TheRedPill28/07/16 08:00 PM
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CMVplayingwithfyre/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/16 06:47 PM
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CMVplayingwithfyre/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/16 04:48 PM
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Question for RedPillplayingwithfyre/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 06:34 PM
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Question for BluePillplayingwithfyre/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/16 05:00 PM
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playingwithfyre/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 09:38 PM
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playingwithfyre/r/TheRedPill06/07/16 06:40 PM
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Blue Pill Exampleplayingwithfyre/r/TheRedPill03/08/16 05:54 PM
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"How many guys do you think she's been with?" Oh, she probably doesn't even know. "How many guys have you been with?" Fuck you.
/r/TheRedPill24/08/17 04:53 PM
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For sure. Lot's of them are just there for validation. If you can be sure it's a validation type dude, no worries. DHV basically.
/r/TheRedPill24/08/17 04:51 PM
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No you just don't understand what a "3" is. Very 4chanish but gets the point across. https://2ch.hk/b/arch/2017-04-04/src/150203316/14912486902640.jpg
/r/TheRedPill24/08/17 04:46 PM
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If you think you see a "3" with a girl that isn't handicapped or deformed the problem isn't "rating systems" its that you're incapable of aggregating or approximating attractiveness.
/r/TheRedPill24/08/17 01:48 PM
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Don't get married, only have a kid with someone that makes a lot more money than you. Make sure she has a strong maternal drive and is a caring person. But still don't marry her. FYI I am not married and that was a good choice.
/r/TheRedPill29/06/17 08:10 PM
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It's not really linkable. The best way I can explain it is this. 90% of material on this stuff is PUA. All the LTR stuff is really an afterthought. But if you read for instance MRP or anything that is LTR focused, the responses to "comfort tests" are way way different. What I experience in a 10 year relationship I would never ever, in a million years, expect in the field. Which is why I think it's more accurately a "reverse congruence test." To be honest, she's not actually looking for comfort. …
/r/TheRedPill29/06/17 07:32 PM
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Yes, that's actually what I'm addressing. You've conflated a comfort test (which is an LTR thing) with a comfort shit test, which is a game thing. I consider that a poor naming schema by heartiste. You could call it better, a reverse congruence test. An actual comfort test in an LTR requires the things he's talking about avoiding (because they're game killers).
/r/TheRedPill29/06/17 06:36 PM
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That's not a comfort test, she's calibrating and testing frame. It's still a shit test. The beta response is some subtext or overt "you're beautiful." To pass the shit test, you call her out for fishing for comfort\compliments. You fail a real comfort test when you actually don't provide her with real comfort, a hug, compliment etc. If a woman is asking for comfort within minutes of meeting, that is not a comfort test. And if it's not a shit test, then it's still not a comfort test. You have to …
/r/TheRedPill29/06/17 06:24 PM
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Comfort test: She needs to know you think she is good enough for you This is incorrect. A comfort test is actually testing reciprocity. She's trading sex for at least the illusion of commitment.
/r/TheRedPill29/06/17 05:54 PM
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"Became a lesbian." Either you're gay, bi or not. Anyone that "becomes gay" is a mess and has no idea who they are.
/r/TheRedPill29/06/17 05:44 PM
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It is I think more of a stage. You start there and end in a state of disillusionment. Knowing there isn't really a solution to the problem. I know lots of guys say "enjoy the decline" but if you are at all a family guy, you can't help but be disappointed at the death of the nuclear family.
/r/TheRedPill29/06/17 05:43 PM
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So no. Well alright then, good luck with your "everything but math is bullshit science" angle.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/17 11:55 PM
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Yes, it's a measurement system. And do the people who do that kind of research consider a heart valve do that? No. How about you just admit you're wrong, hey?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/17 11:19 PM
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You do realize mathematics is a human construct right? It's a system of measurement. Are you really going to claim someone putting decades of research into the inner workings of the body is somehow less of a scientist because they aren't working out equations that may not even be relevant to the real world?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/17 09:57 PM
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There is, it's "remain genderless." But actually, if you think about it, the policy needs to be rewritten as "post as if you are a man." This is the first comment like this I'm not reporting. Line walking, but only because the policy isn't written properly to account for this.
/r/TheRedPill10/05/17 08:08 PM
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Why not plate? I highly doubt he completely vacated all of his feelings and attraction to her. And while it's nice he's in a place to do that, there really is no reason he shouldn't have played hard to get. He's still being blue pill because in his mind she can only be a friend or a serious love interest. And he was to my reading, in her frame. This story gives the illusion of frame, but to me it read like a guy that wanted to feel that he had triumphed. Which is great, but what does he really g…
/r/TheRedPill19/10/16 07:12 PM
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DEER
/r/MarriedRedPill15/10/16 09:55 PM
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Classic comfort test. That being said you're going to have to either lie about whether you'll want them eventually, do a short term stall or end the relationship.
/r/MarriedRedPill15/10/16 09:55 PM
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Gonna need some stories of this nuclear hamster you were fucking, sounds like there should be plenty.
/r/TheRedPill13/10/16 02:42 PM
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It was more than one dating site, and data doesn't lie. Just because people don't overtly state it, doesn't mean it isn't true. That is the purpose of my replies.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/16 10:22 PM
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http://i.imgur.com/2MstAzl.gif
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/16 09:51 PM
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I don't believe public opinion has really changed to be honest with you. Most people consider his behavior impeachable. Public officials are held to a higher standard, and the president is held to the highest standard. Getting your dick sucked in the oval office and lying about it is basically about as high up as you can go in "shit you shouldn't do as president." Right next to "snorting lines of coke off a hooker's ass."
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 02:27 PM
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Disregards the influence of systemic worship and passes given to women. You may be right, but the influence of these things pervert good and evil in bad and horrible ways. But I otherwise agree with you that neither genetics or upbringing have a gender bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/16 03:07 AM
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Let's be real here, he never stood a chance. No one but the chosen ones ever do. It's simply the illusion of choice. The same candidate has been in office for a long long time. You can change their gender, their skin color, their party affiliation. But no matter what, one thing never changes. "More for them, less for us." Anyone that doesn't subscribe to that notion by way of overt towing of the line is at best, given a rope to hang themselves. Credit to George Carlin in concept.
/r/TheRedPill08/10/16 12:06 AM
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Generally a huge fan of Rollo, but his thinking that women will ever hand birth control to men is HUGELY flawed. You can't on one hand recognize that one of the largest biological influences to mate choice is the fact that you have to choose someone who will stick around, in terms of planning your family (this is distinctly separate from total n-count) then assume women will take the risk and pass on responsibility to men. Will there be instances of it happening, sure, but widespread, no way. It…
/r/TheRedPill08/10/16 12:00 AM
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she slips an ILY while saying goodbye. http://static2.businessinsider.com/image/52a22d6e6da8112419a704c4-480/leonardo-dicaprio-wolf-of-wall-street.png
/r/TheRedPill06/10/16 01:03 AM
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In their defense, that would pull bigger numbers than he was. I mean we all know its Carlos Mencia v. woman, but whatever.
/r/TheRedPill05/10/16 12:04 PM
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RemindMe! 3 days "Shit testing hamsters"
/r/TheRedPill03/10/16 06:00 PM
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So in other-words, innate shit testers.
/r/TheRedPill03/10/16 05:59 PM
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You're missing the point, your callers should be the show. No one needs the sidebar in verbal format. Can't make your callers wait 3 dates for your man pussy, give it up Stacey.
/r/TheRedPill03/10/16 05:12 PM
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Yeah well I tuned in last time, it was absolute garbage. Just warning people that it's a huge waste of time, and that the claims that they'll "get to some callers" are mostly BS. They don't want to talk to anyone, just like you say, hit the megaphone. Just read the sidebar verbatim then. Be honest about it.
/r/TheRedPill03/10/16 03:42 PM
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Obsidian is absolute garbage, don't waste your time. Reference last weeks thread with ROLLO.
/r/TheRedPill03/10/16 02:41 PM
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Anyone that is saying that is misrepresenting the TRP position. The TRP position is not that women are innately immature. It's that there is a systemic reason behind it. To argue that there is a biological reason behind it would be absurd. It all comes down to how the SMP works and how society needs blue pill conditioning to keep violence at an absolute minimum.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/16 01:29 AM
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Do you not understand the INTENSE irony of this statement? This is the entire point of the statement "women are children." Since they are absolved of responsibility in most situations, they remain in a permanent childlike state.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/16 01:05 AM
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So I can get my 13 year old bride? Because of the average lifespan of previous generations?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/16 11:33 PM
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Another thing is that TRP clearly states that women are mentally children, yet it also says that women stop maturing at 18. I never understood this contradiction, as 18 years old are not children. Are you like 20 years old? And do you understand what a generalization is? Are you claiming they are not "legally children" or what? 18 year olds are dumb as fuck. I wouldn't trust an 18 year old do to do anything with any serious amount of responsibility and insight.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/16 03:16 PM
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KPIs, gender discriminatory?
/r/TheRedPill30/09/16 03:01 PM
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To realize your comment is incorrect, please RE: Elon Musk.
/r/TheRedPill29/09/16 06:18 PM
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36yr old dentist with no kids who has control issues. Danger will robinson. Be clear about boundaries, she's on the hunt for a victim.
/r/TheRedPill28/09/16 05:05 PM
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Definitely wasn't your fault, I heard you get talked over a ton. That being said, I slugged out 90 minutes for you. I believe that makes me an orbiter.
/r/TheRedPill24/09/16 06:38 PM
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Company picnic : How not to do it by OP
/r/TheRedPill24/09/16 03:44 PM
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All I'm saying is that I will certainly never listen to another 90 minute RP101 "livestream." There was nothing of value in this, nothing. This was the lowest level discussion, with obsidian just blaring over everyone, not providing IMO any real new content. I joined right when the show started, pressed 1 to get in line and listened PAINFULLY waiting for good content, but sloshed through it to be able to actually have a thought provoking discussion with one of the grandfathers of RP. No. And eve…
/r/TheRedPill24/09/16 12:25 AM
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Duuuuude. Answered two calls!? Fuck you, wasted 90 minutes of my life.
/r/TheRedPill23/09/16 09:52 PM
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Open up your chat and answer your callers god damnit.
/r/TheRedPill23/09/16 08:51 PM
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They gots a name for that Juels, it's call a loser. You’re gonna be like those pieces of shit out there who stay up all night serving the capitalist agenda or intellectually jerking themselves off. They walk around like a bunch of fuckin’ zombies and dogs piss on ’em. They got a word for ’em, they’re called losers. And without pussy, a bachelor pad, or legal tender, that’s what you’re gonna be – a fuckin’ loser!
/r/TheRedPill23/09/16 07:44 PM
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It's not legislation, but government approval that will be the issue IMO.
/r/TheRedPill23/09/16 07:41 PM
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The real likely barrier won't be social, it will be government approval. They'll figure out a way to reject it. I personally think there is a reason the big bio-companies aren't on this like stink on shit. They know it'll never get approved here. One of the largest breakthroughs in sexual health and Parsemus Foundation, a not-for-profit organization, owns the IP? Come on. There's a reason why Pfiser isn't on this.
/r/TheRedPill23/09/16 07:39 PM
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This is 100% me, I meant naivety. Spelling error on my part.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 03:02 AM
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I'm sorry but I can no longer debate you because your semantic understanding of linguistics and debate is too poor. It would require too much effort to frame it in a way that you could comprehend without misinterpreting things. I honestly, without trying to be a dick, would recommend you watch\read some information on things like hyperbole, euphemisms, etc. Then tell me how relationships last into old age at all? Nativity and SMV disparity.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 02:18 AM
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Is it so wrong to believe there are more special snowflakes than what TRP proposes ? Yes. What you are describing is called a "unicorn." And everyone has their story of a "unicorn" proving AWALT. In fact, what you're proposing is unconditional love. I mean, I just dislike the way red pill looks at it as such a black and white problem. It's not at all black and white. It's a very very in depth understanding of the mechanics and structuring your life around the system of those mechanics in a way t…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 01:44 PM
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I am seemingly having to speak to you as a child already (to mods, I am speaking literally, not pejoratively). And I don't believe I am doing this because you "don't understand." The fact that you literally can not comprehend a reality where you would not be interested in your SO, shows you are solipsistic and lack agency. This is of course well understood. Your comment is the actual embodiment of "she loves you for how you make her feel." Because in this comment, you can't comprehend another re…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 01:13 PM
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I find it rather boring their "truth" and "knowledge" boils down to nothing more than general observations with little insight into a person's true being This is the essence of what people refer to as "special snowflake syndrome." People's motivations and behaviors are fairly consistent when put under a lens. That is the inspiration for rules and system design. Redpill is just an understanding of the system and expected behaviors given certain circumstances. From that, you can expect certain out…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 01:59 AM
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This is why you don't understand RP. When these statements are made they aren't statements that "100.00% of women, everywhere, all the time, will do this thing." I can't comprehend how someone can read this stuff and not understand that it's a guide to general behavior. Like "if you don't ask for a raise, you'll never get one." That doesn't LITERALLY mean you'll NEVER get one. It means that you PROBABLY or MIGHT NOT, and that you want to increase your chance of getting a raise by asking. But you…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 01:37 AM
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There are edge cases, I always forget that blue\purple pill requires a disclaimer with every statement. But for the vast majority of couples, she is the gatekeeper.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 12:24 AM
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No, they're saying the same thing. Unless your bodies are free game to eachother, without reservation, the idea that you are both "the gatekeeper" and equal is bullshit. When women say they're in an "equal relationship" yet are "the gatekeeper" they are in fact in control of the relationship. So when most women say they want to be in an "equal relationship" they really mean they want to be in control. Just covertly.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/16 11:55 PM
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Conceptually, if your relationship is "equal" that just means she's in control. If you're "the gatekeeper" and you're "equal" that's not equal now is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/16 11:44 PM
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Someone needs to watch Dear Zachary and edit their post.
/r/TheRedPill19/09/16 05:36 PM
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Cooking is legit. Candles... ehhh. Have you ever cooked for a woman? If you can manage logistics it's pretty far up there.
/r/TheRedPill14/09/16 07:57 PM
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Your head is in it wrong. Even if you had kids with her, chemically, this will get you were you need to be. Oneitus is an intended design flaw of the socioconstruct.
/r/TheRedPill14/09/16 06:05 PM
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Over at RPW they're pretty honest with themselves. It's refreshing to say the least. I only half believe that subreddit isn't just RPers living out marriage 1.0 fantasies.
/r/TheRedPill14/09/16 05:57 PM
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Masochistic tendencies, social brainwashing and lack of a strong father figure to inform me. It's only once I got much older I could see lots of guys got it and picked the right girls. And they aren't the extroverted and passionate types. These guys went on to have successful families. They got it. The other guys... well.. not so much. For instance, drunkgirl69, if I'm to take your name at face value, would be the kind of girl I'm attracted to. But now, only much later in life I realize is "for …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 05:40 PM
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I am attracted to these things, but I also understand this woman would make a poor wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 01:32 PM
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This post is naive optimism that doesn't address some of the real honest ball blasting difficulty of having kids, lots of hamster here man.
/r/TheRedPill08/09/16 01:17 PM
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Semantics, however you want to phase "feels emotions as a primary drive."
/r/TheRedPill05/09/16 12:21 PM
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It's actually something like 70% have lower income.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/16 02:31 PM
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Which is why it's bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/16 10:51 PM
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If this were true, neither sub would exist. We would all be to busy fucking.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/16 07:00 PM
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This is also a great way to tell if a woman is anything but a cum receptacle. Most women, when you leave that gap open, will fill it by talking about themselves.
/r/TheRedPill02/09/16 06:22 PM
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Women are just on the whole more socially intelligent (due to the mechanics of intersexual matching) and being left brain centric, they are oft better at detecting what many men don't pick up on.
/r/TheRedPill02/09/16 06:20 PM
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Truth is always harder to swallow than fiction.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/16 06:13 PM
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Are his balls drained and is his stomach full, if so, does he still have a problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/16 03:28 PM
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You need a business partner ;) What's your vertical\niche?
/r/TheRedPill01/09/16 05:10 PM
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I think this is best responded to through an economic decision analysis. You have two candidates to promote with equal skill sets being paid an identical wage. One of them is revered by those they work with, the other is "divisive," which do you choose? Now let's make it a little more realistic. You have two candidates for a promotion, both are roughly equivalent in competency, but one of them will be "difficult" to work with and is divisive. Who do you promote? You have two employees, one being…
/r/TheRedPill01/09/16 05:09 PM
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You missed the part of bonding genuinely. If you can't enjoy being around people you'll fail. This is basically HTWF&IP V.Corporate
/r/TheRedPill01/09/16 04:03 PM
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You don't differentiate female and male mangers. Because there is no need. The principle of being liked is more important than competence dictates that you play to their game. If she's a soccer mom, you talk about your kids. If he's a soccer guy, you talk about the upcoming game. Or just keep your head down and stay in the position you're in.
/r/TheRedPill01/09/16 03:49 PM
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What you're looking for is a number of topics on "inner game." You have low self esteem and are lost. You need a series of goals to work towards a bigger goal of being someone you want to be, that represents a greater you.
/r/TheRedPill01/09/16 03:26 PM
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mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm THIRDWAVED!
/r/TheRedPill01/09/16 11:36 AM
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It's all still shaking out.
/r/TheRedPill31/08/16 01:10 AM
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I would agree with a lot of simps. But guys that have a head on their shoulder are usually pretty introspective. I created a thread on PPD to see if such a thing was even possible in reverse, and that thread turned me so god damn red.
/r/TheRedPill30/08/16 05:41 AM
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B-E-A-UTIFUL
/r/TheRedPill30/08/16 01:41 AM
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If your company treats KPIs like popups, you've got better places to be.
/r/TheRedPill28/08/16 11:34 PM
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I did a quick google search and saw more than a number of mentions say about 4300 years old.
/r/TheRedPill28/08/16 09:16 PM
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I took it to read as he cheated on her.
/r/TheRedPill28/08/16 06:30 PM
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What I'm trying to point out is that when people did it in the 80s, it was controversial, it was "anti-establishment" it was... masculine. Now we laugh at it. We'll laugh at this. This too shall pass.
/r/TheRedPill28/08/16 03:46 PM
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That is still cringey and doesn't seem genuine. Bringing up mountain dew to a gamer is very generic. Wouldn't Adam catch on that you're only trying to get that piece of info from him? This is the basis of rapport. Spending time talking to someone about something that is beside your goal. And building on that to form a genuine relationship. I can pick out the "how to win friends" people at my work when they try to get chummy and then finally reveal what they actually want from me. You're not play…
/r/TheRedPill28/08/16 02:43 PM
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The 80s would like a word with you. http://awkwardstuff.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Twisted-Sister-The-Price-Awkward-Stuff1.jpg
/r/TheRedPill28/08/16 01:51 PM
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As unpopular as this post is, I agree.
/r/TheRedPill27/08/16 11:14 PM
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What things if you don't mind me asking?
/r/TheRedPill27/08/16 10:11 PM
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It's really not petty. I consider it a shit test.
/r/TheRedPill27/08/16 07:26 PM
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Which you can only get away with if you've recently earned cred. Something that's SO easy to fall into. It's to me, the equivalent of "rewarding yourself" when dieting and you eat 6000 calories, then remember how great food is when you don't care and then BAM. That's that.
/r/TheRedPill27/08/16 07:13 PM
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You can add it and rebrand it ;) Anything you've been meaning to write about you want me to try my hand at?
/r/TheRedPill27/08/16 06:12 PM
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You become a rockstar through social or merit basis and then use that as an opportunity to brag, slack or otherwise fuck up the advantage you just got.
/r/TheRedPill27/08/16 05:48 PM
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I did post about this with the person that came in here and said this post was rough. The reality is you're right, all futures point to automation, upper management or service. I'm putting all my efforts into building my capital around "the management of automation." Basically managing the process to automating. Still doesn't change anything about my post IMO. What we're talking about is more "market research" and planning around that. But from an execution standpoint you still need to use the p…
/r/TheRedPill27/08/16 02:00 PM
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Yes, this post agrees with you. The way to mitigate that is to have genuine connections with everyone and to be discreet about showing your competence (show this up the pole, not around you). Don't get me wrong, some people just want to loath in self pity and will hate you no matter what. Your job is to document how shitty they are and have it rain hammers on them.
/r/TheRedPill27/08/16 01:55 PM
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They may not love them, but they don't hate them either. This + rapport + discreet mastery = The guy everyone loves and claps for when he's promoted.
/r/TheRedPill27/08/16 01:52 PM
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You should while you're building your employment capital focus on what the company is bringing to you in terms of experience. But in general, avoid extremely small companies unless you're being given huge responsibility you can learn from. Like a hop from management to executive. Then you'd use that to hop to junior executive at a large firm. Use your gut. Most companies will give you a reason to leave if you give them enough time.
/r/TheRedPill27/08/16 01:51 PM
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Yes, i did reply to a post somewhere in here about that. This post is mainly targeted at middle management. But it really applies across the board. Everything is a game.
/r/TheRedPill27/08/16 01:48 PM
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I was willing to drive or move. Do that while you can, once you have a family your options are greatly restricted.
/r/TheRedPill27/08/16 01:30 PM
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This holds true for easily 95% of jobs. With the exception of the most esoteric, no-human-interaction-required type setups. Most of the people disputing this are some variation of "I program legacy software for a platform that is no longer supported and I'm one of 3 people in the country that can do it, I tell them to fuck right off because no one else can do it!" Great. For the rest of the population, that all have a significant degree of replaceability (because while you're often times more va…
/r/TheRedPill27/08/16 01:29 PM
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It's wrong to dismiss this as luck. I moved about until I found a business that is run in a red pilled way, that doesn't involve nepotism or other blue pilled behaviour, it's not luck it's rational choice. Well yeah, you're straight up telling me that you went looking for a unicorn. You found a RPW, congrats. But that doesn't dispute the theory at all. This is for the average company.
/r/TheRedPill27/08/16 01:26 PM
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This post is not about kissing ass.
/r/TheRedPill27/08/16 01:22 PM
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but you can't grow without demonstrating competency and leadership skills. This post never claimed this. In fact the person in the post that had only social skills was demoted down the ladder.
/r/TheRedPill27/08/16 01:21 PM
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good doesn't matter, being liked does. The point of this post is that you need both.
/r/TheRedPill27/08/16 12:59 PM
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I think what OP meant to say, is if you don't care about this person in any capacity, they won't be able to return what you're trying to get from them.
/r/TheRedPill27/08/16 12:53 PM
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When I was young I hopped every year. Then started by own business. Before I was 30 I had sales, management and executive experience without a degree.
/r/TheRedPill27/08/16 12:51 PM
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Yes, boundaries are important. ALA "When I say no, I feel guilty."
/r/TheRedPill27/08/16 12:49 PM
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This is not a post to create your own business. It's a post about how to advance in corporate social circles. The equivalent of raising your SMV. You want to start your own company, do it. This post isn't about that. I've done both. They are entirely different animals.
/r/TheRedPill27/08/16 12:39 PM
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This post I guess is best to combine IQ, conscientiousness and extraversion.
/r/TheRedPill27/08/16 12:36 PM
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He is the post wall hag telling you red pill truths ;)
/r/TheRedPill27/08/16 12:35 PM
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I find it amazing, and your post validates my experience, how far these people are able to go just because they're good at brown-nosing Now imagine you genuinely like people and are a master at your job, yet are careful in showing this mastery only to those that should see it. How far does that person go?
/r/TheRedPill27/08/16 12:34 PM
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Perhaps I am just an opportunity away from having my "Et tu, Brutus," moment In my experience yes. You are rising because of competence and a skillset that I assume is totally irreplaceable at anything but multiples of your pay grade, but probably excluded from being C level until you show your social IQ.
/r/TheRedPill27/08/16 12:33 PM
1

This is a top tier sales technique called mirroring.
/r/TheRedPill27/08/16 12:31 PM
1

I will quote and add this later, this is important. I was SUPER guilty of this. Spending your cred is dangerous and fucking stupid. I did it a lot. It's the work equivalent of a cheat meal or beta slide in a LTR.
/r/TheRedPill27/08/16 12:31 PM
1

Good to hear man, keep up the good... socializing! Why the fuck aren't you running your own operation? Programmer?
/r/TheRedPill27/08/16 12:29 PM
1

She needs to read "no more mr nice guy" or "when I say no I feel guilty." Her issue is not competence, it's boundaries and social networking. Help is a two way street.
/r/TheRedPill27/08/16 12:28 PM
1

Harsh, this shit is just the beginning. This is the easy stuff. Here's the harshest truth from corporate land. If you don't have experience programming, executive experience or IT experience or are directly servicing (auto mechanic, painter etc) in the next 10 years, your job is probably gone. Money is on programming automation software, installing it, managing it, implementing it, selling it or teaching it.
/r/TheRedPill27/08/16 12:27 PM
2

How to win friends and influence people, 48 laws of power (just be muted about it). In general, like people and treat the company as a social gathering primarily and a lot of it falls into place.
/r/TheRedPill27/08/16 12:24 PM
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Because as a worker you are commoditized, your employer has abundance mentality. By mastering your skills and social standing in the workplace, in equivalence, you're giving yourself SMV10. Hypergamy your ass to the top. No dick sucking required, I promise.
/r/TheRedPill27/08/16 12:23 PM
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Bottom level (non ambitious): Be lazy and indifferent, you are a work horse, always be browsing for other jobs. Abundance mentality. Wrong, ignore the rules here and work your ass off and assume as much responsibility to accumulate knowledge and experience to job hop the fuck out of there. You can piss people off because you're just there to learn and grow. Either you'll be promoted or you'll leave. No worries. Fun and likeable socially but machivilian and ruthless with work. Show the top level …
/r/TheRedPill27/08/16 12:21 PM
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Why can't one have both? I'm saying you need both. When many people think competency rules all, it does not. Just like you can't rely on just making lots of money in a relationship. Google, Amazon, Tesla, etc, I think the ones that rise are all are excellent i.e. these companies are true meritocracies. You are naive to think that these companies are simply meritocracies. They are more meritocratic, but the rules still apply. Just as one women will respond more to game than appearance (likeabilit…
/r/TheRedPill27/08/16 12:18 PM
1

The basic premise here seems to be: pretend to be what you think will get you ahead, instead of what you are. Wrong. Interactions must be genuine. Universally liked/disliked people are so rare that they do not exist and advice for them is irrelevant. They exist and they move up quickly. You need to be super-exceptional to get ahead Yes, that's what this post is. How to get into the top 20% of the socio system.
/r/TheRedPill27/08/16 12:11 PM
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What I meant is the "corporate illusion" is blue pill. I think you're putting the employees under TRP BP RP lenses. My demeanor towards management has always been rebellious, I've nearly been fired over refusing to wear ties Exactly. You have been very lucky, and you could have replicated your success with only a fraction of your effort if you "played the game." Start playing the game with the CEO so you can be CIO.
/r/TheRedPill27/08/16 12:09 PM
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The basic gist is when you're young, it makes more sense to find a new job to move up since moving up in a company is much slower. Once you have sufficient job experience you can "invest" in a company.
/r/TheRedPill27/08/16 12:07 PM
0

What benefit would you have ignoring this advice if you had lots of in-demand and difficult to replace skills?
/r/TheRedPill27/08/16 12:06 PM
4

And these skills will still be useful to you.
/r/TheRedPill27/08/16 01:47 AM
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How do you draw the line between her thinking you're thirsty and that you literally don't care if she would get raped by a pack of wild animals? You have to calibrate. But the biggest thing you can do is use rapport. You weave this into your normal daily interactions. But it must be genuine. You must find general intersections of interest and affection with people. Otherwise you will be a butt sniffer, for sure. But even the most repulsive beta faggot likes a game you used to be really into. He …
/r/TheRedPill27/08/16 12:09 AM
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700 is considered great. You only get into the 800s with real estate holdings. That's "technically not true" but I've seen enough in auto finance to connect the dots on their formula. You are promoted to the 800s with multiple long term, substantial assets you pay on time. You get to the 700s just by paying on time.
/r/TheRedPill26/08/16 11:17 PM
1

CF isn't an example of anything except batshit crazy people with maturity of a wet noodle. Anyone who willingly forgoes their lineage is the world's ultimate cuck.
/r/TheRedPill26/08/16 10:13 PM
1

The point is it was never really viable in america. It only works in third world nations. Then you literally flip flop AF BB
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/16 07:50 PM
4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rWunrNejmA
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/16 07:33 PM
1

The idea that alpha fux = winner and beta bux = loser. Is wrong. I dispute this statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/16 07:27 PM
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This is wrong. There is nothing in TRP that advocates BB as being okay. AF can still be relationship material, you're misunderstanding things. The reason why women don't generally get AF or AB is because those men either don't want to have relationships with them, or they have much much better options (AB). AB can sleep with a 6 at the drop of a hat and she'll worship the ground that he walks on. But she'll never be anything to him, ever ever ever. AF can sleep with a 6 at the drop of a hat and …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/16 07:18 PM
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Wrong. PUA is the technique to attract women. TRP is an understanding OF WOMEN. Their nature and a system structured around that understanding. You can be a blue pill PUA. You can be a red pill PUA. It depends on how you perceive women to be. BP believes the cultural narrative that women are mostly innocent and well meaning. They believe cultural narratives represent the average woman and relationship. Red pill believes they narratives have a gynocentric purpose and rejects them. In my experienc…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/16 07:11 PM
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And women speak in language that contradicts their intention. And they lack maturity because of systemic favoritism. And and and and and and.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/16 07:08 PM
2

Marriage is a little over 4000 years old.
/r/TheRedPill26/08/16 07:05 PM
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And here I thought that a woman's prime reproductive years were 33-48. http://ci.memecdn.com/321/9297321.jpg
/r/TheRedPill26/08/16 06:44 PM
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Ran my own company for a while and just getting back into corporate land. I used to hate this kind of stuff, but as I've gotten more and more red I'm just indifferent. The key point I've learned through everything is that everything is game. You create systems in all ways of your life to deal with your issues. When you try and directly manage these employees, you're in their frame. The creation of KPIs and a meritocracy is used to specifically mitigate this issue and bring them into your frame. …
/r/TheRedPill26/08/16 01:56 PM
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Researchers are usually pretty well guarded and most of them wait till tenure to do this kind of stuff. The ones that do get fired generally are successful at sueing. It's probably the one area you're safe in so long as you are not blatantly against the grain. You just have to wrap it up in enough double speak and libtalk. At the end of the research just say it requires more research as to why. Even though everyone that reads it knows why. That men are stronger than women.
/r/TheRedPill26/08/16 01:13 PM
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Did you work over 60 hours this week? Because your cognitive function seems low today. https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/10/90/d7/1090d7421bc350ba54055b86bcfec6fd.jpg
/r/TheRedPill26/08/16 01:11 PM
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This does coincide with studies that have more or less said that on average women are smarter. They have more efficient use of grey matter. They also have a higher emotional IQ on average. Where men best women is strength and top tier mental horsepower. The smartest men are smarter than the smartest women. Lots of people have mentioned here that women make great supervisors and middle managers, I tend to agree, so long as you can subject them to performance based metrics. The reason why most CEO…
/r/TheRedPill26/08/16 01:01 PM
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Step 1 : Setup KPIs Step 2 : Remedial training under the guise of "advanced training" with use of KPIs. Call it "advanced data driven management." Step 3 : Do the job yourself and others that are competent in the role. Step 4 : Place them into this role formally. Step 5 : Start formal process of transitioning them out of the company with your newly formed meritocracy sledge. "I'm having trouble with two really talented employees in my department that are having trouble meeting productivity metri…
/r/TheRedPill26/08/16 12:54 PM
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That is a cross dressing man who identifies as a transgender. Basically someone who has gender identity disorder. To call them a lesbian is just making their dreams come true. Anyways, who cares honestly. Just noise, apply the rules of power.
/r/TheRedPill25/08/16 07:58 PM
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Ah, then we don't agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/16 06:23 PM
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I highly doubt that. Cross dressed and identified as transgender, sure, chopping their dick off, no.
/r/TheRedPill25/08/16 06:22 PM
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It's not tone policing, it's actually debating your argument as presented. Tone policing is "your tone is not appropriate." It's appropriate, but it misrepresents your actual opinion. Words have meaning, use them in the right way and the impact is much stronger. We agree, yet I could not fully understand that since you did not use the true power of wording.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/16 05:35 PM
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In a debate semantics are important. Your message is too soft and comes off blue, not even purple.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/16 05:17 PM
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I have some sympathy for most of them, there is evidence they are born with "the wrong brain." (Which is the best part of the debate, you going to say now that men and women are the same or not?) That doesn't mean I need to care about it. Like really, it's unfortunate. But there are literally thousands of other diseases and misfortunes that people suffer every day. Chop your dick off, move on with your life and leave me out of it. Don't tell me that I have to pat you on the back.
/r/TheRedPill25/08/16 05:15 PM
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but I agree many are uncomfortable Uncomfortable is not the word. And it's "nearly all women" not many.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/16 05:13 PM
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Law 38, think as you like but behave like others. Think : AHAHAHAHAHAHA! Behave : Wow... such determinism, much beauty.
/r/TheRedPill25/08/16 04:27 PM
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Why does anyone care what someone who chops their dick off does? Shit is real life physical comedy, nothing more or less.
/r/TheRedPill25/08/16 04:13 PM
2

Actually this isn't as binary as you'd like to make it. In TRP sidebar they obviously refer to this as FMOFY (fuck me or fuck you) or I guess "the main event." Under the tenets of frame, if this is how he feels, that is what he should do. If he works out FOR HER, it's a covert contract. If he does it for him, it's part of his frame. If he works on the relationship for him, it's his frame. But clearly he's under her frame. And the only way to break that is going to be FMOFY. But only if he's to t…
/r/TheRedPill25/08/16 03:32 PM
3

Maybe at the micro or small business level, but above SME there is no way the CEO is a "figure head."
/r/TheRedPill23/08/16 12:52 PM
2

Feminine vs masculine women. Caregiver vs Ordergiver.
/r/TheRedPill22/08/16 05:29 PM
1

Great telling of how deeply ingrained the illusion is. Thank your lucky stars you saw it early and the easy way. I'd say most red pill origin stories are some variation of lost attraction, lit me on fire and left.
/r/TheRedPill20/08/16 03:53 PM
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They are logical to their ends. It may not be logical to you, but they are orchestrating the logic to their feelings. Psychopaths feel, it's empathy they have issues with. Usually, negative empathy (sadism).
/r/TheRedPill20/08/16 01:52 PM
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The point is irrelevant. Basically the whole purpose of using n-count is to exclude, the reasoning is irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/16 02:13 PM
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The solution would be autistic beyond comprehension.
/r/TheRedPill19/08/16 02:30 AM
1

A DNA test takes about a week and a half if you pay for overnight. I highly doubt their window is 2 weeks.
/r/TheRedPill18/08/16 11:25 PM
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I tried looking up some of these cases but can't find any abstracts. I would love to see what you're purporting here. The one I could read, it went beyond your standard case of "guess it's not yours." Such was not true, as MJA was still married at the time of conception. PAJ also signed an affidavit acknowledging his paternity of the minor child. That was in that case what locked it down (her claiming that she was not legally married, when in fact she was, which would have established the child …
/r/TheRedPill18/08/16 08:45 PM
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Right idea, poor execution. "There just isn't any spark, I think you are a fantastic woman, just not the right one for me." You gotta get on their level m8.
/r/TheRedPill18/08/16 07:42 PM
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Stop using the word fraud in a legal sense. It's not fraud. In true legal terminology, it's an unsubstantiated allegation of paternity. Either intentionally or not. Again, fraud, legally, requires someone to be subverting the law through misinterpretation. And again, it's not against the law to lie either intentionally, or unintentionally, about who the biological father of a child is. EVEN IF, what you were saying was illegal, there would be a CONCRETE alibi. "I thought he was the father." Your…
/r/TheRedPill18/08/16 07:31 PM
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Besides almost going to law school, no. Law is simply an interest of mine, but I have a pretty sound grasp on it. Enough to personally navigate my custody case. If what you were seeing was legally feasible, someone would have done it already. They haven't, and not because "they want to be reelected." That is a prime motivator, but someone, somewhere, would have tried it.
/r/TheRedPill18/08/16 07:29 PM
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Your use of the term "fraud" here is personally descriptive, but legally incorrect. There is no "fraud" taking place. The mother is either mistaken or being willfully dishonest. Fraud has a specific legal context, of which it doesn't meet under any interpretation of any law.
/r/TheRedPill18/08/16 06:27 PM
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In order to "pervert the course of justice" you need to hinder conviction of a law that you could be proven to be violating. It's not against the law to claim someone is a father when they are not. Besides, how would she even "know" unless she tested both of you? At best, she's just lying about being faithful. While you are correct there is discretion in the applicability of which laws can be used to prosecute, this would not fall under any such crime, which is why it's never been prosecuted. Ne…
/r/TheRedPill18/08/16 06:25 PM
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This is a lot of reply for two major issues. "Paternity fraud" is not a crime, therefore the D\A can't prosecute. There are literally millions of schemes that amount to being "a huge dick\cunt" that are legal, this being one of them. Let's say you do pass a law that makes it illegal, and they start freeing these guys. Who pays? The woman, sure. But what if she can't? This is the question that no RP man has a decent answer for. Charity and bootstraps don't feed a starving child. This is literally…
/r/TheRedPill18/08/16 06:10 PM
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This doesn't dispute my reply at all. That's why I said that successful fraud cases are blue pill. Takes all but 15 minutes to check.
/r/TheRedPill18/08/16 06:07 PM
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There are a lot of reasons to be wary of family court, paternity fraud is not one of them. This is a US centric reply. As I understand France is a little more prickly, but still, I think it's overblown here. The issue is really guys who don't bother to test, spend a decade with the kid and then want to contest it. At that point YOU ARE the father. You're just not the biological father. And courts don't really care about that, why should they, no take backsies at that point.
/r/TheRedPill18/08/16 04:21 PM
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Paternity fraud will never be solved. There is no viable solution to this. Classic case of "what should be" and "how it is." The root of family court is for the children, and your view is "for me." Sucks, but the red pill truth here is cover your bases. There is, to my knowledge, a way in every state to disavow paternity with DNA within a time window. Just DNA test your kids. Home kits are cheap, convenient and easy, you don't even have to let her know. If it comes back as not yours, you get a l…
/r/TheRedPill18/08/16 03:08 PM
1

Not AWALT. Just immaturity, on both sides.
/r/TheRedPill18/08/16 12:35 PM
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And this is how you get called a creep or rapist. IOI are the covert message women give you to pursue them. This is terrible advice. If she hasn't given you IOI, she's outright not interested. IOIs are innate, biological responses that she will demonstrate without even knowing it. She won't choose to display them. So if you're not seeing them, she's not interested, period. Even girls who aren't yet tipped to the point of interest will give you some. You don't need to wait for them for an APPROAC…
/r/TheRedPill18/08/16 12:31 PM
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Women who think like men have a name, Lucifer's Daughter (female psychopaths). TRP doesn't want women to be men, it's teaching men to understand women.
/r/TheRedPill18/08/16 12:27 PM
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A woman who hasn't had children by 30 is generally shit. You need a woman with what's called a "caregiver orientation." And these women, by in large, do NOT put career above family. Some of these women get the screws turned on them by RP men, but in general, there are enough guys that recognize that these women are HIGH HIGH value and lock them down and pop out some spawns. Also been married twice? Duuude. Trash trash trash. She's barely plate material. She's ONS material.
/r/TheRedPill17/08/16 07:34 PM
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This is addressed in the rational male with scientific evidence, to the notion that testosterone is what drives sexual libedo. And wouldn't you know it, men have 12 times the amount of testosterone. That's why women's drives are cyclical.
/r/TheRedPill15/08/16 04:31 PM
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You do realize that many many hospitals already caught onto this and do this right? They know all the ins and outs of billing and would be happy to inundate someone with unnecessary tests and treatments, so long as they can justify the billing. The mental gymnastics are easy, it's "total care for the mind and body." The doctors don't care because they're mostly removed from the process, they're overseeing an army of people who are just managing people below them. Once it gets to them they aren't…
/r/TheRedPill15/08/16 02:03 PM
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Just saying. I mean you can game in a fedora, you're just increasing your incline on the treadmill of life.
/r/TheRedPill15/08/16 12:59 PM
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No, just a classic example of watch what they do and ignore what they say. It was listed as a "makes me quiver." I mean, rofl, come on.
/r/TheRedPill14/08/16 04:17 PM
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Sense of Style 2. Handsome Face 3. Height 4. Muscular Build 5. Fitness while 66 percent placed moral integrity as a "make me quiver" characteristic. Don't listen to what they say.
/r/TheRedPill14/08/16 04:16 PM
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NB is basically the male equivalent of blue hair and a nose ring. Worn by autists, slubs and literal retards. They're pussy repellent.
/r/TheRedPill14/08/16 04:15 PM
2

perhaps they were driven into depression. This is irrelevant. Because clinical depression which is markedly different from "I'm feeling shitty" that a lot of people may call depression, is a chemical issue. The brain and your body at this point are actually responding in a different way. This is the point of no return, and there is no way to will yourself out of this. At this point, it's about the same as someone thinking positively about losing weight, or a smoker switching to "light" cigarette…
/r/TheRedPill13/08/16 02:52 PM
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I'm hostile because there is one thing that is absolutely maddening to read and I see it on here constantly. The people with depression can just "will there way out of it" or "think positively" and that crazy people are "beta." There is no amount of lifting, thought, frame or whatever that will change a person who is mentally ill. There is no amount of thought that will take a clinically depressed person out of depression. This is arm chair bullshittery at its worst, right up there with people w…
/r/TheRedPill13/08/16 02:38 PM
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That's point of my post. How daft are you? The point is you can't point the finger at a clearly mentally ill person and go "if he was Chad!" Like no kidding. But he's not because he's a lunatic. Mental illness doesn't care about your n-count, frame etc. I swear the quality of posting here has gone straight to shit. If you can't understand some of the most obvious stuff like this, I mean jesus. This observation is so off the mark it's pathetic.
/r/TheRedPill13/08/16 02:12 PM
1

Yes, because schizophrenia only targets betas.
/r/TheRedPill13/08/16 04:38 AM
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Mental illness and a way to become "an hero." Nothing to see here, nothing TRP. You can be alpha fucks, go schitzo and shoot up a school. These aren't rational revenge plots (for the most part). The ones with manifestos often have semi legitimate grips. But most... well... nutcases. Nutcase is BB or AF. It's just nutcase. Robin Williams hung himself, plenty of rockstars have vicariously killed themselves etc.
/r/TheRedPill12/08/16 10:34 PM
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Normally when I read this stuff it's a pointed attack and something I almost consider as recognition of being on the right path. This article? Off the top of their head trash fodder.
/r/TheRedPill11/08/16 01:03 PM
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Doing something you love for money is a great way to turn it into something you no longer love. I've ruined everything in my life except music this way. Do something that you can tolerate that you make a lot of money at that has a high degree of income mobility and stability that is in demand.
/r/TheRedPill10/08/16 05:43 PM
1

He wasn't testing if she was capable of love (binary), but testing the degree of hypergamy (logarithmic). He was correct to do so and found out he was BB, and on a thin wire. If she would have said "so what" he then knew he was either AF or hypergamy was low.
/r/TheRedPill08/08/16 05:58 PM
1

Maybe he said "we'll work on our family, but I'll be plowing the world out on tour."
/r/TheRedPill08/08/16 01:27 AM
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This is not hypergamy. This is just someone who got busted trying to have their cake, eat it, and have some more cake. I don't for a second believe this guy was "beta." He is AF. She is just trash, and this explains to me that she's not yours, it's just your turn. Not that he did anything wrong.
/r/TheRedPill08/08/16 01:26 AM
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To me this is just a classic example why you just assume she will whore it up. Base your entire life on that presumption. Base your relationship on it. No amount of money, fathering, social status etc will stop it. Just plan for it.
/r/TheRedPill08/08/16 01:24 AM
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He's working on getting fired, stay on his good side and play him. Give him what he wants and do not associate with him more than you need to. Make a complaint in someone else's name that would have overseen and heard him harassing the girl, win. He may be "alpha" but he's operating against the laws of power.
/r/TheRedPill06/08/16 08:02 PM
2

They removed it for good reason you fucking asswhipe. Clinical depression can not be overcome without a chemical intervention. Exercise or drug therapy. You are advocating self help for something that almost universally needs external help. Your advice is dangerous and it's bullshit!
/r/TheRedPill05/08/16 02:56 PM
1

They keep the narrative on lock pretty good. I had a highly upvoted post on marriage and they deleted it and then instituted a new policy forbidding talk about promoting marriage. They call it "concern trolling."
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/16 03:48 PM
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I'm sorry but this is feel good tripe. If you are clinically depressed, deciding to be happy simply will not work. The issue is chemical in nature at that point and your brain is responding in a depressed manner. You can "think you're happy" but your body will still depressed, and you will be depressed. That's why exercise is so important. It is a chemical attack on a chemical problem. The rest is just helping you cope with and understand your current state. To change the state, you must make pe…
/r/TheRedPill04/08/16 02:50 PM
1

They keep a tight control on what TRP is. Which is basically as I stated, a system designed to avoid narc injury (emotional hurt). All women are treated as disposable. Nothing wrong with that, but I find the whole no marriage and kids thing just plain unrealistic or practical.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/16 02:41 PM
2

The vanguards at TRP more or less wish they could nuke it. The position more or less is that MRP is for people who "found red pill after they made the largest mistake of their life." I've always had the largest problem with marriage and kids with TRP. Like I understand the purpose of the system's design, but it's idyllic in the way that bluepill is. There should be A LOT more content on vetting, mental illness, ACCURATE divorce laws and child support discussions etc. But its just hand waved. Don…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/16 02:01 PM
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TRP, classically speaking is anti marriage, because divorce rape. Which is why I notated the equal or stronger earner section. The children stuff is outright laughable (test tube babies etc). While TRP itself does not condone it, it is completely disingenuous to its users to expect that people will not ultimately get married or have children. Very few will not. That is really a person view of mine, I understand well what TRPs view is. And I think its idyllic in a blue pill way. In the way that a…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/16 12:55 PM
1

You're forgetting the requirement for the plate reward and next system. She's already passed with flying colors and bested many other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/16 12:36 PM
0

AF are not marrying sluts.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/16 12:32 PM
1

This stuff (if applied correctly) works on everyone. Believing that it won't work on you is a self-serving delusion. Traditional PUA will work on some 50% of the population based on the distribution of attachment styles.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/16 05:39 AM
1

https://therationalmale.com/2011/10/06/shacking-up/
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/16 05:38 AM
3

What part?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/16 01:38 AM
3

I am not at all confused what TRP is about. My view about sidebar material? Where do you get that?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/16 01:15 AM
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I'm not asking TRP to defend. This is a CMV. Also this is not really about marriage and kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/16 01:03 AM
3

What was the "reason" you used machiaveli?
/r/TheRedPill04/08/16 12:58 AM
1

Yeah we're on the same page, but I'm not going to cite because I'm not looking for peer review. If someone needs to be "cited" for AF\BB, then they're not interested in the debate. They are then instead just throwing rocks, with no interest beside watching the rocks fly.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/16 12:33 AM
2

Well 80% of TRP is really just self help and standard attraction. And a critique on the notion that appearance isn't everything (it's just 16x more important). I personally think the separation can be mostly explained by this mechanism. It would I think explain some harder to swallow things in TRP, explain why some blue pill people do in fact have healthier, less dramatic (think cluster-b) relationships. To me, it was kind of a lightbulb moment when I realized I was in a NPD\BPD relationship. I …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/16 11:43 PM
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You're missing my point. When you make a subsequent discovery, you don't need to reprove things that are already proven. If someone from a peer review committee tried saying "yeah, but you haven't given me the proof for the theory of relativity" people would be understandably annoyed. Users can search google, read the sidebar, it doesn't matter. It's not my job to link them to the studies. It's scientifically valid, not my job to walk them through it. I consider that the litmus test on whether o…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/16 11:39 PM
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It's a great watch, you're missing out. Probably one of the strongest PUA\TRP videos I've ever watched.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/16 11:36 PM
1

Basically that attachment style is 1) Studied : We know it's real and that women with different attachment styles respond differently to game. 2) Taught directly in PUA. This is a really really really important video that merges PUA & TRP. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UCnCkR-pk4 Give it a watch, do some research on attachment styles, and it almost perfectly explains the divide between red and blue pill. It's the difference between personality disordered and healthy attachment women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/16 11:27 PM
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I don't have the burden of establishing the burden of proof for things that are already considered proven. That's like asking for the proof on the theory of gravity in a debate that mentions it as a foundation. Most blue pillers know its true, the ones that reject it aren't interested in ANY evidence. I mean it's one of the few scientifically validated points of TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/16 11:15 PM
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You're still missing the point. Attachment style is real and studied. And your method of flirting with this person depends on that. And that most PUA material is focused on women with LSE.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/16 10:43 PM
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That's more or less common sense. It's a strong part of the dating scene, but not universal.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/16 10:13 PM
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Use Google yourself, are you 12?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/16 10:13 PM
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http://www.rsdnation.com/node/568573 Yeah no.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/16 10:12 PM
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What are you talking about? Cold approaching is an approach style, not some method. If you cold approach you still have to choose the right style of flirting, which is based on a woman's attachment style. http://www.rsdnation.com/node/568573 Oh is RSD 90s? Wait no?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/16 10:11 PM
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That doesn't say anything about AF\BB.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/16 10:07 PM
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It's a psychological term, you have to look it up. It's not made up.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/16 10:06 PM
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No, you're an adult. You can find them with ease, you're debating the least contentious point out of plain ignorance and laziness.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/16 10:06 PM
1

You are the captain of that ship.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/16 09:13 PM
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You're denying the most proven item of TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/16 09:13 PM
1

Does it exist or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/16 09:00 PM
2

There are a number of studies confirming it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/16 08:59 PM
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And we're done.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/16 08:59 PM
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Matching efficiency had increased due to technology. Less compromise necessary, shift further towards 80/20.
/r/TheRedPill03/08/16 08:42 PM
1

Let's start with AF/BB
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/16 08:28 PM
1

I never said that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/16 08:23 PM
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I don't believe it's obvious, let me tell you why. The perfect girl, displaying no dark qualities, will be attracted to a dark man, but will simply not be overt in showing these qualities. The danger of this situation and cocktail I do not think is apparent to all. The punk rock girl is a too obvious example. The reality is, she can look or be anyone. If she's attracted to you, and you're being dark, she's dark too. And dark chicks are straight trash.
/r/TheRedPill03/08/16 07:03 PM
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30% of marriages a woman earns more than the man. The question is, do you want to protect your downside, or maximize your chance of success? My position on the matter is, in validation land, with tinder, facebook etc... you are never a match for an ever declining release of chemicals like dopamine pared with the highly efficient matching networks online of thirsty and thrifty betas and alphas. It's just your turn, when it's over, you don't want to be turned into a burnt husk.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/16 07:01 PM
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The message is simple, if you are a piece of shit, you attract shit. And that white knights are not always hapless losers you don't need to worry about. They can be dangerous starved for pussy criminals too. And that if you go down the path of being "dark" whatever, you will attract a woman that will still conform to AF\BB, but in a darker fashion. And that, is very very dangerous.
/r/TheRedPill03/08/16 06:51 PM
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It explains in depth that being dark and attracting dark partners weaponizes AF\BB. I'm explaining that moving AF\BB into dark territory is an extremely bad thing.
/r/TheRedPill03/08/16 06:14 PM
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Why don't you examine his divorce settlement, and after that, reply to me again.
/r/TheRedPill03/08/16 05:55 PM
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I generally hate the fact that every post there is "fake" but this does sound pretty fake. The whole "my depression was from this, she helped me with it, then destroyed me about it. Then wanted to go to a sperm bank." A little out there. If this was a real woman she'd have just divorced him when she found AF thinking she can lock him down and go CC. Story doesn't even really make sense from a game theory point of view.
/r/TheRedPill03/08/16 05:35 PM
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Do you really want to be BB? Elon Musk is the perfect example.
/r/TheRedPill03/08/16 05:27 PM
2

LOL. "How can we prove, being nice, is sexier, than being sexy?" Evil scientist 1 : Self reported study forcing the participants to adopt socially accepted narratives? Evil scientist 2 : You evil fuck you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/16 03:58 PM
1

It's a loaded question. A better question might be what women are attracted to validation game? Lots of TRP applies to women with attachment disorders.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/16 02:45 PM
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They are all the same woman. Cluster B histrionic.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/16 02:42 PM
8

What makes a man, is it the power in his hands? Is it his quest for glory? Give it all you got, to fight to the top, So we can know your story. Now you're a man! A man, man, man, Now you're a man! A manny, manny man, A man, man, man, You are now a man. You're a man! Now you're a man! Live it, live it! What makes a man, is it the woman in his arms, Just 'cause she has big titties? Or is it the way he fights everyday? No, it's prob'ly the titties. Now you're a man! A man, man, man, Now you're a ma…
/r/TheRedPill01/08/16 10:58 AM
1

Something I had to learn the hard way. "Oh man, she's so logical, perfect!" And that's how I learned what BPD and psychopathy is.
/r/TheRedPill31/07/16 11:51 AM
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That you were trying to save a bag of wet garbage.
/r/TheRedPill30/07/16 03:57 PM
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I am mostly perplexed by these women. Who does she get a tampon from when the need arises? An orbiter. Who does she text dressing room selfies to decide if a dress is worth $200? An orbiter. Who does she talk to when her mom is being unreasonable? An emotional tampon. Who gets drunk with her in the kitchen on Friendsgiving?? Orbiters, emotional tampons, FWBs or Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/16 03:22 PM
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Maybe he is red pill after all.
/r/TheRedPill30/07/16 01:58 AM
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Logical women = Lucifer's daughter You WANT women to be emotional. The opposite of a woman, female wise, is a female psychopath. Want the worst of both worlds? BPD.
/r/TheRedPill30/07/16 01:54 AM
2

I also think some at TRP should lighten up on single mums as well. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/16 02:50 PM
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Till death do us part, or if you're messy. Sounds legit.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/16 01:58 PM
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It basically played out how I expected. Every single reply starts out with some way of discounting or removing themselves from the blame. Most of the replies are outright "I'm too nice" replies. Which are variations of "I should have never picked him." I honestly did not expect this thread to go this RP.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/16 12:59 PM
1

The book isn't really about gender roles, it's more simply about surrendering control. It's your post, but 150 pages.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/16 02:28 AM
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I already acknowledged two posts, LOL. Wtf m8
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/16 02:26 AM
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Breast ideation is cultural. Facial symmetry, hip ratio etc are not. You picked one to suit your argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/16 01:34 AM
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Only 32%, LOL!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/16 01:32 AM
1

That isolated is perfect. Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/16 01:31 AM
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Textbook "submissive wife" book example. Good to hear!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/16 01:30 AM
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This is a "i was too nice"example. He's still the real issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/16 10:43 PM
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YES, dude. Of course I have. If you asked me to go through my LTRs and assign blame, in one I would assign it (mostly, I wasn't perfect) to the dude Q4BP Women - Those of you with men who started showing RP tendencies. What were your share of failings in the relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/16 08:36 PM
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I can't believe he came on my face...what an ASSHOLE!
/r/TheRedPill28/07/16 08:35 PM
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Q4BP Women - Those of you with men who started showing RP tendencies. What were your share of failings in the relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/16 08:27 PM
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The point of this thread is that to a woman, they're all relationships were the guy was an asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/16 08:06 PM
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This is not an actual reply to the thread, which means it should be under automod.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/16 07:23 PM
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Even if, none of it is her fault. You're DEERing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/16 07:21 PM
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You responded "yes, but then." The yes, in response to admitting fault is introspection, "but then" is a blame shift, hamstering. She's hamstering her part of the equation away. Which owes itself to "the duty of performance."
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/16 05:45 PM
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Exactly. A moment of truth, that must be squashed by the hamster.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/16 05:36 PM
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I believe that a failure to take responsibility for failed relationships is shared equally by the genders. Have you ever heard a woman say "I should have gone down on him more, or had better\more sex with him?"
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/16 05:21 PM
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Started a thread in PPD. You might enjoy it, if any answers roll in.
/r/TheRedPill28/07/16 05:18 PM
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I think there is a degree of mirroring between the two, but I think the evolutionary basis is different. AF\BB is about excitement&genes\parental investment&stability Slut\Housewife is about excitement&reproductive opportunity\paternal certainty&long term sexual supply. I think lots of guys are into the idea of domesticating a slut. Or as Patrice called it, "hoing down." Now obviously its more common to "ho up." Or try to turn a housewife into a whore. That being said, I think men and women both…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/16 05:18 PM
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I think this is best demonstrated through the "former spouse abusive treadmill." All the "best man I've ever met" guys at the end become "an abusive, controlling jerk." Spontaneously? All of them? Through no fault of your own? If every girlfriend by the time you broke up with her was "an insecure bitch" the comments would open up with "what did you do to that poor girl?" Let's be real here, it takes two to tango. And guys are I think for the most part, if they've made it to an LTR, ready to own …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/16 05:14 PM
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"I understand you are interested in social issues, I am too. But I'm not really interested in them on a political or activist level. It's just something I'm privately interested in, intellectually. I imagine you respect someone's right to privacy right?" OF COURSE, BUT IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT WHEN DEALING WITH A RACIST HOMOPHOBE LIKE YOURSELF! "That is an absurd allegation, but again, I am not interested in getting into an argument. Wish you the best of luck on your (youtube channel, blog etc)."…
/r/TheRedPill28/07/16 04:25 PM
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To be fair, a large number of people basically replied the same. "Why did he start?" What I wish would have happened is waited for her to answer "what are your flaws?" That was juicy.
/r/TheRedPill28/07/16 04:15 PM
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Don't have a valid way to criticize the prevailing beliefs or counterculture? Shit your pants and throw rocks.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/16 09:25 PM
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So we agree, your response is nuanced ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/16 09:21 PM
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Figured, it seemed pretty... optimistic. I'm thinking there's no way it's even close to 1 in 10.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/16 06:49 PM
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It's a nice thing to do and it makes my position as Just a Friend/a girl with 0 interest, very clear. LOL. I have to start reading your posts every morning as a new way to get my morning comic. Listen, what you're doing is great for guys who get it. But it is certainly not clear for guys who do not. Your soft next is clever, and socially acceptable way of helping highly socialized guys. But for guys of low social intelligence, this most certainly is the opposite of clear. In fact, let me give yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/16 06:15 PM
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TIL 15% of marriages are open. I was wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/16 03:13 PM
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Not unique, just extremely atypical.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/16 02:55 PM
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You're talking about fractions of the population.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/16 02:33 PM
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You mean besides the fact that 99.00% of the population is going to be abhorred by the idea of an open marriage?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/16 02:07 PM
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FYI OP is an escort, so she's going to have a fairly unique view on intersexual relations.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/16 02:04 PM
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The drop ship game is over. Source, did $4M of imports with small margins. Could not imagine the microscopic margins of D/S, not to mention competition. You have to bring value to the market, the days of arbitrage are more or less over.
/r/TheRedPill25/07/16 11:26 PM
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It's a reference to him in his prime. And the Brad Pitt test is "if Brad Pitt were to do this, would he get dumped or cheated on?" The answer 9\10, is no. In fact, with most women, he could shit on the floor.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/16 10:56 PM
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Brad can literally shit on the floor.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/16 06:46 PM
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You can suck my pro tip mort.
/r/TheRedPill24/07/16 05:21 PM
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$$
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/16 03:16 PM
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Fails the Brad Pitt (tm) test. It's not about leaving dishes out.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/16 03:15 PM
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Yes, there is overlap. This fails the Brad Pitt(tm) test. It was an attraction issue, not a choreplay issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/16 03:14 PM
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You're thinking of PLACEMENT. Custody is decision making ability. You can have 100% custody and 0% placement. Which to me shows, you know little to nothing about this.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/16 06:39 PM
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So it's not as crazy as TRP thinks, which is what my gut said. Thanks for the math. 30% is not really crazy at all. If you focus on that 30%, you protect your downside, so when they do woman stuff, you can shrug it off instead of getting clubbed in court for 18 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/16 06:31 PM
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Well at least it solves CS-rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/16 06:30 PM
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You are replying to a different OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/16 05:53 PM
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Those deviations usually have weighted tests to use as reference. Where I think the manosphere 100% has it right is to "get the best lawyer you can afford" here. A judge might want to deviate, but the lawyer who golfs with him on the weekend is going to hold his feet to the fire.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/16 05:11 PM
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Source : Splitting up with one. In retrospect though, women with high incomes are a fucking pain in the ass. Glad the kids are sorted out with a HNW woman. But my future plates will all be dumb as a box full of wet towels.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/16 05:06 PM
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Not true. Women who are primary earner types shift from BB/AF to AF/AF. The fuck you need BB for when you make $150K a year?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/16 05:00 PM
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I think you mean placement. This is also worth bringing into the manosphere, each states view on placement. Our state presumes 50% unless you can prove some pretty crazy shit. Which of course 3WF claimed was "unfair."
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/16 04:58 PM
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There is not a presupposition in this CMV. A large percentage of TRP does not actually understand this. A large percentage believes that the male pays, period. Protect your downside and wife\mother a woman with a high earning capacity. Plate the rest.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/16 04:55 PM
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DOES SHE MAKE MORE THAN HIM?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/16 04:22 PM
1

And what if the woman is the primary earner, you know the OP?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/16 04:20 PM
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It doesn't "destroy the fathers life." Dispute the OP. It destroys the high income earners life.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/16 01:25 PM
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It's not a brag, I knew this before I had kids and I'm surprised TRP STILL hasn't got it yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/16 12:28 PM
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2, just pulled last week. If she doesn't pay it she'd be jailed on contempt, just like a man would. I mean they're probably more lenient, but ultimately if she has the income she has to pay it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/16 12:11 PM
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My so's obligation to me is $2K+/mo. Literally zero people in this thread are using their state's calculator. Equal placement and her having a higher income means she pays you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/16 12:03 PM
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This is not disputing the OP at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/16 11:54 AM
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This is not disputing the OP at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/16 11:53 AM
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If they have joint placement (custody is decision making ability) and she makes more than him, she'd pay him support.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/16 11:53 AM
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What state, and what are their incomes, I'll do the calculation for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/16 11:18 AM
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Are you replying to the op or making your own point? What exactly are you disputing?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/16 02:22 AM
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Love? That's a load of shit. Find a good piece of ass with an income.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/16 02:21 AM
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You don't have to sign the birth certificate or get married.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/16 01:20 AM
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This is in no way disputing the op.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/16 01:12 AM
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They're called ORBITERS. Just like your Johns are customers, but some of them think they're your lover. Just one more time till she falls for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 10:25 PM
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It's obvious. You can choose to be oblivious, but I'm not going to go hunting for citations for you. You're the one that wants me to prove your own special snowflake view. If you don't think that's an accurate representation, start a CMV here. "CMV : Most men are not bothered by sluts and single mothers." Good luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 08:58 PM
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IDK what the fuck I was thinking. You're 100% right, not cluster B.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 08:56 PM
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Well I figured you were cluster B ;) Just missed where in it. But hey, if a stranger on the internet can see it.....
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 08:46 PM
1

Nearly all family issues boil down to sex and money. Everything else is tripe.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 08:45 PM
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The issue you two had was from childhood attachment. And your family was more important than you sexual incompatibilities. I disagree with you, but good job on getting better. Your main issue IMO was two people with personality disorders, and one person getting better.
/r/TheRedPill21/07/16 08:44 PM
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I'm not sure how you can knowingly understand what a false negative worldview is and at the same time not realize you're displaying it. Again, makes me lean towards BPD. Probably smarter or as smart as your therapist, and have him doing backflips for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 08:17 PM
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Exactly, you have no idea what the fuck you're talking about. Raising kids isn't rocket science like liberals want to believe. People raised kids before there was even language. Shit is innate.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 08:15 PM
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+2 She was looking for someone who would take the abuse. Bet if you probed he was the one that divorced her. Source : Had kids with a BPD whackjob.
/r/TheRedPill21/07/16 08:12 PM
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Do you have kids?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 08:08 PM
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I don't really care about a random person on the internet, I'm just giving you insight into an element of disorder I personally had to understand to be proactive to stop letting it create chaos in my life. Most people are ruthlessly exclusionary. And it took a long time to understand this is a better model than being ruthlessly inclusionary. What a false negative worldview is, ultimately, is special snowflake thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 08:08 PM
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Relationships are hard. Not really, just that women no longer want to be women. Most men are simple. Do you really think that's all that being part of a family entails? No, which is why I said that most other stuff follows pretty simply.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 08:05 PM
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The fuck are you talking about, I'm uNPD. I'm just pointing out that one of the traits of disorder is false negative worldview. Which you're rife with.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 07:59 PM
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people forever soiled and damaged No, it just means they sucked at being partners. They fucked up the greatest thing in their lives OR that they chose a shit partner. Real life and real relationships are not nearly as simple and black and white as you would like to believe. Family is not as complex as bluepers want it to be. Males do male things, females do female things. If bills get paid, stomachs are full and balls are drained, most other stuff follows pretty simply. Problem is that the left …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 07:58 PM
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The wall is only ever true if a given person is at their theoretical maximum smv in their youth. http://lovelace-media.imgix.net/uploads/92/6739b310-1ffd-0132-08bb-0eae5eefacd9.jpg? the wall" is that older people typically have weaker options, which is common sense; that's no surprise. But imo, women never really lose in the smv, unless you consider not getting their alpha bux losing, who most women can't get anyway. Yes, you are describing the wall perfectly. You agree with TRP theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 07:55 PM
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She's not a single mother yet, but she has been demoted to plate. She seemingly has got it now and is turning around. But we'll see. I don't hate single mothers, I just recognize now at a very real level what it means. It makes a huge statement about who that person is that can't be taken back. Not much different than someone who used to escort. You display a trait that I had for a long time myself. A propensity for "false negative" views of the world. It took me a long time to become self aware…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 07:51 PM
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How can you be so daft to not recognize what being a single parent means? How can you not grasp the significance of this? They either picked wrong or fucked up the largest decision of their life.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 07:45 PM
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Just sayin ;) Ignore the bloopers, they're always wrong!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 07:44 PM
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Income is not valuable in terms of what makes a good woman. It's almost always actually a hinderance. If you can find a woman that doesn't think her income increases her SMV, then it's a small bonus. But almost universally it increases her mental SMV and basically makes her a pain in the ass. Source: Accidentally had kids with a woman with a doctorate. Big house, pain in the ass. If I could do it all over again, would have found a girl one notch above literate who loves kids. Independent woman i…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 07:35 PM
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"Wall" is hyperbole. But there's certainly a drastic impact to SMV.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 07:27 PM
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http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/earth-is-not-round/ It's a bumpy spheroid blooper.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 07:26 PM
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This thread would not otherwise exist if it wasn't a commonly held belief. You're asking for the converse of evidence that women don't like nice guys(tm), betas, short guys and bums.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 07:20 PM
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I did not say they were nothing but sexual value. It's simply the primary value. And women are not apt at bringing much to the table besides it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 07:19 PM
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Common sense? Jesus.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 07:10 PM
1

Simply two different groups. Later being "westernized" women. No surprise here. N-count inverse relationship to personal satisfaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 06:45 PM
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Comes from a wealthy family but has a secret why she needs the money. Lol. Okay. Don't tell the stranger on the internet about your business idea that you need seed money for. One, because I laugh at it. Two, because I don't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 06:24 PM
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I have NPD, and have been with someone with BPD for a decade. That's why I asked. The whole "really smart but does stupid shit" trope is a BPD thing. You've got a bunch of orbiters and are whoring yourself out even though it doesn't appear you financially need to do such a thing. That would appear to show a high need for validation and insulate yourself from abandonment fears, while also limiting the pool of suitors to those that would be of low emotional intimacy. The lack of urgency in regards…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 05:58 PM
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But the idea of banging me makes them feel sick. https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/d43aaeeb-008c-488d-9a22-d9adae82c0ec LOL, they're called ORBITERS.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 05:49 PM
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Sluts as I said are less problematic. There are guys that like women like that. It certainly limits the pool, but its not a death knell. You're not going to pull a surgeon post escort. My mind is not blown. You sound to be over the age of 26, without kids, no immediate plans for children, and an escort. You are keenly aware of and leveraging your SMV for every last drop, at the expense of your RMV. None of this is surprising. If you pull a surgeon who is not a headcase post escort and your hones…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 05:45 PM
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I have plenty of platonic male friends I don't doubt that. But you are very naive to think it's the same in reverse.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 05:38 PM
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No, they treat them like men. They subject them to a utility analysis. That's why the most utility a women usually offers if sex or an LTR isn't on the table is to introduce him to other women. Look at almost any friendship between a man and a woman and ask yourself "what is the man getting out of this relationship?" Then ask the same of the woman. Man Sex Relationship Possibility of a relationship (orbiter, emotional tampon, intellectual whore etc) Social networking (wing woman, work collegue e…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 05:31 PM
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Graduate student is pretty low on the totem pole. Source : Graduate student. My ex was an orthopedic surgeon with a pretty successful practice -- he was the one who was a bit of a dick at times but oh-so-smart and pretty. Pre escort?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 05:24 PM
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Women are still people, love. When you strip away their sexuality, they are still human. If you're just desexualizing them, you wouldn't be disgusted you'd just be neutral or at best slightly positively inclined. Yes, except their is a biological assessment done in your hindbrain, this is innate. It's not a social issue or anything like that. Just like how men are not attracted to pregnant women. This view 'this person likely has no value to me, until demonstrated otherwise' is NOT the attitude …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 05:23 PM
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A man that has many high value female options available to. Typical example is an attractive doctor with a successful practice. Usually would include men who want a family. What you consider high value I assume is more likely an attractive man. Don't get me wrong. Plenty of attractive guys would date an escort. In general, the kind of guy that dates an escort is going to have some form of codependence, masochist tendencies or something else going on upstairs. And a high value man, simply would n…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 05:09 PM
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Yeah, because we're not programmed to be sexually interested in them. Male or female, when we talk to each other, the hind brain is calculating what value does this person offer me? Entertainment? Sex? Relationship? Profit? The first calculation being done on a woman is... sex. Second relationship. If your value is below the mean, what do you expect? That's not treating you like shit. You're just being subject to a use analysis. What benefit do you offer if you're not attractive or worth a relat…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 05:04 PM
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Men don't treat these women like shit. They treat them like other men. What you think is being treated as subhuman, is how it feels when preferential treatment is stripped from your interactions.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 04:24 PM
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You definition of a high value male is distinctly your own.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 04:22 PM
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You don't need to individualize this. The MEAN of men don't have an interest in sluts or single mothers. No one is "demonizing" them. They're doing the exact thing that a woman does to a beta male. Overtly stating that they don't find such a thing attractive. Single mothers have low RMV for a reason, sluts have low RMV for a reason. It's not because they're "demonized." It's because they make poor LTR partners. Single moms really are the worse of the two IMO. A slut, may reform (though unlikely)…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 04:21 PM
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Not really, just two different versions of using someone. Women use those guys for validation (orbiters). Men use those women for sex (pump and dump). They are both low SMV.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 04:16 PM
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Exactly, that's why I think it's so outrageous that we penalize people who've been to prison. I mean I can see why you might be concerned that the guy who robbed a bank might steal inventory, but a girl who had a lot of sex partners might have figured out how to live a boring life. Just like the guy who stole for a living now will work on slowly building the tools he's a decade behind on to be a productive member of society. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 04:15 PM
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They're not being "dehumanized." They're being "desexualized." In fact, they're no longer being objectified. The thing women claim they don't want to be. They are no longer sexual objects, but instead people, of mediocre sexual appeal (niche). http://lh4.ggpht.com/-2w5iSRp0kDM/UndtNExMIxI/AAAAAAAAA_A/8CajlxVUa88/image_thumb%25255B9%25255D.png?imgmax=800 Men have no obligation to consider you a "good person" if you have nothing else of desire, be it sex or a relationship. So when you've depleted …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 04:13 PM
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To be honest, it is socially acceptable to shame a man for not dating a single mom or a girl with a high n-count. That alone is enough to understand that there is of course something of an "obligation." This comes down to the usual covert vs overt discussion. A high SMV male has all the socially acceptable verbiage ready to use. "She's a really beautiful and fun girl, we just didn't click!" That's power talk. The take away is "she's a fat tub of lard or a slut, but I'm smart enough not to touch …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 04:05 PM
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FYI lollygagyo is an escort. Who disagrees with me, that (if she's honest) this ultimately restricts her ability to find a high value male. It is of course in her interest, to assume that all these men are misogynists. And not instead acting on biological impulses or research that indicates that partner count is inversely related to relationship success.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 04:00 PM
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I played on easy mode for a couple years, when I didn't understand what an immature market was. HUUUGE margins. WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! I was going for my BBA while I was in business and just applied what I learned in school in the field, every day. It was a blast. Then things got weird. Hey, where's all the profit? Perspective man. Hard to see anything but up when you can't pull yourself out and set your graph view to MAX, before you even were in the market. I have a respect for the market that can…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/16 11:06 PM
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Good luck with all that. I've been through a big winding down, it was hellacious. Yeah I'm ready to work for someone else or teach. Got it out of my system. Market knows how to put you to work, there's no way out of it. You're always someone's bitch.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/16 10:18 PM
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Wow, that's kind of wide open. Not even sure how to frame that. Not really, you're in the game pretty heavy. Just imagine that you could swap anyone (within reasonable approximation to your SMV) for you into the game to tap in. How much higher than 10% can you drive that number now? LLCs are treated as pass throughs when you're not big enough. Good luck getting a business loan without an unlimited personal guarantee when you're small.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/16 09:55 PM
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Okay now could you estimate if you just represent any bloke? To further explain the marriage issue, I owned a small business for 10 years that I'm winding down now. Had we married, they'd be taking both houses right now. They are taking zero houses this way. We live in a marital property state, so exposing us through an unlimited personal guarantee would have been madness.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/16 09:38 PM
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I thought the intent was clear, that I was asking you to extrapolate out not based on you specifically. I am not married because of financial reasons, I've been engaged for a long time and we have children. Not sure what difference a piece of paper would make. Children are a thousand times more durable than the threat of court.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/16 09:30 PM
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I don't understand how you can be so adamant that monogamy is this oppressive structure then claim that less than 10% married of women would stray. Which to be honest is waaaay lower than even self reported numbers, which are 20% as the baseline.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/16 08:16 PM
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several different ones that RP doesn't account for within their framework and that pushes me to BP side of the equation Let me push you back into the red ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/16 05:53 PM
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Most women who consider themselves "modern" have no trouble paying their own bill. That being said they also would have no problem sticking it straight up your ass in court. So yeah, that doesn't solve anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/16 05:45 PM
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Yeah but you're comparing apples and oranges here. You're talking about something you can directly observe and measure. Most of the content on both of these subs is in regards to empirical pattern recognition and "experts in the field" exchanging their personal data to confirm or deny their own hypotheses and see if they confirm to a known model. You can't put attraction into an excel spreadsheet. But you can extrapolate from "lay reports" what is and is not working, in terms of for most men. Of…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/16 05:42 PM
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That's because it's not "screwing men" it's screwing the high earner. Source : My other half has a $2000+mo child support obligation to me. I am a man. If you're going to go in long, protect your downside boys.
/r/TheRedPill20/07/16 02:18 PM
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You can't say that it's impossible to get firm honest rates of hypergamy in human women It's pretty difficult to get, essentially every study has a variability range between 30-60%, that's HUGE variance. and also say that their rates are consistent with other species What I was referring to was the similarity between two different species, insects and mammals (rodents) that were both socially monogamous, with both demonstrating AF\BB. At least then your answer could be honest. "They're based on …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 10:27 PM
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Then the replies would be "based on what?" The starting point was that self reported studies pretty consistently show 25% admit to being adulterous. But that's self reported, we know the issue there. Other studies have gotten up to 50% as well, so I wanted to find something that could either poke holes in that or lend credence to that. It turns out that the numbers seem to be fairly consistent across specifies, when the opportunity to observe becomes available. If anything, I'm looking for studi…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 07:43 PM
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Definitely would be a good find. I think something worth considering is that the results were relatively consistent across two species, rodent and insect, when they were "social monogamous." Also showing preference for specific long term or short term mating body types. I think it's hard to completely disassociate such things when something like forehead patch size for an insect can predictability predict their sexual success rate. What I was looking for were rebuttals on the assumption and that…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 07:19 PM
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There's simply no basis for the comparison. Is this scientifically valid? No. Can it be used to debate, yes. Given that the "Trade up" mechanics seem to mimic observations of human beings, I don't find this entirely without merit. Even more interesting is that the pattern is consistent for two completely different species who display an usual trait (social monogamy).
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 07:12 PM
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Not entirely ridiculous. Lot's of dating theory is based on things like this. They can be used to spot patterns. For instance, 76% of mates "trading up" or cheating with an SMV disparity. This is anecdotally supported in the community, so the figure isn't surprising. Similar rates were found with socially monogamous flies.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 04:31 PM
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unsupported This is a socio-empirical debate. If you're looking for a study on such a thing, good luck. Despite being logistically impossible, it'd also be impossibly expensive and without volunteers.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 04:21 PM
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Pretty small selection of socially monogamous species.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 02:23 AM
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This is great, could you estimate the percentage of wives susceptible to you if you represent just generically the opportunity of an affair?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 11:10 PM
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You do seem to be the person I'm looking for. What I'm looking for is your perspective on whether or not AF\BB is practiced by all, or just the female disordered. How many married women have you flipped basically, and of those, what percentage would you estimate have attachment disorders? The number of attachment disorders approaches near 50%, as opposed to actual clinically disordered, which is more between 6-12% which does confirm with your percentage of n-count "freaks." I think you are a pri…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 10:43 PM
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The point of this post was not to binarily discredit some ridiculous notion that women are perfect. But rather that the rates of it are much more profound than I believed. The most shocking to me was that promiscuity was not affected by whether or not they were paired. This lends credence to the theory that AF\BB is innate and not like I thought possibly focused in personality disordered women. The data would support that roughly only 24% of women would be significantly immune to either AF\BB or…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 10:10 PM
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it's all the woman-hating misogyny that they take issue with. Agree with almost everything but this. They hate the hardest truths. They'll take the easy self improvement stuff and argue the really hard shit to swallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 10:01 PM
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Disagree, lots more people here open to debate and actually getting into it. TRP is an echochamber.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 09:51 PM
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That's great and all but it's not really providing any useful content to the post. If anything you're agreeing with me, and missing the actual margin of the debate. And then wifing up a girl with slut tells left and right. Do yourself a favor and please for the love of christ don't have children with her. Source : Guy with a woman with a much smaller number of slut tells. Slut tells I believe in retrospect are simply binary.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 08:45 PM
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Your posts do not inspire confidence to be honest. Is she a cc riding slut... not now... did she settle for beta... she thought she did
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 08:34 PM
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So, here is some context. In our society, personality disordered women are easier to spot and have been normalized by "feminism" or whatever. Agree. Also, personality disordered women are more likely to take a more blatant approach to life as described by TRP in terms of the BB/AF dynamic. Agree Therefore, TRP is talking about how to bed the majority of easier to bed women, who are more likely to have disordered traits. Agree, mostly. I don't think this is by design though, but instead by nature…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 07:54 PM
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She does not require her dual sexual strategy to be fulfilled by different men, it can be by the same man. Are you referencing AB and do you conform to my reply requirements? Experience sleeping with married women and an eye for personality disorders? High notch count? I don't think you really understood the OP. I mean you're making some points but I don't feel you swinging the axe on anything really, just kinda throwing rocks. I find your claim that TRP is designed in a way that maximizes its o…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 07:35 PM
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How do you apply that to AF\BB though? BB?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 07:31 PM
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This post isn't about PUA at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 07:19 PM
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Is it really "meant" that way though? I've never interpreted it that way. I've always read it as... The coolidge effect makes women unreliable to be in relationships with, they exercise AF\BB, you want to be AF. You can't be AF in an LTR forever, so spin plates, don't marry. This would be true also if only a small percentage of women were AF\BB (12-20%) and the mechanisms (mainly, attachment issue\validation game) only worked on that subpopulation. This would then be a self selection bias. I gue…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 07:17 PM
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Sure, but what is he then if he's not alpha? High beta?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 06:48 PM
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BV Beta validation
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 05:01 PM
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+2 Was recently replying to an escort who thought she would have no problem getting a "high quality man." Like hey, I don't care that you're into niche guys, but don't pretend you're ever going to find a high quality guy without lying through your teeth. The number of high quality men who would wife and mother a former prostitute is actually zero. I like to often say "non zero" but in this case, you're talking zero. Plenty of dysfunctional guys with decent jobs and looks would take a swing at th…
/r/TheRedPill17/07/16 04:35 PM
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Great porn but FYI that was staged. She has a couple videos and eventually did porn. That was not his first rodeo, nor his last. I know what video it is without even watching. Jewish chick with black dude. Best part about the series is that she is really not at all that good looking and when she legit went into porn you could tell she got in over her head. She wanted so badly to be a badass bitch but really was just a slut.
/r/TheRedPill17/07/16 04:05 PM
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Well in this case, she's basically his personal pornstar and whore to do with what he pleases. I'm personally into this, but would never condone or allow her to setup a date. It's not something she's agreed to, but I'd be open to it in the circumstances shown here. To me it's all about frame. In this case, as you're gathering, she's in his frame.
/r/TheRedPill17/07/16 04:01 PM
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That's a really shitty way to type out Quake 3 Arena you fucking faggot.
/r/TheRedPill16/07/16 03:17 PM
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This is the stupidest fucking thing I've ever read. Are you for real?
/r/TheRedPill16/07/16 03:14 PM
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Most people don't need help understanding that vague words aren't to be followed literally and that different people have different ideas on what they mean. Why would someone assume what they think is charming is what everyone else thinks is charming, for example? Or funny? You're discovering the reason that red and blue pill exist. Men who don't get it. In a world where women speak overtly, red and blue pill don't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/16 01:39 PM
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You're basically concocting a future "I need a lawyer" situation.
/r/MGTOW16/07/16 12:50 AM
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No, it works. If you read this and take it in carefully, what he's doing is actually operating in a feminine mode. He's playing his game, the way she plays games and beating her at it.
/r/MGTOW15/07/16 11:53 PM
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Do the same thing you did with the divorce. Keep her in house and have a "stipulation." This is an agree'd upon child support, custody and placement. Use the same angle. "Do you need me to help you become independent?" No? Sign right here. You can't sign it away, but you can obligate her to agree to something. Think of something you were paying for that she liked you paying for, like dance or something. "I know you don't want to depend on me for anything, that's very admirable of you. But I want…
/r/MGTOW15/07/16 11:50 PM
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Exactly. Shit testing is idealism. "If he were just XYZ, he'd be perfect!" It's shit testing on a societal scale. "I'd be much happier if XYZ!"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/16 10:48 PM
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Here's a better way to put it then. Do you agree that women shit test? Do you agree that when a woman is able to break a man down, the resulting man, and relationship, then fails?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/16 10:44 PM
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Me talking covertly isn't innate either. I don't think it's impossible for women to talk overtly, so why not talk overtly when the situation calls for it such as with logical debate? They are debating, in their innate form of communication. To them, you are the one who doesn't get it. While agree, debate should be inherently overt, the fact that the world doesn't see things that way shows that a debate must be fashioned in a way to understand this. That's why the most effective debates are ones …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/16 10:06 PM
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What exactly are you debating? not because of the content IS FUNNY TO ME. This? The point of the post is that humor is not the actual thing she's talking about. In terms of humor, she's talking about a showing of social skill. To put it simply, she's more or less talking about delivery. Also known as, smooth. Again, what's his social proof?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/16 09:58 PM
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Any thoughts on my point about progressing humanity? Not really. It's a strawman, is the discussion about differences in gender communication, or about who is more productive? Sure I don't mean they should only speak overtly. But when talking on reddit, why be covert? Because it is not innate. It's not their job to talk in your preferred mode of communication. It's both sides job to decipher the differences.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/16 09:19 PM
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The desire to have kids does not make a guy high quality. I'm saying the guy who has his act together, and hits all the other checkpoints and is willing to be a stand up father, is what is considered a high quality guy. Is Brad Pitt going to wife and mother an escort? No. Would a guy who looks like him? Sure. The difference between the two is what makes a guy high quality. I'm not saying you can't find a good looking guy, or a guy who makes money etc. You're just not going to find the guy with i…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/16 09:14 PM
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You're basically asking women to break the same law you wouldn't break, because you know better. You're asking her to essentially, equivalently, start dropping F bombs around the CEO. She's acting like a woman because she's a woman. Who gives a shit if they don't act like men. That's what got us into this problem, trying to pretend that men and women are the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/16 08:49 PM
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partner count. I know it limits my dating pool Not really, just TRP wishful thinking. It's really just a "that's personal" reply away from being washed away. my long term partners have all been very physically and mentally attractive men. I never stated you couldn't find attractive men. All I've stated is its unlikely you're going to find high quality men. That I suppose is a matter of preference. In terms of the norm, that would mean a guy who wants to start a family. I assume you're the child …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/16 08:46 PM
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One is better at progressing society more than the other, even if women help men be better in this pursuit. Strawman, never said this was about who was a more productive gender. I'm merely saying I don't believe that one gender is "better" than another. They are different. To say "men are better than women" I believe is bullshit. The same that "men and women are equal" is bullshit. At what? Men and women are different. Different is okay. Women are better than men at things and vice versa. To thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/16 08:30 PM
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I think its honest to say that women are less logical than men. I think it's also fair to say that one isn't better than the other. So for men to assume women need to speak literally I think is unfair. To US it seems absurd, but to THEM we seem dense. Like hey, I said all I could say to this guy and he didn't get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/16 08:16 PM
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What's abusive about flirting? Flirting is healthy acceptable social behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/16 08:15 PM
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if my partner starts flirting with other women. I'll just be all, 'Omg, babe, are you finally ready for that open relationship I suggested 6 months ago?!' Replies to soft dread with threat of nuclear option. Works as an escort. Hmm... I don't mean to be a jerk, but... that's kinda like fedora man talking about wanting HB9. And I'm not throwing poo here, just that I think you do actually represent the sort of example that TRP probably over represents of a woman with larger expectations than she r…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/16 08:10 PM
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It IS what they MEAN. It's just not LITERAL. It's a speaking difference between two genders. That's why when you speak to women they're always arguing based on what they think "you mean" when you're speaking literally.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/16 07:59 PM
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To be honest I didn't think the comment was intentionally brash. I don't think the poster understands what they are asking. They are literally unable to realize this is a semantic debate, not substantive like they think. The use of the word autistic was literal, as in, being unable to grasp the connotation, undertone, context etc. It is descriptive, not pejorative.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/16 07:01 PM
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This strikes again at the root of my primary discussion which is why I think you're confused. It ALIGNS with the reply I made. A woman says she wants a man who is Independent Funny Charming Sweet Good looking* etc You can find a million of these guys. Dime a dozen. Problem? They probably are also lacking severely in one or more compartments. The primary complaint you'd expect would be that he is "a good guy just..." which means he lacks "frame" or confidence. The 2nd complaint you'd hear, which …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/16 06:56 PM
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"He's everything I've been looking for, but there's no spark." meaning not attracted.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/16 04:44 PM
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girlfriend's boyfriend doesn't last more than 2 minutes. BB, so?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/16 02:49 PM
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Your reply is that 80% of men don't have a low sex drive?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/16 02:48 PM
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What you're interpreting as "alpha" are men with attachment disorders (from their disordered childhoods, because of their disordered parents), usually NPD.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/16 02:46 PM
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As with most things blue pill, it's not about what is OVERTLY communicated, it's what is COVERTLY communicated. OVERTLY this is what is communicated in terms of these two items. Be of good appearance, dress well, good hygiene etc. Work on "communication" There will be a lot of talk about of course "dating within your league" but even some people dismiss this. This is a way to just outright avoid the 80\20 rule. So rather than outright start overtly discussing how 80% of men are considered below …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/16 02:39 PM
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They're playing life on easy mode Uhh no. It's an LTR without the ability to next.
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