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People can feel awkward rejecting people, especially someone they will continue to see in their daily life. It seems like a pretty cut and dried case to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 08:22 AM
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A gay friend of mine was chased by a group of skinheads with a chainsaw. He was so terrified he ran through a glass door (he showed the scars all over his back from the glass crashing on top of him, really close to severing very important nerves). A group of girls had to physically form a circle around him to protect him. A bit of an extreme story, and I can't claim credit, but there it is. This was during highschool for a bit of context, at a house party.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 04:49 AM
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Pretty much every time, it really goes against the grain
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 06:57 AM
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I should but I get treated like a filthy 'pick me' betraying the sister hood when it's not remotely true. It hurts my feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 12:55 AM
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The majority of the jobs you mention rely on physical strength and/or aggression/testosterone. So no, I wouldn't do them because I would be playing to my weakness and not my strength and that doesn't make any sense. But I don't suffer from the delusion that men and women are the same. Equal, but not the same. When I see arguments from women that male domination of these fields is due to discrimination I internally laugh and think she's a moron. I would never say it though, because it would just …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 12:32 AM
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Yes I agree about real life interactions, but I'm not looking to meet anyone, just focusing on myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 05:16 AM
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Hey I actually feel the same, I like the way you phrased that. The men here just don't believe it so we try nut out the hypothetical hot guy. That hot guy has nothing on 'THE guy' though. BUT.... My THE guy doesn't want to call me, maybe I'm not THE girl for him. So anyway, back to pixels on a screen.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 04:53 AM
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I would define it as trying to get as big as possible by any means necessary, health be damned. What you describe is great.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 12:07 AM
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I can see the proportion issue for sure, I couldn't quite put a finger on what was wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 11:50 PM
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https://www.glamourmagazine.co.uk/article/see-what-men-and-women-think-is-the-perfect-body Here's an interesting investigation. The women's ideal is still far too jacked for my taste
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 11:02 PM
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The tiktok generation has completely warped standards for themselves and their partners. Attributing the body dysmorphia of one generation to women at large though is a mistake. I deleted my tribal man reference as thought it would be controversial btw
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 10:55 PM
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I guess it's too much to ask that they realise that no amount of effort will turn them into Chris Evans? All you can do is be your best self. I'm never going to look like who ever it is men think is the hottest, pumping my face full of filler won't ever change that. Chasing that look is immature and unmasculine on top of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 10:48 PM
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Yes I've heard of him, he has a maximum 5yrs of life left the way he's going, it's sad
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 10:36 PM
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This is the reasoning behind some women getting huge breast and ass implants, to similar effect. It never looks as good as what they're trying to emulate, and is an active turn off for many men. The superhero leads also have incredible faces and are tall, you need the whole package to pull off the heavy muscled look. Even then they look cartoonishly jacked to me, it's not natural, they've been juicing and it shows. Makes me think of heart attacks and shrinking nuts.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 10:12 PM
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Surgery can fix that, the effort is earning the money for it, research and recovery. Up to you to decide if it's worth it going that far.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 09:52 PM
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Yes of course we care, yes we like muscles, though nowhere near to the extent of the current gym bro culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 09:45 PM
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You don't care to meet them, it's not enticing, it's clinical and off putting. Men relying on their pictures is also very unmasculine, it's an ick.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 04:10 PM
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OP is arguing that women's standards are unreasonable, I'm arguing that's just an artifact of a system that removes a crucial vector of attraction. Also arguing that a whole gender is unreasonable is frankly retarded. There are absolutely reasons, they are just flying over OPs head. And your head if you choose to go the 'unreasonable femoids' route.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 07:26 AM
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I just don't think that's the same, men are far more excited by pictures. That's why they prefer porn and women are into erotic fiction
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 09:55 PM
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A great bio isn't enough either, you can hear his voice, feel the chemistry, the 'vibe', so much is completely and utterly lost.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 04:39 AM
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As someone who's always been attracted to older guys there are so many points you miss the mark on I don't even know where to begin. I want someone who knows more than me, otherwise I get bored. I admire street smarts and life experience. That's a lot easier to find in someone older, though it's not necessary true just because they're older that's for sure. I also want to be psychologically out gunned if I can put it that way, otherwise I very easily become dominant, and I prefer to be more in t…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 04:17 AM
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I've said this before, and I will say it again, women don't feel attraction to men through online profiles. It's a horrible medium for dating. The only guys who tickle the hindbrain in any way are the top 10%, which IS NOT the case with meeting people in real life. I really feel for you young people these days, things are fucking jacked out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 03:58 AM
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Dude, you're handsome
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 11:41 PM
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Six shekles and a herd of three score ewes, or he may not come to my father's house 😤 Serious answer: enough to maintain himself and take me on a coffee date.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 11:39 PM
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Research actually shows the chances of improving from hardship is about 50%, the other half are broken by it. They haven't been able to establish what determines which way a person will go as far as I'm aware, but some thrive and some never recover.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 02:20 AM
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The hypothetical needs a minimum of believability.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 12:30 PM
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90% of women aren't doing this shit to the level this guy is, unless you're on Instagram, then of course things look that way. All the women that don't need internet validation appear invisible.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 10:14 AM
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A female equivalent of this guy is an influencer with the full gamut of enhancement posting bikini thirst traps. Are you telling me guys see her as wife material?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 09:58 AM
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This guy has carefully manicured himself to appear as attractive as possible. It's not just the body, it's the styling posing photography, social media presence. I'm exhausted typing this, he's insufferable. If he's red pilled it's because he's out to spin plates and use dread game. A marriage minded man just doesn't do this sort of thing, and even if he did, ew not for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 09:40 AM
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Marriage will be a partnership of you meal prepping, waxing his taint and operating the spray tanner while he flexes in the mirror. A true meeting of equals. Don't you want to click now?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 09:34 AM
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Maintaining that body is a full time job, you can't convince me a guy like that is looking for a monogamous commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 09:24 AM
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I find people with rigid timelines are immature and have very little life experience. They also lack imagination. My only requirements are that a man is self sufficient enough to live on his own means. This means making enough money or pulling enough strings (eg scholarships or grants, not living on his parents dough) to pay his own way, look after the place he lives and his health. He also needs to be motivated enough to be working at something beyond the bare minimum, and improving himself in …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 02:45 AM
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But I've already pointed out why this might not be a fair judge of chemistry. The only true test is the whole shebang.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 11:20 PM
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It's fine to screen for what you want, but I don't think it's good to make blanket judgements about women who don't fit your type. All you can say is "she's not what I want because XYZ might mean this and that".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 10:58 PM
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In my fantasy the bad boy neurosurgeon wins me over by growing a conscience and proving this by firstly apologizing to the chair (what kind of an intro is this??? It's not sexy at all). Before that not even just the tip. This book sounds like it's in the horror/crime/suspense genre not romance to me. Full disclosure, I used to write romance fanfic for a very popular fandom. The theme was enemies to lovers wholly dependent on bad boys redemption first. Pre redemption bad boy had his dream girl pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 10:35 PM
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What if she is really really into you but because of this she's shy/nervous? What if she thinks she will get carried away and it's too soon? What if she's inexperienced? Don't men prefer low N women?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 10:17 PM
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_triad I don't think we're talking about the same thing
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 05:49 AM
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I'm well aware that affection and physical touch is a human need. Also I've heard the girlfriend experience is very popular in sex work, so I get it, it's often more than just the libido at work. I think it's much more common for men to go long periods of time without any physical contact whatsoever, especially if they aren't around people who hug in greeting. It's a human need that goes far beyond sex or romance. Maybe getting a regular (non sexual) massage appointment could help in the mean ti…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 11:16 PM
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I think it's very possible to establish a morality universal enough to be practically applicable to most people in most situations in daily life. This basic universal enough morality emerges from the universal facts.There is a basic fact that there are many beings, and that they share an environment while trying to meet their needs there. Not harming others where it can be avoided is pretty fundamental, I don't see how you can argue against that. I don't see how you need religion for that. Even …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 04:47 AM
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What is morality to you? Where did you get that position from? Why? I think my point of view is pretty easy to understand. I don't need a book of religion or philosophy to tell me rape/pillage or murder is bad. I CAN get that from my own sense perceptions and thinking brain, and yes, empathy. But I do understand some people like to lean on books to justify such things. Anything can be twisted to mean anything, to the point a nun throwing a newborn baby into the kitchen furnace thinks she's in th…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 04:03 AM
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It's also a lack of concern for others, it's possible to be very ambitious in pro-social ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 03:05 AM
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It comes from having eyes ears, a prefrontal cortex and in a healthy human being, compassion. No religion required. The basis of morality is not causing harm to others if it can be avoided. Religion can in fact mask unnecessary harm as necessary through dogma. In that way it can bamboozle the natural senses. Of course some people need to be told what to do, they can't think for themselves. They can't take the well being of others into account. Those people need religion as a crutch. But this can…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 02:19 AM
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Believe it or not some people don't need religion to tell them killing, stealing, lying etc is bad since it's obvious. Lack of religious belief isn't evidence for lack of morality. Likewise religious beliefs aren't evidence for morality either, just look at pedophelia in the Catholic church, the Irish laundries where they have found mass graves of babies and young children etc. and all the other various atrocities committed in the name of God, Allah or who ever. Of course I would have been burne…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 01:36 AM
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Dark triad traits indicate strength, when in an environment with dark triad individuals the safest place is in their good books. In a tribe environment the only safe place is to gain their protection by fucking them. Hopefully, even that is a precarious position for obvious reasons but it's the safest bet. There wasn't an option just to leave the tribe to go it alone or find another one. Just a variation of Stockholm Syndrome.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 12:52 AM
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Thanks Freud, I'm more into evo psych though. In our ancestral past when women couldn't prevent pregnancy and being very dependent on the care of others for at least a couple of years, avoiding men who weren't strong benevolent providers was an act of survival. Psychological instability or weakness in a man was unfortunately a potentially life changing liability. I have to add I've never experienced the ick from a man being emotionally vulnerable. BUT enough men have said they encounter it so I …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 12:08 AM
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The difference between a man getting irrationally angry and a woman getting irrationally angry is upper body strength.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 11:46 PM
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The whole ick thing is based on self preservation. You can't expect a person acting out of self preservation to take your needs into account. It's much easier to feel compassionate when your safety is not threatened, and that's the foundation of the whole ick phenomenon, the drive to avoid danger. It's not as frivolous as people make it out to be. It's instinctual and animalistic, just like people avoid people with visible skin conditions or get terrified by spiders even though most of them are …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 11:29 PM
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This just looks like juicing gone wrong, not into it at all. A female equivalent of this look would be Katie Price. Some guys would be into her but many more prefer something much more natural looking. But if you're enjoying doing your thang and you're happy don't let that stop you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 10:14 AM
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Some women go the whole nine yards. I never did so meh
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 05:20 AM
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Yes for sure, that Brazilian wax is for their female friends
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 05:19 AM
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I vote ignore the pearl clutchers. Yes age gaps can be suspect, but not this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 04:45 AM
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You broke the half your age plus seven rule (by six months). Go to jail, go directly to jail. On a more serious note I really think the age gap hysteria has jumped the shark. I don't think a 27 yr old can groom a 20yr old, that's just ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 04:34 AM
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Maybe very unnatractive people socially isolate more so you don't see them at social functions. They also tend not to get hired for corporate gigs, we still very much live in a lookist society. But maybe it's also the case that normal men end up feeling ugly because they don't get any interest. It could be social media induced dysmorphia too. If you look at r/amiugly hardly anyone is, they're all just insecure.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 10:12 PM
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How so? The point is simple, men don't take into account that women also have to put a lot of effort into dating via working on their appearance, which is both time consuming and expensive.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 10:04 PM
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I've heard multiple men report the opposite on both counts but maybe it's pointless for me to make their argument since I'm not a struggling man.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 10:00 PM
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Where I live in real life people are smart enough to reserve judgement, it's only online that people suffer from oral diarrhea
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 09:46 PM
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I've seen many men say otherwise, all their self improvement didn't change anything for them dating wise. Also women don't like men with little experience with women. It's better than just wallowing in mediocrity though 100%
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 08:33 PM
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I haven't seen this tsunami you speak of. I have seen overwhelming disparagement of single mothers though to the point of ridiculing the idea that for some of them it's not their fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 08:19 PM
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Spending years on self improvement while not having any relationship or dating experience is also not particularly ideal for men either. You can't develop relationship and pick up skills in a vacuum.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 08:16 PM
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The more complex the selection process, the more horribly it can go wrong. Dogs get cancer, but atoms don't get cancer. Men get a free pass for so many things because they can just bail and run and not be left with the consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 09:57 PM
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To men reproduction means ejaculation, it's beneficial to look for positive traits because it spreads the seed. To women reproduction means pregnancy, child birth and a wailing infant, it's beneficial to select for the best genetic material and protector/provider traits. Tight screening is crucial.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 06:52 AM
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Boohoo
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 02:19 AM
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I think we need to be more specific about what is 'emotionally vulnerable'. I absolutely want someone emotionally available. I also want a relationship where both parties can lean in each other for emotional support during difficult times, and be able to openly discuss issues and feelings when it's important. I absolutely do not want to be with someone who needs someone to emotionally regulate them in daily life. That's exhausting and I end up feeling like the mother. I have nurturing mothering …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 12:01 AM
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Yes, absolutely ALL OF THEM. I must have missing memories, maybe I need to see a neurologist. Honestly get fucked. But good faith response is that guy isn't average. OP is asking for advice for average men. An average man can hit the spot for a specific woman but not the majority. Most of my friends are with average men, I'm not attracted to any of their partners but they are, and that's all that matters. That are all clean, well dressed, have good social skills, and all of them are employed as …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 10:17 PM
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Unfortunately OP it's not so easy to define, women differ quite a bit, and even within an individual woman it might be hard to put a finger on what exactly about all of your specific combination of tangible and intangible traits coalesces into a yes or a no for her. Now add to that her specific life circumstances, eg she's in a relationship already, she's recovering from a bad one, she only wants to get married vs looking for some light fun... There's so so many factors. You only need to concern…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 09:22 PM
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I think you will find women want both elements, though the one you describe is more important, being attracted to the former is just being attracted to masculinity. But who knows, maybe you were salivated over by a gold digger, that's different.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 11:16 AM
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I like this post, men need role models, though in regard to Ramsey, I will never forget a lesson I learnt from a top chef, "if you have to scream you have already lost control". He runs his kitchen like fine tuned machine without ever raising his voice, in fact he is very soft spoken. Everyone has the utmost respect for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 11:10 AM
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Don't slip over
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 09:53 PM
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You just can't accept that it's YOUR drive intelligence and persistence that enabled you to accomplish what you have, and that poor woman you rejected WAS actually attracted to the real you, because that's the real you to the point she was standing in the proof of it. That's just sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 09:34 PM
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It looks that way if you can't get your head around the fact that dominant men are really really hot. The externals are signals of internal value, just like youth in beauty in women is a signal of their real value which is fertility. It might look shallow on the surface though.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 09:24 PM
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I think people should be free to pursue their happiness as long as they're not hurting anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 09:11 PM
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And if you have bad experiences with women by pursuing the wrong ones that's on you lol, it goes both ways buddy
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/23 01:13 AM
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Bitching about other people bitching I see...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 12:41 PM
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The truly ugly would rather be alone than be with someone as ugly as them, and that's fair enough. It's ok to have standards that you can't meet yourself as long as you're self aware. I think it's unfair to expect people to pair up all the way down like some cursed Noah's Ark.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 11:16 AM
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I don't mean therapy only in the traditional talk therapy model, I mean all types of self work, for example developing self awareness like you bring up. Sorely missing in these parts a lot of the time. It's very easy to point the finger, not so easy to look in the mirror. And ofcourse it's even harder if you're socially isolated which is increasingly common.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 10:19 AM
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Keeping the bad memories prioritised is an asset in terms of survival, but it's also the reason we get progressively more and more screwed up the older we get. There's therapy of course but some people don't want to , or don't realise they need to work on themselves. What I find interesting is men tend to want a clean slate in a woman, whereas women generally want a street smart seasoned guy. Unfortunately he is often seasoned wrong 😜 and no one is a clean slate unless they had perfect parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 10:11 AM
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Being attracted to a man because of drugs/money is the same as guys being attracted to a woman to use her like a fleshlight and never call her again. That's an extreme transactional behaviour that many refuse to participate in, don't get disturbed by it and take it as the whole picture. Healthy women love men for the gorgeous sexy hunky creatures that they are, and want the same things as men, eg companionship. We are just far more risk averse and selective, we are generally less horny so our di…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 10:30 PM
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Those are unhealthy people. I've personally never had a problem transitioning but I guess that's my bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 10:37 PM
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What you're saying here is men can fuck and feel absolutely nothing for a woman for a few weeks or months, where's a woman would be getting attached at that point and calling it a relationship. I agree with this, men can use someone physically a lot easier than women can.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 05:22 PM
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I think you and I are talking about very different things
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 05:18 PM
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There's actually a name for their specific mental illness, hybristophilia
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 05:11 PM
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Apps not made by Reddit themselves, for example Reddit Is Fun and Bacon Reader.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 12:32 PM
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People perceive exactly what the article says, that's why I posted it
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 12:25 PM
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https://www.manhattancbt.com/archives/4246/assertive-vs-aggressive/ There's a big difference socially
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 12:21 PM
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Aggressive vs assertive is an important destinction, but yes men get pretty privilege too
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 12:15 PM
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Then how is she supposed to take all of that into consideration if she has no idea?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 11:54 AM
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That's fair, there's no point in dating people you don't like
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 11:45 AM
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Yeah repulsive is a lovely mix of patronising but with sexual intent 🤢 generally much older but the age gap doesn't have to be that large to have that attitude
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 11:42 AM
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Many people use 3rd party apps because Reddit's official interfaces are so bad people would rather quit Reddit completely (including me)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 11:33 AM
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I mean I could read you Dante and you'd give me the same response, pointless discussing things with someone like that isn't it? Good day
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 11:16 AM
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No. Don't be emotionally slutty. Just like men don't like women who open their legs for every passer by, women don't like men who soften up for every piece of ass. Same reasons, because it's not special then, not exclusive. It doesn't indicate someone worth committing to.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 11:11 AM
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That's crap, you're just making excuses so you don't have to take a risk. There's loads of normal committed couples around that started out with the fun phase, it's probably the case for most of them. But yes, there's no guarantees at the beginning, that's why they call it dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 11:04 AM
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I think you're assuming that those 'games' and drama just continue endlessly, they don't. People want a partner that knows how to be light hearted and playful, life is hard enough as it is. This is the same reason women love men with a great sense of humour. You want to know that he can make you smile or giggle when you're pushing that giant melon out of your vag. A small thing that can make a world of difference in dark/difficult times.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 10:12 AM
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I don't think it's just lack of anxiety that's the problem. You want to build tension, you want to withhold a bit, that's a sign that you're dating someone within your own league. Men are like this too, they enjoy the chase and conquest, it makes the spoils sweeter. If a woman just lays down and opens her legs is that the same as someone who you won over and now submits in the heat of passion? This is the fun stage of a relationship, not that the rest of it can't be fun, but dating especially is…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 09:35 AM
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It's fine to question everything you read, some people however scream 'filthy liar'. It's made me less likely to share my point of view here, though I think those same people are probably glad.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 07:09 AM
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Personal experience is by its nature limited, calling someone a liar outright just because their story doesn't match personal experience is sheer arrogance
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 05:49 AM
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There's more difference within the genders than between them. I'm not sure if I 100% agree with this statement but it's food for thought. Well done for keeping an open mind and using observation. I've seen too many men here accuse women of being liars when they say anything that differs from the narrative they have established about women in their heads.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 05:14 AM
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It wouldn't improve his chances with me, and casual sex just isn't my thing. However, if he was someone I would want a relationship with anyway, it would likely increase the amount of sex, especially around ovulation. Hormonal contraceptives have always messed with me and condoms don't feel great and aren't effective enough to really relax, it would solve a big problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 02:22 AM
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I think their 6s are meant to represent the top 15% of society which isn't what we colloquially think of as a 6. Their 6 is everyone else's 8. Having said that their scale is still whack.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 12:40 AM
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I don't think it's disgusting to want to date no matter who you are and what you look like. I also regularly see men I find unattractive coupled up. Is that woman attracted to him? I don't know, but I hope they're happy. I also think it's quite well adjusted to not be sure about things you don't have direct experience in. To answer some of your questions, yes looks matter a lot, but they aren't everything and tastes differ. Yes women enjoy sex, but it's trickier, it doesn't take any arousal at a…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 01:24 AM
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Why would I move the goal post? It's far easier when they can dress, wash, go to the toilet, eat food without spreading it everywhere, sleep through the night, tell you what they need, and stop trying to kill themselves every minute of the day. They also start school. It's sooo much easier, ask any parent
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 12:19 AM
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I've only heard that here to be honest, I need to leave this sub
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 08:02 PM
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The tooth fairy!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 02:00 PM
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I don't care to get paid more, but it grinds my gears to hear some one who hasn't done it say it's easy. Also why isn't your back broken yet hmmmm? Can't be that hard, lol, I mow the lawn sometimes and it's easy! I picked up a few bricks that one time, why do men need to get drunk every night after work, isn't it nice being out in the sunshine all day? You built a block of flats not the fucking Taj Mahal 💅. That's what you sound like, a self centred moron.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 01:34 PM
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Have you had a baby? Have you been pregnant, given birth, provided the majority of care under age 1? Organised kids? They would be about 4+ at that point, the hard part is already long gone.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 01:10 PM
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It's ten times easier when you get to just give them back in a few hours. Also that thing about labor... Hate to break it to you lol... But those suckers come out of the hole that makes a penis feel nice and snug, and it hurts like a bitch, the whole damn affair hurts, violently throwing up three times a day for months, severely broken sleep for years, hormones making you want to stab the baby then yourself, some idiot telling you it's easy lol, it literally never ends
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 12:49 PM
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Fair enough
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 08:02 AM
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Meanwhile fertility rates are below replacement, a ticking time bomb of societal collapse. But yes, more women in STEM. To be clear I'm all for people having whatever career they wish if they can perform at a competitive level. I'm going to be flamed for this but having babies is important.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 06:23 AM
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I actually have to agree with this, you've changed my view.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 06:17 AM
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Wow that's pretty stunning, I wish them all the best
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 04:55 AM
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I'm pretty sure everyone here knows that
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 04:51 AM
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I'm saying it with appreciation of the pragmatic reality that it's absolutely fundamental and at the same time very taxing. I honestly feel like it's very easy to be removed from the reality of that in the west, especially for young single/sexless men (arguably the biggest demographic here). It's kind of like taking for granted the fact the toilet flushes and takes the shit away. People can't seem to get their heads around that I'm not putting childless working women down. I work too, I know wha…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 04:39 AM
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We live in a society that just doesn't value it, and so we are below replacement rates. I don't think people comprehend what that actually means for the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 04:17 AM
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There's more men in the workforce and they also get paid more for doing the same things, I'd say that's being dominant. You can argue not by much though.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 03:51 AM
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Your username is funny in this context
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 03:50 AM
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How many? What percentage? I was under the impression they are in the minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 03:36 AM
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It's not a thought process it's a physical biological process.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 03:11 AM
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Interesting way of comparing ejaculating to pregnancy, child birth and breast feeding. They aren't remotely equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 03:09 AM
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Yes everyone seems to have missed my actual point which makes me realise it was badly expressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 02:50 AM
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That's not at all what I said. I have small children and I also work. I'm addressing the incels who say women have no fundamental value in society. Giving birth to children is something only women can do. You seem to be aggressively misreading my point which I can only attribute to you being triggered. Take a chill pill my dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 02:38 AM
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You're not changing my view that men don't value the contributions of women, but I'm loving your input, upvoted.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 02:35 AM
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My post literally said women create ALL OF THE PEOPLE WHO EVER EXISTED, which you read as nothing for some odd reason, that's on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 02:31 AM
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It's possible to make a point without aggressive ridicule you know
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 02:27 AM
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Honestly how many women are in the engineering manufacturing and building trades? I didn't mean abstract things. I mean literal things. A little simplistic but I'm illustrating a point.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 02:23 AM
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I didn't say they do all the work. They dominate the workforce, domestic labour wasn't included. And 45% is still less. But yes excellent point. Women have the burden of reproduction and STILL work to contribute domestically and financially.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 02:19 AM
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Carrying, birthing and looking after small children doesn't require lots of work? 😂😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 01:42 AM
0

Exactly my point
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 01:32 AM
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In China there's also such a gender imbalance there are whole villages of single men. Some of them buy a woman to share, rape her to death, then buy the next one and so on. India also has a similar problem, female infanticide is a serious issue and the rates of gang rapes are really high. But it's true, all those women have to do is be there.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 01:25 AM
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I'm sorry you went through that
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 09:29 PM
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It's good you don't see it on the other side because it's deeply retarded. Women trying to guilt men into being attracted to them are misguided idiots, and they achieve nothing except maybe creating an echo chamber and attracting some ridicule. I don't think any man has become more attracted to them because of their guilt tripping. Please don't follow in those footsteps.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 04:59 AM
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You can critique a gender role and try to change it but you will never change what the opposite gender is attracted to. Gender roles can be distorted by culture in specific places and time periods, and for this reason they SHOULD be questioned to see if they're actually valid in a particular case, but they're not inherently arbitrary as a whole, let's not pretend that they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 11:12 PM
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No one needs to accept anything, but yes both genders are actually in the same situation. Women get made fun of for the fat acceptance movement and attempting to guilt men into liking it, and rightly so, it's a ridiculous thing to demand. It's exactly the same for men. If you don't like gender norms don't conform to them, just don't complain you don't get the benefits of conforming.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 10:51 PM
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I think misandry is widely accepted the way misogyny used to be the norm. As a woman I'm actually horrified, this is not equality and respect, it's swinging the pendulum of abuse in the other direction. This stuff absolutely influences wider social norms, and children basically mimic from a young age.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 10:38 PM
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They should only respond to 'gender policing' if they want to be attractive to women. Go ahead and be your true self, you're just not entitled to having people be attracted to that though. The same goes for women and what men like in the female gender. Women have to conform to male desires too if they want to be attractive, but no one is holding a gun to anyone's head. If a woman wants to be obese, shave her head and wear masculine baggy clothing she is free to do so, but do you think she has a …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 10:26 PM
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Sounds like I struck a nerve
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 06:41 AM
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This whole post and your argument are just ignoring that women and men aren't the same. We might have the same insecurities but men have testosterone to more easily push through uncomfortable things. Well at least they used to, there is an epidemic of low T men out there due to all sorts of reasons. A healthy man sees a challenge and gets a thrill from taking it on. Women want to select the best genes because the cost of repro is so high for them, so they sit back and let the men prove themselve…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 09:46 PM
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I work in a busy shopping centre and see dudes shorter than that in a couple all the time, though they're probably not far from average for their ethnicity, and their partner is rarely taller. So it's not a hard cut off, it's just a disadvantage. They do tend to be immigrants though and probably paired up before they arrived. The women they're with are attractive in an average sort of way. Their tiny kiddos are adorable. Make of that what you will.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 06:59 AM
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Sure, and you can still be hot under six feet 🤷
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 06:10 AM
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Those stats can be explained by a lot of the 25-29 yr old women having relationships with 30-35 yr old men, this leaving the same number of under 30 men at a loose end.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 03:32 AM
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Men continue to emphasise women are hottest at 18-25. That's a seven year window in a life span of 80 or so years, and that window happens very early, when you're dumb as fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 03:18 AM
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Well at least your attractiveness isn't so heavily dependent on a very narrow window of time. Let's compare the price of height surgery and a time machine my dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 03:11 AM
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Of course good social skills are basically acting, I have no clue about what they are like in their private life in most cases. But when you're turning down an approach someone acting gracious and cordial about it counts.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 10:39 PM
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I've met a lot of them, owners of very large businesses, prestigious galleries, someone word famous and idolized, and a couple of billionaires (they didn't all hit on me). I have one degree separation from the Epstein Island set, the Sultan of Brunei and middle eastern arms dealers, which weird to think about since I'm a suburban nobody. They have great social skills and are very socially astute. Then you get some that have just come into money, or they are very young and entitled and they wave …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 10:33 PM
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Some will, some won't. Attitudes in women vary from actual sex workers to women who won't consider those men on principle. If a guy has cash but not much else he will attract those closer to the sex worker end of the spectrum. I've been approached by those types and they got a sentence or two from me, I just try not to be too rude. I've stayed and chatted occasionally if they had a good personality for some good company and to let them down easier (guys with money are generally less bitter and n…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 10:08 PM
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I know someone that did this, he would publicly have a girlfriend and pretend to be a closeted gay with men behind her back. So his male 'friend' would interact with her thinking she was just a beard, whereas he had a running joke with her about spending too much time with his 'boyfriend'. Then he'd have back injuring sex with the guy (probably a bottom) and not be able to get it up with the girl because she 'is too fat', but really it was ED. It made me livid watching from the sidelines. I can …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 09:57 PM
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I didn't use to think this way, they just have been interested in more and testing boundaries too often, I'm pretty cynical now
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 10:36 AM
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The hell is wrong with you? Wow. I have enough standards to cut this conversation off thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 01:01 AM
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That's not true, I like a little jealousy, it shows he's invested. He just needs to manage it, and by the same token I would try not to trigger it too often.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 12:51 AM
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I think the insecurity as an insult thing is hurled around too much so people don't have to take accountability of their behaviour. And in any case being insecure at times is only human. It's normal to have boundaries in a relationship too. Dressing like a sex worker, having dating profiles, male friends, endless girls nights out are not compatible with having a stable relationship. Lots of women have enough common sense to realise that, but then again lots don't and act entitled. I feel sorry f…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 12:44 AM
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Jealousy is determined by level of investment and the persons self esteem. Investment is great, low self esteem is sad. Controlling behaviour is only cute if it's very restrained and respectful. Purposefully chipping away at your partner's self esteem is a red flag the size of Texas. Unfortunately some men don't just mate guard, they also try do wear down their woman until she is a shell of her former self. So yes in a healthy person a little jealousy is a good sign, but it's a very slippery slo…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 12:13 AM
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I don't find that to be the case, what is there to argue about 50/50? The maths?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 10:37 PM
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This exchange is cracking me up
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 07:38 PM
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Yes, but I'm getting government assistance while they are little, and I'm incredibly grateful. If I didn't have that option things would be very different and RIP my mental health. I just noticed you mentioned ER bills in another reply. We also have free health care here. I feel so awful for people living in places that don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 07:06 PM
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I've lived quite a few years in a partnership where they really weren't, it has been very very minimal. He has made more than me through out, and spent it on his toys (and sometimes on joint recreation out of his genuine generosity) but I've never felt resentment, the peace of mind is priceless. I'm already saving lots of money sharing house hold expenses vs living alone so there's the financial benefits at no cost to anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 06:54 PM
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And do it on the internet 😭😂
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 06:16 PM
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This is what I've seen happen over and over again, unless you have an unlimited budget every fucking material thing becomes a debate. I don't understand people who sign up for their bandwidth to be used up this way, it's so petty.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 06:13 PM
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No, I think he just means that women should shut the fuck up
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 05:49 PM
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I guess I just think it's tempting fate as most people's relationship skills need work and combining finances you're adding to the fallout of someone being unable to unwilling to put in that effort. There's also likely to be other challenges that need attention, adding one more doesn't seem wise. But I also think my parents' marriage has scarred me so I have a bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 05:40 PM
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Isn't this just a set up to fight about money? Finances are one of the top killers of relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 05:26 PM
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50/50 regardless of income. Any time I've leaned on a man for financial support he has been resentful and used it in arguments, and on my end my self esteem would go down even accounting for being treated worse. I've also been treated like shit and have had rumours spread about me that I'm a gold digger even while I was pulling my own weight (and just barely scraping by because my income has always been barely enough). I'm very lucky I'm in a country that provides financial support for mothers o…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 05:19 PM
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I'm just replying from a woman's perspective, I will leave it to men to set their criteria (which should be imho for a woman to also be supporting herself, but that's not what was asked)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 03:45 PM
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Oh Jesus that was ugly
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 11:18 AM
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If you're not making a consistent effort to support yourself financially you aren't dateable as a man. Not sure what's offensive about wanting the bare minimum of adulting. Now if the woman is requiring someone with enough surplus to give her a lifestyle it's a little bit different, and I think men are within their rights to judge and reject a woman like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 11:06 AM
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We have a lot of weak men, are they gay?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 08:54 PM
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You could say the same thing for men desiring young fertile women. No one should place their entire worth on how desirable they are to their preferred gender. Strength as an attribute also has many benefits aside from dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 11:16 AM
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Please spell out to me how this particular desire hurts people
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 10:50 AM
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Ofcourse, I meant learn what actions are best to take, and which mindsets to adopt, no one accomplished anything just watching others passively
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 05:14 AM
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Well I don't think that guys that can actually get dates should go into complete isolation, that's really the domain for the incels. You can be dating and actively working on yourself though, and yes we do stumble along in life and learn by trial and error as well. I'm addressing those men who seem to be overly reliant on responses from women to fix their problems. There is also value in getting validation, and learning relationship skills in non romantic/sexual contexts, which is frequently ove…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 03:30 AM
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I think it's 50% dating market response and 50% how satisfied you are with yourself and your life internally... and it's a self reinforcing cycle. But even without dating success, a mentally strong man should still be able to get on and extract value out of life without bitterness. It's an insurance policy against letting outside forces define who you are and how you feel about yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 02:59 AM
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it's in my biology to avoid promiscuous women Yep it is
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 01:37 AM
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He desperately needs therapy, he can only see the world through his childlike victim lens, I don't need to read everything he ever wrote
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 12:07 AM
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For sure, it's destructive, publicly promoting bitterness is not the way
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 11:48 PM
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It's one of the truly cruel facts of life that when you need help the most it's the least forthcoming. "If you need a hero, just look in the mirror" This is also true for me as a woman OP. It might be better to look for that acceptance from peers and animals rather than romantic partners. Baby steps. Romance is very often a cut throat affair for both genders, you really need to be strong within yourself to enter that arena and not get chewed up and spat out. As far as it being easier for women, …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 11:35 PM
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It's actually very sad, I feel bad for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 11:28 PM
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Naw, goals 😭
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 11:27 PM
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A guy can easily have a too high an N count. It makes me think he has no standards for partners. It also makes me wonder about his ethics (how many of those girls were blind drunk, rebounding, sex workers in bad circumstances) as well as if he has any self restraint (discipline and focus on a life goal is really important). Experience is hot up to a point, just like tall is great, until about 6'6... then it starts becoming a negative again.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 08:43 AM
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I don't want my adult son to be obedient to me. I want him to go out and start his own family. Saying this as a mother of a son.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 10:26 PM
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The diagram should be one large circle called "women in my family" and a much smaller one completely within it "the woman I fuck".
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 10:00 PM
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For society to function, and for men to have their submissive wives, functional families and strong healthy children they need to learn to see their mates through the same lens of respect and protectiveness as their mothers, sisters and daughters. Wild concept I know. RP men undermine the whole structure with their selfish adversarial attitude toward their wives. Enjoy the decline they say. More like pour fuel on the fire. But then they go to have daughters and it clicks that the decline is not …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 09:46 PM
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Oh I agree with everything you have said. It's a sad vicious cycle in a fragmented society. And I've tried to break that cycle over and over again, but I still make stupid decisions in love, and now I'm worn out. If I concentrate on myself really hard I still have a chance to retire in some kind of security. I'm done with dating and I'm embracing the single mum grind, I don't trust anyone anymore. But I still think this is a better outcome than a bad marriage. If I fail it's because of my own in…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 08:52 PM
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Every woman with a firefighter calendar on her wall will disagree, same with the whole man in uniform phenomenon. Those guys aren't assholes. And you're definitely not a woman so stop telling us what we like.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 02:17 PM
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I thought men don't want to be the betta bucks? Don't they want a woman that genuinely lusts after them? How does that happen when he's selected by the father? There's also a much easier solution to this predicament, for the woman to get a job and have her own income.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 01:48 PM
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Well maybe, I've never seen the healthy version you're talking about, sounds lovely. I've been abused a lot (because I've picked bad people to associate with, replaying childhood trauma etc). Good for you, I'm happy for you both. I really do wonder how common that is though, especially in the RP sphere.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 01:33 PM
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Andrew Huberman to the rescue!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 01:19 PM
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You're creating a false dichotomy there. Women want strength in a man. She will pick a strong, good and loyal man over an asshole every time. There's just not many of them around. I'm not trying to put men down here, it's just men aren't taught to be strong in a positive way anymore, and there's a lot of misandry around that just doesn't help.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 12:54 PM
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Women crave strong men. These guys look like a good deal on the surface but it's a poisoned chalice.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 12:33 PM
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My mother is psychologically broken, she has no will to fight anymore. She stayed for us kids to have an unbroken family but the damage to her has been severe. Your attitude is so so naive.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 12:29 PM
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Because divorce is so easy and problem free... it's more than financial, it's wasting years of your life you can never get back, and may never heal from
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 12:19 PM
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Mandatory? I should really tell my mum and dad lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 12:11 PM
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Being submissive and looking after yourself are not compatible. They're diametrically opposed. The essence of submission is giving over your will to someone else's better judgement. The only way you get looked after in that scenario is if the dominant party feels like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 11:49 AM
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I think he's hoping that she becomes smart enough to realise he's full of shit and men like him need to be avoided like the plague
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 11:48 AM
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Exactly, isn't that how you lock down a high value man?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 11:47 AM
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They don't have to be rapists or murderers to be a danger in a dependency situation, they simply have to be self-centred for that to happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 11:42 AM
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It's almost as if they can't think beyond their own dick
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 11:33 AM
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Well that's just it, you want a submissive wife because it's best for you, but what's best for her? Who looks after her interests? And that daughter gets to grow up watching her mother be used and mistreated. What conclusions do you think she will draw from that? Ask me how I know. Where will that next submissive wife come from? Ah yeah, from listening to Rollo's advice. What he's doing is disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 11:26 AM
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As a woman, relying on the prospect of finding a benevolent protector/provider is just about the same as stepping into traffic with eyes closed. It would be nice not to be run over wouldn't it? Fingers crossed! Might get lucky! Weeeeeee
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 11:13 AM
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You don't even have to be human strictly speaking ... r/dontputyourdickinthat
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 02:05 AM
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By your logic I should find Timothy Chalamet hot too and I don't, or any Korean idol, I could give you a big long list of famous men that do nothing for me
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 12:05 AM
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I don't find every movie star hot so I don't know about that, but you're right janitor is a no go.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 11:52 PM
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Ok I'll be a bit more blunt, I've worked out my ideal dick size and it's very close to the statistical average. I think this scenario is far more common than men realise. However, on top of this, as far as my pleasure is concerned, it has had a lot more to do with foreplay and the guy being attentive and romantic than his face or dick size. But maybe I just speak for myself. Obviously there has to be enough physical attraction to even get that far. Steve Buscemi is weirdly hot to me by the way 🤷…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 11:45 PM
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You're still putting too much focus on immutable physical characteristics, women aren't as visual as men, and that includes sex. It's what you do and how you make us feel that matters more imho
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 11:30 PM
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Men get so obsessed with this, they see a couple of size queens and extrapolate this to the whole female gender. Their attention is far better spent on foreplay. The whole girl inches phenomenon is pretty funny too.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 11:17 PM
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Or maybe an adversarial approach like that would put people on the defensive and make them more likely to act in the way you describe
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 03:40 AM
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I don't think that bringing sex work into mainstream social media was a good thing. Agreed, it's scary how unaware these girls are about the consequences. It's almost a trendy phase to have at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 10:54 PM
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Ask anyone who knows me how easy to manipulate I am 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 10:50 PM
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I think it's possible to want to do things and then have regrets. Some guys want to jump from a roof into a trampoline. I would be empathetic to their severe spinal injury. I would still recognise and share that it was a stupid thing to do, but I would be empathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 10:47 PM
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I never made such an assumption, I just think anyone being vulnerable deserves empathy, and it's her mistake for not recognising a pack of dogs when she's sitting at a table with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 10:37 PM
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That seems like her pragmatic attitude spilled too far over into her personal relationships. There's no need for a millionaire if you're already taking the steps to set yourself and your child up. Good to hear a nuanced view on this regardless.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 10:12 PM
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I use that language to illustrate what I personally should have to be doing to go through that many people given my values, though I realise it might not be like that for everyone. My shortest relationship was 5 years. I don't think there's anything wrong with being someone for a month and realising it's not working. But over and over and over again? That means you're not seriously trying to find something lasting, or simply never form a deep attachment. If you haven't had a relationship longer …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 10:05 PM
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I think a scenario where having a series of 3 month relationships for 12 years straight is a red flag. Just thinking about it, discarding people you're intimate with over and over and over again, it doesn't sit right with me. I think for some personalities it's fine but I would be concerned that person can't actually form a personal attachment. Again fine, but I don't want someone like that for a relationship. I form attachments easily so I have to be really careful about who I get involved with…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 09:47 PM
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I'm just curious if you would consider your friend for a relationship considering her history?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 09:28 PM
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I think both genders should be able to
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 08:57 PM
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This might be just a rumour but Leo DiCaprio apparently cares. Being ridiculed will do that after a while.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 08:51 PM
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Yep, it was definitely her mistake being vulnerable around people who have no empathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 08:44 PM
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Idk what the rules on polls are but I feel like they probably wouldn't go the way most folks expect them to 🤣 Oh that's exactly why I want to see them done lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 05:12 AM
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I'm probably the minority but we do exist, that's all I wanted to add to this discussion. Id love to see a poll actually, I wonder why this sub doesn't do that...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 05:08 AM
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Meh, I always preferred older men (7-15yrs generally), still do. But it's not some Joe shmoe down the road, they have to be more accomplished and sophisticated than me in some manner. More street smart. The average older guy is unappealing. I've also always preferred stable relationships, in that sense young men seem like losing prospects, always needing to sow their wild oats and shit. Now as far as men wanting younger women I can understand it being the inverse of the above, which honestly doe…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 04:58 AM
2

You sound unhinged
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 04:45 AM
4

Testosterone is also very sensitive to lifestyle factors. It's worth taking the time to learn how to optimise it. Not only does a good T level make a man way more attractive, they are far happier too.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 01:11 AM
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You mentioned that body fat distribution is uncontrollable in your original comment. That's what I was responding to.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 10:53 PM
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Central weight distribution is highly correlated with high cortisol. You may be used to the amount of stress you're under and might not perceive at as 'stressed'. I would be curious to see your actual numbers. Ofcourse it could be mostly genetic in your case but I really wouldn't assume that. Also the genetic component might just be a tendency to higher cortisol so you need to be more careful than the average bear. Even so, if your overall body fat % is in a good range you should still look damn…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 10:45 PM
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And if you ask men just as many like small ones as big ones, they're all titties, they just like perky ones that signify youth. Being healthy to be attractive is a really unpopular narrative though.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 10:29 PM
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Body fat distribution is determined in part by hormones. Estrogen deposits fat on ass thighs and upper arms. Cortisol deposits it around the abdomen. Keeping stress levels low and looking after reproductive hormones can control fat distribution quite a bit. Reproductive hormones are hugely impacted by stess, but also hormonal birth control, xenoestrogens and nutrition. Exercise helps to tighten up the waist and can build an ass. Keeping over all body fat percentage in a healthy range through hea…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 10:18 PM
4

The best kind of hot
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 10:04 PM
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I think it's the complete and utter rejection that bothers them, not the impossibility of physical sex. We're social creatures after all. We're psychologically primed to seek mating and dating. I think that's even more crucial for men as they have a higher tendency to become socially isolated, so their (potential) partner becomes more prominent in trying to meet those needs.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 09:31 PM
1

You really need to speak to her, not some stranger on the internet
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 08:04 PM
1

Woman
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 07:18 AM
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The real issue is that we have an epidemic of emotional immaturity of both genders (though men tend to be worse because it's not their strong suit by nature) so the above isn't easy. How can you identify a real woman if you aren't a real man yourself? Mature men are supposed to teach boys how to pick and handle a woman (and vs versa) but there's not many mature men around anymore. And obviously the pool of quality women is smaller too. It's very sad what things have become so you have my sympath…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 09:21 PM
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What effort is the woman making when she demanding the man comply with her every request and validate her every emotional whim? Doesn't seem like much work on her end. When someone doesn't feel valued or heard every tiny issue seems important. That's what's happening. She's emotionally immature if that's what she's doing but if you address the deeper issues eg spending more time with her, communicating more or considering her desires in more important things like living arrangements, the other l…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 08:55 PM
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Why did you edit my comment? That's not what I said. There's a middle ground. If you project that shit on every discussion you need to consider therapy. Each partner needs to make an effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 08:40 PM
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I can't speak for all, but sometimes I think she may just to get him off her case and buy herself some peace. Men nag for sex a lot, sometimes it's easier just to cave in? 🤷
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 08:33 PM
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I mean it's up to your judgement to decide which complaints are serious and which are frivolous. If you put all of them in the frivolous camp you're doomed to fail. Also consider that if you take care of the important deeper issues a lot of the daily nagging and neuroticisms settle right down, they were just symptoms of a larger issue. A happy woman doesn't do that. If she's still disrespectful and hen pecks you despite all your effort you need to pick a better woman next time, or you're just pl…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 08:21 PM
1

You responded to the original poster accusing them of derailing. Check again.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 08:38 AM
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No. Women can't leave a relationship until they're well and truly over it and have processed all the bullshit already. So it looks like it's a quick recovery but in reality they were unhappy and grieving for a long time by that point. Don't want to be blind sided? Take her complaints seriously and address them while you're still together.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 07:22 AM
2

I think you replied to the wrong comment
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 05:37 AM
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Just imagine your average girl then, this isn't about the exceptions. I'd make exceptions for Brad Pitt too.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 05:16 AM
3

I would love to see a poll on that, you're just one man
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 04:21 AM
3

My N count just got cut in half wow
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 02:31 AM
0

Do you own any sex toys yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 02:22 AM
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If you want to appreciate how creepy sex dolls are, just imagine a woman having a silicone boyfriend in the cupboard that she regularly climbs on and rides. She will likely keep doing that while you're dating and through your entire relationship. She might even have a name and a personality for him in her mind. Would you be comfortable with that? Would you not see that as bat shit crazy? Dildoes and flesh lights are one thing, it's about utility and sensation. Having a whole pretend person is...…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 02:02 AM
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"A lot of" is very different to average my dude. You might be in a very attractive/young area but you would have to be at a Hollywood casting agents office for this to be average, even then... Let's keep in mind the statistically average young person in the west is overweight.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 01:11 AM
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So Chad & Stacy are average where you are, interesting. Literally half of people are more attractive than these two... Wow.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 12:56 AM
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That's some serious curves, I had to go to body visualizer to see it lol, I have to admit I actually have seen women with that shape naturally so I take my corset comment back
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 12:11 AM
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Those proportions can only be accomplished with a corset, an extremely tightly laced one. Holy hell.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 11:36 PM
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Well done on persisting and not just using it as an excuse like some like to do. You're absolutely right, hormones can be balanced out, it's not permanent.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 09:56 PM
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In some places being healthy is inconceivable
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 09:53 PM
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Jesus Christ I must have been a unicorn in my younger years, I guess being not fat in the west is just unimaginable. Those 2cm of fat thin girls freak out about, and the rolls everyone has when hunched over still counts as a flat stomach to guys. Having a temporary food baby because of too much pasta that one time is still a flat stomach. You don't need to have no internal organs to have one, wtf.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 09:48 PM
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Oh fair enough, code monkey had an underpaid and overworked sound to me but clearly it's working well for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 09:09 PM
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You're overqualified, you should aim higher in life
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 09:02 PM
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People make better choices when their environment is better, what's so hard to understand? Look at Japan or even Europe. When the path of least resistance means walking a block or two to your local farmers market people end up eating differently and exercising more. Do you want me to repeat that for you again? The only way obesity can be tackled on a mass scale is through environmental change. Which isn't likely lets face it. The obesity rates will rise, because people are either stupid or lack …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 08:47 PM
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Most adults don't have that level of self control you know that. Put the Japanese in an American environment and you will get the same result. Individuals can swim upstream, but that has always been a tiny minority, it's not going to affect statistics in a meaningful way. I'm saying this as someone who has never been remotely overweight but residing in a similarly obese country (and it's not genes or metabolism or whatever excuse fat people put my weight down to). Staying slim has required a lot…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 08:05 PM
3

So how is men preferring white women show they date at their level?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 01:34 AM
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Did you miss the part where men prefer white women too? Maybe that's not a gendered thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 11:24 PM
1

That's not an argument
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 11:23 PM
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Sugar in everything. Environments that discourage walking. Boom. It will get worse too, until changes are made at a systematic level, which lets face it is unlikely.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 09:38 PM
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Did you miss the part that says non overweight women don't have a strong weight preference? Or are you going to twist that to fit your narrative too?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 09:31 PM
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On one side my grandma absolutely adored grandpa, he was a sweet helpful man, very handsome, tall, and very industrious. They were the first in the village to get plumbing in the house etc. I remember him being very affectionate and kind to everyone, he never raised his voice. She was distraught and grieved for a long time when he died. I think they were in their late teens when they married and he died at 71 My other grandma was very stoic, grandpa on that side was a piece of work, he kept caus…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 09:03 PM
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I hope you're getting some if you are surrounded by a cluster of sluts
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 11:26 PM
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This is a terminally online tier comment
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 11:11 PM
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That's good for you but don't call yourself a high value man, you're only cultivating the illusion of being one to exploit people.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 09:57 PM
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His response is sad, but I was already angry at her before I read it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 09:50 PM
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100% selection bias. You can't assume study participants are lying because it contradicts your personal experience. And even if both genders were lying that would make N number 6.5 at most, still not a lot of room for randos. If that study included gay men though... we all know how promiscuous they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 09:37 PM
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She's not a bitch for rejecting him, she's a bitch for being a disrespectful bitch.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 09:33 PM
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Why don't you just call that woman a bitch instead of attributing her bad behaviour to all women? Do you enjoy hearing some women say all men are jerks because she's dealt with a handful of them? What do you think of that woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 09:20 PM
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Dirty dirty sluts horribly soiled by wonderful successful men
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 09:15 PM
3

A 1000 men to 10 men would lead to intense civil unrest as men fight for access to a woman while the rest check out and refuse to work because they aren't getting rewarded by pussy. The women would be locked up with no freedom whatsoever. In the opposite scenario you would have 10 men living it up in a tent city with very nice interior decorating, while the women happily service themselves with garden vegetables when community dick isn't available.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 09:10 PM
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Evil? This is so funny. Those evil womens
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 09:05 PM
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Why oh why do you assume single women all have random Tinder hookups? With a median N count of 4 where is there room for that?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 08:54 PM
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No I give people the benefit of the doubt before assuming ill intent. Like I said, issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 05:54 AM
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Anyone so insulted by one man's clumsy attempt at portraying femininity has issues in my view
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 05:42 AM
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I appreciated it in its own way and I don't have low self esteem in the slightest, and neither am I redpilled. Your assumptions are out of control.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 05:26 AM
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No I arrived at these insights despite the brainwashing that I should be just like a man. And what looks like inherently chaotic to someone from the outside always has rhyme and reason they just don't comprehend it, so it's the man that is limited.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 04:51 AM
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I relate to his description quite a lot as a woman. Do you find me disturbing? Is my existence insulting to you? Am I a living red flag?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 02:36 AM
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If irrational was replaced with intuitive would you still have a problem with it?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 02:34 AM
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You just used the world icky to make your point, I hope you see the irony in that
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 02:33 AM
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Tell them (the gym bros) that, they call guys I think are pretty ideal scrawny, it's demented. It would be fine if they were doing it to compete in Mr Olympia, but they're trying to impress girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 09:25 AM
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Yes no doubt, it's now an arms race as to who can get more jacked (pun intended hehe)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 06:36 AM
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Then why am I attracted to guys in real life and not on OLD? What's the alternative theory? Also obligatory small sample size lol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 04:50 AM
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This study says that men and women differ on how much physical attractiveness matters to them, just not as much as the pre speed date questionnaire. So women underestimated the role of physical attractiveness, but it was still less important than it was for males.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 04:43 AM
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women aren’t that visual This is a lie though, they are just as visual as men. The difference is that men have to be really hot to meet women’s standards. they better be really hot to feel anything at all See this is proof of what I’m saying. Ok I'll give an example to illustrate: Let's say for a man physical appearance is 80% of attraction. A 5/10 looking girl already scores 40/100 attractiveness points on photos alone. Now let's say for women physical appearance is 50% of attraction. He would …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 04:18 AM
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Sure. Never been attracted to that in the true sense though. Maybe convinced to give it a try at best, so a yellow light. Humour is a winner but the funniest guys can also be the dodgiest and you can't gauge that form OLD as well as from real life. Meanwhile some guys photograph seedy but are wholesome in real life. It's just a bunch of no's from me dawg. If you look at the big 5 personality test women are much higher in neuroticism by nature, we are risk averse.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 01:09 AM
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You're assuming I said women make rational and fully conscious decisions. Attraction doesn't work this way. For women especially it leans intuitive/emotional. For men it leans sexual/physically based, which lets face it is far easier to understand. We can dissect women's choices in hindsight at best, and the younger the woman, the more her choices instinctual and unfiltered. The under 25s especially just shoot from the hip and think later (if ever). In the online dating market statistics prove t…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 12:13 AM
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No, it's just that men aren't attractive online. It goes against being able to showcase what women are actually attracted to. Women aren't that visual and even having a profile has a tinge of desperation. The whole black pill idea was born of an illusion that because women go for the physically hottest online that's the only thing that matters. In actuality it's the only thing that women can see, and they better be really fucking hot to feel anything at all. It's a big sad misunderstanding. The …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 10:49 PM
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Do you really think those women were answering questionnaires on whether they were beaten or not? Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 09:29 AM
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Beating women was commonplace, expected and even encouraged in some cultures. It still is in places where women have less rights. This dynamic emerges universally where men have more status than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 08:52 AM
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There's a name for what you're doing too, toxic positivity. Are you really saying the woman who's only choices are getting beaten regularly or homelessness should just be more positive? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 08:29 AM
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I would like brains for my mains, with a side of brawn or money (or both). Some femininity for dessert, eg. he also likes to suck cock (that's feminine to me shut up), wears pink shirts or is afraid of spiders. It's like salted caramel or a spoon of sugar in a pasta sauce. Perfectly balanced. But yes, brains please, with some fava beans and a nice Chianti.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 10:07 AM
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Yes undermine the family unit that your offspring relies on for their well being by completely screwing over their mother. Well done, slow clap for you maestro.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/23 01:27 AM
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The change in sexual behaviour you're describing is extreme, and world require some very extenuating circumstances to be explained. Is it trauma, a health issue, honestly that's not normal. Anyone that says otherwise is gaslighting. But if the woman did some kinky thing in the past but doesn't want to do it anymore she shouldn't be held to it. Sometimes we try stuff we don't actually enjoy to please and to fit porn standards, especially when young and impressionable. Having discovered it's not t…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 09:20 AM
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I know you have an axe to grind but leave me out of it, I never had a hoe phase and settled down at the ripe old age of 23. But to answer your question I freely admit I would feel very insecure if suddenly a guy who routinely gives head won't do it with me. It wouldn't go down very well, pardon the pun. But I would weigh that up with the rest of the relationship, on my list of priorities it probably wouldn't be as high as guys make sex stuff into.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 09:08 AM
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r/TinderData is very enlightening
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 09:11 AM
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Why do I feel like you're typing with one hand? Just me flying solo and its a struggle but once again I'd rather that then the alternatives
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 03:25 AM
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The very clear and undeniable experience that being single and at peace is far better than being in a bad relationship. It's not about the other party per se, it's more the fact that I'm perfectly happy being on my own, if I'm going to risk that contentment they had better be really special.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 08:45 PM
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You just said it's Asia, being that direct for a woman is probably taboo.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 08:43 PM
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Sounds like they're setting things up for you to ask them on a date and you never do. It's not crazy at all, they're just trying to make it super easy for you to make the first move, but culturally that's as far as they can go.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 08:38 PM
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That just looks like he's trying to win her back
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 03:25 AM
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Shame many men get completely put off by being pursued, but great in theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 03:20 AM
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I'm glad you found what works for you, the world would be a better place if more people managed to get there!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 01:11 AM
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I hope you don't think I'm judging you, I understand that people have different needs. I was just pointing that out purely for debate purposes
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 01:00 AM
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I think social media over states how much women like shiny things. I couldn't care less about watches, iPhones etc, I only know of one woman in my extended circle who gets gifts like that and gets a buzz from them. She's with a guy who also values ostentatious displays of wealth so they are well matched and I'm happy for them. They aren't the norm though.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 08:47 PM
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But you're still in an open marriage, it doesn't sound like your husband is enough for you, even if you do appreciate him for being good in bed
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 08:36 PM
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Increased libido doesn't necessarily change the level of desire to sleep around though. I'm late thirties and my libido is raging, I'd still rather be celibate if I'm not with the man that I love though. I understand that doesn't go for everyone and some women can switch approaches but don't assume that a rise in libido is enough to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 08:34 PM
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You totally expected the women here to wail and carry on as though we're entitled to the $$$ didn't you? Lmao Going Dutch is my preferred model fyi, it eliminates a lot of bullshit and the quality of the actual relationship is revealed. Plus I have self respect (and an income lol).
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 11:11 PM
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And I judge people on Reddit, get over it
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 07:52 AM
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We all know you'd go younger if you could get away with it
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 01:46 AM
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I think they were both 12/13, so the stupidity makes perfect sense
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 01:42 AM
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In both of those cases that's a childish cop out.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 09:03 PM
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Is she aware she's acting differently? That's half the battle. Is she mature enough to recognise that her mood swings cause a strain on other people? You're not supposed to be a punching bag for her to act out her hormonal problems with impunity. I often have cycles where there's a week of emotional/psychological duress. I try to apologise for myself because I'm well aware I'm being irrational. Please try to be compassionate, because even when you're aware of it it's really hard to keep a grip o…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 08:52 PM
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Nah. In the movie we're seeing him through the eyes of an escort so of course he's a romantic fantasy come true. In real life a good looking man like that who has many options but chooses to see escorts is seedy as fuck. It's like Leo DiCaprio, no woman sees him as a genuine romantic prospect, he's just a wallet now.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 08:42 PM
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Yeah that would work on me lol (if I was already interested ofcourse)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 11:11 PM
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The best place to get advice about this is from successful men, not women. Saying this as a woman lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 10:22 PM
6

This is false, on camera makeup looks like theatre clown stage paint in real life. They also use ring lights AND filters. They even admit that what they do doesn't work well in real life, and their every day makeup would look like shit on camera. On top of this fillers are designed to look good on film, they often look fake as hell in real life. Don't trust tiktok.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 10:10 PM
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I too often see men here interpret women's experiences through the lens of their own priorities and become enraged, and the rage of a sexually frustrated man is a menace. It's tiresome and alienating. The dating market is truly messed up, men suffer more for it but it's been a negative experience for women too. At a certain point you have to realise there's a common interest there but the flavour I get here is women = bad. Ok then, bye. I guess I need to vent too lol
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/23 01:00 AM
7

It would be interesting to do another poll on the gender ratio, to be honest I'm increasingly seeing this as a male space
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/23 12:17 AM
8

So is ppd the male equivalent? 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/23 12:02 AM
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Your logic on the murder stats makes sense though I won't lie, and I'm happy to hear it. That's the only place you have a point. The rest is just minimising or missing the point. Women would have PPD even if they didn't have a child? What? The hormone changes, sleep deprivation and potentially the physical burden of pregnancy/birth is what triggers it. Ignorant comment is ignorant and nonsensical on top of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/23 12:46 AM
3

Jesus I'd like what you're smoking 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/23 12:35 AM
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And before you think I'm such a compliant angel, hardly. My sins include buying Bitcoin in case I needed to hire a contract killer on the dark web, urges to kill my own baby girl and the persistent desire to hack my mother in law to pieces with a blunt shovel. I've had to learn to manipulate, use others weaknesses against them, reading The Art of War on the shit can etc. I'm quite familiar with the darkness in people because I'm well aware it lives in me. What defines me is the choices I make, n…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/23 12:28 AM
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I've been through some dark shit, the people I have dealt with belong in prison, though none of them are. I'm not naive in any sense of the word. It's made me a good judge of character at the very least. I fundamentally disagree all men are heartless and all women are good. The worst person I know is a woman and I've dealt with abusive narcissistic pedophiles. Her bullshit has caused so much damage, the way she raised her sons has been devastating to them, but yet she gets to act like such a swe…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/23 12:15 AM
1

There's a lot of injustice in the world, but don't let it poison your heart, it will hurt you just as much as anyone you attack this way. Be the change you wish to see and all that cheesy shit. Show them how it's done. If nothing else it becomes obvious who the culprit is by comparison. You might occasionally wake someone up.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 11:59 PM
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You know I don't stand behind dehumanising someone based on their ignorant opinion. Toxic as fuck and does a disservice to the cause.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 11:48 PM
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Yes exactly, that's how feminism began, there were immense sacrifices made by previous generations of women for me to enjoy the freedoms I do today. I'm forever indebted to their work.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 11:46 PM
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The risks of pregnancy and child birth are economic, social, psychological as well as physical. Also please don't forget to add the increased rates of domestic violence and homicide. For me personally the only place I would show up is perhaps a suicide hotline stat and that would never be officially linked to childbearing even though it 100% was. And then there's normal things like sleep deprivation, which is funnily enough used as a method of torture! Fun!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 11:16 PM
3

I never assumed you have
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 10:36 PM
3

That varies where you are in the world, some places are still in the dark ages, in others there's lingering inequality (eg wage gap) but the worst problems have been solved (sometimes creating new issues though).
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 09:28 PM
2

Own property, vote, leave the house on their own... Well that was before feminism anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 09:04 PM
3

Death isn't the only complication, that's an incredibly simplistic way of looking at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 08:53 PM
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That's a really fucked up judgement of someone who's just trying to put their life back together. Spoken like a true sheltered ass hat.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 08:38 AM
2

The same place chivalry did
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 08:33 AM
1

Ladies of yore carried sharp as fuck hat pins, and the law deemed that if she felt she had to use it she probably had due cause
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 08:31 AM
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The opposite of trashy I guess, I dont think it's that hard to grasp
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 08:29 AM
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I think the equivalent is "being a lady" which is basically an extra level manners to make the guy feel respected and valued, as well as social decorum so as to make him publicly look better by being high value date. Grooming and dress play into that too.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 01:55 AM
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Don't worry, I think all of God's creatures are wonderful, including you
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/23 06:49 AM
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Love is so far off the map for these guys it may as well not exist. Let them have their candy fix and later wonder why they feel so empty inside, some people have to learn the hard way.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/23 05:49 AM
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Maybe just accept it's not easy to meet women unless you're the top 10% that attracts them by doing nothing? Back in the old days the only way you would get your dick wet is to approach a girl's father with a proposal of marriage (or there's always goats etc). I hope you realise that things are better than they've ever been? The porn industry and western media makes it seem like everyone is wantonly fucking and that just isn't the case. The 5% of sluts from each gender fuck each other, the rest …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 10:28 PM
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Isn't there a study that shows emotional pain/social rejection is tantamount to physical pain? I can vouch for that. Women who tell men they should be able to just brush it off are emotionally obtuse. I see this around and it annoys me. Yes, there are some people are so hardened and compartmentalized that it doesn't affect them. For the rest of us it sucks ass. The only remedy is to fall back on yourself and make yourself happy, give yourself love, buy some sex toys etc
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 03:22 AM
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Birth = 1 million Age 11 = 300k Age 30 = 100k Your initial comment is actually correct. So is mine, most human eggs have disappeared by puberty.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 08:39 PM
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They also lose 70% by age 11 (300k down from 1 million at birth). Maybe Mohammed was right after all???
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 01:03 PM
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You're one hell of a writer, if you have a blog or similar please do let me know, I will lap that shit up like the nectar of the gods. Your acute perceptiveness guarantees your social currency. Please don't ever pin your entire value on the appeal you do or don't have to men. I realise what sub we are on, and that it's somewhat off topic, but it needs to be said. The world is so much bigger than that. It's painful to have these so called 'universal' experiences to be ripped away from us through …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 11:53 AM
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Fair enough, I don't know how you do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 08:12 AM
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Any sex worker will tell you very often the men are just lonely and want to talk. It's 10 minutes of actual fucking and the rest it's emotional support and connection. Many of those sex workers enjoy this part the most, it's what humanises the profession. I don't think there's anything wrong with this, make it legal and make it safe.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 07:37 AM
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The stretch of time when antibiotics were already around, but the pill wasn't , that was brutal for sure
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 06:02 PM
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He’s working 10 hour days and needs at least 7-8 hours of sleep. Maybe more cause he’s older and he’s overworked and that leads to depression, illness, fatigue, and mood swings (probably why he yelled at her). You do realise that women need the same amount of sleep or have the same consuquences right? Also, young kids have a tendency to need things during the night, sometimes constantly right? You are also, I'm sure, aware of the fact that the guy could have chosen to nut in his hand rather than…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 05:58 PM
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I think you're talking about a time where it was normal to tell the kids to fuck off and play outside all day unsupervised. These days in the west you would have child protective services and the police called on you. Where I live you can't even let the kids go to school on their own until they're 12. It's a little bit different trying to look after a household when you're constantly being pulled off every task and the cleaning is sabotaged as you go. Though maybe you have some degenerate lazy w…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 05:46 PM
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This used to happen regularly actually. My mother in law is the oldest of nine and described having to cook the family meals from age 7 as her mother was always pregnant or tied up with a new baby. Brutal existence. This still happens in places where contraceptives are banned.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 05:40 PM
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You force the oldest to be pseudo parents just to cope. Often those kids lose their childhood very early. It's not natural to have that kind of child to adult ratio. In our distant past you would have the whole tribe keeping an eye out.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 05:35 PM
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Nah I have two kids, and my girlfriends also have one or two and this behaviour is pretty standard. It's all cool in principle but then you try to leave the house and you get guilt trips and passive aggression. There's always an undertone of "you're the mother, I'm above this" even when we work.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 05:32 PM
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Yeah I can see what you mean about the community thing, misfits trying to find their place
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 05:37 AM
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Attractive people don't publicly advertise they're poly because that would make them a creep magnet. Ugly people want to brag to the world that someone wants them. I don't think what we see is representative.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 05:24 AM
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I hope it gets abandoned en masse as a failed experiment.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 11:01 PM
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Can't upvote this enough. That's the issue of online dating, pictures alone are completely counter to how women get attracted. The vibe, the wit, the physical presence ( and maybe pheromones) are all completely lost. No need to impress with numbers when I'm already looking up at him. Men are now trying to compensate for this with getting jacked, while it helps (dad bod is a formerly fit guy that's a little out of shape, not rolled shoulders and a spare tire btw, let's not skew this fact with the…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 10:47 PM
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By your logic those are the only types of men in relationships. I hope it's obvious how ridiculous that is.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 11:55 PM
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Have you considered Kegel exercises to tighten up your pelvic floor? He will feel bigger and you will be more orgasmic.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 04:48 AM
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I'm not arguing your feelings. It's just an interesting topic for me and I'm brainstorming mostly. Yes I can see that, this topic is taboo and people get very heated so it's hard to find any actually meaningful discourse on it that wonderful hormone testosterone has quite a few downsides such as confusing fuck and kill I didn't quite get that, but it's a pretty important hormone not only for men but for women as well. Ofcourse both genders have T it's just the average male has at least 10x the a…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 11:08 AM
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Hey you can explain it as rationally as you like, and all of that makes complete sense ... and all of that I was perfectly aware of back then, I was tested as having an IQ in the 140s around the same time... Yet the same way as those men couldn't help but look, I couldn't help but feel exposed and unsafe. We aren't a perfectly adapted species, we are born completely helpless with heads far too big, etc it's not that much of a stretch to imagine the age of sexual and mental maturation don't perfe…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 10:50 AM
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Well yes, mostly they checked me out sexually, that's enough to be disturbing to someone who's mentally still a child and half their size. There were a few incidents of inappropriate touching, and one of being followed for several blocks by a guy jacking himself in his car (terrifying). But yes there was a lot of involuntary looking and uncomfortable tension.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 10:20 AM
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I felt like I was being visually molested, it felt weird and wrong in a horrible way. Not their intention I'm sure but that's the experience of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 09:36 AM
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Think whatever you want, it doesn't change my direct experience. My understanding of it is men start looking when puberty hits, and biologically that makes sense. I didn't like it and most of them probably felt a bit uncomfortable about it too so I'm not accusing anyone of anything. Fact remains though as soon as hormones hit I was on the map. I also have to add I was completely asexual until about 17 so it wasn't me projecting my horniness or something like that. One minute I'm a child, the nex…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 09:27 AM
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Men started looking at me when I was 12. All types of men, everywhere. It was very disturbing. I was a very typical looking kid with braces and pimples, nor did I develop early. It is a typical experience sorry to confirm it for you. In fact it's hard to tell when I got more looks, as a tween or at my so called peak of 18-23.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 12:41 AM
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We did all wake up with a smartphone at some point and our lazy monkey brain thought online dating is the way to go. That's the real down fall, the genders have been at each other's throats throughout recorded history.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 02:23 AM
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It's a vicious cycle, isolation is extremely damaging and self perpetuating.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 02:21 AM
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She's a little below average and there's nothing surprising about her outcome. She had enough positive features for someone to find her to be just their type, eg height and long legs. This person is arguing that guys can get a universal 1/10 if they only lower their standards. I think at the lowest tiers the ugly people simply don't want each other, and are often not willing to accept the lookist poor treatment to get someone a bit above them. Julia and her husband really don't fit into that arg…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 02:15 AM
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Her being a virgin for so long kind of undercuts your point a little don't you think?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 01:58 AM
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I don't see them as remotely close to 1s. They are 5s in middle age, completely normal people.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 01:46 AM
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Women aren't as desperate to match with someone as men, that 1 with a realistic SMV assessment probably prefers her cats to being someone she isn't attracted to. Even unattractive men treat ugly women poorly, it's just not worth it for tepid lights out sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 12:57 AM
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This is my view too, I'm so sorry for the young ones and the self esteem hits they take daily via social media. They are riddled with insecurities. I was too, but it's so much worse now.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 10:46 PM
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This sounds like rejection/abandonment trauma from childhood. Also you may have the anxious attachment style. Being rejected isn't ever going to be pleasant but being as affected as you describe indicates you need therapy and to learn to give yourself the validation and self love that might not be coming from others. Ignore those that say 'just get over it' they're completely ignorant about matters of mental health.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 01:12 AM
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Yes I agree with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 10:36 AM
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People change over time, and also I don't think it's feasible to correctly assess every red flag ahead of time. Hindsight is 20/20 of course but that doesn't help if the intention was to never make a mistake does it? Judgement is clouded by the flush of being in love and excited. All sorts of things happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 10:31 AM
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Yes absolutely I agree, and we need to interpret divorce statistics in that light imho. Although I've heard arguments that marriages based on societal obligation are the 'strongest' because of all the external pressure to stay together despite the quality of the personal relationship. What's termed pure love/romance could also be based on ephemeral feelings for immature individuals. I don't believe love can conquer incompatibility either, not without a dire cost to each individual. And if so isn…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 10:06 AM
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People marry for all sorts of other reasons, like financial advantage, family pressure, status, tradition, religion or even to just have the princess bride fantasy wedding.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 09:49 AM
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I think it's wrong to define the success of a relationship by its length. People need to get away from the thinking that not bring able to sustain one for the rest of your lives means failure. People grow and change and learn different things from each other. What's the point of beating a dead horse and making each other miserable if the connection has outlived it's natural span? People can also seperate and remain friends, and continue to care for each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 09:24 AM
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He could have said that, instead he said women want to be submissive slut wives for the enemy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 09:20 AM
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Every advantage counts, you could say its... tAcTiCaL
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 08:22 AM
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Can confirm, am Ukrainian woman. OP should also check out enlistment rates for the genders and shut the fuck up
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 08:11 AM
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I mean successful as in satisfied, however they define it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 10:55 PM
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That's not true, I've seen short guys talk about being successful they just get ignored
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 03:37 PM
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You think you're way smarter than you are
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 08:31 PM
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Right, a lady that posts exclusively in men's rights and anti-feminism. Nice way to turn the mob on me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 08:03 PM
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It is
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 09:59 AM
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Sure babe
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 04:32 AM
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Question for women
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 02:30 AM
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Oh I paid for everything don't worry.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 02:25 AM
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But only on mars
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 01:16 AM
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Oddly shaped nose, close set eyes, grey hair, weak chin, whiny voice, you name it
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 01:13 AM
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I love that it's a citrus tree the whole time lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 12:42 AM
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To the point that the weird feature they have becomes automatically hot on anyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 12:40 AM
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Agreed!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 07:33 PM
1

Leo doesn't look like his T levels are anything to brag about
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 07:17 PM
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How ironic then that he's the bloated washed up carcass
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 07:07 PM
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Those models don't think they're not good enough, they think he's ridiculous and/or pathetic. Maybe if they were shut in girls with no other man in sight that shit might fly. They tolerate his sadness for the lifestyle. Liberace's fanbase was housewives. Leo is a Hollywood A list, heir to Jack Nicholson. It would be bizarre for him to beard a frumpy older woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 07:03 PM
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Ok then, the complete degenerate narrative plays well too. If you're that damaged by porn and casual sex that you have to do that when you have a model at your disposal... Why even have the models around at that point? The more I think about it the more broken he seems.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 06:50 PM
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That's ok
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 06:36 PM
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Filthy hot but closing his eyes to concentrate on his fettish. Mkay.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 06:31 PM
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Yes I have been since I was 2, I've had a lot of practice 😊💪
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 06:29 PM
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I checked out of caring about your opinion a while ago fyi I'm just telling my story
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 06:26 PM
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Ask Elton John and Liberace. They could get away with it for decades. I'm not saying I know for sure he's gay, it's just that narrative fits just as much as the official one and I just can't dismiss it. Anyway he probably does half hearted bedroom stuff with them so it's not in the open that he's gay. What HAS leaked is his bedroom performance consists of him laying back with noise cancelling headphones and closing his eyes.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 06:19 PM
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Why would Gizelle want the attention? She's a long way above any of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 06:11 PM
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Thanks for the empathy friendo
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 06:10 PM
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Yes I did live and learn. I still have ongoing trauma from thinking I know best. Now I don't trust myself and I don't trust society to guide me. The world is a cold brutal place 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 06:07 PM
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I'd watch a biopic about Peter lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 06:03 PM
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Yeah he really transformed into someone else in his early 30s and lost all appeal. It honestly looks like coke bloat, he's visibly unhealthy. If he looked after himself he'd still be attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 06:00 PM
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I resent that I was deemed old enough by society to make a decision that I was completely ill equipped to make. I was a child still, it's so obvious now.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 05:56 PM
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There's an enormous difference between spilling Trump's political secrets, and Leo's bedroom stuff. She would get black listed by the people who make or break her future career. The Trump betrayer will gain a whole new following. A model leaving Leo's fold at 25, world famous and having multiple contract offers has very little to gain from spilling it all to a tabloid. No one will want to work with her if she can't keep her trap shut.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 05:52 PM
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I think dating within 3 years is excessively restrictive, you miss out on a lot of good people that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 05:47 PM
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Good observation! He's the og K-pop guy before real K-pop guys. I had a monster crush on him at 13.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 05:45 PM
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Yeah as weird as it is to some its still mutually beneficial. The people who take issues often think there's abuse behind closed doors though. That man from Granada seems cool as hell.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 05:44 PM
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Ah man. When I was 18 I got engaged to a 34 yr old man. I really thought I was old enough to make that sort of decision. It was a predatory relationship I just couldn't see it. So you can stand up for my right to have done that as much as you like but it was one of the worst mistakes of my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 05:41 PM
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No more than they care about any celebrity having a scandal.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 05:38 PM
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If the grandmother is heavily in the picture I think that's a big protective factor.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 05:36 PM
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The models get a NDA and a career boost, while making him look good. It's mutually beneficial, why would they out him? His heart throb days are loooong gone, it's bizarre to think that he's catering to that audience since it hasn't existed in decades.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 05:34 PM
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That kind of makes sense considering he's close with Camilla's family and the mum has been travelling around with them. She probably shopped with her daughter during the day and had lunch with their lovely secretly gay benefactor.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 05:31 PM
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I've tested this rule across all ages and it seems right. It avoids the predatory part of age gaps as when the younger party is in their teens the older can be max 24 (for a 19yr old). Fourteen year olds date within the year. It gets a bit weird at the oldest ages for example a 100yr old and a 57yr old is strange, but not I'm worried for their wellbeing strange.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 05:28 PM
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Internalised homophobia and wanting to project an image of success to compensate for internal emptiness and misery. There's multiple reports that when he 'sleeps' with women he just lies back with noise cancelling headphones and closes his eyes. He also looks tired and over it at the parties he attends every night.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 05:25 PM
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Sorry dude but cat calling does feel threatening. Ive never worn tight revealing clothing, just average casual clothes. Casual clothes in the west reveal the body. Large chested women can't do anything to hide the fact. Some even try binding and get chest reductions because of the harrassment. The only way to truly avoid being seen is wearing a burqa or similar. But upvoted for the rest of your post because my ex partner is 6'5 and had a very similar experience to you growing up.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 05:17 PM
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I just think it's odd that you view women as such an immense threat, but I'm not in your shoes I guess. Some anxious types want to avoid any possibility of anything going wrong. I hope you get the happy family you're after
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 05:10 PM
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Yes ill have a period too! I like your enthusiasm
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 05:08 PM
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Ah for fucks sake. My brother was locked inside a fuel tank for four hours in pitch darkness screaming for help. He thought he was going to die. My ex partner had to be taught boxing so he could fight off the boys constantly beating him up for being taller than the rest of them. A gay friend of mine was literally chased down by a gang with chainsaws and had to be surrounded by a group of women so they wouldn't cut him up. He's got scars all over him from running through a plate of glass in terro…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 05:00 PM
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Well that's a heartwarming read I won't lie
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 04:48 PM
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If so I think this is honestly the best route for you. You are so deeply entrenched in hating women there's no point for you to even attempt the traditional way.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 04:45 PM
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Grandparents typically can't cope with a baby or a toddler full time because they're old and tired. They're happy to take them for a day at most then hand them back. Having also already raised a child they know exactly what they would be getting themselves in for. Your mother would have to be in exceptional health, and then she won't be for long because it will take an enormous toll on her.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 04:37 PM
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Go ahead, I really hope you learn this lesson the hard way. Also, please report back!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 04:32 PM
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That's the dupe for the ultraceuticals one, I need to try that ty!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 03:03 PM
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Good reminder to stick to the tried and true. I've been religious with my sunscreen my whole adult life and that's paying off so far, just need to try adding tretinoin once I stop breastfeeding. Cheers!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 02:54 PM
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Damn! Any secrets to share? I'm always collecting tips
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 02:20 PM
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Eh it all caught up to me when I had my first child, but interesting experiences nevertheless.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 09:40 AM
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This 100%. I remember confusing some juiced up bros once, they thought I was around 21 so it made sense to them to pressure me to get drunk. The look on their faces when they found out I was actually 30 💀. They left me alone after that. Maybe the number turned them off lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 08:39 AM
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I agree with this reasoning, but have to point out both genders are liable to this blind spot. I find that people age remarkably differently based on their genes and lifestyle. I've met people in their mid forties that looked like others in their mid twenties. Unless you ask a lot of assumptions can be made. The other day (on Facebook) I saw a woman complain that no one took her seriously even though she's 32. She looked like she was late teens max.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 08:21 AM
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She has a warrant against her, likely she knows some shady types and maybe someone has a vendetta against her, and also knows she can't go to the cops. It would be weird for that to happen to a person without a criminal history though.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 06:48 AM
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How do you know his age?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 06:41 AM
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Yes, the answer is deceptively simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 11:02 PM
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I 100% agree what you bring up is central to it, without it men wouldn't give a damn about women beyond sex, and children, or society at large. You can't be a protector and defender if you don't give a shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 11:01 PM
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You should share yours as well, mine is obviously not definitive I'm just having a crack at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 10:53 PM
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A masculine man is action oriented. He sets goals to better himself and society and pursues them relentlessly. He is disciplined, rational and hard working. He is protective of women and children. The traits of being confident, sociable and outgoing are symptoms of his internal drives rather than goals in themselves. In that sense the masculine man is detached from the outcome of his purely social image and endeavours. This detached non chalance is sexy as hell as it shows deeper priorities. Pic…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 10:49 PM
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I don't think there's enough examples of healthy masculinity, so the dark triad , true masculinity's sick cousin gets idolized. Women also prefer the distorted masculine to no masculinity at all. I partially blame this on feminism (and I say this as a woman who believes in equality of the genders). What you have described is the true ideal imho.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 10:30 PM
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Just pointing out there's a good deal of complexity behind a simple statistic like who files for divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 10:24 PM
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The person who doesn't think they're above paperwork
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 09:53 PM
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It just shows how little many men value the labour of the stay at home partner (usually the woman). Put it in monetary terms and then it's shocked Pikachu face.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 09:51 PM
1

So if your girl has a period so will you? I don't really care if you want to hold false equivalencies but the fact remains that you have to pay the woman you think is your equal to date you. That should be proof enough if you were willing to face the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 08:39 PM
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Well that's fine, you're kind of proving my point that money needs to be involved to get that kind of woman, and since you can afford that power to you. Fit women aren't a match for fit men in any society though. Men put on muscle so much easier and don't have to get pregnant and bear children. Men hunt wild animals, women gather berries etc. A gym body woman is a luxury. Go look at pictures of any traditional tribe and you will see what I mean. Some women even lose their periods or get high and…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 08:29 PM
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The female equivalent to a fit guy is a girl with a healthy BMI not necessarily fit. The fitness standards have always and will always be higher for men because of higher T levels and biological roles. Your looks match isn't a fit girl sorry to say. Fit girls are for the elite.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 08:15 PM
1

I'm familiar with that sub
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 08:01 PM
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You are entitled to reject whom ever you want but someone 1.5 points below you (allegedly) isn't an insulting match
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 08:08 AM
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I would have to see photos side by side to determine the accuracy of your rating. Also dating within 1.5 points is common.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 07:26 AM
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Wow ok thats not good
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 02:06 AM
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Yes I know. They claim to be attracted to the majority of women, but they trash talk the ones they actually get.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 12:12 AM
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Or maybe just appropriate. Men always bang on about the reason women can't get a ltr is that they're aiming too high.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 12:08 AM
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Projection through and through
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 12:05 AM
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Ah yes, women the picky gender...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 12:04 AM
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Fake scenario as everyone has said. Also she literally says in amazement that all the guys are so handsome and cool about two thirds of the way in.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 03:10 PM
1

I think that more angles we study human behaviour from the better. Im fascinated with this kind of way of looking at it too
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 07:51 AM
2

For me it's part upbringing and part observing people and myself over a long period of time. When I was less mature I was inclined to think that just because I have good reasons for my view means that I am right and others are wrong. Ofcourse it's sheer arrogance to think you understand everything about everyone's life, or even on a more basic level, deny their free will. Despite that I still hold firm opinions, as to be adrift without that would mean a directionless life.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 06:06 AM
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He's giving all his critics the middle finger and having a laugh with his friends about. I get the impression he finds the controversy hilarious.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 08:11 AM
9

In my own head
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 01:57 AM
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I don't shame anyone nor do I celebrate it, privately I disapprove but that's my own personal opinion and no one needs to be subjected to it. Just because I think it's wrong doesn't mean I am entitled to tell others what values they should hold.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 01:37 AM
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I think people are so used to seeing women in make up that when they don't wear it they are told they look unwell. The eye gets used to the heightened femininity as the new normal. It's even worse now with ubiquitous photo filtering.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 12:35 AM
3

This reminds me of that husband department store analogy except it's a wife store
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 08:02 AM
12

People will be what we currently see as mixed race and men will continue to be 4 inches taller than women. That's my guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 07:55 AM
12

Exactly, naturally submissive for the right man at the right time. It feels like a relief, but it's not a simple thing to achieve because you have to be with someone who you trust to have your best interests in mind as well as have good judgement. A benevolent high quality man is what brings out submission.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 06:51 AM
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I believe it is wrong and that's why it's hard to admit. But I also think the effect is waaay over exaggerated. I hate seeing people think being a beta Bux automatically means the woman isn't really attracted or appreciative of her man. Also an ideal man is a mixture of the two, that's the happy medium.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 10:32 PM
0

In this context with her flirting and touching I wouldn't say that at all
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 09:55 AM
2

From a woman, that's not a no, that's a maybe.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 09:22 AM
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I don't see what she said as rejection, more like she's still unsure. It seems like she's a bit of a coquette too, likes the flirtation and being chased. No guarantees on this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 09:16 AM
1

The whole point of this entire post is the conditions under which children grow up.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 07:43 AM
1

Those kids still grew up within a marriage, this isn't the gotcha you think it is
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 07:37 AM
11

Not enough people are having sex, but the ones that are, are doing it wrong!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 04:15 AM
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Kids before marriage is though, in the west anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 04:14 AM
2

I agree with parenting licenses and such in theory, but unfortunately I wouldn't trust implementation to not be corrupted by someone's selfish or bigoted agenda. That would honestly lead to some nightmare fuel dystopian scenarios. Forced sterilization has already been abused historically. Yet the current issue of broken homes and irresponsible parents needs to be addressed. Unfortunately humans of reproductive age are pretty fucking dumb and the casual sex culture isn't helping.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 04:13 AM
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That sounds about right, people have become the commodity. It's very sinister and it needs to be stopped.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 09:17 AM
1

Can you expand on this?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 09:03 AM
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I'm not sure why you're grilling me on this, I've barely spent any time learning anything about him and the controversy
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 08:57 AM
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Seeing something as valueless and exploiting it is two different things. In one case the person is left alone/ignored, in another they are enslaved. This is an escalation of severe proportions. But anyway I can't take him seriously, he seems like he has trouble forming sentences, maybe a few too many hits to the head in his fighting career. Brain injuries tend to produce personality changes and aggressive behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 08:20 AM
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Are feminists suggesting men are property?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 08:15 AM
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https://youtu.be/4qA6kTs4Jog From the horse's mouth, I can only assume a portion of his followers agree with his position
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 08:08 AM
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They also want to treat women like property? That's his shtick, maybe it's related.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 07:57 AM
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He started a MLM business, Hustle University, so he's promoted by the people who are in it to drum up income for themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 07:27 AM
19

So the female version of you isn't attractive enough for you
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 12:56 AM
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You must be trolling
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 09:08 PM
1

5'10 is not revolting
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 03:37 AM
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I know you're just being honest and I appreciate that, but I really hope your wife never reads this.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 01:17 AM
1

Ok but they're probably more attractive in real life not less...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 07:42 AM
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I know you aren't asking for sympathy or empathy but you have mine. It's a lot to deal with when you have trauma as well as no healthy role models in your immediate vicinity. You have an opportunity to break family patterns and decide what values you stand for, and I wish you all the best in that. I hope you will find a worthy partner who also shares those values so you can build together what you never had as a child.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 07:21 AM
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Rationally speaking the money is what's most relevant in the modern age, but evolution takes thousands of years unfortunately and six packs and height are still just as hot. As far as picking a partner in life all three take a back seat to more important stuff, as long as the raw physical chemistry is there (I don't recommend anyone start a relationship with someone they're not physically attracted to).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 05:39 AM
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It makes you come across as obnoxious and lacking intelligence, both very unattractive traits. Since you're roasting other people's attractiveness it's hilariously ironic. I hope that cleared that up for you, I'm not surprised you needed it broken down lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 05:28 AM
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Yeah I agree with this. I think women have to take more ownership of the fact that they're picky and hard to please rather than blaming all of it on men. If you can't take responsibility of your part in it you have some growing up to do. Everyone needs to learn to make honest but flattering profiles though, it's obviously a bit of an art as both genders get it wrong majority of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 05:19 AM
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I've recently downloaded Tinder for the first time just to have a look at both genders, women filter and blur so much you can barely tell what you're looking at. At least the guys photos tend to be fairly representative, though often unflattering. The women go to town with the artifice and its way too far in the opposite direction.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 05:10 AM
1

You sound entitled as fuck, and I'm a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 05:05 AM
1

Just one of those is really attractive, women who require all three have lost touch with reality (i.e terminally online)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 04:45 AM
1

It's only an issue if he has other feminine features too for me personally
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 02:34 AM
4

I've never hated myself and I needed to learn self love. Sometimes it's self neglect and ignorance rather than self hate, if OP doesn't relate don't push it on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 02:56 AM
1

You become what you hate, you become entrained by what you focus your attention on. It's my sincere belief that men who focus on their own worthiness and desirability are happy on their own and have no trouble attracting a woman from that state of fulfillment. Success breeds success and so on.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 01:10 AM
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I don't think that's true, just self love is completely foreign to many people, it's something they have never been taught.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 01:06 AM
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There are more relationships in the world than a romantic one, you need to have your emotional needs met by all sorts of connections. Even if you found a compatible partner the relationship couldn't handle the pressure. There's also self love. Give yourself the love you want to receive from other people, it feels amazing and people gravitate more to you when you are fulfilled.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 01:05 AM
5

I love balding men who shave it all off, but still have chest hair.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 04:43 AM
1

You need trauma counselling, not to attack people on the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 04:01 AM
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No one owes anyone anything. You could walk past a person dying on the street and not help, and it's not against the law. The thing is married partners are supposed to care about each other. In theory lol. Crazy right?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 04:00 AM
1

Regularly? I don't think so. When it does happen it's because the physical size (too big or too small relative to her vagina) causes a serious sexual incompatibility, not because it looks bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 09:25 PM
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It's not more common for women not to get sex, it's just more shocking to them. Guys that have dead bedrooms are more often silent because it's a known hazard.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 02:50 AM
1

My god, just read, I called those women idiots
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 02:17 AM
5

It's more that you don't have an automatic advantage any more, the playing field between the genders becomes more equal at 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 01:58 AM
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They're about equal. There was a post recently where most women liked 'ottermode' and 'built fat' in 50/50 split as ideal male physiques
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 11:07 AM
2

I don't think this is a gender thing, rather just two different ways one phrase can be used, and the confusion this causes.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 10:25 AM
5

The entirety of Europe is communist by your definition. Take a visit there sometime, travel is great for broadening the mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 09:27 AM
1

Whoosh
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 09:16 AM
2

Go to bed young man, you probably have school tomorrow.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 09:09 AM
3

I come from the Soviet Union. You don't really know what you're talking about but have a nice day.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 09:06 AM
3

Are you 12? You sound 12 to me. Nothing wrong with that, young people have opinions too, it's just you don't seem to grasp any of the points I'm making.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 09:03 AM
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The only US politician I jive with is Bernie Sanders. If there's ever Bernie Sanders land I would happily visit there . What I'm not for is telling other people how to live. If Republicans want to build Republicanland they should be able to go ahead and do so. Then maybe they can stop forcing their ideas on other people... Just like everyone else is doing.... People need to seriously grow up pronto.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 08:57 AM
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I'm not sure how I have anything to do with any of that, especially considering I'm an immigrant here. Why on earth do you think I support everything my country supports/supported through out all time? You should read what white people did to the Australian aborigines.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 08:53 AM
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Not every western country has 350 million people spread over most of a continent, most have populations far smaller than that. But I'm for decentralizing governments everywhere to be honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 08:48 AM
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It is to 16yr olds.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 08:40 AM
2

It's messed up the world over, thanks for noticing?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 08:36 AM
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As an Australian watching from the other side of the globe I completely agree. I don't think it's right to force such a huge and diverse group of people to live under the same rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 08:20 AM
3

100% accurate
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 03:49 AM
1

It just seems like click bait to me and I've never come across that opinion before. But maybe it is wide spread which you seem to claim, it's just that article isn't proof to me, I've seen all sorts of niche retarded opinion represented this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 03:22 AM
1

I know they're not all carbon copies, but they do tend to be a lot hotter than average
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 03:07 AM
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5 minutes during which you see maybe a dozen top porn actresses bodies before you select the one you want?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 02:50 AM
2

I'm bi and I preffer visible labia, it's not insecurity buddy it's just not a common presentation for it not to show at all
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 02:11 AM
3

Those aren't my opinions either
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 10:35 PM
1

Someone making a click bait article over some now deleted twitter cesspool shenanigans is not going to make me retract that statement. But technically yes now I have come across it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 10:34 PM
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I 100% agree it's sick and very destructive. I guess I'm a bit out of touch as I'm in my mid thirties. They also just seem like kids to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 09:23 PM
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Well you just diagnosed it as terminally online and I agree with you. Human brains are wired to have their expectations set by what they see all the time. Still calling Jason Momoa average is a new level of delusion I haven't come across yet. I can only imagine those girls are VERY young and trying to one up in a conversation. I just can't take an opinion like that seriously at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 09:14 PM
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Having labia show isn't abnormal, the vast majority of women do. Having no labia showing is rare, most women can only achieve that through surgery. Have fun being celibate I guess, it's your choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 09:07 PM
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A conch shell is not common in an adult woman, if you're going to value that above other types of vulva that's a top 10% anatomy there. A 5'4 man is of below average height, probably bottom 10%. A better example would be a woman refusing to date anyone below 6', and yes I would consider her an idiot.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 09:02 PM
2

How small is that subset? Enough to call them outliers and perhaps irrelevant to general discussion? Or are we going to focus on them for some bizarre reason?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 08:55 PM
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Women who have hard height requirements are idiots too. Also note the destinction between preferences and hard requirements.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 08:52 PM
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No they're not, 70% are overweight or obese. The average woman is on the cusp between overweight and obese. But so are the men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 08:46 PM
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You're guessing. It would be interesting to see some actual stats.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 08:43 PM
8

Is Walmart the only place you go outside lol?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 08:43 PM
5

No, it just means the women take a lot more into consideration than looks the get an idea if they're truly attracted or not. Why do men complain that women wont give them a chance, but when they actually do they're offended?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 08:41 PM
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Resist projecting the opinion of a few idiots into a whole gender please.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 08:39 PM
5

You're either a troll or not genuinely into women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 08:38 PM
1

Ah yes, if a woman trusts a man with her body he is then entitled to do what ever he wants with complete impunity, because whatever happens is all on her. Got it. Men have no agency! They have no responsibility in treating the person they're involved with consideration. I mean yes, if we were in a lawless society with no principles or values sure. A massive anarchic free for all where no one considers anyone else in their actions but themselves. That's what you're promoting. 👍 I'm not saying the…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 08:17 PM
4

Nailed it
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 10:51 AM
5

It's not any different to a guy realising that a hot girl isn't worth it if she's disloyal and would prefer a more average looking woman with the right personality traits. It's about wisdom. Guys ego's just can't handle not being the hottest one, they all want to be seed spreading alphas. Well news flash, women want to be the prettiest girl you've ever laid eyes on, but how often does that actually happen?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 10:45 AM
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If you want to be a lowest common denominator degenerate go right ahead. There's always a few of those at the bottom of the barrel.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 10:29 AM
1

Taking a woman on a date just so you can fuck is a covert contract. The honest thing would be to hire a hooker. A date is for getting to know someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 10:26 AM
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So it's ok to fuck people up because they're responsible for getting themselves well again and not passing it on? Who started this exactly? The aggressor or the victim who might not process it very well?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 10:19 AM
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A guy with a compatible personality would be able to read that pretty easily and let you get comfortable at your own pace while enjoying your company. You're not missing out on anything if you get abandoned by someone who can't see the person in front of them for all their preconceived ideas.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 10:12 AM
3

Here we go lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 05:02 AM
4

It is a reasonable standard in a vacuum because all you're asking is for someone to be healthy. But if everyone is normal weight other health indicators like facial symmetry and teeth come to the foreground. At the end of the day men want the highest quality partner they can get, just like women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 04:51 AM
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That's only because 70% of women are overweight or obese in the west. You're saying the standards are on the floor but only one third of women qualify, that's not really on the floor now is it? If all women were normal weight there would probably be extra standards added to once again differentiate between them as new problems begin to stand out. Go to a country like South Korea and see what it's like there, being thin is NOT enough because almost everyone is already. Probably hard to imagine in…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 02:54 AM
1

I think that depends on how mentally resilient someone is, not every one learns to ignore it, some people find it soul destroying. Their upbringing probably has a lot to do with which way they go.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 02:34 AM
1

This fucking hilarious because the person you responded is a short fat dude that gets laid a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 12:52 AM
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I think you would be bitter too if your life was completely limited by your physical appearance through no fault of your own. It would take a lot of mental adjustment to arrive at a place of acceptance. People are lookist and treat ugly people poorly even out of the dating context.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 10:30 PM
3

That's right it is, telling them to partner up with someone ugly doesn't help, it sucks to be ugly, end of story.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 10:25 PM
3

Then you read the stories of people actually doing that and how miserable they are because the physical connection is forced. Sex is 10% of a relationship if it's working, and 90% if it isn't. We all get old and wrinkly over time but the chemistry can still be there if you pick someone you are physically attracted too.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 10:22 PM
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I think we just need to accept that people at the lower rungs of attractiveness aren't appealing rather than trying to match them up with each other in some condescending match making game.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 10:17 PM
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I don't think it's very helpful to call someone a dweeb, rejection hurts, it's equivalent to physical pain and this is shown in a study. Acting like it doesn't is callous and cruel. People need to be taught the mental/emotional resources to process it in healthy ways, not ridiculed for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 10:14 PM
1

Either you're gay or I am
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/22 09:03 AM
3

Salma Hayek Charlize Theron Jenifer Lopez Kate Beckinsdale Penelope Cruz Monica Bellucci Shakira Beyonce Kate Winslet Cate Blanchett Gillian Anderson Halle Berry Christie Brinkley I'm getting tired of typing but you get the idea
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/22 07:18 AM
4

Finances matter to men in the fact they don't want to be used for money by a gold digger
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/22 01:21 AM
1

Lmao yes I actually remember reading that a long time ago. I found out too that Asians are statistically 10 points smarter than caucasians but with far less variability. Maybe it would be interesting to ask what Asian women think of your example guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 08:09 PM
1

There's statistically as many stupid women as stupid men so that shouldn't come as a surprise, that broad can have her Darwin award. Replies on public post is somewhat a selection bias don't you think? I guarantee a lot of women were disgusted by him, or checked him out but wrote him off. It's like saying r/trashyboners is representative of male tastes.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 07:54 PM
7

Yes wider, just not infinite.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 10:00 AM
2

Just speaking from personal experience
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 06:17 AM
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That physically exceptional guy needs to keep his mouth shut in order not to break the illusion, he can very well turn a woman off just by being himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 05:14 AM
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Go look into my submitted posts to see if I'm a man or a woman lmao, and acknowledging that women are more attractive younger isn't brainwashing, that's me being bi and getting more horny over them just like the guys. Better luck next time. Also I never said women are ugly over 30, you're conflating my view with a bunch of other crap you read elsewhere. Women remain attractive for a really long time if they don't let themselves go. You even have people like Helen Mirren who's still got it. But s…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 10:38 PM
1

So your solution is to date a guy no other woman would want, rather than have the expectation that in a genuine relationship people shouldn't cheat? I guess you can say the same for women too. Find the least attractive woman possible, she's likely to be a virgin. Maybe, just maybe the guys need to respect the relationship and keep it in their pants?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 10:36 PM
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I'm sorry but I don't consider the men that were attracted to me in my late teens and early twenties to be pedophiles. The boys in my year level when I was younger than that don't count either. I wasn't predated upon very much but maybe I'm lucky.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 10:12 AM
0

Calm down. Honestly. I don't have any self hate because my physical attractiveness doesn't determine my self esteem, and in any case I'm still doing fine in that department. But I was hotter at 21. It's really not that big a deal, you're the one that's making it out to be the end of the world. I saw in another comment that you're a model so you've probably been treated like your value is defined by your looks your entire career. I don't have that problem to contend with, don't project it into me…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 10:09 AM
3

just because one or a few random guys who were actually capable of pulling that off put her through that doesn't mean I'm gonna excuse the baggage. Women keep giving men the whole "no one's forcing you to date/marry someone you don't like" shit when men vent about their SO's being used up, so I'll throw it right back at them when it comes to this experience of betrayal Ah yes, so it's the woman's fault the guy cheated and she should wear the consuquences right. In the middle east they take this …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 02:20 AM
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I'm not trying to excuse women's dumb decisions. I'm a low n count woman who was unfortunately was let down by a cheater (chronically) so had to move on to #2.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 02:09 AM
1

You're welcome!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 12:57 AM
3

That's just moisturising, which is good, but that's not preventing premature ageing or sun damage. r/skincareaddiction is a good place to learn more, or r/30plusskincare depending on your age
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 12:20 AM
1

She modelled at one point, probably still hot as hell
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 10:55 PM
2

SPF in makeup is completely inadequate unfortunately.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 10:35 PM
3

This is true, that's why I've been religious with my sunscreen. They look incredible for so long.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 10:34 PM
0

Hey I was that way too but if I look back I had a lot more interest back then (which I just couldn't wrap my head around) then I do now. The things were insecure about as teens are minor to red blooded men.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 10:30 PM
5

Ideally yes, but unfortunately unless people come from a perfect home with amazing role models, they are dumb as rocks at that age and liable to mess up a good thing. In my experience the young men commonly cheat as they're so horny and feel theyre missing out, so the first experience of love for young women is heartbreak and betrayal. Obviously those are huge generalisations though.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 10:27 PM
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Age gap in relationships and the most physically attractive age of women are two different things. Obviously. Do you think I want it to be true as a 36yr old woman? Reality is reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 10:21 PM
21

There are lots of exceptions for sure but the general rule holds true. Most women are at their most attractive in their early twenties, I'm saying this as someone also attracted to women. The innocence and gullibility might be a bonus for some men too and this creeps me out.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 01:40 AM
2

It's really not as bad as all that at all. Men are attracted to a wide range of women, the 20yr olds just happen to be the peak. Also there's "wife goggles". Generally speaking it's the woman that tends to lose interest over time and that's why sex can taper off. The men remain appreciative unless the woman completely let's herself go. I understand your concerns because I had them too but it's worked out completely fine. Just take care of your health and stay in shape as best you can and you're …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 11:04 PM
3

You're a young attractive woman so you get the pick of the litter, and your demographic and top men are the only ones who have this privilege. The red pill would advise you to cash in your chips now and stick with your best option. Of course life is so much more complicated than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 10:48 PM
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This is it. They want to fuck the 20yr old because she's objectively physically the hottest, but I've seen many men admit that they want someone they can relate to and a similar level of maturity for an actual relationship. That might not be someone exactly their age but typically it's within 10yrs.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 10:41 PM
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I read that men also develop wifey goggles, that if you get together with him in your prime, a part of him will always view you that way. I'm not sure if that's true but it's something.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 10:39 PM
3

So women are pets? That's your position?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 08:29 PM
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It depends what he does with them. A man that just runs through women all the time is damaged and a lost cause. Women are primarily interested in relationship, a promiscuous man is low value in that context. A truly high value man has women throwing themselves at him but chooses to build a life with one high value woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 08:25 PM
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Let's see a study to support that statement
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 08:22 PM
1

I find crying to be endearing in everyone, so I think it's an individual thing
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 11:25 PM
4

I think that's a great idea!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 06:12 AM
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Well can't argue with that, empathy should be the norm but unfortunately isn't in this sub and the longer I stay here the more poisoned by the atmosphere I'm becoming :(
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 06:04 AM
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She's asking what is the point of women admitting that men have it harder in dating, it doesn't change anything in the end anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 03:51 AM
3

Ah man I had such a laugh watching Pumping Iron, thanks for bringing back that memory lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 04:15 AM
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Casual sex/ sex without love is degrading and NOT empowering. I'm not liberating myself by opening my legs to some stranger. I have been approached by jacked 'Chads' and each time I can't help but be offended and be a bitch, it's so clear what they're after and it's disgusting lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 03:58 AM
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It's amazing how much my body confidence goes up even from one work out, I don't look any different but I certainly feel like I do. Physically activity is necessary for physical and mental health, and that includes healthy self esteem.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 03:54 AM
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I think we're getting a long way off topic, and I can't really comment because I'm not in your position, and I can't assess how fair this set up is in reality. If you're having the kids 50/50 and she didn't spend very long out of the workforce de-skilling you shouldn't pay her anything, she should pay her own bills imho, but whatever, not my battle... I do think you have some bitterness towards your ex, and I don't think it's fair to project it on women in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 02:00 AM
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I would find my so called friends to be extremely rude to offer that kind of opinion unless it was stated in the most mild respectful way possible. I had one girlfriend a very long time ago make fun of my taste in men, and I found it to a bit weird considering who she routinely went for.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 01:54 AM
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I never questioned your contribution, you sound pretty dedicated. You, however, questioned how difficult motherhood is and went into a comparison game. Also if you're still supporting her financially that's not the norm, most women go back to work.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 01:42 AM
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Did you help with the baby a bit during the night? If you didn't your partner was doing 24hr days. If you did you can subtract that time from 24hrs. I wish I could have done 14hrs to 'do my bit' lmao. And that's without physical pain, and the hormonal roller coaster and permanent reduction in attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 12:58 AM
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It's a 12 yr old post too, how does one even find something like that
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 11:25 PM
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You should initiate her into your group as a honorary member, birds of a feather and all that
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 11:21 PM
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Did you also do 50% of the pregnancy, child birth and breastfeeding? Because that's the backdrop of suddenly having a new born which everyone agrees is the hardest phase. It's exponentially easier once theyre just a bit older.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 10:25 PM
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But is that ALL you like? If so you're just projecting your own shallowness onto men
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 02:04 AM
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Head on over to r/VindictaRateme and get some advice from other women My other advice is a bit unorthodox but look up some subliminals on YouTube or head on over to r/NevilleGoddard to learn how to change your reality and self concept
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 02:02 AM
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You sound like a dude that says the only thing women love is muscles and money
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 01:49 AM
1

Estimated age: 17 Actual age: 36 Estimated BMI: 32 Actual BMI: 21 Meh
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 01:25 AM
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Breast implants have actually completely ruined many women's health, your conception of them as harmless is way off base.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 03:06 AM
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You could easily think it was just the guy the first time and give it another go, especially as we're told casual sex is supposed to be so great and liberating, it's easy to ignore your own reactions and think it was bad luck or you're the weird one. You're very eager to be proven right and this isn't proof at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 11:20 PM
2

That is very well written, your case for a double standard does make sense
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 08:02 AM
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I see what you're saying, things are very messed up, and I don't think men that want a chaste woman should be criticized if they hold themselves to the same standard. Still the point of having principles is not for approval or to gain a specific outcome. Someone will always take issue with the way you live life.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 05:26 AM
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You have only won it in your own mind
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 01:40 AM
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I don't do casual sex, never have and don't condone it. But I've had plenty of attempts to treat me like a slut then rage at me that I won't open my legs. This is exactly what I mean, this AWALT business is ridiculous. You are brainwashed and are actively excecuting the decline. You're a hypocrite. You want a good girl while actively being trash yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 01:34 AM
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I don't think men should 'save a hoe', I think they should control their lower urges and not contribute to creating those hoes whom they later deem beyond saving.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 01:26 AM
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I think this is a case of fixating on something to the exclusion of all other evidence and claiming it's the full reality, selection bias if you will. There are plenty of people living fulfilling lives out there, and plenty of chaste women (who often end up getting played and used as pre-assumed sluts, because how dare she 'withold' lmao) Also you don't need to save the world just be a man and have some actual principles you live by, and not just imitate the degenerates you despise. But I guess …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 01:08 AM
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More like contribute to the decline, notice something wrong with society and actively participate in it while encouraging others to do it too! Weeeee! Monkey see monkey do right?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 12:57 AM
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Why on earth do you think girls pick guys they're sexually not attracted to for a relationship? It's bizarre.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 12:48 AM
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It depends on how you look after yourself more than the hard chronological number. Some people are fit healthy and vibrant 30+, others are falling apart at an alarming rate, many of whom thinking it's an inevitability. Look up Dr Rhonda Patrick, the woman is 46 ffs. Ofcourse we still age inevitably but it's way more in our control than some people think. We can look after our bodies through lifestyle choices, we can address our issues as not to be too weighed down by damage. The older I get the …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 03:57 AM
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Someone making up that story for bragging rights is very telling though, psychos
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 01:42 AM
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The answer is both. Results achieved through their own ambition (not handed to them by their parents for example). But ambition is the more crucial one, results come and go, often through unlucky circumstances, but ambition means the guy has a chance of recreating his success. It's a very attractive character trait. Unchecked ambition isn't good though, there needs to be family/life balance, because what's the point if you never see him?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 01:37 AM
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I never said that it was some sort of solution to a social problem, I'm just speaking purely about psychological urges. I think the real solution would be regular social mixing of the genders with no pressure, like many societies have had in the past and some still do. Average guys would have their best shot that way. Average guys also have to relearn how to make a woman feel taken care of (and no it's not about just material goods). Women need masculine containment to relax and be happy. It's a…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 01:16 AM
1

That's different to just being used and ghosted though, women do want to be owned and taken care of
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 10:47 PM
1

Or why not just not get used lol?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 10:29 AM
1

Makes sense, central obesity has the most health risks
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 03:32 AM
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I think they are too over all, it's just funny how they react to the average stat
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 03:20 AM
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Still the average woman isn't an automatic pass like men here claim. It's honestly probably close to the top 20% only for many men too.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 03:13 AM
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Not even that, I'm not allowing someone that close to me when they don't respect me, and someone just after sex definitely doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 02:44 AM
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I always laugh when someone mentions the average woman is 5'4 and 170lbs, and there's always some shocked guy replying ew
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 02:41 AM
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Being ghosted after sex is kind of the giveaway, so some can't tell until it's too late. Lucky for me I've always had trust issues yay
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 02:22 AM
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Why do you assume it's about N count? That's a male concern. Women generally don't want to sleep with men just after sex because we don't separate sex and love. And also it's about self respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 02:16 AM
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There's an enormous difference between how men smell, my male relatives make me gag, my ex was intoxicating, and he said the same about me. I wouldn't go as far as that being enough to turn me on though, it just smells right or wrong if I can put it that way. You also have to be really close to smell someone like that, much closer than speaking distance.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 05:16 AM
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Obesity rates and personal grooming standards vary a lot between places. An average woman in place X can be way hotter than the average woman in place Y.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 12:13 AM
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Just quoting the person I responded to
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 12:02 AM
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Sexual access isn't a social right because that would mean people will have to make themselves available even when they don't want to. Just think about that for a moment, do you want to fuck someone who doesn't want you but is doing it out of obligation or pity?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 11:58 PM
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Men are most attracted to young women across all ages, so 80 to 50% of women 18 - 30 is a more accurate statement. Yet women don't die at 30. I guarantee a 50yr old man isn't attracted to 80-50% of 50 yr old women as long as they put on some spackle. Your privilege might just be that you're young enough to be in the same age bracket as young women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 11:11 PM
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I agree it is a custer fuck. Thankfully at the end of the day you always have a choice in how you conduct yourself, and the kind of people you associate with. Your solution makes sense
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 10:39 PM
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High quality women will just say "be confident and be yourself" because that's all they've ever needed. They have even less of a concept of what's required than average women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 09:36 PM
1

Can you name a woman you find more attractive then her, or one close to your ideal?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 09:31 PM
2

Don't guys complain that advice from women is always bad and possibly intended to sabotage them?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 09:07 PM
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That doesn't make sense, to weed out the harassment they have to read EVERY comment
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 09:01 PM
1

What are they?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 02:20 AM
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Fair enough, it's hard to destinguish relationship doubts from intellectual questions, still I wouldn't like being your girlfriend. I think that the level of thought you have already put in this makes biological essentialism redundant in your case, you can't unlearn what you have already learnt, you can only ignore it against your better judgement. But I view the higher order thinking humanity is capable of an upgrade from a merely reptilian brain reproduction motivated existence. That's just my…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 12:53 AM
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Rating systems are highly debated, good luck trying to find one everyone agrees on enough for it not to steal the show from what's being discussed. Your assertion that attractive women have different views from unattractive women is interesting, as a woman I wouldn't mind seeing this explored further. I think you might find that the experiences are vastly different but observations of men and the dating market probably not as much.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 10:09 PM
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Men used to be who decided who a woman married (often a contact between a suitor and her father), how often she had sex (a married woman must submit to her husband), and those children would take in the father's last name, and their lives decided by his wishes.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 11:48 PM
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A romantic relationship between a man and a woman is commonly socially defined as built on love, and is no place for Machiavelli. What you're doing is using someone for your own personal gain at their detriment. Hence it's not a real relationship according to our culture, or your girlfriend if she knew the truth. What your connection actually is, is predator/prey or scammer/victim. Your girlfriend just doesn't know that hence you're getting away with it, for now.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 09:35 PM
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She only wants you because She doesn't know you're a cheater She thinks you're exclusive so declines the other offers OR She's cheating too. In any case your relationship is built on deception, it's not even real, you shouldn't be giving out any advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 09:25 PM
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Does she know about the sides?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 09:20 PM
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It sounds like you have already made up your mind. Do the honorable thing and break up with your girlfriend now before you waste any more of her time.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 09:03 PM
2

And what if you met the one at 19?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 08:58 PM
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Yeah this relationship is already over she just doesn't know it, it's really sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 08:54 PM
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You can't love her that much if you're contemplating leaving her for casual sex. Just get it over and done with, and leave her to find someone better.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 08:52 PM
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And she can have a few too, the more the merrier!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 08:38 PM
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Yeah it was quite the uproar! The guy is also a wealthy business man in the local area with a wife and slightly younger children of his own. Doing the maths he donated sometime in his early twenties and got hitched and started his own family at 30 or so. Best of both worlds?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 08:56 PM
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Eh I'm a woman with two kids and I've had all the sex. Here's a story though, a girlfriend of mine did 23 and me to get genetic data for health reasons. She found 25 half siblings, those are just the ones that have done the test. She has met quite a few of them and even the donor father. The guy was very cocky and self satisfied apparently, happy to meet all his progeny. Her parents had questions to answer lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 08:41 PM
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As everyone else is mentioning sperm donation is actually more efficient and effective.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 08:20 PM
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there isn't anything inherently significant amount emotions as they are just animalistic impulses....Humans have an ego and want to feel important Hard disagree, your second point is such a gross oversimplification it proves my point about your ignorance. What does this even mean? You are emotionally obtuse It's also not up to me to educate you about this massive topic Oh. Which mental illnesses? https://www.researchgate.net/publication/232513575_Low_emotional_intelligence_and_mental_illness Sha…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 10:40 PM
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You don't understand the base mechanism, you might understand that chemicals are released but you clearly have no clue as to why. Nature is more elegant than allowing us to have such strong and persistent reactions without reason. You don't respect emotions so you ignore the feedback they provide. You are emotionally obtuse, and therefore socially and relationally handicapped. You are also at a higher risk for mental illness.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 09:39 PM
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Sex is for fun, not unwanted children.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 12:46 AM
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I don't think single men are fully cognizant of the abject misery of an unhappy marriage. Force a woman into marriage and that's what you get. We all have to learn the same dumb lessons over and over again don't we? There needs to be solutions to the current problems but going backwards isn't it. How about addressing the fact that having a girlfriend/wife shouldn't be the only way to meet emotional needs. How about addressing the alienation of society in general and lack of community engagement?…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 12:01 AM
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Why would you have children you don't care about?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 11:43 PM
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That's basically what I said with marginally different emphasis.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 09:46 PM
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Ah finally someone that gets it. You need enough of both is the simple answer, and they come into play at different times.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 05:12 PM
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Right back at you sweetheart 😘
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 02:52 AM
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Modern women are bizarre or did she have a mood disorder? Pick one.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 02:04 AM
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This is way out of my depth but I will mention that female libido is also modulated by estrogen, it would make more sense to treat that, and only medicate with T to achieve a normal level for a woman. Women desire a normal libido for a woman, not a male one. I would hate to be so on all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 11:41 PM
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I don't think they were complaining because they couldn't find a partner, they hated the obsession aspect of it. Anyway even a shaven bearded lady can find a taker
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 09:18 PM
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No I in my case the freaky passionate sex can only happen when I'm truly head over heals in love, some random can't trigger that (or I ignore it on the blue moon that one might lol). But some relationships are loving without being passionate. The loving boyfriend gets the normal sex. Occasionally my libido might spike and he gets a taste of more. The rando gets shot down because I don't do casual, but I realise other women do so I can't speak for all. True chemistry and being in love is quite a …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 09:10 PM
2

There could be something to that
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 11:17 AM
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Nah, he's right, as a woman what he said is exactly the way it is in a comfortable ltr where the passion or lust isn't there. Women will accept that in order to be in a relationship. Some of these men don't realise what the girlfriend would be truly like in the heat of passion, theres love of course though and that's the main thing imho
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 11:14 AM
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He's the first choice when already horny probably, but I can't speak for all women here
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 03:13 AM
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Holy crap, rather holy gas, rather holy baby 🤣😭 Women's concerns are routinely ignored in general too, so unfortunately this story doesn't surprise me one bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 02:46 AM
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not being an insane person on this subreddit. I've had a good day 🤣 I hope to keep it up
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 02:41 AM
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😂
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 01:49 AM
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Women have a fraction of the upper body strength of a guy even if they are equal in weight. Many don't know that intellectually, but I think there's a visceral instinct there in regard to that. Also most, including myself, are wary because of personal experiences and the experiences of their close friends and relatives. Most of us have experienced dodgy things of varying degrees, some really traumatic and debilitating. But can't deny that social awkwardness, and the high risk of gaining a clinge…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 01:27 AM
1

What has this to do with how horny each gender is?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 01:20 AM
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As women get older their libido increases. As men get older theirs goes down. At some point they are equal and then before menopause hits can reverse for a brief period. Add to that the fact as women age in general they become less attractive to every age of men, you end up with a demographic of couples where the woman wants it but the guy declines. Harsh but true. Factor in an oversight/obese population, which is the main deal breaker for many men... There are other examples composed of outlier…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 01:16 AM
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Some of my worst experiences in life have also come from living with a man. The rest have come from having to live with his family 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 01:12 AM
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Women leverage raw physical attraction more because we know we are primarily judged for that. But from what I can tell men can still see through it unless they are drunk or in a dark nightclub or both. Some actively encourage it. The whole career aspect of it is a whole other topic entirely, it's fascinating but I just don't have the time for it. Maybe you should make your own post? It would gain a lot of traction.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 01:08 AM
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I relate to seeing the aesthetics of men without getting horny. People are beautiful. I can look at an Adonis type with a six pack and a jaw for the ages and feel nothing in my crotch at all, a lot of the time anyway. Even average men always have something to appreciate, the variety is endless and great. That doesn't inspire me to fuck or date them though, they're just not disqualified from attracting me with their other qualities, provided I am single in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 12:59 AM
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It's always fun to be insulted and spoken down to lol, most guilty have been women but I've had a guy or two. In general everyone has been perfectly fine though so I can't complain.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 12:55 AM
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From my very brief experience with being this turned on for no reason, I sympathize. It's a lot to deal with.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 12:38 AM
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I don't think there's anything wrong at all about men's horniness, and I'm not trying to judge or disparage it in any way. Sexuality is a part of nature, including male sexuality. As long as they don't knowingly hurt anyone, which is a free will choice, it's all fine by me.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 12:27 AM
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I'm speaking only in general terms, my point doesn't account for all individuals and their free will choices
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 11:36 PM
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Women can get horny and irrational, I never claimed other wise. But the key is for the right guy. They are not horny for the majority of men, the way men would find a huge proportion of women sexually attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 10:52 PM
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But only a select few men can manage that
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 09:23 PM
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It's only human nature to develop theories for illogical phenomenon. It could be something more basic such as lack of awareness or societal perceptions that men should always be horny as fuck, and the ones that perhaps experience it as debilitating are ignored. But I do like a conspiracy so who knows!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 07:46 AM
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Do you mind sharing those theories?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 06:50 AM
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Edgelords and contrarians the lot of 'em 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 06:47 AM
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I honestly don't envy anyone that's dating either. It's the wild west.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 06:47 AM
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That's rough :(
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 06:32 AM
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Er that is a really weird hypothetical. I was thinking more of like ovulating, or being in love.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 05:31 AM
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A large proportion of childless women are that way by choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 04:12 AM
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Please for the love of God don't use whatever takes off in TikTok as a measure of the real world.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 03:59 AM
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Individual variations happen, the general rule remains the same. I too know low libido men and high libido women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 03:39 AM
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I think you need to look at actual stats for pregnancy in the forties. In the old times they used to be called change of life babies, when menopause is about to start there is a short period of hyper fertility. Doubly dangerous because women often thought their cycle was gone so were less careful! It used to be common to have a 20yr age difference between siblings. It's not as dire as you make it out to be. Same with the increased risks. While on that topic, male sperm degrades at the same rate …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 03:31 AM
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I never said women were asexual
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 03:08 AM
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It was clearly an analogy to make it easier to understand. You read into it what was never intended. In any case you have your clarification now.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 03:06 AM
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I agree, there needs to be more discussion and less stigma around it. I see 'can't get it up' as an insult being thrown around and it grinds my gears.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 03:03 AM
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The concept of hysteria is a relic of medical dark ages. Not questioning the benefits of orgasm, or issues that present when a person is sexually frustrated, but 'hysteria' itself is highly suspect with misogynistic roots.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 02:34 AM
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I enjoyed reading your experiences and really want to slap your grandma, my god that woman needed to shut the fuck up! Part of why I made the post is I really would like more understanding and compassion between the sexes, we really are all human in the end. Thanks again for sharing.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 02:26 AM
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Can't argue about ovulation, I notice the difference in myself, but putting it all under the social factor umbrella is disingenuous. Female libido can rise to meet male libido in order to ensure conception. That says nothing about the rest of the month. Also my mid month libido spike is not comparable to how horny it is possible to be, and I repeat horny enough to find most men attractive. Ovulation horny is still very picky.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 02:18 AM
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Yes, for you at least... thank you for your input, honey
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 02:15 AM
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Western women are more often single because they no longer have to rely on men to survive, they are no longer willing to bend over for someone one they're not attracted too.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 02:01 AM
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I'm really glad that I don't date women because that sounds burdensome as fuck :(
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 01:59 AM
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This is correct, oestrogen also increases libido. Maybe there are comparative studies out there of some kind.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 01:55 AM
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I didn't realise this was the case and I'm really disheartened and confused by it. This should be an option as part of routine medical care :(. Why have Viagra and Cialis freely available but not the converse? If you happen to remember please update me on how it works for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 01:49 AM
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But that's my point. If you were as horny as a guy you would be far more open to any dick (within reason). Like I said I love sex and miss it when I don't have it. Very different from true overwhelming horniness.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 01:43 AM
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PMS is a hormonal imbalance that's fairly common, but it's not the natural state. There's certainly dietary and lifestyle modifications I make to ameliorate it, eg stress reduction, no alcohol or coffee, a better diet and supplementing nutrients and herbal medicine. There's plenty women can do. On that stress point, women in bad relationships have more PMS. Female hormones are highly sensitive to cortisol. Just another reason to be more selective. Also PMS lasts a few days to a week. We get plen…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 01:41 AM
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That doesn't prove that women are more horny.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 01:37 AM
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Maybe for a ltr
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 01:36 AM
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That porn dependence thing isn't restricted to unsuccessful men, from my experience it doesn't matter. I know two examples of natural lady killer types have issues with it, one developing deeper problems from that and substance abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 01:34 AM
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Thank you for sharing, that is for sure a unique perspective with lots of experiences within it. Of course you are normal and valid (though I don't think you're asking for validation), the responses you've had to your trauma might be surprising to some but I've also seen this play out in a close friend of mine who was assaulted. Human sexuality as a whole is far more complex than can be stated in a nut shell, even as generalities hold true for the majority.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 01:32 AM
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It certainly seems like men are socialised into what's respectful and appropriate behaviour, and have to at times wrestle with their instinctual impulses to look in order not to appear threatening. I will definitely be looking further into their work.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 01:26 AM
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I spend too much time on Reddit that's how I know lol, it's not something a man would admit to his partner
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 01:16 AM
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Can you elaborate on that?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 01:15 AM
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Thank you, I figured it might help put frequent rejection in context. I get sad when I see men have lower self esteem because of it, it's not as personal as they seem to think.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 01:14 AM
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Women can get as worked up as any man under the right context.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 01:11 AM
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Didn't say that at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 01:10 AM
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The real world effect of libido is a very useful thing to keep on the forefront of the mind when debating male female dating dynamics. That's why I made this post, not to establish the root cause. I agree with your point on its own merit.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 12:55 AM
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There's a point where women's libidos increase as well, I'm in my 30s and dang. The target market of young women though...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 12:45 AM
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That's eye opening, thanks for the book recommendation
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 12:44 AM
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I procure an orgasm by whatever means necessary whenever I feel the need for one. The method or frequency doesn't really matter. But I've been lucky to have a long term partner who satisfied me without me having to fly solo for long periods of time. I don't have any inhibition with masturbation either, I do it when I want to, as much as I want to, and the frequency varies throught out my cycle.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 12:34 AM
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Please post the evidence
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 12:29 AM
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Women's libidos are lower because they are the gender with the scarce resource. They need to be more selective in the face of high competition. Your observation about biology leads to my point, it's not a rebuttal.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 12:29 AM
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That is ALSO a factor. Please note the specific wording of my title.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 12:27 AM
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Not trying to discount the legitimate concerns you have, just on balance of everything you say that is the impression that I get. It's not always everyone 'out there' that's the problem. And it's not some shit of Wikipedia, it's real life observations of men over many years. There's a type with issues that follows a common pattern. You can call out sluts, and I can call out you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 12:05 AM
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That's true but PMS would be a factor in breaking relationships rather than making them 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 11:57 PM
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There's more to making a good choice than not being blinded by horniness, it's just not that simple, upbringing, psychological soundness, intelligence and reasoning skills and sheer bad luck have a role to play. A narcissist masks their true nature until the woman is heavily involved, they're experts at it. And if anything, the sex haze is actually activated for certain men. It's not that women can't be blinded by lust, it's just it's not triggered by the majority of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 11:51 PM
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I consider myself pretty average and I'm well catered for in that regard, but there's probably considerable variation there.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 11:48 PM
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Ah, not sure about that then. I do know that women are attracted to more masculine men during ovulation (along with a rise in libido), and more nurturing types the rest of the time. So they want to be impregnated by the most masculine but want caregiving men in general. While pregnant a woman wants only to be around care giving men. But as to the differences between women, if it is purposeful, no idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 11:46 PM
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I guess I should have phrased it that women are in post nut clarity the majority of the time or with most men. Good point by the way.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 11:42 PM
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I've heard complaints specifically about the horniness. So horny and constantly thinking about sex make it staaahp and the ilk
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 11:30 PM
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A fun game to play after Twister to be sure 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 11:27 PM
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Random genetic mutations happen as a matter of course, variation of a trait within a generation is completely normal and needs no further explanation.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 11:23 PM
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It's complicated as hormonal responses are. I know a herbalist that uses it to lower male libidos, he seems to think it works fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 11:08 PM
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Do you have a study to prove that? It's an interesting assertion to be sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 10:51 PM
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Because women aren't all genetically identical
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 10:50 PM
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Where did I say that? There was no value judgement made of either gender in my post.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 10:41 PM
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I'm very horny for the right man, a complete dirty slut cum bucket. I'm not interested in the majority. Men can get freaky with a huge amount of women. That's the difference. Just like post nut clarity is only a problem if you're with someone you're not truly attracted to outside the sex haze.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 10:36 PM
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You have some kind of Madonna whore complex dude, that's a dysfunctional relationship with women coming from your side.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 10:33 PM
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Hasn't it been proven that disgust diminishes with arousal? In that case high disgust women are less aroused. The evolutionary advantage of being more selective for a woman would drive libido down, but not so low that women don't want sex at all as that's counter productive. There's a balance there that varies within individuals.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 10:32 PM
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I disagree, this is a different topic entirely, and a complicated one that merits its' own post.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 10:15 PM
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The real thing often doesn't feel as good because they grip their little guy so hard it becomes de-sensitized. It's called 'death grip' and it's common from what I can tell. But yes, women are more complicated in the bedroom and some thrusting doesn't usually cut it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 10:11 PM
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Negative correlation means as one factor goes up, the other goes down. No correlation means no correlation. With respect, don't read a study until you know the correct definitions as you will draw wrong conclusions.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 10:07 PM
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Ah the female hysteria hypothesis. Hello time traveler! But seriously, orgasm is restorative to the brain and psyche, without it women can get bitchy. Sexually frustrated men also get aggressive without realising why. That's not gender specific or some proof of women being as or more horny than men. Them trawling through lots of porn to find something they like shows that 1. most porn is made for male desires, and 2. you guessed it, women are picky! You seeing as every problem a woman has needin…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 10:03 PM
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In the Victorian era female orgasm was so neglected they had to go to the doctor to get one! So really it's a rebound effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 09:57 PM
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Their hands have blisters but they still want the real thing
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 09:46 PM
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It's very creative to be sure, I would love to have been witness to the conversation that invented it 😂. There's also the poop hole loop hole etc. Humans are very creative when they want to bone. Even the threat of hell and damnation won't stop them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 09:44 PM
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A single woman that wants sex can still find a willing partner that's been vetted by her friends/social circles, IF she found enough men attractive to make that statistically likely. Before OLD, before free mixing of genders in the bars of large cities, that's the only way it was ever done. I completely understand the stranger danger aspect as that has been a big factor in my decision making, but my selectivity goes far and above beyond that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 09:38 PM
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So they require greater sexual dimorphism to become aroused. Makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 09:23 PM
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Tell that to a Mormon 😂 they have something called soaking and jumping. The guy insets his penis but the couple doesn't move. A third party then jumps on the bed to create friction. It's not fucking though as that's not allowed! I kid you not.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 09:11 PM
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They're not infinitely horny, they're just more horny than women. The only person getting a boner at Walmart either has a fetish or his mind is somewhere else completely. Although in my truly horny window I did have the thought "drop your dacks and let me ride it" when looking at someone 60+ so I really can't judge. Attractiveness is a measure of how much someone wants you, not an inherent quality in itself. I guarantee that the local wildlife doesn't find me attractive lol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 09:08 PM
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Ok fair enough, but I fail to see how women making stupid decisions over a man means that they are attracted to the majority, or that they are as horny as men. They might be as horny as men for that ONE PARTICULAR MAN maybe, they most likely still reject everyone else. Stupidity is stupidity, it's not a gender specific trait.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 08:52 PM
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I think we're so entrenched in our own experience we take it for granted certain aspects of it must apply to everyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 08:44 PM
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My brief spikes in libido had nothing to do with worrying less, or any thought for that matter. It was purely physical/hormonal. My own experience for what it's worth anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 08:42 PM
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People seem to need reminding 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 08:38 PM
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I honestly think you live in a specific socioeconomic area that isn't representative of women world wide. So I'm not discounting your view, it probably is as stated where you are. I just don't see this happening at all where I live, which tells me this is location dependent and not female nature as such.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 08:37 PM
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A woman wanting to pursue a relationship with a man despite her friends and family wishes isn't crazy. It isn't having low standards. That sounds like a woman who's found a man that actually fits the bill (which is uncommon) and willing to sacrifice social approval for it. Where do you live that the family objects so often? Sounds controlling.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 08:24 PM
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Men: just close your eyes! I promise it's good!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 08:17 PM
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Vitex agnus-castus
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 08:15 PM
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What percentage of women have this issue would you say? The only place I've seen this is Jerry Springer and that's a freak show.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 08:12 PM
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Men: suck on this!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 08:08 PM
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There is a libido suppressing pill in the form of Vitex Agnus-castus a herb also known monk's pepper. Monks in europe used to put it on their food. Just in case you guys ever want a break lol. As for the converse testosterone patches/implants can do that for women and they hate it! Seems like heightened sexuality is a bit of a burden in spite of the extra pleasure it can bring.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 08:06 PM
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Women live in what men term as 'post nut clarity' due to being the less horny gender. Also women are more relationship minded, so a greater variety of traits are naturally considered. Calling this 'a laundry list of requirements' is pejorative. The reason you're getting the responses you are is because you started the conversation with knee jerk judgement, so that's what you're getting in return.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 07:41 PM
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What I'm saying is if you were hornier, you would be attracted to more men. Not all, just more of them. Women experience repulsion more and there's nothing wrong with that. Just like there's nothing wrong with men wanting to fuck more and seeing more women as attractive because of that. Let's stop demonizing each other for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 07:35 PM
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When you're very horny no sex is disgusting, (until right after maybe but men don't always get that far). Sexual arousal turns disgust off. That's the reason women are pickier, they are less horny over all. Speaking as a woman who has at times had short periods of being very horny to the point that any penis owner looked appealing. Now men are much more often in that state, so can't understand that when you're just not that worked up you can actually assess what's in front of you. I do have a fe…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 07:21 PM
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That's a woman that isn't satisfied in another area of the relationship. The male response is shut up and take it? Ok, but you better make my coffee right bitch 🤣.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 07:16 PM
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Men checking out, after giving a false impression during the courtship phase is the cause of that. Pick a woman you can make a consistent effort to be attentive to, don't just lure someone in, lock them down then switch off. Or conversely find someone who also puts a half assed effort into the relationship and then enjoy the entropy together.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 07:11 PM
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Eh. I think they have a slight advantage genetically. They also have a higher standard for themselves in terms of grooming (historically higher competition for men) and like you said not being fat, which in part is due to never having abandoned a traditional diet like the west. Broadly speaking they are more beautiful for all of the above reasons. When they migrate to the west and adopt the diet and norms there most of that advantage is lost.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 06:53 PM
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I'm full Ukrainian, born there but immigrated out. Nothing is a cold and fast rule, just a general observation enough people make for me to take notice. And yes men aren't angels, they just select the more beautiful woman when given the choice. My assertion isn't that Slav women were more highly valued but that they had to compete for men who could do what they wanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 06:44 PM
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Yes I realise that, I guess it's more coersion, the winning man would be offering resources and protection, in that society a woman might find that acceptable over time and tolerate him. A sociopath wouldn't care and it's estimated they're 10% of the population.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 06:42 PM
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Yep, guys willing to murder competitors and take women against their will would have reproductive rights. Women would be more valued but treated worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 08:14 AM
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This happened in Russia after world war two when a huge proportion of young men were killed. The remaining men had the pick of the litter. I've heard theories this is why Russian women are so attractive these days. Only the most beautiful got to have children. I don't really know exactly but traditional marriage definitely persisted. Maybe if you had less men for generations the culture would change more. I will add that in Russia domestic violence is completely legal. Not sure if this is relate…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 08:08 AM
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Unfortunately I agree with you. Women would become a hot commodity that men fight over, the winner takes it all, and that type of guy wouldn't really care about her opinion on it. This makes me think of the latest mad Max movie where the top dude keeps a harem of hot women against their will so they can produce him healthy sons. When they get kidnapped/run away he sends everything he has in pursuit.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 08:02 AM
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I don't think India is a good example because their devaluing of women is the reason for the gender disparity in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 08:01 AM
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That does make sense, I can't possibly see how you can maintain nice glutes on one sweet potato per day
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 01:44 AM
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Of course the principle remains the same. It's just that there are smart ways to apply it, or ways that will back fire because human beings do have hormones and if you trigger them the wrong way the extremely strong compulsion to overeat is likely. It just doesn't have to be that painful, weight loss is most effective long term when it's sustainable and doesn't require gargantuan levels of will power, especially since people have lives that need effort and energy expenditure, like work, kids etc…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 01:39 AM
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Actually studies show that restricting calories more than 20% bellow maintenance is detrimental. From my own experience it drives hunger through the roof and this often results in rebound bingeing and weight gain. At 20% restriction you're hungry but it can be ignored, and doesn't cause obsession with food like extreme hunger does. That's what I meant by being a little hungry for a couple of weeks. If you can't fall asleep because you're so hungry it won't work. Excercising buys you a couple hun…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 01:13 AM
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Not disagreeing or anything but you should google "K-pop diet"
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 09:52 PM
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Does age play into this? What if she fits the stats but she's 40?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 09:43 PM
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I'm attracted to men. Height 5'10 to 6'5. Body fat 10%-20%. Some muscle but not gym bro. V taper/broad shoulders even if slight. Veiny forearms/hands. I'm partial to chest hair. At least a slight tan if white, on at least some body parts like arms.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 09:36 PM
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Wow you've met them all? You're a busy guy!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 09:29 PM
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Wow you've met them all? You're a busy guy!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 09:29 PM
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I don't think anyone has mentioned the epigenetics of obesity building up through the generations. We are still impacted by the lifestyle choices and therefore gene expression of our grandparents. Kids today have more of this kind of burden than the previous generation. Also being raised in a home with bad habits is part of it too. The amount of effort they need to put in to get back to base line is so much higher than someone that comes from a family of normal weight people and maybe got fat th…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 09:17 PM
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80% of weightloss is the food you eat. You can't outrun your fork. This type of health miseducation really doesn't help. I'm on a female only Facebook group for women trying to get fit, and the amount of posts about a woman religiously doing HIIT but not worrying about diet but eating their miseducated distorted idea of 'mostly healthy', and getting no results is really high. Then they give up thinking they're just doomed to be fat. All the 'broken cookies don't have calories memes' are really s…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 08:49 PM
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Where the fuck do you find so many mindless bimbos?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 08:23 PM
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You're wildly ignorant of what actually goes on. I can't be bothered to list it, it would take too long. Also consider that this is job you never leave, you don't get to go home and leave it all behind. With small kids you also get woken up multiple times a night, but the work load continues around the clock day after day. Try sleeping at your job and set an alarm to be woken up every 1.5 hours during the night to do a small task. Do that for several months without break, then we can talk. When …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 06:00 AM
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Because many women have trouble getting an orgasm from piv so oral is the only way to reliably get off.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 05:17 AM
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Yes, moderately big, but not too much . Keep in mind big for me is probably a lot more average than what's colloquially considered big. ( 5.5 to 6 inch length and 5 inch girth would be ideal, but this info is a bit redundant as how would I know as you said) I guess Ii would want some one that can get it up and I can actually feel in there, that would be a good start. Also I should have mentioned good in bed, eg good at foreplay and respectful of boundaries, those are probably more important than…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 08:18 PM
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Since this is all hypothetical I haven't given it that much thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 07:43 PM
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More so I would take a less physically attractive man if all the other important qualities are there, there's less weighing on looks in that case I guess. I also wouldn't want someone clearly above my league as they would be more likely to cheat.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 10:18 AM
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Built fat is the best 😍, your goal is way over the top, anything beyond athletic/fit/muscular just looks like roid central (off-putting). Edit: I just saw that you're actually built fat 😂 I hope you can rest easy in the fact that you don't need to change
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 05:14 AM
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IF I was ever to do it (which I am not going to on principle but that's another topic) easy going, non judgemental, fit, handsome, and a nice dick would be my preferences. Also a bit of social proof that he's safe while at the same time not too closely intertwined with my social circles. How this differs from relationship material is he needs to be more physically attractive than otherwise but also less committed/serious. But even with all of that available to me, I'm just not into casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 04:51 AM
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I don't agree that's WHY wars are started, but sadly I do see how young men are viewed as expendable.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 04:48 AM
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A woman would need a hell of a lot of free dates to make up for loss of income.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 12:38 AM
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Most ideals start to break down in the application, it's the north star we may never reach, but should nevertheless aim toward
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 02:25 AM
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Equality doesn't mean sameness. The genders can be very different and still be given equal rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 02:10 AM
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I don't see much to discuss here, let's just get on with it...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 02:09 AM
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Yeah the goal of one is getting a free drink, the goal of the other is to hurt humiliate and make powerless. Why the fuck do I need to explain this?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 09:47 PM
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There's a VAST difference between getting a free drink and lying to security to get the guy kicked out. One is unfortunately common, I've done it in my younger years. The second is deeply fucked up, sociopathic and probably grounds to be prosecuted.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 08:56 AM
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That's just rage inducing, I can't stand injustice like that. I'm sure it happens but I really doubt it's commonplace.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 08:39 AM
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Yeah OnlyFans, the legit income generator for the average woman, if she can live on $7 a week maybe 😹
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 07:48 AM
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But then turning the bouncer on him? That's messed up
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 07:35 AM
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She's a sociopath, that's not normal behaviour
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 03:25 AM
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The dildo market is doing fine and women are starting to out earn men so maybe the male sex robot niche is redundant anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 10:51 PM
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I'm bisexual in the sense that I'm attracted to both genders sexually. I could never be in a relationship with a woman, they seem like a pain in the ass🤣, never had more than a slight crush on one, and I'm not into casual sex so the bisexuality becomes redundant. I've never 'come out' for that reason, but yeah I've kissed a few girls in highschool when we were all experimenting. I'm probably fairly typical.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 02:12 AM
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I'm not a guy but I've seen men that have truly had the smorgasbord say that it grows tiring after a while, the novelty wears off and they're happy to settle down. Few men get to that point though because few have the opportunity, the rest are either jealous and can't imagine getting sick of it, or aren't attracted to it in the first place. Maybe eternal whores exist too though, who knows.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 01:46 AM
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Your opinion that it's just an opinion is fucked up, but that's just my opinion I guess
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 01:39 AM
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How is it opinion that porn depicts intimacy? Intimacy where you're more vulnerable to abuse? Whut? Honestly men scare me sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 11:47 PM
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Why is it surprising? Porn depicts intimacy, not a combat/warzone situation. It's way worse just for that reason, never mind the increased impact on neuronal pathways from fapping and orgasm. The fact that it's been normalised as you prove with your surprise is the most disturbing part of all. Add to that many young men learn about sex from porn... Most of them these days honestly, at very impressionable ages. It's fucked up.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 11:27 PM
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I didn't say it was ok, you comparing gaming to porn is a false equivalency. I don't really think any of it is ok to be honest, the whole violence as entertainment thing is ubiquitous but really disturbing when you think about it
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 10:32 PM
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Yeah but are you jacking off to it? Are you training your brain to orgasm from violence and degradation?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 09:50 PM
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Men aren't at risk of dying, I really don't give a fuck about fairness as that has completely gone out the window, it's about survival.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 06:27 PM
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Women can have sex bots too you know.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 10:55 AM
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Marriage, car and house isn't going to protect women from miscarriage and ectopic pregnancy. But yes full commitment would be my minimum if I lived in America from here on out. No sex until marriage, and I'm a sex is appropriate on the third date sort of gal.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 05:52 AM
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I honestly assumed this post is directed to men because 10%bf for women is below essential fat levels.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 05:10 AM
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This is news to people who think downloading an app and swipping if effort, and the results you get from that is representative of the real world. Which is a lot of men these days
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 03:01 AM
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He probably means awfull as in giving false hope, the chances of success from just taking those steps are extremely low. Men commonly try for years with this method to get nothing back.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 09:44 PM
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As a woman the yellow light is bang on, it's the "still considering" bracket and this is where average guys often fall
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 01:49 AM
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Then why bother with dating apps? Well there's far more men on dating apps for that reason. Convenience, curiosity and the status quo are some other reasons. Why complain about men approaching in real life? Because to complicate things women have stranger danger, and approaching in the wrong way can kill attraction before it starts. I'm not saying any of this isn't difficult to deal with mind you, I understand your frustration. Why make it near impossible for a guy to be appealing in the way you…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 03:34 PM
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I was going to post stats but I don't know how in my phone (I'm old lol). It's a lot harder for a woman to orgasm from what would actually make a baby. Most don't. Let's just leave it at that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 08:13 AM
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I agree with a lot of what you say but I have a few things to add. In the absence of being to gauge a guys personality, via humour, chemistry, charisma, manners, smell and other things you need to be face to face for, the average guy is absolutely not appealing. There's a small percentage of men whose sheer physical hotness can override this dynamic, and those are the men that do well on OLD. The rest are greatly disadvantaged by it, not just through sheer numbers but via the actual mechanics of…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 07:09 AM
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What happened to my shoulder then? I know my skeleton didn't change but appearance wise it might as well have, do why does it even matter. Girls don't Xray a dude to check if he's attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 06:39 AM
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If a Victoria Secret model offered to sit on your face as an opener would you resist? That's how hot this guy is.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 06:36 AM
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The shoulder thing is true. I'm a woman (so harder to build muscle mass) and when I played basketball in highschool my dominant arm shoulder was significantly wider than the other, I looked very unsymmetrical. A year after I stopped they matched perfectly again. I didn't appear muscular in any other sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 05:03 AM
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No, any type of orgasm. It's a shock to be sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 11:25 PM
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Well of course it's possible, but unfortunately it's not the default for most. I think the stats are around half of women have never orgasmed with a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 10:10 PM
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You've clearly never been hovered over
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 09:40 AM
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Yeah and social creatures invented a word to name that feeling when something's a little off
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 08:00 AM
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I'm not saying a woman is justified calling a guy that every time, sometimes it is uncalled for
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 06:03 AM
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Nothing at all, or hovering? The guy could be doing nothing but looking over a lot and its unsettling, like that spidey sense that you're being stared at from behind.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 04:17 AM
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Everyone and their mothers abuses and weaponizes feminism as everything else is weaponized around here. That makes a lot of sense. I hope you can see though that feminism isn't the root of the dysfunction, more so it's the vicious cycle of survivalism and everyone being in it for themselves. But I don't live where you do, that's just what it seems like from what you've described.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 03:49 AM
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Far less pleasure from sex while having the whole biological burden of reproduction. It fucking sucks. A virgin can get knocked up without ever having an orgasm, have to bring a baby (or two, or three) to term, give birth, and tend to a helpless being 24/7. Breast feeding is fucking painful even when everything is normal, labour can be a trainwreck. Then come all the hormonal complications, perhaps complete loss of libido, post partum anxiety/depression/psychosis. The social isolation, the loss …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 01:17 AM
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Why don't you quit dating and become a monk if you hate it so much. Still horny? Get chemically castrated. Problem solved, you're welcome! Feel free to Cashapp me :)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 01:15 AM
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Well good on you for having some integrity. We can't solve the world's problems but we can do our bit at least not to contribute to them. There's nothing wrong with just wanting casual stuff if you're honest about it. It also sounds like the place you live in is deeply fucked up so I don't blame you for being put off. I just don't think everywhere in the world has problems this bad, there's probably a lot more going on where you are than the popularization of 'feminism'.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 12:59 AM
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Ah ok it's all the women's fault that the men are "biologically not wired to stick around". Your arguments are all over the shop. You can't blame women for male behaviour. At some point men need to learn to control their lower impulses, man up, and look after their offspring. They might have had bad role models/absent fathers, but someone has to break the cycle.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 09:03 AM
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Isn't the solution to this the father sticking around and teaching his son how to be a man?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 08:21 AM
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This why it needs to be an opt in/out scenario. I can see some people on the lower tiers signing up for it. It's fucked up though when it's forced.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 08:00 AM
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Manipulation is a sign of someone who can't pursue what they need directly, because they are powerless to do so. Women historically have had to learn to manipulate in order to survive. Your claim about drug lords being created by single mothers who teach them how to simp makes no sense. I'm sure they train their boys into what they think will give them the best chance of making it in their particular society. In a violent culture like the one you're describing the mother probably has to teach un…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 07:49 AM
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That's a fascinating glimpse into a very fucked up society. I fail to see where women are dominant here though. They seem just to be chattel in this case, along with drugs, cash and whatever else is the easiest route to power and hedonism. The people making the rules are actually men. I'm sure the women get very violent retribution if they behave in any way outside of what the drug lord and his hierarchy wants. Their way to navigate this danger zone becomes hyper-sexualizing themselves in order …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 07:32 AM
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And a man willing to hurt a person just a fuck is his responsibility. Some go to great lengths to do it. I know a couple of cases (in my immediate circle) of a guy pursuing for months and taking the time to learn what the girl is looking for in order to imitate it, coaxing her into bed, then ghosting. It's heinous. Both times the woman was very inexperienced, one was a virgin. She was heart broken for months, probably sustained lasting trust issues. I have no patience for any argument of "she sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 07:08 AM
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It's very easy for outsiders to tell a lot about anything really, but we have to live our own lives and are often blinded by emotion and our limited experiences. The person doing the scamming should hold the weight of the blame. Yeah the women need to get smarter, but often that happens only after getting burned.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 06:45 AM
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I think the arranged marriage thing should be available as a choice in the west though, it's a good model when not abused.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 06:38 AM
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Yeah well I think personal liberty and bodily autonomy is more important and fundamental than mating and dating. Subjugating one gender over another, especially when the dominant one is naturally more violent/physically aggressive will always end up with horrors above and beyond a portion of men not getting laid. I sympathize with their lack of success but if you study history it's the best set up we've had so far as far as human suffering is concerned.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 06:32 AM
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But how is the woman supposed to know that if he is pretending to want one with her? And who says he is actually above her? Men of all types do this not just the top few.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 06:26 AM
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So your solution to the current dating woes of men is to subjugate the women and force them into circumstances where they have to open their legs? So if they don't do it willingly coersion is the next logical step? Fucking ew.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 05:15 AM
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Personal insults are out of line. Where did you meet these guys though? A dating app maybe?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 05:09 AM
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Too much porn and filtered instathots have completely warped their eyeballs. And women have the inflated standards, sure lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 03:28 AM
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Greed for a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 01:19 AM
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Ah sure, men have no part to play in it whatsoever. Pretending to want a relationship and then pumping and dumping is all the women's fault, they did it to themselves!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 12:10 AM
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Oh oops not sure how I missed that
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 10:29 AM
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Yes, I was terrified and confused. He could have easily pulled me into the car.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 04:41 AM
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The majority of men are physically stronger and more aggressive than the majority of women. If a guy has bad intentions he can follow through very easily. Irrational my ass, it's biology. You being groped in a night club is insulting and boundary crossing but it's not even in the same universe as being followed for multiple blocks while crying and trying to lose them, as a child. My experience isn't uncommon at all. Do I live in the world seeing every man as a rapist? Definately not, most men ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 11:56 PM
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Multiple other women successfully, not rejected by multiple women. Social proof.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 11:07 PM
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I live in an upper middle class area of a very safe western city. My first time seeing an ejaculating penis was when a car followed me while I was on foot for a few blocks. I was 12 and walking to school. That's just one story of many. Shit like that scars you even if you've never been raped, and several of my close friends have.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 09:48 PM
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I think you're attaching too many moral judgements to male horniness to be honest. They are absolutely more horny on average but not all women view that as being a dog that will fuck anything. Likewise your point about women being weak. This has a purely physical origin. Most men are by far physically stronger than most women. Even the top 10% of fit women can barely match be bottom 25% of men, at best. These are realities, not just social constructs, although we as humans tend to add latter to …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 09:41 PM
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This answer deserves its own post. Never before in history have men been exposed to so many images of hot women in various stages of undress. It creates a feeling of missing out thats completely artificial. Like wise high porn consumption inevitably leads to that point of reflection where everyone seems to be having constant hot wild sex but you, but really it's just an industry creating fantasies with a very dark underbelly.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 09:33 PM
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Are you joking? Women very much care if they banged even if he didn't care about her. I've been cheated on in this context and its excruciating. It's horrible to be cheated on for both genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 09:01 PM
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Oh you meant legally, I thought we were talking about the biologically imprinted fear of cheating in both genders
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 08:32 PM
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Nature has shaped the head of the penis so that it dislodges the congealed semen of the previous partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 10:04 AM
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Yeah and she could have that passionate affair with the office hunk, you can't possibly meet all her emotional needs long term, then when she gives you tepid relationship sex she'll do it without resentment. It's beautiful really
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 10:00 AM
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But a woman could lose the support from the father of her child, as he might move on to another family. An unsupported woman and child could be fatal for both in our ancestral past
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 09:55 AM
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Sure Jan. I don't doubt those arrangements exist, but in no where near the numbers to skew the stats in any meaningful way.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 08:35 AM
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You have a point with some of the toys, shows and clothing marketed at the early teen market. It's disturbing for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 07:12 AM
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How is it that most women are in relationships but dating is "damn near impossible for men"? Who are those women with?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 07:09 AM
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Then who are they with?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 08:38 PM
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Those evolutionary reasons can be boiled down to having kids
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 05:43 AM
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And your feed is a reflection of your previous clicks
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 05:39 AM
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Please don't deny the choice aspect of it because it weakens your point. I agree with your social pressure argument but no one is actually forced, that's rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 06:36 AM
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The messaging I received as a teenager was that if I wasn't up for casual sex I was a prude and unliberated. I was made fun of for being asexual by one friend in particular which after long enough led me to trying a ONS which I never repeated as I got exactly nothing out of it but awkwardness.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 06:34 AM
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Isn't it obvious that the second statement is the result of the first?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 06:28 AM
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It's a notch on their bed post but they must be blissfully ignorant to the fact that the woman might have had a bad experience and wouldn't repeat it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 11:14 PM
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No one said he is a good guy, just he enjoys her fame
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 10:20 PM
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You just can't handle someone supposedly inferior having one over you in an argument. Sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 03:28 AM
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What a retarded comment. Plenty do. Go to r/fasting and see for yourself if you need proof of the obvious. But when it comes to mouldy bread men, no discipline required 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 09:00 PM
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What kind of pleasure is it to watch someone do something they dislike? The ejaculating partner gets no physical sensation from it. It's an ego boost at the swallowers expense. I can understand it if the swallower fakes enjoyment to the point it's believable but than isn't it just dishonest? They think that you're swallowing it because you think they're so hot, but in reality you're just trying to make them happy. It's patronising in a way. I'd be mortified if my partner swallowed a body fluid t…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 08:56 PM
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And subsequently being damaged by them, which is what it takes for some women to become cognizant of said low value.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 08:50 PM
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You need to be good to be able to do it more than once
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 08:42 PM
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Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 08:39 PM
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No one takes anyone seriously when they don't have weight behind their words. I don't see how this relates to any pill, it's just common sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 09:51 AM
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And most men are piece of mouldy bread. Many women choose to fast instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 09:45 AM
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I think in societies where there is less community vetting, women choose based on more obvious superficial parameters by necessity. And that's not healthy from what I can tell.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 09:10 AM
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True, but funny how things always circle back to ass in the end
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 09:06 AM
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Just remembered this post is supposed to be about romance💖
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 08:29 AM
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None of this is as gross as swallowing the real deal I won't lie lol
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 06:44 AM
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A true connoisseur I see, carry in
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 06:21 AM
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The Bromelain pre-digests any snotty bits though, up to you!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 05:04 AM
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Next time make sure to eat a some pineapple for a few days prior 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 05:02 AM
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So, no you haven't. Just asking a simple question, no need to read that much into it, I wasn't implying any of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 04:45 AM
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So have you swallowed semen for your own pleasure? Does anyone?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 01:16 AM
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Ofcourse the expectations are lower if you're more likely to be satisfied in the bedroom.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 01:10 AM
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Yeah with women with poor judgement, you can call them low value too
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 12:45 AM
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It's only natural that the gender with the lower libido needs more of a performance to be satisfied. Were talking about bedroom performance just so where clear. It's much more fatal for a man to be shit in bed than a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 12:43 AM
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This is below average but not truly low value. Truly low value is abusive/addict/mooch/sociopath imho.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 10:50 PM
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You just said it, women don't need to be good. But men do. Life is unfair waaaaa
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 10:47 PM
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Of course they do, but OP was asking about women
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 08:30 AM
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Each one is made to feel special in her own unique way, by paying attention to her likes/dislikes tastes etc
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 04:03 AM
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Women want to be made to feel special universally, so the advice that women aren't a hive Mind is particularly relevant here
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 03:58 AM
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It's not just transition related, not an expert but some women are prescribed androgens for other reasons
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 12:15 AM
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The west includes several countries across different continents. Within these there's inner city cultures vs country, upper vs lower classes, different races and education levels. It's not a remotely a homogenous mass.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 11:54 PM
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That's invalidation, and yes that's part of the consequences of someone deciding that they're right so others must be wrong. Again a limited frame of reference and intellectual arrogance, and I see it regularly from both genders and every 'pill'.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 11:43 PM
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Yes we're all roughly the same culture, and STILL were all arguing with each other citing very different observations.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 11:36 PM
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The problem with this sub and human nature in general is we make universal rules based on our VERY limited experience. There's upward of 7 billion people in the world, a myriad of cultures etc. Things vary a lot even between social circles. But there's a tendency to come to hard conclusions and die on that hill.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 11:29 PM
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Intelligence is really hot, but I value kindness and honesty higher.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 11:22 PM
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When did I say something about an uncanny radar?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 07:29 AM
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Yeah and create more monsters who hate and abuse innocent women, like me. Enjoy your satisfaction. There's a few more things I have to say to you but I don't want my comment deleted.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 11:41 PM
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That's not standing up for yourself, that's descending to the same level, which not only doesn't solve the problem, it makes everything worse. Standing up for yourself is refusing to have sex with that guy,calling him out verbally and walking away. Which I've done plenty. What you're doing is perpetuating a sick cycle, giving them justification for their abuse and injuring innocent men in the process.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 11:25 PM
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That's a bit disingenuous, women don't have hormonal urges that powerful, I'm saying this as a woman. Maybe the drive to have a baby, but that's not universal, and often only during a certain phase in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 11:21 PM
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You're trying to brag but you're coming across as disgusting
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 11:02 PM
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But you can fix that with your own hand, you don't need to hunt out there for anything. It's like being hungry with a snack bar always in your pocket more like. It's probably not completely satisfying but you guys can masturbate, I don't see why it's so dire.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 10:24 PM
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Women who have gone through hormone therapy have said they become obsessed with sex and its overwhelming and fucking horrible, they can't wait for it to stop. That's always been very enlightening for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 10:10 PM
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Women are way more superficial at weeding out losers on sight, and sexual attraction definitely plays into that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 03:06 AM
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Still the difference between respective means is 7 and not in the dozens. You're an outlier, your habits are a dream for most men. My brother for example is an incel(virgin at 40), my father maybe 2 or 3 max, my partner according to him 9. Personally I know few women with high N count, and quite a few still with their highschool boyfriend 20yrs later so it probably varies A LOT depending on the circles that you mix in.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 02:46 AM
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I think a lot of men actually get body issues from seeing big dicks in porn. Why wouldn't they?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 10:37 PM
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Ah ok, that makes sense, so there has to be inaccurate reporting going on, my hunch is on both sides but we don't really know I think it's also important to not assume every woman lies to the same degree. One high count woman halving her number is probably more likely then a few dozen low count women doing it. In statistics terms that would make a big difference, but the majority of women could still be fairly low in reality. Maybe same for guys too.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 10:14 PM
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I can see the girls not counting the 'borderline' cases and the guys counting them to inflate their numbers. If we assume that both lie to the same degree the mean is somewhere in the middle so about 10 or 11 which honestly isn't that far above 7. For me I would usually state my N count as 3, but I did fool around with one girl once which wasn't penetrative, and I'm mostly hetero, so technical count is actually 4.... That kind of reasoning is probably common. And on that note, does the study inc…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 09:47 PM
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Well that is ambition! And there's loads of spiritual girls these days, this one doesn't count imho
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 09:43 PM
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I don't know, I just know statistics and the average (mean) number of female sexual partners that men report and the average (mean) number of male sexual partners that women report doesn't add up, that's not how math works. How different are they for reference?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 10:25 AM
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He didn't outright say he was looking for a girlfriend, I found that out later. My friend wanted to bum a smoke of someone and we saw him and his friend stitting quietly to the side smoking. She came up and started talking to them and I followed, nervous as usual. It's easier if you have a beer to lower inhibitions. He asked me what I do, and I said art student, he happened to be an art teacher (age difference of 9yrs) and conversation went from there due to the common interest. It was pretty or…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 07:41 AM
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That's the place it was possible to meet me, not my common every day activity. It happened once a week at the absolute most. More often twice a month or less. Never happens now. Every time it was my best friend instigating and convincing me to come out. And no you wouldn't need much of a persona besides basic manners and a willingness to have an interesting conversation about a common interest. In fact I'd be more attracted to people who were being authentic, male or female. But that's a persona…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 07:35 AM
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Not receptive to guys who don't leave the house, or not receptive to guys with a clearly fake social persona? I have no idea where you go, what you do and how you come across. I used to hang out in dive bars near universities, I wore pretty average non revealing 'boring' clothing. I didn't put that much effort into hair or makeup so I didn't max out my attractiveness, because I wasn't looking to 'pick up'. But I'll be honest the amount of months I've been single in my adult life I can count on o…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 07:24 AM
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That's odd because lots of the girlfriends I went to highschool with and women from my extended family live this life. It's just normality. Were not out on tinder and Twitter advertising ourselves though so we might as well not exist??? Like it's known men are less social, no one's complaining.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 07:00 AM
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I was there with my best friend who I liked to drink beer with and talk about our mutual interests. We don't wear social masks with each other so it's no effort at all. We would also sometimes befriend strangers for more interesting conversation, but she's the one that usually instigated that. One night like that would completely fill my social tank for at least a week. My partner said he was out specifically looking for a girlfriend. As far as taking of that social mask it's completely expected…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 06:57 AM
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I find it interesting that when you find evidence that what you want is actually possible, you drop the conversation and move on to others to expound on highly dysfunctional 'solutions' to your 'unsolvable' dilemma. You don't actually want success, you want your world view reinforced, and to be given a free pass to use and damage people. Don't call yourself a tradcon, you're the classic fuckboy. Own it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 06:28 AM
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Most people need a spoonful of sugar with the medicine of honesty and directness. The lack of ambition is a real detriment though. Are you just happy with life as it is? If so hippie girls would get that. If not and you have unaddressed depression that would be hard for any partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 05:30 AM
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I'm completely confused where 'taking off the mask' comes into it though. As I said earlier a big minority of women are introverted and would very much prefer the family dynamic you describe. That's pretty much my life to be honest and I don't feel like I'm missing anything, or my partner has 'taken off his mask and become unattractive'. We did meet at a bar while he was hanging out with his friend hoping to meet people, he has innate disdain for that sort of thing but he did it to meet girls. H…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 05:21 AM
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But how can you simultaneously want that and get completely nothing out of social interaction? You would have to interact with said wife and kids you know. Also if social interaction has nothing to offer you why are you here on Reddit talking to people?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 04:48 AM
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That's a pretty strong statement. Can you describe those traits that women don't like?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 04:33 AM
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Can I ask, if you don't like socialising at all, or friendship, what are you hoping to get from having a relationship with a woman, besides sex that is? Wouldn't it be more honest to have a standing appointment with a sex worker?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 04:24 AM
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You're the one being obtuse. Women want attainable skills. Those are innate for some, but MOST people have to learn them. Many of those people aren't particularly social either. You're not willing to make that effort, instead you whine about the injustice of it all. I love pastries but I don't eat them because men like women with a decent figure. That's life, cry about it, or move on. I actually like reclusive nerds as a personality type, it's the downsides of being reclusive which are so unnatt…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 03:33 AM
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You don't have to be social, just have the skills to display when necessary. It's not fun to gain them, I fully relate to that, but they're life skills that influence success in life and thus attractiveness as a partner. I guess it like learning to ride a bike. You don't have to do it for hours everyday for the rest of your life, the skill remains. You can get rusty but you have aquired it. I understand your resentment of the process of learning (social awkwardness and humiliation at the beginni…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 03:11 AM
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Social skills isn't a personality type, it's a skill developed over time. Social dominance is also a trait built over time. Sure there are naturals but it's not an immutable trait, at all. Anything missed?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 03:02 AM
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Ok great thank you, now I have something to work with. Women like social dominance and confidence, but this doesn't necessarily have to correlate with large social networks or extraversion. A large minority of women are introverted, and would find keeping up with an extraverted partners social schedule utterly exhausting. I myself prefer days of almost no talking, maximum one social engagement a week etc. It's a requirement that the guy have social skills, and be able to make adequate connection…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 02:55 AM
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Please state what these traits are, how am I supposed to know otherwise? I haven't read all the studies you're referring to, why don't you post them and enlighten us? You're getting the same question all over this thread and you refuse to answer it, are we supposed to read your mind?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 02:28 AM
4

You seriously need therapy, not Reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 01:49 AM
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Please for the love of God don't fake a personality while dating. It's a recipe for misery for everyone concerned. There isn't some one mythical personality that women desire, this portion of attraction is entirely individual. Work on yourself to become the best version of YOU. Having a belief that your personality is intrinsically unwanted by women should be the first thing to address, it's false and self abusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 12:01 AM
3

Ah yes, that old refrain. Am I lying too?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 11:23 AM
2

That's fair enough, I can see how it would
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 01:46 AM
2

This is honestly surprising to hear, which just proves your point
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 01:33 AM
1

Maybe Im lazy, when I want sex I just walk down the hallway and wriggle an eyebrow
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 01:27 AM
2

I think at this point it doesn't quite fit the description of casual, that's a lot of vetting and conditions. It's almost 'boyfriend lite'
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 12:47 AM
2

For sure! But that still lowers the dating pool.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 12:31 AM
4

Are you saying there isn't more pressure to have sex on the first date or soon after? Because that's definitely the case, most guys here say they would have major issues if she doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 12:21 AM
2

That seems like so much effort to be honest. Much easier just to get a boyfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 12:08 AM
7

This so true, I felt so defective for not enjoying casual sex at first, I had to un-indoctrinate myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 12:05 AM
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I'm actually not surprised, there could be lots of reasons for that kind of lifestyle, sexual gratification is just one of them. In my friends case it included rebellion because she comes from a Muslim family and the sneaking around gave her a thrill. In any case I try not to judge but I think it's a minority that has regular casual sex, and an even smaller minority that doesn't get a host of negative consequences from it (and power to them, they're just the exception). And on the topic of enjoy…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 11:54 PM
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Yes we only had one friend that kept doing it too. She had a very high libido and she looked down on all men at the same time, definitely not the average girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 11:00 PM
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Statistically the number of partners in a lifetime is seven for a woman. Take out LTRs and you don't have much casual sex left over. The ones do it get so much attention, the abstaining majority gets ignored. Yes it's easy for women to get it, but most realise it's not worth it, if not initially, then after a bad experience or two. When I was 18 I was essentially peer pressured into trying it because it's seen as normal in the west. I say peer pressured because I really didn't have much innate d…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 09:46 PM
2

I don't love them, but artistic ones or personal interest related ones are fine. Anything gang related, or edgy is an instant write off.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 05:18 AM
1

Men get tits, and its common these days
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 07:05 AM
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I think for women who have just slept with someone, there's a really good chance it runs a hell of a lot deeper than that. Maybe some don't care, maybe some get it, just be mindful that's all
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 03:31 AM
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https://youtu.be/-UqAV25OgRQ This video is really good, it really opened my eyes
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 03:05 AM
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That's fair enough that it's exhausting. Maybe you're the type to give to much and faced with that you can't deal with it. Again a few words will do. "thanks for a great time, I wasn't looking for anything serious, good luck with your future" or something like that. It's simple but it goes along way. You're not responsible for anything beyond that. I'm glad you're taking the time to reconsider your approach. I think ghosting has become so much more normalised since the internet, but it always ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 03:01 AM
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I think it's natural to get attached after intimacy if the person is putting out vibes that they're open to more with the right person, despite explicitly stating that it's just sex. You don't owe them a relationship obviously, but you do owe them the common courtesy of a few brief words before you dip, especially if fun conversation and laughs were in the deal as you mentioned earlier. That's all I'm trying to get across. The fact that they keep on getting attached should tell you that it's pro…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 02:49 AM
1

And they're picking up those vibes
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 02:28 AM
1

Maybe they get hooked hoping they can change your mind. Oh well
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 02:21 AM
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As long as it's clear what it is, you're not doing anything wrong, but it wouldn't kill you to say a couple of words when you leave. It's like having a conversation and someone walking away mid sentence, closure is appropriate in every context
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 02:15 AM
2

Does that 'charming personality' involve leading someone on that the interaction is more than it is? Hopefully not, hopefully you state beforehand, in a charming and funny way, that " this is just meaningless sex ma'am, after I'm going to dip"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 02:11 AM
5

Exactly, thank you for describing it so eloquently. The cherry on the cake is the woman now has a higher N count and is 'worth-less' in the relationship market, which is according to many on this sub is entirely her fault for not having better judgement. Yes sometimes the woman should have been more selective, but VERY often she has been intentionally deceived. Sociopathic abuse and injustice. If you take these type of behaviors to their extreme you get honour killings for being raped. In the we…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 02:06 AM
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I hate that these kinds of interactions are considered normal. ....but yes you are right... it's very poor judgement on the part of the woman to 1. sleep with someone so quickly, and 2. to do it with someone like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 01:50 AM
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You don't need to get attached to have basic manners and consideration, you're just using someone else's supposed flaw as an excuse for your bad behaviour. If anything aren't you the one with the flaw of not getting attached via intimacy? N count too high? Ability to pair bond damaged?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 01:43 AM
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You sound like a sociopath
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 01:37 AM
2

Attractive women have had so many experiences with men that they're often completely put off by them. Being used once or twice makes one suspicious to any future advances, basically trust issues as a result of being mistreated. Well that's one of the reasons anyway, there's probably more.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 11:07 PM
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You're actually doing a lot of damage by just ghosting. It leaves a person emotionally disregulated and continually second guessing about the reason. Is it them, did they do something wrong? it's a real luck in the gut, especially just having been intimate with someone ... It's actually very cruel. I hate that this horrible behaviour has been normalised. Say a few words why before you leave, that's all that's required.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 11:02 PM
2

Men, the oldest teenagers in the house
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 10:10 PM
1

Holy moly
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 07:35 AM
1

Have you ever had a partner that could match that?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 05:44 AM
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By assuming that every girl has slept with someone quickly in the past you automatically eliminate the ones that haven't. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 03:41 AM
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Anyone who's watched footage of her testimony (and isn't an absurdly bad reader of people) doesn't believe her
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 08:43 PM
4

Hiring managers apparently
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 05:25 PM
1

There's more than one reason to intentionally remain single, for example to properly get over the previous relationship as to not carry baggage into a new one. It's not always about holding out for a guy you don't feel 'meh' about. And again the fantasy you specifically describe is really for the delusional, calling a whole gender that is really disingenuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 05:09 PM
1

You're confusing fantasy with actual real world expectations, only the most vacuous of airheads actually think this guy exists
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 10:32 AM
4

Back stabbing, undermining etc all the while while acting sweet, caring and concerned.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 09:21 PM
6

Fair enough
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 09:18 PM
2

I think there's more differences within the genders than between them. Yes my view of human nature has been altered, but the worst people I've met were both men and women. The women in some ways were more shocking because they covered up their bad intentions so well.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 09:16 PM
7

Being agreeable isn't a static trait applicable to every single circumstance, people aren't robots and are in fact capable of thought. You're not wining anything by being this obtuse. When men say agreeable, they usually just mean easy to get along with under normal circumstances, which is frankly not that much to ask for.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 09:11 PM
2

It's the semen vs provision strategy. Men are happy to sow their wild oats far and wide, while choosing only the best woman they can get to provision for. With this woman they select one that's least likely to bear another man's child and proceed to mate guard. In the real world it means fucking any woman that gets their dick hard, while locking down high value low N count wifey. Men are so shocked and horrified by AF/BB but if only they'd look themselves in the mirror. The battle of the sexes i…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 09:05 PM
3

It's possible to be agreeable while having strong boundaries to toxic behaviour. This is the kind of person that is polite, easy to live with, considerate, but stands up to abuse. I used to be an offish bitch for years after coming out of an abusive relationship, but eventually I realised that's not actually strength you know? These days I try to treat everyone with kindness and generosity, but I recognise bad behaviour instantly and that's basically the fastest way to lose the privilege of inte…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 08:56 PM
13

This just made me think of Amber Heard. Depp was totally blinded by her beauty until he was in too deep
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 05:49 AM
2

A lot of them weren't apex men, I get shown their social media, and most of the time the guy has done the chasing
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 04:27 AM
2

Well that's true, good financial management can only be revealed with time. There's also a different vibe between old money and 'self made' (I've met a lot of both) with the latter being way more preferable to me, because it indicates actual skills and effort. To add to that, even if the guy lost everything it's still attractive that he made something to lose in the first place. It shows some positive traits, and people can fall on hard times through no fault of their own ... as all in life it g…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 03:41 AM
3

Ah ok, some people refuse to look at their own reflection, it's a shame because that's the only way you can really grow
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 03:31 AM
2

Replied to the wrong comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 03:22 AM
1

You didn't read my comment very well for that to be the reply
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 03:21 AM
3

Just like guys just look for tits, ass and a pretty face. Or maybe we can live in the real world with real people and have views with moderation.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 02:36 AM
3

Please tell me more about what women like 🤣🤣🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 02:13 AM
3

If your friends were actually interesting they wouldn't be looked over
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 02:10 AM
5

And I have friends with a high N count who are kind, beautiful, considerate people that would make great partners. The numbers got high because men kept pretending to be interested in them to only bail after sex...I can do this all day
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 02:04 AM
5

It's interesting when you apply the exact same argument to both sides
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 01:14 AM
8

Most of the losers I know have poor social skills, and are to varying degrees manipulative and resentful that they're not entitled to the local hottie
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 01:00 AM
4

"Sluts" or just open and accepting, and less likely to be a cold stuck up bitch
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 12:48 AM
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So a 100kg woman is equal to a 100kg man? Please explain Edit: I understand it's an analogy ffs, just not a very clear one
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 11:53 PM
4

A bit like guys read women for slut tells I guess, women like to screen out the losers
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 11:49 PM
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As a woman, actually you can get a pretty good gauge with how a man speaks and carries himself. A guy who is used to making decisive moves, dealing with professional people and having expendable income has certain mannerisms and vocab. There's also a quiet confidence and frame. It's obvious to women who's who. I'm not referring to cockiness and bravado though, that's quite obvious and unattractive to most. You can't really fake it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 09:24 PM
4

Guess what, working on yourself and improving yourself is what leads to happiness. One of those improvements being choosing to be greatfull for what you have, and not letting setbacks get you down for long.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 09:42 PM
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Working on oneself is such an abstract concept Spoken like someone who hasn't done it. Everyone has slightly different things to address. If you sat down and took it seriously you could make a very specific list. Ofcourse to do that you have to have insight into your self, and just to be clear, if you don't have that you're likely to be a shitty partner who blame shifts and doesn't take responsibility for your half of the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 09:35 PM
1

If you make your happiness dependant on external conditions, you're doomed to stress and misery. If you believe that you're miserable because lack of a partner, you will also come across as desperate and repel said potential partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 09:26 PM
0

Who's the common denominator in it 'always ending in drama"?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 09:23 PM
4

Perhaps that's because the stepdad is usually resentful of the kids?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 09:55 AM
3

Ha ha exactly, but if you just go ahead and friendzone it's "duplicitous bitch"
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 02:35 AM
1

If you look at the world population and the percentage that would have a maid it would be 1-2% maximum.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 02:33 AM
4

It's reasonable, yet it's too much for me to ask, that's the issue
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 02:30 AM
4

Yeah, I'm from Australia, house help is for the upper crust only.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 01:23 AM
4

Well now you know that's probably not the case, but I can't speak for all women I guess
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 01:21 AM
14

Your experience is rare, most people don't have house maids.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 12:40 AM
4

My partner suggested this and we trialled it, he couldn't hack it, the kids drove him up the wall! He rage quit.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 09:31 PM
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As someone who's spent a couple of years staying home with a toddler, going back to work felt like a holiday. The commute was a heavenly peaceful time I could just relax and listen to an audiobook. The moment I got home I was expected to instantly throw myself into childcare and housework, which I did because I frankly felt recharged. Now let's compare to my partner who expects at least half an hour of down time (shower, toilet, smoke) before you 'start nagging'.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 09:28 PM
2

I won't deny the existence of shit tests, I've used them a lot, and once again it's only a half conscious thing to see how masculine a man really is. It's very instinctual. This part of RP is spot on imho.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 09:10 PM
1

That's not 'just banging', that's banging with investment
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 08:35 PM
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In a way it's a vote for the guy that I think he can do better, I was nudging him to compete because I subconsciously thought he could match or exceed what I was talking about. A guyvI was less attracted to wouldn't inspire that train of thought. Once again I have to repeat that I'm aware this is a dumb/gross thing to do/say. Just explaining the back end of a woman's psyche.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 07:59 PM
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