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That's already bad enough for me. I really hate this absurd mentality that random innocent individual I somehow has a greater responsibility to problem P because problem P is primarily caused by random members of some group G I belong to. As long as I is innocent I has no greater responsibility than anyone else
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/19 04:35 PM
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Okay so how much does your whole story fall apart when I don't want to have children and if I were to go mad and have a child I'd not have it with someone else but have it alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 11:23 PM
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To be fair there are a lot more sluts than people who really can't get sex at all. "incel" as in zero sex is kind of more so the equivalnet of not just slut but outright sexual addiction and managing to fulfil it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 11:03 PM
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You know what I think: I think ugly virgins are shamed but pretty ones aren't. And I think ugly sluts aren't shamed half as much as pretty ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 11:03 PM
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A contract can always have more than two parties involved in it. Yes, marriage is an agreement between three parties; two citizens and the state which each having responsibilities to the other two. Would you say that marriage is not a legally binding agreement between three parties?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 02:18 PM
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No, you cannot, that is not how it works. But that is besides the point, it was never intended to be a contract, it's not a contract in form or function or execution even asmuchas people like to believe it confers "promises and expectations" amongst the parties. It's a contract in every form and function except for the state saying that it's not a contract. It's a binding agreement between two parties that isn't binding until you sign it. But because the state says "it's not a contract if it's c…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 01:35 PM
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Okay, either these studies are completely irreproducible and come with completely different results or your lecturer did what I accused you off and one might expect more of a lecturer but I wouldn't even be surprised.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 02:03 AM
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Yeah I think it's really weird that officials just allow people to get married and don't force you to read it. Like usually officials are required to inform you of such things. Like if you get arrested police officers are required to inform you of your rights right? If they didn't inform you it doesn't count; you can't just say "Well you should've read up on your rights yourself!" as a police officer; the state has a greater responsibility to its citizens than the citizens to the state of course…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 01:40 AM
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Why do we feel sorry for them but people who signed for mortgages without reading the terms? Same thing, right? The difference is as I said that that isn't legally binding. The drafter has an obligation to tell you to read the terms and to inform you that there are terms. Contracts are about people actually understanding what they are agreeing to before they agree; this whole idea of "didn't read the fine print containing ridiculous terms" actually being enforced is something out of fiction. Yet…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 12:13 AM
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Almost every man was attracted to his female friends. Almost every man thought his female friend was attracted to him (men overrate themselves and misinterpret platonic smiles from girls as sexual). And almost every man said he would date his female friends (otherwise why would they be friends if their personalities can't get along). Really? Because I either read this study or I read one that did the exact same thing but came to a totally different result: https://www.bleske-rechek.com/April%20W…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/19 08:02 PM
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More like "not attracted to each other" which seems to carry a different connotation than "not finding attractive". Like let's say someone says of their sibling "I consider my sibling quite attractive."; that doesn't imply an actual attraction I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/19 07:49 PM
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So the RPWs also say yes or do they just not exist?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/19 07:46 PM
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It's even simpler I feel: "You can't be friends with someone you don't want to be friends with"—which makes it even more obvious. The thing is that a lot of people who want to be "more than friends" actually don't want to be friends and would turn around and walk away if they in some way were 100% certain they would never be more than friends; they stick it out on false hope. There are also people who know it and are fine with it because they also enjoy being friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/19 07:44 PM
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I mean due to this you even get things like that there are certain memory tests where females on average score better at than males yet 90% of the absolute super top scorers like the 0.5% are male.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/19 05:14 PM
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Marriage is not a contract because there is no contract, there are no "terms" there are state statutes which dictate marital rights and obligations. Like I said you can turn any contract into a "non contract" that way to remove the judicial check on fairness of contracts. They could do the exact same thing tomorrow with employment contracts and just make them state statues instead of terms. but I doubt many people are unaware of the concept of marital property these days, or that child support, …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/19 04:16 PM
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The terms of marriage are quite clear no one walks in blind. I'm pretty sure the majority of people who get married don't read the terms nor do they have any government official who tells them "go read the terms before you sign up for this" In normal contract law that actually means the agreement isn't binding: the drafter normally has obligation to ensure that the person who accepts the agreement actually read and understood it. The actual terms of marriage are things only legal experts on the …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/19 03:38 PM
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So what if the cheater is the one benefiting from the divorce?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/19 03:32 PM
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Why would reproducing be a good thing? Why would anyone care about propagating genes; what does it do for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/19 09:43 PM
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I am honestly more concerned about being stranded on an island with 101 humans than the sexual distribution and attractiveness of those individuals. If it were the reverse, I'd imagine it'd have the probability of being very violent with men killing each other mercilessly to be the one who gets to reproduce. No.... EDIT 2: You girls don't care too much about reproduction. TIL the human species would die out if this was the last hope for human civilization. Neither do most males to the extend tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/19 02:23 PM
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What does it do for you to pass your genes on and "win the game of life"? Seeing how many genes one shares with siblings one might argue you lose it more anyway if both you and a sibling have 1 child each compared to the sibling having 3 but you 0 in which case more of your genes will enter the pool.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/19 05:32 PM
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I'm not raising children in general: fuck that shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/19 05:12 PM
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I don't care about infidelity myself. Have fun; it's your body.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/19 02:26 PM
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As far as I know the Netherlands does not have sex-segregated prisons no. Most nations in North-West Europe practice a prison system without a "general population" thing; everyone has their own cell and gangs are strictly prohibited and of course the focus is rehabilitation so it's fairly easy. Like US prisons look like that whereas Dutch prisons look like this. Also, North-West European states nowadays tend to have non-segregated dorms and showers in the military and this has reduced reports of…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/19 03:42 AM
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Yap and in almost all of those cases where people are afraid of it it's clear that the fear is created by media and socialization not about actual threat assessment. People in general are strangely afraid of things that are statistically not likely to hit them and very careless with a lot of things that are far more likely to seriously harm them because what makes people afraid of something is not statistics; statistics have never inspired fear; it's media and socialization. Edit: and as I said …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/19 03:29 AM
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Well I don't personally believe it's "socialization" so much as a natural, ingrained fear that women have due to their inherent vulnerability as smaller, weaker animals. Then why is it so cultural? Why are they more afraid even about things males are more likely to get hit by? If you tell your female children to be careful every time that danger is looming everywhere and not your male ones that has an effect and creates a difference of course. But either way the result is the same -- the gender …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/19 03:17 AM
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Well because it's irrational and not based on statitsics and what is likely to hurt you. If you want to be safe then be strategic about it and actually look up the statistics: for instance most of this socialization focuses on making people afraid of stranger rape and violence whilst in reality people—especially females—have a higher chance of suffering rape and violence from someone they intimately know. Most rapes and beatings do not happen in dark alleys by strangers but by family members, lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/19 03:08 AM
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I think robbers just realize that males carry more money on average than females to be honest. Even in a perfect behavioural vacuum robbers would logically target males more because they tend to have more cash on them. But let's assume this is true: why aren't parents socializing males to do the same then? And as said there are other way more likely causes of pretty bad shit like just being hit by a car but it seems like the US which is kind of this gendered socialization is also the place where…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/19 03:00 AM
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Nope—that's a cultural thing I gather. Females in almost any culture seem to be socialized into fear. Apparently I'm living in one of the few cultures where it doesn't really happen. Apparently it also already happens in say Sweden but it's a typical Dutch/German thing to leave this part of the upbringing out. My parent warmed me to not go with strangers I didn't know as a child yes as in obvious predators who pray on children but it was never said in a gendered context and my male sibling got t…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/19 02:54 AM
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I mean a big thing is that TBP has six times as many subscribers and all. As the names indicated the "blue pill" is supposedly the default belief most people have so they don't really need a specific sub for their ideas.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/19 02:43 AM
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To be fair—people—of either sex—have a tendency of assuming that anyone who does not provide clear evidence to being female is male. People seem to assume males are more numerous than they are wherever because they just assume people are male if there's no real evidence either way. Like this post was written by someone who's neither male, nor white, nor from the US—it seems like on reddit people assume those three things out of nowhere a lot in the affirmative.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/19 02:41 AM
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I can kind of respect MGTOW in theory. I don't get this "I want affection from those I dislike"; if you truly believe a sex is so horrible then put your money where your mouth is and stop trying to win its affection. Like what are you even doing being attracted to people you dislike?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/19 02:38 AM
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I find the "males are the polygynous sex by nature" argument to be highly unconvincing. History worked that way because that was the only legal way it happened back then. There have been a lot of places with legal polygyny but not legal polyandry. If you look at places where both are permitted it seems like polyandry is the natural evolution. It's a known meme that when a male-female relationship is opened up that the female will quickly score a bunch of extra male lovers but the male will not a…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 07:48 PM
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Fellatio, so you often hear.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 05:30 PM
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It's the "my enemies are legion"-syndrome that some people seem to suffer from where they in earnesty seem to believe that their detractors are way more common than they actually are and their allies far and few between because they more vividly remember it when they see something they dislike; it makes a stronger memory or something. Methinks it's the same kind of person who staunchly believes its winrate in a video game with matchmaking that ensures a 50% winrate to be something like 25%. Thos…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 01:08 AM
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You can't see the difference between good "no makeup makeup" and "very good skin" so if people truly like no makeup they just like a coarse skin. And I'm one of those people; I don't really like smooth skin and like coarse skin I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 11:35 PM
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Personally I'm rocking the "not a comb has been in this hair for more than half my lifetime and it reaches till my knees due to all the tangles" hairstyle look, also very low maintainance and I don't even have to cover it before I leave the door.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 11:33 PM
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Some of them even don't wear makeup themselves and have a mirror—so they say.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 11:30 PM
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i have a feeling you respect artists, no? are they capable of producing something approaching 'truth'? how could that be possible. I have no idea what art has to do with truth or falsehood; it makes no factive statement. what can science tell you about your soul? for your sake i hope it's little to nothing.. or are you a machine I have no idea what the word "soul" means and I never saw a definition,.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 01:46 PM
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Extramarital sex—with or without the consent of the spouse—is legal almost anywhere. You don't need to be married to have sex with someone; this isn't the 1600s.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 01:33 PM
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Freud theorizing about anecdotal experiences is hardly science.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 01:31 PM
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According to psychology, we tend to seek out partners who are similar to our parents. Isn't this just Freud who got it out of nowhere? In any case I've no idea what my paternal biological parent is like; never really spoke to it much. I've been told we're very alike in many ways though so in that respect I probably would; I've been told that it's just as bohemian and calculating as I am and that's what I seek in a friendship.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 12:16 PM
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"lol fuck you" I hate all those relationships which are about ego massage shit and giving each other compliments and stuff. I wanna say what's on my mind without having to worry about whether that makes people feel good or bad and I hate that "making feel desired" or whatever shit and dislike people who give compliments to give compliments or insults to give insult; all statements should be matter-of-fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 01:03 AM
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I didn't say anything about how they looked; I talked about "attractive" which has many qualities for people including looks but people have a habit of considering behaviour of treating them like an object as unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 11:38 PM
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I never said that at all. People generally mean with "masculine" "that which is more common in males" and with "feminine" "that which is more common in females". I just think it's strange that you would not describe a female as masculine if it embodied those very same features you described as masculine when a male does it. Hence it seems to me that you just call a male "masculine" when it embodies virtues even if those virtues are more common with females and would probably just call a female "…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 11:27 PM
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No. There is no personality trait or set of values that only applies to men and women, and most ideals for both men and women will be the same, even if the expression differs. Okay, so why did you choose to call those things "masculine" then? Because to me these just seem like random virtues. It seems to me that you j just elect to call a male "masculine" when it embodies certain virtues but when a female embodies those very same virtues then it's not "masculine"? That seems like a really weird …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 10:31 PM
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Measured and calm, of service to those around him, knows his limits, knows his strengths, genuine, curious, strong convictions, active and compassionate listener, accountable, hard working, competent leader, ability to seek guidance when needed. So if a female has those traits is it masculine too then? Or does this only apply to males?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 09:25 PM
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Yeah people want to be approached by people they consider attractive. And they usually don't consider PUA's attractive nor the PUA approach so there you go.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 09:23 PM
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I didn't see a message on this sub or website that it's US-centric. Red pill is just a US-based movement that talks about US "daring" life. I mean "dates" in and of itself are an Anglic thing; there is no French, German, or Greek word for "date" because people don't go on dates there.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 02:44 PM
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It discusses ultra-Americacentric, ultra-heteronormative "couple" thingies.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 01:32 AM
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Hans Reiser apparently met its spouse whom it later murdered by going on a date with a mail order bride and hiring the future-spouse as a translator and then realizing it liked the translator more than the date.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 01:27 AM
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Yeah I think a lot of historical analysis forgets to mention that the only female profession that existed for a long time was basically professional baby producer. Like this was before contraceptives and with high infant morality claiming like 80% of the infants in early years so you kept on trying a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 11:58 PM
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When cells were first discovered it was already a debate between the so-called spermist and ovist schools; the spermists subscribed to your belief that the sperm contained a homunculus that needed the uterus to become a homo but the ovists believed that the ova contained the homunculus and the sperm was merely some kind of fertilzied.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 11:53 PM
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Scenario 1: Husband is infertile, wife is fertile. Wife quietly finds an...alternative...method of conceiving. Outcome: The marriage produces children. Conclusion: no blame to be thrown around. I don't think this is that common. The alternative route of some fertility treatment or adoption seems way more common than me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 11:45 PM
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I said in another post recently that I heavily lean in the reverse direction. I think that paternity tests should be mandatory before anyone is named parent and that "presumption of parenthood" is a stupid principle. If your claim to legal parentage is based upon supposed biological parentage then it should be proven; paternity tests should be a matter of standard procedure. The "disruptive elements" of it are when people find out that a child they've been invested in for 10 years is not their b…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 11:43 PM
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One thing the RP talks about its frame and keeping a level cool head to fix the situation To be fair those ideas are hardly idiosyncratic of the RP; the RP also tells you to not murder your fellow man, like almost anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 11:20 PM
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I do not claim to be scared at all. This neverending fear is a socialization that some cultures cast onto females since their childhood that they must always be afraid. Like you even see them being afraid for things that are statistically more likely to happen to males and the males aren't afraid. Fear is seldom based in reality; fear is based on socialization and media; and this isn't even a gendered thing: it's the age old situation that everyone is afraid of terrorism and not of being hit by …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 11:17 PM
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Yeah so it's inconsistent that I give them right to choose in one area but not in another? Gee, I guess that means that people who believe in taxes but also that people have the right to decide their own hair colour are terribly inconsistent because you must either believe in full laissez fair no law anarchy or total authoritarian nanny state.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 10:01 PM
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I don't give a fuck. You can't be a libertarian and a socialist at the same time. It's difficult is it when you need to put people into boxes and you encounter someone with political opinions you can't easily stick one of your unimaginative labels to. Oh my god man, someone who isn't from the US but from a country with 25 political parties has political opinons that don't easily mix into the US binary political landscape—this can't be! You either give people complete power over their financial r…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 06:57 PM
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Yeah until you're hit with an accident and you suddenly find yourself in a country with absolutely no safety net for the disabled all to get those mighty tax breaks. The USA doesn't have more to spend than other places simply becausr people need to buy everything themselves again.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 04:21 PM
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You must be from the united states. Its a zero sum with money. You're either paying out directly or via taxes. People in the USA have been tricked into "tax cuts" but they're just paying it anyway because education and healthcare isn't free and they have to pay 4 million for kids they either don't want our aren't theirs to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 04:02 PM
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I don't believe in involuntary parentage and I don't think genetic relationships should play any legal part in parentage. I think parental rights (and duties) can be demanded from co-operative conception. If two or more people together decide to let a child be conceived; whether they are the biological parents or use a sperm bank or whatever then they are both parents at that point with all the rights and duties and can demand those rights and duties from the other if the pregnancy was planned b…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 03:19 PM
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They most certainly aren't to me—especially in personality and especially males. Males seem to very often around 25 become boring; females longer seem to retain that childlike flexibility and openmindedness that adults lack; it's pretty hard to encounter males who are older than 25 and still pack an interesting conversation; their brain is rusted and no interesting insight can be produced any more it seems.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 01:26 PM
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And why like 80% of homeless people are male. Testosterone is a hormone that makes you take risks; people who take risks either end up at the top or at the bottom obviously, but the bottom is invisible.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 01:22 PM
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You don't know that in an LTR either eh? I mean how do you know your doctor is lying about you not having HIV simply because the doctor hates your race and wants to fuck you over? A degree of trust is required—sadly—to make the world workable; you can't check everything yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 12:17 AM
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It's exclusive when you agree it's exclusive. Some people do this due to STDs.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 12:15 AM
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I would not want my SO to run in and start swinging because I believe the situation you described does not warrant violent confrontation unless the other party escalates. And in the very unlikely event that does happen, I will defend along side my SO. The thing is that committing a crime against a criminal is still a crime. How you handle being the victim of a crime is the difference between in the eyes of the law you simply being a victim or both of you being criminals. Make no mistake—criminal…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 12:13 AM
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I believe women prefer men to fight for them. Not this one— I want no one—regardless the sex—to fight for me who wouldn't fight for everyone, not verbally and not physically. The only time I accept people to fight for me is if it's not about me and I feel it's just helping your fellow man out in a way that's decent to help anyone out. Like if you see someone being beaten on the street by someone and there's four bystanders of course the bystanders need to rush in and help the poor sucker but tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 12:10 AM
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I don't "identify" as anything and deplore any and all identity—having said that you probably just want to ask about people who experience and act upon attraction to the same sex. My take is that y'all are nuts: that sexual orientations don't exist and that human beings for the most part are attracted to all sexes and yes also 14 year old children that are sexually mature; that "relationships" and "pair bonding" are recent human inventions that human beings did without for 92 000 years before th…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/19 04:13 PM
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Permit me to sound a bit incel for a second but women, by and large, want Chad and want him to commit. Chad, by and large, goes for Stacy and marries her. So are Chad and Stacy actually certain types or just a personal thing of "Chad is whomever you find attractive"? Because if "Chad" is what I think it is then no, females do not by and large go for Chad nor are females interesting in making Chad commit; homosexual males by and large are interested in chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/19 11:11 AM
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You need to take one look at the polyamory community to deduce that this idea that polygamy leads to polygyny is the opposite of truth. The reason it was more common historically is because polyandry wasn't legal so of course if it isn't legal for one female to have multiple male spouses that it doesn't really happen. Legal symmetric polygamy overwhelmingly leads to polyandry with females having multiple male partners by and large, not the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/19 11:10 AM
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People who say that they get emotional about infidelity due to pregnancy or STD risks are full of shit unless they experience zero of such emotion when it involves only a kiss or some sex act that doesn't spread STDs nor pregnancy like jerking someone off. People don't get angry about infidelity due to any of that; that's just a rationalization; I mean people even get hurt when the object of their desire chooses someone other than them. People dislike infidelity simply because they don't like th…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/19 03:42 AM
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I once read a thread on an incel board where someone asked if they would have sex with fat people if they had the opportunity and the overwhelming majority answered that they wouldn't but they still consider themselves involuntarily single. But basically they consider themselves the lowest of the low in terms of attractiveness but they are not willing to settle for what they perceive as similarly low; they're basically "involuntarily single" in their own view because they expect a notch above th…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/19 12:16 AM
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Surely you've seen a lot of arguments of the kind of "capital punishment is wrong because humans are the only species which kill their own"?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/19 07:30 PM
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Ahh, so I guess my aunt who's 60 now who 5 years ago fell in love with someone it has known from work for 8 years prior; that didn't happen either?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/19 03:48 PM
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A lot of people do; particularly in the transgender debate you read a lot of bad science where correlations are taken to an absolute where people belief there is a simple binary distinction between brains and that a neurologist can just put a brain under a brain scanner and with complete certainty say whether it "identifies as male or female". Quite a few people seem to at least believe there is a simple neurological test you can perform on a brain to establish that with certainty and that isn't…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/19 03:45 PM
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Ah, so those people in my class in secondary school that initially never spoke to each other and two years later after being left to do a project together get to know each other and fall in love they just... didn't exist?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/19 03:42 PM
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I find this whole argument of "humans are the only species that ...; therefore ... is wrong" is so absurd. Humans are the only species with a criminal justice system so let's go to full anarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/19 12:48 PM
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Ah, so all those people that initially didn't even notice each other but later fell in love after getting to know each other don't exist?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/19 10:51 AM
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It's simple. If a woman doesn't fuck you on the first date it just means she's not attracted to you One might argue that—does one need to be attracted to people on the first date already? And don't look for that so called NAWALT, for the last time she doesn't exist. That nerdy socially awkward chick is out having tonnes of sex too As a matter of fact I do indeed—with people I know longer than one day. Basically your point seems to be "you need to be attracted to people on the first date" which' …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/19 07:41 AM
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This is really the problem with people in general; the exists of "established ideologies". Basically they are all monoliths that group many unrelated ideas together and people feel like just because they like some of it they have to force themselves to like all of it. A lot of these ideologists, philosophies, religions and shit with a name are really a bunch of unrelated stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 09:44 PM
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It has nothing to do with "desperation" why I dislike it. A) I don't like to accept gifts because that makes me indebted and B) anyone who does anything out of "social identity" feeling they need to do shit just because society says their stupid little social box needs to is obnoxious and difficult to reason with. I don't care about others being able "to provide for me" because I don't let others; I keep finances separate so the material wealth of my associates is not relevant for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 08:02 PM
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That's absolutely not true; it was the case in some yes but patrilineal last names go back extremely long in Korea which is why 1/3 of Koreans nowadays has the last name Kim because this system leads to family name extinction and if it goes on long enough eventually everyone has the same last name since in theory no new last names can be created but they can be lost if there is no male heir. There are a lot of cultures with patrilineal last names where nevertheless females upon marriage retain t…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 04:43 PM
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It's about 30/70 across the world I guess. It happens in Anglic countries, Germany, Slavic places, Nordic places except for Iceland where last names are completely different and Japan. It does not happen in the Netherlands, Romance places, Arabic places, China, Trukey, Persia, and Korea. It historically happened in Greece but it was banned. In all the other places I mentioned it just never was a thing historically.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 02:26 PM
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So "two sides of the same coin" now means "both have completely different opinions and worldviews that are both angry and wrong?" Wel then a lot of stuff in this world is two sides of the same coin and the term kind of becomes useless.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/19 07:10 AM
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The brains aren't "the same"; there's just no such thing as a male or female brain. Everyone has a unique brain; whist some parts of the brain de correlate with sex this is really to be seen as that 30% of either sex has that brain region in the expected value of the opposite sex. In a lot of these "gender brain" things as well as in the whole transgender debate people very often take a correlation and elevate it to an absolutism or even take a plurality and transform it into an entirety for wha…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 11:56 PM
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That doesn't really change that every topic on that sub is someone complaining about something though and my argument that this doesn't mean per se they have it so bad but just that they're socialized to complain a lot. Or in this case socialized to depend a lot on "emotional support" and strangers on the internet telling them they did nothing wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 03:14 PM
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political movements don't exist, everything is just buzzwords. It's almost like politics is indeed purposefully fought by vagueness and being as aspecific as possible. It's called "muddying the waters" and a time-honoured political strategy be to be as vague about your plans as you can because that way people hear what they want to hear. Just come with vague terms like "We wil make America great again!" don't at all specify what you mean with "great" and how you're going to implement it because …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 12:49 PM
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Take one big look at r/twoxchromsomes my god. And this is the point; I don't hold the fact that females complain way more than males as evidence that they have it worse; it's just more socially acceptable for them to complain. But every US-filled female-only space on the internet becomes a total whine-fest. Like every single topic on r/twoxchromosomes is someone being sad and complaining about something; if it's not systemic problems it's their personal situation. Like a of those topics have not…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 11:12 AM
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No, my point is that the strength principle doesn't apply if a female happens to be stronger or equally strong as a male. If it was truly about "females are weaker than males" as OP claims then OP should have no problem when that situation doesn't apply. It's not rewording the principle; it's wording a different principle which cuts to the meat.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 07:02 PM
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Why would it be gender discrimination to say that a weak person hitting a strong person is different than vice versa?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 06:54 PM
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To be fair economics is also a place where they love to use fancy terms to make what is essentially wet fingerwork sound like hard science.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 06:53 PM
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It was called "alpha" and "beta" no doubt to make it sound scientific and give it more credence as if it was based on research instead of just self-help guru shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 06:40 PM
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They don't even exist in wolves. The original thing with wolves was that there was a picking order in the pack supposedly; a linear transitive hierarchy with the alpha at the top and the omega at the bottom. The Beta was actually the second-in-command so not that bad at all. The original researcher who came up with this view later retracted it and spent considerable time trying to erase it; the major problem with it was that it relied on behaviour that was only observed in captivity that doesn't…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 06:39 PM
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Okay so why didn't you just say then "a weak person hitting a strong person is different than vice versa" All these indirections and proxies of correlations to me betray that it's really just about gender roles; if you'd truly cared about the principle you would've cut out all the proxies and just made it about strength versus weakness directly.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 05:12 PM
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And if it worked like that there would be a long waiting list before you could get started with psychotherapy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 04:36 PM
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Okay, let's say it is; so then I'm not at my place, not in the right way, but with the right attire. So what's going to happen now that I'm not "at my place"? is this bad somehow and in hat way?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 03:54 PM
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As far as the receiving end goes the simple appeal for me is that I like the sensation and I don't in the menstrual matter canal and that never really did something for me. It's not that I don't feel it; I can feel it's there; the feeling is just about as interesting as having something in my hand. I do not subscribe to all these extracirricular explanations of "It's taboo"; or it makes you feel submissive" or whatever; it's purely the physical sensation for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 12:12 PM
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There's a lot of individual variance reading the stories on r/sex. I'm personally one of those people who doesn't need lube; doesn't need to take a dump prior and shit never happened; I can suck a dick that's just been in there and I taste nothing; that s just how my rectum is formed I guess; other people have very different experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 12:10 PM
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Anyone who says anything—positive, negative, or neutral—about "feminism" just has an emotional attachment in whatever direction to the term which is the only reason this useless buzzword together with most other useless political terms like "conservative", "liberal" and-what not continue to exist. It's not a meaningful descriptor because it has no universally agreed upon definition and everyone defines and and redefines it and true-scotsman-fallacies appear everywhere because it's just a term of…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 11:56 AM
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"ethnic" is just the term for "non white" right?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 08:07 AM
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The thing about "self help" is that most of the time it's not designed to actually help people because that would represent a loss of a client so it's designed to make you feel like you're getting help whilst making you come back for more. Indeed—it's not too different from professional help in that; a psychotherapists who actually successfully solves your shit loses a client; keep that in mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 08:06 AM
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No I did not because initially you didn't mention the ending and you said it was about actually having anxiety. So now your entire gripe is basically "demisexual is bullshit because it ends in -sexual and I believe the 'LGBT community' owns the ending -sexual which is a completely productive part of the English language that predates it by far"?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 08:03 AM
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There is no reason for the word itself. Let's say there isn't that in no way is related to the "LGBT appropriation" nor to the "you just have anxiety" that's an entirely different argument. In any case I see no bigger or smaller reasons for this label than any other; labelers gonna label and if you're just against all these self-identified label then that's a more consistent approach but saying that there's a reasonf or all these "LGBT" labels but not this one is a dual standard. It means partia…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 07:35 AM
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Demisexuality is LGBT appropriation. It is a label most commonly taken by straight people to pretend to be LGBT. The definition of a label for actual honest to god snowflakes. I have never seen anyone do this; if you google the phrase and see the articles about it none of them mention "LGBT". They simply indeed just claim this: Demis claim that "Oh well I can't have any attraction to someone at all unless I have formed a connection!" Has nothing to do with "LGBT". 1) You have anxiety that cannot…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 06:38 AM
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I don't even really feel it happens in England much. It's really an American and maybe Canadian thing where smalltalk with strangers is a very common custom. In a bar or club it's totally different as people go there just for that but I don't up there much but at a library or starbucks? People go there to work or drink and chatting up to people you don't know without having business would be seen as quite impolite.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 05:44 PM
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I get it just fine as much as I got it the first time when I said it was all sexual morality.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 03:17 PM
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That doesn't answer my question though. Your same logic applies to singers, actors, ballet dancers and really all performing artists so would you also call them objectified? Because if you don't you'd have to concede that the difference is indeed that the performing art in this case is sex and that we are right back where we started that I called it sexual morality.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 02:56 PM
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Oh I guess then every actor and every singer is objectified because people derive pleasure from their work. No, the only reason you call it objectified when it involves sex is because again sex is involved. When the viewer derives peasure from watching ballet or opera is the performer then "objectified"?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 02:49 PM
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That’s the one. You don’t understand that most mainstream porn is designed to appeal to men so it’s going to make the woman the focus of it to allow the viewer to substitute themselves into the scene. I understand that just fine, why would I not understand that? I'm just saying that the end result is that males are the ones being objectified in it. So, the porn clearly shows the woman enjoying it and obviously the dude whacking it to the porn is enjoying it. That dude also doesn’t care if the du…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 02:43 PM
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This one? Porn by and large treats males like a dispensible pleasure toy for females and the only reason people say it objectifies females is again because they want to protect female innocence and not be reminded of the idea that females also like sex. With that I mean the enacted scenario, not the outside world. As in in the scene they depict it the male characters are treated as dispensible pleasure toys for the female characters and no one would even know if the males are enjoying themselves…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 02:10 PM
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I don't think they're shy as much as that the Netherlands like most places is not a culture where it's acceptable to try to socially engage with a stranger. In some cultures like North America or Mediterranean cultures it is very normal to start to small talk with strangers; in the Netherlands and say Germany or Finland that's not appreciated.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 10:27 AM
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How does that in any way argue against or contradict what I said? You explained why it is so, you didn't contest that it is so.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 10:23 AM
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So? That seems like a very good explanation as to why the male is objectified and not the female; doesn't change hat the situation is.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 09:12 AM
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What if they don't want to?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 11:14 PM
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Well I didn't really talk about feminists though. I talked about people who feel that porn objectifies females more than males. I'm saying the only reason you can possibly arrive at that conclusion is if you have this typical sexual morality of wanting to keep females pure and innocent and find any association of sex with them objectionable.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 09:35 PM
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As far as I understand it "exclusivity talks" are basically a US cultural idiosyncrasy. I had never heard of such a thing prior to the internet as well as all those US talks and "defining the relationship"; in most cultures all of that is implied from context.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 08:35 PM
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I'll say this about porn that I said somewhere else recently: that people say porn objectifies females rather than males just comes from princess-protection morality and trying to keep females pure and innocent. I can't possibly fathom how anyone could say that porn objectifies females instead of males in general. Most porn flicks treat the male actor like a life support device for their penis is which pretty much the only body part shown; their face isn't shown much and they're treated like a b…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 08:00 PM
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Netherlands—I find all these approaching rituals in some other parts of the world mystifying. Apparently you're also supposed to get the hint if someone offers to "buy you a drink" if someone did that I would be exactly as weirded out as a total stranger on the street gives me a pack of crackers and says "for you" and then leaves again.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 07:28 PM
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The only random compliments I got are by females and those are always about clothing or hair. I'm pretty sure this "cold approach" thing doesn't really happen where I live except by some North African immigrants and apparently they don't do it when you're not chubby and I'm anything but. If someone came up to me to ask my number I would honestly be mystified and in the moment not get the "hint" of their intentions and honestly wonder why someone I don't know wants my number and second guess myse…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 07:22 PM
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I do a lot of Wikipedia and TVTropes blackholism and read technical manuals for programming languages a lot; the only fiction that I read is erotic literature and that's rare. I think all your pills are silly and your American is equally inscrutable and does not apply to me as a European. I think "feminism" is a vague word that is defined differently by anyone. I reject gender as a social identity along with all other social identities and care not for the plight of identity groups and want ever…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 12:35 PM
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Because similar numbers also exist for single people? Males make more money in general a large part of it is that females are more likely to want part-time work because they seem to like free time more. Like where I live there are very strong part time work protections by law. As in employers have to offer it unless they absolutely cannot and they have to argue in a court of law that the situation of the company cannot afford offering part time work right now but when this change was implementin…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 09:08 AM
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Average women between 18 and 30 are not that unattractive. https://stylecaster.com/average-women-beauty/ "average males" by these algorithms also look "better than average" The paradox is that the average is better than average—why? because people value symmetry and smooth skin and these average algorithms always create something with a perfectly symmetrical face and perfectly smooth skin because asymmetries statistically go as often to the left as to the right and the skin uneveness obviously i…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 07:24 AM
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I disagree. It seems to me that when you ask a female of "How do you react when a male hits on you?" then it responds thinking about the average male. When a male is asked this in reverse they seem to answer in their mind about a female that is considerably more aesthetic than average and the media probably creates this. Like look for instance at the MCU or similar franchises; lots of very average to outright ugly males in there but you're going to be hard pressed to find even one ugly female ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 07:22 AM
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The only old and arguably powerful person I find somewhat attractive is Patti Smith who happens to be female.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/18 06:43 PM
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Well I'm just saying that it's an ambiguity in language. Sometimes when people say "woman" they mean adult human female as in by the law. The term "woman" vs "girl" is entirely social and has no basis in biology of course. adult at 18 is arbitrary on every single level. Human beings are not a species that undergoes metamorphosis and despite what people often say the brain never stops "maturing" and is never "done" at any specific point; that's what makes it such a powerful tool: its ability to c…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/18 06:12 PM
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I personally find this tree to be very interesting a linguistic facet of English: - man - - man - - - man - - - boy - - woman - - - woman - - - girl Basically depending on the context "woman" can mean "adult human female" or "human female" and "man" can mean either "human", "human male" or "adult human male". It's a somewhat common phenomenon in English and other languages that interestingly enough the "most important" part of the whole is given the same name as the whole hence "America" can ref…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/18 06:05 PM
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As said these studies show that females are more likely to do that than males. So basically it's like 5% of males do it and 15% of females do it; females are three times as likely as males and people then conclude that all females do it for whatever. Turning a plurality into an entirety is a very common fallacy people make.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/18 05:15 PM
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Because the idea that females prefer that is nonsense and overblown and as usual people take research out of context. What research fines is that females are overwhelmingly more likely than males to accept a rich and powerful but old mate. So people then take that research's conclusions and conclude that since females are more likely to do it than males that means that all females like that whislt in reality it's still a small faction. People do that a lot, turning a plurality into an entirety.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/18 04:44 PM
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No form of bigotry is a "choice". I find this argument so weak; people don't choose to be racist either and if you can criticize that then you can criticize this. Apart from that the main problem is the pretentiousness; it may not be a choice but if people don't treat males and females equally they shouldn't pretend they do either and just admit that at the end of the day they're not comfortable with a world without gender roles where males and females are truly treated the same. (so say goodbye…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/18 03:48 PM
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But can't the same logic flow work for us "evil" cis hetero folk? If you claim to be for ending gender roles (things most blue pill people would say I THINK), but aren't willing to get to know/be friends with/date/marry/casually fuck/etc them, then are you really for ending gender roles? Yap, this is exactly what I think is paradoxical about this argument. Supposedly it is bigoted to not date trans people because they identify as a particular gender but categorically excluding an entire gender i…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/18 03:46 PM
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Yeah, they found a correlation between some parts of the brain and gender identity just like you can find a correlation between parts of the brain and everything because surprise surprise the brain is the decision making part of the human body and is a physical machine that dictates our every thought. There are also correlations found between parts of the brain and a youthful personality just like every trait. What else would you expect? If they weren't there there would be "magical consciousnes…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/18 03:31 PM
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The medical community supports it due to social reasons. Same reason thy declassified homosexuality as a "mental illness" and now DSM IV has also removed many other paraphilia; it had nothing to do with new knowledge but because it became socially acceptable. There was actually a time when the psychiaric community considered being aroused by porn a mental illness—obviously because it wasn't socially acceptable to. I mean there wer even psychiatrists who had this illness of "slaves irrationally b…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/18 03:18 PM
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Attractive is something else than aesthetic; a basic example of how they are different is that a lot of adults would content that young children are more aesthetic than adults or that various animals are but they aren't attractive, same with close relatives. A lot of visual traits are often perceived as simultaneously not aesthetic but also attractive such as scars or wrinkles. A lot of people also seem to believe that whilst males are attractive and females are not it is often females who are m…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/18 01:16 PM
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I'm female, introverted, 181cms, not good looking at all, and clinically depressed and have had multiple casual romantic relationships running simultaneously essentially since 14 years old but most of them have always been female. I'm pretty sure that if I wanted which I don't I couldn't get an actual "husband" though; all the people that want that seem to be very uninterested in me in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/18 11:43 AM
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Media and social norms create all sorts of tastes—that's why they differ from culture to culture. I'm pretty sure this whole "sexual orientation" thing is also just created by media and culture because there were a lot of cultures where there clearly was no such thing. About any Roman male would love some male-male action but the idea was that there had to be a power difference; they were taught by their culture that if they were powerful they could only like non-powerful males and if they were …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/18 11:40 AM
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I mean it is the same thing in the sense that they can easily get fuckbuddies they're not attracted to. "females can get laid easily" is nonsense; "it is easy to procure sex from males" is the correct way to phrase it and males can do that to and then they answer "But I'm not attracted to males!" and then the female answers back "Well neither am I to all those males I can get sex from so what's the difference?"
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/18 11:25 AM
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Well, where do you draw the line? I think the majority of people would agree that a 69 year old who identifies as 49 and wants to change his age is not comparable to someone who is transgender. Well, that's the problem isn't it? It shows how acceptance for things like this is mostly due to random social arbitrariness and not actually due to the principle. Often the same man who will be like "ohh, accept the gays blablalba they're oppressed" will also be like "ewwll, objectophiles, that's totally…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/18 09:38 AM
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Well the problem is that age is registered and that people see the number before they see the man. This is the whole discussion with name registration; research found that it's significantly to one's detriment in many sectors to apply for a job with an Arabic-sounding name which they can all look up before the interview even starts. If age isn't registred and they don't know it or know a wrong number they at least have to judge the man on the man rather than on the number.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/18 09:22 AM
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I should add that this individual in general is perceived as somewhat of an attention seeking lunatic in the Netherlands who has weird publicity stunts now and then. Having said that this one has opened up the debate about age-based laws in general to some extent with some people feeling that age-based laws constitute a form of discrimination. It should be noted that this is at a time where the Netherlands is increasingly phasing out many legal categories: sex registration and birthplace registr…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/18 03:22 AM
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