pnromney Archive

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1	Telling men to "focus on themselves" when they are looking to meet women is bad advice I think there’s a good and bad side to this advice. The bad: Stop taking initiative. I don’t think this is generally helpful. An extremely lucky dice roll comes from rolling the dice lots of times. The good: Reduce your dependence on women. That’s really good advice. A more a woman is wanted but not needed, the more the relationship is a partnership and less a co-dependency.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/08/22 02:56 PM
2	Even women in their 30s and 40s, well past their prime have almost the same level of entitlement (sometimes even more) as younger women. This is further confirmation that women are completely delusional in their self assessment, far worse than men in this regard. So I’m not sure that your assessment of similar or increased entitlement is correct. If entitlement is a self-perpetuating attribute that keeps women more single, then you would expect that older women as a population to be far more entitled. Seeing a small increase in entitlement or similar levels of entitlement is indicative of self-awareness correcting entitlement. Further, younger women may know less of what they want versus older women, so younger women may experiment more than older women.…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/07/22 03:52 PM
0	Do more prudish/absitent societies have more "satisfying" sex lives? I mean my wife has a lot of friends, and she doesn’t seem to indicate that any of her friends aren’t satisfied, aged 25-45. (I mean women bring up their husbands want sex a lot more than they do (and occasionally the reverse), but I don’t think that is dissatisfaction.) I don’t know of any rigorous studies, but I would say most marriages seem overall satisfied with their marriages.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/04/22 04:25 PM
0	Do more prudish/absitent societies have more "satisfying" sex lives? Well, about being a good lover, I think mostly communication. Beyond that, it is often a topic discussed in pre-marriage and marriage counseling. There are also several books targeted at a Latter-Day Saint audience. Beyond that, I know several times people ask their peers for advice. And language about someone “deserving something” I think is only in one place place: kids deserve to be raised by your parents that love and care about them. Beyond that, no one is told they deserve anything. So oft…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/04/22 03:52 PM
0	Do more prudish/absitent societies have more "satisfying" sex lives? As a Mormon or member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, I don’t think sex is as discouraged as some ex-Mormons have said. There is some influence from purity culture from evangelicals, but that isn’t everyone, and I would be surprised if that’s the majority. (There can be a very loud minority, though.) Further, the whole “men’s rights over a woman’s body” is so false. Never have I ever heard that said by anyone at any church setting or anything like it. I have far more heard th…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/04/22 02:41 PM
2	What would you teach your children about the opposite sex? I would teach the following to both my son(s) and daughter(s): * Take care of all of your needs outside of dating. Don’t come to dating needing something. Come to dating wanting something. * A good partnership is where both people can be more together than apart. * Average people marry last. Know where you suck and where you contribute more than others. Communicate positively those strengths and weaknesses. * Maximize the number of potential matches you interact with. Know when the time you’ll m…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/22 01:01 AM
22	So what's the solution for men below the top 20% attractiveness who can't find a relationship? Average guys finish last. There was a certain card experiment that explains why. Give everyone a playing card. Place it on their forehead so they can’t see, but everyone else can. And tell people they need to match with the highest card they can find. (It ends up that everyone finds their match or near to it.) What happen to different tiers? Well, the highest cards match up pretty quickly because they go for the highest cards and get them. Also, the lowest cards match up pretty quickly because e…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/03/22 06:37 AM
2	High sexual market competition doesn't really benefit anyone. I think there are some oversimplification here. First off, I don’t think that the sexual market place is a one dimensional market for either men or women. There are some elements that are universal (women are physically attractive; men earn a high income), but there are also non-universal attributes that are selected for. For example, some women may favor intelligence over muscle; some may favor muscle. Further, polygamies have never been more popular than monogamies as far as I understand. Mono…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/02/22 11:55 PM
1	Is it fair to say that the evidence shows that women find it difficult to feel attraction for a man with less money than her? Women that want to stop working should favor men who make more than they do or at least try to. Further, women who want the option to quit should try for the same. If men prioritized being stay at home dads, some women may decide they’re better matches for the ambitious careers they want to have. My presumption is that more women than not that want to marry (not all women) plan to try to have the option to stay at home because it is the de facto responsibility for women in western culture. (I’m …	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/01/22 04:56 PM
3	Advice Mega-Thread You probably need some objective standards of what you're looking for, independent of this crush. I've seen people with no standards get stuck in a trap where they see their crush as perfect in every attribute, and this unique perfection eliminates the possibility of seeing other potential matches.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/08/21 11:01 PM
3	Why do men in trades cheat more? Depends on the area. Some places have a lot of work, but others don’t in comparison to the number of people. Plus, blue collar work is always more at risk of economic downturns.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/07/21 05:11 PM
2	Can we all agree that power games is fucking exhausting? Making decisions is very mentally exhausting, and dating is a game with limited answers to many questions. We create heuristic systems to simplify the decision making process. Paying for a girls date is a heuristic. Dressing nice is a heuristic. Holding the door is a heuristic. What’s changed is that in modern world, some groups have questioned these heuristics. I remember going to a singles event, and there was a Q&A section with discussion. At least half a dozen women shared differing opinions…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/02/21 01:17 AM
2	As a man you have the privilege of compensating with other attributes other than looks, and dating attractive women. While women can't really do the same. I don’t agree both from an evolutionary perspective and a experience perspective. While I have known many women who were very physically attractive and constantly going on dates, there is also a wide difference between average looking women. Some average looking women are serial daters, and some have hardly gone on a date. The main difference seems to be extraversion, kindness, and the ability to be vulnerable. Extroverted women go on more dates because they meet more men. A woman with the abili…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/02/21 04:19 PM
4	If you’re a woman who is threatened by TRP, you’re exactly why it exists in the first place. I think the problem with many online movements is that if you’re not the target audience of a movement, you interact with the worst parts of that movement. For example, I’ve met many people that espouse themselves as feminists, and they’re very respectful to men and women. I’ve also met feminists who attacked me for being a male when I said that men and women are different by nature. I think there are plenty of bad examples of TRP when the majority may be relatively emotionally healthy. Plus, th…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/02/21 04:22 PM
1	Is Enforced Monogamy SEXUALLY fair to both genders? I think in terms of pleasure, it is hard to determine. Women are more emotionally involved in sexual activity, and many women prefer more romance. I think it is hard to determine because I don’t know how many women are on certain sides of the spectrum of what brings them pleasure.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/02/21 05:23 PM
5	Is Enforced Monogamy SEXUALLY fair to both genders? I’m not convinced that all women, in evolutionary terms, are hypergamous. In Europe and most other cultures, there was generational enforcement of monogamy; being monogamous as a woman might have guaranteed financial resources in an evolutionary sense. Many woman may just want monogamy by nature because that was what was selected for. Second point, the great compromise relates to other factors as well besides sexual. Violence in men seems to decrease when men are married. If that’s the case, wom…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/02/21 02:43 PM
1	Kindness, and Respect are not sexually attractive to women Of course less kindness is to be expected after rejection. But what I’m talking about yelling, verbal attacks, and just plain unbridled anger. It’s the kind of attitude where “I was nice, and I didn’t get what I deserved.” So entitlement.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/01/21 08:22 PM
0	Kindness, and Respect are not sexually attractive to women I see and hear of a lot of men that are nice until they get rejected. Thus, they weren’t actually kind; they just pretended to be nice. They lacked integrity in their kindness.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/01/21 07:21 PM
1	The Sexual Revolution was beneficial for Men I think some level of promiscuity has had a lot of benefits for women as well. I think the benefits for women may be higher. Here is my reasoning: A highly promiscuous, disagreeable man is less likely to commit rape if he can have sex without commitment. I come from a university that is typical of the US: sleeping around, casual sex, etc. for the minority of the student population. There are rapes, but most of them are about things escalating too fast. There is also a very Christian University n…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/01/21 05:28 PM
1	Kindness, and Respect are not sexually attractive to women I’ve lived multiple places around the US. Some places there are a lot of tools. Masculine traits of strength and power are emphasized, so men act like tools. Other places kindness is emphasized. Then you get a lot of nice guys, who put a facade of kindness, but really they’re wolves in sheep’s clothing. This was a culture shock for me. I am genuinely a kind person; I hardly see any reason to be mean most of the time. I figure life is just better if people are kind. Yeah, turns out other losers a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/01/21 05:10 PM
3	"Women are more mature" as a trope can mostly be explained by different experiences during puberty? As far as emotional maturity goes, which is often what I hear when this is discussed, I think it is a very difficult comparison because men and women have very different emotional experiences. For example, girls will experience more gossip, more body shaming, and more intense body changes. Boys, on the other hand, will experience high sex drives they need to control, increased aggression, and other emotional changes. The end of maturing would come when they’ve mastered these challenges. And as f…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/21 12:49 AM
-1	What are the causes and consequences of the growing number of men who are not participating in society? Sorry to disappoint, but I’m a man.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/12/20 12:56 AM
1	What are the causes and consequences of the growing number of men who are not participating in society? Men are valued by women based on their future resources that they can bring to a family. A man studying medicine in college is more attractive that a man studying art. They haven’t really done anything, but in a hyper traditional sense, that’s how they’re judged.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/12/20 09:07 PM
0	What are the causes and consequences of the growing number of men who are not participating in society? Men are not valued economically, socially nor are they valued if we look at "entitlements" because in all of those cases the only way a man gets something is if he does something first and the result of that action provides benefit to others. Are women any different? Human beings in general are valued by what they do, not what they are. Women in a hyper-traditional sense are valued because of their reproductive capacity; they're valued because they can risk their lives by making babies. In essen…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/12/20 08:55 PM
-1	What are the causes and consequences of the growing number of men who are not participating in society? Work mortality is a lot lower than it used to be. I think it is also that OSHA or similar institutions have institute safety guidelines based on a measured approach. It's not just technological improvement although a large majority of the work force turning into office work has certainly helped. Men have more ways to relax and have a good time than ever before. I guess but most forms of entertainment have become subscription based payment. For example I pay subscription to watch boxing but it co…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/12/20 08:42 PM
0	What are the causes and consequences of the growing number of men who are not participating in society? So... men are not valued. Masculine traits are valued. And lets be honest, unless those traits are put to use and produce good results/benefits those traits are not valued either. It's very hard to measure what it means to be "valued." One is economically, and there we find that men's actions and the attributes that lead to those actions are more important. Another way to measure is socially through social hierarchy, but that is often lacking because not all people aspire to be at the top of hie…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/12/20 08:29 PM
2	What are the causes and consequences of the growing number of men who are not participating in society? I agree that access is important. But I don’t think that is the total issue. Construction falls under all of those things, but we have a deficit of plumbers, electricians, and so on. Not only do we need access, but we also need to value dirty work more. We value office knowledge work more than manual work even though there wouldn’t be knowledge work without manual work.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/12/20 08:04 PM
1	What are the causes and consequences of the growing number of men who are not participating in society? Parts of society that value men: Anywhere where you see majority men in that group, chances are that masculine traits are valued there. That’s just basic economics. It’s not even necessarily sexism. Manual labor jobs are majority men, likely because men are stronger in general than women. The argument that men’s actions are valued, not men, is a bad argument. It is a man that gains skills, makes decisions, and does the work for men’s actions to make a difference; you cannot have their actions wi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/12/20 07:50 PM
-1	What are the causes and consequences of the growing number of men who are not participating in society? If I may be so bold, it seems like a lot of those things are just looking at what isn’t going right in society. In other words, it seems like you’re saying men aren’t ambitious because they’re pessimistic. I can think of a lot of reasons to be optimistic: There is a very low rate of war, and work mortality is a lot lower than it used to be. Men have more access to women than ever before through online dating. Men have more ways to relax and have a good time than ever before. Men’s jobs are less …	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/12/20 07:34 PM
2	What are the causes and consequences of the growing number of men who are not participating in society? See, I don’t think a lot of these are mutually exclusive. Men form a lot of relationships at work. Working hard gives you a sense of accomplishment and can cascade to other parts of your life. I think we should cut out meaningless work, for sure. But work can have major positive impacts socially, physically, and of course financially.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/12/20 07:26 PM
1	What are the causes and consequences of the growing number of men who are not participating in society? I don’t think that men will become obsolete. That’s a pretty large stretch. Many parts of society value men, and as good men become more scarce, positive masculine traits will be valued more, and some men will fill those spots. Technology may replace certain aspects of man’s labor, but technology (even AI) is incredible hyper-specialized. Humans succeed because we’re not like horses; we are generalists.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/12/20 07:16 PM
29	What are the causes and consequences of the growing number of men who are not participating in society? I think it’s the collapse of several things. In general, I would describe the situation as a lack of ambition. Here are my view of the causes: * Destruction of the male social circle and fatherhood. Because men have different emotional experiences than women because of testosterone, after puberty, men really need other men to help figure out their own emotions. Less and less father involvement through looser family structures has hurt emotional maturity, and many men aren’t socially outgoing eno…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/12/20 07:09 PM
1	CMV; Redpill philosophy is based on pseudo science and has no empirically sound basis. If a society wanted to maximize the benefits to individuals, red pill doesn’t make sense. If a society is trying to maximize the benefits to children, red pill makes sense. People seem to have the capabilities and biases that can go towards both, and for all we know people may change depending on the context of the situation. Thus, we can gain confirmation towards either or. It follows from maximizing the benefit for children, women start as caretakers because of pregnancy and breast feeding. Me…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/11/20 07:21 PM
1	Is it wrong/weird for inexperienced men/women to intentionally date down to find a partner “on their level” I think it happens a lot for 30 year olds to date 18 year olds because the 30 year old can’t get people their age to date them, and I don’t think that it is the best. While there are some exceptions, I’ve seen unhealthy relationship tendencies, like daddy or mommy issues in these relationships. However, when I started seeking a partner, I asked everyone on dates, and I had some great dates and terrible dates. Some people are crazy, and some people I discovered would never be interested in me. Th…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/11/20 04:06 PM
2	Do you feel any duty towards women, or towards children? I honestly feel like I have a duty to women and children, and I always have. I have learned that some women find it disrespectful, and some women (sometimes even family) will take advantage to it. Honestly, I think it is easier to act out of duty than it is to make decisions any other way. For example, I don’t have to ask, “Should I be nice to this person?” I can just ask, “What is my duty?” I’ve seen some women become manipulative because of this sense of duty. They may see it if I’m not doing …	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/11/20 03:46 PM