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Discussionpolysyllabist/r/MensRights10/03/15 09:51 PM
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For all the talk of "fake news", this sort of reporting is what really troubles me. The media has not lied, but by manipulating what they do and do not report, a reasonable viewer without other information would be lead to believe something that is not true, just as if they had been lied to. And the pattern shows that to be exactly the intent of the media.
/r/PussyPassDenied18/04/17 01:50 PM
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It's a rhetorical device. It's not in support of those. By making the reader recognize those cherished rights they have above men, it makes arguing in favor of men being brought up to that level easier. A form of reverse psychology.
/r/MensRights19/02/17 10:34 PM
3

I'm trying really hard to ask myself what typically female store a computer would make sense being sold from.
/r/MensRights28/12/16 07:48 PM
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The point is to illustrate how men aren't even on the radar.
/r/MensRights20/11/16 02:04 AM
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DMHS: is one of the most egregious forms of gender policing, and to put it in perspective, imagine if it was used for women and not men. It strips agency, choice and standards.
/r/MensRights28/04/15 07:07 PM
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This was at least 17 years ago. It wasn't quite as common place then.
/r/MensRights27/04/15 05:12 PM
1

Sure it's possible. But we're all tired of hearing everyone make the presumption of innocence for a person if they don't have a penis and presume villainy if they do. Jumping to the conclusion that always involves shifting responsibility away from women, aside from being sexist against men, is insulting to the notion that women are equally capable creatures as men.
/r/MensRights27/04/15 06:34 AM
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Turns out our basic programming is legitimately sexist.
/r/TheRedPill20/04/15 08:38 PM
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45% men /55% women for those who want a TLDR (232k vs 278k)
/r/MensRights20/04/15 06:54 AM
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It would be great if you could switch up the order of male / female text. Currently male text is on top, while the female graphic portion of the circle is on top. That juxtaposition makes assessing thing difficult at a glance. Also, would be nice if you had the good things (like child custody and graduation) on one side, and bad things (like deaths) on the other. That way at a quick glance you can note the advantage one gender has, and the burden the other has.
/r/MensRights20/04/15 06:46 AM
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The thing I don't get is that if what she says is true, and that she really is on the side of many men's right's issues, then what the hell is she doing trying to stop a mr event? Why do these issues only have to be discussed and moderated through a feminist organization? "We're working on it" Great, so are MRAs, so why are you trying to stop them then??
/r/MensRights18/04/15 05:43 AM
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Feminists and mras are constantly fighting against the end of the bell curve examples that hide under the umbrella label that they adopt to make their shit opinions seem to carry greater value. The majority of feminists would never defend that woman, however, an mr movement is necessary to shine light on examples of institutional patriarchy working against them such as in this example.
/r/MensRights16/04/15 08:55 AM
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Men talk more about their feelings now than they did in the 50s, but since then the gender-suicide-gap has trebled in size. People seem to think 'Men kill themselves because they can't open up' Hard truths now. Men kill themselves at three times the rate than in the 50's because men buy into the idea of opening up, and discover that no one listens. It's the cruelest bait and switch. "We won't think less of you for opening up" and then they do.
/r/MensRights14/04/15 02:38 AM
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31 years of life have taught me that no one wants to help me. They want me to get better. They want someone else to help and fix me. They want it all to be over, because I do matter to them, but no one actually wants to help me. Not the way I need to be helped. Because acknowledging a guy who is broken is ... icky. Men can't be broken. The very idea of it is repulsive and no one can stand it and they desperately want it to go away. And when everyone thinks that the magical "someone else" is the …
/r/MensRights14/04/15 02:31 AM
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Equal opportunity vs equal results.
/r/MensRights07/04/15 05:33 AM
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[Citation Desperately Needed] I mean seriously, send her the CDC NISVS, it's for the US, but sheesh. Equal numbers of men being forced to penetrate as women who are raped. Maybe she only means that 99% of people who have their drinks drugged in bars are women... ...But sharing private photos and getting touchy in a professional setting? Women are 99% the victim in those cases? No way.
/r/MensRights02/04/15 01:59 AM
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Really? That's fascinating. I'd love for you to post links to some of what you found sometime.
/r/MensRights02/04/15 12:58 AM
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Yeah, but not all men work those jobs, not all women are pregnant. This is not how you do this.
/r/MensRights02/04/15 12:14 AM
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Nope
/r/MensRights30/03/15 09:16 PM
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I was describing the woman's thought process
/r/MensRights30/03/15 09:07 PM
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Either she made up 65 minutes of lies, or I have to reexamine my worldview... Sorry but I rather enjoy the narrative I presume to live under.
/r/MensRights30/03/15 08:42 PM
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In that context, you could more accurate say that men's rights is advocating for gaps in equality that effect men. I wouldn't say it isn't about equality simply because it's specific focus is not wholly inclusive.
/r/MensRights30/03/15 01:39 AM
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She dated a coworker with no authority over her if I recall correctly, but the terrible at her job part is accurate by all accounts (save hers).
/r/MensRights28/03/15 03:30 AM
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"I don't kiss on a first date. I'm not that kind of girl." People like to set arbitrary rules as protection and as easy outs, so long as they are free to break them themselves at any moment. If you have trouble articulating your thoughts and feelings, experience has taught you that ending a bad date by "I told you I don't kiss on the first date" is easier than trying to end it by formulating your various desires in a coherent fashion. It's one of those white lies people assume is fine because it…
/r/TheRedPill26/03/15 03:21 AM
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Anyone can check and see I actually had a +35 positive comment score in /r/feminism before I was banned, presumably because of my posting histories. I say presumably, because the mods never replied to my query for an explanation. A couple comments in a couple threads one afternoon then bam, you're banned. Which is absurd, because I call this sub out for it's shit posts all the time when they pop up and I'm still around.
/r/TheRedPill24/03/15 10:17 PM
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True upset students when he said that it was understandable that the Holocaust happened given that people are not often taught to question systems of oppression How is that upsetting? He's attempting to explain why German civilians could stand by and let the holocaust happen by examining how a population reacts to systems of oppression. But the turning point was when he refused to stop discussing his beliefs on rape, even though sexual assault survivors told him outside of class that it made the…
/r/MensRights20/03/15 08:47 AM
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You honestly believe that your limited personal experience is applicable the whole world over, even when someone is telling you that their experience differs considerably? That's some grade a cognitive dissonance right there. I'm glad you're here, stick around.
/r/TheRedPill17/03/15 09:11 AM
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That's extremist hyperbole. "Feelings" aren't going to make a woman believe she's a virgin after six different dicks. And no, this is not a case of awalt. All women are beholden to feelings and it makes them act outside the bound of a rationality even they have demonstrated previous, but it doesn't follow that all women lie about being virgins. Moreover, not all women who have had sex with three guys are the same. 60% aren't going to divorce by your figures. TRP isn't about despair at those numb…
/r/TheRedPill15/03/15 08:06 PM
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Wow, not a fact. I feel sorry for wherever you live. Let us know so we can avoid it.
/r/TheRedPill15/03/15 10:07 AM
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Okie dokie then. Happy to be wrong!
/r/TheRedPill14/03/15 08:39 PM
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Exactly that. I think we were all like you. With money, with women, or with etc. The presumption that others share your perspectives or values is a deathly trap.
/r/TheRedPill14/03/15 08:30 PM
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This has not be my experience, and I take exception to the voting behaviors of those who have backed the anecdote they prefer. Moreover, I take exception to you framing your experience as being universal rather than an n of one and I find nothing you've written to be supported by anything but your own perceptions, experienced or imagined. You've done nothing but take studies and twist them to fit your preferences. This sort of delusional justification had no business in this sub in my opinion.
/r/TheRedPill14/03/15 08:26 PM
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It's how everything should be focused. Don't have affirmative action for black people for example. Have affirmative action for the economically disadvantaged instead. Do you know who that will primarily service? Minorities. And thankfully so. But the poor white kid growing up in the ghetto won't be left behind either. It's economics that keep people down, not the color of their skin. It just so happens that for very real reasons (ie history) a disproportionate number of people with a certain col…
/r/MensRights14/03/15 07:49 PM
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Are you being a pessimistic skeptic for its own sake? Listen, women aren't lying 24/7 about everything always. They are human beings. They just have slightly different biochemical directives than you. It is important that you're on the lookout for those moments of deception, in women as well as in men, but don't follow it down a road of inherent suspicion; you'll be wrong more often than right. And the point of TRP is to cast off comfortable delusions to find what's right more often than not. Wo…
/r/TheRedPill14/03/15 07:19 PM
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Play the game based on the rules that are, rather than the rules that ought to be and get mad and sad when things don't turn out as they "should". Women are great! People are great! You just have to be careful not to act as if the rest of the world operates under the same delusions you've chosen to operate under.
/r/TheRedPill14/03/15 07:08 PM
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Anecdotally, it's always been the bigger girls who are better at sex. They have to work at it and earn it as a recurring thing while the fit girls just take it for granted.
/r/TheRedPill14/03/15 06:43 PM
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Hard not to become Scott. Hard not to cry yourself to sleep. Men have feelings too. And we don't control women. If your lady is going to do this, she's going to do this, and it will kill you, and there's no shame in breaking down over it. But knowing the rules to the game at they are, what drives stir inside women, the unique biochemistry that sets forth their priorities, you can make decisions to avoid this outcome.
/r/TheRedPill14/03/15 06:16 PM
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No. That's sexist and racist too. Rather, start a scholarship for people who are underserved in the scholarship field. Entrants should list the scholarships for which they do not qualify. Among those with the least availability, those with the most merit and most need will be selected.
/r/MensRights14/03/15 05:24 PM
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I've dated two women who were virgins older than 26. Both absolutely beautiful and both would eventually decided to add sex to the table in our relationship. But both had no experience in relationships, which was a major problem. One of them was a fantastic human being so it didn't matter... ... but my point is that neither extreme of sexusl activity is particularly ideal. Look for some sort of balance that works for you in between.
/r/TheRedPill14/03/15 04:12 PM
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Captain and first mate. Not captain and passenger on a jamaican cruise. If you don't like the view and are arguing for a new course, you might be passenger. If you're looking to see what you can do to make sure the plotted course brings your cargo to port, you're probably a first mate.
/r/RedPillWomen13/03/15 06:14 PM
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He spent 8 months in jail without a conviction??
/r/MensRights11/03/15 06:35 AM
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The movement has some very serious grievances that don't seem to get the attention they warrant ... we all seem confident in who is to blame ... and this video shed some light on that for me.
/r/MensRights10/03/15 09:56 PM
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Convicted without one in this day and age?
/r/MensRights10/03/15 06:48 PM
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Where are all the real men?
/r/TheRedPill10/03/15 04:18 PM
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Don't worry, most of the m&m's will not poison you.
/r/MensRights09/03/15 11:45 PM
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Pretty sure you need to do yours
/r/MensRights08/03/15 09:01 PM
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I award him no points, and may god have mercy on his soul.
/r/MensRights08/03/15 08:30 PM
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Usually they aren't so open about the discrimination. Usually they just take the applications and hire based on whims. The fact that they think they can be completely open with it is revealing about how complacent the industry has gotten with this sort of discrimination.
/r/MensRights08/03/15 08:28 PM
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He's having the discussion he wants instead of the discussion this article actually presents.
/r/MensRights08/03/15 08:13 PM
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I would normally grab a snippet or two to quote as a means to start a specific conversation, but the whole damn account is littered with disgusting entitlement.
/r/MensRights08/03/15 05:14 PM
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Women are told they can be victims, so they are aware and ready to confront those situations. Men aren't told we can be victims, we're only ever told we are the aggressors. We aren't prepared for the reverse. Those guys saw it and couldn't process the situation. That lack of process > action is the whole reason we have these campaigns for women in the first place; so people do the processing now, and in the moment can act. Moreover, guys are told our entire lives that no one is out to help you, …
/r/MensRights07/03/15 05:39 PM
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No. I'm taking issue with the absolutivity of the statement. That in order to be x, you must adhere to y. It's a shaming tactic to make people conform to a particular perspective and eliminate dissenting perspectives by removing room for discourse.
/r/MensRights06/03/15 06:40 PM
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Do you seriously feel that what you wrote suddenly isn't shaming if it is altered to apply to more people?
/r/MensRights06/03/15 06:01 PM
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The gender is irrelevant. You're still suggesting that a person cannot simultaneously be confident while holding that position. You need to substantiate and remove the absolutivity in your language.
/r/MensRights06/03/15 05:28 PM
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Please don't derail this into semantics. You're implying that a position someone might hold is inconsistent with being a 'truly confident man' which I hope you can look back at retrospectively and recognize as flagrant shaming language.
/r/MensRights06/03/15 05:20 PM
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A truly confident man can accept that a person's past may not define them And now you're shaming. A 'truly confident man' can absolutely be of the opinion that a person's history does shape who they are today.
/r/MensRights06/03/15 04:48 PM
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Your brand of feminism should not be seen as the exception. I don't care what we call it, if we can just help the people who need it. I have no advice to offer, and don't personally know where or how to begin myself. I wish I did. There haven't been any successful examples to emulate that I'm aware of. In fact, all I know of the issue is the failures, such as yours, to acquire the sympathy and resources to push this forward. Please keep us up to date with your efforts, any successes would provid…
/r/MensRights27/02/15 12:13 AM
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Men lie too. The take home message is that humans are human, women aren't "special", and that just because you think your significant other is different, you might very well be wrong. So don't take it for granted.
/r/TheRedPill25/02/15 08:17 PM
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His hypothetical isn't invalid, it simply doesn't apply in this case, because as you point out, they were conscious and she was not.
/r/MensRights15/02/15 05:33 AM
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And it seems from accounts like they both did. But there's a lot if unnecessary shame associated with sex. If after the fact people around you convince you it's a bad thing people tend to internalize narratives that magically absolve them of responsibility for their "negative" experience. Which is a shame, because I bet without the inescapable negativity surrounding sex, hookup culture, and normal biological urges, both of them would have thought very fondly of their otherwise perfectly consensu…
/r/MensRights13/02/15 04:42 AM
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It's satire. The juxtaposition of the two labels while using identical arguments is supposed to illustrate the ridiculousness of the arguments, not lobby for the label.
/r/MensRights07/02/15 08:02 PM
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Look. We know it's not fair. Life isn't always fair. It's his wallet, only he gets to say what happens to it.
/r/MensRights07/02/15 07:59 PM
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This is some Grade-A pastafarianism right here.
/r/MensRights07/02/15 07:54 PM
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I have to go to work, so I'll be brief. Like you, I bought the narrative I was sold. One side said A, the other said B, and I figured A was probably right because why wouldn't it? Then one day I decided, you know what, let me actually examine the numbers myself. The following is a brief synopsis of what I found, that then completely shifted my perspective. The 2010 CDC's National Intimate Partner and Sexual Violence Survey Links to a pdf that was thrown around constantly. It's where the "1 in 4 …
/r/MensRights06/02/15 11:31 PM
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Agreed. The sentiment and the aesthetics.
/r/RedPillWomen01/02/15 05:06 AM
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The vitriol makes it unwatchable. I was hoping for a dispassionate comparison of different models and a series of examples in how it plays out.
/r/MensRights31/01/15 08:50 PM
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Not sure what this is doing in this sub, but I'm glad I saw it.
/r/MensRights31/01/15 08:21 PM
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Maybe it is pussy pass, but I don't believe the correction should be in punishing her more given the context, but in being more compassionate to men that would likely have been tried worse in a similar position. Sympathy and lenience isn't bad. It's something both genders should know in equal abundance.
/r/MensRights28/01/15 06:06 AM
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I find it interesting that affirmative action isn't a privilege, but not benefiting from affirmative action is.
/r/MensRights27/01/15 12:17 AM
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If apologists are getting upvoted, either you're doing a shitty job of making a counter point, or maybe they have a valid point. I don't have sympathy for dogma or comfortable delusions on either side. The solution isn't to squelch opposing voices, that's /r/feminism bullshit. The solution is to make a better case.
/r/TheRedPill26/01/15 06:01 AM
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Dude, yes we do. This isn't /r/feminism. I want to hear every single dissenting perspective. Dogma isn't the road to truth, discourse is. edit: spelling
/r/TheRedPill25/01/15 09:33 PM
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Yes I can, for the reasons I just stated. What are you, simple? Do I need to draw you a friggin' venn diagram?
/r/MensRights24/01/15 05:34 AM
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Granted not all feminists are like that. And I don't mean that sarcastically. But when every encounter you have with a feminism forum or organized event leaves you feeling unwanted and unrepresented it ought to be clear why a separate movement is necessary.
/r/MensRights24/01/15 05:18 AM
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I only got one post in. Also super civilized because I heard how ban happy they were and was determined not to be just another statistic. I even sent a message to the mods asking why they banned me, but never received any acknowledgment. The other day I made a throwaway to comment and got two posts in, one got buried because it was a day old thread, the other was upvoted. Banned anyways. I really just don't understand.
/r/MensRights24/01/15 05:13 AM
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It feels shitty. You read something and want desperately to contribute to the discussion but you're not allowed. Because the last time you posted you had the audacity to hold a contrary position. Anyways, I just went to post it to /r/meta_feminism as that's where you're supposed to go to actually discuss feminism ... and see if they thought the article was appropriate for the main sub, but it turns out that when I was banned from /r/feminism the mods banned me from every single associated sub as…
/r/MensRights24/01/15 04:37 AM
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Exactly this.
/r/MensRights24/01/15 04:19 AM
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I dare you to post it to /r/feminism and ask for support in raising awareness for this gender inequality affecting men due to lingering issues with the patriarchy and see if the responses are supportive of addressing this issue head on, or if they'll just talk about how this will all go away eventually on it's own if we just keep fighting issues that directly affect women. Or you can get banned. But either way. I dare you.
/r/MensRights24/01/15 04:13 AM
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I hear this is very high on the feminist agenda. They are preparing to fight tooth and nail against these practices any day now. Any day now. Which is why we should all hop on board feminism and definitely not simultaneously participate in any other equality movements of any form ever.
/r/MensRights24/01/15 03:59 AM
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Please stop trying to make this a binary issue. Men are against this and feminists are for this. Just because feminists tend to lean left doesn't make this a leftist issue. This is a gender issue and crosses political lines.
/r/MensRights24/01/15 03:56 AM
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the male student saying he wasn't allowed to use communications between the two as evidence. The hell?? Why in god's name not?
/r/MensRights23/01/15 04:15 AM
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I consider that like judging a book by it's cover. If he's a good guy, and they clearly care a lot about each other, and they're going to church together the next day, and he's got a great future, and he could live on his own but is choosing to live with his parents to better pay off student debt, then yeah sure, absolutely I'm fine with that. Oh no! 7 year difference! The humanity! 10/10 great book, shitty cover but would read again.
/r/RedPillWomen23/01/15 01:39 AM
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I’m far more inclined to respect their opinion and their ability to judge a person than yours. Typically I might as well. But when their judgement includes likely racism and huge sex negative stuff, they begin to loose their credibility as good judges of character.
/r/RedPillWomen23/01/15 12:57 AM
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My god. I can count on one hand the number of women I've worked with where any of these points apply. Sorry your experiences/locale suck. But this is largely a case of NAWALT. These are simply not issues. For all the meaningful stuff that gets posted here, there sure is some eye rollingly absurd generalizations too.
/r/TheRedPill15/01/15 02:01 AM
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That's a beautiful break down. I never saw this before.
/r/MensRights11/01/15 12:10 AM
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My god, she ruined a consensual relationship between two adults that didn't conform to her personal morality, ruined the lives of over a dozen people working in that lab, their education, livelihoods and future, set back their research... But hey, that PI isn't no longer has a conflict of interest so job well done. Sheesh.
/r/TheRedPill01/01/15 11:50 PM
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If it works, it's on to something. If it doesn't work, it doesn't matter how nice it sounds on paper or how comforting it would be if true, it's not. And RP philosophies as op said are not dogma and not immune to scrutiny or dissent.
/r/TheRedPill01/01/15 11:05 PM
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I would like to believe there are more pertinent things to fight than the absolute crazy extreme reaches of the feminist bell curve.
/r/MensRights30/12/14 09:37 PM
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I'll keep that in mind
/r/MensRights19/12/14 06:51 PM
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Women are what they are because men allow it. And men are what they are because women reward it. It's all a cycle
/r/TheRedPill17/12/14 12:16 AM
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Out of curiosity, as an aside, were the girls not targeted or were girls not welcome at the school? Edit: Apparently the school is for both girls and boys. So, I guess given the numbers involved it had to be intentional.
/r/MensRights16/12/14 10:56 PM
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It's not pussy pass, it's juvenile pass. It lasts until you approach 18 and thirteen definitely receives it. Would you be this critical of a thirteen year old boy who lied/misremembered out of fear and confusion after a night of drinking? I imagine not.
/r/TheRedPill30/11/14 12:54 PM
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Can you imagine what kind of upbringing you'd need to have to be so afraid and confused about your own natural sexuality that you would view lying, or in her case likely just misremembering (they were drinking, recall) as the better off two alternatives? This is her parents and her communities fault.
/r/TheRedPill30/11/14 12:50 PM
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Dude, I'm not giving her a pass because of her gender, I'm doing so because of her age. Do you not remember the ridiculous things you believed or did in eighth grade? I do. I thought I understood it all, but boy did I not. Especially when it came to sexuality. I didn't fully appreciate consequence nor had I fully develop a capacity for empathy. Now, I wasn't raised to view sex and my virginity as a reflection as my worth as a human being, but had I, I could easily have let my confusing lead to a…
/r/TheRedPill30/11/14 12:45 PM
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She was 13, and likely the victim of family that told her that if she has sex she's a terrible horrible person. She's 13, woke up after a night of drinking and framed things in her juvenile mind in the only way that allowed her to not hate herself. I feel for the dude, but I don't think this is a case of willful maliciousness, but one of fear and confusion. Don't hate this 13 year old girl, hate her family and community that raised her that way.
/r/TheRedPill30/11/14 01:52 AM
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DM:HS I hate this so much. Imagine applying that to women to see just how disgusting it is then realize how pervasive or is and how acceptable or is when drilled into make culture.
/r/MensRights28/11/14 06:06 PM
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Uh, how about researchers not being utter idiots?
/r/MensRights28/11/14 02:47 AM
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I'll look into this, but I strongly believe you are misinterpreting the question. Because your interpretation makes absolutely zero sense. Can you please consider that possibility?
/r/MensRights28/11/14 02:21 AM
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There is a difference between drunk, and drunk to the point of being unable to consent. That 'and' applies to all circumstances.
/r/MensRights28/11/14 02:03 AM
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and unable to consent is the critical part you're not appreciating in the first example. Kissed when you didn't want to and pressuring for sex don't contribute to the rape numbers but the "other sexual violence" category. And rightfully so! Those aren't rape, but neither are they good things and it deserves to be investigated. Which they did. This study is fine and doesn't deserve the hate casual observation with defined predispositions elect to find.
/r/MensRights28/11/14 01:35 AM
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Dude, you weren't assaulted or battered, you experienced "other forms of violence".
/r/MensRights28/11/14 01:30 AM
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Incoming disillusioned future angry trp rant from other op.
/r/TheRedPill27/11/14 11:52 PM
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A valid premise with a flawed conclusion. That we are different does not mean that we should shoe horn into roles or deny access to others. Equality in opportunity sorts out any inherent inequalities. Let people become what they will.
/r/TheRedPill25/11/14 06:12 AM
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You can be both. Consider feminism a subsidiary of the greater "don't be a jerk" movement.
/r/MensRights24/11/14 11:29 AM
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I can't get passed the unapologetic generalizatons that cascade one after another in that first paragraph There are lots of things that men do that are crazy, like insist on trying to impress people by regurgitating lines from Adam Sandler movies and investing scores of time in that imaginary monstrosity that is fantasy football. But there is no worse, man-centric behavior than manspreading on the subway. Seriously guys, it has got to stop.
/r/MensRights22/11/14 05:12 AM
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No, this is a way to quash dissenting viewpoints by labeling anything conflicting with a particular dogma as "not red pill, don't post" and that is NOT something I want to start seeing.
/r/TheRedPill16/11/14 05:09 PM
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Bullshit. What a veiled way to say, "don't post if you ever disagree with me ever" What is this /r/feminism??
/r/TheRedPill16/11/14 09:03 AM
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I agree with you, but feminist outliers have the ability to direct policy and effect change, like this scientist breaking down, crying, and having to apologize. MR outliers just scream and nothing (rightfully) comes of it.
/r/MensRights16/11/14 07:38 AM
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Well sex with a minor is still a crime, regardless of what term you label it with. I'm all for expanding vocabulary to differentiate nuance however, so have an up vote.
/r/MensRights13/11/14 10:35 PM
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I remain of the opinion that how we treat women is fine, and that we should whenever possible extend existing kindnesses to men; not extend the harsher realities to women.
/r/MensRights13/11/14 10:33 PM
2

/s Isn't that what we were doing here?
/r/MensRights07/11/14 03:07 AM
1

And not simply because people are not mind readers. You elected to ignore the qualifier on my second sentence, nice job. Then you threw a veiled ad hominem at me, how lovely. I'm sorry not everyone agrees with you.
/r/MensRights06/11/14 10:59 PM
1

You're walking, staring straight ahead, deliberately neutral expression, not looking at anyone and you pass a group of people staring at you. You dont meet their gaze because you dont want to engage them in anyway, they call out at you assertively anyway. I do not consider that particular example harassment. And not simply because people are not mind readers.
/r/MensRights06/11/14 10:50 PM
1

I don't think you're taking accusations seriously enough. Chances are that they are guilty, so why not just treat them that way from the beginning? You do realize that you're probably defending an actual rapist don't you?
/r/MensRights06/11/14 10:40 PM
2

Whether I'm comfortable with it or not is irrelevant. The question is whether a single compliment, acknowledgement of your existence, or even someone approaching you and asking you out, is harassment. And no it is not. I find it obnoxious when people smoke in public. That doesn't make it harassment. I'm uncomfortable when people ask me to sign their petitions when I walk passed them, that doesn't make a single request harassment. And if every 30 seconds some random dude gave me a compliment whil…
/r/MensRights06/11/14 08:23 PM
1

I'm talking about what's in the image.
/r/MensRights06/11/14 06:13 PM
1

If both meet your criteria to be called 'harassment' then I don't think the word harassment is really a problem. We'll have to find a new word for unacceptable behavior now, because saying hello and taking a photo of someone in public, regardless of gender, just doesn't cut it for me.
/r/MensRights06/11/14 05:45 PM
1

The desire to take eyes in return for knives dangled over our own is misguided considering how adamant we are in keeping our own sight.
/r/MensRights06/11/14 05:40 PM
7

Or neither are.
/r/MensRights06/11/14 11:37 AM
16

advice is that you should know a guy for at least 6 months before you have sex with him. I'd like to add my two cents worth, a date I just got back from. First date was very uninhibited, talking, kissing, rolling around in the grass. Good times. I want to meet this girl again. Second date, super closed off. Did not respond to my attempt to kiss her on a hike after a couple hours of great conversation. Third date? Yeah right. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy the conversation, but I also enjoy conversa…
/r/RedPillWomen05/11/14 03:50 AM
0

So if this happens to a man, you're angry? And if it happens to a girl, you're happy?
/r/TheRedPill03/11/14 09:00 PM
1

But how you've elected to react to this is absurd. Women are going to take note of this. And instead of championing them with the same vigor and joining strength, get them to reevaluate our position, you just want to double down and martyr this person for it. You know what would also mobilize more people to get involved? If this happened even more frequently with men. But I don't hear you calling out positively when men are in this situation; even though it helps to spread awareness in the same …
/r/TheRedPill03/11/14 08:59 PM
0

Alimony changes but you still have no friends for rape. Rape eventually changes but you have no friends to fight with you for custody, for selective service, for ____ Because you're intent on making this a fight against people instead of a fight against policy. The moment you and an enemy AGREE on a policy to fight, instead of reaching out to them you rub it in their faces? That's a damn shame. Imagine how much easier the next struggle would be if women fought side by side TRP in this one and th…
/r/TheRedPill03/11/14 08:46 PM
0

It's sexist because if you reverse the genders you'd be singing the opposite tune. What if it was the girl with the boyfriend, revoking consent after the fact to save face and threatening the guy with rape charges, saying he took advantage of her. You'd be throwing a fit. I know this, because the exact scenario reversed is posted in here all the time and everyone leaps to defense of the guy. If the gender of the players alters how you react, it's sexist. Which moral code am I using? Common fucki…
/r/TheRedPill03/11/14 07:57 PM
-4

Then you're just as bad as those idiot assholes. That means you're my enemy too. I'm not going to fight for equality by throwing anyone under the bus, and I'll fight anyone who is in favor of injustice, regardless of the gender it targets. You want to levy a rape charge, a legitimate rape charge. Fine. But don't throw BS at women to dismantle the BS men fight. DEFEND the BS thrown at women then demand they do likewise and defend the equivalent BS thrown at men. We don't need feminist ideologues …
/r/TheRedPill03/11/14 07:51 AM
-3

I absolutely disagree. Don't throw that woman under the bus with a false accusation. STAND UP FOR HER, and the next time there's a bullshit accusation where a man is falsely labeled, she and everyone who bore witness to /r/TRP of all places advocating in her favor will stand next to us. Stop trying to make this and us vs them that has to be won. When the world gives you middle ground fucking take it. TRP is supposed to be filled with rape apologists. Change the narrative by defining the exact so…
/r/TheRedPill03/11/14 07:21 AM
-5

Replace the genders in that story and tell me you're not irate. They both got drunk and fooled around. In all likelihood the entire reason they got drunk was so that they would be comfortable fooling around. No one raped anyone. But he is threatening to accuse her of rape. That's ridiculous. Just like how it would be ridiculous if she accused him of rape.
/r/TheRedPill03/11/14 07:15 AM
-8

Seriously. If this was a man being accused you'd all be irate as fuck. Don't condemn her just because she doesn't have a penis and can't share in our enjoyment of this sweet moment of gender juxtaposition. Remember, it isn't individual women we hate, and certainly not those who didn't do anything wrong, it's the bullshit institutions we hate and want to see buried. Am I wrong? Do we hate this girl? Do we believe she should suffer for something we'd never condemn a man for? That's pretty stupid a…
/r/TheRedPill03/11/14 06:51 AM
1

I like you. Hang around and contribute.
/r/TheRedPill03/11/14 06:42 AM
-4

Sure. Ok. Still though, there was nothing wrong with what she did and she doesn't deserve this anymore than men deserve this. She needs to be the martyr because she has a vagina and that's all women pay attention to? ok, whatever, my point still stands. She didn't do anything wrong, she didn't rape the guy, her decision making was fine.
/r/TheRedPill03/11/14 06:41 AM
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Sure, I'll give you that. But I was referring to what this thread is actually about. Rape and consent. Which I'll reiterate, this woman did nothing wrong in regards to.
/r/TheRedPill03/11/14 06:39 AM
3

That hasn't been my experience at all. Two Indian gfs born overseas, perfectly comparable hygiene.
/r/TheRedPill03/11/14 03:34 AM
1

To counter this I've dated two Indian women. One from Delhi who had a relatively affluent upbringing who while sweet to me, turned out to be a bit racist, super unempathetic and pretty entitled. Her opinions on the poor made me do a doubletake. Couple that with how deeply involved she was with another Indian guy before her and I got together and it was all just clicking those stereotypical red flags. Conversely, I also dated an Indian woman who was born in a village in Punjab but moved to the st…
/r/TheRedPill03/11/14 03:32 AM
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To be fair, this woman did nothing wrong and doesn't deserve this. She doesn't deserve to be martyred for the sake of reversing bad policy any more than some men needed their lives derailed by things that weren't rape in a campaign to raise awareness of real rape.
/r/TheRedPill03/11/14 02:23 AM
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He put himself in that position. He decided to start drinking with someone he's been sexually active with. Oh. Oh man. It's suddenly so easy to sympathize when the perp doesn't have a penis.
/r/TheRedPill03/11/14 02:20 AM
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and you still dont know a thing about me Golden. That's a perfect reply. It makes you such a mystery. You're already completely different physically, with new confidence, what else does she not know about you? It fully resets her existing perceptions. And of course, as humans, we will in blank spaces the way we wish they were. Even if you're amazing guy, you still do well to be an unknown than a known. If you're a doctor volunteer firefighter veteran, that's all you are. If you're a mystery you …
/r/TheRedPill02/11/14 09:25 PM
4

If that isn't real, that's the most amazing imitation of Colbert-style snark I've ever seen one attempt to pass for real. A shame it didn't air, I would genuinely have been interested in how she would have reacted.
/r/MensRights02/11/14 05:08 PM
5

As the numbers grow, the perception from detractors will not be that perhaps there is something valid here, but rather that the world is filled with more neck bearded woman hating misogynists than they previously thought. People by and large see the world as they prefer it. If TRP breaks 100 you can hear the headlines now: "Reddit becoming a safe haven for the world's worst misogynists" "Proof that the struggle for equality and the fair treatment of women is far from over, the hate-filled messag…
/r/TheRedPill31/10/14 06:43 PM
1

That is exceptionally disheartening.
/r/TheRedPill31/10/14 06:14 PM
6

It was possible that I was being sarcastic
/r/MensRights29/10/14 06:30 PM
3

Beautifully valid instances
/r/MensRights29/10/14 06:24 PM
2

The first thing that came to mind when I wondered who could bring this issue to the public's eye and champion similar causes, was clearly feminism. They have a long history of addressing issues just like this. Which is why it's the only movement anyone could possibly need.
/r/MensRights29/10/14 06:22 PM
0

Well yeah what I did was wrong, but no one was supposed to find out about it! Curse /r/undelete and users who are subscribed to many different subs messaging me about this!
/r/TheRedPill27/10/14 06:03 PM
16

How I've come to see things: RP: What can I change about myself to change the outcome? BP: What do I need to change about everyone else to change the outcome? You only care about censoring, intimidation and doxing if controlling what other people thinks matters to you.
/r/RedPillWomen26/10/14 11:00 PM
10

We do what we can, because we must. Glad you were able to avoid falling into something unhealthy and unproductive. Eyes open, nose to to the wind.
/r/TheRedPill26/10/14 04:52 PM
3

Yeah, I missed it on the front page but I saw it on r/undelete
/r/MensRights26/10/14 05:23 AM
3

It's slippery because for some women this can be a thing and for another's not so much. You have to be really careful about when a boundary is real, and not quite. Even for women who do have some soft boundaries and -do- want you to be assertive, that won't be true for -all- their boundaries. Best rule of thumb is not to push a boundary you suspect is soft until you're close enough to be forgiven for misinterpreting.
/r/TheRedPill26/10/14 05:20 AM
0

The hamstering in here is truly ironic. It seems the only uncomfortable truths a lot of people want to swallow are the ones that aren't all that uncomfortable after all.
/r/TheRedPill25/10/14 08:08 PM
0

I'm sure the couple of people you know from Alabama are perfectly representative of the greater United States. That's a really compelling argument you present. A black person voted for a black candidate therefore it must be race? Did they vote for the black republican? No they didn't. Even though Obama is only half black. Gee, I wonder if race wasn't the relevant quality after all.
/r/TheRedPill25/10/14 08:04 PM
2

Dude, you're hamstering. It doesn't take much to be a better alternative than Hillary. It's that simple. Obama was. Race was irrelevant. He could have been white and still won. Progressives don't furiously masturbate over diversity in the outlandishly comical way you and others are desperately trying to do the mental gymnastics to prove. Sure, the world is more palatable if Obama merely got the nod because of white guilt, but the world would also be more palatable if women valued merit over look…
/r/TheRedPill25/10/14 06:16 PM
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His color was not a huge part of it. Is it really so hard to believe that in addition to wanting anyone but bush, people also wanted a viable alternative to Hillary? You think you guys are the only ones who have an issue with her? The Republicans had a black guy in their primary who went no where.
/r/TheRedPill25/10/14 03:47 PM
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White guilt? Lol. When he said there are no red states or blue states he cut through the partisan bullshit and said exactly what a fuck ton of people wanted to hear. There was a republican black candidate as well. Yet "White Guilt" wasn't tripping over itself to give him any traction.
/r/TheRedPill25/10/14 03:27 PM
2

Go dancing. Take your date on a physical activity.
/r/TheRedPill25/10/14 03:24 PM
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Disagree. People didn't vote for Obama in the primary because he was half black, they did it because his message was superior. Hillary is very defeatable.
/r/TheRedPill25/10/14 03:02 PM
3

Ewww. No, someone like Bernie Sanders please.
/r/TheRedPill25/10/14 03:00 PM
1

It's not an advantage when the consequences are dire.
/r/MensRights24/10/14 08:45 PM
3

That's what lawyers do
/r/MensRights24/10/14 07:00 PM
2

Sounds like an avenue for deep discussions and understanding of different perspectives.
/r/MensRights24/10/14 06:48 PM
1

Everything you said mirrors my experience completely.
/r/TheRedPill24/10/14 06:44 PM
2

That's the excuse as to why it's not revoked, but have you ever known a power authority NOT to use an advantage the moment it becomes convenient?
/r/MensRights24/10/14 06:12 PM
2

If WWIII breaks out, a fight for our very survival, you are unlikely to be short volunteers. If you're fighting a war you have no reason to be involved in (like say, Vietnam) then you're unlikely to have sufficient popular support to fight it without a draft. A volunteer army is in my opinion, a critical check on a representative government in the overall balance of power.
/r/MensRights20/10/14 01:21 AM
0

Not to say that there is no truth to that position. But what annoys me is that it's the only allowed position to have. When computer science was small, it attracted a niche of both sexes. As it expanded, there continued to be an abundant amount of men interested in the field. Not to say that there were not subtle gender exclusionary practices that may have hindered equivalent penetration with women, but the notion that maybe women as a larger whole were not as interested in the field as other su…
/r/TheRedPill19/10/14 11:56 PM
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I'm pretty certain that the moment women have to sign up for selective service will be the beginning of its end. That's the only reason I support this. Equality should be no one forced to kill or to die.
/r/MensRights19/10/14 01:57 AM
2

I never knew Harvard professors were such vocal rape apologists. /s
/r/MensRights16/10/14 01:06 AM
1

It's a platform for many different things, yeesh
/r/MensRights12/10/14 02:33 PM
2

Actually, I find neither creepy.
/r/MensRights11/10/14 02:30 PM
11

Pretty sure I have to go through my GP to get referred to a therapist. Also, while you're likely correct about: "A psychiatrist will take you seriously"
/r/MensRights10/10/14 04:42 PM
4

Communities of dorks are created because we like the same things. That's literally the beginning and end of it.
/r/RedPillWomen10/10/14 04:21 PM
7

Apathetic. Not so much as depressed as just empty now. But burritos are delicious and there's always another season of game of thrones a year away. I don't have the will to care anymore, but I've found a way to exist reasonably comfortably without care. After a lifetime of overachieving, things now balance on the razor's edge of new minimum effort, but it's ok. I think I'm ok. And ok is, well, it's ok.
/r/MensRights10/10/14 04:10 PM
8

It's what kept me from being taken seriously when I sought help from my doctor too. It took me over a year to finally seek help. But when I finally did, I didn't report missing enough work, missing enough meals or crying frequently enough so the doc prescribed rest, healthy food and exercise and told me to get back to her is things didn't change in a couple of months. I got depressed, sucked it up, and that not only kept me from seeking help, but kept it from going noticed as easily.
/r/MensRights10/10/14 03:21 PM
56

Same. Didn't have a general practitioner. Never go to the doctor, have no need. So I got one, and told her I thought I was suffering from depression. Was told to take a questionnaire, uh, ok. Doc looked over my responses, told me that I didn't meet a benchmark and likely was just having a rough patch. Apparently I hadn't missed enough work, abused enough substances, skipped enough meals, or cried frequently enough. Clearly that questionnaire was designed with a very limited perspective in mind. …
/r/MensRights10/10/14 03:14 PM
5

This is a case of her not knowing how to say no, and not of the guy making poor or malicious decisions (aside from that condom thing maybe). Having been in the exact same position with the exact same rationalizations running through my head I sympathize with her, and while I take great umbrage with the actions of my one time partner, I'm not going to label it rape; people are not mind readers.
/r/TheRedPill02/10/14 12:20 AM
4

Probably honest, probably proud of herself, probably doesn't get that the impact of having your gf sleep and cuddle with someone else is equally hurtful.
/r/TheRedPill01/10/14 03:29 PM
1

I don't disagree in spirit, but do they not get how division of labor can end up working in a marriage?
/r/MensRights01/10/14 03:05 PM
1

You need to back away from the absolute and sweeping generalizations.
/r/TheRedPill29/09/14 10:45 PM
2

Women can be both attracted to you and feel your demands are unreasonable. They might even acquiesce to keep you, but if you pull this shit just to get your way (as op seems to present it) even a girl attracted to you is going to leave, and no it won't make her horny, and while that may mean she now falls in the 'not attracted to you' category, you put her there. There's a difference between holding frame, respecting yourself ... and being manipulative, demanding and not respecting her. It's one…
/r/TheRedPill29/09/14 09:04 AM
1

The example of her saying she needed lube and you saying may screw that is where I speed reading. Glad it worked out for you, but this is swinging the pendulum too far and while I'm glad you've found a segment where this extreme seems universal, this isn't something you can just go into a situation presuming. Outright ignoring a stated preference is not ok. And the ludicrous bio-truths used to try and legitimize this is disgusting. Lubrication is a rape response and presuming she wanted it and l…
/r/TheRedPill28/09/14 05:30 AM
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A lot of this is genuine rape, NAWALT and endorsing this is sick. And to think of all the times I defended TRP as a place of self reflection and improvement. That some women respond positively to ignoring their protests and forcing yourself on them, does not make for a blanket philosophy.
/r/TheRedPill27/09/14 10:08 PM
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Some do! But not all! You can not approach this as a one size fits all! It is an egregious approach against those who do not want this from you! Not all women are like this holy shit!
/r/TheRedPill27/09/14 03:30 PM
1

I've been arguing this exact point for a long time and an thrilled to find it gaining greater traction these days.
/r/TheRedPill23/09/14 09:51 PM
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But since their mandate is gender equality in the workplace, shouldn't they be acutely aware of their problem and thus vigorously campaigning for more male representation in their ranks? Or does it not count when men are under represented?
/r/MensRights22/09/14 03:38 PM
-2

Because I'm sure most feminists believe that women have to be coerced into heterosexuality, right?
/r/MensRights21/09/14 05:56 PM
2

You're angry because you want things to be different, your expectation is for a world that is different or better than what you actually deal with. What needs to happen is for you to accept things, and people, the way they are. It's not going to be fair from the perspective of your values, but your values aren't respective of reality. People are gonna people.
/r/TheRedPill21/09/14 05:48 PM
1

/agree completely
/r/MensRights21/09/14 04:49 AM
6

The way you wish reality and relationships ought to work, was not in line with how they do. You're in a dangerous place where bitterness and anger can take root and out of it will grow the exact person of darkness you imagined TRP to be before you found wisdom here and your opinion shifted. It's important to keep frame. By that I mean to stand up for yourself the way you have, but without taking it personally and being angry and having an attitude. With time your goal ought to be to rise above t…
/r/TheRedPill21/09/14 03:02 AM
1

Yeah, watching that video and seeing the color of the kids skin I was like, shit, he's a man and black. No wonder he was fucked and no one is paying him any attention. They already made up their minds. How can they watch that video, get the report back from the doctors as to the nature of the abuse, and NOT go right back to that house and arrest the mother?
/r/MensRights21/09/14 01:40 AM
-5

What a great way to show that MR only object to straw men outliers. Edit: Listen you fools. If you're on the fence and all you see are MRAs complaining about absurd outliers that don't represent what the target audience sees as actual feminism, they'll presume that MR only has legitimate issues with radical feminism. But so what? everyone has issues with radical feminism. It's like, have you ever gone to the against men's rights sub? All they do is pick out absurd downvoted comments in MR subs a…
/r/MensRights20/09/14 10:11 PM
1

I admire the father's restraint in this situation. The mother seriously abused the child then left it outside at 1 in the morning when she called the father to come get him.
/r/MensRights20/09/14 09:58 PM
4

Which is why if its a staunch feminist post only those people care enough to go in, vote and comment. And why in posts like this it's the reverse population. True about a lot of subs and reddit as a whole, which is why in one thread 'reddit' says one thing but in another thread 'reddit' says another.
/r/MensRights09/09/14 06:25 PM
18

Pedophile. I bet you were attracted to girls in middleschool too!
/r/MensRights08/09/14 04:48 AM
0

That's absurd
/r/MensRights06/09/14 03:44 PM
4

Jesus. You guys take to bed some really sketchy folks. Some entitled evicted girl with no manners? To what end? Is sex really that hard to come by?
/r/TheRedPill06/09/14 03:06 AM
1

Well, obviously, but I'd like the reasoning attributed to be valid. If you're going to disagree with someone, do so for the right reasons or not at all.
/r/MensRights06/09/14 03:01 AM
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To be fair the logic usually has less to do with the capacity to consent so much as viewing an older man as being manipulative and an older women as just giving the younger guy what he wants; viewing men as actors and women as acted upon. That's where the sexism comes from.
/r/MensRights06/09/14 01:22 AM
3

I just want to add to your analysis that the 1 in 5 figure comes from the 2010 CDC report. It only says that 1 in 5 women has been raped (by their interpretation, not the interpretation of the respondent) and is not a predictive figure. It's a loaded figure because it's weighted by instances that occurred decades ago in entirely different cultural contexts. Plying with alcohol was not considered nonconsentual in the same way it is now, so they found a preponderance of incidents. However when you…
/r/MensRights29/08/14 03:23 PM
1

Why is it easier to invent seatbelts than to teach people not to text while driving? Why can't we do both? Why can't we applaud anything that helps??
/r/MensRights27/08/14 03:23 PM
2

I'm subbed to every place that discusses gender and equality, and I call out BS on all sides when I see it. I don't pull my punches on MR on TRP when someone says something absurd, but I'm always waking on eggshells when I do so in a feminist leaning sub. And I've still been banned from multiple subs. /r/feminism mods wouldn't even answer my civil request for an explanation as to why.
/r/MensRights25/08/14 03:42 PM
3

I bobbed and weaved in a recent thread on LPS until the person basically claimed that her unsubstantiated preferred opinion was equivalent to a cogent counter argument ... Effectively saying "nuh uh" was a perfectly fine response.
/r/MensRights25/08/14 03:38 PM
1

I'd have tried to get more than 50% custody given those circumstances.
/r/MensRights23/08/14 12:01 AM
3

Men's Right's is wrong. This is a truth so obvious that when discussing it, it's often expressed as a given. No evidence is provided because it's self evident. It's a hatred filled movement, with no point in existing, and it therefore follows unsurprisingly that every follower is some woman hater afraid of real equality. At least, that's the general thought process of someone who approaches the world through a confirmation bias. When the conclusion is a fixed point, the evidence becomes the vari…
/r/MensRights20/08/14 06:32 PM
-2

My eyes are rolling hard at your internet detective skills.
/r/MensRights19/08/14 10:44 PM
-2

In my haste I transposed letters, do you really want to quibble over that?
/r/MensRights19/08/14 09:45 PM
0

What is the single reason that explains both? (And don't say something circular like 'the patriarchy')
/r/MensRights19/08/14 07:14 PM
0

So does the feminist movement by that argument. Does that alone alter the validity of their perspectives any less than with the MRM? No.
/r/MensRights19/08/14 06:29 PM
-2

Look I get that. And keep the labeling to yourself; I identify as an MRM, but when these women did NOT receive differential treatment, I ask again, how does this case present as a MRM issue? If any court case involving a woman, right or wrong qualifies, then you'll see the quality of posts diluted by 'so what' news stories such as this.
/r/MensRights19/08/14 06:28 PM
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I don't understand how this is a men's rights issue. How was gender a factor here in a prevailing manor that requires redressing? They were shitty people who seen to have gotten the same sentence a man would have gotten. Are we going to post literally anything that happens to a woman, good or not?
/r/MensRights19/08/14 02:39 PM
0

Sure you can. It just doesn't make any more sense than me withdrawing my enthusiasm for eating at McDonalds 4 hours after the fact when my body starts to feel like shit. I can do that, "I am no longer in agreement about that food I had", it just doesn't matter. She can do that too, it just doesn't make the guy a rapist. You're leaping to the conclusion that withdrawing consent always means rapist. That's not the case. It's only the case in instances where after the withdrawal, the partner has th…
/r/MensRights18/08/14 08:14 PM
1

The sad thing is that someone from /r/feminism, /r/AMR or /r/SRS is going to troll through this thread, find this, and post it to their little corner as more proof of inherent misogyny in the MRM movement and how they're by and large rape apologists. I can't for the life of me believe that that's the case. Those downvoters had to have simply misunderstood what I was saying, or presumed off the bat I was some straw man radical feminist simply because I disagreed, and downvoted me out of spite wit…
/r/MensRights18/08/14 08:10 PM
-1

Wasn't arguing your point as much as trying to add to it. Really? Because you lead off with... Well that's like your opinion man. ...insinuating that yes, you hold an opposing opinion. You weren't adding to my point, but providing a counter point to what you mistakenly read my position as. I'm glad you've reread it and now hold a different understanding of what the point was, but don't tell me I was being 'vague' If she asks to stop at any point during, you stop. Is not vague. I was tryin to add…
/r/MensRights18/08/14 08:04 PM
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You do realize that that is exactly the stance I'm standing behind right? That no action prior to the withdrawal of consent counts as rape, but that anything thereafter does. If they withdraw consent after the fact, too bad. If they withdraw consent in the middle of the act and you stop, too bad. But if consent is withdrawn in the middle and you elect to continue, then yes that thereafter becomes rape.
/r/MensRights18/08/14 03:31 PM
5

I'd like to believe the nuance of what I tried to convey was simply lost on the people voting, but the vote totals suggest something rather disgusting.
/r/MensRights18/08/14 03:26 PM
13

There's obviously a reasonable grace period for the partner to come to terms with such an out of the blue and unexpected request. Where we draw the line is important. But agreeing 5 seconds shouldn't be called rape (as I certainly would agree) isn't the same as agreeing the partner doesn't need to stop. I'd like to give you the benefit of the doubt and presume that's not what you meant, but that's exactly what your initially comment reads as. If a court believes 5 seconds exceeds a reasonable gr…
/r/MensRights18/08/14 03:21 PM
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If she asks to stop at any point during, you stop. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that and the five of you that upvoted this ought to be ashamed. The egregiousness is only when she develops her change of heart after the partner has any power to change things, ie after the fact.
/r/MensRights18/08/14 11:46 AM
1

I have this friend from high school who hit everyone, me in particular. As emphasis, an endearing sort of, "oh you ". And the guys who showed they could take it she didn't bother to hold back on. I enjoyed the back and forth and didn't mind it at all. It was cute, we had a thing. One day a decade into our friendship she's at my place, we're eating dinner, catching up. I make a verbal jab and she respond with a first to my gut. I knew it was coming, might even have been looking to provoke it. But…
/r/MensRights04/08/14 12:06 AM
2

Men are actors, women acted upon. Women need protecting, men need to be leashed. I wonder how much of this is historical gender bias that just needs to hurry up and die off, and how much is still subtlety reinforced and passed along. Certainly illustrates why there is such a disparity in the recognition of and allocation of resources for broader men's mental health issues, dv included.
/r/MensRights01/08/14 04:55 PM
1

Wrong, because that presumes that gender defines need. A gender may incline itself generally, but there will always be outliers. Those outliers will never be served if your programs are gendered.
/r/MensRights31/07/14 04:00 PM
1

I hate gendered programs. I hate those programs, I hate this program. This woman is right. And her disdain extends rightfully to every program that exists for women but not men.
/r/MensRights30/07/14 11:23 PM
1

It should be for all people of risk. Of which the majority would be men, of which the majority would be minorities. It solves the issues while being gender and race neutral.
/r/MensRights30/07/14 11:21 PM
1

Maybe if birth control was required, the people who sign up knowing such an out doesn't exist wouldn't enlist and you wouldn't have to deal with them in deployment?
/r/MensRights26/07/14 05:30 PM
16

This is sarcasm. I'm pretty sure this is sarcasm.
/r/MensRights09/07/14 01:34 AM
40

I agree, and largely only due to the power discrepancy of one being an authority figure. Six is a bit much as well, obviously, but often this is best handled outside of courtrooms. People forget that at these ages people are still learning. You can't know everything at 14, and while you're all outraged because you're old enough to get the nuance of why this is inappropriate, I can tell you that at that age, I would have found this interaction perfectly acceptable too. You might have as well, if …
/r/MensRights09/07/14 01:34 AM
10

The only things I take issue with is the lack of inclusiveness. But even then it only seems to be targeted at a specific reporter. I honestly didn't find anything offensive ... disagreeable, but not offensive.
/r/MensRights06/07/14 12:28 PM
2

Disagree. Stop generalizing. Do you really want feminists to point to the one shitty mra as a means to dismiss the merits of your argument? Of course you don't. So don't do that to them.
/r/MensRights03/07/14 10:53 PM
8

The same was true in the us prior to 2012 when the FBI modified it's definition half way. Now men can be raped by women, but rape is still defined as being penetrated which is why statistically so few men are 'raped' by women. In the CDC's 2010 report that the 1in5 figure comes from, that definition is used and to find the numbers for men who were forced to penetrate you have to look under 'other sexual violence'. The definitions make it very easy to dismiss male victimization but oddly, the num…
/r/MensRights03/07/14 10:37 PM
3

She doesn't even know why she did it. That's the scariest part for me. There's no profiling motive, some percentage of random claims are just going to be false.
/r/MensRights03/07/14 09:18 PM
2

But that's a perfectly acceptable defense, one they shouldn't ever need to give, and one I'm tired of making myself every time some extreme edge of the cell curve MRA makes some absurd comment.
/r/MensRights02/07/14 05:33 PM
1

It's a tactic. The thing is, there's a line. We're all very good at seeing that line with race. We're hyper aware and know immediately when it's crossed. With gender it's still fuzzy. We want too do what's right, but the balance between outcome and justice isn't as well defined in our minds. By juxtaposing gender with race, we can employ the clarity from one, and see how appropriate a course of action really is with the other.
/r/MensRights30/06/14 01:13 PM
12

This doesn't need to be a us vs them argument guys. Feminists by and large are fine on this issue. But it is an issue. And since MRs seems to be in a constant fight for legitimacy, at least against the 'vocal', we're just hyper aware of pointing out that there are problems men face that aren't being addressed with the vigor many feel warranted from existing movements.
/r/MensRights30/06/14 01:05 PM
1

Most people are sane. It's a great relief, actually. Most feminist identifying people are great. It's just a shame that studies like these give the outliers such devastatingly out of context ammunition.
/r/MensRights30/06/14 01:02 PM
20

Well, it's better than the FBI's previous definition of rape being limited to "the carnal knowledge of a women" which made it literally impossible for a man to be raped*. Rape* needs to have an asterisks if we are defining it as something other than what it's defined as in the public's mind... ...which is usually based of what they read in Merriam-Webster: "to force (someone) to have sex with you by using violence or the threat of violence" You're right. It's tragic that that definition was alte…
/r/MensRights30/06/14 03:35 AM
28

The thing that really makes me sad is that how much young men need the reverse attention, being told they can say no, that it's ok not to want to have sex. Women aren't bombarded by pressures telling them that sex is good, always, period, so there must be something wrong with you if you were thinking of turning it down. Imagine a woman talking about how she was pressured into something, didn't feel she could emphatically say no, and went along with it despite initial protests. Imagine her friend…
/r/MensRights30/06/14 03:01 AM
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If it were me I'd show up with the CDC's 2010 National Intimate Partner and Sexual Violence Survey and point out that in the one year period of 2010 the Center for Disease Control estimates that 1,270,000 women were victims of rape <sup>pdf pg 28</sup> while 1,267,000 men were victims of "being forced to penetrate" <sup>pdf pg 29</sup> ... which while being creatively not being defined as rape <sup>pdf pg 27</sup>, is what we as society think of when we consider being forced into sexual acts unc…
/r/MensRights30/06/14 01:45 AM
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Most people, when given the option, would choose rape over death. Moreover, for every one woman raped in war, how many men have died? It seems disproportionately clear that men have been the primary victims in war and to suggest otherwise merely telegraphs a desire to see the world through a narrative that places you and your interests in the center at all times, rather than see the world for what it actually is.
/r/MensRights29/06/14 01:25 PM
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If that were the case, why would I find myself not wanting to have sex? In my heart of hearts I'm frequently uninterested, and my compulsions otherwise do not stem from biology, but from the same source that has me stop and look both ways at a cross walk, wipe front to back and stand in the shower - it's what I was told to do, taught to do, what I've seen nothing but in commercials and TV and literature, friend's anecdotes and so on. Internalized habit. And sometimes that teaching is right, and …
/r/MensRights26/06/14 02:57 AM
3

When you are expected to act upon, whenever the green light is provided by a woman, where is the agency? The woman may be acted on but is most free to choose the color of her light, whereas often is the case that society treats and reinforces the notion that for a man the color of his light must always be green (except in cases of unattractiveness). Society may have been on line to shame her for saying 'yes' as it does to shame a man who says 'no', but feminism has done wonders rectifying this o…
/r/MensRights25/06/14 07:28 PM
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I'm really becoming aware of the degree to which men aren't supposed to have agency in sex, and the degree to which myself and others have internalized the notion that we're always supposed to want it, that's it's never bad, and in all cases we should leap at the opportunity and be grateful for it ... or else question our fundamental 'manness'. DMHS has become a new irksome peeve of mine. You won't find many people who would think for a minute that men aren't allowed to have choice or standards …
/r/MensRights25/06/14 12:30 PM
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Dude, I am so, so sorry.
/r/MensRights11/06/14 04:05 AM
1

Or even most of them.
/r/MensRights11/06/14 04:02 AM
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I agree, and would like to add that perhaps if we reigned in our enthusiasm to pass along the beliefs we have, and instead more frequently allowed ourselves to listen, and question, more people would feel safe sharing, exploring and interacting. Imagine if he felt he could come and share without a dozen people trying to sell him a belief system or tell him how he's supposed to feel. What if it was a place that felt like anyone could share anything?
/r/MensRights11/06/14 02:22 AM
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Yeah, the CDC survey had a breakdown for gender. The 2012 report from the department of justice does not break those individual figures into gender; it's gender specific numbers have incidents of rape lumped together with all other forms of 'violent crime'.
/r/MensRights08/06/14 12:00 AM
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Actually in that survey, if you only look at what occurred in 2010 as opposed to the lifetime figures, ie what the norm is now vs inflation from past behaviors we've since moved on from: 1,270,000 women were successfully penetrated or attempted to be. 1,267,000 men were forced to penetrate. I'd say that constitutes men and women being victimized equally. I mean, that's presuming that you count being forced to penetrate as rape. Which the study doesn't. No really, I shit you not. A women forcing …
/r/MensRights07/06/14 11:54 PM
1

This IS the feminist argument presented whenever you suggest men be given more reasonable sentencing to be "more like women." Perhaps it is when you suggest it. Delivery matters, and it's a worthy debate to have. Slinging sarcasm doesn't serve that end, why would you expect a reasoned response when you don't start with one?
/r/MensRights04/06/14 07:29 PM
1

That's a fair point. I get your contention now. I was more concerned with the trend than the specific values however. I'm still in shock over these numbers, their definitions, and how they've swept under the rug how basically the numbers show men and women were equivalently victimized in 2010.
/r/MensRights04/06/14 03:50 AM
2

My god. I just examined the definitions and raw numbers in the report myself and you're right. Total estimated rape in 2010 for women: 1,270,000 And if you count being made to penetrate as rape for men Total estimated rape in 2010 for men: 1,267,000 But on top of that, if you look at the lifetime reports you find that the number isn't as equal: Women having experienced rape in current lifetime up to this point: 21,840,000 Men having experienced rape in current lifetime up to this point: 5,451,00…
/r/MensRights04/06/14 03:36 AM
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Under "Methods" on page 9 (pg19 of the pdf) in the middle of the page, end of first parahraph, it says 45.2% by landline and 54.8% by cell phone. Am I mistaken?
/r/MensRights04/06/14 02:57 AM
2

I understand the origins of your outrage, I do. But I feel that outrage is best conveyed without using hyperbole and sarcasm. You're better than that. We're better than that.
/r/MensRights03/06/14 11:11 PM
10

You could apply the same logic to nirts. But dress standards exist for a reason. It's a little scary that girls are internalizing this tactic and will be playing this card against everything. I was a kid. That's what we did. If a tactic helped us get our way, we used it. And we started to believe we were entitled to it working. Can't wear inappropriate clothes in a classroom, it's not my fault, it's boys fault.
/r/MensRights03/06/14 07:47 AM
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When there is a discrepency between how at risk we are, and how afraid we are, people tend to change their perception of risk, not to adjust their degree of apprehension. Case in point: Terrorism. You all remember 9/11? People were worked up into a frothing state of constant anxiety. Despite the insanely low chance of another attack and despite there being zero attacks since. But in the following years, rather than lower their fears to meet the realities of actual risk, what did people do? Insis…
/r/MensRights03/06/14 07:35 AM
3

Let's break things down simply. There's a ton of stuff in which women are not treated equally to men. That list has grown shorter and shorter thanks to the feminist movement. However, there are also a ton of stuff in which men do not yet receive the same justice as women. Family courts, rape accusations, the draft, court sentencing, domestic abuse response, access to certain services such as shelters, genital rights of children, etc etc. Attempting to address those (perceived) inequalities was n…
/r/MensRights03/06/14 07:25 AM
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To be fair. I'm glad the media is being sympathetic. I think they should be sympathetic. I just believe they should be equally sympathetic to boys. Let's raise the standard when they are unequal, not lower it.
/r/MensRights03/06/14 07:09 AM
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And she'll justify it with, "but you already did" and "it's only fair, how can you be mad at me?"
/r/TheRedPill23/02/14 07:24 PM
2

Anyone who uses looks as a crutch is a depreciating asset. Doesn't matter what side of the coin you're on, it pays to invest in skills, personality, and an interpersonal capacity.
/r/TheRedPill21/02/14 01:06 AM
4

She sucks at BJs and he's inconsiderate and lack understanding. Accused her not of poor performance, but of poor enthusiasm. Personally, had he been more communicative of his wants instead of being so passive aggressive about it I bet his wife would have been happy to accommodate.
/r/TheRedPill27/01/14 01:03 AM
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What irks me is that the only justifiable point of alimony is that one person gave up their ambitions to support, through the other person, theirs. Therefore, the pay off of their joint work must be shared because after splitting the capacity to earn wouldn't be split. But she didn't seem hindered in her pursuits in the least, and their individual successes seemed very much in line with their own personally developed capacities and appeals.
/r/TheRedPill13/01/14 04:46 AM
3

Isn't Yoko from death? Not divorce?
/r/TheRedPill13/01/14 04:43 AM
0

Which is what happens when you decouple the things a sex-robot can bring to the table; you have to add to a relationship what it can't.
/r/TheRedPill13/01/14 01:25 AM
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To be fair, sex robots would also destroy male SMV aside from earning potential. Both sexes would have to dig deep introspectively about what skills and social graces they bring to a relationship and consider what they can add to make it stronger than in what they command and are thus entitled to receive.
/r/TheRedPill12/01/14 11:47 PM
2

Instead of marrying someone you love at 23: Make out with a stranger. Really? Really?
/r/TheRedPill09/01/14 06:06 AM
2

The smallest men try to walk the tallest. Have fun with your irrespectable women who don't amount to much. More respectable human beings with meaningful careers for me.
/r/TheRedPill23/12/13 05:07 AM
2

That's absurd. Are you really so insecure that you can't date an otherwise great match simply because you don't make more than them? Is money the only thing you bring to the table that that alone makes you feel inferior? And is feeling superior seriously a prerequisite for you? And you won't date a woman taller than you? Dude, you need to be big on the inside. Don't rely on being big on the outside, because you won't always be.
/r/TheRedPill22/12/13 06:54 PM
1

Wait, why don't you date women who have earned a high degree of respect?
/r/TheRedPill22/12/13 08:55 AM
2

There is a difference between 'PC' where one tries not to single something out in an attempt to not offend, and in this case where the lesson is universal and therefore isn't done justice by confining it. Pedestaling is a recipe for disaster, and it doesn't matter who the target is. There's no need to degeneralize it just for the appearance of being counter-culture.
/r/TheRedPill21/12/13 07:49 PM
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Respect is not zero sum. You don't have to respect someone less to respect yourself more. The true morale is that respect is earned, and it isn't a given; it isn't something you throw around as a means to game the system and as a dating tool. You start with a healthy degree of respect a random stranger because they are a human being, and how they act once you know them alters that. You can end up respecting a woman far more than you respect yourself because of how she carries herself; I know a f…
/r/TheRedPill21/12/13 06:58 PM
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What really gets me is the apparent disconnect. She walks away smiling after it's confirmed that it's on film that he hit her ... even though each of those incidents is preceded by her assaulting him. It's as if in her mind her actions are irrelevant.
/r/TheRedPill19/12/13 09:03 PM
3

In a relationship, you want someone who will help and support you, go out of their way for you. You ask for something, impose yourself on them, and they oblige, because you care for and work for one another. But when you say no, the other person has to take a step back and reassess their imposition. Was I looking for help or was I just abusing kindness for my own selfish gain? Was I taking them for granted and was it unfair. They have to realize that with you they need to respect your own needs,…
/r/TheRedPill13/12/13 08:12 PM
1

You're a human first. There's far more that's universal than is polar.
/r/TheRedPill13/12/13 09:50 AM
2

They are not opposites either. They are more similar than not.
/r/TheRedPill13/12/13 08:06 AM
12

Be above the request. Girl asks you if you can get her something from across the room while you're reading or something, you say, "no, I'm reading" and go back to reading as if there's no context playing in the background. It's not a powerplay. It's not you pushing back, or failing to be considerate. She simply asked, and you declined. It's not going to affect how you treat her moving forward, you're not angry, you're still going to go to the movies with her and so-and-so, you're just not going …
/r/TheRedPill13/12/13 02:29 AM
4

Any post written where you can exchange the sexes and have it still work is always spot on in here. This is all about entitlement and the human need to date "up". An attractive 35 year old man with great prospects is likewise going to give a woman who pushes back in the right ways more attention than one who simply fawns over him. Everyone wants a challenge, that's a catch, that isn't easy. And as long as you aren't playing it as if it were a game, and just being a normal respectable human being…
/r/TheRedPill13/12/13 02:23 AM
1

Listen, scenario two is the correct way to handle it. Communication, not ultimatum, but honest discussion, laying out your feelings, your needs and the framework for the kind of relationship you want to be in. No dice? He leaves. No need to treat her wrong with one of his own by cheating. Hell, he could even leave without discussion if he felt like it. The problem was that it was posed in TBP and not somewhere remotely sane. The average blue-piller is actually twice as nuts as the most whacked o…
/r/TheRedPill06/12/13 09:17 AM
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You don't actually want that. Less women worth your attention means more competition for those that do meet your standards. It's always in your best interests to attempt to help people achieve their potential.
/r/TheRedPill27/11/13 08:26 AM
-1

The women claimed that parading alongside taller male recruits caused them to over-stride, a repetitive motion which, when repeated over several weeks, led them to develop spinal and pelvic injuries. If this is the case, it doesn't seem nearly as preposterous as the title suggests.
/r/TheRedPill25/11/13 02:05 AM
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She was 13. To be honest, I think she might have been in a shitty place, surrounded by shitty people and shitty examples. Which arguably, is kinda the point of getting the hell away from Kodiak. Might not be her, might just be that Kodiak is not the best place culturally to raise children.
/r/TheRedPill25/11/13 01:54 AM
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Oh hey, it's my comment. On Red Pill. Stereotypes aside, I'd like to add that in the ensuing back an forth it was brought up that there's a lot more in the skills department that can be brought to the table for the woman, like traditionally male roles of fixing things, auto repair, balancing finances etc. But the thing is, no guy would get away with never doing domestic chores in a modern relationship because he attends the finances, can fix things and is the spider killer. Household duties are …
/r/TheRedPill23/11/13 10:17 PM
-1

"I don't know how I'll feel until it happens..." It's not a fucking emotional decision. You either plan a baby or you don't. ...umm, yes. Yes it is. Hormones are a thing. They aren't some unicorn fairy bullshit. They are real, can be measured, have well known, defined effects, and have a massive impact on how the mind functions. What isn't fair is the lack of compassion for someone who isn't being bombarded by a cocktail of hormones that alter the equation he was processing a week ago.
/r/TheRedPill20/11/13 10:46 PM
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I'm fairly certain I would have an abortion if the situation arose, so to be fair it's not a situation I am likely to find myself in. This is the only issue that ought to be discussed. Everything else is a distraction. A little bit of empathy would allow one to put yourself in his shoes and feel for his position. It is the failure to do this, and this alone, that leads people to their uncompassionate conclusions. No decision is right or wrong on his part. And it is unfair to cast judgement from …
/r/TheRedPill20/11/13 07:15 PM
-1

...so, Alpha men by comparison know they fall in love faster than women? I'm not sure what point you're making other than to pass anything negative on a nebulous "other". Alpha/Beta used to be a very limited but very concrete thing.
/r/TheRedPill08/10/13 10:36 PM
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It's simply a result of what matters to a person. Whatever is less important, is malleable in the name of the more important ... be that a principle, a lifestyle, a family or relationship. Everyone is guilty of it, and each person is going to have unique priorities. She clearly valued the relationship high, and lifestyle low. He valued lifestyle high and their relationship low. But once married to a wonderful woman and with kids, I bet you he'd move heaven and earth for that family, even if it m…
/r/TheRedPill08/10/13 10:31 PM
1

You're miffed that women, today, don't want to be conscripted. And you cite hypocrisy because despite the fact that men, today, do not want to be conscripted ... what men were happy to be conscripted? Bullshit. They either volunteered because of a personal sense of responsibility/nationalism or were reluctantly pressed into service and accepted it only because of negative repercussions from refusal. Vietnam be damned, that's too recent for you? You want to cite something pre-1920s you go for it.…
/r/TheRedPill01/10/13 04:05 AM
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Show me the movement demanding conscription of women. Show me the movement of men who are happy with conscription at all. Most men don't want to be conscripted, so too with women, big surprise. Among volunteer service, there absolutely has been a movement to push for permitting women the opportunity to compete for combat roles.
/r/TheRedPill30/09/13 11:03 PM
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You just parroted what I said and downvoted me for it. Did you miss the part where I talk about equal responsibility? I don't disagree with the necessity of a level recruiting field. That's the whole point.
/r/TheRedPill30/09/13 08:17 PM
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Do you have a stable career and an enticing future? Have you matured, become wiser and have interesting perspective to offer? That's what you have over a 20 something guy. But the other end of the table turning is women losing their allure and having a increasingly large window of competition and diminished window of men to date from. It's real, your mileage may vary.
/r/TheRedPill30/09/13 08:14 PM
-1

Friend, relationships can end for reasons other than the guys being a douchebag. A guy can be great and normal, but not someone you want to walk through life with. And that's a potential that might not become clear until a few months in. You go onto some inequity tangents, with which I agree. But the playing field will level a lot faster if you keep an open mind and don't shame women on a number alone, with no context, as you initially did. The 20 something inequity is real. The tables turn. For…
/r/TheRedPill30/09/13 07:42 PM
4

I only meant to expand on what you wrote.
/r/TheRedPill30/09/13 07:37 PM
1

It's one of many aspects to a person's life. She can be otherwise fantastic. You can choose not to save her, and her boyfriend can. Both are based on what you know of the person. Neither is invalid.
/r/TheRedPill30/09/13 07:06 PM
-1

Remember, it isn't the number of people that makes you bad at marriage, it's just that people unfit for marriage often sleep with a lot of people. The number isn't the meaningful metric in my experience. Plenty of relationships have potential but don't last more than 6 months, and plenty of those relationships will have naturally included a sexual component. People who get into and out of relationships for the right reasons make wonderful partners once they find the right person, in spite of the…
/r/TheRedPill30/09/13 07:02 PM
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Because while biological differences exist, that shouldn't be used as a way to deny someone who is capable inspite of those differences from an opportunity they are better qualified for.
/r/TheRedPill30/09/13 06:53 PM
1

It is, if you believe it is. You don't get to decide that. That person gets to decide that. The real problem is not that some men value their gf's lives more than their own ... it's that women don't reciprocate. They don't take up the same mantle of responsibility.
/r/TheRedPill30/09/13 06:49 PM
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I do disagree with your assertion that feminism as whole is bad because it seeks to deny instincts however. That is bad, indeed. But good feminism, long since gone and long since successful was about giving women equal opportunity to do and be what they want with out regard for instinct. If their ability was great enough to overcome a particular instinct and they were better than the man next to them, then great. It was about judging them as individuals on merit and not prejudging them based on …
/r/TheRedPill30/09/13 06:44 PM
-1

That's fine. But there's a difference between saying that someone isn't your cup of tea and declaring them to not be marriage material at all. Someone who has slept with 9 people can still be marriage material, who had been judicious and have approached their relationships with the same care as you and others. 9 isn't so high that it necessitates the conclusion of being nothing but casual sex having fuck-toy who will never ever be marriage material. It's just not someone who aligns with you.
/r/TheRedPill30/09/13 06:23 PM
1

Not everyone on the red pill is hyper misogynistic it would seem. Many simply are looking for realistic solutions to combat misandry and the double standards that actually impact us.
/r/TheRedPill30/09/13 06:19 PM
1

As someone who works in science, who interacts with researchers every day, I don't find that to fit with my empirically observation in the least.
/r/TheRedPill30/09/13 06:16 PM
0

Women have no trouble finding time for children, even with work. Ours nor world population is in any danger. And while you may consider it a more important responsibility, it's not for you to decide how another person chooses to live their lives. Being pregnant and raising a child are different things, and neither is incompatible with work should a woman so choose.
/r/TheRedPill30/09/13 07:22 AM
0

Misattributed your word to another whom I was have a sprawling conversation with, apologies friend.
/r/TheRedPill30/09/13 07:20 AM
3

Because I agree with others. And I'm not alone.
/r/TheRedPill30/09/13 06:26 AM
1

Yes, and that's one of the issues I push back on. That and child custody laws, rape prosecution procedure, dating culture and so on... ...but they aren't required for women to compete and they aren't being told that they have to go to college any more than men are. Let that last part sink in. Lack of wage increase has zero to do with immigration or the masses of women working. If you think you'd be paid twice as much because half the workforce disappeared and supply and demand would raise the va…
/r/TheRedPill30/09/13 06:09 AM
3

I really would like to see women compete on a level playing field with men, in anything. They will be fucking destroyed. Men are superior to women in sports, academia, work, politics, warfare, and anything that doesn't solely involve socializing on a local level. Look I'm going to bed. You're very wrong about everything you writ in pretty much every nuanced detail. But that right there has to be the most absurd claim. There are women I work with that are much better scientists than some of my ma…
/r/TheRedPill30/09/13 06:03 AM
1

No one is forcing their inclusion, and the only thing pushed is that it's as valid an option as anything else. Women who want families make time for it just like men who want families make time for it and the most successful families are those that cooperate to pol the greatest amount of time for their families. Women in the workplace does not impact the capacity to achieve the same result as with a traditional gender role family.
/r/TheRedPill30/09/13 05:51 AM
0

The "consequences" don't manifest just because you say they will or believe they will. You're advocating a social policy that strips rights from other human beings based on nothing but your own personal preference and that is reprehensible morality and irresponsible public policy. Single parent homes are something to address, but your solution of giving women zero options aside from homemaking is an absurd extreme. And I don't believe you advocate it for any reason other than that is how you wan…
/r/TheRedPill30/09/13 05:47 AM
-2

Child raising can be accomplished as a pair or with a man as a primary caregiver just as effectively as with the mother as the home body. Gender is not irrelevant, time spent is. Men can be just as good at cooking, cleaning, taking care of the home and managing children as women after all. And I'm sorry. While you may not like prefer socialism, welfare, abortion and birth control none of those are bad and are hardly decimating families. That is your opinion, a preference, and to claim it as indi…
/r/TheRedPill30/09/13 04:42 AM
1

Do you think men should be encouraged? Why does anyone need encouraging? What's wrong with just letting people pursue what they are better at than the next person, regardless of their gender?
/r/TheRedPill30/09/13 04:31 AM
0

Most women do not. Most men do. Hence, barring women from voting is a net positive. That is utterly absurd. Do you have anything backing that claim at all? When the best and brightest women slave away pushing paper instead of bearing children, civilization declines. No, it hasn't. Despite this being the case. I'm going to preempt you by reminding you that men can raise children too. For some men, they're better at it than women. Do you seriously want the genius woman scientist who doesn't get ch…
/r/TheRedPill30/09/13 04:28 AM
0

Women, being emotional, fear-based creatures will never vote in a rational manner. Plenty of women vote rationally all the time. Plenty of men vote irrationally. Whenever women are allowed to vote, freedom and individualism is replaced by socialism and collectivism. Even if this is true, which it is not, many would argue those are neither mutually exclusive nor is one necessarily better than the other in all cases. As for women not being a benefit, I entirely disagree. There are certain spots th…
/r/TheRedPill30/09/13 03:44 AM
4

How do you define equality and how is equality a detriment to a functioning society?
/r/TheRedPill30/09/13 03:35 AM
27

20 something I can understand /u/HungerGuy's frustration; the inherent value in a woman is higher than that of equivalent aged men. They are in the prime of their beauty and still at an age where family is the future and responsibility is low so they are afforded great freedom to explore. Men are still largely judged in unequal measure on their successes, particular career, though hobbies and accomplishment count as well. These are things that men have in short supply in their early 20's and the…
/r/TheRedPill30/09/13 02:38 AM
2

Not as freely or as easily. A woman blessed with a scientifically gifted intellect had a really hard time convincing society to let her contribute before feminism. And a harder time still participating in the schooling that would even allow one to realize that potential existed in the first place. Equality is a wonderful thing, and it took feminism to get it. It's just that some who would rather believe that their gender and not their ability is what holds them back from where they want to be ha…
/r/TheRedPill30/09/13 02:17 AM
1

Friend, she might. And if she does, then she wasn't worth the effort. And if what it would have taken for her not to was for you to be on the overbearing end of the spectrum, she wasn't worth it. It doesn't take a controlling gf to keep you from cheating, and it shouldn't take the same to keep her loyal either. If she does, then she does. Those are her failings however, not yours. And on the other hand she might just meet someone absolutely amazing; there's nothing wrong with that, and it could …
/r/TheRedPill30/09/13 02:11 AM
1

It existed, but did so in isolation and in the subconscious. Plenty enough for anecdotes. It was real, but never so egregious as some preached, not for a very very long time anyways. Laws, conscious habit, and most importantly: time, has largely taken care of the real pockets of misogynistic conspiracy left.
/r/TheRedPill30/09/13 02:05 AM
2

Only if they invent and exaggerate non issues to fuel personal persecution complexes. Which unfortunately seems to be the case. Legitimate grievances still do pop up time to time, but I think society is now largely self correcting in these regards, and the need for a movement has passed. The women I know most passionately interested in equality are largely inactive because there really isn't much that needs righting.
/r/TheRedPill30/09/13 02:01 AM
3

You do not believe women ought to vote, or the principle of their opportunity to contribute to society in business or science has been of benefit to society?
/r/TheRedPill30/09/13 01:53 AM
9

I can count the number of self proclaimed feminists that were genuinely interested in equality on one hand. They were beautiful human beings. Feminism is a relic because it's no longer about being a watchguard for equality, but has been largely co opted as a legitimate voice to project unpopular and radical misandry. Equality and fairness is wonderful and I support those of either gender in pursuit of it where things are grossly lopsided, but the feminism as a term has become an umbrella for vie…
/r/TheRedPill30/09/13 01:51 AM
22

Tables turn. Women who don't prepare for it have trouble later in life. Men who who are bitter and don't prepare for it aren't ready to capitalize on it as much when it comes. We all reap what we sow, unequal advantage or not.
/r/TheRedPill30/09/13 12:29 AM
4

I think it's fine and great that she appreciates what "nice guys" have to offer; different people are going to realize that at different times. But I suspect she hasn't been doing much to make her worth the effort in the interim, and personally find her past objectifications a turn off and a red flag for character.
/r/TheRedPill30/09/13 12:26 AM
0

Really? 9 isn't a lot. I'm more concerned with the objectification and the taste. I wouldn't sleep with a hot chick I didn't click magically with just to check it off the list, and that's a standard I hold potential partners to as well. Numbers are subjective. 9 might be high for you, but it's not high for most people I know in their mid/late twenties as she likely is.
/r/TheRedPill30/09/13 12:23 AM
4

Wow, it's described like trophies. Objectification doesn't care what gender you are.
/r/TheRedPill30/09/13 12:15 AM
-1

Sometimes mens's rights can be so beautiful poignant.
/r/MensRights11/02/13 06:32 PM
0

Why did people down vote this? Remove gender for a second and realize that both parents don't have an equivalently demanding career in order to have an equally supportive relationship. More goes into a relationship than how much time you spend at work and how much money you bring home. There's nothing wrong with feeling your strengths lie inside the home any more than there is fault in your flaws falling on the domestic side. In such a case, it only makes sense to find someone just as lopsided s…
/r/MensRights18/01/13 07:01 AM
1

... SCORES
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