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This guy is an amazing troll.
/r/seduction28/08/10 07:05 PM
1

If I'm dating an attractive girl, there will always be guys trying to game her. Just throw better game and she won't leave. It's a lifestyle dude, not a one and done thing.
/r/seduction19/08/10 07:54 PM
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Gotta say you failed this one hard. The bright side is it was a learning experience. One of the coolest breakthroughs I recently had was how to deal with hostile women in groups. I've run into this a few times out at bars/clubs where there will be one hostile chick in a group of women. The rest will just sit there watching to see how you handle their aggressive bitchy friend. There are two ways I deal with this girl: 1) Ignore her: pretty simple, I use this one if her comments are just bitchy li…
/r/seduction18/08/10 01:56 PM
1

I came here just to post this. ATMs make everyone nervous. Avoid game here unless its already a really social situation.
/r/seduction18/08/10 01:45 PM
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I've done this before and had the girl race up to me the next day and declare she broke up with her BF. It works.
/r/seduction18/08/10 01:42 PM
1

The only time I've ever stopped gaming a girl I liked was when her boyfriend turned out to be a really close friend of mine. Keep in mind the title "boyfriend/girlfriend" doesn't keep people together, it is the emotional relationship that keeps people together. If this is weak, and the girl is looking for something better (you), then it's not your fault. You have no control over the status of their relationship.
/r/seduction18/08/10 01:41 PM
2

Why are you asking us? Go field test that shit Rick!
/r/seduction04/08/10 06:07 AM
5

Hmm, I suppose I could set an approach goal for myself. If nothing else it would be exciting! Ok, I'll tell you what. I start class again on the 23rd of August. I hereby promise to our Reddit alien overlords that I will do 5 cold approaches a day between now and the 23rd of August. That is 95 approaches in 19 days. I'll try to get them done faster if I can, I'll stop at 100. Looking forward to this!
/r/seduction04/08/10 05:55 AM
2

Just finished watching Body Talk: Power. It was very informative. I think a lot of these things we know already, it just helps to have them illustrated.
/r/seduction03/08/10 02:47 PM
1

I do like this line of thought. When I think back to when I naturally closed, it was probably 50% like this. The other 50% was when I kissed right away. I guess it just boils down to your mood and feeling.
/r/seduction03/08/10 04:24 AM
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If the date went well, pretty much universally yes. Some girls claim to never kiss on the first date. This is bullshit they throw out to block guys they don't like.
/r/seduction03/08/10 02:08 AM
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I watched it all too, really good stuff there.
/r/seduction03/08/10 01:42 AM
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I'll give you a list. Approach Anxiety: The best way to beat it is numbers. Get 100 approaches done as fast as possible. Doesn't even have to be all hot girls, just make sure they are all random girls. Go to the mall, talk to everyone you see about clothes. I promise if you do this you will get over it fast. Kino: Again, the only way to feel comfortable doing this is making it a part of who you are. TOUCH EVERYONE!! (not like a rapist!) Also, next time you see one of your girl friends run up to …
/r/seduction02/08/10 02:35 PM
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Most of these guys don't have guts to start with. Otherwise they would have been hitting on girls since 3rd grade.
/r/seduction31/07/10 11:16 PM
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I can tell it's picked up around here. My problem is, I like to post FRs right after I get home, which is usually at around 3am. Very few people see them at that time and they get buried.
/r/seduction29/07/10 09:42 PM
1

That sounds so delicious!
/r/seduction29/07/10 09:11 PM
1

No the office alone didn't get me laid. Twas mere hyperbole with a kernel of truth. You don't always have to the the life of the party to get the girls. I've said it before and I'll say it again, you can win a girl just by "showing her the funny."
/r/seduction27/07/10 02:12 PM
1

Yes. You are funny by association. Don't ask me how it works, but it does. I've been laid just because I like the Office and can share in a laugh about some of the characters.
/r/seduction27/07/10 01:24 PM
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Congrats! Don't feel too bad, it's not like she was married. Every hot girl in the world has at least one boyfriend. Now this chick has two, you and the other guy. This is not at all uncommon. Girls love to talk about their boyfriends because it makes them feel more valuable. "Omg, my boyfriend took me on a romantic cruise." "My boyfriend surprised me with morning sex!" etc. Just take it as your newest lesson in game. You have power now, so use it carefully.
/r/seduction26/07/10 08:41 PM
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Look, if you want to leave, leave. If you want to stay, stay. Regardless of high or low points. It's more important that you are seen as an independent or a leader rather than a follower. Girls will respect you more if you just bounce whenever the mood strikes you, and I don't mean slip away quietly. This serves two purposes; first you will be seen as your own man, second your target is much more likely to pay attention to you in future interactions because she is wondering if you are staying or…
/r/seduction26/07/10 08:34 PM
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If you can stay in the set, stay in the set. You don't always have to the be center of attention to win the girl. In fact other people talking gives you a good diversion to talk to the girl. However, if you are working a room or event and really feel the need to hit all the sets, the best time is right after you've made everyone laugh and there is that little pause where everyone is waiting for the next funny thing. You'll know it the more you look for it, but when people laugh, they shut up to …
/r/seduction26/07/10 06:39 PM
2

Yeah, I'm a little tired this morning.
/r/seduction24/07/10 06:58 PM
1

Make an effort to at least talk to every "group" there. With 50+ people there will always be cliches, just treat them all like sets. Spend a little time talking to a group, then bounce to a next. For bonus points see if you can get groups to merge together.
/r/seduction24/07/10 06:03 PM
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I think it is because you are part of their world then. Girls need to know that you aren't creepy, and by staying in set a little longer, they get to know that you are ok. I think what I'll do to stay in is ask more open ended questions after I've opened and gotten them to relax a little.
/r/seduction18/07/10 05:11 PM
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Thanks! I try to do something new at least once a day! Isn't being alive amazing!
/r/seduction18/07/10 05:09 PM
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Good effort man. You never know what you are going to get when you go out, but that's the point now, isn't it? Also keep in mind that if a girl lets you walk her home, 99% of the time she is expecting a kiss. Just go for it!
/r/seduction18/07/10 05:09 PM
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I'm definitely drawing energy from socializing. I get all twitchy if I stay in my room too long. ;)
/r/seduction18/07/10 05:07 PM
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Yeah, I've never understood this. Guys compete for girls all the time. I've moved beyond oneitis because I will throw girls at guys just for fun. No sense competing when you can work together to achieve your goals.
/r/seduction18/07/10 05:06 PM
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Just do it man! It's never as bad being there as you think it's going to be before you get there.
/r/seduction17/07/10 08:43 PM
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The cool thing is, we really aren't broken into Alpha/Beta groups because we aren't fucking dogs. This in mind, complete freeze out is the best way to go.
/r/seduction17/07/10 12:16 AM
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Pure jealousy. I was dealing with this just last weekend. One of my newer friends thinks he is the top dog in the group, and every time I game girls around him he makes little bitchy comments. I had a girl isolated on the couch and was "practicing" reading her palm when he said from nearby "that's the oldest shit in the book." I just ignored his ass and kept talking to the girl. He didn't say anything after that because he was looking for a reaction from either me or the girl. When I didn't reac…
/r/seduction16/07/10 09:27 PM
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Hm, I see your point. Actually, that is a really good idea. Use your wing to keep her from being isolated while you go out and bring in new girls.
/r/seduction15/07/10 05:50 PM
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I think I understand. Most of my real life friends think its a bad thing to go after a "taken" girl. This comes up from time to time in my group because I have a rep for being a housebreaker, even though I've never slept with any of my friend's girlfriends. I think they see the potential is there. It is apparent though that most of these guys are beta. I don't even really believe in the alpha/beta dynamic, but they just aren't as aggressive with their girlfriends as I would be. In my social circ…
/r/seduction15/07/10 05:48 PM
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Tell your wingman that the villain is the target tonight. Have your wingman stick to him like glue, ask questions about past girlfriends, backslap, drink holder, etc. Meanwhile, you stick to the girl like your life depended on it. Don't puppy dog her, but lead her around to get drinks, go outside for a smoke (or fresh air) etc. The more proximity you have to her the better. Don't let the villain isolate her. Also, exchange knowing looks with her whenever he says something off. This is what's kno…
/r/seduction15/07/10 05:31 PM
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Why would you seek that out? Because it's easier to compete with only the boyfriend?
/r/seduction15/07/10 12:11 AM
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No, but I understand that if I have a high quality girl, she is going to get hit on. I just have to make sure that loyalty is one of her qualities, and that I keep her happy with the relationship. If either one of those is missing, I deserve to lose her to whatever player comes along and charms her.
/r/seduction15/07/10 12:10 AM
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I would just say, do the same thing every day for 10 days in a row. If you make it that far, habit should already be formed. Try going to the gym for 10 days in a row, I guarantee on the 11th day you will feel like you really need to go.
/r/seduction30/06/10 05:53 AM
1

Have fun?
/r/seduction24/06/10 07:26 PM
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This is a tough one. Short of having him rework his whole routine to include you in some sort of dynamic duo, you're going to be left in the cold. If he is a really good friend, you could talk to him about showing you some tricks, and maybe including you. You guys could take turns doing amazing things for girls. If he is just an ok friend, you might want to branch out on your own.
/r/seduction21/06/10 01:08 PM
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Ahem we may become fast friends. Send me a pm with your phone number, I'll call you.
/r/seduction20/06/10 06:01 AM
3

You really need to isolate and escalate. She won't take it further than kissing if you are at your friend's house. Shit, do it at her house if it makes her more comfortable. ++ for the wine too, girls love wine and it will give her an excuse to let you go further.
/r/seduction20/06/10 05:59 AM
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This is great advice. I'd also like to add that if you miss once, whether it's the gym, or a girl, or even quitting smoking, please don't beat yourself up over it. Just think about how you are going to stay on the wagon so to speak. Actually, now that I think about it, quitting smoking was one of the hardest things I've ever done. I still slip every now and then (had half a smoke when I was really drunk on my birthday, instantly regretted it), but I just tell myself the next morning, "It's a new…
/r/seduction17/06/10 03:25 AM
3

Bottle service can actually be a really good deal at certain clubs. A lot of it depends on what kind of bottle you get, but sometimes they are only 2-3x market value, which is way cheaper than getting 3-4 girls drunk on shots from the bar. Plus, if you bring a few girls you can use their social proof to fill the rest of the table with new ones. Now you've got your own little party in the club, and for less than it would cost normally.
/r/seduction17/06/10 01:34 AM
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Congratulations are in order, but why don't you give a little back to the community and brief us on what you did.
/r/seduction16/06/10 11:46 AM
3

This isn't a bad idea, but I'd only go for it with girls I intended on following up with. Ask any pretty girl how many times she gives out her number and you'll find that a number close is nearly meaningless in the long game though.
/r/seduction13/06/10 05:10 PM
2

I was recently in a chain restaurant drinking at the bar with a buddy. It was a very slow night, a Tuesday at maybe 1130. I was bored and started making wagers with my buddy and the other guys at the bar. Well, I asked the group how many times a night a particularly cute waitress gets hit on. They all had wild guesses, 1000, 1, etc. I ran over and pulled the waitress back and asked her the question in front of the guys. Instead of telling us, she just opened her waitress wallet and dumped about …
/r/seduction13/06/10 05:07 PM
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You may be right about the jealousy bit, but I'm inclined to try it anyway. My situation is this, I met this great girl, we hit it off really well. I was a AFC then and didn't know how to properly escalate. She LJBFed me. I stopped talking, calling, emailing, etc for quite a while. Now I haven't seen this chick in probably 3-4 months, which is a long time in college. I want to try this as an experiment. She recently sent me a happy birthday on facebook (I know, big fucking deal right?), but I'll…
/r/seduction10/06/10 09:05 PM
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I'm now looking for you in every thread! A++ would upvote again!
/r/seduction10/06/10 08:20 PM
2

Yeah, I realize that now that I saw his reply in the adorable thread. /facepalm
/r/seduction08/06/10 04:48 PM
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Damnit, I totally fell for this guy in another thread. I wrote out a long response to why what he was saying was wrong. I feel cheap and used now. >.<
/r/seduction08/06/10 04:46 PM
1

Yeah, just turned 26 this week. This is an awesome age cause I can pull 18 year olds or 32 year olds!
/r/seduction08/06/10 03:07 PM
9

There was a time in my life that this comic perfect represented me. Thank god I grew some testicles.
/r/seduction08/06/10 03:06 PM
3

This is terrible advice buddy. No disrespect to you, but you are going about it all wrong. First off, women response rates to craigslist ads are dismally low. Also, of all the places to look for dates online, craigslist is probably the basement. okcupid would be a much better bet because a) you can see a picture of them and b) you can learn a lot about them. Second, you are taking way too long to set up a date if you go from email to IM to video chat to text to phone. If it's taking you two week…
/r/seduction08/06/10 03:03 PM
1

Not so much, I live near UCF (I'm a student). I'm sometimes downtown, but I'm usually riding along with a friend when I am. I don't know much about Orlando, really, cause I moved here a little less than a year ago. I wouldn't mind coming downtown though.
/r/seduction08/06/10 02:40 PM
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Don't do anything with her! You said at least three times that you want to get over her. Either you are lying to us, and trying to get with her, or you are serious and want to move on. The easiest way to move on is to go find new girls. If you are serious, go out this week and meet 10 new girls. Also, don't live in the past. A big part of the game is learning from your mistakes, not wallowing in them. If you feel like you missed a moment, just create another one. Or don't. But not forgiving your…
/r/seduction08/06/10 02:37 PM
3

Keep in mind that smart women do go to bars/clubs on occasion. Just like us smart guys go there to meet women. ;) That aside, you'll find your best bets are bookstores, coffee shops, and okcupid. I'm still mastering okcupid, but I'd say I get about a 75% response rate when I message girls. Of about 6 girls I've held conversations with, I've met one. It's a numbers game, but it will at least help with your text game and if you do meet them in person treat it as a very warm approach. Also, don't d…
/r/seduction08/06/10 03:44 AM
1

You make everyone smell and a little bit sore?
/r/seduction07/06/10 10:43 PM
4

I dated my superior for nearly 8 months. It started at an office BBQ, I was slightly tipsy and sat on a cooler next to her, started talking, flirting etc. She had already status checked me at work ("what does your wife think? Oh, you're not married?"). I flicked her with a rubber band and when she kept it on her wrist I knew I had her. I ended up making out with her on her living room floor after I drove her home from the party. I made excuses to leave that night because she was drunk and I was …
/r/seduction07/06/10 07:32 PM
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Orlando, FL.
/r/seduction06/06/10 05:24 AM
1

Protip: Use the word "ho" instead of slut. I jokingly call my girlfriends hos all the time. It means basically the same thing and isn't offensive if you say it with a wink and a smile. Also, "hofessional" is the preferred term for a prostitute.
/r/seduction05/06/10 07:49 PM
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The trick with kino, especially early on, is to do it where nobody notices. So I would say if your hands are so cold that people jump when you touch them, this isn't good. Don't let this stop you though, try to work around it. Like you mentioned, touch them on the shoulder or back. Or you could even work a routine with girls where you complain that your hands are cold and offer to let them feel. I don't have any brilliant ideas, but I encourage you to work with or around your problems.
/r/seduction05/06/10 07:12 PM
1

I know exactly what you are talking about. It happens with me all the time. Even the lunch ladies flirt with me constantly. Don't sweat it man, just enjoy it. If you decide to take it further, you can. Girls don't flirt with guys they don't have some interest in.
/r/seduction05/06/10 03:25 AM
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I'm a bit of an old hat at college parties by now, having been in college for something like 7 years. The best way to win in these situations is be absolutely over the top. The later in the evening, the more drunk and crazy everyone else gets, the more crazy you have to be. Shout over the music, give huge high fives to guys, bear hug girls (not to tight!) and spin them around. You generally have license to act like a wild man when the party is bumping. Just go in like a tornado, take no prisoner…
/r/seduction05/06/10 03:18 AM
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There is one rule that will make you the king of college parties. Shake hands with every guy there. And try to remember their names.
/r/seduction03/06/10 03:08 AM
3

This is really the only thing I'm worried about at this point. I know I won't go straight for the kill next time I see her, but I'm going to make myself be edgy. Edit: I'm probably going to see her tomorrow night, and I think I will demand a birthday kiss. ;)
/r/seduction02/06/10 11:48 PM
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Thanks! I felt like it went really well when I was doing it, but it's nice to hear some perspective. The one new thing I was trying for here was to not break tension with smilies. I learned this from The Ultimate Texting Game by Tyler Tray. He says to go very light on the smilies, let the girls be the ones to break tension by "laughing."
/r/seduction02/06/10 11:43 PM
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Upvoted for knowing the rule.
/r/seduction02/06/10 08:16 PM
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Thank you! I'm 26 and trying to score an 18 year old, never felt more alive! :D
/r/seduction02/06/10 04:02 PM
8

I wear a condom at all times, you know, just in case.
/r/seduction02/06/10 02:10 PM
1

Yeah, you are way over thinking this. If she already put her mouth on your penis, she likes you. You are the man, tell her what you want her to do.
/r/seduction01/06/10 05:27 AM
3

Perfect point. Slow = Sexy.
/r/seduction01/06/10 05:22 AM
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intjpua hit the nail on the head here, as usual. Also, keep in mind that taller people are automatically viewed as more authoritative than shorter people. Use this to your advantage, whatever group you end up in will naturally look to you as the leader because of your height. This is a high quality problem. If you need extra cash while going to school, get a job as a bouncer in a really swanky club. Bars/clubs love to hire tall bouncers because of the above mentioned effect. You don't even have …
/r/seduction31/05/10 10:23 PM
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Just lay back a bit. Being really funny is awesome for getting everyone's attention, but if everything you say is a punchline, people may not take you seriously. Use your humor to get attention, then elicit values from the girl. The really good thing about having a rep for being funny is that when you do speak, everyone will listen. Mix in a little more seriousness with your humor.
/r/seduction31/05/10 10:15 PM
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I'm 25 and bat as low as 18 on occasion. If you get along with them and everyone is having fun, who cares?
/r/seduction31/05/10 02:55 PM
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Damn dude, you need to get your head straight. Go out and flirt with at least 10 women before talking to your ex again. See if that doesn't help put things in perspective.
/r/seduction29/05/10 01:06 AM
2

Yes, absolutely! Why do you think Tom Cruise is so popular? If you have fucked up teeth, get them fixed. If you can't smile because you are sad, listen to some comedy. If you can't smile because you are tired, go lift some weights. Do whatever it takes in your life to smile, because believe it or not when you smile you make the world a better place.
/r/seduction27/05/10 05:31 PM
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I really like the PUA journey videos because you can tell these guys aren't pros. They make a lot of mistakes, but they show the good with the bad. Understanding that you are going to make mistakes and life is not like the movies is probably the healthiest way to look at seduction. Just watching Scotty, the bald guy, at the end of that clip, I can see that #1 he doesn't angle his body 45 degrees away from the chick sitting down, this is intimidating. #2 she should sit down with her once she enga…
/r/seduction27/05/10 05:28 PM
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Good to see you're excited about changing a part of your life for the better! I'm glad you've already read The Game as that will save me the trouble of explaining why you shouldn't take this stuff too seriously. ;) That being said, I've heard Magic Bullets and anything by David DeAngelo are great. Keep an eye on seddit too, as free stuff pops up here from time to time. It sounds like you already have the right attitude for this, just remember its all for fun. As far as places to start, I know it…
/r/seduction27/05/10 05:13 PM
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I like funny trivia too. It's a good way to ping a girl without saying "hay grl wats up?" Examples: "Did you know a whale penis is called a dork?" "The female praying mantis often bites off the males head while mating. o.O" "Did you know that lions have sex 20 or 40 times a day for several days?" You get the point, I'm sure. ;)
/r/seduction27/05/10 01:22 PM
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You'll be fine if you go back. You don't even need a reason to be there, after all, she is there too! Next time you see her, just go up and say hi like she is an old friend, start talking again and when there is a break in the conversation tell her you want her number. ;)
/r/seduction27/05/10 12:46 PM
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Yeah, it's pretty true. How would you act if a very unattractive girl kept trying to isolate you? What if she kept trying to caress your hair? Or kept following you around? Girls don't think that much differently than guys do, just put yourself in their shoes.
/r/seduction25/05/10 07:40 PM
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Perfect, in fact I make a habit of doing this on the bus I ride about twice a week. I make sure I sit within her sightline but where she is naturally out of mine. That way if there is a quick break in the chat I can look where I naturally would and if she re-engages, I turn back toward her. Works really well if you have strong conversational presence as it has the effect of a false take away.
/r/seduction25/05/10 04:10 PM
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You're simply not hitting on enough girls. Or being very weird about it. If you are direct, try being a little more indirect, or vice versa.
/r/seduction25/05/10 04:04 PM
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my primary intention was not to get a number or anything, just to have friendly conversation. There's gold in them there hills... If you have this attitude with everyone you will go far. The key is just recognizing when girls are digging your convo and then press for a number. As far as your situation, it sounds like you did well on the icebreaker. Think about how she would have acted if she was thinking "get the fuck away, creeper!" She probably would have just said "thanks." and put the headph…
/r/seduction25/05/10 03:29 AM
1

Just try to make sure you keep the girl in the conversation. You shouldn't be leaving her to talk to him unless he is on fire or something. ;) A lot of potential AMOGs can be defused just by including them in the conversation from the start. By doing this you are showing that you can handle social situations without getting ruffled. Also, if he was a real threat, he would be her boyfriend, not an AMOG. All you have to do is include them all in your world and you are all good. Then when you go to…
/r/seduction25/05/10 03:14 AM
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First of all, there's no rule that says you have to wait any amount of time at all. Sometimes I'll send them a text right away to make sure they have my number. My end of the night text looks like this: "Hey petname! :p Hope you made it home safe! I'll talk to you later when you're not so tired! -ponce ;)" Girls tend not to answer their phones to an unknown number so keep that in mind. As far as texting vs. calling is concerned, CALL CALL CALL! There are a few reasons why you should be calling r…
/r/seduction25/05/10 03:06 AM
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I am in Orlando, Florida at the moment. I'll have to do some research on both the improv groups and conferences. I'm just a college student though, so while I could afford a $50-$100 talk, I don't think I could swing a $1000+ bootcamp.
/r/seduction25/05/10 02:29 AM
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Yeah, simple truth is, if you don't fail every once in a while it just means you aren't reaching your full potential. As for me, I haven't been straight up blown out of a set in a while, I've had girls give me the cold eye before, but I usually just plow through and throw another line or question at them. As for rejected kisses, haha, maybe a dozen back in middle school and high school. I've gotten everything from the awkward headbutt to the facepalm. It happens, I'm over it. ;) Also, I'm gonna …
/r/seduction24/05/10 11:38 PM
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Do you think it would be useful to join a debate team, or perhaps an improv group? I am naturally witty to some extent, but I'd love to be able to hone that skill. Basically I want to be like Jimmy Carr in this clip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-7PeL7_xWc Also, can you recommend any books for learning isolation/escalation? That seems to be where I'm having the most trouble lately. I went on a blind date last night and I knew right away that the girl was into me, but I had trouble figuring ou…
/r/seduction24/05/10 08:05 PM
1

That's more true than most people realize. There's a principle in marketing that basically says the more a person pays for something, the more they will value it.
/r/seduction24/05/10 05:38 PM
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She has a boyfriend. She wouldn't have said yes, then hesitated if she was just blowing you off. That said, she seems interested, give her a call and meet her somewhere for drinks. See where it goes from there.
/r/seduction24/05/10 05:19 PM
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25 8 (not counting the ones I paid for) 4 I just started getting interested in pickup this year, but the first major breakthrough was realizing that rejection is rarely personal, but rather because of technique. I now know that I have a great personality and tons of friends, I just get blown out because I lack the understanding of attraction and escalation. This has done wonders for my inner game and now a rejection doesn't fuck with my head for weeks, I just see it as something to analyze quick…
/r/seduction24/05/10 05:13 PM
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No no no my friend. You just need to practice. Seriously, if you've read some stuff then quit reading right now and go out and practice. What one man can do, another can. You need to loose that weak shit attitude and think like Thomas the Train; "I think I can, I think I can!"
/r/seduction24/05/10 05:07 PM
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While I think I understand what you mean, I don't think this is necessarily the right frame of mind. After all, aren't you approaching girls to hopefully start a wonderful and importantly, a mutually beneficial relationship?
/r/seduction24/05/10 05:00 PM
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700-800 approaches in a 30 day period seems like a lot to me. How do you do it? Is that just girls you were interested in, or people in total?
/r/seduction20/05/10 01:28 AM
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I think the most important thing to watch for here is the intensity spikes that he throws at her. He turns up the temperature on her then dials it back, then turns it up again, then dials it back. You can see her start to play with her hair and drum her fingers on his desk the more he does it. It's just like a lot of mPUA's say, two steps forward, one step back. Watch it again and see if you can spot what I'm talking about.
/r/seduction20/05/10 01:26 AM
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I'm a college student, so from my perspective, my time is a gift. I wouldn't want to be with a girl who liked me for my gifts anyway. Yes, occasionally I take girls out to eat or buy them a drink, but only if I'm already in a relationship with them (that includes sex). For the most part though, I make them pay as much as I do, and I never buy gifts unless they do something really special. For advise on juggling two girls, just make sure you spend an expected amount of time with each. Some girls …
/r/seduction10/05/10 04:30 PM
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So just quickly to start: I'm not interested in being a PUA and picking up a ton of girls to conquest or anything. I'm trying to find myself a girlfriend, for the long term. However the methods of seduction and being able to talk to them still apply. Not to dog-pile too much here, but this is like saying "I want to learn lockpicking, but I just want to break into Ft. Knox once! Once I've got all the gold, I'll never need to pick another lock again!" That aside, I'd have to agree with intjpua. Yo…
/r/seduction10/05/10 03:48 AM
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Very good list. Some of these I already knew, some are new to me. I will be looking back on this frequently, thank you.
/r/seduction10/05/10 03:33 AM
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Bloody brilliant, as they say! This makes me want to join a debate club and an improv group!
/r/seduction09/05/10 03:35 AM
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Yup! In my social circle, there are two other alphas (I'm the third). We take turns running shit, and both of the other two are awesome wings. Just emulate him! He's not an obstacle but an opportunity to learn.
/r/seduction30/04/10 08:50 PM
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I'm in a similar situation. I find keeping my frame playful/sexual helps a lot at college parties. I can usually get the girls fired up just by misinterpreting what they are saying as something sexual (I do this on purpose). Also, I almost always use my lingerie opener/routine: "Hey, I've been invited to a lingerie party in a few weeks and I'm trying to decide, boxers or briefs?" I get all kinds of responses to this question, but all are fun, and there is a lot of room for flirting.
/r/seduction26/04/10 03:53 PM
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I had to admit, I was expect First Mate Riker.
/r/seduction26/04/10 01:34 PM
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Just. Fucking. Do. It.
/r/seduction25/04/10 12:39 AM
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I love this routine though! I'm totally going to work it into my game. One of my favorite threads, so to speak, is the "How many?" game. I'll bet on just about anything and its really easy to suck people in by asking them "How many feet from here to that wall?" I find this works really well with a good wing to be your wagering partner. I'll elaborate; I was recently at an amusement park with a good friend, we started betting a dollar on who could guess closest to the minute how long it would tak…
/r/seduction19/04/10 09:14 PM
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Yeah, I totally hate that competition bit, but I think it comes with the territory and it's better to just learn how to deal than walk away. I can't tell from the way you worded it, but if you are the 2nd or 3rd best in your group and the 1st and 2nd are AMOGing you, its time to find new wings. There are two guys I roll with on a regular basis that are better than me, but they always lift me up, not tear me down. This is the essence of wing.
/r/seduction19/04/10 09:08 PM
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This is one of the areas I'm working to improve. I used to be so "polite" when it came to touching other people, like I just wasn't sure it was ok to touch. Now I'm getting a lot better at the friendly touching, and I realize every time I give the friend taps or the playful pushes that people are a lot more receptive to this than I initially imagined. It's always a good sign when they "play" back! Conversely, what would you do to an AMOG that was backslapping you a lot? Is there any easy way to …
/r/seduction19/04/10 09:05 PM
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That's a good point about most guys aren't aware of the deeper level social dynamics. I figured as much just based on observation of people. I think I shouldn't view them as much as an obstacle, rather a potential wing. If I game the guys as well as the girls the set might open a little better. I don't really have much trouble tooling other guys, I was in the military for 5 years and that was a sink or swim operation. I think my main concern is just knowing when is the right time to be a buddy a…
/r/seduction19/04/10 08:59 PM
1

The other guy doesn't say exactly what I was planning on saying because I don't go in with a plan. What I mean is more like pooflinga described, the guy being funnier, quicker with the jokes and basically outstripping my pace of game by completely taking over the conversational lead. In reflection, I'm not even sure this is a bad thing. As pooflinga pointed out, if the guy is being entertaining, from my opener, and the group is digging it, then I've essentially added value because I introduced t…
/r/seduction19/04/10 08:53 PM
1

Good point, like I said my instinct was to plow through, but that's what learning game is all about, correcting instinct.
/r/seduction19/04/10 08:46 PM
1

Ask something like "What's your schedule look like this week?" That way you aren't guessing which days she'll be available. Take her somewhere quiet and proceed.
/r/seduction11/04/10 04:42 PM
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I don't mean like he is avoiding eye contact, just that he always looks like he is paying attention to something else that is going on. It's almost as if he is about to "leave the set" as they say.
/r/seduction02/04/10 02:48 PM
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Quite honestly, if you ever feel like you are out of things to say you need more material. It's perfectly fine to open with "what's the most interesting question you've been asked at a bar." Just make sure you have a follow up question that is interesting, otherwise she will wonder what the point was. This is how I'd go: Ponce: Whats the most interesting thing you've been asked? Girl: Um, I dunno. Ponce: How about this; I have a friend who just adopted a three legged cat, but doesn't know what t…
/r/seduction28/03/10 02:37 AM
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Something else I noticed while looking through some of the other interviews of his. He almost always looks away from the interviewer while talking to her. The more beautiful she is the less he appears to pay attention to her. In a way I think this is an internalized law of game.
/r/seduction27/03/10 06:18 AM
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Admittedly, I'm new to the game, but holy hell, I've never seen anything like that in my life. I noticed him eyeballing her right away and obviously, so did she. I wonder, was she sticking in there because she was digging the stare-down + kiss attack? Or was she sticking in there due to job responsibility? Does that even matter why if she is sticking in there?
/r/seduction26/03/10 06:16 PM
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