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Explain - dude I’ve seen your post history and you’re in a dark place right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 09:57 PM
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Ayy good for you (and I genuinely mean that). I do agree that some guys are SOL but I’d say that those men’s expectations are very far out of line with what they have to offer, which is a large part of why they’re SOL.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 09:22 PM
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You say you’re low in these traits which shows me you have some sense of self awareness, which is already a sign that your social skills are probably better than you think. Have you ever considered that most of the conversations you’ve had with others just weren’t terribly interesting to you? Or is it that you just genuinely prefer solitude instead of being around others? Either way I’m sure there are many women similar to you, it’s just a matter of whether you feel it’s worth it to pursue them
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 08:54 PM
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I don’t see bluepilled people saying this either though.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 07:49 PM
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Okay. So I saw this comment and I’m not trying to make fun of you or anything - I don’t think you understood the point of the original comment, which is that men who advise men in your position to “just hire a hooker” usually don’t think women have anything to offer besides sex. If you have a crush on a girl, you can approach her, but you have to have something to offer yourself if you want a shot.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 07:46 PM
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What does this have to do with hiring a prostitute? Do you think the girl you have a crush on only has her pussy to offer and nothing else?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 07:01 PM
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Humans are social animals and it’s been shown that we live much longer when we’re in healthy, loving relationships. No you don’t “need” to date anyone, but as a counter to your question about rushing things: why are you putting it off - are you afraid of rejection or heartbreak? Do you not have any potential partners? No one is saying to get married at 18, but hey if you want to, go for it. Life experiences in dating have helped me a lot, especially in terms of conflict resolution in both my car…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 06:57 PM
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Exactly, men who say things like that basically hate women anyway, they’d never want a relationship because they’d find girlfriends to be “too annoying” or “needy”.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 05:57 PM
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Hiring a hooker is not an end goal for sexless men - it’s palliative care at best. Prostitutes only provide the intimacy they agree to perform within a set timeframe, but most of the sexless men crave an emotional connection and a partner. In that case, those men can benefit from therapy and eventually a matchmaker (preferably a woman) if they really want to throw money at the problem. Objectivity and guidance are their best friends. For the incels/blackpillers, they need a lot of therapy before…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 05:53 PM
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Plenty of people want families of their own, but I think the economics of raising kids is putting a lot of people off doing so. I think a lot of women think this is their “trump card” because the mentality is “well I make enough money to support myself AND the baby so screw you if this doesn’t work out anyway”. Kids also tend to ruin relationships - personally I think having them is miserable even if you have the money, so I’m childfree, as is my gf.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 04:31 PM
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Nah I fully expect anyone to be able to support themselves as an adult, and wouldn’t date anyone who couldn’t. My girlfriend is a partner, not a dependent. Many PPD women think they’re somehow better than others because they make more money, which is classism, same thing with PhD ladies on here - idgaf about how much school you’ve gone through, you can still act like an asshole. There’s common decency and a lot of y’all are just as resentful as the incels/blackpillers
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 04:23 PM
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Actually no, it’s because of this exact smug ass attitude lol Those women aren’t intimidating, they’re outwardly rude and inwardly, a bundle of insecurities
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 04:07 PM
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This sounds like some negging bullshit, but I will say that being a likeable person will take anyone pretty far in life. I would take the attention you get at face value - if you’re getting approached, you’re attractive, doesn’t matter if it’s your face, body, personality or all 3, you’re attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 04:05 PM
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Feel like most of the shit talking PPD women are this mediocre looking, so this has further cemented my beliefs
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 01:55 PM
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18 is an adult and I’d say 18-25 are prime years to be dating, especially if you’re in college/grad school, so maybe the ratio of men to women (40% men enrolled vs 60% women) in higher ed has something to do with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 01:43 PM
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When men and even hookup culture tell you that you "have to try to lock down a man by having fun early," I’ve literally never heard any men say this to women, ever. If anything, it’s other women who seem to tell women to have their fun and to never settle down unless it’s for the best.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 08:25 PM
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It’s the lunatic Redpillers and Blackpillers but yeah they seem to be the majority here
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 03:59 PM
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Oh same, I do a fair bit of bragging myself but I’ll also admit the areas in which I’m not perfect. And yes attractive women get approached all the time - this girl saying she only gets “starstruck eyes” but no one hits on her smells like BS.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 04:02 PM
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Many of them do lol Nothing new ever gets discussed
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 02:27 PM
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She also used to be a sex worker and is basically looking to get back into it lol I’m sure she looks okay but yeah, women on here exaggerate just as much as the men - Every PPD woman is a model with a PhD and a high paying career, every PPD man is a software engineer with abs who makes $300k/yr and can fuck 5x a day every day. The rest are incels and fat chicks /s
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 12:24 PM
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And each time it was a complete blindside - no indication of any problems beforehand? That’s pretty wild
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 12:19 AM
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Didn't stop women in my life from acting just as the Red Pill predicted. How so? Not trying to be condescending just curious as to what behavior you’ve seen lines up with RP
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 08:45 PM
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The answer they won’t give you is “I’m insecure and want attention and validation”, but this is par for the course for people in their early-20s, regardless of gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 12:11 AM
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IME women go about it differently, but still do it yes. This is the reason “weekends with the girls” have a reputation - I met multiple bachelorette groups who were actively cheating on their partners when I went to Nashville a couple weeks back. Many women seem to think men are ignorant to more subtle social cues and assume that, as women, they have certain social intuitions men don’t, but we can tell when something is off too. Also remember that women are socialized “approach” men differently,…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 04:56 PM
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I believe you 100% and understand this has been your experience as a straight woman. I’m just saying that attractive people, both men and women, tend to get this type of attention. I think a lot of men are unhappy with how their wives’ bodies change after pregnancy and thus they think they can covertly start an affair while she is occupied with child rearing, but I’d say there are also a lot of women who settle for “safe” partners and then look for something on the side when they’re also bored i…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 03:03 AM
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This is true for attractive people in general - random girls DM me on Instagram in spite of my profile being set to private, my girlfriend’s handle linked in my bio AND me telling them I’m in a relationship as soon as they start to say anything flirtatious. Men have a reputation among women for being horny and lacking morals, and rightfully so, but many women openly admit that they find married/taken men attractive. Many men point out how much attention they get from other women when they’re in …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 01:00 AM
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0% of relationships - romantic, familial, or platonic - outlast death.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 12:54 AM
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Honestly circle jerking is about as close as anyone can to “winning” on this sub. If the post was “Q4M: On a scale of 1 (not at all) to 10 (life threatening), how dangerous is dating for women?” - I’d expect the same type of responses.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 02:50 PM
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Madea’s Family Reunion?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 02:08 AM
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There was also a a redditor who’s wife stabbed their kids to death when he divorced her for cheating. U/jasongoestohell was the name I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 07:43 PM
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Yep, it’s on both sides too, you can hit them with as much logic and facts as you want but they’ll stick their fingers in their ears and go “lalalalala”
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 03:24 AM
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Lol exactly it’s always that we’re “insecure” or “can’t handle it” when they get called on their bullshit
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 11:52 AM
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Because men are forced to approach in abundance Even if you want “easy” sex, I still don’t get why you would approach women you’re not attracted to. Is it really worth it just to say “doesn’t matter, had sex” if you don’t even think she’s good looking?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 08:36 PM
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Actually they wouldn’t, because then men would become attracted to women based on their personalities, as PPD women all claim to have done with their partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 03:29 PM
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This is either a troll account or she has mental health issues that have been unchecked for years, because she is part of a psychiatry denial group. She’s also said to “kill all men” multiple times and frequently talks about violence towards men but the comments get deleted or removed. Just don’t even bother with this person lol I reported her
/r/ExRedPill10/05/22 10:44 AM
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The irony of her accusing men of being violent rapists and commenting “kill all men” on random ass posts just shows the cognitive disconnect.
/r/ExRedPill10/05/22 10:42 AM
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This is either a troll account or she has mental health issues that have been unchecked for years, because she is part of a psychiatry denial group. She’s also said to “kill all men” multiple times and frequently talks about violence towards men but the comments get deleted or removed. Just don’t even bother with this person lol
/r/ExRedPill10/05/22 12:05 AM
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I clarified this further down - I’ve seen PPD men do what you’re taking about here on other posts, I just didn’t really see it on this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 11:19 PM
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Preschool Director, I’m the only man lol
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 10:17 PM
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I know they’re not the same as Redpill and I don’t think you’re an incel, but I do see a lot of blackpilled/incel responses on PPD
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 06:20 PM
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Can’t say I’m motivated to collect that many data samples from this sub, code, categorize and then run stats on them lol But I get you
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 05:27 PM
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Yeah I’ve seen his posts on here more often lately, I don’t tend to agree (I disagreed on this one too), but I feel like the blackpilled/incel voices are the very vocal minority here.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 05:08 PM
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I mean as a guy it does suck to be on the receiving end of rejection, but at least you were honest, and the other dude also didn’t flip out and call you a bitch or anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 04:39 PM
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I’m not saying that PPD men don’t accuse PPD women of lying EVER, I’m saying with regard to this particular post, I don’t see the men in this thread saying “she’s lying”.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 04:35 PM
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I don’t usually see PPD men say “she’s lying” - usually they tell other men to keep an abundance mindset and to forget about her because she’s not interested. PPD women usually confirm this because they’ll say “If I like you I’m going to respond” and that a lack of communication means a lack of interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 04:24 PM
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For me, I was never more depressed and insecure than when I was pumping and dumping. I prefer being with one person in a happy, healthy relationship like I have right now. But to each their own
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 04:14 PM
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Very true, although I’ve also encountered many people who are like 20/10 because they look good but are also genuinely good human beings. Plenty of bitchass hotties too though, for sure
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 03:50 PM
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I live over in Jersey City but spend a lot of time in NYC, I completely agree with you. We’re in a populated area, lots of commerce in many different industries, good looking people are kind of a dime a dozen in this whole area (not that they’re any less attractive)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 03:32 PM
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Bigger population = bigger chances of there being hot people in said population. I really think this is location based but also sampling bias. Suppose I pass 100 women in a single day, if I see 5 attractive (or even if I see the same 5 attractive women every day - same office, commute, etc) it may seem like I see a lot of attractive women but in reality, it’s really only 5% of the women I saw that day. Also context - how many attractive women do you see at work, on your commute, at the gym etc v…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 03:29 PM
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Which city?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 03:19 PM
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This is revenge for all the PPD posts where women say they find only 3% of men attractive /s
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 03:19 PM
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I would disagree with using his approach to dating per se, and would say instead that you need to continuously seek to improve your own life in any and every way possible. All of our relationships are not permanent, but the longest relationship we have is the one with ourselves. Improving “yourself” in order to get women is not actually “improving yourself” because you are externally motivated by women. Instead, I found that making a great life for myself - getting an education, financial stabil…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 01:34 PM
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I don’t agree with AWALT, and I really only see it from RP on this sub. Women don’t want other women sizing up their partner. Immature teen girls might, but women do not. Again, generalizations about a whole group, and some women on this sub would disagree so you can’t just say “women don’t like this.” I agree that some aspect of that mindset can be immature, I also feel like people who can acknowledge that someone else thinks their partner is hot AND that their partner still wants to be with th…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 01:19 PM
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Spot on my feelings about it as a man - I have a girlfriend now but there was a time in my 20s that I wanted to focus more on my career/education/mental health and could have actually used a healthy mindset for men doing the same. Instead MGTOW gave us a bunch of unhinged neckbeards ranting about “gold diggers” and “whores” and INSISTING they loved their lives and were happy people. Shame because could actually be a good movement without all the misogyny/women-bashing
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 01:15 PM
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🥇 poor man’s gold for you madam. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind, some people just don’t get it
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 01:07 PM
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Either a troll account or probably has mental health issues that have been unchecked for years. Also already admits she’s a cat lady Christ that’s enough of this shit for today, why do I do this to myself
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 12:44 PM
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Women don’t care about how attractive their partner is to other women There’s no distinction here - “most women don’t care”, “some women don’t care, - so while I get that it comes off thick-headed, please be careful with your wording. You see men out in droves saying “not all men” for this exact reason because when you are lazy and say “men do x, y, z”, the men who don’t do whatever behavior you’re describing are going to take offense to being lumped in with the others. If men make blanket state…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 12:39 PM
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This is entirely your own personal biases that men either think and behave the way that you do, or that you think most men behave this way and you’re somehow different than the rest of us.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 05:07 PM
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Exactly - they think that other men think the way they do, and can’t wrap their mind around a man doing something for a woman without the expectation of something (usually sexual) in return.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 05:05 PM
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I’d actually consider myself a feminist in spite of what a lot of women on this sub would think. The problem is that there are so many different factions and differing views/beliefs across all of them, there is simply no way to agree with them all or have them agree with me. So I’ll disagree and say that fourth wave feminism does fight for and promote gender equality, but unfortunately the loudest of the group come from the aforementioned fringe groups within feminism itself, which tend to be ve…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 02:35 PM
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True, or the most fringe/unreasonable from either side
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 09:07 PM
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Lol I don’t actually care, I’m just pointing out that you’re doing what women typically complain men do. But if you want me to make the distinction that all women don’t behave a certain way (which, I never subscribed to AWALT to begin with), I will. Yeah, alot of people be stupid. Dont know what makes you think stupidity’s a gender thing. I don’t think it’s a gender thing, but your argument is that fat dudes are the ones complaining about there being no thin women to date - more or less, be able…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 05:14 PM
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Yeah but only women get to be sex positive and sleep around, when men do it they’re sexist pigs /s
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 03:44 PM
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Okay - many of y’all still do this lol Amazing how offended you got that I didn’t make the distinction that it’s only “some women” who behave this way, but you’re the type of women who will call men fragile for responding “not all men” when you try to make blanket statements about men with no distinction that only “some men” do whatever you’re describing. Did he put those ideas in her head? Again - many men will be honest and say “I just want something casual” and the women who talk to them eith…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 03:42 PM
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If you pretended you were in a relationship where you clearly wanted pussy, yes that is deceptive. Which is why i said to not assume any sort of deception on the man’s part, because not every man needs to manipulate his way to sex. If he was honest that he just wanted sex, then she’s an idiot for getting upset. Exactly, but y’all still do this. There are deceptive men and ignorant women, and both of them eventually get butthurt from the consequences of their actions. Women start fantasizing a wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 03:22 PM
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Be deceived and being reject are two very different things and Im confused why y’all think its the same thing. You’re assuming some sort of deception on the man’s part, and I implore you to consider that there are some good looking men who are also honest. Women start fantasizing a whole ass relationship as soon as a guy they like starts chatting them up, the same way men think they’re going to marry a hot woman just because she paid attention to them for 5 minutes. Many women already assume “me…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 03:02 PM
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I don’t know where you guys get this notion that people deserve to get screwed over solely because they went after an attractive person. Most men have pursued and been burned by attractive women, so it’s likely a revenge thing for the RP men; I don’t personally think this though. My point was not necessarily that you deserve to get screwed over for pursuing someone who’s attractive, but that you have to realize that they have options and are under no obligation to give you anything or do anythin…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 02:45 PM
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Lol the first advice men get with regard to looking good is to hit the gym. Good luck finding a redpiller who doesn’t lol Only the blackpilled/incel guys aren’t hitting the gym/staying active because they think they’re getting nowhere with dating regardless lol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 02:24 PM
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“Just like I dont care about women complaining about being used for sex” I’m still waiting for someone to explain to me how those two things are equivalent. Women pursue attractive men who have many romantic options the same way men pursue attractive women with even more options. If you’re interested in people who YOU KNOW have way more options than you, you don’t get to complain if they have sex with you (which YOU wanted, because you wanted to be with this person) and then decide to be with so…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 02:22 PM
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Muscular men date obese women and like those women’s bodies, and there are women who like a man who is bigger and not extremely toned. It absolutely goes both ways even if its the exception for one overweight person to be partnered with a thin person; these relationships are definitely becoming more common as well. There are people, male, female and non-binary, who all have inflated senses of their level of attractiveness. By your same logic, if a woman doesn’t have a lot of money, she shouldn’t…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 02:11 PM
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Erectile dysfunction is often the result of other health conditions, including obesity, diabetes and heart disease. Considering more than 40% of Americans are obese, it’s no wonder instances of erectile dysfunction have increased. That said, most healthy men don’t experience erectile dysfunction as they get older - in studies the men who avoided ED as they got older, it was found that they were active, ate a healthy diet, and managed any underlying health conditions. Men who fit these criteria a…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 11:21 AM
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I’ll be 33 in a few months and literally just had to block some 22 year old e-girl on Instagram because she wanted to have sex with me. I get women shooting their shot in my DMs all the time, and women have come up to talk to me at bars/clubs too, so yes, it absolutely does happen. This is the same type of coping Redpillers use when they say women hit a wall at 30 and suddenly turn into undesirable crones.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 12:11 PM
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If you feel that we’re describing different issues, then I’ll end this here because neither of our answers would make sense in the context of our separate understandings of the discussion at hand. If you’re lonely, you don’t “need” a partner, but a desire for companionship is perfectly valid as are feelings of sadness that come with a lack of connection. Really just seems like you don’t think there are any men who want genuine connections and healthy relationships, and they are struggling to fin…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 07:25 PM
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I think you can understand that some people do not have positive relationships in their lives and are quite lonely, and it’s also possible that those people are decent human beings who treat others with respect but just cannot meet anyone. So while you might call those men “desperate”, again, you’re not even distinguishing between “I’m so fucking lonely I want to die” and “ahh if I don’t get laid I’m gonna die!” because you personally don’t care either way. But this is what men do when they writ…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 06:57 PM
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If y’all aren’t blinded by sex, stop being so desperate for it Your words, and it is a generalization that men are desperate for sex, which is also not true (though some are, yes)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 06:08 PM
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Okay well then don’t complain when men generalize about women lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 05:59 PM
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You’re proving OP’s point though, because you, like many other women, are just basing your beliefs on the worst of your encounters with men (not to say some men don’t do the same thing with women, because they do) and it’s this incredibly reductionist way of thinking. By and large women think “all men want is sex” and they also teach that to young girls, who then behave as though that’s true, hence you have OnlyFans, and young ladies who focus solely on their outward appearance and using sex to …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 05:54 PM
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The problem is men still need to generally approach women, and even if he’s being perfectly respectful and polite, YOU’RE assuming his intent is malicious or that he just wants sex, so then what? How is he supposed to even get his foot in the door? And there’s a huge difference between being lonely and being horny
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 05:45 PM
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Lol right because men don’t want companionship, or a healthy loving relationship, and because it’s totally the norm for women to approach men (I already know your approached your partner, you’re an outlier and we both know most women don’t give their number to men and ask them out, especially with how much women like you will complain about safety and men being creeps).
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 05:29 PM
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Yes, they’re called “my friends”
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 03:04 PM
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This is a lot easier to say when you receive an over abundance of sexual attention, which most women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 03:02 PM
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Oh by the way, since you shared this elsewhere ITT, he’s just a reminder that the web page say “Everyone is affected by sexual violence” in big bold letters for simple people such as yourself Edit: Congratulations, you’re ignorant af!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 11:14 AM
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Nope, having too much fun :) Still on Reddit though? Big yikes fam Edit: obviously you’re so fragile you needed to block me from seeing whatever profound patriarchy smashing opinion you thought you’d mic drop on me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 10:48 AM
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See? Can’t resist responding lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 04:11 AM
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I’m not denying that, nor am I trying to excuse catcalling or harassment.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 02:07 AM
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Lol it’s amazing that you’ll act like you’re so above this when I recognize your username solely from this sub because you comment as often as you do. Reddit is also really useful for a lot of the work I do, most people use social media every day, what’s the problem? Also interesting that’s you’ve kept up with my comments this long and are also trying to act like you’re not on here as often or so above using Reddit. “Yikes” how typical lolol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 12:11 AM
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I’m on reddit and this sub basically every day lol Sounds like your memory sucks just as much as your logic and arguments, this is a small community and I see the same people posting all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 11:19 PM
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“Lol you have a working memory, so lame! But my fragile ego can’t let you have the last word” You wish you were that important to me
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 07:54 PM
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Lol you wish I cared about your lame ass posts, I just know your MO. You did the same thing last time to try and deter me from responding “my post is blowing up, my fellow feminists need me but my pride can’t stop me from responding to a man I have to prove wrong because of my inferiority complex”. Poor strategy
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 07:24 PM
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Nah you just get so triggered so easily, it’s fun lol Your “arguments” are also really silly, just the same tired rhetoric over and over
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 07:22 PM
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Complains about me being in her inbox, but always has to have the last comment lmao You did this last time too - how long til you screenshot it so another one of your astounding posts can smash the patriarchy?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 07:14 PM
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K
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 07:00 PM
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What I don't understand is that you want to dictate how women should respond (beyond basic legal issues), but you seem to think you're entitled to the interaction at all. I don’t think anyone is entitled to your time or an interaction, but like I said, there’s basic decency and responding appropriately. I get that you may feel the need to be on guard all the time as a safety precaution, I’m just pointing out that there are men who aren’t doing anything wrong per se in approaching, some may not e…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 06:12 PM
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👍 I’m sure that’s why there are separate tabs that say “activity” and “messages” but I know reading comprehension isn’t your strong suit.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 06:05 PM
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Plenty of people like attention and validation, so while flirting/compliments may be annoying af to you and women like you, it’s not that way for everyone, especially people who usually don’t get that type of attention. Not trying to beat a dead horse but you’re making a lot of blanket statements, and this is kind of exactly what OP is talking about, that decent men will often get treated like shit by women just for approaching, even respectfully. I also understand you can’t know whether or not …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 05:35 PM
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Ah the old “men so defensive” routine. I hope you don’t work in software engineering with that logic, huge difference between a notification on a public comment on a thread like this and actually being in your inbox. But go off kween
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 05:26 PM
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Responding to comments isn’t being in your inbox, I haven’t and never would DM you. Sounds like you seriously need therapy
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 05:00 PM
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Interesting that you think I’m close minded but that all you took from what I wrote is that this is about being right - this is exact why I mentioned that this is a debate sub because you’re not contributing anything new to the discussion. I simply pointed out a statistic related to the one you brought up, but also pretty clearly acknowledged your pain and experiences several times and you’ve been on a tirade ever since. Seems like you need therapy if this is how you react to such situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 04:33 PM
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Correction: in general many women just like to be left alone, which is fair. But nobody is monster for saying “hi” and accepting that you’re not interested without protest.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 04:01 PM
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Oh I’m very open-minded, but you’ve demonstrated that you’re very closed minded yourself, especially in other interactions I’ve had with you. I’d love for some nuance or just something that isn’t “woe is me, women have it soooo hard”. And yet you’ll say that because I simply mentioned that men are also victims of sexual assault that I’m trying to make this the oppression Olympics or that I think men have it so hard, but that’s not it either. I’m just against people making blanket assumptions abo…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 03:50 PM
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There is nothing polite about bothering people you don't even know just because you feel like flirting. This is entirely your own opinion so we’ll agree to disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 03:43 PM
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Lol nothing you said is at all enlightening, to anyone
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 03:42 PM
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I just don't have much sympathy for people to try to chat up strangers and then get mad that their attempts aren't well-received. Probably because you’ve never had to be on the receiving end of it, and what’s unreasonable about being angry that your politeness is met with hostility? No one thinks you owe us your time, there’s just basic decency and reciprocity - I get having these feelings towards guy who won’t leave you alone, but just being mean by default to someone for saying “hi” isn’t Quee…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 03:26 PM
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It’s an epidemic when compared to the number of men murdered by women for rejection them And just because this crime is perpetrated by some men does not mean all men behave this way. But whatever, you’re set in your ways and not worth the time or effort engaging with. Healing to you ma’am.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 03:19 PM
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I’ve never heard of this either, but I have definitely seen several posts from women who said they were jealous of the attention that other women got from men even though they’re being catcalled and harassed, not that it makes any of that behavior towards women okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 02:54 PM
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What are those men supposed to do when even unattractive women treat them like shit?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 02:50 PM
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Lol so hyperbolic, and this is a debate sub - I acknowledged that women are sexually assaulted (several times) and pointed out that men are also, especially as a man who has been on the receiving of that from both men and women multiple times, so you’re actually being quite dismissive, but that’s fine. Are you offended by that fact or something, do women have a monopoly on victimhood? Certainly seems that way. It’s really just sad a state of things and no one wins - I’m in no way even denying th…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 02:42 PM
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Maybe you could try putting on your empathy pants I’d actually recommend this for you since you’re the one completely dismissing the fact that men are sexually assaulted too. I’m sorry for your experiences and I know that’s what’s influenced a defensive attitude/behavior for a lot of women. OP isn’t talking about creepy guys who are trying to harass women or can’t take no for an answer, he’s talking about actual decent dudes who will want to respectfully approach and won’t bother you if you’re n…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 09:42 AM
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Actual good men aren’t the ones getting pissed. Actually we are, because we get lumped in with all the guys who treat women like shit. I know this bitch-ass attitude routine definitely extends to everyone as a defense mechanism, but people like that often wind up being rude to people who otherwise meant them no harm. I’m sorry for your experiences and I know that’s what’s influenced this attitude/behavior for a lot of women. OP isn’t talking about creepy guys who are trying to harass women or ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 08:51 AM
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And yet less than 10% of men ever even attempt rape in their lives, not to mention how much sexual assault against men goes unreported because the police don’t do shit when it happens to us either.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 08:40 AM
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Women aren’t these perfect beings and treat men cruelly too, especially unattractive men, who are often humiliated just for approaching women, even in a respectful manner.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 08:32 AM
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Attention and validation.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 10:33 AM
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Lol anyone who wants to see what FDS users look like can just go to their garbage dump of an Instagram page and look in the comments sections. It’s literally a bunch of overweight single moms and unattractive young women. We already know how they behave
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 10:25 AM
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I get you, I’ve been called a misogynist and an incel on here just as often as all the Redpillers all pile on to call me a betacuck lol And yes location is absolutely a huge factor, I think too many men on here don’t have time/resources to travel around and gain different experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 09:18 PM
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Actually no, that’s not at all what I was going to say. You said you’d have to see it to believe it, I can’t actually show you, per se, just share my experiences. I’m in the NYC/NJ metropolitan area so my experiences can vary widely from wherever you currently live or have dated.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 08:26 PM
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I’m a Chadlite at best, none of my friends are gigaChads, and they’ve all done pretty well for themselves. Did you ever significant spend time in bars/clubs/party scenes?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 07:56 PM
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Exactly - it “doesn’t count” unless the women meet his standards, and if she’s 7+/10, then it’s bullshit and it never happened. I wonder if the people on this sub ever go out. I had a tall, good looking British friend in college who had to do even less than me because he was handsome and his accent is an absolute pantysoaker for American women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 07:52 PM
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Do you have good looking friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 07:18 PM
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So many people on here are absolutely delusional. I feel like I’m shouting into a void when I point out how many happy, average looking couples there are in the world, and that anyone on here can freely see these people in their everyday lives if they would just go tf outside.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 06:26 PM
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Dude I’m not even that good looking and I can remember several times that I’ve literally smiled at an attractive woman from across the bar and she came over to talk to me. So actually, you don’t even have to be the best looking guy in the room. You also seem to severely underestimate how bold/direct/horny drunk women are, and it’s not just “6/10 bar sluts”
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 06:23 PM
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Sounds more like you want financial security from the “city professional type guy” - marriage is no guarantee of commitment. Either one of you could leave, you’d just have the bargaining chip in court as a woman if you divorce
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 03:20 PM
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Lol I’ve read a few of your comments, literally everything you’ve said is in no way trolling, you just state your arguments/points plainly (although the above comment does come off as trolling). This seems like tone policing and labeling - as soon as someone disagrees with what you’re saying on this sub, you’re labeled RP/incel/Misogynist/ or alternately a beta cuck/BP/white knight etc, depending on which side it comes from.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 12:51 PM
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Exactly, we’re always an incel and/or a misogynist just for disagreeing with the women on PPD.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 03:51 PM
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They’re reactive for sure but also cognitively distorted. So many posts from both groups show exactly how self-sabotaging both ideologies/mindsets are, and the subs themselves have become more of a place for these people to vent than to actually learn anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 01:56 PM
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I think the safety aspect of it, as you mentioned, is a big part of it. Add to this that a lot of men (myself included) work out and try to get as fit as we possibly can to be more attractive, but it can also be really intimidating to be around someone so much bigger than you that it achieves the opposite affect. Also agree that men look at this from “would I have sex with her or not” whereas women would look at it from a more long term perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 09:28 PM
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I guess it’s sort of the connotation that so many women feel the need to say they’re not attracted to us, but I get what you’re saying. I think because women conceptualize attraction differently that men, the answers tend to skew a certain way as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 08:00 PM
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Appreciate your transparency, I’m also demi. For me personally, I find a lot of women to be physically attractive, but I won’t feel comfortable getting into the sexual side of things until I feel a good emotional connection between us. So while I’d be one of those people that said 20-25%, I’d align more with what you shared past those initial stages of attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 07:58 PM
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I get you but this is kind of a pot stirring post for this exact reason - for most women, their attraction is based on a number of factors besides physical qualities. That’s why we hear a lot of women say “he’s good looking he’s just not my type” - if he was good looking and a firefighter, maybe you like that men in uniform, come save me- type; maybe you like a femme boy influencer-type, maybe you want a femme boy firefighter - who knows??? You’re absolutely entitled to have your preferences, ev…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 07:20 PM
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There are quite a few adult virgin women who post to Reddit, so yes, I’d absolutely say so
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 05:48 PM
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Lol women love this question because they get to say how unattractive they think men are. The answers are always “0%” or some minuscule number. The ones who actually like men and say anything 20< will get treated like pickmes
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 05:43 PM
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I’m not angry about hypergamy because men do it too - we’re all looking for the hottest, coolest, most compatible partner possible. I just find it ridiculous when a woman who’s a 4/10 expects a guy who is 10/10 to approach and marry her because she “kNoWs HeR wOrTh” and thinks Chads care about her PhD. Hint: they don’t lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 04:03 PM
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I agree with you - I think RP/FDS both started with the right intentions, but they’ve devolved into toxicity and bitterness because of the people that populate those subs. I always tell people on this sub to go outside and actually look at the couples you see - plenty of average looking people happily dating one another and they have healthy, stable relationships. Not every man is an abuser, not every women is some gold digging harpy. The women on this sub seem to spend too much time looking at …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 03:58 PM
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Yeah he’s projecting - I was a preschool director for years, many of my students were wonderful but it absolutely made me want a vasectomy lmao My aunt was like OP’s, she was social worker, never married or had kids but helped a lot of people and lived a great life, I miss her very much
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 07:19 PM
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Exactly! Nothing wrong with having this as a boundary/preference, why be with someone who doesn’t share the same sexual values as you too? Good on you
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 07:07 PM
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Profound lol So glad you took a break from destroying the patriarchy by screenshotting comments from incel subs lol Really doing the lord’s work
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 06:56 PM
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Can you just fucking hurry up and make it? I have another post with much more important shit that's blowing up my phone and this is not interesting in comparison. So go to your awesome post - still needed to respond to me though huh? Lol And you didn’t change my view nor OP’s (proved his point if anything) so the onus is on you
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 06:01 PM
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Oh so you know you contradicted yourself, you just won’t admit it lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 05:39 PM
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How old is this person? Seems like something that would happen when you’re in college/close proximity to your peers
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 03:22 PM
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Oh but you are, and you have contradicted yourself several times - are you a feminist?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 02:34 PM
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Typical lol can’t even admit when you’re wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 09:46 AM
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Lol great discussion
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 01:50 AM
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But even assuming your world view, as I did quoting you, you’ve contradicted yourself. You’re not willing to take an objective stance on your own views, especially that “breaking social stereotypes” nonsense
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 01:17 AM
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It’s amazing I’d actually agreed with you on some things but when I point out blatantly illogical things you say or how you’ve contradicted yourself, you just double down lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 12:08 AM
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Nope lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 11:48 PM
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Aaaannnd we've circled back around to it being a personal decision that's nobody's business. It is but I’d still agree with OP and you haven’t changed my view that women aren’t shamed for the same shallow preferences men are. You fought tooth and nail over men’s height, a physical characteristic vs promiscuity, a behavior, which again, says a lot about who you are as a person and can very much impact a potential relationship with that person. So when y’all throw flames on men for not wanting a h…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 11:37 PM
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Jumping tall buildings in a single leap. And oh what a leap it was. Lol because you did the exact same thing in the very comments of yours that I quoted, I’m just throwing them right back at ya Institute for Family Studies.....yep. I made a mistake of citing them once too. Then I was informed they are hot garbage. So this is actually constructive and I’ll look into it and consider that going forward. Enforced female chastity has been a tool of female oppression basically since forever, so lookin…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 09:51 PM
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Yeah see, now I think you have me mixed up with someone else you're yelling at. Whoa whoa wait, so this wasn’t you? Women feel more protected and 'smol' with tall guys. Meaning short men can’t defend you from the tall men, who want to hurt you… I don’t want to date a short guy because there’s a good chance he's mad about it and will take it out on me at some point down the line …meaning the short men are also violent, therefore we’re all violent to you. Your words, not mine lol No. Just don't ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 08:55 PM
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Ah, you got so invested I just assumed you were. Lol you responded, do you struggle with reading usernames? Lol. No, you're not. There's volumes of whining and hand-wringing on this very sub about how every partner past after zero damages women while for men it makes them more desirable. Really? I spend plenty of time on this sub, lots of guys are perfectly okay with women having sexual partners. So that’s not helpful, nor is it true. Some men define excessively as "more than two". And where did…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 08:05 PM
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I'm very clearly not the one mad in this discussion. Riiight lol And I’m not at all mad, this is fun for me And, I'll remind you, it's your question in the first point. I responded to this: You should be shamed for being hypocritical. If men aren't going to save themselves for sex and are instead going to enjoy themselves, women should be able to as well. And I’ll remind you that you’re wrong yet again because I’m not OP LOL u/theogfrankcastle is No one is saying women need to save themselves fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 07:45 PM
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Hm. Sounds like women could change their behavior and not get so aggro when they’re held accountable for their past behaviors and be equally accepting of men of any height and judge them based on their character instead, since men are already accepting of women having sexual experiences
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 07:15 PM
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I can’t own up to my own shallow preferences so I have to demonize men who are shorter than me and fall back on the “men are the biggest threat to women” defense and play the victim again. Statistics proved me wrong but I had to straw man this argument because I can’t admit it Height is a superficial physical characteristic, promiscuity is a behavior that strongly correlated with divorce and infidelity Lol You can’t change your height, but you can change your behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 06:52 PM
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Lol not at all, because I don’t compare my current girlfriend to my exes. I don’t want to date a promiscuous person because there’s a good chance she will be unfaithful at some point down the line. I, on the other hand, am very comfortable with my sexuality as a demisexual, and have always preferred to only sleep with women to whom I feel a strong emotional connection. One night stands were never appealing to me and the few I had left me feeling very bad after the fact. If anything you’re the on…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 05:53 PM
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Lol also bullshit and I knew you’d say this! Look up the top MMA fighters like Jose Aldo, or even 5’7” Floyd Mayweather who’s fought people well above his weight class and never lost. Jake Paul is like 6’1” and 225 and 20 years younger and still got his ass handed to him by Mayweather last year. Height has nothing to do with a person’s ability to protect lol More stereotypes too, men only exist to serve and protect you? Lolol I thought y’all were so strong and independent You have a preference a…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 05:42 PM
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They’re both ridiculous in their own ways, but at least n-count has some logical reasoning as a preference - I’ve already given you the statistics on promiscuity, infidelity and divorce rates lol being “afraid of breaking stereotypes” because your male partner is shorter than you is such a joke, and it actually is shallow because you’re ignoring every other positive trait he might have based on appearance rather than behavior. Promiscuity is a behavior, thus it is a predictor of future behavior.…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 05:35 PM
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If a man won't date a woman who has an n count higher than 0-1, that's entirely his problem. Sure is, and it’s just as unreasonable as not dating someone who’s shorter than you because you’re “afraid of breaking stereotypes”. Plenty of religious folks stay celibate until marriage too, so at least the lifestyles line up. Same thing if it’s just two sexually inexperienced people who love each other. Height is completely shallow because it says very little about who you are as a person lol Promiscu…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 05:20 PM
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I like how the statistic is ‘people’ Are women not people? Don’t y’all want equality? If you won’t date a guy who’s shorter than you because you’re “uncomfortable breaking stereotypes” that’s entirely your problem - you don’t have an issue with his height, you have an issue with how you’ll be perceived as a couple, and you’re insecure about having people (probably other women) commenting on his height. His height is out of his control; conversely, the amount of sexual partners one has is largely…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 04:42 PM
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Past behavior is a very clear indication of someone’s character, don’t act like you don’t hold men to the same standards. So hypocritical lmao For people who reported four or fewer lifetime sexual partners, the rate of infidelity in the current marriage dropped to 11%, while for those who had five or more sexual partners the number was nearly double (21%) Please explain how dating a shorter man poses a risk to your relationship’s integrity - is it because you have to “break stereotypes”?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 03:56 PM
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Oh you don’t have to date anyone you don’t want to, but it’s complete bullshit that you’re falling back on “being afraid of breaking stereotypes” as a valid reason to not date short guys lol Just admit that you like taller guys, and it is shallow but at least it’s honest. Pretty stupid to avoid dating someone who ticks 9/10 of your preferences but you decide not to date them because they’re not the height you want lol Avoiding dating people who have slept around when that’s not your preference a…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 03:49 PM
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You’re seeing it shut down by men because Reddit is largely a male user base lol And it’s women who made the jokes but will also police men’s words and behavior like you’re the feds lol Can’t comment on that thing with Zelenskyy, but it is valid, don’t really see the issue there
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 10:08 PM
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Because it's in direct opposition to how they act. You should be shamed for being hypocritical. Agreed, but let’s hold women to the same standard. If a man commenting on your weight without solicitation its body shaming, but then so is a woman commenting on a man’s body without solicitation. The problem with the aforementioned example is y’all want to make fun of dad bods, small penises, baldness, etc, and believe it’s okay to say those things to men because we have “male privilege” but will cry…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 06:21 PM
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If we judge person's attractiveness on how often this person is approached/successfully approaches, then by this definition an average man is NOT equal to an average woman, because their objective success ratio is different. The quality of the partner also plays a factor too. Given that 31% of men ages 18-24 aren’t having sex, any man who is able to have a consistently active sex life is more successful than 1/3 of his peers even if he scraping the bottom of the barrel for partners. By contrast,…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 12:37 PM
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Ya know, that’s a great question! Try asking women lol Because this is exactly what men actually complain about. I know there are terrible dudes out there who expect a 10/10 when they themselves are a 3/10 at best, but there are women who do the exact same thing and turn down guys who are actually good for them. It all seriousness, I would say the people on this sub need to get out more, because there are plenty of average looking people with average incomes who are in happy, healthy relationshi…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 12:16 PM
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this makes no logical sense. Might not make sense to you but it’s still happening Dating is a free market game, which means that if women do not find these men their equal, then these mer are NOT their equal. No, it means those men are not desired by those women, but they could still very well be equal in terms of looks and social status. Again, this is my point - plenty of men have done their best to improve yet in spite of your insistence that men can improve their social skills and mentality,…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 10:22 AM
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That’s the problem though - the women who are matched with these men also think those men are beneath them. This is what men actually complain about - not being a neckbeard and expecting to marry a model - offering exactly what women expect in a partner only for those same women to act like they’re still better than you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 09:28 PM
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I think what also lends to this is the experience of being the first guy - attractive, has a stable career and goals/ambitions - and being constantly sidelined, but I’d also say OLD doesn’t exactly help.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 08:12 PM
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We have a long standing 50% divorce rate No we do not - divorce rate in US is 14.9 per 1000 marriages, the lowest since 1970s; average rate of divorce across all years and all regions was 4.08 divorces for every 1,000 married people. I’d actually agree that women overestimate their value simply because men have to put themselves out there and initiate/approach women, and thus risk rejection. There is no greater affirmation of one’s place than to be repeatedly rejected or to find repeated success…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 07:57 PM
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I did see the video lol But I agree that OP took a more flattering photo of her. The other women who were rated lower around 4-5 I mostly agree with, but by the same metric I’d still give this woman at least a 6-7.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/22 08:12 PM
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Women often say they “know men only want sex”, so standards are really irrelevant here since women are just going to have sex with the men they want anyway, and apparently men are always DTF making for little resistance. We live in the age of dating apps, OnlyFans and sex positivity - women would still sleep around because sex positivity in particular is part of the social zeitgeist (but only for women, men are not allowed to talk about or express any enjoyment of sex). If anything, we’re becomi…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/22 06:58 PM
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Because OP’s insecure wife was getting jealous of him rating attractive women honestly and also getting mad at him for giving a lower rating to the women he found unattractive lol I thought she was at least an 8 as well
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/22 11:38 AM
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The sex feelings (which, again, I have never had for a woman) spur a lot of commitment and so on Sex changes your relationship with a person - even in same sex couples. It’s an extremely intimate act that we only share with people we consent to, and that discrimination alone separates a sexual partner from everyone else in your life no matter how close you are with them. Just because someone is your best friend doesn’t mean living with them would be ideal for you, it likewise doesn’t mean you tw…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 05:16 PM
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I mean go date women if you want, I really don’t care lol but to say that there’s “not much of a stretch” between a close family member/friend and a long term romantic partner is a pretty wild assumption on your part
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 04:55 PM
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Sex completely changes the dynamic of any relationship, even when you’re FWB, a hook up etc. I know you hate men but you said it yourself that you’ve never been in a sexual relationship with a woman, so you don’t actually know. Plenty of people show their true colors after they’re comfortable in the relationship and it’s not gender specific.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 11:25 AM
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Actually millennial dads spend more time with their kids than any previous generation.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 05:52 PM
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Men complain about women and relationships (or lack there of) more. On this sub and platform (as in Reddit), yeah I’d probably agree with you; and I understand where women are coming from when they have legitimate complaints about how sexism does still persist as with reproductive rights (or lack thereof) among other issues. Where feminists often lose me is with tactics like “kill all men” and demands like “free the nipple” when women elsewhere in the world face issues systemic institution of FG…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 11:14 AM
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Men complain more. Way more. How and about what? Men complain about how annoying women are, but that’s about it - we’re raised to expect nothing but also take responsibility and be providers for women. Women take offense to everything and call it misogyny and sexism. And nobody is winning except for the rich lol If women were truly winning, we wouldn’t still be debating reproductive rights and all the other “oppression” you supposedly face…but even if those issues get resolved y’all will just fi…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 10:37 AM
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Yes and they will cherry-pick patriarchy theory to justify their hatred of men. It’s mostly a bunch of women with past trauma who use their misandry as an outlet, but they really just need therapy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 11:41 PM
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Exactly
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 11:27 PM
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All males think about is themselves and what will benefit them and make them look and feel the best in the world. Y’all are just mad because you need a woman’s help for that. We don’t need you for shit, we want relationships but the average woman thinks she’s entitled to someone way above her level. Men are realistic about relationships because we actually have to approach you nasty ass harpies. Men are not negatively benefiting from a patriarchal world!! You can’t argue that. “Negatively benefi…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 11:58 PM
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being able to go to a car shop or dealership and not get belittled, Good lord I wish this was the shit I had to complain about in life. Men are given the freedom to be selfish and women are just being conditioned from childhood to put others first. Men are conditioned to put women first and taught that we’re disposable. And have shrieking women who characterize us all in the same manner but then want to police everyone else’s language. I’m so tired of hearing men complain about women wanting to …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 08:13 PM
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Always the oppression Olympics lol What rights do men have that you don’t? I’m in the US Women also benefit plenty from society due to benevolent sexism, and y’all love to enforce double standards because you all want to hold onto all of the benefits you get from patriarchy that negatively affect men. So much projection too, y’all actually hate us but always paint men in broad strokes and say “men hate us, they have no feelings” because of what some shitty dudes from your past did, meanwhile the…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 06:36 PM
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All of women’s problems are always patriarchy or misogyny, y’all never acknowledge when you’re wrong lol Men are taught to always assume responsibility
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 04:18 PM
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So I do agree but to change your view: I’d argue that the posts and debates are only stale because this sub has the same people commenting/posting. Bunch of alt accounts for people from FDS/TRP to stir up shit and then delete the account until they come back for the next round. There’s room for nuanced discuss but people aren’t having it - most of the redditors here are just angry and want to say some rude shit about the opposite gender rather than learn anything. Some posts are interesting and …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 09:05 PM
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Financially
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 08:34 PM
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How so? Not doubting you, just curious
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 08:27 PM
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Hell let them drown in their own miserable lonely lives! Men are only mad cause it won’t benefit them if they do that cause they won’t get the sex they want. That’s it. This is just mutually assured destruction lol No one benefits, but what you’re telling me is that women would rather be alone and miserable so they can stick it to men everywhere, instead of actually accepting that they’re not as attractive as they thought they were and that their ideal partner may tick every other box but just w…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 07:09 PM
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Hate to break it to you but women aren’t obligated to lower or minimize their standards, (no matter how out of the world they may be) to accept a dick inside them they don’t want. I never said you had to do anything lol women looove to get on their high horse and act like everything men disagree with you about is misogyny or some attempt to control you. I literally don’t care who anyone dates/sleeps with, just stating that many average/unattractive women have inflated egos and think they’re enti…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 06:46 PM
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Forreal, does anyone make any friends organically these days??? And are people really so sexist that they need a certain amount of male/female friends, or exclusively just one gender or the other? It’s like listening to a bunch of little kids
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 05:48 PM
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Actually yes, because men are realistic - we know if we have to lower our standards and act accordingly, whereas women have been fed so much “Queen energy”/body positivity bullshit that they think they’re entitled to whatever they want even when they have nothing to offer - not only are they not good looking, but they are terrible people to be around. Just as many out of touch women who are in no position to be picky about their potential partners’ appearances as there as men in the same boat. W…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 05:40 PM
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My comment was prob misdirected at you, I apologize. But seriously! You’d think these people have never talked to an actual human or touched grass
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 05:10 PM
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Men and women’s sexuality are very different - women are turned on mentally, men are turned on physically. This is exactly why so many women find so few men viscerally attractive, because they need to see how the man interacts with people and conducts himself in order to feel completely attracted and want sex - it always takes time for women to build attraction save for the very narrow sliver of men who fit one particular woman’s archetypal partner. For a man, a woman just has to look good enoug…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 05:01 PM
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Lol sure, because someone who is violent is going to suddenly stop treating women as they have because you’re offended. Less than 10% of men even attempt rape in their lifetime, so yes, it is pretty irrational. Blanket assumptions about women are sexist, but y’all are hypocritical af because you do the same thing and won’t even police your own language/behaviors, just everyone else’s.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 04:47 PM
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Women are super annoying because they assume everyone is a rapist and abuser and are always scared of or offended by something
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 04:33 PM
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Dude go outside - plenty of average looking people, who don’t analyze human relationships as if they’re splitting the atom like the nutcases on this sub, are dating one another and living happy lives. Not everyone meets through OLD, not everyone is a cheating POS, but also not everyone is good looking and some people have a sense of self-awareness of that fact and date accordingly. Many of women on here want the 6/6/6 man who is simultaneously a badass and also a stable, caring provider, while m…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 04:30 PM
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Yeah I agree. I think porn is okay in moderation as long as it’s not hurting your sexual health (erectile dysfunction) or negatively impacting your relationship with your partner (i.e. you’d rather masturbate to porn than have sex with your partner, etc), but I’d say it’s best to avoid it in general, maybe once every so often.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 04:10 AM
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I mean…there are trans men who literally don’t have a penis and women still want them. Even if you have a micro penis, you can probably find a woman who likes you for you and with good communication, have a healthy sex life. Is any of that easy? No, and if that’s your situation you do have a steep hill to climb, but we can only play the hand we’re dealt. Might as well do the best you can, and try to have a sense of humor about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 03:59 AM
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FDS swings heavily against porn and sex workers, and their Twitter account has shared some transphobic stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 12:57 AM
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Exactly, much more level-headed (arguably) less biased advice on that sub; I do see that some fringe RP dudes and FDS/swerfy-terfy women will throw their shitty opinions into the mix occasionally, but those people always seem to want a reaction and aren’t the majority on that sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 04:49 PM
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If you’re ugly and have a bad attitude/personality, you’re just doubling down on being unattractive, so it never helps - then you don’t even have friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 10:52 AM
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It just doesn’t fit - I’m not even saying that everyone who is good gets their ideal partner, I’m saying to have a good life as a baseline, and that people with good attitudes and personalities don’t have nearly as much trouble dating. And I’ll stand by the fact that there are guys who look just like you and earn just as much, if not less even, and they manage to get laid. I could argue that you’re guilty if confirmation bias in that your just cherry-picking info out of context to fit your argum…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 12:21 AM
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Y’all love throwing this phrase around but provide 0 context
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 10:34 PM
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You say you’ve done everything I’ve advised but disagree that attitude and personality are huge factors in how successful one is in dating, so yes I’m going to repeat myself since you’re missing a key component of the equation. Being in the headspace you’re in creates a confirmation bias because you’re always looking for evidence that things are so terrible. The reality is very few people, men and women, have it very easy in dating. Celebrities wouldn’t divorce so much if it was. Either way I wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 05:20 PM
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I see who gets sex and relationships. literally all the coolest people I’ve meet happen to have a older boyfriend working on his masters like bro. Kind of proving my point here lol I hang out with boxers so it’s a interesting mixture of personalities oddly enough my close friend group has never had any fights lol. This is why I disagreed with your first comment, because boxers/bjj dudes are supposed to be “savage”, and yet you’re telling me here that they’re not getting laid. I fall into the for…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 04:14 PM
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The issue isn't money, it's looks. If these women were hot, guys wouldn't mind that they also have jobs. Unfortunately I agree. Could also be that some career women are miserable to be around because they’re just like career obsessed men. And will never make real money. They're just Beckies with an office job. Not entirely true, but the career women who look good are just as rare as GigaChad.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 03:53 PM
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How does this give a false sense of hope when I’ve pretty explicitly advised that one improve their life as a single person without any expectation of being in a romantic relationship? This is exactly why I said to prioritize your career and also to learn to be a good person - because then you’ll actually keep people in your life and build some sort of network. Being a bully/aggressive isn’t the same as being assertive, and women smell a bad attitude like it’s dog shit on your shoe. Trust me - I…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 03:33 PM
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How healthy are those relationships and how long do they last? It sounds to me like you haven’t ever truly met a magnetic person who was not only attractive to women but also respected by the men in the room. You don’t earn respect being a bully, you just breed resentment which eventually turns everyone against you. Remember that times are changing and performative (“toxic”) masculinity is largely being rejected by both men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 03:16 PM
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It only makes you bitter if you go into the process expecting a perfect partner at the end of the road. There are no guarantees in life, but being the type of person others want to spend time with, which also comes with being a good person, significantly increases your chances of having quality relationships and friendships. And as I mentioned in my advice, having a good life while you’re single gives you a good baseline to return to in the event relationships don’t work out. Every relationship …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 02:15 PM
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Sounds like you were expecting some silver bullet to solve your dating woes, or you expected me to say something that jibed with your worldview and since it didn’t, therefore it isn’t “profound” (to you). Either way nothing you’ve shared here is of any value, maybe your life would improve if you didn’t have this attitude.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 11:46 AM
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Really? You have statistics on any of this?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 01:48 AM
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It seems you either didn’t read my entire comment, didn’t pay attention when I literally wrote “women fear for their safety around men”, or deliberately omitted that part so you could frame my advice as though I’m encouraging this person to ignore social cues and consent, which I’m not. “Brush off any dismissive/rude attitudes” doesn’t mean keep hitting on people who aren’t interested, it means that women are often on guard around men, and you should “brush off” any attitude a strange woman give…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 01:27 AM
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Okay, so why am I always hearing about how difficult it is for men to have casual sex, why do I always read comments about “divorce rape”, and have you ever visited r/survivinginfidelity? So many stories of people cheating then their affair partner dumps them, and how long do you think anyone can keep a lifestyle like that going? Everyone ages, you’re not staying young and attractive forever. And if those guys always win why is it that they don’t just have open relationships? We both know it’s b…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 09:56 PM
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Your original comment was addressing guys who "bitch and moan about how terrible dating is." My original comment was that dating is not that bad and that adjusting your attitude will yield a lot of positive results. The men you're describing just now are NOT that. They're the ones getting what they want. They're the winners in all this. I’d actually argue that they’re not winning - those men lose everything when they’re found out. Any enjoyment is short lived and extremely stressful - all the de…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 08:50 PM
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Why is it, then, that so many women on this very sub talk about choosing hot guys who are terrible people because at least they’re hooking up with someone who looks good? And so many women talk about how they got involved with men who were keeping their marriage a secret - those guys aren’t getting laid? So yes, there are plenty of terrible people who get laid and their partners cut them off when they find out who they truly are. Also plenty of people who stay in shitty relationships too.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 08:31 PM
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My advice is to prioritize your future pursuits/career/goals first and foremost. A common saying is “have 3 hobbies: one that pays you, one that keeps you in shape, and one that you enjoy” - ideally have a career that you like, which also affords you time to do the things you love outside of work. So far as adjusting attitudes: generally speaking, women fear for their safety around men. Approach them knowing that much of their behavior, especially that tough girl “boss bitch” attitude, is a fron…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 08:24 PM
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The two very much mix up - if you aren’t a good person others will see through it at one point or another, and there goes your relationship. Contrary to popular belief, women actually want a good guy, and that can mean that he is both understanding/empathetic but also assertive and not a door mat. How can one can have a loving, stable relationship without also being a good person?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 07:31 PM
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Totally agree with you - yes it’s a lot easier if you’re hot, but dating really isn’t that bad. I’m considered “good-looking” by most of my friends and had a lot of trouble with dating in my early/mid 20s, meanwhile friends of mine who were shorter, didn’t have abs, interesting hobbies, etc. all did far better than me. Thankfully I went to therapy, changed my attitude, and by my late 20s dating felt like shooting fish in a bucket. Every guy on here who bitches and moans about how terrible dating…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 06:07 PM
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Love how women are so strong and independent but the minute anyone disagrees with them, it’s misogyny, “small dick energy” (because that’s not a body shaming double standard /s) and “men hate us so much!” I encounter that behavior so much on this sub - I can support feminism but still disagree with aspects of it, including tactics like “men are trash”. Feminists are always shouting about how “feminism isn’t a monolith”, so why is it that I can’t offer any nuance, other than because I’m a man? An…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 03:52 PM
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Some people need to be hit with the truth straight up, for sure, but I think there’s a certain amount of tact involved though. Too many people want to just be mean and disguise it as “meaning well” or “just being honest” when they know exactly what they’re doing, and it is emotionally abusive. You could just as easily say “you’re very meek and I don’t find that attractive, I’m attracted to more assertive men” - if the dude is already depressed, is using harsh language going to actually help him,…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 04:32 PM
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Exactly, and kids also like the freedom of being away from mom and dad, especially as they start to make friends their age.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 03:47 PM
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Lol nope, everything is just vague posturing on “the true nature of men” without actually making any clear and concise point, probably because you’re too afraid to actually state your claims plainly and defend them
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 03:28 AM
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More smug self-righteous bullshit
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 01:32 AM
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Oh get over yourself, you want assume what I’d tell my hypothetical daughters? Lol I would tell any young person, regardless of their gender, to be safe and have fun, that they should focus first on getting a good education so they can develop a career in a field they enjoy that supports them long term. We are all vulnerable to violence in different forms, and sometimes the people closest to you will be the ones to hurt you. Are there some men who rape women? Yes, there are. There are people who…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 08:39 PM
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You want all women except your kin to lower their guard around men. What’s with these blanket statements and assumptions? You don’t even know me lol The important thing is for every woman to learn the generalizations, nuance comes second. I see so you’re qualified to speak for every other woman? Guarantee that's what you'll teach your daughters too Nope I’m childfree for life Nuance is important but it doesn't save lives and prevent trauma. Actually it does, because without nuance there is no pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 08:21 PM
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Yes but you know that women and feminism aren’t a hive mind though right?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 08:16 PM
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Lol everyone on this sub has a some smug ass response instead of actually defending their views
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 10:53 AM
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I want to be clear that I can believe that not all men are misogynists and that you probably aren't one, while still holding the view that you're an outlier and most men are, whether implicitly or explicitly. You can hold this view and adjust your language from “men” to “some men” or even “most men” in your case. We can adjust to “they/them” pronouns and change our language all these other ways feminists demand we do: would just some differentiation when it comes to your perceived oppressors com…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 12:08 AM
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Why would you think it's appropriate to ignore my entire story because I didn't say "some". I’m sorry for the horrible things people have done to you but I didn’t “ignore” your story - you took offense to what I commented to another person on this sub after she made a blanket statement that “men are misogynistic”. I was jumped multiple times in high school and robbed at knife point when I was 13 - I don’t stereotype people who are the same race as the people who attacked me, and it wouldn’t be r…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 11:44 PM
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Being bitter about women not wanting them sexually does go hand-in-hand with misogyny. A lot of men resort to misogyny when they aren't wanted sexually. You just proved my point. Men aren't listening. They haven't been listening. Men tune you out when you characterize them all in the same manner. It’s not “some men are trash”, it’s “men are trash”; it’s not “kill misogynists”, it’s “kill all men.” So while I understand your assumption of misogyny and violence by default as a form of self-preserv…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 01:34 PM
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Men are misogynists so when women are victimized by men, men don't offer empathy the first thing they say is, in what way did this whore deserve it? Why all these sweeping generalizations? Its never “some men are misogynists” or even “many men”, its always “men are all x,y, and z” and stereotypes that men are all horrible, but “women aren’t a hive mind” “feminism isn’t a monolith” - it’s such hypocritical bullshit So many women on this sub assume that most men are ugly and therefore misogynistic…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 03:56 PM
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Especially if you’ve been working on yourself and are otherwise “doing everything right”, every rejection can feel like a death knell.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 05:53 PM
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I did actually agree with you in part, that’s why I mentioned “what’s beautiful is good”, the halo effect, etc. because it’s true across the board for both men and women
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 05:18 PM
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Understood and I’m not trying to just give you a hard time, but if you’re going to make certain claims, even in conversation, you should be prepared to have them challenged when others disagree; I expect as much in return for the things I put here. I’m sorry if my comments came off as aggressive or unnecessarily argumentative. When you say “y’all hate fat women for being fat”, you’re grouping me in with men when I don’t behave that way. I know women don’t want men making broad claims about them,…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 04:55 PM
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Actually no, I commented that men target fat women online, and that the type of person the other user was describing, while insufferable, are the minority of women. You went on a tirade about skinny women and gold diggers that had 0 to do with my comment, then made a bunch of broad claims about how terrible men are, and how women never approach men (then moved the goalpost to “attractive independent women” never approach men) and about how women act; I responded with sources that backed up my cl…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 04:28 PM
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And you’re so stuck in these stereotypes about men and women that you don’t realize how close minded you sound. Why get into debate with me if you know we disagree? You used anecdotes about your strong successful female friends never approaching men, but if I tell you about attractive women who have approached me at bars and clubs (and they have), you’ll just say I’m lying or that it’s an outlier. And it’s a cop out because to you those women are “pickmes”, but what right do you have to judge th…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 04:07 PM
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Even the most independent women don’t walk up to men and ask for numbers. If they’re so independent they can’t pursue what they want? They need to wait for it to come to them? Doesn’t sound very independent to me, sounds risk averse In fact, the most independent women I know are powerful and know their worth. They would never do such a thing. It is beneath them. They would rather be by themselves than approach a man for anything. They don’t need them. Did you forget that part? Right so you speak…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 03:50 PM
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I don’t think anyone has gone out of their way to research a study about this because it’s common sense. Women traditionally don’t approach men Times are changing, women are more independent than ever. so they have no reason to treat an average or unattractive man differently. Oh really, you don’t have to be more cautious around us? You said it yourself that you’ve been catcalled and harassed, and you don’t change your behavior? Article was not helpful at all, that’s literally pop psychology wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 03:29 PM
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honestly don’t care enough about the subject to pull up statistics and all of that jazz. Then don’t go trying to say something is a fact if you can’t back it up, all you’ve given are anecdotes and assumptions. Someone got more fit and people thought they were more attractive?!? WOW!!! Who would have thought such a thing could happen????? If I’m “objectifying” myself it’s because I’ve seen misogynistic men treat women differently. If men in society weren’t so fucked up I wouldn’t even have to mak…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 03:10 PM
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It’s well known that men only treat women they find attractive with the upmost respect. This topic has been discussed on here many times before. Just because a topic was discussed here doesn’t make it fact - give me actual statistics and provable numbers, because I got my stats on rape from the NSVRC which is very reputable. So it’s not a fact at all, you just think the small sample size of men on this sub makes your assumption true lol “Women are wonderful” effect and “what’s beautiful is good”…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 02:26 PM
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Women don’t treat people less human because they don’t find a guy attractive. A lot of men would disagree with you lol And I don’t mean “she won’t have sex with me, what a bitch”, I mean “ I asked you a question about the homework, why are you being an asshole”, and I already know safety will be your argument, but less than 10% of men in the US even attempt rape (1 in 16). Your entire comment is a bunch of unprovable platitudes, you just sound bitter and angry. You assume the worst in men and su…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 01:56 PM
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People are insufferable because of how they act, not their weight. My comment was that some men target fat women online especially with bullying, and that the stereotypical “obnoxious fat woman” that was described is a small minority. There are insufferable skinny women too but you put up with their shit because you’re attracted to them. Many people would argue that women do the same thing with men they find attractive. “What is beautiful is good” tends to be consistent human behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 01:26 PM
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Most of it is that these dudes target fat women online, or use fat women as a whipping post for everything. I have encountered the type of women this guy is talking about, and yes, they are insufferable but they definitely aren’t the majority.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 12:50 PM
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Honestly I’m sure you’re fine, like I said, I think a lot of people tend to see “FDS” and automatically get on the defensive; I know I have.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 06:05 PM
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Exactly, you can’t really get a person’s tone through text on a screen. I tend to be very straightforward, which I’ve realized can come off as rude, rather than efficient, so especially in text, I proofread and do my best to consider what the recipient will see and think when they read whatever I sent/posted. Then again, some people will always be offended no matter how polite you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 04:36 PM
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You can be confident without being arrogant; I think the way you present yourself can have different effects on different people. This depends on 1) your audience and what they consider to be confident vs arrogant and 2) whether they are men or other women. I realize that is sexist but it is absolutely a double standard women face. Sometimes reading text can come off a lot more arrogant to the reader than is actually intended, and I think aligning yourself with FDS is automatically going to put …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 04:20 PM
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You’re one of those last word types but couldn’t actually make a point lol nobody moved the goalpost, you’re just wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 11:59 AM
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Crickets lol Just want to say I always appreciate your insight u/decoy88 , I find we tend to agree on a lot of things
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 09:24 PM
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It’s bullshit because being nervous doesn’t mean you have nothing to offer. Those are two separate things. Where was the goalpost moved?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 03:21 PM
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I asked the same thing lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 03:20 PM
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Lol you still didn’t change his view, and you didn’t prove him wrong either, you just said he was moving goalposts, which he wasn’t. Your comment didn’t even challenge OP’s view. “Interlocutor” lol Don’t use words you don’t understand when you can’t even prove me wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 03:02 PM
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Explains a lot lol tAkE dA L hOmiE
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 03:00 PM
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Lol what are you 12?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 02:56 PM
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Doesn’t look like you changed OP’s view so I’d say you failed lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 02:56 PM
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I followed this thread yeah
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 02:51 PM
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Lol you’re so desperate to think you’re right
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 02:51 PM
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This isn’t moving goalposts lol You’re really arrogant
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 02:42 PM
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It’s bullshit in the sense of “bringing nothing of worth to the table” - a guy can have plenty to offer and still fail at approaching because he’s nervous, especially younger guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 02:42 PM
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Lol of course it’s doesn’t make sense to you, because then you’d have to admit that you’re wrong Just because you don’t think Colin Jost is attractive doesn’t mean he’s “bland, cookie cutter” etc - he’s just not your personal preference, and not everyone feels the same way. A lot of people find him to be attractive. If you think some dude named Bob is hot but most people think he’s ugly, that doesn’t make Bob any less attractive to you, it just means everyone else has different personal preferen…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 06:55 PM
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Actually has a lot to do with you because you don’t find him attractive, and that’s your personal preference; other people would disagree. Likewise, some of the people you find to be attractive may not be attractive to everyone else, and some people may say the person you think is hot is “normie looking bland, cookie cutter” etc. instead. Doesn’t make Colin Jost or whoever you fancy any more or less attractive, you just have different personal taste and preferences. Also last time I recalled, Co…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 04:20 PM
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Lol whatever you say
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 04:01 PM
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He’s essentially saying “who are you to judge” - which, fair, you’re entitled to your opinion, but it’s so common for people to put down celebrities’ appearances (especially if they’re considered good looking by most people) since it comes off as “punching up”.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 03:57 PM
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Figures you post to FDS lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 12:13 PM
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Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 01:22 PM
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I don’t see the difference between having sex with 1 and 5 people then, both fall below the global average of 6.2 partners and are hardly excessive. Change my mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 11:55 AM
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Subjective and that’s monogamy, not chastity. Talk about non-arguments lol If someone is married for 10 years, then widowed and they remarry after their spouse dies, that person is promiscuous?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 11:19 AM
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And so why is that significant? I don’t see any difference between 1 and 2 partners, you’re not a virgin anymore so it doesn’t even matter by religious standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 01:37 AM
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So what about having 2 partners makes a person promiscuous?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 01:03 AM
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I already answered that several times, your inability to count or comprehend is on you. You haven’t refuted any of my arguments nor have you made any of your own. If you don’t see a difference, how many people does a person have to have been with for you to consider them promiscuous?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 12:17 AM
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“I don’t see the difference” is just ignorance - how is there no difference? One is clearly much larger than the other. You haven’t articulated a single point so you’re not convincing me there isn’t a difference, anyone who can count knows the difference between 5 and 20, which I told you was 15. So again you’ve made no argument and just want me to jump through a hoop for you. Keep trying
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 11:15 PM
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Oh she big mad now lol “I don’t have to explain it” means you have no reason or you’re too afraid to share your reasoning because you know I’ll respond to each point. So you’re the one making the non argument, you have literally no argument at all, and your inability to see a difference doesn’t negate the difference existing.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 11:09 PM
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It’s very smug - the question was “At what number of sexual partners would you consider somebody ‘promiscuous’?” If you can’t understand the difference between 5 and 20, especially in the context of the question, maybe retake math and reread the post. Someone who’s has only 5 partners by age 40 has had less than 1 sexual partner per year, while a person the same age who’s had 20 partners could have slept with 1 new partner each year for the past 20 years. There’s a world of difference between th…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 11:05 PM
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Smug lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 10:54 PM
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The difference between 20 and 5 is 15.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 10:51 PM
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You’re genuinely wrong. At the very least, you recognize one number (20) is significantly higher than the other (5), so yes, there is a difference regardless of how large that differential seems to you. Just because you “don’t care” about someone’s n-count doesn’t mean you can’t recognize promiscuous behavior or what an excessive amount of sexual partners is, even by your own subjectivity. Maybe in your case it’d have to be hyperbolic and someone will have had to have slept with hundreds of peop…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 10:04 PM
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Old English nō, nā (adverb), from ne ‘not’ + ō, ā ‘ever’. The determiner arose in Middle English (originally before words beginning with any consonant except h- ), reduced from “non”, from Old English nān (see “none”)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 06:42 PM
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Its subjective dude. That means if it matters to you, if doesn't have to matter to me. By your standards the dofference between 5 and 20 partners may be consequential, but it does not mean anything of note to me. They may as well have told me how many packets of crisps they've eaten. I know how numbers work Doesn’t really seem like it if “subjectively” 5 and 20 are the same to you; I get that your point is that you don’t care about the number, but if someone told you they ate 5 bags of crisps in…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 05:50 PM
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maiden has always meant virgin, Maiden is derived from the Proto-Indo-European root “maghu” which just meant “young person” of either sex. unmarried meant virgin People have been having sex out of wedlock for all of human history, so this means many “virgins” have had sex but never married.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 05:23 PM
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The word 'virgin' derives from a Latin root (virginem, nominative virgo) meaning "maiden, unwedded girl or woman", somewhat equivalent to "young lady" as an alternative to "puella" meaning "girl". The meaning of "young woman in a state of inviolate chastity" is recorded from c. 1300.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 05:09 PM
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Lol I feel the same way about you. There’s no difference between someone who’s only had 5 sexual partners and someone who’s had 20 sexual partners? That is such nonsense lol And this does come off as gaslighting - you’re trying to deny reality in an attempt to have me question the very definition of “promiscuity”. Maybe in terms of a person’s ability to do their job, manage their life and finances, etc, the number of sex partners you’ve had “doesn’t matter”, but in dating/relationships it absolu…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 04:41 PM
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Exactly! If you’ve had 20 different partners by age 20? Yes, that is promiscuous. But if You had 20 sexual partners by age 30? Even if you didn’t lose your virginity until you were 20 years old, that’s ~2 new partners per year. Now if 5 of those partners were in one night/weekend, there may be an argument to be made, but that’s usually not the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 04:39 PM
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Actually there are about 15 partners’ worth of difference, and at least 15 different life experiences (via being sexually intimate with another person) between those two people. You can’t tell me that someone who has had sex with only 5 people is no different than someone who’s slept with 20, that’s literally absurd lol This comment just comes off as gaslighting or a cope to deal with dissatisfaction with the number of partners one has had. Promiscuity does say a lot about people - there are hea…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 04:27 PM
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there isnt and there never has been, its always been binary--virgin, ot virgin. “Virgin” originally meant a woman who had never been married. “Promiscuous” by definition is is used to describe someone who has many transient sexual relationships, or can be used to describe an in selective or indiscriminating approach (such as one’s sexual partners). Having sex with one person no longer makes you a virgin, but hardly makes you promiscuous, even if the decision to have sex was made hastily. Repetit…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 04:25 PM
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Exactly - how the person carries themself is more indicative of promiscuity, because even someone who has had very few partners can still be constantly seeking sex - they’ve simply been unsuccessful in finding multiple people who wants to sleep with them. Just because someone hasn’t had a lot of partners doesn’t mean they aren’t promiscuous, would always remain faithful in a relationship, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 03:48 PM
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I think the person’s age factors in - supposing that woman were 25 and had sex for the first time when she was 18, that’s less than 2 partners per year, which I’d hardly consider to be promiscuous myself. Then again, she could have racked up 4 partners in a wild weekend out, would that make her more promiscuous even if she had the same total amount of partners? Well I’d say that depends on the pattern of that persons behavior - if it happened only once and they regretted it and never repeated th…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 02:59 PM
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the idea that theres some difference between 5 and 10 or 20 is just bizarre to me By your logic, there wouldn’t be any difference between some who slept with 5 people and someone who slept with 20. I’d hardly consider someone who’s slept with 5 people to be promiscuous, as the average number of partners for American men and women is ~7.5, so that’s even below average, but likewise 10 is above average and could by definition be considered promiscuous. The number of partners one has had is persona…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 02:53 PM
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Almost like men aren’t a monolith and are actual individuals, like women
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 12:09 PM
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That's still a sheeple to me. Men who prefer a woman who shaves being “sheeple” (to you) doesn’t change the fact that those men aren’t attracted to women with body hair and trying to shame them for their preference isn’t going to make female body hair more acceptable in American society. It’s also not going to make those men suddenly date women who don’t shave. There is only so far influence can go. You have your own brain. It's up to you to use it. We can’t help hormones or ingrained sexual pre…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 01:28 AM
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You’re making an awful lot of assumptions and painting men in broad strokes - would you want a man doing the same about women, and speaking for you on top of that?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 01:22 AM
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When in reality the average man doesn't care on a visceral level. He just pretend to dislike it cause everyone does.. Are you a man?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 01:02 AM
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Gotta disagree with you - some men don’t care, but a lot of men who grew up seeing women with clean shaven bodies were more or less culturally indoctrinated to find that attractive. And it’s really not as simple as choosing to decide body hair on women is attractive to you, just the same way you wouldn’t want a man who is balding/out of shape/pick-your-unattractive-physical-trait and couldn’t readily change your preferences in the name of acceptance. My girlfriend absolutely hates her body hair …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 12:59 AM
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So to counter your argument that having a woman who worships you will: [allow] you to focus on your education / work wholeheartedly without having to worry about where you stand with her or what she is up to. You can get this in a normal healthy relationship with someone who respects you and your time. My girlfriend doesn’t worship me but she does love me and admires me for the type of person I am, how I spend my time, etc; I also admire her for the same reasons. We both have similar outlooks on…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 06:20 PM
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Exactly, if they’ll cheat with you, they’ll cheat on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 09:42 PM
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Just my $.02 but I think the reason men react this way is twofold: 1) insecurity - “I look nothing like what this woman is describing which means she thinks I’m ugly, but she’s an entitled bitch” 2) “Where does she get off demanding these traits in a guy??? I bet she’s a fat and has blue hair.” I think generally speaking, describing the physical traits you look for in a partner will always come off as shallow, but because Reddit swings heavily male, seeing a woman do it always catches the ire of…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 10:40 PM
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And then they complain that men are only nice to attractive women lol Y’ALL DO THE SAME SHIT TO MEN, HAVE SOME EQUALITY
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 06:22 PM
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Yes agree to disagree and I don’t mean to be all aggressive with you. Women tend to deal with an over-abundance of sexual attention, which comes with safety issues, and I know that I can never understand what it’s like to be a woman and live with that type of fear. On the other hand, most men deal with a scarcity of sexual attention, including those who have a good career, are fit, and fit the other traits women say they look for in a partner, but are still unable to get a single woman’s attenti…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 06:15 PM
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Women disagreeing on this isn’t moving in the direction of accepting more men’s body types, though, they’ve restricted these parameters to something akin to the male body types shown here but even then men aren’t good enough for y’all given how many women bash conventionally attractive men anyway. Always women saying “I just don’t find Chris Evans (or insert any male celebrity) attractive”. Mens bodies haven’t been good enough for women for a long time, including the shredded gym bros who are “t…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 05:47 PM
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“Women can’t even agree on who they find attractive” It’s almost like it’s subjective, and different women find different men good-looking. Women consistently say most men aren’t attractive and even bash the men considered conventionally attractive. Studies also show that women’s attraction is somewhat social in that yall only consider a man attractive if another woman confirms it. But guys don’t want to hear this for some bizarre reason. We tune it out when your actions don’t align with your wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 05:38 PM
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How so? Women not being in agreement about what constitutes “a physically attractive man” means that men are constantly chasing a moving target. The hourglass “slim thicc” look on women may be the most universally appealing, but women like Ashley Graham still have millions of followers; the same cannot be said of any male celebrities as men are NEVER the object of desire. Thus the threshold for women being physically attractive to heterosexual men is much wider than the inverse.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 05:24 PM
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“Doesn’t matter had sex”
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 05:18 PM
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Lmaooo
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 05:17 PM
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I think it is fair to say that men have a much wider spectrum of what they consider “physically attractive” compared to women though. Women can’t even agree on who they find attractive, especially since so many go out of their way to bash celebrities like the men here.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 05:16 PM
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“I’ll show you, women won’t even TALK to me!!!”
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 02:45 PM
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Actually quite a big difference as u/Maleficent-Brief-178 put it: us/ historical statistics show that a majority of men/people only produce a substantially larger amount of resources for their society for two reasons "sex"(emotional and physical partnership) and the result of that (children) So in giving a substantially affordable cheap and convincing alternative to that motivating socioeconomic Factor will create Mass widespread poverty Men already realize that women won’t pursue us the same wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 08:06 PM
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Most people take precautions against random crime. Which is usually perpetrated by men. I doubt you carry a weapon or lock your door because you don’t want women to come through it I have guns at home for personal protection against anyone who means to hurt me; if it just so happens to be a woman, yes, I’ll defend myself just the same as I would against a man trying to do the same thing. “Random crime” is exactly that, it can happen to anyone and be perpetrated by anyone, including women. I’m so…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 08:27 PM
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If crime statistics are what motivates your opinion of men, you’re quite a paranoid person and you’re also using the same logic as the “13/50” crowd describing black people; it’d be way more understandable if you had a bad experience with men close to you, but still wouldn’t excuse your characterization of them. Men have a motive to do things to women that women don’t like. That motive is use of our bodies for sexual gratification Pretty presumptuous that a) all men want is sex and b) women don’…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 04:30 PM
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Don’t be so thick, you know you didn’t mean anything good by “pick me women”, and you’re not any better than them because you don’t approach men
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 10:21 PM
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I’m well aware that pick me women exist. And of course a disparaging comment about women who don’t think/act like you
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 10:01 PM
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Why wouldn’t we have a bad opinion of men? Again - what made you have such a negative opinion of men? What happened that you think men who aren’t with a woman are gross, disgusting, pedophilic serial killers? They have a reason to treat us badly if they indulge it What? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 09:45 PM
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Nope lol I’m 32, been out of grad school 5+ years too. You have a very myopic view of the world (and people)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 09:37 PM
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Again, we’re in a pandemic and OLD has been the predominant form of dating for most people anyway. But yes, some women do still approach men, in public, in person, even if you and your friends don’t lol I’ve been approached in person several times this year and have gotten DMed by random women on IG, I see other women approach friends of mine all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 09:23 PM
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Again, women also approach men in person. Less frequently than men approach women, yes but it’s still happening and will continue to happen. Online dating is more popular than ever due to COVID, but still, women approach men too. And I already moved past online messaging, the Bible and any other superfluous nonsense your brought up Women who send DMs don’t approach men in person What? You’re one woman, you speak for all women? I thought y’all weren’t a hive mind or a monolith???
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 09:11 PM
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Actually you were the one who brought up the Bible and God, all I said was that some women approach men, because they do. So no I never moved the goalpost, you were the one who wanted to disqualify sending DMs as “approaching” because it didn’t work to your favor, but you’re still wrong because there are still women who approach men in person.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 07:35 PM
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Lol who hurt you? But yes society does have a “bad view of men”, likely due to people such as yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 07:31 PM
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Again, you’re just moving the goalpost lol And even without DMs and private messaging, there are still women who approach men in person
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 07:10 PM
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“Shoot your shot” means you’re approaching someone you think will reject you, doesn’t matter how you do it: online, in person lol some women approach men, regardless of gender roles, religion or whatever other conflating factors you want to bring up lol DMing someone and expressing interest, “shooting your shot” - it’s all approaching someone for romantic/sexual interest, and women physically approach men in person as well. You’re wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 06:37 PM
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DM’ing someone is not an “approach”. If you’re not walking up to someone in person that’s not an approach. It is shooting your shot. “shooting your shot” is approaching someone, you’re just moving the goalpost and trying to use semantics now because you’re wrong and even admitted as such lol Some women approach men, has nothing to do with gender roles and way more to do with the individuals and the circumstances, get over it
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 06:24 PM
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Christianity has been on the decline for 30+ years and church membership is lower than its ever been. Women DMing men is still women approaching men, and yes, women do approach men in public too. COVID has decimated a lot of industries like bars and clubs over the past 2 years which will highly restrict face to face social interaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 05:50 PM
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And before written word or religions, biology/evolution dictated those gender roles. And regardless of those cultural differences or your own personal biases, modern women are already approaching men (and women and non-binary people depending on their individual sexual preferences). Millennials and gen z are far less religious than other generations, so those that aren’t religious don’t care about what the Bible or any other religious text says about gender roles or sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 05:14 PM
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Gender roles are culture specific and the Bible isn’t the oldest religious text so whether you’re being sarcastic or not, you’re still wrong either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 04:35 PM
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Ask god. Read the Bible. Have some confidence in yourself that things will go well. You tell me.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 04:30 PM
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Biology and evolution preceded religion, and if all religious texts disappeared today, in 1000 years biology/science would remain constant and follow fixed patterns and systems as they have, but people like you would have a new deity to fixate on and use to support your agendas. And I’m sure you’d love to be treated the way women in the Bible were lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 04:21 PM
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Genuinely curious - what made you have such a negative perception of men?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 04:10 PM
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I’m not religious, and neither are many people who date - what does god or the Bible have to do with who approaches who besides being some bullshit “it’s in our nature sky daddy said so” reasoning?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 03:40 PM
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I’d say this is good advice with the caveat that you should finish your partying phase by age 25/26, ideally just get out of that mindset as quickly as you can once you’ve had your fun (at least if you want to settle down).
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 04:15 PM
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Again, how can you prove that it’s in men’s nature to do these things and that this behavior isn’t the result of socialization/performative masculinity? Yes statistically men commit more violent crimes, but if testosterone were to blame, we’d see a spike in violence from female to male trans people, among other things. Evolutionary psychology is a slippery slope when you try to apply it to modern humans; TRP loves to use it as a red herring against feminism. I’m not trying to annoy you or give y…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/21 06:21 PM
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Men being more dangerous is rooted in biology and nature. It's a fact. Citations for this? How can you even prove that men’s inclination towards violence is “nature” vs socialization via performative masculinity? Studies show women tend to exhibit similar levels of aggression in Intimate Partner Violence but through more indirect action, such as insults, spreading rumors (though also physically aggressive as well): https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fnbeh.2018.00081/full So yes you’re …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/21 06:01 PM
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Most women do seem to assume the worst in men though - men are painted in broad strokes and judged with an air of caution by the women on here, safety is always a concern and men are always rapists/abusers/oppressors, so you’re already judging us based on the worst of us.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/21 05:13 PM
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Derailing
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 05:50 PM
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You’ll catch hell for asking anything to do with sex/dating on that sub, especially if you’re a man. Men just really aren’t welcome there altogether unfortunately, unlike r/askmen wherein the users actually allow and even encourage women to participate.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 05:49 PM
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I don't owe anyone commitment and live in a time when a man can have any damn thing he wants without commitment (and all of the worst parts when committing) Yes but if you, like many men on here, are unsatisfied with your romantic life because you can’t find the type of partner you want, you really can’t have “any damn thing” you like. And if your ideal partner doesn’t exist, you’re just as bad as the FDS ladies, because you’re the one who’s completely unmoving on your so-called preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 04:50 PM
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a) it's unknowable What exactly is unknowable? b) n count is mostly a proxy for virginity preference, thus if you're a guy and such things are a part of your preferences the best thing to do in current year is not commit, since that way it doesn't matter That might work for casual sex, but what about LTR? Do you just swear off them altogether because you can’t trust what a woman tells you about her past experiences?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 04:39 PM
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Hell, you women KNOW we judge you on this. I am a 32 year old man lol And for sure, you get to have your own preferences, I’m just saying that it makes sense because women are damned if they do, damned if they don’t in this area. Plenty of double standards that negatively affect men too, but the Madonna/whore complex is one that negatively affects women and men too. Being that wrapped up in your partner’s romantic life prior to you seeing one another is not healthy and will ultimately just ruin …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 04:20 PM
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Don’t you see how this creates a chicken-or-the-egg scenario though? Women are judged for having past sexual partners, no matter how few, even the women who only had one sexual partner their entire life, and they are either prudes or whores. Because so many men react poorly to information about their past, many women tend to lie about previous partners in fear of judgment. Then when these same women are honest with men they feel they can ultimately trust, and those men still slut-shame them, the…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 04:04 PM
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Nothing wrong with Bartending to make a living and having had past partners, but bashing other women’s life choices never looks good, so I see why you deleted your comment
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 08:03 PM
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You couldn’t scream that you’re woman #2 any louder
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 07:24 PM
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NYC was filled with 30+ entitled women demanding 6 figures plus and looks out of men when they werent offering much in general. I think there are women like this in any major city and just delusional people in the dating scene in general, but this hasn’t really been my experience dating in the NY/NJ metro area, and I was dating online earlier this year. Like I said before, cultivating a good lifestyle for myself - being healthy (yes that includes being fit) having stability in my career and inte…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 03:32 PM
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I see you’re avoiding my original question lol Are you still with that person? But I have plenty in common with my girlfriend who is also 32, we’re both active and enjoy lifting, we like the same music, movies, tv shows, we have similar goals and ambitions in life and our careers. Theoretically I could have those things with a 25 year old, sure, but I know that at that age I had a completely different mindset than I have now, and I was way more into going out and partying as most young people ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 02:00 PM
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Maybe read your own sources: Unfortunately, limiting analysis to “never married people under age 35” creates very small sample sizes in the General Social Survey, and so to generate meaningful results, I combine male and female respondents into a single category So even the researcher admits there are limitations here which skew the numbers. Similar reports show that gen z are actually more sexually active when you consider they're Snapchatting nudes in their teens and their online profiles are …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 01:42 PM
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The notion that Gen Z is more sexually conservative is completely wrong - the most extreme views, the ones that rise to the top of TikTok/Twitter/Tumblr/Reddit get the most engagement and attention. Painting them all with one sweeping brush isn’t helpful because the vast majority likely have much more nuanced beliefs. Consider also that we are now entering year two of a pandemic and how that affected the typical social activities young people would engage in to meet their peers - bars, clubs/mus…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 02:03 AM
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Personally I don’t really have much in common with someone that much younger than me, especially 11 years, but to each their own. Trying to keep up with 25 yr olds now at 32 feels exhausting lol Are you still with this person?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 12:52 AM
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It’s funny though, FDSers say that men should follow their sub, but I’m not the first man who’s followed and wound up feeling that way. I do agree with you though, if I were a woman, subs like that and r/pussypassdenied would make my blood boil, especially the comments
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 12:04 AM
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a good amount as in majority nah that’s a stright up lie. I said a good amount, not the majority. There are filter settings on most apps, I don’t even live directly in NYC and got plenty of matches with childfree women. Also the advice of working on career working out improving your self xyz is terrible advice for finding someone because it’s a false sense of control it tells pep that as long as you strive for perfection you can get whatever you like but that’s coudnt be further from the truth L…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 12:02 AM
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I mean technically yes, he could, but I find that age gap relationships like that are unhealthy. This whole notion of “the wall” after 25 is horseshit, though. So many good looking women out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 09:32 PM
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I do feel bad for my best friend’s brother who can’t find a girlfriend. I don’t have the heart to tell him how bad it is for a 33 year old man to be looking for a childless girlfriend right now. I’m gonna have to disagree, but with the caveat of noting that location is a big factor. I live right outside NYC, I’m 32 and had no problem meeting single childless women who were 27-35 when I was dating, but again this could be because I live in a crowded area and a good amount of women here don’t want…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 09:03 PM
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Lol don’t talk about tone when y’all can’t handle even the slightest criticism of your contradictory “logic”. Your only solitary is in insulting men and we know you can’t handle what the “scrotes” say about you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 04:48 PM
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They have an Instagram page, just go to the comments section on any post and you’ll see these “queens” lolol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 12:19 PM
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Oh please, it’s always that we’re “big mad” but y’all can’t take jokes or when anyone pokes holes in your flimsy logic. You’re all feminists but openly objectify yourself in taking pride with how many men want to sleep with you lol Get over yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 01:43 AM
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The issues I take with FDS are that it teaches women to be classist (“My bag is worth more than your car”, referring to people as “peasants”, meanwhile some of the most essential job pay dogshit), racist (use of “pickmeisha”, I’ve seen a lot of them fetishize black men), and that’s not even getting into the rampant transphobia and their obsession with porn induced erectile dysfunction/demonization of sex workers. Moreover, I’ve seen how clique-y that sub can be and how they all dogpile on anyone…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 01:33 AM
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Yep and by your logic, the validation of knowing this guy from work has a crush on you and vice versa should be enough validation for you right? Plus you’re already sleeping with someone else, so your essentially setting yourself up to branch from one partner to the other, when the first guy may have genuine feelings towards you, especially since you say it’s likely the two of you will be dating. You’re emotionally cheating on the person you’re sleeping with, which is why people are coming after…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 09:03 PM
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She always behaves like this lol
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 08:53 PM
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They literally do it to try and make men upset lol Don’t even pay them any mind, just find a partner who is good for you
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 11:31 PM
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Social media is for pictures and memes, not politics and opinions. LMFAOOO because no one ever expresses opinions or discusses politics on social media…do you live under a rock? Reddit is also social media, it just affords users way more anonymity than other forms of social media, so you’re contradicting yourself given that you’re actively using social media to express your opinions…literally right now. Also, plenty of people present themselves one way but are in fact completely different behind…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 06:48 PM
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For people who always complain about a lack of safety, you expect me to believe that you don’t know how to use privacy settings? LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 06:27 PM
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I live in an extremely progressive area and have a lot of feminist/ far left leaning friends who are women. Absolutely none of them behave the way women on this sub and FDS do - not even the content they share to social media is even close to being as contrarian and adversarial towards men. I understand that many women feel the need to “vent” about their experiences with men, but it seems that online and especially on Reddit, women’s solidarity centers on insulting men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 05:08 PM
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I wonder the same thing, although I’d suspect it’s because the sub tries to make itself look like a dating advice sub. They know men look at the sub, especially the men who hate FDS, so they purposely post the most insulting content possible. One of their mods, u/OgJammies, has been banned from this sub because all of her questions are like “Q4M: How does it feel to be worthless?”
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 11:05 PM
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Lol they think they’re the “pretty feminists” but one look at their IG page and you’ll be just as disappointed as the rest of the men who see them on Tinder and Bumble
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 06:58 PM
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FDS women are classist (“My bag costs more than your car!” as if that somehow makes you a better person, meanwhile some of the most essential jobs like teaching pay dogshit), racist (“pickmeisha”), have an obsessive hatred of trans people and sex workers - they’re also hyper focused on porn induced erectile dysfunction. The entire sub fosters such an unhealthy mentality and the users only find solidarity in insulting men, the same way incels only relate to one another through their hatred of wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 06:56 PM
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Women also lie more often then men, especially on surveys, often to make themselves look better (often to not appear shallow). How many women here are lying and saying they wouldn’t find a man more attractive if other women also found him attractive? So many of these answers come off as purposely contrarian because y’all have such an inferiority complex, but there have been several women who’ve admitted they’d either feel intimidated by the competition and would opt out, or others who have admit…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 02:19 AM
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Right but your study is from 2009; also, while women can’t agree on which men are attractive, evidence from the study I linked (which is from 2018) shows that women changed from their initial rating to mirror the social rating (how their peers rated) the attractiveness of men’s faces. So while women may not be in total agreement on who is attractive, they are influenced by social dynamics from other women when it comes to which men they find attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 10:37 PM
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And you’re getting it backwards. Are women attracted to him because other women are or are women attracted to him because he has traits that the majority of women find attractive? You’re confusing the two. Science actually says otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 10:08 PM
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Exactly - I love how TRP and FDS try to apply evolutionary psychology to modern day social dynamics when primates and early humans hadn’t achieved nearly the same level of the language or socialization we have today.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 06:35 PM
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They were more useful in the past when survival was a day to day challenge Even in the past these traits’ utility had their limitations - socialization and language weren’t nearly as advanced in the time period you’re describing, so much of their appeal wouldn’t have even be applicable then. Also, it would be far more useful to have someone who could avoid conflict and instead gain the support of others to grow your tribe, rather than someone who tries to protect through intimidation and aggress…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 06:27 PM
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I’ve addressed this in another comment - Are these actually useful traits to have? Being “tough” does not require one to be cold or stoical at all times and therefore won’t always be useful, even if you want to go the hyper-masculine/evolutionary psychology route and say that men needed to be ruthless killers to protect their tribe, a lack of empathy doesn’t make you a good leader and stoicism doesn’t make you some brilliant strategist, especially if you have to know how to prioritize the needs …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 04:27 PM
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You’re very welcome! This was also about 10 years ago lol Attitudes much different back then, although they were slowly progressing to where we are collectively right now. Was very interesting researching other studies to design this one, so many factors to consider to keep strong internal and external validity and reliability.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 03:11 PM
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Wrong. So many WOMEN consider the traits I mentioned to be desirable in men. That's why men try to be tough and stoic. It's due to wanting to fulfill the expectations/desires that women place. So are these traits a strength because some women think they’re attractive, or because they’re actually useful traits to have? Being “tough” does not require one to be cold or stoical at all times and therefore won’t always be useful, even if you want to go the hyper-masculine/evolutionary psychology route…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 02:57 PM
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people aren't eager to admit that as the opposite of femininity masculinity should include traits like "coldness, uncooperativeness, a lack of empathy, unkind, unhelpful" etc. And somehow so many men consider the traits you mentioned, particularly being cold/insensitive, to be strengths. I think you touch on something important here too - the very connotations behind the words “masculine” and “feminine” and how they are viewed as either a positive or negative term. When I did a study measuring m…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 02:30 PM
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Exactly - this woman never deserved to be treated that way regardless of really anything. I always remember that Heidi Klum’s ex boyfriend, who was like 20 years older than her, also cheated on her - if some sloppy 50 year old cheated on that woman, clearly looks aren’t always the reason someone cheats, and that superficial bullshit is never an excuse to cheat anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 03:08 PM
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I dislike the term “Toxic Masculinity” because it sounds like an attack. Feminists have never been good at branding tbh. I prefer the term Performative Masculinity but I doubt there’s literature on it since I made it up. There is Toxic Femininity/ Performative Femininity as well. Just wanted to say that I really appreciate you sharing this both in terms of the information and acknowledging that a lot of feminism comes off as an attack to men. I often find myself torn on feminism because while I …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 06:46 PM
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Exactly - relationships are a marathon, not a race. Best to find a good running partner
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/21 09:58 PM
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Admittedly didn’t check OP’s profile so I get what you’re saying - this post also being specifically about age gap relationships is weird, and I do agree it seems he has some sort of fixation on that topic. That’s also a fair point regarding Aaron Taylor Johnson but I haven’t really seen much attention paid to that relationship in media, and not nearly criticized to the same degree as celebrity men who date/groom younger women. You see a double standard where imo one doesn't exist because you wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 08:57 PM
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The type of people who seek out huge age gaps are defective and generally incapable of functional and healthy relationships due to their personality traits. They don't make good long-term partners, and that's generally why they're single at much older ages. Lots of assumptions here - What about Aaron Taylor Johnson and his wife who is more 20 years older than him? How about Hugh Jackman and wife who is nearly 15 years older than him? And where’s the criticism of those women for dating someone so…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 07:49 PM
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Again, it is not only feminists who make fun of age gap couples. Viewing it as a feminist issue is just deflection and attempting to be a victim. My gf and I are the same age, so I’m not “attempting to be a victim” lol nor am I saying that feminists are the only critics of age gap couples. The most outspoken critics of those relationships, however, tend to be women/feminists; celebrities like Travis Barker will find favor with the “right” crowds by jumping on the bandwagon and making fun of some…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 07:09 PM
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No one is pushing for age gap relationships between two legal adults to be criminalized. You are right, but feminists really seem to hate it when older men date younger women, and make a lot of assumptions about both people - that the man is a predator who is grooming the younger woman, that the women dating these men have internalized misogyny or are victims of systemic sexism such that they need to date a man they don’t want to be with in order to have financial security. I don’t know how the …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 06:45 PM
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The problem is that feminists often paint men in broad strokes (ie the constant assumption that men are abusers, oppressors and competitors) but don’t want the same done to them. This is most evident with TERFs/Radfems/The “Men are trash/Kill all men” crowd - I rarely (if ever) see any feminists denouncing that behavior or any of the despicable language that gets used to describe men as a whole, and yet we’re supposed to also believe “feminism isn’t a monolith”, that not all feminists behave tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 06:18 PM
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It is when you’re pushing for laws to be passed that will punish people for behavior you don’t like (not necessarily a bad thing, but still policing and attempting to control said behavior through legal consequences), when you dig up old tweets/posts/comments to embarrass, shame and cancel people, and when you paint people in broad strokes (ie “Men are trash”).
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 06:07 PM
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This is insanely true, and largely why I avoid even trying to debate people on this sub anymore. RPers give these short, smug answers thinking they’re mic dropping on you, and then eventually devolve into outright misogyny; FDS ladies get insanely aggressive and offended if you even disagree with them respectfully, and they really hate when you point out the inconsistencies in their precious “manual”.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 06:03 PM
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I definitely did not mean to come across as all men suck mentality I personally am lucky enough to have a family full of really awesome men that prove that wrong Definitely didn’t come off as such and glad to hear there are good men in your life. Unfortunately I know that some women have had neither positive relationships with male family members nor men they have dated, often facing really horrific abuse and that is honestly really shitty to hear as a man too. So again, when you describe what y…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 08:44 PM
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I think women feel like it’s more acceptable because historically all over the world over time we are always the more oppressed so having some say so and spotlight for once I think has thrown flames on a fire instead of trying to make us just look at each other as equals who both deserve respect. Yeah I get you, and I do also get that “men are trash” comes from a place of frustration and is meant as a sort of vent, though it’s much more than that. Personally, I want to be an ally and advocate fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 07:13 PM
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I agree with you for the most part and understand why most American women may have a more curt approach when it comes to men they don’t know due to concerns of safety. Where I have to disagree is this: Men are told they can do no wrong and we’re told everything we do is wrong unless we conform to our partners desires and standards. Seriously…I know there are plenty of terrible men but let’s not act like men are told we “can do no wrong”. In fact, culture has shifted in the exact opposite directi…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 04:53 PM
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I think the problem is that many men don’t want to be friends with women they are attracted to, at least if the friendship is predicated on the woman rejecting the man but then saying, “let’s just be friends.” Sure she may like him as a person but that man will always to a degree feel like an orbiter and just another guy she keeps around for some sort of validation. This isn’t to say that every friendship between a man and a woman is like this, because they aren’t, but when one party has been re…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 09:00 PM
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What about men who work in lower paying fields like social work, education (at least in the US)?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 03:12 PM
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plenty of guys nowadays don’t mind I agree, I’m personally not looking to date anyone like that but know a lot of guys who don’t care - I think it’s also that public opinion surrounding topics like sex work and polyamory are more up front and center as well, and there’s work to actively remove the stigma from those lifestyles.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 03:11 PM
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It’s not that we don’t think women get rejected, it’s that we know women don’t usually initiate and thus don’t have to risk being rejected; women often take a more passive approach to dating and count a man not approaching them as “rejection”. Men also don’t expect you to “hug, flirt with and ask out random guys” to give us “a chance”, but for all the sex positivity and independence pushed by women, they still don’t initiate or put much effort into courting - that’s what we actually want, rather…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 11:16 AM
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Maybe I do need a therapist to fix personality flaws. Maybe stop calling these things “personality flaws” and think of it as “working on myself”. I’d love to be able to find a nice girl who would take care of my house (it would make the most sense for my life), Are you also interested in women or did you mean like a housekeeper? (Not trying to be disrespectful, just unsure what you meant here) but I’m attracted to hot muscular men or strategic, slick, rich, charismatic men. Nothing wrong with ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 02:02 PM
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we feel on some level that we’d be more successful at dating as the other gender. I strongly feel that way, if I was a tall man (even as a short man) with all my same qualities and career success I’d be far more successful in SMV/RMV than I currently am. Because you’re looking at this from a woman’s perspective; the reality is, wealthy men also struggle with relationships, they just have more options than most men because they have higher incomes and many women want a man who makes significantly…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 09:46 PM
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Go to the “Success Stories” sticky thread and you’ll see the most recent post was from a year ago lol Can’t be a very good “dating strategy” with such a small success rate
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 09:14 PM
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Something men have over women that isn't talked about a lot is more of a normalization of sexual rejection. When a man can't get laid (not like for years on end but just a fair amount of trying and failing), that sucks, but at least there's a narrative where that's normal. As a woman, the message you hear is that men want casual sex more than you, and the only way you can seek out sex and struggle to find it is if you're hideously ugly or if you have high standards that rule out a large majority…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 11:52 AM
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She might be wrong but I’m very petty hahah
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/21 05:20 PM
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Where did I share a highlight reel of my life? You(rudely) asked me what any man would even get out of dating me The question was “what does a legit HBM get out of dating an FDS woman”, so how is it rude to ask when that’s the topic of debate? You got angry that I literally copied text from the FDS manual proving you a hypocrite on the point you were trying to make: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/mf53qy/for_a_legit_hvm_what_does_he_get_out_of_dating_an/gslyy34/?utm_source=sha…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/21 02:41 AM
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The overwhelming majority of women have virtually nothing to offer an intelligent, inquisitive, self-aware man except sex. Just...wow. What is it that you think someone like you has to offer for women, misogyny? Lol That’s why hypergamy is so backward. It’s men who should demand much more attractive partners to be interested in relationships with women at all. For a majority of human history, men had access to the most resources and thus women had to depend on men and marriage. Times have change…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/21 02:25 AM
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I used FDS to avoid all the men who have characteristics I don’t like I’ve pointed out multiple times that I think this is the one area in which FDS does well. Never forced anyone to do anything or made anyone feel bad How do you know how your actions have affected others? Meanwhile you comment on every single thing I say desperately trying to prove me wrong and writing essays about how you’ve selflessly helped all the women in your life. maybe you should think about how men’s actions and attitu…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/21 02:11 AM
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Ive seen that posted too but never realized how racist that actually is until you mentioned it here. I’m sure they’ll find a way to spin it that “that’s not what they meant”.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 10:33 PM
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Lol thank you for following my petty ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 05:59 AM
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I’m secure and confidant In one study, they had college students predict how nervous they’d be when talking with new people. The individuals were worse at predicting than people who had just met them. Another study looked at how well people could predict their future behaviors, in this case in purchasing flowers for a charity drive. 83% of the individuals predicted that they would buy flowers, while strangers predicted that 56% of the people would buy flowers. The actual percentage of people who…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 05:33 AM
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Yep and you’re so independent and intimidating LOL Real mark of a boss bitch when she can’t even admit she’s wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 04:58 AM
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That bullshit TikTok story is, in your opinion, a valid excuse to use manipulative strategies in trying to find a partner? What if your supposedly HV bf decided to test your insecurities and jealousy? Women really need to put men in scenarios to see how you will act so we can guess the type of person you are. We would rather know when it wont effect us, than know when it could ruin our lives. You do this by spending time with someone and getting to know them under normal circumstances, not purpo…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 04:56 AM
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You'll actually find that most FDS users wont pipe up outside FDS unless they have one. Yep because you’re afraid of being confronted by someone like me and can’t stand the idea of a man proving you wrong You always hear about the success stories. Really? Why is the front page all posts bashing men, and why is the most recent success story from over a year ago? https://www.reddit.com/r/FemaleDatingStrategy/comments/drp5rc/fds_success_stories/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf I…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 04:37 AM
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0 logic or common sense here lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 04:28 AM
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I never said I would start flirting with anyone, even your example doesnt say that. No where was it implied that we would or should start flirting with other people in front of our date. Okay so then why would you even need to go on a date with “male mate competition” then? It doesn’t even matter because this completely contradicts what you were saying about FDS being about “honesty” and “no fucking around, being hot and cold”: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/mf53qy/for_a_legi…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 04:21 AM
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You are so skin deep. The scenario is to see how he acts, is he calm and collected, sure of himself and of you, confident in himself that he is a good man, or is he going to have a tantrum and be jealous and insecure? I mean, we would love to ask you instead, but men have this tendency to lie whenever they open their mouth just to try and sleep with you. Right - so, it’d be totally okay for a man you were on a date with to start chatting up and flirting with other women then? And then it’d be ok…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 03:15 AM
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from the FDS blog and that’s directly available on the About page: ⁠Keep your options open, always. Instead of women desperately pursuing a relationship with a single male, you maintain several which are beneficial to you in different ways. Although, at this stage, you shouldn’t allow sexual access. ⁠Go on dates where you’re likely to encounter a lot of male mate competion. Sporting events are at the top of the list, but this can be any event or activity where men are likely to be “peacocking” f…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 02:26 AM
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It's more about being honest in a relationship really. No fucking around, being hot and cold, Why are all the strategies about how to manipulate men then? No? Have a good day. I doubt I’d ever hear those words from anyone on FDS lol There is such overt man-bashing on that sub, and while I do get the need to vent about how much dating sucks, I can’t support hating on and dehumanizing the group of people you’re trying to start a relationship with - it’s literally what TRP does and they suck too lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 01:51 AM
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Exactly - "FDS made me a successful woman and now his reward is that he gets to date me while I emotionally abuse and manipulate him into entering the relationship on my terms."
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 01:13 AM
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Because I used to date abusive men and I don’t. Read a book about abuse and the toll it takes on your cognitive health. It’s not a joke. I’m very sorry this happened to you. I have an undergraduate in research psychology and have actually read quite a lot about abuse and it’s effect on cognitive health, so it is not a joke to me. I also apologize if anything in my previous comments seemed to disregard this or minimize the extent of your experience. Just because I disagree with you on something d…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 01:05 AM
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What about this from the FDS blog and that’s directly available on the About page: ⁠Keep your options open, always. Instead of women desperately pursuing a relationship with a single male, you maintain several which are beneficial to you in different ways. Although, at this stage, you shouldn’t allow sexual access. ⁠Go on dates where you’re likely to encounter a lot of male mate competion. Sporting events are at the top of the list, but this can be any event or activity where men are likely to b…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 10:52 PM
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I’m physically fit, look after my aesthetics, have an engineering degree, and work a pretty cool job. I have dreams, goals, and hobbies I am passionate about. Good for you - did you need FDS to accomplish any of that though? I understand the sub’s proclivity for encouraging women to put dating second to a career and lifestyle that is best for them, but that makes up such a tiny portion of the types of posts on that sub. Despite it all, I’m sure nothing about me would be desirable to you, and tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 10:10 PM
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I have nothing to offer men who don’t see me as valuable We all can’t help who is attracted to us, my question this whole time has been: how does FDS actually make you more valuable as a partner? Even from a personal growth standpoint, what about that sub makes you a better person to be with as a result of what you have learned there?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 10:00 PM
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why are women getting blamed for strict standards They’re not, and I think you should go back a reread what I wrote because I have no issue with vetting out partners who aren’t good choices for you, nor for having higher standards. I also never said that men were being “forced” into dating women who follow FDS - I simply asked why a HVM would ever want to date a woman who follows FDS since the women who subscribe to that sub hold very negative views of men, and employ manipulative and emotionall…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 09:57 PM
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they’re just trying to find a match like me What about you makes you a desirable partner to men though, and how does following FDS make you a better partner than others?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 09:49 PM
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I don’t want to “attract” a man So what is the purpose of Female DATING Strategy then? And what do women who follow FDS have to offer as potential partners?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 09:11 PM
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Cutting out the bad ones is great, but what about attracting a HVM? And “there are no good men” is a fucking cop out because redpillers pull that AWALT bullshit all the time. And again, what about following FDS makes you more attractive than women who don’t?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 09:01 PM
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Let me ask you this: what advice/strategy has FDS given you that has gotten you with a HVM or your ideal partner? And what did that person like about you because you followed FDS but wouldn’t have noticed before you ever started following that sub?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 08:51 PM
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You still haven’t answered the question though: what do FDS women have to offer as potential partners to HVM? We’re not calling into question their humanity or whether or not they deserve respect or human decency, I’m simply asking why any HVM should date a woman who subscribes to FDS’s beliefs. Voluntarily, of his own volition, why would a HVM want to pursue a partner who uses FDS’s strategies? A more accurate question would be: what about these “leveled up” women makes them such amazing partne…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 08:42 PM
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Any man that waits a few months to truly get to know his partner sees her human value and connects with her on a mental, emotional, and social level. How is this any different from regular courtship though? And why do FDS women need to be manipulative and abusive towards potential partners in order to get the types of relationships they want when countless other women got into happy, fulfilling relationships with men without FDS, and without having to manipulate their partners and treating them …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 08:35 PM
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I am struggling to understand how men are getting forced to be with women who provide them no value? Right, so men are voluntarily pursuing women on their own accord. So, given FDS’s manual and advice, why would any HVM voluntarily pursue a women who follows FDS? What does she have to offer that is also high value to a HVM, especially if her regard for men is so poor, and if the way in which FDS advises women to treat their potential suitors is manipulative and abusive?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 08:08 PM
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Or it could be that, just as feminism isn’t a monolith and neither are women, men also have different desires from their partners depending on who they are as people. We’re not debating whether or not HVM see women as people - if he’s HV by FDS standards, a key component of being a HVM is respect for others regardless of race, gender, etc, so that wouldn’t make any sense. He would not be HV if he didn’t see women as inherently having value because women are people. It was phrased rudely, but OP …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 07:58 PM
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But does that mean every woman he encounters has value as a potential partner? OP made some nasty comments about mental illness, but did ask what an FDS woman would offer a HVM in a relationship, and it’s a valid question. If FDS subscribers are instructed to follow a manual that tells them to essentially make a list of demands and cut off any man who doesn’t meet said demands, where is the reciprocity? Why should a potential partner have to jump through your hoops for YOU? What do have to offer…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 07:45 PM
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Interesting you’re responding to this comment thread but not to my other comment where I challenged you on why it’s okay to be wary of someone with a high n count, was hoping to hear from you on that. But speaking of prostitution and travel, I’d recommend you check out Australia since therapists can actually recommend sex workers to both men and women there. So yes, there is a market, even if the market for female prostitutes is much higher. Plenty of horrible people are capable of “faking love”…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 04:23 AM
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They are also a rare and not yet functional market in the US. Prostitution is not legal in the US outside of certain very restricted places, so whatever you say about the market is all inference, but yes, majority is men paying for sex. I’ve investigated Babe Buxx my damn self. You people don’t have real problem This is my first time hearing of “Babe Buxx” but upon a cursory search, it’s a pretty ridiculous concept. And my problems are as real and as valid as any person’s. I’m sorry that you hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 04:05 AM
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Paying a man $300 to pretend to be in love is literally wasted cash Gigolos make money lol There are women who pay to have men who look far better than the sexual partners available to them for free. Whether or not they’re wasting money is a matter of your opinion lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 03:01 AM
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I don’t want to turn this into a discussion regarding whether it’s justified to be judgmental on this is issue. Well I do. Still waiting to see one good answer. You raise a lot of good points - I’d say one valid reason you can be not necessarily “judgmental” but wary of a partner’s n-count is for health/safety reasons. Average number of sexual partners for men and women in the US is 7.2, so if you’ve slept with more than say, 30+ people, man or woman, I’d say that’s something to be concerned abo…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 02:40 AM
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I imagine this is more of a safety issue for women, since a woman may initially approach a really good looking guy but then change her mind when she realizes she just likes how he looks and there’s no chemistry between them. Should she change her mind, now she risks the man becoming violent because he’s confused - “Didn’t you want me before? WTF?” As many women here have noted, many men don’t take rejection well, so the risk isn’t really worth it all the time. I also think a lot of women like to…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/20 12:55 AM
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Nah I still disagree with you. Your sub is trash and you can’t twist my words to fit your narrative no matter how hard your try. Nice try though.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/19 09:26 PM
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Sounds like I changed your view, if the narrative of my life is enough to dismantle your beliefs. Lol I echo your comment: nope.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/19 09:07 PM
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Very true. I’d argue that what people post to the internet reflects their inner thoughts and that once you get past the superficial “niceness” people display in public, you’ll start to see a lot of those views. That’s where I really think people that post to those subs will have the most trouble - because being in a committed relationship requires you to drop all pretenses and show a person who you really are, and that’s when all that bitterness will come out. Most of those people would do bette…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/19 09:00 PM
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Ad hominem comes from Latin and literally means “at the person” - you’ve called me names and you keep trying to say my logic is circular but you don’t have an argument yourself that refutes my stance you and men like you hold views of women that prevent you from having quality relationships with them, if any relationship at all. My citation is that all your comments are on r/MGTOW and that the sub is a hotbed of misogyny. Any women that gets even remotely close to you would quickly see through w…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/19 08:53 PM
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You realize you just sided with a Redpiller, who, while not apparently evident right here, advocates for everything that makes you think “men are sick in nature”? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/19 05:32 PM
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Your bullshit is a broken record. You haven’t refuted a single argument of mine. If you’re truly going you own way, stop complaining about women and get on with your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/19 04:28 PM
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Nope, there’s plenty of argument there. If you trash women on Reddit all the time, stop dating women. If you trash men all the time, stop dating them. If they’re so terrible why do you bother with them? Because you want sex? Obviously it’s not working out for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/19 04:27 PM
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Circular logic and fallacies are not ad hominem. Way to demonstrate you still don’t understand it, and then further demonstrate that by calling me a “bloop”, which is actual ad hominem because you attacked the person, not the argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/19 04:25 PM
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Circling back to this because you’re wrong. Treating women the same that everyone treats men is only disrespectful in the eyes of people like you. Redpillers don’t treat women the way everyone else treats men, the strategies on that sub are about manipulation, degradation, and under the radar abuse through gaslighting. Go read the strategies. You’re a MGTOW, go your own way then. Why the constant need to belittle women though? If you’re so damn happy and wake up smiling every day, why do you hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/19 04:23 PM
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Thanks for your response. You don’t need to be okay with the entire collective of the opposite gender. You enter a relationship with one person at a time. Agreed, but I still don’t think it’s okay to spend your time trashing the opposite sex all the time. These subs use their own little invented slurs like “foids” and “moids”, they talk about one another in a baseless and often dehumanizing manner, and operate by banning people who disagree with them. FDS has tried to insulate itself from dissen…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/19 03:36 PM
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Thank you! The redpillers have been giving me this tough guy bullshit and the woman I quoted got so pissed and defensive that I pointed out the nasty shit she had to say about men - and literally both proved my point that they have really awful views of one another. All either side could do was attack me for pointing out how salty they were. Most people have been hurt in a past relationship, whether you’ve been cheated on or unfortunately the victim of abuse, and I won’t make fun of that in the …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/19 12:48 PM
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Admittedly didn’t read your full comment so I wanted to circle back. I am SO SORRY for your experience. There are horrible people out there, and I agree that being wary of men is something women need to do. Subs like TRP and on the flip side, FDS, are attractive to people who have been hurt in the past. That said, I’m glad you found some positivity out of that sub, and that it taught you to value yourself and raise your standards. I’ve shared that a lot of what MGTOW purports (going your own way…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/19 03:37 AM
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But for the record I’m not a man hater. I just recognize most are sex addicts. Men on this very sub admit to thinking about sex every 7 minutes. That is a sick nature to me. It’s normal to y’all. Probably natural. But to me it’s sick because it lends to a lot of cheating and abuse of women, If you’ve never been a target of it, you’ll never understand. I believe all or most men have this nature. I have seen the damage it has done to themselves and others. You’re the one projecting, and you flippe…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/19 10:39 PM
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I actually posted your full comment in this thread, but I’ll repeat that this isn’t justify your sub of choice, it’s change my view. u/[deleted] tried to say that FDS was satire, which we know it isn’t, unless you all can’t decide what your sub actually is. Your esteemed mod u/Coolmelonade is also banned from this sub because her posts here trash men and try to bait them into “proving” themselves and their worth to women. She literally took a post that got removed here and posted it to FDS where…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/19 09:49 PM
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Yeah I get what you’re saying with the “cursed with heterosexuality” comment/self awareness. I don’t blame any of them for trying but I personally think the people following those subs would do better to visit any of the regular dating or relationship advice subs - you get more responses and better advice (again, my opinion) since it’s not mostly fringe redditors posting to them. Thank you for being civil lol Happy New Year
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/19 06:43 PM
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“More connected than ever and increasingly divided”
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/19 02:45 PM
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I read at least 2 books per month lol So many people making so many assumptions about who I am and the type of person I am based on this post or my post history, it’s actually hilarious
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/19 02:27 PM
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I agree with you, but I think this is kind of true for either sex. If you are physically attractive and have the qualities a person desires in a partner (emotional intelligence, attitude, work ethic, etc.), whether man or woman, they don’t care how young or old they are. If you’re a hot worthwhile person, not matter your age, you’re a keeper. The only instance in which I’d disagree with you would be men dating older women with whom they want to have natural children; numerous studies show women …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/19 02:23 PM
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Cared enough to comment lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/19 01:39 PM
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At least FDS has self-awareness to go with their curse. How? FDS and pinkpillfeminism both do their fair share to attack “pickmeishas” in the same way they talk about men, just less frequently, but that’s hardly self-awareness, it just crosses into r/notlikeothergirls territory because FDSers and pinkpillers seem to think they’re better than both. The closest I’ve seen to a shred of self awareness are the Redpillers who posted here and said “I hate women but like to sleep with them.” And again, …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/19 12:09 PM
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Do you want to be romantically involved with them? Then show some respect - doesn’t mean be a doormat either. And if they’re disrespectful towards you, you have to have the self respect to walk away. That’s what a man truly going his own way does.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/19 05:35 AM
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No, I don’t give a shit about them either. It’s very simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/19 05:17 AM
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Here’s a view: TRP is populated by a bunch of men who are unsuccessful in their romantic lives and blame women because of it. FDS is populated by a bunch of women who have been unsuccessful in their romantic lives and have framed men as the problem. Neither group takes any personal responsibility because if you did, you might actually grow the fuck up and realize that you probably fucked up at some point and need to take a good hard look at yourselves and why your past relationships actually fai…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/19 05:16 AM
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Bro the point of this post was for you to change my view - I have nothing to prove to you. Share non-personal things? Like what? I’m not watching a damn Key and Peele skit either lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/19 05:08 AM
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I literally gave examples of each side in my post, and both of those subs are vapid and shallow af. You want me to run a full on content study and code redditors answers in both subs into categories for you? I’m good. I’m asking y’all to change my view and none of you have
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/19 05:02 AM
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Prove you wrong about what? And wtf is high beta?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/19 04:58 AM
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You’re really invested in this tone policing argument. And you make a lot of assumptions about who I am and what experiences I’ve had, who my social circle is, it’s...interesting to say the least. I hope you don’t read women this poorly lolol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/19 04:53 AM
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Ok cool. I’m not black pilled in the least either lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/19 04:49 AM
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Whatever you do with you life bud.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/19 04:46 AM
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Go read How to Lie with Numbers. TRP loooves to conflate causation with correlation and doesn’t pay attention to the r or how strong/weak the numbers are in psych studies they use. I honestly don’t have the time or care for this shit anymore lol Have a great New Year man
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/19 04:44 AM
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I think you should do what you want. I think you should also be prepared for the consequences of your choices. That’s all. Not sure where my political leanings come into play here but I’m sure you’ll have some response/comment to that, and I’m sure I won’t give a shit. You have not changed my view. “Treating women good is bad for your sex life” - good lord wtf
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/19 04:37 AM
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At no point have I commented on how I have no social life lol You can stalk my shit all you like, you didn’t change my view anyway. This is prime ad hominem “Don’t you ever judge me dude, you don’t know what the fuck I’ve been through” - B Rabbit
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/19 04:30 AM
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Ahh the liberal argument. Agree to disagree. I also don’t think you’re an asshole, yes we have different world views but that’s it. I wouldn’t post here if I didn’t want people to provide nuanced discussion. Some of what people have responded with is total horseshit but you get that anywhere
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/19 04:26 AM
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Lol WHAT? You don’t know me or my social life at all And how is this supposed to change my view of those subs or the people who frequent them?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/19 04:21 AM
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Lol do what you want, but you won’t be “nutting in broads” too long if you wind up alone because women don’t want to be around a man who doesn’t have any respect for them. You’re not gonna be young and handsome forever man, and at some point you’ll need to learn to how have a healthy relationship with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/19 04:15 AM
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Not tone policing, but if you want to argue effective dating strategies, you can do it without saying things like “women are useless” or accusing them all of being “hypergamous sluts” a la TRP. I’ve actually given a lot of breadth to the redpillers who were honest and said they didn’t like women but liked having sex with them, because they were honest, regardless of how immoral that approach is. It’s actually the closest anyone has actually been to changing my view even though I disagree with mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/19 04:07 AM
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Hit the nail on the head right here
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/19 03:44 AM
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THANK YOU!!! lmao maybe like a Nazi trying to date a Hebrew Israelite
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/19 03:42 AM
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Lol sure. If you genuinely believe most women are useless though, I don’t imagine you treating your girlfriend too well, and even if you do, once she does something you don’t like, you’ll start to see her as “just like all the others.” That’s where shit starts to fall apart. Same thing goes for women who try to hide their negative view of men from their boyfriends - I’d never date a women who was always saying things like “men are trash” or saw men through the lens of FDS or pinkpillfeminism, mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/19 03:05 AM
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Nah none of this is a statement of what I want, my view is that people who subscribe to these ideologies shouldn’t even bother with the opposite sex. So far MGTOWs have said “We don’t bother with women and are going our own way” but if you visit the sub they’re always posting and commenting about how awful women are, and some claim to use women for sex; Redpillers response has essentially devolved into “I hate women but like to fuck them”, and one FDSer tried to argue the sub was “satire” which …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/19 02:56 AM
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You’re literally just digging your heels in further to your own views, and I’m not taking anyone who calls me a “bloop” seriously lol Be merry, have a wonderful New Year.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/19 01:50 AM
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I do agree that there always outliers and the things you pointed out - helping others, enjoying your own hobbies outside a relationship, charity work - that’s all great and honestly how I wish the MGTOW community was, but in my experience the extremists tend to drown all that out. I’m glad you’ve found some positivity in the community and while you did say you feel jaded, it doesn’t seem like you have this awful view of women; I appreciate your honest reply too. If relationships aren’t for you r…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/19 01:29 AM
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See this is actually honest, and your flair literally says “actual misogynist”. My suggestion was more that you should forgo relationships altogether if you really hold such a terrible view of women, but oddly enough, you may be the closest anyone has come to changing my view, albeit in a very horrible way, as I can see the desire for sex being a motivating factor if that’s all you want. Why do you hate women? Don’t mean this disrespectfully, just curious
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/19 01:17 AM
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Dude I don’t even have to go very far into any given post to find a MGTOW talking about Stacies or how they just have sex with girls and then turn them away. So yeh that may not describe you at all, but it’s emblematic of TRP and MGTOWs. Half of those men wouldn’t be “going their own way” if they had the relationships they wanted, and the relationships they want are with attractive women...many unfortunately want underage girls or like straight up hentai waifus and I’m sorry, but you know it’s t…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/19 01:05 AM
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And your views are cemented in your negative perception of women. At no point did I say “You are redpilled therefore your argument is invalid” - I said that TRP ideology is disrespectful towards women, which it is. Listen I don’t care what subs you like to frequent and if that’s your thing, fine. At least other redpillers that posted here outright said that they think poorly of women but like to have sex with them. Btw your comment about my use of “SJW buzzwords” is actually ad hominem, so I’m g…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/19 12:54 AM
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Then you are a true MGTOW, which is fine, because you are actually honest and practice what you preach. How healthy that is is subject to debate, but you do you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/19 12:44 AM
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Yeah I don’t trust you in the least and I’m not your homeboy lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/19 12:25 AM
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This is CMV, not justify your sub of choice. FDS and pinkpillfeminism like to say they’re satire (pinkpillfeminism claims it’s kink but those women hold men in similarly poor regard) but you know damn well you mean what you say when you’re posting to those subs. I do agree that TRP has a lot of racist and sexist undertones that surface if you do even a modicum of digging. But FDS as satire? Nah sis. It’s fine if you don’t like men, too, but come outright and say it. Why spend all your time trash…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/19 12:24 AM
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Not dealing with women and meming about it doesn’t require you to have 0 respect for women. I’ve actually spent a lot of time lurking MGTOW and TRP posts and tried to give them a chance - I actually love the idea of “men going their own way” if it’s not centered on pointing out how immoral and terrible women are by their very nature and focuses on self improvement - but those subs have never proven to be anything other than a group of dudes boiling women down to being “hypergamous sluts”. Most p…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/19 12:15 AM
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Liking the idea of it and experiencing it in practice/real life are two different things. I agree with the clearing “a high bar” part, but I feel like being around that type of constant negativity over a long period of time would be downright unhealthy. FDSers also advocate dating multiple men at once, milking them for expensive dates/dinners, and then dropping them at the first sign of anything they deem to be red flag because they think it’s “Queen shit.” Not sure any man would enjoy being on …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/19 12:06 AM
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You’ve clearly missed the point and written it off that there is nothing to glean from this. Do what you want. I don’t think that attitude will get you very far with women, not sure who’ll sleep with you, let alone stick around to date you if you think “women as a whole are shitty.” But then again, there’s no point to my post, right? Right.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 11:55 PM
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A lot of men and women debate these things in a much more civil manner, and don’t paint things in broad strokes as those groups do. “The more we discuss perspective and topics the closer we are to understand and find balance.” - definitely agree with you there but the above groups don’t do this effectively. I don’t think average men and women talk about one another the way the redditors of those subs do, and yes, they are on the fringe, but they do hold such “radical” views, most of which are ve…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 11:27 PM
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I absolutely agree that hurt people will hurt others, but I’m not advocating that they isolate themselves, but rather, that they should just date their own, or not date at all if they think the opposite sex is such a terrible group of people. A more effective route for both groups would be for them to see a therapist, determine the root cause of these negative feelings towards the opposite sex, and to find a way to work through those negative views instead of posting nasty comments to reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 11:16 PM
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Gotta say I agree with you - it’s honestly just depressing reading comments from both sides, which yes, is sign I’m taking these complaints to seriously and should spend less time lurking in those subs lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 11:13 PM
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You are exactly the type of person I’m describing in the above post lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 11:07 PM
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I didn’t attack anyone as person, I literally quoted both an r/MGTOW user and an r/FemaleDatingStrategy user. Both made sweeping generalizations about the opposite sex, so there’s no “ad hominem” - I didn’t say “well you beat your wife so your argument is invalid”; I pointed out that their views of one another are toxic and disrespectful, and that you cannot build long lasting, healthy and meaningful relationships with the opposite gender if you spend all your time posting about how bad they are…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 11:07 PM
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Then you don’t, IDGAF. The point of this post was to change my view, and thus far, no one has, including you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 10:59 PM
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This is among the few responses I’ve enjoyed lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 10:56 PM
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Here’s the full comment: “At this point, men are so fucked up with their perversion, possessiveness and unending entitlement, I’m not positive WHAT is going on in their minds. One can say I’ve been cursed with heterosexuality lol. So until my body stops craving male companionship and dick, I’ll keep my standards and guards up as high as the ceiling. If me being his “possession” in his mind means he treats me, my family and my friends like royalty, protects and raises his children right, and supp…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 09:44 PM
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Did...did you read the post?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 09:39 PM
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I think these redditors all cross the line of “venting” and have ventured into something far worse - they speak in platitudes and stereotypes about the opposite sex and use that as an excuse to make really nasty comments. I don’t see how that builds positive relationships, or how you could ever have a healthy, respectful relationship with the opposite sex if that is your view of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 09:08 PM
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From what I’ve observed, MGTOWs and FDSers both claim they don’t need the opposite sex, and many people who post to those subs emphasize how they just “use” members of the opposite sex (MGTOWs claim to use women for sex, FDSers claim to use men for expensive dates, dinners, etc). There’s a lot of disrespect in both of those approaches IMHO, and the users’ comments often reflect that disrespect. I also did not use the word “hate” once in my post. I did, however, emphasize that both groups trash t…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 09:02 PM
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Does this assumption come from that study out of North Carolina where the researchers interviewed 74 men and concluded that 1 in 3 college men would rape women if they could get away with it? Because 74 men out of 3.5 billion is hardly an adequate sample size to generalize to the populace at large; lots of researchers have a problem with this study for that exact reason. Even if you’re referencing that study, “I believe all men would rape if they could get away with it” is your opinion, there’s …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 05:32 PM
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You’re generalizing about an entire populace of people - quite literally half the population of the earth - and how can you speak for all men? What vested interest do gay men have in keeping women safe to protect their own honor? Are they looking to keep women as warbrides to rape? I find it very hard to believe that every man you encounter in the world is a raping, sexist oppressor, especially since in the US, less than 10% of men attempt or even commit rape, and less than 30% of the total popu…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 05:19 PM
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Closest I’ve found to any sort of positive space for men has been r/menslib. Admittedly I’m kinda leery about this sub but I’ll give it a chance; r/MGTOW has some warped individuals on there lol
/r/MGTOW223/12/19 12:06 AM
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Lmfao me too - asked the dudes over there what made them go MGTOW and basically got half-assed answers and bunk science about how men are superior to women.
/r/MGTOW222/12/19 11:28 PM
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I’m sorry for your experience but I highly doubt that all that happened was you told your friend you thought some girl’s butt looked good and then, through a series of unfortunate administrative practices, you got expelled. Yes, there are people who play the victim and over-exaggerate - recently, there was a group of girls who got a boy expelled by saying he had sexually assaulted him, then later the girls admitted they had lied about the assault because they didn’t like him - it horrendous that…
/r/MGTOW22/12/19 07:55 AM
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That’s fucking awful man, I’m so sorry. I do agree that many men are wrongfully regarded as oppressors and predators, and that there are women who take advantage of their perceived vulnerability in the eyes of others.
/r/MGTOW22/12/19 07:44 AM
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Thanks for sharing and I’m very sorry for the experiences you’ve had with both your mother and ex wife, they both sound like dreadful partners to the men in their lives.
/r/MGTOW22/12/19 07:40 AM
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Men did “everything else” because women were never afforded the opportunity to go to college, work in their desired fields, or pursue many of the same interests as men until more recently. Historically women have been disenfranchised and regarded as baby-makers, even with how you’ve framed them. Men definitely hold the cards in terms of physical advantage, but women as a populace are every bit as intelligent and capable as their male counterparts in most other walks of life. And there is very li…
/r/MGTOW22/12/19 07:36 AM
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Lol I agree that most men have a physical advantage and certain jobs that require physicality cannot be done as well by most women. There are exceptions in that there are perfectly capable female firefighters, police officers, etc When you say women function under the protection of society, are you saying that because women aren’t physically capable of stopping a man from hurting them and this other men (in uniform) must protect them? Because I don’t see how not being able to overpower someone l…
/r/MGTOW21/12/19 11:19 PM
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But there are lots of selfless people in the world (both men and women) who give up their lives for the benefit of others with no expectation of anything in return. What evidence/studies do you have that prove women never develop into higher stages of morality?
/r/MGTOW21/12/19 10:33 PM
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Oh I’m so sorry :( I think it’s good that you’re taking time to heal yourself
/r/MGTOW21/12/19 10:24 PM
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What did you learn from Evolutionary Psychology and intergender dynamics that has made you so “deadpanned and apathetic” with women though?
/r/MGTOW21/12/19 10:06 PM
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So...women are “religion” in this scenario? Are you asexual/aromantic (don’t mean this in a condescending way, just curious if you don’t have any interests in dating, relationships or sex)
/r/MGTOW21/12/19 10:04 PM
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Lol thanks for your specificity
/r/MGTOW21/12/19 10:01 PM
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Lol “random kids who try to do things that they can’t and cry when they fail” - what exactly can’t women do? You say women are not responsible enough to take care of their own needs but there are plenty of single women who do just fine on their own.
/r/MGTOW21/12/19 10:01 PM
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Have a pretty close family friend who is an attractive 20 yr old woman. She is interning with a great company in her desired field and would have absolutely no difficulty finding someone her own age. Her boyfriend is 53, works as an electrician and most women wouldn’t look at him even once let alone twice. It was definitely shocking at first, but he is a nice, normal guy otherwise. She is happy, says he treats her very well, and they’ve been together over a year. So while this is just 1 anecdota…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/19 11:51 PM
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Lol you’re correct, but this works both ways and gets us nowhere collectively - you and I still can’t agree or even agree to disagree on this because we both pulled the same shit. If we’re discussing beauty standards and expectations of women, OP was talking about how men cheat on or leave their wives when they get older, and that men, no matter their age, lust after young women. I realize men have a reputation, but they don’t expect to be dating 22 year olds until they die (some yes, but rarely…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/19 01:53 PM
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I don’t feel like women complain about unrealistic beauty standards so much as they seem to want to be acknowledged for more than their appearance. Women are regularly reduced to the measure of their appearance, in spite of their achievements or success in life. For instance, you’ll see criticism of female entrepreneurs, scientists and politicians focus on how “unattractive” they are, even if these women may be very good, well educated and highly successful people. I also think women are looking…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/19 06:48 PM
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Yes I do deny this actually, because just as women can have nuanced approaches to love, attraction and relationships, so can men. I’ve been in a committed relationship with a woman, seen an attractive woman in public, acknowledged that she was attractive and gone about my day without even a second thought and been perfectly happy coming home to my girlfriend. Plenty of other men can and will say the same, they’re in committed relationships/ happily married and their partners aren’t instagram mod…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/19 06:19 PM
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It’s great that you’re faithful to your fiancé but that’s anecdotal, And you are one singular person. I’m sure plenty of women are happy with their male partners and still notice other attractive men but don’t go out and cheat. There’s nothing wrong with finding someone other than your partner physically attractive, it what’s you do with those thoughts and feelings that counts. Plenty of men never leave their partners because they saw an attractive woman out somewhere. OP makes it seem like men …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/19 05:46 PM
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I wasn’t talking about your relationship either???? In your comment you made a lot of assumptions about men - basically saying that we are superficial to a fault and “hypergamous in terms of looks”. This seems to be your view of things, but you are self identified as a “gym thot” so I don’t imagine you’re a man or know it’s like to be one. I’m a man and have no clue what it’s like to be a woman, so I don’t speak in platitudes about women or try to assume what they think or feel, or ascribe a hiv…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/19 05:30 PM
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Making a lot of assumptions here - it’s as if you think men cannot actually love and care about any woman romantically unless she adheres to certain beauty standards. I realize there are a lot of dudes who are shallow pieces of shit and fit your description, but I would also say that there are plenty of men who love and respect their partners for who they are. We’re also allowed to notice that other people are attractive and still stay with our partners and not cheat - don’t women do this too?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/19 05:01 PM
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TRP mindset is so warped and downright misogynistic it’s a wonder any women associate with them. But with the way women on FDS talk about men I’m also surprised that any of them are even attracted to men lol I get it: there are a lot of shitty guys out there and some of them approach you, nothing wrong with rejecting someone you’re not interested in, but it’s something entirely different to spend your time trashing men, and the sub seems to pride itself on being “amoral”. I don’t see how that mi…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/19 12:46 AM
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Wouldn’t say penis envy lol but lots of “over the table” snark, and for a sub centered on dating it’s awfully adversarial towards men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/19 08:16 PM
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Also can’t wait for this to get posted to FDS or Dark Female Triad where all the men in these comments are “fragile” or whatever bullshit they like to make fun of us for lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/19 03:20 AM
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You don’t have to care. The people with the most fulfilling love lives truly care about and respect their partners and approach relationships from a communal standpoint rather than the adversarial one you’ve chosen to take. Seems like you got played/cheated on by some guy you really liked and are now bitter and unhappy and have to present this intensely apathetic exterior so that you feel like you have some edge over the men you want to date. You try so hard to project this apathetic attitude as…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/19 03:09 AM
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