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Question For Womenpop442/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 12:23 AM
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Disagree. I've had more women overseas treat me like I'm Tyson Beckford than women in the U.S. on average. That said, I don't struggle at all with women in the U.S. I'm speaking comparatively.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 04:29 PM
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Depends on the app tbh. There's many down to Earth women on Hinge and Bumble.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 10:29 PM
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Actually, the study has been debunked. The hierarchy goes: Women in good marriages > Single women > Women in bad marriages. The author of the study got called out for misconstruing those polls years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 03:25 PM
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It's tricky because I've met a lot of diamonds in the rough on dating apps. But you also run into the women only looking for casual sex and threesomes too so you have to be selective when it comes to LTRs.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 04:09 PM
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I think a lot of it is dating app driven. On dating apps, women have much more options than men and you often have a lot of single moms, reformed thots, sugar babies, etc. overrepresented as dating options.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 12:10 AM
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Most street criminals are broke af. You just have some dealers in the mix who make a lot of money but even they tend to be financially illiterate.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 12:08 AM
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Well, the first part just seems like how parents would normally react tbh. Did you go to a university at least? That's interesting about the 2nd part though. Maybe it's because I'm from a religious family but I've constantly been asked "When are you getting married?" or "Where's your wife?" You're actually fortunate that your parents are chill about it lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 09:41 PM
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Don't you live in South America? Do your parents shame you for this out of curiosity?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 07:24 PM
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Ngl...I feel the 2010's and 2020's has been WAY better for fat/obese women in the dating scene than the 90's and 00's ever were. I remember when even Britney Spears was fat shamed openly in the media even when it was due to a pregnancy. Nowadays, only anonymous basement dwellers who get called sexists or incels in the 1st place stoop that low. I've even seen rich dudes with chubby girlfriends which was unthinkable even 15 years ago. Times have changed.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 12:30 AM
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Some of the military Black dudes killed it in Japan and South Korea ironically. On the level of White guys? Absolutely not. But it sometimes happens in spite of the colorism there. Hell, I've attracted many Filipino and Chinese women and have gotten compliments from them and what have you. The colorism more so applies to self imposed beauty standards and family approval imho.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 03:14 PM
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Aka sugar babies.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 09:24 PM
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Kind of true but hot women also go crazy over NBA players and K Pop stars who aren't White.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 09:10 PM
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But the main thing they claim is that Incels are repulsive to women which has the exact same implications. Virgin = can't get any women Incel = can't get any women but has a bad attitude about it
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 03:21 AM
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Uh...what? Some of the biggest threads on r/TwoXChromosomes and female spaces online are about men being cruel to women who are deemed ugly, old, and/or fat. It's kind of funny too because men were called the "M" word for suggesting that female insults towards men sting worse than the adverse. You're literally using a MRA talking point and don't even realize it lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 03:19 AM
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Wait...what? So, the whole body positivity movement and the "pretty privilege" awareness campaign was all a ruse the whole time?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 03:17 AM
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I hate to be that guy but you might as well bite the bullet and go to Sosua, Medellin, or Pattaya for some pay for play action.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 03:16 AM
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A sensible and balanced post on PPD? I feel like I'm in the Twilight Zone after reading this.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 03:12 AM
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That's because the Black Pill ended up taking over Internet spaces in place of the Red Pill. Black pill is basically the r/antiwork of the manosphere. It's full of average or below average dudes mad at the world for not being born a Chad or thinking that only the top 20% of men are hoarding all the women to themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 05:27 AM
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A woman in the UK who slept with 1,057 men in 12 hours.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 03:04 PM
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I had to call off an engagement in Colombia years ago for this reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 07:34 AM
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Maybe if you look like Tim Tebow or live in Utah.....
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 07:30 AM
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Bonnie Blue entered the chat.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 07:29 AM
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I read this whole comment in Miranda Priestly's voice....
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 12:02 AM
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Unattractive women can go to Guatemala and Bangladesh and get pursued by many men. And the latter depends on your social circles.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 07:34 PM
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K Pop stars probably work out more than three times the level of the average man tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 04:38 AM
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Go to Guatemala and flash some cash and you'll find a husband in no time.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 11:45 PM
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Can you create a list of these politicians and government officials who specifically said that women shouldn't have the right to vote. I'm not talking about pundits and podcasters who ragebait for a living but actual elected officials who have been sworn into office.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 03:51 AM
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Radfem babble.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 03:45 AM
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Those men in question are mocked quite often. Kevin Federline and ASAP Rocky are still punchlines because of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 03:38 AM
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The vast majority of minorities who are victims of homicide are not killed by the police. Not even remotely even though crooked and abusive cops are obviously an issue. But I'm being sardonic on purpose because I think it's a pointless debate to have on Reddit. It's easier to just say "America bad" and leave it at that. We're all entitled to our opinions. I've seen Redditors praise Sweden for cutting off government benefits for refugees and underemployed immigrants by its Liberal party while the…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 06:49 PM
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Survey Reveals High Levels of Discrimination Against Immigrants in Finland THL survey: Over 40% of immigrants in Finland have faced discrimination | Yle News | Yle But I already know how this will go down on Reddit. So, I'll cave in and say that America is the only country on Earth that mistreats immigrants or has xenophobia and leave it at that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 06:57 PM
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Ah....the same Finland whose Liberal party has an immigration policy exactly like MAGA without the stigma of being labeled "Nazi." I can't lie though. Finland is indeed a very advanced country.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 11:33 AM
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Can you at least name the country so we can pull up the stats and current news to validate what you're saying?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 12:33 AM
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Anti-feminist women can often fall into that category.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 09:58 PM
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I remember this comedian I watched was joking around about married men acting more "single" than ever before. And the audience was cracking up in agreement.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 03:38 AM
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Reminds me of how Bill Belichick's young girlfriend is taking his assets and literally trademarking it as "Gold Digger tm" but he's still not going to break up with her anytime soon despite his own children's objections.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 07:31 AM
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Laura Loomer gave him a BJ live in 4K.....
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 07:06 AM
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I knew something was fishy when I would match with "conservative" women on Hinge who still want casual sex lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 07:01 AM
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Put up pictures on the dating apps of you holding a Bible, a gun, and a pot full of food while wearing a long apron.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 07:00 AM
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Oh wow.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 05:35 PM
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He might as well just go to the Dominican Republic or Thailand and pay for play.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 05:29 PM
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Didn't you get married to an Indian guy or am I mistaking you for someone else?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 04:50 PM
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That's not even close to where that comes from lol. It's more so considered a major milestone to lose your virginity before a certain age in Western society. Once you pass that certain age without losing it, it becomes deemed weird or awkward for women outside of religious circles.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 06:51 AM
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Bigots always have backstories for why they feel the way they do. I could just as easily listen to a person who hates Indians break down how apparently every Indian they know has mistreated them. Sorry if you've personally been mistreated by individuals who happened to be short but your experience is still far too limited to draw wide conclusions like that. I live in a pred. Mexican/SE Asian community. I'm around men shorter than me(5'9) all the time and rarely ever see them being rude or bad pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 06:49 AM
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I mean.....you literally said that you hated a minority group of men who are below average height. How is that not a bigoted view? Lol. If a male poster here said that they hate ugly women because they act like cunts, would women responding to him be "dramatic and emotional" too?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 06:38 AM
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Progressive women seem to overtly hate on short men the most. My own theory is that MAGA/Right Wing women are given less filter to bash just about any type of men under the guise of being "un-PC" or "anti-woke" whereas Progressive women are more bounded by the constraints of what's deemed socially acceptable to mock or attack. So, for example, if a Muslim man goes viral for acting a certain way, MAGA women will bash him for being Muslim without hesitation. A progressive woman will not say anythi…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 06:22 AM
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Then you're a bigot then. Which makes you being "Blue pilled" incredibly ironic.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 06:17 AM
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I remember a woman on here posted her and her husband together and he was fat and kind of mediocre looking and she was raving about how "hot" he was. That's when I knew how strong "husband/wife goggles" are and that you have to take it with a grain of salt when people rave about how attractive their partners are lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 12:51 AM
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That particular thing is not out of the MAGA playbook. For all the talks about MAGA/Conservative women being evil bigots who hate minorities, I NEVER see them bashing, hating, and stereotyping short men on the same level as progressive feminists. In fact, I think progressive feminist women are the main demographic who are infamous for hating on short men followed by average/tall men with a superiority complex.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 12:47 AM
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It's funny because MAGA/Conservative women are supposed to be the evil bigots yet I legit NEVER see them going scorched Earth on short men like the progressive feminist types do.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 12:44 AM
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How are we even defining "short" here? Under 5'5? Under 5'7? Under 5'9? Under 6 ft? I don't even think truly short men are that common among adult men. They're very much a minority group and ironically tend to be ethnic/non-White in the context of the U.S.(esp. outside the Northeast).
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 12:42 AM
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I'm almost positively certain this is a ragebait troll post. Well played. Well played.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 12:39 AM
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An actual sensible post on PPD? How refreshing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 12:27 AM
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So, a lovable asshole ala George Constanza and Al Bundy?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 12:07 AM
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I swear there was some crazy stats saying like 30% of gen z are virgins at such and such age range. Maybe it was "haven't had sex in a year" or something. I think I saw something like that 3-4 years ago and it indeed did only pertain to sex within that specific year. I lost it at 19, but sometimes I identify with those people who struggle to lose it into their 20s and feel for them lol. Not losing your virginity in your 20's makes one a true anomaly. I feel bad for them, too, but waiting until 3…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 05:40 PM
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It could be higher than estimated but not by much imho. I even told my teenaged relatives a year ago that the average age to lose your virginity was 17 years old and they looked shocked because they thought it was LOWER based on their life experiences. Plenty of teens and young adults are still going on dates and having sex. It may not be as much compared to the past but I don't think adult virginity(esp. 25+) is anywhere near as high as Reddit makes it seem. I think Reddit just attracts a lot o…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 04:00 PM
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This. It literally shuts down any gendered political argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 10:17 AM
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Yep. I flat out don't even want people to know if I'm in religious circles lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 08:51 AM
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No. Even the most recent alarmist stats about what the OP is saying reflects this. Number of Virgins in America Hits Record High - Newsweek "The number of young adult virgins in America hit an all-time high in 2023, as a record number of both men and women between 22 and 34 reported they had never had sex. The study, conducted by the National Survey of Family Growth (NSFG) among people of all sexualities, found that the proportion of male virgins in this age group rose from 4 percent in 2013-15 …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 06:53 AM
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Gemini took that from the 2019 Pew Research Poll which only had 5,000 participants and a disproportionate amount of LGBTQ people. It's actually insane how, 6 years later, people still fall back on that same exact poll and treat it like gospel for the post COVID dating scene for men lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 06:43 AM
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Eh....I wouldn't say this is the norm at all. A lot of 30+ men I know are either taken or pursuing monogamous relationships. I know far more fuckboys in their 20's than 30's and 40's. But it depends on where you live. I guess in a city like Los Angeles and Miami, you have a bunch of playboy bachelor types rotating girls from the nightclubs but, in Texas, it's far less common.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 06:41 AM
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Again, law of averages. Attitude matters but physical attraction plays an ample role in attracting women too. There's plenty of data backing up the very thing I'm saying. Tall men are much less likely to be rejected for their height than short men on average. That's not to say short men don't date or marry. That's obviously untrue. But tall men attract much more women on a general level and have more positive stereotypes.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 08:01 AM
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After facial attraction, height has the strongest physical appeal to average women. This is common knowledge. A 6'4 guy is already getting substantially more attention from women than a 5'4 guy off the bat, especially in nightlife settings, before they even get to introduce themselves. There are exceptions but we're talking the law of averages here.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 07:21 AM
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on average
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 06:48 AM
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Let's be real. A 6'4 womanizer and sexist is getting laid more than a 5'4 male feminist on average.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 11:18 PM
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If your flair isn't trolling, your husband is in my prayers.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 10:29 PM
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Interesting. I'm a reformed "fuckboy" who changed my ways and am now very picky and monogamous with relationships. The weird thing is I often match with women who call themselves "conservative" on the apps but they still want casual sex lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 04:39 AM
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Out of curiosity, do you live in an immigrant community?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 12:53 AM
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Have you at least tried to connect with them on social media?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 07:06 AM
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Flavor Flav would beg to differ....
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 07:04 AM
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The average marriage in the U.S. has a 2-3 year age gap. I see your point but I think it's overblown, especially if we're excluding sugar dating and focusing on genuine LTR's and marriages. Your average 38 year old doctor, lawyer, or software engineer isn't married to a 22 year old sorority girl lol. But if you're talking about women in the 26-29 year old age group, those types of relationships with 30 something men are more common.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 01:40 AM
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Lol....no.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 12:42 AM
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Utah.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 11:20 PM
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What year do you think we're in.....1995? The rest of the West and South Korea absolutely have a gender divide among the Left and Right in politics that is well documented.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 08:03 AM
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Who do you think attracts more liberal White women on average......6'2 conservative White guys or 5'6 liberal non-White guys? If you answer honestly, you can see that politics isn't as important as people claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 08:00 AM
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BS.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 01:00 PM
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Not really but I'm just saying that she did factually do many sex scenes in Euphoria. And she often dresses in ways that show off her boobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 04:29 AM
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Eh...not really. I mean....Sydney did literal sex scenes in Euphoria and nobody really cares.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 01:38 AM
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Sydney Sweeney is apolitical fyi.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 01:37 AM
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Not really. You don't ever look at certain women who try to match with you on the apps and think "Yeah.....I'm gonna pass on that one".
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 12:34 AM
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Nah. It's not that deep. I swear...half the time, people are just ragebaiting on both sides.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 12:00 AM
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Average height men and short men are 2 different groups. Also, there's levels to what you're saying. A short man with a good face, good fashion, and nice hairstyle will have different results than others. Fat men who have good proportions or give off strong/hefty vibes like Daym Drops won't have the same results as others. And balding or bald men who have good faces and bodies won't have the same results as others.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 11:58 PM
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True. Reddit had people thinking Kamala would win Florida in 2024 lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 11:54 PM
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At least you have self-awareness. There's a lot of dudes who claim to have super low standards and that they can't attract a single person yet, when you question them on some things, you realize that's not true at all. They just don't like their options or who they match with on the apps lol. It's fine to want the upper attractive women. Just be aware that the competition is tight and the ones who are relationship material and don't have kids often get paired up earlier.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 11:42 PM
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I see your point but such men have to realize that they're a small minority among men in their 30's. Still, they should probably seek support from people that don't demonize them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 11:31 PM
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That's true but not gendered. Broke fuckboys past their mid 20's end up suffering the same fate.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 11:02 PM
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To be fair, many men involved are drunk too.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 10:07 PM
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I'm pretty sure that applies to unmarried/childless women. Not virgin ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 04:28 AM
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You have to have social skills, form social circles, and attend social events to increase your chances of getting laid. If that doesn't work out, just play the numbers game on dating apps. Not sure what else to tell you.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 03:45 AM
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I mean....the average Joe should already be aware of the social implications of missing out on certain milestones at an older age like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 03:41 AM
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Especially on the apps. When you have a hot woman out of your league respond back and chat with you, it just gives you a feeling of euphoria.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 11:12 PM
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I say this partly from experience because I almost married a woman I was going on dates with from Medellin years ago. I was still a young adult(I think 24 years old) and she was a working as a bartender. She was the one who pressured me into marriage funnily enough. I was thankfully informed by some people that she was talking to other men and telling them the same thing she told me which prevented me from having that dilemma.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 06:33 PM
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Only attractive ones. Its not really a norm overall though. And including 40s here is a huge stretch depending on what you mean by "younger girls." You have to remember that the average American man past 30 is 5'9 and a half and weighs 200 pounds. Younger men are more likely to have good hairlines and not be as fat on average. And more likely to have the "pretty boy" or "jock" look that young women go crazy over. So, yeah.....a 30+ dude who looks similar to Henry Cavill, Michael B Jordan, and St…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 05:37 PM
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Because attractive is attractive. Even hot 35 year old women with big boobs will have college aged men thirsting after them for similar reasons and I've seen that first hand.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 05:04 PM
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Exactly. A man can peak in high school and fall off completely by 25. Then there's dudes who glow up later in life. And it also depends on a bunch of other factors. There's men who look better than they did in high school/college but are still broke or working dead end jobs which means that they theoretically attract more women but the limited money prevents them from reaching their full potential. There's no such thing as automatically becoming a "HVM" or a good catch as soon as you turn 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 05:03 PM
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Ironically, it's often the most promiscuous and gold digging women or single moms who target passport bros the most aggressively. And this happens often in bars and club type environments. That's why men who try to date overseas have to be careful with who they date/marry. The Philippines in particular is a haven for men getting manipulated and scammed by women looking for a sugar daddy or a step father. The most traditional women overseas don't stay single for long overseas. Many marry and have…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 04:59 PM
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I remember a Black dude who traveled to the DR made a video talking about seeing racist older White guys dating Brown skinned Latinas there but treating them like literal slaves and showing hostility towards Black American male tourists who were in the same passport bro scene.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 04:54 PM
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Tbh, I always kept my height at 5'9 and I get matches every week. Granted, some of them are flaky(more so on Tinder than Hinge) but I never had to lie about my height. Taller men get better responses on average obviously but it lowkey feels good to still be able to get matches and plan dates without having to lie about it. It's like beating a video game on hard mode lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 07:26 AM
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Before your retirement, how many ugly/mid looking dudes with great personalities did you hook up with?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 11:39 PM
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Not if you fly to Colombia or the Dominican Republic.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 11:13 PM
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Relationships > Sex
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 10:18 PM
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Sooo true. Like I literally get matches every week and I'm only 5'9, slightly above average looking, and a minority. Like Big Pun, I'm not a player but I literally chat with a bunch of different women on the apps daily. I'm 31 but I talk to many younger people in their early 20's and teens and, from what I've gathered, it's still very much the norm for young people to date and have sex. There may be a reduction or slowing down of it compared to the 20th century and 2000's but it still very much …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 01:58 PM
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White women voted majority Republican in Presidential elections since the early 1960's.....
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 10:27 PM
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Very true. Ironically, in my state, the main women I attract on Hinge these days are White conservative women in their 20's. And I'm Black and apolitical. Location matters a lot. Tbh, though, even when I lived in New Jersey, I ran into some conservative women but they(the younger ones anyway) tended to "move in silence" and only discuss politics in very private circles as opposed to broadcasting it out loud. I think women under the age of 40 who skew conservative tend to be slyer and more underc…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 10:20 PM
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Really depends on how you're defining "successful guys." If we're talking about men who are super successful at casual sex, OLD, and hookups then of course they wouldn't complain much unless they're hypocrites. But a lot of married men who are socially conservative absolutely complain about casual sex and modern dating. Even JD Vance made a suggestion to ban dating apps in America and he's a married man with multiple kids. In fact, married Christian men are some of the biggest advocates of abort…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 04:34 PM
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Red Pill was initially just a PUA guide for men navigating modern dating and hookup culture. And that was it. It changed to something different when it merged with the MRA/MGTOW/Anti-feminist crowd.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 03:33 PM
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By age 30, very few men are virgins. Never mind Incels. Unless you're counting a guy with inconsistent or slow dating success as an "incel" which is absurd.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 03:08 PM
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I mean...duh. They complain about 304's, single moms, and gold diggers the most because those are the main women they attract. The actual Tradcon/religious women usually get married off earlier and the single ones frown upon the casanova and fuckboy types big time.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 04:48 AM
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Repeat casual sex is just FWB's essentially.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 04:46 AM
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Shhhh.......let's keeping having discourses about Hispanic, Black, and Arab men going MAGA while acting like White women are a super progressive voting bloc.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 11:27 PM
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Eh....I honestly rarely see that happen when I go on dates. If anything, the times that I did try to tell funny stories about me and my exes, they thought it was a weird thing to bring up on the date. There's usually much more common ways to break the ice than to bring up past relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 07:56 PM
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There's truth to this.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 07:52 PM
1

Did you grow up with religious parents?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 07:45 PM
1

That's just men in general compared to women. Even married men are viewed as more threatening than single women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 07:44 PM
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Then how did the phrase "the bar is in hell" even become a sentiment?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 02:04 AM
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Men find a wider range of women attractive on average than vice versa. Even most of the women on r/PlusSize claim that they have zero problems dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 04:18 PM
2

You can say a similar thing about religious families too.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 04:15 PM
3

Honestly, this varies a lot. Ideally, being "desirable husband material" should be the end goal. You want to have a stable wife and family but you also want your relationship to involve raw physical and sexual desire as well. Leaning too much into either extreme is where things will falter. Being a true "beta buxx" whose mostly desired for your money or resources is a relationship built on a very rocky foundation and is prone to dead bedrooms and divorce. However, being too much of a fuckboy pas…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 04:05 PM
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Why didn't you answer my 2nd question? I'd argue that men who attack fat women have the exact same mentality as women for attack short men for the most part. It's usually more so being a shallow asshole than being an outright sexist in either case.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 02:31 AM
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Yep. As long as you're a cold-blooded killer for "the right cause", you get a pass.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 01:39 AM
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Just in itself? No. That's just being a shallow asshole. Some of them are sexist though. Are women man haters and misandrists if they attack short men and broke men?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 01:38 AM
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I don't use Tinder as much anymore nor pay for it but I still get matches sometimes. The quality of women is much more inconsistent compared to my matches on Hinge though. Like, in a span of a week recently, I had a cute Nigerian girl who dressed nice and a "slim-thicc" body who matched with me. But, shortly after, I matched with a 30 year old "big titty goth girl" with tattoos and a nose ring who seemed to be stuck in the 2000's with arrested development, still dressing like a "scene kid" as a …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 10:06 PM
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I mean....men say all the time that we're horny af and that our lust is our downfall. Very rarely do men go around claiming that they have a morally driven romantic preference driven by virtue and personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 09:56 PM
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JD Vance is a married man with kids and he openly advocated for banning dating apps because he feels they're destroying society. Matt Walsh is a married man with kids who made similar claims. Some of you are romanticizing the hell out of married men with kids, thinking they never ever complain about modern society lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 09:53 PM
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There are real social repercussions for publicly bashing fat women in the U.S. Many people will view you as a misogynistic asshole if you randomly attack fat women outside of the Internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 09:50 PM
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Men who have community/family don't do evil things. I guess evil things = mass shootings exclusively now. Domestic violence be damned.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 09:41 PM
3

Yep. Women befriend gay men all the time for instance. (Though you do get a bizarre phenomenon known as F Word Hags who DO feel attraction to gay men and even become "beards" to them.)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 12:38 PM
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I mean....Black Pill content is MUCH more prevalent on Tik Tok than Reddit and Tik Tok is very popular with kids atm.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 02:38 AM
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According to an OK Cupid study from 16 years ago.......
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 02:32 AM
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Post that stat. That's very, very different from the 2022-2023 stats on sexual activity.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 02:16 AM
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I'm 31 and I feel I kind of lucked out as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 02:08 AM
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She's "4B" bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 02:18 PM
2

For example, the female version of Adam Driver would be mocked relentlessly by men. Tate McRae entered the chat.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 02:41 AM
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I mean...most men "have a chance" if they're not super ugly, very autistic, or unemployed. Having a chance =/= being a casanova.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 01:46 AM
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To be fair, it's usually women on here who swear that they can sniff out any insecurity or misogyny in men and that men who struggle to date have random women sensing it via their intuition.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 01:23 AM
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No. The Red Pill in its origin was an evolution of PUA tactics in the Internet age. All the original "Red Pillers" were PUA coaches teaching men about game, dating strategies, self-improvement, hookups, social skills, flirting, and status maxing. It didn't become political or anti-feminist all that much until it merged with the MRA/MGTOW types in the early-mid 2010's. But the Red Pill at its original foundation was just helping men learn dating advice that wasn't coming from people saying "Be a …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 08:01 PM
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Essentially this.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 05:50 PM
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Move to Utah. Problem solved.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 03:06 PM
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I agree with 11-12 year olds but I think it's quite normal for 13-15 year olds to date and be in relationships. Not to the degree that all or even most experience it but it's not an abnormal experience. I mean...there's a reason why even kid sitcoms on Disney and Nickelodeon used to showcase teen or tween couples. It's meant to reflect aspects of reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 02:45 PM
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This is assuming that it's the norm for post-college men to have zero dating experience which we have no data of whatsoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 01:38 PM
2

The U.S. is probably the last country in the West that needs to worry about mass immigration.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 05:33 AM
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Except for Diddy....
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 06:36 AM
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Rich privilege > Male privilege
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/25 04:00 PM
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"Just marry a homeless crack addict off a street corner" -The Blue Pill in 2025
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/25 03:38 PM
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Depends on the type. I have ADHD inherited from my father and we both have had lots of experience in dating. That said, I heard ADHD works very differently from other types of neurodivergence and might actually be a benefit to dating to a degree.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/25 03:08 PM
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Very true. When I hear certain dudes on Reddit claim that it's normal to go 30 whole years without any dating experience, it just blows my mind cause it doesn't reflect what I see in real life at all. But it makes sense for autism to make certain men go through delays and more unique dating challenges.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 08:31 PM
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Nah. Everyone knows that George Constanza was the biggest sex symbol of the 90's.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 11:28 PM
2

Ahh....I see what you're saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 03:20 PM
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In a nutshell, it's usually feminists who make these claims the most, insinuating that the bar is in hell and that it's common for women to put up with toxic/abusive behavior in relationships. Yet when guys like OP make the same claims verbatim as those feminists, it's suddenly a rare phenomenon that only involves a niche group of women. It just seems like the argument switches up depending on who says it. Hell, Kamala Harris made whole ads implying that its common for women to have controlling …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 03:08 PM
0

Exactly. This sub's view on self-improvement is weird af. Getting a better job is self-improvement. Losing weight when you're chubby/fat is self-improvement. Lifting weights when you're scrawny is self-improvement. Grooming your face/facial hair better is self-improvement. Dressing better is self-improvement. Learning better social skills is self-improvement. Getting out to more venues to meet people is self-improvement. Owning your own place is self-improvement. It's literally just taking initi…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 01:25 AM
2

True. I remember getting a BJ back in college from some random girl I danced with at a party whose name I never even learned and it was still the greatest BJ I ever had in my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 01:19 AM
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Yep. I never gave up but this is entertainment for me and there's sometimes good discussions that happen here.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 01:18 AM
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True. I was still going partying in Vegas and Miami with my boys when I was in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 09:13 PM
2

It's like this meme all over again. https://imgur.com/kQjFSGW
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 09:09 PM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 04:56 PM
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I can kind of relate to that but I also have somewhat of a babyface despite rocking a beard so that might play a role. I message women in the 30's range(I'm 31) just the same as the younger ones though. I just get more responses on average from women in the 18-25 group. I have messaged and matched with women in their 30's too. My main experience is that the young girls respond to me faster but they can come across very awkward/neurotic in the chats or they'll send me their IG/Snapchat info and t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 10:40 PM
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Nah. You guys are severely underestimating the SMV of younger men, probably because you only focus on the biggest losers among them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 10:34 PM
1

Damn. Bill Belichick catching strays.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 10:31 PM
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For marriage, I disagree. Men tend to be more meticulous when it comes to their marriage partners and who they want to be the mother of their children.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 10:24 PM
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I literally see 9-13 year old kids with guts and cellulite showing. It's crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 10:22 PM
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There's truth to this. Even in OLD, I find that playing the numbers game will ensure that you still get SOME interest. Usually on Hinge, I simply post random or funny comments and I'll get some girls responding back and giving me their number/IG/Snapchat info.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 10:06 PM
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This isn't gendered. Female obesity even among younger ages is at an all time high in the West. I literally see 10-12 year old girls who are very chubby.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 10:04 PM
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True.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 09:43 PM
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I see. I personally think working class or poorer areas just vary a lot in general and can't really be lumped together as a monolith. Obviously, richer people tend to have less blatant pathologies overall but I think there's different dynamics per location.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/25 11:32 PM
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I thought this was a class debate, not a racial debate. Working class or lower class communities are a wide spectrum which includes all races and ranges from inner cities, rural areas, certain immigrant communities, and even Blue collar suburbs. I personally think examining the full spectrum of lower/working class communities with the upper-middle class makes for a more interesting discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/25 10:10 PM
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Why are we acting like only inner cities are poor when there's also tons of poor rural areas, ethnic enclaves, and even lower/working classs class suburbs?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/25 10:06 PM
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This is heavily exaggerated. Close to 40% of Mass voted for Trump in 2024. They may be outnumbered by Liberals but they're not that hard to find, especially in certain suburbs and Blue collar areas. I'd argue a conservative Catholic man has an edge over a liberal secular guy in Fall River.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/25 04:12 AM
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Women are 50/50 split on abortion fyi.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/25 04:09 AM
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A lot of rappers even make songs about this very thing when they have daughters lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 06:55 PM
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So, you're telling me with a straight face that a fat man with a horrible haircut, no money, and no communication skills won't level up and become more attractive when he self improves in those categories? Sounds like a very chronically online take.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 05:38 PM
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My brother in Christ....you literally become more physically attractive to women by doing this lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 04:53 PM
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It literally makes more people attracted to you compared to your old self. If you don't think improving fitness, skin care, social skills, social circles, fashion choices, hairstyles, moneymaking, etc. doesn't increase your options, you're delusional. Again, I'm not saying it makes you Chad or whatever. Obviously, he'll be on another level than most of us. But actual self-improvement boosts your options in dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 04:21 PM
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It literally increases your dating/sexual options and ability to get partners which means it's not a waste of time at all. That's like saying getting a promotion on your job is a waste of time because you're still not making 6 figures. If you think self-improvement meant turning yourself into a Chad than you missed the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 03:55 PM
2

That's true.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 03:54 PM
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That only applies to Americanized East Asian women. Black, Hispanic, Indian, Middle Eastern, and even FOB East Asian women mainly date and marry their own men. I get what you're saying about White beauty standards for both genders in the West but the idea that the average minority woman has no attraction to minority men is extremely overblown online.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 03:52 PM
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But I thought women on Reddit said that women can sniff insecurity from 100 miles away and that those men rarely attract women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 03:26 PM
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You have to admit though, insecurity is 5 times more attacked in men than women. I hardly hear men telling women that they'll never get a date because they're insecure about their faces, BPD, or hair color. But you'll see women telling men that day in and day out.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 03:24 PM
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My only suggestion would be to live with roommates and save up for your own place. Even if the said place is a single apartment, that'll be preferrable to living in your parent's basement.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 01:34 AM
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Tate McRae is getting gassed up as a sex symbol these days. Plenty of men thirst for average looking women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 01:26 AM
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Depends. Are we talking dirty Blonde guys like Fred from Scooby Doo or guys who have Blonde eyebrows and look more pseudo-albino and hairless features/bodies? Cause there's a massive difference between the 2. The dirty Blonde guys are very much desirable and you'd be delusional to think otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 01:17 AM
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Kenya is becoming a major spot for Western passport bros fyi.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 01:14 AM
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2/3 of men are virgins or haven't had sex in the last year. Whoa...what? That sounds insane. Where's the link to this?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 02:17 AM
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Same here.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 01:47 AM
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Are you trolling? The link you posted didn't show this to be the case at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 09:32 PM
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They're also the 2nd biggest GOP voting bloc in the country.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 07:16 PM
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Bro....what? I never said I was getting endless options. Just that I still get matches. Its pretty normal to get matches on the apps even though it won't be in sheer abundance unless you're top tier looking. If you're straight up not getting a single match then your profile must be really mediocre.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 04:59 AM
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Damn. That's crazy. I slowed down on Tinder and Bumble but I still get matches there whenever I check in here and there. Hinge is my main domain though.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 04:50 AM
1

Which apps do you use?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 02:32 AM
2

Just highlighting a difference in beauty standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 11:41 PM
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For example, a woman being heavy set doesn’t take away from her attractiveness to me if she’s wearing an outfit that compliments her weight well, China, Japan, and South Korea entered the chat......
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 11:19 PM
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What do you mean by "no reply?" Do you mean that your matches are ghosting you and unresponsive or you're not getting matches period?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 11:18 PM
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Yep. That's the thing. He was on online forums whining about 10/10 Blondes not giving him a chance. Bro was a victim of his own standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 11:16 PM
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Time to go to the Dominican Republic or Colombia.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 11:10 PM
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Source? I thought it was close to equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 11:06 PM
1

Hustler's University
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 11:01 PM
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Let a man call a woman an "old hag" or a "fat bitch" in public and he wouldn't even have to worry about other women. Other men will give him the blues.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 05:28 AM
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Unironically classism. Not that I really care.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 05:10 AM
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If Taylor Swift looked like Lena Dunham, her career would've died before Trump first got elected.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 03:23 AM
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Very true. The same can be said for the neoliberal/neocon alliance over the years too. Liz Cheney campaining with Harris was symbolic of that. The Romney Republican to Biden/Harris pipeline and Obama/Bernie Democrat to Trump pipeline is real. I remember David Duke even endorsed a radical Black Democrat who was radically anti-Zionist a long time ago. I forget the name.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 05:21 AM
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Hold up. Do you unironically think the Left doesn't blame "others" for any problems either? You haven't seen Leftists/Liberals shitting on rural people, poor Whites, non-college educated people, Christians, straight men, police officers, Southerners, non-feminist women, Baby Boomers, conservatives in general, etc.? You haven't seen people on the Left claim America would be a better country if there weren't as many people in some of the categories I named? If not, I'd love to have some of what yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 03:52 AM
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I disagree. Bernie even appealed to some MAGA types. He's seen as a fighter against the establishment and someone who actually cares about working people. In a nutshell, the mainstream Left has doubled down on being the performatively progressive vanguards of the status quo and it's bled both the Leftists in their group and the Blue Dog Democrats too. Go figure.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 03:43 AM
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Ironically one of the most sensible posts in this whole thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 03:40 AM
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Yep. It can very easily be flipped into a literal fascist argument. "Stop the untermensch from breeding." -Nazis and radical feminists
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 11:25 AM
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Eh...he may be telling the truth. The paradox is that Left wing women are often quick to be cannibalized and cancelled by their own for coming across as bigoted or hateful so they're very conscious on who is deemed socially acceptable to target or attack in their circles. Hence, attacking or negative stereotyping straight men who are short is treated as a less serious offense than attacking say.....Jews or trans people. Hence, you'll find quite a few self-IDed progressive women on Reddit, Tik To…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 05:01 AM
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Men have always been able to be as judgmental and harsh to women as they want, the only difference is we're more equal now so women are dishing it back more. You mean on certain parts of the Internet? I'm almost positivity certain that a man openly calling a woman an old hag or a hippo in a public setting would universally have him be seen as a insufferable POS even by other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 04:55 AM
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Sounds ageist.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 10:28 PM
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The Pew Poll also had a big overrepresentation of LGBTQ people who are more likely to report being single than non-LGBTQ people.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 10:27 PM
1

Do you have a gray beard yet?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 10:20 PM
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Seal and Heidi Klum.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 04:15 PM
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Pretty much this. The most "main character syndrome" women and men tend to dominate social media the most.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 11:27 PM
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I mean...she cheated on me but I get your point.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 12:23 AM
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True I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 11:12 PM
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Obligatory. Bill Burr - Titanic Is A Horror Film
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 10:51 PM
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It's actually happened to me before. I used to briefly date a girl in high school who cheated on me with a more popular guy. Years down the line, I end up running back into her in Brooklyn and she tells me she goes to church now. She was still slim and pretty attractive but the catch was that she had 3 kids and a bitter baby daddy who stalked her every other night. I wasn't cool being a stepdad AND having drama with her BD so I didn't take it any further than being friends. She kept inviting me …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 10:41 PM
1

The post you replied to was implying that better looking women are less promiscuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 09:34 PM
1

Humble bragging....
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 02:14 AM
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Hell, I know fat women that act as sugar mamas to broke men who got out of jail or immigrants getting a green card.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 02:12 AM
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What country do you live in? Being a virgin in your 30's sounds very unusual. Either those guys must've been butt ugly, super religious/traditional, or have asocial personalities.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 02:01 AM
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80% of people I know who attended Chris Brown's tour are women.......
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 10:55 PM
2

Estaba bromeando pero yo soy de un color similar al de muchos Indios de India, Dominicanos y Guatemaltecos.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 02:22 AM
2

Time to cold approach in Guatemala and Peru.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 10:56 PM
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True but it goes both ways. Many men will realistically have more women to talk to using apps than cold approaching. I do agree that it's easier to make deep connections with women right away offline though.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 10:51 PM
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You racist! I kid. I kid. Haha.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 10:48 PM
1

the attention given to them starts to slow down. 35 year old Chads who are still single are sleeping with women in their 20s, not 33 year olds. I thought Chads wounded up marrying and having kids with "Stacies."
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 03:15 PM
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This man is unemployed, broke, and not a WASP at all and managed to marry 3 women while also having a girlfriend. Florida man who was married to three women at the same time sentenced for felony bigamy
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 03:06 PM
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Reddit in general feels parallel to real life in that regard. I talk to the youth a lot, partly as a mentor. And, believe me, many kids are still dating and fucking. Not just Chads and Tyrones or jocks either. It's true that young people don't marry young anymore but that in no way means that the average young man is an Incel in the slightest. Inceldom might be rising but it's still very uncommon.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 01:29 AM
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Smh.....not this old ass Pew Research poll again. It only sampled 5,000 people and one-fifth of them surveyed were LGBTQ who often have higher rates of being single than heterosexual people. The methodology is right there. Methodology | Pew Research Center
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 01:25 AM
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Because they're all cheating on their husbands with the same security guard and gym trainer. /sarc.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 01:19 AM
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ICE is hiring.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 10:36 PM
3

Trump won people making 6 figures in 2016 and 2020. 2024 was actually an outlier and Harris won that demographic by a small margin. Don't be fooled. There's tons of rich men who pretend to be "blue collar" or "country" to fit the conservative aesthetic and many people wouldn't assume that they make a lot of money or own a big house at first glance. Texas in particular is full of rich professionals who vote conservative but still dress plain or like cowboys outside of work.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 10:30 PM
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I also want to point out that men on here often vehemently shit on women they consider low status such as myself. Women that dye their hair or have tattoos or piercings, aren’t model thin or are socially awkward or on the spectrum. I've been on here 3 years and I've rarely seen that get associated with "low status" in women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 10:27 PM
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FYI: Cuba and Vietnam are going through the exact same demographic crisis as capitalist countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 01:54 PM
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What in the world does this have to do with my post?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 05:28 AM
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Nah. They fall out all the time. From MAGA vs non-MAGA conservatives, Neocons vs the Populist Right, Zionist vs Anti-Zionist, Far Right vs Moderate Right, Tradcons vs Red Pillers, Evangelicals vs Secular Libertarians, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 04:17 AM
1

Very true. In fact, the Tradcon Right like Matt Walsh had a massive falling out with the Red Pill 2 years ago over this very subject.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 04:14 AM
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Here we go with the whole "Back in the 1800's, rich and powerful men gave women little rights. Therefore, average Joes must pay for the sins of powerful men who weren't even their ancestors." Besides, don't women nowadays brag all the time about women eclipsing men in school, careers, and home ownership these days? Seems odd to brag about these changes in society while still clinging to the past when it's convenient.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 04:31 PM
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I mean....do people just see you as a single bachelor or an inexperienced virgin? Cause both groups are viewed very, very differently. Nobody really gives af about a man voluntarily staying single except his parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 04:27 PM
5

To be fair, that's not gendered.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 04:21 PM
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But see.....here's where things get tricky. When men claim that most women aren't in abusive or bad relationships, we get told that we're downplaying misogyny or how widespread abuse is. But when women say the exact same thing verbatim to shame single men, it's treated as truth. The problem is that you can't have it both ways. You can't decry how widespread abusive or toxic relationships are when it's convenient then admit that they're in the minority of relationships in another discourse. And I…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 04:20 PM
1

Oh okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 02:00 PM
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Nah. Not fat =/= anorexic. I rarely see dudes praising anorexic women on here. Hell, Sydney Sweeney and Megan Thee Stallion get a lot of love from men and they're far from non-curvy and very skinny.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 01:53 PM
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he is has limited resources and date maximum 8 women? Hold up? You think Chads only date a maximum of 8 women? Hell, I've dated way more women than that and I'm not a Chad. Perhaps we have different definitions of who "Chad" is.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 01:48 PM
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Tbh, I remember a Blonde woman on here posted a picture of her with her husband and he looked fat and average as hell. But she claimed she found him highly attractive. Just like there's "wife goggles", there's also "husband goggles."
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 01:41 PM
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Either way, there's not a single Socialist country in Europe. The vast majority of Left wing parties in Europe are pro-capitalist, pro-business, and operate under free markets and classical liberalism. Having more accessible healthcare isn't socialist and it's kind of weird how certain Leftists online pretend that that's the ultimate standard for socialism yet they never call Japan a socialist or Leftist country for having it. Even the Social Democratic politicians called out Bernie a decade ago…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 03:57 AM
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You do realize TONS of male feminists and Leftist men have been accused of sex crimes and predatory behavior towards women right? Also, there's tons of conservative men with families and wives. I feel like Reddit is a parallel universe sometimes. Politics has very little impact on empathy, community, and intelligence. There's plenty of rich assholes in gated communities who vote Democrat in the Northeast and DC area.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 02:46 PM
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Social Democracy is Center Left. Even actual socialists online have called Sweden and Norway's government's right wing solely cause they practice capitalism......government programs be damned.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 02:28 PM
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Bro. By the age of 25, very few men have zero relationship or sexual experience. Maybe on Reddit, this is true but definitely not reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 02:15 PM
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According to the OP's logic, 53% of White women in the U.S. are femcels who can't get laid or find partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 01:53 PM
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Oh yeah....I use different types of social media, ranging from Reddit to Instagram to Facebook to Snapchat to Youtube. I use Facebook/IG/Snapchat to keep up with what's going on with other people in my circle while also letting them know what's going on with me. Youtube for entertainment. And Reddit for forum usage(I find other forums to either be dead or uninteresting).
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 03:37 AM
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🤣🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 12:43 AM
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Hold up. Are you unironically encouraging misandry?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 11:45 PM
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The turn offs you describe are universal and not remotely desired by attractive women in non-Southern states so I'm not even sure where you're going with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 11:44 PM
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I disagree. Reddit dudes are much more likely to be on the spectrum, anti-social, and dateless/sexless than the average dude irl. Too many dudes on here don't actually go outside or have social lives and it shows. I've seen dudes unironically claim that it's normal for average men to go 30 whole fucking years without any relationship experience which is absolutely not true at all lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 11:29 PM
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Very true. A teenage boy who caught me making a post on this app while I was waiting for my food at a restaurant peeked over and said "You post on Reddit? Bro....that's sad." I couldn't help but laugh too. Even kids irl know Reddit isn't for the "cool crowd" lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 11:26 PM
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Hold up. Don't women here gloat all the time about young women "surpassing" young men by every metric imaginable? Why would that happen if the "effects don't go away?"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 09:15 PM
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The Internet in a nutshell. https://imgur.com/YaEmWdX
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 11:03 PM
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I had a 19 year old girl on Hinge message me, begging me to buy her Birken bags and help pay her tuition. She was a blatant sugar baby though. Never shied away from that label either cause I saw it in her bio. Like you said, it's far from an everyday dating norm though, especially offline.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 11:02 PM
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Let's be real. Nobody cares who Bubba from rural Kentucky dates and marries.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 04:49 PM
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Inceldom also grew with more men having a technological addiction(social media, Youtube, video games, porn, podcasts, Twitch) and less active social lives than ever before in modern history. You can't leave that part out.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 04:22 PM
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Shannon Sharpe entered the chat.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 08:48 PM
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I read this in Hannah Gadsby's voice....
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 12:19 AM
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I knew a Swedish girl back in college who specifically fetishized Black and Italian men. I know....super random but she would openly admit it too and not see it as weird at all. I went to college in New Jersey too so I know she must've felt like she was in heaven lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 10:12 PM
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Nah bro. The working class overweight single mom from the trailer park in Kentucky is going to get flown out to Dubai every other week.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 09:12 PM
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Ironically, Jim Jones used to make his members offer up their wives for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 09:11 PM
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Or you could just read a book about Wilt Chamberlain's "escapades." Wilt Chamberlain On The Rumor That He's Slept With 20,000 Women | Late Night with Conan O’Brien
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 09:07 PM
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Not to be intrusive but what happened to your father?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 11:43 PM
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Relative to being an incel, it's a positive. I mean...that's not saying much given that Incels have a horrible reputation to begin with. Volcel means you have accepted celibacy and do not lose sleep over it and you aren't miserable. I never said otherwise. I'm just saying that it still gets viewed as a red flag for women past a certain age with the exceptions pertaining to relationships without sex or religious communities. But, overall, men get the most sex from relationships or outside of hook…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 01:46 AM
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I don't think being a volcel is inherently good or bad. It just is what it is. But, if we're going off of public perception, it's definitely seen as missing an important milestone of your life as a man unless you're in a super religious community. People won't necessarily think you're a bad person or loser at all. But many women will be hesitant to get with a man who lacks relationship or sexual experience past a certain age.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 12:02 AM
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many also think if a woman desires a man but can't keep a man there is something wrong with her and they are likely right. Wait. Are you talking about women who get pumped and dumped or used for sex? And implying that their inability to keep those men around is a reflection of their character? Cause, if so, that's ironically a VERY Red Pilled comment you just made lol. It literally sounds like something Kevin Samuels would say on his podcast.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 10:55 PM
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Eh.......I doubt it. But it also depends on the age. A 23 year old man being "volcel" and being picky with his sex or dating life is one thing. But a 33 year old man claiming to be "volcel" is going to have people thinking this internally. I'm just telling it like it is. Everyone knows that most men desire sex even if they're not the horny fuckboy types. Few people are going to believe that a 33 year old man went all that time in his life with no sex because of pickiness or lack of interest alon…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 10:50 PM
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Basically this. Some people just aren't magnets of attraction even if they aren't bad people.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 10:21 PM
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Are they talking about bums with aimless lives or dudes who aren't the proverbial "Triple 6" because there's a huge difference. If they're telling you not to settle for a man who isn't a Triple 6 then that's very superficial. But if they're saying don't date the unemployed alcoholic with anger issues, that's a totally different story.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 12:18 AM
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Tbh, I don't find Tinder that bad. I stopped paying for Platinum almost a year ago and I've still been getting likes and matches on there. Some are flaky and just tell me to add them on Snapchat. Others actually engage with me in the chats. The real challenge is getting a true LTR out of Tinder. But, in terms of just getting interest in general, it's not that bad. For context, I'm only 5'9, a minority, slender, and live a pretty ordinary life.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 11:34 PM
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I don't know. I've seen many White dudes online complain about OLD. Also, there's non-White men who don't necessarily have problems with OLD. There's a lot of factors involved besides race. I get a decent amount of likes weekly on the apps and my pics are only slightly above average on my profiles. Hell, I don't even pay for Tinder anymore and still get matches.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 10:25 PM
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I used to live in NYC where there was a 40+ year old female crack head who was anorexic, had short hair, broken teeth, schizophrenic, and had an ugly face but she stayed getting wined and dined by different men. Granted, I don't think they ever seriously dated her but they'd pick her up and drive her to different places to eat or hang out. You'd be amazed.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 10:23 PM
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I read this entire post in Jordan Peterson's voice.....
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 12:11 AM
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Reminds me of Liberal Feminist men who argue against lookism but will call every other Conservative woman like MTG and Laura Loomer ugly and grotesque.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 11:57 PM
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https://imgur.com/ksAH6rA
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 11:56 PM
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https://imgur.com/ksAH6rA
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 11:55 PM
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Honestly, I think they're overrepresented on Reddit in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 10:02 PM
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None at all? Not even bots? Damn.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 09:57 PM
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Eh...that really depends. I used to sleep around quite a bit when I was a broke college student working dead end jobs but no woman in their right mind would marry me right away lol. Now, I'm much more "marriage material" than I once was which is good since I'm only interested in LTR's now.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 11:10 PM
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Do you live in Utah?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 10:55 PM
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Bro...what the hell are you talking about? The man just spoke about his own personal preference which is actually pretty normative irl. Men do like younger women but younger is relative. To a 40 year old man, women in their late 20's and 30's are "younger." But they largely still view college aged girls as kids, esp. those under 22. If you want young poon that badly, just go on Seeking Arrangements and buy out a sugar baby. That's literally the easiest cheat code to getting really young(but lega…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 12:12 PM
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The average 30 year old man is not inexperienced...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 12:09 PM
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Bro...63% of men are NOT single. That stat was literally based on a sample size of less than 5,000 people from Pew Research back in 2019. And over 1,000 people in that sample belonged to the LGBTQ community. Reddit kept spamming this "stat" a few years ago to ragebait people but it was never based on widespread census data since relationship status outside of marriage is never recorded outside of certain surveys.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 12:05 PM
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The gap in desirability between women in their 30's and women in their 20's is like comparing Scottie Pippen to Michael Jordan in the 90's. Was Jordan viewed as the better player? Absolutely. Was Pippen viewed as a bad player or a scrub? Hell no. Women in their 30's get into LTR's, marriages, hookups, etc. all the time. They don't need to be as desirable as a 24 year old IG model into a relationship lol. That's just cope. Hell, there's single moms in their 30's that get remarried like it's nothi…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 11:55 AM
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This is no longer true. Tons of women in their 30's get attention from both younger men and men in their 40's and 50's.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 11:12 PM
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Most men are "incel" in their 20's? Bro...what are you talking about? The average age men lose their virginity in the U.S. is 17 years old.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 10:35 PM
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I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 01:04 AM
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A wise man once said "It ain't trickin if you got it."
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 02:06 AM
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P Diddy's case is not helping either.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 12:33 AM
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Johnny Bravo
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 07:24 PM
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Are you neurodivergent by any chance?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 11:16 PM
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Is obesity "masculine" because the U.S. has the largest amount of obese men on planet Earth.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 12:51 PM
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Eh....this either sounds like a social skill issue or a dilemma between you and your own friends. Plenty of dudes with partners and/or kids still find time to hang out, communicate, watch/play sports, support each other, etc. I know because my older brother is married, owns a business, and has 3 kids yet we talk to each other every other day even as we live in different states and find ways to support each other. I still have friends from my hometown or high school/college years or previous jobs…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 04:44 AM
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Exactly. My grandfather was an illiterate sharecropper from rural South Carolina living in a barnyard where my mom and her 8 siblings often shared beds and food. And he had my uncles working the field at 5:00 a.m. in the morning to help him with the harvest. When women here talk about how men were "powerful and privileged" back in the day, it's very clear that they're upper-middle class WASP women exclusively talking about upper-middle class WASP men from the 1950's or the 1800's for that matter…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 04:45 PM
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How do you know?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 12:25 AM
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I disagree. Even fat single moms in their 30's often hop from one relationship to the next. I've seen that first hand too. You're really overestimating how "picky" average men are. I just saw some broccoli haired teenage boys who were above average looking with chubby girls with freckles on their faces just the other day at the mall.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 09:04 PM
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I understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 10:42 PM
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A party with no alcohol damn near defeats the purpose of having a party. Maybe it'd be more apt to call it a hangout.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 10:19 PM
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I agree with loud music but no alcohol? What kind of "party" is that? You must be strictly talking about teenagers.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 08:13 PM
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I'm 31.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 05:14 AM
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Oh...I thought you meant today. Times have changed. More single people are buying homes compared to the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 12:32 AM
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You're delusional. Maybe in Manhattan and Silicon Valley, that's "magical."
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 12:30 AM
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You're not lying. I can attest to that. I've become more religious since the pandemic so I'm no longer into that lifestyle but I used to seriously be a "fuckboy" in the days where I used to drink heavy and have hangovers every other weekend.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 12:04 AM
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This. I look pretty average but I always had success in that department because I'm extroverted and I used to be heavy in partying, drinking, and hitting the bong when I was younger. Plus, I can dance well. Being socially awkward/shy or disinterested in attending social events that boost your chances of meeting single women can honestly be a bigger "death sentence" than mere looks/body alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 12:03 AM
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Depending on how you define "young", I'm 31 and own a home.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 11:57 PM
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Based on a limited sample size in a Pew Research Poll back in 2019........
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 11:37 PM
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Age is relevant here. Having those things matter past a certain age(usually after 30) when you're looking for a LTR/marriage but attraction is rarely centered around that in younger years. I was honestly having the most casual sex when I was sharing a pad with 5 other dudes, working dead end jobs, and eating processed junk every other night when I was younger. I haven't been big on casual sex in a while now but it just goes to show that you really don't need those types of things at all when it …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 11:35 PM
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There is such a thing as building attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 11:32 PM
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If someone couldn’t attract women, and they were blaming women for it, expecting everyone to cater to them, and refusing to get up and work on themselves to try to improve their situation…that would be a loser Ngl...If you change certain words around, this sounds identical to something Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity would say.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 04:13 AM
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Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 10:53 PM
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I also match with women who have "conservative" on their profiles but I also live in Texas so there's that. When I communicate with them, though, they seem more libertarian with a Christian bent than anything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 08:54 PM
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Ironically, it's mainly married men who are talking about banning abortion and repealing the 19th Amendment on a federal level.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 08:48 PM
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Age is very much a factor too. 25 and under? You can get away with being a virgin as a man provided you clarify that it's due to being selective, non-promiscuous, or religious. Past 25? It's better to not bring it up or keep it a secret. If a woman finds out you're a virgin past 25, it can be brutal and seen as "immature" to a degree.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 08:42 PM
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See....this is where it gets tricky though. Aren't "involuntary virgins" basically ugly and/or neurodivergent guys. When I look at Elliot Rodger and Alek Minassian, I do not see guys who would qualify as "involuntary virgins" at all. In fact, they're far from ugly. Elliot in particular could've easily smashed or dated some basic looking or nerdy girls if he wanted to but he was obsessed with "Stacies" and Blonde bimbo types who paid him no mind which lead to his downfall. I get what you're sayin…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 06:32 AM
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I think age is important for the context here too. A 20 year old virgin guy is somewhat late in the process but he can still put up an "aw shucks" type of charm if he presents himself as a non-slutty guy holding out for the right girl or who's very religious. Plus, 20 year old virgin guys aren't really that uncommon in this day and age. But a 30 year old virgin guy is pretty damn screwed ngl. He's within a small minority of men in his age group and he will seriously have to play catch up and lea…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 06:15 AM
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Plankton was ahead of his time.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 12:54 AM
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Uh...you do realize immigrant women make up a substantial portion of highly educated and White collar women too right?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 11:30 PM
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30's? That's very much not a norm. Every other Millennial I know is overworked af lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 10:59 PM
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That's a name I haven't heard in a while.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 09:32 PM
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Do these "average blokes" you're referring to hail from South Asia and the Middle East?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 05:03 AM
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Eh...it depends. Even in my own life, I've had some women argue over whether I'm a good looking man or not with one side saying I am and the other side saying my eyebrows are too bushy like Anthony Davis and that I look average af. Women really do vary a lot in terms of what they consider attractive unless you're referring to "GigaChads" or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 05:01 AM
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But I thought women here said that most abusive partners start off as pretend nice guys....
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 04:56 AM
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Yeah....a lot of the guys you want are probably off the market.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 04:54 AM
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I mean...the traditional media is functionally dead. More people than ever are cutting off cable, cutting off newspaper subscriptions, watching less movies, and buying less magazines. It's 100% social media that's making people raise their standards because constantly being bombarded with displays of glamour, luxury, good looking people, nightlife, and travel has made people more insecure about the mundane aspects of their lives more than ever before. It's not even just an influencer thing. You …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 04:49 AM
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Like I said, it all falls under a spectrum. But I think, nowadays, your average graduate with a Bachelor's doesn't really possess much supreme knowledge or critical thinking skills outside of their primary fields of study. There's tons of college grads who can't do basic algebra, can't name all 50 state capitals off the top of their heads, can't name all the amendments in the Constitution, can't tell you anything about the Qing Dynasty or the French Revolution or Augusto Pinochet, etc. without u…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 06:06 PM
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You keep bitching about “college grads” lives How is acknowledging that college grads aren't monolithic and shouldn't be lumped together "bitching?" I keep talking about the college experience. You literally didn't bring it up a single time. Memes and IG videos don't count as a talking point lol. If you thought a degree wasn’t worth it, You wouldn’t have finished. I got a degree in a lucrative field and got an internship before graduation so what I said doesn't apply to me. My whole point is tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 04:06 PM
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Source? It's just an anecdote and one that reflects my experiences. I know tons of guys in these types of occupations and damn near 90% of them are in relationships or married. And what percentage has the fair skin? Heh?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 04:55 AM
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Bro...you were literally jesting in half of your posts lol. Why would I respond to a bunch of sorority girls twerking to Usher or a random meme that had nothing to do with what I said? I went to college and got a STEM degree myself. If you actually read my posts instead of looking for a "gotcha" response to bait for karma, you would know that nothing I posted was anti-college in the slightest. It was more so about how college graduates aren't monolithic at all and that many still struggle to fin…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 04:47 AM
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Posting this meme shows that you literally didn't read a single work I actually said lol. But hey...you got to troll around so props to you for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 03:58 AM
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Way to dodge my point completely lol. Like I said, as someone with a STEM degree and job in my field, I've seen the pitfalls of many college graduates who still have aimless career paths due to not prioritizing lucrative degrees or internships while at their colleges. I've seen way too many receptionists, car salesmen, chefs, and Amazon workers with Bachelor's degrees to say otherwise. Obviously, Bachelor's degrees give you a leg up for a number of career paths but even those jobs value experien…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 03:51 AM
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Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 02:46 AM
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It's not that simple. What are these guys majoring in? What career paths do they have? How lucrative is their job market? "Getting a degree" says nothing. I know receptionists with Master's degrees and Amazon workers with Bachelor's degrees. Getting a Bachelor's from a random university doesn't say anything about a guy's prospects or even level of cognition. Similarly, not having a Bachelor's isn't monolithic either. Guys without 4 year degrees range from Tradesmen, Cops, Firemen, NEET's, guys w…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 02:40 AM
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ASAP Rocky entered the chat.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 02:32 AM
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College degrees alone mean nothing. What is your degree in? Which career path are you headed for? How is the baseline pay for your job? That information means a lot more than just "having a degree." I know plenty of people with degrees in things like Sports Management, Business Administration, Communication, etc. who are still shuffling between job after job while hoping to get into their ideal career. I know literal receptionists who have Master's degrees. Also, let's say more women are getting…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 02:29 AM
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"4B isn’t a trend it’s an entire political movement" A "political movement" that basically no politician in the U.S. even acknowledges or takes seriously. A "political movement" that has less than 10,000 female followers in South Korea where it originates. A "political movement" with no impact whatsoever on policymaking. "Misandry and femcels are trending now more than ever." That in itself has nothing to do with 4B and more to do with ragebait culture on both sides. "Literally see the #ihatemyb…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 08:19 PM
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Yeah right. I'd love to see data on that. More Muslims move to Europe than the USA and there's no evidence of Islam growing much with non-immigrants in the USA.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 03:14 PM
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4B was trending for like a month at most in the U.S lol. Most people even on social media forgot all about it except for some fringe radfems and femcels online. There's zero evidence of it actually growing to a notable extent with women. Also, I feel both radfem women who "need no man" and tradwife wannabe women looking for a "soft life" are growing in popularity at equal levels.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 02:00 AM
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That's because many of the OG Red Pill PUA's became Tradcon and/or Alt Right grifters. It went from "enjoy the decline" to "stop the decline."
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 01:53 AM
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Lmao at this cope. There's no way in hell Islam is going to grow in the U.S. with anyone but immigrants from certain countries and desperate prisoners/ex-convicts.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 01:48 AM
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The inevitable part of male loneliness is the romantic component, which heterosexual men CANNOT control. Can you elaborate on this? How can men not control being able to have a girlfriend or wife? Unless you're severely deformed or mentally ill, I'd argue it's very much in your power. But you may not have as many options as you'd like.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 02:43 PM
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I literally addressed your main points directly lol. I'm talking about the scales of popularity and influence and you're talking about how the very fact that 4B has a presence online means that it's more popular and talked about than MGTOW. But this isn't based in any reality at all. I never doubted that 4B had followers but it is more niche than MGTOW ever was. It's just that MGTOW ended up merging with other manosphere type movements.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 03:06 AM
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When's the last time you made a sub that got 25k followers? We're not talking about an individual making a sub though. We're talking about a movement that's supposed to be making a major wave among women. The original MGTOW sub on Reddit got banned years ago. But r/MensRights which borrows a lot of its philosophy has close to 400k subs. Seriously, our standards for followers and whatnot is so weird. You were the one who tried to play the popularity contest in the 1st place by claiming that peopl…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 02:50 AM
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25K for a sub is nothing. Plus, I'm talking beyond Reddit. In other parts of social media, 4B is very niche compared to other types of movements and hardly ever even gets brought up anymore outside of small corners of the net. And, while the actual term "MGTOW" isn't used as often, similar philosophies as MGTOW have seeped into the greater manosphere ecosystem.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 01:30 AM
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Ngl.....By December, I legit saw nothing whatsoever about the 4B Movement and it felt like a relic. Now, in May of 2025, it feels almost forgotten despite having so much online hype in November. Even though MGTOW is niche, it has way more recognition than the 4B Movement and it's not even close. Plus, MGTOW discourse has lasted for over a decade now whereas 4B is already getting brushed aside after blowing up as recently as 6 months.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 01:07 AM
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Exactly. Plus, it literally came and went and was a relic by December.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 01:02 AM
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Sweden's social model is on its last legs
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 10:42 PM
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Your comment reminds me of this scene from King Of Queens. Arthur Gets Jilted | The King of Queens
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 10:25 PM
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I mean....it's a free market. You can't just go full PRC and ban dating apps. At the end of the day, nobody's stopping others from engaging in nightlife, concerts, social clubs, bars, parks, house parties, festivals, malls, volunteering groups, and other places where you can meet people. It's usually people who don't even take the time to meet people outside of their comfort zones who spend the most time claiming "dating apps ruined everything." Dating apps may have presented a new dynamic in da…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 05:38 PM
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Yeah....there's a strong geographical and even generational component to this.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 12:29 AM
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Yep. The RP you would make you think the average man's dating life consists of a 34 year old late bloomer who lost his virginity at 30 and married a former OF model with 2 kids who slept with the entire NBA before choosing him.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 06:12 AM
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To start— Every woman I know has been groped and objectified in public by complete strangers. But I thought you guys said on here that this was fringe Incel behavior that normal people shunned. Which is it? Is doing something disgusting like that towards women a fringe thing that Incels mostly contribute to or is it a pervasive societal issue? Or is this just specific to your social circle? I've seen way too many women on here flip flop on this depending on the topic but I personally think using…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 05:55 AM
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Let's ask Hugo Chavez and Fidel Castro. Oh wait....
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 04:09 AM
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We have those. Bars are still open. Clubs are still open. Social groups are still around. Libraries are still around. Colleges are still around. Volunteering groups are still around. Malls are still around. Parks are still around. Coachella is here. And the list goes on and on. It's just that people are literally addicted to the Internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 04:03 AM
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Very true. There was even a funny news story about an unemployed Black man in Florida marrying 3 Blondes at the same time who were basically his sugar mamas and he's in trouble in the law rn. Dude had that broke rizz lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 03:58 AM
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Yeah.....no offense but you're probably in a deeper bubble than you think. Divorces, breakups, bad relationships, infidelity, gold digging, abuse, alcoholism, mental illness, etc. is very, very far from just happening with buck toothed hillbillies from West Virginia lol. I find that, even in so-called bubbles, people tend to only gravitate to a select number of people and assume that they represent the whole area. For example, a lot of people in trendy and yuppie parts of Manhattan pretty much d…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 03:53 AM
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That because shitty men tend to have a "Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde" mentality where they put on a good persona around their community or friends but turn into monsters when "the coast is clear." I used to live next door to an abusive man who was a business owner and was highly respected in the community and his church but I literally had to call the cops on him one night because I could hear him beating the crap out of his wife next door, shouting obscenities in Spanish and throwing pans at her. An…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 10:08 PM
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I think age plays a role here too. For high school and college aged girls, attractive women are largely going to favor guys who are either attractive, tall, have strong social clout, play sports, or have great social skills. Money might appeal to some sugar babies but girls at that point are largely not drawn to money alone when it comes to dating. They'll date a broke college quarterback, frat boy, or long haired pretty boy any day of the week over a short, mediocre looking guy making 6 figures…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 03:31 AM
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Yeah....I was extremely confused by this lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 01:40 AM
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To play Devil's advocate, would you say that an abusive father who provides well for his family loves his children?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 11:14 PM
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Al Green played in my mind as soon as I read this comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 11:12 PM
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Marrying young isn't red pill at all. Quite the opposite actually. That's more Tradcon.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 03:32 AM
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That's what brought me back to the church as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 04:35 AM
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I'm sorry but, as a former fuckboy, this is totally cope lol. Women are too sexually selective on average to just conclude that they can spend a whole night dating, spending time with, drinking with, and eventually sleeping with a man then conclude that the man took an L because he wasn't "picked." That may be true for threesomes in open relationships but is not an overall widespread thing. Plus, more women complain about men "playing games" than vice versa. For the most part, if a man can attra…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 05:51 AM
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Ironically, it's also bitter women with bad relationship experiences who promote this belief too. I'm talking about women on r/TwoXChromosomes, r/AskWomenOver30, etc. who perpetuate the idea that the average man is a dirtbag looking to manipulate and use women for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 05:42 AM
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But isn't it misleading to lump a large group of men deemed inexperienced together in one bunch to the degree that a violent extremist like Elliot Rodger is your go to example? That's like me using Natalie Rupnow as evidence that single women are bad for society. Most actual virgin/inexperienced men irl have nothing to do with Elliot Rodger so this is a strawman argument. Also, ER had quite a few female fans thirsting for him online postmortem after all he did.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 05:35 AM
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Honestly, this forum has like 20 definitions of "Chad" so it's weird to even have a discourse about such an ambiguous entity. It's like having a debate about fictional characters like Loki or Homer Simpson. People will just call anybody a "Chad" as long as it fits the argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 05:27 AM
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Most virgins probably don't know the existence of this sub. This sub is basically Jerry Springer. It draws a lot of chaotic and harsh comments from either side. It's by no means representative of reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 05:18 AM
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Your “average Rutgers student” Strawman argument. I said your average college student in general mainly went to college for the career and networking benefits more than the expansive learning. That was literally what the whole post was about. Rutgers wasn't even relevant to the discussion for 98% of the post. You sure Rutgers students don’t have requirements for electives and minors? Literally addressed that in my 2nd response to you. I implied to you that electives and general education courses…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 02:47 AM
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Fact check what? I literally didn't make a single claim about Rutgers in that entire post other than bringing up that I graduated from there nearly a decade ago. Literally nothing I said had anything to do with the curriculum there. The post was about the draw of college to the majority of students. Please stay on topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 02:14 AM
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So does employment and the military. Constantly interacting with other people in general helps with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 02:10 AM
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Wrong. You are severely out of touch with reality then. College has been seen a pathway to careers that require degrees more than a true learning center for decades. Sure...there are students who are truly there to gain vast knowledge and learn a lot about different things but the lure of networking, internships, and resume building is far stronger. You realize we can all see Rutgers curriculum and requirements. What relevance does Rutger's curriculum even have to the conversation? Most universi…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 01:31 AM
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Not really. Nobody should reach that level. If he wants a relationship, though, he's pretty SOL unless he sugar dates or lowers his physical standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 12:48 AM
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But if you are an attractive guy who has clearly chosen to limit his sexual experience, you won't really be mocked. Tim Tebow entered the chat.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 12:36 AM
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Men that voluntarily remain celibate because they are content with their life are arguably respected. Yeaah......no. Respected is a major stretch. After a certain age, even that man's family will start questioning his sexuality or ability to find a wife/partner. At best, they're seen as much saner than angry Incels but that's a low bar to begin with. But, for men under say 28 years old, it can be seen as charming to be voluntarily celibate until marriage especially in religious communities.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 12:26 AM
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Speaking as an ex-fuckboy who's now very monogamous/picky, I will say that it depends on the crowd you hang around for sure. Obviously, a virgin man especially past a certain age is much more stigmatized on average but there are definitely times where sleeping around with no commitment also makes you seen as immature or a liability to a number of women. Also, being a manwhore is very much shunned in religious communities. Basically, manwhores have decent SMV but low RMV whereas virgin men provid…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 12:22 AM
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So, does that mean a Mexican immigrant with no college degree living in Queens, New York has less diverse experiences than a White college kid who moved from a pred. White rural area to a pred. White and Asian college in New England full of upper-middle class students?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 12:17 AM
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College hasn't truly been about critical thinking for decades. In fact, there's tons of echo chambers in colleges. Many young people just see college as a step into a job market that requires degrees. And that's about it. All that talk about learning esoteric knowledge and developing critical thinking skills is mostly outdated. Your average kid on campus isn't going to college to learn about Pinochet, Leninism, The Qing Dynasty, French Literature, etc. They just see which job fields require a de…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 12:11 AM
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Yeah. In all honesty, your average non-STEM and non-Ivy League grad isn't a particularly highly intellectual person. In fact, many can be astoundingly uneducated outside of their respective fields. I've met tons of people with Bachelor's degrees who couldn't do basic algebra to save their life. And many can't name half the capitals of the U.S., barely know anything about world history, etc. I find that Redditors tend to be uniquely nerdier than the average college grad which is why they may proj…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 11:55 PM
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Yep. It's a cheat code, speaking from experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 11:56 PM
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You forgot the TERF's among radfems too.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 02:07 PM
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Basically this. Many people who rather side with the Devil himself than admit that the other side can be right sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 02:05 PM
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This is why redpillers are single and why blue pillers tend not to be. Isn't "Blue bill" just an umbrella term for every non-RP man? I'm not sure how you can just lump them together like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 03:58 AM
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Maybe in religious circles but, overall, average guys don't care about that unless it's a high n-count. After a certain age, you realize it's like chasing a unicorn anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 03:29 AM
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Incels, black pillers, red pillers, mgtow, and the manosphere in general are disproportionately ethnic, because women universally consider white men the most attractive There's a shit ton of White dudes in all of the movements you mentioned. I can even name some of them: Better Bachelor, Rollo Tomassi, Jordan Peterson, Aaron Clarey, Adin Ross, Andrew Wilson, Whatever Podcast, Sandman, Nick Fuentes, etc. The main difference is that White Red Pillers and manosphere creators tend navigate political…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 01:45 AM
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I think the average guy prefers low n-count over a straight up virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 01:34 AM
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Let me quote myself here. Basically, being an older guy who's above average in some fashion whether it'd be looks, fitness, money, height, or social skills will give you leverage
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 09:25 PM
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The majority of men are 2 paychecks away from sleeping next to a dumpster.....
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 09:16 PM
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Here's my own take. I think there's a sizable minority of young women who are open to dating men significantly older than them but it can't be a "regular" older guy. He has to be relatively fit, have money, drive a cool car, and not be ugly. If a 35 year old man is overweight, balding, drives a beat-up pickup truck, and is broke, then he'll have zero pull with young women. Basically, being an older guy who's above average in some fashion whether it'd be looks, fitness, money, height, or social s…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 04:02 AM
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Good balanced post.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 03:52 AM
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To be fair to the OP, being a feminist SJW is a whole different category in itself. It's not the same as being a regular feminist. It's basically being an annoying performative activist who virtue signals about every petty thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 02:12 AM
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I don't know man. I'm pretty much a 6 and still go on many dates from women on the apps. But yeah...it's true that tall and good looking men have it on easy mode.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 02:10 AM
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It's funny because, back in college, I was dating and smashing a bunch of girls from suburban private schools who liked me because I was from Brooklyn and had an "urban" background. It was a very funny "opposites attract" situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 08:23 PM
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Honestly, not many really care about supermodels other than women and gay men. Sometimes, you'll get a Naomi Campbell, Gisele Bundchen, or Bella Hadid who crosses over but it's largely not an industry straight men are interested in. Only rich or old money men are truly big on the model look.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 06:56 PM
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This.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 09:51 PM
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Not based on who has more success with women on average.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 03:06 PM
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I mean...it's kind of true. Not just attractiveness but social status too.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 01:45 PM
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OP is just Elon Musk's burner account.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 09:49 PM
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Looks like Elon Musk's burner account didn't get the response he expected lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 09:45 PM
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FYI: That Pew Research sample was based on a very limited sample. The truth is there's no certified data on whose single or not. Just marriage stats.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 09:23 PM
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Nah. As a former school math tutor, I can tell you that it easily makes a big difference, provided the father isn't abusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 10:34 PM
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Eh...Keke is cool but her look is quite basic and has a "girl next door" vibe. I feel like I grew up around plenty of Kekes in Brooklyn. Even SZA with some of her weight problems exudes more sex appeal.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 12:42 AM
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How does one "look Republican?" Republicans just built one of the most diverse coalitions in recent history.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 12:24 AM
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Lmao...what the fuck? Please tell me you're trolling. No cute girls are turning down good-looking guys in droves because of something that frivolous.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 12:23 AM
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True. You can add athletes to the list too. I've seen many athletes with ugly faces clean up with women, especially basketball and football players.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 12:18 AM
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Eh....it's complicated. Lil Wayne even as a 5'5 gremlin will "mog" many conventionally attractive men with no social status in terms of attention from women. Ditto for Morgan Wallen with his pedo stache. Women will still go crazy over them verses a no name handsome guy even though the latter guy will still get plenty of attention of a lower scale.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 12:27 PM
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Lowkey spitting.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 12:24 AM
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Very true. Both Tankies and Alt Right types tend to do poorly with women due to their political obsessions.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 12:21 AM
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I mean....you can't just ignore the fact that countries that practiced Marxism in the past literally unarmed people who were against the government. Stalin, for example, was very Marxist. But guess it's a "no true Scotsman" scenario.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 12:17 AM
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You do realize that many conservative women are very pro-Life right? Supporting abortion would absolutely be a deal breaker for many of the religious ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 12:08 AM
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Also, it completely ignores how much Pro-Life support comes from women....particularly Christian White women. It's the elephant in the room that nobody wants to address because it's easier to blame men. I even made a thread a while back on here about how married women deserve the same scorn that lonely men due in feminist circles if we're going off of voting patterns.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 12:04 AM
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Bro says this while posting zero data lmao. And don't even think about posting that debunked Pew Research garbage that was exposed as polling an extremely limited sample and wasn't backed by any census data.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 01:31 PM
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Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 01:29 PM
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Flavor of Love | Season 1 Episode 1 | Reality TV Full Episodes
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 02:53 AM
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Problem is unless I saw what you actually look like and what these women look like, this is all just random talk and opinion based. I'm not asking to see you either, I'm just stating a lot of this is meaningless talk. Understood. I have a hand pic in my profile but I'm not keen on sharing any facial pics yet on here. You're either above average and succeeding with women who are average to above average or average looking and able to succeed with average looking women due to good personality trai…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 01:23 AM
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6.5 is totally in the average range. Also, I mentioned before that I'm not White. According to the Red Pill and dating stats, non-White men are less desirable than White men in the U.S. dating world. So, that needs to be factored in as well. Case in point, I'm punching above my weight. I just had a conversation on Hinge with a Blonde college chick, telling corny jokes about her selfies that amused her somehow.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 09:51 PM
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They outright admit too that the so-called "patriarchy" only benefits men who are wealthy and have power which means that it's actually a plutocracy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 05:06 PM
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Calling a 12 year old boy an "Incel" is a huge stretch. It's always been normal for kids that young to be inexperienced compared to high schoolers and college students. 17 is the average age men lose their virginity in the U.S. It's like calling a 12 year old girl who thinks having kids is gross a "cat lady."
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 04:32 PM
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Not in 2025. Tate is largely a joke and a meme to actual school aged kids these days. A lot of his "fans" are being completely ironic. Source: Spoke to actual young people about him.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 04:20 PM
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I don't know. I think hookups involve vibes, social skills, and alcohol/drugs as much as looks itself. I remember "outslaying" actual Chad looking guys at clubs and bars just because I was a smooth talker and knew how to dance, And I used to be a raging alcoholic which made me very low-inhib. They'd even call me the "lady's man" of our clique despite them having a height and looks advantage over me. It's likely truer for the hookup apps like Tinder though.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/25 10:38 PM
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Yup. I remember those days.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/25 10:35 PM
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It's tricky. I hooked up with tons of women and I'm pretty much an average Joe lookswise who's only 5'9. I look like I could be Donald Glover's cousin and smashed tons of girls back when I was a party animal and alcoholic. I still get many offers for sex on the apps even from girls dating guys more attractive them me but I stopped partaking in hookup culture around 5 years ago because of a combo of religion and wanting a LTR. I do think looks definitely matter when it comes to casual sex but I d…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/25 10:16 PM
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The difference is that men are already called "shallow" "dogs", "think with our penis", "simps", etc. 24/7 so there's no pretense that men have a strong conscious that filters out toxic women who are attractive. Women, however, have been promoted as the "fair" gender who values personality, kindness, respect for women, feminism, etc. as much as looks which many men can readily see with their own 2 eyes is 🧢🧢. If women were said to be as equally shallow and looks-focused as men, there wouldn't be…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 03:06 AM
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I mean....yes there is? You can't say the bar is in hell but also claim that men need good personalities to get relationships. A bar being in hell means that Joe Schmuck can be a total dickhead and sexist douche and it won't be an issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 11:24 PM
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Again, you're not being realistic. Joe The Plumber in Ohio at the age of 53 looks much worse than Elon. Nobody's saying Elon is a sex symbol but that, compared to the average Joe his age, he punches above his weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 11:49 AM
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But how well did things work out with those hot girls? It's hit or miss tbh. For half of time, I've Facetimed, chatted with them almost daily on my phone/Whatsapp, and met a few irl. Also, the girls from overseas are some of the most aggressive when asking me to have a relationship with them albeit the logistics of going overseas to meet them makes it complex. The other half were honestly more flaky. We'd still have conversations and such but it didn't really lead anywhere or they exposed themse…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 11:47 AM
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Eh....I wouldn't go that far. OLD did change the game but you can still get lucky if you play the numbers game or self improve. I'm definitely not conventionally attractive with my thick eyebrows, being only 5'9(and having that on my profiles), wearing glasses, a racial minority, and working a boring job(accounting) yet I get matches with a lot of decent looking women both from the U.S. and overseas in countries like Venezuela, Philippines, Mexico, Colombia, and Brazil. I could even DM you some …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 03:33 AM
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Dude damn near looks like Fabio compared to the average middle aged dad in the Midwest. Goodness....this is such a chronically online take lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 03:28 AM
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Uhh....no?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 03:27 AM
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So......a super rich 6'2 White guy who's also one of the most influential(for better or worse) CEO's of the 21st century qualifies as an "Incel?" My goodness.....the term lost all of its meaning lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 02:48 AM
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But why do people usually say "that's why no women like them" regarding Incels? It seems like many people do associate Incels with lonely and/or sexless men even if there's people like Tate who pander to that ideology but are actually womanizers.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 02:42 AM
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Underrated post. Women on PPD one day: "The bar is in hell for men in relationships." Women on PPD the next day: "Of course men who can't get in relationships usually have bad personalities."
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 02:33 AM
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I agree. Plus, a lot of it is just virtue signaling.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 01:41 AM
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The average age young men lose their virginity is 17. What the hell are you talking about lol?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 01:08 AM
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True.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 01:02 AM
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*oligarchs*
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 12:57 AM
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You just described a below average man.....
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 12:03 AM
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I remember being pressured to engage to an ex of mines who was literally bipolar. I'm not talking social media "bipolar" which means having a quirky personality or random temper issues. I'm talking medically bipolar and having to take meds for it. On bad days, my life would literally be in danger and I even had friends tell me that I should've called the cops of her certain days. She's chased after me with a knife, tried to tackle me, and scratched my face with her nails many times. I gave her n…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 01:16 AM
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Absolutely. I'm 30, have a good job, live in my own home, and live a pretty stable life. Nobody cares about me being single. Some people get shocked that I'm not married yet but I'm still overall very respected by people. I honestly think your vibe and how you live your life overall matters more in the grand scheme of things. Nobody cares about Billy Bob in a poor, rural area from West Virginia marrying his high school sweetheart, Billy Jean, at 18 years old. That's because Billy Bob has no real…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 11:00 PM
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When I was in college, I knew a lot of nerdy White and Asian Deans list students who rapped on the side and put their music on Soundcloud. The art of rapping itself is so mainstream, it's not even funny. Even Roseann Barr of all people rapped at a Trump rally.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 11:54 PM
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This has to be a joke.....
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 04:52 AM
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Tbh, if you count unmarried couples or FWB's, that's not too far fetched.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 03:56 AM
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I think I've encountered the type of guys you're talking about. I just never really associated them with being fuckboys. Those sound more like womanizers. Womanizers tend to be more manipulative and deceitful.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 02:29 AM
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As a former fuckboy, I think you're conflating 2 different groups here. Fuckboys when I was in college were the dudes who were upfront about wanting to hook up, dance, drink, get high, head back home, and get laid and there was never any pretense about that. I don't recall ever trying to play up being a stereotypical "nice guy" during that phase of mines but maybe we're using the term in different ways. Obviously, you had to have a charismatic and fun personality but you weren't really any nicer…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 12:00 AM
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I remember watching an old Jay-Z interview back in the day where he sounded awkward and nervous af during the whole interview and none of that coolness you heard on the songs was exemplified at all. It was quite an eye opener. Dude literally came off as a shy nerd trying to seem cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 11:37 PM
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To be fair, that's basically all of legacy media.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 02:09 AM
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There's an old hip hop phrase that goes "It ain't tricking if you got it." A man working a regular 9-5 job will be more in demand by non-fat attractive women overseas than by the same demographic in the U.S. on average. Gold diggers in the West are looking for 6 figures generally speaking.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 01:30 AM
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Context is important. I don't fuck as much as I used to but that has more to do with me being pickier than having less options. I've changed my whole lifestyle to focus more on LTR's than casual sex so I've turned down many hookup options who didn't want a real relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 12:55 AM
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nice tall guy > asshole short guy But Kendrick still beat Drake.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 12:48 AM
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Super Mario Bros
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 10:13 PM
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Luigi Mangione entered the chat.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 10:08 PM
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Ironically, sugar dating is very traditional in conception despite drawing in lots of non-traditional people.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 10:07 PM
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"My mind's telling me noooooo.....but my boooody......my booody's tell me yeeees!"
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 10:02 PM
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I agree. I swear some people on this sub look at any White dude with tattoos or non-nerdy Black/Latino guy and assume he's a thug, player, or bad boy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 09:45 PM
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Elon has the biggest harem in modern history.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 09:41 PM
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Surprised you didn't get called a "pick me" yet tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 03:49 AM
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I agree. But, at that point, that's not even what people are referring to when they push the "Black men like fat women" stereotype. Cause even Adrienne Bailon was considered "obese" at one point despite looking fit because she's 4'11.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 03:48 AM
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Cap. That's mostly broke Black men who either have no other options or are looking for a meal ticket. Middle class Black areas in the U.S. are full of fit Black couples. Even in Africa, slim-thicc is vastly preferred over fat. Those African guys you see going after obese women are usually looking for a green card or a sugar mama. Traditional African men are more into women have curvy bodies but still aren't plump.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 03:43 AM
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No offense but I know quite a few obese women who are "sugar mamas" to broke men who used to be on drugs or incarcerated.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 03:39 AM
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That is correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 01:18 PM
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You mean the same executives who are generally married or have LTR's?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 05:14 AM
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65 year old sugar daddies entered the chat.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 12:47 AM
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Reddit in general in a nutshell.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 12:46 AM
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Or maybe the DNC had a mediocre strategy where they had Biden run for a 2nd term then replaced him in the final hour with an unpopular VP who ranked lowest in the 2020 DNC primary. Trump didn't gain much new voters. But Kamala made a lot of Dems stay home. What you're describing isn't even a top 3 reason why the election went the way it did according to the actual surveys. You can put lipstick on a pig but it's still a pig. The media made Kamala out to be more popular with voters than she actual…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 03:05 AM
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Yeah. Obama still deported the most people of any President in the 21st century even over Trump's 1st term. Trump might surpass that in his 2nd term but who knows? But the media made sure to bury that information about Obama alongside his war crimes and Wall Street bailouts.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 11:53 PM
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Yeah. Obama still deported the most people of any President in the 21st century even over Trump's 1st term. Trump might surpass that in his 2nd term but who knows? But the media made sure to bury that information about Obama alongside his war crimes and Wall Street bailouts.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 11:53 PM
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So....you're a Tankie essentially?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 11:47 PM
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So do Democrats. They only cater to the very rich and the extreme poor. Average Americans are lower-middle class or working class and neither party explicitly helps them out.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 11:46 PM
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I'm amazed by how many people forget that Obama was known as the "Deporter In Chief" for a long time before Trump.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 11:45 PM
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Shhhh....you're preaching too much.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 11:44 PM
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The manosphere is nowhere near powerful enough to win an election lmao. Trump won Middle America and made gains with every minority group. That can't be pinned on "the manosphere." 53% of White women voted for Trump. Were they pulled in by "the manosphere?"
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 11:42 PM
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I agree. I think it depends on what area you live in tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 04:34 AM
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Ngl...I don't think I've ever seen people bring up Kanye's height.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 07:19 AM
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Gen Z of both genders are the least sexually promiscuous generation since the Silent generation. Unless you want to conclude that every decade of the U.S. after the 50's is a dystopian nightmare because of the "sexual revolution", I call cap. Even before the 60's, many people were not virgins until marriage unless they were in religious and/or rural communities.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 11:32 PM
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Emotional support =/= emotional labor. Take it from a guy who used to date a Bipolar girl. Too much emotional labor in a relationship can be mentally and physically draining and take away from the positive aspects of a relationship. Sometimes, people are better off talking to their friends/family or seeking counseling and therapy where they can effectively address their emotional needs instead of solely relying on their partner for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 11:27 PM
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Source? Not saying online dating hasn't increased but I'm very dubious over this claim. The majority of people I know irl who've gotten married or lived together in LTR's have known each other for an extended period of time from school, work, church, social groups, etc. as opposed to say....Tinder or Hinge. A lot of online dating is casual and short term and there's a lot of slim pickings even if you do get matches. I could see this being true for say.....Manhattan or Downtown Los Angeles where …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 11:13 PM
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There's numerous ways to self improve. Only a minority of men are truly that ugly or disabled.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 08:12 PM
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Middle class? Middle class is just barely above being working class, unless you mean upper-middle class. Either way, the usage of "incel" online is not a class thing at all. It's mainly just a shitposting term that people online use to dismiss the opinions any man that they disagree with.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 07:57 PM
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If one's an unattractive neckbeard with poor social skills and an average paying job, they simply come across as hypocrites when complaining about that. Why would they expect decent looking young women to be easy for them to attain? Why should it be a "travesty" for them to be relegated to dating women with similar flaws as them?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 06:30 PM
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It's just a standup bit where Bill Cosby jokes about how many people perceive getting drunk, partying hard, and having hangovers as the epitome of having fun or having a good time.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 07:45 PM
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Obligatory. Bill Cosby on Drinking, Getting Drunk and Having a Good Time
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 01:15 AM
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Yup. You have unattractive neckbeards claiming that it's a travesty that they have to settle for "landwhales" or "post wall" women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 11:19 PM
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Isn't it a stereotype that fat women give the best BJs?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 11:17 PM
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I see you missed the "/sarc" part of my post. I was being sarcastic.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 10:56 PM
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B-But let's see how you'll act if Chris Evans sends you DM's on IG. /sarc.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 10:31 PM
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Honestly, it varies depending on the demographic. Where I grew up, being a preacher carried high status and many women loved the idea of finding a "man of God" for a husband. I even have an older cousin who's a pastor and he's been remarried literally close to 10 times for this reason. People in his church just turn a blind eye to it because he "repented." But, on a technical level, many men can achieve "high status" depending on the type of women they're trying to appeal to.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 10:25 PM
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This. Even I'm considered "high status" by certain people and I'm just an accountant who drives a 10 year old Corolla.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 10:20 PM
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Eh....even that's not guaranteed.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 01:26 PM
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Depends on what you mean by "manipulative dick." I remember there was a push by modern feminists a while ago claiming that colleges were a "haven" for date rape due to certain college girls sleeping with guys while intoxicated/on drugs or regretting the casual sex they had with male students. Of course, there was a minority of cases of actual rape involved but the whole "1 out of 4 college girls gets raped" stat that they were pushing was a blatant manipulation of what actually transpired most o…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 07:00 PM
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I mean.....it's more so that money and status alone won't guarantee success. But it's definitely a huge boost when it comes to securing LTR's and marriages. If you're a broke man with no social status, you're basically SOL for getting into stable relationships. This is also very dependent on age. When you're a teenager or college student, you can get laid or have a girlfriend while working a dead end job and not having much status. Most college students are broke so the main factors that matter …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 04:26 PM
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I live in Texas too.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 04:07 PM
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My mom is from rural South Carolina born to sharecropper parents. She still talks "country" to this day despite moving to the East Coast. Nobody sees her as a "redneck" at all even though her accent still gets pointed out by people(especially foreigners who claim that they can tell she's not from New York). Redneck is 90% of the time used to describe rural and/or Southern Whites.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 03:59 PM
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To be fair, Trump diversified his immigrant focus to also include Central/South Americans, Haitians, Africans, Middle Easterners, and the Chinese. In fact, he said that he would prioritize deporting illegal Chinese crossing the border first to make sure we're not being spied on or something of that nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 01:28 PM
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She's just talking out of her neck. I literally told her that I know Christian owned homeless shelters and she just ignored that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 01:20 PM
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Unlike you, I've actually been involved in some of these non-profit Christian organizations and I'm telling you that that's not usually the case at all. For the most part, the focus is on helping those in need and allocating resources to do that. Religion will largely not even come up when these groups get busy unless inquired about it. Missionaries who travel to other countries also tend to be involved in major projects to help those in need and conversion is not even close to a "requirement." …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 05:22 AM
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"Pull" is a strong word but they could possibly find a plain Jane to date if they put themselves out there and pursue.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 05:14 AM
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Not really the case in the U.S. tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 05:12 AM
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I still can't get over how certain feminists framed Mike Pence's woman rule as "sexist."
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 05:11 AM
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Nobody calls rural Non-Whites "rednecks" lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 05:09 AM
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Can't speak for Caritas but many Christian charities I've personally been involved with help everybody ranging from poor immigrants, single moms, the elderly, the disabled, etc. I've never seen them try to create a litmus test on who they can help.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 05:07 AM
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This is especially strong on Reddit where people are comfortable mocking and shunning working class and rural people but only if they're White(Many Redditors don't even know that many Blacks, Mexicans, and Native Americans live in rural areas.)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 05:00 AM
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The average age men lose their virginity in the U.S. is still 17 years old and stats that measure annual rates of having sex show that the majority of young men still get laid. So, even if what you're saying is true, it means that Gen Z men are having more issues getting LTR's and marriages than dates/sex. And that's tough but not as bleak as people make it seem. Marriage is increasingly becoming delayed by age due to finances and a decline in shotgun weddings.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 06:34 PM
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Dating is pretty much over for most average men in America. What part of America do you live in where this is actually a widespread reality and not just an assumption made by doomscrolling?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 06:23 PM
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Can you name me a country that hasn't crumbled and failed by your standards?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 06:21 PM
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Actually, many tall men are insecure but not in the way you think. There's many tall men who haven't accomplished anything meaningful in their lives who cling to their height as a major accomplishment and act egotistical because of it. Basically, it's not tall men in general but it's the ones who cling to it more than anything else. I've met some men like that irl too. They constantly bring up how they're tall even in conversations where it's not warranted at all. Women are just okay with tolera…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 08:15 AM
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Face probably.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 08:12 AM
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What's funny is that I've noticed quite a few tall men treating their height like a personality and acting egotistical about it which technically reeks of insecurity but you never see women bring that up or use it as an excuse to not date tall men anymore. It's similar to how men are more forgiving of young women having baggage than older women. People just need to be more candid about this sort of thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 08:11 AM
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There's truth to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 08:07 AM
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At 5'4, you might as well level up on your looks and finances as much as possible or find a girlfriend overseas.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 08:07 AM
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I'm pretty sure many of those dudes are shut-ins anyway. Also, actions > words. Some of the most abusive men have the greatest personalities. I've seen that first hand too.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 03:26 AM
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You obviously have never watched True Crime material if you think most abusive or sexist men walk around like mustache twirling villains in their everyday life.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 03:11 AM
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It still validates the OP's claim though because it means that being able to detect how bad or toxic a man is isn't guaranteed.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 03:08 AM
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Watches? What man under the age of 50 even wears watches like that in 2024? This is such an odd take. This sub constantly tells people to "touch grass" yet proceeds to say some of the most out of touch things I've ever heard lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 03:05 AM
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True. I remember hanging out in a bar and this older guy in his 50's was semi drunk and started talking openly about how teenage girls these days have better tits and asses than girls when he was growing up. And he talked about how, when he passes by college campuses, he just checks out the girls walking around on campus when his wife isn't with him. Everybody in the bar just looked as him like "Wtf?!" and called him out for his comments. Ironically, I was the one who told other guys in his age …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 09:56 PM
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Yeah....either the people were trolling to get under his skin or he's mismeasured himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 09:30 PM
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Honestly, if you play the numbers game, it'll happen. I actually mainly get matches from women in their early-mid 20's as a 30 year old man but, at the same time, I look a bit younger than I actually am and I'm non-ugly and pretty successful. But I do believe that the notion that the average 20 something woman desires men in their 30's more than men in their 20's is greatly exaggerated in RP spaces. Believe me, a young dude with a pretty boy look working at Home Depot will clean up with hot youn…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 04:40 PM
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Very true.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 10:19 AM
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Honestly, if you plan on starting a family, it's highly recommended to raise your kids in a married household.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 10:08 AM
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I don't know. People irl think I'm funny and laugh at some of the things I say and I'm only slightly above average looking. I think the charisma and humor can make guys like myself appear more attractive than we normally would be perceived if we were shy and boring. One of my exes even said that my humor is what drew her to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 10:07 AM
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I think many young women DO like pretty boys relatively speaking but those pretty boys are still supposed to be conventionally attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 09:58 AM
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Some men got 99 options and a bitch ain't one.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 01:17 AM
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I think you said you were Hispanic before. How are your old school minded or religious relatives reacting to you being a "cat lady?" I'm a successful bachelor who has over 20 preachers in my family and I get asked when I'm getting married at every family gathering lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 08:27 PM
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Out of curiosity, do you have kids?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 08:23 PM
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That's been my experience too. Party people are generally social/outgoing people.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 12:33 PM
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Relevant. 2 Dads Shoot Each Other’s Daughters in Road Rage Incident: Cops - YouTube
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 11:13 AM
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Relevant. 2 Dads Shoot Each Other’s Daughters in Road Rage Incident: Cops - YouTube
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 11:12 AM
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Currently, I live in Houston.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 09:51 PM
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It's crazy how us average height guys get COMPLETELY left out of the conversation despite us being the majority of the U.S.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 09:50 PM
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Yet when men pursue women overseas using the exact same logic as you did, they're the bad guys lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 09:48 PM
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Making under $100k a year means you need to live with roommates. Sheesh.....I know Reddit is in a bubble but this is legit one of the most retarded and sheltered things I've ever read on here.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 09:35 PM
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So, you've never seen men speak on the negative impacts of fatherlessness, double standards in bodyshaming(esp. regarding height/dick size), bias in family courts, depression/mental health, suicide rates, decline in educational achievement, financial problems, substance abuse, double standards on domestic violence, tolerated misandry, biases in sentencing, etc? You've ONLY have seen men talking about getting laid as the only societal issue we face? If so, I'd argue you're simply not listening to…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 08:46 AM
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Why are all of men's problems about women being promiscious and men not getting as much sex as they want? You were raising some valid points but discredited yourself with this sole question. This sounds out of touch from what the discourse usually entails. Just spend some time on r/MensLib or ask questions there to get better insight. This sub is primarily for shitposting and ragebait with some debates thrown in.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 08:18 AM
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This.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 11:54 PM
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We're talking about 2 consenting adults making their own decisions to get into a relationship. Plenty of men get rejected or friendzoned overseas. The fact that you can compare it to something evil is borderline xenophobic. The KKK used to also complain about interracial couples and used similar levels of virtue signaling to condemn them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 04:47 AM
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Sheesh. That's such an odd way of viewing it. I'm glad the average woman doesn't see it that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 10:46 AM
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Uhh......that's exactly what I said?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 10:26 AM
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Lol...are you serious? Unless the past relationships were abusive or toxic in nature or involves children, this is a weird take. Not every relationship works out perfectly. Sometimes, going through trial and error helps you better figure out what you truly want in a relationship. If anything, the inexperienced guy is more likely to have some emotional baggage as he ages due to overthinking or overstressing the need for a relationship or sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 10:24 AM
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It's a bigger positive than being inexperienced unless you're Mormon though.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 10:03 AM
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There's still ambiguity over that stat because it's based on a sampling of people surveyed by the Pew Research Center and not based on any census data. Other stats show that it's still normal for average men to have sex or lose their virginity in their teens so average young guys are still getting around even if they're "single."
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 10:02 AM
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4th wave feminism and poor Mexican/Black communities unironically
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 03:38 AM
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I noticed that the epidemic of female teachers sleeping with or molesting underaged male students is NEVER used to smear women as a whole. They're correctly criticized and shunned on an individual basis. But we still get constant warnings about "creepy uncles" and men being natural predators based on the actions of a minority of men. I was molested by 2 grown women as a 10 year old kid. I obviously don't associate normal women with them at all but I just find the mainstream double standard in em…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 03:34 AM
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Yet a couple of mentally ill men who makes crazy comments will often be used as a talking point for "the patriarchy" or modern men in the MSN.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 03:30 AM
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Sugar babies aren't sex workers. In fact, some of them push for sexless relationships with their sugar daddies.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 03:28 AM
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Tbh, I've seen many men in the gym and Blue collar jobs give simple compliments to other men based on their work ethic or fitness.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 03:27 AM
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I remember some women I've met with being amazed that I can cook. And I basically only learned to cook during the pandemic for survival.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 11:00 PM
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I mean it doesn't help that women are literally thirsting over a murderer on social media right now lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 10:49 PM
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Pretty true tbh. I was having the most casual sex back when I was working dead end jobs and living with 5 other people in a home.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 10:35 PM
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This post is so out of touch, it's almost comical.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 01:52 AM
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The "red pill" itself is ambiguous with many opposing factions and the term didn't even exist until the Matrix came out. It was a co-opted term from the Y2K era that got used on the Internet. Self improvement, pickup artistry, and focusing on looks long predates what is now called the "red pill." It'd be akin to saying that having charisma is a Gen Z trend because they popularized the phrase "rizz."
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 01:44 AM
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That's why I enjoyed the video that the FEMALE content creator ShoeOnHead made about men's problems in modern society.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 01:38 AM
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Eh....when I was in elementary and middle school, teachers were alarmed by boys watching South Park and Family Guy and listening to Eminem and 50 Cent. And Gen X had the "Satanic Panic" in the 80's. People have always been concerned about boys becoming negatively influenced for a long time in recent history.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 01:35 AM
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Strong is the key word here. A lot of liberal men in the mainstream either come across as feeble or they're Ivory Tower Hollywood guys who are out of touch with working class men. Ironically, Bill Burr is a liberal guy who comes the closest to seeming like a grounded and relatable man who's not caught up in the Hollywood bubble or being PC but he stays out of the spotlight a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 01:33 AM
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This. Right Wing politicians only like young men who are straight, have money/status, have a masculine image, and share all of their sociopolitical views. Both sides pander to certain people for votes while pulling baits and switches.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 10:30 PM
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Any stats backing this up? That last marriage stat I've seen from like 12-13 years ago showed that Latinos of both genders married Non-Hispanics at a rate of less than 30%. Study: Interracial marriage, acceptance growing | CNN And that very much lines up with my own experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 03:38 AM
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Kinda true. I do get matches on apps but half of them only want sex when I'm currently LTR oriented. I have met some women who I click with offline though. I've also been talking to one of my exes a lot lately on the phone and social media. Maybe that's a sign.....
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 03:29 AM
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It's funny because I got laid the most in my college years when I was working sales jobs that were paying me scraps for long hours and I was eating Ramen and Easy Mac every other night.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 02:20 AM
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So, why aren't Hispanic men widely considered "ugly" despite being a shorter height than many other men?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 01:54 AM
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Lil Wayne entered the chat.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 01:53 AM
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Yep. My mom was working in the farms of rural South Carolina for 12 hour days along with her sharecropper dad and 8 siblings. But I'm not sure if Blacks in the rural South were factored into those stats.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 11:20 PM
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This is primarily a function of late stage capitalism, not feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 06:55 AM
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Being nice/gentlemanly is not automatically incompatible with being freaky. Yup. Just look at pastors.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 06:53 AM
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This.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 06:49 PM
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Ironically, it's usually women on gossip oriented social media who constantly speculate over the sexual orientation of men or whether they're on the DL or not. Hell, it's not even just the Internet. I've seen tons of women in my own family gossip about whether they think a man is "gay" or not based on his mannerisms or looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 06:13 AM
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Grace Jones was "unconventional" and was a sex symbol back in the day.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 06:09 AM
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Tons of people act badly due to their own insecurity, including tall men and hot women. Also, short men are still within a minority of men so it makes no sense to waste time complaining about a certain type of short man when women can simply look at other options. It'd be like me whining endlessly about bipolar women just because one of my exes was bipolar despite the average woman not having that mental condition.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 06:04 AM
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I mean...isn't that true vice versa too? How many times have we seen certain women bitching about short men and their "Napoleon complexes" constantly?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 12:07 AM
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National Exit Polls: Election 2024 Results Look again. White male college grads still favored Trump and White female college grads were close to 50/50.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 12:04 AM
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Look at the exit polls again. College educated White men still voted Trump over Harris. And college educated voters overall weren't heavily skewed towards either candidate. Funny how the Left is scapegoating the "poorly educated" in the current blame game while citing zero stats backing it up. Harris won both the lowest and highest income voters in this election.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 08:47 PM
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Actually, people largely voted for abortion rights on their state ballots.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 08:40 PM
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So, young Black men voted more GOP than Asians and Latina women in an election with a (half) Black nominee? That's kinda crazy ngl.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 08:38 PM
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Women voted close to 50/50 in this election cycle so I'm not even sure what this means.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 08:32 PM
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Model is a stretch but it's true that a lot of guys don't care for the "tom boy" look or short haired women(unless they can really pull it off like Lupita N'yongo). It is what it is. But I think if you befriend a number of men who share your hobbies, some will be able to fall for you or feel compatible with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 07:54 PM
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This. And it should be noted that "settling" has to have a realistic connotation to it. A 35 year old balding chubby guy making 55k yearly can't claim he's "settling" if the main women he attracts are fat plain faced women in their 30's. He either needs to lose weight and self improve his looks/job or go after his options.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 07:49 PM
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Very true.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 11:53 PM
1

Huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 11:34 PM
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Depends. One of the biggest Red Pill grifters is actually a major playboy irl and he has tons of videos humble bragging about his dating success and the thirsty DM's he gets from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 10:47 PM
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It's pretty niche in South Korea too. South Korea has more than 50 million people. 4B's impact on South Korea's birth rate is negligible and it has more to do with heavy work culture, high COL, and people checking out of social events no differently from Japan where there is no 4B movement. Italy also has a super low birth rate for a similar reason. I guess that means Italian women and men hate each other huh? Or Japanese women and men hate each other? Or Polish men and women hate each other? Hm…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 07:40 PM
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Athletic Chad guys getting laid aren't attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 07:20 PM
1

4B is a niche online movement.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 07:11 PM
1

Many parents are hated by their kids. That means nothing lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 07:01 PM
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She's honestly become more "based" in general. It's only a matter of time before she gets called a "pick me" by other women or Blue pillers on here.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 02:07 PM
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Your first point makes no sense at all. The involuntarily part literally means that the man couldn't naturally attract women for sex to begin with. Men aren't Incels if they take a break from sex or practice celibacy on their own terms.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 02:05 PM
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This.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 01:58 PM
1

Well, that seems to be more of an issue there than America.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 01:53 PM
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Which is funny because "incel" is mainly a sting to lonely men who get zero attention or pussy from women. Normal sex having men treat the insult the same way as being called a "faggot" back in the 90's/2000's era.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 01:50 PM
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Immigration? What in the world does that have to do with modern dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 08:35 AM
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That has nothing to do with "4B." Birth rates are cratering globally because of increasing COL, long work hours, and less pressure for people to marry and have kids at a young ages.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 10:48 PM
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I remember dating a legitimately bipolar girl who would sometimes try to bite and choke me during her "episodes" and we could go from me literally fighting for my life(not fighting her but defending myself from attacks) to having sex that same night. It was quite a conundrum. I'm glad we've both moved on though.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 02:48 PM
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Regarding your first point, there is a "divestor" movement online that tells WOC to get with any White man, no matter how gutter trash, racist, or undesirable he is just for bragging rights. So, the "fetish" goes both ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 02:41 PM
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Women aren't "boycotting" men in mass anytime soon.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 04:20 AM
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Female "solidarity" will remain a meme until modern feminists recognize that religious women aren't traitors, conservative women aren't traitors, women who don't ID as "intersectional feminists" aren't traitors, Pro-Life women aren't traitors, TERF's aren't traitors, etc. Because they take on this weird binary view driven by liberal echo chambers like the female subs on Reddit that women are supposed to act and behave a certain way, solidarity isn't truly possible. After all, these women have ze…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 02:47 AM
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It's literally full of single and unmarried grown women and they have just as much threads about dating, marriage, and sex which often includes tons of venting as they do about celebrity gossip. It was even labeled as being a hotspot for "femcels" on a watchdog list for Incels/Femcels due to this very reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 01:15 AM
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LipstickAlley is a whole website full of single women in their 30's and 40's and it's arguably the most bitter and miserable place on the whole Internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 10:08 PM
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Yep. I've seen exactly what you're seen. I feel like a lot of Liberal women online have this belief that most women are inherently liberal/radfem on the inside and automatically repulsed by men who aren't Liberal. Hence, why they tend to resort to calling conservative women traitors or grifters with "internalized misogyny." In reality, there's tons of apolitical people in both genders who are more driven by superficial factors like looks, social groups, money, personality, etc. than politics and…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 05:41 PM
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How do we know all those attention seeking women on Tik Tok and social media claiming to be part of "4B" are actually living by their words? Hell, I remember a woman on r/TwoXChromosomes got exposed claiming she had a boyfriend while claiming to be "4B" which makes zero sense lmao. Also, if more Liberal women refrain from sex, relationships, marriage, and kids, it becomes even more of a demographic victory for conservatives ironically.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 05:16 PM
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Also, it accelerates conservatism even more because socially conservative and religious women will never go 4B.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 05:09 PM
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MGTOW claimed that they were on a "strike" to change marriage and family court laws too with zero real world impact. OP is right. Both movements are driven by undesirable narcissists who struggled to have decent relationships from the get go. Unattractive radfem women who couldn't attract a decent man to save their life now get to claim that their status of being perpetually single/unmarried is voluntarily due to a "movement" as a form of cope. Just like with MGTOW types on the other side.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 05:04 PM
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By that I mean that more and more women are choosing to remain single and childless. As James Carville has famously said "It's the economy stupid." More men and women are marrying later in life or having less kids because their COL has skyrocketed.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 04:43 PM
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True but she's talking about women who keep talking about joining the 4B movement or making claims about how this supposed movement will take over the West.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 04:40 PM
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Also, tons of women in the U.S. are conservative, socially or politically. I live in Texas which is the 2nd largest state and most women here still largely value relationships and family. And I see young couples all the time in spite of the viral posts about Gen Z's alleged "gender war." It's even a running joke here that finding a single Mexican woman with no kids over 25 is damn near impossible as stereotypical as that sounds.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 04:34 PM
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To be fair, Argentina is one of the most modernized countries in Latin America and these movements are products of modernity.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 04:30 PM
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I didn't say I felt that way. I was talking about religious and/or conservative women who usually feel that way about abortion.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 02:22 AM
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Forced monogamy or being pressured to marry young or be in an arranged marriage is often factored into claims of oppression of women. Also, religious women view abortion very differently from secular women. They see it as killing babies and would ironically argue that it's oppressive. But I guess religious or conservative women don't count as women in this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 12:37 AM
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Well, since women on Reddit brag about how young women are outpacing young men in every metric, that might change in the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 12:33 AM
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White women are the 2nd largest conservative voting bloc in the U.S. after White men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 12:31 AM
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Oh...here we go with the "capitalist" nonsense again. You do realize Scandinavian leaders literally got on Bernie's case for falsely labeling them "socialist" right?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 12:30 AM
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Most states voted for abortion rights when left on the voting ballot, including Florida. Also, I thought women here bragged about not needing a man for anything and being better educated than men? Would an "oppressive" country make it easy to do that?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 12:28 AM
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Why would they need to unless they're just using it to bash people over the head? It's usually either a defense mechanism against certain men who imply that all unmarried women are bitter cat ladies or a coping mechanism meant to give women who have a hard time finding a decent LTR or husband feelings of encouragement or empowerment. Personally I don't need a study to back up how unhappy I was engaging in romantic relationships with men and how much happier I am no longer engaging and forcing my…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 07:10 PM
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I get matches with women out of my league on OLD and I'm not a Chad at all. As long as you aren't straight ugly and play the numbers game and message first/take initiative, you will get matches. Besides, OLD apps are usually sausage fests which plays a role too.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 07:00 PM
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I agree. It's also funny how single moms are never counted as "single" in these conversations despite it literally being in their name. We just assume "single women" refers to young childless yuppie women when there's many poor women, single moms, divorced/widowed women, etc. who are single and miserable.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 06:58 PM
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I totally disagree albeit I think it goes beyond marriage. A lot of young women are not doing well mentally or socially. It's funny too because women here usually bring up how the "loneliness crisis" isn't gendered when men complain about the rise of lonely men but then turn around and act like it's only a male phenomenon when it's convenient. It's actually quite funny to witness but goes to show that many people here don't actually want to debate but simply want to make their side(pill or gende…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 05:46 PM
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Just for clarity, that study has long been debunked. It actually got corrected to showcase that women in good marriages are the happiest demographic followed by single women followed by women in bad marriages. The stat that the study based the initial claim on was entirely taken out of context and had to be corrected. Single women on Reddit still cling to it though for their own biased reasons just like single men with the "80/20" study from OkCupid that's also been taken out of context.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 05:34 PM
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Exactly. Unless you're a rich guy or live in a very cheap rural area, being traditional is very costly, time consuming, and stressful. These young men who are broke working dead end jobs and can barely support themselves but still want tradwives are straight up delusional. People need to stop conflating women with jobs for "boss babes." There's a whole spectrum between housewives and ballbusters.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 05:08 PM
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This tbh. I actually follow a podcast centered around young trad couples and I had to do a double check when a number of men said that they never kissed their wives until their wedding day, never mind have sex. God bless them because I would not have that type of restraint, especially given the factor that the marriage may not even work out.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 05:05 PM
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Yep. I also crack up when people think Hispanic women are generally tradwives. Most Hispanic women I know are hustlers who work many jobs like their male counterparts.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 05:02 PM
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True. It depends on the subgroup.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 03:33 AM
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Could be the case. I remember it was even a running gag in my previous location that rich people will frequently shop at Goodwill and consignment stores while the working class will buy a lot of luxury brands and clothes.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 02:47 AM
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I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 02:45 AM
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Fair point.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 02:41 AM
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Witch hunt? Lol. I only tagged you because I just responded to you and was using what you were saying as a point of reference.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 01:04 AM
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I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 12:39 AM
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Indeed. u/Financial_Leave4411 is probably one of those "soft life" influencers who thinks shopping at Whole Foods and dressing like a 1950's tradwife will attract "old money" guys who will spoil women and give them anything they want without hesitation. In reality, "old money" rich men tend to marry within their group/class and tend to be very stingy with their money, often frowning upon overspending on luxury brands and constant vacations that aren't business/job related. Also, they'll still ex…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 12:16 AM
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This is probably the greatest level of cap I've seen in this whole forum lmao. But you brought up India so maybe that applies to India more than the West. Where I currently live, I see tons of Black and White dudes dating or simping over Latinas who are not "high class" at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 12:08 AM
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Eh...there's levels to this. 72 year old Bill Belichick is dating a 24 year old cheerleader as an accomplished NFL coach. Accomplished men do like accomplished women generally but not to the same extent as vice versa. Many "accomplished" men would be open to marrying an illegal immigrant from Venezuela working at Home Depot if she's cute and connects with us.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 12:03 AM
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I disagree. In fact, rich men who aren't "new money" are known for being stingy and very practical with how they spend their money yet they're still considered trophy husbands to many women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 11:59 PM
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Ahh...okay. Good luck finding a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 12:31 AM
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How old are you out of curiosity?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 12:00 AM
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That's because virgins in their late 20's are uncommon.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 10:25 PM
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Where did you go to college, West Virginia?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 10:03 PM
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Are you religious?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 10:02 PM
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Eh...not really. Experienced women usually aren't in the mood to "teach." Inexperienced women would be much more receptive to virgin men frankly.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 10:00 PM
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Radical feminists literally started the TERF movement. That's part of what lead to the split between liberal and radical feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 09:57 PM
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That's because women online are too busy mocking a man's height.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 09:56 PM
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Maybe on Tinder but, in real life, people are much more relationship oriented than you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 08:15 PM
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I'm not automatically doubting you. We're all mostly anonymous on here. It's just that the "glow up" factor gets exaggerated af on here. Tall and attractive people usually don't need "glow ups." They just need to take advantage of opportunities.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 08:13 PM
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Yeah. I'm always suspicious when a poster here claims to be tall, handsome, and rich but claim that they were totally inexperienced and dateless before learning game or having a "glow up." And now they're total casanovas with endless options. It just screams "LARP." He claims he used to be fat but does this dude not realize how many "big boys" with decent faces get around? Confidence does matter though so perhaps that's what was holding him back, assuming he's not lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 05:55 PM
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"Chads" do and don't exist at the same time. Basically, many people know certain guys who by virtue of their looks, lifestyle(clubbing, drinking, hooking up, etc.), or social status will sleep around with a whole bunch of loose women or have a legion of girls who act like groupies around them. Most of us have known some guys like that. I used to share a home with them and have a similar lifestyle. At the same time, though, actual Chads who check off all the boxes that the pill communities conjur…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 05:49 PM
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You don't necessarily get "Chad" treatment but you do have better access to younger and hotter women if you're an average looking guy compared to what you'll have access to back in the States. The only thing is you have to really filter out the gold diggers and sex workers as they tend to target Western men heavily in certain countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 05:37 PM
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Also, it subliminally implies that being Gay is a choice based off of life experiences instead of a genetic or intrinsic attraction which has ironically been a long held religious and Tradcon position. Perhaps women are more genetically inclined to be gay than men but too many Radfems frame it as if heterosexual men have an option to consider men as options despite it going against their biology. And, like you said, many "Bi" women just say they're that to seem more progressive and tolerant of t…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 06:14 AM
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True but it honestly is easier to deal with when you have money.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 06:06 AM
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I mean...the Internet by nature is more widespread as a medium than anything in the pre-Internet age so that's a given.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 09:47 PM
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Sexual assault and divorce go way beyond the Internet and social media. That's been going on for decades.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 09:36 PM
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I think it's projection driven by common tropes about men only wanting sex and women only wanting money. But, pertaining to this sub, I also think it's driven by the voices of inexperienced men who do value sex as much as food and shelter and claim that they're nothing without it. These men are very much a vocal minority irl though.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 09:35 PM
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This. I used to sleep around and drink a lot but, nowadays, I can take breaks from sex and not think anything of it. I also turned down matches on apps who openly only wanted sex. I'm more relationship focused than I used to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 09:23 PM
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No it doesn't. I live in the 4th largest city in the U.S. and observe and interact with tons of people. I also have more than 500 friends on Facebook/IG from different regions and age groups. More than half the divisive stuff I see online is barely present in real life. I'm not saying there isn't some manifestation of it to a degree but it's hardly widespread. I haven't seen a soul talking about "4B" or "your body my choice" in real life. I even asked my teacher friends if they heard about it fr…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 08:58 PM
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I mean...the Red Pill as it pertains online is already basically dead. Many of its biggest content creators have either got deplatformed/banned or lost a lot of steam over time. Online negativity and doomscrolling go far beyond any pill imho.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 06:43 PM
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I mean... many women online have told men below a certain height to kill themselves. Online reactionaries don't at all represent everyday people.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 06:38 PM
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Men get called losers for over 50 reasons so it's not like people walk on eggshells when it comes to slandering men. In fact, it's more PC to slander men for the most trivial reasons compared to women. Besides, it's mainly only said on the Internet anyway. A man irl who targets a woman for her age will be treated as a rude asshole by other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 06:16 PM
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This.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 06:12 PM
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Not sure what "multiculturalism" has to do with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 06:12 PM
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In a nutshell, people not realizing that the Internet highlights the biggest scumbags and trolls as the "new norm" is part of the problem. The average person irl doesn't operate that way and anyone who interacts with people irl would know that. For instance, I keep hearing people say that Gen Z men and women "hate" each other but I still have yet to see that actually manifest in reality. So, ironically, the people who interact with others offline the least will end up becoming even more jades an…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 05:35 PM
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Eh...feminism is a very broad thing. It's technically been around since the early 1900's. Now, if you're talking about modern feminism, it definitely plays a role but I still wouldn't say it's been as impactful as the decline of third spaces and the Internet supplanting social interaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 05:32 PM
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Makes sense. Women in their mid-late 20's tend to be much more receptive of 30 something men for actual relationships(not hookups).
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 05:30 PM
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This.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 05:04 PM
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Maybe on Tinder this is true since it's a sausagefest and has a large proportion of sexy bimbos. But, in real life, you'd be hard pressed to find men unironically being attracted to 70% of women around them. Far more women irl look like Lena Dunham than Sydney Sweeney.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 10:05 PM
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I mean....it's only the 4th largest city in the U.S....
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 10:02 PM
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So, two things I wanna start off with. Foremost, I'm not a liberal(hence I'm not labelled as a blue pill woman.) Liberal feminists try to foolishly compromise with the patriarchy - like how Harris tried to meet Trump halfway on a lot of policies trying to appeal to imaginary moderate voters. I'm a radical feminist and don't think working within the system that was designed to propagate patriarchy would ever work. Radfems are a minority even among feminists. Also, if you're not a "liberal" but st…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 08:45 PM
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Again, where do you guys live where this is an actual phenomenon and not just some reactionary online meme? I'm friends with more than 500 people on Facebook and IG and see zero signs of masses of women giving up on dating, marriage, and sex lol. Every time I scroll through my timeline, I'm seeing women with their boyfriends, husbands, kids, etc. I feel this is mostly an online Reddit bubble phenomenon just like the MGTOW stuff. I live in a large city and still have yet to see masses of women ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 09:59 AM
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Tbh, people of both genders typically desire top tier people but still mainly choose those who are more attainable and relatable. Most average men would ideally rather date a young and hot bimbo with slim curves and a cute face over the plain Janes's they encounter at Walmart and Trader Joe's but that's clearly not a reality for most men. Same applies to women. Both genders ideally want the top 20% as partners but realize that it's out of reach and fall in love with regular people they're more f…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 09:43 AM
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I agree. You have to be very terminally online to think desirable men don't have options. Hell, I look like Donald Glover with glasses and am only 5'9 and I'm eating well in the dating market. You don't even necessarily have to be a GigaChad, male model, or millionaire to get dates. It's more so that they have much more options.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 09:36 AM
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If they're old then that's a different matter altogether. Most old people have enough experience to take a break from relationships and sex if they're divorced or widowed. I'm talking about people 40 and younger.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 01:27 AM
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What happened to you in the workforce?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 07:36 PM
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I don't know. Not to generalize but being a young White woman in society is practically the closest thing to a tutorial mode for life. I say that as someone who dates them too so I'm not a hater lol. I talk to Whites younger than me of both genders and it seems the young White men are more stressed out and have less social advantages compared to their female counterparts overall. Like I know more White men who are late bloomers than White women. And Asian/Indian and Hispanic men are starting to …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 07:17 PM
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No more than White women tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 07:06 PM
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Where do ya'll live where there's a large surplus of women who never get into relationships? I swear....I only hear about this being a thing on the Internet. I feel like it's a niche thing that gets heavy attention online just like the MGTOW stuff. I'm friends with more than 500 people on Facebook, including many women, and legit can't find a single woman who's been intentionally single for a long time.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 07:03 PM
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I think this largely depends on where you live. I live in Texas and see no sign whatsoever that women aren't interested in men. I see young couples and families literally all the time. I don't live in a small town either but I live in Houston. Everywhere I go, I see young women holding hands with their boyfriends and husbands.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 06:57 PM
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Literally everywhere man. Joy Reid is literally on the verge of getting fired because of her meltdown on MSNBC. And a lot of women all over Tik Tok, Reddit, and other social media have been playing the "blame game" with other women. Also, I haven't seen Trumpers crying at all lmao. I'd love to see where you're getting that from. There's been nothing but gloating and declarations of victory throughout. Why would Trumpers cry over Trump's policies when that's the main reason why they voted for him…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 09:43 PM
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This is actually a good point that doesn't get brought up enough. People think men and women marrying later means that the dude automatically got with a reformed thot once she hit 30 and apparently can't date Chads anymore but the more common scenario is that people usually date and live together for 3 or more years before deciding to get married. So, in many cases, the 29 year old woman who got married was dating her husband for many years before they decided to tie the knot. There are certainl…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 06:29 PM
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A lot of women on Reddit tell men who ask dating questions that the only reason they're struggling to date is because women can sniff out their insecurity and misogyny. Literally happens all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 06:25 PM
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Yet women on here say all the time that they can sniff out insecurity and misogyny in men. So, who's really telling the truth?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 06:18 PM
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But men can also risk dating a woman who also cheats, lies, psychologically abuses us, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 06:16 PM
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No, after he made idiotic comments about this “both sides” bs, the White House released a statement. He has never said he condemned neo nazis. Fact check time. Trump War Room on X: "After Charlottesville, President Trump said, "I'm not talking about the neo-Nazis and white nationalists, because they should be condemned totally." https://t.co/fJfS6wOZpR" / X Well, what do you know? We literally have a video back in Trump's 1st term of him openly condemning Nazis and clarifying what he meant by "b…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 06:52 AM
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Did Bill Maher and Matthew Perry specify that they've given up on relationships because they feel too many women are bad people or man hating feminists? If not, then that's not comparable. Of course, simply saying that you're not rushing to jump into a relationship isn't controversial.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 06:43 AM
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“He can’t be racist! He has a black friend! He even said he loves black people!” So, let me get this straight. Trump is very Pro-Zionist, has a Jewish convert daughter who was his advisor in his 1st term, gave his Jewish son-in-law a cabinet position in his 1st term, has a Jewish man as his senior advisor in his current term, condemned actual Neo Nazis, constantly praises the Jews, celebrates Hannukah with some of his family, and declared Jerusalem to be the capital of Israel, yet he's still a "…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 05:22 AM
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It's not shocking tbh. I knew Kamala would lose. She ran a terrible campaign that was rushed due to a lack of a primary. She proposed Bidenomics with a slight twist despite Biden being very polarizing even to the Left. In most interviews and press conferences, she talked like an AI robot who would semi malfunction when given a curveball question or asked to give a non-scripted response. Many of her answers to questions were painfully canned and would often have nothing to do with the question lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 03:03 AM
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lol, what exactly is “widely condemned “. Making bank while making people mad? It's based on what is socially acceptable without being deemed a sexist. Manosphere spaces that are toxic are every bit as profitable as the “sprinkle sprinkle” influencers. It’s seeing how the sausage is made that is killing relationships between the sexes. The actual manosphere is pretty much dying afaik. Many of the influencers got deplatformed a while ago on multiple platforms. There's no money in that space anymo…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 02:32 AM
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He's not lying though. When feminists kept blaming men in general for the Dobbs decision and Pro-Life causes, there was zero distinction between different types of men which lead to many people being misled into thinking it was a gender issue, which impacted Kamala's whole campaign run. So, yes...Liberal men have every right to complain about the media, press, activists, and politicians framing the Dobbs decision or abortion rights issue as a "men trying to oppress women" narrative instead of re…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 02:07 AM
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No disagreement here.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 02:01 AM
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You just contradicted yourself though lol. Why would anonymous people on the Internet stop you from having an individual relationship? Many RP and manosphere types use toxic Tik Tok videos and social media posts to justify "AWALT" or not trusting women for relationships and they get widely condemned for it outside of their echo chambers. Like I said, people sympathize with women swearing off men because of the Internet but men are condemned for doing the exact same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 01:45 AM
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Many women fall into the online hate pit but many others also proactively promote women doing things to have fun with other women. Women have been organizing to try to benefit the health of other women for years, we just have a slightly better network for this. It's funny you say that because the election lowkey sparked a mini civil war among women themselves. Women didn't like that so many women supported Trump and are pro-Life and are now going around online saying "everybody knows women hate …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 01:40 AM
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It's funny how it'd be considered misogynistic if a man went on Reddit and said most modern women are trash except for his wife. Just a funny double standard I've observed. Generalizations are only acceptable for one sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 01:34 AM
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Do these same women feel safe around White women because, if so, I have some news for them......
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 01:16 AM
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I'm sorry but can we please stop calling Trump a Nazi? I'm not even a supporter of the guy but the man had his Jewish son-in law, Jared, convert Ivanka to Orthodox Judaism and have a position in the White House for his 1st term. And he's extremely Zionist and pro-Israel. Call him a "fascist" or whatever but Trump is not a Nazi at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 01:14 AM
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Nick Fuentes is a ragebait Nazi troll and possibly a Fed. In fact, many Right Wingers view him as an agent being used to discredit their whole movement because of his extremist views and talking points that even they don't agree with. Remember, we're talking about a dude who openly hopes that Jews get killed in Israel by the Palestinians despite most Right Wingers being very Pro-Zionist. Nick is to the conservative movement what Westboro Baptist Church is to Christianity.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 01:11 AM
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I think you missed the OP's whole point. For the past 2 years, modern feminists framed the abortion discourse as a "men vs. women" or "feminist vs. angry Incel" issue despite religious women being some of the biggest Pro-Life advocates in the whole country. The OP is simply saying that the "gender" narrative around the Roe discourse was a smokescreen based on a false premise and shouldn't have been framed that way. Even Harris's campaign had ads depicting abortion as an issue that only evil and …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 01:07 AM
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Not Latino women. They actually voted majority for Harris and it's mostly been Latino men who've been scapegoated.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 12:54 AM
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What's funny is that Gen Z men despite having a good support towards Trump voted for Harris at the highest rate of any generation including Millennial men. It's all a smokescreen to scapegoat young men for societal issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 12:53 AM
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Don't women here about how women don't need men for anything anymore and are outpacing men in society? How can that happen in a "misogynistic" society that supposedly wants to "oppress" women?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 11:06 PM
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So, why doesn't that also apply to Tulsi Gabbard who has a major following across parties? She's a WOC like Kamala too so you can't even use that against her.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 11:02 PM
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Same.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 10:58 PM
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This. Same thing applies vice versa too. Tomi Lahren claimed men are trash in 2020 and got backlash for it but still was able to find a husband in spite of it because she's an attractive Blonde.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 02:31 PM
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Eh...chubby women get into relationships all the time. Of course, a super obese person regardless of gender will struggle more.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 01:19 PM
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I'm "average"(like a 6-6.5 facially) and a minority at that and do pretty fine on the apps. I've gotten a good amount of matches and even some dates from girls whom I would consider out of my league on Hinge and Tinder. The conversations and dates didn't lead to long lasting relationships in the end but it was still a good experience getting to talk to and date some of them. Here's the thing though. Dating apps are a major gamble. Because of how most of them are sausagefests full of men of all s…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 09:26 AM
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Treating people like normal working Americans looking for a strong economy under a populist message is not identity politics at all. Literally the opposite in fact. That's one area where you can't accuse Trump and Vance of using identity politics. Now, the Trans thing fits the bill but they didn't use identity politics to appeal to men at all. In their campaign speeches and interviews on podcasts, neither Trump or Vance tried to pander heavily to men. Men just naturally flocked to their message.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 01:10 AM
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That's just a subgroup though, not the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 11:30 PM
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To be fair, this often applies to both parties. But the Right absolutely won people over with the economy focused populist message verses Harris saying "We will not go back" and bringing up Roe. Vs Wade 100 times.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 11:29 PM
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Once again, you missed the whole point. I'm saying that "single" for many women doesn't necessarily imply that they struggle to find partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 10:16 PM
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You missed the whole point entirely. The whole post was about how single women may not necessarily be living a truly single life because many still go on dates or live with their boyfriends. Not a single thing I said implied that I thought she should've filed any differently. You just didn't bother to actually read.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 09:40 PM
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I'm more so talking about how both campaigns treated men. I only mentioned identity politics once and it was in regards to their approaches to men. Trump's campaign treated men like hard working Americans who want a strong economy to thrive and make ends meet. Harris's campaign either treated men like evil misogynists or pandered to them with stereotypes. Both parties use identity politics in different ways overall.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 08:45 PM
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Single is a funny word when it comes to women. I do my sister's taxes. For years, she lived with her boyfriend(who's now her fiance) in an apartment in NYC and, when I was filing her taxes, she kept telling me that her marital status was "Single" despite the fact that she and her boyfriend have been essentially acting like a married couple for years. I take "single" with a grain of salt when it comes to women because it usually still involves getting attention, dates, sex, partners, etc. but wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 08:02 PM
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Perhaps that's true but I will say that Trump's campaign did an amazing job simply treating men as hard working Americans who want the best for their country instead of caricatures. Meanwhile, Harris's campaign either treated men like supervillains or pandered to them with stereotypes like hunting, muscles, and video games. I'm not even a Trump supporter but him and Vance going on the podcast circuit and showing themselves to be vulnerable men who love their families and the country was far more…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 07:51 PM
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What's interesting is that Trump and Vance didn't even necessarily try to portray themselves as overly masculine men who love hunting, sports, working out, military, etc. They just promoted a pro-American populist message and expressed interest in helping men prosper in a good economy so they can thrive and support their families. Even when they both got interviewed in the podcast circuit, they were quite vulnerable(yes, even Trump surprisingly) and didn't try to play up their masculinity or app…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 07:41 PM
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Yep. Even Leftists who voted for Jill Stein were sometimes deemed "right wingers." Make it make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 07:25 PM
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It's not just rural areas but working class parts of urban areas too.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 07:22 PM
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I mean....not really. Have you lived in a working class or Blue collar area before? I've seen ogres and dudes ugly as sin with girlfriends, wives, baby mamas, and children. Lower class people across the board have lower standards which ironically makes it easy for them to find partners. It's even a running gag online that retail and restaurant workers often fuck around with each other and have "work husbands" and "work wives."
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 08:43 AM
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It's all relative. Religious people, poor or rich, tend to strongly believe in marriage. I have cousins from the South who had a wife and kids while they were working in retail or serving in the military. It's mainly because of religion. You'll find many rural Amish in Pennslvania and Ohio getting married and having kids young despite not being rich or educated too. Also, if you exclude marriage, then many poor or working class people have sex and have kids. I grew up in a working class neighbor…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 12:29 AM
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Tell that to all the broke and uneducated men sleeping around and making babies.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 12:04 AM
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Eh...what? Eastern Europe is heavily populated with Russia literally having the biggest population of any European country. And the Balkans and Baltic regions are very densely populated. Also, "feminist" is a vague term that means nothing. The GOP has tons of female politicians ranging from Senators, Governors, Mayors, Presidential candidates, Councilwomen, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 09:33 AM
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It's plausible but, if true, then they owe conservatives and religious leaders an apology for suggesting that sexual orientation is a choice while proclaiming the exact same thing themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 06:28 AM
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This is a terrible characterization ngl. The majority of middle class or working class people are living paycheck to paycheck. Chain restaurants are closing down left and right. Retail stores are closing down left and right. Malls are closing down left and right. Bars are closing down left and right. This idea that people today are uniquely materialistic or overly indulgent and that's what is stopping people from living like the Brady Bunch is hilariously out of touch with reality lol. I make go…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 05:25 AM
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It's really not worth living a shitty quality of life just for reproduction. That's how poverty spreads often in low income areas. People just have babies for the sake of it and both them and the kids suffer from the lack of money and lower quality of life. My grandparents on my mom's side produced 9 kids in rural South Carolina but the experience was still limiting and low quality to the point where my late grandfather urged my mom and some of his other kids to move to NYC to get a career and l…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 05:12 AM
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Maybe in rural areas. In the majority of the county, people outside your older relatives tend to not care. Laura Ingraham and Ann Coulter have never produced biological children in their lives but they still remain big conservative pundits.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 05:09 AM
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This. All developed countries have been dealing with rising childlessness and declining birth rates for decades now.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 05:07 AM
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My goodness, it's a debate forum. Nobody's wasting anyone's time or forcing anyone to answer questions they don't want to ask. Plenty of women here have asked provocative or dumb questions about men too. If this sub turned vanilla and PC overnight with only milquetoast questions and answers allowed, it would become inactive in less than 2 weeks.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 05:05 AM
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I'm talking about voters specifically.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 05:02 AM
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What second option? Who the fuck wants to not work and make money in this economy? Lol. I can see it as a short phase when you're a college kid but having no money and having to depend on others to survive sounds miserable af. There's not enough video games, porn, TV, or Internet in the world that would make me feel good about being a NEET as an adult.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 04:25 AM
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Has it occurred to you that Europe also isn't monolithic? Eastern Europe exists and is quite traditional and conservative. Gay marriage is still banned in Italy to this day. Rural parts of Western Europe are damn near as conservative as rural parts of the U.S. And Right Wing nationalist parties are gaining popularity all across the continent. Even Sweden is discussing plans for mass deportations, including a proposal to pay immigrants to leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 11:48 PM
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The manosphere didn't really do jack overall. Trump basically won over every demographic imaginable compared to 2020 including women and he won the popular vote. The election was far more about the economy, inflation, and immigration than some niche online gender tirades. Close to 50% of women voted for Trump and Trump thanked women for voting for him. Not sure how that coincides with your "women is bad is mainstream" stuff, unless you're implying that women hate women too.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 11:40 PM
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Nobody here advocates for femicide lol. What the hell are you talking about here?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 11:35 PM
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FYI: Close to 50% of women in the U.S. voted for Trump.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 09:19 PM
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It's funny how the Left flip flops back and forth over whether sexual orientation is intrinsic or is a choice. The Left used to crucify people like Ben Shapiro and Ben Carson who claimed that being gay was a choice(which I disagree with btw). But now you see Liberals saying "Oh yeah. More women are just going to choose to be Lesbian/Bi" which is literally not much different than what Ben Carson said here. Ben Carson and Homosexuality: How Science Proves Him Wrong | TIME
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 09:16 PM
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You mean NEETs? That's just some suburban kid stuff. No offense. They are already used to mom and dad taking care of everything for them. Many other young men don't have that luxury. A lot of young men, otherwise, HAVE to work to survive and put food on the table.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 09:13 PM
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Puerto Rico just elected a pro-Trump Governor.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 09:10 PM
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Well, in America, 49% of men aged 18-29 voted for Trump verses 37% of women in the same age group. That's a measly 12% difference. And female turnout for this election was lower than for Biden. Like I said, the gap isn't as strong as you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 09:05 PM
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It's not "women" though. It's just a subgroup of Leftist women who were probably already struggling to find a husband to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 09:03 PM
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1996 is actually the last year of Millennials.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 07:21 PM
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I can totally relate on the other side.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 07:20 PM
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I'm a Centrist so I'm cool with a moderate Liberal or moderate Conservative woman. Now, if that same woman is a full blown Radfem Liberal or a full blown MAGA worshipper, I'm out.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 07:18 PM
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4B is only going to accelerate conservativism because only Liberal women believe in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 07:16 PM
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There's not as much of a political gap between men and women as you think. Exit polls showed that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 07:15 PM
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Reddit was sooooo off the mark with their election predictions, it is insane. Like I've seen many posts unironically claim that Harris can easily flip Florida and Texas. The delusion was real. 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 01:21 AM
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Also, celebrities who screech about Trump while secretly voting for him. Azalea Banks exposed this.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 01:09 AM
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Eh...many Trump supporters hate Trump as a person. It's more so that Kamala wasn't a good pick and her campaign was pretty garbage especially in the fall(her run in August was pretty fine). Had the DNC ran a good candidate with a stronger following, Trump might've been defeated. Also, Europe has no room whatsoever to lecture Americans about electing Right Wing populists when even liberal Sweden is making promises of mass deportations. From ‘open hearts’ to closed borders: behind Sweden’s negativ…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 12:05 AM
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Ngl....I'm loving how the "girl power" feminists are all having meltdowns and suddenly saying "Everyone knows women hate other women" when they've been saying the exact opposite before the election. I remember when even women on here used to boast about how much solidarity women had with each other in contrast to me. Now, I see women talking about how men supposedly have more solidarity with each other than women. The flip flopping has been insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 11:59 PM
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Not really. Some liberal White women on MSNBC and other news networks have been lumping Black men with Latino men in terms of "going MAGA" as a deflection.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 11:57 PM
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Exactly. Also, the Hispanic male vote is WAAAY less common than the White female vote. White women are demographically a MUCH larger voting base.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 11:52 PM
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Cause it at least has to have basis in reality. Acting as if the election had a true gender gap is very dishonest.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 05:21 AM
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Yep.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 05:19 AM
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Millennial men voted majority Trump. But conservative Millennials keep a low profile and usually aren't struggling with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 11:20 PM
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Underrated post. I thought about deleting the app solely for that reason. Thankfully, I was able to match with some fit ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 07:04 PM
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Millennial men voted majority Trump. Only the Leftist ones on Reddit who don't go outside acted confused. But it's true that Gen Z guys were pretty split between Trump and Harris which disappointed many Liberals.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 07:04 PM
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Puerto Ricans from Florida lean pretty conservative. The ones in the Northeast are usually Democrat but had a big swing to the Right this election cycle.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 06:54 PM
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Yep. They showed their true colors lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 06:52 PM
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It also increased with women though. It's because of the Internet, and lack of third spaces. But, all in all, most men today are NOT virgins by the age of 20 and there's zero data that shows otherwise. That's a common myth that Incels online love to push and now Blue Pillers are stealing Incel talking points to push the same narrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 11:04 AM
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I feel like if that was true you wouldn't have seen such a turn out of male voters for Trump. My guy....Trump won the popular vote. 53% of White women voted for Trump. He was just more appealing across the board than Harris. Sex or lack of legit isn't even a top 10 reason why men voted for Trump. Kamala's campaign was so trash that many of her own supporters stayed home. 🤣 Because if men aren't getting laid. And also not getting dates. Because it's practically a crime now to ask out women.They p…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 08:59 AM
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Like I said men already aren't getting laid in numbers we have never seen before. False. That's just something Incels online say to cope with their own failures. And now you guys are stealing Incel talking points that ya'll used to claim were entirely false and out of touch with reality to cope. 🤣🤣 Modern studies still show that it's normal for young men to have sex and lose their virginity before the age of 18. It's just that those who haven't have more of a voice due to social media just like …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 08:33 AM
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But the catch is that it's entirely an echo chamber of Liberal women who are pushing for this. Liberals already have a demographic disadvantage against Conservatives. 4B will accelerate it to the max to the degree that only conservative women will have kids and raise families. So, either way, modern feminists don't win.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 07:25 AM
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The flip side to this though is that the women partaking in 4B are entirely Liberal which means that you're literally accelerating the process of growing conservatism in the country by encouraging all Liberal women to not have sex and have kids. So, either way, ya'll screw yourself over pun intended.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 07:23 AM
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If it happens, it'll be a fringe movement just like with anarchists. It'll never become a popular movement. It's not even popular in South Korea. People just falsely assume that South Korea's birth rate is due to 4B but that's not true at all. Italy and Japan have the exact same issues with low birth rates and it's due to no fringe movement like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 05:27 AM
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We know Trump is a clown. But he's a clown with an actual loyal voter base who has a message that resonates with the masses. Biden was a geriatric neoliberal whose campaign got saved by COVID and the protests. That's why, as soon as COVID started clearing and police brutality ceased to become a hot topic, Biden began to lose supporters. I'm strictly talking from a political strategy perspective, not in terms of who I like because I'm not fond of most politicians on either side.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 05:23 AM
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Yep. They claim women who support Trump or the GOP are "brainwashed by their husbands", "pick mes", have "internalized misogyny", etc. Zero accountability. And the fact that the Harris campaign unironically tried to center their political ads around this delusional notion, thinking it would appeal to actual married women was one of many reasons why her campaign was dogshit. If anything, this is a projection from single women as to what marriage dynamics are typically like.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 05:18 AM
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Because the women here are projecting or they're so terminally online that they think the average woman irl thinks like them. White women are "minorities" when it's convenient so they can just ship all blame to White men or men in general for "muh Trump" or "muh Right Wingers." In fact, Katy Tur, a liberal White woman who works for MSNBC had the gall to try to claim that Trump made a "huge shift" in BM support which is false(it only slightly increased from 2020). The Black commentators like Symo…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 04:47 AM
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That too but the Dems ran a terrible campaign all around even dating back to thinking Biden was the best choice for 2020. Kamala's campaign held the Dems waaaaay back. It's time for them to regroup.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 04:39 AM
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Yes, especially White women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 04:22 AM
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Young women have been saying this shit for as long as I could remember. They'll say that they never want kids, don't want to get married, blah blah etc.. And then it typically happens anyway. People are just marrying or getting into LTR's later in life than usual. But in terms of society as a whole legit withdrawing from sex, relationships, and marriage altogether, that's nothing but a femcel fantasy just like how a lot of MGTOW stuff is an incel fantasy. Nobody's withdrawing from sex and love i…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 04:15 AM
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Doubt it. The economy was cited as the number 1 reason for Trump's support across the board.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 04:10 AM
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Women voted for Trump at 44%. You should specify Liberal women only. And, even then, many moderately Liberal women are living normal lives and not planning on becoming femcels overnight because of Trump.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 04:06 AM
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Married men with children get called "Incels" just for supporting Jordan Peterson....
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 04:05 AM
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South Korea has a strong workaholic culture with a very high COL. That plays a much bigger role in their birth rates than "4B." Japan and Italy don't have "4B" but are going through similar issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 04:02 AM
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You must not know many college educated teachers date and marry Blue collar guys. I see that literally all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 03:51 AM
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"All" is a huge stretch. Again, pay attention to the data. College educated White women still voted for Trump at a 41% rate. And White Zoomers and Young Millennials as a whole are 50/50. Also, young people aren't as politically inclined as they act online. The men who struggle the most with women are usually unattractive, socially awkward, autistic, or broke. When you're that unappealing, you can be a full blown Communist with a wardrobe of Che Guevera shirts and able to quote Karl Marx and you …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 01:58 AM
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That's interesting because I've seen tons of Canadians online completely rip their healthcare system apart and claim that Europe had a better healthcare system I guess the grass is always greener.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 01:27 AM
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Wait a second. If all of this is true, why were you just saying that you're glad you're not American because of Trump while acknowledging that your own country is going through a similar thing? I'm a bit confused.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 11:05 PM
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Sounds like femcel rhetoric ngl.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 10:06 PM
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Why are you only focusing on men when there was barely much of a gender divide in this election? Hell, the only people who had what could be considered a gender divide was the Hispanic community with the men voting Trump and the women voting Harris.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 10:00 PM
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I love how women on PPD ignore the elephant in the room about White women voting for Trump over Harris and how that basically is what won Trump the election since they're a large voting bloc.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 09:55 PM
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Canadian eh? Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't Justin Trudeau hate at pretty much an all time high in Canada right now? If so, I wouldn't be so haughty right now. Hell, many Liberals in Canada are complaining about him on top of inflation, housing costs, and mass immigration.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 09:51 PM
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Hold up. You're not even American? Yeah...this discussion is over. Harris just ran a bad campaign.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 09:18 PM
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I agree. That's why I dislike that out of touch minorities are usually positioned in the media as "spokespersons" when they're anything but that. People are much more moderate and economy focused than meets the eye. One of my ex girlfriends who's a White liberal texted me about how it was terrible that I didn't vote in this election and how Trump is going to put Black people back in chains and deport all Latinos and blah blah. I let her get it off of her chest but she couldn't understand why I w…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 09:08 PM
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But Trump literally just thanked women for voting for him in his speech, especially since he made more gains with female voters than Harris. All this blaming American men BS shows how out of touch with reality you are. If White women didn't vote majority Trump, Harris might've won. You're making this into a gender thing when the reality is that Harris was just a dogshit candidate with a dogshit campaign.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 07:33 PM
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The states mostly voted for abortion rights though. And Trump kept saying "leave it to the states."
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 07:29 PM
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This. Anyone who thinks gender relations played a major role in Trump's victory is way too terminally online. White women voted majority Trump and they basically determined the outcome since they're the 2nd largest voting bloc in the country and Kamala probably would've won if they voted for her more than Trump. It was clear that Trump's populist message of wanting to fight inflation, illegal immigration, and saving the economy resonated with the masses more than Harris's confusing message which…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 07:27 PM
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Millennial men voted majority Trump.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 07:19 PM
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Bro....it was so forced that I knew it would turn out to be smoke and mirrors. 💀 You can tell they were overcompensating with all that unnecessary praise with them saying that Kamala's debate against Trump was one of the best they've seen. 💀 Not to mention, Kamala didn't have a primary due to the last minute switcharoo and her agenda and plan beyond not being Biden/Trump and being pro-Choice was ambigious as hell with her sounding like Bernie one minute and sounding like a Neocon the next minute…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 09:51 PM
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To be fair, most Haitian immigrants in the U.S. are hard working people who value education a lot. The country itself is fucked up for sure but the immigrants from Haiti are usually a good asset. Hell, they're statistically more successful and educated than Central American immigrants.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 09:41 PM
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I agree. At least Gavin is, at the very least, a MUCH better orator than Kamala and he's a married White dude with an age advantage so that might help him cross over too. But, like you said, he's basically not much different from Biden/Kamala politically speaking.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 09:39 PM
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Very good post. I, sometimes, lurk and post in political subs like r/AskALiberal and r/AskConservatives and the smug elitism from the former sub can be very insufferable at times. I've seen many of them candidly malign non-college educated workers, rural people, Blue collar men, stay at home moms, Christians, dateless men, etc. This runs rampant in many other parts of Reddit too. And they swore that American women would join hands together like the Care Bears and save the world only for White wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 09:11 PM
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Exactly. Kamala made the least amount of gains among female voters since John Kerry in 2004. There is even a thread on this. Shit is embarrassing. I knew the Harris hype was smoke and mirrors from the get go due to people getting shook after Biden's bad debate performance. I kept saying, too, that studies have shown not much of a gender gap between pro-Life support and I've had female posters here argue with me about that even after I posted the data. Abortion simply isn't a top 3 issue that wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 08:20 PM
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If by people you mean 44% of women as well, then sure. Of course, you know damn well people aren't voting for Trump because of rape accusations, but let's go ahead and assume that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 01:04 PM
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Exactly man. I'm dying at these liberal feminists blaming men for Trump when Trump won a shit ton of female votes despite Harris supporters swearing on their grandmother that she'd win the female vote by 90%. In reality, she lost more female votes than Hillary in the midst of the Benghazi scandal. Yikes.... That's why the female posters in this thread aren't making much sense either. Do you think the millions of women who voted for Trump are going to cosign this "sex strike?" Reddit is not real …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 10:16 AM
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Women helped got Trump elected. Why do you think the Reddit echo chamber reflects women irl? 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 10:12 AM
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South Korea literally has the highest female suicide rate of any developed country on Earth.....
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 10:10 AM
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It's not even a gender thing. White women supported Kamala less than Hillary. Kamala and her supporters just got too egotistical thinking that she had this in the bag and the Left ignored the anti-Zionist faction on their voter base to their own detriment. I'm sick of people making this into a gender thing when many female voters didn't even fuck with Kamala like that. 💀💀
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 10:01 AM
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I love how you're not bringing up the elephant in the room about how White women in this election supported Kamala less than Hillary even in spite of this. Maybe you should "boycott" them too.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 09:58 AM
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Some stats actually showed that many dudes on here are actually in their 20's or even late teens. It blew my mind as first too especially since I feel like I've interacted with way more guys in their 30's but it could be due to either young men here mainly lurking or a number of guys LARPing about their lives and ages. I'm 30 and felt like I was one of the "younger" men on here but the stats have shown me otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 12:48 AM
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Exactly. People lowkey expose themselves when they think the average Joe or plain Jane irl is an undercover Incel or undercover Radfem. People must not "touch grass" as often as they think if they believe this.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 12:18 AM
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To play Devil's advocate, I've seen Red Pillers and MGTOW types say the exact same thing you're saying but with the genders reversed for why they believe in "AWALT." They'll come across variations of online or mainstream feminists bashing men, women frauding paternity, women making false rape accusations, divorced men struggling, etc. constantly and use that as justification for believing what they believe about women. And it becomes a perpetual cycle where the fringe radical voices for men and …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 12:15 AM
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It's either that or there's a lot of college kids and tech workers who are stuck in their dorms or barely have a social life outside of their tech jobs. Some of the takes here are just out of touch with reality and overly reliant on cherrypicked data and social media posts, it's insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 12:01 AM
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I keep saying on here that this is a reactionary sub full of ragebait and shitposts masquerading as a debate forum.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 11:45 PM
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Where do you live? Most actual and unironic Marxists, Socialists, and Far Left dudes irl are total losers and not good with the ladies at all. Sure, that's a generalization and I'm sure some are desirable but it's not the norm at all. They're like the Leftist version of the Alt Right: a bunch of broke men clinging onto fringe ideologies to cope with their living situations. Saying Liberal men are less desirable than them to women is hilariously out of touch with reality lol. Even in places like …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 05:52 PM
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Not sure if you're trolling because it's literally the other way around. Moderately liberal men are more likely to be high earners and college grads who still have a strongly capitalistic mindset while being non-religious, pro-Choice, and pro-Weed. A lot of actual Leftist and Socialist men tend to be poorly dressed neckbeards who are broke, worship Bernie, quote Marx and Lenin, dislike Democrats almost as much as the Right, and spend more time complaining about capitalism and America than becomi…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 04:24 AM
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Yep. I personally think tradwives are overrated to begin with. I'd rather get with a teacher or a nurse than a housewife.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 10:19 PM
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Just get a passport dude....
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 10:18 PM
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If it's that bad for you, just go to Sosua and sleep with some big booty Latinas for experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 10:15 PM
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This tbh. There's a lot of mundane and normal looking couples out there who have little incentive to complain or flaunt themselves online.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 10:14 PM
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I read this comment in Heath Ledger's Joker voice.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 10:10 PM
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This. Hell, even the apps aren't as hard as people make them out to be. I get matches and I'm far from the Chad archetype and I have my real height(5'9) listed too.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 10:08 PM
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This. I'm tired of people portraying average men as useless bums while acting like the average woman is a boss babe making 6 figures with a PHD.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 07:40 PM
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So....I take it you only read the first sentence and nothing else, huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 01:19 PM
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Blame COL and inflation. That's the main reason less people are rushing to have kids nowadays. Many average people are 2 paychecks away from sleeping in a homeless shelter even if they have a "good job" and wages aren't keeping up with the rising costs. Kids aren't just these cute assets or decorations that you can check off on a grocery list. They're living beings who require tons of time, sacrifice, and money over a long duration of time from the cradle to the grave. Some of the most miserable…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 05:34 AM
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Sadly, a lot of Western men just give up and get out of shape over time.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 05:17 AM
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This is based on a 2023 Ohio election centered around abortion rights. Mike Hixenbaugh on X: "Exit polling on Ohio issue 1 is showing broad support for abortion rights across demographics. More from (They removed the OG link off NBC). Blacks and Hispanics supported abortion rights the most and Black men were the biggest voters for abortion rights. Meanwhile, White women supported it at a whopping 7% more than White men(57% more than 50%). Again, I'm not pulling this out of my ass. White women ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 03:01 AM
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Yep. That's basically my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 02:55 AM
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I mean...it's not really the politics. Notice how you had to specify "hot enough." Nick Fuentes is about as Far Right as they come and he's literally an actual Incel who never dated or fucked a woman a day in his life. Richard Spencer also claimed many of his Alt Right followers were Incels. I'm guessing you're not talking about Far Right guys when you say "alphas" and are talking about this caricature of a tall lumberjack looking guy who own rifles and make good money from a Blue collar job. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 02:51 AM
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Harris is the Brown Rachel Dolezal.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 02:43 AM
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So, explain the fact that White women collectively vote for the GOP and Pro-Life policies more than any group of POC men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 02:41 AM
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This. Actual apolitical or moderate men who have charm, looks, success, social skills, etc. tend to do the best with women. Women aren't wetting their panties over neckbeard looking Bernie bros who wear Che Guevara T Shirts and complain about capitalism 24/7.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 02:38 AM
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Keep in mind that Reddit will always portray American life as far more exciting and dangerous than it actually is. I live in Houston, Texas and it's literally frowned upon by most people to make politics your personality and you'll be seen as a weirdo for constantly bringing it up. People would rather break the ice over sports, weather, current events, work, food, family, vacations, etc. than randomly have political debates. There are super political people but they're a vocal minority. Reddit d…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 02:35 AM
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Eh...I'm pretty sure tall and muscular frat bros are still dating and sleeping with the most attractive girls in college pound for pound and quite a few of them are moderates or covert conservatives.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 02:30 AM
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Tbh, she's right. Honestly, being at the right social settings, having a "mouthpiece", and being willing to drink and experiment with drugs played just as much of a role in getting laid as being good looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 03:24 AM
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Being able to get sex from many women only seems like it’d feel satisfying short term, especially if you’re coming from a place of lack and feeling worthless / envious. Like to prove to yourself that “I can do something that those loser men can’t!” Eh...it's not that deep. Sex just feels great, especially if you're a man. Also, it's considered a huge part of "coming of age." I'd say it's less about being a "fuck boy" and more that being an adult male virgin past a certain age is seen as a much b…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 03:22 AM
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Let's be honest here. No sexually active man gets offended by the "incel" label. That label mostly cuts deep with lonely men or virgin men who attract zero women. That's why someone like Drake or Trump can look at posts calling them "incels" and laugh it off but the lonely teenage boy on Reddit who gets called one will be on suicide watch. That's why I find the whole "Incel doesn't mean virgin" thing to be pretty much useless since it never even cuts deep on non-virgin or taken/married men who g…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 03:10 AM
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That really depends on the women they attract though. I don't think sleeping with a bunch of buck toothed, obese women from a trailer park will help any man seem attractive or make him more appealing to attractive women. If anything, it'll make him seem more desperate than an Incel unless he's from that community. It's actually funny how both Blue and Red Pillers on here believe that only attractive men get laid or sleep around. It's one of the few things both pills seem to agree on that persona…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 02:56 AM
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Speaking as a dude who made the Dean's list at Rutgers and works as an accountant, it's pretty complicated. On a societal or holistic level, these accomplishments very much matter when it comes to earning respect in middle-upper class communities and professional job settings. But, on a romantic level, it doesn't mean much unless you still check off boxes for attraction, social skills, and personality. I can say for certain that my success with women had almost nothing to do with my intelligence…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 02:46 AM
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To be honest, a lot of partisan discourse is essentially this. That's why I ID as "no pill" on here and "Centrist" on political subs. Many people think that their in-group is more virtuous than the other, not realizing that there's similar traits that can be found throughout.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 06:25 PM
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I thought ya'll claimed Red Pill ideas were niche and weren't reflective of "normal" men irl.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 05:05 AM
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America has one of the highest divorce rates in the world and there's still many estranged marriages. Keep in mind that I'm talking about the middle class here not the upper class. Middle class families are just a paycheck or 2 away from being working class.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 04:35 AM
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Makes sense. I knew many divorced and estranged households in middle class areas but they'd often still avoid having kids out of wedlock from the get-go.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 03:28 AM
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Having a hot girlfriend/wife and being a high n-count men are 2 different things my dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 09:12 PM
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To people under the age of 22 maybe. On a general level, there's much more factors that determine social status for men. The very fact that people can't even guess your sex life irl makes it even more preposterous to suggest this. Men are known to cap about their sex lives which causes women to devalue how much sexual experience men claim to have. Also, some of the most sexual men are lower income guys from the streets and trailer parks. You think those men are respected in higher class circles …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 09:10 PM
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I can agree with this tbh. I think men more so desire low n-count women for marriage than actual virgins. I think actual virgin women past a certain age will not be looked at that fondly. Also, "femcels" are often seen as fakers or non-existent by both gatekeeping male Incels and feminists who think you have to be male to qualify as an Incel so I don't think it's gaining popularity at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 12:09 AM
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How exactly are you defining "urban" here cause I can assure you that NYC has no shortage of single moms? I also live in Houston and it's not unusual here either.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 11:46 PM
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True but it's a bigger social and romantic barrier for men I believe. A 22+ female virgin at least is never associated with mass shooters and misogynists unlike virgin men. Toxic men almost never call women "femcels" as an insult but you'll hear them say "slut" "whore", and "skank" often.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 11:43 PM
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Oh...here we go with the myth that Black women don't get relationships and sex again. Maybe we can argue how much access to quality men BW have but we're not going to lie and make it seem like Black women don't have dating and sex options. I see BW who are overweight and "non-pretty" with kids or a man by their side all the time. Also, BW get more swipes than White men on dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 07:26 PM
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I agree but I also see his point. Sometimes, people pay the price for "generational curses" such as having parents who are drug addicts or poor.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 07:21 PM
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You clearly never lived in an immigrant community before.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 07:19 PM
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It's true and not true. The key is to be balanced. Don't be an insufferable douchebag who mistreats people but also don't be a fragile pushover who's kind to a fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 07:17 PM
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Already have, although she was only an inch or two taller.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 07:04 PM
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All women are young at one point and there's many older men into older women and a niche of young men who go for "cougars."
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 07:04 PM
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Not really. Tons of tall men are unremarkable and get little to no attention from women. It sounds like you're engaging in the apex fallacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 07:03 PM
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MRA is literally a meme and already shitted on by many people who aren't chronically online.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 06:31 PM
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Atm, Black men are being accused of misogyny if we don't support Kamala.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 09:20 PM
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Arguably the worst reboot ever and I thought Be Cool was trash.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 09:17 PM
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Eh...In America, plenty of them still get men for LTR's.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 02:31 AM
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Yup. Just look at Lipstick Alley. That place is femcel central and one of the most bitter places on the Internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 01:48 AM
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That's a fair point. In a previous city I lived in, I remember living next door to a very nice man from some Latin country(forgot which one) who was very friendly to everyone in town and ran a business. But he'd be beating the living crap out of his wife every now and then when they'd have an argument and I even secretly called the cops on them once. His wife was semi-disabled and couldn't even work a job anymore and he took care of all her medical needs and paid the bills. So, I can see how wel…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 06:50 PM
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Have you considered moving to Utah?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 04:28 PM
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To be fair, those types of women usually intentionally make themselves unavailable to most men due to their religious values. It's very much a voluntary thing with them and, while they may be considered a catch, they're going to be much more closed off to the average men than your average woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 04:27 PM
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I think it's mostly young inexperienced guys on here who say this the most. Don't get it twisted. I think the average marriage minded man is better off with a virgin than a "304" but most adult women who are virgins are generally going to be pretty non-sexual, non-risky with sex positions, demure, and desiring sex only after marriage or when she's had enough time to feel comfortable in the relationship. I'm generalizing here but that's usually what applies to non-virgin women past their early 20…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 03:53 PM
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Many Hispanic immigrant women do it in the U.S.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 03:48 AM
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It's kinda true especially with many of the young hot ones who look like they have zero issues attracting guys irl but I ironically ended up chatting with a bunch of women on there in spite of that. I even talked to this girl on Hinge last year who would tell me how hot I was and ask me how I was doing every morning on the app and we'd have deep conservations about everything. Sadly, she deleted her account out of the blue and I forgot to save her number on my phone. I also had a bunch of Filipi…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 12:17 AM
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I think she was trolling tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 06:43 PM
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On the apps, this is true. Outside the apps, people usually pair up the most with those they grew up with or have known for a while.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 06:42 PM
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She's trolling people.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 06:29 PM
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That's because SJW's and intersectional feminists are too afraid to confront men who seem too big and scary for them to confront so they take their anger out on short men more abrasively feeling that it's safer to punch down on them. It's basically the same reason why it's more socially acceptable to mock and negatively stereotype Indians more than Muslims/Middle Easterners.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 06:28 PM
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To be fair, many American men are overweight and obese too.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 06:22 PM
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"Babe. I could've chosen all the beautiful and sexy women out there but I'm glad I chose you instead..."
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 06:16 PM
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Between those 2 choices, I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 02:38 AM
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I see your point but I still think men are a bit more open-minded on average. I remember a woman from LA going on video calling herself ugly and claiming that she got zero attention from men irl and many men in the comments still said that she was pretty and being too hard of herself.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 12:55 AM
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There's religious communities in the PNW? Wow. You learn something new every day.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 08:59 PM
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My 600 Pound Life would like to have a word with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 08:16 PM
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Where do you live?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 08:11 PM
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In the West? Yes you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 08:10 PM
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Japanese men fit that to a T and their country is having a huge demographic crisis.....
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 05:34 PM
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This.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 03:24 AM
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That's unironically a Tradcon position in 2024 lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 03:23 AM
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Please. That only applies to rural areas these days. Cities and suburbs in "red" states are basically the same as other regions.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 03:22 AM
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Good for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 10:09 PM
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Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 07:19 PM
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Tracks with my observations too. I personally lost it at 13 which is on the earlier side.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 10:18 PM
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I wasn't talking about you. I was talking about the ideology.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 12:48 AM
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Modern liberal feminism encourages women to maintain a victim mentality.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 11:43 PM
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Are you a man or woman? A man. I know its going to sound mega racist but a lot of the white women on this sub operate in really bad faith or just straight up dishonest. Its kinda lame how many are acting incredulous about the fact that a lot of men lean right, especially if they're masculine presenting and this dischotomy has become even more apparent in recent election cycles where divergence along ideological lines is becoming more pronounced among the genders. I know but, as to not break the …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 05:45 PM
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How do you define it personally?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 03:25 PM
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Anecdotal but I rarely run into Blue collar men and tradesmen who are overly Liberal. I'm not even just talking White dudes here. Many of the Blue collar Black and Hispanic men I've known could give Tucker Carlson are run for his money with their constant bashing of the Left. This is all anecdotal though. I'm sure there's many who are Liberal too. I just haven't met too many. It's true that politics itself doesn't determine how "masculine" one is though.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 03:11 PM
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I think modern women do like liberal men but only a specific type of liberal man, namely a Neoliberal/moderate liberal man with good looks and success like a real life Gavin Newsom or Barack Obama. Basically, the liberal man can't be one who makes liberalism his whole identity or is a full blown Tankie, Communist, male feminist, or Antifa member/supporter. He also can't be a broke bum who whines and complains about capitalism and "the system" while still living with his parents and being unable …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 03:05 PM
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Honestly, in the South, many women, especially White and Hispanic, are very much open to politically conservative men too and quite often even outright prefer them to liberal men. I've met them before as someone who gets mistaken for a "Black conservative" quite often fsr. But it's true that, for many modern/feminist women, they want a Liberal man with a "conservative"(rugged, strong, tall, Blue collar) aesthetic and provider mindset or a traditional minded man who's pro-Choice and pro-LGBTQ. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 02:45 PM
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Yes there are but "plenty" is a stretch. I don't think I ever met an actual incel irl growing up as a Millennial. I see them more online. Keep in mind that Millennials are currently between 28 and 43 years old.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 02:19 PM
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In 2024? Not really. I feel that's more of a youth thing, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 04:35 AM
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It's tricky because I've also had an amazing success rate with sex and dates. I get plenty of matches on OLD/Tinder too. But I'm also Black, 5'9, and a "square" accountant who's about a 7 at best facially. I don't believe for a second that you need to be a "Chad" or the "top 20%" to have a successful dating/sexual life but I do think that those types of men can still be deemed the most desirable while having the most options. People just lack nuance and think that every man is either a Chad or a…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 11:21 PM
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I mean...she called herself a loser for being ugly so this comment was sorta pointless. It wasn't like she was truly selling herself lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 05:41 PM
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Average man on Reddit =/= Average man irl.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 05:37 PM
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Research proves that incels are far less shallow than the average man, I'd love to see this research because aren't they some of the main guys who complain endlessly about "landwhales", "post wall women", and "SMV?"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 03:29 PM
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This.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 05:16 AM
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Very nuanced take.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 03:31 AM
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I mean....this is very subjective. Some of the most depressed people I know are dads who are having issues with their relationships, kids' mothers, kids themselves, or marriages. I talk to them on the phone and they literally bawl on the other line talking about how miserable they are while telling me to be careful. I have a cousin whose daughter's mom moved to a different part of the country with their daughter without telling him and he hasn't seen her in 5 years. And he's attempted suicide ov…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 02:19 AM
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Societal and familial pressure primarily. There's a major notion that a man is not fully mature or "adultified" until he gets married and have kids. Of course, the pressure in the West doesn't compare to other parts of the world but it's still there. Because of my level of success and me being alright looking, I run into people constantly who are shocked that I'm not married or have kids yet. When I tell them I'm picky when it comes to that, they keep telling me that there's a bunch of women who…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 02:13 AM
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There's literally MLM's based around the exact thing you're promoting that have been shut down by the feds and gotten people arrested lol. Men actually "checking out" of society is cope.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 10:43 PM
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Does he blame COVID?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 10:47 PM
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Damn. Ya'll literally look like a stereotypical sitcom couple lol. Take that however you want but you guys look happy together so congrats.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 10:45 PM
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Damn. That's crazy. Are you a shy person?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 10:33 PM
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Because, post university, it becomes harder to meet an abundance of single/childless women and the FOMO can make certain men feel empty inside especially when they see their peers in LTR's. But it really depends on the guy though. Some men, especially if they're religious or have high standards, aren't impacted by it. But the ones who are usually feel like a significant milestone in their life is missing. Young love isn't everything but it does give you a foundation for learning the beginner's s…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 01:36 AM
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I mean...if he actually overcame it, it should come naturally for him to try to expand his social circle and talk to more women which will increase his chances of dating. He can simply maintain a "don't ask don't tell" policy regarding his lack of dating/sexual experience. Nobody needs to know about that anyway. Usually, lack of experience impacts a man's ability to navigate the dating world or even life to begin with. Missing out on teenage love or young adult(18-22) love can be crippling for m…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 12:34 AM
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In your opinion would the fact that they were single for a long time be the biggest turn off? Depends. There are levels to being single. If you're super religious, super picky, or someone who's a workaholic, people will actually be more indifferent or even supportive of you being single long cause they'll see it as a show of discipline. If it's clearly an involuntary situation that's driven by appearance, social anxiety, lack of friends, or perpetual rejections, that's usually when it hurts the …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 11:01 PM
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Like I said, either way, young hot women are going to want hot men whether it's through hookups or LTR's. Now, if we're talking plain looking college girls, that's a sorta different thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 09:32 PM
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I mean...maybe...maybe not? We're talking about the hot college girls here. They're going to have the most options and want the hottest guys the most. Some will prefer hookups with hot guys. Some will jump right into LTR's with them. But they're generally going to want men who they have raw attraction for either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 09:29 PM
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Tbh, I don't see much wrong with sugar dating as long as the men know what they sign up for. But, aside from that, I see what you mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 08:35 PM
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Let me quote myself again here. You can definitely score them as an older guy but you're going to have to bring more to the table than your age, especially if you're a late bloomer who has missed out on the normal experiences of sex/dating that average men typically go through. I didn't say older men can't date hot college girls. I just said that they had to bring a lot to the table to get them which is something that you also just confirmed in your own comment. Again, today's hot college girls …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 08:18 PM
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I feel like that’s cope. In reality late bloomer is someone who’s an incel or KHHV past the age of 19 Tbh, you're likely right but I was trying to be lenient because I've offended some posters before who insinuated that late bloomers are more common than I have said. I’m 23 ab to be 24 and I’m tryna make up for lost time now and bang hot college girls. I don’t have much time left but I feel like if I could get in shape soon, I’ll be able to date hot college girls until my late 20s hopefully Anyt…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 05:23 PM
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Seriously. You can tell which men here actually go outside and which are having LARP fantasies lol. Hot college girls are literally all over frat parties, nightclubs, bars, Tinder, Snapchat, and IG trying to hook up with the hottest dudes for sex/hookups and relationships. You can definitely score them as an older guy but you're going to have to bring more to the table than your age, especially if you're a late bloomer who has missed out on the normal experiences of sex/dating that average men t…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 04:24 PM
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It depends on what he means by "late bloomer." People always seem to have different terms for it. It seems like the poster you're responding to is using it differently from how I see it. It usually means a man who has remained involuntary single or celibate until 25 and older, missing completely out on the normal process of sex and dating as average men. For these types of men, they usually do not live up to the fantasy of hooking up with hot college girls at all. Many of them will eventually ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 04:19 PM
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That's because, besides money/resources, sex is something that gives men tons of social status. Women believe this too which is why they call men they dislike "incels" instead of "fuckboys." Even women are aware that sex is a social status boost for men in society.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 04:07 PM
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On the other hand, men have made it very clear bofy count matters to them. Many of us are hesitant to want to committ ourselves to someone who has sexually opened themselves to multiple other men. Maybe in 1960. But men wife up reformed thots and women who've had hookups/casual sex before all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 03:59 PM
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It's really a complimentary insult though. It's similar to calling someone a rich asshole. Sure....you're technically calling him an asshole but you're also acknowledging that he's rich. Sex is part of what gives men social status.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 03:57 PM
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I'm straight up American.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 07:49 PM
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Have you seen poly/ENM people? Most of them are far from attractive! Touche. The ones that try to match with me on OLD for "threesomes" tend to be on the more attractive side though. I'm no Victoria's Secret model. I'm average at best, but I seriously wonder how a blue haired landwhale can pull multiple partners while I can't even get one. A loose woman will always be able to rack up numbers, regardless of how she looks. Now, the quality of their partners is usually not that great. In fact, I've…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 03:06 PM
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On paper, yes. But in the new OLD and Instagram age, more unmarried people in the dating scene are sharing partners, knowingly or unknowingly. It's not even that gendered either. Whenever I match with a young and attractive woman on OLD or IG, I immediately get skeptical and put on my Gary Coleman "Whatcha Talkin About Willis" face until I get to chat with them. And, lo and behold, I sometimes see other dudes commenting on their IG about how they also matched and chatted on OLD.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 03:01 PM
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An unfortunate truth is that the most universally attractive people, male or female, are now accessible to everybody because of OLD and social media. The end result is that there's now a dopamine rush due to being exposed to so many of the utmost desirable men and women online and it becomes hard to imagine being with an Average Joe or Plain Jane even if one is average looking themselves. "Sharing partners" is basically FOMO if you really think about it. Instead of "settling for less", many peop…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 02:56 PM
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Or dudes chasing sugar babies.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 02:46 PM
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Are you from Louisiana by any chance?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 12:16 AM
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Yep.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 07:57 PM
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Tbh, I'm mainly basing this on Reddit. I don't use Tik Tok and, on IG, I'm mostly either going through my friends' stories or following hip hop platforms like SayCheese.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 07:57 PM
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I agree. People also exaggerate how much BM "chase" White women to begin with. It's exaggerated due to historical stigmas and porn like you said. I guess it depends on where you live but that hasn't been my experience living in the East Coast and Texas. If anything, I've seen more Black men pursue IR with Hispanic(esp. Puerto Rican and Mexican) women than anything else. I even know some BM in my area who date/marry Mexican and SE Asian women for "traditional values" and sometimes these are the m…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 04:42 PM
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Oh no. I totally agree with you. White men have the most universal appeal looks-wise and have the strongest media halo. But the idea that non-White men are automatically struggling is BS and something many chronically online White dudes and self-loathing minorities love to push on Reddit. It doesn't line up with my experiences at all either. Incels are a rarity among every race AFAIK. But I especially never met or encountered a Black or Latino one despite living in areas full of them(Even now, I…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 04:35 PM
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Most incels are nonwhite. If you say so.....I never met one irl and only talked to them online so I'll take your word for it. Go to any lame meet up singles group and it’s disproportionately nonwhite guys. You mean irl? Cause, if so, I live in Houston and see Black and Mexican couples litrerally dominating nightlife and club events all the time. In fact, I was just at such an event last night and and saw tons of non-White couples there bumping to 90's/early 00's hip hop and R&B. This very much d…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 01:58 AM
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That's the thing though. White guys are generally perceived by the absolute best of their populations while the opposite is true of Non-White men except in certain scenarios like the NBA or K Pop. It's something that both helps and hurts White guys. It helps with them being the "most desirable" overall but it makes average Joe White guys who aren't 6'3 handsome Blondes with money worse off in a way due to the Apex Fallacy. It's the main reason why White dudes are the main demographic online who …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 11:32 PM
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Even though my Dad was a serial cheater and alcoholic who ruined his marriage early on, I'll never downplay how helpful he's been in teaching me skills that helped me out when it comes to social skills, dating, dressing up, and grooming. I'll always been grateful for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 10:30 PM
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White men are pushed as the most desirable hands down. It's to the point where there's hostility online even towards the very notion that Black and Asian men can be desirable. Make a Reddit thread about how Black men are supposedly the "most desirable." That shit will get downvoted and ratioed and filled with negative comments claiming "BBC is a myth." Now, do the same thing with White men. All of a sudden, people will act like the average White man is a 6'3 Blonde GigaChad making 6 figures with…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 10:18 PM
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Judging from your posting history, both of you seem to be experts on the topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 10:11 PM
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What meme? Most memes about Black men online are negative. If anything, people online tend to stereotype White men as ultra slaying 6'3 Blonde Chads who "mog" Non-White men despite many struggling to date and have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 10:09 PM
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The truth lies somewhere in between. By no means is the average Black man an ultra slayer but normal Black men get dates and sex all the time with regular women. Interracial mixing definitely happens but is overblown. The majority of every group except American born Asian women primarily dates/marries their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 10:08 PM
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Ahh...I admittingly misread and jumped the gun.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 05:50 PM
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‘I’m a new racist’: Michigan judge suspended after insulting gay and Black people on recordings | Michigan | The Guardian
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 05:28 PM
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This.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 05:25 PM
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This.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 03:27 AM
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Every now and again, PPD posters will drop gems in the midst of the poo flinging.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 07:18 PM
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Fertility crisis is a very serious issue. You can't continue importing immigrants forever without destroying what you are as a country. Maybe in Europe but immigration benefits America.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 06:32 PM
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Why Are So Many Young Chinese Depressed? (northwestern.edu)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 06:30 PM
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Sugar dating is also an option too(albeit some sugar babies push for dead bedrooms if they're not into the SD like that).
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 06:29 PM
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Yep. Trial and error is becoming an outdated concept.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 06:18 PM
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Make up does wonders.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 04:40 PM
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Sometimes I wonder if Reddit just draws a lot of people who don't chat with many normal people outside. The average age Americans lose their virginity is 17 years old for both genders. The average American 17 year old boy is not a Chad lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 01:53 AM
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Lmao. Some dudes really think that on here.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 01:51 AM
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I didn't say American women shouldn't get dates. I'm just saying all this talk about women being " way beyond" the average Joe are highly exaggerated on here.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 01:50 AM
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Reddit as a whole. It's weird too because it operates on 2 extremes: either exaggerating us as these hypersexual fuckboys who get pussy all the time or being a bunch of losers who turn off women unless we're celebrities or athletes. It's like Reddit is incapable of nuance when it comes to discussing us lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 01:40 AM
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I remember getting called a "Chad" on here before for having an active sexual life. And I'm definitely not a Chad. I'm only 5'9, work a boring accounting job, and am more of a Donald Glover type of guy who's both suave and nerdy at the same time than an "alpha male."
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 01:25 AM
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True. Nowadays, I see dudes online cheapen the term "Chad" so much that damn near any man who has casual sex or hooks up gets labeled one which makes no sense. I remember when "Chad" used to be only reserved for the most ideal type of men who were tall, handsome, rich, and socially outgoing with tons of dating/hookup options. Now, it's damn near used for a whole bunch of non-ugly men who get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 01:21 AM
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Exactly. I don't know where people get this whole "media promotes BM" thing. 90% of male sex symbols in Hollywood are White and there's more IR pairings in movies/shows involving WM and non-White women than vice versa lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 01:10 AM
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Eh....this isn't really true though. 90% of male Hollywood sex symbols and romantic interests are White dudes. There's plenty of BW/WM depictions in the media. Hell, look at all the coverage Meghan Markle gets. It's not really a media thing. Black and Hispanic men just tend to be more naturally confident and self-assured with approaching and trying to date/fuck women which helps a lot. Having a "mouthpiece" or game is instilled in us from day one(usually). White men still have the biggest media …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 01:09 AM
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Sheesh....
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 01:05 AM
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The average American woman is 5'4, 170 lbs, and makes less than $50,000 annually. Pot meets kettle.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 01:04 AM
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bad men don't walk around with a sign around their necks. They exist like normal people, they have family, friends, jobs even. That's not what many women say on this sub though.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 07:36 PM
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I'm confident and have a high n-count but would say that I'm a 7 at best. Social skills and charisma really are a cheat code. I've had many women irl say that I should become an actor or do stand up.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 05:01 PM
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Makes sense. I've outslayed some guys with the "Chad" archetype in my college years mainly due to being more charismatic/funny, a heavy drinker, and showing up to every party. I also knew a hipster dressed Black dude with a big Afro who played the guitar really well and would serenade girls on campus with different songs he wrote. That dude got more pussy than many athletes and frat boys on campus and he wasn't even close to a "Chad."
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 04:59 PM
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This. If anything, I always thought that ugly dudes were known for being louder and funnier than other types of men as a form of overcompensation. The only exception being neurodivergent ugly men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 04:42 PM
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Eh...not really.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 04:39 PM
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I agree with you but, to play Devil's advocate, Indians are some of the richest and most educated people in the U.S. and arranged marriages are very normalized in their culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 03:56 PM
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Women complain about "bad" men and how the "bar is in hell" all the time on Reddit but then act like they don't know what a "bad" man is on here. Ah...gotta love that good old fashioned doublespeak.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 03:40 PM
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You're leaving out a lot of other types including religious men, neurodivergent men, men who don't party and drink, men born to strict immigrant families, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 06:03 AM
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Eh...not really. It really depends on where you live or even what demographic you're talking about. Tons of average looking working class men driving trucks, working in restaurant kitchens, and stocking shelves at Walmart are fucking around like rabbits but it's just not with Stacy's.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 10:42 PM
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Casual sex is still mainly driven by people under 30 though. Over 30, the majority of men have sex through marriages or LTR's. It was even studied. That's not to say the average young man is sexually active but it's primarily driven by young people.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 10:37 PM
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This.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 10:36 PM
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The "slut" and "fuckboy" aesthetic are probably becoming more popular than actual sluts and fuckboys.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 10:33 PM
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I don't know. I'm positively certain there's far more openly transactional and "sugar" based relationships in Latin America and Southeast Asia compared to the U.S.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 03:50 PM
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The average American woman is 5'4, weighs over 170 pounds, and makes less than $50,000 a year annually. Looks like we both have room for improvement.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 03:49 PM
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Ironically, Ben Carson made this exact same argument a decade ago and the Left crucified him for it. Ben Carson says being gay is a choice, citing prison example - POLITICO
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 03:42 PM
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This isn't gendered.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 03:41 PM
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Were your parents immigrants out of curiosity?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 03:35 PM
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The majority of men lose their virginity before the age of 22. I definitely wouldn't call the majority of men "alphas."
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 03:19 PM
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So.......close to 70% of those young men still reported having sex? I mean....I'm not saying that's ideal but, especially in the age where people are constantly glued to their phones and don't get out as much, that's not even that bad. Keep in mind that the average age of losing virginity is still 17 years old. Trust me....kids may not be having as much sex as they used to be but it still happens. I've talked to my younger cousins about this topic too and they literally couldn't believe that 17 …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 07:53 PM
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Young men being "single" doesn't say much. I know younger Gen Z guys who fucked like rabbits in high school and college or have been on dates who would still claim to be "single." "Single" =/= sexless/dateless. Many times, people interpret not being single as being in a long term committed relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 03:29 PM
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Seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 03:25 PM
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Grown men?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 04:48 AM
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Online or in person?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 04:35 AM
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The problem with this is that it often involves an Apex fallacy with 30+ men while comparing them to average women. Obviously, a 38 year old tall and handsome guy with a cushy office job is going to have more quality options in the dating market than an overweight divorced 38 year old single mom with a plain face. But, if you compare the actual average 38 year old on both sides, there really isn't that much of a power shift.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 04:34 AM
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Lol...what? Men hitting the wall makes them invisible to like 98% of women lmao. What you're describing is men overcoming the wall.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 04:28 AM
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Eh...most men aren't exactly doing hard labor jobs either.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 04:26 AM
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Nah. Adult men treat ugly women as invisible for the most part which is different from "harsh" treatment. Many ugly women on Reddit have even said so themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 04:24 AM
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Eh...not really. Many of the things they complain about are theoretical while generalizing men as hateful misogynists.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 12:20 AM
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Hating men in general is more socially accepted in Western society though so it's apples and oranges.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 11:44 PM
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What's your view of r/TwoXChromosomes?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 11:42 PM
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So was George Carlin. Is he attractive too?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 03:12 AM
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Nah. He's like 6'4.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 01:49 AM
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We used to call it "Tupac in a business suit."
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 01:34 AM
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Because society says men and women are equal. But reality is not Biologically true. In the past it was accepted that men need to work hard to prove their worth, and that is just what it means to be a man. Modern society says gender equality is the new trend. The young men scratch their heads and say, "but I have a few questions. How come the women dont need to work hard during their 20s and get men with little effort?". How exactly are you defining "working hard" here because I'm pretty sure 20 …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 02:57 AM
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True. As a man, I'd rather be fetishized than flat out undesired. I've been fetishized by certain women before and it wasn't a problem for hookups and what have you. I can see why the dynamic is different for women though.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 01:40 AM
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Most would not. Ain't no young man lining up to fuck Big Bertha from the retirement home. Stop the cap. You're giving men a bad name. 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 01:26 AM
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More like, by age 30 the men dont feel the need to commit to a long term relationship and marriage because he has more to lose and less to gain. Eh...what? Men in their 30's are way more likely to be married or in committed relationships than men in their 20's. I'm only 30 myself and a lot of my male friends on social media are in LTR's or marriages and the single ones who still date around are generally focused on that. Perpetually single bachelors are increasing in number but they're not as mu…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 01:13 AM
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A man is not gonna just willingly never date younger women ever purely for the sake of being nice to other other men. I'm aware it's a supply and demand market. I'm just saying it's funny that the RP keeps harping on about young men's dating woes based on some (cherrypicked) stats while contributing to that very problem lol. Not everyone can do it, obviously. But, then, which is it? Cause the RP says that most average man can work out, get their money up, buy property, and enter their peak of SM…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 10:53 PM
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Also, the idea that the average Joe can have a "glow up" or good job in his 30's and have his pick of the litter of hot college girls pretty much contradicts the concern that the RP claims to have for the "rising datelessness" of young men. For one, they're essentially contributing to this perceived "rising datelessness" by trying to date young women themselves and there's no need to worry for these young men if they're just a career and glow up away from becoming psuedo-Chads in their 30's with…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 06:01 PM
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Ironically, I mainly see teenage and young boys teasing and mocking each other about their height irl. I see it very often and it's ironically usually a case of average height boys teasing shorter boys. That's why I think it's a mistake for people to assume that height bias towards men is just a woman thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 04:55 PM
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Eh....older women here on Reddit talk about being hit on and flirted with all the time and I do believe that "the wall" is pretty exaggerated and mainly hyper fixated by inexperienced young men. Height preferences tend to be overexaggerated on Reddit tbh. Outside maybe Tinder, nobody really lumps average height(5'7-5'11) men with actual short men(< 5'7) and average height men don't really struggle too much despite not having a height halo. But actual short men do have it quite bad in dating unle…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 04:52 PM
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Well, too bad men can't control other men. To be fair, though, obese women usually don't have the same options that average weight or slim women do. This especially becomes evident if you spend time in affluent or upper-middle class areas. You literally never see fat women in relationships with non-fat men in those parts. Blue collar and poor areas have more of that dynamic though.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 02:54 PM
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JD Vance literally is being demonized all over the country and almost costing Trump his campaign for his "cat ladies" remark so this is very inaccurate in the modern age.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 02:22 PM
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Yep. I've heard more "down low" and "I think he's gay" comments and jokes from women than men irl. And these same women are friends with gay dudes. Even my mother is like that. She'll condemn gay men and claim they're sinful yet she'll be friendly and courteous towards the zestiest dudes I've ever met and not make the connection lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 02:20 PM
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Yeah. And it's ironic because the Red Pill used to make out Chads to be this rare specimen among men who was the perfect combination of looks, height, charisma, money, and social status. But now they damn near call any man who gets dates or casual sex a "Chad" or "alpha" which completely cheapens and waters down both lexicons.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 04:13 PM
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The latter is actually worse. It's literally the difference between a man saying that they're not into Indian women for their appearance verses them saying they're not into Indian women because of *insert negative stereotypes*. If women could just say "I'm not attracted to guys with ugly features/looks but I know they can still be great people" that'd be perfectly acceptable. Instead, some of them like to assume ugly men have worse character traits than attractive men which is pretty messed up.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 04:05 PM
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I meant to say women. I edited it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 04:00 PM
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There's also the fact that some of those men that are perceived as "bad boys" by other men can be very two-faced which can lead to a difference in perception by the men and women accessing them. I used to live in a home with 5 other dudes who would say some of the most misogynistic and edgiest stuff imaginable in private and they all supported Trump(hell, I did too briefly). Yet they all came across as smooth, funny, and naturally charismatic around the ladies whenever we would head out to the b…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 02:10 AM
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To an extent, yes. The main difference, though, is that men tend to have more self-awareness about our shallowness rather than accusing unattractive women of having horrible personalities like women do with unattractive men. I've never heard men claim that ugly women act worse than hot women the same way women love to claim "ugly men" treat women badly across the Internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 01:41 AM
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That's a bit of a stretch but yeah....it's going to be a weird dilemma for progressive women in the future as demographics change throughout the West via mass immigration. But the blame should go on the Right for doubling down on the abortion issue which has basically become the gift that keeps on giving for the Left. A Leftist candidate can be as qualified as a bum off the street to run the country but he'll always be able to use the abortion issue to scare women into supporting him. The Right …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 06:01 PM
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The dilemma is that, due partly to the abortion issue, women are becoming stronger allies to the very parties who are pushing for unlimited mass immigration from these types of countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 04:51 PM
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My late grandfather from rural South Carolina was a unique case. He didn't believe that women should be deacons or preachers in the church, should know how to cook and clean, should obey their husbands, etc. but he also encouraged all of his daughters to get a good education and gainful employment so that they wouldn't be so vulnerable to poverty, sexual exploitation, and racism(which sparked my mom to move to Brooklyn at 18 years old for work and school).
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 02:14 AM
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Then why do women often say "that's why no woman will ever want to be with you" towards the very men they claim are Incels? I'm pretty sure there's a clear correlation between calling a man an Incel and thinking he's unsuccessful with women. People also say "Incels don't realize that it's their attitudes that turn off women not their looks." Again, if there's no correlation between men getting called Incels and romantic/sexual success, why is there usually a presumption that Incels are turning o…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 02:07 AM
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Most North American cities are not just car-centric anti-human ghettos but also explicitly anti-teenagers/young people. This is assuming that North American cities are monolithic. Are you seriously insisting that NYC, LA, Houston, Chicago, Atlanta, Toronto, Montreal, San Francisco, Charlotte, DC, Boston, Vegas, Miami, Seattle, Philly, Vancouver, and Phoenix offer the same exact experiences? Cities are literally where the young people flock to alongside college towns.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 04:20 PM
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You're technically not forced to consume at malls. Also, since when have public spaces generally not involved some level of consumption? You think bars, clubs, restaurants, gyms, social clubs, etc. back in the day were free? Also, there's still parks, churches, volunteering groups, libraries/book stores, etc. where you can socialize with others without spending money. But having the opportunity to socialize with many people has always come at a literal cost. If one is truly trying to change thei…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 12:25 PM
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The thing is: There are still public places. People are just voluntarily going to them less. I literally see kids/teens hanging out at McDonald's on my lunch breaks when I get coffee(or fries). They don't even get meals. They just buy nuggets, ice cream, or fries then hang out and start talking about random stuff. And that's not even accounting for the actual spaces and social clubs meant for people to socialize in. People are just increasingly checking out of socializing despite the venues bein…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 11:53 AM
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I mean....I'm just speculating where it stems from because you inquired.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 05:26 PM
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Only works if they were already on that trajectory in their 20's. People don't "suddenly" become successful and desirable in their 30's if their 20's was spent working dead end jobs and letting themselves go.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 05:25 PM
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How are we defining "no friends" here? Are we taking it literally and describing someone who doesn't have a single person that they can talk to or text on the phone, has no friends/followers on social media, no one who shares their hobbies/interests, and no one who they hang out with? If so, that's very unusual even beyond the realms of just being an introvert(most introverts still have a few friends at minimum). I'm not saying the man wouldn't be a good partner or not but part of dating stems f…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 05:19 PM
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Kevin Samuels and some other Red Pill podcasters often promote this idea that "High Value Men" should be allowed to cheat because of how valuable and desirable they are and that it's unnatural for them to be completely monogamous. Something along those lines....
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 04:53 PM
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Again, you are out of touch. Retail stores are literally filing for bankruptcy even with online and Amazon options. People aren't overspending as much as you think. Also, lmao at thinking that not buying an iPhone will help in raising and financially investing in your child. That's not even remotely close to the biggest expenses involving children. iPhones are a dime a dozen and not even that expensive if you have a good plan. Also, Japan is a pretty non-materialistic and minimalist country and …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 08:54 PM
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That's part of it too.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 08:47 PM
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This is exactly something Alex Jones would say. "You can't trust anything because the elites are witholding the real information." It's literally a textbook talking point of his lol. If you don't trust the census bureau, you might as well not trust anything because all it does is collect data that we as citizens contribute to ourselves in our census forms and other tools that collect our data input for the government.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 06:56 PM
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Yeah.....your situation is very much an anomaly. After taxes and bills, the majority of workers especially younger workers are 2 paychecks away from sleeping in a shelter. Most people who desire a family want a house for that family to live in. Well, guess what? Not only have stagnant wages made it hard to purchase a house in most areas but the skyrocketing costs of homes has blocked out even many techies with 6 figure salaries from owning homes. 60 percent of tech workers in survey say they can…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 06:46 PM
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Poor people have more kids. So do the rich. More Babies For the Rich? The Relationship Between Status and Children Is Changing | Institute for Family Studies (ifstudies.org) As I just said, it's both the rich/affluent and the uneducated poor who are having the most babies with the latter often having the biggest regrets about having kids due to putting them in poverty and horrible living conditions. Who in the world would want to live in poverty and be depressed and broke with no free time just …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 06:05 PM
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The government census literally only collects data. It's not the New York Times, Fox News, or MSNBC. Saying that the fucking government census isn't reliable is Alex Jones level of delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 05:50 PM
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Straight from the Census my guy. National Marriage and Divorce Rates Declined From 2011 to 2021 (census.gov)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 05:18 PM
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