portrayalofdeath Archive

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1	CMV: The more high value the man is , the more likely he is to want a woman with a good job I feel like this is only an issue in conservative circles.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/02/21 03:35 AM
0	CMV: The more high value the man is , the more likely he is to want a woman with a good job But all sources out there disagree with you, from the academics to the people in reporting on financial matters. How come you still don't think you're being unreasonable and that your definition that is so different from practically everyone else's is the correct one?	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/02/21 02:43 AM
2	CMV: The more high value the man is , the more likely he is to want a woman with a good job Yeah, but it's such an easy job that anyone could do it, so for me it's hard to justify either its supposed nobility or its having to be highly paid. I mean, a big part of the reason people go into these jobs in the first place is because of the salary vs skills needed ratio, similar to, say, going into nursing (or hell, the military). And that's honestly perfectly fine with me, because I think everyone should be able to make a living doing what they enjoy. Just, you know, no need to make it out…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/02/21 07:10 PM
1	CMV: The more high value the man is , the more likely he is to want a woman with a good job OK, but by education level I'm sure he meant that they're roughly equally educated in practice (actual education level), not just that they both have, say, bachelor's degrees (formal education level). Someone with a degree in education and early childhood development has an actual education level that's closer to a high school degree than a(ny) STEM one. This, of course, doesn't mean that someone with the latter degree will necessarily be "smarter" (however you define that), but it does mean the…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/02/21 06:22 PM
2	CMV: The more high value the man is , the more likely he is to want a woman with a good job Working with children should be viewed as a noble job What's noble about working with children?	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/02/21 06:11 PM
2	CMV: The more high value the man is , the more likely he is to want a woman with a good job Oh, gotcha. And Heidelberg isn't in Germany then, either, huh?	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/02/21 02:47 AM
2	CMV: The more high value the man is , the more likely he is to want a woman with a good job These schools are 100% safety for kids who are well-off and decent academically. You're tripping hard if you think Oxford is anyone's safety. Not sure how you lumped it in with those other ones. It's easily better and more prestigious than the majority of Ivy League schools. Not to mention you can't buy your way in.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/02/21 02:12 AM
1	Men should adopt women’s mindset when it comes to dating and relationships That's a nice ideal to have, but unlike women, single older men are heavily discriminated against in society. Single older women face the same issue. I think the pressure from society might be even worse for them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/02/21 01:49 AM
0	Men should adopt women’s mindset when it comes to dating and relationships You didn't see that two different people made those two statements?	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/02/21 12:07 AM
1	Men should adopt women’s mindset when it comes to dating and relationships God DAMN, is this guy bitter.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/02/21 11:25 PM
1	Men should adopt women’s mindset when it comes to dating and relationships Better to be alone then to give up your dignity. This isn't about dignity, it's about some people valuing companionship more than others. Nothing wrong with either, it's just a different set of values and preferences.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/02/21 08:21 PM
1	Men should adopt women’s mindset when it comes to dating and relationships I mean, I have asked men out before and I don't consider myself desperate, but I am sure SOME men see that as a desperate behavior. It's a cost benefit issue. Do I want to potentially give off a desperate vibe? Will he think that means I'm an easy lay? But I don't want a tradcon anyway, so if he disrespects me and tries to get laid quickly, I can weed him out faster. Right, but that's what I'm saying, that for you there is a perceived cost to asking a guy out. It's higher than for the guy doing …	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/02/21 07:41 PM
1	Men should adopt women’s mindset when it comes to dating and relationships The fact that I had a man a mere two weeks ago talk unprompted about how important a woman kissing him is to his perception of what's happening indicates that he's not a rare outlier. He's not the first guy I've come across that uses that information to determine her attraction, right or wrong. I would generalize that many men think the way he did. I feel like you're not getting what he's saying. He's talking specifically about who makes the first move to kiss, not about kissing in general. I'm …	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/02/21 07:35 PM
1	Men should adopt women’s mindset when it comes to dating and relationships Maybe I mixed you up with someone, but weren't you saying in some other thread that if women approach or ask out guys it's seen as desperate (and some other stuff that I now forget) and that therefore guys should do it? Since it isn't desperate for the latter to do that, you clearly see a difference between the male and female role in this regard, so I'm not sure why you'd be quibbling about the "male role" here.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/02/21 12:13 AM
1	What are your standards? Other commenters, are these standards reasonable? I haven't researched HIV enough (My understanding is that it no longer impacts life expectancy in developed countries. Other STDs definitely don't matter. I'm vaccinated against HPV and hepatitis. Herpes is harmless. Everything else is curable.) If your partner had HIV and they were taking antiretroviral meds, they also couldn't pass it onto you via unprotected sex or otherwise. So there's really no impact on you whatsoever, other than that they have to take the time each day to take their meds.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/02/21 09:11 PM
2	What are your standards? Other commenters, are these standards reasonable? It speaks volumes about western society that yours is the only post that mentions this It does and it's only good things.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/02/21 08:44 PM
2	Promiscuity is bad for men and women I honestly hope you do! Look at these: https://www.lego.com/en-us/product/colosseum-10276 and https://www.lego.com/en-us/product/nintendo-entertainment-system-71374. Mamma mia!	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/02/21 07:39 PM
2	What are your standards? Other commenters, are these standards reasonable? How does that contradict what he's saying? You probably have to bring a non-violent personality to the table yourself, too, no?	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/02/21 05:16 PM
1	Men should be expected to make the first move and pay for dates. Neither do I, but just pointing out that your stat doesn't necessarily go against what she's saying. They could both be true, but 1 in 10 over the course of a year seems high to me, too.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/02/21 03:50 AM
2	Men should be expected to make the first move and pay for dates. Yeah, the OP's logic is as follows. X is a problem that Y doesn't solve. But since X is a bigger problem for women than men, men should do Y. I don't even disagree that some of the things that she mentions are indeed bigger problems for women than men, but this is straight dummy logic.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/02/21 03:04 AM
1	Men should be expected to make the first move and pay for dates. The pill is 99% effective. Yeah, but that's for a single instance of sexual intercourse, and the effectiveness is lower with multiple.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/02/21 03:00 AM
1	CMV: Men are influenced by "presence" too, not just women women who come off as very timid, afraid, fragile, insecure, cover themselves up etc. That's absolutely still a certain type of presence, though.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/01/21 09:02 PM
1	Promiscuity is bad for men and women past behavior is the best predicator of futur behavior Yeah, but what you're doing here is saying past behavior A (having sex with a lot of different partners) is the best predictor of behavior B (cheating), which is clearly a fallacy unless you establish a causative link between the two (or something that underlies both and causes them to co-occur with a high frequency).	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/01/21 01:28 AM
1	Promiscuity is bad for men and women By your logic, walking on the sidewalk is also bad for your health because it carries a negligible risk that something will happen to you. The chances of catching an STD if you're using protection are exceedingly small, and pretty much all STDs are either curable or treatable. This is pure fearmongering.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/01/21 01:11 AM
2	Promiscuity is bad for men and women his only imperfection is his distaste for an SO having a promiscuous past Nah, you can't just isolate this like you're trying to. If someone has a problem with this, then his personality will clash with people that don't in other respects, too.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/01/21 12:36 AM
4	Promiscuity is bad for men and women It insinuates that your earlier choice wasn't one based on rationale and expectations for the future. It suggests that you don't actually believe or feel comfortable being a str person and are trying to have it both ways. Which is degrading to your previous actions. None of this is necessarily true, because people can want different things in different stages of their life without that somehow being contradictory and contrary to their personality.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/01/21 12:32 AM
1	Speaking from personal and observational experience, why do you think most men have trouble getting dates ? I know fat chicks that self report as 7s lol No, you don't.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/01/21 12:15 AM
1	Speaking from personal and observational experience, why do you think most men have trouble getting dates ? I was definitely seen as the loser for having to approach first. As a woman, we aren't supposed to do that. We aren't supposed to be "desperate." Men will look down on women for that a lot more than a woman will look down on a man who asks for a date. I honestly think this is entirely in your head. I've never once heard of any woman suffering negative consequences for approaching someone. Doesn't mean it never, but I think it's exceedingly rare.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/01/21 12:07 AM
1	Speaking from personal and observational experience, why do you think most men have trouble getting dates ? However, most didn't approach me. How do you know they found you attractive, though?	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/01/21 11:12 PM
5	Where do your views on female sex drive and attraction come from? Why are you jumping on him when he never said that because of his experiences he makes sweeping generalizations you accuse him of?	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/21 10:02 PM
2	Has anybody here shifted their perspective after engaging in a Purple Pill Debate? Now that PPD is overrun with LARPing virgins and non-westerners Damn, wtf?! I'm a westerner, but what's with the racism?	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/21 09:40 PM
1	Modern women's demands for constant contact is a leading cause of relationships going stale Did you hate your family growing up? Is it unpleasant having co-workers? Hmm, I feel like a lot of people would answer "yes" to both of those questions.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/21 01:35 AM
2	It shouldn't matter that only 20% of men are considered attractive when 70% of young men are having sex. I think 3. to try to give meaning to their lives is the most common and disgusting reason they have.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/21 12:28 AM
4	It shouldn't matter that only 20% of men are considered attractive when 70% of young men are having sex. To be fair, I think most of those men that "choose" foregoing sex do so as a coping mechanism, not because they actually lack the desire for it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/21 12:15 AM
1	"She Wrote Fake News for Cosmopolitan" To what extend do women follow media, magazines etc? I just don’t buy it Why not?	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/01/21 11:20 PM
1	When a man cheats on his parter, the woman he cheats with is more to blame than himself. they dont owe any duties to any of the parties involved This really depends on the person's set of morals. I think pretty much every person will have loyalty to their romantic partner in theirs, but a large number of people might also have not sleeping with a person that's in a relationship with someone else in it. Clearly, the people condemning both sides have both of those in their set, so even though in my view morality is subjective, a lot of people would indeed hold that the cheated-with wo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/01/21 01:40 AM
1	Do you think that cheating is different between the genders? For real, I've seen a lot of ridiculous claims on this subreddit, but women never having sex with men without feelings is definitely up there with the best or worst of them, depending on how you view them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/21 11:43 PM
1	How much do women actually care about money? Yeah I mean I'm basing it off a sample size of about 8 if I really want to hold it to 'stunningly beautiful women.' But in that 6 some of the parents include an owner of a company that you likely hear about daily or semi-daily, a CEO of a 1,000ish employee company, a successful investor, two doctors, a blue collar family, a top lawyer in California, and a couple that I don't know what they do but they grew up in mansions. I think that's just because they have the means to present themselves in a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/21 12:09 AM
1	How do younger women typically respond to older men showing interest in them? RP claims women like older guys. I get the point you're trying to make, but who cares about the stuff you listed?	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/01/21 08:19 PM
1	How do younger women typically respond to older men showing interest in them? RP claims women like older guys. Hopefully, a more interesting personality due to the accumulated experience.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/01/21 07:41 PM
1	When people blame single men for their lack of “ going outside “, what counts as going outside ? Kind of seems like he was trying to be edgy rather than lacking social skills.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/01/21 03:04 AM
1	When people blame single men for their lack of “ going outside “, what counts as going outside ? Is it weird to go to stuff like that by yourself? Not at all.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/01/21 02:45 AM
1	How has gaining weight impacted your dating life? If you're trying to look more masculine, facial hair helps the most. Got that covered :) Your face will also probably look more masculine as you get older. And yeah, I'm 35 myself, and I noticed this change, too.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/01/21 03:36 AM
1	How has gaining weight impacted your dating life? Cool, so I guess it was a win-win situation for you. I guess my face looks healthier when I'm heavier, too, though I wouldn't say more masculine, which is why I'm struggling with what I want to do with myself in this regard.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/01/21 03:25 AM
1	How has gaining weight impacted your dating life? Ended up spending about half a year bulking up to 150lbs and it was a night and day difference dating. How would you say your face changed? I'm honestly staying at a (very) low weight because I think my face looks better this way, but on the other hand, I unfortunately do admit that my body looks somewhat emasculated. Like you, I've been told by a few girls I'm too skinny, though that was only when they saw me without clothes, so in this way the opposite to you.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/01/21 03:19 AM
1	Q4Women: Which would you prefer, a talkative yet passionately distant man, or a non-talkative but passionate man? Possibly. I have OCD (among other things), too, and I found myself being able to relate to her story quite well.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/01/21 02:55 AM
1	How do you identify your looks match as a man exactly ? By the same token, just because a girl pulls a "Chad" doesn't mean she's a "Stacy".	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/01/21 01:57 AM
2	How do you identify your looks match as a man exactly ? it’s shitty, but the height thing is real. I kind of doubt most women have the same strict view as you do, though.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/01/21 01:53 AM
1	How do you identify your looks match as a man exactly ? What's 10 BMI supposed to be here? 10 BMI is gonna be around 200 points for people of normal weight then.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/01/21 01:33 AM
1	Q4Women: Which would you prefer, a talkative yet passionately distant man, or a non-talkative but passionate man? Right, but why autism? It sounds more like a mental health issue to me.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/01/21 01:19 AM
1	Dating in our 20s. It's the Smol Depression that really gets people, though.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/01/21 12:39 AM
1	How has losing weight impacted your dating life? He's not just projecting, he's also actively trying to discourage people from bettering themselves, so that they, too, wouldn't have any luck with women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/01/21 12:06 AM
1	How has losing weight impacted your dating life? Not to mention it's totally false.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/01/21 12:05 AM
1	How has losing weight impacted your dating life? I had other gastro problems that almost certainly had to do with huge calorie deficits. Why do you think that? You did run a pretty crazy deficit, but I've never seen anything that would indicate a connection with GI issues solely because of such a deficit. Not getting enough vitamins and minerals is a separate issue.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/01/21 11:37 PM
2	How has losing weight impacted your dating life? I doubt I would ever get to 10% bf anyway :) As a woman, you'd most likely be dead at that point, so you're right, haha. (The same look of leanness corresponds to a higher BF% for women than it does for men, since your bodies have more essential fat, relatively speaking.)	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/01/21 11:10 PM
1	Q4Women: Which would you prefer, a talkative yet passionately distant man, or a non-talkative but passionate man? How does what she wrote relate to autism at all?	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/01/21 07:42 PM
1	[Pre-Covid] Why are men drawn to online dating apps? Huh, really? I'm a guy, but the girls I've spoken to had no issue with being on there. Some of them also definitely knew they were desirable. And the "it's a hookup app" view seems quite outdated. I feel like most people don't treat it like that anymore, meaning they also see it as a viable means of finding a more serious relationship. It's for everything now and has been for a while, I think.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/01/21 03:57 AM
1	What proportion of the self improvement you do is solely for purpose of getting opposite sex attention? Yeah, I don't get why this is so controversial, either. I've also been told by women I was with that I should gain some weight, but I like myself this way better and intend to stick with it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/01/21 02:10 AM
0	What proportion of the self improvement you do is solely for purpose of getting opposite sex attention? I'm pretty sure he was joking...	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/01/21 01:57 AM
1	[Pre-Covid] Why are men drawn to online dating apps? Being on OLD is stigmatized among women. I don't get that impression at all.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/01/21 01:40 AM
2	[Pre-Covid] Why are men drawn to online dating apps? Yeah, but how do you know it won't lead some other guy somewhere?	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/01/21 12:51 AM
1	How is your dating & sex life? How successful have you been based on whatever you hope to achieve? Oh, gotcha. Do you think the difference is because you're in a smaller town now or is the dating scene in Germany better in general? I swiped in Edinburgh and it seemed cool, though I was only visiting for a few days. Never swiped anywhere in Germany, but I am actually thinking of moving there.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/01/21 12:15 AM
1	How is your dating & sex life? How successful have you been based on whatever you hope to achieve? Where are you now that the dating pool sucks, if you don't mind answering?	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/01/21 12:04 AM
1	What do you want from this place? How has this place enlightened you? If it makes you feel better, in my experience men here aren't representative of men IRL. Then again, it depends on what circles you run in.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/21 11:24 PM
1	Slutty women are happier than restricted women Men and women also tend to get prescribed different types of AD, can't find whether there is more clear data on why. I wonder if it has to do with stuff like, for example, guys rejecting the ones with possible sexual side effects more. Or more women not wanting to try those with weight gain listed as a common side effect (although these days perhaps self-consciousness about weight affects both sexes equally).	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/21 03:21 AM
1	Slutty women are happier than restricted women fluoxetine becky doesn't have the same ring to it Fluoxetine Becky honestly sounds cooler, haha.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/21 03:16 AM
1	Do you think a lot of men get very clingy and needy after dates/sex with you? I think the joke/implication was that the "bottom" 80% of men, however these guys define that, are the independent ones with their own lives.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/21 02:17 AM
2	Do you think a lot of men get very clingy and needy after dates/sex with you? I'm of the opinion that if it's someone you really like, you'll know at the six month mark whether you'd want to move in with them. I'm convinced that people who need longer than that to really get to know their partner are the ones that are very self-centered and that mostly talk about themselves without asking others question about them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/21 12:47 AM
1	Do you think women still face discrimination and sexism in the West? And how does this effect your view of women? What do you mean medical bias?	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/01/21 12:34 AM
2	What are your biggest hypocrisies in modern dating? I'm glad this doofus' account got suspended, he's been all over the place with this rejection-induced hatred and misrepresentation of women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/01/21 01:02 AM
1	What are your biggest hypocrisies in modern dating? If we choose a woman that has lesser education and/or financial status, we will be called the exploiters of a defenseless woman. I'm a guy and I've never heard anyone say that.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/01/21 10:21 PM
1	What are your biggest hypocrisies in modern dating? As a lean guy very much not into fat women (why do I even feel the need to make such a disclaimer?), I gotta say this doesn't sound hypocritical to me per se. If it's only a condition for who they find attractive, then I don't see the hypocrisy, because in my view people's preferences don't enter into that realm. It's like how some women like to feel small compared to the guy they're dating, yet I don't think anyone would call them hypocrites for wanting a big guy, them being smol notwithstandin…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/21 10:37 PM
1	What are your biggest hypocrisies in modern dating? Most men, if they were forced to admit the truth, would say they would want a virgin for a bride. Nah, just a small minority of puritans.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/21 06:04 PM
2	Q4W: When evaluating a man for candidacy as a sexual partner, do you consider the relative desirability of his previous partners (to the degree that you are able)? sometimes you wonder how someone who was into a certain type of very different person could also be into you Anecdotally, this is very much a girls' thing, in that among the people I know guys date very different girls, whereas girls mostly date the same guy in slightly different variations. So in my opinion, this is totally normal and nothing to dwell on.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/21 05:13 PM
1	Ex-Red pillers, what made you stop considering yourself red pill? So what's the point of inventing a term that sounds stupid and dehumanizing when it doesn't even characterize anything new?	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/21 07:04 AM
1	CMV: Most women lack self awareness about their unearned privilege when it comes to sex, dating, relationships and socializing. It's not us guys, it's them guys that actually do it. See the rest of the discussion I had with Zombombaby.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/01/21 10:33 PM
-1	Is it possible for women/men to have strictly platonic friends of the opposite sex? Would you consider dating a girl with a lot of guy friends, and vice versa? That seems like some weird prejudice, tbh. At the moment, I can't think of anyone that I know who'd only have opposite gender friends, though, so I can't support or discredit what you're saying with anecdotal evidence.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/01/21 06:47 AM
2	Is it possible for women/men to have strictly platonic friends of the opposite sex? Would you consider dating a girl with a lot of guy friends, and vice versa? I wouldn't date someone who ONLY has friends of the opposite gender though (imo that's kind of a red flag). Why is that a red flag?	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/01/21 05:40 AM
1	Have you ever been bullied by the opposite sex? I'm curious now, how did he bully you?	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/01/21 01:52 AM
1	CMV: Most women lack self awareness about their unearned privilege when it comes to sex, dating, relationships and socializing. Your point is men also fear men. That wasn't really my point, I was just explaining that that's what other people's point was, and that it doesn't matter who men fear. Men fearing men doesn't make it worse than if men had to fear women. My point is we should hold those men accountable and it's not a competition But yeah, I agree with that.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/01/21 01:52 AM
1	CMV: Most women lack self awareness about their unearned privilege when it comes to sex, dating, relationships and socializing. You're just arguing in bad faith now, because you keep addressing these strawmen that no one argued for.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/01/21 11:35 PM
1	CMV: Most women lack self awareness about their unearned privilege when it comes to sex, dating, relationships and socializing. I absolutely did not say that. Not only did I not say it, I wouldn't say it, because I disagree with what you're accusing me of agreeing with.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/01/21 11:31 PM
1	CMV: Most women lack self awareness about their unearned privilege when it comes to sex, dating, relationships and socializing. No one is saying either of those two things. The argument people are making is as follows: There are more men that are victims of assault than there are women that are victims of sexual assault, i.e. men are more likely to get assaulted. Since despite this men are not afraid of getting assaulted, women shouldn't be, either. That's the argument, and I don't even necessarily agree with it for multiple reasons. But it seems you're missing the whole point of what people were saying. No one was sayin…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/01/21 11:23 PM
2	CMV: Most women lack self awareness about their unearned privilege when it comes to sex, dating, relationships and socializing. Right, but no one disagreed with that.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/01/21 10:44 PM
2	CMV: Most women lack self awareness about their unearned privilege when it comes to sex, dating, relationships and socializing. So basically what you're implying is that somehow men are responsible for other men's behavior, too, so no problem if they get assaulted by them. Ridiculous. As I said and as others have said, it makes no difference who the aggressor is. No person is responsible for anyone else's behavior.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/01/21 10:21 PM
2	CMV: Most women lack self awareness about their unearned privilege when it comes to sex, dating, relationships and socializing. Why do you think this proves your point further? It doesn't matter who the aggressor is, all that matters is how likely you are to get assaulted. The only point this would "prove" would be that men should be afraid of other men even more than women are. And I'm really not trying to discount your or other women's fears, rational or not. I understand why you have them, but just commenting that your conclusion doesn't follow from what that guy said.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/01/21 10:16 PM
0	CMV: Most women lack self awareness about their unearned privilege when it comes to sex, dating, relationships and socializing. As a guy, I disagree with this simplification that the goal of sex is to orgasm. It might be one of the goals, but the main thing is establishing or maintaining the emotional and romantic connection.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/01/21 07:58 PM
2	CMV: Most women lack self awareness about their unearned privilege when it comes to sex, dating, relationships and socializing. To some that could suggest the possibility that men have higher sex drives overall, as they have significantly higher testosterone levels than women do Yeah, I feel like this doesn't necessarily follow, because it could also be that in females a certain testosterone level induces a higher libido than that same level in men. So I guess you'd have to figure out the "conversion factors" for testosterone levels between men and women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/01/21 07:47 PM
1	The reason PPD men don’t believe women who say they’re attracted to “personality” isn’t because we’re wired differently, it’s because they actually misunderstand which personality traits said women are referring to. If a guy comes cums in a bar is he well dressed? Can't stop reading it like this, sorry.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/01/21 02:26 AM
1	Conservative Values And Gender Roles Will Lead To A Happier Society Nietzsche wasn't an incel, though.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/01/21 01:32 AM
1	Do you believe you owe it to your partner to stay attractive? What's LL?	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/01/21 12:17 AM
1	How protective do women prefer their bfs to be in public? Is it attractive if they're rude to other people in favor of you? Why not both?	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/01/21 11:47 PM
2	Many men here seem to underestimate or downplay the role “charisma” and “presence” plays in female sexual arousal. For sure, I definitely agree with that.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/01/21 10:21 PM
1	Many men here seem to underestimate or downplay the role “charisma” and “presence” plays in female sexual arousal. Shy is the opposite of extroverted Mah, not really. Introverted is the opposite of extroverted, and shyness doesn't really have anything to do with introversion as such. Maybe the percentage of introverted people that are shy is higher than that of extroverted people, but still, they're different concepts and one doesn't even fall under the other.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/01/21 09:44 PM
1	Many men here seem to underestimate or downplay the role “charisma” and “presence” plays in female sexual arousal. confidence is useless if it’s making you a confident creep It's still an indicator of you feeling better about yourself, though, so regardless of how it impacts your success with women, it's good to strive for it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/01/21 08:25 PM
1	Womens dating standards arent as high as men act like they are Oh OK, yeah, I was just saying that in this case P(A and B and C) wouldn't be equal to P(A)P(B)P(C). But I think I still disagree with this post. Genetic facial attractiveness is very subjective, and even if it wasn't, if you're not lean, you can't really tell what your facial structure's like. Being chubby/fat is very much like an equalizer that flattens the otherwise greater variance in how attractive people's faces are, and I think it also severely reduces a person's attractiveness (again, …	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/01/21 07:44 PM
1	Womens dating standards arent as high as men act like they are how have u never seen that before. He's "never" seen it before, because both of you have a confirmation bias and are seeing what you want to see. The truth is probably that it'll go in either direction roughly the same amount of times.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/01/21 07:14 PM
1	Womens dating standards arent as high as men act like they are What's SES?	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/01/21 06:55 PM
1	Womens dating standards arent as high as men act like they are You're a top 4% man by joint probability. Just wanna point out that that's not true unless A, B, and C are independent of each other. They're not, though, because I'm sure you'll find, for example, that people with a college degree tend to also be not fat or obese more frequently than those without. A and C are also clearly even more intertwined and dependent on each other. You get the idea. I get your point, but just saying.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/01/21 04:01 AM
1	Despite men and women being roughly equal in population, attractive men are seen as scarce, why is that? I’m hard-pressed to find anyone who’s ever heard of or at least met a sugar mama Seriously? They're not as prevalent as sugar daddies, but they definitely exist.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/01/21 02:38 AM
1	Why don't men care about a girl's social status or money as much as women care about a man's social status or money? Huh? No, he didn't. Even if he said that, the implication wouldn't have been they'd mostly talk about their job.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/01/21 03:15 AM
4	Why don't men care about a girl's social status or money as much as women care about a man's social status or money? Why would you mostly talk about your job though? He never implied this at all.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/01/21 03:09 AM
1	The value of the term misogyny -very confused As I said, what's on the list isn't the point.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/01/21 03:39 PM
-2	The value of the term misogyny -very confused Not sure I'd call it misogyny myself, but I can see where the comments are coming from, and perhaps it does (just barely) fall under it. The whole concept of making a video about which woman is relationship material and which one isn't does betray certain prejudice, because it implies that a woman has to conform to some standards to be considered "worthy" (in this case of a relationship). It also takes away from women being seen as complete individuals and paints them as a collection of checked …	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/01/21 03:48 AM
1	Question for everyone: if you could get rid of your sex drive without damaging your body or motivation in any way, would you? There is a point, though; it's to get off and get that pleasurable feeling.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/01/21 10:31 PM
1	Question for everyone: if you could get rid of your sex drive without damaging your body or motivation in any way, would you? Even the best sex of my life doesn’t have me thinking back on it. What exactly do you mean by that? I'm a guy and don't really think back to any particular instance of sex, either.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/01/21 09:36 PM
1	What’s the most annoying relationship ritual to you? The issue is messaging on apps lets people be easily distracted and disengaged. It turns into drawing blood from stone to actually learn about someone because they make no effort to really connect. The vanishing acts, bad texting etiquette, and flakey attitudes are what make messaging so terrible. Yeah, this is all true a lot of the time, and it does frustrate me. I mean, I get it, people have stuff to do, and if they're texting with the phone (as opposed to being on the computer), it's tiring. …	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/01/21 08:35 PM
2	What’s the most annoying relationship ritual to you? Yeah. Same with "tough love".	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/01/21 08:21 PM
2	What’s the most annoying relationship ritual to you? Hugging or greeting are not rituals. They can be if you do it without actually feeling like you want to do it. I think that's what OP was talking about.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/01/21 08:19 PM
3	What’s the most annoying relationship ritual to you? texting being a shit format for flirting/connecting I'm honestly the total opposite, haha. Definitely prefer getting to know the person via text, but I understand that most people don't. But yeah, I just have more stuff to say than in person, and I feel more like myself then, too.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/01/21 08:14 PM
1	Perspective of a eastern european woman: ways western women make themselves weak and miserable That's crazy. Do people still actually utter that stuff?	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/01/21 02:19 AM
2	I’m not going to lie to incels You don't sound like an introvert at all, tbh.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/01/21 11:58 PM
1	I’m not going to lie to incels and also indian people are far more unattractive on average compared to white people this is a no brainer I honestly don't think this is true for women at all.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/01/21 11:46 PM
0	WTF are you doing approaching in nightclubs and Tinder anyway!? From what I understand, women don't feel their most flattering during a workout. I feel like the problem is more in people going there to actually work out rather than chat. Someone might be running tight on time, is timing their breaks between sets or exercises, or just wants to be left alone so they can focus while there. But I think after a workout it'd be perfectly acceptable.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/01/21 10:17 PM
1	Perspective of a eastern european woman: ways western women make themselves weak and miserable Yooo wtf?! Got any more?	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/01/21 09:24 PM
3	What’s the most annoying relationship ritual to you? I fully agree. I'm so tired of having the same initial conversation over and over again, and I honestly just don't bother with coming up with something witty anymore. If I see something cool in her bio, I guess I'll still try to twist it into something funny, but if I can't come up with something immediately, I'll just go with a generic opener. Fuck it. I feel like I often have to carry the conversation as it is (even when it seems they're interested), and I'm tired of that, too, so I decided to…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/01/21 08:47 PM
1	Society does not and will never care about incels and TRPers "opting-out" How did they blame the poor then?	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/01/21 12:40 AM
1	Society does not and will never care about incels and TRPers "opting-out" Dearth? You mean glut?	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/01/21 12:39 AM
2	Are guys really not attracted to women over 30? 35M here, and my preference for women's age is probably the 28-35 range. A bit older than me is also still cool. So yeah, definitely attracted to women over 30, in part also because I assume (and that has been my experience, too) they'll have a more mature and interesting personality.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/01/21 07:04 PM
3	Women put WAY more negative scrutiny on the penis than do men on the vagina I don't often see men complain about lack of orgasm. I don't share OP's vitriol in regards to this topic, but I think the reason you don't hear about this is because guys don't really blame the woman when that happens. I've had a lot of issues with this and it honestly never even occurred to me that it could be the woman's fault. I've never heard any other guy that mentioned he can't cum during sex blame the woman, either. Guys also wouldn't get the same kind of sympathy from other guys as women…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/01/21 04:48 PM
1	Is it fair to say most women wouldn't have swiped right on or hooked up with their husbands? Not true. If they end up in a relationship, they just don't call it casual sex, but if the thing didn't progress to that point, they would. It's just a retroactive rephrasing.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/12/20 10:07 PM
2	Is it fair to say most women wouldn't have swiped right on or hooked up with their husbands? spit start the pussy Beautiful.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/12/20 09:59 PM
1	Hypergamy is not to blame for any single problem in your lives - your infatuation with the internet is No, I know, I wasn't necessarily disagreeing with your point, it was more of a side remark.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/12/20 07:46 PM
2	Sex is a need, but not a right & never should be. How exactly is it not helping society when it allows a huge amount of people to enjoy sex more?	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/20 11:04 PM
1	Sex is a need, but not a right & never should be. Being fat is a choice. So depression, binge eating disorder, bulimia, and other mental disorders that might lead, albeit some indirectly, to weight gain or the inability to lose it are choices? Saying being fat is incredibly ignorant of the complexity of this issue. And that's coming from someone that's actually very lean, so I'm not even taking personal offense here.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/20 10:50 PM
0	Sex is a need, but not a right & never should be. Eh, I see your point, but do you really think most won't? Regardless of how much easier it is for women, this is still true for a great majority of men, too.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/20 10:04 PM
1	Sex is a need, but not a right & never should be. I would argue that this is demonstrably untrue since there were fewer sexless men in the past, so we've already experienced such a society and there was no detriment. But what laws were in place then that worked in the favor of "involuntarily sexless" people? It's not a right in the sense that you're entitled to it and override someone else's rights. But you do have a right to have sex and nobody can take that away from you. But yeah, exactly this. It's a negative right, which is cool, I think. …	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/20 09:40 PM
0	Sex is a need, but not a right & never should be. That's like saying encouraging an appropriate food intake as opposed to gorging on everything you see 24/7 makes food not a need.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/20 07:53 PM
1	Sex is a need, but not a right & never should be. I don’t know why sex is included at the bottom of the pyramid of needs on the same level as food and shelter, because there are plenty of people who don’t have sex and are still fulfilled Most likely, the key here is that you can only be really fulfilled without having sex if you were able to actually choose not having it. I guess I do kind of agree with you that maybe it shouldn't be at the very bottom of the pyramid of needs, though. It's certainly categorically different from food, drink, she…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/20 07:21 PM
1	Has being on PPD made you change your mind on anything related to gender dynamics or the opposite sex? Thanks, that was interesting to read!	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/20 03:29 AM
1	Has being on PPD made you change your mind on anything related to gender dynamics or the opposite sex? American dating seems very different to UK dating. Can you elaborate on this?	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/20 01:08 AM
1	Has being on PPD made you change your mind on anything related to gender dynamics or the opposite sex? I took it you were joking/trolling.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/20 12:47 AM
1	Has being on PPD made you change your mind on anything related to gender dynamics or the opposite sex? It made me learn all of these funny acronyms I've never heard anyone earnestly use before.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/20 12:34 AM
1	Has being on PPD made you change your mind on anything related to gender dynamics or the opposite sex? i have never realized how much they were slaves to their horniness As a guy that has only just stumbled upon and read a few threads on this subreddit, I honestly don't think the impression you get from here is representative of the male population in general. It conflicts very much with how guys I know view things, at least.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/20 12:31 AM
1	Has being on PPD made you change your mind on anything related to gender dynamics or the opposite sex? I love how good of an illustration of Poe's law the discussions branching from your post are.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/20 12:28 AM
1	Has being on PPD made you change your mind on anything related to gender dynamics or the opposite sex? People with a healthy sex life, it consumes 10% of their thoughts. People with an unhealthy sex life are thinking about it 90% of the time. I think this can be generalized to pretty much all strong needs or wants. E.g. if there's plenty of food available, you won't be preoccupied with it, save for an eating disorder or ED-adjacent mental disorder, but if there isn't, you won't be able to help yourself obsessions over it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/12/20 11:53 PM
1	Do women who don't get asked out exist? OK, for whatever reason, I assumed the discussion was only about being asked out in person, so I couldn't see how that could happen without being spoken to. But yeah, not sure why I assumed that, and I guess you can be asked out via text, too.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/12/20 11:48 PM
1	CMV: Despite what studies say, it’s women who overestimate their attractiveness, not men. Certainly, no study should just be dismissed without looking at it deeper than on the level of its abstract (especially the methodology and whether the conclusion follows from the results), but let's be real; these social science studies absolutely aren't what you could call rigorous and are in general fraught with methodological deficiencies that render the conclusions mostly unwarranted before further studies that correct for those deficiencies confirm them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/12/20 11:09 PM
1	CMV: Despite what studies say, it’s women who overestimate their attractiveness, not men. Some women are getting attention not because they are attractive but because of how bad the mating market has become and how thirsty and desperate they are. But then that would just mean that we men have adjusted our attraction standards to suit the mating market, though. When you have plenty of food, you'll be more picky about what you'll eat than if you can barely get any. Doesn't mean you're not actually eagerly awaiting and enjoying the otherwise less palatable food you get in the latter cas…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/12/20 10:55 PM
1	Do women who don't get asked out exist? and never be spoken to by a man I think she just used "let alone" incorrectly. She was spoken to, but not asked out.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/12/20 11:31 PM
2	Hypergamy is not to blame for any single problem in your lives - your infatuation with the internet is If men outnumber women 20 to 1 on OLD then women must outnumber men 20 to 1 not using OLD Just want to point out that your if doesn't imply your then aka your logic is incorrect here. Simple counter-example: suppose there are 100 women and 100 men. If there are 20 men on dating apps and only 1 woman, then there are 99 women and 80 men not on them. Clearly not a 20 to 1 ratio.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/12/20 07:17 PM
1	Is closure really what's optimal for most people? Wait, so how is that ghosting then?	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/12/20 03:59 AM
1	Romantic relationships are more about avoiding loneliness than sex. I think it was sarcasm.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/12/20 01:59 AM
2	A ban on dating apps would be a huge step of fixing todays inequality in dating. Some of us are very introverted, have crippling depression issues, etc. Not a red-piller, either. That being said, I do agree with you that they should only supplement offline dating.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/12/20 12:05 AM
1	If you care about low n count or no n count, what are you doing to attract a person like that? For what it's worth, I'm a guy and have never heard of any other guy faking stuff he mentioned.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/12/20 11:07 PM
1	Q4ALL: Why are men losing on so many fronts? If that's what you feel is a normal reaction from friends, what's the point of having them then?	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/04/18 06:56 PM