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It gets slightly easier after you turn 30, in my experience - at least partly because some (young) women have "fuck a guy in his thirties" on their bucket list.
/r/seduction19/03/24 09:03 AM
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Oh yeah, in my city some years ago there was a guy who used to like going for walks in the forest and he would send a brief, friendly smile at people he would pass - they sent the police on him and there was even an article in the local press about "creepy man in forest who SMILES AT PEOPLE" smh
/r/seduction19/03/24 08:54 AM
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I'm 37. I used to approach almost anyone, as long as they're good looking I'd go for it, but I haven't cold approached in a while, because I have two girlfriends and one FWB-type of thing going on now, so I don't really need to (at least that's my excuse lmao). Biggest age difference I have experience with: 14 years, but I don't limit myself much nowadays, a consenting adult is a consenting adult and there's no point in overthinking this. With that said, I'll admit I always felt some hesitation …
/r/seduction18/03/24 09:37 AM
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Sounds like you're well on your way to success and you already avoided the worst pitfalls (like reading theory and never applying it). I also do daygame only. Online dating is not as useful as it once was - it won't hurt to use it, but some people in the comments will oversell it, ignore them.
/r/seduction15/02/24 02:37 PM
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This is the correct answer, other commenters just missed the point. Just approach anyone you find attractive.
/r/seduction12/02/24 08:51 AM
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I never spent any money on learning this stuff. A friend recommended some reading for me years ago and the first thing he recommended I read is actually free, here. Apparently there are some legit coaches who can help you progress faster, but you can get out of the house and talk to people yourself for free, depending on where you're starting and what your issues are it just might take you longer to get good on your own, and on average it should take you 6 months to start getting results, so it'…
/r/seduction09/02/24 09:20 AM
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Saying that direct game includes lines like "do you come here often" is a weird assumption.
/r/seduction02/02/24 01:02 PM
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I don't even think the percentage of conversions would be higher online - maybe in the past that was true in a way, but the apps are less useful now than they were five years ago and personally I've had many women recently unmatch before I even send the first message, so cold approach has a better conversion rate (at least after you get good at it) and it's not even close.
/r/seduction02/02/24 07:44 AM
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I agree on the topic of lines, but I do direct game almost exclusively - so I'd rather talk about her than about the store we're in...
/r/seduction02/02/24 07:26 AM
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There's been some research that suggests that women are more picky on online dating apps than they are in real life encounters - you can look it up and make up your own mind. And from personal experience, it seems that you "score some points" with women right off the bat when you are confident enough to approach them and tell them in a polite way that you find them attractive. And yes, I've personally had a situation where I saw a woman on a dating app and did not have a match, then approached h…
/r/seduction02/02/24 07:18 AM
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I've been approaching since 2010, also with a gap, and I can tell you with certainty that, one, if in all that time you've gotten less good reactions than you have fingers on one hand, then you either never approached much at all or you're doing something VERY wrong and not learning from it, and two, if you have better results online than IRL (and I have no reason to doubt that), then your experience is different to that of about 90% of men.
/r/seduction01/02/24 11:39 AM
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It's an unpopular opinion because that's just not how it is for the vast majority of men. Online dating is easier in the sense that you don't have to go outside and put much effort in, you can just swipe for a bit while sitting on the toilet, but the success rate in much lower than cold approach. With cold approach I can approach just a couple girls to get a date for the evening, with online game that's impossible, as sometimes it can take hundreds of messages to get one promising lead. Location…
/r/seduction01/02/24 11:16 AM
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Nothing. I didn't. Online dating is barely worth trying though, so if that's all you're doing, then I see why you feel that way. For one, you're one of 50 (or more) dudes trying to get her attention at the same time, so even if she's interested, your message might just get lost in all that spam. Go talk to women in real life instead, approach them wherever you see them, then instead of being just another random dude messaging her online, you become the only guy who had the balls to chat her up I…
/r/seduction01/02/24 10:46 AM
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Yeah, this is overdone, like someone just read "The Game" and is trying to come up with stuff without trying it out first. Also, happy cake day!
/r/seduction31/01/24 08:16 AM
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The fuck. “my place” wording which has negative connotations How the fuck does it have "negative connotations"? What? Where do you live?! I've NEVER had a girl react badly to me asking her to come back to my place - worst I've gotten was "next time" (there was a next time and we did bang eventually). Try this in your dates and let me know how it goes So did you actually try this, or are you just a keyboard jockey trying too hard to imagine scenarios in your head and then asking us to try it for …
/r/seduction31/01/24 08:11 AM
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Cool post, I'm gonna pick on a few things though: I thought I was advanced at game but I am a beginner You thought you were advanced, but you never even experimented with this kind of game? What's "advanced" then? worked a lot better than what I usually do So what do you usually do and what are your results? Because, in my experience, most of those "routines" are only good if your goal is to chase girls away, or if you just want to collect numbers and not have it go anywhere further. People misu…
/r/seduction26/01/24 08:19 AM
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I've fucked people without ever kissing them, so no, you don't always necessarily have to kiss on the first date, but I get where you're coming from.
/r/seduction12/01/24 11:06 AM
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Not intimidated, but 1) I might have nothing in common with such a person, 2) I'm not interested in constantly hearing complaints that I don't earn enough money. I'm guessing a lot of the comments here are talking about this as if it's just a hypothetical scenario, but I'm a working class man who works in a warehouse and I've actually been on dates with women who were enterpreneurs or corporate managers, so I know how this looks like and I'm talking from experience. With those women we could nei…
/r/seduction27/12/23 12:21 PM
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What you did is called "oversharing" and is most definitely NOT what people mean when they talk about being genuine.
/r/seduction09/10/23 10:36 AM
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Not even early on, I just had an year long relationship fall apart, because I let the other person affect me emotionally (what can I say, I fell in love, but I don't think they did too). It sucks and women will complain that men don't talk about their emotions, but the moment we open up they either start treating us like shit or they disappear from our lives, they just no longer give a shit.
/r/seduction19/07/23 12:08 PM
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No. Rejection due to height is something that happens a lot online, but rarely IRL (as long as you're not acting weird around girls who are taller than you). But don't just trust me, go out and talk to women IRL to find out for yourself.
/r/seduction06/07/23 06:17 AM
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I'm not and I don't know what your comment has to do with anything (other than your insecurities, I presume).
/r/seduction05/07/23 11:16 AM
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It's true, women are more picky on online dating apps than when meeting someone in real life, there was even a study done on the matter that confirmed this. As to why that is, I'm not sure, but I'd assume that part of it is that online they have many more options, whereas IRL not every man has the balls to approach them, so the options are fewer and the men with the guts to walk up to them and chat them up get appreciated more than the hundreds of men who just typed out a message from the safety…
/r/seduction12/06/23 01:28 PM
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Sorry for the late response, I had to wait to be added as an approved user. I met this specific partner through political activism (this makes it easier to meet people, although I'm not in it for that reason), but normally I meet sex partners either through daygame or through Tinder. Before that I had a sex partner 14 years my junior and I met her through a website for swingers, but I'll let you know right now that those are mostly useless if you're a single guy - only worth registering on a web…
/r/seduction09/11/22 08:03 AM
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One of my current partners is 14 years younger than me - 22 years old. You're wrong in thinking you will never feel the energy of a woman that much younger. That will only be true if you give up, so lose that defeatist attitude and go for what you really want.
/r/seduction04/11/22 08:46 AM
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Yeah, I'm 36, got introduced to the game in early 2010. That would make me pretty oldschool, but I still consider myself a newbie, or maybe intermediate at best, because - to make a long story short - I never approached much in that initial period, married the first girl I picked up, and only started going out more and practicing seduction after I kicked her out in February 2019. Game never got me laid like a rockstar, as in, I never got to the point of fucking a different girl every week or any…
/r/seduction04/11/22 08:39 AM
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I feel for you. Knowing how most people are, there's probably nothing to worry about though. I was never threatened, but I once got a call from a very angry guy who told me "I'm her fiance, never contact her again". I was daygaming a lot at that time and had to ask him which girl he meant lmao. Of course the girl in question never mentioned a fiance or anything... Makes for a cool story now.
/r/seduction02/11/22 07:53 AM
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It's just in your head. It's not weird, you're just not used to it. I started practicing seduction years ago, but only really went at it hard and started going out almost every day when I was 33, so if you start now you're still ahead of me (and many others). Also, I do daygame exclusively - I don't drink alcohol, so I don't go to bars much, there's just no point in going somewhere JUST to practice pickup if you wouldn't go there otherwise.
/r/seduction26/10/22 07:55 AM
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Nah. Absolutely NOT my experience. Some women want to date for a bit before having sex with someone, sure, but I'm yet to meet a woman who's in it for a free meal - typically dates don't involve any meal at all, only a cup or coffee or a few drinks. And sometimes not even that, because a woman can decide that she wants to fuck a man in 30 seconds flat. And if they want something in exchange for pussy, usually it's dick.
/r/seduction14/10/22 11:53 AM
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Yes, in my experience it does get slightly easier when you turn 30. A big part of it is that, as I've noticed, many women in their 20s (or even younger) are not interested in dating men more or less their age for reasons that are unclear for me, and you only start getting taken into consideration by them as you get older. There are also some women who get turned on by a big age difference, and some women specifically want to hook up with someone in their 30s just to see what it's like, or like a…
/r/seduction14/10/22 10:52 AM
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This is a reddit sub, not a medical facility. Yes, this is my point exactly - and it's why you might want to stop misusing names of disorders, and stop defending misuse of the names of disorders. This isn't the place to use them at all. If you mean approach anxiety, say "approach anxiety". If you mean shyness, say "shyness".
/r/seduction13/10/22 09:00 AM
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Maybe just don't use names of disorders like social anxiety (social phobia) when what you seem to actually mean is "shyness".
/r/seduction12/10/22 06:58 AM
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What you're saying makes sense, but I don't think he said anywhere in this thread that he's in his 20's and that his sex life is at zero, Regardless of whether or not he did, I don't see how that supports the "social anxiety" diagnosis - correct me if I'm wrong, but "not putting yourself out there enough" is not the same as "social anxiety".
/r/seduction11/10/22 06:35 AM
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I don't have specific data, since, like I said, I stopped counting approaches quite early on in my journey, but it's probably something like one lay per ~100 approaches (which is better than it sounds, since I've read that some high level PUA's average at two or three lays per one hundred approaches, so I'm not that far behind xD ). Asking randoms to record you? Good luck with that. I used to record myself (audio only) with cheap earphones that also had a microphone - attached them to my smartph…
/r/seduction23/09/22 10:02 AM
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You're right. It depends on context and I suppose I should clarify that this would technically be a warm approach only if we're assuming that you're a regular at your gym and so is the girl, since then you've probably at least seen each other a bunch, but that's a lot of caveats to add.
/r/seduction23/09/22 09:54 AM
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Direct is good, but if you're saying you're "dry", that's not great, try to be playful. Give yourself time, for me it took probably around 200 approaches (not sure, I stopped counting pretty quickly) before I figured out the details and got laid off of this for the first time - and apparently that's pretty average, some guys learn quicker, others learn slower, the important part is that you get all of the mistakes out of the way quickly and actually LEARN from them instead of just repeating what…
/r/seduction22/09/22 02:04 PM
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To clarify, it's not about the setting, it's about whether or not there is a social tie between you and the person you're approaching. Cold approach is when you're meeting someone you have no social connection with - who is a complete stranger, with no social ties and no social trust. A "warm approach" is when there's a social tie, like when it's someone you've seen already in a work environment, or a classmate (that's why zenboy mentioned class, I assume) - or a girl at a gym you frequent.
/r/seduction22/09/22 12:49 PM
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Yes, we get a window of opportunity with girls, which will remain open for a certain time only before they lose interest, and it's better to assume that time is counted in hours rather than days. EDIT: actually, it's similar with men as well from what I hear.
/r/seduction16/09/22 09:24 AM
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Yes. In fact, some women prefer shorter guys. Online you can get rejected for your height alone, IRL this happens a lot less, so I'd say cold approach is your best bet. I'm 173 cm short, in multiple relationships and one of my current partners is 180 cm tall.
/r/seduction06/09/22 10:53 AM
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Yeah, when I first decided to take more action I went in with the idea that I would do at least one approach every day. The first approach of the day is pretty much a throwaway though, just a warmup - at least until you get comfortable enough with approaching that you don't need to do warmups. Consequently, it's not very useful to do just one approach. So I eventually switched that up to five approaches per daygame session.
/r/seduction02/09/22 01:48 PM
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Two weeks weeks ago I had sex with three different people in the span of a few days. Hi male 36 years old here.
/r/seduction01/09/22 12:52 PM
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A guy known as 60 Years Of Challenge (weird nickname, I know) had some good things to say in his book "Relationship Roulette", here's an excerpt: First of all you tough guys need to admit that you need female affection in your life. You can help fill this need by diversifying where you get your female affection from. One woman cannot provide all of the female affection you need. Get a second girlfriend, have a few female friends (...), each woman has their own special energy that can make a man …
/r/seduction23/08/22 01:37 PM
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First things first, whatever you do, ignore u/CocoBabeNYC - he's a loser who doesn't know shit and only spams hate on everyone else (can u/Elbynerual or someone else from moderation take a look at this guy? many of his comments are either just rude or are personal attacks on various users, which violates rule 4 of this subreddit). As for where I go approach: the streets, especially busy streets near malls. If you practice pickup IN malls, especially if you're doing a particularily bad job, secur…
/r/seduction04/08/22 06:39 AM
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BDSM - Bible Discussion/Study Meeting
/r/seduction04/08/22 06:30 AM
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Sure, if you want to frame it that way, why not. You can admit it right now. You are creepy. And there's nothing wrong with that. But I meant something more like: if you're making an effort to be more social, there are going to be awkward moments. And seduction requires risking creepy. You can't escape it, but you don't have to be scared of it, in fact, you should embrace it. If she likes you, you are sexy. If she doesn’t like you, then you are creepy. This can change day to day or even moment t…
/r/seduction03/08/22 11:31 AM
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As Paul Janka once wrote: You are never “bothering” a girl by hitting on her. Remember that it’s your duty as a man to engage the opposite sex and initiate contact. Don’t get into thinking you’re being intrusive, she will let you know. Also, saying anything does come with the slight risk of creepy. In fact, there is no way to avoid creepy. You want to embrace awkwardness and risk creepy.
/r/seduction03/08/22 07:10 AM
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Nah, you just keep spamming comments here and I happen to hate losers like you shitting on everyone else.
/r/seduction01/08/22 01:23 PM
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I used to do a bet on dates with girls I met when daygaming where we would both try to guess each other's age and whoever is more off with their guess buys the first round of drinks. I also used to do a bet that the girl won't be able to repeat everything I do at the table when using only our drinks and a coin. Each of you take a coin, you move around the coin and your cup, and after each move you wait for her to mirror your move. At one point you take a sip from your cup. Then, as your final mo…
/r/seduction01/08/22 12:20 PM
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u/CocoBabeNYC a month ago: "I hate losers like you shitting on everyone else. Just go away." Also u/CocoBabeNYC:
/r/seduction01/08/22 12:19 PM
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I pretty much only do daygame on the streets, in malls and on public transport. You can make cold approach work in bars and clubs, but - as you noticed yourself - it's a tougher environment, and if it's not a place you otherwise want to go to, then it doesn't make sense to go there just to pick up girls. However, most oldschool pick up methods will tell you to approach groups in a nightgame scenario... Let's not pretend like that's not the case - you're not supposed to look only for girls who ar…
/r/seduction01/08/22 07:42 AM
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Shaking hands is usually the right way to go, though. A guy called 60 Years Of Challenge even has a technique called "Milking The Introduction" that involves a handshake. He describes it like this: Your best shot is in the first minute. And your best opportunity to escalate quickly is the initial introduction. Think About It It’s a few seconds of deep seductive eye contact. You get physical contact, a handshake where you can hold onto her hand for longer than usual. Let her pull away first. And …
/r/seduction29/07/22 01:00 PM
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Incel detected.
/r/seduction29/07/22 10:49 AM
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Let me add that it's a very good book, but I think it's more for entertainment and maybe motivation than anything else, really - especially since the story was embellished a bit to make it more interesting to read AFAIK. If you want to learn pickup, I suggest starting elsewhere and reading this piece by Paul Janka, then going outside and practicing this stuff in real life. And if you still feel like you need to know anything more after that, then "The Game" should be the second thing you read; o…
/r/seduction29/07/22 07:09 AM
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My top three pieces of advice for pickup in general are: Always try to look your best (and take care of your hygiene!), so that even if you're just going to the store to pick something up and by chance you see someone attractive on the way there, you won't have excuses not to approach like "oh no, I'm in dirty, lousy clothes, I can't go talk to them right now". Get out of the house and talk to cute strangers. Watching YouTube videos on the topic of pickup can open your eyes to what's possible, b…
/r/seduction29/07/22 06:51 AM
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Yes, I used to do that sometimes. The idea was to go for a walk, but with the intention of picking up any attractive strangers I may come across during my walk. I'm a daygamer, so that means talking to strangers on the street. It worked well for me.
/r/seduction27/07/22 11:50 AM
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Ex: Gym body, cars, money That's a chode mindset if you think that's what matters. You don't need any of that, although for some women it might be helpful to look like you have money. Not a great post.
/r/seduction27/07/22 09:31 AM
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I’ve been here for almost 6 weeks now and I’ve had about 12 cold approaches out here There's your problem. Well, apart from the shitty lines you're using. Anyway, that's not even a single approach per day on average. You won't learn cold approach by doing an approach or two here and there, just like you won't build muscle by going to the gym once or twice a week and doing a single rep each time. You gotta approach more, try different things, experiment a bit, then after you're done analyse what …
/r/seduction27/07/22 06:37 AM
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And if there's a few rough ones in there, so what? Are you trying to shame him or are you trying to imply 30 good-looking sex partners in two years is so many that you can't believe it can be done? Either way not a good look. Approximately one new sex partner per month is not unusual - it's what's expected if you approach a lot. If you really were "super experienced" as you claimed in our previous exchange you'd surely know that. EDIT: Aww, he blocked me :( Now someone else will have to call him…
/r/seduction22/07/22 01:01 PM
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What's not to believe?
/r/seduction22/07/22 11:40 AM
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When I was starting out with cold approach I decided to approach girls just to ask them to rate my looks - I figured I'll get used to approaching strangers this way. The worst rating I got was a 5/10 paired with a comment that I look like an "average pedestrian". The best were a few 10/10's, although those I'm pretty sure were not honest and just given to get rid of me, like "here's your answer, now fuck off with your weird questions". Either way, the average score at the end was something betwe…
/r/seduction22/07/22 11:24 AM
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Can I say I love you during sex even if we don’t say that to each other ? Erm... I guess you can, but if you don't actually love him, then why? Unless you do love him, in which case fair play - weird moment tho, but don't let me stop you.
/r/seduction22/07/22 09:05 AM
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I see you're talking about acquaintances in a social (non-pickup) scenario, so how are you being "ignored/rejected"? Right now it just sounds like you're impatient and getting pissy whenever someone doesn't respond to you right away, and so in your frustration you ignore them afterwards to get back at them. In this case, this is a problem with you, not with them, and you need to chill. Feel free to add more context if you think this is an inaccurate assessment.
/r/seduction22/07/22 07:59 AM
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Firstly, it sounds like you think that I just straight up ask the girl for her number right after the open without talking about anything else at all, which I assure you, is not the case. Secondly, going in direct itself conveys value. I believe that just by being direct a man can demonstrate a lot of attractive qualities, such as boldness and confidence, and - thanks to that - earn a few points with a woman right on the open. Also, you have to tell her that you find her attractive at some point…
/r/seduction21/07/22 10:01 AM
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"If you do that too quick on a woman you don’t know", as if saying "I want to meet you" to a woman you DO know makes any sense. And yeah, if I'm unattractive to her, then she might interpret me as creepy, but if I am attractive to her the same things I say will be sexy. I hope you're not suggesting an alternative that is essentially boring a girl who isn't even attracted to me by beating around the bush for 45 minutes...?
/r/seduction21/07/22 09:08 AM
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David X is not Alan's "idol" and Alan wrote his stuff first - "Mode One" was released in 1998 I believe, whereas "Rules of David X" was released in 2009 AFAIK. Both books are worth reading though. David X definitely has some good advice.
/r/seduction21/07/22 09:04 AM
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I read that in many SEA countries (including the Philippines) there are more women then men, so there is less competition and so picking up women there is easier + if you're white you have the added advantage of being different than the locals and interesting because of that. I knew a guy who had a hard time approaching women in his home country, and I mean he was really struggling, pretty much a hard case, but he was learning pickup and when he went to Thailand it paid off: what wasn't working …
/r/seduction21/07/22 07:11 AM
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I read the book, I do direct game based on being humble and genuine that's inspired by other people's material though (mainly Paul Janka and Sixty Years Of Challenge), but I definitely tell the girls what I'm really thinking, which is what Mode One is basically about. It works for me. But we're different dudes with different personalities, and we probably live in different places, so where you are people can have a different mentality, so what works for me might not work for you. Try it out for …
/r/seduction21/07/22 07:03 AM
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I don't know how it works, but I have a friend who works in a small bar and he says he's getting hit on constantly - by gay guys mostly, but still.
/r/seduction21/07/22 06:24 AM
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>implying that telling a girl that I want to meet that I want to meet her is somehow not natural and not smooth
/r/seduction21/07/22 06:03 AM
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Yes.
/r/seduction21/07/22 06:00 AM
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I make most of my daygame approaches AFTER the girl already passed me. I don't know if that's the best way to go, but it's what I do and it worked for me already in the past. I walk past her, I turn around, run back to her, get in front of her with my hand extended in front of me to stop her (note: my hand is low, not at eye level) as I pivot to face her, and I tell her something like "excuse me, I know this isn't exactly typical, but I just passed you over there and I thought you look cute, so …
/r/seduction20/07/22 01:10 PM
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"Struggling with maintaining conversation" is NOT "a part of you", it's your sticking point. You'll work through it. You're only two months into this journey, for me it took six months of figuring out the details and tweaking my approach before I started getting some real results - and I was going out almost every day. Apparently that's pretty average, for some guys it takes even longer, for PUA legend Nick Krauser it took almost a full year of practice before he started getting laid off of this…
/r/seduction20/07/22 08:54 AM
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Yeah, and then you have guys who are like "How do you become a doctor? You can't, because you don't have the perfect bone structure, something something black pill". Although I've been in the community (not on this sub, just in the seduction community in general) for over 10 years and I think the people who wanted instant answers were always there, the problem is just more pronounced nowadays. Not really their fault, it's just where society is going (it's like that quote from the novel Flicker: …
/r/seduction19/07/22 01:58 PM
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A lot of girls find the age difference hot, so I find that after you turn 30 getting girls in their 20s just gets easier - and you certainly don't have to do anything other than what you'd do when gaming someone about your age. Maybe except for showing them funny memes. Also, you don't have to be the top option, just "good enough" will do. It turns out that sometimes a girl can crave a dad bod.
/r/seduction19/07/22 07:42 AM
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Why on Earth would anyone want to live like you then? XD
/r/seduction19/07/22 06:45 AM
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XD
/r/seduction19/07/22 06:15 AM
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Stay mad.
/r/seduction18/07/22 12:58 PM
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It's not cheating if everyone involved knows what's happening and consents to the situation. As for why, obviously if you're polyamorous you want to have multiple partners, but apart from that here's one specific example: for a couple of years I used to have a FWB who was very introverted, we never texted much and sometimes she'd contact me only once a month or even once every few months just to bang, if I didn't see other women as well at that time then that would mean having to endure dry spel…
/r/seduction18/07/22 08:58 AM
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But my text game is so awful that people lose interest in me in just a few minutes or days. In my experience that's what usually happens with texting - when I still texted with the girls whose number I got, some girls wouldn't reply at all, many others would text with me for a while and then stop responding for seemingly no reason, and only a few ended up going out with me. So I switched to calling instead, which is something my mom suggested actually (lol), and the results are much better - mos…
/r/seduction18/07/22 07:23 AM
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What you were doing made sense. Don't listen to the angry incel. Thankfully, his unhelpful comments get deleted by mods anyway, lmao.
/r/seduction18/07/22 06:11 AM
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Same and it's true, really bad reactions are rare, and I just find them funny anyway. Great username BTW.
/r/seduction15/07/22 12:40 PM
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Physical game. Touch the woman and try to progress from casual touch to something more seductive or romantic - this is called physical escalation. Even just standing close to the girl can make a difference. Also, you can make conversations sexual. This works great, so if you have a dirty (sexy) mind just don't stop yourself from saying the things you are thinking. This is called verbal escalation. Escalation is one of the most basic elements of game, you're not getting far (or anywhere, really) …
/r/seduction15/07/22 09:33 AM
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Was just expressing myself Yeah, specifically expressing anger and frustration. I'm not hating on you, I'm just pointing out that if this is your way of thinking: they are bitches in a way cause I don’t even know em then your way of thinking needs to change.
/r/seduction15/07/22 06:24 AM
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Cold approaching was never common. It was, however, "the done thing" to at least some extent a few decades ago, from what I know. But nowadays people normally meet each other through online dating. With that said, I don't see why women wouldn't be "still receptive to guys approaching them while grocery shopping". People are still people and evolution doesn't work that fast, you know? :) In fact, I think the online dating market is oversaturated, and the time for men to return to the art of cold …
/r/seduction14/07/22 12:24 PM
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First of all, congratulations on actually getting out of the house and talking to women. This alone already puts you above probably 90% of the people who comment on here in general. However, I have to say that you sound angry. If you do actually harbour actual aggression or resentment toward women, this will come across in your approaches and women might freak and run. If you're actually angry, if you have major issues, or if you harbour a grudge against women because they've never wanted you, y…
/r/seduction14/07/22 10:06 AM
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I don't think anyone can do that, unless some decently experienced daygamer has a lucky day, because even Paul Janka said he averages at 8 numbers out of 10 approaches.
/r/seduction14/07/22 09:19 AM
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Let me tell you, OPs comment history is short, but quite something.
/r/seduction14/07/22 09:16 AM
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Agreed, regret feels worse than rejection. Rejection can be painful too, but I find that the pain of regret stays with you much longer. Feel the nerves and do what you really want to do anyways.
/r/seduction14/07/22 09:10 AM
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Yes, and?
/r/seduction14/07/22 09:07 AM
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No. It depends on what exactly we are talking about, but the general answer is no, especially if you mean it like "do you look for signs of interest before you approach a cute stranger?". If a random girl looks at me and smiles, that's cool I guess, but it's not like I'm gonna avoid girls unless they smile at me. I learned from experience that some girls will push back a lot initially and only start acting interested when we're already on a date. If you mean something like "do you look for signs…
/r/seduction14/07/22 08:07 AM
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I'd have to think for a long time to get "The Ten Commandments Of Seduction", and I don't really have that time, but I can tell you what would be the first one right away: Always try to look your best (AND TAKE CARE OF YOUR HYGIENE!).
/r/seduction11/07/22 06:40 AM
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Are you replying to the question from the title, or the question from the body of the post, or both, or...?
/r/seduction08/07/22 07:24 AM
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Yeah, if you approach a lot of girls, eventually you will end up approaching the same girl twice. It happens. BTW, fuck all the haters who don't talk to women often enough to have this happen to them. If they prefer to spend their time sitting at their computer and hating on people instead of going out and talking to cute strangers, that tells you all you need to know about them.
/r/seduction05/07/22 11:17 AM
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This is called approach anxiety. The answer is to feel what you are feeling and do it anyway. And then the more you do it the more natural it becomes.
/r/seduction05/07/22 10:47 AM
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Yeah, that text wasn't great - would work only if you made it clear it's tongue-in-cheek. Not sure how you'd do that via text though. Also, making out isn't a big deal to a lot of girls, it's just something fun to do, so when you seemingly did make a big deal out of it with that text it might have seemed like an overreaction. I would still try to get a date with her once more, and if she's not down, just move on, go approach other girls.
/r/seduction05/07/22 07:48 AM
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Assume attraction. If the girl isn't interested, she'll either leave or let you know. Just make sure you're not cornering anyone or blocking their path, so they are indeed free to leave if they wish to do so. Daygame interactions can be very short. You don't have to drag them out, so if you don't know what to say next, just go for the close. Ask the girl out. Make this a habit. This is one of the most important things in game, the ABC: Always Be Closing. And don't back off too quickly at that - …
/r/seduction04/07/22 01:30 PM
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should I be straightforward and just open with telling a girl that she’s cute? Yes. This is called "direct game" and is the only style of game I ever do nowadays. My standard opener is something along the lines of "Excuse me, I thought you looked cute and I want to get to know you". I feel like I've been spamming this link in various comments on this here sub, but I honestly can't recommend this material enough - it's what I started with, it's short and pretty decent, so I advise that you read i…
/r/seduction30/06/22 08:58 AM
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Online dating seems dead for me post pandemic. Is it like this for others as well? Yes. Dating apps were a pretty good way to find a sex partner even just a year ago, but now they've become useless. I uninstalled Tinder, thankfully I don't have to rely on online game.
/r/seduction30/06/22 08:23 AM
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Actually laughing out loud at you just saying "wrong" with no counterarguement to something that I know is true, because I lived it. Also, you're wrong on all three counts, for the first two I already explained why in my original comment. For the third one I don't even know what to say except to giggle at how you seem to look for negatives everywhere :D There's no malware, but you won't check and won't know I suppose.
/r/seduction30/06/22 07:52 AM
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You don't need money to get girls. You can be broke and still get laid. In the case of some girls you just have to seem like you have money. The assumption that women only like "white boys" seems incorrect to me too. Where I live incels complain non-stop that girls only want to fuck black guys and Arabs - while it might be true that such guys are especially attractive to girls, complaints like this assume the over-importance of race, just as you are doing. Read this thing, apply it, enjoy.
/r/seduction30/06/22 07:18 AM
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My brother in pick-up, we are talking about something that was shared in a book that was featured on The New York Times Bestseller List. It's not exactly a deeply hidden secret. I'm just curious which particular thing from that book is one of the best things you've learned, as you called it. If you don't wanna say, that's cool too, but then I don't know why you brought it up at all if you don't wanna talk about it.
/r/seduction30/06/22 06:36 AM
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One of the best things I ever learned is in that book and nobody ever talks about it in this sub for some reason Wanna mention what that is or nah?
/r/seduction29/06/22 10:45 AM
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While "racking up the rejections" make sure you learn something from them. Don't just repeat the same mistakes over and over. Although sometimes there isn't anything to learn, really. Sometimes you're just not her type, and there isn't much you can do about that.
/r/seduction29/06/22 10:41 AM
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What exactly do you want to know? The "About Community" section explains what this sub is about: "Help with dating, with a focus on how to get something started up, whether the goal is casual sex or a relationship" - so essentially this sub is about how to approach and talk to girls. In other words, pick-up.
/r/seduction28/06/22 10:13 AM
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I though the question was "who is a real coach and not just a marketer out to get your money", and not "who is not tall and has approval of u/Thin_Protection5616".
/r/seduction28/06/22 08:12 AM
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I personally never spent any money on coaching or books, but apparently a good coach can shorten your learning curve, so it's not a bad idea if you have the money. I know James Tusk is legit, I remember reading years ago that Paul Janka is one of the best teachers (mind you that was just an opinion from a forum, I'm not even sure if he's still active), and I heard there are some legit guys in South Africa... On the other hand, I've heard bad things about guys from RSD, that they just tell you to…
/r/seduction28/06/22 07:02 AM
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>post gets removed for misogyny and racism "DoCtrIne oF pC ViRtue siGNAlLIng" "ComMIttEd TO EnSURIng mEn'S VIRgINIty lastS AS loNg AS PosSIbLE" Right, because people can't get laid unless they are being racist and in general the worst pieces of shit to ever exist. Sheesh.
/r/seduction24/06/22 07:01 AM
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Yeah, the reason is he doesn't have the post. That's why he's asking about it. "I saved to read it later and now is gone." Jesus Christ, some of you people. EDIT: Hahaha, he downvoted me and deleted his comment, what a clown!
/r/seduction24/06/22 06:56 AM
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Overthrow the monarchy I'm down. Not sure what it has to do with the rest of your post, but yeah. Anti-monarchist Action, let's gooo!
/r/seduction24/06/22 06:54 AM
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I hate losers like you shitting on everyone else Ironic.
/r/seduction23/06/22 11:37 AM
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Up to you. You're a somewhat experienced daygamer, so I'm assuming you don't have to pursue these "maybe" girls just for the sake of getting experience. "Maybe" girls are difficult and can be a problem even after years of practice. Your time may be better spent elsewhere, but ultimately it's your call.
/r/seduction23/06/22 11:31 AM
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A guy who just did his first approach is telling a person with a few hundred cold approaches under his belt about what cold approach comes down to. OK.
/r/seduction23/06/22 08:46 AM
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That's not really a cold approach. Cold approach is when you're meeting someone you have no social connection with - who is a complete stranger, with no social ties and no social trust. In this case this was someone who you've seen already in a work environment - that's your social tie. What you did is a different kind of approach that - and this is important - requires a different course of action than a cold approach and is called a "warm approach". ​ is that good enough of an approach No. You…
/r/seduction23/06/22 07:37 AM
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I'm shorter than you, probably average in many ways, and I have no problem with getting women. I mean, I'm not getting laid like a rockstar, but I also haven't really been lonely for even a day in the past couple of years. The problem is not that you are average, the problem is that you are dissatisfied with yourself and that you're giving up. And it doesn't even sound like there's anything wrong with you, outside of the way you're thinking, so you're beating yourself up for no good reason. I lo…
/r/seduction22/06/22 12:25 PM
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I'm a daygamer, I don't really do nightgame, so I'm not sure if this'll work in a nightgame scenario, but I pretty much exclusively do direct game. My go to opener is "excuse me, you look cute, I want to meet you". Unless I have something specific to say, I go with that, and it works.
/r/seduction22/06/22 12:05 PM
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dunning Krueger effect Peak Reddit moment. I especially appreciate the irony of you mentioning the Dunning–Kruger effect in a post where you complain about randoms, while showing you have barely any more understanding of game than them. See, I'm not talking about what I think should or shouldn't be the case, or what I want to be the case, or about what I think is "fair", but what I found through experience in the field to actually be the case. Meanwhile, I'm sorry to say this, but you seem to be…
/r/seduction22/06/22 10:08 AM
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Keep us updated, please. And good luck, have fun. BTW, you're not starting that late. Nick Krauser (dating book author and coach) started daygaming at 34, after a divorce. I personally started at 23, but then settled for the first girl I picked up, was with her for 9 years, married and divorced her in that time, and then started regularly going out and picking up girls only after all that. So you could say I actually astarted at 32. So you're actually ahead of the pack, after all.
/r/seduction22/06/22 08:43 AM
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XD
/r/seduction22/06/22 08:18 AM
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Okay, there's a few things to address in your post here. Firstly, most people who come here and comment on posts are, unfortunately, weird randoms who somehow found this place through r/all or something. Are they 15 years old? Probably not, at least not usually, they just never cold approached a woman in their lives and have no idea what they are talking about. At best they'll just repeat some socially acceptable cliches. Secondly, however - and you won't like this - you mention the following se…
/r/seduction22/06/22 07:34 AM
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I know how it sounds, but yeah, there's a nice playground in a park near the centre of the city I live in and sometimes I meet women there, or bring them there after drinks. The only bad responses as of yet come from people who I tell about it lmao
/r/seduction21/06/22 11:49 AM
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If you get any good tips, send them my way too. When a girl keeps looking for my attention non-stop and messages me all the time, it just pushes me away and I just stop responding to her. I need my alone time, but I wish I could find a better way of dealing with situations like these - unfortunately just telling them that I'm an introvert doesn't work.
/r/seduction21/06/22 10:19 AM
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Could be. Try it out and let us know.
/r/seduction21/06/22 10:01 AM
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Decent post. I can see you're the real deal, because I also do daygame and I have a lot of similar insights to yours. Stick around the subreddit and get involved in discussions, we need people like you in here.
/r/seduction21/06/22 09:31 AM
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Not OP, but I'm also a daygamer and in my experience busy streets near malls are the best, but just streets in general work.
/r/seduction21/06/22 09:27 AM
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as someone who dates frequently and has good success with cold approach That's the exact kind of person this subreddit has too few of. Most of the guys here don't even practice cold approach and generally don't even know what they're saying. I don't even know you, but I already miss you - oh well, goodbye.
/r/seduction21/06/22 08:59 AM
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Don't overthink it. Be honest. You can add a joke in though, for example, if I get asked if I smoke, I say "only churches" (it's funny because I'm a metalhead, and in my native language you use the same word for "to smoke" and "to burn").
/r/seduction21/06/22 08:49 AM
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I haven't read it myself yet, but "Nine Ball" by Jeff Allen is kinda like "The Game" apparently, so maybe that.
/r/seduction21/06/22 08:37 AM
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I feel like information overload has stripped me of my creativity That might be it I guess. Or you're just out of practice. Fucked if I know.
/r/seduction21/06/22 08:30 AM
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I'm a cis guy, but I'd wager tips that work for men who want to seduce women will also work for women who want to seduce women. I always say that different things will work for different guys, because we're different people with different personalities, so you have to do a little bit of trial and error and figure out the details for yourself at first, but that's it... I guess I should just change "guys" to something gender neutral now, because the rest of my message still holds. I've read that l…
/r/seduction21/06/22 07:55 AM
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Most numbers you get in day game are fake just to get rid of you. Not in my experience. I got a fake number maybe once (or twice, if we count the number I got where one digit was missing) and I've done hundreds of daygame approaches. The harsh truth here is maybe you're doing something very wrong if girls feel like they have to give you a fake number to get rid of you.
/r/seduction21/06/22 07:48 AM
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A movie date is a bad idea. You can go to the movies with a friend, but a date? The setting won't allow you to actually talk and get to know each other. Even just going for a walk is better, but the top two date ideas that I found work the best (and consistently) are: Drinks at a classy bar that has dimmed lighting and a secluded corner to sit in for some privacy and intimacy Going to a playground after dark, when there shouldn't be any children there anymore, and just playing - it's especially …
/r/seduction21/06/22 07:14 AM
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Oh, this guy again.
/r/seduction20/06/22 10:43 AM
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I was wondering If these are signs she’s interested. LMAO. Yes. Also how much does eye contact really matter in seduction? It's one of the most important elements of seduction, and intense eye contact is one of the most powerful tools at your disposal.
/r/seduction20/06/22 10:18 AM
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I was recently told I've had a glow up in the last ~10 years. I lost some weight, got in the best shape if my life, shaved my head as soon as I noticed my hair is starting to thin... Thing is, life in general became a bit easier after I turned 30, not just getting girls, and also I gained some weight back after the pandemic started and it doesn't affect my results with women much, so I don't think that's what made my results change... Also worth noting is that I started approaching cute stranger…
/r/seduction20/06/22 09:29 AM
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This girl going to be married soon, but on "date" with me, help me understand It's pretty normal from what I've seen for people to want to have sex with someone else than their long-term partner one last time before they get married. It doesn't sound like anything happened in your situation that would suggest that this is the case here. It sounds like you just hung out with a friend. Also, you don't sound like the right person to come to in case she would want to have casual sex with someone, si…
/r/seduction20/06/22 08:40 AM
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Knowing how Tinder looked like for my female friend who is 30-ish, overweight and who suffered three strokes (and is not fully abled because of that) - you'll have plenty to choose from. Unless you're ridiculously picky, that is. Tinder is a different experience for women than it is for men from what I've seen, you probably have nothing to worry about.
/r/seduction20/06/22 07:26 AM
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For a beginner: this one. Also, the "Complete Game System" (or whatever it was called - he sold it under a few different names AFAIK) by 60 Years Of Challenge. There are other good ones out there, and some bad ones that you still can get some value out of too, but these two made the most difference for me I feel.
/r/seduction15/06/22 12:18 PM
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Not a bad idea. Not sure which part you are seeing a potential problem with. I'm guessing you're only worried because you're emotionally invested in this girl and you're worried you might lose her - but that's part of the game too, you have to risk losing her or you won't have what you want.
/r/seduction15/06/22 12:15 PM
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This post is like an example of what NOT to do (and how not to use exclamation marks).
/r/seduction15/06/22 11:31 AM
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Why does food matter so much to people when they're hungry?
/r/seduction15/06/22 10:40 AM
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No need to be sorry, at least I have a story to tell :D I would not ask someone directly to my place, you at-least need to kiss before asking that. Well, I would and I have, multiple times, and with success. You don't NEED to kiss someone at all to have sex with them.
/r/seduction15/06/22 10:35 AM
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You can always go like "Next!" and walk away from a negative situation or if you feel like you're up against a brick wall, especially if you're unpracticed. I once told a girl to fuck off when we she came over to my place and was being difficult (to put it mildly, she bit my finger so hard that I started bleeding, but that's a story for another time). Usually there's no point in being rude though (unless she turns feral and bites your finger so hard that you start bleeding, that is), I once ende…
/r/seduction15/06/22 09:00 AM
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Are you bisexual? If not, what situation are you referring to when you're talking about rejection from guys? Something is telling me you're comparing things that aren't exactly comparable, but I'd like you to clarify just to be sure.
/r/seduction15/06/22 08:30 AM
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Yet you've heard that you should just rely on choosing signals/IOIs. Whoever told you that just... Gave you bad advice. Simply. Sure, if you see a girl sending you a smile, go talk to her - but don't ONLY talk to girls who smile at you. First of all, because as a beginner you want to have as many opportunities as possible and approach as much as you realistically can, so that you can get all of the mistakes out of the way as soon as possible, learn from them, and get some real life experience wi…
/r/seduction15/06/22 07:48 AM
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I don't think I know the video you are talking about, but it made me think of this one. I rewatched it now, years after I first saw it, and the fucking thing almost made me cry.
/r/seduction13/06/22 11:13 AM
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Show her this meme. That's what I once did and I'm not even joking. EDIT: To clarify, the user who said to hook up first is correct, and I showed this meme to a girl I was already hooking up with.
/r/seduction13/06/22 11:00 AM
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This is a sub where people ask for help with dating, your post would fit better on r/AskReddit perhaps.
/r/seduction13/06/22 09:38 AM
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In my experience that's what usually happens with texting - when I still texted with the girls whose number I got, some girls wouldn't reply at all, many others would text with me for a while and then stop responding for seemingly no reason, and only a few ended up going out with me. So I switched to calling instead, which is something my mom suggested actually (lol), and the results are much better - most girls want to go out with me and the flake rate is something like 10% to be honest. Not su…
/r/seduction13/06/22 09:11 AM
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I'm 173 cm tall (which is about 5,8 burgers per bald eagle), in an open relationship, had a few threesomes and foursomes involving two couples - so yes, it is possible. Tall guys get more attention, and some women will reject you for your height (which happens a lot online, but rarely IRL), but that's about it. Nothing is stopping you from having fun with women if you put yourself out there, you just might have to put more effort in than a taller dude. One girl I banged, who was 10 cm taller tha…
/r/seduction13/06/22 07:00 AM
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/s, I assume.
/r/seduction13/06/22 06:46 AM
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Your plan is to go on a Pride Parade... to pick up chicks? 🤨 If you want to go just to talk to people and get out of your comfort zone, maybe get a hug from a stranger or something, then sure, I guess. But other than that this seems like a bad idea from a pickup perspective (you are going to a place where many girls will be lesbians, so it's not a very efficient use of your time) and an even worse one if you're actually an ally. Feel free to prove me wrong. As for a game plan, based on the way y…
/r/seduction10/06/22 01:05 PM
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Is this a good mindset to have No. My dude, you're young, you're not supposed to settle yet, and most definitely you shouldn't be looking for "the one" (if something like that exists at all). Have fun with different people, try different things, figure out what you like and what you actually don't...
/r/seduction10/06/22 08:46 AM
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Yes.
/r/seduction10/06/22 06:18 AM
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Yeah, but you and I, none of us know, if I don't get second dates, because I don't kiss on first one or for other reasons. True, we honestly don't know if it's this particular reason, but we do know that the "first date" part of your method isn't working. I'd advise analysing it and applying some trial and error until you figure it out. And to be honest, the bit with the mystery and not kissing sounds to me like you've misunderstood something or took it out of context and misapplied. I mean, whe…
/r/seduction09/06/22 01:12 PM
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Whatever. What happened, happened. Learn from this and don't report people so fast in the future maybe lmao
/r/seduction09/06/22 12:19 PM
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Straight guy here, but I have one thing - that I read in a field report years ago and applied myself once with success - that I think might be useful regardless of the gender of your sex partner. It's acting like the blowjob isn't doing much for you and saying after a while that "I don't think I will come like this". If your partner wants you to come, this should lead to fucking, which I assume is your end goal here.
/r/seduction09/06/22 12:16 PM
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First you tell him he's assuming too much when he said you don't approach, and now you pretty much confirm he was right and that you don't. Amazing.
/r/seduction09/06/22 09:34 AM
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I don't know if its a good idea or not. Watchu mean - you don't know? Well, is it working?! No? Well, there you have it. Personally, I'm at the point where if I don't at least kiss on the first date, I consider the date a failure. Not letting the girl feel that she "has you" is a good idea, but has nothing to do with kissing on the first date. Kissing isn't even a big deal for most girls. I can still get laid once in 2 months or so That's not even bad TBH. I remember Jeffy from RSD once said he …
/r/seduction09/06/22 09:06 AM
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Then don't.
/r/seduction09/06/22 07:59 AM
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Holy shit, what :D Well, he was right, you barely started and already want to give up. One approach. So you started, that's good, don't give up after one. Also, regarding online dating: sometimes you have to send literally hundreds of messages before you find one girl who is interested. Quitting after just ten is ridiculous. Go out there, talk to women, try to figure out what works and what doesn't and get back here after you get your approach attempts well into triple digits. Good luck, have fu…
/r/seduction09/06/22 07:55 AM
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"Feel whatever you are feeling and do it anyway".
/r/seduction09/06/22 07:31 AM
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When I said "if this was the case only for guys from the US", the emphasis was on "from the US", not "guys". Also, regarding the second paragraph, the only thing I can say is: XD
/r/seduction09/06/22 07:05 AM
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What book? Did you mean to reply to someone else?
/r/seduction09/06/22 06:51 AM
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I can see how indirect makes sense in certain contexts, but if you're just approaching women off the street... At that point it's such a breach of social expectations you might as well be up front with it, no? Exactly. See, you got it. Go out there, practice more and you'll start figuring out the details in no time.
/r/seduction09/06/22 06:39 AM
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That analysis would actually make sense if this was the case only for guys from the US, but it isn't. Besides, stories I read about the US nowadays make me think that, despite being the imperial core, it's more like a third world country for most of it's citizens. Just slightly richer. A horrible place to live unless you're a rich entrepreneur.
/r/seduction08/06/22 01:45 PM
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Yup. I've probably been rejected a couple hundred times before I started getting laid off of cold approach. On the other hand, you have guys who just give up while they're still teenagers just because no girl magically appeared in their lap on their own. That's not how these things work, but you can't convince them if they have a defeatist mindset.
/r/seduction08/06/22 12:28 PM
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Cold approach feels nice actually, but, first of all, when you're just starting out you have to go through a painful period of trial and error, unless you're the rare kind of guy who just "gets it" on his first time out. Secondly, in my experience most indirect openers simply just have the effect on women that you just experienced and described. I do direct game almost exclusively - no use learning "routines" that are only useful if your goal is to scare girls away quicker. Just stop her, say "h…
/r/seduction08/06/22 12:18 PM
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Smoking gives you additional ways to socialize This is it, right here. Smoking does not "boost attractiveness", but, as the Respectable User above said, it gives you additional ways to socialise, plus I once read some guy's post that he smokes black cigarrettes, which is visually striking and if a girl is interested in him, it gives her something easy to use to strike up a conversation. Kinda like peacocking. EDIT: Let me add that I personally don't smoke, I don't think it's necessary (or health…
/r/seduction08/06/22 10:28 AM
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Yeah, but also there's approximately three times more men than women on Tinder. A lot of women simply don't use Tinder - but they still go grocery shopping or to the mall sometimes, and this is why what he said holds up.
/r/seduction07/06/22 01:19 PM
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Fuck Biden, fuck Biden dick riders, and fuck police dick riders.
/r/seduction07/06/22 12:44 PM
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Well, oral sex is still sex, if that's what you're asking, although I know people have different definitions of sex. According to some of the definitions I've read I didn't actually have sex when I had a foursome though.
/r/seduction07/06/22 08:22 AM
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The point is that you shouldn't put people in an awkward position where they work in the first place. I won't say to never do it, depends on context, and there is a right way to do it, sure, I'm just saying in general. Especially if you're just learning how to pick girls up, talking to random girls on the street or in a mall would be a better idea.
/r/seduction07/06/22 07:54 AM
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ACAB. I used to go to the gym with a guy who's a cop. After seeing how cops treated peaceful protestors here in my EU state, I don't want to talk to him anymore. He might have not done anything personally, but he's still voluntarily part of an organisation that beats up women and he makes up stupid excuses for everything they do. I can't look him in the eye without getting angry anymore, so I don't, that friendship is essentially over. And in the US it's even worse, since you don't stop at beati…
/r/seduction07/06/22 07:32 AM
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First reaction: lmao. Serious response: I don't. Go outside, talk to women in real life.
/r/seduction07/06/22 07:15 AM
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Not rude (although it depends how you go about it), just generally not something I'd advise - instead go talk to girls who aren't stuck at work and forced to be nice to you because you're a customer.
/r/seduction07/06/22 07:13 AM
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It really depends and we don't have enough context to say. Swinger couples sometimes have a rule that they can fuck other people, but not kiss other people. It's seen as weird even among swingers, but couples with a rule like that exist nonetheless. Some girls who are looking for one night stands will also not necessarily want to kiss in that context. I've also once read a field report where the dude wrote that a girl he met at a club and took home didn't wanna kiss him, but was okay with having…
/r/seduction06/06/22 01:03 PM
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So... you "headed to a nearby mall on Saturday planning to approach as many chicks as you could", but the first thing you do when you get there is you go and get yourself food? Sounds like you started trying to avoid talking to girls as soon as you got there. Maybe in the future get food only AFTER you do a set number of approaches, as a treat for yourself for doing good. Good thing you did end up doing something, and I definitely know how you were feeling, I also had days when I would just walk…
/r/seduction06/06/22 09:54 AM
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It's just part of the game. Something that happens. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, and if you happen to lose, you move on and try again elsewhere. I also find rejection funny, but I also know it can be painful to get rejected a lot - still better than the pain of regret you can feel for a long time afterwards if you don't do anything.
/r/seduction06/06/22 08:19 AM
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Found the guy who doesn't even approach.
/r/seduction06/06/22 08:05 AM
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What you call "hit and runs" (and what I like calling "driveby compliments") are a great idea.
/r/seduction03/06/22 01:35 PM
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Here's some reading on the subject. Personally I have an approach based on this and I apply it somewhere else than NYC - it works, I'm assuming it'll work even better in NYC. Might need some tweaking to fit the times and your personality though.
/r/seduction03/06/22 08:23 AM
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Personally I never spent a dime on dating coaches, books or anything - didn't really feel I need to, especially since some decent books (like "Getting Laid in NYC" by Paul Janka) on the topic of seduction are available online for free. But I know some guys who were in contact with certain coaches, so I know there are legit ones out there. Apparently using the services of such a coach can shave off some time from your learning curve, so it's just a matter of whether you have the cash to spare or …
/r/seduction03/06/22 07:59 AM
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Weird attitude. Yes, it's our duty as men to initiate a conversation, but I fail to see how that means you can't be yourself, or that you have to treat women in a demeaning way. For one, if approaching strangers is not something you're used to doing, trying it out doesn't mean you stop being yourself, exactly in the same way as going to the gym when you're not comfortable with that wouldn't make you "not yourself anymore". I don't feel like commenting on the underlying misogyny though.
/r/seduction30/05/22 01:28 PM
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Looks like you self diagnosed already. it takes too long for me to close Escalate more rapidly then.
/r/seduction30/05/22 12:00 PM
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Most of the time I just open with something like „Hi, you are looking cute“ etc. Decent enough opener. I do direct game almost exclusively myself. Judging from that brief description, your approach is alright, just needs some "spice": cold reading, teasing, some sexual innuendo thrown in there maybe... And, most importantly, try making the approaches fun for yourself. Since you're getting laid off of this, you're not doing that bad, it's just that your "approach to lay ratio" needs improvement. …
/r/seduction30/05/22 11:22 AM
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Yo, he didn't write 100 (one hundred), he wrote he approached 1000 (one thousand). In 8 months that's a lot. But 3 lays out of those 1000 approaches? Not great. I agree it's hard to give any advice if we know nothing about his style of approach etc. That's the thing.
/r/seduction30/05/22 10:39 AM
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Thanks for the kind words! I've been in the seduction community since 2010, this is my alt account for commenting stupid/redundant shit while I'm bored at work, you can AMA and I may or may not get back to you lmao If you're actually going out and approaching cute strangers, then you're already on the right track, and ahead of all of the guys who are just keyboard jockeys.
/r/seduction30/05/22 10:23 AM
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I never just ask for a number straight away - I'm not collecting numbers for a phone book, I don't care about her number, I care about the girl. Interactions can be short if the girl's in a hurry, like if you approached her on the street and her tram is coming, but I think the point is to let her know you're interested and check if she's interested, not just to grab contact details (that might end up being fake). Also, I don't limit myself to only girls that show interest and I don't suggest you…
/r/seduction30/05/22 09:29 AM
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Did you sober up in one hour? LOL.
/r/seduction27/05/22 10:49 AM
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