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This is the cheat sheet. I am quite an unattractive man and I did okay on Tinder. When people say HOW??????? My answer is simple: my best friend is a fairly famous photographer.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 07:22 PM
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Tinder photos are all about what how you sell yourself as a product. Looks don't matter as much as "the image of looks". That probably doesn't even make sense. What I'm trying to say is that with the right style of photos, you can make yourself a much more appealing option. You just have to learn to game the game.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 07:17 PM
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Not at all, actually. It's more about matching life stages and values than numbers really. For example: the woman I was seeing before I met my wife was 34. She still lived at home, didn't really have much ambition, and basically lived for the weekend. NICE WOMAN - just not at the same place in life as me. Then I met my wife - masters degree, career, homeowner, stable as fuck. She might have been 11 years younger, but definitely a better match in terms of how she envisioned the life she wanted fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 06:11 PM
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Well, that's a problem I can't help you with. As long as we're not talking ridiculous numbers, that's something that never bothered me. I am not exactly a prude myself - put it that way. I am married and my wife is 29. We matched at 36 and 25.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 06:00 PM
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Understood. I agree. Which makes these rating discussions quite silly, at the end of the day.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 05:52 PM
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When I was on Tinder at ages 34-36, about 75% of my matches were from the 25-30 age group, about 20% from the 30-35 group, and about 5% from the 35-40. My age range was set from 25-40, and I was much more popular with the younger side of that range. Of course, it depends on what you look like. My experience is that women close to my own age prefer a guy who looks like Joe Rogan. That's not my aesthetic, so obviously I was not their type. I think the RP revenge fantasy stuff always focuses on VER…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 05:50 PM
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That's more complex, not less.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 05:36 PM
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I disagree. But I wouldn't say it's easier either. It's about the same, imo - it's just a different set of challenges. For context, I am answering as a 40 year old man. I dated from the ages of 18-23, was in a relationship from 24-33, then started dating again ages 34-36. Regarding the dating pool being smaller - that's entirely dependent on personal circumstances. 35-40 is one of those transitory ages where people can either still look fantastic, or look completely decrepit. If you are one of t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 05:35 PM
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Give me that second part in layman's terms, please? Zero knowledge of mathematics or statistics here.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 05:18 PM
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Mr. Deified, Scary Interesting, and Tragedy Tales are good for caving disasters, if you're not already aware of them. Also diving/cave diving stuff, which I feel is related.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 02:22 PM
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I see. In that case, they're the ones mistaking "hate" for "is annoyed by". Not surprised. People have a tendency to be extremist about emotions. You can't just be nonchalant about anything these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 01:37 PM
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It's not allowed on Reddit! It's not allowed!!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 01:11 PM
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This is called "the autism pill", I believe. And yes, I think it is the most important "pill". More so than looks, height, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 01:08 PM
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I had unprotected sex with my wife last night. Take that, gender roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 01:01 PM
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I think you might be mixing up "hate" with "are annoyed by". I've slept with women whom I found irritating because I also found them to be extremely physically attractive. It's a human flaw. Not gender specific. Women on here will deny it because they like to present themselves as flawless moral angels, but both genders do it all the time. Every woman I've ever been friends with has pumped and dumped a hot dummy, the exact same way I've fucked a gorgeous irritant against my better judgement.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 12:45 PM
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Dunno. Probably just a coincidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 12:31 PM
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I'm not sure what the point of this post is, or what the question is. My personal deconstruction of the "your league is who you can attract" phrase is that some people are capable of consistently attracting partners who are way out of their league. A 3/10 with an 8/10 on his arm is still a 3/10, in the eyes of the vast majority of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 12:30 PM
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Why don't you just get a prenup? Then you can divorce any time.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 12:26 PM
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I've noticed that all the women on that thread have something in common.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 12:24 PM
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I'm fairly realistic about love and bonding, but my actual point was: The women on here autistically drone on about men like me (40 married to a 29 year old) being opportunistic predators who use younger women for their bodies and nothing else. In reality, the woman who most closely shared my morals, outlook on life, who had no kids, who wasn't a cheater, who had admirable willpower and work ethic, just so happened to be younger than me. But they don't get that. All they see is the physical, or …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 09:28 PM
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But my post was my words, not womens' words...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 09:09 PM
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Is this a bit? I can't even tell anymore 😭
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 08:46 PM
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So I'm assuming it's like a Candy Crush style game then, and not an actual "game" game. In that case: I'd think she's an idiot.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 04:54 PM
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Needs more context. Is the game one of her main hobbies? Is it something she enjoys and gets a sense of fulfillment from? What I'm getting at is: I'd look differently at a woman who spent thousands on WoW than I would at a woman who spent thousands on microtransactions in like... Candy Crush or something. I've spent exorbitant amounts on things that people deem useless, and idgaf. They are things I enjoy. The concern is more about the impulsivity of the purchase than the amount itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 04:45 PM
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I imagine this is the kind of thing a PPDer would stand up and say at someone's wedding during the "any objections" part. Accompanied by that pushing glasses up after they slip down the nasal bridge action.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 04:24 PM
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PPDers genuinely don't understand the concept of love. "Well akshully..." "Statistically..." The idea that two people engage in a relationship because their initial physical attraction grew into emotional closeness is something that is never considered here. Bunch of maladaptive NERDS.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 04:16 PM
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PPDer challenge: don't have autism. Difficulty: impossible.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 04:01 PM
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American challenge: understand hyperbole or nuance. Difficulty: impossible.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 03:51 PM
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Redditor challenge: imagine a relationship where people not born on the exact same day as each other are able to fall in love. Difficulty: impossible.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 02:13 PM
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The women here are all grumpy asexuals who have an axe to grind with men. They will say or do anything to make the men here feel bad, because they are powerless in their own lives and it gives them a temporary release of frustration. If you're venting here for empathy, you're doing it in the wrong place. They're all autistic anyway, so it's doubtful that they even experience empathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 11:46 AM
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Real answer: it's fucking terrifying and a huge ball of pressure, but you just... have to keep going. The alternative is worse, seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 07:42 PM
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I've noticed this with Americans. No offence Americans, but even in the absence of religion, it certainly does seem like you cling to cults of identity to replace it with.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 05:56 PM
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It's not even just bad sex that coud have caused this. When single I took a woman on a first date to an EDM festival. I made it clear that I wouldn't be able to go absolutely wild because I had work the next morning. She took an E, and I took half an E. We had a good time, went back to mine, and had sex. Standard stuff. Then at 1am, as we were getting ready to sleep, she suggested taking another E. I said no way - I had to be up for work in 6 hours. But she took one anyway, and spent the rest of…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 04:26 PM
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My response here is perhaps going to be triggering for many since I know the main demographic of Reddit is Americans. I apologise in advance, it is not my intent to be hurtful. Yes, I think you are entirely correct. I am Italian, and the extent of the problems men have dating that I read about on pill spaces are mostly foreign to me. I ascribe it to a few different things: On the womens' side - US women seem to find money and material goods to be one of their primary attractors. I'm not saying t…
/r/AllPillDebate04/06/23 01:00 PM
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Suits me. Farming is incredibly difficult and labour intensive, whereas I love cooking and could do it all day.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 06:03 PM
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I'm not talking about personally as in IRL - I actually don't know anyone in real life who struggles with dating. I'm talking about in "incel" spaces online. I've been interested in this stuff on and off for years now. I've saw some of the pictures they post of themselves. Some are hideous - sure. Others are shredded and square-jawed. Even if you go on r/amiugly it shouldn't take you long to find a dude who says "never had a girlfriend, only had one kiss" and the lucky cunt looks like a bargain …
/r/AllPillDebate02/06/23 09:30 PM
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Honestly, without a picture of someone's coupon it would not be fair to say whether they need surgery or not. Lots of men I've seen struggling with dating are just as handsome as these guys, but think they're ugly because they look like a humourless autist with a front-facing camera selfie. I say this as an objectively ugly man myself.
/r/AllPillDebate02/06/23 09:23 PM
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That should be a very helpful comment. Theoretically Some of those men have very attractive faces, others more "cute". They're all athletically built. They all have a coherent style. They're white, because you prefer younger white men. The main thing I'd say they all have in common is that they all look happy, confident, and non-autistic. Personally I think that should be the main takeaway for anyone reading your post. Obviously those men are semi-famous and successful, so that look comes easier…
/r/AllPillDebate02/06/23 09:17 PM
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If you're actually looking to engage with these men and not just bully them, I'd suggest showing them a picture of a "normal looking" man you find attractive and explaining what it is that makes him stand out, along with your own demographic info (since different ages, ethnicities and subcultures tend to look for different things). The boy looks like a child to me, but his facial structure is well defined. He won't struggle to find partners when he grows into himself and develops a style, and fr…
/r/AllPillDebate02/06/23 08:54 PM
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Yeah, that's one of the things I like about it - the moral ambiguity of what he's doing. Unfortunately we seem to be in an age where enjoying something that doesn't present a protagonist as a bastion of morality makes you "problematic". However, if you liked Death Wish, you may enjoy an even better film from 1981 called Ms. 45. A mute seamstress gets raped twice in one day and decides to start killing men as revenge. She starts out killing rapists and muggers, then misogynists and creeps, then d…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 10:11 PM
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I don't complain about women's standards. For the most part I actually don't think your standards for male personal attributes are high enough. Having to make a doctor appointment for your adult male partner? Fuck that nonsense. Wouldn't be me, if I was a woman. I sometimes complain about women's behaviour, but that's different. You lot are doing a decent enough job on the standards front though.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 09:28 PM
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That's the whole point of my post, yes. I'm pointing it out in a roundabout, satirical way. You're spelling out it bluntly.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 08:49 PM
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Incorrect. I'm way below average. Ugly, even. And fully entitled - I admit it. How angry does that make you on a scale of 1 to 10?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 08:47 PM
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Read my post again.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 07:43 PM
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Q4A coming off the back of the incel thread: What is the most bizarre or innocuous thing you've been called an incel for? A few of mine: Believing that trans women should have their own sports leagues rather than compete with cis women. Enjoying the 1974 Charles Bronson vigilante film Death Wish. Not particularly enjoying the music of Beyonce.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 06:26 PM
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I'll be honest: very few. Maybe five in total.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 06:19 PM
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It's the fucking condescending Scooby Doo style woke speech patterns they all use that really take the biscuit. "Zoinks and yikes y'all! This is literally why y'all'd've are an incel!" Meanwhile the guy is a fucking acne-ridden 300 pounder who is lucky if he could find himself in a polycule with two Insane Clown Posse fans.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 05:40 PM
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I don't doubt that women are all shapes and sizes, but this has nothing to do with vaginal tightness - what we're talking about here is the position of the cervix and how low down it is. I'm the same size as this guy, and I've learned to adapt my technique because (TMI incoming) my wife feels pain when I hit her cervix, so I can't go to "full depth" without being careful. On the other hand I've been with women before who requested it deeper when there was nothing more to go deeper with lol. It c…
/r/AllPillDebate01/06/23 05:10 PM
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While that's true, what you've got to remember is that women are all hyper-competitive shit talkers. I've had majority female friend groups and I've heard it before too. "I only like dicks above 8 inches" "Well I only like dicks above 10 inches!!" "WELL FOR ME PERSONALLY I ONLY LIKE 12 INCH DICKS AND ABOVE". They're, of course, lying through their teeth. None of them will have seen a 10 inch dick in their lives, never mind 12. Just a bunch of bullshit to outdo other women, for the most part.
/r/AllPillDebate01/06/23 04:38 PM
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Is this an incel forum? I thought it was "all pill debate".
/r/AllPillDebate01/06/23 02:23 PM
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What height was she and what was her build? Asking because some women have lower cervices than others - usually smaller/lightly built women. I'm about the same size as you length-wise and my own experience has been that women who are smaller built (in the 5 foot to 5 foot 4 range) tend to be easier to make orgasm from penetration alone. With taller women you can feel that there's "more" there... you just can't get to it lol. Anyway there's literally nothing we can do about the size of our dicks,…
/r/AllPillDebate01/06/23 01:49 PM
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What even is an "incel" these days? I know the traditional definition is involuntarily celibate, but it seems to have changed. I'm happily married, never had any problems finding partners for casual or serious relationships, and my social media pfps are all pictures of me and my wife. I've been called an incel dozens of times. I've been called an incel by someone who is themselves involuntarily celibate, because I expressed a different opinion from them on an inconsequential matter. Someone will…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 01:14 PM
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What's your dick size and what are your own experiences with it? If you have a large dick, have you found it easy to make women orgasm from penetration alone? If you have a small dick, have you found it difficult to make women orgasm? Sell me on the dickpill. I need personal anecdotes.
/r/AllPillDebate01/06/23 12:57 PM
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Not enjoying this Bob Hoskins slander.
/r/AllPillDebate31/05/23 02:07 AM
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It's fucking brilliant. British gangster movie. Helen Mirren and Bob Hoskins both fantastic. Highly recommended.
/r/AllPillDebate31/05/23 02:05 AM
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Well, Professor Statistics: my data is one two year relationship (cohabitation), one nine year relationship (cohabitation), another one year relationship (no cohabitation but she stayed at my house 5 days a week, so...) and one three year marriage to present. None of those women could/would cook or clean, and I did/do 95% of the cooking and household chores. I am aware that more traditionally-minded women are more likely to perform domestic tasks, and traditionally-minded women are easy to find …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 06:29 PM
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You described women who can't/won't cook as "awful". What is it the kids say? "The misogyny is coming from inside the house."
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 04:25 PM
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Well, I didn't. And men certainly aren't the only ones to blame for the primacy of servility as an indicator of female worth - look at your own condescending attitude towards women who cannot/will not cook.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 04:15 PM
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I like manic pixie goth women with ADHD. They may be "awful" to you, but you've gotta remember, there's a ton of qualities that make someone worth being with that don't involve cooking and cleaning. And anyway, I'm so good at cooking and cleaning that I can handle the load for both of us. Doing dishes and cleaning out litterboxes isn't going to give me a breakdown any time soon.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 03:19 PM
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Fair, but you can remove cooking and cleaning from that list, because the majority of women these days are either unable or unwilling to do those things, even for themselves. So it's just looks for you. Rough deal, I admit it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 02:10 PM
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See, it's interesting to me that you believe a 4 to 6 jump to be a big difference for a woman. Gender flipped, I don't think most women would even register a 4 to 6 jump in a man. Sub 8 being invisible.
/r/AllPillDebate30/05/23 02:07 PM
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I must be different then, because in my eyes she's gone from a 4 without makeup to a 6 with. Not ugly to begin with, not beautiful at the end. Or alternatively: look at Lena Dunham. There's no amount of makeup or hairstyles or clothing that would make her physically attractive to me. Given that my opinion on this is so drastically different from the popular one, I think I should be quiet on this subject. I am evidently not qualified to speak on what is the norm.
/r/AllPillDebate30/05/23 01:49 PM
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Surgery changes the ballgame entirely, so for the case of this discussion we can leave it aside. I also could have got surgery, for example. But yes, ugly women certainly try to improve their appearance with makeup etc all the time - but does it work? For me, a painted pig is still a pig. And I suspect it's the same for most men. Maybe not you though, and if that's the case: fair enough.
/r/AllPillDebate30/05/23 01:04 PM
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What is "rich"? I am in the top 3% of earners where I live, but I feel they're referring to multimillionaires burning through 20k a day. If top 3% counts as rich, then I have exclusively dated "broke" (bottom 50% earners) women until I met my wife. The ones I can remember off the top of my head, their careers were: dental assistant, nursing assistant, cashier, call centre worker, waitress, secretary, hairdresser, beautician. All low income stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 12:07 PM
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Yeah, don't be so caught up in self-improvement that you ignore their red flags! You sound reasonable, so I would trust your gut in that respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 11:49 AM
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I'm in a similar position: I have a separate work phone which, for confidentiality reasons, I have to keep away from my partner. It's not a problem in my relationship, but I can imagine that there would be paranoid people out there who would find it suspicious. However, imo those are not the type of people that you would want to be with in the first place. If you've not given them any other reason to doubt your honesty, then them mistrusting you over such a situation is something I'd consider a …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 11:38 AM
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Five foot 8 with an extremely ugly face. Mick Jagger is a good comparator for me. Been called ugly by random people on the street many, many times - so I have objective proof. On the positive side: I work out a shitload, have a great head of hair, dress well, good hygiene, witty (in real life, not on here), and have zero inhibitions. You may be right, but personally I've never known a woman who had a face of the equivalent ugliness to me who managed to find an attractive partner.
/r/AllPillDebate30/05/23 11:24 AM
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Nurturing/Sweet. These words give me a bit of an ick in a romantic context, to be honest. Nurturing implies motherly, which is not something I ever prized. Too Freudian. And sweet has saccharine connotations. Kind. Easy peasy. How they treat other people. Extremely important. Is she rude/demanding/nasty to strangers? If so, that's how she will treat you in six months. Supportive. How does she react when you have a crisis? Example: While dating a woman a few years ago, my cat suddenly died. I was…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 11:18 AM
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Yes. I am childfree, so for me single parents were the bottom of the barrel.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 11:04 AM
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My opinions are drawn from me being an ugly man who managed to find romantic success by maxxing various things until I became "niche ugly" or "ugly hot". I simply don't think an ugly woman would be able to do the same. Could be wrong though.
/r/AllPillDebate30/05/23 10:57 AM
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I still think you didn't take time to fully read or process my original comment, because you're asking me questions that are all answered in there. Ok then why are you saying life is unfair for "unattractive men". Because I've been on both sides of the coin, and I've saw the stark difference. Life isn't fair, and unattractive people in general either have a rough ride, or have to do 10x the work of everyone else. Listen, so average looking men are suddenly unattractive? Basically, the implicatio…
/r/AllPillDebate30/05/23 10:54 AM
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I'd say the hierarchy goes: Attractive woman > average woman > attractive man > average man > ugly man > ugly woman. Attractive and average women have it easier than all men, but ugly women truly have drawn the short straw, even moreso than ugly men.
/r/AllPillDebate30/05/23 10:32 AM
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Right: Most men are average, not ugly. Correct. However, most women don't have super high physical standards. Some do, some don't. As a man your looks aren't as prioritized as much as other factors. That's exactly what I said. I do believe super deformities may disqualify you from attracting someone. Yes, that would be correct. Anecdotally, as a person who lives in London, I see average couples everywhere. I'd say that's the case across the globe. Again, your reducing everything to the physical …
/r/AllPillDebate30/05/23 10:21 AM
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You're either stupid, or you didn't actually read my comment properly. If it's the latter then take time to read it again. You're speaking in generalisations when I'm telling you that I've lived the experience on both sides of the coin, and what you've typed out is far too all over the place for me to make a proper response.
/r/AllPillDebate30/05/23 10:06 AM
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First of all, "my beliefs" are that life is harsh and unfair - doubly so if you're an unattractive man. I am now what you would call an older man who is successful in romantic relationships. But it was not always that way. I "maxxed out" all other positive aspects of myself to compensate for the unattractive things I couldn't change (face and height). Yes - it works. I'll never be considered handsome by the majority, but I'm considered niche "ugly hot" by enough women that I know I will always b…
/r/AllPillDebate30/05/23 09:53 AM
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You... think I'm an undercover police officer? Haha, okay mate.
/r/AllPillDebate29/05/23 07:05 PM
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It's me. I'm the knuckledragger. In all seriousness: yes, I am unfortunate looking (objective 3/10) but have never found it too difficult to get with women far above my station. I rationalise it as being due to the fact that I have zero inhibition and no sense of embarrassment, regret, or shame. Like your friend, I am "unapologetically myself". Not saying that will work for every ugly guy - but for my specific brand of ugly it does, and it is definitely repeatable if the circumstances are right.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 03:14 PM
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Plenty of women say we can't. If you think differently, you're in the minority of the current zeitgeist.
/r/AllPillDebate29/05/23 02:44 PM
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Rather than get hung up on the fact that we’re not a specific guy’s type we’re mature enough to move on and focus on the guys that are into us. I don't agree with this. Every woman I've ever turned down has taken it poorly. Women aren't angels - they're humans the same as men are. And unfortunately, most humans react badly to any perceived rejection. But to answer your question: part of it is the double standard. If a man said "I'm not attracted to black women", he would be lambasted as a racist…
/r/AllPillDebate29/05/23 01:07 PM
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Take that with a pinch of salt. Most of the people saying it have never actually tried them, or have debilitating autism. I'm a solid 3/10 looks wise and did well on Tinder. Better than I ever did in real life, in fact. If you can get a few good, professional looking pictures then you'll be fine.
/r/AllPillDebate29/05/23 12:22 PM
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Tinder to build your confidence up. If women in London are giving you the eye on the day to day, you'll do well on Tinder. It'll get you used to talking to and flirting with women, and you'll hopefully become accustomed to the idea of women being attracted to you.
/r/AllPillDebate29/05/23 11:34 AM
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I would not have got with a woman who was fat to begin with. However, if a partner got fat while we were together and was actively trying to lose that weight, I would of course support them. The money thing isn't a fair comparison, because I don't live in the US - women tend not to be as money obsessed here. Certainly, it is nice to have money. But it'd be like number four or five on the list of criteria for them when choosing a partner, not number one like it is in America.
/r/AllPillDebate29/05/23 11:32 AM
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I'm not young though. Which is, I suppose, either too old to know what I'm talking about, or too young to know what I'm talking about. And I'm not a gamer either. My wife is a gamer, but I've never had any interest in them. So I don't really get 75% of what you're saying here. It's 2023 - there are people from all walks of life on this forum. What you're reading is my subjective take based on what I have experienced in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 02:47 PM
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Good point and I concede it's 100% correct. When I returned to seriously dating circa 2019, one of my internal rules that I had to force myself to stick to was: no women who don't hold at least a Bachelors. No joke, the difference was astounding.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 01:09 PM
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I wouldn't say technically rejected, but in the past I have been what I would call "pre-rejected" on the basis of my height. By that I mean: match on Tinder, get conversation going, she asks height, I answer and get unmatched. And back in the days before OLD was invented, I got told that I'd be a catch if it wasn't for my height a few times. It was annoying, but it also wasn't a massive deal. I understood that it was one of my shortcomings, and I made sure to compensate for it in other areas. On…
/r/AllPillDebate28/05/23 12:51 PM
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I don't really do stats and studies on here - I believe the obsessive reliance on figures we see in this forum is a poor substitute for real life experience, and are usually skewed to fit the narrative of whoever is commenting. My statement is drawn solely from real life experience. If you take umbrage with my use of "most", I am happy for you to replace it with "most western women I have encountered".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 12:42 PM
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Most "western women" are high effort for low reward. We're talking rude, entitled, nasty, selfish, slovenly, overweight, lazy, unfaithful and quarrelsome. On top of that, they're often dragging another man's kids along with them. At the same time, these women believe they are perfect, and deserve the absolute best. Obviously, anyone who doesn't behave in such a manner is immediately viewed as a catch. Warning: the "western" women on here are going to hate you for being a better option than them.…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 12:32 PM
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This post is legitimately hilarious. I came in here thinking that it would be about the type of women who do things like invade men's mental health groups and tell the men to kill themselves, but no: it's about hot air ballooning. I wouldn't say that counts as a "male space". It wouldn't even register on my list of "male hobbies". #1 on the list of hobbies most appealing to a mustachioed, eccentric Victorian gentleman, but probably not going to top boxing in the masculinity stakes any time soon.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 11:30 AM
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You've hit the nail on the head with that. Unlike everyone else these days, I'm actually not a perfect person. I've been a hypocrite, and I've done some stuff that would go against what I believe to be my morals when I am "in my right frame of mind". The only difference is that admitting this doesn't give me the same sense of existential freakout that it does for (seemingly) many others. How it relates to the issue of the thread: women, being normal human beings, are perfectly capable of holding…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 07:10 PM
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Omg literally?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 06:52 PM
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Okedoke - if you want to believe that people are one dimensional, that's your prerogative. I won't even attempt to challenge it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 06:50 PM
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You wouldn't think so, right? But some of the most virulent racists I've ever known did that stupid black square trend for BLM. People love to talk the talk, but rarely walk the walk.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 06:44 PM
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I've said it before and I'll say it again now: women are the gatekeepers and perpetuators of toxic masculinity. As recent as yesterday on here, I watched a woman justify the behaviour of women who spread malicious rumours about men who have rejected them with the classic "oh your poor FEEFEES, how EMOTIONAL of you, how ZESTY" (which they only use because the F-slur is off the table these days). My wife has a friend who is so deep into the hypermasculine ick game that she can't even force herself…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 06:30 PM
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I'd describe my wife. Physically: athletic and attractive. Personality: driven, kind, loyal, funny. Age: ten years younger than me. Are there things about her that is less than ideal? Sure. She has debilitating ADHD which makes her scatterbrained, hyperactive and careless - but I went in to the relationship with my eyes wide open, and found the tradeoff for an otherwise amazing person to be entirely acceptable. No doubt you'll call that "settling", but the harsh truth of life is that no one is p…
/r/AllPillDebate27/05/23 05:14 PM
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Yes, ex had BPD. Absolute nightmare. Manipulative and abusive. Every man should go through it once though. Teaches you the warning signs, and what to avoid.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 03:25 PM
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Depends on culture and ethnicity. Americans - both men and women - seem to age like milk, at least to my eyes.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 03:24 PM
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You're completely right - that's what I'm saying. I'd estimate mine was about 5-6%
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 03:16 PM
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I'ma let you finish, but Hitler had one of the most diverse alliances of all time.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 02:43 PM
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N count discussion is akshully at the top of Maslow's hierarchy of needs.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 02:30 PM
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Do you think millionaires all have huge social media followings? I know two millionaires and both have less than 50 followers.
/r/AllPillDebate27/05/23 02:24 PM
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This sub used to be good. Constant N count discussions, screeching about how 30 year old women are too young to consent, non-stop speculation on when the wall hits, AWALT, AMALT. Where has that gone? I have Covid. I need some fucking entertainment.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 02:18 PM
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It's the choice of a slap that makes that abuse rather than self-defence in that situation imo. I've been in the scenario you describe, and unfortunately felt that I had to use force in order to escape (I pushed her aside and held her away while I unlocked the door). A slap carries different connotations though. It's humiliating. More something you'd do to "put someone in their place" than to escape an unwanted situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 01:24 PM
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No. If your woman is psychologically abusing you then you need to kick her to the kerb, not kick her teeth in. Reactive abuse (the concept you're referring to) is understandable, but that doesn't make it excusable or justifable.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 01:08 PM
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My mistake - I misread that part of the data and just compared her matches per week to mine, which worked out the same. However, her match rate is much higher because she obviously swiped right less than I did, making her much more successful overall.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 12:50 PM
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Surprisingly, I'm actually staggered by how similar these stats are to my own experience on Tinder as a fairly unattractive man. One big difference for me is that I'd switch the "not responded" figure with "no conversations", as women don't message first 99% of the time, but otherwise that looks about right. I mean, she was getting about 10 matches a week. That's pretty bad for a woman. I've known average/around average women who could rack up 100 in a single day.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 12:24 PM
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Chaotic evil represent 😈
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 05:19 PM
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Same league. He's bald and fat, but even with the crooked nose beats me hands down in the face department.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 02:13 AM
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There's no specific issue. In isolation, my features are fine - defined; symmetrical even. But when put together, the result is simply displeasing to most. Think Mick Jagger when he was young, or the guy who played Theon Greyjoy in GoT - that type of face. Technically there's nothing "wrong", but altogether something is definitely not right lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 01:15 AM
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100% yes. My wife discovered that her friend is a serial Tiktok commenter. Constantly promotes cheating, gold digging, abusing men, manipulating men, stealing from men etc. In real life she was bullied very badly by other women as a teenager, and has a boyfriend who is (in our opinion) a total piece of shit loser.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 09:56 PM
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The point is about single women. But I agree with you about single men too. You're the one who is shadowboxing The Gender Wars here.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 08:57 PM
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You've not seen the face lad.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 08:08 PM
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5 foot 8, full head of hair (my one decent feature), car crash face.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 07:54 PM
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It's an option, but it's kinda late in the day for that. My face, despite its unattractiveness, managed to get me married to my ideal woman. Changing it would change the face she fell in love with. Surgery 15-20 years ago would have made a difference, but in all honesty being "an uggo" didn't really hold me back as much as they say it should have.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 07:53 PM
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Haha, I am already looksmaxxed at a 3. Without it, I'd be a 2. But there's only so much polishing you can do to a turd! Regardless, I agree that any man, whatever their attractiveness level, will benefit from exercising and dressing well.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 07:28 PM
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Yes, it was 2020 when we matched tbf - I fully acknowledge that things may have changed since that time.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 06:48 PM
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Responding as an ugly man who has dated and is currently married to an attractive woman. For context, I'm about an objective 3/10, and she's about an objective 8/10 (although to me she is obviously 10++++ or else I wouldn't have married her). How did you meet? Tinder. How was it? Unsure what you mean by that. Was he insecure about his looks? Of course I am, but you can't ever really express that. Got to mask it. Lack of confidence is even more unattractive than being unattractive. Why did you br…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 06:27 PM
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I get where you're coming from, but dating apps don't exist in a vacuum. When I was on Tinder, a good 20% of my matches were from people who were in roughly similar social circles to me. You could play that "six degrees of" game and get to them quite easily through friends of friends of friends. You pop up on their IG story and suddenly someone's cousin who is friends with a woman you turned down a decade ago messages them with a slew of nonsense about you. It's best to just avoid being the subj…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 05:22 PM
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Yes, in his case it would be better to say "no" if he is having these traumatic experiences. However, I am pointing out that choosing "no" does not come without negative repercussions itself. As for why someone would care that they are the victim of malicious rumours - I do not know what your life experience is, or if you have ever been the subject of gossip, so I will try to explain in the most basic terms: Most people who have been in this position find being the target of rumours to be unplea…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 04:42 PM
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I'm not really soft enough to get PTSD from having sex I didn't want to have, but essentially: Acquiescing to the type of sex that I'd prefer not to have is preferable to having no sex and being the subject of malicious rumours and ire.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 04:24 PM
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I'm being a bit facetious, but men don't really have the luxury of saying "no" to a woman's sexual requests. Best case scenario they call you boring and don't see you again, worst case scenario they get offended and spread rumours about you being gay/impotent. Best to just do what they ask tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 02:33 PM
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I dated from 99-06 and was in a relationship from 07-16. An estimate guess would be that I slept with about 30 women during that time period. Only once did I encounter a woman who requested violent/degrading sex from me. I became single in 2016 and dated/had relationships until I met the woman who is now my wife in 2020. During this second time period, I estimate that I slept with about 15 women. Of those 15, maybe 10 requested violent/degrading sex - spitting on them, holding them down, slappin…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 02:18 PM
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In my experience, the women who usually end up perma-single are the nuts ones. Attractiveness doesn't come into it all that much. Difficult to be around, very argumentative, prone to tempers and fits of rage, frequent crying episodes, extreme insecurity, can't communicate, plays fast and loose with the truth, body dysmorphia, and personality disorders like BPD or NPD. That's the recipe for female singledom.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 01:18 PM
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40 now. 34-35 at the time I learned that lesson.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 11:51 AM
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I have never found that my attraction to someone whom I was initially not attracted to grew over time. I always remained unattracted to them. I used to live by the rule that if you're not having sex by date 3, then move on because they're not interested. It always worked fine for me. A few years ago, I dated a woman who wanted to wait. I decided to be open-minded. I later found out that she wanted to wait for sex because she was not initially attracted to me. I was not her type at all, but she g…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 11:45 AM
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This is every relationship I've ever been in. It can be annoying when they turn their brains off to the extent that you have to parent them as if they're kids, but on the upside you know it means they're likely not going to cheat. Ngl though it makes things like going on holiday super stressful, since you have to do EVERYTHING from planning to packing to passports.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 11:56 PM
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No. Always looks first. Personality is what keeps me around, but looks is the draw.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 11:50 PM
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Have to say I'm surprised at this. Every millennial man I know works out, and every young photo I've seen of my Boomer dad in the 60s and 70s shows that he and all his friends had noodle arms.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 08:18 PM
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The average life expectancy WHERE I LIVE is 88; not the country overall. The Italian average overall is 84 I think, but my municipality is known for having a much higher frequency of centenarians than average. Can we not get deep into nitpicking my demographics though please? All my grandparents lived until their 90s/100s, so it's likely going to be the same for me. You have a point that I should have prefaced my comment with the fact that I'm childfree, but the thought of having children simply…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 07:23 PM
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Average life expectancy where I live is 88 so it's doubtful that I'm past the midway point (obviously could get flattened by a bus tomorrow though). But yes, I'm childfree and got a vasectomy a decade ago. However, all my friends have recently started having their first kids in the last few years. Reddit says they should all have shrivelled wombs and useless cocks, and the kids will come out retarded - but they're all healthy, happy normal families from what I can see.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 07:02 PM
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To provide an alternative perspective: my parents had me at 43 and 41. They're now 83 and 81, and go on five or six holidays a year. They're on an Icelandic cruise right now. My dad laid a cement patio by himself last month. My grandparents all lived until their late 90s or early 100s, and my grandmother rode her bike to the shops until she was 94. Obviously, Reddit is a place where lots of people from different walks of life and backgrounds can interact; some of us will come from places where t…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 06:22 PM
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Happened a few times when I used OLD. Ghost and block from me. No interest in that scene.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 05:34 PM
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What's your age?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 05:04 PM
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Hate to break it to you, but 99% of people never end up getting things in order. Part of the human experience is never really being satisfied with your lot. You always want more, and those who stop wanting generally stagnate and wither. It's kinda why mid-life crisises exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 04:23 PM
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You're absolutely right. It's not entitlement with most women - it's fear of rejection. If you want proof, watch that "The Button" dating show on Youtube. The women are clearly more concerned with rejecting the man first than they are with actually getting to know anyone. I suppose a lot of it is that women have been told from a young age that their only value is their physical attractiveness, so it's an "all eggs in one basket" scenario for them - if they get rejected, that means they're not at…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 03:53 PM
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I hate to say it because it's cliche, but stop listening to teenagers on the Internet. To them, 30 is ancient. IRL I had as good a time dating in my late 30s as I did in my teens and early 20s. Better even, depending on your perspective. At 40 I'm still being told that I'm a kid; I'm "too young" to be worrying about whatever I'm worried about; "too young" to be settled; "too young" to know what I'm talking about. Life doesn't end at 25, despite what the Reddit says.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 03:23 PM
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Lack of self-consciousness = lack of inhibition, lack of fear, lack of anxiety, lack of second-guessing. In other words: confidence. Whether earned or unearned.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 03:09 PM
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They're not attracted to the toxicity per se (well... some are, but they're a minority), but rather they're attracted to the willingness to act, lack of self-consciousness, low inhibition, and confidence that men with dark triad traits display. The toxicity is an unfortunate side-effect, but most women will tolerate it in order to be with someone they find attractive. I've experienced it my whole life. I'm far below average looking. However, I have zero inhibitions, zero sense of shame, and no s…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 01:33 PM
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Assuming you've only got enough time to spend on one of these people. This isn't realistic, because you'd just make time. But I'll play along. How long are you waiting for the first person to respond with an answer, before pursuing the second? 6 hours. If I've text after a date and the person hasn't responded in 6 hours (not including sleep time, obviously), I'd interpret it as disinterest. Say you end up going with the second person and the first person responds saying they would like to see yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 12:57 PM
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