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You're the one who came here with a psychological question
/r/seduction10/05/25 11:00 PM
2

Sounds like psychopathy. You also mentioned addiction problems, which would track. Psychopaths are simply not wired to consider certain negative consequences of their actions.
/r/seduction10/05/25 07:57 PM
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You are precisely describing a dumb ass association you have ingrained in your mind that trumps the real context you're presented with. Literally the same as a Pavlov dog. Go cry somewhere else. The world has bigger problems then men asking for sex on apps that are known for hook ups.
/r/seduction09/05/24 04:03 PM
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Your "dialect" is just off. You play the romantic: buying flowers, going on multiple dates before getting sexual, generally clean cut and innocent. It's more common (basically the expectation) to try and get the girl to your place so you can chill & fuck.
/r/seduction08/05/24 10:10 PM
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There are two axes: Macro/micro and inner/outer outer macro = self-improvement action, gym, study, work, network inner macro = self-improvement mindset, therapy, mental detox, regular meditation, spirituality, religion, personal purpose outer micro = push & pull, logistics, openers, statements of intent... inner micro = mindset for the moment, state, mood
/r/seduction08/05/24 09:53 PM
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I'm gonna agree with you. Lots of blackpilled men should go out more and see how non-Chads can have game and pull.
/r/seduction08/05/24 07:17 PM
3

Lookism isn't an axiom like "you must be an 8+ to get laid" but that doesn't mean you can ignore basic rules of attraction and tell some deformed bastard he has the same chances as a catwalk model and that his much lower success rate is due to things he has control over. The playing field isn't even.
/r/seduction08/05/24 06:41 PM
14

This is literal psychological triggering in action: Read white man have sex in other country => triggered. No matter how legitimate the guy's reason for being there is.
/r/seduction08/05/24 06:27 PM
0

No. His priorities wrt game are way off and his infields look staged.
/r/seduction08/05/24 05:52 PM
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Yes but men are very honest about that. Women otoh will lie about their primal attraction to looks like their life depends on it. And that has caused A LOT of confusion.
/r/seduction08/05/24 05:45 PM
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He? Who are you referring to? You talk like a bugging AI.
/r/seduction30/04/24 03:29 PM
1

Finding a good wingman is an exercise in picking a guy who is highly motivated but only half as good as yourself. Maybe you're going out with the wrong guys for game.
/r/seduction28/04/24 05:38 PM
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Combine this with the recently posted mindset that she paid you $8,000 to meet her = profit. What better woman than a mentally retarded sugar mommy could one even dream of dating?
/r/seduction28/04/24 05:33 PM
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If your videos had any merit, you'd be able to. You just can't. If you want to plot spergy plans and schemes for your dates and remain unable to have natural interactions, more power to you.
/r/seduction28/04/24 04:31 PM
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Do you have a source or are you talking out of your ass is the only question here.
/r/seduction28/04/24 04:18 PM
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So you can't put any of why my comment is LE WRONG into words. Gotcha.
/r/seduction28/04/24 04:17 PM
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Let's figure this out. Why would you need to be charismatic and funny to know when you want to touch a girl and when you want to focus on whatever activity you're doing? It's not that hard. Takes no fancy stuff. Just a lack of severe autism, I guess.
/r/seduction28/04/24 03:58 PM
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Anxiety and enthusiasm cant exist in the same space because its the same part of the brain those feelings occur in. Source?
/r/seduction28/04/24 03:24 PM
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"Hi/Hola" is going to be my new text opener lmao. Not "Hi", not "Hola", but "Hi/Hola!"
/r/seduction28/04/24 03:12 PM
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Taking good pictures is literally an art. Even if your face is mid, you can have insane pictures with the right setting, pose, camera lens/FOV and lighting. Just expect this to take a lot of time and effort til you find what truly works for you. As for some guys having easy ins with girls in clubs... yeah, sure, and then they don't know how to hold a convo, have zero humor, and never even heard of logistics.
/r/seduction28/04/24 03:10 PM
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Never.
/r/seduction28/04/24 02:51 PM
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Basically try to disarm them with kindness, asking how they know the girl, building rapport, but don't forget about your target girl as you do that lol. If the cockblocker is too aggressive for that, use your judgement... plan A is to stay nice but stand your ground and call the cockblocker's rudeness out and try to get the girl on your side. Plan B is to number close and maybe snipe the girl like 20 minutes later when she' alone again. You can also excuse yourself for a minute, go to the bathro…
/r/seduction28/04/24 02:40 PM
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Dude, not finding Max's content might a blessing in disguise. That guy's whole point has been to "beat" anxiety by doing EXTRA cringe exercises, so that whatever cringe game you spit later won't make you cringe that hard in comparison.
/r/seduction27/04/24 05:43 PM
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You can't make plans at that level of detail. You have to be dynamic, figure out logistics, figure out if she can keep the costume on or needs to change, be willing to schedule a date for the evening, deal with cockblockers, etc.
/r/seduction27/04/24 05:37 PM
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Tell me how my comments is wrong, weasel bro. It sure looks like you can't.
/r/seduction27/04/24 05:26 PM
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Don't make a plan to use the activity as an excuse to get touchy with the girl. That's stupid and forced and will be awkward. Just go on the date and focus on what you want to do at any given moment. There will be phases where you want to immerse yourself in the activity e.g. to win or bust some moves or whatever you're doing. And then there will be moments where you want to get physical with your girl. Or maybe not. Either way, take it as it comes, and when a genuine desire for physicality aris…
/r/seduction27/04/24 05:18 PM
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You give us basically zero info about the situation (2 girls close to you, the most common scenario of all) so your question might as well be, "how do I open?"
/r/seduction27/04/24 05:05 PM
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You're being dismissive of flirting and seduction as a skillset of its own. Trying to make us/YOURSELF believe that seduction comes naturally if you just improoov a little. Which is just total BS. If you're going to post one of the many "advice"-but-actually-just-throwing-shit-at-the-wall threads here, at least stand by what you said and don't try to weasel out of it at the first chance.
/r/seduction27/04/24 04:49 PM
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HNNNNNGGGGG GUYS I I I I THINK IMMMM IMPROOOOOVINNNNNGGGG If only you knew how wrong you are. A huge segment of the dating advice market is geared towards men who have "made it" career wise but still can't get with women. That's the whole point of all those snake oil salesmen, selling their courses and seminars at ridiculous prices. Sure, some broke guys will scrape together their last coin and join some stupid bootcamp in a hail mary last shot at life stunt. But you're seriously underestimating…
/r/seduction27/04/24 03:32 PM
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Thoughts? I have a lot of thoughts on this topic. If you view game as a SCHEME for hooking up with girls, this is absolutely genius. In fact, the most genius 'game scheme' I've ever seen would be coding a simple app that copies the instagram live streaming UI and makes it look like you're live streaming with tens of thousands of viewers and a super fast chat. You won't even need any special gear, nor a wingman/camera man, all you need is your phone and some stupid excuse for not sharing your ins…
/r/seduction27/04/24 03:18 PM
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Buy a tripod and approach models for interviews with your cam/phone obviously recording. Many models will be receptive to that, even if you're a rando. Say that you're starting a social media interview channel. Be nice, think of some great and intriguing interview questions, then try to transition to an "us" frame and/or flirting and go for a close/instant date.
/r/seduction25/04/24 04:40 PM
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Lots of things, BUT... consider the statistics behind this question. Using "dirty short-term strategies" also gets you way more girls in the first place. It's entirely fallacious to then go complaining that most of these extra girls don't want to go long term. Because they probably also wouldn't have been interested in you if you'd "just been yourself" from the start. Something to chew on.
/r/seduction25/04/24 04:25 PM
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Conversations in books usually serve the plot and aren't that applicable to real life. I'd honestly rather watch a sitcom, some of which have good jokes and comedic timing. Any books your were thinking of in particular though?
/r/seduction18/04/24 08:46 PM
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Books are extremely overrated. The relevant info can usually be summarized in one or two pages. The stories/anecdotes are pure fluff with zero relevancy to your life. Every author can claim to be an absolute champ when it isn't customary to show any proof whatsoever. Not everyone can shoot an infield though. And no book will ever portray what actually happened irl accurately. Infields allow YOU to be the judge, see patterns the author missed, see the raw footage, see if the maker actually has me…
/r/seduction18/04/24 08:41 PM
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Most redditors don't do shit and are complete losers, So I wouldn't take their opinions too seriously. I know + lots of bots who don't usually post here brigading the thread. Just try it out for a week and see if it works or not. I feel like this is a kind of thing you want to get right from the start and not just throw yourself in. There aren't that many clubs I could reasonably try it on and I don't want to ruin my chances. Only thing is, you might be on too different of a vibe. Like if you've…
/r/seduction18/04/24 08:25 PM
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Also do you really want to be arriving stone cold sober and trying to connect with people that have been dancing, sweating, drinking and throwing various pills and powder down their necks all night? I'm open to the idea of it working and becoming easy to fit the vibe over time. Why would it be different than any other learned skill? most venues are unlikely to let you in after 3am at the latest unless you know people on the door Yeah that sucks. Knowing bouncers might be a major prerequisite. Ca…
/r/seduction18/04/24 08:10 PM
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Good stuff
/r/seduction17/04/24 10:23 PM
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Did you slay tho?
/r/seduction17/04/24 10:07 PM
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Yeah I thought about that. I also don't mind going inside the club or bars btw. the numbers you get are worthless when the girls are right about to go party -- I'd rather be the last impression than the first the time constraint is very soft and wholly depends on your discipline, so you'll always be tempted to stay longer than you planned this especially applies when you find a girl you can't pull yet but where you know you have good chances when you stay But maybe it's worth a shot too. Have yo…
/r/seduction17/04/24 10:04 PM
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It's a bad idea until you see someone pull it off.
/r/seduction17/04/24 09:31 PM
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That's my optimistic view too. Now I just need to find a mentor who's experienced in that niche... easier said than done. Probably like two guys for every city.
/r/seduction17/04/24 09:28 PM
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It's a trash tier argument, like most others you wrote. You're even using 'street game' wrong. You're clearly talking out of your ass and clearly never pulled during closing hours. Keep theorizing, big brain. I'm looking for PUAs with actual experience in a niche here.
/r/seduction17/04/24 08:33 PM
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Drunk women can’t give consent - an I’m only saying this to save you the allegation and lawyer fees . Thanks bro, you just single handedly saved us all from night game.
/r/seduction17/04/24 08:11 PM
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Not weirder than hitting the club at midnight, staying sober for 5h and approaching a completely new girl at 5am.
/r/seduction17/04/24 08:08 PM
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More girls will be like that but nowhere near all. Closing hour pulls are still a major thing.
/r/seduction17/04/24 07:57 PM
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And then you messaged your cousin so he could dump that hoe, correct?
/r/seduction17/04/24 10:35 AM
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To get better answers you should have made a thread "There are no dirty techniques that work" and you would have received an encyclopedia worth of contrarian redditors 'proving you wrong'. Some more just because it's you. Picking up where the last guy left off. This is a 'stage of the night' kind of thing. Girls in clubs get approached all night long. There's gonna be a golden hour where most new girls you talk to have already been 'warmed up' by other guys before those gave up/got rejected. You…
/r/seduction16/04/24 05:28 PM
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A thing called lying. Everyone here agrees that girls look for high status guys. Well, it's not hard to fake status when you're a total stranger. Let's assume you have no friends, no job, no education, never had a gf, you're broke and live with your parents. Average redditor stuff. Your scheme would be trivial: Never social media close -- say you don't/barely use insta etc; say you live in another city but came to visit your family for a few weeks; say you have a great career in the other city; …
/r/seduction16/04/24 01:16 PM
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Learn to be confident through practice, understanding your strengths, talking to lots of people, and therapy if needed. That would be a valid point. Maybe you avoided wording it like that because I asked you all not to glue points together, but what I meant was "don't glue points together that semantically don't belong together." Like "work on your career and hit the gym..."
/r/seduction16/04/24 12:28 PM
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Half of these aren't actionable cause you're describing what to be/have, but not what to DO to achieve those things.
/r/seduction14/04/24 04:25 PM
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The advice comes from the mindset of "at work you must be the perfect slave; hypernormal, personalityless, soulless."
/r/seduction14/04/24 12:22 PM
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No. My comment is perfect as is.
/r/seduction12/04/24 08:55 PM
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I didn't feel a connection means I didn't feel a dick in my pussy / tongue in my mouth in your case.
/r/seduction12/04/24 08:21 PM
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A standard sheet of grid paper should have more than 52 lines and something like 40 columns. Meaning you can plot 40 years worth of weeks/weekends on it by using each column for 1 year, each cell for 1 week. You could use the cells to denote how many times you had sex, or how well your week went on a scale of 0-9, or just whether your life got better, worse or stayed the same during the week. If you use double columns per year, for a total of 20 years, you could come up with an encoding using sm…
/r/seduction12/04/24 08:06 PM
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Imagine you're you, except 42. How would you feel about 32 y/o you? He obviously should have gotten off his ass, work hard and play hard. You have 520 weekends to go.
/r/seduction12/04/24 03:31 PM
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And they say indirect game doesn't work... ;)
/r/seduction12/04/24 02:00 PM
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Training issue. View your day as a series of eye contacts. Colleagues, friends, enemies, gym buddies, strangers in public, cashiers, servers, baristas, and naturally, girls you talk to. Don't miss the beat where eye contact is usually built. If you didn't make ten eye contacts on any given day, you either weren't outside or you weren't alive.
/r/seduction10/04/24 07:03 PM
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Nitpicking and irrelevant to the argument. The 2% comment you bloops upvoted to cope is totally wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 06:38 PM
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Straight up false. Miscarriages are not counted towards the 20% statistic. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8654281/
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 03:03 PM
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When adults are already struggling now, how do you think they'll do financially when they're old? Good enough to rely on themselves without kids?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 02:54 PM
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None of that makes industrialization the only relevant factor re birth rates. 20% of pregnancies end in abortions. It doesn't get more measurable than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 02:47 PM
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Potentially, depending on the circumstances. Though one major judicial difference there is that any family court will give the kids to the mother in case of a breakup, meaning I'd have wasted my time raising the kids without being allowed to profit from the fruits of that investment. That's a problem a SAHM will almost never have.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 02:44 PM
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Muh enslavement. There is no guarantee that your children will or even can take care of you Was waiting for this non-argument. There's some chance that your children will hate you sure. But when you have no kids, that part is guaranteed as opposed to being low in probability.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 02:39 PM
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The more this old boys' club "civilization" comes crashing down, the worse you have it. Europe is on track to becoming Islamic, the US is well on track to losing big against BRICS. You can sabotage your own country with your birth rate eliminating ideology all you want, it won't improve your life beyond shortsighted gotchas.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 02:37 PM
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If that's how you view caring for parents, your parents must be miserable with you as a child.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 02:23 PM
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You're absolutely right that this would be the way under natural/stone age circumstances, i.e. without power conglomerates ruling over continents. The only problem is that not a single politician, banker, large business owner will accept a country that they have a stake in going into a shrinking phase, thus offering diminishing returns and being unable to pay debt with interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 02:13 PM
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Deflation needed
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 02:03 PM
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This. It's also short sighted self-interest. Not even getting into the whole 'cat lady' future that awaits, without kids you have a good guarantee that nobody will care about you when you're old. And if you think that your country will still have a working pension system then, well, good luck, I hope you're right.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 02:00 PM
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Politicians sure seem to think it is when their answer is to open the immigration floodgates to offset declining birth rates.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 01:52 PM
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Whataboutism. There can be multiple factors. Industrialization can be one of them, but the US has been pretty industrialized during the baby boom too. This one factor doesn't discount feminist fundamentals like birth control, abortions, and 'wait til you're thirty' lifestyles.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 01:50 PM
0

SK's male idols are hyper-feminized
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 01:42 PM
1

From which result?
/r/seduction07/04/24 01:31 PM
3

Yandex is the least censored search engine.
/r/seduction06/04/24 10:28 PM
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Option A) write a long, mature text about how you view the situation, how you really like her and felt like she really likes you too and suggest a date again. And don't be afraid of including some accusation against her and her behavior, which has been wrong. Option B) realize that she may be the first but won't be the last HB9 who's into you. Realize that this is your league now. Regain control over your love life. Take action. Fear nothing. Dominate.
/r/seduction06/04/24 05:10 PM
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Most RSD material was never worth watching to begin with. Julien - Pimp (2014) is their best product and they never beat that. It's a pretty good overview of 'pure' game, i.e. no self-improvement stuff mixed in, no shitty philosophy, no constant bragging trying to gain status in the PUA scene.
/r/seduction06/04/24 04:06 PM
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Most women you know disrespect their men
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 03:06 PM
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Outside.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 02:26 PM
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Talk to women, but only women that want to be approached and you can't know this beforehand and if you get it wrong, you're harassing her. This reads like satire. If you get it wrong just leave her alone, she's gonna be fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 11:10 PM
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So all men who can't gain status at home should flee to a poorer country? Kant's categorical imperative is becoming sentient at that point.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 11:04 PM
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Possibly, but I wasn't responding to OP. The motte I'm referring to is that of the blue pill commenter. Motte: 50 y/o men shouldn't date teenagers Bailey: A 23 y/o is an abuser for dating an 18 y/o
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 11:02 PM
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The rest is just your genes. Exactly. Ballpark 25% of men can rely on that while being in a reasonable shape. The rest need to compensate and that's gonna take a lot of work. Gaining status by moving to a poor country is an unattractive option for most men. To get real status, you'll need a lot of effort grinding, networking and socializing.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 10:49 PM
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Men = Need a good combination of physical appearance, money and/or status. And a life's worth of work goes into achieving that. Your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 10:42 PM
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Your cultural views must be random events.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 10:35 PM
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When you embrace holding contradictory beliefs, it becomes nonsensical to tolerate you in any debate or discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 10:29 PM
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if it is frowned upon for 50 year old men to date teenagers Damn you retreated deep into the motte.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 10:23 PM
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You're pivoting to a new definition of short king: short, but taller than the woman he's dating. More power to you, champ.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 10:19 PM
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knows you doesn't know you highly attracted strong signs mild signs medium attraction mild signs very subtle When you newly met the woman, you should not wait for intense signs of attraction, active pursuit, or a high tolerance of mistakes on your part. You need to take the initiative -- and also follow as little common reddit advice as possible. Only once you know each other, this whole "if a girl is really into you" logic kicks in. Do it any other way and you'll be a victim of reddit's favorit…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 10:12 PM
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If you don’t want to protect your country, your history, your religion, your way of life, your family, etc. Neither do the politicians who want to send you to war.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 09:44 PM
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https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0192513X13519256 among women 1.7% wanted to only date men shorter than them whereas 48.9% wanted to only date men taller than them. Muh short kings. Muh non-issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 09:23 PM
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Ok I'll take your advice! Oh wait, I already did. Turns out you're the one who's deluded about the average woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 09:10 PM
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Even if it's thousands, you suffer from selection bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 08:49 PM
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You're extrapolating from the couple women whose strong attraction you noticed. You don't even know how many women were into these men without giving noticeable signs.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 08:10 PM
0

You're extrapolating from minuscule amounts of data.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 08:05 PM
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Good luck getting a man you actually want after 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 02:47 PM
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What you said about people who come at you with the ole "game every girl the same!!!" is so on the money.
/r/seduction04/04/24 02:23 PM
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your date goes well -> you'd be stupid to focus on girl 2 your date goes bad -> girl 1 can't be used to make girl 2 jealous
/r/seduction04/04/24 01:46 PM
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Women went to the park today.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 01:10 PM
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I'm quite sure that "this is the lifestyle I like" is a better explanation than "my best pics just so happen to come from vacations and posing and just so happen to be set in rather wealthy environments."
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 01:10 PM
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Not elite. Believe me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 01:02 PM
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Like, have y’all been on social media recently? I'd wager a lot of users here stick to reddit. Which would explain so much... and some of the defensiveness would actually be justified.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 01:33 AM
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Because I'm referring to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 01:19 AM
1

Reddit Anthropologists Really Basic Social Sciences Building Is this you trying to bolster some stupid social science degree you have?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 01:18 AM
1

You should see dating apps from men's POV. Most women who look halfway decent are imitating influencer lives there. And I really mean halfway. Travel, posing, trying to look the richest they can, linked ig... but sure, tell yourself I'm making that up. If you're gonna say that's only dating apps, fine, I'll take the concession. Because it's something you can easily verify as opposed to rivaling claims about real life. trad wife Uh-huh. I know that's your nemesis. You could be more subtle next ti…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 01:05 AM
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That's a rather loose definition of echo chamber but ok. My algos don't look like that at all. I have some dating coach types in it but they preach how awesome women are because they think that helps their audience alleviate their approach anxiety. I never liked Andrew Tate if that's who you mean. Anyway, when you try to figure out why your next relationship went bad, think of this post.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 12:43 AM
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It clearly is when that's your response.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 12:21 AM
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Why would I be stuck in an echo chamber of women I don't like? Do you realize how little sense you're making?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 12:11 AM
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That lots of women treat their men like servants.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 11:46 PM
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A lot of women have princess syndrome
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 11:39 PM
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Stone age explanation: Man: that woman has my semen, therefore might have my baby - I feel great for spreading my genes Woman: that man ran from his responsibility of caring for his (potential) baby and protecting the mother - he's bad
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 11:37 PM
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Being treated well feels good. Treating others well feels good. So no, that explanation isn't sound.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 11:31 PM
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Mens' standards: normal distribution. Womens' standards: extremely left skewed distribution.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 11:27 PM
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Muh age. Muh sex. Thank you for your remarkable contribution. The Knowitall Institute of Denialism should accept your application any moment now.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 11:22 PM
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My post title might be aggressive but I'm not trying to generalize over all women, which would be insane. Marriages are at an all time low and other data, such as the amount of people opting out of dating, support my point of unrealistic dating expectations given the present circumstances and attainability of partners who meet the sought after criteria. The issue isn't really two sided, since women are the gatekeepers of dating if we can trust dating app behavior at all. Women also still rate li…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 11:05 PM
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Alright, thanks for genuinely trying to help though.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 10:31 PM
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Ok it's just off the mark. Maybe you have a very one-dimensional view of people you talk to on reddit. But no, I'm not that guy who scrolls instagram and tiktok all day, or even more than an hour per week. I haven't been on dating apps in a long time. Almost all my new contacts with men and women alike have been made irl for the last years. Do you think I transcended the presence of social media in society that way? Hell no. The people I talk to still use it, and way more than I do. And they're …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 10:04 PM
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You're conflating "being an active influencer" with just "living a lifestyle that's promoted by influencers." I'm exclusively referring to the latter. What that entails is listed in the post. That's what women who are in the dating pool want/demand and that's reflected in their partner selection (or lack thereof). Yes, women go to college and work some hours. That's what I called the "embarrassed millionaire" stage in their life, where they don't have the high value partner that they want "yet."…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 09:41 PM
2

Mention large scale issue. Some know-it-all resorts to "try harder lol." Classic.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 09:28 PM
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>mentioning the word society near any blue piller My bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 09:19 PM
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You could have saved a lot of time if you read the post since this point is addressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 09:18 PM
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You're like a bugging AI chatbot. What lifestyle do influencers usually display?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 09:12 PM
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Let's hear your radically different definition of an influencer lifestyle.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 09:05 PM
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Society has a problem when you need ever more discriminatory filters. There are very few church girls where I'm from. Even if I could get one, the issue would prevail for all other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 09:04 PM
1

Influencer lifestyle*, sure. You could have gotten that info from my post.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 08:59 PM
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That's an apt summary of how it was in like the 90s. Occasional vacations, pretty ordinary demands most men can fulfill. That ship has sailed.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 08:55 PM
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be wealthy travel a lot look presentable for social media -- either just good looking or fit a certain popular type e.g. business man, rapper not want kids
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 08:53 PM
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I care about the quantity of women like this. And it's not like they instantly reveal themselves. You can date one for months or even years til it turns out that she thought you had the potential to become super successful but now it looks like you won't or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 08:49 PM
1

When you see this lifestyle every day and it's normalized and almost the expectation on social media, I'm not sure what other plausible reason there would be for social media raising expectations.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 08:43 PM
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And yet women in the dating pool demand it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 08:39 PM
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If you can't distinguish between observation and feel, then yes. And I wouldn't be surprised.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 08:37 PM
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You're hung up on the word demand. Figures. Now we can play word games; does demand entail wants you haven't fully internalized? Is it demand when you buy items you don't fully understand your desire for? Do you demand a certain type of man when you sooner or later reject all others? Just get tf out, man.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 08:31 PM
1

Tell us you fit my description to a tee without telling us.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 08:25 PM
2

The argument that social media has massively raised expectations in the dating market is "very very specific" to you... lol. Lmao even.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 08:22 PM
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This is such a meme argument. Dislike thing = actually like thing. Good luck with that in life, Ms. Contradiction.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 08:18 PM
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So it's not that "ALL WOMEN" it's "some women" The people in this thread who needed help figuring this out are absolutely amazing. Yes, it's a highly significant amount, but not all. Wink wink! We both have rudimentary statistical intuition. Give yourself a pat on the back. This what Red Pill calls "Nexting" and it works great and saves everyone time. So you're assuming a girl will tell you flat out, "you don't make enough money for me." "You don't fit any social media archetypes." "You don't tr…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 08:14 PM
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The first rule of the tautology club... Now all we have to figure out is if that number has grown significantly.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 07:57 PM
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Didn't even need the meddy. No, I'm not looking for a woman who is wealthy, good looking, always on vacation and social media ready all at once. And I don't even think my bar for what I consider attractive in terms of looks has been raised but that's really difficult to assess. I mean, 90s models and actresses look better to me than any influencers -- maybe the bar is actually getting lower.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 07:55 PM
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Most people date close to their socioeconomic level Out of necessity, and not with serious intent as if the current partner were "the one." I didn't just go on social media and generalize what I saw there. I think we're all suffering from change blindness. Dating standards have been raised dramatically over the last decade, though I'd wager it started with the 2008 housing crash (raising the bar for income necessary to support housing and family) and social media just amplified it. Most women I …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 07:50 PM
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That's true. Being a real influencer isn't that chased. The lifestyle influencers show, however...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 07:39 PM
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Genuinely, no. I'm noticing this pattern irl and so are people I'm close to. I'm attributing this to social media (and some of the wealth part to the housing market), which isn't exactly novel, but that doesn't make it less important.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 07:37 PM
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It goes without saying that this argument is statistical and not absolute. At least so I thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 07:34 PM
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Why are you so convinced that contradictory beliefs must be at the core of the issues one raises? Projection?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 07:32 PM
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It's not. It's the embarrassed millionaire stage.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 07:22 PM
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It’s about not rewarding people you don’t like. This is equivalent to "just keep looking for better women bro." Sure. You could say that when 99% of all women were pure gold diggers. That doesn't make it helpful. It just dodges the issue. Most women are not married to men who send them around the world in designer cocktail dresses. Most women seem content with a man who can make her laugh and make her feel safe in his arms. Selection bias, first of all. The women who did marry, are the ones who …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 07:14 PM
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Absolutely not but thanks for the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 06:55 PM
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Cool story. About 3% men fulfill that. So less than 3% of women can have it. Good luck with that advice, everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 06:53 PM
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After a certain age sure. But in their prime dating years (based on when people marry if they ever marry), which are probably also the prime social media usage years, women go to college, maybe work part time. Though it depends where you're from, I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 06:51 PM
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5-7% seems super low to me but it's hard to talk numbers. I wouldn't classify on a person to person basis anyway. Everyone is on the spectrum. Some are affected more. But almost everyone is affected. If social media were dominated by blue collar content creators, a resounding Yes to working average jobs, I think things would look very different on the dating market.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 06:47 PM
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I addressed this point in the post. The desire for the lifestyle isn't new but the expectation of it has increased dramatically. I feel like you can convince yourself you're the prize all you want, at the end of the day for a woman to date you seriously, with serious thoughts about settling and considering you as contender for "the one," you'll more often than not have to meet the criteria I listed. Another factor playing into this polarization is increased housing prices, which have raised the …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 06:39 PM
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Correct. I kind of see the red and blue pill born out of this raised bar of expectations, which comes from (1) social media and (2) insane housing cost. The blue pill would be to submit to those expectations and make sacrifices all over the place so you can invest in this kind of lifestyle on your partner's behalf. And the red pill would be a rejection of it, with stuff like demanding your partner to get off social media, or going for women who aren't on it in the first place or who aren't influ…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 06:27 PM
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I mean that they want the lifestyle per se, which doesn't necessarily include the constant sharing of that lifestyle on social media. i.e. living the sweet influencer life without being a real influencer.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 06:19 PM
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Insist. You both want back. She's being cautious. Your job is to comfort her and be assertive. "We both would regret it more if we never meet again."
/r/seduction03/04/24 05:27 PM
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I like your guerilla style of shooting infields because everyone can do that. A body cam plus blur filter in post would obviously be better for growing your channel but what you're doing is showing all those wannabe PUA writers that they have zero excuses for their lack of infields & receipts. Is the rate of fucks and shits in your language an intentional rapport thing or is it just how you talk?
/r/seduction03/04/24 05:19 PM
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To give you a real opinion I'd need pics.
/r/seduction03/04/24 04:35 PM
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That woman isn't special -- many post breakup girls are like that knows exactly what she's doing is using you thinks you're her free therapist wants to feed (and "heal") her ego off you will waste all your time can be gone any moment -- as soon as she finds her next bf she'll be willing to pull the carpet from under your feet "because her bf doesn't want her to see other men" -- or she'll keep you around as an even bigger cu​ck and third wheel but the type of your friendship will change either w…
/r/seduction03/04/24 03:44 PM
2

You never said that. You said you're the one asking to meet.
/r/seduction15/03/24 02:57 AM
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it’s also completely wild that the women they invite on these podcasts etc are unlike any woman i’ve associated with.. They invite women who make for a good show & drama. the biggest hearted and most loyal ladies i know are appalled and disgusted by the mentality... The red pill isn't aimed at those women if they're the biggest hearted most loyal ones you know. TRP is a struggle against cheating, loose, narcissistic, deluded and at times straight up evil women. What exactly did your loyal ladies…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 09:50 PM
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Never IG close. IG is for men of the needy/simp class and your dm will be drowned out by the many approval events (likes, comments, dms) the girl gets there. Getting her number and into her phone dms is much better -- a much more personal space reserved for friends, family and lovers. You say you vibe when you do cold approach. You know, the girl should still understand that you're hitting on her. It's just smoother to do that over body language and subtext. But if you ever feel like she's not g…
/r/seduction14/03/24 09:32 PM
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I know you totally kept that a secret. It's a rhetoric question anyway. We all know the answer.
/r/seduction14/03/24 08:56 PM
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No long con stuff. Just pretty normal convo with good eye contact, smiles and body language that lets her know. Find out a little about each other that's not just 'where do u live', 'what do u do.' Generally affirm stuff she tells you about herself (being in HR is totes cool), maybe throw in a push (firing people aint so nice). Then go with your best judgement of how hard you should push. If the girl is difficult but you get to use an excuse to # close her, do it ("we should try to merge our gro…
/r/seduction14/03/24 05:18 PM
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because she feels like they didn’t notice her. Or because the man didn't get nervous like all the other spergs.
/r/seduction14/03/24 04:13 PM
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Yes, direct cold approach, plus some extra pre-selection. I just think that's over the top. And you're letting the girl make the decision for you sooner than you need to and under worse conditions for you than would be the case if you did a little bit of comfort building and normal/funny conversation. You can easily do that without disqualifying yourself sexually. You can be flirty without all the aggression and forwardness. The best zone you can be in is right below a girl's threshold for "he's…
/r/seduction14/03/24 03:40 PM
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Do you think board gaming is an attractive hobby? Then you'd be the exception, cause nerd girls are so much rarer than nerd guys. It is currently quantitatively unsound to advise nerd guys to pursue their hobbies and find girls there. That's probably why you suggest finding new (more attractive) hobbies. You know, the ones that keep you in shape, expose you to non-nerds, people who know what the sky looks like, and girls. Which is the opposite of the 'be yourself' advice we hear so often. 'Chang…
/r/seduction14/03/24 03:21 PM
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Only reason I'm responding to you is so other people reading this can be helped by this info. Is this another one of your cringe exercises? Semantics, not gonna address Can't even read a joke. That's the level of Aspergers I'm talking to... This can happen when you talk to any girl at any time at any bar. This has nothing specifically to do with the post. It has everything to do with a LE REALISTIC worst case scenario. You just forgot to include it. Or are you saying this isn't the primary reaso…
/r/seduction14/03/24 04:33 AM
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every female I didn't say every. And I didn't say female. You've lost the plot. I won't bother to look up the guru you keep shilling for. You're done.
/r/seduction14/03/24 04:17 AM
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The median redditor isn't lacking in passions. They're just unbearably nerdy passions + gaming. Nerd passions tend to be antisocial too, not the kind where you go out and meet people who like the same stuff.
/r/seduction14/03/24 04:12 AM
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You didn't say REALISTIC. You said (realistic). A common one would be flirting with a girl from a mixed group and having an angry, drunk guy come after your ass soon after. Fun adrenaline rush. You better know what to do -- it's not always the same. You can do much worse in front of an audience than what you chose. Do it in front of your class instead of a library where you know nobody. Do it in a dense space where people actually hear you, like a bus. And then fail spectacularly. Again, I'm not…
/r/seduction14/03/24 04:02 AM
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You're way too liberal with your interpretation of what OP said. He very clearly stated you should 'aim to be rejected as quickly as possible,' which means maximum forwardness. Whether she wants to engage in the interaction on those terms or not is up to her This take it or leave it mindset is plain stupid -- most girls will leave it. So you have to turn into an approach machine to find the few girls who take it, before they even know anything about you. You're letting girls go before you've eve…
/r/seduction14/03/24 03:49 AM
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Just a general point about audience anxiety. Sitting in a library after an approach is in no way the worst case scenario. I don't think your post has any real worst case scenarios in it. Just somewhat uncomfortable ones. But I also wouldn't recommend to actually try and summon worst case scenarios on your college campus...
/r/seduction14/03/24 03:37 AM
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Where did he say that he was unwilling to do anything you said? By saying you should push for rejections asap. That means you'll only get the girls who are into you from the start.
/r/seduction14/03/24 03:20 AM
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I've seen people have panic attacks during presentations. It's bad, even from an audience POV. Not just in an empathic way. It's actually bad for your rep/social status. Fuck ups during dating are different because dating is a one-on-one interaction.
/r/seduction14/03/24 01:51 AM
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Aim to be rejected as quickly as possible guys that sit in the friendzone waiting to make a move for months or years on end because they are so terrified of being rejected While friendzoned men may be on one extreme end of the spectrum, you are on the opposite end of it. You advocate for a pure numbers game, on repeat, with all this pre-selection of exclusively pursuing girls who give you the easiest time. You don't even know 25% of game if you're unwilling to work through difficult sets, win fr…
/r/seduction14/03/24 01:34 AM
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What you're describing is not toxicity but the willingness to walk...
/r/seduction13/03/24 07:38 PM
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Sure. Anything that helps you make friends. Communities, clubs, activities, sports, pubs, night life,... One night stands will happen anyway when you're dating for a gf. But you can't really become that guy in a small town and do approaches on the daily. Cause you're not anonymous like a big city PUA. You'll get a bad rep. You don't have the quantity of girls to use for 'training' your cold approach skills to get to a level where you could do PUA stuff without ruining your reputation. That's why…
/r/seduction13/03/24 07:31 PM
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Small towns are built for maximizing your social circle and shooting for relationships.
/r/seduction09/03/24 04:50 PM
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These are all random odds that I just made up, but it proves the point. Unfathomably based
/r/seduction07/03/24 04:41 PM
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https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ick I'd go further and say that icky traits are disliked traits where the dislike for them is hard to rationalize. Like gaming. It doesn't hurt anyone. But it's going to be a waste of time, brain power, adrenaline -- and a source of addiction. Minecraft speed runners pursue an icky thing to the extreme, such that they become the best in the world, but they still won't be rewarded for it. GDQ, the biggest speed running event, has all the money go to…
/r/seduction07/03/24 03:43 PM
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You underestimate how many icky personality traits and interests most men are hiding. Go sperg out about gaming, memes, politics, your self-help journey and soon enough nobody is going to invite you ever again. You can be a world famous Minecraft speed runner and still get no lays. Naturals are just good looking normies with non-nerdy interests, who learned from experience.
/r/seduction07/03/24 12:59 AM
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If a woman says that you are the father and you think you are not, then you two can settle this. By God, you truly are blue pilled. I bow.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 03:46 PM
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I could say the same about your previous comment ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 03:38 PM
1

Nice analysis, totally agree. I really don't know where this defeatist idea came from There are studies which show that this is true. I think some academic ones and many DIY ones where people compare the matches of Chad profiles with horrible bios and average guy profiles with great bios -- no girl reads the bios. I've watched girls use dating apps too, that's just how it is. Not saying average guys can't get like 50 matches. My point has been that women are swimming in bigger pools of good look…
/r/seduction06/03/24 03:13 PM
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During the party you would have found out what the girl's buttons are, what she likes to hear, what's interesting to her, what you find interesting about her. And there'd be specific things you did and things that happened at the party. So you'd generally use the best you can think of from the above, compressed into a message that's still normal size & makes the relationship you two have seem special. Just understand what you're up against. We have three possible outcomes: Girl agrees to date yo…
/r/seduction06/03/24 03:07 PM
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Totally rad how you'd fit into that very small sample size given your first comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 01:40 AM
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Well then the solution is self-evident: use more compliments and lines to say "you're hot." Anything from "you're cute" to "I want to do coke off your tits." "I like your style/ear rings/whatever" is also a common one -- less direct, decent as opener, but don't make it your only line.
/r/seduction06/03/24 12:28 AM
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If you hadn't stopped reading at 'dating apps' you'd know that I'm not blaming PUA for anything.
/r/seduction06/03/24 12:13 AM
2

You sure you didn't make these up? These are extremely unusual, rude and elaborate responses from the women. Women don't put that much effort into saying no.
/r/seduction06/03/24 12:07 AM
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What could women even do to AVOID this? A certain expectation of monogamy solves this equation easily. Good looking men will be taken by good looking women. Mid girls and guys will generally have to match. And nobody wants to be a left over.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 12:01 AM
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Nobody can help you if you're not being specific.
/r/seduction05/03/24 11:42 PM
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Men: Say they all like the same conventionally attractive women but will actually date a large variety, much of that because they have no conv attr women interested in them Women: Say they like a large variety of men, tend to date the same Chad types Of course that's upsetting.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 11:36 PM
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Which ones do you use
/r/seduction05/03/24 11:22 PM
3

I am employing the flirting "tactics" taught here which ones
/r/seduction05/03/24 11:19 PM
1

My Hegelian prediction is some sort of Islamic revolution in Europe and some sort of Weimar revolution in North America will shake up any predictions that we could make based on current trend extrapolation.
/r/seduction05/03/24 11:08 PM
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If you want to maximize your results you're spot on, in combination with day and night game. Though my main point, regardless of whether you use the apps, is that you should always be aware how dating apps have changed dating and women's expectations and that you should be prepared for drama and being dumped, flaked on, ghosted in ways that old PUAs didn't have to.
/r/seduction05/03/24 10:11 PM
2

You just LARP as someone living in 2010 then?
/r/seduction05/03/24 09:52 PM
1

Hello Vinegar Tits. President@gmails here. Did you know that girls can be the ones to propose follow up dates after getting romped?
/r/seduction05/03/24 08:58 PM
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At least you're getting decent upvotes.
/r/seduction05/03/24 08:18 PM
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IOI might be a misnomer here. Men consciously show interest by taking action, saying things outright, initiating flirts. It's not a good idea to give little hints as man. Btw, IOIs from girls aren't things they do consciously, they're supposed to be unintentional, like getting big eyes, stroking hair. If it's done consciously, it's a hint. Men shouldn't play the hint game. And men can't help themselves but give their own subconscious IOIs anyway, like looking at the girl way more than anything e…
/r/seduction05/03/24 07:44 PM
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You're right and the criticisms you're getting for this post are frankly ridiculous. Men don't behave the same way. Men will almost always agree to meet. What could happen is that the guy doesn't initiate the texting and neither does the girl, so the disinterest is mutual. But even then, if the girl dms the guy a month later, the guy will be happy to date -- whereas if you text a girl one month after meeting her at a party you're going to be shunned as creep. The ghosting phenomenon also isn't e…
/r/seduction05/03/24 07:36 PM
2

You probably don't have enough data to tell that you're worse at it all else being equal (meaning you do the same amount of day and night game, you know the same amount of nuts and bolts for both, etc.)
/r/seduction05/03/24 06:53 PM
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You just got decent at masking your game, a point I recognized. It's unclear what you're taking issue with at this point. Pickup has obviously gained a larger audience and 'dating advice' content is abundant compared to the old days. 80% of your set should be normal conversation (comfort). 20% should be value (e.g. game) sprinkled in Whatever you say. Great. I'm not trying to explain your experience or mine. I'm proposing an overarching mechanism behind most of the 'bad' developments the communi…
/r/seduction05/03/24 05:01 PM
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The existence of pickup is extremely well known, not individual techniques. If no woman called you out on it, you're either lying or haven't talked to many. It's furthermore well known among men and has therefore given rise to various snake oil salesmen, which is the bigger point here. Todd V Opinion dismissed. You're giving yourself a handicap by not having an online dating profile. You're also not able to undo the fact that women have their own profiles and it influences their expectations and…
/r/seduction05/03/24 04:41 PM
1

So you can't defend your assertions. Good chat.
/r/seduction05/03/24 04:26 PM
1

You underestimate how misogynistic the old PUA community was. That's another problem with the sticky too. self pity and the decrease in personal accountability Depends what you mean. These sound like assertions, not facts. What you call self-pity I might call desperation. What you call lack of accountability I might call recognition of variables outside of your control.
/r/seduction05/03/24 04:08 PM
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as night went on we exchanged details and she expressed how much she would like to see me again and that I should message her the next day. I ended up messaging her when I got home and the next day all to radio silence and then getting blocked on socials. That's extremely weird on her part and not your fault. What should you change? Nothing. Sounds like you did everything right but the girl has other issues. Ok, it's possible that your profile pic is extremely bad or something, which she saw, th…
/r/seduction04/03/24 04:50 PM
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"My friend died" always works, good convo starter
/r/seduction04/03/24 04:31 PM
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Bringing sweets to night clubs is a lifehack only a chosen few know about.
/r/seduction03/03/24 09:09 PM
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women just have shit game regards, president@gmails
/r/seduction03/03/24 01:28 AM
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Sorry OP, but the dance floor is just real life Tinder. All us men can do is circle women (usually 5-10 men circling two girls) and hope that they like our looks. When the women ignore you, it means rejection. When they keep accidentally bumping and grinding into you, it means they choose you. It's really like the bees and their queens when you think about it.
/r/seduction02/03/24 11:39 PM
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They love this puzzle. He's giving me so many compliments but I can never tell if he means it. How mysterious. Am I wanted? Am I being used for sex? He's either totally into me or he's a totally confident liar. And they kind of want you to be able to lie this way. That's attractive. It means you can lie your way through some other things in life.
/r/seduction02/03/24 04:50 PM
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When a woman is going to like you in the near future, you won't know -- in which OP tells you how to be a quitter A better title for this post. Noping out of any set at the slightest inconvenience is the kind of malignant perfectionism that's going to get you zero results, ever. She made poor eye contact?... run! If anything, men who go on reddit for answers on why they aren't getting romantic results (social anxiety, low confidence,...) need to try way, way harder. Working through difficult set…
/r/seduction02/03/24 04:40 PM
1

I know what a warm approach is but what is a hot one? When you already hooked up in the past? :\<sup>)</sup>
/r/seduction11/10/21 02:52 AM
1

Sounds interesting. I don't read blogs. Dm me some? :)
/r/seduction11/10/21 02:49 AM
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Early makeouts are based. kiss five girls in one night this way Figures. But part of this story is that you didn't pull the first four. You can fuck up the tension if you make it too easy to kiss you. Ask me how I know. You gotta keep 50% of the endorphins in the girl's head waiting, anticipating - to be released when you have sex.
/r/seduction11/10/21 02:47 AM
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but it took serious guts to do that anyway You kind of answer your own question there.
/r/seduction11/10/21 01:04 AM
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Probably a shit test. It doesn't really matter how you pass it, just make sure that it doesn't phase you. Sounds like you got in your head a bit. Did she ever outright say she thought you're gay? Or did she only ask you to meet her male friend?
/r/seduction03/10/21 12:08 PM
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