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I don’t think you understood my point. I’m not disbelieving that lifting gets guys more attention. I’m saying that there is a limited range for people to looksmax to. It’s the same for women - Chad’s/Stacy’s are largely determined by their facial structure. No amount of lifting or dieting can turn a 4 into a 9. Lifting adds a max of 2 points IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 09:45 PM
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Yes, agreed that lifting is the advice because it’s actionable..
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 07:20 AM
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Ok but do you get what I’m really saying here? A man with a muscular body isn’t the most attractive man. True Chad’s are tall, pretty boys; muscles are a “nice to have”. Look at how wet women get for Jim Morrison.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 07:04 AM
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That guy looks like he has a good body (from a woman’s perspective)... lean, nice arms etc 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 06:39 AM
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I don’t know that we can conclude this from that study. Do you mean “muscular/strong bodies are the most attractive when all other factors of men are exactly the same”? What I’m trying to say is that a man’s height, face, vibe make up 90% of his attraction IMO and maybe the remaining 10% is his torso.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 06:29 AM
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How can anyone really say when someone else is compromising though? It’s subjective.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 09:24 PM
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Everyone settles though? In every situation that requires a choice, someone is “settling”.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 05:55 AM
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It's about control.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/20 06:42 PM
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Fertility isn’t the same as libido...? Men’s libido peaks at 19, for women it’s mid 30s. https://www.futurity.org/female-sex-drive-soars-as-fertility-declines/
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 10:37 PM
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The most exaggerated example is when a guy shows zero interest and in fact is quite mean to the girl, yet she chooses not only to pursue him but also to have sex. What is going on here? Google the avoidant and anxious attachment style dance 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 10:20 PM
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It’s not anecdotal, women’s libido peaks in mid-late 30s.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 05:13 AM
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She shared a pic of her eye once, 2 years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 06:37 PM
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Baaaaabe 😍😍
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 11:10 AM
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There are less of those men is what I’m saying. It’s less likely for men to earn less than women so of course it’s less likely women date men who earn less.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 06:36 PM
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There was no backstreet boy called Justin, duh 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 09:52 PM
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That’s only because men still earn more than women on average. I’m not talking about the wage gap (which isn’t real) btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 09:49 PM
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I'm nearly 40lbs overweight and diabetic. Because you eat too much for your TDEE, and probably the wrong types of foods too. Anyways, I know you probs know this - it's just a difficult thing for us all to do, so I feel you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 10:15 AM
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That guy isn’t eating enough. 80% of gains (and losses) are made in the kitchen - share a video of his diet.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 06:03 AM
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We believe orgasms exist but the whole point of science is to understand how something that exists works. There is no dispute that women have orgasms - the dispute is in how women have orgasms. it can't be said that she orgasms from penetration At this point, it feels like you're being purposefully obtuse. The original claim was "Plenty of women orgasm from penetration (dick alone)". That is patently false. Here's are some links you can read: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5087699/…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 11:59 AM
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there are lots of things we believe exist without needing its biological effects mapped out or even understood. Can you please give some examples? So why are we not (or are we not?) believing that women can experience orgasm via penetration only? Because a woman saying that she experiences orgasm from penetration is a claim that needs to be supported with evidence through experiments (aka the scientific method). The myth of women having different orgasms (vaginal vs clitoral) was perpetuated by …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 11:06 AM
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All you are proving is how terrible you are in bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 10:50 AM
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Unfortunately, that's not a solid method for understanding how something really works. Do you believe the Earth is flat too?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 08:29 AM
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Still, that’s not what the poster above was claiming. He literally said “dick alone”.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 07:24 AM
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Define “plenty”? It’s 30%.. Additionally, orgasm from penetration alone has not even been proven to be true (versus as a result of clitoral stimulation).
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 07:07 AM
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The marriage rates have also dropped precipitously as things have gotten more egalitarian. So? Why is this a bad thing? And the reason is that women prefer men of a higher status than themselves. Men have no such preference. The reason is that women have equal rights to men and no longer need to marry to survive. My question was if women would prefer it Do preferences really matter? Men would say that they prefer fucking 18 year olds and yet look who men marry - women within 1-3 years of their o…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 07:24 PM
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Do you know any developed societies where most women prefer their partner be less educated and make less than them? The data shows that in almost every developed country, as we all become more egalitarian, women date men with less education and earnings than themselves. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5421994/ Women don’t choose men to be providers anymore. I fail to see how this is a bad thing for men. Isn’t it better to be alone than to be used?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 07:21 AM
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Which ones specifically? Can you share a link to the stats?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 09:14 PM
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That isn't what the data of millions of users of online dating say. How do you know that?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 08:30 PM
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I think these are made up too tbh. I’ve never seen a woman on ppd say these - they are evo psych references that 90% of women don’t care to even think about and they reek of incel/TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 06:46 AM
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I’m sure you are scared about a lot of things going wrong with a partner/relationship too... No one is perfect, and what you call a “fresh start” sounds boring to me, personally. You can have your preferences, sure, but to make out that you’re “paying” for anything when a woman is trying to get to know you enough to trust you, sounds ridiculous. You said “you can’t convince them you want something real with them” - what does “real” mean in this context exactly? Did you mean a caring, intimate re…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 06:14 AM
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Many Women's Dating Profiles are Missing the Point?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 06:55 PM
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I was more referring to women that are inclined to have sex with diffrent men often and are more open about it in terms of promiscuity compared to women that dont You know that's under 10% of women, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 06:51 PM
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How am I gaslighting you? Can you share any of the studies, please?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 11:24 PM
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Please explain what 80/20 means.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 10:59 PM
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This is what bothers me about TRP - there are no clear definitions of anything. Everything is non-falsifiable and any argument against it, even with quantitative data, is a strawman.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 10:45 PM
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Where is the 20/80 coming from is the question? It honestly seems like an arbitrary % split that was chosen to match Pareto by people who don’t know what that actually means.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 10:41 PM
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That’s not what the Pareto principle even is.. Pareto is that you get 80% of the results from 20% of the effort/labor. TRPs “20% of men get 80% of the sex” is obviously (and objectively) incorrect when 70% of men reported having had sex in the last year. It seems like the real Pareto at play here is that 80% of a man’s results depends on only a small number of things. I’m betting it would be looksmaxing and simply leaving one’s house.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 10:23 PM
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Men are also higher in narcissism, which leads them to speak over others instead of actually genuinely listening...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 04:44 AM
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Did you ever ask?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 03:14 AM
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You need to remove the youngest and oldest men out of this. It’s going to be a lot less than 5000.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 06:47 AM
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It astounds me how rarely this point is discussed here.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 11:58 PM
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That doesn’t mean they “fuck them in a bathroom at a house party”
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 09:42 PM
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I get it, even with online dating, I don't see why you need to invest much early on. The first few dates should be a coffee or a casual beer somewhere and that's enough to get a sense of someone's character. I'd hate to go on a dinner date as a first date, they're stiff and awkward.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 02:41 PM
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“Shit tests” are what socially-adjusted people call BANTER and FLIRTING.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 05:49 AM
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Is online dating the only way to date?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 05:39 AM
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I don’t know that anyone could ever be in the same league as Shakespeare, and most literary snobs would agree with that, but the rest is your personal opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 05:38 AM
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The better question is why do you think there’s a lesser likelihood of divorce among those with less premarital sex partners? Because those people are RELIGIOUS!!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 12:21 AM
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Why did your friend date a sexually and emotionally broken woman in the first place? This victim complex and passivity in you and your friend makes me physically sick. Who do you think is in control of where and with whom you spend your time?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 11:44 PM
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I mean that how can you not tell the difference between a woman that genuinely likes you as a person and wants to spend time with you, versus a woman that is using you for a free dinner? Do you really think you don’t have any agency or responsibility in this? If you’re as scared as you are of potentially having to pay for a woman’s dinner, don’t you think there is quite a lot you can control yourself to avoid that from ever happening? Like, for example, not taking every single fucking woman to d…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 11:38 PM
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How can you honestly not tell? It bewilders me when men say this. Can you give specific examples of how a woman took advantage of you?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 11:25 PM
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Great writing and poetry requires deep feeling and empathy, and a solid understanding of human nature. While there are some terrific female writers (Jane Austin for instance), men far outclass women in this regard. There is no female Shakespeare, Dylan Thomas, Herman Melville, or Rilke. There isn't a woman writer in that zip-code. George Eliot, Mary Shelley, Charlotte Bronte, Virginia Woolf, Sylvia Plath, Simone de Beauvoir, should I continue...? Great writing and poetry requires deep feeling an…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 11:14 PM
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So that fact that something occurs at all, even only once, means that you avoid the environment it might occur in completely? And that’s it? That’s how you make your decision? How do you leave your house knowing that you’re going to be hit by a car, raped or murdered, or even struck by lightning? Do you not shower to avoid drowning too?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 10:50 PM
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what if she just pair-bonded to him really hard? Can anyone please share a single link that has significant support for the claim that humans pair bond? Bonding through sex is definitely a thing especially for women (even more for inexperienced women). OP, why do you think inexperienced women would “bond” more? Why do you think that even women bond more than men through sex? What has lead you to these beliefs? Are they opinion, “common sense”, or something else?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 10:38 PM
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You can google the term dinner whores and it shows up as the top most search selection. If this is the way that you are validating how FREQUENTLY it occurs or how COMMON it is, then you need to seriously revisit your personal knowledge of statistics.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 10:15 PM
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fuck the quarterback in the bathroom at a house party This is cope; the projection of male sexuality onto women, knowing that women are far, far more prudish.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 10:07 AM
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So.. so are OP's? You have a really weird understanding of "subjective" versus "objective". Pro-tip: just because someone's subjective opinion aligns with your personal experience, doesn't make it objective truth. Solipsism. noun. The view or theory that the self is all that can be known to exist. Maybe check your own "red", glass house before you throw stones.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 07:41 AM
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No movie has ever spoken to the life experience of men in this nation like American Beauty. Watch it again for the experience of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 08:46 PM
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Why is it so hard for men to be honest about what they're asking for? Y'all don't ask "what type of guy would you fuck on a first date?" because you KNOW that you'd lower your chances. Why is it SO hard for men to be honest with THEMSELVES about what women want? WOMEN DON'T WANT TO BE A FUCK-BUDDY. The highest value of a woman is wife and mother (largely set by men). When you ask a woman "what do you want?", she's answering with "guy I could happily marry and trust he's a good father"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 05:59 PM
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Adam Driver has wild sex appeal. I honestly think that most men would dramatically improve their game if they skipped through the first season of Girls, to watch all the scenes he appears in. Christian Bale is my ideal celeb crush though. Edit: I'm a sucker for the tall, dark, handsome trope but more rugged/grittier. I really don't find "Clean-cut Chad" attractive, but that's the type of guy that 90% of my girlfriends will all go after.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 07:46 PM
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she’s rude and insufferable? Pretty much. /u/a_username88 said it well above "come off as overly competitive, contrarian, snobbish" Why did you put quotes around “mean”? The quotes were (somehow) meant to say that it might seem like she is purposefully coming across in the way she does, like a mean person would, however I genuinely think she just lacks the self-awareness and experience of actually flirting with men. I think she gets nervous, which puts her into a very defensive state. There have…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 07:33 PM
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Weekly as in once a week? Again, I’m really sorry. It’s heart-breaking to read stories like this and honestly freaks me the hell out.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 10:18 PM
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I’m sorry :( that sounds really awful. I know it sounds like a platitude but I’m genuinely curious - were there signs before you married of the deadbedrooms? And would you try marriage therapy or it’s too far gone now?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 09:57 PM
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Going off the national studies, roughly 70% self-report being happily married. I doubt 70% of single people would report that tbh, as it seems that happy, healthy people marry.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 09:54 PM
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They’re 30% max for first time marriages. You can get it to 20% if you both have a bachelors degree and marry after 30. The 50% stat includes people who are on their second, third, forth, etc marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 07:26 PM
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I mean dominant, not sadist How do you define dominant exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 04:34 PM
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You aren’t the same person at 30. Men especially age and get more masculine. You all look like twinky simps at 18 and I’d bet that most men look better at 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 06:04 AM
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You don’t know why they rejected you and your looks are probably the smallest part of it. Which women did you pursue at 18? How did you know them? Were you personality-wise any different at 18 than 30? Hypothetical questions to help you see that people are like nature: fluid and constantly changing.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 12:08 AM
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This isn’t true for multiple reasons. Young women have lower libido. A woman’s sexual desire and attraction for men increases with age and peaks in her mid 30s. It’s basically undisputed at this point in the data - women are most attracted to men their own age. It’s laughably unrealistic to think that the women who rejected you at 18 are the same ones who reject you at 30. 30 year old women are more attracted to you than the 18 year olds are, and be honest with yourself, look at the marriages th…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 11:00 PM
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Does TRP "seem to be reasonable people" to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 03:47 PM
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Or because a woman’s libido peaks in her 30s and she’s horny lol..
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 05:32 AM
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We don’t care about 1 or 2 or 3 people “out there”, we’re constantly talking about social trends and the majority. When a woman has dated a guy and stayed single for some time after, what is the major reason for that? How common is the alpha widows case % wise? Maybe it does happen but it’s such an edge case that it’s not even worth discussing. I’m 95% certain it’s partially a romantic fantasy that men need to tell themselves, whereas the red pill is that all women will forget you and replace yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/20 07:34 AM
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That’s not what I mean. TRP has the What correct but I don’t believe they’ve got the Why correct (like always). The What: some women appear to stay single and not date after a relationship with an attractive man, sometimes for years. The Why: she was “alpha widowed” and is still pining her Chad ex. Fake news IMO. The more likely case is that she got fucked around by that ex in some way and lost her confidence. She’s not pining the ex so much as avoiding getting hurt again by someone new. She’s e…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/20 02:05 AM
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Women don’t think like this (unfortunately for men). Being heartbroken lasts a few weeks or months, even years sometimes, but we all move on and actually eventually forget past relationships completely. If anything, this is projection of either the way men compare their relationships to each other or the way that men wish they were remembered by women (aka blue pill myths like any other). I would bet in > 90% of cases, IF a woman reflects on a past guy she dated, she would be laughing to herself…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/20 01:12 AM
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Ah shit, sorry I’m on mobile and commented to the wrong person originally.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 05:59 PM
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Right (or something like that) but I think the other commenter is arguing against marriage, so I’m curious as to the alternatives. I don’t really give a fuck about marriage truthfully, but it does worry me about having children with someone and being left with the financial burden.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 05:51 PM
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What financial protection would you put in place for the child, assuming that either partner can leave?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 04:52 PM
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What do you think women / couples should do regarding children?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 02:55 PM
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I'm not attacking you, I'm helping you. "Pretentious people" look down on others and believe themselves to be on some greater level. That's what you come across like yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 11:16 AM
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Nobody likes pretentious people. Look in the mirror.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 11:00 AM
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The argument isn't "why do men want to date younger women?", it's "why do older women respond in the way that they do?" And it's for the reasons that I said. If men weren't constantly communicating with effectively "26+ year old women are trash", then those women might not respond with the attitude of "good luck getting that 18 year old and having a lasting relationship with her"
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 10:59 AM
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less likely to be able to pairbond with the guy they get into an LTR with. Pseudoscience. JFC.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 10:21 AM
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Yes, that alone is easy to "get". What we don't get are: Why a 26+ year old is "used up" Why a single 26+ year old must have something wrong with her Why a 26+ year old must have consistently being pumped and dumped by Chad's in her past Why a 26+ year old who potentially now has a few years experience in her career is "insufferable" Why a 26+ year old being honest and stating that she is dating to find a partner for children has "demands and expectations" And so on..
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 09:18 AM
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Have you ever taken LSD? Not a drug for fucking tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 06:16 PM
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Are you sure you're not just taking the variability of IQ and lazily assuming that it applies to everything?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 04:32 PM
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I thought of that book too. There is a line like "there's no point pretending our relationship would work if our record collections wouldn't get along"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 06:15 PM
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Go read the actual IFS studies again. Having exactly 2 partners was a higher risk than having 10+ partners up until only recently. That shows that there is obviously a lot more impacting divorce than the number of partners. It’s obvious isn’t it? People who marry as virgins are heavily religious and stay together because of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 06:32 AM
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What are you even talking about sorry? I mean that men marry women who are 1-5 years younger than themselves. That means that the majority of 30-35 year old men (marrying age) are marrying women of a similar age.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 10:32 PM
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almost never date older women. It's pretty rare. It's not though - look at the statistical data of who is marrying and their ages. The majority of men MARRY between 1-5 years of their age, which means they're marrying "older" women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 05:51 PM
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you suddenly find yourself dating down for the first time ever. This is where I disagree. I've had LTR's with legit Chad's and LTR's with men who were objectively 2 points lower SMV than me. I think good, "normal" relationships are all fairly similar to each other and they break down in the same ways, regardless of physical attraction. IMO having a sexy partner can never compete with having someone that you emotionally connect to and intimately communicate with. male interest drops off signifiga…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 04:30 PM
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I think there definitely is a valid idea of a “smaller pool” as everyone is generally already married or already in relationships with the person they’re going to marry at 30. I personally don’t notice any difference though; there are too many people on the planet now. If you live in a big city, you’re never going to have a shortage of options for meeting men, and if you’ve had LTRs in the past, chances are that you have a personality that men like to commit to.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 04:53 AM
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I honestly don’t get it though - historically, it was soldiers who went after “enemy lines’ women”. Why are women the only ones abandoning their countries in this case?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 04:23 AM
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I'm genuinely bewildered as to why my comment triggered you so much that you felt you had to reply in the way that you did.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/20 07:31 PM
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Many are seriously marrying unreasonable, disloyal, borthesome and unsatisfying women, willingly nowadays. And an increasing number aren't. How do you know that the marriage rates aren't lower because of men opting out too?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/20 06:39 PM
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“The woman is more boring in any given couple” “if you have absolutely any standards for what you want in a partner and I don’t meet them, you’re a bitch” Way to just “look down on everyone else in a serious non joking way” in your own damn comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/20 08:20 AM
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Define "standards" Please show how this is a behavior exclusive to women People's standards for looks actually decrease and their standards for compatibility/values/personality/lifestyle increase, as they get older. Once you've had a few LTRs and lived together, you come to learn that not even Chad or Stacy's pretty face are enough to make a relationship work.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/20 11:32 AM
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You can do better than wikipedia.... The question is, can you?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/20 09:01 AM
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I'm sorry for your experience but respectfully that doesn't say anything about the statistical distribution of ages that women start menopause. 95+% of women start menopause > 40. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Menopause
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/20 08:53 AM
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You friends were straight up lying or you misunderstood. No woman goes through menopause at 38.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/20 07:12 AM
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What are you measuring that by exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/20 06:45 AM
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lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 07:05 PM
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Jesus dude, the results weren’t significant! There were no differences between the 3 groups! You found this study to confirm you’re bias that women lie and you’re totally skipping over the real results.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 07:06 AM
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They don't address how much one would change their number. You don't know if numbers are changed at all. It's an assumption based on your feelings. Look, every self-reported study suffers from a lack of validity, I'm not even arguing that. What I'm arguing, is why you/men believe that only the studies of women self-reporting anything (especially n-count) are the ones that we should discount, while we should perfectly accept any similar studies of men. The study i linked directly compares various…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 10:25 PM
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Most men and most women are MEANT to hate each other. Really? Someone won a nobel prize in economics for showing the bias that humans have to be altruistic and cooperate with each other. http://www.iwp.jku.at/born/mpwfst/04/nature02043_f_born.pdf https://web.archive.org/web/20130512175243/http://www.econ.nagoya-cu.ac.jp/~yhamagu/ultimatum.pdf
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 10:10 PM
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Seems there are plenty of better studies out there.. did you actually try look? https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/00224499.2018.1481193 https://search-proquest-com.ezproxy.une.edu.au/docview/220817182?rfr_id=info%3Axri%2Fsid%3Aprimo
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 09:32 PM
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Please go take a psy101 course and find your answer. It will serve you well to understand why studies with 250 college students and insignificant results aren't conclusions that we can extrapolate to the general population as "human nature"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 08:30 PM
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NOT SIGNIFICANT. It means the reported differences were no better than random chance. If you ran this experiment 100 times, there would be no difference in women's answers. Get over your emotional bias. Aren't men supposed to be more "rational"?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 08:00 PM
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Your point is that any studies of self-reported n-counts by women are inaccurate. From the study: "Sex differences in self-reports of the number of sexual partners also showed the predicted trend, although it was not significant" "This pattern should be interpreted cautiously because the overall interaction between participant sex and testing condition was not significant" "This trend is somewhat analogous to Eagly & Wood's (1999) finding that sex differences in mate-selection preferences are mi…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 07:35 PM
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You clearly didn't read this study. The answer to the number of sexual partners wasn't statistically significant. Despite 1 above, the observed effect was that MEN lied (by overreporting)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 07:20 PM
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This isn't "what's actually happening". Once the NRE / honeymoon phase wears off, people realize they're with the wrong person but because of Normie conventions to fit in and the discomfort in breaking up, they get married and have children, thinking that they will help the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 07:10 PM
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Value is defined by the ability to get attention, social niceties, being included in groups, having people enterain and engage with you, etc. No, it's not. You're describing the effects of being valuable but that's not "value" itself. If you believe that dating is a market, then value is defined by the "price" that someone is willing to spend to obtain it. a guy by default has no value Because women aren't attracted to physical cues as much as men are. Things like "social status", "dominance", n…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 06:59 PM
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Have men become so desperate they would rather date broke, trashy golddiggers than be single? Yes, you've made that obvious. Why the fuck would you go home with her in the first place? "WaTchWhAtTheYDo.."
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 12:00 PM
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Yawn. Your black and white world bores me to death.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 11:57 AM
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What you listed is exactly what the majority of women do. That doesn't benefit men, hence why so many "struggle in dating". Brushing off the female experience as an "airport romance novel" would be exactly the same as me saying that the expectations of men for lust/desire are a "thirsty porn-sick film". But please, continue displaying your blatant lack of empathy and ability to even ponder the other gender's values and goals. I'm sure you'll be a big help to people here trying to understand why …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 11:00 AM
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I’m not describing myself personally and think I probably lean more to the other side anyway, but I’ve seen enough friends experience this to understand the pattern. It’s not “all” women but it’s most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 08:23 AM
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Sex doesn’t lead to relationships in most cases, so no. Again, the sex itself isn’t validating at all for women at all - as OP said, a man wanting to fuck you but not commit to you means that you are no better than a piece of driftwood or a coconut (lol but really).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 07:52 AM
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It’s honestly not for women. You’re projecting male sexuality and thinking that any sex is better than no sex - women aren’t men; women feel stronger emotional effects after sex, mostly related to higher rates of oxytocin. If a man doesn’t commit to them, it can be psychologically excruciating. Basically the “post-sex feelz” heavily reduce any benefit of the sex itself - that’s why women don’t have more casual sex and seek LTRs; they learned the lesson.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 07:33 AM
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How is that “having value”? The only value is in if you are the woman who a man wants to keep and show off (aka wifey material). This is why women don’t have casual sex - it’s not validating for women and sends the message that she wasn’t good enough to be upgraded.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 07:24 AM
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🤦‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/20 10:29 PM
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Are you even sure she was watching porn that focuses on the man? 1) porn like that is rare 2) most women watch lesbian porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/20 10:20 PM
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To be frank, I don't think you value your own life very much; that's why you trust your life with him and would risk it for him. I hope I am wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/20 06:41 PM
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Does.. does that feel like love to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/20 05:04 PM
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Fake news. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5421994/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 10:38 PM
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What would you do for children? I’m curious as to how the really woke couples are handling that - like, fair enough if men don’t want to get married, but what if they want children? How could a woman financially protect them? It’s been shown that divorce has a greater negative impact on women than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 10:34 PM
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I understand but I don’t think this is exclusive to women and thus has little to do with “masculinity - straight AND gay people don’t like dating bi people because of 1) increased threat of cheating and 2) a lot of “bi” people are people going through a phase and end up coming our as gay or just straight, and their partners are ashamed that they wasted time with someone who wasn’t ever really into them. It’s exactly the same as men who fear their girlfriends aren’t into them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 06:26 PM
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I agree with this. IMO it's because women don't believe bi men would be fully attracted to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 05:18 PM
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If you were selling a product that was in increasingly high demand, would you lower prices? Imagine you’re selling to an enterprise company, you make a sweet deal for them exclusively, because you know that they are going to boost the value of your product when you can put their logo on your website. Does that deal now mean that you give your product for less to everyone else? Think about how stupid you sound. You don’t look the same, nor act the same as men who get casual sex; why do you think …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 12:10 PM
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Well said!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 07:21 AM
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The partner who invests the most in children, is the one who is selective. In species where the males invest more in parental care, it is the females who "crawl over each other" and compete. If men weren't so solipsistic themselves they might be able to see that women actually bear a lot more of the risk and burden of relationships. Men want a more even playing field? Take more of the responsibility from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/20 10:45 PM
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Do you mean the modern dating market of tinder et al and casual sex? If women were selfish, there would be dating apps for marriages and children...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/20 10:09 PM
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At the individual level, I think most of us here are integrating what we read/think/learn here into our own philosophical frameworks that we use to navigate our personal lives. In a lot of cases, people are here because they were disappointed by relationships (or lack of) and looked for answers. If I was to roll every individual PPD user up into an aggregate, I’d say that as a group, we’re inherently higher IQ than average, “non-Normies”, with an analytical and even narcissistic bent, that gener…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/20 12:05 PM
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Not OP but the answer is No.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/20 01:12 PM
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Most guys do get laid - 70% got laid in the last year.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/20 07:05 AM
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Have you ever been in love / had someone love you?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/20 06:41 AM
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Do you mean if they were never in an LTR? Edit: I really doubt “most” women who were single up to 30 have even hit 60-100 tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/20 06:26 AM
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Men only gained power to restrict when humans started farming - that’s when the division of roles began. Prehistoric societies, foraging societies, were much more egalitarian. Are you trying to say that things like famines and diseases didn’t exist historically? Men died at higher rates as a result. So when you say “physical strength”, please realize that you’re referring to a very limited definition of what that really means. I think that any social structure that tries to apply a single belief…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/20 10:17 PM
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What is “Natural”? Do you mean the infinite number of variations that we see in ever-evolving nature? Or do you mean whatever dogmatic biases you personally believe to be true, apparently largely as a result of Christian brainwashing? Everything is possible in nature and biology, it’s culture that restricts and confines... Yes, most human societies were patriarchal but there is no support for it being as a result of men’s “physical superiority”. Men are only stronger than women for certain kinds…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/20 06:26 PM
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Promiscuous women are not shamed by men. You must be new here.. ?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 10:30 PM
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Because men don't believe that sex corrupts men in the way that it corrupts women. Men are serial killers, rapists, animals - they're already corrupted. Women are wonderful, pure, Madonna-like - their fall from grace is much further.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 09:53 PM
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Wanting a man for money isn’t any different/worse than wanting a woman for beauty/youth.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 08:25 PM
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Patriarchy is inherently “evil” because it’s inequality. Edit: yes, so is feminism before y’all ask. Any ideology that promotes outcomes over opportunities.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 08:21 PM
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You are effectively telling men they aren't allowed to be viscerally disgusted with something they find unattractive. Are women allowed to be viscerally disgusted by poor, unfit men who can't provide or protect?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 08:05 PM
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This is the funniest analogy for how stupid it is. Men are the easiest locks to unlock.. by every kind of “key” and even some types of farm animals. Further, women as locks, are attempted to be broken into many more times compared to men. So while you can think an individual woman is a “shitty lock”, you don’t actually know statistically without knowing how many men tried to fuck her.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 11:01 PM
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If you don’t date men, how do you know?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/20 10:36 PM
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Go watch Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, skip to the scene with Brad Pitt fixing a damn roof with no shirt on, and honestly try telling women that we don’t like the male body... We may not like YOUR body, but we love masculine, exciting men who look after themselves. If you haven’t experienced a woman who is actively wanting your dick in her mouth, then maybe stop writing theses on “female sexuality”, get your ass to the gym, and try developing a personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/20 10:06 PM
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Why don’t you believe that women find men sexy? My theory is that you think that a woman who finds a man sexy, would act in the way that a porn star does for a man, and probably on a first date too. How do you know that it’s not your expectations that are fucked up?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/20 09:58 PM
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Oh, but there has been plenty of data to show that women don’t date “up and across” in the West, as everyone becomes more egalitarian. For some reason, TRP continues to overlook the actual research. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5421994/
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/20 09:54 PM
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Men value themselves for working. Women will continue valuing the Jim Morrison types, whose sole “utility” is in being charismatic, as they have always done. I feel sorry for you that you think a woman can’t be attracted to you for any reason other than your boring job. If you want to be valued for being sexy, then maybe learn what women find sexy, because it sure as hell ain’t your bank account.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/20 09:52 PM
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What proof is there that “women date across and up”?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/20 09:43 PM
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Yes, I believe they can be (and that many marriages are like that). I think it’s one of the major causes of breakups and divorce - that people willingly enter and stay in relationships with someone who they know isn’t a best friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/20 01:51 AM
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Why didn’t she want to see you again? Is it possible she knew that you weren’t really interested in her? No woman wants to be used as a fleshlight.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/20 01:47 AM
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All data that doesn’t support your own worldview, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/20 06:25 PM
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Did you even read this? They clearly state that men pursue women way out of their league and ignore the women closer to their level of attractiveness, while women are more forgiving and still go after average men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/20 05:50 PM
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The paradox of female happiness has a lot of criticism against it because it is comparing to women in the 70s (at the peak of female empowerment / feminism). Men don’t admit they are unhappy, they just kill themselves, hence why the male suicide rate is so high. Entitlement leads to misery, yes. That’s why the male suicide rate is so high - men think they are entitled to the privileges that were given to men before them (especially women). Women initiate most divorces because of infidelity and i…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/20 05:47 PM
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The okcupid study showed the opposite to what you’re saying lol - men ONLY messaged the most attractive women. Women rated most men as average or under, yet women messaged ALL men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/20 12:40 PM
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“Reactive sexuality” always sounds like people are saying that sexuality doesn’t exist until it’s turned on, like a switch. I don’t think women have a reactive sex drive then - women have a sex drive that they rarely act on because they don’t like casual sex / being used by men for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/20 09:56 AM
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It looks like a very boring world.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/20 11:20 PM
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“Reactive sex drive” is cope. Sit a woman next to Brad Pitt, 99% of us will know that we want to fuck him, but we won’t. That doesn’t mean we have a “reactive sex drive” - it means that we want men to make the first moves and initiate because it’s more "romantic" that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/20 09:28 PM
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My standards for men don’t get higher as I get hotter; I think you’re projecting how men think of women. Women would LOVE for there to be more men that we are attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/20 01:17 PM
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You aren’t kidding anyone - you aren’t a “kind soul” or the martyr you’re making out to be. At 32, it’s sad that you can’t even accept responsibility for your own actions and still have to hide behind Mommy. That’s the real “brave new world” that we’re in - a bunch of whiny babies who don’t know how to own their shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/20 11:24 AM
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Both, I think of it as a range. That said, I don’t wear the full on Kardashian makeup anyway so I don’t look like a different person with makeup.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/20 11:12 AM
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I believe that women mostly want fun, exciting men - men who are adventurous and want to do spontaneous things together. I think feminine women, xSFx MBTI types, are boring and too afraid to take risks, so they look for "partners in crime" to pull them out of their conformist shells.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/20 11:33 PM
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Your first post on /dating_advice was about how you're too effeminate. This post is about how you don't have enough sexual experience and/or are apparently creepy to people. Stop trying to be the women that you're looking for. Start trying to be the man that the women you want are looking for. That's it. Should I work on raising my N-count? Only if you want to. What are some ways to market my low N-count as a strength? Plenty of women don't want high-n men (usually low-n count themselves).
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/20 08:25 PM
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This post isn’t about “one-offs” - it’s about recurring FWB-type relationships where the guy continuously wants to see the girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/20 11:20 PM
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Because it wouldn't solve the underlying, actual problem. Those men are trying to regulate an emotional problem (lack of self-worth / validation) through external means (women/sex), in the same way that toddlers do. Even if they got all the sex they want, they'd still have the same core insecurity.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 05:06 PM
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What they mean is that they don’t want a woman who is smart enough to correct them, which usually results in an argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 12:26 PM
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Women do have empathy for men. The problem is that most of the time it doesn’t really seem like it is “empathy” that the men here actually want versus a pity fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 07:58 AM
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Because you’re forgetting all the opposing reasons for why women don’t like casual sex. If opposing reasons are > desire for Chad, she will resist. I think TRP/PPD underestimate the amount of times that even Chad gets denied.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 11:21 PM
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Pretty sure that most women have these “rules” even for Chads.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 10:40 PM
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Also the typical “Of course she came” 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 10:40 PM
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AMALT.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 11:56 AM
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Men: “we find a wide range of women attractive” Also men: when I say “wide range”, I really mean different hair colors of the exact same Stacy. Edit: real talk, your standards are too high for what you offer. It’s unlikely you have the personality that can make you competitive amongst the options that a lot of these women would have. Also, I imagine that it’s very unlikely that you would even get along with them. My sense is that your relationships ended not because of a lack of attraction but b…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 11:43 AM
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How do you define horny/libido actually? I feel like I’m high libido, I masturbate 1-3 times per day. I can still go a year without sleeping with a guy. I would “want” to have sex badly, but it’s not a need (masturbating/orgasm is).
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 09:52 PM
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She argued perfectly fine and gave valid points - men whining about being victims of the “system” do often have power to change a lot of the things that make them unattractive. Honestly, is the same with women complaining about how men treat them. Everyone needs to believe they’re leading in the oppression olympics so that they don’t have to accept that maybe they are their own worst enemy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/20 10:24 PM
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Sounds like an insecure attachment style personally.. 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/20 09:59 PM
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You said argument.. 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/20 09:52 PM
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Single mom households are extremely poor for the development of children, but women don't seem to care anymore. 2 things: It's not having a single mother that causes the problems, it's not having a father. Children with divorced parents who see their parents equally, have the same outcomes as those with parents that stay together. Many single mothers, especially in the US, are very young (18-24), not white, and have grown up in low socioeconomic areas. Basically, it may not be being a single mot…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/20 05:08 PM
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she gets everything she is after without making any concessions already. Do you tell her this?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/20 12:23 AM
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Have you honestly even tried it? How intimate and vulnerable have you / your partners being with each other communication-wise? There’s quite a lot of interesting research on this btw. You can look up Gottman’s work.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/20 12:18 AM
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There is no “biological bottomline” is what I am saying. Literally every “feature” of a species was rarely (if ever) created for the purpose that it serves today. It hard for people to really accept because we prefer “rules” and “biological bottomlines” so that we don’t have to do the mental work of enduring uncertainty.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/20 01:34 PM
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That is a very misinformed belief IMO. Depression, stress, anxiety, chronic diseases, all linked to inflammatory diet. Yes, exercise helps too of course, but having no exercise doesn’t kill you in the same way that the standard American diet does.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 11:05 PM
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That’s not fact though. Darwin himself argued that people completely misunderstood natural selection as being the only or determining factor. There are many cases in nature when “bad genes” are selected for. We don’t even know what “good genes” really are - it changes in each environment.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 12:59 PM
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The only problem with n-count is that men with higher n’s themselves judge women hypocritically. If you’re low n, date low n’s. If you’ve got a harem of plates, why do you honestly think that you‘re going to get along with a virgin?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/20 10:49 PM
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It’s your problem that you think having a job and your own money is a “male thing”. Frankly, what an insult to masculinity too.. And no, I don’t think you will see the “starter wife” dynamic from women as much as men. I think that most women are too stressed / anxious to be constantly optimizing in the way that testosterone allows men to.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/20 07:18 AM
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You’re projecting what men do. It’s called “starter WIFE” for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/20 06:57 AM
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Improving only makes sense to men because most women are genuinely looking to commit - women can be “won over” by a guy for commitment because it really only depends on whether she can bare being in a relationship with him (physical, personality etc). For women, it’s different - most men are genuinely not looking to commit. Regardless of how perfect a woman is, some men cannot be won over. That’s why for women seeking commitment, the most successful / efficient strategy is to find the right men …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/20 09:20 PM
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FDS is the exact same as The Rules book from 1995 basically. Even that book was just recycled from what women were taught by their mothers. That’s what Atlas is explaining to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/20 09:10 PM
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Uh.. isn’t that just like TRP? 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/20 09:03 PM
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Still, it’s crazy to say/think that torso is what drives females attraction. Most of it is face.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/20 08:52 AM
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No because the instinct for a woman to get a man’s money isn’t the same as her instinct for sex. This is literally TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/20 09:54 PM
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It is an instinct for women to get resources, however money doesn’t make a man more physically/sexually attractive to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/20 08:59 PM
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Because women want money from betas to fund their children, meanwhile broke musician guys have all the groupies because they’re what women are actually attracted to (charismatic and exciting men).
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/20 08:29 PM
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Read the study again. No faces were shown.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/20 05:18 PM
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Resources aren’t attractive for women either - that is women selecting for betas.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/20 06:46 AM
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The only time I’ve ever heard this is from men in a completely sarcastic way, like at parties encouraging guys to drink more or to do something risky/funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 07:39 PM
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Sociopaths, mostly.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 06:29 AM
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I submitted. I honestly don't find the absolutely shredded look most attractive and prefer guys in the 15-20% body fat range.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/20 08:28 PM
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How many people have you slept with?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/20 08:48 AM
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When you say utility, do you have specific examples from your relationships? I guess I’m doubtful that women use men for “utility” any more than men use women. Men use women’s beauty and youth for their own status, women use men’s money and status for their own status. In nature, females don’t choose men for utility, technically they choose their best option available to them. I don’t see why this is a bad thing necessarily.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/20 08:04 AM
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genuine loving relationship with a woman What does "genuine loving relationship" actually mean to you? What behaviours would you expect to see that you haven't?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/20 09:32 PM
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Because gay men all want the same thing from each other. The "redpill" for hetero men is that they learn women want children/families/resources over sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 08:51 PM
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Is it really that different? IMO everyone is happy to settle on looks a bit for personality. They’re still attracted but they know their partner isn’t a 9/10. AF attractive is high SMV, low RMV - the shredded CrossFit guy with a 90 IQ. BB attractive is high RMV, low SMV - the polite, smart but vanilla guy that you can actually have meet your friends / parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/20 06:51 PM
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They’re not plates if you aren’t fucking them 🤦‍♀️ Most people don’t like fucking someone who is fucking other people on the side
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 06:21 AM
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they can't gain enough muscle naturally. Of course they can. Women can gain 0.5-1lbs muscle per month, men are 1-2lbs. Go speak to any woman who lifts somewhat seriously and I bet she has an "overweight" BMI. You see it all the time in /r/xxfitness.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/20 08:57 AM
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cut out all carbs Serious question, do you honestly know what "carbs" are? Vegetables are carbs. I get that you're probably on some keto-induced trip but please understand that all serious athletes eat high carb diets for a reason. The biggest problem with the Standard American Diet is a lack of dietary fibre (that makes you feel satiated and full), as a result of heavily processed food. And fish/chicken for protein? Have you looked at how much protein is in lentils, broccoli, spinach? All very …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/20 08:51 AM
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“Settling in looks” doesn’t mean they aren’t attracted. At some point you realize your actual SMV in terms of the partners you can get. You HAVE to settle if you want a partner or die alone thinking you’re going to hold out for the 9’s. Men do this too.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 06:26 PM
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Technically female friends use the same system as “masculinity tokens” too. People who just complain without taking action get exhausting after a while, for anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 06:22 PM
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The same study showed that having exactly 2 partners was worse than 10 partners up until very recently. I think this shows that there are a lot more important factors that impact a marriage than number of partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 09:05 PM
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=r2INybBpXkM
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 08:20 AM
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I don’t actually believe he is/was as successful with women as what he claimed. I watched an interview with Ukrainian girls that he had claimed he’d slept with by putting their photos on his blog - they said they’d never spoken to him in their lives and you could just tell that they were telling the truth as he started backtracking. He was shocked that the host had found the girls from the photos.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 11:01 PM
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I’d probably feel sorry for him wasting money on shallow things and would be impressed that his priorities had changed.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 10:58 PM
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That's exactly like saying that men create their sexual fulfilment.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 06:23 PM
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that men are unhappy/depressed/even frustrated with the fact that only a small minority of men are getting casual sex. I'm empathetic to anyone who feels unhappy/depressed/even frustrated from dating. Truly, I am sorry. That said, I do think men here express their dissatisfaction at a much higher rate than women do, even though a lot of women are in a similar position and maybe even worse off - it's a lot harder to get married and have children than it is to get casual sex, frankly. Men are "sup…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 06:02 PM
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I'm not asking for life advice lol. I was stating what security means to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 05:53 PM
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Security isn't money in my mind. It's more like "is this person going to be here for me in 20 years?"
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 04:55 PM
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Because stoicism is an ideal set by men, not women. Women want extroverted, fun, exciting, expressive men, not cold, boring oafs. There is a reason why most philosophers were incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 10:58 AM
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Stoicism is learned - it's a discipline of overcoming your base instincts.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 10:03 AM
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No man is born like that, they have just internalized their role as a tool. I don’t think you’d be saying that if you had a son and daughter and saw the differences between them. Boys (men) are absolutely born to want to be the centre of attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 08:55 AM
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No, I don’t think it’s possible to have sex and not get attached for the vast majority of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 08:10 AM
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Yes, and that’s precisely the problem that women have with casual sex. The way that women biologically attach through sex (oxytocin) only to have some man say “I don’t want any obligation”. If you don’t want an obligation, don’t have sex with a woman. You can spin your “sexual strategy is amoral” hamster all you like but please know that casual sex hurts most women, even if they don’t express it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 07:53 AM
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I do care but at the same time, I don’t understand why men need to obsess over it so much. What really is the problem with just dating one girl, being her boyfriend, and getting sex that way? Men have a solution for sex. Women don’t have a solution for commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 07:45 AM
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Lol please read all my comments again. No, women don’t claim certain desires are needs like men do with sex; HOWEVER, I personally believe women do NEED security/commitment even though they don’t always verbally say it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 07:43 AM
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Saying they want a husband/commitment isn’t the same as saying it’s a need IMO. A lot of women, from my perspective, don’t like to admit they have needs at all - they don’t like their life to be so heavily impacted by one factor like having a partner, so they pretend to be “independent”.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 06:16 AM
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What do you actually expect though? I don’t understand how you can all perfectly accept why men like casual sex biologically, yet not have the empathy to understand why women don’t? Casual sex can be psychologically/emotionally excruciating for women. Like, actually painful in your psyche. I think a lot more women would love to be free and enjoy it but they learned its impact the hard way. That’s why women usually only try it once or twice.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 05:54 AM
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I honestly don’t think a lot of women like to admit it. It is something I’ve observed among a lot of my close girlfriends though.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 05:44 AM
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I don’t think men say they need sex to survive - like OP’s post, it’s about needing something for emotional health and fulfillment. Sure, not all women need it but I think the majority do.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/20 10:50 PM
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Men do this more than women IMO. It’s why “post-nut clarity” is a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/20 09:50 PM
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Technically a lot of women do. Not “buying” guys but getting into relationships just to be in a relationship, rather than to be with a specific person.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/20 08:41 PM
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It’s not about money or providing, it’s about having someone in your life / companionship. I think women really care about this in the same way that men care about being validated for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/20 08:30 PM
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I think it’s the same for women with security/commitment though too..
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/20 08:22 PM
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https://images.app.goo.gl/JntBsrAMPp3LMK3F7
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/20 07:58 AM
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Have you honestly even read OP’s title and post? But please, continue trying to trap me in some “gotcha” while making yourself look ridiculous. It’s laughable at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/20 09:07 PM
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Learned helplessness.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/20 07:53 PM
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What is an outlier to you? If you read those wiki sources, there are conclusions in there 80-90% of all crimes are committed by male perpetrators. Is it thus a problem to say that amongst criminals, female perpetrators are outliers? I didn't guess anything about your sex, I asked a question to avoid making an assumption, like you yourself have done multiple times against me. Thank you, but, remember, this whole conversation began by you declaring that the "real problem are male criminals" while …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/20 07:40 PM
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Because the statistics say so. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_differences_in_crime The fact that you're even asking honestly makes me think that you still have emotion around this. Is it that you feel guilty because you're a man? You shouldn't. Again, you are assuming people think things that they don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/20 07:16 PM
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You are reading something that I have not said, thus to me, it's actually you who is the bigot here. you talked about how societies are "accosted to men's sexual violence", and that "women committing sex crimes are an outlier". I didn't say either of those things. I said "outlier cases of female perpetrators", which means that amongst criminals, female criminals are outliers. Data consistently shows this, so why does this statement bother you? criminal men are also OUTLIERS. But if someone says:…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/20 07:01 PM
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Prejudice would be saying/believing that all men are dangerous because some men are, ironically like TRP's AWALT. the majority of "theft incidents" being committed by blacks I see no problem in looking at data objectively and noticing such a trend. Me stating that "most criminals are men" is an unpopular opinion in our current PC-obsessed culture, despite being a perfectly empirical statement. Do you have any problem with the statement "most Nobel prize winners are men"?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/20 06:24 PM
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The best way to do that is by removing gender from the equation completely Why? I think the problem is that people are too sensitive about gender; people feel personally accused or at fault when they shouldn't - in many cases, we're simply looking at trends in data objectively and it should be useful to us to understand why we see the patterns that we do. Gender bias goes both ways too as certain crimes can become normalized if they're committed by similar groups of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/20 05:42 PM
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A woman could easily argue the same for men though, no? This is why the whole conversation is silly in the first place. I'd personally rather we focus on what we can do to prevent such things from happening at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/20 04:46 PM
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No, I just really like Hamlet.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/20 02:58 PM
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You don’t have to kiss a full head of hair.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/20 02:24 PM
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We all need to be accountable for the past. It doesn’t need to be with pathological guilt, it is merely an objective, neutral reflection on what we learned and how we can grow from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/20 02:10 PM
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If you think that then you have seriously misunderstood me. I don’t understand why we (humans) have to be so short-sighted. Can we not approach things by going “What did we try in the past? What results did that have? What did we learn from it? What can we do now for a future that better serves our preferences/desires?”
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/20 02:09 PM
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The fact that you even jumped straight to fault and blame is demonstrative of the same toxic mentality that exists in the OP, as well as the feminists that I assume you're passively aggressively trying to attack here. Don't you see that you're no better than your so-called "enemy" in this regard? Until men can be truly accountable for their historical mistakes and overall lack in ability of attuning culture to the needs of everyone, not just themselves as a whole at the expense and objectificati…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/20 12:33 PM
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Because people have become desensitized by the majority of "sex scandals" being committed by men that any transgression is vastly more shocking and interesting. Why do there seem to be so many men here that bring up outlier cases of female perpetrators? Why can men so easily accept that testosterone is largely linked to making sex a "biological need" for them, yet clutch their pearls if anyone dare insinuate that it also correlates to violence and crime?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/20 11:52 AM
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Oxytocin and Vasopressin decide it, aka feelz.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/20 08:19 AM
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Do you actually think these precious fantasies help to fill the gaping hole inside of you?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 09:44 PM
3

That’s not how evolution works 🤦‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 03:10 PM
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Anecdata.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 02:01 PM
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It hasn’t been proven. Even the “g spot” is argued to just be a clitoral orgasm.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 01:37 PM
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I’m not even sure what point you’re trying to make. All you’ve done is shown why women shouldn’t have sex quickly/early, even if they do like sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 11:35 AM
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It's released during orgasm not sex, and women rarely orgasm with casual fucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 11:07 AM
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It’s been shown that in more egalitarian countries, women choose traditionally feminine jobs/careers. I think foreign women study engineering for money and a ticket out of their country, not because they’re genuinely passionate about it. Western women study what they are passionate about, which seems “intellectually barren” to you because you’re a man lacking in empathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 07:37 AM
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People lie. The point is that foreign girls want OPs passport. American women don’t need it, so they select for other things.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 07:27 AM
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Your degrees are exciting for the girls who are looking for a beta provider. Meanwhile, bartender or broke, musician Chad are lusted after because they’re actually exciting.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 07:24 AM
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You sound really boring. Western girls are honest is all.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 05:31 AM
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I’ve found the opposite, personally. When I had sex early, I ended up in relationships with people that I didn’t even truly connect with. It’s strongly connected to issues with real intimacy - insecure attachment styles rush into sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 04:46 AM
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Have you yourself ever waited? I was always pretty quick to rush into sex when I was younger, until I started dating a guy who didn’t fuck me until 3 months in. When we finally did have sex, I wanted him so badly that the sex was almost spiritual. We were together for 5 years, most of which we lived together, and sex/attraction never slowed down for us. Ever since then, I always wait. I actually enjoy the feeling of strongly desiring someone. I assume most women are like me in that because sex i…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 10:29 PM
2

Happy men get married.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/20 05:09 AM
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When you look 5 years ahead, do you see her in your life?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/20 04:45 AM
2

Most people are low value.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 04:57 PM
2

Why does it matter if they learned sex in ltrs? This whole carousel thing is a total myth, it's more like women have a fling between their serial monogamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 11:20 PM
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That's true; however, men never commit to SMV alone, IMO. They're happy to sacrifice on raw looks for a better whole package of "wifey material", which is all that women really care about anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 10:53 PM
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At which point the woman tells him that she assumed he was going to pay Women aren't that assertive. Even if she didn't want to pay, she'd keep quiet to avoid the confrontation.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 07:20 AM
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