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| 0 | Women don't like assholes specifically, but men at the topI agree that most women do not like assholes. I disagree that men at the top are assholes, or more likely to be assholes. The truth is that top men that are not assholes and want relationships are more likely to find one and get taken off the market so at any given time the majority of single "top" men are single for a reason. Men also have the expectation to approach so the top 30% of women in physical attractiveness can probably land a top 10% man for just a night. But if those women then empl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/26 07:16 PM |
| 1 | It's not women who share top percent of men, it's the other way aroundIf you look at num_partners in the 2010 Online College Social Life Survey (note: pre dating app era so it's probably WAY worse nowadays), women have higher percentage representations at every lower body count number bin all the way up through 7 (including 0). 87.25% of women were in the 0-7 range compared to 81.94% of men. In the 8+ count bins this trend reverses and you have 12.76% of women compared to 18% of men. In the highest category of 21+ body count you have 4.27% of men compared to 1.69%… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/26 05:00 PM |
| 3 | This question is primarily for men, but open to anyone. If you woke up as a straight woman, what kind of partner would you go for?There are tons of guys out there that aren't into conventionally attractive "fresh n fit" girls, women just tend to avoid those guys because they are less conventional and less conventionally attractive. For example, look up female biphobia in men. If I'm a woman, I would simply just not be biphobic and be open to giving chances to guys that were less conventional, and are more likely to have less conventional standards. Easy mode. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/03/26 06:24 PM |
| 3 | This question is primarily for men, but open to anyone. If you woke up as a straight woman, what kind of partner would you go for?I’m 31 and married. I’m alt straight so I’m not into the idea of dominating skinny, youthful 18 year olds. I like more mature, dominant women like my wife. She is also alt straight and thinks tall, confident, masculine guys are annoying and overrated. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/03/26 01:02 PM |
| 4 | This question is primarily for men, but open to anyone. If you woke up as a straight woman, what kind of partner would you go for?Easy mode activated! I would diet and exercise to just not be fat and immediately be top 20% in physical attractiveness for women. I would avoid top 20% men by physical attractiveness and go for the 40-80% sweet spot, as a lot of those men are top 25% for looks+qualities and are still single because they get overlooked by other women. I would try to date experientially, not evaluatively, focusing on having fun and connection on dates rather than interviewing. I would go on dates to public places… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/26 11:02 PM |
| – | Why is “MILF” a top porn category if men are only attracted to young women?Super ultra attractive young women get a lot of attention and often get knocked up by some rich dude where they don't have to work and have a lot of time and money to workout and eat healthy. Go to a resort in the Caribbean somewhere and you'll see tons of them. A lot of times they are off limits but guys can still dream about them and it gets reflected in their porn habits. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/26 07:39 PM |
| 4 | What are the problems with dating apps?You're pre-screening guys in a shallow manner based on a couple pics and a couple sentences and then hoping for quality. You need to take it easy on the pre-screen and look for quality in a less shallow setting like on an actual date. It's a dating app, not a talking app. Go on dates with guys that want to go on dates with you. You can now select based off reciprocal interest in addition to much less shallow things that you discern on the dates. Even if their profile seems average or boring, you… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/02/26 06:08 AM |
| 4 | Men, why are you surprised that attractive women are attracted to attractive men af/bb? And should women feel the same?Women tend to have astronomically high standards for casual sex whereas my threshold for attractiveness is pretty reasonable and attainable for women. Many women who focus reasonably on health, diet, and fitness will meet them. So, I would find both a baddie and future potential wifey sexually attractive and wouldn’t mind having casual sex with either. However, if I had super attractive women that I could never lock down in a million years want to have sex with me, I wouldn’t say no. If it goes … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/26 04:55 PM |
| 1 | People say “demisexual” when they’re really describing the normal sexuality of a typical femaleIt's strategic pluralism. Women evaluate men based on whether they are reliable long term providers, and whether they contain high quality genes. Women, in general, only feel strong, instant sexual attraction (similar to men) for extremely attractive men with high quality genes. However, women can also become attracted to men over time (demisexuality). Since sex is risky for women, this encourages women to make sure it's worth it if it's fast and furious, or to make sure there's more long term i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/26 04:16 PM |
| – | Women don't owe you explanation of their standards.Don't owe to someone? Sure. But you at least owe it to yourself to have rational and reasonable enough standards to be able to explain them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/26 03:51 PM |
| 1 | The Concept of “Leagues” in Dating Doesn’t Make SenseI think a lot of people misunderstand leagues. In American football you might have a continuous spectrum of talent with no clear line distinguishing a “league”. However, there are limited slots in the NFL so the best tryout and get in to the NFL and the others go to UFL and other leagues. In dating there is also a continuous spectrum of desirability with no clear line distinguishing some league. However, women tend to have a lot of mathematically impossible preferences e.g. more than 16% of wome… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/01/26 12:20 AM |
| 2 | Do men not seek companionship out of a relationship ? If that's the case, what's the reasoning ?My dad and I were in the room when my paternal grandmother passed away. That afternoon we went to the beach with a cooler of beer, two chairs, and an umbrella and sat in silence drinking beer until the sun set. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/26 06:37 PM |
| 2 | Do dating apps self select for picky women?Dating apps have a much higher percentage of single-for-a-reason individuals because people lacking those reasons are more likely to find someone and get off, while single-for-a-reason people remain behind. This is exacerbated for more desirable profiles because they get more attention and shouldn't have too much trouble finding what they're looking for and uninstalling, unless of course there's some reason why they're still around... This is why women, despite having seemingly endless options, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/26 01:14 AM |
| 3 | It’s easier than ever to date hear me outUnfortunately lots of women are fat too and being overweight tends to look better on men than on women. If you look up the study “Mate Preferences and Matching Outcomes in Online Dating”, the optimal BMI for men was 27 (overweight) while for women it was 17 (underweight). So higher modern weights actually result in a larger pool of men in women’s ideal male weight range than vice versa. Desirably fit guys vastly outnumber desirably fit women. Simply being reasonably fit and social as a guy is, s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/26 09:34 PM |
| 1 | Most men do not want “direct” unflattering communication from womenDepends on the context. The example context for your link was clothing. In that context I definitely want clear communication from my gf. My gf, however wouldn’t even like the comment “that dress makes your ass look fat” which is a COMPLIMENT. But if we’re trying on clothes and she randomly drops some out of pocket “direct truth” like “no matter what you wear you’re still going to look medium ugly” I’d be like ummmm what? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/26 12:57 PM |
| 2 | The bar is in hell and the guy who swiped on 2 million women on Tinder proves it.0.1% match rate, 0.06% conversation rate proves the bar is in hell? What? Au contraire. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/26 07:39 PM |
| 0 | Why would you treat a woman who really likes you worse?A sad inevitability of dating is that desirability often trades off with reciprocated interest. More desirable women have more options, more competition, and require more effort to court. It may appear that guys treat women that are into them "worse" but that's because 99% of the time those women are less desirable. The other 1% of the time leads to LTRs / marriage where, sure, guys should definitely treat their SOs well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/26 09:55 PM |
| 2 | If Christianity Is Returning to the West, Not Giving Women an Orgasm Should Be a Sin AgainIt seems that the true emphasis here is on conception, not the female orgasm. The sin would be having sex for pleasure instead of attempting to conceive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/26 05:59 PM |
| 2 | Do you view being penetrated as submissive, degrading or bad?Again, it depends on the sex. I've had sex with short women that literally want and ask to be degraded in which case, yes, it definitely feels like I am degrading them. However, I've also had sex with short women that hop on top and/or play more of an active role which makes the sex feel more 50/50 and not degrading. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/26 05:34 PM |
| 2 | Do you view being penetrated as submissive, degrading or bad?Yes, there's a lot more to it than just penetration alone. That was my main point, I was also just pointing out that height difference can influence perception of how "degrading" sex is. I'd definitely feel much different interacting with a petite 5'1" gal vs a tall athletic volleyball gal. If I wanted to get sexually dominated and degraded by a woman I'd prefer the volleyball gal, not the 5'1" gal. Similarly, if an average height woman at 5'4" wants sex to feel more dominating and degrading, sh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/26 05:06 PM |
| 0 | Do you view being penetrated as submissive, degrading or bad?I feel like the answer to a lot of these is: depends on the sex. A girl could be on top of a guy choking and degrading him while she clam jams his kids out and she's technically "being penetrated", but obviously she's in control and he's being dominated. Add a strapon and turn him 180 degrees and it's still the same dominance/control dynamic but a lot more stigmatized. This is likely because it contrasts with many different conventions like guys are supposed to be dominant, guys are supposed to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/26 04:18 PM |
| 1 | If you could run one rigorous study on modern dating/gender conflict, what would you test and what do you predict?Without the extreme interconnectedness of the digital age, if a woman is at her job, everyone else across those other groups are more out of sight and out of mind. However, add in the digital age and social media and she can now be connected with, and potentially receiving solicitations from, men across all those localized groups AND dating apps all at the same time. It’s also a lot easier to compare men across the groups which may lead to more fixation on easily assessed shallow traits like hei… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/26 03:47 PM |
| 7 | If you could run one rigorous study on modern dating/gender conflict, what would you test and what do you predict?A more thorough, modernized, examination of this finding: male selectivity is invariant to group size, while female selectivity is strongly increasing in group size From the study: Fisman, Raymond, et al. "Gender differences in mate selection: Evidence from a speed dating experiment." The Quarterly Journal of Economics 121.2 (2006): 673-697. Particularly with respect to social media, massive modern perceived dating group sizes, and women's standards for men. It would be very interesting to see i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/26 02:26 AM |
| 1 | Do men actually prefer if their girlfriend is a virgin?I think most guys just want symmetry in sexual experience. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/12/25 01:39 PM |
| 1 | Women should just cut off any access to intamcy till they get the result they want.Sexual scarcity is what leads to fixation on it. If you want less fixation on sex, it needs to be more plentiful, common, and meaningless for men. It's like water. You don't really think or worry much about water unless you're thirsty because you can easily get it from the tap. However, if the tap suddenly stops and water becomes scarce, you're going to constantly be on the lookout for it. Men fixate on sex because it's scarce so they have to constantly be on the lookout for it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/25 09:49 PM |
| 1 | Men have standards by default and criticize women for doing same thingI see you're able to reason in hypotheticals. Here's one: what if the digital age actually does inflate women's standards to be more unrealistic and delusional? Suppose that men are able and willing to approach women that are "roughly comparably desirable". If you have a 100 men and 100 women, the 50th most desirable woman might get approached by 20 guys #40-60. However, now turn it into 1000 men and 1000 women and now the 500th most desirable woman is getting approached by 200 guys #400-600. In… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/25 12:32 AM |
| 4 | Men have standards by default and criticize women for doing same thingThe biggest difference is men tend to date more experientially and will still give a chance to a woman they find physically attractive and “feel it out”. Even a fat, high n count, single mother could find guys that are attracted to her and still get chances and opportunities that could lead to something more. Women, on the other hand, tend to date more evaluatively. They struggle to find most men attractive without getting to know them first and often have a laundry list of shallow checkboxes fo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/25 04:54 PM |
| 3 | The gender disparity in crime isn’t a conspiracy against menI mean if I go to a world where the Star-Belly Sneetches claim to be oppressed but 99% of the prisoners are actually Plain-Belly Sneetches, that’s kinda sus. I’m sure there could still be plenty of issues for the Star-Belly Sneetches but clearly society isn’t entirely out to get to them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/25 12:04 AM |
| 2 | Slut Paradox: Men don’t wanna wife sluts, but are sluts the ladies who genuinely like men?Food for thought: if every woman is a slut, would the idea of a slut still exist? More food for thought: there are asymmetrical perceptions of sex due to asymmetrical access to sex. If you eliminate the latter, you eliminate the former. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/25 06:52 AM |
| 2 | The Grim Future of Men and Dating?So yes to equality, no to happiness because it can’t be measured. So how do we know when we’ve actually reached “equality”? Complete gender parity in everything? The gender equality paradox seems to suggest that might be impossible. I’m not trying to say women’s issues don’t exist, it’s just that if we keep blindly advancing women there are two eventualities. First, eventually, if not already, enough women’s issues will be addressed to where there are just as many or more men’s issues. Second, e… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/25 05:45 AM |
| -1 | The Grim Future of Men and Dating?Yes feminism desires gender equality, does it not? If so, the end goal should be for happiness, purpose, and value across genders to be equal. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/25 05:01 AM |
| 24 | Women shouldn’t complain about dating appsIt’s sort of like the concept of first world problems. Someone might be very stressed about their 100k wedding while someone else is stressed about finding their next meal. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/25 04:55 AM |
| 1 | The Grim Future of Men and Dating?Guess what toppled the antiquated roles/norms? Should feminists not want women's advances to persist? If so, society must reach a point of equilibrium where both men and women are happy, not just women. Also one of the best ways to help young men feel happy, loved, and valued is to actually love and value them rather than just telling them to fuck off and "go to therapy or something". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/25 04:37 AM |
| 5 | The Grim Future of Men and Dating?Rome was once a powerful empire and now the lone and level sands stretch far away. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/25 04:23 AM |
| 0 | The Grim Future of Men and Dating?The future isn't grim for men, it's grim for women. Young, sexually frustrated, purposeless men are ripe for radicalization. If modern feminism doesn't find a way to help young men feel happy, loved, valued members of society with purpose (perhaps as fathers), other non-feminist parties will find a way to give them purpose. And there's a high likelihood that purpose will have roots in conservatism / antifeminism and not be aligned with the best interests of women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/25 03:57 AM |
| 12 | "Nice Guys" are basically an urban legendTale as old as time: Male pejorative gets created. Male pejorative is popularized. Male pejorative gets overused and overgeneralized. Same thing happened with incel and mansplaining. It's supposed to be a guy who doesn't have much going on except being nice and ironically becomes not nice when being nice gets him nowhere. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/25 03:42 AM |
| 2 | Even if a research proved tomorrow that women's standards are 110% delusional they are still entitled to itYou’re the one that seems close minded and sure of themselves just blindly echoing the status quo. You mention fertility is an evolutionary driver of attraction to height but, believe it or not, there’s a curvilinear relationship between height and reproductive success. Chasing height isn’t really the evolutionary meta and if that was the main factor, women ought to most desire men of average height. Rather, a major component of women’s height fixation is socialized. Women grow up surrounded wit… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/25 04:03 AM |
| 4 | Even if a research proved tomorrow that women's standards are 110% delusional they are still entitled to itThe looks are too hardwired into our brains But like how do you know that? There was a time in our history where everyone thought women were biologically dumber than men because that was just the status quo. There was even (flawed) research backing those claims back then. There is evidence that heightism has cultural and social aspects to it as well such as clustering of preferences around cultural thresholds such as "6 foot" in countries with the imperial system and "180cm" in countries with th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/25 11:23 PM |
| 9 | Even if a research proved tomorrow that women's standards are 110% delusional they are still entitled to itYou can tack on physical traits of small, weak, and petite onto the first one and behavioral traits of ambitious, confident, dominant onto the second one. Also "provider" relates to some behavioral traits as well. The physical and behavioral traits relate to each other and stem from the same antiquated valuations that are being shifted for women but not as much for men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/25 11:18 PM |
| 16 | Even if a research proved tomorrow that women's standards are 110% delusional they are still entitled to itOver most of the 20th century, men had antiquated ideals for women to be obedient housewives. Women did not just throw up their hands and say men are entitled to whatever they want. No, they fought to shift sociocultural perspectives to change women's valuation. Now here in the 21st century, many women have antiquated ideals for men to be tall providers. We're not about to throw up our hands and say women are entitled to whatever tf they want either. No, per the concept of equality, women too sh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/25 08:19 PM |
| 2 | Modern society won’t admit that dating is harder for the average man than average woman, because it pushes a narrative that men don’t experience disadvantages, or women have privileges.Plenty of women admit it but aren't willing to change anything about it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/25 04:37 PM |
| 2 | Apparently even progressive women have a habit of demonizing sexuality of average dudesYou have to find and link the no participation variant of the link and even then people can still find and participate in the post, in which case that becomes brigading which is against reddit sitewide rules. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/25 04:17 PM |
| 2 | Men who complain about women not being mature and worthy of relationships, yet keep appealing to the lowest common denominator are patheticA well watered garden knows no thirst. It’s easier to abstain from dating when you feel like you can easily get attention whenever you want. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/25 06:06 PM |
| 0 | Men who complain about women not being mature and worthy of relationships, yet keep appealing to the lowest common denominator are patheticI'm not advocating for ignoring anyone. I'm saying guys, as OP says, "keep appealing to the lowest common denominator" because they don't have the luxury of choice. They would gladly pursue attractive well-grounded, caring, reciprocal, forthcoming, humble women if they could. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/25 06:14 AM |
| 3 | What standards should men and women actually look for in someone they want to date?Well a great example of some "nonphysical standards" that I mentioned being "totally fine" would be to not date a guy that does drugs. As you say, you'd be better off finding a 6/10 that checks all the right boxes. Also you gotta think about what you mean to the other person. A lot of women will try and try with 10/10s that view them as just another option whereas there may be a 6/10 guy out there that checks all their boxes AND sees them as the hottest and/or most desirable woman he's ever gott… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/25 06:09 AM |
| 2 | Do women not give young women enough credit in who they choose to date?Bill Belichick's gf Jordon was born in 2001 in Maine. She went to Bridgewater State University and got a BA in philosophy and was a cheerleader. At 19 years old, before she could fade into middle class obscurity, she met Bill who now has a net worth of ~$70 million. Fast forward to 2023 and Jordon has amassed a real estate portfolio around $8 million and has actually filed trademarks on "gold digger" inscribed stuff to make money off the haters. By age 22 she made more money off being a hot youn… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/25 06:01 AM |
| 5 | Men who complain about women not being mature and worthy of relationships, yet keep appealing to the lowest common denominator are patheticSoooo you're suggesting abstain. I'm not wrong. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/25 05:22 AM |
| 2 | Men who complain about women not being mature and worthy of relationships, yet keep appealing to the lowest common denominator are patheticUnfortunately most guys can't really afford to be picky. You can either scavenge or abstain. Eventually you may find your oasis in the desert but you aren't going to survive to that point without drinking some muddy puddles along the way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/25 05:04 AM |
| 1 | What standards should men and women actually look for in someone they want to date?I feel like this question is tough because women's nonphysical standards tend to be totally fine, the problem is usually when they only give chances to top percentage men e.g. tall guys. Keep your nonphysical standards the way they are and go find a more average guy that meets them who is obsessed with you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/25 04:53 AM |
| 1 | Men rarely if ever care about birthrates and childbearing irlSexlessness, loneliness, increasing age of first marriage, and declining birthrates are all correlated modern trends so discussion of any one like declining birthrates almost always "has something to do with or is in a context of" the others. Also women don't even really select for childcare traits. That tall rich dude that works all the time is NOT gonna help you raise a kid. If you're trying to imply increased childcare support is the key to solving male sexlessness and the fertility crisis, a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/25 04:27 AM |
| 5 | "DoorDash Girl" is proof that women's spaces will not hold women accountable.A similar thing happened near me when some affluent influencer woman jumped out of a male driver’s Lyft alleging he made a wrong turn and was trying to kidnap her. Lyft (who has all the data and evidence) deactivated her account lol. So, she turned to social media to unleash the misandry brigade and all the bad publicity made them have to reinstate her account and issue an apology. I’ve never been able to find any follow up on the guy being charged, fired, or anything likely because the evidence… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/25 07:52 PM |
| – | In your experience, what body type has gotten you the most attention from conventionally attractive girls?Tall body type. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/25 01:05 PM |
| 8 | Men being the ones to initiate is not a failure of feminismThis is called choice feminism which is condemned by feminists but really the vast majority of modern feminism is now just choice feminism. The reason this is a failure of feminism is because modern feminism often masquerades as a gender equality movement and alleges having benefits for men for men too, some of those being what you mention here. Many women only advance feminist ideals they like but when it comes time to topple their antiquated norms and valuations of men... <image> | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/25 12:05 AM |
| 2 | What's the point of sleeping with someone you aren't attracted to?You gonna keep that same energy for a mid, skinny, nerdy porn addicted guy that's only attracted to insanely attractive pornstars? It's entirely possible to have unhealthy and inflated standards for attraction. Sometimes people need some social pressure to not be shallow and unrealistic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/25 11:54 PM |
| 3 | Is the average Purple Pill user here for debate, or is it something more sinister?I used to put in so much effort into reading and citing studies to support my arguments but you can always find some way to critique and dismiss them. For example send me literally any study on dating behaviors and I can argue people act differently when being observed, and it’s unethical to conduct experiments on people without consent. You might think dating apps are great because they offer tons and tons of anonymized data on dating behaviors in an environment where people don’t feel observed… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/25 04:27 AM |
| 17 | Q4M: why do you no longer court women properly?Almost any young woman that’s not fat can walk to the nearest bar in pajamas and start getting courted. There’s no point in putting in a ton of effort into courting because you’re just another drop in the ocean. A lot of guys are willing to court a woman that’s special, but she gets so much attention that even her future soulmate would initially seem average and mediocre. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/25 04:02 AM |
| – | Andrew Wilson's Force Doctrine: Men have a monopoly on force. Thus, the patriarchy will always exist, because women must ALWAYS appeal to men for their rights.The purpose is to point out we’re not that patriarchal and are evolutionarily trending towards force parity. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/25 02:59 AM |
| 2 | Andrew Wilson's Force Doctrine: Men have a monopoly on force. Thus, the patriarchy will always exist, because women must ALWAYS appeal to men for their rights.Humans evolved to be much less dimorphic over time. Compare human M/F size of like 1.15 to gorillas at 2+. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/25 05:24 AM |
| – | Empathy and coddling are not the same thing.But not every issue is the fault of the victim. You gonna tell the starving kids around the world to not wallow in self pity and go try harder? Not trying to equate first and third world issues but just pointing out that circumstances out of one’s control can most certainly exist. This tends to be a common response to caring about something, but not enough to actually do anything about it beyond just claiming that you care. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/25 04:25 AM |
| – | Women do care about men’s issues….. when it’s not sex related.You’re basically just saying women will empathize with what they want to empathize with. You don’t mind your examples because they don’t really require you to do anything or change anything about yourself aside from just giving some time to listen. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/25 04:06 AM |
| 3 | What options do high income women have?So if you’re super self sufficient and don’t need anything from a guy, it’s going to feel like you’ll just leave at any sign of trouble or imperfection. Your future partner may want to feel needed and useful. Also what expectations come with the “sexual compatibility” part? I feel like a lot of women tend to have extreme standards for physical attraction at first sight but it’s a little more realistic once they get to know a guy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/25 02:44 PM |
| 4 | What options do high income women have?High attaining women are attractive. Just gotta make sure some of the motivation and discipline goes to health and fitness and stay humble. The biggest issue with attractive high attaining women in my experience tends to be the humble part in particular. They tend to have extreme, suffocating, and/or intimidating expectations for a partner but blame the effects of a lot of those on men rather than themselves. They also have a tendency to try to mold men into an antiquated feminine housewife role… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/25 02:24 PM |
| 4 | Why do men want to go to places with hot women if these hot women will reject them?Add in some makeup, alcohol, and dim club lighting and it's quite easy for average women to look like "8s or 9s" at first glance while out. Those "8s or 9s women" the guys are talking about are actually more like 6s or 7s. But yes, those women will inevitably get lots of attention while out and feel like 8s or 9s and get with 8s or 9s men who eventually realize the women are actually 6s and 7s and hit it and quit it. Many of those "8s or 9s" women aren't going to put the same level of effort int… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/25 11:21 PM |
| 0 | Men are cooked, new study shows men are the ones with the biological clock, not women.“Advanced paternal age” is an established term set around 40-45+ for men. Advanced maternal age on the other hand is 35+ for women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/25 09:16 PM |
| 2 | What’s up with some of the men on this sub conflating attractiveness with being a shitty person?Attractiveness may have a small correlation with narcissism and/or ego but I think we can all agree there is no significant correlation with being an asshole. However, can we not agree with the following? - Attractiveness correlates with more attention - Assholes are more likely to remain single - People who don't want a relationship are more likely to remain single Therefore, attractive non-assholes that want a relationship have a higher probability over time of finding and entering a relations… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/25 01:59 AM |
| 19 | How a man interacts appears to be wayyyy more important to female arousal than how a woman interacts is to male arousal.This take is just another flavor of male agency bias and blaming everything on men but it takes two to tango. A theory for the gap in casual sex interest points to women having higher sexual inhibitions. Women with high inhibitions won't get turned on as easily by random people which would explain why "how a man interacts" is important because it helps to lower the inhibitions. However, there are lot of ways she can also lower these herself such as discouraging male threat profiling or rather th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/25 03:31 PM |
| 11 | I realized recently I don't really care about a woman's past if she's upfront and open about her lifestyle.For me the main concern is symmetry in lifestyle and experience. I don't mind a woman having a high body count if I also have a high body count. However casual sex was extremely hard to get for me growing up so I did not have a high body count and didn't want a relationship with a woman whose body count was higher and had vastly different experiences and lifestyle than me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/25 02:54 PM |
| – | Q4M: Does women shaming your sexuality feel dehumanizing?I mean I guess in the literal sense calling men's sexuality animalistic is technically "dehumanizing". However, I wouldn't say it feels that dehumanizing, more like just experiencing sexism. For comparison, having women view you with contempt as subhuman and unworthy of consideration simply because you're short or average height most definitely feels very dehumanizing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/10/25 06:24 PM |
| 1 | There is no guarantee that the ugly autistic man would be a good husband/fatherThere’s no correlation between attractiveness and husbandly/fatherly traits. However, a man that is (A) attractive, (B) wants a relationship, and (C) is a good husband/father will get taken off the market more easily than a man who is not attractive, is an asshole, or does not want a relationship. This leaves behind a lot of attractive single men that are not fatherly, or don’t want relationships. Since men tend to have the expectation of agency, women see a lot of the men into them but can’t ea… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/10/25 05:06 PM |
| 2 | So, if women are truly only attracted to 1% of men, they can't help it and they shouldn't be shamedYes thank you, this exactly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/25 06:26 PM |
| 2 | So, if women are truly only attracted to 1% of men, they can't help it and they shouldn't be shamedIt ultimately boils down to the nature vs nurture debate. This opinion leans nature i.e. women are biologically inclined to be super selective and can’t help it. That may very well be so. However, feminism tends to lean VERY heavily pro nurture and often argues socialization influences things. It’s annoying when the nature vs nurture debate seems to contort to always benefit women and detriment men. If you are pro nature in the debate then you also need to be pro nature for men which means a lot… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/25 04:15 PM |
| 7 | Q4M: if you refuse to approach, does that help or hurt the loneliness epidemic?Back in the day before misandry and doxxing became more mainstream I would ask random attractive women in the college dining hall that were eating alone if I could join them. It resulted in a few dates but more commonly resulted in platonic friends. Being friends with women resulted in more socialization by and around women which lead to more empathy and understanding of women, more desirable behavior around women, and more comfort and confidence around women. Back then women weren’t as cultural… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/25 03:21 PM |
| 3 | Men should increase thier standards and be ready to be single if they dont get what they want.Late to the thread but just want to point out... you mentioned men will sleep with any non-fat woman but you noticed "only the top 30-40% of women seem to get most men's attention or attraction". Sadly, according to NIH data, 27.5% of women are overweight and 41.9% are obese. So those top 30-40% of women you mentioned are literally and sadly just the non-fat women. Men's obesity is also bad - 34.1% overweight and 43% obese. However, I think a lot of guys tend to look better with more weight. A l… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/10/25 03:17 AM |
| 2 | Q4M: Why would anyone be ok with dating down?You seem to associate "dating down" as dating someone with less ambition and success. I think a lot of guys already do indirectly select for this because ambition and success correlates with discipline, impulse control, and motivation, and those qualities correlate with fitness, health, and looking more attractive. If a woman is ambitious but not disciplined or motivated, she's not as likely to be successful nor as likely to look fit and healthy. If she can't even take care of herself, how is sh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/10/25 02:36 AM |
| 10 | Tinder and Instagram have the same results as PornYou agree**. What you’re saying is exactly what I mean by pathologize vs normalize. As you say, there are popular campaigns against men’s standards such as body positivity for fat women. But if you try to push body positivity for something like height suddenly the narrative shifts. This is because men’s standards for thin women get pathologized but women’s standards for tall men get normalized. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/25 05:21 PM |
| 1 | You have two options - which one would you go for?Option 2 is awesome. Casual weekly sex with a non-committal 10/10 while I can keep looking for a non prude version of option 1. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/25 11:24 PM |
| 26 | Tinder and Instagram have the same results as PornI think the digital age has lots of effects on both men and women but the biggest issue is that effects on men’s standards are more likely to be pathologized but effects on women’s standards are just downplayed and normalized as the new status quo. “Women just aren’t oppressed anymore”. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/25 03:53 PM |
| – | Men think they are more attractive than they really areDon’t forget the “it’s impossible to replicate” part. You can’t ethically make a study that observes women selecting in an environment where they don’t know or feel like they are being observed and would feel comfortable being as brutally selective as they want to be. Also the first link is MIT technology review, not some random news site. Also they link the study at the bottom: http://arxiv.org/abs/1607.01952 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/25 11:33 PM |
| – | Men think they are more attractive than they really areMen have the expectation of agency and tend to approach women. The only thing you know about a random woman to approach is her looks, so guys will just go for any woman above a looks threshold which may include women “out of their league” but you never know. Guys also tend to have higher standards for life than for a night, so many guys actually approach women below their long term league open to sex/fun but wouldn’t commit to them. Any port in a storm. However, if you inundate a 5/10 woman with… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/25 11:28 PM |
| – | Men think they are more attractive than they really areIt’s impossible to fully replicate because it relies on observing women selecting in an environment in which they don’t know they are being observed, nor feel observed, which is unethical for a formal study. When women feel observed or judged they will select differently than on apps or with strangers IRL. Also dating apps don’t publicize anonymized data because they’re smart businesses that don’t want their primary paying demographic to lose hope and quit. There are other studies like this one … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/25 11:12 PM |
| 2 | Sex is emotional for men, tooBad? I’m saying one’s wife is not just a 24/7 provider of sex and it’s quite healthy and normal to relieve yourself through other means. Are you saying the opposite? Also guys do seek and need intimate connection so when guys are more intimacy starved they prefer the examples OP mentioned. However, guys can also have sex without emotional connection. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/25 11:37 PM |
| -5 | Sex is emotional for men, tooA lot of your emotional sex examples are from lonely single guys specifically seeking emotional connection being generalized and applied to all men. If you look specifically at guys who are in a relationship and have good emotional connection, I think you’ll find many can and do unemotionally jerk off to random hot women on the internet simply because it’s unrealistic to expect your SO to be ready to rock n roll every time you’re horny. As you say, she’s not a tissue. Your bond is deeper than ju… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/25 09:31 PM |
| 0 | Men want women to settle for themWomen often calibrate their expectations of how hot their life partner should be based on the upper distribution of men giving them attention… many of whom only have short term interest and are out of her league and have better long term options that just aren’t around or available at the moment. Men have vastly different standards for a lay vs for life so men will entertain less desirable women for something casual and short term. When men want women to realize this, it’s not wanting women to s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/25 09:05 PM |
| – | Highly attractive humans being bad doesn't corelate with realityIt’s not that attractive correlates with “bad”. Attractive and “good” correlates more with “taken”. Women desire men who are both attractive and good but often filter for attractiveness first and then search for good. So, it’s entirely possible for women set the initial filter too high such that any man who is both attractive and good has other better options, the maximum balance of attractive and good was already filtered out, so all she encounters is bad men or men that aren’t into her. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/25 03:56 PM |
| – | Are there really other kind of women on dating apps and real life?Many IRL women cycle on and off dating apps. Some IRL women may just never need dating apps as they get plenty of attention IRL. As far as differences go, people who are “single for a reason” are, unsurprisingly, more likely to be single, and there’s a larger percentage of those people active in the single population and on dating apps. For dating app women, the most popular “single for a reason” reason tends to be toxic, unrealistic, or inflated standards for men that prevent them from meeting … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/25 03:18 PM |
| 18 | Dance events or classes are a preferable alternative to dating appsI’ve done free hobby (social, non pro) dance classes for around 12 semesters now across undergrad and grad school. If you start warming up to someone at dance, everyone else sees that. If you try to flirt with multiple people everyone sees that too. If you start dating and break up, either one of you stops dance or you have to keep dancing with that person and everyone sees that as well. A lot of people also feel uncomfortable dancing with someone they know is attracted to them, and it’s impossi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/25 02:23 AM |
| 9 | Men think Being A Passive Submissive guy is Being Nice Then Claim Women Don’t Want Nice Guys.It’s the extent of pushoverness that is extreme, not the situations. Just because a guy is a simp for his SO doesn’t automatically mean he’s that way for everyone in every aspect of his life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/09/25 07:30 PM |
| 2 | Men think Being A Passive Submissive guy is Being Nice Then Claim Women Don’t Want Nice Guys.Hmm if we’re only talking about the most extreme case here then sure. But I think what’s more common in reality is that the “nice guys” passed up by women for being more passive or agreeable aren’t that way to an extreme, and being with them could indeed be quite nice depending on the relationship dynamic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/09/25 07:14 PM |
| 11 | Men think Being A Passive Submissive guy is Being Nice Then Claim Women Don’t Want Nice Guys.If you take it to that much of an extreme, anything can destroy a marriage. Like suppose some dude is too into hiking... How is their marriage going to survive when hiking comes above the relationship? Who is going to take care of the household when he's out hiking all the time? Who will provide if he quits his job and just hikes all the time!? Just because a guy is more passive and/or agreeable doesn't mean he's that way to an extreme in every aspect of life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/09/25 06:50 PM |
| 23 | Men think Being A Passive Submissive guy is Being Nice Then Claim Women Don’t Want Nice Guys.I feel like this is sort of a "thinking with your dick" situation but for women. The best life long partner for a woman isn't always a tall, dominant, competitive, and/or assertive guy. A lot of women may benefit from guys that are more passive, agreeable, and open-minded, especially if those women aren't a pushover themselves. Passive/submissive guys are going to be WAY easier to live with after all the sex butterflies die down than with some obstinate chad that wants everything his way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/09/25 04:39 PM |
| 0 | The rejection that women go through is worse than that of menRejection feels "worse" if you're too picky. It's like devoting an hour to drive to the grocery store, carefully picking out the best looking apple, driving all the way back, and then finally trying your apple only to discover its rotten on the inside. You think "ugggh I wasted all that time for this". Meanwhile, another person just goes to the grocery store, picks out a few apples, and ends up being pleasantly surprised when they find one they really like. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/09/25 02:37 PM |
| 3 | There has never been a gender war only war on womenMen and women have complete legal equality nowadays in western countries. The only remaining issues are statistical inequalities stemming from sociocultural beliefs or biology-specific issues like abortion. Sociocultural beliefs are subjective and vary across communities and cultures and thus require advocation from all sides. However, feminism, a women's movement, tends to whip its dick out and dominate the progressive landscape. I highly encourage you to dig into how people subjectively define… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/09/25 02:57 AM |
| 1 | There is no dating app dataYou can infer a lot about users just with times and locations and stuff. Like two users that matched with each other, similar locations, exchanged numbers, both deviating from typical usage around the same time and dark for the same time… good chance they’re on a date. Happens a few times and then they both uninstall? Relationship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/25 03:37 AM |
| 2 | There is no dating app dataI'm explaining why the data sucks, not arguing for nor against the redpill claims. OkCupid did not do exactly that. They did not publish the data, only limited results/findings. It's mainly just Rudder and most of the stuff is just in his book Dataclysm (that I've read btw). What advantage do dating apps gain by releasing their data? Are you kidding me? Imagine how big of a sales pitch it would be to provably show the apps work well. For just $wtvr/month you can find love as an average guy and h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/25 12:14 AM |
| 3 | There is no dating app dataEven MIT did the same thing that dude did in his blog post, just at a larger scale - creating mock profiles and measuring attention. Speaking of which, they found that men match with 0.6 percent of the women they swipe on while women match with about 10% of the women they swipe on. Dating apps could easily publish anonymized data for actual better studies but they absolutely refuse to do so. Have you ever stopped to wonder why they might not want to do that? The majority of the user base is male… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/09/25 09:54 PM |
| 8 | It’s not dating apps or feminism that have raised women’s standards—it’s the removal of pressureI think you’re conflating feminism with women’s rights. Keep in mind feminism has had several waves now. The first wave or two were mostly about legal rights and parity but now it’s mostly just sociocultural norms. For example, do you remember the whole “manspreading” craze where feminists were berating men for sitting with their legs spread? What you speak of was feminism. Doesn’t mean all waves of feminism are bad, nor removing pressure for women to marry is bad. The problem is that feminism… … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/09/25 08:24 PM |
| – | Q4M: Ever reject a woman for being too perfect?You might self sabotage but not explicitly reject them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/25 11:12 AM |
| – | I'd like to see an AI that accepts a photo and creates an assortment of images of the opposite sex that are statistically equivalent in attractiveness. I think that would go a long way towards dispelling a lot of delusion in 2025 dating.Dating is a market that varies by location and age and AI isn't going to generalize well across all dating localities and ages. The best way to do this right now is through a localized page rank approach. Within some locality and age group, measure inbound and outbound likes/messages for people on something like a dating app. People who receive more likes/messages are ranked higher, and the likes/messages they give out are also worth more. This will appraise one's market value and you can also c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/25 10:27 PM |
| 24 | 'Tea App' rage just proves men cannot handle being treated like women.There’s a huge difference between localized gossip and anonymized defamation at scale. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/25 02:32 AM |
| 1 | Polyandry is the answer to male lonelinessThis is only true for younger demographics. The dating gender power imbalance inverts later. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/25 02:18 AM |
| 28 | 'Tea App' rage just proves men cannot handle being treated like women.The rage is because it’s a gossip doxxing app that treats men like products masquerading under the unchallengeable guise of “women’s safety”. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/25 01:55 AM |
| 2 | Why are you in this sub ? And what make you stay there ?I grew up struggling with dating but things got much much better as I got older. I hate how normalized it is to blame things collectively on men/patriarchy but trying to blame anything collectively on women is dismissed as “incel” behavior. People are hellbent on having young men struggling with dating blaming and hating themselves so as a married guy I’m happy to jump in and blame women where applicable. Call me an incel, I literally couldn’t care less. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/25 06:23 PM |
| 7 | If a Guy is Toxic, Women Won’t Entertain Him (Looks Be Damned).Have you tried talking to women about this? I know women that aren’t even ashamed to admit their “type” is literally “fresh out of prison”. It’s fairly common. Most men would get used and abused by a super hot woman too if they could but (thankfully?) never have to worry about ever actually being in that situation. Oh, I know I should say no But it's kind of hard when she's ready to go I may be dumb, but I'm not a dweeb I'm just a sucker with no self-esteem | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/25 04:05 AM |
| – | Commitment from a man with no other options means nothing realistically.You aren’t the only woman on earth. Tons of other (more attractive) women are also filtering through attractive guys and actively taking quality off the market. As time goes on, attractive guys become more and more likely to still be single for a reason. All men aren’t trash, you just keep digging though it because you have unrealistic physical expectations of men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/25 05:04 AM |
| 1 | People are so naive thinking Tea app will hinder dating lives of men posted thereA lot of top 20% guys are going to find themselves in situations where women fall for them, get upset, and then seek retribution through tea. I think most women would not feel comfortable with guys being able to see/hear "tea" from all their exes but that pretty much sounds like the purpose of the app. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/25 09:47 PM |
| 9 | You can’t expect women to take men’s issues seriously, when you point out inequities but never go into the context of itMy point is that men have grown up seeing women do the exact same thing in reverse. A lot of times it’s not even relevant to the time or place. Women will use deceptive facts from the past like women couldn’t have bank accounts to “point their fingers and blame men/patriarchy and try to show women are the victim” in the present. For the record, it was not illegal for a woman to hold a bank account prior to the 1960s. It was harder and less common because women not having jobs was a norm back the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/25 01:15 PM |
| 12 | You can’t expect women to take men’s issues seriously, when you point out inequities but never go into the context of itWhen I was still in high school I remember seeing a page on whitehouse.gov about "full-time working women earn just 77 cents for every dollar a man earns". You seem to be calling out men for taking stuff out of context to further an agenda but we grew up learning from the best. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/25 01:38 AM |
| 2 | Those of you 30+ and are/were single at this age: did you start getting "flooded with attention" the moment you turned 30?Eighteen to mid twenties women’s dating mantra is “shoot for the moon”. Around mid 20s it shifts to “even if you miss you’ll land among the stars”. As an average guy the turning point for me was around late 20s. For the first time in my life I was getting too much attention from attractive women and could finally start having standards about other things. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/25 01:09 AM |
| 12 | Have you ever benefited from gender-specific privileges?One time I gave a girl a ride to class and she reminded to me put my parking pass out and then realized it was already there because I keep it out all the time. She commented that she stopped doing that because a guy used the parking pass to stalk her car to the school parking lot and waited for her to get back from class to talk to her. As an average guy you don’t ever have to worry about stuff like that but it’s because women are never that crazy about you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/25 03:58 AM |
| 0 | What alternatives to therapy would you like society to provide?For sure but there’s some circular logic in there that the men are struggling with dating because of those feelings and the feelings are coming from struggling with dating. If you just instead focus on helping to eliminate the struggling with dating part for young men it all goes away and no need for therapy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/25 02:15 AM |
| 1 | What alternatives to therapy would you like society to provide?A lot of people on Reddit calling men incels and telling them to go to therapy suffer from a superiority complex and/or misandry. It's not therapy that needs to change, it's who needs to go to therapy and why. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/25 03:37 PM |
| 3 | The market depicts your value, not youThe market isn’t entirely fair though because men have the expectation to approach. Imagine two people selling lemonade of the exact same quality but one person is able to setup a nice stand somewhere and sit back and relax while people that want lemonade come to them, while the other has to go around harassing people on a beach or something. The stand will have an easier time and set their price much higher than the person hauling their lemonade around and harassing people on the beach despite … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/25 03:22 PM |
| 3 | I don’t think men are “intimidated” by strong independent womenThis post is a reaction to women being incredibly generalizing of men, particularly the widespread generalization that men are intimidated by women that are taller, stronger, smarter, or higher attaining than them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/25 11:42 PM |
| 1 | Assuming you'll never enter a romantic relationship should be the default rather than a "worst case" outcome.Well duh, that was my own opinion not a quote. I very strongly believe that modern media, especially social media, can perturb people’s perspectives of what perfectly normal and healthy relationships look like. You mention people being “discontent when faced with reality” and claim the problem is pressure to be in a relationship but I disagree. That is literally the definition of “unrealistic”. The problem isn’t wanting to be in relationship, it’s whatever is poisoning people’s perspectives of r… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/25 08:51 PM |
| 2 | Assuming you'll never enter a romantic relationship should be the default rather than a "worst case" outcome.The media can also create unhealthy and unrealistic standards of what real relationships actually look like. You say things like “there are statistically not enough good men out there for every woman” but that mentality is what’s actually the problem. Men think if they can’t get a relationship they’re not a “good man” and women think they deserve the perfect man and feel discontent when they can’t get their fairytale Prince Charming. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/25 12:12 PM |
| 6 | You cannot make comparisons between sexual autonomy and freedom and taxation/monetary system/currency/resources. They are morally unbound and any attempt to compare them is sickSo if a guy is addicted to porn or insta models, tough luck? Too bad so sad? Women just aren’t good enough and need to be hotter? If older guys are into younger women, no problem? Your assertion that “nobody else can deem somebody’s standards unreasonable or unrealistic” is a double standard. Only women’s standards are off limits for deeming unreasonable or unrealistic. In my opinion, all standards for everyone should be subject to critique and we should be able to call out toxic, unhealthy, and… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/25 10:20 AM |
| 2 | Why do men interpret women’s disinterest as hostility?Well we are on a sub about dating which is a domain where women do tend to have a little more power and control and is arguably matriarchal. So if you recontextualize feminist concepts into modern times without any of that antiquated past patriarchy pizazz, localize it to a dating domain, attempt to rationalize the vast canyon of difference in dating between dating-focused young men/women, and add in a little dash of online extremization spice, you get some takes like that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/25 12:36 AM |
| 8 | You cannot make comparisons between sexual autonomy and freedom and taxation/monetary system/currency/resources. They are morally unbound and any attempt to compare them is sickYou’re arguing against two things here simultaneously. (1) can’t compare love and sex to anything economic or resource based and (2) sex isn’t a right and sexual socialism is amoral. Love and sex can 100% be viewed through a framework of behavioral economics and doing so doesn’t imply you believe in government mandated sex UBI or something. This is an extremely common, annoying, fallacious mechanism for shutting down any discussion of unrealistic standards by equating it to rape. Talking about m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/25 10:17 PM |
| 1 | Existence of cuckold porn proves that more men than you think want to be cuckedIf the theories are true, it could explain why so many women prefer tall men as partners. However, men don’t seem to prefer slutty, promiscuous, unfaithful women as partners. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/25 02:47 AM |
| 1 | Do high value girls never get ghosted after a (casual) hookup?Likelihood of being ghosted is, in general, more about how attractive you are relative to your hookup’s other options. If an attractive woman hooks up with a guy that’s used to hooking up with a lot of attractive women, she’s more likely to seem “average” to him, not high value. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/25 02:24 AM |
| 7 | Women who “expose” a man for being a terrible person after they break up aren’t good peopleThat’s their alleged purpose but they aren’t restricted to just that. For example, I saw a woman on there blast an ex for not having custody of one of his kids. A lot of the post templates are just a pic of a dude, first name, and a tea emoji asking for any gossip on the dude. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/25 09:40 PM |
| 3 | Women who “expose” a man for being a terrible person after they break up aren’t good peopleAre We Dating the Same Guy groups would like to have a word with you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/25 09:23 PM |
| – | The "orgasm gap" is primarily due to women behaving passively and lacking initiative during sex. Women expect men to take full responsibility for both of their orgasms and usually do nothing to help themselves climax.Well my experience was the opposite of your opposite. When I was single I had a decent amount of options and was naturally more excited about more attractive women. But, more attractive women were often more likely to be less excited about me because to them I likely seemed more "average", while less attractive (but still reasonably attractive) women were more excited about me because to them I likely seemed "hotter". The more attractive the woman, the more willing I am to go above and beyond. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/25 12:52 AM |
| – | The "orgasm gap" is primarily due to women behaving passively and lacking initiative during sex. Women expect men to take full responsibility for both of their orgasms and usually do nothing to help themselves climax.No, it's in female nature to find a guy that is VERY attractive to fuck, and not give a shit about her own pleasure because the act of having sex with that attractive of man is pleasurable enough even without an orgasm. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/25 12:29 AM |
| 1 | Hot take: men and women can be friends and men-women friendships can be a good thingThere are settings like hospitals or restaurants where the men and women have lots of sex and are even still friends. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/25 12:08 AM |
| – | The "orgasm gap" is primarily due to women behaving passively and lacking initiative during sex. Women expect men to take full responsibility for both of their orgasms and usually do nothing to help themselves climax.It's not just male nature, it is human nature. Women will also be more selfless in bed with more relatively attractive men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/25 11:59 PM |
| – | The "orgasm gap" is primarily due to women behaving passively and lacking initiative during sex. Women expect men to take full responsibility for both of their orgasms and usually do nothing to help themselves climax.I’m talking about casual sex, casual dating, or early phases of dating. You don’t care that deeply about someone you just met on the dance floor a few hours ago and are never going to see again, but you will be more selfless in bed with them if they’re really freaking hot (relative to your other options or what you’re used to). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/25 11:38 PM |
| – | The "orgasm gap" is primarily due to women behaving passively and lacking initiative during sex. Women expect men to take full responsibility for both of their orgasms and usually do nothing to help themselves climax.The reality for most people in dating is that the people you are most into are not as into you. This is because everyone tends to pursue a little aspirationally and will go for people more desirable than themselves. Speaking of which, the entire OnlyFans industry is founded on the idea that people are willing to undergo more one-sided behavior for more attractive individuals. Many guys will change their sexual behavior based on the attractiveness of their sexual partner, or survive a dryspell by… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/25 10:55 PM |
| -2 | The "orgasm gap" is primarily due to women behaving passively and lacking initiative during sex. Women expect men to take full responsibility for both of their orgasms and usually do nothing to help themselves climax.I mean duh women need to be able to communicate their interests. But also they need to be with a guy willing to listen and that’s probably not the super hot guy with tons of other eager options waiting for him. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/25 12:09 AM |
| 2 | In a world where you could easily have casual sex with women, would you still prefer to marry/LTR/commit to a “low n” woman?I think there’s some small biological differences that become greatly pronounced at modern mass scale. Like maybe a male is 5% more likely than a female to want sex but when you have 10000 males and 10000 females and 5% of the women want sex right now vs 10% of the men now you’ve got 1000 dudes competing for 500 women. As time goes on, the women get used to experiencing a surplus of attention and start getting socialized to be more picky and selective about casual sex while the opposite happens … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/25 10:03 PM |
| – | Men face more sexism than womenJust an example analogy but Reddit‘s content policy doesn’t prohibit sexism, it prohibits “hate” against “marginalized or vulnerable groups” which can be interpreted to exclude men. So the real debate isn’t really in convincing people that men face just as much sexism. It’s more about convincing people that men can also be vulnerable and misandry is actually a problem. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/25 09:37 PM |
| 2 | In a world where you could easily have casual sex with women, would you still prefer to marry/LTR/commit to a “low n” woman?One’s experiences include seeing other experiences and asymmetry. From a heteronormative perspective, people tend to grow up seeing sex easy for women to get so it’s perceived as more of an indulgence, while sex is harder for men to get so it’s seen as more of a rarity/luxury or high status signal. A bi man will grow up seeing a lot of straight people and many instances of the asymmetry. Inversely, however, not a lot of people see and experience a ton of bi men getting tons of sex. So the bi man… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/25 08:58 PM |
| 1 | In a world where you could easily have casual sex with women, would you still prefer to marry/LTR/commit to a “low n” woman?Asymmetries in perception come from asymmetries in experience. Men would have much more similar views to women not just about n-count, but sex overall, if they grow up in a world with less casual sexual asymmetry. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/25 07:42 PM |
| 1 | How many people here are happily married/in longterm relationships? If so, what is your perspective on the common themes and posts in this sub?Straight 31M engaged. You’ll often see me on here encouraging women to have more realistic physical standards. This is because the difference between dating at 18 and late 20s for me was night and day which led me to strongly believe in a massive desirability gap for younger men and women. If you take comparably desirable men and women in their 30s and 40s and magically turn them back to 18, most of the women will seem hotter. Also men become more emotionally attractive as they gain experience w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/25 03:36 AM |
| 1 | Men need to have higher standards.Around 18-25 I was guilty of this because attention from attractive women was so hard to come by. 25+ I started getting more attention from attractive women and then I started being more picky about other things. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/25 03:50 PM |
| 1 | “Men are looking for clean water in a desert while women are looking for clean water in a swamp” is the most misandrist analogy I ever heardIt comes from the expectation of agency placed on men and aspirational pursuit. Both men and women will approach potential mates that are comparable or more desirable. Both men and women have a "swamp" of opportunities with less desirable mates. However, men don't get approached by those less desirable mates, nor do men approach those less desirable mates. I think misandry can play a factor in defining and influencing what is 'comparable' though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/25 06:20 PM |
| 2 | Why don't men want to date single moms?Modern society tends to encourage people to grow and experience together and stigmatizes relationships between people in different phases and stages of life. Age-gapped relationships are also an example of this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/25 07:37 PM |
| – | "I see far more attractive women than men" shows that beauty standards for women are not highOr the beauty standards for men are too high. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/25 02:08 PM |
| 2 | Women have sexual needs just as much as men do if not more soWhat is your body type? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/25 12:02 AM |
| 1 | Women have sexual needs just as much as men do if not more soBut how hard is it for you to get those needs met? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/25 11:37 PM |
| 2 | Q4M: Does "Choose better" assume there's an abundance of good options?Women have zero investment in gestation, birth, or child rearing as well if they don’t have sex, hence the evolutionary link with selectivity. I don’t know if you’ve been living under a rock for the last hundred thousand years but quite a lot has changed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/25 03:42 AM |
| 3 | Q4M: Does "Choose better" assume there's an abundance of good options?Right the evolution worked exactly as it should for ancient women that had a higher chance of incurring those risks. However now there’s contraceptives, birth control, Plan B, and abortion. Modern women have a much lower risk compared to ancient women of getting pregnant but still have the vestigial high selectivity, hence the evolutionary mismatch. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/25 02:18 AM |
| 12 | Q4M: Does "Choose better" assume there's an abundance of good options?As a woman you pretty much just have to not be fat and there will be a lot of men that find you attractive. Even if you’re fat there are STILL a lot of men that are into that lol. Men’s physical attraction isn’t as bad of an evolutionary mismatch as women’s because guys tend to be physically attracted to a lot of women and have an easier time choosing a woman that is both a good choice and attractive (provided she actually likes him back). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/25 07:09 PM |
| 1 | Is it true most guys would cheat given the opportunity?Depends on how you define cheating. If you define cheating to include masturbating then A LOT of men would cheat. If you define cheating to include watching porn then, similarly, a lot of men cheat. If you define cheating to exclude unemotional, purely physical sex then extremely few men would cheat. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/25 07:05 PM |
| 13 | Q4M: Does "Choose better" assume there's an abundance of good options?Oh yea guys pull out that mental tape measure and have to make sure women’s hip to waist ratio is exactly 1.618033988749895 which is why women have such a hard time getting attention from men (sarcasm). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/25 06:23 PM |
| 2 | Dating apps are not a good indicator of real life datingMany of the same phenomena occur in real life too, it’s just harder to study. Dating apps present us with easily quantifiable and usable data. People act differently when they know they’re being observed and it’s not really ethical or practical to spy on tens of thousands of dates and real life interactions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/25 03:16 AM |
| 3 | Misogyny causes violence against women. Misandry causes hurt feelings.Car accidents are most likely to occur on roads. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/25 05:03 AM |
| 1 | Q4M: would you date a slob?Depends on the slobbery. All of those combined probably not. Some of those are forgivable or explainable like I had piles of dirty dishes growing up that went away once I had access to my own dishwasher. I spent months using a cardboard box as my table and the floor as my seat after moving into a big city apartment after college and staggering furniture purchases over time. Also I don’t think I’ve ever met a woman with a clean car. Most women’s cars are like big purses. I don’t really care thoug… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/25 02:41 AM |
| 1 | Q4All - How do we adjust the education system to suit boys? Does this NPR podcast series "Falling Behind: The Miseducation of America's Boys" present the issue fairly?I haven't given it a listen yet but I will. I have read Reeves' book tho so I have a pretty good idea of his views. In my opinion the problem isn't "how schooling is done" so much as "companies paying women less for equal work" is the problem with the pay gap. Companies don't pay women less for equal work, they pay women less for less work. Women work less hours and choose more flexible, lower paying jobs with better benefits and work-life balance because of the cultural expectation of caretakin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/25 09:30 PM |
| 0 | Feminists somehow acknowledge men being expected to be breadwinners, stoic protectors and pursuers under "patriarchy hurts men too" while they simultaneously tell men their dating issues have nothing to do with society or women.Right but when women are more free to pursue what they want in a partner, those wants are more likely to stem from existing, rampant, antiquated ideals like the protector-provider norm. You can’t just encourage women to choose what they want (choice feminism), you also need to encourage those choices to actually align with feminist ideals. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/25 09:10 PM |
| 0 | Feminists somehow acknowledge men being expected to be breadwinners, stoic protectors and pursuers under "patriarchy hurts men too" while they simultaneously tell men their dating issues have nothing to do with society or women.Existing choices minus protector-provider influenced valuations like height, status, income. The most successful man in dating, in general, would most likely be of average height (because no correlation), average attainment (because no correlation), healthy and fit but not roided up, have attractive facial features (nothing to do with protector-provider), and have a lot of caretaker qualities (equal caretaker). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/25 08:36 PM |
| 0 | Feminists somehow acknowledge men being expected to be breadwinners, stoic protectors and pursuers under "patriarchy hurts men too" while they simultaneously tell men their dating issues have nothing to do with society or women.Feminism doesn’t directly expect men to be breadwinners and protectors, but by devoting a ton of energy to empowering women’s choice and not as much energy to updating and modernizing those choices, this effectively empowers women’s choices founded on existing, antiquated, ideals like protector-provider. Modern feminism is just choice feminism and is incapable of effecting any change on women that counteracts women’s choices, even if those choices are based on antiquated ideals. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/25 07:53 PM |
| 1 | Men do not love more unconditionally than women- men and women have different types of conditions of love.I’ve seen research saying that men are more likely than women to seek divorce if their partner becomes disabled. I’ve also seen research that women are more likely than men to seek divorce when their partner loses their job. So I think what you say is true for continuation of love, men and women have different conditions. However, when it comes to falling in love, I think men in general have less conditions. While men value attractiveness, they also tend to find a lot of women attractive. There’… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/25 12:24 PM |
| -1 | Most men don't want to face the truth.Men tie their self-worth to women's perceptions because they see successful men also having a lot of success with women and associate the two together. It is ultimately up to women to update and modernize their standards to stop valuing men by antiquated ideals. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/04/25 04:07 PM |
| 1 | Trendline established, as of 2023 top 5% responsible for 50% of all sex; sexual loneliness seen as public health concernWell according to behavioral psychologist and dating coach Logan Ury only 11% of couples experience love at first sight. Tons of women also give personal accounts of falling in love with men they weren’t initially attracted to. In the words of comedian Leslie Liao joking about being a straight woman “I’m attracted to men but I don’t find them attractive”. So, I think a major modern dating disconnect comes from women using only that 11% initial physical attractiveness and spark to filter guys. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/23 05:07 PM |
| 0 | Trendline established, as of 2023 top 5% responsible for 50% of all sex; sexual loneliness seen as public health concernMost men already tend to have fairly low and attainable initial physical standards. I’m saying that women have a logical reason to lower their physical standards a little bit due to the requirement of additional effort for sexual pleasure. Women can’t just connect with a comparably desirable guy and expect equal sexual effort, they need a little more sexual effort. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/23 03:40 PM |
| 2 | Trendline established, as of 2023 top 5% responsible for 50% of all sex; sexual loneliness seen as public health concernYou’re analogizing men pursuing ‘ugly’ women but men are not the ones requiring more sexual effort to please. Also, you immediately equating what I’m saying to women pursuing ‘ugly’ men is a perfect example of how women get socially discouraged. Saying stuff like that makes women feel bad if the guy they’re talking to isn’t some 6’4” patriarchal stud. What women need is encouragement to talk to more physically average guys to afford more opportunity to discover quality and sexual effort. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/23 03:11 PM |
| 2 | Trendline established, as of 2023 top 5% responsible for 50% of all sex; sexual loneliness seen as public health concernAu contraire, I want women to enjoy sex. Most women don’t get off from the most basic natural form of sex required for conception: vaginal intercourse. Thus, women inherently require more effort to sexually please which presents an inherent asymmetry to relationships. Who do you think is more willing to put in effort to sexually pleasing a woman: a guy with tons of options, or a guy with less options? A dominant guy, or a submissive guy? The orgasm gap today comes from women being socially disco… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/23 03:02 PM |
| 1 | What would society look like if men were less horny?To me that kind of sounds like “I only interact with/date top percentile men syndrome”. Most guys don’t have access to casual sex at all. And speaking from experience, I was super into casual sex until I fell for a FWB that cut me off and that shit hurts. Finally getting access to casual sex helped mature my interests and figure out what I want in a woman. In my opinion, if it seems like guys don’t want to settle down it’s probably because women make it too hard for them to explore and mature. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/23 04:19 AM |
| 8 | Trendline established, as of 2023 top 5% responsible for 50% of all sex; sexual loneliness seen as public health concernTbh I feel like the problem is feminism has morally demonized men so much that you can just casually mention rounding men up into camps and force castrating them on Reddit without a worry in the world. Why don’t we just apply feminist principles to women? Socially encourage women to stop valuing guys for antiquated protector-provider traits and value things like caretaking more (not just in addition to protector-provider qualities). And stop letting women’s supremacists and misandrists demonize … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/23 04:14 AM |
| 3 | Why do bossbabe women complain about not being able to find a man?Have you ever heard of the loneliness epidemic? It’s related to that. There’s lots of research on the effect of loneliness on life expectancy: Loneliness has been estimated to shorten a person’s life by 15 years, equivalent in impact to being obese or smoking 15 cigarettes per day The study in my earlier comment hints that this may be why parents live longer than childless adults. Correlation does not prove causation so it may be the reason just as how not having kids may increase your happiness… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/23 06:06 PM |
| 8 | Why do bossbabe women complain about not being able to find a man?Does the research control for choice? I hypothesize that there are significantly more parents by accident than childfree by accident and it’s the choice that influences happiness. Research also indicates Having children is associated with increased longevity, particularly in an absolute sense in old age. That the association increased with parents' age and was somewhat stronger for the non-married may suggest that social support is a possible explanation. So if older parents are so unhappy, why … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/23 05:20 PM |
| 4 | Why do men feel entitled to romance and or intimacy?One could call someone entitled for being hungry and wanting food, but we don’t normally do that because the desire for food is considered normal and acceptable. Humans tend to naturally want love and sex but we pathologize men desiring it as entitlement. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/11/23 08:20 PM |
| 29 | Young men (18-25) must bring something to the table, young women just bring themselves.Education and job start to matter once you pass men’s bare minimum physical attractiveness threshold which for a lot of men is just don’t be overweight. Also, if you give a guy lots of attractive options he’ll focus on other things like education, job, etc. Unfortunately, since women are so goddamn picky, men have to constantly fixate on scavenging for women willing to actually give them a chance who meet their bare minimum threshold of attractiveness. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/23 04:32 AM |
| 1 | Women are extremely selective and that's okay.Right but women can’t date every man on earth. They have to employ some strategy to cut down options to manageable levels, and many women employ similar strategies like filtering based on height that result in guys like my ex roommate receiving a disproportionate amount of attention. There’s nothing wrong with filtering based on shallow qualities. Everyone does it. However, there are two inevitable truths in modern dating: (1) physical attractiveness has little to do with quality and (2) high qu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/23 05:17 PM |
| 5 | CMV: Women don’t have high standards. Below average guys keep thinking they are average.That’s all I could get for casual sex at 18 because of age-based desirability asymmetry. For relationships, on the other hand, my longest in college was with a super fit and attractive ballroom dancer turned CS major. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/23 11:22 PM |
| 1 | Are men here weaponizing their victimhood against women?Using history against modern men is rather over-sighted. It’s an amorphous concept of injury ageless in its reach into the past. History shouldn’t be used as a weapon of shame and oppression against boys in the present who had absolutely nothing to do with it. Boys today need to be empowered just as much as girls and I bet the growing gender educational divide is a direct result of our inability to realize it’s not 1970 anymore. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/23 05:07 PM |
| 7 | CMV: Women don’t have high standards. Below average guys keep thinking they are average.Are you defining average by number of sexual partners? I lost my virginity to a bridge troll just to get it out of the way. Number of sexual partners isn’t a good measure of women’s standards or guy’s perception of averageness. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/23 04:06 PM |
| – | Are men here weaponizing their victimhood against women?I mean I grew up in an era where the top of the class was almost all women. Many women got scholarships devoted exclusively to women. The women went to college, met the provider husband of their dreams, and then happily and willingly accepted more flexible, easy, lower-paying jobs to spend more time with their kids to become another statistic in the gender pay gap. And, the whole time they were being painted as victims and me as an oppressor because I was male. Sooooo yea I’m 100% team weaponize… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/23 01:43 PM |
| 3 | Women are extremely selective and that's okay.Whose standards? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/23 12:38 PM |
| 2 | Women are extremely selective and that's okay.Actually he was looking for a relationship. His body count was in the 100s and he was past that phase. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/23 12:21 PM |
| 27 | Women are extremely selective and that's okay.In terms of physical desirability he was in the top 10% of men but for all-inclusive desirability he was much more average. Many women select based on the former and are surprised to discover a lack of the latter. Men do that too actually but I mean men’s initial selectivity tends to be much more lenient in general which affords more opportunity for discovery of non-shallow quality and chemistry. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/23 04:04 AM |
| 156 | Women are extremely selective and that's okay.It’s frustrating to see so many articles on men being trash, unhygienic, only wanting sex, being uneconomically viable, bad at housework yada yada and then see the Hinge account of your 6’3” alcoholic roommate who pretty much just eats, drinks, sleeps, lifts, works, and watches sports and it all starts to make sense. Dude got more likes in a weekend than I would get in months. Women can be as astronomically selective as they want but the frustrating part is when they try to blame it on all men b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/23 03:43 AM |
| 2 | Men are looking for casual sex and fwbs whether you want to hear it or not.I’ve definitely seen that sentiment from men as well. I think in the past it came from religion and misogyny. However, I think the stigma persists even in less religious and less misogynistic progressive men because of the asymmetry. Women and men face different standards of judgement for having casual sex because they face differing levels of access to casual sex. As long as that asymmetry exists, so too will the asymmetrical stigma. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/23 10:02 PM |
| 8 | Men are looking for casual sex and fwbs whether you want to hear it or not.Men tend to be more willing than women to have sex with a stranger and it’s not just a matter of safety issues, pregnancy concerns, stigma, disease avoidance, or self-control. However, that’s willingness, not preference. Just because I would be down to have sex with an extremely attractive random woman doesn’t mean that’s what I want long term. Growing up, I thought I wanted casual sex because it seemed so rare and hard to get and, thus, seemingly valuable. This phenomenon is called perceived sc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/23 07:06 PM |
| – | I have never been approached by a manDo you go to college? Based on answers so far I think being 19 could be a part of it. You haven’t had that much time yet to be approached. Also, if you look young and/or are with younger siblings guys might not want to accidentally hit on someone under 18. In college however I think guys feel more comfortable knowing you’re over 18. Also, guys might not want to approach you when you’re in a group, if you’re wearing AirPods, or if walk like you’re training for the power walking Olympics. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/23 01:19 AM |
| – | I have never been approached by a manWhat’s your age? What’s your definition of “being approached”? Like does a guy just saying hi count or does he need to specifically ask you out? Have you ever made eye contact with a guy? If so, what do you think your response would be to that? When you’re out, how often are you alone or with friends? If friends, briefly describe your friend group. If you usually go out alone a lot, do you wear AirPods? Do you walk in a chill manner or do you power walk like your life depends on it? (I do this l… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/23 01:01 AM |
| 0 | Women lose traits that men want in a partner as they get olderI've gotten naked and intimate with someone I have zero intimacy or knowledge of and it wasn't all that it was hyped up to be. However, I would never have gotten past that phase if it weren't for the women with realistic standards for men who were willing and able to give me a chance at casual sex. If it weren't for those women, I would not be in the amazing, loving relationship that I'm in today because I would still probably be stuck in a phase of obtaining the elusive, hard-to-get, and seemin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/23 12:49 AM |
| 1 | Women lose traits that men want in a partner as they get olderDisliking casual sex isn't the same thing as pathologizing men and male sexual desire. Having realistic standards isn't the same thing as letting some gross person "fuck your body". You clearly have no idea what it's like to be a man and absolutely no clue how to actually help and encourage men to mature in dating. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/23 11:18 PM |
| -1 | Women lose traits that men want in a partner as they get olderIt's not offensive nor weird to dislike casual sex. I feel like most guys that actually want casual sex don't yet know what they're asking for. Unlike many guys, I was fortunate enough to get a few opportunities where a random attractive woman off Tinder would come fuck my body. However, I discovered that actually having some chemistry was 100X better. I was able to mature past an obsession for getting casual hookups by having the opportunity to actually experience them a few times. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/23 09:08 PM |
| -1 | Women lose traits that men want in a partner as they get olderYour use of "fuck my body" shows you clearly pathologize sex lol. You view sex as an act where men use women's bodies which, hilariously, is founded in internalized misogyny and homophobia. No one is "lesser" just because they fulfill a role in which they are penetrated. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/23 08:52 PM |
| 5 | Guys with girlfriends, How did you land them?We met on Tinder. She was hot af, had realistic standards, liked nerdy guys, didn't pathologize men or sex, and didn't care a ton about height. I was incredibly lucky because she had just gotten out of a relationship and I snagged her out from amongst all the women on Tinder with unrealistic standards for men. We started out casual and the sex was amazing but I fell for her because there was so so much more to her. She wears a fun, confident, aloof, hard-to-get layer of armor to hide an incredib… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/23 05:16 PM |
| -3 | Women lose traits that men want in a partner as they get olderDid you ever go through a clubbing phase? I think a lot of my friends all clubbed 18-25 and eventually grew out of it. It started to get old and our priorities matured so we started wanting to get better sleep and not drink a ton and whatnot. It's easy to mature past that clubbing phase because you experienced it, got your fun out of it, and you moved on. Been there, done that. But what happens if you never got a chance to experience that? No matter how hard you try, deep down you may have this … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/23 04:34 PM |
| – | The relationship zones video explains why women are self-sabotagingTinder insights for a fat girl. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/23 02:34 PM |
| 15 | If sex is water, women have to survive on the ocean, men in the desert.I’ve seen that analogy a lot except with swamp instead of ocean. Women have plenty of “potable water” around, it’s just not absolutely pristine and perfect. A better analogy for women would be someone that grew up drinking luxury water brands slightly parched in a Walmart. Normal water is perfectly fine but their standards are abnormally high and they just don’t realize it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/23 05:51 PM |
| 1 | Men who are not obsessed with women are also demonizedBoth the original commenter and the author of that post suffer from the same inability to recognize that men can also be victims of demonization which most likely relates to agency bias. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/23 10:38 PM |
| 0 | Men who are not obsessed with women are also demonizedThere’s a tendency for women to be perceived as victims and men as perpetrators and it plays into gender politics. Hypo/hyper agency bias. So, I think it's important to point out when men are impacted by things too like being demonized for liking sports. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/23 02:36 PM |
| 9 | Men who are not obsessed with women are also demonizedIMO, men who are crazy about football are walking red flags. Anyone else glad football season is over after today? Included for irony: Can girls/women just be allowed to enjoy things without being made fun of by society? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/23 11:28 PM |
| 12 | Men who are not obsessed with women are also demonizedIMO, men who are crazy about football are walking red flags. What is with the male obsession with professional sports? Men with unhealthy obsessions with sports are terrible to be around Why are some guys obsessed with sports? Am I [26 F] overreacting to my BF's [28 M] football obsession? Men who like watching sports are so unattractive | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/23 11:25 PM |
| 8 | Men who are not obsessed with women are also demonizedIt comes from women’s frustration of the effects of feminism. I’m not sure what women were expecting but, after attempting to eliminate the need for men in society and showering men with hate, guilt, and shame for decades, a lot of men are unsurprisingly unmotivated. Men need to be empowered too. Empowered into new positive models of masculinity and having an actual place in society beyond being pathologized for their biology and expected to work to provide welfare for society as a substitute hu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/23 05:40 PM |
| 1 | The reasons for women to want marriage and children are often outweighed by the reasons not to, despite children being necessary for society as a wholeKids greatly increase your happiness later in life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/23 03:52 PM |
| 1 | The reasons for women to want marriage and children are often outweighed by the reasons not to, despite children being necessary for society as a wholeSociety is not a substitute husband. If you want women to receive more respect, care, dignity, and resources, figure out a way to do so without subjugating men into disposable laborers and taxpayers of a gynocentric welfare state. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/23 02:56 PM |
| 0 | The reasons for women to want marriage and children are often outweighed by the reasons not to, despite children being necessary for society as a wholehttps://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2013/03/14/chapter-6-time-in-work-and-leisure-patterns-by-gender-and-family-structure/ This Pew survey found that single dads spent HALF as much time on childcare as single moms. I think women may exaggerate their household labor, or include things like "decorating" that men may not have as much of an affinity for. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/23 03:55 AM |
| -3 | The reasons for women to want marriage and children are often outweighed by the reasons not to, despite children being necessary for society as a wholeMaybe if women weren't so busy choosing guys based on height they could find a dad that actually does dad things. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/23 03:45 AM |
| 5 | The reasons for women to want marriage and children are often outweighed by the reasons not to, despite children being necessary for society as a wholeYou should try being a dad for a week and see how many people assume you're incompetent with kids or a criminal. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/23 03:44 AM |
| 2 | The reasons for women to want marriage and children are often outweighed by the reasons not to, despite children being necessary for society as a wholeWell no shit, that's because women tend to value men for money. https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0003122416655340 For marriages formed after 1975, husbands’ lack of full-time employment is associated with higher risk of divorce, but neither wives’ full-time employment nor wives’ share of household labor is associated with divorce risk. Expectations of wives’ homemaking may have eroded, but the husband breadwinner norm persists. Husbands with Much Higher Incomes Than Their Wives Have a Lo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/23 03:34 AM |
| 1 | The reasons for women to want marriage and children are often outweighed by the reasons not to, despite children being necessary for society as a wholeMy girlfriend works with the elderly and is, consequently, a huge proponent of having kids. All the crap you put up with pays off later in life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/23 03:17 AM |
| 0 | The reasons for women to want marriage and children are often outweighed by the reasons not to, despite children being necessary for society as a wholeCondoms were invented in like 3000 B.C. but yea I’m sure that plays a role. That doesn’t disprove that it’s cultural though. There are plenty of cross-cultural differences in birth rates. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/23 03:07 AM |
| 6 | The reasons for women to want marriage and children are often outweighed by the reasons not to, despite children being necessary for society as a wholeSo why does the birth rate go down the more developed a country becomes? As women experience a net increase in quality of life, healthcare, antibiotics, food availability, etc., there is a corresponding net decrease in childbirths. Women receive more respect, care, dignity, and resources today than at any point in human history. The issue is cultural. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/23 09:30 PM |
| 2 | Who do you think cares more about gender roles when it comes to romantic connection: men or women?There's a little bit of a double standard when it comes to gender roles nowadays. A man wanting a submissive, feminine woman is likely to be perceived as misogynistic, while a woman wanting a dominant, masculine man is more likely to be empowered as a preference. Thus, I think women tend to care more about gender roles. For example, when it comes to men's "protector-provider" role, the protector part can still be seen clear as day through height preference. The provider part is less pronounced b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/23 02:44 AM |
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