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Do you believe Alan Rickman would agree with you?
/r/MensRights15/01/16 03:41 AM
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How would you talk about the sexual objectification of women in the media, and the negative social consequences of that, without teaching anyone that they are victims? Also, why are you speaking as if victims are a fictional beast? If your house was robbed, would you admit that you were the victim of a robbery? If your daughter was mugged, would you blame her if she considered herself to be a victim of a mugging? Why is how feminism is indoctrinating young girls into believing they're victims a …
/r/MensRights03/10/15 11:20 AM
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This is happening in my local highschool? According to you, they were talking about the media. Are you sure you have a good idea of what exactly you're objecting to? What exactly was happening at this GirlsHelpingGirls meeting that is so offensive? And why is men helping men a positive idea, and girls helping girls a negative one?
/r/MensRights02/10/15 03:16 AM
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You're saying that you don't claim feminism is oppressive out of one side of your mouth, while comparing them to Nazis out of the other. Men don't need help because they are men, MRA is a reaction to radical feminism Do you think it's possible that GirlsHelpingGirls is a reaction to systemic misogynist prejudice and discrimination?
/r/MensRights01/10/15 02:14 PM
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Here I'll give you a hand. I think you very clearly implied that the idea that women need help is oppressive... that this GirlsHelpingGirls club is victimizing young impressionable girls... that it is indoctrinating and insulting them. Do you realize the irony of posting this in a forum that is literally based on the idea of men helping men? Why don't you find the entire MRA movement... the idea that men need help because they are men... that men are oppressed and victimized by feminism... to be…
/r/MensRights01/10/15 01:28 PM
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I think you've spent plenty of time arguing, so no I don't think you're being honest about the reasons why you've spent zero time trying to understand my point, and so much time trolling and pulling bullshit out of your ass. But you might be right. You might be reading my original comment and trying to understand it right now. You might not have just been using procrastination as an excuses to ignore facts which contradict your ideological beliefs. If you are, I'm sure you'll address my original…
/r/MensRights01/10/15 01:15 PM
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I don't give a rats ass about political correctness. Yes you do. You found the word "liberation" to be politically incorrect, and you tried to police my language. trying to paint a picture somehow of females being victims. Or just... you know... talking about sexist discrimination and prejudice against women, and you blew it out of proportion and insanely made yourself out to be the victim of the oppression of misandry and windmill-dragons. I am not trying to raise my daughter to be a profession…
/r/MensRights01/10/15 12:58 PM
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Is there a more politically correct word you'd rather I use? Any other language I used that you'd like to police? I used the word liberation because my experience is as a gay man, and the word "liberation" is absolutely the correct accurate word for what the civil rights and social gains of the last 10 years has meant for my life and the lives of LGBT people. (Civil rights and social gains that would have been impossible without the help of straight allies) Being free from prejudice and discrimi…
/r/MensRights01/10/15 11:59 AM
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Oh I think you very clearly implied that the idea that women need help is oppressive... that this GirlsHelpingGirls club is victimizing young impressionable girls... that it is indoctrinating and insulting them. Do you realize the irony of posting this in a forum that is literally based on the idea of men helping men? Why don't you find the entire MRA movement... the idea that men need help because they are men... that men are oppressed and victimized by feminism... to be as insulting to yoursel…
/r/MensRights01/10/15 04:51 AM
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You're right! You and your daughter are victims of this teacher, who is an oppressor!
/r/MensRights01/10/15 04:06 AM
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Logically, if there is an inequality of result, there are two possible reasons: 1) the group with the lower result is a target of systemic discrimination or 2) the group with the lower result is inherently inferior
/r/MensRights22/04/15 03:52 PM
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What is the proper legal and moral approach to handling last minute resistance? If consent is withdrawn, then you do not have consent. Consent needs to be continuous, informed, un-coerced, and enthusiastic. If you proceed to force yourself on her, it is rape. They want the man to chase them and desire them so much that the man ignores their "no". This needs to be explicitly negotiated beforehand, or else it is not consensual. Even if a woman (albeit a totally hypothetical woman you have describe…
/r/MensRights02/03/15 05:48 AM
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Your feelings of annoyance don't justify the hostility with which you've behaved.
/r/MensRights01/01/15 09:23 PM
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Your hostility is unnecessary.
/r/MensRights01/01/15 08:38 PM
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Truth be told, I've already looked through your comment history. I know regardless of what's said you will continue to fill your hole with pigeons. That's the difference between you and I, if you show me feminism going out of it's way to help men directly(Not as a byproduct, not as a joint benefit, directly and solely as it's done with women countless times) I will change my viewpoints on it being a movement that only targets one gender. I wish we could have continued this conversation without y…
/r/MensRights01/01/15 02:45 PM
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Because you've said nothing rooted in fact. Are you claiming that I am lying about my experience? What key piece? I'm speaking of what the movement has done. Going by actions, and not speeches. When I say that "MRA has in the past incorporated misogyny. MRA currently incorporates misogyny." I am also speaking of what the movement has done... going by actions, and not speeches. The key piece of reasoning is that the nature of an ideology cannot be judged by the actions of a few who claim to be it…
/r/MensRights31/12/14 10:47 PM
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I was referring to "listening to feminists more." You've ignored me. Yes, it's true; but it's not true of all members. But you ignored this key piece of reasoning when talking about feminism.
/r/MensRights31/12/14 08:31 PM
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Both only seek to help one group. That is not true. Considering oneself a "part" of a "movement" does not negate the need for education. The big difference is that feminism has, in the past, actually silenced issues of the other gender in order to help their own. MRA has in the past incorporated misogyny. MRA currently incorporates misogyny. EDIT: wait a minute... I just realized. "Femin" does not refer to a gender. It is about the hegemony of masculinity as it relates to femininity. Men can be …
/r/MensRights31/12/14 06:43 PM
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I think you should read more about feminism, and listen to feminists more. I think your view of feminism is the sort of view that results when you only listen to feminists' critics. I think it's clear that the MRA movement is only capable of helping one gender. I think that's the main difference between it and feminism, which seeks to overcome systemic imbalances and injustice.
/r/MensRights31/12/14 06:11 PM
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"Rebooting" feminism solves nothing if the name remains gendered. Similarly, you must believe that the MRA movement solves nothing if the name remains gendered. They always end up only helping women This is patently false. As a gay man, I have been helped enormously by feminism and feminists.
/r/MensRights31/12/14 05:47 PM
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Posted without irony in a subreddit which is not called /r/mensandwomensrights You must also believe that MRA solves nothing because it is also focused on one gender, right?
/r/MensRights31/12/14 05:12 PM
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For example, if most of their comments are on SRS, it's probably a concern troll. Why's that?
/r/MensRights10/12/14 04:39 PM
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Actually, the research that I've seen has indicated that the most well-adjusted children are those raised by two female lesbian partners.
/r/MensRights02/10/14 05:01 AM
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I really don't understand. She's a hypocrite for talking about men's issues, and then talking about women's issues without talking about men's issues? So, she's a hypocrite for both talking about men's issues and not talking about men's issues? That doesn't make sense. You haven't shown any sort of hypocrisy. That's putting aside that she did not mention men's issues. She mentioned obstacles men face to supporting women's issues. Given that there is clearly no hypocrisy demonstrated, and your ot…
/r/MensRights27/09/14 01:57 AM
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You're saying that if she mentions these things, then advocates for women's rights, she's a hypocrite? It seems like you've backed her into a corner where you find it acceptable for her to either be dishonest about these things, or be silent about the issues which matter to her. So she's a hypocrite for mentioning that these "men's issues" are a problem? She's not allowed to mention this thing that silences men from speaking about women's issues to try to overcome it, or else she's a hypocrite? …
/r/MensRights27/09/14 12:16 AM
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She never said anything about men's issues, and as such there is no hypocrisy other than that of MRAs criticizing her for not speaking out for men's issues.
/r/MensRights26/09/14 05:53 PM
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Because women do not have a monopoly on being disadvantaged. They are not universally disadvantaged more than men in every way. That's true... women certainly do not have a monopoly on being disadvantaged. You are also right that they are not universally disadvantaged in every way. However, western culture is ubiquitously dominated by the male perspective, and positions of power are held by a disproportionate number of men even when deciding on how to handle issues which affect men. In this case…
/r/MensRights26/09/14 06:11 AM
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There is hypocrisy in thinking gender equality means everyone focusing on just women and girls. How? If there is inequality, then bringing the low side up would result in equality. Please correct my logic. I never accused Watson of censoring people, but she isn't the arbiter for feminism either. Then how does it have anything to do with her? I was under the impression you were bringing it up because you were arguing it is related to the issue at hand. You are ignoring how the speech says men and…
/r/MensRights26/09/14 02:38 AM
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Or how the speech itself is betrayed by what HeForShe actually does, i.e. the very thing discussed in the OP. As I pointed out (and you ignored), it seems pretty clear that it's about getting men to stand up for the rights of women and girls as well. There's no hypocrisy. Which would be fine if feminists didn't try silence/censor those other people. Please show where Emma Watson has done this. I assume you aren't engaging in the discriminatory practice of accusing one person of hypocrisy for con…
/r/MensRights25/09/14 05:41 PM
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The arguments about whether Emma Watson is a hypocrite for speaking out about women's issues? I tried, but you took us off on a non-sequitur distraction about your pet ideological issues. As far as the issue at hand, Ian McKellen said it best. He was asked to respond to criticism that he seems to speak out about issues affecting LGBT people disproportionately compared to all the other issues which also exist, and he said that surely there are other people who focus on other issues. What this is,…
/r/MensRights25/09/14 01:41 PM
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Oh wow I never thought of it like that. You're right. Emma Watson is evil for speaking out against discrimination against women. Where do I sign up to be an MRA?
/r/MensRights25/09/14 12:57 PM
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I don't think that view of things has much resemblance to reality.
/r/MensRights25/09/14 12:30 PM
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I don't think playing the race card, and the class card helps your case at all. While there is intersectionality, they are completely separate issues. I think there are a lot of MRAs who, like you, are simply denialists of the systemic discrimination against women.
/r/MensRights25/09/14 01:52 AM
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I'm saying mras focus on male issues while criticizing feminists for focusing on female issues.
/r/MensRights25/09/14 01:39 AM
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I was under the impression that "feminism is for everyone" means that everyone, men and women, should be engaged with ending oppression of women and girls. Are you saying that MRAs are unconcerned with the human rights of women? I just don't see what's so shocking, controversial, or hypocritical about the idea that everyone should be opposed to all oppression and discrimination faced by women and girls. I don't understand why anyone would be offended by that idea, except for people who believe t…
/r/MensRights24/09/14 06:03 PM
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Posted, without irony, on a subreddit that is not called "/r/mensandwomensrights"
/r/MensRights24/09/14 05:09 AM
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Because entering academia in the sciences requires engaging in asinine arguments about every single topic with every idiot on the internet and providing sources for every conceivable piece of knowledge. Or maybe, just because you've decided you want me to do something, is not a compelling reason for me to do it. You want me to try to convince you of something. I have no interest in trying to convince you of it. Why is it so hard for you to come to terms with that? Is it that you feel like this i…
/r/MensRights10/09/14 03:09 AM
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So...you cant cite sources? This is not a logical conclusion. It does not follow from someone not doing something, that they can't do something. A frog not jumping is not evidence that frogs can not jump. Everyone should defend themselves against all presented ideas. Cool belief. However, the idea that you should expect everyone else to humour you doing this isn't healthy. Realistically, what's going to happen is that people won't play along with the game of "if I can talk like there's a flaw in…
/r/MensRights10/09/14 02:58 AM
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I expect it. I don't think you honestly go through life requesting sources and evidence for every single opinion or claim you're exposed to. I don't honestly think you take an umbrella with you when the weatherman says it will be sunny, simply because he didn't provide you with sources. I'm pretty sure you're not surprised when you crack open an egg and find it's filled with egg stuff even though the claim that the white globes were eggs was unsubstantiated and no evidence or sources of that cla…
/r/MensRights10/09/14 01:35 AM
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I'm sorry that I'm not giving you something you apparently feel you are owed.
/r/MensRights10/09/14 01:18 AM
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I think it's a pattern of thinking you've displayed in multiple ways... jumping to conclusions and loose free-associations. I believe the opinions you've expressed seem to be based on faulty reasoning. You say you object to the ideology of feminism, but none of your reasons bear relation to the actual ideology. I can agree to disagree about that, and hope you can too. Good day.
/r/MensRights09/09/14 04:06 PM
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Feminism...literally Hitler. ...and you lost me. Good day.
/r/MensRights09/09/14 05:16 AM
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If Hitler had a degree in physics, would you become anti-physics because of his personal views? He painted paintings. Do you consider paintings to be inherently genocidal now? I think that your anti-feminist view is not based on reason or evidence. It is a result of a bias you formed due to a specific set of idiots. Also, many of the examples you gave, you clearly misunderstand. If you want to be anti-feminism, then imho you should do so based on rational evidence based objections to the nature …
/r/MensRights08/09/14 04:55 PM
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Your description of social order bears no resemblance to reality. I imagine South Park animating what you're describing while a giant disclaimer flashes on the bottom "This is what MRAs actually believe", but I refuse to believe that any more than a tiny minority of extremists share your view.
/r/MensRights07/09/14 06:13 PM
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Perhaps the views of the children who called themselves "feminists" in your school bear little relation to the actual application of feminism in the real world. That must have sucked dealing with those idiots. I hope they don't bias your view of things.
/r/MensRights07/09/14 02:54 AM
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I wouldn't call this "hegemonic masculinity" so much as female privilege aka the pussy pass I don't understand why you think the two are mutually exclusive. This may not be the right subreddit for you. I don't believe in political correctness. I believe in evidence and reason. I believe that men should have the same rights as everyone else, and this is the Men's Rights subreddit (which I believe in. Men's rights should not be infringed upon.) This means I don't belong here?
/r/MensRights07/09/14 02:52 AM
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(for society anyway, not my personal opinion) That view seems totally insane. That is obviously not the way society is. Do you really think that your statement is an accurate general overview to the way that society deals with gender? Feminity(sic) is the mark of the superior, thus only those born with a vagina can show it. Others are Not Worthy. I think that there are some radical feminists who actually believe that, but are in the tiny minority and have no resemblance to actual feminism. Simil…
/r/MensRights07/09/14 02:49 AM
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It's because masculinity is treated as superior to femininity. The school is imposing masculine clothing on this student. It's the result of hegemonic masculinity: the same social norms which impose heterosexuality and cisgenderism. This is one of those examples which show that misogyny doesn't only harm women, and feminism doesn't only seek to protect the rights of women.
/r/MensRights05/09/14 06:59 AM
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