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You know man. There’s a lot of “what-ifs” when you don’t take action. There’s really no reason not to at least talk to people that you find interesting, especially if you are single man. If you’re likely to never see her again, that’s even more of a reason to practice talking. The worst the happens is that you screw up and learn from the experience. The best case scenario is that you find you guys have something in common and decide to meet up. You have to learn to default to action and it takes…
/r/seduction06/07/18 02:27 AM
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When people having something and get used to it, it generally becomes boring. When something is off limits and you’re not supposed to touch it, it immediately becomes an object of fascination. This is how children think. You should push yourself beyond this and realize that there are reasons some things are the way the are. I would say that you shouldn’t be “not” interfering with other people’s relationships for their sake, but for your sake. It’s better not to mark your conscience with those th…
/r/seduction06/07/18 02:23 AM
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It’s always good to go out alone, even if you have the opportunity to do so with other people. It keeps your game sharp. Remember that when you’re going out by yourself that you are just building a skill. Many people can’t do like has already been said here.
/r/seduction01/07/18 10:14 PM
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I think it would be good to have the conversation as soon as possible. Due to the age differential, it would be best not to mislead her with her intentions. And when I went into the conversation / moving forward, make sure you stick by what you decide on.
/r/seduction01/07/18 10:12 PM
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I agree with this commenter. You never really know what’s going in someone’s life. Just think of all of the times that you’ve been going through some crazy shit, but you’ve still gone outside and socialized. Her favorite TV show may have been canceled; she may have just broken up; someone in her family may have just passed away. The list is endless and you never know. Even when you think you know someone really well, you never know 100%. It’s best to put yourself out there and then if it works, …
/r/seduction30/06/18 11:05 PM
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Just keep approaching and talking to people regardless. I don’t even look at the success of any individual interaction that I have anymore. It doesn’t bother me if they go positive / negative. I just know that the experience will help me when there’s someone I actually want to make it count with. ABA - Always Be Approaching.
/r/seduction29/06/18 02:33 AM
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Two things here that you have to realize: Everyone has been through this. If you’re new to this, it’s likely that you’re going to have to keep going through this a few times for it to sync in. If she’s acting cold / distant, this is the message she’s sending you. She’s telling you through her actions that you need to back off. She’s doing you a favor, what she’s saying is that “you deserve someone who will put in more effort and support you more than I will.” It’s better that she does this than …
/r/seduction29/06/18 02:29 AM
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This is a classic textbook situation - she’ll occasionally do stuff if you reach out, she flakes sometimes, she’s not putting in effort, etc etc etc. You’re wondering if you should put the last nail in the coffin and deliver her closure with a bow on it. To which I say, just let it go. Her actions have clearly conveyed that she is not interested. You do not need to give her the satisfaction of some “talk.” If you do that, then it’s definitely over. From being in and talking to friends, the only …
/r/seduction29/06/18 02:23 AM
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Rejection is always better than regret!
/r/seduction29/06/18 02:17 AM
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I see and recognize the other comments - “remove her from your life completely.” I’ve done this and it’s not always the most effective way of handling a situation. It can be immature and it’s best not to hide feelings you have under a rug. Should you stop reaching out and texting all the time - yes. Should you never talk to her again - no, it sounds like you enjoyed her company, but circumstances are driving you apart. I would say in a situation like this, taking in to mind what I’ve already sai…
/r/seduction29/06/18 02:16 AM
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Life’s tough man. Judge people by their actions and not what they say. Think rationally and don’t let feelings that do not make sense overpower you. A good opener is, “Hello, how are you doing?” In all honesty, openers don’t really matter as long as you start talking. Girls don’t look back when they’re with you and then second guess things over how good an opener you had. It’s the overall impression you convey. Are you talking confidently or not? Are you able to continue a conversation? Not that…
/r/seduction29/06/18 02:03 AM
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Yeah, but here that’s not the case. If someone approached me five seconds after another girl (as it seems happened in case #2), I would actually assume that they were not interested in me. It would seem more likely that they were behaving in a way that was needy and not thinking through their actions. One’s true intention always shines through. I’d be curious to hear what others think about this situation.
/r/seduction28/06/18 02:21 AM
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Technically if you can keep yourself motivated, going out alone should be really good. You don’t have anyone holding you back / that you’re tethered to. What is a wing going to do that you couldn’t motivate yourself to do? They’ll try to get you to talk to people, but if you’re in the zone, you should be able to do that anyway. Try to see this as an opportunity and not an obstacles. Since you’re going solo, you can go whenever you want and do not have to abide by anyone else’s schedule.
/r/seduction27/06/18 11:11 PM
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Yeah, this has been happening to me recently. Like I realize that I should have asked for a number, etc. The thing is, you have to keep having these experiences to realize what you’re doing wrong. Next time, you’ll know what you have to do. And then when that time comes, if you’re working hard, you’ll probably make another mistake. And then you’ll learn from that mistake. And all of these failures will come together to make a master. Keep at it and keep what you wrote in mind next time.
/r/seduction27/06/18 11:05 PM
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How do you convey the sense that you are being genuinely interested when you are approaching multiple girls in the same vicinity / right next to each other? If I was a girl and you told the girl next to me that you thought she was cute before you did the same thing to me, I’d question your intentions. How do you show that you’re not just using a shotgun approach?
/r/seduction27/06/18 11:03 PM
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If it was meant to be, you would have known and it would have happened. You’ll have to make your own judgment whether it’s worth putting more effort in. Probably better to take some time away before you do. See my other comment.
/r/seduction27/06/18 02:02 AM
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100% lay off in a situation like this. If you keep at it, you’re going to be deferring to her, which you do not want to do. You said you slept at her place. She knows what your intention was. This should be something that happens spontaneously and does not require a lot of negotiation. If you keep “trying,” what is the message that you’re sending? That you need her and you can’t get options elsewhere. Do yourself a favor, do some self improvement, learn about yourself, and she’ll be back. And if…
/r/seduction26/06/18 10:27 PM
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I would say that if you’re escalating properly and making your intentions clear during a date, you would find pretty similar results. It’s generally not in a girl’s best interest to make you wait longer than necessary for what you want. The only reason this happens is if you behave in a way that indicates that you don’t have options / you didn’t generate the necessary level of attraction. You should also be doing action types of dates.
/r/seduction26/06/18 10:20 PM
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Glad to hear it!
/r/seduction26/06/18 01:43 AM
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Focus on meeting girls in real life and doing things you like. You will have more success if you develop confidence doing things in real life than on a competitive dating site.
/r/seduction25/06/18 11:54 PM
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A lot of people think just being in a fraternity will lead to getting girls. This is not necessarily true. I’ve known guys not in fraternities who have done far better. Being in one does not mean that you don’t have to work on developing yourself like everyone else. However, there may be more opportunities if you choose to take advantage of them like others here have said.
/r/seduction25/06/18 11:52 PM
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If you have to ask, you already know. Don’t shake your life around the timeline of other people. If just ask if she’d be down to do something after exams now and then you can both look forward to it in the future. Otherwise, it would be unusual for you to revolve every decision of when to ask her to do something around her schedule.
/r/seduction25/06/18 02:12 AM
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Great job on the date, it sounds like you really internalized that “perfection is boring” and death with any situations / obstacles as they came. Just a thought, but it sounds like from your description that you were doing a lot of the leading and initiating throughout everything and maybe didn’t give her the opportunity to pursue you. I think this might be true because you keep describing yourself as having issues with confidence in yourself. At the end of this, what you’re thought really shoul…
/r/seduction25/06/18 01:24 AM
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I wouldn’t put any analysis into text messages. It’s impossible to properly gauge what someone’s reaction is. Even if you think that your interpretation is accurate, you may be completely off. If she showed any hint of being interested, see if you can see her in person and do something. Then you can start to actually gauge whether you have turned her off and have to recover. It’s NOT possible to make these assessments accurately over text. If seeing her in person does not seem to be an option fo…
/r/seduction25/06/18 01:13 AM
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In the Greek myth about Orpheus, he is instructed not to look back when retrieving his wife, Eurydice from the underworld. On his way back up with her, he did not have enough faith and chose to look back, losing her forever. Do NOT make the same mistake as Orpheus. See this as an opportunity to improve yourself. Think that one day you’ll look back and possibly see this as a gift. Forge ahead and improve yourself. Try to gain new experiences and see other people when you’re ready. If you continue…
/r/seduction25/06/18 01:10 AM
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I always find these types of responses interesting. Her saying, “as long as you don’t hit on me, we can continue this convo,” indicates that she was thinking of you hitting on her. It would be easier for me to interpret this if I could see it happening. However, you probably could have just said, “ok,” and then continued to go about your conversation in a normal way and playfully teased her if you were comfortable. People don’t always say what they mean and things are not always as they seem. Bo…
/r/seduction25/06/18 01:04 AM
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First, what you’re describing falls under the general category of a girl saying, “I’m busy.” Everyone is busy. You also have exams and you are working on passing your classes. She is not doing anything that you are not doing. When people are that interested, they make the time. If she was that interested, it would not be in her best interest to make you wait until she “clears some course.” I would lay off and if she eventually comes around, consider it because then you will approaching from the …
/r/seduction24/06/18 10:14 PM
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I would go for sooner rather than later. I wouldn’t think of what you’re doing as “inconveniencing” her from her studies. It sounds like from your description that she’s been receptive to your presence and open to doing things together. I would strike while the iron’s hot. You just got to believe in yourself and have a good time here.
/r/seduction24/06/18 02:20 AM
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I appreciate your reply. I just don't understand why it seems so hard still at first. I think it's because in the back of my mind, I still feel like by giving anyone a complement, there's the intrinsic intention as wanting something in return. However, that should not be true and I think that I still have to work on getting through my head that just because something is given does not mean that something has to be received. Even girls who I've been seeing, I have trouble giving complements to as…
/r/seduction23/06/18 06:24 PM
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How does a baby know when to eat? It trusts its gut. The baby instinctively knows how to take food and process it. Similarly, you should be trusting your gut. If your instincts tell you the time is right, you go for it. If you deny this instinct, she will lost interest. So I would say you should not delay these things and if you feel its time go for it, so she doesn't lose interest. If she came to your place, that's definitely a good sign. Also, don't think about it too much, like you seem to be…
/r/seduction23/06/18 05:23 PM
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Something I read once is that it’s always best to default into action. If you can become of the mindset that leaving seems like a worse option than just going in, then you’ll always be able to do it. I’m trying to work on this. It seems like the best way to do so, like anything else is to work on making it a habit and the rest will follow.
/r/seduction23/06/18 03:42 AM
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Your post made me think back to a time I was really happy. I remember seeing a girl I knew limping because she hurt her leg and with no expectations whatsoever, I offered to carry her to where she was going. I remember while I was carrying her that she said that it seems like I am always smiling. I think that you’re right about the long-term solution. It is definitely important to find a way to make your life something that you are all-around happy with. As you do this, you really can’t help do …
/r/seduction23/06/18 03:39 AM
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A lot of people talk about this around here, but a good way to start going into these interactions when you’re beginning is with NO expectations whatsoever. Just focus on the basics. This may start by just asking for the time or other simple conversations. As you start to do these things, you’ll realize that it’s not really worth getting nervous / uptight about trying to be social in this way. As you continue to push through these experiences, there will be some good things to be found and these…
/r/seduction23/06/18 03:35 AM
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The worst thing that you can do is not believe in yourself. If you don’t believe that you should not get rejected than how could you possibly that you will have an enduring relationship. Anyway, how does one make good things happen? One has to start doing these things (i.e. approaching here). Of course there’s going to be some rejections / things that you wish you could take back. However, there will also be many good experiences and these situations will make you a more worldly person. Maybe ev…
/r/seduction23/06/18 03:31 AM
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Interesting post and concept. I guess my question is how do you stay motivated if you’re always going out by yourself. I’ve been doing it a lot lately and similar, it sometimes feels silly. It seems like everyone else has a group of people and approaching these groups seems ridiculous even when I’m alone. How do you keep pushing through this? How does just approaching more and more people resolve this issue for you? What are the interactions doing that are making you think more positively?
/r/seduction23/06/18 01:49 AM
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Just start by talking to random people, asking what time it is. When you become comfortable doing simple things like this (holding short conversations), you can work up from there. Good luck!
/r/seduction22/06/18 02:25 AM
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I find that there are two types of conversations: 1. You’re trying to construct each word you’re trying to say - this takes a lot of effort. 2. You have a flow. It’s like you’re talking with family and friends - this is easy and takes almost no effort. There has been work done that measures how you’re body responds when you start conversations / someone starts one with you. Initially, you almost have always think of the words that you are saying. It is somewhat constructed. However, if your’e co…
/r/seduction22/06/18 02:24 AM
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Nice post. I was trying to give some random people complements today. Some things that I’ve been having trouble with are just giving these types of complements to random people. When I would go up to do it to a girl, it was like some wall came up that almost prevented me from talking. How can you even get from this point to doing more? And I feel awkward just saying things like that’s a nice dress, etc. to random people. How do you get into the mindset that you’re able to do this comfortably and…
/r/seduction22/06/18 02:19 AM
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If you get the sense that she is showing less interest than she could be, I’d take that into consideration. Ideally, by this point of just texting each other, she’d be that into you that you don’t have to question her interest. It would be best for her not to show her interest in you if it was there. She would risk losing you / messing it up. Maybe you haven’t reached this point yet where you’d gauge that, but I’d think about it as you keep on progressing. Otherwise, like the other commenter sai…
/r/seduction20/06/18 11:16 PM
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I’ve been there. I would say to use this as a time to work on yourself mainly when you’re not out. When the opportunities do present themselves, however rare, make sure you jump on them. I do find that just focusing on self improvement in this type of situation to yield the best results though. If you have friends / people that you see around consistently and you keep working at yourself, they will take notice. This might not be what you want to hear, but if you take all the self improvement tha…
/r/seduction20/06/18 11:12 PM
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I want to ask, if you just ghost people like this, I’ve done it, they sometimes don’t end up coming back. If all that happens is that the girl never comes back then what’s the point in using this approach. Couldn’t the girl also be testing to see if you will put in the effort by not contacting you. If she doesn’t see this, then how can you expect her to behave any differently? This is a concept that I’ve been struggling with. Thanks
/r/seduction20/06/18 02:07 AM
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I see what you are saying, but isn’t it necessary at some point to put in some amount of effort. I get into this mindset where I’m trying not to seem needy and not put in effort, but what ends up happening is that the girl loses interest. How do you balance trying to let the girl pursue you and the amount of effort you put in?
/r/seduction20/06/18 02:05 AM
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For your question, the best you could do is go with something situational that she can relate to. If it’s hot out, or if there’s something unusual happening, etc, you can talk about these. At a certain point, you should be able to naturally express yourself rather than having to consider each word. At this point, your actions should start to reflect your intentions. You will have to be able to find something to keep talking about to build rapport.
/r/seduction18/06/18 11:12 PM
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In this type of environment, the most important thing is that your conversation is aligned with the vibe of the environment. If you’re somewhere that the music is loud, your trying to ask Interview-like questions is not going to be appreciated. In this scenario, body language is much more important. What you’re saying doesn’t matter so much as how you’re saying it.
/r/seduction18/06/18 11:09 PM
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I have read your reply and something that I struggle with is aligning all of my intentions. First, don’t you think that the OP just having strong feelings about this girl will convey itself through his actions? Second, don’t you think that not discussing his feelings could actually scare her off since he will have to work to cover this up? How would you suggest striking the right balance between not coming off as needy vs. making sure your actions are aligned with your true intentions?
/r/seduction18/06/18 02:28 AM
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