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ASSHOLES! Here I thought reality was more fucked up than it already is and that I was powerless, but it turns out.. just powerless to gullibility. You've set yourself up for a major boy-who-cried-wolf scenario and seriously fucked over your credibility. You got people angry and mobilized them, so much effort was just wasted...
/r/PussyPassDenied07/02/17 06:29 PM
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I think OP is noticing SJW doing this. Women don't inherently go out of their way to belong to a group they don't fit into, but SJWs do. SJWs will get offended on your behalf and start appropriating culture/spaces, and then they make changes. This guy from Netherlands explains it pretty well (The Tumblr Model): http://myragewillendworlds.tumblr.com/post/108013641659/just-something-thats-been-on-my-mind-tumblr-has
/r/MGTOW27/05/16 05:01 PM
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I spoke to 2 feminists yesterday about it, IN PERSON, and only had to correct 1 of them. I've probably accomplished more in that situation than you ever will when it comes to gender wage gap misconceptions. I'm tired of your bullshit. I hope you get cancer and don't have offspring, if you do, I hope they get cancer too.
/r/MensRights19/07/15 09:55 PM
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I will confront and correct anyone regardless of who they are!!! You can easily do the same thing: How hard is it to say "actually women don't make 77% of what men make for the same job, it's actually the the total female population making 77% of what men are making, but when you compare the same jobs, you'll find men making the same amount as women do." Easy right? I agree with most of the things you're saying, but let correct you on some points: not all your calculations are correct, see below…
/r/MensRights17/07/15 09:06 PM
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You called me disingenuous for using facts! Then I call you disingenuous for using some of the facts while you originally ignored other facts! THEN YOU BECAME A PYSCHO! All my information was based on us census and dept of labor. You owe me an apology for cursing me out and saying I was lying when everything I said came from reality, as in the real data coming from us census & dept of labor.
/r/MensRights17/07/15 08:43 PM
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Control your anger. So in this case, I'm a feminist and I'm saying it. Do you require anything else?
/r/MensRights17/07/15 12:02 AM
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Well those feminists just got it wrong at first, way to hold a grudge. Besides, you're trying way harder to debunk something that the Dept of labor has already explained, the first two pages already gets into hours worked by men and women: http://www.bls.gov/cps/cpswom2010.pdf . Also you're cherry picking elements of the data and blatantly ignoring others; that's disingenuous!
/r/MensRights16/07/15 07:13 AM
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Typical MRA assumptions. I've interacted with MRAs in the last 3 days and I find MRAs to be highly emotional (anger, all-caps, cursing) and thinking I'm a woman. In fact i'm a man with a business degree who trades stocks part time who looked up the US Census earnings gap and Dept of Labor earnings gap and was surprised that all these idiots online have their facts wrong. If anything i'm becoming anti-human (misanthropic), why deal with people if they won't take the facts as they are or even list…
/r/MensRights15/07/15 09:49 PM
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the dept of labor does call it an earnings gap
/r/MensRights15/07/15 08:32 PM
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Sorry to break it to you, but wages and earnings mean the same thing. Feel free to look at Dept of labor's exact definition: http://www.bls.gov/bls/glossary.htm Also I'm just going to be copying and pasting what I said earlier, so: https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/3dbkcs/debunking_the_wage_gap_in_30_seconds/ct4is99
/r/MensRights15/07/15 08:07 PM
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I'm not hiding anything, and I'm saying this as guy who who has a degree in business and economics. Also wage and income are interchangeable words. Even if you specify that wages are hourly and income is yearly, you get the same results. You can't get paid 100% equal wages and end up with 77% income, but i'm not saying women are getting paid 77% less for the same job/work... People here are confusing the myth that women get paid 77% as men for the same job, which is a myth, THAT'S A MYTH EVERYON…
/r/MensRights15/07/15 07:56 PM
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You mean this? http://www.bls.gov/cps/cpswom2010.pdf Dept of labor says: 1) women working less 2) women working mostly part time 3) women working in lower paid jobs like administrative It's funny how people say it's a myth when the dept of labor is saying the same thing everyone here is saying, but at the same time showing the consequences of those things, a gap. The US Census showed similar results.
/r/MensRights15/07/15 06:10 PM
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You say the gap is a lie, but you also say women are getting paid less because they work less. Hmmm, so if one group works less, they get paid less, which means a gap will show when you compare the two groups. You just proved there's a gap. And no I'm not advocating that solution. Why do MRAs jump to conclusions? I am saying though, accept the facts. Women, not all, will suppress the facts too when they hear me say male on male violence makes up 70% of all violence. Which is true. But some women…
/r/MensRights15/07/15 05:53 PM
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No. But I agree that you get what you work for. However I find it unintelligent and illogical that so many people would suppress the facts. Any solution starts with accepting there's a problem, not hiding the truth. As a man I started believing this was a myth, until I looked at the actual statistics by the US Census and was like this is fucked up. Also as a man I was scared at the implications, will someone make me work less, pay me less, not sure what, but then I realized that's BS.
/r/MensRights15/07/15 05:40 PM
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So when you take women as a population, there's a gap. I think there's a lot of misinterpretation here; i'm not saying there's discrimination, but data shows there's a gap. EDIT, hmmm, did you understand the graph?
/r/MensRights15/07/15 05:29 PM
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Why do you want to debunk it, why not accept that there's a gap? The fact that you have to normalize hours to prove there's no gap doesn't make the gap disappear, it doesn't magically make women earn more money or work more hours. Also this is reality: http://i.imgur.com/9hNEZHd.png
/r/MensRights15/07/15 06:22 AM
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You probably should avoid the US Census data then.
/r/MensRights15/07/15 06:18 AM
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It's funny how a lot of people say there's no pay gap as long as you take a man and a woman with the same job and hours, but when you look at the population as a whole, there's the gap. It's like saying the US and India have the same salaries as long as you take 1 American and 1 Indian with the same salary. Well OBVIOUSLY there won't be a gap when you do that. But take everyone in the US vs Indian salaries and you get a much different picture, a gap.
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