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Looking up reciprocity (from a social philosophy topic on Wikipedia -https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reciprocity_(social_and_political_philosophy))) The social norm of reciprocity is the expectation that people will respond to each other in similar ways—responding to gifts and kindnesses from others with similar benevolence of their own, and responding to harmful, hurtful acts from others with either indifference or some form of retaliation.... and (social psychology topic on Wikipedia https://en.…
/r/MarriedRedPill27/09/18 02:13 PM
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Looking up reciprocity (from a social philosophy topic on Wikipedia -https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reciprocity_(social_and_political_philosophy))) The social norm of reciprocity is the expectation that people will respond to each other in similar ways—responding to gifts and kindnesses from others with similar benevolence of their own, and responding to harmful, hurtful acts from others with either indifference or some form of retaliation.... and (social psychology topic on Wikipedia https://en.…
/r/MarriedRedPill27/09/18 02:13 PM
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Trying to find a definition of reciprocation vs utility in terms of engagement but not found anything. Surely if only investing value and time in something that provides a return to oneself would seem like a core RP tenant? So many bad female dominated relationships would seem the opposite the man continually providing value and not getting his needs met in return.
/r/MarriedRedPill24/09/18 07:50 PM
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I still don’t get your original point dude. I obviously have some level of EQ and people skills if I can get deep enough rapport with people to talk with them on this level? I can read emotion and empathise just don’t feel the need or desire to emotionally invest and can often see what the emotion truly represents.
/r/MarriedRedPill24/09/18 07:45 PM
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"Want" would be preferable to "Need" and possibly even attractive to a women. It's the fact that in a lot of BP cases it is a "Need" is exactly why the type of love the man feels is going to have the opposite effect of what he thinks.
/r/MarriedRedPill24/09/18 04:33 PM
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Yeah I really did, even though I was into this stuff well before TRP and sidebars existed. Back in the early 2000's on mASF in both the pickup and relationship game, stuff I learned and used to both pickup and manage my current LTR back then (14 years and counting). When I found TRP / MRP earlier this year as between the former and latter (I had been focusing on my professional career) and went through all the newer stuff it was great to see a lot of the earlier work on inner game and MLTR (what…
/r/MarriedRedPill24/09/18 04:29 PM
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The context of my post was from my own knowledge of those relationships the word need was as good if not better fit than love. My other suggestion was for people when they were thinking / feeling or wanting to verbalise their love towards their wife / partner to examine it to see if it was based out of need or not.
/r/MarriedRedPill24/09/18 04:11 PM
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I suppose I walked into some of that. I don't have shit social skills. I can be extroverted and get rapport with a variety of people fairly easily. It is just like any other skill that can and has been learned and internalised, I'm just more naturally introverted. My engagement with people in the workplace (and life in general) is entirely based on reciprocity that is if they can provide value to me I have interest and will provide value back, what I won't do is invest my time and value into peo…
/r/MarriedRedPill24/09/18 03:59 PM
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No he showed me it on his phone I wasn't spying...
/r/MarriedRedPill24/09/18 03:31 PM
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Thanks. Yeah my office isn't your typical professional environment, it's heavily sales orientated so when these people are pre-occupied they don't tend to perform well. I often joke it's like going through the looking glass when you walk through the door.
/r/MarriedRedPill24/09/18 01:45 PM
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I am okay with regards to the familiarity as I have autistic / sociopathic tendencies which tend to make me very self centred, so I tend to only make decisions that serve the business. I usually struggle with the shit social intelligence as my baseline is to have very little interest in people unless they can directly provide me benefit at the present point in time. (When correctly utilised this works great in LTR) Therefore developing fairly deep rapport with these people serves multiple purpos…
/r/MarriedRedPill24/09/18 01:38 PM
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Thanks, yeah I have read the side bar and said book, just thought it was an interesting reflection exercise to replace love and need in a statement / feeling and re-evaluate. I've read quite a few threads on here over the past few weeks, with guys both new and old mentioning the love for their spouses in their posts and sometimes IMO it holds their frames back. I've also over the past 12 weeks or so been reflecting on love in the context of my own relationship and was interested in a wider persp…
/r/MarriedRedPill24/09/18 01:29 PM
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Don't see many questions in the post that would make it more applicable to ASKMRP. I'm not asking for advice I'm merely reporting an observation, my thoughts and concluding by asking people to reflect and discuss if they wish, seems more MRP to me.
/r/MarriedRedPill24/09/18 12:42 PM
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Probably not more than any other office in the World, or this part of it. Infidelity, on some level, is just a lot more commonplace than portrayed in mainstream media (what topic are we on?). When you are talking about key people who my business relies on then yes I like to know about their personal lives as it has the potential to effect my financial well being, some people cannot function correctly at work when stuff going on at home. It is always interesting seeing real life examples of relat…
/r/MarriedRedPill24/09/18 12:22 PM
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I'm not trying to redefine the meanings of words but surely when you say you "love steak", you really mean you really like it? It's not really the same definition or context you would use for your wife? Maybe, maybe not but my point is that there are men on here that by their definition and feelings of love constrain themselves to a single women for what could be the rest of their lives. I am not here to argue against that, nor judge but to define, discuss and reflect on what that type of love i…
/r/MarriedRedPill24/09/18 11:24 AM
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... I had pretty much all the power in the relationship. The problem is that she was anxious as fuck. Constantly comfort-seeking. She never shit-tested. She never got angry at me. She only got sad, upset, hurt, insecure and more neurotic. That is obviously not a fun person to live with. The power dynamic / balance in any relationship and especially a LTR is in a constant state of flux. People need to realise that attraction and comfort are inversely proportional to each other. A lot of people wa…
/r/askMRP17/09/18 08:01 AM
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Is it wife or girlfriend dude? In post and title it’s wife and then in this reply it’s girlfriend? If your only after ONS why are you telegraphing your in exclusive relationship if it ain’t working for you?
/r/askMRP14/09/18 05:42 PM
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If this is an accurate reflection of the status of the relationship / marriage (also doesn't say how long?), then gentlemen it is a good illustration of something I sometimes see on MRP / ASKMRP. Some guys seem to think when they go from dead bedroom to sex a few times a week then there still isn't enough attraction... If theres no anal there still isn't enough attraction... To the guys who are coming from a beta starvation frame thinking they genuinely seek sex 2/3 times a day and full submissi…
/r/askMRP14/09/18 09:52 AM
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(Solid wall of text and rambling coming up!) I think as mentioned earlier that a lot of times a man feels the need to provide comfort it can be to relieve himself from his own anxiety in the situation, a transference in a way. I also think that knowing RP whilst we know lack of comfort / rapport = attraction in women it isn’t the same for men so whilst it’s giving them feelz it gives us anxiety. An example of this is to a man take the same HB but on one situation is being cold or behaving advers…
/r/askMRP13/09/18 01:26 PM
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From your post title you mention she stated that “You treat me like a whore…” but yet provide no context to this shit test / statement nor how you handled it? Also I sense from a reply further down the real issue for your post was that that she has stopped being as responsive to sexual approaches; Part of my issue is that the target is moving. Over the summer she was more interested in all things sexual. Now she is getting back to work and is work focused, and since then all interest in sex has …
/r/askMRP11/09/18 01:06 PM
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It was sexually strategy not a question for askMRP. The whole point of passive dread is to get your women to think about the possibility of competition and losing you, so she ups her game. If a women suddenly starts shaving and looking after herself down (or buying fancier lingerie etc...) then a man's hamster starts going, saying why is she doing this is she having an affair? Passive dread i.e. lifting, style is dual purpose to it makes the man better in himself but the other-side is it makes h…
/r/MarriedRedPill21/08/18 03:36 PM
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Then comes the little issue of we humans being social primates not canines . Both our brains and behaviors are more complicated than your family dog. Applying a hypothesis about wolf behavior to justify human behavior is a bit of a stretch. I agree when we are looking at alpha behaviour patterns in nature it would make a lot more sense to look at primates (given that the Chimpanzee is often considered our closest living relative genetically) rather than canines. A quick look on Wikipedia (https:…
/r/MarriedRedPill21/08/18 08:22 AM
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Didn't think I through in too much sass or ego, bro. I thought I was just stating the obvious really. If I add a comment about men being (generally) stronger than women do you want me to cite scientific references to experiments measuring testosterone levels or muscle mass? Would that be owning my own shit? Regardless, our exchange allowed me to flesh out my point and provide more substance to my comment, so all good bro!
/r/MarriedRedPill17/08/18 03:52 PM
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Without spending ages trying to find science to backup the obvious, a quick search led to here; https://scholars.unh.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1469&context=risk (Gender Differences in Risk Perception: Broadening the Contexts - September 2001- Jan L. Hitchcock) (Intro Excerpt) "Gender differences in risk perception have been described in varied studies, with women more often reporting higher levels of risk as a concern than do men. Women's greater sensitivity to and lower tolerance of risk …
/r/MarriedRedPill17/08/18 11:42 AM
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I was thinking of posting in MRP about hair grooming yesterday and just seen this. As long as you aren't doing it at the request from your women then suddenly grooming or shaving body hair (and yes down there too) and keeping it up can be an excellent passive dread technique. Obviously STFU and don't discuss with your women, just start doing. This can get the hamster to start thinking why is he suddenly doing it after all these years, is he being intimate with someone else? You obviously need to…
/r/askMRP16/08/18 01:25 PM
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Okay, I don't know how you could possibly deduce that they aren't biologically hardwired to perceive men as more threatening than they really are? Imagine any point in history going back to caveman times, through the middle ages to present day, a man and a women who don't know each other are in isolation with no one else around. Would you say that the women's physiology wouldn't change i.e. increased anxiety and heart rate and other signs of stress. Especially knowing that the man usually from a…
/r/MarriedRedPill16/08/18 12:27 PM
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TL;DR - Your woman experiences your anger as a threat... She may do, but she also views it as loss of control and if you do it as a reaction to something she did, she has drawn you into her frame and you are investing energy into her. In essence you are being reactive to her and whoever is being reactive in a relationship dynamic is the one in a weaker position. It's the same as parenting, getting angry with children, especially losing control isn't a very effective strategy nor is it with her. …
/r/MarriedRedPill15/08/18 04:05 PM
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This is a great post. I think a lot of people who find there way to TRP or MRP are coming from a starvation perspective from massive loss of frame. The ones that aren't also may have mis-calibrated. I would put myself in this bracket as I've always lead and mostly kept frame. My SO will never initiate and part of my own neediness (which I have never externalized to her) views this as her not being attracted to me. On reflection she never did even when we first got together and were at it like ra…
/r/MarriedRedPill08/08/18 02:29 PM
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This reply is spot on. It wasn't the bitch word she took the comment as judgemental as mentioned it was probably the non-verbals (vocal tonality and body language) which were wrong and hence it didn't come off as a joke (maybe you are hamstering that you meant it as a joke). The bitch on the end of statement probably saved you (at least at that point) as it diverted a bit of her attention from the non verbal judgement. You then qualified to her when she tested you about said judgemental comment,…
/r/TheRedPill06/08/18 11:25 AM
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It's pretty obvious to me from the full IM exchange that she is already fucking someone else or already knows someone that she can very quickly. Women's need from validation and security means that they very rarely sacrifice even a beta relationship (depending on age of women and amount of time they have invested in it) without first consummating another, depending on the SMV of the women in question why would they? The way society is so female centric and hypergamy can be practiced so easily by…
/r/MarriedRedPill06/08/18 05:53 AM
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Also just to add if you do something sexually that pisses her off and you keep frame and don't fail the shit tests and apologising for your desire it can be a very good thing. If an alpha grabbed her hair and she got pissy would he give a shit? If she starts giving you shit just laugh, cocky and funny or withdraw (not passive aggressively - I would just keep fucking her, have my orgasm and then roll over and go to sleep).
/r/MarriedRedPill01/08/18 10:39 AM
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The main thing of swallowing TRP and having frame control is to genuinely not give a fuck. I am by no means an expert but I will give you a illustration recently from my LTR if it helps (also some background so you can calibrate). Early days (14 years ago when we met) lots of sex usually with alcohol involved but blow jobs were never that plentiful did happen occasionally but prob less than 20 and none for years. TBH I ain't that bothered as I find it hard to come from them anyway and she's got …
/r/MarriedRedPill01/08/18 10:36 AM
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You've made some great progress. The thing that worries me with your frame still however is that you state that you "get mediocre sex served to me about once a week" and "I still get starfish sex mostly". This is all wrong for me (please bear in mind I am basing this on what you have posted in this one post). Firstly and again this is something of a myth IMO that people get from TRP/MRP. You can get all your shit sorted and raise your SMV, build the correct frame but it is still your job to init…
/r/MarriedRedPill31/07/18 08:57 AM
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Whether you comply with her request for ice when you are next to the ice-maker all depends on the non-verbals and frame that she displays when requesting it. If it is framed as a command i.e. "Get me some ice" then even if I was right next to it she would be walking for it herself. IMO this is still a compliance test and as per my post is the way you start them before escalating to larger and more unreasonable tasks. If she frames that request as a request "Could you please get me some ice?" in …
/r/MarriedRedPill31/07/18 08:17 AM
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In the UK (where we live) it's a massive benefit from the legal and financial perspective not to be married, children are treated as if married with regards to access / custody. TBH with regards to financial perspective this is kind of linked though as no matter how bad a relationship got I wouldn't want my children living in squalor. Financially there is the issue of child support until they are 18 years old (basic of 15% net income for 1st child and additional 5% for each additional to 2 addit…
/r/MarriedRedPill31/07/18 07:29 AM
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